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Welcome to Closer to Christ, the General Conference,

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent General

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Conference talks. This is Abby and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Today we're discussing the talk

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Worship by Elder D. Todd Christofferson of the

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Quorum of the Twelve. Now, when Jesus was born

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in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the

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king, behold, there came wise men from the east

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to Jerusalem, saying, Where is he that is born

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king of the Jews? For we have seen his star in

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the east, and we are come to worship him. We're

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going to suggest in this episode a self -reflection

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question. So that question is, what does worshiping

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God mean to you? How does that view of worship

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translate into the actions that we actually perform

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in our worship? I really love this talk, Abby,

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and I'm excited to jump in. Same. The Magi, as

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they were sometimes called, were wise in seeking

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to find and worship the Messiah. For them, worshiping

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meant falling down before the Savior, offering

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Him gifts of gold and precious fragrant spices.

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As Elder Christofferson said, I think there are

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many lessons to be offered by the Magi, so I

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spent some more time pondering on. you know how

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the magi worship through their example to come

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to and worship the savior the wise men needed

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spiritual awareness to recognize the sign of

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the star for sure it was available for all to

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see but they were the ones who had eyes to see

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it that means that they knew what sign they were

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looking for and they believed in the prophecies

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that had come before they were actively watching

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for their savior with only a star as their guide

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they spent years seeking the savior which meant

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a sacrifice of time and comforts and their safety

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in search for this prophesied Savior. We know

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that they faced obstacles like Herod, his deception,

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and the uncertainty about where to find this

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child. But through that all, they persisted.

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And they didn't stop at seeing the star. They

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acted with purpose in seeking the Savior. When

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they finally met Him, they knew Him. They fell

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at his feet. They offered these gifts, which

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symbolize his kingship, divinity, and future

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suffering, further testifying that they knew

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they were in the presence of their Savior. And

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then after meeting him, were warned in a dream

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not to return to Herod, meaning that they are

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willing to obey and depart in another way, showing

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continued responsiveness to God's direction.

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Wow. In his words, their journey is a powerful

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pattern for all who seek to worship Christ today.

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It totally is, Abby. Have you ever seen that

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movie? It's called The Fourth Wise Men. Fantastic.

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Where's it on or where'd you see it? It's from

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the 80s. Anyway, look it up at some point. Sounds

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during Christmas. It just talks about like this

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life, but it really is. Be the wise men that

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seek him. Yes. And he spent his whole life looking

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for him. He wasn't one of the three, right? He

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was the fourth. So he was later. Anyway, as you're

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reading this, I'm just thinking of, yes, a life

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of sacrifice and all the things that they did.

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This is very powerful. So to reiterate the question,

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what does worshiping God mean to you and me?

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Typically, our thoughts go to the way we practice

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our religion at home and in private. Elder Christofferson

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is... pondered on the matter of worshiping our

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Heavenly Father and His Beloved Son, our Savior.

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And he identified four concepts to focus on.

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Number one, the actions that constitute our worship.

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Number two, the attitudes and feelings that figure

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into our worship. Number three, the exclusivity

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of our worship. I like that. And when I first

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heard that, I was like, what does that mean?

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So we're going to jump into it. It is the one

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that I was like, what does he mean by that? And

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it's perfect. Number four, the need to emulate

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the holy beings that we worship. So we gather

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in consecrated spaces to perform acts. devotion.

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In an effort to separate ourselves from the world,

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we'll join to partake of the sacrament on His

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holy day. This is the primary purpose for our

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buildings, dedicated chapels. But, he mentioned,

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even non -dedicated spaces treated with a degree

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of sanctity can also work. It caused me to think

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of the little one -room bar that I attended sacrament

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meeting in when I was in Aguas Calientes, Peru.

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And it was a bar, pretty obvious, but it was

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cleaned and prepared in such a way that the emblems

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of the sacrament... 20 years later, it's still

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special. So I don't know. I just like kind of

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reminiscing on that. Like sacrament rooms are

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nice. We can cherish them and they're beautiful,

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but you can make a place to worship just about

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anywhere that, you know, more than one person

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is willing to gather in his name. That's awesome.

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set it apart make it holy right this talk causes

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us to ponder on the actions we do as we gather

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on the lord's day we dress our best according

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to our means not extra not extravagantly but

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modestly in a way to signal our respect and reverence

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for deity in our attitude Or rather, is our attitude

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one of reverence and respect? Joining in prayer,

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really joining, not just listening when singing

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the hymns. Teaching and learning from each other

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is a form of worship. Jesus says, remember that

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on this, the Lord's day, thou shalt offer thine

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oblations, meaning your offerings of time, talents,

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and means in service of God and fellow men, and

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thy sacraments unto the Most High, confessing

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thy sins unto the brethren. unto thy brethren

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and before the Lord. Our object is to come together

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to remember him and also be instructed more perfectly

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in his gospel. Abby, I just was listening to

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the part, it's in Alma, in the Book of Mormon,

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where it talked about the hearer not being any

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better than the preacher, you know, the one who's

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teaching and the one who's listening. And that's

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what this reminds me of too, that that's just

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part of the way that God would have it is we're

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all learning together and it's very, there's

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a nice flow to it. There's not like a hierarchy

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of like, I'm the teacher and you're not. Because

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we all know darn well that one week we might

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be the teacher and the next week we might be

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the listener. That's how it works with us. Level

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playing field because the spirit is the medium

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that we're all concerned about. That if you're

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the one that's supposed to be listening to the

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lesson, the spirit can prick. And if you're the

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one teaching the lesson, if you're doing it by

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the spirit, that, yeah, no one's better, but

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we're all being better together. Love that. Most

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recent general conference, just the previous

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one, Elder Patrick Kieran reminded us that we

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do not gather on the Sabbath simply to attend

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sacrament meeting and check it off the list.

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We come together to worship. There's a significant

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difference between the two. To attend means to

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be present. To worship is to intentionally praise

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and adore our God in a way that transforms us.

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It's awesome. I'm going to say it again. To attend

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means to be present, but to worship is to intentionally

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praise and adore our God in a way that transforms

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us. That is so powerful. I think we're going

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to continue going back to Elder Kieran's talk

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on that because there's just so much to learn

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there. It was nice knowing it came from a perspective

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of maybe having more exposure to other churches.

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Like, I don't have that. So when I listen to

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his words, I'm like, I've tried to go and attend

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other meetings. If a friend's invited me to their

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services, I've taken that opportunity. he has

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he he's seen what worship looks like when like

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when things look a little bit different maybe

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I don't know I just appreciated his perspective

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I heard the talk in that way the way that he

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brought up like joyful reverence was in that

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talk and I was like exactly it doesn't mean like

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just sitting with your feet on the floor and

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cross -armed and not saying a word. It's showing

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that we're so satisfied with the things that

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we're hearing, like our spirits pricked and we

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can make some noise, but it doesn't have to be

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like exaggerated and exuberant noise. It doesn't

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have to include drums and guitars and stuff.

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Right. I just, I liked his thoughts. And so I'm

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really glad that this talk brought it up. Yeah,

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circle back around again. I agree, Abby. Because

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we've had six months to think on that talk. And

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then this one just kind of handpicked some of

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the most amazing lines from it and builds on

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it. Yes, transformative. Devoting our Sabbath

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to the Lord and his purposes is itself an act

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of worship. He referenced how years ago, then

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Elder Russell M. Nelson observed, how do we hallow

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the Sabbath day? Many years ago, that might have

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been a compiled list of things to do and things

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not to do on the Sabbath. From the scriptures,

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we learned that our conduct and attitude on the

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Sabbath constitute a sign between us and Heavenly

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Father. Lists are no longer necessary when this

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is our litmus. The do's and don'ts are unnecessary

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once we remember to just gauge what we are about

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to do with this question. What sign is this giving

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to Father in Heaven? Or Elder Christofferson

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stated it like this, what sign do I want to give

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to God? That's so good. It's nice to be done

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with the checklist items. I do remember seeing

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that list when I was a kid and I was like, I

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felt overwhelmed by it. I was like, sheesh, I

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feel like I can kind of feel in my heart what

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feels good and what doesn't because a kid knows

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that. I do want to specify like the list coming

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maybe from the church. It's no longer appropriate

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or necessary. I do have a friend and she had,

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well, I'm just, I'm just saying. that is the

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church we used to live in. It's like, well, we

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don't do that on Sundays. Well, who said? It's

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like, well, you know, I'm not saying it was like

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a correlated list, but you'd be like, oh, you

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jump on the tramp on Sundays. Oh, blah, blah,

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blah. Like whatever, whatever your thing is.

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But we're kind of past that. We were saying,

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what sign do we want to give to the Lord? I do

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have a friend, she was raising eight kids. And

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so they did as a family create a list and it

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didn't say things we can't do on Sunday. It said

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things we do on Sunday. And it was fun. things

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write a note color a picture and i'm not going

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to go it's i'm not going to make the list for

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you because as a family you can decide you know

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totally what what that looks like so i'm not

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saying a list is inappropriate i'm just saying

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that the message is what you know what sign are

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we going to give to the lord you know my kid

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wanted to go fishing today my husband's like

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we're not going to go fishing and i'm like And

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my litmus is like, we did church, we've worshipped,

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we've done other good things. I don't think it's

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that big of a deal. I can totally support my

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husband if he doesn't want to do the fishing

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thing. But he's like, well, there's six other

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days we can do that. Okay, we can have that discussion.

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I'm not going to get in a fight about it, but

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we can all have our list. Some people are like,

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we don't watch sports on Sundays. And some families,

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that's their together time. They love the energy

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of a sports game. That's not our thing. I mean,

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we turn on the Super Bowl just so we can have

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gummy food. But I'm just saying I appreciate

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that we've moved past that. The lists aren't

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necessary and they're not. The point was missed

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when we were kind of doing it in list fashion.

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Agreed. Also, it kind of like you shut your brain

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off sometimes when you see a list. And like you

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were just saying, you know, we've been to church.

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I feel like. Now, it's one thing because I was

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just talking about this literally with my mom

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because we live right by the river and people

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were going down the river and we were chatting

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about it on Sunday, right? So I was saying, you

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know, and she was too, we've been to church and

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we renewed our covenants and being out in nature.

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I don't see anything. This is me. Don't see anything

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wrong with that. And then the next thing I said

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was, the difference is when you replace nature

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with renewing your covenants. Now, if it's replacing

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it, that's a whole other conversation. Do you

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know what I mean? So yeah, I feel like that the

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list is wide. And as long as we ask, what sign

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do I want to give to God? I think that that will

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direct us and our families will be happy with

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that. Right. And then it doesn't make it like,

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oh, it's Sunday. We can't do this, that, and

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the other. What can we do? Anything that draws

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you closer to your Savior. Like you said, you've

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renewed your covenants and then passed that.

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Yes. Our Sabbath day worship is intended to be

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centered around the great atoning sacrifice of

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Jesus Christ. We appropriately and specially

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celebrate his resurrection at Easter, but also

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every week as we partake of the sacramental emblems

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of his atonement, including his resurrection.

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for the penitent partaking of the sacrament is

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the highlight of sabbath worship worshiping together

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as the body of christ has unique power and benefits

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as we teach and serve and sustain one another

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maybe many of you have the opportunity to partake

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of the emblems of the sacrament in your own home

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during the months of covid like us was that like

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a worldwide I don't know, in our area, whoever,

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the powers that be authorized the priesthood

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bearers to perform the sacrament in the home.

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And for us, it was a sacred experience. I cherished

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that time in our homes. I cherished having one

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of our rooms dedicated to this special act. And

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when I reflect back on it, I'm reminded of those

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tender feelings that I have about it. When we

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got back to church and we gathered to do that

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same thing together in unity with other ward

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members, my testimony of gathering together was

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strengthened. I loved being at home, but I was

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able to see the contrast of that compared to

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gathering together to do the same thing. 100%.

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I was actually surprised. Of being willing and

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wanting to go back? Just because I loved being...

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like I'm an introvert and I love being home so

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much that I was like, there's no way I'm going

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to love going back as much as I love this because

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it's been such a beautiful experience. And I

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too was taken back. When I went back, there was

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just a feeling of this is why we gather and just

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such an expansive feeling. And it was like, I

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love this. Like I was so happy to be back. What

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a blessing, you know? Agreed. Elder Christofferson

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referenced a recent research study here. And

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when looking deeper into that, we found it was

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conducted in February of the same year. So the

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research, showed that 56 % of U .S. Christian

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adults viewed their spiritual lives as entirely

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private. This was so interesting to me. The remainder

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of Christians, 44%, tend to be more open when

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thinking about sharing their spiritual life and

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walk with others. And then it's this. Christians

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who view their lives as entirely private are

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less likely to say that it is very important

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to see progress in their spiritual life, that

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their faith is very important in their life today,

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and that they have weekly time with God. So again,

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that brings us back to there is something about

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sharing it when we share it, it grows, right?

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Christians who seek to grow in their faith and

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walk with Christ are more likely to do so when

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they're open to journeying alongside others.

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That includes sharing about their spiritual life

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so that fellow believers and friends can challenge

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them to grow in healthy ways. It makes the scripture

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we referenced earlier, remember on this, the

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Lord's day, thou shall offer thine offerings

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of time, talents, or means in service of God

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and fellow men. More special knowing that in

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worship together, we grow our faith and make

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more time for God. When I was listening to this,

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Abby, this talk this week, I just thought back

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on, it kind of is comfortable just to kind of

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keep your faith close to your heart. Kind of

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is comfortable and you're not going to mess up.

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You're not going to step on toes. You're not

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going to whatever. But as I read this and or

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listen to it, I really I feel like the spirit

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was really testifying to my heart that it really

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is a spiritual gift to be able to share that,

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to articulate that. And I think we're all working

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on that. I don't think it's comfortable for anyone.

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Maybe it is. Maybe there are the people are like,

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you're a joke. It's very comfortable for me.

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I practice it for so long. But I think for most

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of us. it's hard and we might make mistakes and

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we might fall but that's what spiritual gifts

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look like and that's what being a disciple of

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christ looks like is that we continue to try

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and we continue to lift others up and grow in

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that way and what's also true is like sometimes

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you're the one that has to prepare the lesson

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but just like the warm body that's come out of

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their comfortable home you know gotten dressed

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up and ready and just sitting in that chair even

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if they're not really wanting to or open to opening

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their mouths and sharing a lot just being there

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being a receptacle of that lesson that's being

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taught, it still does add to that community worship.

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You can still be quiet, an introvert, a wallflower,

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but still there. Totally. Gathering. That's like

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such a sign to the Lord. Like, especially if

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you do come from that place where you would way

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rather be at home and he totally knows that about

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you and you just show up. You know, if I'm sitting

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there and I'm impressed to say something and

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I don't, like... I need to share. Like, it's

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good for me to share, but sometimes I'm just

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content just to sit and listen. Oh, yeah. Church

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is where we are supported in our faith journey.

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Home is where our gospel efforts are centered,

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though. In our homes, kind of tweaked, you know,

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church -centered or home -centered, church -supported.

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But in our homes, we perform daily acts of worship.

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The Savior reminds us, nevertheless, thy vow

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shall be offered up in righteousness on all days

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and at all times. And we're not a church all

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the time. So we do know that extends to the other

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days of the week. We remember the Zoramites had

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been banned from gathering together to worship

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in their synagogues, but we know from that that

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they were instructed to worship in whatsoever

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place that they may be instead. Okay, let them

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withhold your synagogues from you, but that doesn't

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mean that there's not places to worship. It's

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nice to know that in an effort to obey the law

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of the land you're living in, if you're banned

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from worshiping together, that your individual

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efforts at home or inside your home you know

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can be made more powerful um speaking about prayer

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as a form of worship they say you must pour out

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your souls in your closets in your secret places

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and in your wilderness yea and when you do not

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cry unto the lord let your hearts be full drawn

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out in prayer unto him continually so these verbal

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prayers in these quiet places where you're not

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banned from doing that and in your heart if if

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that's where you can pray you know pray pray

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in your heart Just heard the news on some recent

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developments in China. So in July of this year,

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2025, Chinese officials have banned the activities

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of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day

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Saints in Beijing. The church has operated there

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for over 20 years under unofficial arrangements,

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but recent national crackdowns on foreign religious

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groups have led closure in several cities. The

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LDS Church, which is not among China's five legally

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sanctioned religions, has emphasized its intent

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to follow the law. Obviously, we follow the law

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of the land that we're in while seeking mutual

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understanding. So foreign members like those

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of the U .S. embassy staff are now unable to

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meet in person. And broader restrictions remain,

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such as separating Chinese and foreign worshipers.

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You know, that's always been a thing, a part

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of their law. Like if you're Chinese national

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versus. Like an expatriate. So experts view the

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ban as part of a larger campaign against foreign

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-based religions and non -governmental organizations.

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The situation presents a difficulty for the Chinese

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government because if they are to recognize the

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LDS government, or I'm sorry, the LDS church,

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it could open up the door for other world religions

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to seek official status. And I think they're

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pretty content. with the standard, with the five

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that they have. I mean, the ones that were recently

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banned apparently didn't like file like a certain

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paperwork or whatever that they needed to. So

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we understand that, like you've got to follow

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things to a T and follow their rules. But I was

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just thinking, you know, there's probably some

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broken hearts where they're not able to gather

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together. But where we're saying, and we're saying,

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we're saying gather and join together, it's our

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obligation, our duty to gather together because

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we benefit so much from each other. It becomes

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impossible to gather together. I feel like the

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Lord. can magnify your individual worship opportunities.

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If that's what's available to you, if that is

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the best you are doing, he will give you 100

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% of the blessings that he is able. And we probably

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all felt that at some time or another. For sure.

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So if you were to be in a country that banned

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religious gatherings, we experienced that here

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during COVID like we were just talking about.

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The message also spoke of searching the scriptures,

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bearing testimony of Christ, performing charitable

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acts and service. And receiving the Holy Ghost.

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So, again. Is another way of worshiping. Exactly.

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Yeah. I totally believe that the Lord. Those

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things can go, like, take, they can recharge

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us. Yes. As much as gathering together would

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have had we been able to gather. Yes. And the

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Lord is very creative. If there is not a way

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that we're able to do something that we think,

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like, there's only one way, like before, it's

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the only one. Way to go to church was to be at

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church. Then COVID happened. And probably for

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other people, other things happened. And the

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Lord's like, there are numerous ways for me to

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allow you to feel of my spirit for you to do

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all of these things. So I just feel that over

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and over again that, yes, he can compensate for

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that. Love it. Okay. The next concept he discussed

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were the attitudes and feelings that contribute

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to our worship. So the tale. end of the list

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that we were reviewing included living in thanksgiving

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daily like that list that you went through um

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the the the last thing on that list was thanksgiving

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daily but i was like that feels like it should

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go with the attitudes and feelings instead of

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like leading into it so do we ever just stop

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and think that expressing gratitude of the things

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that are around us is a form of worship i mean

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i i think i know that it I know that my feelings

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of gratitude for the thing strengthen my relationship

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with him, but it's cool to be reminded like that's

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a form of worship to point out the things that

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you're grateful for that you see around you.

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We have the choice to consider worship as an

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obligation, something we've checked off a list,

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a list of duties that we have, or we can. feel

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that our acts of worship are reprieved from the

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world and something that brings us joyful renewal.

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Did you like how I used that word, joyful renewal?

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Yes, of course. Honestly, thinking here of the

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times that I've let assignments or callings take

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so much out of me that I feel drained instead

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of joyfully renewed. And so I feel like that

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was an opportunity to reassess the things that

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I'm doing and simplify when appropriate. Like

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if you're not feeling recharged after your efforts,

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Is there an opportunity to simplify it so that

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we can feel joyfully renewed instead? That's

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a great question, Abby. Is the extra things that

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we're doing, drawing us closer to Jesus Christ,

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were they really necessary? I'm fine being exhausted

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if those efforts were like really impactful.

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Totally. Like FSY. Yes. I'm exhausted. Like the

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sleep that you get after like a week long of

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that is insane. But I'm totally aware that that's

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going to be the thing. And I'm totally happy

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to give that. Because it's not like my whole

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life. And you signed up two more times after

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the first one. Yeah, like I'll sign up as much

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as they'll ever let me. So great. And plus, my

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responsibility is way minimal compared to these

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poor counselors and leaders, these youth leaders

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that they have. But again, they do it fully aware

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that that's what they can offer to the Lord in

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that season of their life. I love that. True

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worship means loving God and yielding our will

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to Him. the most precious gift we can offer.

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This was the pattern of Jesus' own worship of

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the Father. His life and his atoning sacrifice

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were dedicated to the glory of the Father. Poignantly,

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we remember Jesus' heart -rending plea in the

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midst of unimaginable suffering and anguish.

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He says, O my Father, if it be possible, let

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this cup pass from me. But then he's submissive.

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Nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.

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Each day we can choose to offer for a sacrifice

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unto him of a broken heart and a contrite spirit.

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Isn't that cool? Each day we can do that? Yeah.

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If we mess that up one day, it's fine. The next

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day is going to come. We have another chance.

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It's kind of hard for black and white thinking,

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but when you remember that, you're like, oh yeah,

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every day. Yes, every day is a new day. His third

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point was about the exclusivity of our worship.

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And like you said, that's the one that peaked

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our ears as he was starting it. And it's the

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one that I wanted to dig the most into. He totally

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did it on purpose. Yeah. What does he mean? Are

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we exclusive? D &C, one talks about, this is

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the quote from there. they have strayed from

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mine ordinances and have broken my everlasting

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covenant they seek not the lord to establish

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his righteousness but every man walketh in his

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own way and after the image of his own god whose

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image is the likeness of the world and recounts

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the story of shadrach meshach and abednego because

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from them we learned that when we put our trust

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in the one true god anything that um anything

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that we let take precedence of in a in another

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way is like worshiping is is idol worship one

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who places loyalty to a party or cause ahead

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of divine direction is worshiping a false god

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even those who purport to worship god but don't

00:24:13.130 --> 00:24:15.049
keep his commandments are walking in their own

00:24:15.049 --> 00:24:17.730
way they say they draw near to me with their

00:24:17.730 --> 00:24:20.220
lips but their hearts are far from me So the

00:24:20.220 --> 00:24:23.740
object of our worship is exclusively the only

00:24:23.740 --> 00:24:27.200
true God and Jesus Christ whom he has sent. There

00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:30.839
it goes. I like that because it's not a list

00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:32.339
of what those things look like, but it's like

00:24:32.339 --> 00:24:34.180
anything that takes our focus away from them.

00:24:34.779 --> 00:24:38.480
Absolutely. Abby, I love any time that a talk

00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:41.779
references scripture stories because it kind

00:24:41.779 --> 00:24:43.480
of like takes you back to it. You remember it

00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:46.519
again. One of my absolute favorites is this one

00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:48.960
with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Just because

00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.460
like when you go back and read it, you know,

00:24:51.460 --> 00:24:53.000
if you take the time to do that and you just

00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:58.460
remember like this was a dire situation. They

00:24:58.460 --> 00:25:02.319
had no assumption that anything other than being

00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:04.779
burned alive was going to be happening to them.

00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:08.230
And I love it. Still didn't deny it. Right? When

00:25:08.230 --> 00:25:10.809
you read that, you're like, holy cow, like that,

00:25:10.869 --> 00:25:14.190
reading that scripture story puts into my heart

00:25:14.190 --> 00:25:17.730
like a firmer conviction to have that type of

00:25:17.730 --> 00:25:20.099
faith in Jesus Christ and in my God. You know

00:25:20.099 --> 00:25:22.619
what I mean? And for everyone, like I hope my

00:25:22.619 --> 00:25:24.359
children to have that. Anyway, I just love that

00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:26.460
story. Anytime it's talked about or referenced,

00:25:26.579 --> 00:25:30.380
it makes my heart happy. Okay, so his fourth

00:25:30.380 --> 00:25:34.099
and final point of worship is this idea that

00:25:34.099 --> 00:25:36.180
as we come to know the Father and the Son, our

00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:38.619
worship should cause us to want to emulate the

00:25:38.619 --> 00:25:40.880
things they did. Ultimately, how we live may

00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:44.339
be the best, most genuine form of worship. Cultivating

00:25:44.339 --> 00:25:47.000
their attributes and character in ourselves is

00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:50.079
the most sincere. form of worship. I love this,

00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.380
that he added this too. It's very good. As the

00:25:52.380 --> 00:25:55.720
saying goes, imitation is the sincerest form

00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:58.759
of flattery. With respect to deity, emulation

00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:02.660
is the sincerest form of veneration. Now he sounds

00:26:02.660 --> 00:26:06.920
like President Nelson. Or Oaks. Yes, he does.

00:26:07.259 --> 00:26:11.559
So good. This means to me that we've studied

00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.119
enough to know the true nature of Heavenly Father

00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.500
and His Son, Jesus Christ. And we don't naturally

00:26:18.500 --> 00:26:21.119
come by those characteristics on our own. But

00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.700
implementing them. And emulating, yeah. Yeah,

00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.420
implementing them despite the opposition that

00:26:26.420 --> 00:26:28.339
we're facing because of those natural man tendencies

00:26:28.339 --> 00:26:31.259
we have in an act of sustained effort on our

00:26:31.259 --> 00:26:34.700
part helps us to see holiness. And in doing so,

00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:39.519
we become more Christ -like. And this is because

00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:43.079
of our acts of worship. True worship is transformative.

00:26:44.569 --> 00:26:47.470
I love it too, because in the last podcast we

00:26:47.470 --> 00:26:50.089
did, I was trying to get at this point. And when

00:26:50.089 --> 00:26:52.329
I reread this talk, I'm like, he said it perfectly.

00:26:52.789 --> 00:26:55.410
But it's like, you stay tuned on the next talk.

00:26:55.509 --> 00:26:57.950
It's going to come. Yes. Yes. It is so good.

00:26:58.069 --> 00:27:00.910
It's exactly it. In doing so, we become like

00:27:00.910 --> 00:27:03.630
Christ. Love that. The covenant path, the path

00:27:03.630 --> 00:27:06.009
of worship, love, and loyalty to God begins with

00:27:06.009 --> 00:27:08.470
baptism, taking upon us the name of Christ and

00:27:08.470 --> 00:27:10.750
keeping his commandments. We receive the gift

00:27:10.750 --> 00:27:13.289
of the Holy Ghost, the messenger of the Savior's

00:27:13.289 --> 00:27:15.720
grace that redeems and cleanses us from sin as

00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:19.079
we repent we could even say that in repenting

00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:21.720
we are worshiping him oh absolutely right because

00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:23.660
we're turning to him and we're also seeing that

00:27:23.660 --> 00:27:26.279
he is actually transforming our lives for the

00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.430
better Therefore, follow additional priesthood

00:27:30.430 --> 00:27:32.309
ordinances and covenants made in the house of

00:27:32.309 --> 00:27:34.910
the Lord that further sanctify us. The ceremonies

00:27:34.910 --> 00:27:36.930
and also ordinances of the temple constitute

00:27:36.930 --> 00:27:39.509
an elevated form of worship. President Russell

00:27:39.509 --> 00:27:41.829
M. Nelson has emphasized that every man and every

00:27:41.829 --> 00:27:45.250
woman who participates in priesthood ordinances

00:27:45.250 --> 00:27:47.250
and who makes and keeps covenants with God has

00:27:47.250 --> 00:27:50.650
direct access to the power of God. I love this.

00:27:51.479 --> 00:27:53.380
I love all the things we've talked about today

00:27:53.380 --> 00:27:56.579
and just the different quotes from the brethren

00:27:56.579 --> 00:27:59.059
and the different scripture stories they brought

00:27:59.059 --> 00:28:03.160
to mind. Yes. Now, an action item. Abby, do you

00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:04.539
have something else to say? I was just thinking

00:28:04.539 --> 00:28:07.299
of an action item right here. What is one way

00:28:07.299 --> 00:28:09.559
that... I might tweak what I'm doing to improve

00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:11.720
my worship. I love that. That's a great way to

00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.240
synthesize it. It's like this talk, as you're

00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.140
listening to it, you may think, yes, I'm doing

00:28:16.140 --> 00:28:17.839
those things. I'm seeing the benefits of making

00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:21.039
my worship not just a Sunday experience and not

00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.880
just a home experience, but the fusion of both

00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.079
as far as we're able to, permitted to, given

00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:27.900
the confines of governments that we're in or

00:28:27.900 --> 00:28:31.900
whatever. But I love that idea that we might

00:28:31.900 --> 00:28:36.190
think, maybe I can be a little bit more. receptive

00:28:36.190 --> 00:28:38.109
as this emblems of the sacrament or during the

00:28:38.109 --> 00:28:40.289
prayer or maybe i'm more intentional about my

00:28:40.289 --> 00:28:42.990
time in the scriptures yeah whatever it is it

00:28:42.990 --> 00:28:45.299
doesn't There's a million things that we could

00:28:45.299 --> 00:28:47.140
be doing, maybe more acts of service during the

00:28:47.140 --> 00:28:50.140
week. I like the idea of just picking one way

00:28:50.140 --> 00:28:52.359
to tweak that. And it's like whatever comes to

00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:54.259
your mind, I just take that and run with that

00:28:54.259 --> 00:28:57.000
because I also feel like that is the Spirit telling

00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.140
me that and the Lord knows what blessings I need

00:28:59.140 --> 00:29:01.839
coming up. Well, you've had that impression,

00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:03.859
like you said, that you were usually more hesitant

00:29:03.859 --> 00:29:06.279
to share and speak up in church. And so you kind

00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:07.980
of just sit. It was about bearing your testimony

00:29:07.980 --> 00:29:10.690
or something. And then back in the day, this

00:29:10.690 --> 00:29:13.890
was years ago, but just that one, that one small

00:29:13.890 --> 00:29:15.650
tweak that it was like, Amy, you've got a testimony

00:29:15.650 --> 00:29:17.190
of me and I'd like you to share it. Like there's

00:29:17.190 --> 00:29:18.890
somebody that needs to hear that. Yeah, it's

00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:22.309
fine. Like, don't let, don't let your probably

00:29:22.309 --> 00:29:24.710
going to cry that that embarrasses you. But he's

00:29:24.710 --> 00:29:26.170
like, that's not embarrassing to me. Like, I

00:29:26.170 --> 00:29:27.549
just need you to share your testimony. And you've

00:29:27.549 --> 00:29:29.410
done that thing. And you've been able to be way

00:29:29.410 --> 00:29:32.390
more open about sharing your testimony at that

00:29:32.390 --> 00:29:34.990
point. And I can think of a million things that

00:29:34.990 --> 00:29:39.349
he's done to tweak me, you know. And there's

00:29:39.349 --> 00:29:41.250
a lot more room that I can improve. I'm not going

00:29:41.250 --> 00:29:43.769
to feel overwhelmed and like devastated by all

00:29:43.769 --> 00:29:45.430
the things that I could be doing. I like this

00:29:45.430 --> 00:29:49.289
action item. Pick one thing to tweak this week

00:29:49.289 --> 00:29:51.829
or for the next little bit that you can tweak

00:29:51.829 --> 00:29:54.349
your worship. And you know, I mean, the gospel

00:29:54.349 --> 00:29:57.980
is so, it's so full. There are so many aspects

00:29:57.980 --> 00:30:01.779
of it. And to be honest, I'm not 100 % all the

00:30:01.779 --> 00:30:04.200
time thinking, what's the one thing I can tweak

00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:06.880
in my Sunday worship to be closer to God? So

00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.099
I really appreciate talks like this that focus

00:30:09.099 --> 00:30:12.759
on one aspect of it, because as we... But you

00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:14.759
said Sunday worship, and so the only thing I

00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.210
would click on that... Yeah, like, yeah, seven

00:30:17.210 --> 00:30:20.190
days. Yeah, my worship week is seven days long.

00:30:20.349 --> 00:30:22.849
Yes. And so like, but just that, it's like, as

00:30:22.849 --> 00:30:26.029
we visit every single talk, we get a full picture

00:30:26.029 --> 00:30:27.690
of all of the things that we can be doing. So

00:30:27.690 --> 00:30:29.789
I do love that. I have the same sentiment as

00:30:29.789 --> 00:30:31.829
you. I don't want to be overwhelmed with a list

00:30:31.829 --> 00:30:33.289
and be like, shoot, because really, if we were

00:30:33.289 --> 00:30:35.230
looking at all the things I'm not doing, that

00:30:35.230 --> 00:30:37.630
could be a cause for depression. However, just

00:30:37.630 --> 00:30:40.809
doing one. special tweak, one little tweak, that's

00:30:40.809 --> 00:30:43.230
it, then I feel very hopeful in that. And even

00:30:43.230 --> 00:30:44.970
opening that up to the heavens, like Heavenly

00:30:44.970 --> 00:30:47.470
Father, like I have a desire to be more worshipful.

00:30:47.609 --> 00:30:49.710
What's one thing you can see that I can improve

00:30:49.710 --> 00:30:51.569
on? And you let him give you some guidance on

00:30:51.569 --> 00:30:53.569
picking the one thing. Yeah. Kind of helps put

00:30:53.569 --> 00:30:55.390
the other ones on the shelf and like not be so

00:30:55.390 --> 00:30:57.910
noisy. Now, what I know to be true is when you

00:30:57.910 --> 00:31:00.650
focus on the thing that you're impressed to focus

00:31:00.650 --> 00:31:03.369
on, sometimes the things that you've shelved

00:31:03.369 --> 00:31:05.769
just kind of magically take care of themselves.

00:31:06.029 --> 00:31:08.740
Yeah. Like that one time when I moved here and

00:31:08.740 --> 00:31:10.140
I was praying about all these different things

00:31:10.140 --> 00:31:12.299
and I just felt that I didn't hear any words,

00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.359
but I felt the words in my heart. What if it's

00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:17.539
all the same mountain? And I was like, thank

00:31:17.539 --> 00:31:20.019
you. That's a good one. Of course it is. And

00:31:20.019 --> 00:31:21.920
it might have come up in the podcast, but it

00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:23.380
might have come up in another podcast or another

00:31:23.380 --> 00:31:26.000
conversation. But the gist of somebody being

00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:27.779
like, I don't read my scriptures. My mom didn't

00:31:27.779 --> 00:31:29.420
read her scriptures. And the mom was like, what?

00:31:29.950 --> 00:31:32.170
I definitely read my scriptures. I got up really

00:31:32.170 --> 00:31:33.910
early in the morning before the kids were up.

00:31:33.990 --> 00:31:35.869
Did you hear the same conversation? No, but this

00:31:35.869 --> 00:31:37.869
wasn't anything podcast related. But the gist

00:31:37.869 --> 00:31:40.210
of it was the mom's like, I got up before like

00:31:40.210 --> 00:31:42.910
things were crazy. Oh, you know who it was? It

00:31:42.910 --> 00:31:45.299
was Al Carraway. Pretty sure, you know, the cute

00:31:45.299 --> 00:31:47.519
tattooed Mormon is what she calls herself, I

00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.940
think. I'm pretty sure it was her thing that

00:31:50.940 --> 00:31:53.180
I was watching. And so she makes it a point to

00:31:53.180 --> 00:31:55.220
get her scriptures out and like the kids will

00:31:55.220 --> 00:31:57.799
like hang on her and see her. But she's in her

00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.400
scriptures and she says oftentimes they'll go

00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:01.440
get their own little books or scriptury things

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:03.579
and they'll come in and worship with her. And

00:32:03.579 --> 00:32:06.039
so I thought, yeah, it makes sense to maximize

00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.640
your time as a mom to do it in the early hours

00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.569
before your kids can see you. And I get that,

00:32:10.650 --> 00:32:12.670
but it's also okay to have a very distracted,

00:32:13.109 --> 00:32:17.069
disjointed worship time. If that's what stage

00:32:17.069 --> 00:32:19.569
of life you're in. Well, because then your kids

00:32:19.569 --> 00:32:22.549
see that that's what matters to you. And so like

00:32:22.549 --> 00:32:24.970
we've talked in other podcasts about making laundry

00:32:24.970 --> 00:32:27.710
sacred, you know, like you're listening to the

00:32:27.710 --> 00:32:29.230
scriptures or listening to a conversation, reflecting

00:32:29.230 --> 00:32:31.369
on something, you know, that's definitely during

00:32:31.369 --> 00:32:32.930
those waking hours, the kids are around, they

00:32:32.930 --> 00:32:36.970
know, you know, they know that. When I have a

00:32:36.970 --> 00:32:39.250
few minutes to spare, that's something that I

00:32:39.250 --> 00:32:41.009
like to do. It's not the only thing I do. I do

00:32:41.009 --> 00:32:43.390
also listen to music, or there are other podcasts

00:32:43.390 --> 00:32:46.470
out there, Murder Mysteries or whatever. It doesn't

00:32:46.470 --> 00:32:51.789
have to be just gospel all the time, but even

00:32:51.789 --> 00:32:55.369
if it's not in a gospel podcast every hour of

00:32:55.369 --> 00:32:58.750
every day, the general feeling in your home can

00:32:58.750 --> 00:33:02.710
be one of joyful worship and a rejuvenating atmosphere

00:33:02.710 --> 00:33:04.529
because of all of the little things that are

00:33:04.529 --> 00:33:08.079
happening. I agree, Abby. Absolutely. You feel

00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:09.720
like you've shared everything you wanted to?

00:33:09.900 --> 00:33:15.599
I do. Okay. I was just thinking, as I was listening

00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.640
to this talk and thinking on it, the efforts

00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:19.500
that I put into my individual worship during

00:33:19.500 --> 00:33:23.539
the week magnify me as an individual, and it

00:33:23.539 --> 00:33:25.920
helps me come prepared on Sundays. I gather to

00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.200
worship with others, with friends, and with the

00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.640
people around me. It gives me something to offer

00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.319
and to share. But the follow -up to that is that

00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:36.579
when I go, on Sundays, other people have also

00:33:36.579 --> 00:33:38.319
done that same preparation. They fill my cup

00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:41.200
too. They share insights from their personal

00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:44.440
studies and their worship activities that I can't,

00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.440
that, you know, in a different way or their perspective

00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.240
on it or their way that they testify of it. It's

00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:50.980
just something that I can't duplicate. Amy and

00:33:50.980 --> 00:33:52.779
I are in primary and the primary presidency just

00:33:52.779 --> 00:33:55.559
implemented on Fast Sundays. Like instead of

00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:58.599
doing a scripture and a talk, it's like a little

00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.339
three to five minute primary testimony meeting.

00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.339
So cute. It was the cutest thing. And I'm like,

00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.740
Yeah, COVID church at home wasn't the worst thing

00:34:07.740 --> 00:34:10.119
in the world. Kind of loved it. But like that

00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.719
moment, the cute little voices coming from the

00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:14.099
pulpit and the sweet little truths that they

00:34:14.099 --> 00:34:16.380
bore. I'm like, I can't duplicate that on my

00:34:16.380 --> 00:34:18.699
own. And it just added to my, oh, I love this

00:34:18.699 --> 00:34:21.639
gospel and the joy that it brings me. It was

00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.940
very sweet. It was awesome. I was looking forward

00:34:23.940 --> 00:34:25.280
to it when they announced it last Sunday and

00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.059
it was everything I thought it would be today.

00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.480
I'm like, thank you for putting me in the primary

00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.159
right now. And I'll wrap it up with his testimony.

00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:36.190
May we, as the ancient Nephites and Lamanites,

00:34:36.289 --> 00:34:38.369
fall down at the feet of Jesus and worship Him.

00:34:38.449 --> 00:34:42.329
May we, as commanded by Jesus, fall down and

00:34:42.329 --> 00:34:44.789
worship the Father in the name of the Son. May

00:34:44.789 --> 00:34:47.210
we receive the Holy Spirit and yield our hearts

00:34:47.210 --> 00:34:50.070
to God, have no other gods before Him, and as

00:34:50.070 --> 00:34:52.510
disciples of Jesus Christ, emulate His character

00:34:52.510 --> 00:34:56.369
in our own lives. I testify that as we do, we

00:34:56.369 --> 00:34:59.590
will experience joy in worship. And He does this

00:34:59.590 --> 00:35:01.780
in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you

00:35:01.780 --> 00:35:03.500
so much for being with us today. Thank you for

00:35:03.500 --> 00:35:05.199
taking a minute to worship, whether you're hearing

00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.179
this on a Sunday or a Thursday or whatever day

00:35:07.179 --> 00:35:10.179
of the week it is. We appreciate you for being

00:35:10.179 --> 00:35:12.900
here with us. That's a wrap. Amen. See you next

00:35:12.900 --> 00:35:13.199
time.
