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Welcome to Closer to Christ Through Conference, where two friends who love Jesus share their

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own approach to general conference.

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So today's talk is going to be Pray He Is There.

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This was done by President Susan H. Porter, general primary president, which was made

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obvious when she said she was speaking to the children, especially.

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Love that.

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The Spirit confirmed her she was supposed to be talking to the children.

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So let's recap the talk just by way of reminder if you haven't re-listened to that one just

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yet.

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I invite you to pray to know Heavenly Father is there.

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Pray to grow to become like him and pray to show his love to others.

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And she starts with, I want to talk to you about a very special gift that Heavenly Father

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has given to you to help you.

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It is the gift of prayer.

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What a blessing prayer is.

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We can talk to Heavenly Father anytime, anywhere.

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She definitely used simple, more childlike verbiage.

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But for me, right when I was listening to it just before we started filming again, I

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was like, my ears are always ready to listen when you're going to be talking to a child

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because it's a level that I'm totally ready for.

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Simplicity.

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And then also, because I'm in the midst of raising children, I'm like, how is she going

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to approach this important topic of prayer to introduce this?

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Your kids might be wild and crazy and doing Play-Doh and building Legos and eating their

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snacks and jumping off the wall.

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And then when she says, I'm going to talk to the children, maybe their ears perk up

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a little bit.

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And if anything, they get from conference in that moment, is this talk.

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Totally.

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Great foundation to talk about prayer.

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So she's going to talk about these three things.

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She's going to hit them pretty hard.

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And so the first one she talks about to pray to know.

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What did you think about that, Amy?

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So this is something that she said.

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When you know that Heavenly Father is real and that he loves you, you can live with courage

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and hope.

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Pray he is there, speak he is listening.

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Love that part.

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She referenced the song.

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President Nelson has invited you to pour out your heart to your Heavenly Father and then

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listen, which was in his 2018 talk.

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Listen to what you feel in your heart and to thoughts that come to your mind.

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And then in the footnote, this is the talk, President Nelson's talk, Revelation for the

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Church, Revelation for our lives.

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What will your seeking open for you?

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What wisdom do you lack?

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What do you feel an urgent need to know or understand?

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Follow the example of the Prophet Joseph.

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Find a quiet place where you can regularly go.

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Humble yourself before God.

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Pour out your heart to your Heavenly Father.

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Turn to him for answers and for comfort.

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And then I love this part.

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He says, he says, pray in the name of Jesus Christ about your concerns, your fears, your

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weaknesses.

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And then he says, yes, the very longings of your heart.

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And then listen, write the thoughts that come to your mind.

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Record your feelings and follow through with actions that you are prompted to take.

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As you repeat this process day after day, month after month, year after year, you will

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grow into the principle of revelation.

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This may have been before where it was spelled out so explicitly, like so step by step.

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It may have, but this is the time that really caught hold in my heart.

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And I took every bit of this and turned it into my own process.

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And it has absolutely changed my life.

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I love, love that he has that.

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Is there anything specific you can point out that like sort of a version of what you were

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doing and then what it's made you do?

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I actually think you already answered this.

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I totally have multiple times.

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Well, in the last episode, just in the very last episode, when you recognize that it was

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an impression by the prophet to grow your own testimony, that that was done by trial

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and through experiences, but through prayer.

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Yes.

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And you know, I just feel like too, that he said it in a specific way when he said, um,

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you know, all the things you can talk about, your concerns, your fears, your weaknesses,

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the longings of your heart.

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And this is the part I love.

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He said, and then listen, write the thoughts that come to your mind because it may have

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been said a different way.

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And it didn't click with my mind in my heart that the thoughts that came to my mind were

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the answer to the prayer.

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I thought it might have to be a certain way or feel a certain way or hear a, you know,

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a voice.

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But he said, write the thoughts that come to your heart after you've prayed, after

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you found a quiet place, after you've been humble.

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It just like, I just feel like he, for me, almost spiritually created this beautiful

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place that would look like when I prayed and sought personal revelation.

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And I just kind of walked inside of it and became like that became part of me.

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So I loved it.

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He was very just step by step.

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I appreciate that.

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I appreciate it too, and I'm just sitting here reflecting on this conversation and thinking,

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I put maybe too much importance and effort into the how my child prays.

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You know, we thank him for things before we ask for things and we try not to be so repetitive,

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like if we kind of get into the same prayer on the meal or whatever.

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And from like multiple episodes back, like you talked about Adam asking for specific

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things to pray with your family about trying to incorporate that it's a ministering opportunity.

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So a lot of that happening last week, like as a group, these family units are trying

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to bond and get closer together and they were creating these like notes list.

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And so whoever was in charge of the prayer that night was definitely praying on behalf

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of multiple situations going on as a group collectively.

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And I thought, what a neat thing.

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So that's a how to pray.

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What's the limit on what you can ask for?

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You know, how do you communicate with them?

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How formal is it?

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How do you visualize?

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Like Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ.

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As we're praying, like, you know, that's a thing.

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And as you were talking, I was thinking, am I as good at like I know that I teach my kids

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a lesson that he hears those person, he will answer them.

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But it's a learning skill of like, where that silent time is going to come in that you're

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going to allow the answers to come from the prayers or knowing that some of them aren't

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going to be like immediately after you rise off your knees or, you know, if you're asking

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for like your stuffy, something to be found, like you sit there and wait for it to land

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in your lap, like what action comes from it.

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So there's like multiple pieces of what we can do as parents to create this relationship

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they can have in that in prayer.

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I totally agree.

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You definitely maybe reconsider like where I'm at on that.

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I can teach them while they're in the safety of our home.

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And it's not just you can pray anytime, anywhere, anyhow, whatever that that kind of model to

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and then what how like how ready are you to receive the answer to the prayer that you've

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just offered?

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Right?

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Like you said, and then listen, and you're like, Oh, shoot, but then I said, just write

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down the thoughts that come to your mind.

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You're like, I can do that.

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I can do that.

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I was praying over my children.

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I was going to be gone last week.

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And my more fearful daughter, she she had girls camp coming up and she was nervous about it.

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And so first time, yeah.

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So we had a prayer together and I was like, she a blessing from her father would be very

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valuable.

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And then because of your your like lessons to me, I recorded I typed it up for her to

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carry with her.

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So she had her dad's words.

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Like she had the best time at camp and I knew she would but that's because I have the perspective

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of knowing, you know, what the experience is gonna be like for her.

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And I just knew she was just really anxious about whatever.

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So that was that was good.

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But what if we'd had this prayer together and she'd had she'd had the impression rather

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than me like, would you I said, like, would you like I didn't tell her you have to have

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a blessing for your dad, I suggested, would you like a blessing from your dad?

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If I have if I was, if this had sunk into my heart, you know, more like last week than

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I'd say we'd pray together and then I would say from our prayer, was there anything that

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you could think of that would be helpful?

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And if she didn't come to the idea of a blessing immediately to ask for that, then as a mom,

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I certainly could help her like look at that as an option.

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But how cool would that have been if she'd be like a blessing would be good.

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So we can always learn.

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I think you did awesome.

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How do you always learn?

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I feel good about where we got to in the end.

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And she had an awesome experience like I knew she would.

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But very cool.

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Love this.

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I love it when somebody talks to children because I'm a child and this resonated with

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me.

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I feel the same way.

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In the eternal scheme of things.

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I'm young.

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So just to make sure that we've answered the question, what are some ways that we can

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pray to know like as the first point of this talk?

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Yes.

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Sometimes you may want to know why something I love this part.

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And I've heard this over and over now.

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It's been in two talks consecutively.

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She says sometimes you may want to know why something hard is happening in your life or

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why you didn't receive a blessing you prayed for.

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And then this is it.

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Often the best question to ask Heavenly Father is not why, but what Heavenly Father will

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guide you when you ask him what you can do and what you can learn.

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Huge.

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What is so huge?

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It's actually like a springboard rather than why is just kind of like a, but there's a

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wall in front of you and you just hit it.

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You know what I'm saying?

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It's kind of an angry way to approach the trials that come our way.

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Agreed.

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When we all kind of know that those trials are the growing periods and that we're going

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to get something amazing out on the end of it.

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As we're learning in the middle of it, maybe we can feel the joy of the learning in the

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middle of it.

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But most of us get to the end of the trial and we're like, oh man, that really grew me

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in this way.

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You change it to what?

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It feels like you're inviting him to...

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Using agency.

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You're using your agency to invite him to resolve, allow him, the atonement of Jesus Christ,

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to play their fair share in helping you through.

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Totally.

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Then it doesn't really feel that burdensome.

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It's very important.

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We did some skill development on this last week and it was like, they would just present

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like, why did this happen to me?

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And then they would rephrase that question and to find the power in what steps could

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be taken when they turned it to the what.

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What can I learn?

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I didn't know that it came from this talk.

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There's another one too.

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I know.

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Who was it?

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It is Piper, Elder Piper.

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It's the next one I'm doing.

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Trust in the Lord.

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So it's coming out.

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Yes.

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So it was just a really heavy, heavy message, this conference.

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And are they referencing something, Prophet, if you look on the footnote?

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I'm always like, oh, that's where...

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Are they like echoing and reverberating?

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I'll look again.

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Yeah.

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Because I mean, it's definitely the better way to go.

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That is an action item.

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It's like Sandberg's cheer in the beginning of the talk.

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But if something is going on in your life and you feel inclined to ask why, if you write

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the why down and then you rephrase it and you put it into a what, that's a power statement.

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It is for sure.

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It's like the best step to resolving whatever's going on.

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Not only that, but what can I learn from it?

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Because the what you get to take with you into your next challenge.

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The why.

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The why is like a...

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Means nothing.

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Like you just put yourself in neutral and then you're just angry.

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Totally.

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And it's not to say that we haven't each put ourselves in the why, but I mean...

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It just doesn't get you anywhere.

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If you want to go somewhere, ask the what.

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If you're happy, just...

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If you're feeling good right now, just being in the why, that's totally fine.

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Sit there for a minute, but there's a way out and it's with the what.

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It's true.

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So next part of the talk talked about how we can pray to grow.

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Do you want to grow in patience or honesty?

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Do you want to grow in a skill?

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Maybe you're shy and want to grow in courage.

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Pray he is there.

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Through his spirit, your heart can change and you can receive strength.

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So that was kind of this little take home snippet.

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What experience can you share with us on maybe how you've applied the process of praying

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to grow?

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Thank you, Abby.

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You know what?

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I can look back.

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I think it's been about eight years now of my life, which that's kind of a lot, but yeah,

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since we moved, made our first big move.

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And we have been out of our comfort zone practically the entire time.

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We've done something new every single year and that has brought growth.

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We prayed for growth and then we've had, then we followed gentle nudges from the spirit

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when we felt to move forward.

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And if we pray from this is how I feel.

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If we pray from the beginning and then also along the way with our desire to gain experience

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for us and for our children, we contrasted the opportunities placed in our path that

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feel right to follow will bring us our desired destination.

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So this is something that happened.

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Now it's been for four and a half years.

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So it was right after the very week that I ended cancer treatments.

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I spoke at a lightkeepers convention or yeah, convention at Roots Tech.

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What's lightkeepers?

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You think you maybe mentioned it in a previous.

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It was a family history for women.

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Awesome.

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And it was fantastic.

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Loved it.

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And this is what I wrote in my journal.

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You were called to that, right?

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Like you had a missionary tag for best service.

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Yes, I was a family search, social media missionary.

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And you're still in the gospel library app with that information.

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I don't know if I am, but my companions are.

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Well, let's look while you're talking.

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So this is what I wrote in my journal at the time.

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Saturday night after speaking at lightkeepers, I wanted to fall into bed victorious and sleep

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like a tranquilized elephant.

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Instead, I thought of the looming mountains that are next to climb and I geared up as

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I lay in bed and prayed for strength to climb these next mountains that there were three

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in particular.

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As I thought about them, I felt the Lord whisper, what if they're all the same mountain?

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I know that God is a multiplier.

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He multiplies and consecrates our efforts.

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Why not have all the desires of my heart wrapped into one project, one great work?

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I told God I didn't see how I could have the bandwidth to conquer cancer treatments

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and also climb the next mountain.

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Because at this point, I wasn't sure if I was going to start another round.

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That's how it always went.

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I would finally finish one and I would start another one again.

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So I didn't know if I had the bandwidth to continue cancer treatments and also climb

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the next mountain, but if he thought I could, then I asked for strength and then I fell

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asleep.

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Then I will tell you one mountain is that we felt compelled to buy a lodge in another

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state and it had 12 acres, 12 tiny cabins on a mountainside and a river ran through

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it.

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I will just say that that was one of the things that like I said, if we're talking to the

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Lord and we're working with him, then he is going to consecrate all of the things that

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we're doing.

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And it has been that way.

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All the things that I wanted to do that I wanted for my family and for my children,

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it kind of has been all one big mountain.

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They're all the same.

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I think that's pretty cool, right?

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Like one of them-

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It's cool on the side of it.

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It is so overwhelming, but also because I took a moment to look, I will share this really

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quick thing that I didn't know at the time.

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My parents have been in church service for, they were in it for like 17 years of my married

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life, 15 years.

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I forget what it's been.

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It's been a lot and I didn't see them a bunch.

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They were always gone, right?

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They were always at different parts of the world and buying this place with the cabins,

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they decided to come, we live in a very hot area in Arizona, and they decided to come

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up to Wyoming for the summers.

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And I just, I can't even tell you the joy that it brings to my heart that we had a place

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where my parents, they didn't feel like a burden because they're not staying in my

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house.

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They're just in a tiny cabin that's literally a few steps from my house.

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You know what I mean?

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But I feel like the Lord has given me a compensatory blessing for their service and now I get to

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see him way more than I did for those years that they were in service.

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It's all but made up for it.

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I could never say, heavenly father, you took my parents from me.

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I feel like he's more than made up for it.

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And I never would have dreamed in my life that my parents would have summered at my

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place, that my little boy can jump into our side by side and go take granny an egg because

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she needs it or whatever it is.

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The Lord has totally, he's made good on that promise.

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Nicole And not that you're not enough reason to

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attract siblings to the area, but two siblings have chosen to eventually get out of here.

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Amy Lovell Yeah, they will have a place here at some

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Nicole I love that.

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That's a great way, that's a great recognition of the compensatory blessing from the sacrifice

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because it was worth just the sacrifice for the sacred sacrifice.

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I actually got to listen to a podcast that Amy's dad did just recently on another podcast

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and it was amazing to think of the years of service that he put in.

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Because I'm not the one that sacrificed my father, grandfather, whatever, to the service

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of the Lord, it's probably not fair for me to have this opinion about it.

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But I thought, if each of the siblings thought back to the blessings, if they look back and

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think where they're at in their life right now financially or the little decisions that

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they've made along their path, that maybe they can recognize that as compensatory blessing

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also because they definitely didn't have to give up grandma and granny for many, many

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years consecutive.

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Nicole Right, because the Lord's a multiplier.

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He can make that happen.

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Amy Lovell He is a multiplier.

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I love it.

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And really, when you think about the blessings of all the lands that they touched and the

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work that they did, it's like you can't even put a number to how many lives they touched

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because you were willing to sacrifice that loved one.

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So if I heard you right, basically, when you pray to grow, plan on a trial coming your

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way.

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Is that what I heard?

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Nicole That's a challenge.

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He's going to give you the tools to make it happen, right?

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Amy Lovell Well, that's the great thing.

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Nicole They don't just grow.

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Amy Lovell When it doesn't feel like you can conquer

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that mountain by yourself, you got a good hiking buddy if you involve him, if you use

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your agency to invite him along.

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He'll carry the pack too.

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It's great.

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It's nice of him.

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All right.

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Should we jump to the third piece of this talk?

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Nicole Sounds great.

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Amy Lovell So it was prayed to show you can pray for

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help to show Heavenly Father's love to others.

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Oh, that's great.

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Nicole I know, huh?

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Amy Lovell Well, and I kind of thought it was by no

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coincidence that it was...

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Nicole Susan Porter?

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Amy Lovell Well, no, the steps of it.

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You need to pray to know the truth of something for yourself.

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It's like when you're on an airplane and if the cabin pressure changes, you fix your own

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mask and then you would help the person adjacent to you.

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Nicole Totally.

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Amy Lovell So to be able to share any light, you need

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to have the light yourself.

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Then because you trust in the process and you know God's word and you know the plan

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that's been put in play for us, then you can approach opportunities to grow just like you

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were talking about, being able to look past multiple years of experiences and what seemed

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hard and insurmountable and what blessings you're reaping from that hard sacrifice in

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this moment in your life.

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Beautiful.

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So then we're on to pray to show.

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Now is our opportunity to take the love we feel for ourselves and try to influence others

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to feel that same love.

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Nicole Susan Love that.

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Amy Lovell So what thoughts can you say?

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Nicole Susan She had some points that...

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And I just loved them.

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Through His Spirit, Heavenly Father will help you notice someone who is sad.

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Remember, she's speaking to children, who is sad so you can comfort them.

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He can help you show His love by forgiving someone.

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He can give you courage to serve someone and share with them that they are a child of God.

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Those who are praying for blessings for your family and others you love, don't give up.

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Heavenly Father will show you what you can do.

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Amy Lovell What is the example of her little granddaughter

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that was feeling alone on the playground in this particular section?

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Because I wasn't looking at it in print.

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Nicole Susan It was either a friend or a granddaughter,

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yes.

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Amy Lovell It was her granddaughter.

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I just don't know if it was in this, but she kneels down to pray and tells Heavenly Father

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that she's lonely.

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She opens her eyes and a schoolmate her same age is like right in front of his face.

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And so what a neat thing to experience that.

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Especially this granddaughter is like, we told the story to grandma and it's like as

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a grandma, you're just like loving that kid that just stopped and answered the call.

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So the granddaughter was, her blessing was answered, but like maybe the little girl that

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came to her side had prayed like, help me.

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Maybe she also needed a friend and she saw this gal.

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She's like, oh, she's praying and I pray.

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I don't know all the details of it, but it's interesting to think like maybe how he answered

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that little girl's prayer by finding, by answering this other little girl's prayer.

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He has this perspective that he can make this magic happen in any way that he can think

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of.

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But I don't know, you emphasize some great things from the talk, like just right from

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her talk, but any personal experiences you want to share about the prayer to show?

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Nicole Susan Yes.

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Amy Lovell So it's interesting because I firmly believe

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that when we opt into praying for someone, we unlock blessings for heaven.

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And the thing that's funny, Abby, is we worked on this talk before I looked at the words

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for how the words matter and I looked back at President Nelson's words.

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He's the one that said this thing.

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So I love it.

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Nicole Susan So was it footnoted in here or they were just

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like echoing the words of the prophet?

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Amy Lovell It wasn't footnoted, just when I was studying

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I was like, that's where I found it.

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He said when you pray for someone, you like are receiving direct, like you're, he didn't

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say these words, but it was the same principle.

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We unlock blessings from heaven.

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The specific blessing is that God shares with us how he feels about this person.

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This whole principle was taught by him.

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We are blessed with a portion of his love for them.

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He also blesses us with a glimpse.

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This is how I feel.

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He blesses us with a glimpse into their life's path and potential.

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That's happened to me multiple times and I've been overcome and overwhelmed with love

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for this person.

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And I've just seen a quick, and I mean just a glimpse.

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It's not like I get this whole, you know, vision or whatever it is of their life, but

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I just get a quick glimpse and I'm like, oh, it's like a little spark and I see,

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I see how this is going to work.

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And I see that he's answering that prayer.

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And honestly, if we hadn't opted into praying for someone, I feel like we don't have, we're

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not using our agency.

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And so he's not blessing us with that.

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But as soon as we do, as soon as someone has the sometimes vulnerability to ask for a very

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specific prayer, we then get that blessing too.

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And I feel like that's something that is very celestial.

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Through the Holy Ghost, I've come to recognize this extra blessing as I pray for others.

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This becomes a blessing for me as well, as I'm filled with a portion, which feels overwhelming

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to me, of God's love and his eternal perspective on this person.

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This is one way that prayer truly is a gift from God, just like Sister Porter calls it.

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Don't be so emotional, like maybe I'll have it, I'm just thinking back to last week and

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a prayer that I started the week with was just to have eyes to recognize the one.

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But I just want to bear testimony that when you have that prayer in your heart, that you'll

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have eyes to see, and you know, Heavenly Father's children, and because we're His hands, you

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have the opportunity to answer somebody's prayer, maybe a prayer unspoken, like maybe

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you're answering the prayer of the mother that like dragged their kid to FSY, or maybe

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somebody came willingly, but they came with like a burning question on their heart.

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If you open up, just want to testify just to what you said, if I did have the prayer

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to be able to minister to the one, find the one, reach the one, and I can't even share

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00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,360
the experiences, they're too numerous to count.

484
00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:39,580
And when He answers the prayer to allow you to reach the one, it just testifies to you

485
00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:43,920
that others that are praying to reach the one, when you're the one that's in need,

486
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,700
He's just as mindful as you.

487
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:55,240
You don't have to have your prayers answered to fill, to be able to gain that testimony

488
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,560
that He does answer them through other people.

489
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,880
I'm not really articulating the feelings of my heart here.

490
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,280
Nicole Sade I mean, I feel like I'm understanding what

491
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:08,360
you're saying, that it works on both sides, at both ends, and when you look for the one,

492
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:10,000
then you realize, oh, He loves me that much too.

493
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:16,280
And when He gives you the direction to do this plain and simple thing, it means nothing.

494
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,360
It's like a gesture that doesn't mean that much to you.

495
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:22,040
And He makes that happen.

496
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,800
It does require them to maybe say to you like, oh, that thing that you said matter to me

497
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,800
because of this reason.

498
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,000
So you kind of have to get the follow up from them.

499
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,640
You don't really know that it's like the one that you meant to reach out to is the one

500
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,680
that you meant to reach out to.

501
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:40,600
But when you do get those glimpses of those perfect moments happening, it's just another

502
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,920
testament that He's as mindful of you as He is of them.

503
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,720
He gives you the ability to bless somebody else.

504
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:53,160
So I guess what I'm saying is the opportunity to serve others in the name of His Son, Jesus

505
00:24:53,160 --> 00:25:02,840
Christ is such a beautiful gift to know how much He cares about each one of us.

506
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:08,040
I agree, Abby, real quick while you were talking, it's funny because – not funny, it's interesting

507
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,680
because you said your prayer was to look for the one.

508
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,240
And that is what President Nelson has asked us to do for his birthday.

509
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,240
Exactly.

510
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,240
This is why it came up.

511
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,840
I know that's the birthday theme and that was just a big piece of – we should reiterate

512
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,480
that birthday wish because it's coming up in September.

513
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,480
He's 99 and he's turning.

514
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,360
Look for the one, reach out for the one, be a peacemaker, forgive someone, all of that.

515
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:32,040
This is what I loved about what you said.

516
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:38,560
I remember this as I was looking through all of the words that President Nelson has taught,

517
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,800
which is to turn us to Jesus Christ.

518
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,240
It's not to gain like fan-domain over him.

519
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,240
No, not about him.

520
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,240
Not at all.

521
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,240
It's not about him.

522
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,240
He's turning us to Jesus Christ.

523
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:58,560
This is what I felt over and over and over, that to the extent we receive the teachings

524
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:04,080
of our prophet, to the extent that we receive them and then put them into work in our lives,

525
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,840
is the extent that we allow God to bless us in that thing.

526
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,720
So the way you're speaking that is like the words that he spoke to you, the ones that

527
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,040
you've kind of reflected back on over the four years on like knowing for yourself the

528
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,040
testimony.

529
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,040
Totally.

530
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:25,280
It's just not a good excuse to have anger or turmoil about anything that's being spoken

531
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:31,480
because they've never asked us to take it just at face value and just to trust them.

532
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,360
I do trust everything that they say, but it's because I let the Spirit confirm that to me,

533
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:36,360
not just because I…

534
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:37,360
Right, because he said that.

535
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,420
He said it, so I'm just going to have to make that right in me.

536
00:26:39,420 --> 00:26:43,560
Sometimes it takes a minute, sometimes it takes a second, sometimes it takes a week.

537
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:50,680
I'm not putting a timeline on things, but basically if I am feeling unsettled about

538
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,380
one thing, I already approach that with the fact that I know that I will be given the

539
00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:57,320
right pieces to reconcile that.

540
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,040
I will find truths that I already know and then add them to other truths that I already

541
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,040
know to eventually understand the truth that they're trying to teach me that I'm not

542
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,040
ready to reconcile yet.

543
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,040
About that, yes.

544
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,040
I don't know.

545
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,080
That's like a lot of cyclical talk, but I guess at the end of the day, we just testify

546
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,280
that it's so important to start with that first step.

547
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:24,480
If there's something, if there's a gospel principle that's being taught that you're

548
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,040
not reconciled with, that's your first step.

549
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,280
Find that thing that you're needing to have further confirmation of and don't just trust

550
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,680
the words of the prophet.

551
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,920
Know that you can come to know those things for yourself through the Spirit.

552
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,920
Absolutely.

553
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,680
And then what was the second one?

554
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,820
Would be to pray to grow.

555
00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:49,040
There may be a spiritual gift or something that needs to come into play to reconcile

556
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,040
that.

557
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,560
It could be something totally unrelated.

558
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,640
I don't know.

559
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,160
And then the third one, pray to show.

560
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,600
What can you do to show Heavenly Father's children that you're there to love them?

561
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,080
Be His hands.

562
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:09,200
We'll put our questions in, but the biggest one for this is instead, like the biggest

563
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,800
paradigm shift, I guess, is instead of praying and asking why, is to pray and ask, what can

564
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,960
I learn from this?

565
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,960
What is my part in this?

566
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,960
And he'll tell you.

567
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,160
It'd take a minute to reflect, like, is there questions weighing on your mind and you're

568
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:28,200
stuck and are you asking it in a why format and could you restructure it and make it a

569
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,200
lot?

570
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,200
Right?

571
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,200
Just change one word.

572
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,200
It is really one word.

573
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,200
It is.

574
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,200
Thanks so much for being here today.

575
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,200
We've loved talking about this.

576
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,200
We could talk about it forever.

577
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,560
We hope that you talk with your friends about it, with your family about it, and that it

578
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,240
fuses a fire in you, like it has for us.

579
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,240
We love the gospel.

580
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,240
We love Jesus Christ.

581
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,240
We'll catch you guys next time.

582
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,240
See ya.

583
00:28:46,240 --> 00:29:14,240
I hate crying.

