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Welcome to Closer to Christ through General Conference,

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent General

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Conference talks. This is Abbe and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Today we get to enjoy the talk,

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Draw Near Unto Me, by President Henry B. Eyring.

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Draw near unto me, and I will draw near unto

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you. Seek me diligently, and ye shall find me.

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Ask, and ye shall receive. Knock, and it shall

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be opened unto you. You know, there's times when

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we feel close to the Savior Jesus Christ, but

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during times of moral trials, we sometimes feel

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distracted or distanced from Him, and we wish

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for assurance that He knows what's in our hearts

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and loves us as individuals. When we went through

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this talk today, or in preparation for today,

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we get to hear how President Eyring shares how

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he has felt Christ near him in his life and ways

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that we can also feel that closeness and assurance

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from him. And he points out three ways that each

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of us can feel that assurance. Number one, drawn

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near him by always remembering him. Number two,

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seek him diligently through scripture study.

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And number three, as we care for others throughout

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our lives. Thanks, Abby. You know, in this talk,

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I was thinking about kind of the style of President

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Eyring and the way that he teaches. And I've

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always appreciated it. It has a very humble,

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gentle way about it. And I just really like it.

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I love that he shared this. He says, in my youth,

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I experienced the joy of coming closer to the

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Savior and of His coming closer to me through

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simple acts of obedience to the commandments.

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Simple acts of obedience to the commandments

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is what stuck in my mind. I really appreciate

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the way he reminds us. that when we are feeling

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a little distant from the Lord and are seeking

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to have him near us and to be near him, we hold

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the key to closing that gap. It doesn't necessarily

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mean we'll receive the immediate answers or blessings

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that we've been seeking. These are given in his

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own time. However, speaking from personal experience

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and testimony, it does mean that we will draw

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his spirit near and we will feel the assurance

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that he knows us and that he is aware of us.

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I love the words he talked about. President Eyring

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talked about when there used to be the block

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meeting and sacrament meeting was actually on

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a different date and it was at night. How long

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ago did he say it was like 75 years before he

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was reflecting on? I can still remember one specific

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night, it was Sunday, more than 75 years ago

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when it was dark and cold outside. I remember

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a feeling of light and warmth. as I realized

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that I had kept the commandment to gather with

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the saints to partake of the sacrament, covenanting

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with our Father in heaven, to always remember

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His Son and to keep His commandments. At the

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end of the meeting that night, we sang the hymn,

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Abide with Me Tis Eventide, with the memorable

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words, O Savior, stay this night with me. These

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words brought an overwhelming sense of the Spirit

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to me, even as a young boy. I felt the Savior's

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love and closeness that evening. through the

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comfort of the Holy Ghost. Abby, I remember on

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my mission, we sang this song sometimes as we

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leave a home where we've been teaching a message

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of Jesus Christ in the evening. And as we acted

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on his invitation to remember him, this song

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always brought, regardless of how well we sang

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it, it always brought a spirit of peace and love

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and Christ's awareness of us huddled at a doorway

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in Italy as we gathered in his name. I know on

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missions, it's not like the first time people

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have heard of Jesus Christ when we share that

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message. Sometimes it is, but that's tender.

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Just to think about, you know, when they're feeling

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the Spirit maybe in a different way for the first

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time or more magnified that you can leave, but

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you can have like that hope for blessing upon

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their homes, that Spirit will still abide so

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that they can recognize it's much different.

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If they want it, right? Like it can stay. If

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they want to hold on to that feeling. Um, president

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Ivory shared his second invitation. What he said

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was years later, he wanted to rekindle that same

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feeling of the Savior's love. What's cool is

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when you've had it once and then you can reflect

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back on it and feel that feeling again. I want

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that again. Yeah. Um, he wanted to rekindle the

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same feeling of the Savior's love and the closeness

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I had felt to the Lord during that sacrament

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meeting in my youth. So I kept another simple

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commandment. I searched the scriptures in the

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book of Luke. I read on the third day after his

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crucifixion in burial. when faithful servants

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had come out of love for the Savior to anoint

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his body, and when they arrived they found the

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stone rolled away from the tomb and saw that

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his body was not there. Two angels stood by and

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asked why they were afraid. Why seek ye the living

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among the dead? He is not here, but is risen.

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Remember how he spake unto you when he was yet

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in Galilee, saying, The Son of Man must be delivered

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to the hands of sinful men and be crucified,

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and the third day rise again. He then read the

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story of two disciples walking on the road. of

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Emmaus. Jesus walked with them, but they did

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not recognize who he was. They told him of their

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sadness that Jesus had died when they had trusted

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that he would be the Redeemer of Israel. There

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must have been affection in the risen Lord's

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voice as he spoke to these two sorrowful and

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mourning disciples. And then President Irene

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goes on to share his personal experiences as

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he studied the scriptures. As I continued to

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read, there came these words that warmed my heart

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just as I had felt when I was a little boy. And

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I drew nigh unto the village, whither they went,

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and he made as though he would have gone further.

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But they constrained him, saying, Abide with

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us, for it is toward evening, and the day is

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far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.

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And again, shared, the Saviour accepted that

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night the invitation to enter the house of his

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disciples. He sat at meet with them. He took

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bread, blessed it, broke it, and gave it to them.

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This point is where their eyes were opened, and

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they knew him. had to have had a different appearance.

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It said in the scripture that he made himself

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not recognizable. Physically. He doesn't want

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to be recognized physically. He wants you to

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spiritually know that he's there for us. Anyway,

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their eyes were open and they knew him. Love

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it. Agreed, Abby. As we hear these words of the

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two disciples, maybe we could ask ourselves.

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When is a time most recently that I felt my heart

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burn within as I learned of Christ or when the

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scriptures were open to me through the Holy Ghost?

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And after this, Abby, we're going to jump into

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his third invitation to come closer to Christ.

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President Irene teaches just as his beloved disciples,

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every child of Heavenly Father who has chosen

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to enter through the gates of baptism is under

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covenant to be a witness of the Savior and to

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care for those in need throughout our mortal

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lives. These are the words that Alma shared at

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the waters of baptism. So I love this scripture.

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Another action item here, how am I doing at morning

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with those who mourn? And I feel like a good

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question is, do I know how to hold space for

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someone who might not have immediate resolution

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or answers? It's unique. Like if you think you're

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a good baker, you might be like, oh, I should

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take him treats. But really what you're saying

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there is that if you If that's not their love

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language, treats isn't their love language just

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because it's what you're good at, but you ask

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to step in and be able to help mourn with those

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that mourn, comfort those that need comfort.

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acquire a different skill set that you didn't

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know that you have because you had a desire to

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reach out and help them. That's so good. And

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you know, I used to, like you were saying, Abby,

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you're kind of go to, too, is what you know,

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right? Your love language is the first thing

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you think of. Yeah. But it's not always the thing

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the person needs. It's true. It's true. And so

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like I used to want to step in and help others

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to have a smile on their face and peace in their

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heart. Because if I had not left them happier,

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Was I even any help at all? That's kind of how

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I felt through my challenges, through challenges

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of my own, through many, many years and decades.

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I feel like the Lord has helped me to see that

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I had misunderstood. My baptismal covenant was

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never to bring immediate happiness or offer my

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suggestions or help in ways that had helped me.

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Right. Like you were saying it was to pray for

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the Holy Ghost first and foremost and to offer

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comfort in the way of maybe no words at all.

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Food is usually helpful. Sitting with someone

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is helpful and listening is usually helpful.

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It's okay. This is how I'm feeling now in my

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stewardship, you could call it, or in my discipleship

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as far as this commandment goes. It is okay to

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leave someone who is still in the middle of their

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story as long as they know you are in it with

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them. As they struggle through it and they know

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that you are an ally and a friend in this, you

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are doing your part in mourning with those who

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mourn. That takes a little different turn on

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it, that it's okay to be sad with them while

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they're sad, not feel the burden of trying to

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bring happiness. You can bring joy, different

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than happiness, right? I mean, we agree that's

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a different thing. You can be joyful knowing

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that the outcome will eventually come, but that's

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not maybe going to happen in that moment. And

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that's okay. That wasn't your job. Your job was

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to just be there for them. So I really appreciate

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you for sharing that, Amy. I really loved his

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promise to all who serve others here. He said,

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anything in this conference. President Irene

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Gadreff loved ones who have stepped off the covenant

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path. He did that on the last one too. I feel

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like this is a subject that's close to his heart

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and he's saying like, I've wrestled with it.

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He's turned his life over to the Lord. He's been

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in the service of others. He's pointing out even

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with all of those things, if he could choose,

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if he could choose Satan's way, he would force

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everybody to, you know, be on the covenant path,

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everybody with him on the path that he's on.

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But it's something that he's reflecting on more

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to say, you can do all the quote unquote right

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things, and still there's going to be people

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that are choosing a different way. But I know

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from hearing his words, I know how he talks about

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these family members. He has nothing but love

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for them. He prays for them in his own way, but

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it's not like to rebuke and be like, you got

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to get back here. I think he's so confident in

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the plan that he knows it's going to work out.

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And what he has control over is himself and he

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continues to do that. So he'd be a great grandpa

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to have. Did I read this quote from him? I don't

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think I did. I want to read it. This stood out.

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I really want to read it. It said, For in me

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there is all power." I think this is the perfect

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way to demonstrate saying the right thing or

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not saying anything at all, depending on what

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the Spirit prompts, but just a simple prayer

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to surround your loved ones with His love. That's

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amazing. Sometimes his love may come in the form

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of a neighbor that with no ulterior motive that

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they're just serving and having these tender

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experiences with your family members that maybe

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you have less daily interactions with. Just think

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of all of the people. When you watch people's

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stories that they come back and they share their

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experiences with you, there are so many people

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that are placed in their ways and I think in

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that way you could say that. That's what it looks

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like, just having the Savior surround them. He

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encourages people different opportunities to

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serve these ones that you're praying over. It's

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true, to serve and to gain experience. Sometimes

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you learn, oh, that didn't work as well, or I

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had a kind of a slight feeling, but I wasn't

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sure it was the Spirit, and now I'm pretty sure

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it was. Do you know what I mean? And was the

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thing that you did, was it positive in any way?

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Because if it was, then it was the Spirit, it

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was the Lord, it was a good thing. It was Him.

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Abby, another thing, it's so interesting. This

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happened this week. I don't know if anyone else

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has had this conversation with family members

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or a spouse or whoever. My husband and I were

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talking and someone had sent to us a talk that

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has been years ago by Elder Oaks and now President

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Oaks. He was talking about different ways that

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he came to know the Lord and also different ways

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that he approached the Lord and When my husband

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was talking about he said, you know Sometimes

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when I hear those words it sort of feels like

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and I'm putting these words into his mouth It

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was I'm gonna give you the crux of it how you

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felt about yes Kind of what my husband was saying

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was I feel like when I hear these words I feel

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like he that someone's putting the Savior in

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a box and that this is the way he is and it's

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fixed And I was like that's so interesting that

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you're saying that And then I had, as we were

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talking, I felt like the spirit taught me something

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or brought something to my remembrance of why

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I love conference. This is why I love it. Yes,

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100 % what President Oaks, now President Oaks,

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was saying in his talk was, number one, he was

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speaking from his own personal experience. We

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only have our own personal experience. We only

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have our own personal testimony with the divinity

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of Jesus Christ and with the divinity of Heavenly

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Father and their nature. And so that is what

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we share. And as we share that, as President

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Oaks shared this, the Holy Ghost bore witness

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to the truthfulness of that thing. So this is

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the part I love. um every single person that

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speaks in conference um it's kind of like they

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are bringing their own views their own lenses

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their experience their profession the experiences

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they've had with um They're usually pretty intense

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or pretty memorable experiences that they've

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had on how they've come to know Jesus Christ

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and His divinity as our savior, as our redeemer,

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as our healer. And so this is kind of what it

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was like to me. Have you ever heard the story

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about when it talks about, I don't know if they're

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blind people or what it was, people who were

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Um, not seeing, but they were holding on to different

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parts of an elephant and each person described,

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you know, what the trunk was like, what the foot

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was like, what the tail, what the ear, all of

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them were right. And so I feel like this is.

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in a way very dumbed down, but very similar to

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the way I feel about conference is that every

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single person is giving me their sure witness,

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their experience, their testimony that is born

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to my heart, to the Holy Ghost of the truth of

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what they are talking about, of their experience.

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And that's what I love about it is it brings

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a whole more whole understanding of what the

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divinity of Jesus Christ is. I don't believe

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and maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'll be proved wrong

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later or I just haven't had this experience yet.

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But in my mind, in my finite mortal human mind,

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it seems to me that it would almost be impossible

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for every one of us or for one person to have

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a complete understanding of everything that God

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is. Right? I mean, we don't have the capacity.

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We are mortals, mere mortals. So I love that

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he gives all these different people. And in one

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way, he gives 15 men who guide and direct us

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very special witnesses. And I take every single

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one of theirs, whether it's President Oaks, who

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is very direct, who is an attorney, who sees

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things as law, or whether it's President Eyring,

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who teaches me with his heart and his love. I

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feel like they all. have a portion of Jesus Christ

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Spirit with them and they get to tell us about

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what they know and what they've experienced and

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we get to feel of this, again, wholeness and

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perfect, perfect person that is Jesus Christ

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and that is Heavenly Father. That's why I love

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conferences because I get a more perfect and

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whole understanding of just how grand and how

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awe -inspiring He is. So, that's what came to

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my mind as we talked about, you know, different

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talks that we hear is I feel like it is 100 %

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a portion of truth. That's really it. I just

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love President Eyring and I love the way that

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he teaches. It touches my heart. The talk that

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came to my mind was Dushku's Pillars and Rays

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a couple sessions back and, you know, he started

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talking about little things that were rays of

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his testimony and I would say... those weren't

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my rays, but the way that he said it made me

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recollect what my rays were to come together

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to make this pillar. So just to play off of that

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feeling, the feelings that I'm having about that

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talk as you're talking, I'm thinking, yeah, one

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line and sometimes one line in a conference talk

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of all others stand out and something's brought

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to my remembrance. That's how the savior reached

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me. That's how I feel about the savior. And you

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accumulate that from 30 something different talks

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in a session. and you get a more clear picture.

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I love the idea of reflecting back on the things

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that he's done for us individually, and it's

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our responsibility to testify. You know, as we've

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been touched by the Savior in our lives, we're

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encouraged to share those things. More likely

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than not, when you testify of the Savior, you've

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brought his name into it. So there's going to

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be power present. But it's not that you're expecting

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that the person you're talking to is going to

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experience the same experience as you it's that

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Somewhere in the recess of their mind if they're

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if they're struggling in that moment That's something

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that you're saying the spirits involved in the

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equation. You've brought the name of Jesus Christ

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into the conversation They're going to recall

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those things that their testimony is centered

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around and then grow on it from there, too So

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one of those things I mean, this is as we study

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the foolish and wise versions, it's like you

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can share your light, you can't share your oil,

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but sharing your light gives them an opportunity

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to start reserving their own oil. Something to

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that, just. For sure. Great talk. An invitation.

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He's so sweet, he's so tender. This is one that

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is so easy to listen to. And just like, everything's

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going to be just fine. It is, it totally is.

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What did he say? What did he say when the Teton

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Dam broke? Like that's what he said to his wife,

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she was going to ... She's like, what are you

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sleeping? How are you sleeping? Everything's

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going to be fine. Because of our covenants. I

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mean, think about how young he was when he said

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that. He's really carried that mentality the

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whole passing time. So obviously it's coming

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to play now. It's not his own children that he's...

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has to worry about whether they made it through

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the flood or not. It's his children's children's

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children. I mean lots of generations that we're

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talking about and you can worry about it or you

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can continue to do what we can do and that is

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to draw closer to Jesus Christ, invite him to

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draw close to these loved ones and stay in your

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own covenant. I'm going to close with his testimony.

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I am a witness of the resurrection of the Lord

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as surely as if I had been there with the two

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disciples in the house on Emmaus Road. I know

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that he lives. This is his true church. the Church

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of Jesus Christ. We will, on that day of judgment,

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stand before the Savior face to face. It will

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be a time of great joy for those in this life

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who have drawn close to Him in His service and

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can eagerly anticipate to hear His words, Well

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done, thou good and faithful servant. Thank you

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so much for being with us. We'll see you next

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time. Thanks for tuning in.
