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Welcome to Closer to Christ through General Conference, where two friends who love Jesus

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share our own approach to studying the most recent General Conference talks.

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This is Abbey and Amy.

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Let's jump into it.

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Today we're discussing the talk, The Wind Did Never Cease to Blow by Elder Alaraldo

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B. Cavalcanti of the Seventy.

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So Abbey, just the title alone, I really, really love that because we're in that part

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of the Book of Mormon right now.

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So he starts by saying, and we're going to jump into that in just a second, but he starts

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out his talk by talking about, in 2015, 62 members of the J. Ruben Clark Law Society

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partnered with the State Prosecutor's Office in Pernambuco, Brazil, sorry about that, to

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address the legal challenges of elderly residents in four different nursing homes.

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It took over five hours of interviews with over 200 residents who'd been largely forgotten

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by society.

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They uncovered cases of abandonment, mistreatment, and financial exploitation, leading to charges

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being filed against the offenders.

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Then he ties it to this active service embodied King Benjamin's teaching that serving others

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is serving God.

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Though the resident struggles weren't fully resolved, the event reminded them of their

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worth in God's eyes.

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Like Amy said, if you're listening to the podcast pretty close to the release date that

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we put them out, then you too have been taking a deep dive into these chapters in the ether

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that tell about the rise and fall of the Jaredite people.

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But definitely the beginning of their story starts with people that are covenant confident,

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they're enjoying the blessings of following Jesus Christ.

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I think it would be useful in a Relief Society lesson, because we're in a Book of Mormon

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cycle this year, to give the sisters, brothers a chance to discuss the lessons that they're

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learning from this Jaredite story.

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We would agree.

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It's full of symbolism.

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Symbolism of enduring trials and relying on the Lord, similar to the challenges that we

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face in our day.

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So I'll ask you that question.

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What symbolism have you drawn in your study of ether this year or previous years?

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Okay, so I really liked it this week.

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It was so cute.

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When we were doing a scripture study at night and he was in seminary that day and we were

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just kind of talking back and forth and he said, you know, can I take this?

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Can I ask questions?

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You know, like what do the barges represent?

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What do the stones represent?

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And it was just kind of fun to see him, you know, do that.

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As far as the barges, Abby, we know they were tight, like under a dish, like it says in

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Ether 6-7.

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They were designed to withstand the mountain waves of the sea.

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And then their construction teaches us that our lives, when fortified by faith and obedience

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to God's commandments, can endure life storms.

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Now the second one would be that I would think of as the stones.

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The glowing stones provided light in the barges, symbolizing the constant presence and guidance

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of Jesus Christ, even in moments of darkness.

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Just as the stones illuminated their journey, Christ's light can guide and comfort us in

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our struggles all throughout our lives.

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I love that.

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And this year in particular, I loved how my studies had me focusing on the idea that the

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brother of Jared is the one that came up with the solution to his problem.

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He decided on the stones being the path that he would try to get light.

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And he worked those stones, he made them shiny and clear as glass.

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The best chance of getting light is possible, but that still wasn't enough.

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And then he presented that to the Lord, who was then able to touch them and give the light

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that he was seeking for his family.

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And what a noble thing.

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They don't know how long they're going to be on this journey.

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And they certainly don't want to do that in the darkness.

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And this was a beautiful answer to something that was deep in his heart.

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So I loved the idea of doing the best that we can, presenting it to the Lord, and then

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Him consecrating our efforts, magnifying them, and then making them perfect.

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I love that too, Abby.

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Like the loaves and fishes.

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Okay, so now the winds, which this talk talks about.

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The winds, as the record says, the Lord caused that there should be a furious wind blow upon

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the face of the water towards the promised land.

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That's in Ether 6.5.

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While these winds created hardship, they were also divinely directed to push the Jaredites

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toward their destination, which is kind of what hardship does in our lives pretty much.

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It's hardship, but the Lord can consecrate it.

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The Lord knows where those winds, those trials are designed to direct us.

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For sure.

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And all things work together for those that love God.

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The trials and challenges we face in this life can act as these winds pushing us closer

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to Christ and our eternal goals when we trust in His guidance.

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That's the key right there.

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So the winds, as the talk is titled, that never cease to blow for the Jaredites, very

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much parallel modern trials that we feel.

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Sometimes it's just relentless.

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We don't feel like we get a break from the hard things that we're dealing with.

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However, just as those winds were essential for progress, our challenges often are what's

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refining us and bringing us closer to God.

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The Jaredites had no control over the winds or the waves.

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They had to completely trust in the Lord.

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So that's the lesson that we're learning from them in our own lives.

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If we completely trust in the Lord, we may not be able to control the circumstances around

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us.

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But if we know and believe that Jesus Christ came for us, that He atoned for us, that His

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grace and guidance can, again, lead us back to our Heavenly Father.

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So I think we'd all agree, it's a great thing to study.

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It's a great thing to come back to time and time again because it really does mirror the

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spiritual journey that we're on ourselves.

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And the winds might seem like a challenging thing, but really without the winds, they

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literally would have just sat on those barges and gone nowhere.

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Seriously.

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Also, I think a lot of times of the 344 days they were on the ocean.

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But they didn't know it was going to be 344.

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I was just going to say that.

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How would you feel on day maybe 10, maybe 50, maybe 100?

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I can't take this anymore.

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And then what if on day 343 you were like, that's it, I'm done.

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You didn't know you had one more day.

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Anyone can do something for one day.

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Well, mostly, right?

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And I can't think of exactly what verse it was, but it talked about them singing songs

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of rejoicing.

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You know, mid-journey.

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That's pretty impressive.

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They really entered those ships of prepared people.

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And a consecrated people.

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I agree, Abby.

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This is where he reminds us of the trials the nursing home residents were facing and

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referenced a man whom he called to be a counselor in the bishopric.

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That was a funny story.

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I know, right?

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Mr. Sunglasses.

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Who many misjudged because he wore his sunglasses and they didn't see his face.

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And then he explains that we can be the wind that did never cease to blow, bringing hope

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in guiding others to the covenant path.

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So a little twist on the story.

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I don't think I've ever heard of somebody talking about the winds as not being the trials

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in our lives.

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So we started a lesson.

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We would kind of see where the brothers or sisters that were maybe teaching or discussing

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this talk with, you know, take the idea of that, the winds never did cease to blow.

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But I do like this, let's call it a twist on how to consider the winds.

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I think he could have made that same application though.

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We can be part of, what he's going to talk about is how we can propel people.

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We can be a soft, gentle gust to help direct people on the covenant path when they're undergoing

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trials.

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But I was thinking like we could really consider our small part in helping people fortify their

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barges.

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If we see in our children, people that we rub shoulders with, maybe kind of a leaky

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part of their vessel and we know that it doesn't seem like that big of a deal.

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It's just a small leak.

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But that if a real trial were to come their way, that could accumulate to something that

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could sink them.

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It can sink you, yeah.

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If you can see that in somebody and you know, you might have been put on their path to point

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out, hey, you know, maybe that's inviting them to the temple with you.

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Maybe that's bringing them along to mutual activity or something.

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So being somebody that magnifies the light of Christ, you know, that's the way light

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can be shared.

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It doesn't take away from you to be able to share light.

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So it's not like handing somebody your own stones, but it's like if you have something

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good to share about our Savior Jesus Christ and then you bear that testimony, that in

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its way is sharing light with others.

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And then we talked about the wins.

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We may consider it as trials, but we may look at it as helping push people along in subtle,

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small ways in helping them.

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You know, Abby, it is an interesting idea to think of the small and simple things we

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do for others to give them that forward momentum toward God.

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I always like when I'm asked to do small and simple things.

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Not big.

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Not the big ones.

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Labor, laborious.

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We can act as instruments in God's hands to help others progress toward His blessings.

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Okay, so how can we serve as humble gust of wind in the Lord's hands?

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This is where he spends a lot of time talking about efforts as missionaries.

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And so I think he had some good points on that.

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So I think we should kind of go over what he said.

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He quoted President Russell M. Nelson, who made an exciting and inspiring invitation

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to the youth, saying, I reaffirm strongly that the Lord has asked each worthy, able

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young man to prepare for and serve a mission.

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Every day thousands of young men and women answer the Lord's prophetic call by serving

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as missionaries.

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And I was thinking the little small and simple miracles that missionaries witness over their

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time in service, they really get a chance to see that it doesn't take much to recognize

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that God's involved in the details of our lives.

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When you knock a certain street, make a certain contact, sit on the bus by somebody, you can

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recognize that as a coincidence, or you can see that it's God's miracle in putting somebody

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in your path that was really prepared for the message that you have to share.

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For sure, Abby.

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What else did he share was cute?

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Oh, he said this, choosing to be a missionary does not mean that you will be the best version

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of yourself the moment you step foot in the missionary training center.

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I think a lot of missionaries go with the best of intentions, but the person that walks

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off the plane is a very different version than the person that walked on the plane.

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And then the Lord, He's happy with, you know-

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Because there was lots of wind.

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Yeah, whatever you have.

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Yes, we'd be lying if we didn't say missions, we'd be the hardest time of your life for

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sure.

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Up to that point.

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Up to that point.

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He reminded us that the prophet Jeremiah was insecure, saying, I cannot speak for I am

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a child, so you might feel that way.

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Like I don't even know what I'm going to say to people, but the Lord consecrated Jeremiah's

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efforts and he was able to speak.

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You might be like Moses, oh my Lord, I am not eloquent, but I am slow as speech and

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of a slow tongue.

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It would be very natural for you to have any one of these doubts yourself, but you can

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find comfort that the Lord has answered.

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Say not I am a child for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee.

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Any promises therefore go and I will be with thee.

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I will be thy mouth and I will teach thee what thou shalt say.

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And I've seen missionary after missionary testify of that, the words that they're speaking

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are from themselves.

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It's definitely, they're definitely just being an instrument and propelling people.

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Agreed, agreed.

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I like how he really isolated the purpose of a missionary or to say that in a different

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way, what a mission can do for a missionary.

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So quoting this, your transformation from your natural to spiritual self will occur

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line upon line, precept upon precept, as you earnestly strive to serve Jesus Christ in

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the mission field through, and then he says daily repentance, faith, exact obedience and

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hard work to find constantly teach repentance and baptize converts.

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And then he says, though you are a name tag, sometimes you may feel unrecognized or forgotten.

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However, you must know that you have a perfect heavenly father who knows you personally and

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a savior who loves you.

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You will have mission leaders who despite their imperfections will serve you as the

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wind that did never cease to blow in guiding you along your journey of personal conversion.

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So again, just talking to the missionaries, and then this is really good in the way that

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he does in a way demystify a mission.

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I know when I went, I didn't really have a lot of information.

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I just knew that quote, it was the best two years or for me a year and a half and that

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my brothers and sisters had all gone before me and that it was really hard.

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And they cried a lot when they got my sisters cried when they get off the plane.

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But I mean, I just like that he's saying these things like, I feel like we are preparing

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our missionaries in a better way and in more ways, like emotionally and mentally.

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That is also part of the mission because guess what, it's part of your body that means you

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carry it with you.

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Like that's going to be there too.

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You don't leave your mental capacities and your challenges behind you.

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It all goes.

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So I like that he is talking about this part.

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Love that.

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I love that he kind of sets the expectation to say, obviously we should prepare for our

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missions, but fully expect that a lot of the learning and lessons are going to happen in

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real time on that mission.

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You can never anticipate all of the things that are going to happen.

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And I feel like having not served a mission, I feel like you can get lessons.

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You can get some of those lessons that missionaries get, but I've personally witnessed 18 year

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old boys, 19 year old women come home in a year and a half.

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Obviously day after day, they're experiencing things that it's maybe taken me quite a few

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more years to do.

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And in fairness, I mean, it's 24 hours a day of service.

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You're always on.

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But you're really opening yourself up for tons of life lessons learned in that compact

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time.

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So good compensation for as hard as it is, it is also such a payoff.

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They will still remember it as some of the best times of their life.

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You know, missions, like you said, year and a half sisters, two years, maybe three if

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you're mission president or something like that.

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But what I liked as I was listening to this talk is thinking mission or no mission, you

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know, the lessons, I think he really wants us to think about the lessons that we can

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learn on them about ministering.

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Understanding that this friend you're in contact with or this friend, they all need kind of

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something specific.

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They need a specific experience that's going to help them remember the plan of salvation

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they'd been introduced to before they came to earth.

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And then kind of a light goes off as they recognize like, oh, that is truth.

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And I know that to be true.

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What's this going to take?

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It's going to take some covenant making.

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But I think the best missionaries come home, the best ministers for the rest of their life.

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It's not just like I've done this time and now it's done.

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They can take those lessons and then apply it in their ministering efforts.

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And so I thought that's like part of being the wind that never did cease to blow.

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When we recognize people that we have assignments over or when we're looking kind of outside

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of that, we can really try to pinpoint those who are unrecognized or forgotten.

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He talked about that.

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Yes, he did.

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Because sometimes they're sitting in there and to the point that they're immobilized

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and they don't really know which direction to go, they're looking for a person to help

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direct them in their paths.

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And so I would say it's not often huge assignments, ones that you get a lot of recognition for.

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Sometimes he just asks you to reach out to his children.

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And we talked about small and simple ways, especially when we let the spirit be part

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of that decision on what we can do for that person.

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I always like when he gives me an impression to do something for somebody that's small

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and simple because it comes across big to them.

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They're really happy that you reached out on a birthday or that you thought to sit by

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somebody or that's not a huge thing, but it doesn't take much to be recognized.

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Right.

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Especially if they were wishing for that thing or hoping for it.

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You know, needing a little extra something, then it is a big deal when it's exactly what

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they needed.

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So looking again, he talks about the forgotten ones.

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So looking for the forgotten ones in our wards, but maybe more importantly in our general

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surroundings, in our communities, in our neighborhoods.

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Though some may wait a long time for relief, for they have no man that can help them, the

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Lord Jesus Christ has taught us that no one is ever forgotten by Him.

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On the contrary, He was a perfect example of seeking out the one in every moment of

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His mortal ministry.

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Abby, I think it's awesome that you're doing a tie, you know, tying quilts tomorrow.

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I noticed that you haven't just invited people from the ward, but it's also from the community

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and there'll be lots of people there helping.

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So I think that's going to be a good thing.

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Looking forward to that.

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It's good to have something to invite people to because it's always nice to get together,

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like to have multiple little events and try to make sure that you reach all your friends

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is difficult.

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This one's kind of like a cheater way to be like, hey, your friend, let's eat some pie,

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let's make some quilts.

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And I'm looking forward to friends and friends and friends.

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I'm hoping friends are friends.

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I'm hoping there are people that I don't know yet that I'll get to know.

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I was thinking, it wasn't really mentioned in this talk, but I think it would come up

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if we were discussing this in a Relay Society about the work that we're doing in our homes

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as being the opportunity to be propelling gusting winds or whatever, teaching our children

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to love and trust Heavenly Father and trust our Savior Jesus Christ.

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Little moments every day can be just subtle gusts of tailwinds.

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So I was thinking, what opportunities are we taking with Come Follow Me?

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Are we doing family home evening?

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Are we having family councils?

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Do we take the time to have family dinners?

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Are there projects we're working on together?

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Do we do service together?

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Can we attend the temple?

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All of these things I see as directional tailwinds.

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Families do for each other what's difficult to accomplish just on our own.

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And if we aren't providing a healthy foundation in the relationships in our homes, then I

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feel like it just opens up those little spirits that we were trusted with to let something

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else direct them.

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Maybe like a much higher chance of the adversary capturing them when the difficulties and

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the winds of life are crashing down.

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That's true.

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I guess the winds caused the waves and the waves crashed down.

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But you know what I'm saying.

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All of it works together.

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Yes.

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Also, when you said families do for each other what is difficult to accomplish on our own,

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that is exactly why we're in family units.

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You know what I mean?

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It's not necessarily a school or whatever.

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A method of disbursement.

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Yes.

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For the Lord to show us that when you're in constant contact with people, you tend to

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get to know them quicker.

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And also things that are a little bit difficult tend to come out or whatever, but you really

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learn how to deal with the things of life.

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So yeah, that is perfect.

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That is where our best work is being done right now is moms.

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And if you don't have the opportunity to, maybe you weren't sent to a strong family

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unit like that, like you're navigating these things on your own, you'll maybe reflect on

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your life.

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What people did you surround yourself that provided that safety net for you?

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Or did you not have the opportunity to have that guidance and it is easy for you to see

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you were tossed and turned about the things that life had to offer, really hit you like

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a ton of bricks until you found the gospel of Jesus Christ that's given you the direction

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that you need.

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About the Abbey.

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I've seen a lot of people listening to this and thinking of the scenario that they have

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for themselves and like, yeah, that's where I'm at on this and that would have been nice

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or oh, I can make this adaption and consider the things that I'm doing to be like not just

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monotonous and mundane, but important in helping those that are ourselves and those that are

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around us.

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Yes.

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I love that, Abby.

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What do you have for us for an action item?

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Probably just reiterate what we talked about when you're considering the winds that never

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did cease to blow, maybe you think of those as the trials that you've experienced in your

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life or kind of anticipate that there's going to be more and whether you have taken those

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as growing opportunities or whether you will allow those to be growing opportunities for

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yourself to get you closer to your heavenly father.

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And then I think I would add to that because the talk really wanted to make this focus

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when others are facing their own storms and trials, what guiding hand might you be able

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to offer to give them the momentum towards God that they could use in that time of need?

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That's awesome, Abby.

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Thank you.

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So this was a short and sweet one, but again, we hope that you kind of reflect on what's

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come to your heart as you've studied the Jaredites.

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It's good stuff.

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It's a good life lesson.

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Yes, it's a good life lesson.

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And I think we can all do our parts and pieces to help in this.

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So that's it for today.

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Thanks for being with us.

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Catch you in the next one.

