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Welcome to Closer to Christ, the General Conference,

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent General

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Conference talks. This is Abby and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. We're diving into Elder Garrett

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W. Gong's beautiful conference message, Eternity's

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Great Gifts, Jesus Christ's Atonement. Resurrection,

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restoration. Elder Gong reminds us that through

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Jesus Christ, Easter brings us three gifts that

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are enduringly real and joyful, happy and forever.

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Those are peace, becoming and belonging. I feel

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like he did such a great job of this talk and

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I've already listened to it like multiple times.

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Such a good one. I think it's one I'm going to

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want to go back to again and again for Easter

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because like the things that he brought to my

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heart when I read it, I was like. He did a great

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job summarizing a lot of important things. His

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opening, he loves to tell little jokes. I know

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he does. So he does another joke here. And he

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says, as a youth, when asked to memorize scripture

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passages, he chose one that was the shortest.

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It was John 11, 35, which is Jesus slept. And

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then right after, we all know that he's just

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being funny. But immediately after, he testifies

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that with more years of time, more years of study,

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that that passage has come to mean so much more

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to him. It's taught a profound truth. He said,

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for me now that Jesus weeps in sorrow and joy

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testifies of the miraculous reality. This divine

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son of God came into physical mortality and learned

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according to the flesh how always to be with

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and bless us. So good. Then he also goes on and

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he shares several moments where Jesus wept. He

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talks about at Lazarus's tomb. We sort of touched

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on that last week. Over Jerusalem, he wept while

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blessing little children in the Book of Mormon

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lands. And his tears reveal something powerful.

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The divine Son of God didn't just teach us how

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to live. He chose to... to feel what we feel,

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to understand joy and sorrow perfectly. It's

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true, he didn't have to do that, right? He was

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moments away from raising Lazarus from the grave,

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and he still took the time to mourn with his

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friends over their loss. They were sorrowing

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for the loss of the memories and their experiences

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that would have been, but never would. He let

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them mourn. He gave them the experience of what

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it feels like to have loss. And then they gained

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the experience of saying, why didn't you get

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here sooner? Things would have been so much different

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if you'd been here. And in the next moment, he

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showed us all that these experiences are for

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our growth. Sorrow is just as important as joy

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when considering the things we came to earth

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to learn. What do these tears teach us about

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his love and understanding of our personal joys

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and sorrows? When tears flow, we sometimes apologize.

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Embarrassed is what he says in the talk. But

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knowing that Jesus Christ understands life's

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pains and joys can give us strength beyond our

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own as we navigate bitter and sweet. He didn't

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immediately take the pain of their brother's

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death from them. He let them feel that pain,

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and he felt that pain. And then he raised Lazarus

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from the dead. Can you just feel the joy that

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these sisters would have had and others? that

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we're around as they witnessed the power of God

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to raise someone from the dead. Amazing, right?

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Yeah. And then it's Lazarus in this moment, but

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it signals to the world that this is a possibility,

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that the death isn't the end and that he does

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have the power to, the power is there that we

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can be raised again. So when we lose our own

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loved ones, like in 2025, when we lose friends,

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when we lose loved ones, we have that same promise

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because we've seen him do it before. So let the

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tears flow and know that they will be replaced

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with tears of joy because Jesus Christ did fulfill

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his covenant and he will have all power over

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the grave because of him. Maybe you could share

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with us a time when you felt Christ's presence

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most deeply in your own grief or happiness. Yeah,

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so mine was in my grief and despair and it was

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on my mission. It was the first time that in

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my adult life that I remember feeling Jesus like.

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Jesus Christ personally with me. Before I had

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felt the Spirit, before I'd had, you know, different

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circumstances and experiences, but I was a missionary

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and I had a major surgery on my mission. So I

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was in a different country. They spoke a different

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language. I'd only been there for like two months,

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so I didn't really know even what they were saying.

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I had to kind of translate it in my mind. It

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was a very sad time. And I woke up and I remember

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thinking, I felt like I got hit by a tractor,

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like run over by one because it was abdominal

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surgery and all this stuff. And I remember thinking,

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if I can make it through tonight, then I'm going

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to live because I really thought I was going

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to die. And I was also alone. Like it was the

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first time I'd ever been absolutely alone. No

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companion, no nobody, someone moaning in the

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bed next to me with a curtain or whatever. And

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I just like prayed all night long. I couldn't

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sleep at all. And I remember like through the

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wee, through the wee like hours of the morning

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that i just felt very um comforted and like jesus

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christ himself was keenly aware of me and that

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like humbled me to tears and i after i kind of

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caught hold of that thought, you could say. I

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was able to make it. I remember looking out the

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window and the sun came up and I was like, all

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right, I'm going to make it. But I just, I really

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do feel like it was the first time in my life

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that I was utterly alone on earth. So it made

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it very possible for me to reach out to Jesus

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Christ and know that it was Him that pulled me

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through. Excellent. Maybe an action item to consider

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from that list that you read of different times

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that we have recorded in scripture of where Jesus

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did weep. As we're studying the scriptures, we

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can reflect on what this reveals about his love

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for us, how he can understand our weeping in

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the happy moments, in the sad moments. And I

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don't know. I just think it shows another layer,

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a depth to the love that he has for us. I like

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that, Abby. Elder Gong also teaches that Easter

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isn't just about the past. It's about what can

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yet be. Christ's atonement and resurrection doesn't

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just return what we've lost. They restore us

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and help us become something greater. The restoration

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of the gospel brought priesthood keys and covenants

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that can heal families, mend regrets, and unite

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generations across time. His life experiences

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have taken him across the world, and he's been

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part of people's stories. He's met. He's met

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people in every land and place, let's say. And

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the section of the talk that he goes into next

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is kind of a recap of some of those years of

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sorrow and joy that he has been able to hear

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from members, what their experiences have been

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as he's talked to them. And for him in this message

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about how Easter with Jesus Christ helps us mend

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and reconcile and make right our relationships

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on both sides of the veil. He says Jesus can

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heal grief. He can enable forgiveness. He can

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free us and others from things. we or they have

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said or done that otherwise bind us captive.

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I like that mental picture. How can the restoration

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help heal regrets or strained relationships in

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our lives? Did you remember the little examples

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that he gave just time after time of things that

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people were carrying with them so long? And so

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I have a lot of thoughts when you mentioned that

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question. Let me just... Sure. A couple I can

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think of. Sometimes relationships, they're too

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important to let go, meaning that we know that

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they're eternal relationships. And because we

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know that because of the restoration of the gospel

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of Jesus Christ, I think we view those relationships

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with the lens that you're not trying to intentionally

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damage them. You're trying your hardest to preserve

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them. But I've also learned from my Savior's

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example that even those who hurt you the most,

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they're in the greatest need of forgiveness,

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of Father's forgiveness. Like when He's on the

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cross, He says just before His death, one of

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His last requests, Father, forgive them for they

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know not what they do. And does that mean that

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you let offenders tear you down time after time?

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No. But holding on to ill -feeling towards people

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that do try to hurt us, I think prevents us from

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feeling the greater joy that comes. As we heal

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those wounds and we set those offenses aside.

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Agreed. And I don't know. I think you get a bad

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rap for it. When somebody hurts you and you forgive

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them, that it's like you're not standing up for

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yourself, like it's a bad thing. But it doesn't

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necessarily mean that the relationship is totally

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restored. It means that you're forgiving them

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for the things that they're doing. That there

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is no more bitterness in your heart. Right. That

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is all. I guess the way to judge if you're at

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that point is that if you want what's best for

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them. Even if that friendship is severed or whatever,

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that you still want the best for them. You're

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thinking the best things for them. You know,

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maybe they continue to hurt and offend you, but

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it's just another opportunity to be as the Savior

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would. Turn the other cheek and again, hope for

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the best for the way things are going for them.

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We don't have the right to take away their agency,

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so we can't really choose how they're reacting

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in the situation. So sometimes the healing feels

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one -sided in those scenarios. Definitely happens

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at different paces, right? I love this part of

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the talk, Gabby. This is a direct quote. Jesus

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Christ atonement also restores us spiritually.

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He bled from every poor weeping blood, as it

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were, to provide us escape from sin and separation.

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He reunites us whole and holy with each other

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and with God. In all good things, Jesus Christ

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restores abundantly, not only what was, but what

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also can be. What does it mean to you that God

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not only restores what was lost, but also what

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can yet be. I really like how he asked this question.

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I really like how it's both of them. Yeah, I

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agree. Not or. No, that's great. I think it's

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very fitting, like when we were just talking

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about the strained relationships or like trying

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to repair some of these things that have happened

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once we've done all that we can. And you kind

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of just have to turn the rest over to the Savior,

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maybe on the other side of the veil, even with

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all the details when they come to light. And,

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you know, both sides of the scenario can see

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the situation without prejudice. You can kind

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of see to the heart of the matter. maybe where

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things weren't resolved here, they can be in

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the next life. And I'll say when you attempt

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to repair a relationship and it does feel one

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-sided, that it's amazing that you can rely on

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the peace that comes as you heal spiritually

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from something that's kind of a physical problem.

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A physical relationship, it's not healed. You

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can find that spiritual healing and in that way,

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that way it feels like it's healed. Is that making

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any sense? I have to say yes. I have experienced

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very similar things, so I can testify that navigating

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difficult relationships and restoring what was

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where you can and leaving into the possibility

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of what can be in the future, even the eternities,

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brings a peace that surpasses understanding.

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All I can say is that it's a promise the Savior

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has made, and it is one that has blessed me in

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my own life. So a final point of this profound

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message, and I have to say, Abby, I listened

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to this while I was making dinner, and I definitely

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stopped and rewound a few things and was like,

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that was so profound. It really hit me. And this

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is something that I'm going to share. Elder Gong

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shares that... It is the Savior that frees us

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from the world's constant messages that we're

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not enough, not spiritual enough, not successful

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enough, not worthy enough. Through His grace,

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we can escape perfectionism and instead discover

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peace and belonging. And then here's a question

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that, you know, each of us can ask ourselves.

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How can truly accepting Christ's atonement help

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us feel peace rather than constant pressure to

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be perfect? God's plan of mortal... Agency or

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mortality allows us to learn by experience. And

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some of our greatest lessons come from things

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that we would never choose to happen to us, right?

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Jesus descended below and ascended above all

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things. He rejoices in our divine capacities

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for creativity and delight, kindness without

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hope for reward, faith under repentance and forgiveness.

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And he weeps in sorrow at the enormity of human

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suffering, cruelty, unfairness, often brought

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by human choice, as do the heavens and God of

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heaven with them. Elder Gong said this, when

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we understand this about his nature, we learn

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that we don't have to be perfect because he was

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perfect for us. And we're inclined to rely on

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him more when we don't have the strength and

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ability to do something on our own. Like that

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feeling and emotions you felt like in your hospital

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bed by yourself. We tend to turn to him more

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when we reach. like a certain point when he's

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the best person to turn to in our need. Very

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good point. He really only asks us to do what

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we can and he'll make it the rest perfect with

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whatever we're able to offer him. I totally agree.

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So each Easter season, we celebrate as a symbolic

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whole eternity's great gifts through Jesus Christ,

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which are his atonement, his literal resurrection,

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restoration of his latter day church with priesthood

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keys and authority to bless all of God's children.

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So in the spirit of the Easter season, another

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action item that we might consider here would

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be to identify one relationship or regret to

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bring to Christ for healing this week or in advance

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for the next general conference. This also brings

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to mind something that President Nelson said

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years ago, which was to heal personal conflict

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in your life. Sometimes it's as simple as asking

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in prayer to see that person through the Savior's

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eyes. If we saw our offenders as He sees them,

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would it be easier to extend kindness or forgiveness?

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I love this because this was obviously spoken

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in the Easter season, but this message is so

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profound and we're trying to find ways to bring

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Easter more fully into like all aspects of our

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life. Sure. Not just the day of the year, but

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like the season itself to extend that. And then

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this message is great. What if each month we

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picked up another burden that we've been carrying

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around and wanted to give it to him? So it would

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require us to identify the things that's making

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us feel burdened or the relationship that's feeling

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a little bit heavy. And I think the one that

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comes to top of mind is the one you should grab

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off. Maybe there's multiple areas that you could

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heal from, but I love that idea. You take the

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one and you say, like, what can you and I do

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together to heal this? And you may be prompted

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with the words to say to the person or open the

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conversation, or you may be blessed with the

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ability to say you've done everything you can

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in that relationship. Exactly. And it's time

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to leave the rest to Jesus on that one. Yeah.

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He doesn't want us to endlessly suffer. One -sided

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pursuit. Totally. Yeah. It's not the point. I

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think that's a great suggestion. Thank you for

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bringing it up. Anyway, we can make Easter a

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year -long celebration doing this, just letting

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go of things that can't bring us any joy, things

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that can't be restored on this side of the veil,

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and trust that that restoration will come at

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some point. Yeah. A quote from the talk, For

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God so loved the world that he gave his only

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begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him

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should not perish but have everlasting life.

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May we each find in Jesus Christ's atonement,

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resurrection and restoration, peace, becoming

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and belonging, that which is enduringly real

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and joyful, happy and forever. I pray in his

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holy name, Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Thank you

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for joining us. Until next time, may you feel

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his love in both your tears and your triumphs.
