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Welcome to Closer to Christ through General Conference,

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent General

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Conference talks. This is Abbey and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Today's talk is Your Repentance

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Doesn't Burden Jesus Christ, It Brightens His

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Joy. This was done by Sister Tamara Runya, First

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Counselor, Young Women's General Presidency.

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I can't tell you the number of times that I've

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heard her quoted since this talk or the comments

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that were made on Facebook or whatever myriad

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of conversations. With the hands. Yes, she was

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very demonstrative with her hands or whatever,

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but then the message hit a lot of people's hearts.

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For sure. Yeah, it's been a really popular talk

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to reference since that time. So thank you for

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being with us today as we get to jump in and

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discuss this together. Starting out, several

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years ago, Sister Runia sat outside reading a

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book. Its title suggested that we can still make

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it to heaven even though we're not perfect now.

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A woman walking by asked, do you think it's possible?

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She looked up, confused, and then realized she

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was talking about the book. She said, well, I'm

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not that far into it, but I'll let you know how

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it ends. Then she teaches us with these words.

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Oh, how I wish I could travel back in time. I

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tell her, yes, it's possible because heaven isn't

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for people who've been perfect. It's for people

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who have been forgiven, who chose Christ again

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and again. I love this, Abby. I feel like everything

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that she taught us in this talk is something

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that landed well with people's hearts. Like you

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said, we've heard it over the pulpit, just people

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talking about it, whether it's in their testimony

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or in their talk. And you can tell that it hit

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them and it was like the right message at the

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right time so many of us we want to be perfect

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but we just know we haven't achieved that and

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just to hear the way that she phrased it in the

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conversation that comes from this talk let us

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all know like we've got a good chance because

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exactly and she said it over and over So Sister

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Runia used to measure her relationship with the

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Savior by how perfectly she was living. She thought

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an obedient life meant that she would never need

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to repent. And when she made mistakes, which

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was every single day, then she would distance

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herself from God thinking, he must be so disappointed

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in me. And then she says, that's just not true.

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She says, I've learned that if you wait until

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you're clean enough or perfect enough to go to

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the Savior, you've missed the whole point. So

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a question would be, what if we thought about

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commandments and obedience in a different way.

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So she really has us reframe the way we're looking

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at this. She says, I testify that while God cares

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about our mistakes, He cares more about what

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happens after we make a mistake. Are we going

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to turn to Him again and again? Are we going

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to stay in this covenant relationship? I love

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that. I've said that to my kids so many times

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is, you made a mistake. The most important thing

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is what happens next. Are you going to hide and

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just be like, not acknowledging that we're not

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doing it? you know this is a chance for growth

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um when we repent we receive the gift of christ's

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atonement actually receive it she reminds us

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that in our quest to keep the commandments to

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remember that repenting may be the most often

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repeated commandment in the scriptures she said

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our prophet said the savior loves us always but

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especially when we repent as i was listening

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to this talk over today again I remembered there

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have been quite a few over the years. I think

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one was maybe about 2014, but it was get really,

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really, really good at repenting. And then another

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one was repent every day. Was it repent every

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day, every day, every day? So I feel like this

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message, of course, because it is one of the

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main principles of the gospel, we're going to

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hear it often. It's not that it's new information.

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It's just that we need to learn over and over

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and over in a layered approach. And we're not

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the same people we were back in 2014. We're not

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the same people we were back. When I say the

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same people, I mean like we have probably a different

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circle of people, maybe even added, you know,

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because of children, maybe spouses, whatever

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it is, but you're constantly changing and growing

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and our circumstances are different. The relationship

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challenges are different. And so it's just so

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wonderful to listen to it in a different way.

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by another servant of the lord who shines their

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light in a very specific way and i just feel

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like she knocked this out of the park like if

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i were heavenly father or the heavenly host watching

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her do this i'd be like she's doing so great

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and like clapping her on just like every person

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that talked in conference it was a very timely

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message for us and and something you said that

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that last quote you shared the savior loves us

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always but especially when we repent i just feel

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like um yes the love is the love it sometimes

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can feel one -sided because they just have this

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immense amount of love for us we show our love

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back to them by certain actions that we do we

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know that we're going to come here we know that

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we're going to make mistakes and we're going

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to to sin but needing a savior and turning to

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the savior is their love language yes they're

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they're just grateful to see us trust in the

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plan so much that that we find our way back to

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to him very very good through him to him to him

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through him both yeah sister runia invites us

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to reframe what a call to repentance can mean

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she says when we hear the lord calling repent

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ye repent ye what if you imagined him saying

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i love you i love you i love it picture him pleading

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with you to leave behind the behavior causing

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you pain inviting you to step out of darkness

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and turn to his light different way of looking

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at repentance for sure as an invitation to leap

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pain and darkness behind and trade it for his

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light and peace i'm going to sign up for that

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serious isn't that a gentle invitation it's not

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a rebuke it's not a shaming or a call to be perfect.

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Our Savior was willing to suffer the pain of

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his atonement because he loves you. In fact,

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you are the joy that was set before him while

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he suffered, as it says in Hebrews 12 too. We

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are the reason, the vision of us in his mind

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is the reason he was able to accomplish the thing

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he promised to do all those years ago. It's such

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a beautiful thought, Abby. What if we taught

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repentance this way? The invitation to repent

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is an expression of God's love. We're hearing

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this over and over again. I hope it's sinking

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into us, into our hearts. Saying yes to that

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invitation is an expression of ours. Picture

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your favorite image of Christ. Now imagine him

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smiling brightly with joy each time you use his

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gift because he is the perfect brightness of

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hope. Yes, your repentance doesn't burden Jesus

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Christ. It brightens his joy. And when I hear

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that, it also tells me that that adds glory to

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him. When I hear brightens, like each time. each

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time we use the repentance and his atonement,

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it magnifies his glory, I would say. Oh, you

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used your repentance ticket again. You're almost

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out of those. You punched it. It's almost all

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gone. No. It's all punches. Yes. Once we get

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good at doing it, now we can turn to that. It

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becomes more available to us. It's not a finite

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resource. Yes. And I love that. It was an infinite

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atonement for a reason. Not finite. I love that

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she says that she said, let's teach that because

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repentance is our best news. We don't stay on

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the covenant path by never making a mistake.

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We stay on the covenant path by repenting every

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day. And when we're repenting, God forgives without

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shaming us. comparing us to anyone else or scolding

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us because this is the same thing we were repenting

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of last week. I feel like that is very much a

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natural man way to look at things. And 100%,

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it's the way that Satan looks at it, right? The

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shaming, all of that. He's very excited every

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time he sees us on our knees. He delights to

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forgive us because to him, we are delightful.

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I can't stress enough what a light talk this

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is. on such a heavy topic. Yes. Yeah. And when

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you say heavy, like she's talked about heavy

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too. She's like, it almost has like a heft to

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it, right? Like there's, but that's shame. We've

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made it that way. Exactly. So I just love that.

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I mean, the word delight, the word joy, the word,

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like all of these beautiful words that are very

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uplifting. I love it. I love repentance framed

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in that way. The way Satan looks at mistakes

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and sin is not the way God does it. it's a totally

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different view and of course the feelings attached

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to it are very different he would want us to

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hide bury cover or not not cover maybe no well

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no obviously the savior covers oh yeah yeah yeah

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he would want you to hi barry yeah i'm thinking

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through through temple things particularly but

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yes he wants you to be ashamed of them in a way

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that you don't bring them to the surface and

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want to take care of them he he wants you to

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hide from them yes and um Very, very different

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than the way that God wants us to deal with them.

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Say, in the great accuser and deceiver, use a

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shame to keep us from God. Shame is the darkness

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so heavy it feels that you look out. If you took

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it out of your body, it would have an actual

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weight or heft to it. Shame is that voice that

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beat you up saying, what were you thinking? You

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never get anything right. You can't be forgiven

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for that particular thing. It's too heavy. It's

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too much. Mm -hmm. Shame doesn't tell us we made

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a mistake. It tells us we are the mistake. You

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may even hear hide. The adversary does everything

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in his power to keep the heaviness inside, telling

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us that the cost is too high and that it would

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be easier if we stay in the darkness, removing

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all hope. He is the thief of hope. And you need

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to hear this. So I'll say these words out loud.

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You are not the voice in your head or the mistakes

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you have made. You may need to say that for yourself

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out loud too. Tell Satan not today. put him behind

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you. That's interesting. Yeah. Worth isn't tied

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to our obedience. No. I love that that was an

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emphasis here. Yeah. Again, reframing it. The

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Savior is forever brighter than the darkness

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of shame. He would never attack your worth, so

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watch closely. And then she does the hand thing,

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right? She has one hand that's stationary, and

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she says, imagine this hand represents worth.

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And then the other hand. This represents obedience.

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Maybe you woke up this morning, said a meaningful

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prayer, and searched the scriptures to hear God's

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voice. You've made good decisions, and you're

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treating the people around you with Christlikeness.

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You're listening to General Conference. Your

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obedience is here. She has it up high. Or maybe

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things haven't gone so well. You've struggled

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lately to do those small, simple things to connect

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to heaven. You've made some decisions you weren't

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proud of. Where is your worth? Has this hand

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moved at all? She has it up high and it never

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moved. Your worth is not tied to obedience. Your

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worth is constant. It never changes. It was given

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to you by God and there's nothing you or anyone

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else can do to change it. Obedience brings blessings.

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That is true. But worth isn't one of them. So

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good. Your worth is always great in the sight

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of God, no matter where your decisions have taken

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you. Sister Runya, when she was little, she took

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some diving lessons and every dive was judged

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for straight legs, the minimal splash, kind of

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something I love to watch because I'm terrified

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of high jumps. And so then they add some tricks

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into it and all these other components. So there's

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an added measure that the judge take into account.

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The degree of difficulty the dive is going to

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potentially account for. She reminds us that

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each of us is diving, so to speak, with a degree

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of difficulty the Lord knows about. And that

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He is the judge on this. This is why He is the

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judge and not onlookers, bystanders that take

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the opportunity to look at you, your life, and

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make snap judgments about you. The look that

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the Lord has on it is more of intimate knowledge.

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He knows the degree of difficulty. That we all

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have. Of every dive, let's say. Yeah. This is

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also an echo to Elder Cossé's talk. These conference

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talks, they're so well integrated to each other.

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And the way that they stack them, you know, once

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everybody's done their assignment and they prepare

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things that they seem to orchestrate like such

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a beautiful. ebb and flow to conference weekend

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i agree so we get these layers of teaching and

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we might pick up something from one talk and

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then the next one just kind of compounds that

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understanding that we're going to have or as

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you go back to them six months later like you're

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doing that you've got some thoughts in your head

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as you as we add then this next layer of sister

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runia's talk onto it but um here's a quote From

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Elder Cossé, it says, Elder Neal A. Maxwell explained

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that God takes into merciful account not only

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our desires to our performance, but also the

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degree of difficulty which our varied circumstances

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impose upon us. Yes, I did love that echo in

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these talks, because it totally speaks to my

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heart. And Neal A. Maxwell, you can't go wrong

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with that, but I love the quote that he talks

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about that. with a degree of difficulty now an

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action item this is something that another thing

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that um sister runia talked about um it's in

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three third nephi 17 where the people were close

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to the savior and they could hear him praying

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for them and this is what she says if you could

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hear the savior praying for you what do you think

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he would say remember your savior knows the degree

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of difficulty you're experiencing he's felt it

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So maybe something we could try tonight before

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we pray. We've mentioned this before, but let's

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bring it up again. Maybe imagine Jesus Christ

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close by, being your advocate with the Father,

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and ask yourself, what would the Savior say to

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the Father about me? And then sit quietly and

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listen. And listen for that voice that says good

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things about you, the voice of the Savior, your

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finest friend, your Father in heaven, who is

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really there. Remember their love. And your worth

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are always great, no matter what. I love Abby

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that she adds, listen for that voice that says

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good things about you. I think that's a really

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good distinguishing factor. If there's any shame

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or why haven't you figured this out yet type

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of words in there, you know that is not from

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God. What I heard in this talk is what Satan

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does with sin and the use of our agency versus

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our Savior, Jesus Christ, and our Heavenly Father

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do with sin and our agency. I feel like this

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was very, you could really see it clearly in

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this talk. Satan brings shame and feelings of

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darkness and hopelessness. He wants us to look

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at repentance as a chore or something to be avoided.

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And even in this talk, I almost, you know, I

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was saying she talks about it. and i was actually

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referring to repentance and saying how there's

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a heft and a weight to it it was shame and so

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many times i feel like um we as humans we kind

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of think of repentance as a heavy process as

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like it does have a heft to it and she's like

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no no no no that's the way satan wants us to

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look at repentance it is not like that delight

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joy lightness um And even Christ saying, instead

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of repent ye, repent ye, I love you, I love you.

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I mean, just a whole new frame of things. You

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know that's true because when people, when they

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realize that the things they're doing, it's not

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just, you know, kind of checking in with the

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Lord at the end of the day and like kind of unburdening

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yourself of the little things that you've done

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during the day. These bigger ones that have accumulated

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over a period of time to the point where you

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know that you do need to meet with your bishop

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to resolve some of these things. and usually

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fear prevents that for time or you just didn't

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even think that it was a bad thing that you were

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doing maybe something changes in your life you're

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like oh i do want to take care of that you make

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the decision you want to meet with the bishop

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the bishop is you know authorized to represent

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jesus christ like it doesn't mean they're making

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decisions for you but like they're going to use

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the spirit to like speak to you and communicate

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with you and in whatever process is going to

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need to happen to unburden yourself with this

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but um you know that's a long way to get to the

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point of what i was trying to say is that I know

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people, I know time and time again, the story

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is that they'll say something like, I met with

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the bishop and I can't tell you how much lighter

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I feel, right? So it does kind of take on this

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imagery of like, you're carrying around these

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bag of rocks, these burdens, these things. And

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the second that you decide to involve the Savior

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in that process, He's as good as lifted off you.

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Is it done? No. Or is there work to be done?

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But just the unburdening, that's the biggest

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brightness that it brings it gives you hope like

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you're like you start you start taking the cloud

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cloudiness off of that self -worth satan's been

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working on that like you're not good enough he

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doesn't want to hear what you have to say you

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know i'm burning that you can't that's such a

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bad thing you can't do that yeah um it takes

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the blinders that we put on ourself off and like

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i said people feel lighter i feel like too you

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know in this in this process that you were just

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describing abby i feel like part of it is when

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we actually come to ourselves and we have the

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courage and the strength to say out loud something

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that we wanted to keep deep in our hearts and

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not let any other person ever ever know that

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think of it that way it's like satan saying hide

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so as soon as we stop hiding and we bring it

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into the light literally bring it to christ that's

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when the burden is lifted i mean there is an

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actual process to this and like you said anyone

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who's gone through this You feel that lightness

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and you feel like something, I mean, it like

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unlocks a key and you are a different person.

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That is the power of the atonement. So on the

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other hand, God and Christ offer brightness of

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hope and they offer redemption and ultimately

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to live with them. This is what Sister Runia

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says. I stand here to witness that Jesus Christ

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gives light to those who sit in darkness. So

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on those days when you feel that voice telling

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you to hide. that you should hide in a dark room

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all by yourself, I invite you to be brave and

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believe Christ. Walk over and turn on the light,

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our perfect brightness of hope. May we all come

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unto Christ saying, will you help me with the

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hope, a revealed assurance that his arms are

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extended to you always. I believe this fresh

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view of repentance means that even though we

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don't have perfect obedience yet, we try affectionate

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obedience now, choosing to stay again and again

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because we love him. And I echo Sister Runya's

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final words, may the Lord of lights wrap you

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in his arms and console you and love you continually.

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May we love him continually and choose him again

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and again. Such a great talk. I hope you have

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enjoyed it this week and just let this sit on

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your heart and ask the Lord how he feels about

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you and listen to all of the good things that

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he has to say. Catch you next time.
