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Welcome to Closer to Christ through General Conference,

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent General

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Conference talks. This is Abbey and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Today we're discussing the talk,

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Return Unto Me That I May Heal You, by Elder

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S. Mark Palmer of the Seventy. One night during

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a terrible storm, a willow tree in Elder Palmer's

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yard was uprooted and seemed beyond saving. He'd

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planned to cut it down for firewood, but a neighbor

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intervened, urging them to give the tree a chance

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to recover. Despite initial skepticism, they

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followed the neighbor's advice to prop it up,

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trim the branches, take care of it, hoping that

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the single remaining root would help it survive.

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And the result? After some time, he says, we

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saw signs of life as the tree began to take root.

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Now, 12 years later, the tree is vibrant and

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full of life with strong roots and once again

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contributing to the beauty of the landscape.

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Elder Palmer said the story of the willow tree

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reminded him how one can find hope even when

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all seems lost in relation to those who were

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once rooted in the gospel of Jesus Christ or

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others that maybe just have one root barely hanging

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on. So you might say, what does it look like

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to have but a single root hanging on? We might

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have those around us that once had testimonies

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of the gospel that were strong and vibrant like

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the willow. And then through a series of events

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that are... personal. These testimonies become

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weakened, leading to a loss of faith and maybe

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job loss, becoming offended by a comment, a policy

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change. Man, there are just so many things, right?

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A dispute with a neighbor, unexpected loss, chronic

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illness or pain, addiction, death of a loved

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one. Any combination of any number of these things

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might be the wind that uproots a person who was

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once deeply rooted in the gospel. And it's also

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important to be aware that those that join us

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weekly are trying with all their might as they're

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hanging on with the slimmest of roots, tapping

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into that gospel soil, one small gust of life's

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challenges, and they may have nothing left to

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hold on to anymore. Not a question that, you

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know, you're asking people to answer, but something

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I thought of as I heard this part was a question

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to self -reflect on, asking myself, would I treat

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those around me in the church differently if

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I knew that they were hanging on by one root?

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Absolutely. In his service around the world,

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Elder Palmer has been able to witness stories

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of so many who have chosen to renew their discipleship

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and come back into their church home. Rather

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than discarding their faith and belief like worthless

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firewood, instead they have responded to spiritual

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promptings and loving invitations to return.

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Let's see what we can learn from some of the

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insights in his examples. Okay, he talked about

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an instance that he had at a state conference

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in Korea. A returning member expressed gratitude

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for the kindness and acceptance he received despite

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his struggles with faith, and he noted that many

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less active friends also desire to regain their

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faith and even encouraged each other to return

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to church. Could we draw the analogy that the

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neighbor that rushed to another's fallen? to

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his fallen willow tree, know something about

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others who have taken a beating by the wind and

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saw them too brought back to life with little

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attention and care. I've personally had my own

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testimony strengthened by people who have stepped

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away for a time and then took the difficult steps

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to come back. They have a unique ability to testify

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of their experiences and my resolve to work on

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digging a little bit deeper in hopes of weathering

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life's storms happens as they share their testimony.

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of being away and coming back. This example he

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shared concluded with an invitation for all who

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are seeking faith to come back with the promise

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that their faith can grow through worship with

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fellow believers. Very good. Another one he shares,

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Abby, is a former missionary from Africa wrote

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to a church leader seeking forgiveness for taking

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offense at a teaching about a cultural tradition

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which led him to leave the church. He expressed

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deep regret for the heavy personal losses he

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experienced over 15 years and the harm he may

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have caused. Grateful to have returned, he shared

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his joy in finding his way back. The message

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ends with an invitation for others who recognize

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that they've lost what they've lost to return

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and once again experience the joy of the gospel.

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And then there was a third example. It was from

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a sister who lived in the United States who was

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away from the church for some time. And I want

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to read her account word for word because it

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highlights that there are things that we can

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do for those that we love, those in our immediate

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circle, if they've stepped away or if they're

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just hanging on, for the perfect example of how

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guiding principles were used in this situation.

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I'm talking about guiding principles like we

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talked about in Elder Anderson's talk on cherishing

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life. I knew that when I was directed to the

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footnotes in that talk that they would become

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very important to me in many ways. And I thought

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it was awesome that it popped up in just this

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talk, just a couple down the line. Hey, you could

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use it here. Please reiterate that. So maybe

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you could read her testimony of how. of her coming

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back, and then I'll circle back to the guiding

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principles. Perfect. These are her words. I could

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list a myriad of reasons for why I walked away

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from the church, the gospel, and in a way my

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family, but they really don't matter. I didn't

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make one big decision to leave the church. I

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probably made a thousand choices. But one thing

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I've always known is that my parents did make

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one big decision, and they stuck to it. They

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decided to love me. I couldn't possibly know

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how many tears had been shed. How many sleepless

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nights, nor how many heartfelt pleading words

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of prayer have been uttered on my behalf. They

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didn't call me out on my sins. Rather, they called

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out to me in my sinfulness. They didn't make

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me feel unwelcome in their home and at gatherings

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for the family. Any of those feelings were of

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my own doing. Instead, they continued to welcome

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me. They must have seen my light dim over time,

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but they knew that the person I was then was

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just a shadow of who I was yet to become. Just

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as my path away from the church was complex,

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so was my way back. But one thing that was not

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hard about coming back was the feeling of being

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back home where I belong. That whole testimony

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was just full of examples of these guiding principles.

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To minister effectively, we're encouraged to

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begin with love. Every person deserves kindness,

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even if we don't fully understand their experiences.

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Then we listen with empathy. We avoid assumptions.

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We build trust through sincere interest. Teach

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true principles gently and with the Spirit's

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guidance to help others stay on the path to eternal

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joy. I just felt like her testimony was just

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full of that feeling that she just felt like

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her interactions, they were never one of like

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rebuke or chastisement, just love. Yeah. Encourage

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faith by helping others trust in God, understanding

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Christ's atonement, and seeking guidance through

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prayer and scripture study. I think in her situation,

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just demonstrating, you stay in the church, you

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continue to do the things that you're doing to

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foster your relationship with Jesus Christ. that's

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trying to distance themselves from it that's

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the best thing you can do rather than well you

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need to do this and you need to do that you do

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it for yourself and they're able to be eyewitness

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to what a life with jesus christ looks like instead

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of being told all these changes that they need

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to make that clearly they're not in a time it's

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not the time or place for that for them um seek

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guidance through prayer and scripture study ultimately

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loving action Attentive listening and spiritual

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sensitivity are key to meeting an individual's

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needs. Elder Palmer extends many invitations

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in this talk, but one that he extended here was

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to invite all those who have ever felt the Spirit

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and have stepped away from the Church who wonder,

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is there really a place for me back in the restored

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Church of Jesus Christ? It's also... for anyone

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who's barely hanging on who are tempted to step

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away. Very good. The answer to the question is

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yes, there's a place for you here. I like that

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she was very open and honest about it not being

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an easy path back, but it was a small and simple

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steps away. And so she wasn't, I don't think

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she was really unprepared for it to take the

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time and the effort, but what she had in the

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process was just love and understanding and acceptance

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the whole way along. And still being connected,

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right? If you don't have connection with a person,

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then that lowers the amount of love and everything

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else that you can give to them. So is this person

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you? Have you stepped away for some time and

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questioned whether there is a place to come back

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to you? If so, Abby and I join Elder Palmer in

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his invitation to you. It's an invitation extended

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with love and a sincere desire to welcome you

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back to your spiritual home. We pray that you

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will feel the witness of the Holy Ghost and also

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hear this loving invitation. I like that he just

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briefly paused there to say the words that I'm

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going to utter is out of love, not out of chastisement.

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So when he says that it's like, when are you

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going to come back to me? Repent! Be converted!

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You read it exactly perfectly. When will you

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return to me? I've been waiting for you, child.

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Come back. Giving him an opportunity to repent

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of their sins and be converted because he wants

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nothing more than to heal us from those things

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that are challenging us. People are often really

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loud and vocal on their way out. But we're reminded

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every week that many more are responding to the

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Savior's invitation by returning to discipleship

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and church activity. But usually they do that

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quietly, humbly. Seeking the healing that Jesus

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promises. This isn't the narrative that's circulated

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around social media. Right? Social media wants

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to think everybody's on their way out. When in

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reality, record numbers of young people are choosing

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to stay strong and to grow their faith in Jesus

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Christ. Absolutely, Abby. When those around us

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leave, it often causes us to reflect our own

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testimony and our why. For choosing the gospel.

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I know it has for me and it's strengthened it

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each time. Like, why do I stay? And it strengthens

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my resolve and also my relationship with Jesus

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Christ and with Heavenly Father. When Jesus taught

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a hard truth and some of his followers chose

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to leave, he asked, will ye also go away? I love

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Peter's response. He says, to whom shall we go?

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Thou hast the words of eternal life. Can we all

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take the opportunity to do the same as we witness

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others around us make the decision to leave?

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Can we look to the Savior and ask what can we

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do to become more rooted in his teachings? What

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message that is out there today offered more

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comfort, more peace in the gospel of Jesus Christ?

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If you too believe that there is nothing that

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comes close to offering more than the Savior

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already has, then please stay. He circles back

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here to the lesson from the willow tree. To summarize,

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he says, the return may be hard, but it's worth

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it. Like the willow tree, growth often begins

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with vulnerability and letting go of pride. I

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mean that. willow tree was not pretty when the

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pictures of it you're like oh yeah it's down

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yeah if you go to this imprint you'll see like

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a play -by -play of what that pruning process

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looked like for sure be patient faith and strength

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take time to rebuild just as the willow took

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years to regain its beauty and i love that the

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analogy was tied to a tree it's not quick pro

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a quick process that's true you don't really

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know what the root system looks like under a

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tree as that's re -establishing you know you

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use a flower It grows quickly. It dies quickly.

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We're talking about something that's got some

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sustainability. Nourish your faith consistently.

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Regular worship, taking the sacrament will sustain

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spiritual growth. I was in a talk from a friend.

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She was doing a mental health class. We had this

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conversation where sometimes maybe you're going

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through the motions when it comes to the sacrament

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or reading the scriptures or whatever it is.

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But all of those things, even if they lack emotion

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because of the mental state that you're in, Consistency

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in doing those faith -promoting activities one

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day will pay off. Staying sensitive to the Spirit

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like sunlight to a tree. The Spirit helps your

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testimony grow when you're open to its promptings.

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Again, putting yourself in a situation where

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there's a possibility for the Spirit to take

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hold is key. It doesn't happen the first time

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or the second time, but you keep doing it. Again

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and again, it's going to eventually sink deep.

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And then remember that God knows your potential.

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Just as the neighbor saw hope in the willow,

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the Lord never gives up on you and can heal all

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through Christ's atonement. Amy, let's go to

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your final thoughts, and then I'll wrap it up

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after that. I love this talk for a lot of reasons.

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It gives us a chance to reflect on where our

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own testimonies are, that when life's storms

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beat us up or beat upon us. Am I prepared with

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deep roots that I need to sustain the harsh winds?

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Another reason I love this talk is that many

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invitations are made in the hopes that people

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who are on the verge of collapse or who've been

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gone for a short time or even many years can

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hear that invitation. It was this talk that maybe

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definitely the wrong thing to say is if somebody

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comes back, where have you been? He said that

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part. Where have you been? He's passed, whatever.

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What would the Savior do? He'd see you. He'd

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maybe just embrace you in a hug. Words wouldn't

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really be necessary. Totally true. Glad to see

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you here. Yeah. You don't need to say the words.

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Whatever's kept you away. Love that he takes

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some of the principles that Elder Palmer summarized

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with love, encouraging those around us to know

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that the return might be difficult. Like I just

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said, there may be a couple of conversations,

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not that you need to tell everybody, but a few

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key conversations. It will be worth it, you coming

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back. And you will have the support and love.

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in the progress. Be patient with yourself as

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you're coming back. Be patient with others that

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are coming back. Share your faith with them,

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to the Spirit as it directs you with the things

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that you can do as you minister to these family

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and friends. And again, my heart goes out to

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anyone who's coming back for any amount of time.

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I know it's a hard thing to do. And sometimes

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you don't have the right words to say. And I

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pray that you will have peace and you will know

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that you are in the right place among friends,

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even if the words that they say might not be

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exactly what the Savior would say to you right

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then. Have patience and love. This talk is both

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an invitation to those who are on their way out

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or have been gone and to people that are in it

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currently and wanting to be in it more deeply

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rooted. He's, you know, both sides of that camp.

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There are jobs that we can do as members that

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are actively going right now. We have a responsibility

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to love as Jesus loved and to make a very well

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-inviting home. He referenced the church, you

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know, church home. Come back into our church

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home. If we see it in that way, what are we actively

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doing to help those around us? Are we making

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it easier for people to... tap into the atonement

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of Jesus Christ and come back or making it more

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difficult. Yeah. And again, the guiding principles.

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When I had this experience the other day, I was

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like, Amy, this would do well for you to learn

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and to have in your heart the guiding principles

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because they will be used every day. It literally

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is, when I say that, I mean like lead with love

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and, you know, use the scriptures, ask for the

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Holy Ghost, everything that we talked about.

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in this talk, if we have those in our heart,

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really all it's doing, like you could say guiding

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principles equal. a disciple of Christ. Yes,

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doing it in the Savior's way and maintaining

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these relationships that sometimes can be difficult

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because sometimes we don't know that when we're,

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you know, we don't get like a quick briefing

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before church or before a function with the Lord

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saying, you know, giving us a call and saying,

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hey, by the way, when you walk into church today,

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you are meeting people who are hanging on by

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a thread. When you speak, please take my spirit

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with you and speak to them with my love. That

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would be different. That was my first rhetorical

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question up at the top. Exactly. What if we assume

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that everybody was there hanging on by a thread?

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Not even that they don't, that they're struggling

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with the gospel principle. Life is just beating

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them down, which is really your scenario right

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now. Exactly. You can take that for so many months

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and years, but even the strongest can get beaten

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down by it. But what rebuilds from those people

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is even more beautiful, more deeply rooted. He

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mentioned that that tree was more beautiful after

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the whole incident than it would have been otherwise.

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Loved it. So I feel like what we're saying is

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to remember that the work and the glory of Jesus

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Christ is, or sorry, I said that poorly. Remember

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that it is the work and the glory of Jesus Christ

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to bring to pass the immortality and eternal

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life of men. He's our biggest cheerleader, and

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we can be extensions of that if we join with

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Him in the work to bring people to Jesus Christ.

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His testimony is what I'll finish up with. He

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said, I witness that there is rejoicing in heaven

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over those who return. You are needed. You are

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loved. I testify that Jesus Christ is our Savior

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and that He blesses all who return unto Him with

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greater peace and greater joy. His arms of mercy

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are not folded. They are open, extended to you.

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It is not too late for you to come back. With

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all of the love in our hearts, we welcome you

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home. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen. Thanks

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for being here, guys. See you next time.
