1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,160 Welcome to Closer to Christ. This is Abby and Amy. And this is Jeff. So as you notice, 2 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,880 we've brought a new voice onto the episode today. This is going to be what we're considering 3 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:29,520 like a special New Year's offering for you. And Jeff comes with a huge skill set and there's 4 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,180 something specific that we've invited him to come and share as a kickoff to the New 5 00:00:34,180 --> 00:00:40,720 Year. We think that it coordinates really well with our intention for the podcast to 6 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:47,200 learn from the past, to see what it has offered us and to help it propel us to what we can 7 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,880 do with our future selves. Any other comment on the material we're bringing out today? 8 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,600 Well, we incorporate the atonement of Jesus Christ into our lives, because also as we 9 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,840 look to the past, we can also realize that that doesn't have to be the end of our story. 10 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,000 As we incorporate Him and bring Him in, He can redeem anything and He can help us moving 11 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:12,240 forward. He can help us look at the past with the mindset that it was all for experience 12 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,640 and learning. But if we weren't happy with it, we can do better. And if we loved it, 13 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,520 we can do more of it. Love it. Maybe a quote from Elder Holland would be appropriate right 14 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:24,480 here. He said, the past is to be learned from not lived in. Faith is always pointed towards 15 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:30,600 the future. So, this podcast today is in an effort to help us all become more faith-filled 16 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:37,280 and more optimistic in Jesus Christ, seeing what we can learn from what we did just recently, 17 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,760 2024. It's behind us, but it doesn't have to be gone forever. If there's something positive 18 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:47,280 we can bring forward. So, I think it might be helpful, Jeff, if you could, like, I don't 19 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,720 know that we need credentials necessarily, but can you give us a little background? What 20 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,680 makes you the guy to be on the podcast today to share this with us? 21 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Yeah, you bet. First of all, it's great to be here because I listen to your podcast every 22 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,600 week and it's awesome. And secondly, I really do. It's awesome. And sometimes you evoke 23 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,980 tears in me and it's great and I love it. It's great. What I get to do every day, besides 24 00:02:08,980 --> 00:02:13,520 being a husband of 25 years and four awesome kids, now five because my son got married, 25 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:20,320 but I get to coach CEOs around the world. And after having built or been a part of other 26 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:27,000 businesses from software to healthcare to others, I saw how businesses operate. I love 27 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,280 that aspect of life, but I love the leadership behind it. And all of the leadership that 28 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:37,520 I ever studied was all based on how Christ led. So, after building a couple of businesses, 29 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,920 I set off on my own with my wife to start our own business about almost seven years 30 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:47,560 ago now. Crazy. And what we get to do exclusively is help CEOs confidently grow their business 31 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,960 without losing their priorities or their soul. Because building a business can be so hard 32 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,080 and it breaks out families. And the Lord was very clear with me and with my wife, too many 33 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,760 businesses are succeeding at the expense of families and I'm not okay with that. Go fix 34 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,200 that or go change that. So, that's what I get to do. And so, I help them behind the 35 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:13,520 scenes. I help them through inspired questions and through other aspects to just help them 36 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,040 grow their business and themselves in a way that is true to who they are and who they 37 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:23,480 are meant to become versus getting distracted by all the things of life. And so, I use what 38 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:29,600 we'll talk about today, this framework, every year with my clients and others to help them 39 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:36,720 grow, help them learn and help them get on a path that enables them to become the better 40 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,520 version of themselves every year. 41 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,280 Without sacrificing things that were previously important to them. 42 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,120 Correct. Go ahead. 43 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,600 You may help them uncover what is important to them. Maybe in a business setting, no one's 44 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:53,440 asked the questions about a relationship because in general, those two are not combined. 45 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:59,560 Yeah. One of my clients one time from the UK, he said, you know, you should market yourself 46 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:05,040 differently. And I said, why? And he said, well, I get from you so much more than what 47 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,320 you said you'd give. And I said, what do you mean? He said, well, I knew I'd be a better 48 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,560 CEO and I grow my business, but I had no idea I'd be a better husband. I'd be a better father. 49 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,240 I'd be more grounded. I'd be more patient that I would just enjoy life more and that 50 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,520 I would feel true success. And I said, so let me tell you, if I marketed to you, oh, 51 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,360 you'll be a better husband and father. Would you have bought? And he goes, no. Yeah, no. 52 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,800 I wasn't in the market for that. 53 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,700 So he taught me this line that you market and sell what people want and you deliver 54 00:04:33,700 --> 00:04:35,960 what they need. And that's what I do. 55 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,680 So this is going to air today right after we record it as a New Year's gift. And then 56 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,560 tomorrow's Thursday, we upload a podcast. It happens to be on spiritual gifts. Can you 57 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,600 tell me, is there something in your patriarchal blessing you're comfortable highlighting that 58 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:55,080 makes you perfect for? Do you feel like you were led? I do. I'm just having this conversation 59 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,880 with you. First time I'm hearing this story and I'm feeling like Heavenly Father, because 60 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:04,440 Jeff was open to the idea, helped him to streamline into a career that he's changing lives with. 61 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,440 Totally. 62 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Yes. 63 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Tell me what you think about that. 64 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,640 Yeah. You know, the classic analogy where you can't connect dots forward, but you can 65 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,640 backward, right? 66 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,000 Oh, thank you for saying that because that's what we try to share on this. We say it different 67 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,440 ways and that might be for somebody like, exactly. 68 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,200 But you know, you can't do that forward looking, but backward, I look back and go, oh my gosh, 69 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,800 yeah, I did this and then this. And then when I did this and learned this, and then my, 70 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,040 almost lost my wife and my son at childbirth. And then I was diagnosed with cancer and then 71 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,420 a whole bunch of things that happened in my life that I look back and go, oh yeah, I was 72 00:05:35,420 --> 00:05:37,040 perfectly tailored for this. 73 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:43,720 So to answer your question more specifically, the two spiritual gifts that I pray for and 74 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,800 exercise in every coaching session, and I kid you not, every coaching session beforehand, 75 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:54,600 I pray for the gift of discernment and the gift of charity. Those two. And the reason 76 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,820 why those are critical in coaching, in my opinion, is the gift of charity creates an 77 00:05:59,820 --> 00:06:06,560 environment of zero judgment, of zero guilt, zero shame, just total openness for people 78 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:12,280 to bear their heart and soul. And CEOs do not have spaces that are safe to do that. 79 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:17,320 They just don't. They have to be strong. They have to be the stalwart leader. And so with 80 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,720 me, we create an environment that they can just vent, they can process, they can weep, 81 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,080 which they do a lot, because they can't really do that with anyone else. So that charity 82 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:32,800 is critical. And then discernment is critical because the Lord has helped me and continues 83 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:39,960 to help me foster the gift of listen for what is not being said and how they say it, their 84 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,040 energy. You know, if you listen to people, I'm not saying that I needed credit for that 85 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,680 or anything. In other words, I needed credit for that. I'm not saying that I was frustrated 86 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,680 by that. 87 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,680 I'm not saying that I'm sane. 88 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,920 Right. And people out themselves all the time. That's a pretty overt one, but some that are 89 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:01,700 a little harder to discover is when they'll say something like, you know, I hired this 90 00:07:01,700 --> 00:07:05,520 executive team member and you know, they're doing good, they're doing okay, and that's 91 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:11,520 okay. And then I'll stop and say, are they though? Well, not really. Okay, and then we'll 92 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:17,320 go through. But discernment is the gift that I exercise on the daily to help uncover what's 93 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,440 really going on and help them see themselves. 94 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:25,400 So also in that discernment process, true or not true, you have to, you're more so discerning, 95 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:31,000 are they open to change something about themselves? Because you can identify something that could 96 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,360 be changing, could really impact their business, but at some point they have to decide for 97 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,960 themselves. They're ready to run with it. 98 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:36,960 Yeah. Agency. 99 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,480 Yeah. And maybe you have to start with a much smaller baby step than you initially plan 100 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:46,140 to like head into. Okay, I have to say that I was tidying up like loose ends on the Book 101 00:07:46,140 --> 00:07:53,680 of Mormon. Like I missed like a couple of chapters, you know, back in, I don't know, 102 00:07:53,680 --> 00:08:00,200 another, and then I wanted to re-emphasize the Moroni chapters. And so I went into Moroni 103 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,520 chapter 10, and let me just read the top of the heading. The gifts of the Spirit are dispensed 104 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:10,400 to the faithful. Spiritual gifts always accompany faith. And listening to that chapter, like 105 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,760 as a closing to last year, and then you just re-emphasizing there are gifts that you thank 106 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:20,480 Him for and gifts that you pray to have. What a beautiful, like, what a beautiful thing 107 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,520 to remind people of that it's not selfish you're asking for those gifts, because then 108 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,320 you're taking that in your business and blessing, like you said, CEOs around the world. 109 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,320 For sure. 110 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,200 You bring His light into their lives, even though they maybe don't realize that that's 111 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,560 what you're doing, it's happening. 112 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:40,320 Also, when we pray for a gift, it is telling Heavenly Father that we understand and we 113 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:48,340 put a name to a specific attribute or quality of Christ that we need in this specific situation. 114 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:53,200 So really what we're telling Him is, we value and honor your Son, Jesus Christ, and this 115 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,640 is the part that I need right now. Like, this is where I need it. And for sure, what loving 116 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,520 parent is not going to bless them with that. 117 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,320 Right. Especially when your motive is in a pure place, in a way we're alluding to, Abby. 118 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:10,160 That's critical. Otherwise, if it's for our own gain or our own credit and glory, we can 119 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:15,600 ask for it, but if it's to puff up our pride, that's not really helpful. But if it's for 120 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,240 the blessing of other people, His children, He'll give it to us. 121 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,840 Because at that point, it's not a gift from God, it's amen to that gift, and it's all 122 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,840 about you. 123 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:25,840 Right. 124 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,440 Which, you just poured water on that whole thing. 125 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,440 Not helpful. 126 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:36,320 Moroni 10, verse 8, and again, I exhort you, my brethren, that ye deny not the gifts of 127 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,240 God. There are many. They come from the same God. And there are different ways these gifts 128 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,600 are administered, but it's the same God who worketh in all, and they are given by the 129 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,320 manifestations of the Spirit unto men to profit them. For behold, to one is given the 130 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Spirit of God, that he may teach the word of wisdom. Again, if you were really wise 131 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,000 and you had the ability to teach, what's the benefit if you don't have somebody to teach 132 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,000 to? 133 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Right. 134 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,640 It's a gift that's never meant to be selfishly used. It is always to be projected on the 135 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:08,880 outward, and that's really when the gift magnifies itself. So, teach us. You are here today. 136 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,140 Bestow your knowledge. 137 00:10:11,140 --> 00:10:17,280 One thing that I love to do with clients at this time of year is take them through a framework 138 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:24,080 that is called how to create your best year yet. Notice the wording of that. Create is 139 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:30,000 important. I believe we're creative spiritual beings, and we are meant to create in every 140 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:37,880 aspect. And best year yet, not best year ever. I love Elder Holland's talk, a quote around 141 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,400 it, it's all about the future, creating greatness and learning from the past and enabling that 142 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,080 to help us be better so that every year is your best year yet. And it actually comes 143 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,520 from a book from Ginny Ditzler, Your Best Year Yet, it's what it's called, and she 144 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:57,720 goes through a series of ten questions that are just powerful. But I added a few steps 145 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:03,400 preemptively to the questions to prepare. And I think the preparation steps are critical 146 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:09,580 because you incorporate and partner with the Lord and with the Holy Ghost through the process 147 00:11:09,580 --> 00:11:14,800 to then enable these questions to be magnified, which is another spiritual principle. So, 148 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:23,040 the first step is you start the process with prayer. Surprise, surprise. Not anything surprising 149 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:29,320 to most that are listening, but it's an intentional prayer to align our will to His will, specifically 150 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:35,720 in the coming year, and to ask specific questions about next year, what does He want for me, 151 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:41,240 what does He see for me, because He sees who I'm going to become way better than I do. 152 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,480 And so, when I ask Him that question, then ponder and write, I start to intentionally 153 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,360 align my will to His to make sure that everything that I'm doing starts on the foundation of 154 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,080 His will so that I center it around Him and Christ. So, that's step one. 155 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,360 I'm going to pause you. If you are listening to this and you think you want to see this, 156 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,960 you're a visual learner, and this does actually require like a little bit of paper to pencil 157 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,240 type of work. Jeff has a four-page document and not a website to share, but he's willing 158 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,560 to allow us to put his email in the show notes. And then when you email him from the show 159 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:15,480 notes, he'll shoot this over to you. So, you'll be able to physically see this. If you think 160 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,640 that would be helpful to see it while he's talking right in this moment, put us on pause, 161 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,400 go to the link, get it printed, and then you'll have this in your hands because it makes all 162 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,160 the difference for me. Certainly, you can go back to it, but there's nothing wrong with 163 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,560 putting us on pause, and then we'll go to the next step. 164 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:32,120 We'll be here when you get back. 165 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,960 Right, because I'm with you. Visual learning for me is everything. If I'm just listening, 166 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:36,960 it's hard for me to... 167 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,360 Where's he going with this? 168 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,760 Yeah, totally, totally. So, that's step one. And, you know, with some of my clients who 169 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:47,400 where prayer isn't their jam, where they don't necessarily... 170 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,440 Like you have a lot of European clients. It's just not their thing. 171 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,280 Right, right. It's just different. But they have, they're deeply spiritual people. 172 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,280 In the business world. 173 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,280 Right. 174 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,280 Not saying that to our European listeners. 175 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,760 Right, right. Yeah, and many in the business world just, yeah, it's different. And it's 176 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,960 not wrong. It's just different. And so, what I do is meet them where they're at and take 177 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:08,320 them where they want to go. And often, I'll just anchor them to their purpose. What are 178 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,200 they meant to do? What are they meant to create? Why are they here in the world? And make sure 179 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,760 they tap into that for next year. And the purpose and the, really, the depth of that 180 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,340 is humility. Recognizing that we're here to bless other people's lives. We're not here 181 00:13:21,340 --> 00:13:26,600 to look great or to make a ton of money. And the money can be great, but in the benefit 182 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,840 of whom is what I like to anchor them on. So that's step one. Start with prayer or purpose. 183 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,040 Step two, and this isn't part of the book either, but I think it's critical because 184 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,320 again, there's another spiritual component to this. I call it purging the past. And what 185 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:48,440 you do is ask yourself a series of questions to make sure that you are in a place of true 186 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,080 learning and growth where in essence, it's kind of like an Alma 32 where you're preparing 187 00:13:53,080 --> 00:14:00,160 the soil and that you don't put anything on barren ground. Alma 32, I had it ready, it's 188 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:09,640 39. Bering ground is mixed with disbelief. It's mixed with being apathetic or lazy, not 189 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,920 really being intentional. It's also mixed with not having real intent. And so you've 190 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:21,000 got to clear some things to make sure that you are in a place to create the future. Otherwise, 191 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,680 if you create and go skip to step three and go through, okay, here's what I want to create 192 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,440 for the year, you're piling it on a foundation that isn't really prepared. 193 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,440 Can't take root. 194 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:31,440 Correct. It can't take root. 195 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:37,640 Question, do you ever get contacted in your business world to do some work with the CEO 196 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:44,520 and you discern that we're dealing with barren ground and you politely refuse your services 197 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,520 to them? 198 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:46,520 We're not a good fit for each other. 199 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:52,840 Yes. Yeah. I have a whole process that I take them through before they become clients to 200 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,800 make sure we both make sure it's a good fit. 201 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,800 The wills are aligned. 202 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,680 There's lots of coaches out there and I don't have to be the coach for everybody, nor do 203 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,480 I want to be. And so yes, I definitely look for that. And really what I'm looking for 204 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,480 is humility. 205 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Okay. So if you have a listener that's like, I'm not ready for this or like, I don't want 206 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:17,600 to tap into that. I don't want to project. I don't want to look towards 2025. I'm just 207 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,200 going to like do it a day at a time and get there when I get there. 208 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,400 What advice can we give them? 209 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,920 More power to you. The thing that I tell people through this is just because this is a framework 210 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,880 that has worked for many people doesn't mean it has to work for you and that you have to 211 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:38,360 follow every step. My wife, for example, is amazing at creating and envisioning things. 212 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:44,440 But when it comes to structure and rigidity and time-based goals, she's just like, she 213 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:50,600 feels claustrophobic. And so a process that's in depth like this actually squelches her 214 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,360 ability to create and she feels like it's all or nothing. 215 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,360 I'm married to that man. 216 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,360 Yeah. 217 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,360 I am too. 218 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,920 Not the same man, but it takes one person in the couple to be the rigid, fill out the 219 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,920 form. 220 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,920 Yes. 221 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,800 Here's the problem that I found. The person that's rigid often is louder and more, this 222 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,080 is the way. 223 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,080 My husband's laughing over there. 224 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,440 Yeah, exactly. And is my wife. For years, we would do our business retreat at the end 225 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,080 of the year, at the beginning of the year, and it would end in tears. And I was like, 226 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:25,520 what am I doing wrong? And we finally realized, look, Jeff, the way it works for you doesn't 227 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:31,120 work for me. But she didn't have words to that until she realized, oh, I have perfectionism 228 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,760 sometimes. It's all or nothing. If I am going to start something, it's all in. And I'm like, 229 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:41,040 why am I going to do this if I know I'm going to, after 32 days, stop anyway? What's the 230 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:47,360 point? And so we've realized, stop. Just with, that's why step one is so critical to say, 231 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,320 what does the Lord want for me? And how do I tailor this to my personality versus trying 232 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,480 to fit in some box that some loud person like Jeff is saying, this is what you should do? 233 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,560 No, it doesn't have to be that way. And so if there are people listening going, all of 234 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,160 this is overwhelming, good, that's totally fine. Then what I would invite you to do is 235 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,880 find out the parts that aren't overwhelming. Start with that. And if it's just one of these 236 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:11,880 steps, cool. 237 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,960 Danielle Pletka Yep. And then also like this exists in time 238 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,320 like forever. We always think it's exciting to think when we do the podcast, that maybe 239 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,280 our children might tap back into it at some point. I always tell people, you're not putting 240 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:28,520 this information in the trash can, put it on that metaphorical bookshelf in your mind 241 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,740 and that you'll know that it's in the back there. Maybe something happens this year that 242 00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:36,560 changes your ability to pick up something new and different. You'd be like, oh, there 243 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,280 was that process that I can go through on looking at the past and looking forward to 244 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,960 the future. And I'm in a mindset that that works for me now. And then to be able to find 245 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,160 this because it will be January 1st, 2025, you'll be able to find it. 246 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,320 Danielle Pletka Yeah. Especially if you started with prayer, 247 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:54,580 you literally invited the Lord into the process with you and the Holy Ghost, like Jeff said. 248 00:17:54,580 --> 00:17:59,100 And so maybe you even just read just the beginning of it and there'll be like a little, oh yeah, 249 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:01,080 that one part totally works for me right now. 250 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Jeffery Timmins Right. 251 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,560 Danielle Pletka And feel satisfied that that's all that 252 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,920 you were meant to or needed to accomplish in that time. I will say this podcast might 253 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,760 hit a chord for some people just listening through the process and saying, I don't really 254 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,560 need the physical paper to work through this. I'll just kind of reflect on the year like 255 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,480 you're going to walk us through. And then the people that are like, I've got to have 256 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,640 my hands on something. Like I said, that's going to be available. And then I'm pretty 257 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,920 sure Amy has filling the impression to do a guided visualization on this. 258 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,320 Danielle Pletka You're pretty sure. For the more of the creative-minded 259 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,640 or like people that are on the go. Like it feels like, it feels like something that could 260 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,640 be in your skillset. 261 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,640 Jeffery Timmins Yeah. That's a good idea. 262 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,760 Danielle Pletka Thank you for using that spiritual gift. Just 263 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,000 being impressed to use that spiritual gift to bless anybody. 264 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,560 Amy Quinton Remember your spiritual gift is to invite. 265 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,560 Danielle Pletka Yes, totally. 266 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,560 Amy Quinton Mine is usually to think on it and ask the 267 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,560 spirit if that's true. 268 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,560 Danielle Pletka I just inventory-ed you. That's the gift. 269 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,560 Jeffery Timmins That's great. 270 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:58,200 So yeah, so on step two, think of this analogy. You have a closet that over the years you 271 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,680 just pile clothes on or things and it gets just... 272 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,680 Amy Quinton He's been to my house? 273 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:03,680 Jeffery Timmins It gets unruly. 274 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,680 Amy Quinton You tell him about me. 275 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,680 Jeffery Timmins Or a garage or a workshop. 276 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,680 Amy Quinton All of the above. 277 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Jeffery Timmins And over time, you don't have any place to 278 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,320 put things, right? And it just, sometimes you start to avoid it because it's just like, 279 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:17,040 or you shut the door real fast so it doesn't fall out, right? You can't create new things 280 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,120 when there isn't space for the creation. 281 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,120 Amy Quinton Amen. 282 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:23,400 Jeffery Timmins So, when you metaphorically or literally clean 283 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,280 out the closet, that's what this step two is for. And here are the questions. What part 284 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,520 of yourself will you let go of in order to improve and grow to the next level, number 285 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:37,660 one? Number two, any habits you want to change or replace? Number three, any relationships 286 00:19:37,660 --> 00:19:43,320 you want to improve? Number four, anyone you need to forgive? And number five, is there 287 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:49,000 anything else that's holding you back? All of those questions are deep. And sometimes 288 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,560 we don't want to answer those questions. We're like, nah, you know, you kind of plug your 289 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,720 ears and move on. So you don't have to do that process. All I'm saying is I invite you 290 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:02,520 to do it because when you do, what you create will stick. It'll last. You'll be on fertile 291 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:08,640 ground. If you don't, you kind of add more to the piles in your closet, and it's not 292 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,960 helpful. And it's why President Nelson and several years back when he shared his masterful 293 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:18,160 talk of the things you do to expect and create miracles, there were a few things beforehand. 294 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,640 And then at the end, it was about relationships that people need to forgive, right? And those 295 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,400 things harbor our hearts and our minds to receive the Spirit, going back to step one 296 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,200 of what the Lord wants from you. If you don't clear that out, you don't have eyes to seniors 297 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,200 to hear. 298 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,120 So can I share one thing? Also, when Jeff was reading those different questions, again, 299 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:43,320 going back to when we invite the Lord and also the Holy Ghost to be with us, just the 300 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:48,820 way that he is a gentle corrector, I have had in my life when I'm reading those, first 301 00:20:48,820 --> 00:20:52,960 I look at all of them, I'm like, that's too overwhelming. Then as I ask myself the questions, 302 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:59,400 usually what happens for me is every single answer is the same thing. It's just one thing. 303 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:06,320 And he's just asking me to shift one thing, and then we go back to number one, I'm in 304 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,420 alignment with him and I can move forward. Whereas before it felt like a bunch of things, 305 00:21:10,420 --> 00:21:15,320 it was really just one and it's not as big as I thought it was. My thought when I was 306 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:21,560 listening to Jeff talk and then also hearing what you had to say was that some of those 307 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,200 questions, something immediately comes to mind. I could really easily jot that. For 308 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,200 me, I agreed. It felt like pretty deep. But then I thought if I kind of just, if I took 309 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,640 the things that immediately came to mind and I looked at it, then I could mentally, like 310 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,640 physically seeing it and knowing that I kind of pulled it out of the recesses of my mind, 311 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,200 that I put it there in the forefront, that I'm like, okay, this is one that is doable 312 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,960 now, or hey, that one, I'm not ready to tackle that. But I'm like acknowledging that I realize 313 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,120 that it's there. I'll tackle that later. But it's like Christ-like characteristics. 314 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:58,020 Like when you're working on one, other ones follow. I'm feeling, and you've watched people 315 00:21:58,020 --> 00:22:02,860 through experience, maybe when they pick one that seems achievable, the other ones don't 316 00:22:02,860 --> 00:22:03,860 seem so overwhelming. 317 00:22:03,860 --> 00:22:07,600 Totally. Totally. Or there's, like you said, simultaneously working on all of the things 318 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,560 together, even though your focus can be on what you can tackle. 319 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Yes. 320 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,560 Awesome. 321 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,000 Right. I just went through this two weeks ago with one of my clients. He leads a really 322 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,440 large company. I guess large is relative. It's over a billion dollars in revenue. 323 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,440 That's large to me. That's the word I use. 324 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,000 It's a global business. They have lots of employees. We went through just these preparatory 325 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:36,200 questions and he goes, oh, crap. I go, what? He goes, you've been talking to me about this 326 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:41,920 particular relationship and that I need to actually do the work to heal it. It's time. 327 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,840 And I said, okay, if you're ready and willing, let's do it. And he said, okay. So we set 328 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:52,360 a specific coaching session in two days to tackle that one relationship. 329 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:53,360 Amazing. 330 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,080 And through inspired questions, we'll go through some things because he knows that's the one 331 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,440 thing that's holding him back on certain areas. Okay. So when we purge that past and create 332 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,440 that place... 333 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,160 I better pause you though. We've mentioned a few times, sometimes when you recognize 334 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,840 that a relationship does need some healing or there needs to be some peacemaking in your 335 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,400 life, you don't get to dictate what the other person on the other side of that relationship 336 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,420 does. Just verbalizing, you know that there's discord there and acknowledging you're willing 337 00:23:18,420 --> 00:23:21,520 to do something about it. Sometimes it's the only thing you do. 338 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,520 Do you find that with him? 339 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,520 100%. 340 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,520 It's like you're not going to watch the resolve of the relationship. 341 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,520 It's in two days. 342 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,480 He knows the question is how am I a part of the problem? 343 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,480 Exactly. 344 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,320 How am I contributing versus why they're the issue? 345 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,320 Love it. 346 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:38,360 And for a while he's been pointing the finger literally and figuratively and now he's realizing, 347 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:40,320 let me point the finger right back to me. 348 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,080 What is within my control? 349 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,080 What can I change about me? 350 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,080 Love that. 351 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Totally. 352 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,000 That's a strong, like just strongly emphasize that as you're looking back at the past year, 353 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,760 if you find that a lot of the things that you bring up were things that were done to 354 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,680 you, then you're really giving your life to somebody else. You're not letting somebody 355 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,240 else dictate what your last year held. I don't love that. 356 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,720 Right. And as President Elson says, never ever give anybody your agency. 357 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,360 That power. Yeah, your agency. 358 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:10,540 It's yours. Do not, and we abdicate it subconsciously all the time, but it's like, no, this is mine 359 00:24:10,540 --> 00:24:13,400 to choose. This is mine to create and I will go do it. 360 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,760 Okay. So once you get through those first two steps, you can see why they're critical. 361 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:17,760 Yes. 362 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,760 Because a lot of times what people do is they jump to step three, which is the book. 363 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,800 It's great, but I saw the book and I was like, it's great. And we got to do some prep stuff 364 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,680 because otherwise this can be a cool rah-rah thing that will fizzle in about 20 days. 365 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,680 Amen. 366 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,160 But if you do some of the spiritual work behind it, it has long lasting work. So then there's 367 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,400 10 questions that you answer thoughtfully. You go through them. I'm just going to read 368 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,440 through them. I think it's helpful. So question number one, and there's a reason why this 369 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:49,120 is first. What were your biggest achievements in 2024 for this year, you know, or last year? 370 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:54,280 You start with the positive. You start with things that start to wake up your brain. And 371 00:24:54,280 --> 00:25:00,400 when you focus on gratitude, on excitement, on joy, you literally unlock your prefrontal 372 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,360 lobes and your prefrontal lobes are very executive functioning. They're over that part of your 373 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:09,920 brain, which is all about creativity, problem solving. Whereas the amygdala and brainstem 374 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,840 are all about worry and stress. And often we're stuck there. So you hijack your brain 375 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,560 by saying, what am I, what happened? Go look back at your calendar. Yep. You'll go, Oh 376 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,600 my gosh, I can't believe this was this year. Yep. Write that down. That was so cool. Open 377 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,900 your photos, just scan backwards. Yes. Get the visual juices flowing. Then the next one, 378 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:35,680 it's my favorite question of all of them. What were my magic moments of 2024? The magic 379 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:41,280 moment is the moment where when you're there, you just go, all is right in the world. I 380 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,400 can't believe this is my life. I can't believe my son just came and just hugged me for no 381 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:53,880 reason. I feel like I'm not failing. Woo hoo, great. Or this last year for Sherry's birthday, 382 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,680 she served in Barcelona on her mission and we were able to go back after 25 years. And 383 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,280 on her birthday, we were able to overlook the entire city of Barcelona in this amazing 384 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,280 restaurant that a friend of ours booked for us and just asked ourselves some life-changing 385 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,320 questions and we just went. Like this is my life. Yeah. I can't believe it. That was one 386 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:19,280 of the greatest magic moments of my life, let alone last year. So that when you start 387 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,480 with those two and you relive them, you're just, you are swimming in gratitude. You're 388 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,720 swimming in reflection. You're all about, wow, this is awesome. So those are the first 389 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:34,080 two. Then what roles did you play? And this can get confusing for some. So roles for me 390 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:40,040 are son of God, brother of Jesus Christ, loving husband, loving father, a business owner, 391 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,500 an athlete, a friend, a brother, a son. And so those are roles, right? So everybody has 392 00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:51,300 different roles and you can just jot down what are the roles that I've played and some 393 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:55,680 of those roles you like and some you don't. It's okay. What are the roles? You list them. 394 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,560 Then you go to some of the stuff where our brain is naturally inclined to go. What were 395 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:05,440 my disappointments? List them. And some people like to skip this, but I think there's power 396 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:11,480 in just saying, man, what didn't go well? What were my plans that didn't go so great? 397 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,760 And my first one is my father-in-law's passing. Man, was that a disappointment. That was not 398 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,240 at all what we were planning. He was, I mean, not that you ever planned that, but he was 399 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,880 super healthy, didn't have any issues and just in one day literally went to the grocery 400 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:32,960 store to get some stuff for his wife and collapsed at the cashier. Done, right? And talk about 401 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,080 a disappointment. Really, really tough. But then the next question, what were your lessons 402 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,600 learned? And the lesson, the number one lesson I learned in 2024 was the plan of salvation 403 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:52,260 is a hundred percent real. It's not just something to make us feel good or have hope because 404 00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:59,000 this is a really dark and dreary and depressing world. It's legit. It is tangible and the 405 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:05,160 Lord knows it perfectly. And when Sherri and I got to experience it by losing her dad this 406 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:16,520 year to feel his spirit live on, to feel eternal progression become tangibly real for us, it 407 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:22,320 was the most remarkable experience to go, wow, I love this plan and I love the Lord. 408 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,760 And I love that he is so merciful to have conquered death to where it doesn't have the 409 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,280 sting. It's still stung, but not an everlasting sting to where it's going to totally wreck 410 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,280 us. Right? 411 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,360 Danielle Pletka Amy and I are prepping our next conference 412 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:41,480 talks and I've got the one, mortality works. And that's just popping in my mind. I'm so 413 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:48,000 excited to share that because it's afterlife experiences and knowing like having nods from 414 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,040 heaven that it was all worth it and all worked and they still get to be present in your life 415 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,040 is touching. 416 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,040 Right. It's awesome. 417 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,080 So that's great. But even like you were just mentioning, even some of the worst pieces 418 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:04,720 of 2024 because your frontal lobe is open and your mentality is just different. 419 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,720 Totally. Totally. 420 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,720 You can look at it as a sad moment, but that you've already learned something from it. 421 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,200 And when we don't want to review disappointments slash failures, it's because of our two deepest 422 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:22,120 fears of humankind, our fear of failure and our fear of not being enough. And so sometimes 423 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,600 when we review what didn't go well, it pushes that emotional button and we just want to 424 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,160 go, la la la la, move away from that. And it's like, no, no, no. What do you learn from 425 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,840 it? It's not failure. It's just a new thing to learn. Yeah. I'm going back to disappointments 426 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,840 and lesson learned. 427 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,760 I will say I briefly looked through it. I haven't done the exercise for myself just 428 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:47,560 because the idea of this podcast was cooked up like just a few moments ago. But I said, 429 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,080 do you have to really sit and reflect on the disappointments? And you guys both said, no, 430 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,440 you really do have to. And I'm glad we're having this conversation so that we can talk 431 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,240 about how important it is to not avoid that part of the process. 432 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,440 And it's because we get to learn from them, not because the disappointments and failures 433 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,960 are defining who we are. No. And again, that exacerbates the insecurity that we have or 434 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,240 the fear that we have. Just let it be and go, okay, what did I learn from that? Why 435 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,180 did the Lord give that opportunity for me? And now what will I change and do because 436 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:22,800 of that? They're the best learning lessons. Success is the worst teacher. Failure and 437 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,840 disappointment is the best. It's true. 438 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840 That's why I've learned so much. 439 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,780 Okay, we'll go through the next six a little faster. What are the most important roles 440 00:30:32,780 --> 00:30:37,600 that I'm going to play this coming year? And what are my top three goals for each? 441 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,180 And this is quick pause on that roles for the future. Do you feel like you do a little 442 00:30:41,180 --> 00:30:45,440 bit of looking at the roles you played in 2024 and you mentally scratch out the ones 443 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,320 you don't want to carry on in? Sure. Kind of purging that or ones that you've neglected 444 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,400 that you want to 445 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,300 re-up your game on. Okay. Yeah. And so it's just being very clear and intentional. Who 446 00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:59,440 am I going to be in the world this year? And how am I going to show up in each of those 447 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,340 roles versus just doing what most humans do and just put it on autopilot? Because life 448 00:31:04,340 --> 00:31:08,720 is hard and what we do is just do our best to survive. And we're just kind of like, all 449 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,240 right, well, let's kind of see where things take me instead of intentionally creating 450 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,240 the future. 451 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,120 And every year there is something that could be added or subtracted as far as a role goes. 452 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,080 Like for you, you're a father-in-law now. That wasn't the year before. We're podcasters. 453 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,200 I mean, that's just one thing that we added, you know, little things like that. 454 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,200 Right. Right. It's awesome. 455 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,200 You need to add that. 456 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:33,520 Yeah, I do. I totally do. Yeah. Totally do. So then the next step, question seven, what 457 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:39,000 are the top three goals for each role? And that can get overwhelming. That's where people 458 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,560 are like, I just chose one. Totally. And so what I recommend on that is if that works 459 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:50,320 for you, cool. If not, find the one. What I do, even for me on this, I'm like, ah, no, 460 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,440 I don't really like that. And as you can see, I haven't even answered that one yet because 461 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,720 it gets overwhelming for my brain as well. So what I've learned is, yeah, what are the 462 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,600 things that would be nice? But then the next question I really like, what are my overall 463 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,360 goals for this year? And it might come from that. So I see that as a preparatory step 464 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,000 for question eight, which is what are my overall goal, overall top three to five goals for 465 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,800 2025? I recommend no more than three. Love it. There's something about the magic of three 466 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:22,420 that our brains can remember. We can not feel overwhelmed. If you're one of those go-getters 467 00:32:22,420 --> 00:32:26,720 who likes to have a list of a hundred things, go for it. Love it. Love it. And yeah, there 468 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:32,880 you go. I have my list of goals and then my first paragraph is my intention is to, this 469 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,720 is a financial thing. So I'm not going to get into that, but I feel like that's definitely 470 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,520 a step that I would suggest people really chew on because if they can't decide what 471 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,340 actions they would take in that role that they were having, it's possibly because it's 472 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:53,320 been neglected too long. I don't know. I think there's something, I'm going to have to spend 473 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,840 some time on that. I don't think that I want to put like three to five things, but let's 474 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,680 say like top goal as a wife, what's my goal as a wife for my husband to feel like the 475 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,280 most important relationship of my life? That's easy for you to say. As a mother, that each 476 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:12,640 of my children can in a safe place grow their ambitions and goals. Okay. That's easy enough. 477 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:18,080 So then like maybe I'll say like church calling would come to mind. Anyway, I'm just thinking, 478 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:23,160 I'm thinking the ones that easily come to mind, it tells me I want to focus. I want 479 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,080 those roles to be the big ones and then I'll have to let the spirit just fuse on me or 480 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,480 just still on me. Okay, that's a role. You shouldn't have picked that one up. It was 481 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,680 good that you tried it out, but like your growth isn't going to happen there. If I can't 482 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,520 think of a tangible trackable goal there and it doesn't have to be writing it down, I'm 483 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,220 just saying if I can't really project like what value it's going to bring to 2025, he's 484 00:33:43,220 --> 00:33:48,800 giving me an opportunity to not. Right. Also for me, Abby, when I was listening to that, 485 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,640 I said I chose one. I was for my brain, I was like too much overload, but I wanted to 486 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,220 put something down. And so I felt the spirit tutor me in that moment. And it was like, 487 00:33:58,220 --> 00:34:03,480 if you're looking at all of these goals, what are the, what are the traits you need to have 488 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,480 over across the board? So I wrote down authenticity and being humble. If I'm humble and teachable 489 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,160 in each one of my roles, then I'm kind of leaving the door open for teach me what I 490 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,080 need to know. Heavenly father, like as I come back to it, love it. Totally. Okay. Last two, 491 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,500 what daily rituals do you need to commit to in 2025 to enable your top goals? That's about 492 00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:28,520 habit creation and atomic habits. It's a great one. Others that you realize goals are all 493 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,840 about who you're becoming through habits, not about this lofty random thing that's in 494 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,360 the future. Are my actions today in line with the future that I want to create tomorrow? 495 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,240 And this question nine helps with that. Then the last question, what do I need to stop 496 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:46,080 doing? Again, creating space. What do I need to stop doing to do? Cause a lot of times 497 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,080 we just add, add, add without removing. And it's important to do that. Okay. So that's 498 00:34:51,080 --> 00:35:00,080 step three. Then the last step is nine. That was the 10 questions in step three. Yeah. 499 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,960 That's why if you have the having funny, it'll be a lot easier to follow. Now going back 500 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,360 to the first page of step four, this is when you print and place your top three to five 501 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:15,080 goals in a visual place. And the elder Ballard was one of the masters of goal setting. He 502 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,760 was so good. If you study his talks and how he, what he shared and preached my gospel, 503 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,960 he was a master at goal setting. And he figured out a few things. He figured out specificity 504 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:31,020 and visualization. Love it. The clearer and simpler the goal, the better. And the more 505 00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:37,020 you can envision and see that future person through some type of art through a creator 506 00:35:37,020 --> 00:35:42,580 and with AI now it's easier than ever. Like actually create the person you want to become. 507 00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:48,720 If you want to have six pack, six pack abs, go actually Photoshop yourself or do AI with 508 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:53,260 your face, with your six pack. Seriously, the more you can visualize it, the better. 509 00:35:53,260 --> 00:35:58,440 And like this says here, see these goals every morning and every night, visualize what that 510 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,720 looks like because out of sight, out of mind, insight in mind. Where we fail a lot in goals 511 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:09,240 is we get excited and then we just kind of peter off because we get distracted and life 512 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:15,240 gets hard. And that's why I recommend don't do too many. One to three goals, great thing 513 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:20,760 to do in my opinion. Again, that's what works for me. Whatever works for you, do that. But 514 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,400 these four steps, I'm a big believer in and I've seen CEOs change their lives. 515 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,360 And Jesus Christ into the process really ties into like what Amy's sharing that you put, 516 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,520 you kind of purge, put what on the paper that you can and then you ask him to help you with 517 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,960 eyes of discernment to see what rises to the top, what things, if I focus on those couple 518 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,520 of things will be, make me the person at the end of 2025 that I could only dream of. 519 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,520 Love it. 520 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,880 And that's it. I think we've gone on longer than most of your podcast episodes. I apologize 521 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,880 for that. 522 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,880 How long is this? Has it been too long? 523 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,880 Yeah, it's been long. 524 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,960 Well, I'm glad that you've been here with us. Thank you so much. The things you shared 525 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,600 were awesome. I loved doing this yesterday with, because we did it as kind of an extended 526 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,280 family, my kids were happy to do it with cousins and they sat down and did their own thing 527 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,200 and it was wonderful. So thank you for sharing this. I really appreciate that. 528 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,200 My pleasure. 529 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,580 Thank you guys for the time that you spent with us in 2024. We hope that you can like 530 00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:25,680 look back on some of the conference talks and really let the best goals, the best action 531 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:32,120 items that you've been achieving rise to the top and carry those with you into 2025. And 532 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,040 I'm just excited for this year. I think it's going to be the best. 533 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,040 Happy new year. 534 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,040 Happy new year. 535 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,040 Happy new year. 536 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,040 Happy new year. 537 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:50,240 Happy new year.