1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,360 Welcome to Closer to Christ Through Conference. We're two friends who love Jesus, sharing 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:15,800 our own approach to conference. Today we're going to talk about Rise, He Calleth Thee, 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,800 from Elder Massimo de Feo of the Quorum of the Seventy. 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,760 Ooh, you said that so good. Like, you said it good enough, like you maybe speak Italian. 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:24,760 I used to. 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,800 I bet you could if we pressed you hard enough. 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,800 I could. 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,200 So this was a cute, short, simple, very well thought out talk. 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,200 So good. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,520 And helped me think of a lot of good things. But what do you think we want to focus on 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,520 to start with? 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,680 I have a few thoughts on it. And so, yeah, I'm trying to figure out where the best one 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:52,800 is. But overall, it lit a fire in me about talking about Jesus Christ, how He said, we 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,200 need to speak more of Him, not less. And if we don't speak about Him, who will? It's just, 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,840 I feel like it was a rise. Truly, when He says rise, He calleth thee, it felt like a 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,960 rise and a call to action. And I'm here for it. 17 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:12,400 Right. Because social media is prevalent in our society, and it's the way people communicate 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,160 now, it's the way people interact and connect. And what are we willing to put out there? 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,840 Something that generates a lot of likes. Like, if I put something out there about Jesus Christ, 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,680 maybe he's not going to get that many reviews, likes, hits. 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,200 You could get blocked. 22 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Maybe you will get censored. But do you remember, were you going to step away from Instagram 23 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,800 for a little bit or something? Do you remember this? 24 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Yes. 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,480 Do you remember what your process was with that? 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,280 Yes, at the beginning of the year, I felt like a total shift. It just felt different. 27 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:47,400 And I noticed the shift and I was prayer journaling. And I said, Heavenly Father, I'm noticing 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,400 a shift. 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,200 Like in the world or like you're feeling toward? 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,600 Just for me. It just felt different. And so I was trying to figure out why. So I was trying 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,360 to formulate my question. And for me, the best thing to do is to write it down so I 32 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:07,560 can really get it. So I said, Heavenly Father, I'm feeling a difference. And I said, is this 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,880 a time for me to pivot? And I felt, yeah, that would be a good thing. And I said, okay. 34 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,080 So I started writing down different options of things I could do to pivot. It was, you 35 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:23,480 know, leave Instagram entirely. Or I had another one, I forget what it was. And then I said, 36 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,680 or and all of a sudden, this just came to my mind. It wasn't something I was thinking 37 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:33,080 before. But it was, or testify of Jesus Christ more. And it was like, yeah, that's the one 38 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,040 I thought, wow, I thought I already was doing that. That was kind of interesting to me because 39 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,800 I truly felt like I already was. I talk about the beauty of nature that surrounds me and 40 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,040 the peace and the serenity. And I do feel like all of that denotes there's a God that's 41 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:51,320 in my, that's in my bio, you know what I mean? And so I just thought, wow, that's interesting. 42 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:57,640 And it's so funny, because it may not be on my personal Instagram so much. But what am 43 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:05,080 I putting out there more now into our environment is this podcast, we speak more about him. 44 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,680 At the end of this, actually, I think I texted you right afterwards when he finished this 45 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,920 podcast, Elder DeFeo at the very end, he kind of summarized and he says, you know, we need 46 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:20,960 more of our voices, not less. And I was like, oh my gosh, like, I just felt like a thunderbolt 47 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:26,200 to my heart. And I was like, this is my why of doing the podcast. Absolutely. Like if 48 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:32,080 there were ever something, you know, a case against me of do you believe in Jesus Christ? 49 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Is he your absolute best friend? Has he brought you through everything? I would want there 50 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:43,440 to be enough evidence to where someone would convict me of that. I want to be that person. 51 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,400 So it just, um, wow, Abby, thanks for asking that question. 52 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,200 I'm sorry. I know I felt like I threw you under the bus on that, but I remember, I remember 53 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,240 that the, the mood that you were filling on Instagram and it's like, should I just step 54 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:01,960 away from it? It's designed for so much good. It is if we let it. So I've, I listened back 55 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:07,800 to the podcasts, like up to this point that we've put out there kind of as a, like, that's 56 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,360 a scary thing because I know that I speak better English than is coming across this 57 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,480 microphone and it's embarrassing. I'm like, I wish I could redo so much, so many of the 58 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,000 things that I'm saying, but, um, at the end of the day, I don't really care because it 59 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,200 has been multiple opportunities to testify my savior and it's drawn me closer to him. 60 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,920 And what is that? What we said the intent of the podcast is close. We want to get closer 61 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:34,760 to him every day. Um, and so I had mentioned that I didn't really prepare for this latest 62 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,800 conference like I have in one's past. And I referenced a 40 day walk that I did walk 63 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:44,240 with Jesus in like two times ago, but in actual fact, because I was preparing for Easter, 64 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:50,040 I actually did lent this last year, which was a 40 day. And what do I give up since 65 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:55,200 I can't give up smoking or drinking or myriad of things. And I didn't really want to give 66 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:01,360 up sugar. Um, I gave up social media. Yes. I stepped away from it and, uh, a friend of 67 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,000 mine actually put the, put the idea out there and I'm like, you know what? That is sucking 68 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,440 my time away. And so I stepped away from it and I've tentatively like released the reins 69 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,840 like since that day, but maybe cumulatively has spent like three hours on it since Easter. 70 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:20,560 That's been 40 days plus the extra, but this talk did remind me as I was studying for it, 71 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,680 I was like, there is a place, there is a time, there is a purpose for social media. We are 72 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:30,600 doing so many amazing things with, with it. Like, um, what isn't it in this general conference 73 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,840 that we talked about missionary baptism should have plummeted or maybe it was another thing 74 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:38,840 I was reading, but we were expecting that we would get zero baptisms. We're not in COVID 75 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:42,920 time. We're not allowed to, uh, proselyte door to door missionary works can look different. 76 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:48,000 And then we had like 90,000 baptisms or something during COVID. Amazing. Did that happen? I'll 77 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,800 find it. They may, they might've mentioned it or for whatever in my recent study, like 78 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:58,000 that truth came to light and I thought, how, how can it be so bad if it can do so much 79 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:03,120 good? Right? Right. So I did hop on the other day and I posed a question to my friends and 80 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,040 I said, what is something that you're doing in your life right now? You're very proud 81 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,760 of because too many times we just kind of post frivolous things, like a picture that 82 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,160 something that we're eating, Hey, what are you guys making for dinner? And it's very 83 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:20,200 like, like, like low level connection. But I thought if I'm going to get on it, I'm going 84 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,640 to spend some time on it. I want it like, I want to post something that's good so that 85 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,600 I can see something that's good. And so then I'm kind of embarrassed to say this, but I'm 86 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,400 raising my second family now. Like they're fostering children or adopting children. You 87 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,280 know, we're not talking about them raising their grandchildren, which is also a beautiful 88 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:39,520 thing, but like they've raised their children and they're bringing another thing. And another 89 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,200 one of my friends was like, that's not bragging at all. That's super amazing. And I, I had 90 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,680 a chance to just be like, wow, what an amazing thing. You raised one successful family and 91 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,520 like you're doing that again, multiple people talking about the education that they're getting 92 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:57,480 again, growing their lives, expanding, expanding their vision, doing cool things. And so I 93 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:03,320 thought, you know, that's what I want to use social media for, put out the good, receive 94 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,120 the good. And I will say, I do think that I have kind of an eclectic group of friends 95 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:14,560 and definitely not really all members of the same faith that I am. And I don't ever want 96 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:21,000 to offend anybody. And so I like all totally Christmas time Easter, like that savior focused, 97 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:27,280 but to my shame, I think that I could do a better job of testifying of the savior in 98 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:33,580 my social media thing. So the podcast for me is certainly, um, an opportunity to talk 99 00:07:33,580 --> 00:07:40,160 of Jesus Christ, but it's also, um, nobody knows me late. They don't know who Abby and 100 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,780 Amy are. So it's not like they say, Oh, and she's my friend and she's trying to shove 101 00:07:43,780 --> 00:07:48,760 something down my throat. People that come to the podcast are like, like willingly, or 102 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,120 they're looking for general conference. That's kind of a different breed of people. They're 103 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,720 already like Jesus and they want more of him in their lives. And so they're bringing that 104 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,920 extra into it. Like, whereas you get on Facebook and you're like, I didn't want to see that 105 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,800 about him or they're opting in. Right. Right. And so it's something, it's a, it's a fault 106 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:10,840 that I see in myself of, um, my, my concern of offending or stepping on toes being as 107 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,720 vocal about him as I feel about him. So it's a good way to say it. Wake up call for me 108 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,720 that I can do better and I can do more. And I felt, I felt that he was giving that message. 109 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Yeah. You know, when you were saying that Abby about how it feels vulnerable and how 110 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:30,040 you know, we haven't done this before. Right. Yes. I felt the same way. And it's funny when 111 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,440 you said that I was like, Oh my gosh, that's the first principle in that Moss that elder 112 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,640 Moss Motif a O used. He said he acted instead of being acted upon. And then he says, despite 113 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:45,320 his limited circumstances, he used his faith to go beyond his limitations. Oh, hasn't that 114 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,040 been true about the podcast? Right. Yeah. And especially listening back, I'm like, yeah, 115 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,720 that's novice material, but because if it's focused on the savior, like that's how I feel 116 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,680 about like a Sabbath day meeting. I'm like, maybe it wasn't the best written talk that 117 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:02,720 I put out there. This hasn't been, but if it was savior focused, then I walk away thinking 118 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:08,060 that was a great moment in time. Absolutely. Absolutely. I love that. We have that going 119 00:09:08,060 --> 00:09:14,360 for us, Amy. We do. Um, you know, I also, it really goes beautifully into the next one. 120 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,880 When he talks about Abby and I were on a walk the other day and we were talking about the 121 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:23,560 aspect of this talk about the beggars coat, what did you feel when he said he immediately 122 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:27,160 threw away the beggars coat? Like, what, what does that mean to you? So I feel like the 123 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,360 garment is indicative of what he's experienced at the time. And I don't, I wish I knew a 124 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,940 little bit more about what a beggars coat was, but to me, it was saying, I'm not going 125 00:09:34,940 --> 00:09:39,600 to need this garment anymore because I'm going to be a full functioning non-blind person. 126 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,360 I'm not going to have to beg for my existence back in those days. If you're lame or deaf 127 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:49,520 or blind, or you have any number one of these infirmities, like you can't provide a, a live, 128 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:55,200 a living for yourself. You have to require the goodness of others. That's true to help 129 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,920 you survive. And he was so confident in the savior that he physically had never laid his 130 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:03,920 eyes on that he knew he could get rid of the beggars coat. That's it. That's incredible 131 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,760 faith. It truly is. When he said it that way, I was like, Oh my gosh, yes. He immediately 132 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,360 threw that away. He didn't put it on like a proverbial coat stand, like to maybe use 133 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,400 it later. Right? Like it was done. It was gone. And I was just thinking to myself, like 134 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:25,960 in what ways do I wear a beggars coat or in what ways do I, um, you know, just have that 135 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,600 fall back. Do you know what I mean? And so I definitely, I think you're saying to me 136 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,400 that you think blessings can come, but they're sort of conditional, like they're maybe not 137 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,240 going to last forever or that possibly there are millions of ways to wear a beggars coat. 138 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,520 I, I maybe, I mean, maybe need you to keep talking about it. So part of it for me is, 139 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:47,480 um, in what, cause he talks a lot about, he says, there's never a good excuse to say I 140 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,800 am the way I am because of some unfortunate event or some unpleasant, sorry, unpleasant 141 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:58,660 circumstances and I cannot change and I am justified. So in my mind, it kind of is saying 142 00:10:58,660 --> 00:11:03,680 being the victim, right? Cause all of us have had garbage happen to us. Like we live in 143 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:08,320 a fallen world. There are sad things. There are very unjust things that have happened 144 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,720 to each of us. It's just hard, you know? And so how many times do you kind of hold on to 145 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,680 that and say, but this is what happened to me. Like I'm holding onto this beggars coat 146 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:22,280 and to just be able to, you know, either like pull out that lighter and just torch it and 147 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,840 it's just gone. Like I love the thought of that, having it just be gone. I don't want 148 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,440 to lean on it later. I don't want to try to put it on later when I'm feeling like a victim. 149 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:38,720 It's gone because now Jesus Christ is my ultimate, um, focus. Savior. Yes. So you've, you've 150 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,800 heard the saying, um, you believe in Jesus, but do you believe Jesus? You heard that? 151 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,960 Yes. I'd say that. And it's like, you know, physically we don't see him, but do we know 152 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,680 enough about him that we believe that he's true? Yeah. But what are the limitations that 153 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:55,920 we're putting on the great and atoning sacrifice that he made for us? Absolutely. Well, that 154 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,920 will, that will work for everybody else, but it's not going to quite work for me because 155 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:04,200 of the mentality. What if it's even, it's worked every time until now, but this one 156 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,680 might be the one that just breaks the camel, the straw that breaks the camel's back. Right? 157 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:12,360 And I feel like these are types of things that Satan wants to put into our minds and 158 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,680 say, yeah, you're right. You know, there really is no way to know that if, if this time, if 159 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:20,360 it's really going to work out, there isn't, yeah, he'll sit and hound you with that idea. 160 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:25,200 If you're going to let him fill the void spaces in your day and in your thoughts, it's things 161 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,800 that seem impossible. That's what Jesus Christ is extra good at doing the impossible. But 162 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,520 Satan wants us to think like, yeah, he probably isn't going to be able to get this one. Now 163 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,280 the timeline might look a little different. It might be a little more drawn out than the 164 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:43,120 immediate blessing the blind man received of his sight restored, but he had the faith 165 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:50,800 to make this immediate blessing come to pass in his life. So don't put limitations. Right? 166 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:56,760 Come to Jesus. Like the third one, he says, yeah, come to Jesus. That's the third principle. 167 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,840 Allow him to guide him to us. Yeah. I love that. Weren't these just so sweet and simple? 168 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Yes. What I thought was cool. What, what did you call it when it was like situ situational? 169 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,960 He's speaking about a story of a blind man in the gospel of Mark Bartimaeus. That is 170 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,200 the, it's a short and sweet, but he falls three points from the story of the blind man, 171 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,600 but he prefaces it by saying that he himself and his life was going to be experiencing 172 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,960 possible blindness and he has to kind of go to heroics monthly to preserve his eyesight. 173 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,800 And this is a scary thing. So how many times had he read that story in the past? And it 174 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,720 was like, that's a cool story, but then he's reading it now with this life circumstances, 175 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,560 right? You called that something, the gift of experience. Yeah. The gift of experience 176 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:47,480 makes this story stand out and highlight and feel just for him. And the message he can 177 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,280 draw for that he then shared in general conference that made it my message. It made it a message 178 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:58,400 for you. Absolutely. Made a message for all of us to say, um, you know, if Jesus Christ 179 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,160 calls, do I trust that I can, in my blindness, that I can make my way to him so that then 180 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,080 I can ask him for the blessings that I need in that moment. I love that. That's a, that's 181 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:12,400 a look at it. I feel like that's the best synopsis of the whole thing. It was just so 182 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:19,240 good. And like you said, Abby, I feel like there is a special spirit, but the Holy ghost, 183 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:25,480 you know, he, he bears witness of multiple things that are truth. And I feel like he 184 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:35,600 bore witness of, he had the spirit of experience. I felt depth, like the depths of elder Defeo 185 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,440 talking about how this was very, very real to him. And just like you said that it became 186 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,360 real to me as well. And that spirit resonated with me. And I hope that it resonated with 187 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,000 just everyone that was listening to it, because there is going to be something that you don't 188 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,640 want to have happen. You don't want the gift of experience. Usually we don't really want 189 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:56,440 that. We would be happy to just pass it, you know, and, um, but looking back, it's the 190 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,840 thing that gives us our character. It gives us experience and it sanctifies us and it 191 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:09,000 brings us closer to Christ. I love it. Um, he really makes an amazing point of like, 192 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,720 there's literally no limits on the things that we can bring to the savior. Can I go 193 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:19,200 to the scriptures that he was in? Yes. Mark chapter 10, verses 51 and 52, Jesus answered 194 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,040 him and said, what will thou that I should do to thee? So I love this. Jesus posed the 195 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,000 question, what, what do you want from me? Because you know, Jesus, you know that he 196 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,840 knows what the blind man wants from him. But when he asks the question, it's causing the, 197 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,300 the blind man to verbalize what the desire of his heart is and probably out loud and 198 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:40,340 probably the whole crowd can hear it. And I don't know if they've seen him heal the 199 00:15:40,340 --> 00:15:46,520 blind yet. I, I don't, I don't know. I'm, I don't know where it is. I don't either. 200 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,880 Okay. So I wish that I was more of a script orium, but this podcast is not claimed to 201 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:57,160 be, uh, that voiced by people that are experienced like that, but we feel, we feel this. What 202 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,640 will thou that I should do unto thee and the blind men said unto him, Lord, that I might 203 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,320 receive my sight now emphasis on that he's still a blind man. He's made his way to Jesus 204 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:13,000 Christ blind with severe limitations. So when we liken the story to us, it's like we come 205 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,520 to him, we're not fixed. We need something. We, we know that it's him to the source that 206 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:25,920 we're looking for it to have that thing taken care of. And then, um, 52 says Jesus said 207 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,680 unto him, go thy way by faith have made the whole and immediately he received a site and 208 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:36,560 followed Jesus in the way. So faith proceeds miracle for all of us. We have to show that 209 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:42,040 willingness to come to him, to know that he can heal us, to put our heart's desire on 210 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:49,240 the line and ask for big things. And when we have that amount of faith, there really 211 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:55,040 is no blessing that he's going to withhold from us. People will say like, eh, sometimes 212 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,840 it doesn't seem so immediate. So maybe we don't see it, but there's never been a blessing 213 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,600 that I've received that I haven't reflected back on that is much better and bigger than 214 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,940 even the one that I asked for. So really in this blind man's life, a physical eyesight 215 00:17:07,940 --> 00:17:12,000 was the gift that he was asking to be restored. But the fact that he's following the savior 216 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,440 going forward from his life, isn't that the greatest gift? Don't you think he experienced 217 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,040 even more amazing things in his life past the point of healing? 218 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:27,000 Yes. As you were talking, I just had the thought his, um, gift or his blessing of compensation 219 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:33,080 from Jesus Christ was you have seen me spiritually when other people have not. And so here's 220 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,760 your physical sight. I feel like that's what it was. 221 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,600 That's beautiful. Let's wrap it up. We'll catch you next time. 222 00:17:39,600 --> 00:18:06,840 Thanks for coming.