1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,800 Welcome to Closer to Christ Through Conference, where two friends share our own approach to 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,800 studying conference. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,800 Hey, Abby, how are you? 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:13,800 I'm good. 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,800 Hey, Amy. 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,800 Hi, guys. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,100 We're so happy you're here with us today. 8 00:00:17,100 --> 00:00:21,840 We are nearing the end of this, and we're looking forward to October conference. 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:27,200 Today we're going to talk about Call Don't Fall, and it's by Elder Taylor G. Godoy. 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:32,040 Now just for a summary, Elder Godoy acknowledges that we live in a world of uncertainty, pain, 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,840 disappointment, and heartbreak, and we might feel inclined to rely more on personal abilities 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,800 and preferences, as well as the knowledge and security that come from the world. 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Now he says that this could cause us to put in the background the real source of succor 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,480 and support that can counter the challenges of this life. 15 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:55,800 He'll make the point that it should come as our last resort to call on him in prayer, 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,440 because the one we are praying to knows us and knows how to answer in a very perfect 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,440 and personalized way. 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,400 Abby, let's jump in. 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,400 Let's do it. 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,400 I love this talk. 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,360 He spent some time in a hospital, and he sees this sign that says, Call Don't Fall. 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,680 It's in places all around the hospital, repeated so many times, so many places. 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,360 And even when the light goes off, there's a shining light on the ceiling that says, 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,360 Call Don't Fall. 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,360 And then I heard that. 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,400 Do you remember Barbara Thompson's talk called Mind the Gap? 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,400 Yes. 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,400 And it had an impact on me. 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,840 And so I was like, how long ago was that? 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,800 It was so many years ago. 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,440 Like I wrote it down somewhere. 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,040 It's just 2009 here. 33 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,040 Yeah, it was. 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,040 Okay. 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,040 Where did I put that? 36 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,040 I don't know, but I read it. 37 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,040 Awesome. 38 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,040 Yes, I love that. 39 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Because I was like, that came to mind so clearly. 40 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,240 And then when I looked up how long ago it was, I was like, when you make a catchy phrase 41 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,520 like that, then it sticks with you. 42 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,560 The only problem is that Mind the Gap related to like instances when you have like a subway 43 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,560 system. 44 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Right, in the UK, that's what they say. 45 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,520 There's a gap there. 46 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,240 And so Mind the Gap, like anytime that you're going to be riding a subway, which for some 47 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,120 people would be just a daily experience, that would be a great message. 48 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,440 I'm like, well, I don't really ride subways a lot. 49 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,760 So it's not something that I've got to really think a lot on. 50 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,080 But it was still so catchy that I remembered it from so many years before. 51 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:18,440 So this one resonated with me because I spend quite a bit of time around hospitals and hospitals. 52 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,960 And so I thought it's going to be great. 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Like, I'm sure that I'll see it soon and I'll be like, oh, that's a great little message. 54 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,720 And furthermore, like going forward. 55 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,320 So I mean, the fall rates, that's a big deal in the hospital systems. 56 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,400 I do some volunteer work at the hospital here. 57 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,920 And I know that they even track this for the government. 58 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:43,080 They have to tell how many falls happen on our hospital premises monthly. 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,840 And we're doing risk assessments for people if they're elderly or on certain medications 60 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,080 or they've had a surgery, like you know that their fall risk is going to be higher. 61 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:57,960 And so, yeah, just like Elder Godoy is mentioning, we pay a lot of attention to something that 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,360 we care a ton about too. 63 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:08,920 So I love how he helps us take this call them fall message and he thinks of a way to link 64 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:10,080 that to a gospel principle. 65 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,080 Okay. 66 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,480 So how does Elder Godoy link this message to the prayer? 67 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,960 It seems like that was the overarching thing. 68 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,280 It was definitely a talk on prayer, which is definitely not the first one we've seen 69 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,840 in this conference, right? 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,840 No. 71 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,400 So he talks about how pain in life can come in lots of ways. 72 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,360 Physical pain, sometimes it's caused by others, sometimes it's our own choices on and on. 73 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:36,640 But when we rely on our Savior and we pray to our Heavenly Father through our Savior, 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Jesus Christ, we have been promised that when we ask, it shall be given. 75 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,720 When we seek, we shall find, when we knock or call, and kind of took some license with 76 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,440 that word, it shall be opened unto us. 77 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,440 Prayer is the mean of communications with our Heavenly Father that allows us to call 78 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,240 and not fall. 79 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:04,800 So just to reiterate, like especially after you had a surgery or something, you're not 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,440 real safe to just hop up and get out of bed and just do whatever. 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,680 And so they're really asking you to rely on people around you, push that call button and 82 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,240 protect yourself from getting further hurt. 83 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,240 You're already injured. 84 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,680 You've repaired an injury maybe with the surgery, but you're not in the best shape. 85 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:22,680 You're not feeling great. 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,120 And so then if you fall trying to get out of bed and do something on your own, then 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,080 you're just adding to that injury. 88 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,360 You're having an insult to injury. 89 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,600 So imagine if you're in the hospital and you push the call button and the nurse doesn't 90 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,280 immediately run into the room. 91 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:40,160 Would it be a good idea to hop out of bed and take care of your own needs yourself? 92 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,160 Still no. 93 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,800 Still no. 94 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:52,240 So it's just a reminder to us as we see that sign, as we think on this, that it's important 95 00:04:52,240 --> 00:05:00,120 to make that first step and reach out and make that call, but then don't immediately 96 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,560 jump into a situation that's going to cause more problem and harm. 97 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,360 Like stop and reflect and decide which direction I'm going to go. 98 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,360 So good. 99 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,240 I love that. 100 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,720 When circumstances in which we might think that the call hasn't been heard because we 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:21,040 didn't receive an immediate response or one according to our expectations, that's I think 102 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:29,320 when we steer off the path, when we potentially cause more harm to ourselves. 103 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,800 Also when we have our own idea of what it should look like. 104 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,640 So we miss everything, right? 105 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,640 Like it says, according to our expectations. 106 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,280 Like we put a prayer out there, but we're like, he's going to have to answer it this 107 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:42,280 way for me to be satisfied. 108 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:46,240 I'm sure I've done that in my own life. 109 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:52,800 So I like how Elder Godoy likens the Book of Mormon and Nephi on this process of building 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:06:00,040 a ship, just the same way that it was like a matter of finding the ore and making the 111 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,360 tools and then just one thing after the next to do something that he's never done before. 112 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,780 He didn't lay out this whole grand plan. 113 00:06:07,780 --> 00:06:09,480 He did one thing at a time. 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,160 We do things line upon line. 115 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,840 He tutors us line upon line. 116 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:17,040 And too often we want to know the full picture. 117 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,320 We want to know the answer right from the beginning. 118 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,440 And so it leads us to anxiety and sadness and disappointment. 119 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,200 But Nephi is a perfect example for us to refer back to time and time again on what it looks 120 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,240 like to have faith in the Lord. 121 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,080 Nephi's response in this situation is, how is it that he cannot instruct me that I should 122 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,080 build a ship? 123 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,680 Now I ask you, how is it the Lord cannot instruct you that you do not fall? 124 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,680 And they love it. 125 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:47,600 It just is a matter of being patient enough to know that those answers are going to come 126 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,600 line upon line. 127 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,600 Right. 128 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,320 A little slower than maybe our earthly. 129 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,320 I think it's always slower. 130 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,440 Yeah, our earthly bodies are happy to accept. 131 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,720 I agree with that. 132 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,920 Accepting God's answers implies accepting that his ways are not our ways and that all 133 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,440 things must come to pass in their time. 134 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,440 It's hard to get on his timeline. 135 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,440 It is. 136 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,380 But I've always found that his timeline is the best when it's all said and done. 137 00:07:11,380 --> 00:07:14,200 He has a better idea of when the right time is. 138 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,200 In hindsight, yeah. 139 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,200 It's so true. 140 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,840 And then also in hindsight, it really isn't that long. 141 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,840 Even if it feels like it. 142 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,880 If I want something in 30 seconds and it takes a minute, I'm like, man, that's twice as long 143 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,280 as I wanted to, but in the end of the day, I'm like, well, it's only a minute. 144 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,400 When I say a minute, I'm talking maybe weeks and years that some prayers have been answered. 145 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:39,200 But all I'm saying is I've really tried to remind myself he's not answering my prayer. 146 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,400 He's answering it in his way and his time. 147 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,320 And it's better than my way and my time. 148 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,320 Yes. 149 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,680 And also things need to happen in the interim. 150 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,560 Imagine if we take a step back and look at us as parents, what if for Lucy or one of 151 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,960 your kids who's very, very young, you just keep handing them things. 152 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,400 First they get a lollipop and then they get a scooter and then two minutes later you give 153 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,400 them a horse. 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,880 You know what I mean? 155 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,880 That's not how it works. 156 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,680 That's not the natural thing. 157 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,920 She would need to learn things. 158 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,720 She would need to grow and experience. 159 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,840 And those things are probably best happening years apart. 160 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,040 Absolutely. 161 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,960 That's a good analogy. 162 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,520 Ways and God's answers implies that accepting that his ways are not our ways and that all 163 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,760 things must come to pass in their time. 164 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,880 I wanted to repeat that just because I thought that's something to definitely sit and think 165 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,880 on. 166 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,520 His timeline is the best timeline. 167 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:39,920 Once we acknowledge that we accept that truth, I do feel like it has a way of making the 168 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,760 weight in between answers to things not really feel so burdensome. 169 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:44,760 Agreed. 170 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:50,200 I feel like too, this just came to my mind, but like a daily affirmation type of thing 171 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,280 when you're reading your scriptures or you're washing the dishes or whatever, but just to 172 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,080 say out loud, God is answering my prayers. 173 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,080 It's happening. 174 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,360 The spirit told me the same thing in the same moment. 175 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,360 Stop. 176 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,360 Yes. 177 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:06,360 Because what I said was when I pray for something, I said, it's as good as it's happened. 178 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Exactly. 179 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,560 It's as good as done. 180 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:13,120 I don't know when, but I'm totally fine waiting for whenever he says that it's a good time. 181 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,080 Thanks for that thing. 182 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,840 When I hear somebody be like, he doesn't hear me, doesn't answer me, I'm like, he's answering. 183 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:26,400 It's just not in your timeline, but it's never not an answer. 184 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,400 That's how I feel, Abby. 185 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,400 I'm getting there. 186 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,400 We're getting there. 187 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,400 We are getting there. 188 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Okay. 189 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,000 We've talked a lot about the nature of God. 190 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,280 It's something that you've studied. 191 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,200 It's something that I'm trying to be more aware of as I'm studying these talks also 192 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:43,760 because you reminded me the prophets asked us to do this thing and it's making a difference. 193 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,680 But knowing the nature of God, how can we be certain that he will answer us when we 194 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:49,680 call? 195 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:55,760 Well, experiences in smaller things that don't have a lot of eternal bearing, like a lot 196 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,800 of weight on them, is a good way that he shows us, like he demonstrates that he can answer 197 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,800 things. 198 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,800 Love that. 199 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,800 It's a principle. 200 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:04,800 It's a principle. 201 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:10,920 And the more of those little experiences that we gather in our lifetime, the more ability 202 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,680 that we have to trust him. 203 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:15,120 And that kind of goes back to the talk that you have. 204 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,840 He's not let me down before. 205 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:17,840 Why would he let me down? 206 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:18,840 Right. 207 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:19,840 And if I build him a ship, right? 208 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,840 Yeah. 209 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,480 If he show me how to build a ship, then why would he not deliver me for my brother and 210 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,520 when they want to kill me, when we finally get there? 211 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Yep. 212 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,720 Providing a way for him to get the plates. 213 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,160 Oh yeah. 214 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,120 Having some wives ready for them to get there. 215 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,560 Like lots of little faith promoting steps to make him sure that the Lord will fulfill 216 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:40,280 his promises to him. 217 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,400 And I'm gathering those in my own life. 218 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,400 Right. 219 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,400 We all have those, right? 220 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,440 I love that Abby. 221 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,920 This kind of ties like the way the pillars and rights talk that Elder Dushku taught us. 222 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:56,400 It's like if we can create this, it doesn't have to necessarily be a list, but if we can 223 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:02,000 have this attitude of just being able to easily gather like some of the low lying fruit, some 224 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,080 of the memories that we have of like, oh, P answer me in this little way and this little 225 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,960 way and this little way, then we kind of put those into a nice little ball, like a ball. 226 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,800 And we say, okay, this is a bigger thing, but I still know he's going to answer it. 227 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,240 Because it's a bigger thing, I can accept that it's maybe going to take a little bit 228 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,240 longer. 229 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,240 Yep. 230 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Love that. 231 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:24,280 So I loved, I bolded this part of the talk. 232 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,120 The certainty of knowing that we are children of a loving and merciful heavenly father should 233 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,600 be the motivation to call and devout prayer with an attitude of praying always and not 234 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,680 fainting. 235 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:36,840 That our performance may be for the welfare of our souls. 236 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Bolded this. 237 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,520 In the fillings of heavenly father, when in each prayer we make a supplication in the 238 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,920 name of his son, Jesus Christ, what power and tenderness I believe are displayed when 239 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,400 we do so. 240 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,520 Such a good, such a good mental picture. 241 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,360 I love it. 242 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,360 Yes. 243 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:57,400 So we did talk about the example we get from Nephi in the scriptures. 244 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:03,320 I love that we have multiple scripture accounts. 245 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,320 Agreed. 246 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Abraham to Moses to Helaman, they all call on him and they're certainly sustained from 247 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,880 their individual trials that they're going through. 248 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,040 Elder Godoy shared a personal experience from like 30 years earlier. 249 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,600 I love this one. 250 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,280 And he learned with certainty that the Lord hears his prayers. 251 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,280 Do you want to summarize that? 252 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,280 I will. 253 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,440 He's got good genetics because he doesn't even look 30. 254 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,000 And this was 30 years ago that you got married. 255 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,600 I'm like, how old were you when you got married? 256 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:33,600 Doesn't matter. 257 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,600 It's business. 258 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:35,600 Okay. 259 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,600 I love this story. 260 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,160 Should we like, let's talk about it. 261 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,160 Okay. 262 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,480 So it was 30 years before and he and his wife, they live in Peru. 263 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,640 And so it's pretty standard to marry civilly and then you get to make arrangements for 264 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:48,680 your temple marriage. 265 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:54,440 And so they had that like figured out, lined out and come to find out they weren't going 266 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,600 to be able to get their licenses for their civil marriages because of a strike. 267 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,080 And this comes just three days before their ceremony. 268 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,080 So it's really going to throw things off. 269 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,920 And they felt distressed and doubtful that they would even get married as planned. 270 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,680 So they're like kind of reconfiguring their life, what they're going to do. 271 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:13,600 So they follow his advice. 272 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,240 They call instead of following, he and his fiance both pour out their souls to God in 273 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,240 prayer. 274 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,880 And then they hear from somebody that there's a small town on the outskirts of the city 275 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,520 where an acquaintance was the mayor. 276 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,520 So they don't even hesitate. 277 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,000 They pack up, they move over to that town. 278 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:36,280 Let's make it legal to get the license there. 279 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,720 But they would have to get the certificate in that specific city and then get the documents 280 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,720 to them. 281 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,880 And the deadline was noon the next day. 282 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,960 It's way tight schedule. 283 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,680 But then, I mean, obviously that's going to help them keep their three day plan. 284 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:49,680 Right? 285 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:53,160 So it's sad that it's tight space, but it is good in the way that it's going to keep 286 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,160 them on track. 287 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,080 Also, let's just take a quick moment. 288 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,400 They moved to this small town. 289 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,400 You can show up. 290 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,360 Yeah, this is showing serious dedication and not just like, Hey, Heavenly Father, help 291 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,360 us out here. 292 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,200 Like they were putting forth all the effort. 293 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,240 I hope they were living a real minimalist life. 294 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,240 We're talking like a few Tupperwares of things because I was like overwhelmed thinking about 295 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,240 this. 296 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,000 They're not even had started their life together and they're making a move to another town 297 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,260 to make this happen. 298 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:25,640 So they go to this police station to request the documents that they need. 299 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,500 And the officer said that he's not going to give them to him. 300 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:32,440 Too many young couples have been running away from their families to get married secretly. 301 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:33,440 They weren't doing this. 302 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,440 They definitely had a plan. 303 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,920 There was nothing secret about it. 304 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,400 But again, you know, can't blame them for like just trying to keep things above board 305 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,400 in their town. 306 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,360 So it's natural sadness and fear starts overtaking them again. 307 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,560 So this time they're silently praying to their father so they won't fall. 308 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,740 He gets a clear impression to pull out his temple recommend. 309 00:14:52,740 --> 00:14:53,740 And so he does that. 310 00:14:53,740 --> 00:14:57,600 And the officer is like, his fiance is kind of like, what are you doing? 311 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,360 And the officer is like, hey, I know. 312 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Why don't you tell me you're a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 313 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,600 I know your church well. 314 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:04,640 What a neat thing. 315 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,600 All of the people that have encountered this man that have identified themselves or he's 316 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,020 asked them to know what a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is, kind 317 00:15:13,020 --> 00:15:14,800 of paved a pathway and set a standard. 318 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,800 Right. 319 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,800 Like before. 320 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,800 I love that. 321 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,960 And that it didn't look in any way like just like a quick elopement and without parents 322 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,960 permission. 323 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Like this gave him the confidence that recommend, made him recommended for more than just the 324 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:25,920 temple of the Lord. 325 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,760 And gave him some cred. 326 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,760 Yeah. 327 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Street cred. 328 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,760 He's like, I know your church well. 329 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,120 And so he starts preparing the documents. 330 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,120 Then he leaves the station. 331 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,720 50 minutes later, they're like inching along. 332 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:38,720 It's 1155. 333 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,200 Remember, they have like five minutes to get to where they need to go. 334 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,040 Guy comes back. 335 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,960 He's got the papers done, but he's also brought along a beautiful puppy as a wedding gift. 336 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,920 Do you remember hearing this wedding conference? 337 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,880 I died inside. 338 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,160 It's not even funny to me. 339 00:15:55,160 --> 00:16:02,120 That's like one of those I was like, oh, I would have like blood pulsing out of my eyeballs. 340 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,800 I'd be so angry about it. 341 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,000 As the story keeps going, find out this is a piece of the miracle. 342 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,760 But in the moment I was like, oh, just bite your tongue. 343 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Just accept that gift. 344 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,040 There must have been a feeling of peace that accompanied it. 345 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,040 Like he didn't. 346 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,040 Oh shoot. 347 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,040 But it's like, how am I going to get there? 348 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,040 Yeah. 349 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,200 So anyway, they have to run obviously. 350 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,200 Five minutes with the puppy. 351 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,560 They see the official's vehicle coming towards them. 352 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,720 The officials already left the office. 353 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,680 As the vehicle stopped, they see the secretary and she's like, sorry, I told you you had 354 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,840 to tell me and I have to go on another errand. 355 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:41,280 And then this is his words, I humbled myself in silence, calling with all my heart to my 356 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,280 heavenly father. 357 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,600 So we can see multiple prayers along the way, multiple communication. 358 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,160 I think it's giving him a minute to like, you know, what the next move is going to be. 359 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,600 What's the next move going to be and then feeling peace in the things that he decides. 360 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,680 So he says a silent prayer, asking for help again to not fall. 361 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,160 And then he says this, suddenly the miracle happened. 362 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,320 The secretary says, what a beautiful dog. 363 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,600 Where could I find one like that for my son? 364 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,640 So this is where I wanted to stop because I highlighted that. 365 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,280 I want to suggest that this isn't where the miracle happened. 366 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,280 Do you agree? 367 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,280 I agree. 368 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,520 I think if we look at this story piece by piece, that the miracle happened way before 369 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,520 this moment. 370 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,000 The miracle happened when the friend told them about the town on the outskirts that 371 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,680 was issuing licenses. 372 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,080 I think that the miracle happened when he heard the impression to reveal his temple 373 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,280 recommend. 374 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,840 I think the miracle happened when, man, he got that dog. 375 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,640 That was pretty lucky. 376 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:43,960 And just these small things all kind of accumulated until we get to the end of the story that 377 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,960 goes like this. 378 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,320 He says to the lady, this is for you. 379 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,840 The secretary looked at us with surprise. 380 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,360 Okay, let's go to the office, make the arrangements. 381 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,760 And two days later, he and his wife were married civilly as planned. 382 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,400 They were sealed in the Lima Pru temple. 383 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,440 And I love that. 384 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:07,720 So it's awesome that this experience gave him the opportunity to see that the Lord will 385 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:15,840 fulfill his promise to give them we ask, find when we seek and open to us when we knock. 386 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,200 I love that, Abby. 387 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,920 So really quick, you know, suddenly the miracle happened, just like you said, that's not when 388 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:21,920 the miracle happened. 389 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:27,120 I think a better phrase would be suddenly I realized it was all a miracle. 390 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:28,120 You know what I mean? 391 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:31,080 Because that's the moment he realized why the heck do I have this dog? 392 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,080 It's his story. 393 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,080 He's totally allowed to say it however he wants. 394 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,640 But we've all been there, right? 395 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,500 It's like that's when we realized, oh, this is a bigger picture. 396 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:39,560 Things are coming together. 397 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,560 And now I know it's a miracle. 398 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,560 Yes. 399 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,680 And that's the message for us to take home that it's like the there are so many pieces 400 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,840 to miracles happening when the full thing doesn't just manifest like right in front 401 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:53,840 of your face. 402 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,440 It's because the little things are happening in the background. 403 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,120 And it's so cool when you stop and you take a second to record something like this that 404 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:04,360 you can see his hand so much more involved and integrated. 405 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:07,720 And the Holy Ghost brings to your remembrance little things that happens and makes like 406 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,240 perfect connections where you're like you might not have even seen everything before. 407 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,800 So I love that part too. 408 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:18,480 I love how this talk emphasizes the point that prayer is a matter of faith. 409 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,640 How do you view prayer as a matter of faith things? 410 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:26,520 So even just in this story, I love this because he literally could have said, I felt so deeply 411 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,320 in my heart that this was going to come to pass. 412 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,080 I was going to be able to marry my fiance, who's now my wife, that I just sat in the 413 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,420 place where I got a blessing or what that I prayed or whatever. 414 00:19:35,420 --> 00:19:37,000 And I just knew it was going to happen. 415 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,160 He didn't say that. 416 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,580 He, multiple times you can see all the different things he did. 417 00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:44,320 He called the office, he tried several different things. 418 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,840 He moved to a new town, he got a dog, he ran this way and that, and he prayed along the 419 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:49,840 way. 420 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,280 I feel like that is what's most important. 421 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,000 We've heard before the Lord can't drive a parked car and I feel like he modeled that 422 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 perfectly. 423 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,140 Just a perfect little story that encompasses exactly how it works. 424 00:20:01,140 --> 00:20:04,840 We give all of our effort and we pray along the way. 425 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,760 As I was opening this talk, I was like, oh, I don't want to give the impression of, because 426 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,440 I was relating it in a hospital room. 427 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,680 You've just had a surgery and then you know that you're still coming off the anesthetic 428 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,680 or whatever. 429 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,680 So then if you push the call button, the nurse doesn't come racing in that you're going to 430 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,680 get up and you're going to help yourself. 431 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:27,400 It kind of contradicts the actual feeling of what the point of that was is allow the 432 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,520 nurse to come and assist and guide you as you know the next step is you still do need 433 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,560 to get out of bed, but you allow that assistance. 434 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,960 And so what this talk emphasizes for us is that there, like you said, there is the prayer. 435 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,280 That's the act of faith that you know that he's going to come through and he's going 436 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,880 to provide whatever we need to propel us and get us going in the next thing. 437 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,000 And us actively taking those steps, even if we don't know what the next one's going to 438 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,520 be after that, that peace that he must be filling as he's moving along, I think it calmed 439 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,080 like a storm in him as he's like, okay, we can't get the marriage license here. 440 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,080 Things on it for a second. 441 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,760 He's had said a quick little prayer and then he's impressed to pack up his belongings and 442 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,760 get to that town. 443 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,760 Right. 444 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,000 In there, the peace comes in the action. 445 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,320 He's like, yep, this is the right thing. 446 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,320 Maybe you would have started packing. 447 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,000 It's like, no, that's not what you should be doing. 448 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,280 You would have felt uneasy about that. 449 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,140 And he would have put the brakes on it. 450 00:21:13,140 --> 00:21:14,720 That wouldn't have been the next piece of his story. 451 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,720 Love that. 452 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Love that. 453 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,720 So it's just one piece at a time. 454 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,720 Right. 455 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,800 But the prayer itself was the initial act of faith that got him going in the right direction. 456 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,320 So Abby, what action items do you have for us as far as this talk goes? 457 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,220 It's going to still write from Elder Godoy. 458 00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:30,360 He gave us a few things. 459 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:33,800 He said, always think of the Lord as your first option for help. 460 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,480 What a smart thing. 461 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,840 Because even if you have a friend that's an expert in that, the Lord will help you recall 462 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,120 or come to mind which friend is the right one for that. 463 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:45,120 Oh yeah. 464 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:47,280 Also, the Lord knows all of the inner workings. 465 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,000 He knows like, it's like the inside of a watch or whatever. 466 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,040 He knows everything that's going on where the other person, they know their experience, 467 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,080 but he, the Lord knows you, your experience and all that's going on. 468 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,280 So yeah, he is the best. 469 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,840 The go-to guy. 470 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,160 Speed dial, number one. 471 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,640 Re-emphasize the name of the talk, call don't fall, turn to God in sincere prayer. 472 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,860 Then after praying, do all you can to obtain the blessings you prayed for. 473 00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:16,280 This is the take home that we pray. 474 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,440 We like let that feeling of peace distill over us. 475 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:26,080 We recall those times when he hasn't let us down before and we use that to propel confidence 476 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,080 in the actions that we're going to take next. 477 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Then we're going to humble ourselves to accept the answer in his time and his way. 478 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,000 That's a hard one to do. 479 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,400 We're trying to get better at that. 480 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,720 We're getting more successful in being patient knowing that he hasn't let us down so far. 481 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,680 We get lots of practice in it too. 482 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,680 So much practice. 483 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,080 Then he says, don't stop. 484 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,220 Keep moving forward on the covenant path while you wait for an answer. 485 00:22:48,220 --> 00:22:50,360 That was another thing about this talk. 486 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:54,080 Everything that he was doing was trying to get him to that civil marriage, to get him 487 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,040 to the temple, to make more covenants with Heavenly Father. 488 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:03,040 So of course he's going to be nothing but successful as he's moving directionally. 489 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Right. 490 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,240 And success just equals he got it done in the end. 491 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,080 It doesn't matter about all the roadblocks that happened in between, right? 492 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,720 So he ends this talk with the song, Did You Think To Pray? 493 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,240 And rather than repeating it, I do suggest taking the time to consider that as you listen 494 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,160 back to this talk. 495 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:28,120 Fine upon each line of that song does something for us, but I'm going to leave that to you 496 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:29,840 to listen to it. 497 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,080 And I think I'd just like to close with my testimony on prayer. 498 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,120 Maybe you want to close with your testimony on prayer too. 499 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:37,280 Whatever sounds good. 500 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:44,840 But I am finding the more time and effort that I put into it, the less that I tried 501 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,240 to do redundant, rote prayers. 502 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,280 The more personal that I make it, the more that I visualize my Father in heaven, the 503 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,600 more that I understand him and know that he wants to bless me with everything that he 504 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:59,640 can, gives me more confidence in the things that I'm praying for and more patience in 505 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,040 waiting for the right time for that to be answered, if it's like a bigger thing. 506 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:12,040 And also finding confidence in praying for those around me in my circles and those that 507 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,720 ask me to join with them in prayer. 508 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:22,400 I've seen the benefits of that unity in praying for others and I look forward to a blessing 509 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,520 that I received about that confidence that I'll have in prayer. 510 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,440 I think that's the blessing that everybody can have. 511 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,420 The more that we do it and the more that we recognize that we really are praying to somebody 512 00:24:32,420 --> 00:24:38,360 who really does have our best interest in mind, the better we'll be at calling rather 513 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,280 than falling going forward. 514 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,280 I love that, Abby. 515 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,720 I just want to share one quick thing. 516 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:52,400 This was back at the beginning of 2023 when the temple, what is the word? 517 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,400 The announcement? 518 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Oh, instructional video? 519 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,400 Yes, instructional video. 520 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,400 Thank you. 521 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:02,280 When that changed, I went and I watched and I listened and I cried all the way through 522 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:09,960 it and I loved how the instructional video incorporated more visuals of Jesus. 523 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:15,120 There were so many pictures of Him and I just felt very, very close to Jesus through the 524 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,200 whole thing and I loved it. 525 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,840 And then I also felt so close to Heavenly Father through the whole thing and I loved 526 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,220 it and I couldn't wait to get back home. 527 00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:25,360 This is funny, but I couldn't wait to get back home. 528 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:29,000 When I was praying to Heavenly Father, I said, Hey, I saw you today. 529 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,640 I felt of your spirit and I felt your spirit more deeply there. 530 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,800 I just couldn't wait to have that conversation. 531 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,880 That was more of a father-to-daughter conversation rather than one. 532 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:45,080 Sometimes I do prayers that are more formal, but I loved that. 533 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,840 There was just a feeling that I felt from Him of happiness. 534 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,280 I'm so glad you saw me there. 535 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Yeah, happiness and thank you for receiving me because I did put that out there and I'm 536 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,240 glad you picked it up. 537 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:03,200 I just really love Heavenly Father and I love prayer and it's truly a gift if we just receive 538 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,320 Him and receive all that He has to give us. 539 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,320 I love it. 540 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,320 All right. 541 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,320 Abby, thanks so much for this. 542 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,320 We will catch you guys later. 543 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,320 Catch you next time, guys. 544 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:39,320 Thank you.