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Welcome to Closer to Christ through General Conference,

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent General

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Conference talks. This is Abbey and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Today we're talking about the love

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of God, and this is by Elder Benjamin M. Z. Tai

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of the Seventy. This is, we just finished our

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hundredth episode, and we're so happy that you

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have been with us for this ride. Abby, thanks

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for being here. It's good to be here. Thanks

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for having me. Elder Tai talked about an analogy.

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He said that we all have the experience of looking

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up in the night sky and seeing a myriad of stars.

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So they're fixed. They're predictable. Those

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same stars seen from a quiet camping spot in

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the woods are far different from what you would

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see if you were looking at that same sky in the

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city or at night from a balcony on a high rise.

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Did they disappear? Absolutely not. Are they

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harder to see? Ty uses this analogy to draw on

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the truth that God loves us always, despite the

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terrestrial temptations that cloud our spiritual

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vision. I love that he used a scripture so quick

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into this introduction. He said, faith is a substance

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of things hoped for, the evidence of things not

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seen. Isn't it amazing to think, you know, two

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people looking at the same stars in those two

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different locations at the same time would in

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theory know that those stars are there just because

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they can't see them? kind of led into knowing

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exactly what Elder Tai was going to be talking

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about. And he helps us with that star analogy

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to draw a clear visual of the stars in the sky

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and how they are. We have at times in our lives

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when we fill that block and we don't see evidences

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of God loves, but maybe in the past we have seen

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it. And so we can recall, well, I know that they're

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there just because I'm not seeing them right

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in this moment. But he used that. phrasing terrestrial

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clouds or, you know, some of us know light pollution,

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get in the way of us filling God's love and light

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in our own lives, despite the fact that it is

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always there. Yes, I love that. Both of those.

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Early in the Book of Mormon and the Tree of Life

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vision, we learned that the tree represents the

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love of God, and then that the fruit of that

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tree provided all that was necessary to make

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someone happy. When Lehi tasted the fruit of

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that tree, he was filled with joy, and his greatest

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desire at that point was that his family should

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have this same fruit and the same joy. Because

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Christ embodies the love of God, He is the fruit

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that we should desire to bring into our lives

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more fully. And then also, just like Lehi, invite

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our family to come to Jesus Christ as well. Most

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of us haven't had the experience where we see

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the Father and Son with our physical eyes, but

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we're asked to exercise faith in God and His

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Son, Jesus Christ. Faith precedes miracles, and

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it's in the action of acting on this faith that

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we receive clear assurance of their reality and

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their concern for us. Absolutely. Okay, Abby,

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let's list some evidences of how Jesus Christ

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embodies the love of God. His great atoning sacrifice,

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taking upon Himself our sins and was bruised

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for our iniquities. He has personally borne our

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griefs, carried our sorrows, taken upon Himself

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our pains and sicknesses. And then He sends the

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Holy Ghost to comfort us. And the fruits of the

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Spirit include joy, peace, and faith, which fill

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us with hope and love. These gifts are designed

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for every one of us, every child of God to have

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access to. And, you know, there's some that search

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for it. others that want it but turn away from

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it because they have that idea that somehow they

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aren't deserving of it, while others are desperately

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trying their hardest to hang on to it. I mean,

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and I think different phases of life we might

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find ourselves in one of those multiple scenarios.

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For sure. It's not enough to taste the fruit

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and be satisfied with just one taste of it. The

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scriptures and the Lord's prophet teach us that

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we consistently can experience god's love and

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the longer we go without feeling that love the

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easier it is for the terrestrial clouds to block

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our view from seeing and feeling that love The

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key to feeling love daily is to turn daily to

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the Savior. I think that's the part of the, you

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know, the consistency is that we just need to

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keep doing it. Daily repentance, daily prayer,

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daily scripture study, forgiving others as we

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have been forgiven, and to frankly forgive like

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Joseph Smith did. I love it too. To strive to

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keep the commandments and then also to selflessly

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serve others are the keys. to daily feel of God's

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love for ourselves. I like the emphasis on the

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word strive because I think that's a problem

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where people don't feel the worthiness to even

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have God's love is because they have this erroneous

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idea that you have to be perfect in order to

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earn that. He just wants to see us striving.

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to try to keep His commandments. And as we do

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that, we strive. I think it does get a little

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bit better each time. But I think part of that

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is because we allow His love to cover the difference

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that we can't make on our own. Yes, we ask for

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the atonement in our lives, right? It makes a

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lot of sense that there are things that we do

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daily to help us feel God's love. And it's just

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as easy to not do the little things daily. And

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that causes a block. or blockage of feeling that

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love. I would say it's not disappearing, but

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it's just harder to see and harder to feel. So

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things like being prideful, contentious, and

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rebellion are three such attributes. For sure.

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You know, what if those things are prevalent

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in our lives? Could we possibly do as the prophet

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has invited us and remove with the Savior's help

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the old debris in our lives? As the talk says,

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lay aside bitterness. He's encouraged us to bolster

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our spiritual foundation through centering our

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lives on the Savior and the ordinances and covenants

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of His temple. The word centering stands out

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to me here, meaning if he is our focal point,

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he is our intended destination, it's harder to

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let things in the periphery block our direct

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communication with him, our direct line to him,

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where we're trying to get to. I love it, too,

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because it reminds us, you know, as far as he's

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talking about the block, right, whether it's

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the clouds or whether it's the light. I love

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that he's reminding us that it's always there,

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meaning God's love, Christ's atonement is always

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there, regardless of whether we're feeling it.

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You know what I mean? It's just a good reminder

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that I really like the analogy that he used there.

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Especially if you struggle with a mental illness

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or whatever. Yes, or a season of it, right? That's

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what I was going to say. It's a great thing to

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get a testimony of when things happen to be going,

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like the medications are working. well and life

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experiences aren't making that a very difficult

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thing to fill God's love. You cannot necessarily

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bottle it up. You're going to need that continuous,

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like we were saying, continuously partaking of

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that fruit. But I do think it's a truth that

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it once gained a testimony of when you hit a

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period of sadness or darkness that you can tell

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yourself. though I can't feel it now, it is on

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the horizon because I know that it hasn't left

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me. I'm just having a hard time feeling it. And

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it will come back again. Like I will feel it

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again because I felt it before and I know it's

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always there. And what that is, is expanding

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our hope because of the faith that we have, because

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we have. felt it before. Yes, I love that, Abby.

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Also, temple attendance. I feel like that maybe

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could have made the list that we made above.

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The prophet promised that as we keep our temple

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covenants, we gain greater access to the Lord's

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strengthening power. We experience the pure love

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of Jesus Christ and our Heavenly Father in great

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abundance. I'd love to encourage all of our listeners

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to make your next date with the Lord in the temple,

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and then use that time there to ask to feel God's

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love for you. Whether in doubt or not, make it

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to one of His temples, sit in the outside space

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or in any room of the temple, and free yourself

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of every other distraction and just open communication

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with the Lord. And then let Him have the opportunity

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to let you know just what He thinks of you. That

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kind of goes back to that centering our lives

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on the Savior. What a great way to do that. When

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I was like, picturing out and about centering

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myself and and focusing on him but your suggestion

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of attending the temple clearing our mind space

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and being in that zone in that moment what what

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a neat opportunity yeah and also sister runia's

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it's kind of like that was one of her invitations

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to us and it's doing that in the temple so i

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like combining both of those um does executing

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this list of ideas remove burdens from our life

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It hasn't happened for me. But as Elder Tice

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suggested, when we experience the love of God,

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we can bear up our burdens with ease and submit

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patiently and cheerfully to His will. We have

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confidence that God will remember His covenants

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with us, visit us in our afflictions, and deliver

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us from bondage. What a neat reminder when those

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hard times come, which they undoubtedly will

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for each of us, that we know. you know, that

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season will pass and that we're not doing it

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alone. When we experience trials and know that

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a loving God is with us and looking out for us,

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maybe sending angelic or earthly angels, our

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trials just don't feel the same. And when we

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erroneously assume our trials are a result of

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God punishing us, we've missed the message. They

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happen because that's what this earthly experience

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is going to have. It's got to have its opposites.

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And it is the opportunity to come to know the

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Father and the Son better or not. But that's

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the intended goal. Yeah. Not because He wants

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to punish us. And that's the thing, too, is there

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will always be affliction. There will always

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be trials. And there will always be God's hand

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and tender mercies intermixed and mingled. I've

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heard people say before, man, I can't wait till

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X and X is over. And I'm thinking, I'm not sure

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if that's going to be over ever. I mean, when

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this one's done, guess what? There's going to

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be something else that's going to fill its space.

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That's just... part of eternal progression. There's

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always that, what is it, the effectual struggle

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that we talk about, that that's just how we grow.

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We don't grow in our comfort zone. Okay. So just

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like the story of Lehi mentioned above, when

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we've tasted of God's love, we have a great desire

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for our family to also experience that. Our family

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can use their agency to partake of the fruit

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or not, but inviting in a loving way and caring

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way is what is most acceptable when a loved one

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rejects the message or inclination may turn to

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force or anger but those send the fruits of the

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spirit that they aren't the way that it's just

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not the way that that god would would do this

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pulling from a suggestion above our best option

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in this situation is to find more ways to serve

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the ones that we love it may or may not change

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them but it will certainly change us And when

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we're better at experiencing God's love, we have

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a better chance of then duplicating that and

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emanating that love. And it feels like a good

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starting point for these loved ones, despite

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not feeling worthy or maybe willing to work to

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feel God's love. Maybe you, the person right

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in front of you, over time will be the key to

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helping this person remove some of those terrestrial

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clouds and then feeling God's love for themselves.

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We can't choose what they do with the things

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that we say, but if they're done in love, we

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definitely keep that communication open with

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God and we can fill the love for them that they're

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not able or willing to fill for themselves. And

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in that way, we know that God loves us too. Yes.

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And inviting and coming from a place of love

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is number one. Right from the talk, it says,

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to help others fill God's love, we need to cultivate

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in ourselves Christlike attributes. These include

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humility, charity, compassion, and patience.

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and help turn others towards the Savior through

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following the two great commandments of loving

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God and loving our fellow men. Elder Tai used

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a personal experience that highlighted this.

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He was talking about his teenage son who was

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struggling with self -esteem. And so the inspiration

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came to have he and his son join together in

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serving a woman who was experiencing some health

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challenges in their work. I love this story.

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At first, he was unsure that this would be that

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helpful. And noticed in his son there, he soon

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found a lot of joy bringing the sacrament and

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helping with her needs, you know, week to week.

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One week, Elder Tai was out of town. And so the

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son was responsible for this on his own. And

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he reported back to his dad that he kind of did

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some internet search. He fixed that video player

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and brightened his day, brightened her day. And

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for a fact, this opportunity to serve helped

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made him feel useful, trusted. It made him feel

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loved by God when he was able to share the love

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of God with, you know, another one of God's children.

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And good for him, too, for going when his dad

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wasn't there. You know what I mean? Maybe one

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of the most impactful. For sure. Yeah, because

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he got that inspiration on his own. And because

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he'd been kind of tutored and brought up by having

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experiences with his dad, then he was able to

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continue and carry on in that service on his

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own. Yes, I love that. If you would like to feel

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the love of God more abundantly in your life,

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may I invite you to consider the following. First.

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Pause frequently to remember that you are a child

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of God and think of the things that you're grateful

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for. Gratitude always invites revelation. Second,

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pray daily, asking Heavenly Father to help you

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know who around you needs to feel His love. And

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then third, ask sincerely what you can do to

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help that individual to feel the love of God.

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Fourth, act promptly on the inspiration that

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you receive. I was working on... studying this

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talk, preparing for it, and went to bed last

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night, woke up in the early hours of the morning

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thinking of this handout that Amy and I received

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a couple weeks ago in a teacher training. We

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met on the stage after sacrament meeting, and

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we didn't have a lot of time with the other primary

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teachers, but our Sunday school president introduced

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us to this diorama, diagram, whatever, and it's

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titled Principles of Christlike Teaching. Teaching

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in the Savior's way. Yeah, in the manual teaching

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in the Savior's way. So what it is, is like a

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Venn diagram, and it's got the ideas. The three

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things you need to have a successful lesson is

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to focus on Jesus Christ, teach the doctrine,

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and invite diligent learning. If any one of those

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things doesn't exist, we don't reach that center.

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That central point or the idea of when all three

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of those things converge, that we help with conversion

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to Jesus Christ, our end goal. But encompassing

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those three things requires us to love those

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we teach and to teach by the Spirit. So it just

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came to mind for me, obviously in reference to

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being a primary teacher, how my love for them

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affects. The way I prepare, the way I think about

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them, the way that I pray for them. And I was

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thinking, you know, what do I remember from primary?

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Maybe nothing specific, but I remember teachers

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that loved me. For sure. Public school memories.

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I don't necessarily remember any lessons that

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were to be had there, but definitely remember

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those teachers that kind of... exhibited love

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in whatever way that was. They noticed you having

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a bad day or play with you at recess or, you

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know, like I can't pinpoint exact things that

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they did, but I mean, there was a, there was

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a year of my life that I confused my teacher's

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name with my mom's and my mom's with my grandma's.

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I mean, like more people to love you. And I think

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that was a piece of it. I homeschool with my

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sisters in multiple states and usually get to

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do like the fifth grade English language arts.

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And not a lesson ends without me saying how much

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I love, you know, my kid and my nephews that

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I'm teaching. And they tell me that they love

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me back. And I just think like, yeah, we're learning

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about prepositional phrases and conjugating verbs.

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I don't know. And love is still important. These

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things happen, but I'm like, they probably won't

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remember that. And it probably won't be that

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useful in their life. But if at the end of the

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day that they know how much I love them. we've

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definitely succeeded in what I'm hoping for,

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further education. Any thoughts? You were in

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that same training. Any thoughts come to your

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mind from that and how it ties to, you know,

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wanting others to feel that love of God? Just

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such a good, number one, I love how simple that

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diagram is. And it was easier this week when

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I taught to just keep that in mind and to remember

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to just include. each of the three of those,

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you know? And if we're not inviting those that

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we're teaching to act, then it doesn't, you know,

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we need to act on what we know. And that's when

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the Spirit works in us. That's when Heavenly

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Father can reach us and we can put everything

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that we've learned into practice. I feel like

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before that, there's not really a place for it

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to land. Right. And we're falling short of the...

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expectations that our father has for us because

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he's basically like, you know, you could live

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without church, but since you're going anyway,

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let's help him make the mark. Point people to

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my son, help them to become more like me. And

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when you're kind of thinking of all of those

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things combined in church classes, that's great.

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As you know, we're both raising children right

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now. We may be reaching the years of, you know,

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grandparents, like whatever phase you're on in

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your life, maybe you're the auntie, whatever.

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That as you're thinking, whatever you have to

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say and teach, if it's done with love, that might

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be the best start for these people around us

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to want to partake of that tree and come to the

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tree and partake of that fruit. For sure. We

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listen to people we love, right? We trust, we

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love, we do things for them. Any final thoughts

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from you? Did you say what you wanted to say?

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I think that was it. Okay. Let me close with

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this testimony. It says, Dear friends, as one

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who has experienced God's love, I joyfully witness

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that the Savior Jesus Christ is the love of God.

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His love for us is perfect, personal, and perpetual.

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As we faithfully follow Him, may we be filled

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with His love and may we be a lighthouse that

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guides others to His love. And He says that in

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the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. This will

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be our last broadcast before conference. We thought

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we would just wrap up with just a few pointers

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for preparing for conference? Yeah, just some

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ideas. So something I've loved is it's actually

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my sister. She did a coloring book. It's called

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Light. It's a coloring journal and it's an inspirational

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coloring book to experience God's word. And definitely

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my daughter and I have done this during conference

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and there are places to like write inspirations

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or what was something that was a key point or,

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you know, what songs you love. They're just a

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bunch of different things. And it's just, it's

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a fun thing for teens and for adults. I'm going

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to link that to the show notes. And then also

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the markers, we're going to link those as well

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because they're just. really great markers are

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kind of like watercolor ones and they're pretty

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inexpensive and you could definitely have them

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here in time because it's an Amazon link. So

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you'll have them for conference. I've doodled

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in this coloring book. It's not like so specific

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to just a particular conference. No, it's not.

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Cause it can also be like, if you're going to

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church, like if some, if another religion, we're

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going to church or something like that, it's

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just you writing down your thoughts during worship.

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you know, of Jesus Christ. So that's what it

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is. You never know when somebody's going to like

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come upon this and be like, oh man, I'm too late

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for that. But this is one, like I've come to

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your house and you've had the coloring out and

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I've sat down and colored for my friend, Amy.

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And it's just, it's just fun because it's sort

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of just a meditative way. And then I can just

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see adding different inspiration and thoughts

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into those side notes. Anything else you have?

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That is all. I would say what I love is those

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initial impressions that come as I'm like first

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off listening to conference. They're the things

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that I need in that moment. As I studied the

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general conference over the next six months,

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I'm like, where was I when that was said? It

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definitely escaped my ears or seeing the connection,

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seeing the pattern, seeing this last session.

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It is so stacked with being children of God.

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feeling that love of God, that being the most

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important thing we do every day to circle back

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to that, leading into the prophet's final message

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at the conference session. So what I would say

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is there's so much power, whatever you can grab

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on this first conference weekend. So hold that

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dear and special. Ask the question. Come to conference

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with the question. Prepare for that question

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to be answered. And then enjoy opportunities

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on walks or in your Relief Society activities,

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the Elder's Quorum, if you're able to go there.

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Maybe sacrament talks are kind of centered around

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the last chunk of conference. Pair what inspiration

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they got with it with the things that you've

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heard. Podcasts are always helpful. I laugh,

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like sometimes I listen back to these podcasts

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that we do and I'm like, I didn't even think

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of that when we were preparing for it, when we

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were recording, like the emotions of recording,

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like worrying about messing up. You're kind of

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like, meh, whatever. And then I listen back like

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on a calm Sunday morning and I'm like, oh, and

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it makes me think of something completely different.

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That is power in. In the words themselves. I'm

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always like, go back to the words. Like, podcasts

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are great. It'll spark some thoughts. But at

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different seasons of your life, these talks could

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mean a lot more than they do right in this moment.

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They're always there for us to enjoy and get

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the revelation that we need for the question

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that's pertinent to us in that moment. Absolutely.

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All right. We will catch you on season four.

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We'll see you next time.
