1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 [♪ Music playing. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Welcome to Closer to Christ, Your General Conference, where two friends who love Jesus share our own approach to studying the most recent General Conference talks. 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 This is Abbey and Amy. Let's jump into it. 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,000 [♪ Music playing. 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Today we're talking about, Behold, I am the light which ye shall hold up. 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:34,000 This is by Elder Ronald A. Rasband of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. Welcome, Abbey. 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,000 It's so good to be here. 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 I agree. Thanks for being here, listeners. 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:45,000 I appreciate Elder Rasband taking the time to point out that the messages that we heard in conference over the past two days 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,000 through his chosen leaders was an opportunity to draw closer to Jesus Christ, 11 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:56,000 an opportunity to see that the Savior makes Himself present in our mortal journey, in part, through these conference talks. 12 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Kind of talked about that in our last talk, right? Or in our last podcast. 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:07,000 And as we dive into them in a month following conference, in the months following, it is yet another opportunity to draw closer to Him 14 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:13,000 as though the Spirit were able to gain impressions on what messages were meant specifically for us in our mortal journey. 15 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:21,000 We don't usually jump right into action items, but it's right here in the opening paragraphs, and it's really a perfect time to remind our listeners 16 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:27,000 of the unique opportunity to be tutored by the Spirit every time we go over these talks, 17 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,000 specifically prepared by the Lord's chosen servants for our day and time. 18 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Yeah, like a little prayer in your heart. What is the message meant for me in this talk? 19 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Because we're different, Abbey. We're different people every time we hear that talk. We've had more experiences. 20 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,000 There are things that are pressing on our minds right then. I'm a different person than I was last week, even. Do you know what I mean? 21 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 So the Lord knows that. These are living scriptures. 22 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:54,000 The message you're facing this particular week can be answered within the talk that you happen to be studying right in that moment. 23 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,000 I 100% believe that. 24 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:01,000 It can happen to be in the come follow me lessons for the week, even if the intent wasn't there. 25 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Right. 26 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:08,000 He can make all things work for our good. When I have specific questions that we haven't, you might ask, 27 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:14,000 what gives them the ability to endure the criticisms that they can sometimes get? 28 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:21,000 It's not all accolades. It's not all positive feedback that they get. How do they have the energy to carry on in all of their duties? 29 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Sheesh. 30 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Nefai described it by saying, my God hath been my support. He hath led me through my afflictions. He hath filled me with his love. 31 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,000 That's the only answer, right? It's important to consider the work that they do. 32 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,000 And then also remember that even though they are happy to be in the service of God, 33 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 that they're not free of the mortal challenges that we really all are facing. 34 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Like when President Eyring was speaking, it was very evident that he was speaking from experience. 35 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,000 His life is not free of trials and sorrows because he's in the service of our Lord. 36 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Their work isn't easy. As members throughout the world, when we choose to sustain our leaders, 37 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:03,000 we aid in giving them the strength they need and fill their duties. And that is how we demonstrate our love. 38 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,000 We might ask ourselves, how can we actively sustain local and general church leaders? 39 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 I love that, the word actively. Are there some thoughts coming to your mind? 40 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Yeah. Oh, I would say, I mean, I think this may be across the board. Maybe it isn't. 41 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:22,000 But in general, I would say that it's probably easier to sustain general leaders 42 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,000 because we don't know them in our personal lives. And it may be a little, 43 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:33,000 it may take some more effort and our consecration to sustain every local leader. 44 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 You know what I mean? And yet it is the same. 45 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 The Lord wants us to sustain all of them, regardless of what, you know, 46 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,000 if we've had interactions with them in business or in whatever, it is across the board. 47 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,000 And it's just a wonderful way to learn forgiveness and to consecrating ourselves to the Lord. 48 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:54,000 What I liked about that is that, like, just to point out how cool it is that we actually get the opportunity 49 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:00,000 to demonstrate our agency in sustaining these leaders. Like sometimes you maybe don't want to, 50 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,000 but you get to consider that for yourself. Every general conference, we get that opportunity. 51 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,000 And then like ward conferences, state conferences, whatever, that happens for our local leaders. 52 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 But it's a pretty simple action, you know, you raise your hand. 53 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:22,000 And basically every subsequent year, you get the chance to resustain or reaffirm that sustaining. 54 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,000 And like you just said, there's instances when people don't feel comfortable sustaining leaders, 55 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 but there's proper channels that those can go up to. 56 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,000 It's not like you can't be heard for when you're questioning these things. 57 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:39,000 And I think better than anything, Abby, is you may not know that when you're asked that question to sustain, 58 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 maybe you didn't know there was something in your heart. 59 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Totally. 60 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,000 And so I think it's another thing that is a beautiful thing we do in the church where it is continued. 61 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,000 An opportunity. 62 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 An opportunity to look inward and say, wait a second, what's bothering me? 63 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Yeah, what's bothering me? And where can I go to the Lord in this and completely remove this? 64 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Yeah. To answer the question about how we can actively sustain leaders 65 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,000 made me think of what I do more than just raising my hand to the square. 66 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,000 To sustain means to hold up another person, to give them our attention, to be faithful to their trust, 67 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 to act upon their words. This is from right from the talk. 68 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,000 They speak by inspiration of the Lord. They understand the current issues, the moral decline of society, 69 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 the adversaries increasing efforts to thwart the Father's plan. 70 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:27,000 In holding up our hands, we are committing our support, not just for that moment, but in our daily lives. 71 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Amen. 72 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Meaning to the best of my ability, when I hear a message that's spoken in general conference and it pricks my spirit, 73 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,000 that's something that I'm being prompted to focus on. 74 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,000 And then I can take actions and steps in my life to make those changes and corrections that I need to do. 75 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Do some, do more of something, do less of something, you know, whatever I'm being prompted to do. 76 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,000 And then the same thing when I attend stake conference and my stake leader share messages pertinent to our stake 77 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:58,000 and I hear them and the spirit testifies to me what part I can have in fulfilling what they're asking me to do, 78 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:04,000 or if I need to make some modifications and I do those actions necessary, then I'm sustaining my stake leader, 79 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 not just because I raised my hand to the square. 80 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Agreed. 81 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 And the same thing on my word level. 82 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Yes, it's much more than raising your hand. That's when you just show the sign of that. 83 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Exactly. 84 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000 It's an everyday interaction. 85 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Through my actions, your actions, yes. 86 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,000 It's important to consider the various situations when sustaining is or can actually take place. 87 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 I really like how Elder Rasband spelled it out. 88 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Sustaining includes holding up our stake presidents and bishops, our quorum and organization leaders, teachers, 89 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 and even camp directors in our wards and stakes. 90 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,000 I'm thinking of your sister right now. 91 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Me too. 92 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:39,000 These next few lines made the importance of sustaining others more powerful. 93 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Closer to home, we hold up our wives and our husbands, children, parents, extended family, and neighbors. 94 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:51,000 How does Elder Rasband suggest that we accomplish the sustaining, Abby? 95 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,000 He says it's not just a matter of raising our hands to the square periodically. 96 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Yeah. 97 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 It's a matter of actually holding up that other person. 98 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,000 I love that visual. 99 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Same. 100 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,000 They included that picture of holding up the arms of the prophet and you're just like, wow. 101 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 That really resonates. 102 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 That's truly, yes, truly sustaining. 103 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Being there for them, being strength at their side, we're reminded in baptismal covenants that we promised 104 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 to bear one another's burdens, that they may be light. 105 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Comfort those that stand in need of comfort and stand as witness of God at all times and all things and all places. 106 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Let's run through this on the home level first. 107 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Okay. 108 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 This is where we each might stop and ask, in my home, am I sustaining my partner? 109 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,000 And if not, maybe what changes am I impressed to make if I stop and consider just that one question? 110 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:41,000 You may think just off the top of your head, you're not being sustained by them. 111 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,000 And if it's more difficult, it's fact, it's more difficult to change another person. 112 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 So if you're thinking that, that's the first thought that comes to your mind, 113 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:55,000 then the best advice would be to mirror the actions in your own life that you would prefer your partner to be doing. 114 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 For sure. 115 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,000 You know, maybe your mind goes to house chores, budgeting, projects around the house, 116 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 maybe a home-centered effort to teach the children the gospel of Jesus Christ. 117 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:10,000 There's not an exact script on how these things are happening in our home that's like constantly evolving. 118 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,000 But what comes to mind here is a reminder that we can have executive councils in our homes, 119 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,000 children councils where we're, you know, we were encouraged years ago to implement those. 120 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 And we've picked them up. We've done them on and off. 121 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,000 But... 122 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Seasons. 123 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 There's definitely seasons of it. 124 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:31,000 But I do know as we've taken the opportunity, it's like a safe place to talk about adjustments that need to be made, 125 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 whatever period of life you're navigating, whatever season that you're in. 126 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Very good. Yes. 127 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Abby, let's dive more into what it looks like to sustain leaders outside our homes. 128 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,000 To the Nephites, Jesus said, Hold up your light that it may shine unto the world. 129 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Behold, I am the light which ye shall hold up. 130 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 How do we do this? 131 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,000 We hold up the Lord's light when we hold fast to our covenants, 132 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,000 when we support our living prophet as he speaks the words of God. 133 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,000 We aren't asked to do this blindly. 134 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:04,000 We're allowed to have the Holy Ghost witness to us the truthfulness of the words of our leaders. 135 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,000 We also do have the option to act on their words before the Spirit confirms the truth 136 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,000 and have the witness after we act in faith for sure, 137 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,000 because usually faith precedes the miracle, right? 138 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Or we act before we know sometimes. 139 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Both options bring us closer to Jesus Christ. 140 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:26,000 If you've taken the time to receive a witness that the general authorities have been called of God, 141 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,000 prevent it is much easier to accept that the words they speak come to mind. 142 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 How do we do this? 143 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 We hold up the Lord's light when we hold fast to our covenants, 144 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,000 and when we support our living prophet as he speaks the words of God. 145 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 We aren't asked to do this blindly. 146 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,000 We're allowed to have the Holy Ghost witness to us the truthfulness of the words of our leaders. 147 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:50,000 We also do have the option to act on their words before the Spirit confirms the truth 148 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 and have the witness after we act in faith. 149 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:58,000 I like taking a prayer in my heart into conference, 150 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,000 and I just ask the Lord to, as they're speaking truth, to have it resonate with my heart 151 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:08,000 so that it's like a continued confirmation that they indeed are called of God. 152 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000 And it happens every single time. 153 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 The truth resonates with me, and I'm happy to act on the words. 154 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Both options bring us closer to Jesus Christ. 155 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,000 If you've taken the time to receive a witness that the general authorities had been called of God, 156 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,000 it's much easier to accept the words that they speak come to their mind 157 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,000 and the words that are uttered from their lips on what the Spirit has prompted them 158 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,000 that they should be, what should be a prophetic priority in this moment 159 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,000 or in their whole service the whole time that they're in. 160 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 He offered more suggestions on sustaining leaders. 161 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:47,000 He said, we do not sit quietly by actively defending him. 162 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Follow his counsel, teach his words, and pray for him. 163 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 For the prophet. 164 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Yeah. He said, force great suggestions. He listed them as this. 165 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Some people think it's their duty to let us all know that God doesn't have the prophet 166 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 and that he doesn't speak to us in our day and our time. 167 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,000 We certainly listen to those words, but when we have a testimony of the prophet, President Nelson, 168 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 as being God's chosen servant on earth at this time, 169 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,000 and we're in a situation where that truth is called into question, 170 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 there's no way to strengthen our testimony of his divine calling 171 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 than to stand up for what we believe to be true. 172 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Counter that argument with your own testimony that you know is a living prophet. 173 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,000 I also love the idea that teaching their words is a way that we sustain a prophet. 174 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:29,000 So defending a prophet and then repeating, resonating, amplifying the words that they speak. 175 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,000 It's so easy with President Nelson. 176 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 It's so easy. He gives us so much good stuff to share. 177 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Meaning any of us that are listening, like if you're listening to this podcast 178 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:44,000 and preparing your own Relief Society lesson and thoughts come to your mind, 179 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,000 you know, elders quorum lessons, if you're preparing a talk for over the pulpit 180 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:55,000 and you deep dive into the conference words and then those resonate with your heart, your soul. 181 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 And then you share those words. 182 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:03,000 That's a way that you're sustaining prophets of God is by resharing those words 183 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 and putting them into the ears and hearts of other people. 184 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,000 How easy it is to add prayers for our leaders and how often have you heard them testify 185 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:16,000 that they have felt privately, you know, they have felt those prayers on their behalf. 186 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 That was number three, pray for them. 187 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,000 And then the last one was to follow their counsel, meaning you hear it, 188 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:27,000 you recognize action items that can be taken, and then you actually implement those. 189 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:35,000 And whether they're long lasting successes or not, you're demonstrating your agency that you wanted to try. 190 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,000 And you know, maybe you didn't get it great the first time and then you're like, 191 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,000 I need to pick that thing that I had a challenge for myself to redo. 192 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 So then you try again. 193 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 But anyway, it's all about demonstrating. 194 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,000 And then when we do it, I think the Spirit can then again, retestify or confirm the truthfulness of the words 195 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:54,000 that these small modifications can have a big difference in bringing us closer to Jesus Christ. 196 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:00,000 You know, Abby, as I hear you say each one of those four things that Elder Rasband suggested, 197 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:06,000 I am realizing that I can definitely be better at praying for our leaders. 198 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 I don't always think of that. 199 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 And so I need to put that in my brain right now and have that be part of it. 200 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,000 So it's like such a small modification. 201 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:20,000 But I mean, I think about them often and the actions that you're doing, you're definitely sustaining them. 202 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,000 But the Spirit can just be like, hey, pray for your leaders. 203 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Your kids will hear you pray for your leaders. 204 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,000 I love that because also prayer is my, that is one of my love languages. 205 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 It's not in the book, but it's definitely one of mine. 206 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 And so I'm like, why haven't I been doing that? 207 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 So I can totally do that and I'm happy to. 208 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:41,000 And then the Spirit just testified to me, like, I think I need to think of that more when I'm in the temple and doing my pro-role. 209 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Or you can do it from anywhere in the world. 210 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:50,000 But adding them to the pro-role so that lots of parts can be said. 211 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 I really love that, Abby. Thank you for saying those. 212 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:58,000 I think it's always wise to remember that those we're sustaining need our sustaining because they are human too. 213 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 King Benjamin in the Book of Mormon said to the people, 214 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,000 I am like as yourselves subject to all manner of infirmities and body and mind. 215 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Yet I have chosen been chosen and was suffered by the hand of the Lord and have been kept and preserved by his matchless power to serve you with all the might, mind and strength, which the Lord hath granted unto me. 216 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:25,000 I do think it's interesting that as far as the brethren go, as far as the 12 and the prophet go, that that is a lifetime calling. 217 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,000 You know what I mean? 218 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,000 There's no release from that except when you pass to the other side of the veil. 219 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:41,000 So when you beat your body down to the extreme, I'm like, you are going to say when you read that that you were like, he certainly has given them strength and sustained them over past their years. 220 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:47,000 I know they've had really healthy habits and probably if you look at their genetics or whatever, they were going to live a while. 221 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:53,000 But I'm like Adam was just listening to something of Elder Holland and I'm like, man, he's having a resurgence of health. 222 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,000 I don't know. He's got some. He looked good to me. 223 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:04,000 But like, what do I know? I just saw him in 2011, you know, because I was going back 20 years and I was like, wow, he changed a lot. 224 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,000 That's what 20 years does. Anyway, they have been sustained. 225 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Yes. No, it's totally true. 226 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Have you ever considered the immensity of the task that our general leaders have? Their assignments throughout the world, the traveling that they have to do. 227 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 That's what I'm saying. Like this is a lifetime devotion. 228 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:32,000 It's mind blowing. Our own beloved prophet is 100 years old. And I don't say that in any way, except in all how despite the challenges of a body that's growing older, he is still able to carry on the duties. 229 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:40,000 God has asked him to do at this time. And if he requires help, we also sustain those who are called to serve with him. Absolutely. 230 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:51,000 There was a quote by Elder Harold B. Lee and it cited the example of Moses standing atop the hill at Raphidium to demonstrate the importance of how counselors help in sustaining prophets. 231 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Paraphrasing the account, it's in Exodus 17, 8 through 16, and it talks about how the Amalekites attacked the Israelites. 232 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:08,000 And Joshua's leading this battle and Moses is standing and as he's told, he's holding this staff of God, as long as Moses' case is hand raised, the Israelites prevail. 233 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:15,000 But when he lowers them, the Amalekites gain advantage. So to support him, Aaron and her hold up his hands until sunset, ensuring victory. 234 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:29,000 And like you referenced, the visual is in the printed form and just to see the importance of a prophet of God standing in the center and then to be flanked on his right and his left by very capable counselors. 235 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:38,000 The story and that image really go a long ways to help us know the importance of all of those that are serving us right now. 236 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Absolutely. The hands of the president of the church may grow weary, he said. They may tend to droop at times because of his heavy responsibilities. 237 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:53,000 But as we uphold his hands and as we lead under his direction by his side, the gates of hell will not prevail against you and against Israel. 238 00:16:53,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Your safety and ours depends upon whether or not we follow the ones whom the Lord has placed to preside over his church. 239 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,000 He knows whom he wants to preside over his church and he will make no mistake. 240 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:14,000 I love that the order of the Lord's church and I love the order of it and I love that as we saw President Nelson's body suffer from intense, gosh, that was so hard, right? 241 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:25,000 The intense back pain most recently that the church didn't miss a beat and that we didn't have to feel any uncertainty that God's work would be carried on in a manner pleasing to the Father. 242 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:33,000 And that the prophet could take the time he needed to rest and recover because we are not asked to do more than we physically are able to do. 243 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:40,000 And because of the sustaining, there are committees and there are other people that are willing to do the things that he physically couldn't at that point. 244 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,000 I would guess that his mind was still very clear and active and doing the things. 245 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:55,000 He was tuned by the Lord in different ways because the talks that came from it, like we had said before, he'd never been really struggled with physical pain. 246 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Physical ailment, right? 247 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:04,000 And so then to have that piece of the Atonement, like to learn that piece of the Atonement, had probably never had such an impact in his life as it did when he was actually suffering with physical pain. 248 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Amen, Abby. 249 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,000 So some good things came out of that horrible time for him. 250 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 President Nelson draws upon years of serving the Lord. 251 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:18,000 His maturity, wide ranging experience, wisdom and consistent receipt of revelation is specifically suited for our day. 252 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:23,000 I honestly don't think, like I didn't think much of President Nelson before he became a prophet. 253 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,000 That might sound bad, but it's not like, oh, I hear you, Russell and Nelson's on or whatever. 254 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 And I hope that doesn't sound bad. 255 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,000 It's not meant to sound bad. 256 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:43,000 But what I mean to say by that is that as an apostle, he carried on about his work, but he was brought up and tutored by just the right men. 257 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Well, and even women, whatever women that he rubbed shoulders with too. 258 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:51,000 But he was tutored in particular experiences in his professional life. 259 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,000 He was also tutored. 260 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,000 Those things have certainly shaped him, molded him. 261 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,000 The experiences with his wife, losing a wife, finding another wife. 262 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Anyway, I just felt like they were all in preparation for him to become the prophet of the church at this time. 263 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:19,000 And I recognize that when reading some of his autobiographical material that's out there, I'm like, oh, he was always meant to be the man in this job right now. 264 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Totally. 265 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:28,000 When I look back at his talks to him, I'm like, man, he's always loved this particular subject or he said this phrase all the time and I just didn't hear it before. 266 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:33,000 We have different ears to hear it when we know that they're like God's chosen prophet. 267 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,000 And I also thought right now God's preparing his next prophet. 268 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,000 He's preparing his next apostle. 269 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:48,000 He's preparing his next Relief Society president, general president, young woman's president, camp counselor. 270 00:19:48,000 --> 00:20:00,000 The list would go on and on and in no way am I trying to make it seem that we have to have the perfect skill set to do whatever job we're called. 271 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,000 I mean, I know that the tutoring happens and you can look back on your life and be like, oh, he was preparing me for this. 272 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Not because all of a sudden now I'm ready for that calling. 273 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:16,000 But it's just a way of tutoring so that it's not so overwhelming when we have to do something that we would maybe choose to not do if given a choice. 274 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Anybody that has a desire to further the work of the Lord and be tutored by him willing to accept revelation that will come through them on God's behalf through children, 275 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:34,000 God's behalf to bless the children in the church throughout the world can be the perfect person for that calling. 276 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:43,000 And you just demonstrate that willing heart to be that person, then he's going to tutor you to be prepared for those things that you could potentially be asked to do. 277 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:53,000 I agree. I feel like it's a lot more about the heart and being willing and teachable and humble than it is about having all of the skills that you would normally have if you're being paid for that job. 278 00:20:53,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Because it all does come, you know, and I also love Abby that if so, Heavenly Father has a perfect view of our strengths and our weaknesses. 279 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:17,000 And I do feel like he very uniquely helps us choose counselors or whoever's with us to literally hold us up because he knows, oh, if this is a weakness, then the first counselor, second counselor needs that to be one of their strengths and vice versa. 280 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,000 So it's just a beautiful whole. As everyone works together, the job gets done. 281 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:32,000 I love this quote so much. President Nelson said, There has never been a time in the history of the world when knowledge of our Savior is more personally vital and relevant to every human soul. 282 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Imagine how quickly the devastating effects throughout the world and those in our individual lives would be resolved if we all chose to follow Jesus Christ and to heed his teachings. 283 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,000 100%, Abby. It'd be a different world. 284 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Like how quickly we would jump to that. How quickly we could end conflicts if we focused on Jesus Christ and his teachings. 285 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,000 What do you want? World peace. I mean, like the answer is there. 286 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:06,000 He quoted the prophet here. He said, One of our greatest challenges today is distinguishing between the truths of God and the counterfeits of Satan. 287 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:14,000 That is why the Lord warned us to pray always that we may conquer Satan and escape the hands of the servants of Satan that do uphold the adversary's work. 288 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Doctrine and Covenants 10.5. 289 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:34,000 I think those two quotes work so well together because they focus on our Savior and us getting to know him and that we can recognize that his called servants are emulating the actions of the Savior in a manner he would do if he were here with us all the time. 290 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:42,000 And I think it's easier to pick up on what truth is and what Satan's counterfeit if we're focusing in that way. 291 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Have you ever been in the presence of a prophet of God? 292 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000 I have like a conference when I've been there. 293 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Yeah, huge conference room. Like how many people are, what would we say are in conference centers? 294 00:22:52,000 --> 00:23:00,000 What is it? 20,000? There's a lot. Doesn't matter how many people are there. He walks in and the room shifts. It is different, right? 295 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:11,000 That's what I wanted you to say. I was in the Joseph Smith building in President Hinckley's ward when like you never know if they're going to be here around the world, but we were there and it was loud and chatty. 296 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:18,000 We were like the very farthest back like a couple of bifold doors and I'm like a child remembering this is like probably a 30 year old story for me. 297 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:25,000 And people were chatting like they do before a meeting and then all of a sudden a spirit fell over the room and hushed over the crowd. 298 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Absolutely. 299 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Like, undescribable. And so, like without even seeing his face like the, and you're feeling that too. 300 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:41,000 I went to the conference of the very first session, that Saturday morning session, the very first one that it was ever. 301 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:46,000 There's so many people in there and when a hush can fall over crowd without having to be like shh, shh. 302 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000 Oh yeah. There's no direction needed. 303 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:59,000 It just invites this absolute calming presence. It's an amazing experience. I would love, I would love to hope for everybody that they've got to be in the presence of these people, which just adds to the testimony. 304 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Like mostly the experience was with President Hinckley, but I know that I would feel that same way if the prof, if I was with the president Nelson. 305 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Totally. 306 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:15,000 And I bring this up because in this talk it talks about how he surprised everyone when he came to the rededication of the Manti Utah Temple. 307 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Yes, I loved that. 308 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:25,000 His eight great, how does eight work? Parents, grandparents, great grandparents makes eight right? His eight great grandparents all hailed from that Manti area. 309 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:32,000 So it was a really important pioneer temple to him. And it said, in his presence, I immediately felt the light and prophetic mantle. 310 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,000 He carries the look of joy on the faces of the people personally seeing the prophet will stay with me forever. 311 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:50,000 And I would add to that, he encounters the prophet weekly, maybe daily. I mean, so much that I think sometimes when we're in the presence, like you, you never doubt that they're prophets of God, 312 00:24:50,000 --> 00:25:02,000 but probably seeing the faces of people that aren't accustomed to being with him all the time, like the absolute awe, like the joy you feel when you're with him reminds you of like all that first time that you were. 313 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Oh, yeah. First time every time, man. 314 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,000 Yeah. 315 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:12,000 So Elder Rasband brings up the stories mostly because of what we shared in the rededication prayer. 316 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:23,000 As I read it, I want to think of the following questions. How are temples and temple covenant designed to, how are our temple covenants designed to sustain us in our individual lives? 317 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:31,000 In the prayer of rededication, President Nelson petitioned the Lord that his holy house would essentially hold up all who entered the temple. 318 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:39,000 I love that visual too, Abby. That they, these are, this is a quote that they may receive sacred blessings and remain worthy and faithful to their covenants. 319 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:48,000 That this may be a house of peace, a house of comfort and a house of personal revelation for all who enter these doors worthily. 320 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 So beautiful. 321 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:57,000 That's so great. It's so great. The rededication of temple prayers, those are documented there in church history stuff. 322 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,000 I know, you can find them. 323 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,000 Yes. And so I've gone back to the temple that we're most often attending and you can read those. 324 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000 You can find it on the temple page. 325 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Yes. 326 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Anything that's happened there, like there's a history of it and it's fantastic. 327 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000 I would strongly suggest everybody doing that, like seeing what- 328 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000 For their temple. 329 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Yeah. Just to remind yourself of- 330 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,000 Oh, I love that. I love that. 331 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 They're, yeah, they're very accessible. 332 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:23,000 It's special and it's very unique to that area, to the saints there, to the pioneer saints and to the people who will be living there, you know, currently. 333 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,000 So yeah, I think it's very applicable. 334 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,000 It's great to be drawn to the temple in whatever way possible. And that's just one way. 335 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:43,000 I feel that when I'm in, in His temples, in His house, when I make the temple a priority, I feel that despite how busy my day may be, when I enter the temple, worries and cares of the world, they're softened. 336 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Softened is a really good word. 337 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Even if it's just for a moment. And I know I have to get back to the things that were pressing on my mind before them. They don't seem the same when I go back and pick them back up on the other side of those doors. 338 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Agreed. 339 00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:04,000 Answers to my questions, the things that I've gone in there with, when I've gone in there with things on my mind, I create a space for the answers to come top of mind. 340 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:13,000 And I've received many times, I've received clear impressions in the temple that maybe would have taken me a lot longer on the outside of the temple. 341 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,000 100% agreed. 342 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:29,000 Temples are being established throughout the world in an effort to sustain God's children everywhere. And to me, it's deeply touching manifestation of God's love. Just the incredible number of temples that are being built. 343 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:35,000 This is a quote, we build temples to honor the Lord. President Nelson said, they are built for worship and not for show. 344 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:42,000 I love that reminder. We make sacred covenants of eternal significance inside these sacred walls. We are gathering Israel. 345 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:52,000 We make it, for me, it makes me extra grateful that the prophet of God at this time is President Nelson. And his prophetic charge seems to be to accelerate the work of temples. 346 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,000 350 sacred houses of the Lord are operating, announced or under construction. 347 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Amazing. 348 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:05,000 And when he became prophet in 2018, that was 168. Seems like it's something top of his mind. 349 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Yes, absolutely. In our time, he has said a whole complete and perfect union of all dispensations, keys and powers are to be welded together. 350 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:21,000 This is in DNC 1, 2018. For these sacred purposes, holy temples now dot the earth, like you just said, 350. 351 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:29,000 I emphasize again that construction of these temples may not change your life, but your service in the temple surely will. 352 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:36,000 The Savior and I 100% stand behind that. The Savior and his doctrine are the very heart of the temple. 353 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:42,000 President says, everything taught in the temple through instruction and through the Spirit increases our understanding of Jesus Christ. 354 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:54,000 His essential ordinances bind us to him through sacred priesthood covenants. Then as we keep our covenants, he endows us with his healing, strengthening power. 355 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:02,000 I really feel the importance of these words and I feel them deeply. I just feel like temple attendance truly can change your life. 356 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:08,000 All who worship in the temple, President Nelson has said, will have the power of God and angels having charge over them. 357 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:18,000 How much does it increase your confidence to know that as an endowed woman or man or temple attending youth, armed with that power of God, you do not have to face life alone? 358 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,000 What courage does it give you to know that angels really will help you? 359 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,000 I do want to delve into the angels like it's come up again. 360 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000 It comes up a lot. 361 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:38,000 It does come up a lot. But one thought before that that I was thinking of was that we're talking this whole time about sustaining and upholding his prophets and our leaders. 362 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:48,000 But in this section, we're talking about how it's not a one way street because we are willing to listen and abide by the things that the prophets are teaching us. 363 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:56,000 What we get back in return is all of that strength and power that comes as we make comets in the temple for him to sustain us back. 364 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:03,000 It's totally true, Abby. Also, I was praying in the past couple of weeks and I was asking Heavenly Father how I could best. 365 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:11,000 I have a list of things I'm working on this year and at the end of each month I go through and just say, you know, kind of where am I with these? 366 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:20,000 It was just interesting because as I was praying, I had the very distinct impression that as I went, there is nothing more healing I can do in any realm of healing, 367 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:27,000 whether it's spiritual, physical, mental, emotional, that will get me further and closer to healing than going to the temple. 368 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,000 Like Heavenly Father put in no uncertain terms in my heart and I was just like, okay. 369 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:38,000 And the thought and feeling that I had was because when you go there, you yourself receive the Spirit. 370 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,000 You receive just more of an understanding of Jesus Christ and what he's done for you personally. 371 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,000 And at the same time, you are affecting generations because of the work you're doing. 372 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:57,000 So it's kind of like it just felt like, I don't know, like an overall feeling of healing and wholeness and getting closer to Christ that we're all doing it together. 373 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:06,000 And the ones that were serving, like I was doing initiatory, so those five women that I took in my family line, it also really brightened their day. 374 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:13,000 So to have those initiatory, if you're thinking about if your temple attending and you think of those initiatory blessings that are given to you, 375 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,000 they are beautiful and I just love that five more people have that in their life. 376 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:24,000 And then that goes because each one of them, then their children, and that's what I'm saying, it's just a never ending. 377 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,000 I do know what you're saying. 378 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,000 So when you ask me what kind of courage it gives me to know that angels are there to help me, 379 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:36,000 it gives me great courage, great confidence to know that I can be sustained by hand, both seen and unseen. 380 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:44,000 For those of you who are like me just blown away by the number of times we've heard about ministering of angels, 381 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000 it seems like way more frequently. 382 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000 You say it's been all the time always. 383 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,000 No, I agree though. 384 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Oh, you think it has ramped up? 385 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,000 I do. 386 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Well, Elder Rasband said, angels reaching out to us, hold us up, 387 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,000 is described in the scriptures when Jesus humbly knelt in the garden of Gethsemane. 388 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,000 I can promise you I never really zeroed in on this until I was reminded of it in this talk. 389 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000 He said, by suffering, he provided an infinite atonement. 390 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,000 There, President Nelson states, the greatest single act of love of all recorded history took place. 391 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:21,000 There at Gethsemane, the Lord suffered the pain of all men that all might repent and come unto him. 392 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:27,000 Remove this cup from me, Jesus asked, nevertheless, not my will, but thine be done. 393 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,000 And we know that he doesn't feel the presence of God for a brief moment. 394 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,000 He has to feel what it feels like, what it will feel like for all of us to disassociate ourselves from God. 395 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:42,000 And then he says this quote, and there appeared an angel unto him from heaven strengthening him. 396 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,000 I missed that. 397 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000 Favorite. 398 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Well, of course it was your favorite. 399 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000 I'm glad I know about it now. 400 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Angels are all around us. President Nelson has said, in the temple, you will learn how to part the veil between heaven and earth, how to ask for God's angels to attend you. 401 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000 That is one of my favorites as well. 402 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:07,000 I feel like that is a call to action for each one of us because you might say, wait a second, in the temple, I'm learning that. 403 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Am I really? 404 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,000 And maybe it's a time for reflection and prayer to ask, how are you taking advantage of that in your life? 405 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:28,000 And from you, I've learned, as we know our ancestors and we know our ancestry, we know their stories and we face challenges similar to that in our own life, we can ask for their help because they have been there, they have done those things. 406 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,000 And the Lord will dispatch them on our behalf. 407 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000 We're not asked to blindly sustain our leaders. 408 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:41,000 When we recognize that we are amplifying the light of Christ, when we sustain them, 409 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,000 we recognize that they are a true source of good. 410 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:57,000 When we do our best to share the things that we've learned as they teach us, as we've synthesized it, as we put it into our own testimony, both in the way that we act and the words that we say, 411 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:04,000 those actions will tell the world, will tell our souls that we've accepted their words to be true. 412 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:14,000 I've been blessed to be able, I've been blessed in my own callings, being sustained in my own callings, different callings I've had over the years. 413 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Maybe I haven't had the gust out of shoulder of those burdens on my own. 414 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:29,000 And like you've said before, like the counselors that I've worked with, or maybe I've been the counselor to a president and together we've achieved something that none of us could have achieved on our own. 415 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:37,000 It gives me a greater desire to look around, look at those around me and try to determine, you know, what maybe can I be doing in this moment to lift up and sustain those that are around me. 416 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:44,000 It's a pattern that I see with God and it's a pattern that I want to be more aware of. Am I emulating that in my own life? 417 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Love that, absolutely. 418 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,000 There's probably always more that we can be doing. 419 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,000 Sure. Abbie, do you have anything, any final words, any final thoughts? 420 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Probably just that. This one's gone on a little bit longer than probably we should have, but it is what it is. 421 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:09,000 Let me end with his testimony. To many testimonies at this conference, I add my apostolic witness that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, our Lord and Savior, the Redeemer of all of our Father's children. 422 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:17,000 By His Atonement, Jesus Christ made it possible for us, if we are worthy, to return to the presence of our Father in heaven and to be with our families for eternity. 423 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,000 I bear my apostolic witness that Jesus Christ is the light of the world. 424 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,000 Maybe all as His disciples hold up His light in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. 425 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,000 Amen, Abbie. Thanks for being with us. Catch you next time.