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My brother played AthFest. We're very excited

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to be back for AthFest. I think that AthFest

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is one of the most beautiful events in the country.

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We're here backstage for AthFest. Playing AthFest

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is wonderful. She's an AthFest regular. You've

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got to come to an AthFest. We're talking to the

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live stream for AthFest. Hello, live stream.

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Hello, mom. A nice AthFest slot is really worth

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a lot. Everything that happens at AthFest benefits

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this nonprofit and arts education for K -12 students

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in Athens -Clarke County. We were on one of the

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first AthFest samplers. It was my first AthFest

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ever playing it, which is super cool. AthFest.

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SweatFest. AthFest is so sick. I love seeing,

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like, Athens just has the greatest variety of

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people. AthFest educates. You want to get a slot

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at AthFest. One thing about AthFest, there's

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so much going on. We're playing AthFest. This

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is my first time at AthFest. First time I've

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ever been here for AthFest. I'm here at AthFest.

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You just did sound check for AthFest. Every musician

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you play with wants to play AthFest. It means

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a lot to me to be able to play AthFest. You look

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at the AthFest lineup and you're like, these

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are all new guys and you know they're going to

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be good. You have bands playing everywhere, but

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there's all kinds of different vendors. And can

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you just talk a little bit more about what would

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people experience when they come to AF Fest?

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Everything that happens outdoors is free to the

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public. So the three outdoor stages with musical

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performances on the Kids Fest stage. So those

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are youth performers or performers that are like

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directed at youth, like kids bands. We also have

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dance performances there. Then there's a block

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-long artist market with anywhere from 55 to

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70 artists that are local or regional artisans

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that have, whether it's working with fabrics,

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metal work, they're selling their wares. We also

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have affiliated events. So these are events that

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happen alongside or with. So comedy night, that

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usually happens Thursday night. Yeah. Nate Ball's

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comedy. And then we have the, at UGA Lamar Dodd,

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they have a print and zine expo, I think it's

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called. Yeah. With local and regional artists

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that are making zines or graphic novels, that

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kind of thing. We added a poetry reading at the

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Globe. We usually have a movie night. I think

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we have fire breathers. We're always talking

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about adding more. To date, we've given out over

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$750 ,000 in grants every elementary, middle,

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and high school in Athens, Clark County. All

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of our grants go to serve public school students.

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We have three categories. We give out grants

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for arts equipment. That could be instruments,

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amplifiers, microphones, and... Software platforms

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to be able to record live music or live interviews.

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Drums that went to a school that they utilized

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initially for a math class. Multiplication tables.

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Like all of that stuff, they would do it to a

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rhythm. And then they ended up taking those to

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like a language arts class to do poetry with

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and like figure out meter. One of our grants

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is helping to fund a local middle school was

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invited. Their orchestra was invited to perform

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at Carnegie Hall in New York City. So we're helping

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to fund that trip for 50 middle schoolers to

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go perform in Carnegie Hall. So programs and

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experiences. And then professional development,

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which is something that's so hard for teachers

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to get funded. We're sending one teacher to the

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National Arts Educators Conference in Chicago

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and another teacher to do like a, it's called

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ORF. It's like a whole music teaching method.

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I am so lucky in this job, A, that this job exists,

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and I get to do all these different things and

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wear all these different hats, but also the previous

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executive director and the previous board had

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to do so much work. This is just when the town

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needs income, you know? They're making grants

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to promote arts and music in those schools. So

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basically, they'll give a grant to a band. that,

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like a school band, a middle school band to buy

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violins, or they'll give a grant to an art department

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to buy supplies for such, or to take a trip somewhere

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to do something. So basically they, teachers

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will apply for grants, and then AthFest will

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allocate the money as they see fit. And the grants

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are very, it sounds like very specific for a

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very, like... specific purpose that's right they

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have to promote the music and arts in the schools

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in local schools so at fest being for athens

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they've made a lot of great grants and i think

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once bands understand and people understand that's

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what the money's for i think they'd be more accepting

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and willing the number of like young bands i've

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seen this weekend yeah it was awesome just and

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like That's the thing is like happens has its

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share of like seasoned longtime veteran musicians,

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but You're also seeing like the young kids come.

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Yeah Keep it going when I moved here. There was

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a hundred and twenty or so original bands that

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only played original music no cover bands, which

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is Blew me away like I moved from North Alabama

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Muscle Shoals And we only had a few bands like

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three bands there that would only do original

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songs The fest just kicked off this evening,

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and there's electricity in the air, I think.

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Is that fair? It's the solstice, and if anybody

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comes to our show, I'm going to put a spell on

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y 'all. It's going to be a good spell. I'm Kane

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Stanley. That's one thing I'm sure of. I'm not

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sure if it's a claim to fame, but I'm an Athens,

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Georgia native, and I've been here playing music

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for over 30 years. I did spend some time away

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from Athens before college, and I came back up

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here to go to school, and really, I just wanted

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to play music, and I got a degree while I was

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doing it, and I've been playing ever since, and

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I've probably played in more bands than there

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are letters of the alphabet out of Athens, and

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I've toured the country several times playing

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music. I'm here covering AFFest. That's why I'm

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in town this weekend. Y 'all are playing AFFest.

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Some of you, I'm guessing, have played many AF

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Fests. Some of you have never played AF Fests

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before. But I was the intern in 2007. Laura,

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will you tell us about your internship in 2007,

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please? Let's start there. Okay. It was still

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Troy Aubrey. And there was another guy that was

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doing it, too. I can't remember who it was. I'm

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sorry, that guy. One time ago, I was going bar

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to bar, getting the wristbands to the band so

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that it wasn't chaos to get the wristbands. I

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like the nil -dry flip. Whatever bar they were

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playing at. And I keep forgetting, you couldn't

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just text everybody or anything. Like, I'm finding

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people on MySpace. Like, there is Facebook, but

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it's only college students. I went to, it was

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called Gainesville College, but that's gone now.

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But, like, I had a dual thing. Like, I did high

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school and college at the same time, so I had

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a faith. But it was just chaos. But it was so

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cool, so much fun. And, like, I was even talking

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to 5 -8. Like, they played a rock and relief

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benefit we did for our kid Katrina. And I was

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like, it's just funny how that stuff, like, really,

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like. It gets in your subconscious. And the modern

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skirts are back. And unfortunately, playing while

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we are playing, they're probably tired of me

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saying this, but they were like... Yeah, you're

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the competition now. But it was like, they were...

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I mean, I went to all their shows. My dad and

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I would go to the 41 together. I was always proud

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of him because he was like, all right, if you're

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going to rebel, then let me come with you. And

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he liked it too. He liked it too. I don't have

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an AthFest story because the first AthFest was

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after I already left town. Is this your first

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AthFest? First time I've ever been here for AthFest.

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Yeah, I was either in Los Angeles or yeah, I

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was always gone. when it was invented, so I was

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here in 91 to 99, and then coming back a bunch

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in 2000, but I moved to L .A. in 2003. My band,

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Shank. What's up, Shank? We were on one of the

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first AthFest samplers. They used to put out...

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I miss those. Those are good. Okay, there used

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to be a disc that they would put together, and

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any band that released an album that year was

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able to submit, and then, yeah, we got a song

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on there, and we didn't play that. year, but

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I was happy to be on the album. And then my Afro

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-Caribbean Folkloric Drum Ensemble called Muyuba

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has played several times, and we've opened up

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some shows. And then I've played twice with a

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reggae band called Natty Lovejoys on the main

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stage, and that's always been really fun. And

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there were several years where I was... not in

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town for it, and I don't know. I really like

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that we're doing a night show. This is our first

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gig, and we're playing Half -Fest. It's pretty

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cool. So I've been half -winking at introducing

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slightly famous somebodies. We're introducing.

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That's part of the fun. You've got to show up

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to see who's going to show up, and you never

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know when the next one will be. to all those

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folks for making those hard choices and that

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kind of work so that I get to be, I get to think

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how big we can go. I get to dream big. It's something

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that the community always supported, but it took

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a long time for it to get to where it is now.

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It's really great for the businesses. It's great

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for all the venues that host the Club Crawl.

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I've never seen Athens as alive as I do during

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FFest. Yeah. is a lifeline for a lot of those

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businesses. AthFest is put on and put together

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by a mostly volunteer committee of about 20 people.

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We have one event coordinator, and that is like

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a paid stipend person. And then our booking agent,

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Troy Aubrey, Aubrey Entertainment in town. He's

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been doing it for 20 years. Troy works with a

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booking committee, and that is something that...

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He's done a great job. It was one of my first

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pushes when I started was adding more people

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to the booking committee. And he's done a great

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job of recruiting from the community, recruiting

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a couple of people who work in like booking hip

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hop shows in town. And then going to some of

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the smaller clubs like Flickr, Bouvet and getting

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their booking folks on. They're going to know

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who those smaller up and coming are better than.

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myself or Troy or... There was a lot of diversity

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in terms of the music. It was really a nice representation

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of a lot of different kinds of music. Where is

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the love? Where is the love? Where is the harmony?

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Gone are the days, the days of happiness. Where

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is the love? Where is the love? Where is the

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harmony? Gone are the days, the days of happiness.

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The simple little things like please and thank

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you. I know it don't do no good to complain.

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I learn to roll with the punches. I don't need

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your check, baby, but can you teach me something?

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Don't be acting like my daddy and be trying to

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preach or something, because my life is my own.

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And no, I do not need for nothing. No, I do not

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need for you either. Hey, I'm by myself. I'm

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in a two -seater. Hey, might switch it up and

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get that new beamer. Hey. There's some fests

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that happen where I'm from. It's like they act

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like it's a representation of all the local music,

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and then it's literally all middle -aged white

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people playing blues and folk. I have to report

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on the diversity of our performances for our

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grants. And yes, this was the most diverse year

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by far. And a lot of that is Troy's work recruiting

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great folks for the booking committee. It makes

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it a much better experience too. Like it's not

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just like a token or something. Like this is,

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it's way better to go see 10 different kinds

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of music than it is to see three. Yeah. It's

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just better. Trust, like they're like, oh, the

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club crawl is going to be awesome. Every year

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we get over 500 applications to play at the festival.

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And somebody looks at every single YouTube channel

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they link or everything. Like this year we were

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approved for and completely thought we had like

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a $35 ,000 National Endowment of the Arts grant.

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And that was yanked by executive order. So, yeah,

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those kind of grants are probably not going to

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be available to us for the remainder of this

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administration. So the kind of individual donors

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or just popping in an extra five bucks when you

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buy your pass is going to be even more important

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for us to keep nurturing the next generation

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of Athens artists. So with the booking committee,

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everyone submits. Artists submit, and they submit

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links and all their info, and then there's a

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period during which the members of the booking

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committee go through the spreadsheets and check

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everyone out and make your own list of priorities,

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maybes, and then you just have your no's or your...

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Backup backups. But nobody's like, nobody really

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campaigns against people being on. They just

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have their picks for it. Yeah. Everyone basically,

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yeah, we have our picks for it. Unless I can,

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the only thing I can think of is if someone is,

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I know that this act is very problematic in some

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way. It doesn't represent AthFest or. I don't

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know. It would have to be pretty extreme to be

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like, I have to let you guys know about this

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person or band. Otherwise, after we go through

00:17:41.289 --> 00:17:44.470
looking at the list, we come together as a group

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with kind of our picks. And Troy Aubrey is the

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head of it. And Troy already always comes with

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who he's picked for headliners and who he has

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offers out for. And we fill in the blanks. is

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essentially how the booking committee works.

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This year it was really lovely because we had

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an intern who was able to facilitate sending

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out the contracts in the past we've split it

00:18:43.109 --> 00:18:46.789
up gotten the contracts back from people but

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we do split it up as far as who's contacting

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who about the initial offers and getting things

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How do you make sure that the bands that share

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members don't play at the same time? Because

00:19:23.509 --> 00:19:25.089
that's got to be like, that's got to be like

00:19:25.089 --> 00:19:28.490
a real concern. It definitely is. And that's

00:19:28.490 --> 00:19:31.509
Troy. That's Troy Aubrey. That's wild. Because

00:19:31.509 --> 00:19:34.049
like John Neff, who I'm actually going to go

00:19:34.049 --> 00:19:36.690
talk to this afternoon, he played in three different

00:19:36.690 --> 00:19:38.609
bands at this year's AF Fest. And I was just

00:19:38.609 --> 00:19:40.470
joking with him. We should just call it Neff

00:19:40.470 --> 00:19:43.410
Fest. Just Neff. But that's a real concern. Like

00:19:43.410 --> 00:19:45.430
I can think of other, several other examples

00:19:45.430 --> 00:19:49.970
where people. are in multiple bands and that

00:19:49.970 --> 00:19:54.049
it's a lot to keep track of it's not just the

00:19:54.049 --> 00:19:57.289
hundred or so artists that play it's way more

00:19:57.289 --> 00:19:59.710
than that your hip -hop calendar was like very

00:19:59.710 --> 00:20:36.420
useful I love Athens. It's an amazing... I'm

00:20:36.420 --> 00:20:38.480
going to go home in a good mood. And this is

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a special town. And I mean, honestly, there's

00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:43.160
no place like Athens. And the musical history

00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:47.230
is really cool. So... It's got a little something

00:20:47.230 --> 00:20:51.049
that nowhere else has, and I like capture that

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and try to hold on to it for as long as I can

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whenever I come here. Basically, it's the time

00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:29.720
that almost every local band plays. You can finally

00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:33.279
see the bands you haven't seen or some new band

00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:35.640
that's good or whatever. Just kind of everybody

00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:40.220
gets a lot of good camaraderie and a lot of good

00:21:40.220 --> 00:21:43.680
shows. I don't know. And then everybody comes

00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:47.819
out. It's a hyper -local thing, but it's... We

00:21:47.819 --> 00:21:49.380
used to go up, Brian, when I think about it.

00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:51.339
Yeah, we used to go up from Augusta. Yeah. I

00:21:51.339 --> 00:21:54.779
couldn't wait. The first time I went, Jason Isbell

00:21:54.779 --> 00:21:57.299
was playing, like, right after Here We Rest came

00:21:57.299 --> 00:21:59.559
out. So it must have been, like, 2011, I guess,

00:21:59.660 --> 00:22:01.019
or something like that. I remember the outdoor

00:22:01.019 --> 00:22:05.539
stage. They closed it out Sunday, and the sky

00:22:05.539 --> 00:22:08.859
opened up, like, right after a set. The camaraderie

00:22:08.859 --> 00:22:10.500
is something you mentioned in the music scene

00:22:10.500 --> 00:22:14.049
in Athens and in MathFest in general. It's unlike

00:22:14.049 --> 00:22:16.690
anything I've ever seen in a music scene or an

00:22:16.690 --> 00:22:20.130
art scene in general. It's really something to

00:22:20.130 --> 00:22:23.390
admire and be proud of. Where do you think it

00:22:23.390 --> 00:22:25.809
comes from, man? Everybody's just kind of interested.

00:22:26.069 --> 00:22:27.750
And they're like, what are you up to? What are

00:22:27.750 --> 00:22:32.150
you doing? And then the people are very interesting

00:22:32.150 --> 00:22:35.069
there, too, because they're interested. And there's

00:22:35.069 --> 00:22:39.069
not a lot of posturing and stuff. They're just

00:22:39.069 --> 00:22:41.509
interested in what other people have going on.

00:22:42.109 --> 00:22:45.450
so it stays supportive in that regard i lived

00:22:45.450 --> 00:22:47.589
in athens and we were in atlanta and atlanta

00:22:47.589 --> 00:22:51.450
was good to us it was bigger and kind of clicky

00:22:51.450 --> 00:22:54.930
and easy to get lost and i was like guys i think

00:22:54.930 --> 00:22:56.589
it might be good if we were in athens and we

00:22:56.589 --> 00:22:59.569
came back there and it was just as good or better

00:22:59.569 --> 00:23:02.809
and you just didn't feel any of that weird grub

00:23:02.809 --> 00:23:05.450
with other bands it was like none of that it

00:23:05.450 --> 00:23:07.210
was just like everybody was cool i've noticed

00:23:07.210 --> 00:23:09.210
it in the comedy scene in athens too i think

00:23:09.210 --> 00:23:11.630
the comedy scene is the same way Me and Katie,

00:23:11.750 --> 00:23:13.930
we live in Forest Heights, a neighborhood. It's

00:23:13.930 --> 00:23:16.829
a really cool neighborhood. Like, not cool like

00:23:16.829 --> 00:23:19.069
a hip neighborhood, but like a nice. I don't

00:23:19.069 --> 00:23:20.910
know, it's just that it's where Taiwanese go

00:23:20.910 --> 00:23:23.710
to retire. Yeah, yeah. It's like affordable and

00:23:23.710 --> 00:23:27.250
really nice. Quiet. And so, yeah, you know. Yeah,

00:23:27.490 --> 00:23:28.630
that's what you want. And so we're there for,

00:23:28.670 --> 00:23:30.970
you know, I don't want to go anywhere, you know.

00:23:30.970 --> 00:23:32.930
It's crazy. I mean, there have been amazing places,

00:23:32.930 --> 00:23:34.329
but there's never been a place where I'm like,

00:23:34.369 --> 00:23:37.049
oh, this is where, you know, we've got to move

00:23:37.049 --> 00:23:38.869
here. We're just like, I feel like it's like

00:23:38.869 --> 00:23:41.809
been home for so long and it's kind of, it's

00:23:41.809 --> 00:23:44.549
almost like engineered for. what i do you know

00:23:44.549 --> 00:23:47.849
that's right it's not too big it's not uh -huh

00:23:47.849 --> 00:23:50.609
i couldn't do a big city uh for any long period

00:23:50.609 --> 00:23:53.430
of time yeah you just feel at home when you come

00:23:53.430 --> 00:23:55.450
yeah it's very much and i think there's something

00:23:55.450 --> 00:23:59.410
about the whole i think like the things with

00:23:59.410 --> 00:24:02.890
the college the university the combination of

00:24:02.890 --> 00:24:05.349
the university like and people you know bands

00:24:05.349 --> 00:24:08.049
coming through and then leaving and and honestly

00:24:08.049 --> 00:24:09.970
people just come back it's funny when people

00:24:09.970 --> 00:24:12.279
like move away There's always that like, all

00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:14.819
right, good luck with everything. We'll see you

00:24:14.819 --> 00:24:18.079
in 20 years or 10 years or five years. And honestly,

00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:19.819
I probably have like four or five friends who

00:24:19.819 --> 00:24:21.839
have left and moved back. I started going to

00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.299
AthFest definitely when I was in college. And

00:24:24.299 --> 00:24:27.640
so I went, I want to say the first one I saw

00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.220
the drive -by truckers. And I can't remember

00:24:30.220 --> 00:24:32.700
if it was an AthFest or just they happened to

00:24:32.700 --> 00:24:36.369
be playing, but I think it was AthFest. We're

00:24:36.369 --> 00:24:39.950
playing at a pizza place that was on Baxter Street.

00:24:40.130 --> 00:24:44.210
Oh, wow. Like maybe outside, like on a deck.

00:24:44.910 --> 00:24:47.250
And I got my friend to go with me to that one.

00:24:47.589 --> 00:24:51.170
And then I want to say the next year, my brother

00:24:51.170 --> 00:24:54.029
played AFT Fest. And so with his band, the Blue

00:24:54.029 --> 00:24:56.990
Laws. And so I got to go to that AFT Fest. And

00:24:56.990 --> 00:24:59.349
that was really cool. That might have been when

00:24:59.349 --> 00:25:03.000
Jason Isbell joined. I remember seeing. Jason

00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:05.359
Isbell just come up and he had this powder blue

00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:08.279
suit on and that was, and it was really cool.

00:25:08.380 --> 00:25:10.299
One of the first bands I'd seen when I moved

00:25:10.299 --> 00:25:13.640
to Athens and had just started school was Drive

00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:15.099
-By Truckers and this little pizza joint and

00:25:15.099 --> 00:25:17.119
here they were like on this gigantic, this was

00:25:17.119 --> 00:26:11.670
my second time. I got super lucky last year.

00:26:11.970 --> 00:26:15.309
I didn't apply to the end last year, but I had

00:26:15.309 --> 00:26:19.609
asked someone if they had any openings for singer

00:26:19.609 --> 00:26:22.789
-songwriters anytime soon, and it just so happened

00:26:22.789 --> 00:26:25.049
that they had one for AthFest and The Globe.

00:26:25.450 --> 00:26:29.230
And I was like, oh, this year I applied for AthFest

00:26:29.230 --> 00:26:33.269
as early as I possibly could, and it means a

00:26:33.269 --> 00:26:36.269
lot to me to be able to play AthFest, because...

00:26:36.569 --> 00:26:39.329
going to it for so long for so many years it's

00:26:39.329 --> 00:26:44.049
a very important festival to me and to be a part

00:26:44.049 --> 00:26:46.970
of it it's just such an honor watching my brother

00:26:46.970 --> 00:26:50.329
and his band be a part of it to me being a part

00:26:50.329 --> 00:26:53.529
of it and then all the years in between it's

00:26:53.529 --> 00:26:56.009
just very magical last year after i played a

00:26:56.009 --> 00:26:58.369
teenager came up to me and told me how much my

00:26:58.369 --> 00:27:01.789
songs meant to her and i was like oh my god thank

00:27:01.789 --> 00:27:05.779
you so much It was just really beautiful. And

00:27:05.779 --> 00:27:08.740
what's also, like, really beautiful about it

00:27:08.740 --> 00:27:11.839
to me is that, like, the city turns out for it.

00:27:11.859 --> 00:27:15.440
And that's really amazing. And that's the other

00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:17.299
side, I think, of the music scene that we haven't

00:27:17.299 --> 00:27:19.839
really talked about is there are just really

00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:24.960
good fans in Athens. I 100 ,000 % agree. People

00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:30.220
are really good at loving shit. And just not

00:27:30.220 --> 00:27:34.039
caring. not having a care in the world about

00:27:34.039 --> 00:28:06.420
it and being like, I'm just gonna dance. My special

00:28:06.420 --> 00:28:09.019
guest is Fedden. Fedden is a stand -up comedian

00:28:09.019 --> 00:28:11.460
and podcaster. I'm going to hand it over to him

00:28:11.460 --> 00:28:13.660
and let him talk to you about what it's like

00:28:13.660 --> 00:28:16.460
to do podcasts and get to meet all these people

00:28:16.460 --> 00:28:18.420
and get to interview them. And you have a special

00:28:18.420 --> 00:28:20.460
guest yourself, right? I do. Let's introduce

00:28:20.460 --> 00:28:23.180
this guy. Yeah, I got Ben Spraker from a band

00:28:23.180 --> 00:28:26.799
called The Arcs who's playing tomorrow. And he's

00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.339
been on my podcast. My podcast is called Overeducated

00:28:30.339 --> 00:28:33.579
and Underemployed. I'm here at AppFest with Ben

00:28:33.579 --> 00:28:35.819
Spraker. I'm here at AppFest. I'm actually from

00:28:35.819 --> 00:28:38.059
Florida. I'm not from Athens. The first time

00:28:38.059 --> 00:28:41.019
I came here was to see Jason Isbell right here

00:28:41.019 --> 00:28:42.819
at this stage that we're sitting right next to.

00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:46.259
And I've been coming back ever since. I love

00:28:46.259 --> 00:28:47.779
this city. I've been coming here since 2010.

00:28:49.329 --> 00:28:52.289
Ben, what brought you to Athens in the first

00:28:52.289 --> 00:28:55.390
place? Let's start there. I grew up in Virginia,

00:28:55.450 --> 00:29:00.670
and I ended up here. Yeah, I just ended up moving

00:29:00.670 --> 00:29:03.369
here to go to school at UGA like a lot of people

00:29:03.369 --> 00:29:05.269
and ended up staying because I just fell in love

00:29:05.269 --> 00:29:10.950
with it. All right, yeah. So it's one of those

00:29:10.950 --> 00:29:13.690
places that it can get monotonous, but you just

00:29:13.690 --> 00:29:17.049
can't quite leave it. Keep it real close. Can't

00:29:17.049 --> 00:29:19.190
really leave it. It's just such a good place

00:29:19.190 --> 00:29:22.809
to live. Yeah. And play music and all that stuff.

00:29:23.029 --> 00:29:25.769
Be creative. A lot of creative people here. A

00:29:25.769 --> 00:29:28.289
lot of infrastructure for creative things. It

00:29:28.289 --> 00:29:30.410
almost feels like the creative people are the

00:29:30.410 --> 00:29:33.170
majority and everybody else is the minority in

00:29:33.170 --> 00:29:34.869
this city. Yeah. Where it's like most places

00:29:34.869 --> 00:29:38.309
that's not the case. That's right. When I meet

00:29:38.309 --> 00:29:41.049
somebody and I ask them if they play music and

00:29:41.049 --> 00:29:44.990
they say no, I say God bless you. Yeah. Somebody

00:29:44.990 --> 00:30:59.960
has to just listen for God's sake. And I'll say

00:30:59.960 --> 00:31:02.140
that is kind of the philosophy behind my podcast.

00:31:03.099 --> 00:31:06.859
I'm a historian, but I also really just approach

00:31:06.859 --> 00:31:10.740
this as a fan. I really love music. I've loved

00:31:10.740 --> 00:31:15.359
live music since I was a teenager. I think that

00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:19.480
AthFest is one of the most beautiful events in

00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:21.759
the country because of the way this city comes

00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:25.460
together. to bring so many different types of

00:31:25.460 --> 00:31:28.279
music. People do show up. The people do show

00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:31.720
up, which is amazing. Even though every musician

00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.660
in town is playing, there still somehow manages

00:31:34.660 --> 00:31:37.619
to be an audience. Yeah, and they expect you

00:31:37.619 --> 00:31:41.839
to play your own material. If you play too many

00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.779
covers, people start looking at you funny. Whereas

00:31:45.779 --> 00:31:48.740
most cities, it's the other way around. If you

00:31:48.740 --> 00:31:51.559
hear too many songs they don't recognize, from

00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:55.440
wherever. I think that's definitely true in my

00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.000
city, in Tallahassee. The majority of the bands

00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.579
playing are cover bands. They're playing in bars

00:32:01.579 --> 00:32:04.400
while people are eating dinner. It's not like

00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.400
here where the music is the main focus most of

00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.380
the time. You play in a few different bands in

00:32:10.380 --> 00:32:12.859
Athens. I do, I do. Athens is small enough that

00:32:12.859 --> 00:32:16.279
it isn't too hard to get around. Yeah. Like,

00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.930
a lot of these... Band practices are like five

00:32:18.930 --> 00:32:21.150
minutes from my house, so it's really good. That's

00:32:21.150 --> 00:32:23.369
also, I think, the thing about AppFest is a lot

00:32:23.369 --> 00:32:25.849
of cities could never do something like this

00:32:25.849 --> 00:32:29.390
because the number of venues and bars in downtown

00:32:29.390 --> 00:32:33.809
Athens in a single location is such a unique

00:32:33.809 --> 00:32:36.809
kind of thing for a city of this size, especially.

00:32:38.309 --> 00:32:43.049
What do you think is, like, the other component?

00:32:43.890 --> 00:32:45.750
What do you think he just said about there being

00:32:45.750 --> 00:32:49.559
the number of Different bars and venues. I think

00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:53.119
the story that I always read is that they built

00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:57.619
the mall out of town a little bit and all of

00:32:57.619 --> 00:33:00.000
the stores moved to the mall thinking that was

00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.119
where it was at. All these empty storefronts

00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.140
were there and then bars and music venues filled

00:33:06.140 --> 00:33:09.599
those spots and that was the impetus for the

00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:15.349
Athens music scene. But yeah, it's... A competitive

00:33:15.349 --> 00:33:18.529
spirit, honestly, is what it is. It's like everybody

00:33:18.529 --> 00:33:21.930
is trying to be the best, and everyone's just

00:33:21.930 --> 00:33:25.009
trying to play the best music they can, write

00:33:25.009 --> 00:33:28.690
the best songs they can. And you want to get

00:33:28.690 --> 00:33:30.769
a slotted -ass vest. You want to do this and

00:33:30.769 --> 00:33:35.049
that. It's competitive. Also, the city, because

00:33:35.049 --> 00:33:37.829
of the reputation of the music scene, does draw

00:33:37.829 --> 00:33:42.430
people move here for that reason. There's that,

00:33:42.529 --> 00:33:45.160
too. Your band, The Arcs, is playing tomorrow.

00:33:45.380 --> 00:33:47.599
That's right. Tell us about that band. So The

00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:51.440
Arcs are playing tomorrow, Saturday, at 8 .30

00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.900
at Nowhere Bar, one of our very favorite places,

00:33:55.099 --> 00:33:57.140
one of the best places in Athens. I love Nowhere

00:33:57.140 --> 00:34:00.579
Bar. The coldest beer in Athens. There's ice

00:34:00.579 --> 00:34:03.000
flakes in it occasionally. That's right, that's

00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.700
right. Yeah, but The Arcs are a band I've been

00:34:05.700 --> 00:34:08.639
in for a number of years with. The drummer, I

00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:10.760
grew up with him. We were like little kids playing

00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.019
t -ball together. And then other guys we've known

00:34:15.019 --> 00:34:18.719
for many years. It's one of those two songwriter

00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:23.159
bands where you have two of the guys taking turns

00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.280
singing because they were singing the songs that

00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:28.260
they wrote. So it's a dual lead singer situation

00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:30.800
and a dual guitar situation, for God's sake.

00:34:30.940 --> 00:34:38.090
Oh, my goodness. Buckle up, people. Think about

00:34:38.090 --> 00:34:41.630
a gig at AthFest versus playing just another

00:34:41.630 --> 00:34:45.369
show. If it's an outdoor stage, it's really hot,

00:34:45.469 --> 00:34:48.510
so you better be ready to deal with some salt

00:34:48.510 --> 00:34:54.190
in your eyes, as they say. But also, playing

00:34:54.190 --> 00:34:57.130
at AthFest is wonderful because people come there,

00:34:57.250 --> 00:35:01.630
come to AthFest, engaged, ready to pay attention

00:35:01.630 --> 00:35:04.309
to who is playing, and then they want to engage

00:35:04.309 --> 00:35:06.710
with that band if they like them. They'll follow

00:35:06.710 --> 00:35:10.110
you and all that stuff. It's like people are

00:35:10.110 --> 00:35:13.650
ready to get halfway paying attention. That is

00:35:13.650 --> 00:35:17.190
cool, too. Yeah. But, yeah, like a nice AthFest

00:35:17.190 --> 00:35:19.550
slot is really worth a lot because you can get

00:35:19.550 --> 00:35:21.170
in front of a lot of people who never would have

00:35:21.170 --> 00:35:23.690
heard you otherwise. Have you ever considered

00:35:23.690 --> 00:35:26.190
leaving Athens? Have you ever even considered

00:35:26.190 --> 00:35:29.409
it? No, no. You don't strike me as someone that

00:35:29.409 --> 00:35:33.369
has. I got married once and moved to Atlanta

00:35:33.369 --> 00:35:35.969
for this person. But then as soon as that didn't

00:35:35.969 --> 00:35:38.750
work out, I came right back. Because suddenly

00:35:38.750 --> 00:35:42.989
it was twice as expensive to live in Atlanta.

00:35:43.150 --> 00:35:47.030
Everything is twice as expensive, at least. Yeah.

00:35:47.050 --> 00:35:50.559
Yeah. the big city and things have gotten a lot

00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.480
more expensive here over the years too but i

00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:55.880
still as someone who travels a lot like i do

00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:58.219
notice that it's still lower than average yeah

00:35:58.219 --> 00:36:01.400
yeah the idea is i think everyone who charges

00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:05.119
anyone for anything is thinking college students

00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:09.139
they got no money gone see i think it makes sense

00:36:09.139 --> 00:36:14.519
to to want the repeat ability of Students being

00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:16.360
able to come back over and over. And that's an

00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.059
interesting thing about playing music in this

00:36:18.059 --> 00:36:20.840
town for any number, any amount of time. You'll

00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.619
have your band. You'll have people coming to

00:36:23.619 --> 00:36:25.900
see your band. And then suddenly it just goes

00:36:25.900 --> 00:36:28.139
away. And you're like, what happened? All those

00:36:28.139 --> 00:36:30.059
people graduated. And now you've got to start

00:36:30.059 --> 00:36:33.559
over. So this band is Improvement Movement. And

00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:35.340
you're actually the person that turned me on

00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:37.639
to them in the first place. I'm so excited. I'm

00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:39.159
so excited about them, too. Let's talk about

00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:40.760
them for a few minutes before they go on. And

00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:42.420
then let's go watch them. They're from Atlanta.

00:36:44.579 --> 00:36:48.320
All four of them can sing like birds and play

00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.619
their instruments real well, and they write really

00:36:50.619 --> 00:36:54.500
catchy songs, and they sing together in harmony.

00:36:55.019 --> 00:36:58.559
Their harmonies are magical. It's mind -bending.

00:36:58.619 --> 00:37:02.739
So I have been looking forward to this for a

00:37:02.739 --> 00:37:05.699
while. I'm really glad you guys are going to

00:37:05.699 --> 00:37:08.500
be able to show it. You were sitting in the 40

00:37:08.500 --> 00:37:11.179
-watt, and they were playing in Tallahassee a

00:37:11.179 --> 00:37:14.219
few days later. Yeah. I was like, I have to go.

00:37:14.579 --> 00:37:19.219
And they blew me away. They are hard to describe.

00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:21.860
And there's tons of clips. You can pull up anything,

00:37:22.099 --> 00:37:24.659
and it's amazing live. They sing like birds,

00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.860
and their songs are catchy. And just now, we

00:37:28.860 --> 00:37:31.960
heard the guy, the singer, sound checking. And

00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.920
he sang a little bit, and I knew it immediately.

00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:40.309
So I am pumped. about this show yeah i love this

00:37:40.309 --> 00:37:42.650
band i'm really excited for them how many athvests

00:37:42.650 --> 00:37:47.409
have you played oh my god 10 something like that

00:37:47.409 --> 00:37:50.469
i don't play every year because some sometimes

00:37:50.469 --> 00:37:52.969
you just want to go to it it's really nice to

00:37:52.969 --> 00:37:55.409
just go and then there's some years where every

00:37:55.409 --> 00:37:57.610
band every musician you play with wants to play

00:37:57.610 --> 00:37:59.409
at fest and you're trying to book them all and

00:37:59.409 --> 00:38:02.030
it's really hard and then you're like schlepping

00:38:02.030 --> 00:38:04.210
your gear up and down washington street at a

00:38:04.210 --> 00:38:08.360
breakneck pace and it's yeah It's a mixed bag,

00:38:08.500 --> 00:38:12.099
but I love AthFest. So AthFest raises money for

00:38:12.099 --> 00:38:16.440
grant programs for schools and arts. Yeah. All

00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.320
across the county and the city. Yeah. What are

00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.219
some of your favorite younger bands to come out

00:38:23.219 --> 00:38:25.880
of Athens? All right. Well, I just saw one I'd

00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.860
never heard before called Bayou Princess. And

00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:33.480
if you like, if you know anything about Athens

00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:37.829
music history and pylon and. some of those kinds

00:38:37.829 --> 00:38:44.630
of bands time toy limbo districts anyway they're

00:38:44.630 --> 00:38:48.429
weird and danceable and that is the mixture of

00:38:48.429 --> 00:38:52.610
athens the classic athens and bayou princess

00:38:52.610 --> 00:38:55.889
has got it in spades go out and check them out

00:38:55.889 --> 00:38:59.650
they killed on the hull street stage today i

00:38:59.650 --> 00:39:02.289
was like they got the goods who else are you

00:39:02.289 --> 00:39:05.550
looking forward to this weekend oh man um Tonight,

00:39:05.789 --> 00:39:08.730
Dash Riprock are at the Georgia Theater tonight.

00:39:09.030 --> 00:39:11.610
I interviewed them earlier today for an episode

00:39:11.610 --> 00:39:14.110
of Overeducated and Underemployed. That's where

00:39:14.110 --> 00:39:15.929
I'll be late night tonight, too. They are the

00:39:15.929 --> 00:39:18.090
party. That band brings the party. I will at

00:39:18.090 --> 00:39:20.909
1145 at the Georgia Theater. I will be with Dash

00:39:20.909 --> 00:40:15.869
Riprock. And then Shakey at the Nowhere Bar after

00:40:15.869 --> 00:40:17.309
that. I got to see them one time open for the

00:40:17.309 --> 00:40:19.449
drive -by truckers, and they were phenomenal.

00:40:19.730 --> 00:40:24.170
Yeah, they're a local treasure. I really enjoyed

00:40:24.170 --> 00:40:26.969
them. They take everything that's cool, punk

00:40:26.969 --> 00:40:31.429
rock, but they apply a Burt Bacharach filter

00:40:31.429 --> 00:40:34.610
to it in the best possible way. A lot of cool

00:40:34.610 --> 00:40:39.480
twists and turns in their songs, harmonies. Pure

00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:42.480
punk ferocity. It's wonderful. They're incredible.

00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.980
Go see them. I'm really looking forward to Lily

00:40:45.980 --> 00:40:49.059
Hyatt over at the Georgia Theater. Daughter of

00:40:49.059 --> 00:40:51.199
John Hyatt. I actually just talked to her earlier

00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.380
today, too. Also, MK Barnes is playing over at

00:40:54.380 --> 00:40:56.800
Hendershot. She's great. I talked to her earlier

00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:00.070
this week. Great singer. I have interviewed probably

00:41:00.070 --> 00:41:02.269
20 different musicians that are playing this

00:41:02.269 --> 00:41:04.550
weekend over the course of this podcast. Wow.

00:41:04.929 --> 00:41:07.050
After the stream's over tonight, if you want

00:41:07.050 --> 00:41:08.429
to learn more about one of these artists, you

00:41:08.429 --> 00:41:11.730
can probably start with Ben Sprakers. So some

00:41:11.730 --> 00:41:13.269
other bands I'm really looking forward to this

00:41:13.269 --> 00:41:15.989
weekend. We talked about tonight, but I'm really

00:41:15.989 --> 00:41:19.530
looking forward to seeing the Arcs play. Me too.

00:41:19.690 --> 00:41:22.409
We haven't played in a bit of time. I'm going

00:41:22.409 --> 00:41:24.329
to be holding up a mirror because Ben hasn't

00:41:24.329 --> 00:41:26.070
been able to watch himself play in a very long

00:41:26.070 --> 00:41:30.730
time. I'm also really excited to see the Lanes

00:41:30.730 --> 00:41:33.789
play. Oh, man, they're amazing. That's Kevin

00:41:33.789 --> 00:41:36.230
Lane, who's also in the Arcs, but he has a band

00:41:36.230 --> 00:41:39.969
with his brother. He and his brother, of course,

00:41:39.989 --> 00:41:41.570
have been playing music together since they were

00:41:41.570 --> 00:41:43.789
kids, and they're called the Lanes. It's Matt

00:41:43.789 --> 00:41:48.309
and Kevin Lane, and they used to be in a local

00:41:48.309 --> 00:41:51.320
band in Athens called The Possibilities. Out

00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:54.380
is one of my favorite power pop records of all

00:41:54.380 --> 00:41:57.440
time. Yeah, it's a classic. Kevin's an amazing

00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.739
songwriter, man. He is. He is. He's quite good.

00:42:01.019 --> 00:42:03.579
Pylon Reenactment Society is playing this weekend.

00:42:03.739 --> 00:42:05.260
Yeah. I don't have it in front of me exactly

00:42:05.260 --> 00:42:06.900
when their set is, but look it up. I think it's

00:42:06.900 --> 00:42:09.440
tomorrow night sometime. Yeah. Pylon Reenactment

00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.119
Society. Go check that out. That includes the

00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:16.789
real, actual singer of Pylon. is in the Pylon

00:42:16.789 --> 00:42:18.690
Reenactment Society. I've got to say, I love

00:42:18.690 --> 00:42:21.670
their new records as much as I love the old Pylon

00:42:21.670 --> 00:42:24.730
records. They're great. They've done a really

00:42:24.730 --> 00:42:26.909
great job. Vanessa's done a great job of putting

00:42:26.909 --> 00:42:29.550
together a band that really holds that sound

00:42:29.550 --> 00:42:32.110
together. Yeah, they fly the flag for it, but

00:42:32.110 --> 00:42:37.170
bring something new to it. I've known Jason and

00:42:37.170 --> 00:42:40.210
Kay since I was a boy. I've known those people

00:42:40.210 --> 00:42:44.679
a long time. best people and just top level musicians.

00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.360
We've been graced by the presence of Gregory

00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:51.940
from Athens, Georgia Live Music on YouTube. On

00:42:51.940 --> 00:42:55.579
YouTube, Athens, Georgia Live Music. Yeah. I

00:42:55.579 --> 00:42:57.739
didn't quite realize it, but someone in Flagpole

00:42:57.739 --> 00:43:00.440
pointed out that Athens has the most well -documented

00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.320
music scene in the country thanks to this man.

00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:07.329
That's amazing. Yeah. I've used his site as a

00:43:07.329 --> 00:43:09.409
resource for a lot of my interviews, so I really

00:43:09.409 --> 00:43:11.710
appreciate everything you do, man. I've pulled

00:43:11.710 --> 00:43:15.510
some of my own band's promo material from your

00:43:15.510 --> 00:43:17.869
videos, too. Support live music and Bryce the

00:43:17.869 --> 00:43:22.369
Energy. I'm filming them tonight. Oh, man. Dude.

00:43:24.869 --> 00:43:29.550
I'll call you about 3 a .m. Okay. But I don't

00:43:29.550 --> 00:43:31.530
know, because the reality of that is I've got

00:43:31.530 --> 00:43:33.230
to be here at 11 o 'clock tomorrow. I need to

00:43:33.230 --> 00:43:35.500
start taking position. Yeah. In front of the

00:43:35.500 --> 00:43:37.300
stage. I'm so excited. I really appreciate you

00:43:37.300 --> 00:43:39.280
joining us, Ben. Yeah, man. Thanks for coming

00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.699
out. Always a pleasure. Yeah, thanks for coming

00:43:41.699 --> 00:43:44.239
out for the live stream. And make sure you catch

00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.820
the ARCs tomorrow. Tell us what time and place

00:43:46.820 --> 00:43:49.900
one more time. The ARCs at Nowhere Bar. Thank

00:43:49.900 --> 00:43:52.019
you so much, Ben. Make sure you check out the

00:43:52.019 --> 00:43:54.400
ARCs. I've been looking forward to this. Snakeball,

00:43:54.460 --> 00:43:57.800
y 'all. Athens, Georgia. Juggler TV. FFES 2026.

00:43:58.099 --> 00:43:59.980
Look at this beautiful face and add me on the

00:43:59.980 --> 00:45:27.769
socials. Love you. FFES. They're one of my favorite

00:45:27.769 --> 00:45:32.349
bands out of Athens. They are also in a bunch

00:45:32.349 --> 00:45:35.750
of different other bands around town, too. Kevin

00:45:35.750 --> 00:45:37.849
Lane, the singer, he's also in a band called

00:45:37.849 --> 00:45:42.210
The Arcs that I watched last night over at Nowhere

00:45:42.210 --> 00:45:47.469
Bar. They were fantastic. Hey, we got Matt. Do

00:45:47.469 --> 00:45:49.949
you want to jump in for a second? We got Matt

00:45:49.949 --> 00:45:52.730
Lane here. He's the drummer of The Lanes, and

00:45:52.730 --> 00:45:56.420
it's an honor to have you here, man. Sorry, I'm

00:45:56.420 --> 00:45:58.559
a little out of breath. I imagine so. You just

00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:00.300
played your heart out, didn't you? Hot, yeah.

00:46:01.579 --> 00:46:04.159
It's really brutally hot out here. I'm jealous

00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:06.320
of the folks watching this at home right now,

00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.260
to be honest with you. They're on their couches.

00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.340
Yeah. Matt, how many different aft fests have

00:46:13.340 --> 00:46:15.800
you played with different bands over the years?

00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:19.159
Oh, God. I'd have to think about it. We played

00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.500
the very first one, Possibilities Dead. Matt's

00:46:22.500 --> 00:46:25.380
also... He was the first drummer of the Drive

00:46:25.380 --> 00:46:28.800
-By Truckers. He was in a band called The Possibilities.

00:46:29.380 --> 00:46:33.340
And The Lanes is the current project that he's

00:46:33.340 --> 00:46:36.820
in with his brother, Kevin. What is it like getting

00:46:36.820 --> 00:46:38.219
to play with your brother again? It's always

00:46:38.219 --> 00:46:42.599
good. We've always done things in some form,

00:46:42.659 --> 00:46:45.719
side bands or real band. We've always done it.

00:46:47.449 --> 00:46:49.409
But we've had this Lane thing going for a while.

00:46:49.510 --> 00:46:51.730
It's been fun. It's not something that we do

00:46:51.730 --> 00:46:54.630
a lot, you know, twice a year maybe. This Lane's

00:46:54.630 --> 00:46:57.190
record that just came out earlier this year or

00:46:57.190 --> 00:46:59.670
late last year, I guess it was. Yeah. It was

00:46:59.670 --> 00:47:02.250
a long process. Do you want to talk about that

00:47:02.250 --> 00:47:05.829
for just a second? It was just like we'd start

00:47:05.829 --> 00:47:08.690
recording some things years ago and not finish

00:47:08.690 --> 00:47:12.550
them or do one song here, one song there. And

00:47:12.550 --> 00:47:15.510
just we never really had a plan to make an album.

00:47:15.530 --> 00:47:19.099
We were just recording songs. And we finally

00:47:19.099 --> 00:47:22.380
just, towards the end of last year, we just decided,

00:47:22.460 --> 00:47:25.760
let's see what we got, record some new things,

00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:28.960
and make an album. It had been 10 years or so.

00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:33.340
And it's out on beautiful white vinyl, right?

00:47:33.380 --> 00:47:35.219
Yeah, really nice looking white vinyl. Yeah,

00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.619
black and white. Picking up all over town or

00:47:38.619 --> 00:47:42.320
at your shows. Yeah. You got any other shows

00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.059
planned in the future? Nothing right now. Well,

00:47:45.139 --> 00:47:47.440
keep an eye out for the lanes. Yeah, I'm sure

00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:49.199
we'll have something before too long. One last

00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.679
thing I'd like to ask you, Matt. On a day like

00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:55.119
today when it's so hot and you're the most active

00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.440
person on stage, undeniably just by the nature

00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.340
of the instrument you're playing, how do you

00:48:02.340 --> 00:48:06.460
prepare for something like this? Just I'd stretch

00:48:06.460 --> 00:48:08.500
a little bit and drink a bunch of water. Yeah.

00:48:09.420 --> 00:48:12.860
Not eat too much, drink a bunch of water. That's

00:48:12.860 --> 00:48:16.519
pretty much it. I have one of those little squirty

00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:20.719
fan things that keep on me. And we've got Richard,

00:48:20.900 --> 00:48:25.579
who played guitar today with the Lanes. Thanks

00:48:25.579 --> 00:48:27.619
for having me, man. He was fantastic. Thanks

00:48:27.619 --> 00:48:29.739
again, Matt, for coming by. We really loved your

00:48:29.739 --> 00:48:32.579
set. It was fantastic. I'll ask you the same

00:48:32.579 --> 00:48:35.179
question I just asked Matt. On a really hot day

00:48:35.179 --> 00:48:39.000
like today, how do you prepare to play in that

00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:43.320
heat? Bunch of water. Yeah. Gatorade. The crowd

00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.199
should be doing the same thing, right? Yeah,

00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.960
it's too hot. So everybody we're talking to at

00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.539
home is watching this in the air conditioning.

00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:54.880
Are you jealous? A little. A little, yeah. Yeah,

00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:56.860
a little bit. It's really great that they've

00:48:56.860 --> 00:48:59.159
put such a nice live stream together. I'm glad

00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:00.780
the folks at home were able to watch your set.

00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.900
Yeah, this is cool. I really enjoy the TV thing

00:49:03.900 --> 00:49:08.199
going on here. It's a nice setup. You couldn't,

00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:12.440
aside from it being 96, It couldn't be any better,

00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.599
but you guys aren't gods, so I don't expect you

00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.139
to control the weather. How many Outfests have

00:49:18.139 --> 00:49:22.360
you played over the years? At least 10. Yeah.

00:49:22.460 --> 00:49:23.900
What are some of the bands you've played with

00:49:23.900 --> 00:49:27.760
over the years at Outfest? Mother Jackson, Joyful

00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.340
Noise, and the Soul Small Voice. The Lanes, obviously.

00:49:32.340 --> 00:49:35.980
I feel like the Taxicab Versus played it one

00:49:35.980 --> 00:49:39.360
year. I'm forgetting somebody. That's all right.

00:49:40.250 --> 00:49:42.789
What do you love about playing AFEST? It's just

00:49:42.789 --> 00:49:46.190
fun. Seeing all the people out that get to see

00:49:46.190 --> 00:49:48.329
new music they haven't heard before. It's a lot

00:49:48.329 --> 00:49:50.690
of fun to see that. All right, I'm going to go.

00:49:50.789 --> 00:49:52.590
Hey, thank you for joining us, Richard. I really

00:49:52.590 --> 00:49:55.309
appreciate it, man. I hope you all enjoyed that

00:49:55.309 --> 00:49:58.030
set by the Lanes. They were fantastic. Last night,

00:49:58.090 --> 00:50:02.010
I tried to get into T. Hardy Morris. And I hadn't

00:50:02.010 --> 00:50:04.070
seen this at any other club the whole weekend,

00:50:04.130 --> 00:50:07.289
but there was a line all the way down the building,

00:50:07.409 --> 00:50:11.030
and they were at capacity. And I think people

00:50:11.030 --> 00:50:14.349
eventually got in for kind of the end of his

00:50:14.349 --> 00:50:18.369
set, but it was amazing to see that much support

00:50:18.369 --> 00:50:20.889
for T. Harney Morris. He's phenomenal. I really

00:50:20.889 --> 00:50:25.110
love his music. I caught Bloodkin. I got to say,

00:50:25.210 --> 00:50:58.239
what a phenomenal set. You really couldn't get

00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.840
in. There was plenty of space in all the clubs

00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.780
for all the club crawls. But, man, everybody

00:51:04.780 --> 00:51:07.500
wanted to see T. Hardy Morris last night. I think

00:51:07.500 --> 00:51:09.659
we're going to have to. I'm making a push right

00:51:09.659 --> 00:51:11.940
now. I call for him to be on the main stage next

00:51:11.940 --> 00:51:13.679
year. I know he's done it before. He should be

00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.699
back on the main stage, maybe even close out

00:51:15.699 --> 00:51:19.519
Friday night because that was a sight to see.

00:51:19.619 --> 00:51:23.699
I haven't seen literally 100 and some odd people

00:51:23.699 --> 00:51:26.469
lined up down the road. to get into Nowhere Bar,

00:51:26.630 --> 00:51:29.829
and they were at capacity already. I hadn't seen

00:51:29.829 --> 00:51:31.550
anything like that since. I'm trying to think

00:51:31.550 --> 00:51:34.150
of... I feel like there was one time at the Georgia

00:51:34.150 --> 00:51:37.530
Theater I had a really hard time. Maybe Centromatic

00:51:37.530 --> 00:51:39.389
or one of the people from Centromatic was playing

00:51:39.389 --> 00:51:42.230
or something like that, but I couldn't believe

00:51:42.230 --> 00:51:47.269
it. Thursday night, I was part of the Nate Ball

00:51:47.269 --> 00:51:51.110
Y 'all comedy kickoff show for this event. And

00:51:51.110 --> 00:51:53.409
I had a blast. We had Drew Morgan in. You've

00:51:53.409 --> 00:51:56.929
seen him on this live stream. We told a bunch

00:51:56.929 --> 00:51:59.010
of jokes. We stayed up late and stayed up way

00:51:59.010 --> 00:52:03.070
too late, especially for a kickoff party into

00:52:03.070 --> 00:52:05.110
a long weekend like this. But it was worth it.

00:52:05.130 --> 00:52:07.550
We all caught up with old friends. I'm in from

00:52:07.550 --> 00:52:10.869
Florida. I come up every year for AthFest. It's

00:52:10.869 --> 00:52:12.829
one of my favorite things to do, not just in

00:52:12.829 --> 00:52:16.349
Athens, but anywhere. So if you're at home watching

00:52:16.349 --> 00:52:20.099
and wondering, should I come next year? The answer

00:52:20.099 --> 00:52:23.460
is yes. The answer is absolutely yes. There's

00:52:23.460 --> 00:52:25.960
hotels all around downtown Athens that you can

00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:29.480
get at a relatively reasonable rate. If you've

00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:31.500
ever wanted to know what Athens is all about

00:52:31.500 --> 00:52:35.199
and what this scene is, if you're not from Athens

00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:38.050
and you're watching this stream right now. You

00:52:38.050 --> 00:52:39.690
got to come to an AthFest and you'll get the

00:52:39.690 --> 00:52:42.170
best demonstration of what Athens really means.

00:52:42.550 --> 00:52:45.190
I've never seen another city come together for

00:52:45.190 --> 00:52:47.630
art and music the way that this city does year

00:52:47.630 --> 00:52:50.650
after year, event after event. And I think AthFest

00:52:50.650 --> 00:52:53.530
kind of represents it the best. There's other

00:52:53.530 --> 00:52:55.170
great events throughout the year, don't get me

00:52:55.170 --> 00:52:58.809
wrong. I love all those other events. Wild Rumpus

00:52:58.809 --> 00:53:02.489
is something that's really fun. The way that

00:53:02.489 --> 00:53:05.210
AthFest just really brings together not just

00:53:05.210 --> 00:53:07.650
the community, but all the local businesses and

00:53:07.650 --> 00:53:10.949
bars and artists of all kinds, I really just

00:53:10.949 --> 00:53:14.349
think it showcases what Athens has to offer,

00:53:14.489 --> 00:53:18.150
no matter what you're into. In just a few minutes,

00:53:18.309 --> 00:53:23.690
we've got Celia Chantel, but Cassie Chantel,

00:53:23.769 --> 00:53:25.949
I'm sorry, I'm having trouble seeing my screen

00:53:25.949 --> 00:53:30.530
there. Cassie Chantel. For a little bit. Yeah,

00:53:30.530 --> 00:53:33.570
thanks. How we doing, Muggs? Oh, boy, struggling.

00:53:34.929 --> 00:53:37.309
It's day three. Yeah, I can't see it from here

00:53:37.309 --> 00:53:38.369
either. So I haven't been able to read anything.

00:53:39.190 --> 00:53:44.349
But we're here backstage for AthFest. I've got

00:53:44.349 --> 00:53:45.909
to say, it's not that bad. It's pretty cool.

00:53:45.909 --> 00:53:47.690
It's not that bad. I'm still a little sweaty.

00:53:47.969 --> 00:53:50.949
The tent helps. They gave us some fans to work

00:53:50.949 --> 00:53:54.110
with. But we're still sweltering out here. Oh,

00:53:54.130 --> 00:53:56.829
I see Count Zapula over there. We got to get

00:53:56.829 --> 00:53:59.849
him. Count Zapula. Yeah, we do need to talk to

00:53:59.849 --> 00:54:02.510
Count Zapula. Go get Count Zapula, Toby. Go get

00:54:02.510 --> 00:54:05.849
Count Zapula. He's probably introducing the next

00:54:05.849 --> 00:54:08.570
band or something. Yeah, I think he is. Count

00:54:08.570 --> 00:54:10.530
Zapula is showing up. I'm going to hand it over

00:54:10.530 --> 00:54:13.329
to Count Zapula here. Y 'all, thanks for tuning

00:54:13.329 --> 00:54:16.949
in. Enjoy the rest of AthFest. Hey, what's up?

00:54:17.030 --> 00:54:18.969
It's your good old friend Count Zapula here.

00:54:19.170 --> 00:54:21.630
Hell yeah. Thanks for coming in. How are you

00:54:21.630 --> 00:54:24.260
doing today? Pretty good. What do you do? What

00:54:24.260 --> 00:54:25.920
are you here for? I think you're introducing

00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:30.719
some Are we ready to rock on this thing just

00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:35.360
sit here and I'll brought you oh Dude that band

00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:37.440
was fun. What was the name of that band again?

00:54:37.500 --> 00:54:41.820
Y 'all? Orcestra, but coop the Cuba Macuba they

00:54:41.820 --> 00:54:44.559
were fun. I was out there dancing. I think did

00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:47.980
you get it on the camera Dan Dane? That band

00:54:47.980 --> 00:54:50.699
was so much fun. If you didn't make you dance,

00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.219
then you are basically dead. Or maybe deaf. And

00:54:54.219 --> 00:54:56.679
I'm apologizing if you are. I'm so sorry. Anyway,

00:54:56.820 --> 00:54:58.400
you know who it is. It's your boy Nate Ball,

00:54:58.460 --> 00:55:00.860
y 'all. Make sure you hit up those socials. Nate

00:55:00.860 --> 00:55:03.940
Ball, y 'all. It's Nate Ball, y 'all. So first

00:55:03.940 --> 00:55:07.460
up, I've got my good friend Yasmin here. She's

00:55:07.460 --> 00:55:09.920
an AdFest regular. How many years have you been

00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:12.340
going to AdFest? Keep it kind of close. Probably.

00:55:12.699 --> 00:55:16.019
20. And you are only, what, 22 years old? I know.

00:55:16.019 --> 00:55:17.679
So you started coming when you were two? Yeah,

00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:19.980
been going since I was a baby. I got you. I was

00:55:19.980 --> 00:55:22.420
actually watching this probably four -year -old

00:55:22.420 --> 00:55:24.380
out there cutting a rug, and I was just like,

00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:27.539
oh, she's got so much energy. I want to figure

00:55:27.539 --> 00:55:30.320
out how to steal it. Not the baby, just the energy.

00:55:30.739 --> 00:55:34.420
I can't lie, guys. It's a sweaty situation. It's

00:55:34.420 --> 00:55:36.360
hot out here. It's hot out here. You still make

00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.460
it look good. I make it not look good. You still

00:55:39.460 --> 00:55:42.320
look fabulous. I do. Oh, my God. This whole thing.

00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.420
This whole thing. But, yeah, so the whole point

00:55:44.420 --> 00:55:48.280
of this is the guys at Joker Joker TV log in.

00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:50.860
They are working really hard to live stream.

00:55:50.980 --> 00:55:52.300
You want to give a shout out to them before you

00:55:52.300 --> 00:55:55.739
head out? Shout out to all of y 'all. Yeah, all

00:55:55.739 --> 00:55:59.019
of y 'all. We got one more day to go. We got

00:55:59.019 --> 00:56:00.920
the rest of this day to go. I'm looking forward

00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:02.579
to this next man. They're supposed to be really

00:56:02.579 --> 00:56:05.059
awesome. What were their name again? Next man.

00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:09.199
Barkhouse. Barnhouse is up next, and I've been

00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:10.780
told that they're really fun. I've been watching

00:56:10.780 --> 00:56:14.400
them set up and drum. They've got bongos. They've

00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.559
got merengues. I think they've got key lime pie,

00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:20.639
which I want some of that too. But say bye to

00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:23.059
the lovely Yasmin. And I appreciate you coming

00:56:23.059 --> 00:56:25.579
by. Thank you, Nate. You're very welcome. I love

00:56:25.579 --> 00:56:28.880
you too. All right, you can sit right here. I'll

00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.119
catch up with you later. All right. What's up,

00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:32.820
brother? I'm Nate Ball. Hey, man. I'm Robbie.

00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:34.840
Robbie, nice to meet you, man. I feel like we've

00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:36.179
been around each other. I don't think we've officially

00:56:36.179 --> 00:56:39.099
met. We're talking to the live stream for AthFest.

00:56:39.179 --> 00:56:41.000
Hello, live stream. Hello, mom. Introduce yourself.

00:56:41.179 --> 00:56:42.719
Hello, dad. Hello, Carmen. Hello, Archer. Yeah.

00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:45.559
My name's Robbie. Robbie. Robbie, tell them what

00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:47.940
you do. I'm the singer for Barnhouse. Oh, man.

00:56:48.019 --> 00:56:49.639
I'm excited. Yeah, it's going to be awesome.

00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.239
Everybody's been telling me y 'all are like fun,

00:56:52.420 --> 00:56:54.239
like a rowdy fun time. Yeah. And then when I

00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.579
see bongos, I'm always like, let's roll. You

00:56:57.579 --> 00:56:59.420
can never have a bad time with some bongos. I've

00:56:59.420 --> 00:57:01.280
actually kind of gotten in trouble for putting

00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:03.460
my hands on other people's bongos. Hey, that'll

00:57:03.460 --> 00:57:05.079
happen. That'll happen in the industry, man.

00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:07.039
I'll be like, don't leave your bongos out if

00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.820
you don't want them banged. No chimes, no congas,

00:57:09.860 --> 00:57:12.119
no bongos, no nothing. Now, how long have y 'all,

00:57:12.260 --> 00:57:14.159
how long has Barnhouse been a band? We've been

00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:16.519
a band for about a year and a half now. We started

00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.239
playing January 2025. Nice, dude. So going from

00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:23.219
January 2025, this year you're on the main stage

00:57:23.219 --> 00:57:25.320
at Fest. That's pretty dope. Pretty awesome.

00:57:25.340 --> 00:57:28.210
Where are y 'all from? We're all from Athens,

00:57:28.329 --> 00:57:31.070
actually. Other than me. I'm the one guy out

00:57:31.070 --> 00:57:34.190
of the picture. I'm from Austin, Texas, but everybody

00:57:34.190 --> 00:57:37.670
else is from Athens. Austin is pretty cool. Yeah,

00:57:37.710 --> 00:57:41.630
yeah, yeah. Nepo babies, Nepo babies. Yeah, my

00:57:41.630 --> 00:57:47.050
mom owns Athens. No, Austin, great town. I've

00:57:47.050 --> 00:57:49.670
been out there to do comedy. It's one of those.

00:57:50.539 --> 00:57:52.920
Austin gives me an Athens vibe. It's just bigger.

00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:55.300
It's a big Athens. It kind of takes a little

00:57:55.300 --> 00:57:57.039
bit of the charm out of it. We get to see stuff

00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:59.400
like Athens. Exactly. And then I've been to South

00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:01.900
by Southwest a couple of times. That's a fun

00:58:01.900 --> 00:58:05.239
event. I think the last time, it wasn't always

00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:08.300
two weekends, was it? It started. Wasn't it just

00:58:08.300 --> 00:58:10.079
one weekend? I think so. Because I feel like

00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.300
the first time I went out there was for the film

00:58:12.300 --> 00:58:15.059
festival. Yeah. And then the next time I was

00:58:15.059 --> 00:58:17.079
out there, my friends were playing a band from

00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:18.719
Nashville called Cherub. Oh, that's awesome.

00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:20.909
They rock. Similar to AdFest where it's a whole

00:58:20.909 --> 00:58:24.269
weekend of like in clubs, on stages. It's a great

00:58:24.269 --> 00:58:26.730
weekend. I like it. I like the diversification

00:58:26.730 --> 00:58:29.429
with AdFest and the bands and everything. It's

00:58:29.429 --> 00:58:31.570
like if you're into something, you're going to

00:58:31.570 --> 00:58:34.250
find it. If it's not main stage or any of the

00:58:34.250 --> 00:58:36.449
side stages. You're going to find something within

00:58:36.449 --> 00:58:40.110
the big city. All the other smaller places. You're

00:58:40.110 --> 00:58:41.389
going to find something that you're going to.

00:58:42.090 --> 00:58:44.130
Yeah. That's the best part about it. You want

00:58:44.130 --> 00:58:46.050
to tell these guys about anything? You got any

00:58:46.050 --> 00:58:51.170
shows coming up? Well. We just recorded three

00:58:51.170 --> 00:58:54.369
singles here in Athens this week. Nice. Debut

00:58:54.369 --> 00:58:56.690
singles. Where did y 'all record? We recorded

00:58:56.690 --> 00:58:58.690
at Chase Park. Okay, nice. Thanks to our buddy

00:58:58.690 --> 00:59:01.190
David Barbie. Oh, David. I know David. Yeah,

00:59:01.210 --> 00:59:03.510
man. David Barbie and our engineer McKendrick

00:59:03.510 --> 00:59:05.829
helping us out at Chase Park. Yeah, it was a

00:59:05.829 --> 00:59:07.329
great time. That's awesome, man. I might have

00:59:07.329 --> 00:59:08.869
to head out soon, though. I was wondering if

00:59:08.869 --> 00:59:09.989
you were going to go to the show. They're mad

00:59:09.989 --> 00:59:11.070
at me over there. Yeah, they're probably going

00:59:11.070 --> 00:59:12.150
to need you, brother. It was great to meet you,

00:59:12.150 --> 00:59:13.269
man. It was so great to meet you. I can't wait

00:59:13.269 --> 00:59:15.489
to see the show rock out, man. Thanks, man. Thanks,

00:59:15.550 --> 01:00:07.690
brother, man. main stage. Y 'all gotta make sure

01:00:07.690 --> 01:00:09.650
to check them out, because they're gonna rock

01:00:09.650 --> 01:00:12.110
and roll. And it just so happens that the majority

01:00:12.110 --> 01:00:15.409
of the boys are hometown locals, so we gotta

01:00:15.409 --> 01:00:18.409
support them Athenians. Alright, up next, y 'all

01:00:18.409 --> 01:00:21.630
know the man, the myth, the legend, Fedden. How's

01:00:21.630 --> 01:00:24.289
your weekend going, dude? Oh man, it has been,

01:00:24.409 --> 01:00:27.889
this has been the coolest at -fest that I've

01:00:27.889 --> 01:00:31.059
ever had, I think. Cool as in... Vibe, not temperature.

01:00:31.699 --> 01:00:34.639
Oh, it was way hotter last year. Actually, I

01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:38.659
have been to some sweat fest. I mean, at fest,

01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:41.500
sweat fest. So, no, this has definitely been

01:00:41.500 --> 01:00:43.659
not bad. I'm glad we got a little bit of cloud

01:00:43.659 --> 01:00:46.440
cover. And then it's not raining, not going to

01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:49.039
work. I really love Dangfly. They were probably

01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.739
my favorite band that I've seen out here today

01:00:51.739 --> 01:00:55.639
outside. But that being said, that steel drum

01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:59.219
thing was pretty cool, too. That's the one, like

01:00:59.219 --> 01:01:01.440
I said, I had to go out there and dance. I accidentally

01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:03.719
almost ran over a four -year -old girl. That

01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:05.820
would have been rough. I don't know. What is

01:01:05.820 --> 01:01:09.579
that? Manslaughter? It's weird. If you intentionally

01:01:09.579 --> 01:01:12.300
kill somebody, it's just whatever. But if you

01:01:12.300 --> 01:01:16.059
accidentally, it's manslaughter. Anyway, that'd

01:01:16.059 --> 01:01:19.059
be a good band. What about band names of a band?

01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:20.820
Do you think there's one out there called band?

01:01:22.260 --> 01:01:25.320
Bandslaughter. If there's not one, don't steal

01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.800
my idea, guys. Trademark 2026. That feels like

01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:31.840
a fun one. I like to say it. I want to be in

01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:38.460
that band and play cowbell. A name of a band

01:01:38.460 --> 01:01:41.900
called Band Slaughter? Got to have more cowbell.

01:01:42.420 --> 01:01:44.159
So what's some of the fun interviews you've already

01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:46.420
done this weekend? So I talked to Lily Hyatt

01:01:46.420 --> 01:01:50.139
and Dash Riprock yesterday. Nice. I talked to

01:01:50.139 --> 01:01:52.420
MK Barnes earlier this week, and I watched all

01:01:52.420 --> 01:01:54.519
three of them play last night, and it was phenomenal.

01:01:54.940 --> 01:01:57.179
There's some great shows. That's the one thing

01:01:57.179 --> 01:02:00.159
I like doing this. It's a lot of fun, but I'm

01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:02.559
just going to be able to catch the main stages.

01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:05.300
So I'm unfortunately missing some of the other

01:02:05.300 --> 01:02:06.500
really good stuff. Yeah, I've been doing the

01:02:06.500 --> 01:02:08.539
club crawls quite a bit. That's the one thing

01:02:08.539 --> 01:02:11.440
about AdFest. There's so much going on. You get

01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:13.699
FOMO. You're like, there's three bands I want

01:02:13.699 --> 01:02:15.940
to see at the same time. That's happening to

01:02:15.940 --> 01:02:18.860
me tonight. That guitar is awesome. Yeah, would

01:02:18.860 --> 01:02:21.039
you bring that over here? Hey, we're here with

01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.980
Mary Joyce. What's going on, y 'all? Whose guitar

01:02:23.980 --> 01:02:25.860
is this, Mary? We've got this guitar for Raffle.

01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:28.159
Oh, my God. Mary, do you want to tell us about

01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:29.659
this guitar? This is the Raffle guitar. That

01:02:29.659 --> 01:02:32.079
is sick. Yeah, so this guitar was donated by

01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:34.820
Fender and then hand -painted by our theme artist,

01:02:35.019 --> 01:02:37.699
Maggie Baxter. Maggie crushed it this year. I

01:02:37.699 --> 01:02:40.880
love it. The lover. So we are raffling it off.

01:02:40.940 --> 01:02:43.760
Tickets are only $5. That is a heck of a deal.

01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.300
Show them the back, too. yeah so it's got the

01:02:46.300 --> 01:02:49.219
year the logo i mean that's awesome i personally

01:02:49.219 --> 01:02:51.559
cannot win this guitar but i really hope somebody

01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:53.800
in town does so i can see it in action exactly

01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:55.659
that would be super cool to be able to see somebody

01:02:55.659 --> 01:02:58.500
playing it from this because it's the other thing

01:02:58.500 --> 01:03:00.840
it's not just a piece of art it is a playable

01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:03.239
piece of art it sounds really good i got to play

01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:05.440
it a little bit really that's cool it's it is

01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.000
lovely i mean it's a piece of art that makes

01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:11.349
art yeah Wow. Just like you. Are we an inception

01:03:11.349 --> 01:03:14.429
or what? You're like, we're in art within art.

01:03:14.710 --> 01:03:17.590
All of us, man. Yeah, exactly. All of us. That's

01:03:17.590 --> 01:03:19.269
exactly it. All right, I'm going to go on stage.

01:03:19.269 --> 01:03:20.710
And then real quick, will you introduce yourself

01:03:20.710 --> 01:03:23.170
real quick to the guys? Okay, I'm Mary. Director

01:03:23.170 --> 01:03:26.690
of AthFest Educates. Everything that happens

01:03:26.690 --> 01:03:30.530
at AthFest benefits this nonprofit and arts education

01:03:30.530 --> 01:03:34.269
for K -12 students in Athens -Clarke County.

01:03:34.550 --> 01:03:37.030
Exactly. And Mary Joyce, how we get those young

01:03:37.030 --> 01:03:39.429
bands here in Athens is through these programs.

01:03:39.429 --> 01:03:41.349
There's the raffle on the screen, guys. There's

01:03:41.349 --> 01:03:44.030
so much going on. I have FOMO because I'm sticking.

01:03:44.170 --> 01:03:45.809
I love watching the main stage, but I'm like,

01:03:45.869 --> 01:03:47.949
there's like three or four things at a time I'd

01:03:47.949 --> 01:03:50.070
love to be at. Next year, I'm going to figure

01:03:50.070 --> 01:03:52.210
out how to clothe myself. Yeah, speaking of.

01:03:52.329 --> 01:03:54.269
I got to go on stage. Go on stage and do your

01:03:54.269 --> 01:03:56.230
thing. Love you guys. Thanks for popping in.

01:03:56.250 --> 01:03:58.769
Awesome. Thank you so much to Mary Joyce for

01:03:58.769 --> 01:04:03.590
joining us. Mary Joyce is the thing behind the

01:04:03.590 --> 01:04:06.650
whole board. It was amazing for AdFest. She works

01:04:06.650 --> 01:04:12.150
365 days a year to make this happen. For my show,

01:04:12.349 --> 01:04:14.510
seriously, Mary Joyce, big shouts out. This is

01:04:14.510 --> 01:04:17.409
hard work. Troy Aubrey, Aubrey Entertainment,

01:04:17.690 --> 01:04:20.750
putting in tons of effort and work. If it wasn't

01:04:20.750 --> 01:04:22.050
for these guys and the help, I wouldn't have

01:04:22.050 --> 01:04:26.070
my own show now the third year in a row. It was

01:04:26.070 --> 01:04:29.110
awesome. Can't wait. I'm still feeling it. I

01:04:29.110 --> 01:04:30.809
just want to tell y 'all who I'm really excited

01:04:30.809 --> 01:04:33.150
to see tonight. Yeah, you tell me. The Arcs are

01:04:33.150 --> 01:04:36.769
playing over at Normal Bar. Oh, nice. T. Hardy

01:04:36.769 --> 01:04:41.599
Morris. Slightly famous somebody. All kinds of

01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:43.059
amazing bands on the club crawl. We're going

01:04:43.059 --> 01:04:46.360
to pass off the mic to the one and only Slayla.

01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:49.019
Yo, my name's Cam. I'm the lead singer of a band

01:04:49.019 --> 01:04:50.960
called Schmooze. We're like if Paramore was grunge.

01:04:51.019 --> 01:04:53.960
We played here last night at midnight at Paloma

01:04:53.960 --> 01:05:43.300
Park. Schmooze. S -C -H -M -O -O -Z -E. AthFest!

01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.659
Dude, I actually follow you on Instagram. I've

01:05:45.659 --> 01:05:48.059
actually, I've tried to book you a thousand times.

01:05:48.260 --> 01:05:49.880
Oh my god, I'm sorry. You guys are always busy.

01:05:50.059 --> 01:05:53.119
Yeah, dude, yeah. We got people, we got a bassist

01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:54.860
in Atlanta, we got people here, I'm still in

01:05:54.860 --> 01:05:56.980
school. This is my first AthFest ever playing

01:05:56.980 --> 01:05:59.440
it, which is super cool. Now I'm walking around

01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:02.659
shooting some bands. Did you already play? Yeah,

01:06:02.780 --> 01:06:06.260
I played last night at midnight at Paloma. No,

01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:09.239
dude, Athens is so sick. I love seeing like Athens

01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:12.739
just has the greatest variety of people. It's

01:06:12.739 --> 01:06:16.460
oh, it's so cool. So many cool people. I love

01:06:16.460 --> 01:06:18.639
the community of it. All the vendors are so sick.

01:06:19.380 --> 01:06:23.039
Oh, yeah. Music. Oh, my God. Music. Perfect.

01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:26.139
Dude, speaking of the community, I had lost my

01:06:26.139 --> 01:06:28.780
backpack. Oh, my God. And I went hunting. I think

01:06:28.780 --> 01:06:31.739
I was gone for an hour and a half. Yeah. It was

01:06:31.739 --> 01:06:34.179
in Lost and Found. Somebody had seen me drop

01:06:34.179 --> 01:06:37.179
it. Yeah. Went and took it immediately to Lost

01:06:37.179 --> 01:06:39.900
and Found and told them to. They were like, hey.

01:06:40.019 --> 01:06:41.440
And so they were like, hey, we've been looking

01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:44.300
for you, waiting for you. Awesome. Wonderful.

01:06:44.420 --> 01:06:48.000
Wonderful group of collection of people. Barnhouse.

01:06:48.260 --> 01:06:50.539
Barnhouse. From Athens, Georgia, about to rock

01:06:50.539 --> 01:06:54.260
the main stage. Put your hands together for me

01:06:54.260 --> 01:06:57.880
and Slayla. And then Barnhouse. Oh, my God. And

01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:02.050
then Barnhouse. Talk about Barnhouse. Shout out,

01:07:02.090 --> 01:07:04.849
Barnhouse. Oh, there they are. Everyone in the

01:07:04.849 --> 01:07:08.949
band, after high school, we went our separate

01:07:08.949 --> 01:07:11.090
ways, but we would still get together over the

01:07:11.090 --> 01:07:15.849
summers. And I went to school with a guy named

01:07:15.849 --> 01:07:20.150
Cecil Conley, James Madison University. He put

01:07:20.150 --> 01:07:23.309
on a festival called Cecil Fest to celebrate

01:07:23.309 --> 01:07:30.090
his birthday, and he booked us. So we went and...

01:07:30.460 --> 01:07:33.679
A friend of ours, Caroline Pru, came and she

01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:40.559
filmed it. And we watched it, and it was a pretty

01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.500
good performance. And that's what encouraged

01:07:43.500 --> 01:07:48.159
us to, maybe we should try this for real. So

01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:53.179
we decided that it was after Andrew graduated,

01:07:53.539 --> 01:07:56.909
we were going to move to Georgia. And that's

01:07:56.909 --> 01:07:58.670
what we did. We were all in different places

01:07:58.670 --> 01:08:02.449
when we signed the lease. With facts. Because

01:08:02.449 --> 01:08:06.630
he was in, he went to Amherst, so he was in Massachusetts.

01:08:06.750 --> 01:08:11.730
The drummer, Ian Worden, he was in Guam, and

01:08:11.730 --> 01:08:15.769
I was in Harrisonburg, Virginia. And then we

01:08:15.769 --> 01:08:18.739
made this decision based on a... The love of

01:08:18.739 --> 01:08:21.659
music and that, basically that Cecil Fest performance.

01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:25.399
And that was basically like a one -off reuniting

01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.800
kind of thing that your friend got you to do.

01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:31.460
It was, we were, we played. You still played

01:08:31.460 --> 01:08:33.319
together some throughout, after high school?

01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:36.819
Okay. But it was fun to, you know, we played

01:08:36.819 --> 01:08:39.600
as much as we could, but we didn't really. It

01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:41.579
sounds like you were, that was geographically

01:08:41.579 --> 01:08:44.920
challenging. We would say the least. We would

01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:48.220
play at. and Harrisonburg and other places during

01:08:48.220 --> 01:08:51.180
the summer. But we didn't do a whole lot of real

01:08:51.180 --> 01:08:54.760
traveling until we moved to Georgia. Gotcha.

01:08:54.979 --> 01:08:59.520
Gotcha. What was it about Georgia that... Kevin

01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:02.720
Kinney. That was what it was for me. When I went

01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:07.579
to JMU, one of my best friends, Andrew Stitt,

01:09:07.579 --> 01:09:13.689
was my roommate. And another musician... Amy

01:09:13.689 --> 01:09:16.970
Dominguez, who's still active in the D .C. area.

01:09:17.029 --> 01:09:20.569
She played with, I randomly saw her in Athens

01:09:20.569 --> 01:09:23.310
one day. She was playing cello with Mary Timoney.

01:09:23.909 --> 01:09:27.510
But I'm not sure what, I know she still plays.

01:09:27.550 --> 01:09:29.489
I think she's very involved in classical music

01:09:29.489 --> 01:09:34.829
and playing the cello de gambo. She does neat

01:09:34.829 --> 01:09:37.590
stuff from what I see. Yeah, it sounds like it.

01:09:37.630 --> 01:09:41.500
She brought over a copy of McDougal Blues. And

01:09:41.500 --> 01:09:44.000
my roommate and I listened to it. It was probably

01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:47.479
about three times in a row. Just absolutely loved

01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:51.819
this record. And after the whole Cecil Fest thing

01:09:51.819 --> 01:09:55.039
and we were trying to decide where to go, he

01:09:55.039 --> 01:09:57.859
kept saying, Andy Stitt, that is, was like, you

01:09:57.859 --> 01:10:01.880
should go to Athens, Georgia. He'd play the Athens,

01:10:01.979 --> 01:10:04.560
Georgia Inside Out soundtrack all the time to

01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:06.859
kind of encourage it. And then when I found out

01:10:06.859 --> 01:10:08.680
that Kevin Kinney lived in Athens, I was like,

01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:11.819
let's go check it out. So did you visit first?

01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:16.100
Repeatedly? No, we came down once. You came down

01:10:16.100 --> 01:10:19.340
once. Came down once and we went to see, we saw

01:10:19.340 --> 01:10:23.340
Harvey Milk at the Atomic. And we saw a band

01:10:23.340 --> 01:10:26.939
called Funkomatic at the 40 Watt Club. And I

01:10:26.939 --> 01:10:30.380
think we had lunch. It was like five bucks going

01:10:30.380 --> 01:10:32.939
in there on the beer. So we're like, yeah, this

01:10:32.939 --> 01:10:36.340
will work. We actually didn't move into Athens

01:10:36.340 --> 01:10:40.430
proper. We lived in Comer. Okay, okay. year and

01:10:40.430 --> 01:10:43.329
a half something like that but you found it affordable

01:10:43.329 --> 01:10:46.449
you found it to have the scene that you were

01:10:46.449 --> 01:10:49.470
looking for and people that you admired and respected

01:10:49.470 --> 01:10:52.930
oh yeah was there any other was anybody arguing

01:10:52.930 --> 01:10:55.250
for any other city was there any other was there

01:10:55.250 --> 01:10:58.569
debate about it or was it really i think we had

01:10:58.569 --> 01:11:02.710
talked about maybe two or three cities ashville

01:11:02.710 --> 01:11:04.529
i think was something that was considered but

01:11:04.529 --> 01:11:06.689
i think athens was like let's go and check it

01:11:06.689 --> 01:11:09.670
out and see what that's What was it like? What

01:11:09.670 --> 01:11:12.350
was this entering a scene that's pretty well

01:11:12.350 --> 01:11:15.649
established already? You know what? One of the

01:11:15.649 --> 01:11:17.590
reasons we chose Athens was because it was 1996.

01:11:18.569 --> 01:11:20.970
The Olympics were going on. So we figured all

01:11:20.970 --> 01:11:24.210
the clubs would be packed. Instant fame, you

01:11:24.210 --> 01:11:26.989
know what I'm saying? Yeah. International audience

01:11:26.989 --> 01:11:31.550
coming to you. Yeah, exactly. So that was another

01:11:31.550 --> 01:11:34.989
big reason why it was Athens. We didn't take

01:11:34.989 --> 01:11:37.010
into account how difficult it was going to be

01:11:37.010 --> 01:11:40.760
to rent. places then that's why we wound up in

01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:43.979
Comer interesting yeah because they had a lot

01:11:43.979 --> 01:11:47.479
of the a lot of the events here in in they I

01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:50.880
think they had rhythmic gymnastics they had I

01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:54.359
think soccer okay or at least women's soccer

01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:57.260
because we were playing at a place called wishbones

01:11:57.260 --> 01:12:00.960
when was it the women's team won it was a brandy

01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:05.079
chastain whipped off the top a huge roar and

01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:07.399
it was right as we finished the song we're all

01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:10.159
like there's no way people here to make that

01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:14.020
kind of sound for us but yeah so i bet it felt

01:12:14.020 --> 01:12:17.779
good for a minute but it was rhythmic gymnastics

01:12:17.779 --> 01:12:20.659
i think maybe kayaking or something weird there

01:12:20.659 --> 01:12:25.460
were a few events here in town yeah yeah so after

01:12:25.460 --> 01:12:29.720
the kind of the olympics blows over you're able

01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:33.420
to move in Athens proper but what you were having

01:12:33.420 --> 01:12:35.979
the realization of the Olympics when I asked

01:12:35.979 --> 01:12:38.039
you this the first time but what what was it

01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:41.699
like to move to a city as just like anything

01:12:41.699 --> 01:12:45.600
it's a they're less mom -and -pop shops downtown

01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:49.920
than they used to be I think of the spirit is

01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:52.760
still pretty much the same I think that's true

01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:56.020
but some of the geography and obviously the people

01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:59.760
have changed but it's Athens is still a great

01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:02.479
place to be as far as I'm concerned yeah I think

01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:05.899
it's been shielded from a lot of the you've seen

01:13:05.899 --> 01:13:08.119
there's definitely been some gentrification here

01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:13.140
and corporate corporations moving in just like

01:13:13.140 --> 01:13:16.640
everywhere else but I do think that it has been

01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:20.939
somewhat shielded from a lot of the shit that

01:13:20.939 --> 01:13:24.619
has really screwed up a lot of the other cities

01:13:24.619 --> 01:13:27.779
in America There's still a real, I think, a true

01:13:27.779 --> 01:13:31.760
love of music and the arts here in town. Yeah.

01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:35.000
There's still a real, I think, a true love of

01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:38.600
music and the arts here in town. Yeah. It's a

01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:41.920
real priority in a way that I don't see in other

01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:45.199
cities that they claim they love the arts and

01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:48.619
do support the arts in some ways, but it's not

01:13:48.619 --> 01:13:51.039
their passion. Yeah. Pat Moswalt has a famous

01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:54.460
bit about being in Athens and the way things

01:13:54.460 --> 01:13:57.739
were. In the grand scheme, a lot of it's true.

01:13:58.100 --> 01:14:02.020
I think that's pretty supportive. So, yeah, it's

01:14:02.020 --> 01:14:05.500
changed, but a lot of it's still, in a way, still

01:14:05.500 --> 01:14:10.020
the same. Yeah, you just did soundcheck for AthFest.

01:14:10.180 --> 01:14:12.819
Yeah. Have you all ever played AthFest before?

01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:16.699
No. We played the Heathens thing. We played over

01:14:16.699 --> 01:14:20.039
at the Flickr for Matt's dial -back showcase.

01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.060
That's the last time we were in Athens, so we're

01:14:23.060 --> 01:14:26.640
very excited to be back for AthFest. What do

01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:29.420
you think is unique about Athens versus other

01:14:29.420 --> 01:14:34.579
cities? We started, I was a huge REM fan in college.

01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:38.500
And when I came here, it was like Mecca. It was

01:14:38.500 --> 01:14:42.420
like going to see REM's house. And I love the

01:14:42.420 --> 01:14:45.960
B -52s too. It's just such a cool experimental

01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:49.119
scene where a lot of art students like to grab

01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:51.920
guitars and make funky, crazy, outrageous music.

01:14:53.449 --> 01:14:56.930
Athens has always just created the coolest, unique

01:14:56.930 --> 01:15:00.550
music. And I don't know why. I don't know if

01:15:00.550 --> 01:15:03.930
it's Georgia. It's close to Atlanta. But there's

01:15:03.930 --> 01:15:07.210
just something here about the college and artists.

01:15:07.710 --> 01:15:10.649
It's like the art school creates the best music

01:15:10.649 --> 01:15:13.310
in town. Not the music school. It's the art school.

01:15:13.869 --> 01:15:15.770
Because everybody's crazy. And they're wearing

01:15:15.770 --> 01:15:18.449
crazy haircuts and crazy clothes. And you get

01:15:18.449 --> 01:15:20.850
bands like Love Tractor and Guadalcanal Diary.

01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:25.180
And then it all went on to Drive -By Truckers.

01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:28.319
And to this day, there's still these super creative

01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:31.119
bands coming out of Athens. We're looking forward

01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:33.479
to seeing some of them for AthFest. It's like

01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:35.140
you look at the AthFest lineup and you're like,

01:15:35.180 --> 01:15:36.819
these are all new guys. And you know they're

01:15:36.819 --> 01:15:39.060
going to be good because they're coming from

01:15:39.060 --> 01:15:42.819
Athens. And it's a proving ground for really

01:15:42.819 --> 01:16:57.220
cool art rock. So that's why I love it. Troy

01:16:57.220 --> 01:17:02.359
Aubrey, who puts on AthFest, I think he was conscious

01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:06.760
of when he knew, he was involved in the scheduling,

01:17:06.979 --> 01:17:09.220
because he knew I played in all three of those

01:17:09.220 --> 01:17:11.640
bands. And it worked. We were in high school,

01:17:11.739 --> 01:17:15.260
and Kevin, we met this guy, our friend Bob, in

01:17:15.260 --> 01:17:19.380
high school, and we were in a marching band together,

01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:22.899
all three of us, and just met him, and he was

01:17:22.899 --> 01:17:25.199
interested in playing too, and he played a little

01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:29.750
guitar. We just started that up. And that was,

01:17:29.810 --> 01:17:33.689
we literally would, Bob's dad had a trailer out

01:17:33.689 --> 01:17:37.750
on Lake Seminole, about 20 miles outside of Denver.

01:17:37.869 --> 01:17:41.029
And he didn't live there full time, so we just

01:17:41.029 --> 01:17:44.810
had access to this trailer. We just went out

01:17:44.810 --> 01:17:50.869
there almost every day and just played. And it's

01:17:50.869 --> 01:17:54.649
kind of the same thing. It was just like, we'd

01:17:54.649 --> 01:17:58.670
invite friends out there. sometimes and but yeah

01:17:58.670 --> 01:18:01.649
there wasn't there was there's nowhere to play

01:18:01.649 --> 01:18:04.630
we just we didn't really play out anywhere other

01:18:04.630 --> 01:18:07.649
than like we'd do little parties and stuff like

01:18:07.649 --> 01:18:11.210
that and so you moved to Evans because you wanted

01:18:11.210 --> 01:18:14.350
places to play music pretty much yeah by that

01:18:14.350 --> 01:18:17.350
point we had we really started getting a little

01:18:17.350 --> 01:18:20.170
serious about it and Kevin was writing a bunch

01:18:20.170 --> 01:18:23.090
more songs and Bob was writing songs too and

01:18:23.090 --> 01:18:28.590
yeah we just wanted to to go for it, and Athens

01:18:28.590 --> 01:18:32.989
was not too far away. Yeah. Yeah, we did. And

01:18:32.989 --> 01:18:36.569
it had a reputation, too, obviously, for everything.

01:18:36.930 --> 01:18:38.890
Yeah, for sure. And the cost of living was, I

01:18:38.890 --> 01:18:42.130
think, really killer back then. I think back

01:18:42.130 --> 01:18:46.649
on it, the first house we found was on Willow

01:18:46.649 --> 01:18:50.750
Run, which is a normal town, and we think it

01:18:50.750 --> 01:18:54.840
was $500 a month for all three of us. I think

01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:57.140
back on that now. That's crazy. Unbelievable,

01:18:57.319 --> 01:19:00.260
like, how much more expensive things are now.

01:19:00.979 --> 01:19:03.100
Like, we were just able to come up here with

01:19:03.100 --> 01:19:07.659
nothing, really. Find little jobs and make enough

01:19:07.659 --> 01:19:10.439
money to pay the rent and the bills and be able

01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:12.220
to play music and just play it out as much as

01:19:12.220 --> 01:19:14.659
we could. And previously, they didn't have an

01:19:14.659 --> 01:19:18.460
official photographer. They had interns do it.

01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:22.739
And Mary Joyce, who's the executive director

01:19:22.739 --> 01:19:25.640
of AFES Educates, and one of the things that

01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:29.640
she wanted was to have an official photographer

01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:32.720
and an official video, just because that was

01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:35.979
something that they didn't have. So when the

01:19:35.979 --> 01:19:39.220
idea of having an official photographer came

01:19:39.220 --> 01:19:44.829
up, she thought of me. kept in touch over the

01:19:44.829 --> 01:19:47.770
years. And so she reached out and asked me if

01:19:47.770 --> 01:19:49.649
I was interested. She's like, well, you're already

01:19:49.649 --> 01:22:59.680
doing it. Thanks so much for coming out.
