Welcome to Closer to Christ, the General Conference, where two friends share our own approach to
studying general conference. Today we get to delve into the talk by Elder Ronald A.
Razband called Words Matter. And before we jump, jump in, Amy, I think it's worth noting
that we are onto the Sunday morning session of conference.
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Awesome, Abby. Thank you. Okay, so in this talk, words are the bedrock of how we connect.
They represent our beliefs, our morals, and perspectives. And sometimes we speak words
other and other times we listen to words. Words set a tone, they voice our thoughts,
feelings and experiences for either bad or for good. He then goes on or just a little
more background. Words can be thoughtless, hasty and hurtful. They can wound, punish,
cut down and even lead to destructive actions. They can weigh heavily on us, but words can
celebrate victory, be hopeful and encouraging. They can prompt us to rethink, reboot and
redirect our course. Words can open our minds to truth.
Isn't that such an amazing statement?
Yep, he said it very well, didn't he?
He did say it well. And it made me think how amazing it is to think about the vast audience
that the conference is going to reach in so many languages, across all continents.
Cultures.
Cultures. And you know that they don't specifically assign speakers to talk on anything ventricular.
So once they get the assignment, they spend months studying, pondering, praying over topics
that are near and dear to them. And maybe they've asked the Lord at some point, like
what do they need to learn more of so then they're going to put their time and effort
into studying that. But I have a strong testimony that the words that are spoken as messages
from General Conference are through the Lord's servants and they are the words that he wants
us to have access to and to hear. And so when I go into General Conference, I've already
mentioned this before, but I ask him to bless me with ears to hear the messages that are
meant for me. Like they'll resonate in a certain way. And now that we're doing the podcast
week to week, really delving into talks rather than just the ones that my Relief Society
presidency has selected for us to take a look into, I'm getting that deep dive into every
single talk. And just want to testify that when we access those words that are available
to us, they can change your life. Because the message that you were prepared to hear
on that first day of conference or the ones you pick up here and there, they matter. They
help us change our thought. They help us change the actions that we're doing day to day. And
then when I'm like, now that we're this far into each of the conference talks, I'm connecting
things between the talks like never before, or it's making, if I'm having a conversation
with a friend, maybe they're looking for some advice or they just want to talk about
something that these are maybe the most fresh words on my mind.
Nicole Sadd-Kelley Isn't it nice?
Danielle Pletka Yeah, like I can just be a mouthpiece to
the Lord through his servants and then have something to reference back to so that they
can ponder on it themselves rather than just like, this is good information. Maybe you
were going to run across it at some other point. So I'm just feeling super grateful
for this opportunity that we've had to study, to study these so deeply. So we have ancient
scripture that we can pull off of and then what I'd consider general conference modern
scripture and both of those combined are really blessing my life. There was a quote from this
talk and it said, believing and heeding the word of God will draw us closer to him. President
Russell M. Nelson has promised, if you will study his words, your ability to be more like
him will increase. And isn't that our end goal? Be more like Jesus Christ, draw closer
to him, echo his words more fully and knowing that we can easily do that as we're sharing
thoughts and impressions from conference and as scriptures come to our mind, like what
great tools to have. Absolutely. This talk gives us the opportunity to consider words
and then their ability to draw us closer to Jesus Christ. And then I love that it's broken
up into three categories. There's the Lord's words, the prophet's words, and our own words.
Yeah, that's a great way to describe how this talk was broken up. It makes it like
simple for us to kind of attack each of those. So Abby, what examples from this talk stood
out to you on how to make the Lord's words matter more in our lives? I like that he quoted
2nd Nephi 32.3. This is what it said, wherefore I said unto you, feast upon the words of Christ,
for behold the words of Christ will tell you all things that you should do. And just by
way of comment on that, I just kind of thought we've got to get into the scriptures. They've
been made available to us. And if we use our agency to access the power that can come from
scriptures, then they will provide the power that we're looking for. If you have a question
come to mind, you don't have to be a scriptorian. I think many of us have probably had that
experience where you have a question in your heart and you feel impressed to go to the
scriptures. They're like an old friend and you open them randomly and the scripture that
pops up, the spirit can make applicable to whatever situation. Totally. I'm married
to a guy that can know the scripture that he's supposed to turn to. He can be like,
this is the reference, but oh yeah, I'm going to open to whatever book. That's not a gift
that I have. Nor do I imagine I ever will. Yeah, I'm totally all about it. I do love
that. You're like, I know enough words. Type in the word sacrifice or whatever and he'll
get me to where I need to be. But we just had an experience last week and a gal was
contemplating a question. She had something burning on her heart. So she typed into her
search button and then it took her to this article that was based on the early society
or whatever. I looked at Adam and I was like, let's test this out. So I opened up the gospel
library thing and I typed in the word she said. She typed into the search bar. Did not
come up with the same search results. I'm telling you, divine Google search. It really
is, especially if you're focusing into good resources like the gospel library app, they're
going to take you to wherever. But how she tied in that article to the question she was
asking, I was like, yeah, that was the spirit. And so continue that process because that
is an excellent way to rely on the Lord's words to get you through whatever trial that
you're experiencing, even if it's not duplicatable. He'll get you to the right place later.
That's the whole thing. Yeah. It doesn't have to be duplicatable. It's whatever is for you
at that moment. Was there anything that stood out to you about that, about feast, like the
Lord's words in particular? I like the part where he talked about, well, there were so
many things. It's hard to narrow it down, but something that really stuck into my heart
was it was from the savior and just the reassurance in the New Testament. Heaven and earth shall
pass away, but my word shall not pass away. And I, again, I totally think that that for
me, it is another remembrance for me that scripture is living scripture and that is
always applicable as I change, as I'm in different seasons. I can go back and read the exact
same scripture I've read before. And instead of kind of rolling my eyes and thinking, I've
already heard this before, if I'm really listening and wanting to learn from it, it's like I
learned something else from it. It just hits me in a different way and it's applicable
to maybe the hardship or the trial that I'm going through right then. And it's an answer
that totally resonates is truth to me. And then when I read it to my words shall not
pass away, I kind of think of maybe people's intention to rewrite history, rewrite things.
And for me, like assurances that I've received from the spirit of a truth that's in the scriptures,
this really can't change, can't be rewritten.
Right. The truth doesn't change, but the application changes, which is why it's living. Yes, I
totally agree.
Here was another quote from that section. If a man love me, he will keep my words. My
father will love him and he will come unto him and make our abode with him. So I love
the thought of the abode. I love the visual of thinking of the father and son and me abiding
with them. But you have to know his word to keep his word. And so that's the important
thing of why these prophets were charged with writing this important stuff down. It's because
those truths existed then and they exist for us now. And they're really just meant to be
such a strong tool. So because of those words, we have the story of Joseph Smith reading
in James 1.5. And as he records his experience, being able to see the father and the son and
hear him. So let's borrow a question right from Elder Rasband. He says, we hear him in
the words of scripture, but do we just let them sit on the page or do we recognize he
is speaking to us? Do we change?
Very good.
That's a question probably we should all just kind of steal on and just think about like
the scriptures are good, but to what end? What am I doing with the words that I'm learning
from them? Are they causing change in my life? Are they driving me closer to the savior and
helping me act more like him? Or is it just like, I felt like I had to read a chapter
and I read my chapter and it was a check mark.
Right. Or, oh, that reminds me of someone else who needs this. Like when you hear that
rather than I need this, what can I do with this? That's what it's all about. It's not
for you reading for other people. It's you reading for you.
That's really smart. We hear him in personal revelation and prompting from the Holy Ghost
in answer to prayer. And in those moments when only Jesus Christ through the power of
his atonement can lift our burdens, grant us forgiveness and peace and embrace us in
the arms of his love. I guess when I heard this part of the talk, I thought that relationship
in reading his words and then making them applicable in our lives or allowing them to
feel like the answer to a prayer really is contingent upon the relationship that we've
established with him.
Totally. Is it trusted? Is that one of your lines of communication?
To feel the power of the atonement that only Jesus Christ can offer to allow him to lift
our burdens, we have to initially turn that burden over to him and have to test that process
like whether we think that we can access the power that we've been promised if we abide
in his word and trust in his word.
So I don't think that everybody that's listening is going to be like, oh yeah, I totally trust
that I'm doing that. But it's a process. It's a process that's worth putting time into and
learning.
Doesn't it feel like everything's a process? I don't know of anything that's one and done.
It's like everything's preparatory for the next thing.
And I especially love when you'll hear a child testify of an answer to their prayer and it's
something as simple as finding a remote or their stuffy. It's simple ways for them to
establish trust in him.
For sure, because that's important to them.
So that when the bigger things come along that they have that as their experience from
before. So then as they hear these promises that they can access that power, that they'll
be like, oh, I have that one time that I remember that one experience and then it buoys them
to do the next thing. Ask him for a harder thing, a bigger ask and a bigger situation.
That's a pattern of God.
Why not make the best investment of your life by spending more of your time now to study
and learn for yourself the ways of the Lord? Consider the ways you're making time for scripture
study. Do we need to make an adjustment to better be able to hear him?
So I thought on this one, I thought, what's my pattern for studying the gospel?
Does it change or is it the same?
Oh, totally, totally changes.
My nose changes.
It totally changes depending on the calling that I'm having. So it's like, if I'm teaching
teenagers, I'm like definitely reading the Come Follow Me week to week, like through
the eyes of a teenager. It's rarely about myself. That's just how it is.
And you're a lot with teenagers as far as your callings. You just did FSY last week.
You teach them.
But now I have like a primary calling.
Oh, yeah, you're right. Sorry. I subbed for you. I knew that.
Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a mixture. I have different, I do have different hats that I
wear, but like on every Sunday, my Come Follow Me experience is with nine turning 10 year
olds. And so I would definitely say that like first year since January, like my delve into
the scriptures is from the eyes of what's a bite size piece, like what's one take home.
I'm definitely not trying to cover everything. I go through the scripture verses and I just
recall experiences that touched me. And then I always just think what's the one thing,
like if they go home and they're having a conversation with their family about the one
thing that we talked about, what's the most important?
And so, I don't know. I'm like, that's a different way that I'm studying the Come Follow Me currently.
But I would say I'm, to hear the Lord's word, like I'm more in general conference now, this
chunk of time because of this podcast than I've ever been.
Agreed.
And so that's like filling my personal cup and that's allowing personal growth for me.
Whereas like the Come Follow Me is totally awesome and it pairs well with whatever we're
studying. But I'm always like, oh, that scripture ties well with this talk that we just went
deep into and it makes me think this more about the talk. So those are the moments for
me. But I hesitate to, I think we need to be in the scriptures and the more that are
on our mind, the more reference that we have to recall those answers, the questions are
certainly there. But I just really want to suggest not having like a checklist item like,
oh, you've got to get through a chapter, you've got to get through this at a certain amount
of time. I think if what's maybe like more valuable is to have a question on your mind
and then let the scripture study pair with the question rather than just like I got through
a chapter.
That's kind of how I do it too.
Yeah. I'm not saying that.
I don't always follow.
I hear that all the time. It's just a thought.
Okay. So we've gone through the Lord's words. Now let's talk about hearing the
words of the prophet. Prophets testify of the divinity of Jesus Christ. They teach his
gospel and show his love for all. And then he says, I bear my witness that our living
prophet, President Russell M. Nelson hears and speaks the word of the Lord.
Amen.
He does. Let's think of some of the last cute little terms that he's coined right
from the talk, pulled, keep on the covenant path. He said, gather Israel, let God prevail,
build bridges of understanding, give thanks, increase your faith in Jesus Christ, take
charge of your testimony, become a peacemaker, think celestial. So the prophet is very good
at reaching people where they're at. And he knows to reach the youth, like Instagram
is a really great way to do these. And what really resonates on Instagram is like a two
to four word blurb.
Agreed.
So I think Heavenly Father knows that's how they're going to reach them. And so he comes
up with these cool little things.
So good.
And then you could spend months and years on just like one of his little phrases, the
deeper you want to get into it. So if you don't feel put on the spot, what comes to
your mind or like what truth have you learned from one of those cute little coined phrases
that he's recently spoken?
So I went back and looked at all of his since 2018 and I was absolutely floored. I know
this sounds funny, but you know when like you learn or understand a truth and you take
it into your heart, sometimes you forget when you learned it because it feels like it's
always been part of you or a piece of you. But as I looked back, there were four different
times that I was like, oh my gosh, that one question or that one thing that President
Nelson said, for example, one of them he said in 2018, he said, you do not have to question
what truth is. You can find out for yourself. And he just talked about personal revelation.
And just like you said before, that exact talk was when he said, we don't give specific
topics, everyone prays and receives their own personal revelation on what they want
to talk about. And then we use our agency and use our use our agency to receive personal
revelation. And I also love it was also the talk where he talks about, I think it's spiritual
treasures, but I'm not sure. No, no, no, no, revelation for the church, revelation for
our lives. And he talked about how you grow into personal revelation. And I've literally
taken that. And that was the whole basis for, I feel like since he got into his presidency,
yeah, his presidency, that my life has changed since then. That was one of the things. The
other one was, I think it was spiritual treasures. Yes. When he talked to the women and I have
never felt more loved, more seen and more like valued as a woman in Christ restored
church as I have through that talk. And it's really cool because just this week I saw a
video of sister darn can't think of her name right now, but she's single and she was in
one of the presidencies. I know I can see your face and she was a humanitarian. You
think Sharon. Thank you, Sharon. Yes. So she does the charities now, right? Yes. She was
talking and she said for this talk, spiritual treasures that president Nelson sat down that
specific presidency and said, this is what I want to say. He gave them each a copy. They
listened to it or sorry, they read it and they were like, oh yeah, this is great. This
and they kind of, and he said, no, I want you to tell me if there's anything that kind
of rubs you wrong or doesn't feel like I have nothing but love. And I want to make sure
these words articulate the absolute love that I feel. Okay. Well, maybe this part right
here you might want to. And I just thought that was so interesting that I had literally
just the morning before read and studied that talk again and literally sat down and wrote
down my reflections. And I just thought it was interesting that number one, president
Nelson's humility in approaching women who he trusted and asking and then having like
a conversation with them that that really did bring about, it's like he, he walks the
walk. He doesn't just talk to talk, right? He actually put that into practice. He does
value women. And it was a collaborative effort and I felt that in the talk. So I just thought
that was wonderful. It does help that he raised eight women and one son nine, right? Or is
it nine daughters? Maybe? I don't know. Anyway, cause then he says a little Timo. I wanted
to emphasize the love that the prophet has for his women because I did a woman's devotional
last week. Like it's like the Thursday of FSY. And I wanted this, the women that were
joined with me to know that being woman is unique. It's special. It's important. And
that if they're ever feeling like lesser than or undermined or like not heard, that's Satan's
tool because there's nothing but love oozing out and like having father loves his sons
and his daughters. But if he had to pick one or the other, kind of like led him with that.
And I was like, if this isn't resonating with you, then I pushed play like on a chunk, like
two or paragraphs from the prophets words. And it's when he called himself mother, like
he was, it was being translated was a spiritual treasure. That's why I thought it was the
one under the gathering of Israel. Cause it's the women's. And I'm like, that's not the
one I played. It's the sisters. It's not role. It wasn't a woman's session. Yes. And it was
right after he had done like the gathering, the youth battalion thing. This was the woman's
session. He also invited us to do some, a few things like, like give up social media
and whatever, like to join. But the beginning of it, he talked about how being a mother
isn't about having children. It's about like, um, like fore-ordained, like, um, nurturing.
Yeah. Like those qualities that just imbue woman and, and, and how Wendy, Wendy's the
only one that really caught because it was translated. The translator totally fixed it
to say son or father or whatever. And he, like he said, is the most beautiful thing.
It's like, um, that, that he wanted to be a mother because, uh, a doctor, cause mother
was already taken. Yeah. I loved that too. Abby, I'm like, how can you, how can you,
how can you think anything, but that they have your best interest in like absolute love
and adoration for you? I 100% agree. Okay. It's a dark, I could go on and on because
truly I was, this is what I would love to say. Two things. The first one is that again,
the gift is in the reflection. When we stop and we reflect and we just take a moment,
what have I learned from the prophets words? What have I learned in this instance? I feel
like it gives the Holy ghost time to touch our heart one more time. The second thing
is this, when I looked back, I was like, Oh, maybe someone has a quick list of something
that the prophets taught. Guess what they did. There were multiple of them. But when
I looked, it wasn't the things that spoke to my heart. Like there was just one thing
and I thought, no, there was more than that. So this is what I want to say about this.
There may be something that touches someone else's heart, but don't take their list.
Like make your own list, go back and truly find the things that spoke to you because
I promise they're going to be different. There might be some that are the same, but
they're going to be some that are spoken directly to you from the Lord and through our prophet.
Awesome. And specifically if you're using the gospel library app, there is a study plan
that will get you into the words of the prophet so that you can kind of put those in like
one place and listen to one after the next. There's a ton. I mean, and I love it because
it just kicks into the next one. You don't have to do anything, go back and change anything.
It just exes it off and you go to the next one. I was just like, I'll pause it and then
write things down and just offer a prayer of gratitude. Yes. Anyway, I'm done now.
I love it. I was going to say like for me, think celestial was kind of a mind blowing
talk for me. And I just thought we are not asked to just like trudge through this life
and get to the end and then wonder what kingdom we're going to inherit. We can think celestial
now and be blessed with celestial blessings now in the present. It's been a game changer.
Like obviously I'm not perfect at things, but my initial thought, like if somebody irritates
me, like minor friction, big friction, the way that I'm treating my kids, like my conversation
with husband, how I'm looking at like curve balls that are thrown at life. I am doing
a much better job at thinking celestial. I'm like, is this going to make a difference in
the long run for the good or the bad? And it's helping me choose better words because
I'm thinking in that vein that I, ideally I'm not going to have something that I really
need to apologize for. Like, I kind of just skip to like, what, like fast forward, like
what's this going to, what's this reaction going to cause like a month down the road?
And if I'm not really happy with that, then I just nip it in the bud right, right at the
beginning. That's great. I like that. Let's move, let's move past that. I think just
so we can get to the last of the talk. I'm not even sure how long I've been talking
for him. Oh, I do have to say this though. He was assigned to do the dedication prayer
in Thailand and he thought about it for months. I love that they put so much time and effort
into these like singular assignments or whatever, but it's cool because you can reference those
dedicatory prayers. Like I've referenced the one that Elder Brednar did for our Strive Valley
temple and to see like now enough years have gone past, but I'm like, how am I seeing that
being fulfilled? So it's awesome that he was kind of like stirred in his sleep, woke up
like the night before the dedication, he was unsettled and he was feeling like this urgent
thoughts related to this dedicatory prayer. And he tried to set it aside, but he, the
spirit kept pestering him. And so he just knew there's something missing from here.
So he said, by divine design, they came to me in revelation and I inserted these words
into the prayer near the end. He said, may we think celestial, letting my spirit prevail
in our lives and strive to be peacemakers always. The Lord was reminding me to heed
the words of our prophet. Words of the prophet matter to the Lord and to us. And I thought
there's just no better way to just reemphasize that what a blessing we have to have the leaders
that we do at this time. And if you have nothing but like, if you have any other feeling than
like love and adoration for the service that they're providing, this is a good chance to
see like, like where those feelings coming from. Oh yeah. It's just a way to readdress
like, are you really sustaining the Lord's prophets or like, yeah, I sustain them except
for. Right. But what's the but there? Yeah. So what was the, what was the third point
of this talk in this? It was our own words. Yes. Our own words. So we're thinking about
the power of our own words and how words matter. Our words can be supportive or angry, joyful
or mean, compassionate or tossed aside. In the heat of the moment, words can sting and
sink painfully deep into the soul and they stay there. Our words on the internet, texting,
social media or tweets take on a life of their own. So be careful what you say and how you
say it in our families, especially with husbands, wives, children, our words can bring us together
or drive a wedge between us. Do you remember the three phrases he suggested we use a little
bit more? Yes. Thank you. I'm sorry. And I love you, which is the oponopono. Oh, that's
a cute way to say it. Um, well, he definitely encouraged us to use those, um, more regularly.
And why not? Yeah, exactly. Why not use them every day? Each one of those. Um, I guess
that kind of was summed up in the talk as I was talking about, like think celestial that
we all have the ability to say something in the heat of a moment for sure. But if you're
as the prophet suggested, thinking celestial, and if you're reading the scriptures pretty
regularly, if you're addressing conference talks regularly, when you're confronted with
a situation, we're obviously talking about something that's probably driving you to anger
or I don't know. You think of it annoyance. Okay. I was like, think of some other emotions
that this might be in that our natural man instinct would be to say like thought a or
input, like give advice where they weren't asking for advice. And if you take a few steps
back and you're thinking celestial, then you're like, okay, did they ask for advice or am
I just like trying to change their behavior because I think I'm right and they should
do what I'm doing. I don't know much past to say past that, but you don't really have
to say I'm sorry if you don't do something offensive in the beginning. You could be saying
sorry because they've perceived like an ill intent when like no ill intent was meant.
But if I guess the take home for me was as I read the scriptures and as I listened to
the words of the prophet, it is way more likely that if a situation arises in that circle
that I do have, we don't say like jurisdiction, but it's like my circle of influence, friend
that comes to me for advice or opinion or just having a conversation, my spouse, certainly
my children that the words that will come to my mind, I could probably say a quick prayer
for it. He's able to put those words to come out of my mouth is his mouthpiece because
I put them into myself. For sure. So that's all right. Yeah. I didn't have like a ton
more to say past that. Do you have any thoughts on the words that we're speaking or as far
as the words that we're speaking? I have always held back like my entire life. I've held back
for fear of offending and I hit a certain point. I'm going to be 48 this year. I hit
a certain point a few years ago where I was like, you know what, if I don't do that, I'm
not going to have an experience of, I think it was when I was listening to president.
It was when I was listening to president Nelson, he talked about, he said, our meetings are
rooms of revelation and no one withholds their opinion or anything. We might not agree at
the beginning, but it doesn't majority does not rule. Everyone speaks. So I thought, oh
shoot, maybe the way I've been doing things is maybe I haven't been going about it the
wrong way. Maybe I do need to learn to speak and have difficult conversations that I really
don't want to have. I want to avoid them at all costs because they're non-confrontational
and they hit close to my heart. Right. And I don't want to offend someone else. So I
have started to have those conversations and I will say in all transparency, sometimes
I haven't been the been perfect at them at the same time because of Christ's atonement.
I feel like nothing I say, especially in the spirit of wanting to communicate and to show
love to somebody, nothing I say is beyond the reach of Christ's atonement. And again,
because my intent intent is to be Christ-like is to have open, honest communication at the
same time. Someone something that someone else says to me is not beyond the reach of
Christ's atonement. I don't give that much power to anyone else's words. So as you're
talking, are you specifically thinking like you're sitting in Sunday school or Relief
Society and a comment comes to your mind to share or you talking about like one-on-one
personal communication, conversations you're having with, yes, where maybe something has
where I want to mend a relationship. I want to strengthen it. I want to say, where did
we go wrong? Because I feel a little bit of tension here, those types of things that you
kind of just want to just be quiet and let it sail off into the sunset sometimes. So
I've started having some more of the open conversations and been very prayerful and
start with a prayer with that person and then with a prayer.
That is key because if he's involved in the process because you've prayed that into truth
or absolute, like he's in the process, then part of that prayer, I've had this situation.
So I say, my intention is not to hurt or offend, help me have the words to say like to express
my feelings. Then this is also a place where it's not necessarily per journaling, but it's
like, let's call it like conflict resolution. Like I will make a note to myself and I'll
say like, these are my feelings, like I'm a jumbled mess, but like I can line out and
then say, does that articulate the feelings that I'm having? So that there's less like
circling around saying the wrong thing. I can look at how it comes out in print and
say, that's not exactly what I mean. That could definitely be misinterpreted. So that
like the final outcome of my side of events is written out in a way that I'm like, ooh,
that's not even a conversation we're starting. I'm avoiding conflict by not engaging when
I already know the end outcome is no better than where I'm at. Or if it's, I mean, this
sounds terrible, but the prophet has specifically asked us to like end conflict or whatever
in our lives. And when you want to resolve something and like both parties aren't like
at the same place to get to that resolve. I think you've already testified to this and
I have that experience in my own life. Like you don't have to come to mutually agree on
something to feel peace about the conflict resolving. You can move past that through
with him. And no, it's like, it's just not the time for them to like have this conversation
and process these. And if we engage in like a face-to-face situation, the words that are
going to be spoken are not Christ-like and will not draw us closer to Jesus Christ. And
so give that to me and I'll carry that burden until such a time as maybe it's appropriate
to.
Sometimes that's the best way to do it. Yes. I think we're ready to wrap it up. There
are conversations I think with as particular as family members that like as a parent, like
as a mom. Right. That relationship's not going away. Those are the ones I'm like, this is
what I ask myself. Will this relationship be part of my life next year? Will it be part
of my life in 10 years? Do you do something specific when like when something's pressing
on your mind, something that you want your kids to do like directionally, you want a
change to be made, you're seeing something, you're noticing something. When I consider
this in the words matter, I just kind of want to reiterate that what I learned from this
talk is that if I have a question like in my role as a mother right now or as a spouse,
I want to have this conversation. It feels like maybe it's going to be a difficult thing
to tackle. Just again, reiterate, be in the scriptures and listen to the words of the
prophet. And if this issue doesn't fall within the category that those two things could help
you, it probably isn't that important of a thing. So like maybe don't get that upset
about it. Yeah. Prayer journal or journal it for yourself and get over it. If it has
eternal significance, then you certainly can ask the Lord to direct you to whatever you
need to say the right thing. And to mediate. Yeah, that's a good idea. All right. Let's
wrap it up, girl. Let me end with his testimony. He said, I love the Lord Jesus Christ. He
is – oh, this was good. That's why I put this here. He is, in the words of the Old
Testament prophet Isaiah, wonderful counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting father, the
Prince of Peace. And here I insert, the idea of the many names of Jesus Christ is such
a beautiful thing because he can be everything and anything to anybody, whatever they need.
And so I love – this is just a handful, a small handful of some different names that
have been given to him. But as the apostle John made clear, Jesus Christ himself is the
word. And I thought, what a great talk, title, to say words matter because then I just inserted
Jesus Christ matters. Absolutely. And when we involve him in those difficult conversations
that we think we have to have with ourselves or with the ones that we love around us, that
we can't really go wrong. Love that, Abby. All right. We'll catch you next time. See
you next time.