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Welcome to Closer to Christ through General Conference,

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent General

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Conference talks. This is Abbey and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Welcome. Today we are talking about

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My Love for the Savior is My Why by Elder Ricardo

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Jimenez of The Seventy. What motivates you to

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do the things you do? Responsibility, obligation,

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expectations, money, fear, or letting someone

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down. He talks about how our dear prophet, Russell

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M. Nelson, continuously extends invitations to

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us, as does the Savior. Do you hear the invitations

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when they come? Sometimes they feel subtle. Sometimes

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they are front and center. I can attest to that.

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You know when the Spirit is speaking to you,

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right? One such invitation was him inviting us

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to study and ponder the messages shared at the

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last two conferences. In April 2024, he said,

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I hope you'll repeatedly study these messages

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of this conference throughout the coming months.

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Then in October 24, he said, I urge you to study

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the speaker's messages. Use them as a litmus

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test of what is true and what is not during the

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next six months. We've heard this before, right

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Abby? Yeah, I can't tell you how much those invitations

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excited me because I was like, we've done this

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actually. I was so proud. Doing this, doing as

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he's asked, reflecting on the conference talks

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past just the weekend that they're delivered

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has changed me, helped me through difficult times.

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And more than any other time in my life, these

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last couple conference sessions in particular,

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you and I have put in the effort to make. make

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more out of conference than just a wonderful

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conference weekend. And we get to track who's

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tuning in and we have friends across the world

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that are joining us weekly to do the same thing.

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So we share some thoughts. I'm going to share

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a thought from a review that we got. People are

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welcome to leave reviews. It does help us to

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be seen. a friend of Amy's messaged her the other

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day and I kind of took an excerpt out of that.

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The friend said, even though I'm not talking

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with you, I love to see what stands out to you.

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I just listened to your podcast, Simple Teachings

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of the Doctrine of Christ. I've listened to it

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a couple of times and the Spirit was teaching

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me things besides listening to you guys. And

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that's my favorite part. We know that what we're

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saying, it's just... It's commentary on an already

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great talk. We always recommend that the talk

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itself is really where you go to, and hopefully

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it's sometime right before or right after you

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listen to the podcast that you're hearing it

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right from their words. But we know more important

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than anything we're saying is what the spirit

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touches and impresses you with, how it's going

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to deepen your own understanding, how it's going

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to give you the direction that you need. that's

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more exciting than anything we could ever explain.

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Or just most pertinent, right? I love that, Abby.

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We often pour our action items. We go over our

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action items and we hear in the conference talk,

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but we also love when you hear a different message

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or take a different direction. As Elder Jimenez

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explained, we may feel or think these invitations

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are another thing we need to add to our to -do

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lists, simply because we are invited or asked

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to do it. But could there be more to it? we've

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mentioned in another podcast, but sometimes things

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bear repeating. What we've learned about invitations

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and action items is that when the spirit prompts

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a person to do something specific, it's because,

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you know, you've grown to a certain point and

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you're ready to hear and learn in a certain way

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when the invitation's made and you decide to

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pick it up. It's because you're ready for that.

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Sometimes there might be an invitation, you're

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like, it just goes in one and out the other,

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but there's maybe a few other steps that you

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could do before you hit that action item to grow

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in the best way possible for you. So if an invitation

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is heard in the right place, in the right time,

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the Spirit can teach us something with that.

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That's the direction that we are looking for.

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There were 32 talks in this conference. The way

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that we read them, I see two to three action

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items in every talk. So if conference was just

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a list of to -do items that we were adding to,

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we'd have somewhere between 64 and 96 things

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to do after every conference. Yeah. If you look

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at it that way, that's a lot. It's overwhelming,

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right? Right. And he's asking a rhetorical question,

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is that the best way to do things? We believe

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that there is a much better way to look at it.

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Yes. The best way to go about deciding what you

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want to do with your life is to consider the

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why. And if the why is because of Jesus Christ

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and our love for Him, this is the real and most

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powerful reason why we do what we do. I would

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also say that when we listen to like Abby, when

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you gave us the numbers of 64 to 96 things, that's

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a lot to... Someone's looking at their plate

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and they're like, it's already full. How am I

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going to fit that in? And like most of us, if

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it's overwhelming, the whole thing is overwhelming

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rather than assuming that it's going to be a

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bite at a time. Sometimes you just walk away

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from the invitation because you're like, if I'm

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not going to do it all, the Midas will not do

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any of it. Yeah. And one thing that I've learned

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through my years is that the Lord is really good

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at helping me to filter through and say this

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one thing, you can get really good at it or you

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can do this thing because it's the time in my

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life to do it the season in my life to do it

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and because you have that um the draw or the

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pull um, from our father in heaven or Jesus Christ.

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And you also have the Holy Ghost witnessing that

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to your heart. I am a hundred percent fine, Abby,

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to just let go of the 64 to 96 and focus on that

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one or two things for six months. I'm more than

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happy with that. So I am now too. Yeah. And it's

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a beautiful thing. I thought that's a gift. Or

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I think I probably would have been more like,

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man, it's overwhelming to do. Right. It's just

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too much. Yeah. So I feel like that's a gift

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that the Lord gives to those who come to Him

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and say, Hey, what is for me right now? into

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lists that we're maybe coming up with, you could

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say good, better and best. So are all of the

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things that we could be doing great? Yes. But

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if we try to take on too many and we overload

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ourselves, then all of a sudden, the best things

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are barely even good for us anymore. Yeah, I

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love that Abby. And also you did mention, you

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take it to prayer as to like, I've heard all

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of these suggestions, maybe what is the thing

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that I should be focusing on the most? And he

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helps you see. through his eyes, the capacity

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that you have to do something. And it may seem

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overwhelming, but all I see in that is that he's

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saying, you came to me for this, I'll work with

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you to achieve that thing. It's okay if it feels

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a little bit overwhelming, but you asked and

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I suggested this is the thing that would be the

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best. the best effort could be put into this

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right now. Absolutely. So I love that. Also,

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he sees exactly where we are right now and how

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old our kids are. So for example, right now I

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have a son who's leaving on a mission. Would

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it not be in my best interest to give like prayerfully

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go to the Lord and say, what is the best use

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of my time right now in these next two months

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or one month now before he leaves? It's going

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to hit different, Abby, than when he was seven

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and there was random stuff going on, right? So

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the Lord knows these things, and I love that.

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Elder Jimenez's invitation to each of us as we

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listen and ponder on this talk is this. I hope

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you will consider my words as a sincere invitation

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to seek to understand the opportunity to link

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everything we do. with our love for the Savior.

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Doing this will help us understand the real why

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behind everything we do as disciples of the Savior.

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And I would say the real why, too, to ask Heavenly

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Father, again, what is the best use of my time

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and what will bring the biggest impact? This

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will help us strengthen our covenantal connection

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with God, understanding His divine and eternal

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truths, His eternal and absolute truths that

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will never change. Eternal truths, for example,

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for God so loved the world that He gave His only

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begotten Son. that whosoever believeth in him

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should not perish but have everlasting life.

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I love that and I think that's such a good question

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that it is one that should come up more often

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than not when you ask you know what what's needful

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of this time that I have right now is a good

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question to ask and in a month or two as you

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make those adjustments and done it that you're

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not just like well he already gave me the answer

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about that. things have changed. The situation

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in front of you has changed. Nothing wrong with

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circling back to that question. Now what is most

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needful? Have I finished the thing that you told

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me to work on? Are we ready for the next layer?

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Have I not quite got it? So it's a question worth

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repeating. Sometimes we get in routines with

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life. We do this so well because we've done them

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so many times before. there is a chance of that

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becoming like monotonous. It's a task that we

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lose sight of the why. Maybe when I said that,

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you were thinking of how your scripture study

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looks. It's important that we read a chapter.

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No, the way I want to say that is sometimes we

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say, this is so important, I have to read a chapter

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a day. But why? Am I trying to learn more of

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my Savior? Am I trying to see what areas I can

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improve in? Am I pondering a question? Is it

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more important to say we're going to do specific

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things, or is it a better way to look at it that

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you say, I'm turning to the scriptures with this

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time that I have, help me learn what I need to

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about the Savior? Kind of go into it to break

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up the monotony that definitely can exist. Yeah,

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you got your morning and your night prayers,

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check a box. Or did we take time to commune with

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Father, ask him questions, listen, have a conversation?

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reflect on that at some point during the day.

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Those look a little bit differently, right? Absolutely.

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So I've reevaluated some goals I've had for myself.

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When I feel like it has a checkbox component

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to it, that I've done it, then I try to step

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back and I say, that's my personality is to like

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checkboxes. I like things clean and tidy, but

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that's not when I grow. That's not when I get

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the most out of what he's suggesting that I do.

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And so it's just an opportunity to look at it

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again and see. How is this going to draw me closer

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to the father? And then because I've turned to

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the father, learn more about his son. I think

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the why behind church assignments, temple attendance,

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service in our community, all of those are such

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good things. But if we come back to the why,

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it's not just like, well, they said go to the

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temple as often as possible. What does that mean?

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Once a month, once a week, once a day, you know,

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if we put it into that category of like, I heard

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it, they said to do it and I'm checking that

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off. I do believe that there is less value in

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that than just to say, you know, Father, help

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me to recognize the time when, you know, when

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I can make time for the temple. My schedule looks

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crazy and I can't really see a way for it, but

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I put it to him, like, if there's an opportunity

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here, like, let me know so that I can seize it.

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Then it's like, all of a sudden a thought comes

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to my mind, like, should go to the temple. And

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I kind of look through the day, I'm like, yeah,

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I actually have a minute here. And I do it. It's

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so great. But if your life is feeling a little

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bit stressed out and you have to be a checkbox

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person for a time till you get to that point,

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that's great. I'm not trying to diminish that.

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I'm just saying there are a few of these components

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in my life that I'm seeing the value that's come

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from asking the why. I haven't really thought

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of it as asking the why, but It's always nice

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to know why you're doing the things that you

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do. Is it for the praise of man? Like am I doing

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that service project because I really want the

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world to be like, man, that was so good that

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you did that. Or because I've experienced the

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blessings that have come to myself, to my children

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as we have helped them participate in service

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activities. And I like to think it's the second

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reason for us. I don't say his name as good as

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you, so I'm calling him. He posed a question.

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I tweaked it a little bit, but the way that I

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wrote the question out is what impact on our

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covenantal connection with the Savior do the

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things that we do have? Love that. We get comfortable

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making lists and checking items, like you said,

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off that list when they're important things.

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And we know that we want to get them done. We

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find joy in being the type of just being the

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type to accomplish things. Some seasons of our

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lives we are just trying to get by so much that

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the lists and checking marks are the only way

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that anything really gets done and the only way

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we can feel good about ourselves. When we understand

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the why behind the things we do, we enter into

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the spiritual sphere and we have the opportunity

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to go beyond just doing the things or achieving

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goals by understanding the why again. Here's

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a direct quote about that. He said, if we can

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understand and connect the reason behind our

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actions, how it relates to our love for the Savior

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and our Heavenly Father by taking advantage of

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these opportunities, we will understand that

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even though doing righteous things like having

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church activities or traditions and appropriately

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doing them is a good thing, when we connect them

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with the why, we will be blessed to understand

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the reason. It won't be just doing things or

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doing them right. get them right. Love that.

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That doesn't mean they go perfectly. It means

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that we knew the why. Eventually we get it right.

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Yeah. I think we're less concerned about exactly

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how they get executed in the heart of the reason

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we were doing it for our savior. There's time

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for practice. Yeah. Different church callings

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and things that I've been like, well, that didn't

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really go like I planned. Well, did it bring

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someone closer to the savior? Still a win, right?

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It's a good point. How different do the tasks

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we take on become when we make the Savior our

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focus of our lives? Is the goal to read scriptures,

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say prayer, prepare and execute activities like

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you were just saying, Abby, for the family or

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the ward, or are they the actions to achieve

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the true goal, which is connecting yourself or

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those in your circle of influence to the Savior.

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Like it's interesting, you know, like if I went

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to the Lord and said, Heavenly Father, spiritually,

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what's the best thing I could do right now with

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my son? I would say that reminding him that the

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Lord is his why of going on a mission and just

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filling him as much as I can with my testimony

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of the Savior and how he really is at the center

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of everything we do. He's the purpose of everything.

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He's the reason we can have healing in our life.

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He's the reason we can have joy and hope and

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why the reason or he's the reason that the people

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that he's going to find and teach or find and

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just buoy up is just to put more Jesus into their

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lives. And if I'm being honest, if I think back

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of, you know, I said, you know, maybe what might

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not have been as impactful as when he was seven,

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if the Lord is my focus, then it's just as impactful

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as when he was seven at his level to be talking

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to him about how much Jesus loves him, knows

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him, and will walk with him in his hard times.

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Now, I was more talking about the type of things

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like remember to get the flag or remember to

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take family pictures. Right now, like I'm in

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a season of my health has been a big concern.

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It's been taking up a lot of time. So I've really

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appreciated the spirit reminding me, literally

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reminded me, oh, yeah, he has to have his suit

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before you take family pictures so you can take

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small things like that. Like that was not on

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my, on my mind. My mind was make sure I call

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this doctor and do this and this so that everything

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aligns. Again, my point is no matter what you're

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going through right now, the spirit will help

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you through and know what is most important for

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you to do right now. I will say because the opportunities

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presented itself as we've taught mission prep

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for many years now, we always want to reiterate

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time and time again that the purpose of a mission

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is not to baptize people. and have these numbers.

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I know we keep track, we're record -keeping people,

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but the purpose of a missionary is to bring or

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invite people to come closer to Jesus Christ.

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You might be one of the people that gains a stronger,

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firmer testimony of our Savior, and you may contact

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somebody 20 times, and yeah, they don't enter

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the waters of baptism, but if you can say that

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your encounters with them, your experiences with

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them, you were able to bring them closer to your

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Savior, you were successful. And that's achievable.

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You can't decide what they do with the knowledge

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that they have of the Savior, or that they're

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really going to listen. But again, you testifying

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in a multitude of ways, time and time again,

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it's going to strengthen your own testimony.

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I totally agree. You can't help it. It says,

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is the purpose merely to hold an activity because

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we have done it for many years and then check

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the box that we have? completed it? Or once again,

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are these the means we use to learn to feel and

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to connect with the Savior? Good question. I

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feel like he kind of worried that his words were

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going to make us feel bad if we find that looking

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back, we're in that monotony of life and going

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through the motions and doing things that we

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do with little to no thought. I think what he's

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actually saying is it's a great place to start.

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Get in the habit of doing the little things,

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and then once it's a habit, consider these tasks

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that we're doing. and look for the opportunity

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to dig in to the spiritual blessings that are

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available to us as we recognize what we do on

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a daily or weekly or monthly basis. Are we doing

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it because we love the Savior and He loves us?

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I don't think Father's sitting there waiting

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around to punish us because we aren't doing things

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exactly right or we didn't check that box, but

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He is prepared to bless us more fully when we

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recognize that the whole point was to draw closer

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to the Son through the things we do and therefore

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closer to Him also. What a neat practice to look

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over the things that stand in front of you and

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say, am I going to do this thing just to get

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it done versus how would it look to see the same

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task with open hearts and minds to the opportunity

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and the blessings of coming closer to the Savior

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after the task. I love that. He reminded us of

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President Dallin H. Oaks on behalf of the First

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Presidency, inviting us to make our Easter traditions

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Christ -centered. So, he brings it back because

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he's like, I don't want to negate these traditions

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and these habits that we have for ourselves.

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I'm just asking you to, so I would say I wasn't

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like the greatest at like setting Easter traditions.

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And now I've gotten better at kind of planning

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that in advance, making Easter look a little

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more special. And I have to kind of schedule

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time into the crazy weeks that we have, like,

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how are we going to achieve that? but reminded

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in this talk in so many ways that those traditions

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will become most valuable and important being

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Christ -centered if I do stop and remember, that's

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the why. It's for that, not just all I can say,

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well, He asked us to make Easter more important,

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so I made a list of these 15 things that I would

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achieve. I would say we had big intentions of

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certain things we wanted to do. We didn't necessarily

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achieve all of those things, but when I look

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back on the week, it was one of the best that

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we've experienced. like mission accomplished.

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And effort well, I feel like effort well received

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on the part. Yeah. The Lord received that effort.

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Let me quote what President Oaks just said, just

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so people can remember, he said, as we enter

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this new year, let us prepare for an Easter celebration

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of the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ. No

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matter what others believe or do, we should celebrate

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the resurrection of our living Savior by studying

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His teachings, helping to establish Easter traditions

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in our society as a whole, especially within

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our own families. As you see, it is not just

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an invitation to have traditions. Instead, we

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use these traditions as a means to learn more

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about the Savior and remember His resurrection.

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Amy, you spent time preparing for that invitation

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to elevate your Easter traditions. Are you comfortable

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reflecting back on maybe any changes that you

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noticed to your week? Well, I'll say it again.

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I feel like every year my family looks a little

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bit different. And this year, Holy Week looked

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a little bit different. I went into it with already

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being, I think I was sick for almost two months

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at this point. And there was a lot of things

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I needed to change about my diet because it was

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making me really, really sick. That's kind of

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hard when you're looking at like a meal for the

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family or whatever well And when my traditions

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always center around food well because the Passover

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meal I wanted to do right yeah for sure and then

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the dinner on Sunday I wanted to do that so yeah,

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it was a little bit. I definitely put more thought

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into it I actually put more prayer into the food

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than I ever have before because I needed to just

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I wasn't in that mode of life right then. So

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yes, it looked different. Number two, yes, I

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still involved the Lord in my planning. And I

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would say that with what I was able to put together

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with the Lord's help, that even though it wasn't

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as much as what I've done in years past, I feel

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like the Lord totally consecrated my efforts

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and was like, well done with where you are right

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now, Amy. It's not going to look the same as

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other years. And that's okay because you gave

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your full heart. And I take that. That made me

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feel good. If I was judging it by other years,

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I'd be like, oh, two thumbs down. That was lousy,

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Amy. And I might've gotten stuck in that. But

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if I look at where the Lord was, he was like,

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I don't look at that. I look at, did you give

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me your whole heart? And it was a yes. So it's

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okay if it didn't look like it was quote supposed

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to. And we've talked a few times in this about,

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you know, the checkbox, like, yeah, it can be

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a checkbox thing. If that's what you're able

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to do, that's just fine. But that it's like a

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spiritual component to the blessings of these

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things that we're doing that really tap in. Why

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don't you say that that's exactly what you got?

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You got confirmation that it was enough. You

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did enough. And you were Christ -centered the

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whole time. Right. And I would also say that

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something I would very happily wish away, which

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is my health issues for the past few months,

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when I just listened to myself say what I said,

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my whole life really. But yeah, it's been very

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intense the past three months. When I say that,

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the Spirit testified to my heart that the Lord

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gives us these weaknesses. so that we can turn

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to Him and acknowledge our lacking and whenever

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we choose to yoke with Him, it's going to be

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the best for our spiritual progression. So I

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think that's another thing to remember is that

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the Savior is always focused on what is best

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for us spiritually and eternally in the long

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run. And maybe it's not having a perfect dinner,

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but it is interning to Him with the whole family

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and bringing our hearts closer to Him. There's

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a quote in the talk. And I love it, Abby. The

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more we connect the reason with our love for

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the Savior, the more we will be able to receive

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what we need or are seeking. So that's a great

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way he said it. President Nelson said, whatever

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questions or problems you have, the answer is

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always found in the life and teachings of Jesus

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Christ. And then he extended this invitation

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to each of us. Learn more about his atonement.

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his love, his mercy, his doctrine, his restored

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gospel of healing and progression. Turn to him,

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follow him. So I feel like I just gave a testimony

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of what he just said. If we allow our trials

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and just the things that happen in our lives

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to soften our heart and to turn to him, we are

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going to be better for it. You've pondered on

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this. You've testified of this. I think it's

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a good invitation to share with our audience,

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to ponder this in your own hearts and minds.

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Do you believe President Nelson's invitation

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had the intention of helping us to prepare a

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checklist where we will accumulate more knowledge

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and complete tasks so that we can check off his

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invitation from our to -do lists? Or is he inviting

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us to consider the aspects of these eternal truths

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and principles as an opportunity to understand

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the why, connect with the Savior's covenant to

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love, and for us, to become lifelong disciples

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in this journey? Kind of a rhetorical question.

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The answer is yes. So I went back to the beginning

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thinking, is it our job to just say, oh, another

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conference is coming up. I need to really quickly

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go through the talks and listen to them one more

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time in preparation for, so you put it on like

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two and a half speed and you just blast through

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the last conference session. Compare that to

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maybe spending a little bit of time each week

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pondering a particular talk. Depending on what

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circumstances are going on in your life, you're

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hearing different things, different things are

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standing out, the spirit's teaching you, and

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you're encouraged to make some change. If you

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contrast those very two different ways of looking

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at how we can get the most out of conference,

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it illustrates the principle that they're trying

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to convey. One option is... Um, it's kind of

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extreme, you know, probably we're not blasting

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through it in a day to get ready for it, but

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trying to exaggerate it to say what happens when

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we say, yeah, I've checked that box. I listened

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to conference. I listened to it again as they

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suggested, but it was in such a quick fashion

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with little to no thought. And when you're done,

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you certainly can check the box that you did

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the assignment, but What happens to a person

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when they do take him more of a bite -size approach?

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Listen check in let the spirit touch you Find

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something that it's suggesting you do from the

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talk that the spirit tells you yeah That's the

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thing you're gonna grasp on to take some time

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to make those adjustments and do them You can

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see those are very different scenarios of what

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can be done with conference I would say to Abby

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that if you do take the time and the effort to

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blast through it at two and a half and you listen

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right before you're gonna get like for as long

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as you're listening to conference, you have the

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Holy Ghost's ear, or what is it? You have access

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to the Holy Ghost and he can bless you in those

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ways. However, if you, like you said, are going

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throughout it every week and putting time into

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it, it's a slower way and there is much more

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time that the Lord and the Holy Ghost can speak

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to your heart. So I do believe that whatever

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effort you put in - It can be diffused more slowly,

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more gently. And over time, you need to like

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learn and live it and then like it becomes part

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of your life more. Do you know what I mean? I'm

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speaking from experience. I know I have definitely

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been like, Oh my goodness, conferences in a couple

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of weeks. And so I, you know, use those two weeks

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of time to say, yeah, I got to the conference

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talks. I have been that so I can speak from experience

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and saying, if I hear things that are suggestions

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of things that need to be done, it's kind of

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unfortunate because rather than having spent

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the last six months on it. the spirit's pricking

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me like you could have worked on that thing.

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Yeah, or maybe next time we're gonna do better,

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Abby. But then two weeks later, I've got another

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set of session of conference. And there's like

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all these other things that I also could be doing.

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And if yes, doing what I heard in the previous

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conference session and starting them then there's

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nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying it's

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such a more gentle tender process. It's more

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doable. It is if you just kind of take them off

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in a more bite size approach. It's a smaller

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accounting to the Lord, you could say. I like

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that. Rather than boom, throw it all out there.

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What do you got for me? Well, when the next thing

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pricks you that you should be doing, you're kind

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of like, oh, it kind of plays off of the thing

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I was already doing. I so felt that. I love that.

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Like it's in steps and layers and there's a deeper

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meaning in it. Totally. And it kind of is the

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confirmation that he recognizes that I'm on that

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track doing that one thing. He's like, she can

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have more. She can take more. She'll feel good

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about it. Love that, Abby. and ponder the messages

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from the general conference and then use them

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to determine and understand what we each can

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do to improve. This is going to look so different

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for each of us, even though in print the words

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are all the same, right? The message is the same.

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When we tap into the spiritual sphere, especially

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when we have entered conference with a question

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in mind or in our hearts, we will each have the

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opportunity to develop a stronger covenantal

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connection with the giver of gifts. That's a

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cute title. When we accept the invitation, understanding

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the why behind what we're doing, we have more

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opportunities to become closer to the Savior.

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We will begin to understand that because of our

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love of the Savior, we want to learn more about

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Him by studying the words of the living prophet.

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And because of our love of fellow man, we can

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share those teachings of prophets, seers, and

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revelators with them, you know, usually starting

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with ourselves. then our family is usually affected.

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Maybe we have responsibilities in our callings

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that we're preparing these lessons. So, you know,

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we're going to share in those ways. And maybe

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just conversation with strangers, because we

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have these words on our heart and our minds,

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it helps us to say the right thing at the right

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time. When I have my own struggles, I'm often

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finding that I can recall truths that I've learned

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because of the study that I put into the general

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conference talks. Okay we're going to pass over

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this one more time. What if you are at a season

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in your life where playing a conference talk

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once through is all you can imagine or sorry

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all you can manage. That's okay. What if you

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challenge the Lord to help you with your challenges

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by pointing you to the in the right direction.

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or asking to be given ears to hear the message

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that has been customized for your specific need

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while you're listening to it that one time. He

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is willing and He is able to be whatever we need

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and whatever we ask for. And again, if you listen

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to the conference talk once through with all

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of your heart and truly give like the widows

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might say, this is all I have to give right now,

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the Lord is going to bless you with all that

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He is able. When have you ever? tried to connect

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yourself with the Savior and been disappointed

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by the outcome? Probably never, right? We're

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continuously Love that, Abby. I know for myself

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that the Church Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints

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is the means established by Heavenly Father to

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access covenants that enable us to return home.

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We work toward having a personal relationship

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with the Father and with the Son. And because

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of this beautiful restoration, we have the privilege

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of performing essential priesthood ordinances

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through which we make covenants with them. This

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provides a covenantal connection. I love that

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he kept saying covenantal connection. I love

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that covenantal was part of each of the things

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because it does. caused me to pause and think

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a little bit and say, that's why I do that thing.

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That's true. It's not just a friendship that

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we can create with Him. It is a breakable bond.

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Yep. That is what came to my mind, bond. The

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covenantal connection with them that grants us

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access to their covenantal love, making it possible

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to attain the highest kingdom of glory prepared

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for all those who are true and faithful to their

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covenants. Any final thoughts, Amy? I feel like

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I've shared them all. This was so great. And

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I'll just say this one last thing is that, again,

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speaking with you and I in real time, as we talk

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about this talk and as we talk about the things

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that we've learned from it, I just want to say

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over and over again that the Holy Ghost really

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does testify to our hearts, the things we've

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learned. and helps us to draw a connection with

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what the Lord is teaching us in our lives. But

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it's not just happenstance. It's not just, holy

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cow, what are we doing here? There's that quiet

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confirmation that you're on the right track as

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you continue to have an accounting and to learn

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of Him. I love it. I couldn't say it better myself.

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I'll close with his testimony. He said, with

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all the energy of my soul, I bear witness to

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the reality and divinity of our Savior, Jesus

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Christ. He loves you. He knows what is happening

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in your life. His arms are wide open, extending

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the invitation. Come unto me and I will give

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you rest. I love the Savior and I love him. My

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love for him is my why. And this he said in the

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name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen, Abby. Thank

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you for being with us. We will see you next time.

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See you next time.
