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Welcome to Closer to Christ through General Conference, where two friends who love Jesus

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share our own approach to studying the most recent General Conference talks.

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This is Abbey and Amy.

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Let's jump into it.

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Today we get to discuss holiness to the Lord in everyday life by Elder Garrett W. Gong,

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Quorum of the Twelve. And I love this because obviously it nods to the temple. The verbiage

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is above temple doors, but more so how He's going to make that everyday life. You're not

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in the temple every day, but you can still have those temple promises.

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So good, Abbey.

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Ours is the gospel of joy and holiness in everyday life. Holiness sets things apart

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for sacred purposes, but holiness also invites us to infuse daily living with the sacred,

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to rejoice in daily bread amidst the world's thistles and thorns, to walk with the Lord.

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We must become holy for He is holy and to help us become holy, the Lord invites us to

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walk with Him. Elder Gong shared story after story of people who are living with daily

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holiness to the Lord. And I love that from the perspective of an apostle when they bring

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these awesome stories to the, like, you know that they're experiencing neat things. And

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then when we get a little glimpse of some of the beautiful things that they're seeing

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around the world.

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Around the world, right? Yes, that was my thought.

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It touches my heart. He then tells us that we are going to live the seven seas. Come

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union with God, community and compassion with each other, commitment and covenant with God,

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family and friends centered in Jesus Christ. That was number seven.

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Yes. So he goes on to talk about stories of everyday holiness to the Lord. So the first

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one, holiness to the Lord in everyday life looks like two faithful young adults married

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for a year, sharing with authenticity and vulnerability gospel covenant sacrifice and

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service in their unfolding lives. The first one was the wife. She tells us about the challenges

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in her nursing classes and feeling very alone in her beliefs and also socially because she

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was the only one that was married. The rest of this class was single. This is what she

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says.

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The past, this past semester, I learned how to better my belief, sorry, how to better

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voice my beliefs and be a good gospel example. My knowledge and testimony grew because I

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was tested in my ability to stand alone and be strong in what I believe. I love this because

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I can see how that would be definitely be something to learn. Okay. To learn from in

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just everyday life. Abby and I have talked about this and just us, you know, doing the

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podcast, we feel like there are lots of hours that we have put in that have helped us better

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voice our beliefs and I have seen the benefits of it in my life.

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Well, and two, like if I'm just in the community or having a conversation, I'm like, this is

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a great conversation. They, you know, we could have a nice conversation together, but I don't

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want to like overimpose on them. I can just say like, I've been able to say, oh, I have

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a podcast about that. And then I'll just quickly share the link with them. Then it's their

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choice. They want to listen to it. If they were like, no, I was done with that conversation.

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They don't have to listen to it, but they totally can. That's great. You were saying

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that. Two things come to mind on that. My husband, he did a master's degree a few years

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back and very different dynamic than his fellow classmates. What their priorities were and

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what their, let's say, political leanings were, their ideologies. And so like a few

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things like Adam would set ground rules with his professors. He had to interact on, what

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do you call that? Like when you make a comment and the people have to comment on your comments

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on an online platform, that's called something. I'll think of it when I'm listening back,

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I'll be like, oh yeah, it's that. But anyway, he would say, I don't do schoolwork on Sundays,

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like dedicating that time to my family because life was stretched thin and like, he could

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have certainly used the time on Sundays to do it, but he made a choice that he didn't

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want to. And so he's like, I'll take the point deductions because you had to make a comment

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and then you had to respond to other people. And a lot of the students would wait till

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like Saturday to get on. So then their interaction with each other happened on Sunday. And so

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he just said upfront, I'm not trying to disrespect you and not fulfill the assignment, but I'm

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only able to comment on anybody that's posted by Saturday night at midnight. And if they

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haven't, then I'll just take the point deduction. Most of the time he got, you know, blessed

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with a couple of people to respond to and that worked fine. Sometimes he didn't, never

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received a point deduction for that. It was great. And then definitely in the discussion

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platforms, it was like, he definitely was definitely a different voice than like your

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normal young college student. Like we'd lived some life and we'd had some hard blows and

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like we're at a different place in life. So this idealistic, you know, what my professor

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said goes and this is, this is truth. You know, he's kind of, he has to politely, respectfully.

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It often came with a religious undertone because he teaches for us and I, and like the degree

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was to further him in that career. So like a lot of that would be infused. His daily

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life was spent teaching the gospel. Then when he comes home and he's trying to do

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schoolwork, that's in there. But I liked how she said it in a respectful way to voice their

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beliefs. And then I also thought of my two sisters, my two of my sisters were married

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to doctors still through the residency and stuff. They were married, they were having

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children and it was such a contrast with a lot who think just going to get the school

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piece done and then I'll commit to marriage, maybe commit to family or whatever. It made

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them very, very unique in their circumstances. And they weren't dealing with easy things

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like, I mean, you know, like bringing Ollie in and his heart things like, you know, they

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could have been easier for him if they hadn't gone that route. But I think they had the

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opportunity to like really strengthen their testimony of family. And I think in the end,

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it really did help with their schooling pursuits and things. Holiness to the Lord in everyday

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life looks like a young returning missionary who learned to let God prevail in his life.

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This missionary is asked to give a blessing to someone who's very sick. His first thoughts

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like, oh, he didn't know if he had the faith and he would bless him to recover. The missionary

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says, I learned in that moment to pray not for what I wanted, but for what the Lord knew

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the person needed. He blessed him with comfort and peace. And the man later passed away peacefully.

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So kind of watching your will align with the Lord's will in a matter of moments within

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a priesthood blessing.

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That's true. In real time, right? Like he went in thinking, I have the faith, I'm going

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to, you know, this will turn out great.

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We're going to heal them, we're going to set up.

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He puts his hand on his head and probably was like, oh, that's not where this is going.

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If this doesn't feel like the words need to say, then you always feel guilty. Like, is

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it my will that he's dying? Like, no, it's just aligning my will with his and saying.

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You're just recognizing.

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Yeah, the words, then I think that there must be some comfort in that when he's like, no,

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I did listen to the prompting of the Spirit. Let's offer you what you need in this moment

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because it's actually peace and comfort, not rejuvenation and longer life.

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In this scenario.

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Right. In this scenario, your body is done.

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So the third one he talks about is, he said, a sister does her best each day after her

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husband was unfaithful to her and also the children. I deeply admire her and others like

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her. One day while folding laundry, her hand on a stack of garments, she sighed to herself,

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what's the point? She felt a tender voice reassure her or assure her your covenants

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are with me. And here again, Abby, here we are again. I'm guessing that every person

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listening has at one time felt a similar question, either asking the Lord, what's the point?

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Or is this gospel living producing what I'm hoping for? Right. Is there hope for me in

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my specific situation? And when I read this, my favorite is that the Lord refocused her

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attention on him and his covenantal love has said. So I looked up a couple of things as

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far as what President Nelson has taught us about this word. He said, once we make a covenant

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with God, we leave neutral ground forever. God will not abandon his relationship with

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those who have forged such a bond with him. In fact, all those who have made a covenant

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with God have access to a special kind of love and mercy. In the Hebrew language, that

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covenantal love is called hesed. And he said, once you and I have made a covenant with God,

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our relationship with him becomes much closer than before our covenant. Now we are bound

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together. And this is the part I believe God was telling this woman. He was reminding her

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and really each one of us listening here who has ever asked, what's the point? Or is there

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hope for me? Again, President Nelson is speaking directly to those who make and keep covenants.

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He says, because of our covenant with God, he will never tire in his efforts to help

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us and we will never exhaust his merciful patience with us. We've talked about that

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before. Like, is this the last time I can ask her?

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He reminds us. And I love it because we've said that before and this is actually the

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prophet reminding us. We will never exhaust his merciful patience with us. Each of us

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has a special place in God's heart and he has high hopes for us. And that was from a

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special love and mercy in the Liahona from President Nelson.

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I love that you found that. And I love when it sparks. How did you find that extra additional

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I looked up hesed, President Nelson.

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I love it when I go on like on a rabbit hole and then I'm like, I find these little gems.

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Yeah, you're like, hey, we've kind of quoted that but we didn't know where it was from.

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A girl, another example that he shared was about a girl in a family of boys who struggled

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to feel good enough for her father, which was sad. Then she talked about her mother

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passing away, which could have made the relationship more difficult because she tended to be their

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buffer, the translator, kind of the only sliver of relationship that the girl and her father

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had. And then the daughter relates that one day she'd heard a voice say, invite your dad

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to the temple, take him to the temple with you. And so then they started going to the

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temple twice a month and their father daughter relationship completely changed, it was strengthened

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and she was even able to verbalize to her dad that she loved him. He reciprocated that

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love. She said, spending time in the house of the Lord has healed us. My mom could not

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help us on earth. It took her being on the other side of the veil to help mend what was

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broken. The temple completed our journey to wholeness as an eternal family. I would say

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that her mom probably is still with her and the father and helping strengthen that, especially

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as they're in the temple. And what a neat thing to know that our efforts, they continue

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on in the next life.

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Yes. And especially when, I mean, that must have been like she felt like the rug was pulled

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off around her when her mom passed away. And then to think that it even-

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Assumed in her mind like that, that's it. It's over.

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That's the last thread of hope to have this relationship with dad.

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And then to have it actually be healed by going to the temple. And I'm sure that her

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mom had a hand in that and I just love that she was able to help her.

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What I also like is that she didn't desire for that relationship to be severed. She did

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want a stronger relationship rather than being willing to give up on it because she knew

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that their family bond was meant to be an eternal bond, even though it wasn't feeling

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strong in this time and this moment. So I'm thinking that she was kind of carrying this

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like heaviness and a desire. So she was expressing that she had this desire because she was doing

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that, that opened her up to the revelation that she would get.

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It was as simple as inviting to temple because also she was exhibiting that the temple mattered

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to her and she was attending the temple. That wasn't like a stretch for her to be like,

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well, she hasn't been attending the temple. Let's get her to the temple and see if she

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can get some inspiration while she's there. She's already obviously regularly a temple

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attender and maybe her father was too with the mom. Now that mom's gone, there's a void

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there for him and it just seems like the right opportunity. And then dad buys in because

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he says yes to the invitation and commits to it.

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I love that.

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Everybody's buying in. So how could we each infuse our daily lives with holiness or, yeah,

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is that a good question? How do we each infuse our daily lives with holiness?

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So one of my first thoughts was to be where the Lord is. That is in scripture, in prayer,

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in the temple. He talks about, I mean, of course, like you talked about at the beginning,

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holiness to the Lord is what is above our temple doors.

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And it's making a statement that what we're about to do is set apart for a sacred purpose

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that can be over the temple door. I just went to a lady's house and she's got it on a cute

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little sign above her home door. She's inviting that same message to prevail that what's going

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to be happening in their home, this is a place set aside for sacred things. So yes, your

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list of things is perfect. Scripture, prayer, temple, sacrament meetings where we're renewing

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our baptismal covenants. Are you finding that as you're studying general conference talks?

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I totally am.

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Same, like putting the effort in, I'm like, this is paying off way more than ever before.

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It is.

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Because it's where I'm spending my time right now.

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And it's also, when I studied general conference talks, it is infusing my everyday life with

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holiness. And it's setting apart, like you said, setting apart just, I don't know, the

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questions I've had and just the other things I feel like when I read general conference

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talks and put them in the questions to practice, it's essentially like proving the Lord, I

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guess.

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Then I've been seeing leaps and bounds of growth.

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Same, and then I would just say same thing when I'm in my Come Follow Me study for the

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If I happen to have listened to a conference talk, or I've listened to a podcast on something

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and I'm doing my Come Follow Me and listening to my scriptures, all of those things tie

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together and I think, how could it so magically go together? Which really isn't the case.

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It's that the thing that I'm needing to learn is impressed upon me by the Spirit. I'm having

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revelatory moments.

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In layers.

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Yeah, like all of those little parts and pieces, I can see like, oh, all of that helps come

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to this understanding. I've got this ability to make better choices in my day because I'm

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filling my mind with potential quick answers to things that I've maybe been pondering on

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for a long time.

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I love that, Abby. So it's been a few years now, but back during COVID, we started doing

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a meditation together where it was just understanding that, you know what, that's part of pondering.

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There's the search, which is reading the scriptures. There's the ponder part where you're thinking

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about questions and you're being in a very quiet place with the Lord.

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And giving time for it to like ruminate.

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It's true. I had not made time for quietness in my life before that.

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Here's my question. Where's the answer? I'm going to bed. He doesn't like that so much.

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Well, it doesn't give him much time to work with. It's true.

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My latest email is I get my best answers in the morning, so I'll go to bed on a question.

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I'm like, don't have to answer me now.

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Love it.

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I'm ready for it. And then I wake up in the morning, whatever hours, and I'm like, oh,

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that's good stuff.

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It's the same. I like things that percolate a bit.

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That's what it's doing.

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That's so great. So these are my thoughts. So the first one was be where the Lord is

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or essentially seek the Lord. The next one is invite the Lord to where you are, wherever

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you are in the daily, right?

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This is such a good part. This is such a good suggestion because we're always, I mean, if

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we're saying like we're making time for the temple and we're in there, that's the Lord's

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time and we have gone to where he is. But I feel like multiple talks have given us this

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beautiful idea that it doesn't have to rest there alone, that that has to be your only

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place of sanctuary. We can bring him into the dishwashing and the laundry, the sweeping

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and mopping of the floors, the driving kids to activities, the waiting in line at the

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grocery store. What I'm summarizing is daily tasks.

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Right. Right. And when we bring the Lord into any of those daily tasks, like for example,

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I'm doing laundry, I'm listening to scripture, it turns that task into being holy because

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holiness sets things apart for a sacred purpose. So it's just so interesting that you can set

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laundry aside, set that apart for a sacred purpose. I've never thought of that before.

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I have thought of that. You know why? No, yeah, no, just recently, mostly recently because

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I'm like the second I mentioned laundry, my children scatter like cockroaches. So it's

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like, I think of all of the time, if I'm getting ready for the day, like my bathroom space

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is not private space. My bedroom is not private space. No room in the house that's private

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space but the laundry room. Oh, I love that.

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It really is. It's sacred because nobody wants to do laundry. So I'm like, I'm going to go

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for laundry. Who wants to help me? I got the place to myself and I usually put on something

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to listen to, podcast, scriptures, come follow me for the week, whatever. It's my time. I

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love that. That's great. That is so great. So I have a friend, her name is Maria, and

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I love the way that she's very intentional about this. She has a photo of a different

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child or a different family member, husband included, in each zone of her home. So when

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she's there cleaning or doing dishes or doing the laundry, she thinks on that child, the

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needs that are around that and praise for them specifically. I think that is such a

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great way to turn anything that you're doing as a mother or someone who's caring after

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a home or whatever, to turn that time into setting that apart for a sacred purpose.

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I love that. And then I'm thinking, you know, I don't do that, but I'm thinking, what do

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I do? I have proclamations to the family or an article to faith, pictures of Christ, my

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family pictures. They're scattered through my house and they're kind of meant to be on

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central pieces. I've got them fixed on central walls. I think it's for that same purpose,

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so that it reminds me why I'm doing the things in my home that I'm doing for those special

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purposes. Also, when we're thinking about prayer, you know, amidst the tasks that we're

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doing, they're like drawn out prayers rather than like breakfast, lunch, dinner, or morning

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prayers, night prayers, that you kind of open a prayer and you're carrying it with you in

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these tasks that you're having. Love that. That invites the Lord into the things that

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you're just naturally going about your day doing.

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An open-ended prayer. I love that. That's so good, Abby. Okay, so there was one other

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thing. Do you remember when he talked about just as far as the temple goes, having the

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holiness to the Lord on the top and how it is a sacred place? He talked about it's a

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sacred place for members of the church and also he said for our friends. He talked about

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some friends that he had in Bangkok that were clearly not members of our faith. And when

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they walked in for an open house, they were exclaiming things like at the baptismal font,

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like you know, it makes me want to be clean and never sin again. And someone else said,

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can you feel the power in this place? So I just thought that was wonderful that it doesn't

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matter who you are. There is something inside of us that recognizes truth and recognizes

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our Creator. And just-

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I can add my testimony to that. We did the Oran temple open house one morning and then

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we had hotel rooms down in St. George because their open house also coordinated. So we hit

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two at once and didn't quite know where to park and we didn't actually have tickets for

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the Oran one. We had the day set for the St. George trip and we're like, well, we're going

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to be down here anyway. Let's go halfway and make this happen. So we go, we see these people

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are kind of also lost. And so we kind of help them get to where we need to depart to the

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bus situation that they were doing. They end up not speaking a lick of English. And so

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we decided, we were able to like use Google translate and we were speaking Chinese to

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each other and coordinating between the two.

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Go you.

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Well, it was very difficult. I'm like, I mean, I wish I could speak Chinese in this moment,

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but I really couldn't. But we're having our little conversation and like that was the

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message that they brought. Like everybody's smiling, everybody's so happy. And you could

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just see that they just really enjoyed their time in there and the peace that they were

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filling. So like, yeah, we don't even have to speak the same language, but the spirit

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can speak the same language and fill our hearts with that same piece. So I'm glad that I got

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to be reminded of that. It was cool. Let's see questions. Somebody might ponder on while

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they're listening to this talk.

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How do you infuse your daily life with holiness to the Lord? It's going to look different

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for every person and every season is going to look different.

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Consider the things that you have going on in a given day and what things you want to

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achieve and is there any opportunity to pair both? Like we know we have to do laundry,

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we know we'd like to listen to the scriptures. Can we do both simultaneously? Love it. Another

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question.

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What can you do this week to voice your beliefs in the gospel of Jesus Christ? And remember

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voice, to put a voice to something doesn't necessarily mean you have to speak it. You

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could write it. You could leave it behind in a journal for your posterity. You could

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have a conversation with a family member, sister, brother, friend, children, husband.

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It could be a social media thing. We'll let you decide that.

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Many options.

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All right. Wrap it up for us.

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All right. Holiness to the Lord makes living daily life sacred. It draws us closer and

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happier to the Lord and each other and prepares us to live with God, our Father, Jesus Christ

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and our loved ones. Again, Abby, he ends with the triangle, right? Where he says it draws

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us closer and happier to the Lord and each other. It's like when we're on that triangle,

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when you're at the bottom, if we're both getting closer to the Lord, we're also getting

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closer to each other. And I think that is a beautiful thing. We'll leave you with that.

