Gang Stability was recorded at Chase Park and
Patterson actually got the studio time from helping
hang drywall to build the studio. Welcome to
Overeducated and Underemployed. We got a great
episode this week with Matt Lane, the first drummer
for the Drive -By Truckers, the drummer for the
Possibilities, the drummer for the Lanes, and
of course the drummer for Sloan Brothers on Love
and Other Diagnosis, which there's still just
a handful of copies of those left. There's a
handful of copies of the Lanes record left too.
There's links to both of those in the description.
Got a lot of cool stuff coming up in the real
world to come out of the rec room on March 20th
for a comedy show with Sean Lubin, myself, some
local comics, Caleb Thomas, Laurent Josie Jr.,
Carol Hatcher. It's put on by Tallywheel Comedy.
Make sure you come check that out. It's $10.
There's a ticket link in the description of this
episode. And don't forget about P -Funk Fest
a month from today, April 11th at the Phipps
Farm. There's tickets available still for that.
Kids are free. Link in the description of this
episode as well. I'll be up in Athens after that,
up in April for a show on the 21st, and then
I'll be in Winder, Georgia on the 22nd, both
with Lanny Farmer. So come check that out. Hit
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I talked to a bunch of fans. Jay Gonzalez popped
on. So you're going to want to check that out.
It's going to be exclusively on the YouTube channel,
though. And as well as that, there's going to
be some footage from the Danny Bedrosian show
that George Clinton showed up at. I'm going to
be posting that exclusively on the YouTube as
well. And upcoming episodes, we've got Thelma
and the Sleaze. We've got Carson Taylor. I've
talked to all of Thelma and the Sleaze, sat down
with the whole band, LG, Hot Sauce, and Tinkerbell.
We had an awesome talk. They put on a kick -ass
show. They're on tour right now, so go check
them out if they're near you. A lot of folks
are at South by Southwest right now. I want to
just wish everybody that I know out there the
best of shows. I know you're all going to kill
it. That being said, here's my interview with
Matt Lane. We have a small issue with his mic
for the first just like four or five minutes
of the interview. Just be aware, it gets better
very quickly. We get into Athens, Georgia music
history, drive -by truckers music history, and
also I just think a really overarching struggle
about how even when you make great music, you
don't always get recognized for it. That being
said, Check out the Possibilities record Way
Out. I think it's a very underrated or at least
unknown kind of record. So check that record
out. It's really great. It's got Jay Gonzalez
from the Drive -By Truckers and Matt Lane. It
seems like there's a common thread there. It
seems like the Possibilities, the truckers saw
a lot in that band. They, over the years, picked
two members out. So anyway, here's my interview
with Matt Lane. I'm here with Matt Lane. We're
on Overeducated and Underemployed, and I'm just
going to start with the question I ask everybody,
and we'll get into all the things as we go, but
what's the first song you remember loving as
a kid? Yeah, I've heard some of the other episodes
and had a chance to think about it. There's a
couple of things I thought of, and I think the
first one, the one that kind of stands out. The
most for me was Sailing by Christopher Cross.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I was like 10 years old. Okay.
At that time, I was pretty much listening to
the radio and whatever my parents were playing.
I don't know. I just remember that song really.
I was mesmerized by it. That's definitely the
one, I think. Were you pretty fascinated by music
in general before that, or do you think that
was your gateway in? Yeah, I think so. Maybe
a little before that, just Top 40 Radio and stuff
like that. Yeah, but that's the one that sticks.
Yeah, about 10 years old, I think, is about where
I started noticing things. Yeah, I like this.
Yeah, Sailing was, I just still love that song.
I remember the album cover, too. The album cover
is pretty cool. It's got really good art on it.
It's real colorful. Yeah. Might not be the coolest
thing. I think part of what I think is interesting
about this question is nobody has control over
what they thought was cool at 10 years old or
four years old or whatever, but I think it actually
legitimizes a lot of that music in a way because
if it's what got somebody who turned their life
into a life of music in a lot of ways into something,
then I think that legitimizes the song. I had
one friend in particular that talked to me about
that song before. He makes fun of me about it.
I'm proud of him, man. I still love that song.
I still love that whole genre. I guess it's yacht
rock. That whole thing. I've always loved it.
I worked at a record store that you shopped in
at one point. I don't think so. And the reason
I'm bringing them now is because I think it had
a notoriously pretentious kind of, like, the
employees were going to judge you for what you're
buying. Honestly, I don't remember that being
the same with Monty. And I've heard mixed things.
I've heard some people say it was, some people
say it wasn't. I know I approached it always
in the way that I don't care if you're buying
Britney Spears or if you're buying whatever.
You're buying music. That's better than what
a lot of people do. A lot of people literally
have no filter, just take whatever is on the
radio and go no further than that ever. Yeah,
that's the thing. I've always thought that was
people. There's some people in a family, even.
Music just is a thing. It's on the background
or whatever. It's always been the main thing
for me. I can't imagine just not wanting to dig
deep and find out about the start of that kind
of thing. Yeah, yeah. I'm curious, when did you
start buying records then? Was it around 10?
Was that when you started seeking stuff out and
going? I know that Bainbridge, where you grew
up, didn't really have a record store when you
were a kid. No, not really. It's funny. I think
they do now. Yeah, I don't know. It was a record
store when we were kids. It was just in the mall.
Like a Sam Goody or something like that? It wasn't
even any. It might have been Musicland for a
while, but it was also, it changed name. Like,
I don't think Record Bar, but something like
that, Record Bar or something. So there was a
company that owned all of those at one point.
Eventually they had bought Record Bar, Musicland,
Sam Goody. And FYE had bought all of those stores
at one point. So I have a feeling that probably
has something to do with it. Yeah, it changed
names a couple of times from what I recall. But
it's funny that I remember that being where Kevin,
my brother, he might have mentioned this when
you talked to him, but we pulled our money together
and bought a Quiet Riot record at that place.
I think that was like the first. I remember it.
That was like the first record that I paid money
for. And Kevin and I had to put our allowances
together. I think it was Conditioned Critical
by Choir Riot. It might have been the first Metal
Hell. I think it was Conditioned Critical. Nice.
I love both of those records. I mean, I still
do too, man. It's fun stuff. We have a soft spot
for that. We started our first quote -unquote
band. playing the Quiet Riot record and just
miming along to it. When was it that you decided,
just to back up just a little bit, when did you
decide to get your own instruments and all that
sort of thing? I want to play music. I don't
want to just listen to it. Yeah, we just always
had it around. Our dad was a musician, and so
there was always guitars. It was just always,
and we'd just pick them up and mess around. So
it was just... So they were there. Always there.
Yeah, that's cool. And I guess what I'm talking
about is playing along to Riot Records. I was
probably 12, 13, maybe, something like that.
So Kevin would have been 11, 10, 11. Kind of
that. That was the start. It wasn't a band as
in we were playing the music, but we had guitars
and we were just miming along. And I got a drum
set at some point. It's an old Remo drum set,
which is, I don't even really see those. I haven't
really seen many Remo drum sets, the Remo heads
and all that, but I don't even remember how we
got that thing or where it came from, but it
was probably around 12 or 13, I was 13. And that
kind of just evolved into Kevin sort of learned
how to play the guitar and gravitated toward
the drums. It's been in dance ever since then.
You were gravitating towards the drums right
away. Switch your mic. That one's dying. Sorry.
Okay. I'm sorry. I lost my train of thought.
You said you were always gravitating towards
drums. Yeah. Kevin had said before, and I think
that it's right. I have a hazy memory of it,
but he had actually started playing drums. I
was messing around with guitar. He just became
more interested. We just fell into those things.
He gravitated toward guitar more. Yeah, yeah.
Shook out that way. I don't remember there being
like a moment. Were there other kids playing
music much in Bainbridge or was it just y 'all?
Not really. We had our little group of friends
that would We had two or three friends that we
would play in these little bands with, and nothing
ever really stuck back then until I think I was
about 16 when we started our first real band.
It was another pair of brothers, actually, that
we started our first band with called the Insults,
and that was my first real band. We started to,
yeah, I was about, I think I was 16. I might
have been 15. And you were playing out a little
bit. There wasn't really anywhere to play down
there. But we eventually, we played people's
backyard parties and stuff like that. But there
was not a, there wasn't a club to play or anything
like that. And we were underage at the time.
But, yeah, we had this, my dad had this little
shed that he built in the backyard. And we just
had everything set up in there. Just played in
there. I talked to Justin Long, who's a guy out
of Tallahassee. He produced a bunch of records
and was in a band called No Address. Yeah. I
don't know if you recall that. That's familiar.
Early 2000s kind of thing. But he was talking
about how they used to just rent out a place
and sell their own tickets. Yeah. And just totally
DIY the stuff. Just kind of had to make it happen
themselves. Yeah. Especially. when they were
under underage because there was literally nowhere
for anyone to play yeah so what was the first
band that you started like really playing out
with do you think really it was it would have
been the possibilities would have been but we
as far as just like really playing shows really
went until we moved to athens which was 94. yeah
that was the possibilities and yeah kevin talked
about that some but i definitely want to hear
like Your version of the story of why you moved
to Athens and what drew you here in the first
place. Yeah, it was basically just that. By that
point, we were in high school, and Kevin, we
met this guy, our friend Bob, in high school,
and we were in a marching band together, all
three of us, and just met him, and he was kind
of interested in playing too, and he played a
little guitar and just started that up. And that
was, we literally would, Bob's dad had a trailer
out on Lake Seminole, about 20 miles outside
of Danvers. And he didn't live there full time.
So we just had access to this trailer. We just
went out there almost every day and just played,
played. And the same thing. Yeah. It was just
like, that was, we'd invite friends out there
sometimes. But yeah, there was nowhere to play.
We didn't really play out anywhere other than,
like I said, we'd do little parties and stuff
like that. So you moved to Evans because you
wanted places to play music? Pretty much, yeah.
By that point, we had really started kind of
getting a little serious about it, and Kevin
was writing a bunch more songs, and Bob was writing
songs, too. And yeah, we just wanted to... to
go for it, and Athens was not too far away. Yeah.
And it had a reputation, too, obviously, for
everything. Yeah, for sure. And the cost of living
was, I think, really killer back then. I think
back on it, the first house we found was on Willow
Run, which is a normal town, and we think it
was $500 a month for all three of us. And I think
back on it now. That's crazy. Unbelievable how
much more expensive things are now. We were just
able to come up here with nothing, really. Find
little jobs and make enough money to pay the
rent and the bills and be able to play music
and just play it out as much as we could. Yeah.
So this has been a recurring story on this podcast,
I think. And not just with Athens, but definitely
with Athens where I think the cost of living
being so low is part of what was essential to
making it such a cultural center for art because
you had the ability to be a starving artist or
a starving musician and still have a roof over
your head and still... Be able to occasionally
go out and get something nice to eat or something
like that. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if that's
possible. I guess people still do it here. I
don't know that it is. It's definitely not like
it was back then. We'd get just whatever little
crappy job we could find and just a job that
would let us be off when we wanted to and not
have to go in at 8 o 'clock in the morning. Just
whatever job we could find, make whatever money.
It was enough to get by. I remember Jay talked
a lot about, Gonzalez talked a lot about delivering
flowers. Oh, yeah. A lot. Yeah, he had a flower
delivery job. We've talked about that a couple
times now. Yeah, I delivered pizza. I worked
in liquor stores. Just worked at Wendy's for
a while. Just little things like that. Whatever
job, you went from job to job. So you moved to
Athens, and you had already formed the possibilities,
or at least the first iteration of the possibilities
at that point. What are some of the spots you
were playing when you first got to town? The
first place we played was Nowhere Bar. Oh, nice.
Which is still there. Somehow, I think through
Bob's dad, I think, but we got connected with
Rick Fowler. He's still around. I think he works
at Musician's Warehouse now. Long -time musician
around town. Great guy. We got connected with
him somehow. He had a band at the time called
the Lonely White Boys. It was Beer and Fowler
that was in Driving and Crying. We booked a show
opening for them at the Nowhere Bar. That was
the first place. Nowhere Bar, Friel Arrows was
the place early on. We got some early gigs, the
Atomic Music Hall. Atomic became the place we
played a lot. Yeah. I love the Atomic. Not there
anymore, unfortunately. Well, and I think that's
the other element that I constantly hear about
is, and I don't know what the chicken or the
egg is, but you have a lot of these spots that
have closed over the last 20 years. And as somebody
who, I've been coming to Athens for about 16,
17 years now. But until recently, usually for
just like a week or so a year, maybe twice. But
I would just see a snapshot every time. And I
think that is a really good way to see the growth
or decline of a place. And I think I've seen
both in different ways here. I've seen some things
decline, some things grow, and some of the things
that have declined are good things, and some
of the things that have declined are bad things,
and some of the things that have grown are good
things, and some of the things that have grown
are bad things. Yeah, I'm sure to see that every
once in a while. If you're here once a year,
you're like, oh, wow, that's totally different
than the last time I was here. It used to be
a really cheap trip. I will say that. I used
to be able to get a hotel for, 70 bucks a night
yeah and you eat for under 10 bucks a meal wherever
you go pretty much and this is i'm not that old
so this is not that long ago yeah i know that
being said i still think i'm from italian he's
a comparable size yeah in the college town as
well even the chain restaurants are cheaper here
by a dollar or two on them are they yep okay
So there is like an element of it being still,
I think, insulated from some of the inflation
that's happened around the rest of the country.
But it's happening. I know there are definitely
still more expensive places to live. And you
can get like reasonable drinks at certain bars
and stuff like that. There's reasonably priced.
But anyway, so were you playing with any, did
you start playing with any other bands at that
point? Once you moved to Athens, the possibilities
were playing out? Yeah. There were a few times
where I might have been in. And this is like
95. Five or six different bands at a time. And
yeah, we moved here in 94, summer of 94. And
yeah, I mean, for the first four or five years,
probably, that was, like I said, I remember having
to keep a calendar with practice for this band,
practice for this band show, with this band show,
and like five or six different bands. meet people.
You had your own equipment and I'm guessing you
showed up relatively on time. I guess so, yeah.
I think, especially for a drummer, those are
pretty important things. Be reliable and have
your share. That definitely was. I don't want
to say there was a shortage of drummers because
it wasn't ever that. Always looking for a drummer.
I think so, more so than guitar players. Also,
it's a lot harder to be a drummer of a band without
having really pretty refined skills. You can't
be learning to play drums and fake it. Whereas
if you're playing rhythm guitar, You can still
be learning and still playing in bands around
town and stuff like that. I think there is just
a natural shortage of drummers. I think so, yeah.
That's a good point, yeah. From my experience,
yeah, it's been easier to find a guitar player
than a drummer. Or a good one, anyway. So let's
talk about some of the possibilities records.
and how those came about and the personnel on
them and where they were recorded. When did you
record the first one? Before we did a first official
record, we would put out these cassettes. We'd
make, we probably did four or five different
albums. We'd just put them on cassette and give
them out, sell them. And gosh, the house on Willow
Run where we live, we recorded. A bunch there.
The living room was basically our practice space.
Nice. We just left everything set up in there
all the time, and we'd have parties in there
and record there. Okay, I was drawing a blank,
but I guess the first really thing that kind
of people knew about or like we did what was
called Loser Stew, it was just something we recorded
and put out on cassette, but it was all recorded
there in the living room there. Did Kevin record
it? Yeah, we basically had a two -track reel
-to -reel recorder. Yeah, I think you talked
about that a little bit. And we'd just play live
and record it, and it sounded pretty good. Yeah,
that was the first, kind of considered the first
record we did. Now, by the time I was promoting
bands and stuff as a kid, I was burning CDs for
them. Yeah. What was just the literal process
like? for making cassettes would you get them
manufactured or were you taping them or we just
do it all ourselves yeah yeah just double them
ourselves would you have like multiple output
like multiple decks to output it to or you literally
had to do them one at a time never really like
a major operation or anything like we weren't
selling thousands of them or anything but yeah
it was literally through the covers ourselves
and go to kinko's and copy them and fold them
up and put them in Yeah, we just did it all ourselves,
and we give them out to whoever wanted them,
and I guess we probably sold some here and there,
maybe. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, it's all very DIY.
I just did it ourselves. And this is around the
same time that, I guess, Patterson Hood is moving
to Athens. It was like 95, 96. Yeah, he moved.
Yeah, I think it was just like a few months before
we moved here in 94. Oh, okay, so he was already
here. Basically the same time. And so you end
up being the first drummer for the drive -by
truckers. And how did that kind of come about?
Did you, did he approach you or was it just,
you were just playing in so many different bands?
It actually started out with the whole, with
all of the, all three of us and possibilities.
We, it's funny, we got a, it was very exciting
because we got our first call to quote a headline,
a show. It was at Free Alero's, which is a, burrito
joint but getting our own show for the first
time they called us and said hey we you want
to play a show here okay cool this is great that
was one of those big milestones and and Patterson
was booked to open for us it was just him by
himself he was new to town just playing by himself
and he hadn't convinced anyone else to move here
yet I don't yeah I guess not I think him and
Cooley at the time had I know they'd had falling
out. I think it might have still been going on.
Cooley had moved to Memphis, I think. And I know
Jen hadn't moved here either. He talked her into
it. I think so, yeah. In like 97 or something.
96 or 7. Yeah, that's right. That sounds about
right because 96 is when we recorded the first
Trucker stuff. Yeah, I don't think she was here
yet. Yeah, but anyway, so we just played that
show at Friel Eros and we just hit it off. He
liked our band and we liked him and just were
talking and hit it off. And he just started hanging
out with us. He didn't, he was still near the
town too. And yeah, we just started hanging out.
He'd come over to the house and play with, excuse
me, play with us and we'd record things with
him. And he was kind of looking for, he'd been
playing by himself for a while and he just wanted
to get back in it. rock band. And he said, I
just want to be in the loud rock band again.
So the three of us, he asked us if we wanted
to back him up, play some of his songs. And we're
like, yeah, sure. We were just doing anything
back then. Yeah, let's do it. So that was called
that band, The Lot Lizards. Yeah, I've heard
about that. Played in the hi -hat several times.
And wasn't very, pretty short -lived, I think.
But the truckers just sprang from that. He asked
me to stay on and play drums with the truckers.
Kevin and Bob weren't involved in that. Yeah,
he just gathered some people. Patterson was working
at the Hi -Hat, doing sound at the Hi -Hat at
the time. That was the hub for all of us back
then. The Hi -Hat was the place where we all
played. And he was doing sound there and just
met a bunch of people, obviously. Saw a bunch
of people play and said, hey, I like this guy.
John Neff on pedal steel, and he on drums, and
it just sprang from that. He just gathered up
these people that he met in town, and Cooley
was obviously involved from the beginning. I
think they had got met together. He said, all
right, starting this new band. He wanted Cooley
back. So him and Adam Howells from Alabama, he
just gathered this thing, and he asked me to
play drums with him. So yeah, that's how that
started. And the Possibilities are still playing
this whole time, too. Yeah. But at what point
did you put out the first full -length record
with them? Was that before or after Gangstability?
Gangstability was the first fully, the first
album. We put out a seven -inch before that.
It was bulldozers and dirt. Yeah, yeah, I've
seen that. I think Nine Bullets maybe was the
B -side. Yes. God, that's terrible. Yeah, that's
right. Yeah. Yeah, it's become a holy grail trucker's
item. But, yeah, we did that, and we recorded
four or five songs at the same time then, those
two on the 7 -inch. And so we did a little EP
kind of thing. Yeah, and then Gangsta Bell was
the first official record. That was 96? I think,
yeah, yeah. I think that's when it was recorded.
The recording and the release of all that is
a little bit... Yeah, terrible with dates and
when things happen. I don't know that all of
the sessions happened all the same time. Anyway,
it's... I'll have to... Who was recording those
sessions? That was... It was at Dave Barbee's
Chase Park. He was just starting it out. From
the very beginning, y 'all were working with
Barbee. We had recorded with Andy Baker, who
started Chase Street with Dave Barbee. But he
had his studio in his house, and we had recorded.
The first stuff we recorded was with Andy Baker
at his house. Okay. Yeah, that was the first
thing. But then Gangstability was recorded at
Chase Park, and Patterson actually got. the studio
time from helping hang drywall to build the studio.
Wow. Yeah. So that's, he helped Barbie like just
hang some drywall and that's how we got studio
time and recorded that. Yeah. Yeah. I've always
thought he was like really important to the sound,
like the overall sound of not just the records,
but the band itself. Yeah, for sure. It was that.
And then the second album, He didn't record,
we just recorded that on, but he obviously became
a huge part of everything they've done since
then, pretty much. Yeah. And the possibilities
were, they put out a record around this time
as well, right? Yeah. Our first album would have
been, I think it was 98? I think so, yeah. Which
is, I think, the official date on Gangstability,
too. Yeah. In terms of when it came out and everything.
Yeah, it was all right around the same time.
The first Possibilities record was our friend
Kelly Kniep. He had started a little label called
Backburner Records. He put that out for us, and
he put out records by Jack Logan and Chick Chestnut,
and Barbie did a record or two for him, and Rob
Ville had some solo albums dropped from the Dashboard
Saviors. So, yeah, he was just putting out Friends
records pretty much. Had all these friends that
were just great songwriters and put out a bunch
of great records. So, yeah, he put that out for
us. That was our first possible. It was one of
his first, too, wasn't it? It might have been.
I hadn't really thought about that. It might
have been. I don't know if it was the first.
Yeah, I can't remember what Kevin said about
it. It was one before. I don't know. I think
maybe Rob. Bill had done one before maybe. And
Kelly and Jack Logan were, they were like best
friends. They were close. Jack was just always
recording, putting stuff out. I think there probably
been a Jack thing or two was probably first.
They just did so much together all the time.
So I'm curious, do you think you had any idea
that if I were to ask you back then, that Patterson
and Cooley and the truckers like that band would
still be doing what they're doing. Honestly,
no, I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't like, I was
like, Ooh man. I mean, it was great. It was fun.
But I never had that thought of, Oh man, this
has got to be, this has got to be big. And honestly,
I, the possibilities were my main thing. And,
It got to a point where both bands were doing
so much, I just had to go. And they're very different
kinds of music, too. I love the possibility.
Way Out's the one that I just, I can't get enough
of. Yeah, that's kind of our, yeah. And that's
the point that Jay joins the band around like
2000, 2001. I think Jay and Chris Graham, Jay
and Chris were like best friends. they moved
down from New York together in another band and
we got we met them just through playing another
they're in a band called Love Apple and yeah
yeah we played shows with them we just met them
hit it off with them and we all like the same
kind of things and and so we just we have been
the possibilities have been through it was always
me Kevin and Bob and we'd had a another guitar
player for a while. We had a pedal steel player
in the early days. And we had one of our good
friends play bass for a while and Bob played
guitar. We added a fourth member three or four
different times. And when we met Chris and Jay,
we asked them to do it. And that was, this is
the version of the possibility that was best.
Jay played a bunch of keys and Chris played guitar.
And that was about, I think it was 98 when they
joined. And it sounds like that, you're at that
point taking the Possibilities really seriously.
That had been what you moved to Athens to do,
was to take that band seriously. Yeah, that was
my main thing. Co -writing those songs, those
Possibilities songs? Not really. I wrote a couple
of songs. I had that Loser Steve that I was talking
about earlier, the cassette we put out. I had
a couple songs on that, but I wasn't doing a
whole lot of writing. Kevin and Bob just took
that over, and they were a lot better at it than
I was. But it was never something that you felt
like you had to do. You never felt compelled
to write songs or anything like that? No, no.
Some people, it's a compulsion. Yeah, yeah. I'm
definitely not one of those people. wakes up
in the middle of the night with some song that
just popped out. That happens to me with jokes.
Yeah, that's what that notepad is from. I'm like
trying to decipher. Just keep it with you all
the time. Yeah. I have had that kind of stuff
happen before. I would lay in bed and just, this
melody will pop in my head. I'm just, it's always
something that I've wanted to do and still do.
But it's, I've always just, I love playing the
drums. I just kind of settled into that thing,
and I've been very fortunate to play drums with
a lot of great songwriters. And part of it with
me, too, is just I'm not going to add anything
better than what any of these guys are doing.
Yeah. So I'll just play drums. I was happy doing
that. So, yeah, it was just never really a need
for me because it had been, like, those days
Kevin and Bob were just cranking out. songs all
the time you're just like staying stay in my
lane yeah i'll just yeah i'll just stay back
here pun intended yeah yeah thank you i appreciate
the rim shot there i need that my jokes really
need a drummer that's offensive as a comedian
like that's the blue tune i think it's it depends
yeah i think if it's a good joke it doesn't need
it yeah i just i haven't really thought about
that bad joke just now i feel like if it's a
bad joke yeah it could save it. Yeah. But it
can also backfire. Cause if you, if it's a bad
joke and it doesn't save it, it makes it worse.
Yeah. No, I just, that was just a thought that
just popped. Never thought about that before,
but is that a, I don't know, like what comparable
for the band? I don't know, but it just, is that
a, something that comedians are like, Oh God,
but in thing, I don't know. I don't think so.
Not personally, at least I know I had a, I did
a show a long time ago at a coffee shop and there
was a guy that was playing guitar before the
show. Yeah. And we just told him to keep going.
He was just like playing like acoustic classical
kind of riffs or whatever. Yeah. Real quietly
and we were just like. Keep going, man. That's
fine. And it made it hilarious. It made it objectively
funny. It made everything objectively funny.
Because there would just be a break and you'd
just hear the... It just became like this hilarious
thing. It was great. Yeah, yeah. One of those
happy accident things. I think it's one of those
things, too. Like, what's the origin of the...
Yeah, I don't know. Because I feel like when
it first came out, it was probably super helpful.
Yeah, yeah. I guess that was, it just, it was
actual thing that like back in whatever. Yeah,
like on Johnny Carson or whatever. Like it was
actually used as a punctuation to a joke. I don't
know. Telling, I guess people were a lot more
reserved back then. Yeah. So like telling them
when they were. Okay, you can laugh now. Yeah,
yeah. That's interesting. I never really thought
about it. That's really interesting. Now I'm
going to have to go study it. I think I'll do
some research. Where did the ba -dum -bum come
from? It might be another episode. Have you ever
played that role on a show where you got to do
the ba -dum -bums? Not on schedule. I've probably
done it. As a pimp. I'm sure I've done it. To
make fun of the singer or whatever. Singer tells
something, some dumb joke or something. I'm sure
I've done that, but yeah. Never been on a variety
show? No, never done it, no. No. I remember like
in high school, I played timpani at like a, not
a fashion show, a pageant of some sort. Anyway,
no. But no, not like a variety show with a ba
-dum -tum specifically, no. I'm sure I've done
it jokingly here and there. You're putting out
records with the possibilities. You're touring.
Did you guys start touring? Yeah, a little bit.
We did some, yeah. Yeah, that's what I thought.
But you're also still the whole time having to
work day jobs, right? Having what? I'm sorry.
You're working day jobs the whole time too, right?
What are some of those? I know you mentioned
a couple of them earlier. What are some of the?
I specifically remember. I was working at Liquor
Store. I remember having to get off from this
liquor store on weekends a lot, especially for
the truckers. It got to a point where the truckers
were really, almost every weekend or so, we'd
be going somewhere. Working at the liquor store
then, and I did for the next several years, actually.
It was a good job that I could do that. I could
take off for a weekend here and there. But, yeah,
delivered pizzas around that time, too, a little
bit. I remember that. The before and after the
evening. Yeah, yeah. Getting the liquor in. Oh,
yeah, yeah. I delivered sandwiches for a while.
I actually really enjoyed that. I loved delivering
pizzas, man. Because everybody was always so
happy to see me. Yeah, yeah. You're the life
of the party. You got food. Yeah. Yeah, I loved
delivering food. You'd drive around and listen
to music. I'm a big baseball fan. Whenever baseball
season, you drive around and listen to baseball
games. Yeah, I'm a big baseball guy, too. I love
that. Yeah. I'm guessing the Braves are your
team. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Tampa Bay here. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. The Rays. It's because I hate myself. Yeah,
the Rays. I can see that being frustrating. I
kind of like how they – It's kind of like being
a Florida State Seminole baseball fan. Yeah.
Yeah, it's funny. I was a Seminole fan as a kid.
Yeah. switch to Georgia at some point. We both
hate Florida so much that I think they're certainly
compatible. They're very compatible in terms
of fandom. You hate Florida as much as Georgia
fans do. That's the only thing we have to argue
about, really, is who hates Florida more. Everybody
hates Florida. But you didn't always stay in
Athens. There was a time you moved back to Bainbridge
for a while, am I right? Yeah, I did, yeah. That's
after I got married. We had our first kid. That
job at the time, my wife's dad, he just kind
of wanted to do something different with his
life. He quit his career. He had a sales job
for a long time, and he was sick of it. open
a pizza place so he opened this pizza place it
was actually in grayson which is between here
and atlanta i got you 30 30 miles from here and
he out in my i was actually oh yeah i've done
a lot of pizza yeah i've worked in many a pizza
joint and still Part of me still kind of wants
to go back to it at some point. Anyway, love
everything about making pizzas. But anyway, yeah,
the liquor store job that I had with, we had
a young child at the time, and having to deal
with her and her daycare and figuring out what
to do with her between me and my wife, working,
it became a thing with the liquor store out.
I was, like, managing it at that time, and my
boss was like, I really need you to be here,
like, these certain times, which, yeah, that
makes sense. But I can't. Anyway, so that liquor
store job kind of was like, all right. Lifestyle
incompatibilities, yeah. Yeah. And that's around
the time that I heard from my wife's dad. My
father -in -law started this pizza place, and
he asked me to help him run it. So I was like,
yeah, I'll do that. He's like, I'll pay you.
the same money you're making right now. And yeah,
sounds good. Yeah. And that unfortunately didn't
work out too well. He, he kind of lost some money
on that whole deal. I gotcha. So yeah, I was
still playing in bands the whole time. Yeah.
At that point though, what was that like, especially
with somebody who was so much equipment, were
you like leaving your drums here or. Actually,
I take that back. Like. I wasn't actually in
a band full -time. The possibilities were done
by that time. Actually, I'm just trying to think
now. Kevin had started the Arcs. I actually didn't
have a full -time band. Actually, when I moved
back down there, we moved back down there for
three years. My mom was a real estate appraiser.
She needed help with that. When the pizza place
thing was falling apart, my father -in -law was
like, I just can't afford to pay you anymore.
Mom was like, move down here. I had a child that
she wanted to be near, obviously. Move down here
and help me with the appraisal. That's a good
idea. I learned how to do real estate appraisals.
I did that. I got my license and all that. I
worked with her. We were there for three years
and then moved back here. But I was in a cover
band down there. I had some friends from high
school that I hooked up with again, and they
had a little cover band that was a legit thing.
They played, actually, Tallahassee was one of
the Bullwinkles in Tallahassee. Oh, yeah, I know
Bullwinkles. That was one of the... I don't go
there often, but... Probably, yeah, I wouldn't
imagine, yeah. I like to make better life choices
than that. Yeah. I was getting paid to be there.
That was the thing. I was getting paid for it.
Those friends from high school, it was fun playing
with them. You just play these For context, Bullwinkles
is a very college oriented bar. It was wild,
man. It was interesting. It was funny. There
were two main places that cover band played.
Bullwinkles was one. a place called PUDs. I've
heard of that place. Have you heard of PUDs?
Yeah. It's notorious. I don't know if it's still
there or not. It might be, but it was literally
this kind of a warehouse building out in a really
small town called Brinson, Georgia, just like
15 miles outside of Bay Bridge. And it was literally
down this dirt road with houses on either side,
not like a neighborhood, rural. dirt road and
there's just this bar out there middle of nowhere
and so yeah that was two kind of very interesting
wild places to play shows at but it was fun and
back then y 'all still had that kind of attitude
like i played at the cover band but it was fun
man it was just something to do and make a little
extra money i will say that area man like that's
what the people pay to see, go see, or whatever.
They don't really go see a lot of original music
in that area. I think it's similar to what Patterson
talks about with the Muscle Shoals area and why
he left it, because it was a recording town,
people wanted to hear cover bands, and he wasn't
interested in doing that. Yeah, there wasn't
a lot of original bands on there back then. Yeah,
I think there was like a bubble. And we talked
about one of the bands for a minute earlier,
No Address. There was like a bubble where five
bands out of kind of that area got signed. Social
Burn was from Bluntstown, the Oxford area. There
was Presence and No Address. And then Stand Still
got signed. They ended up working with them.
Do you remember a band? God, what were they called?
Was it Gruul? Yeah. You remember them? Yeah.
I remember them. They're still around a little.
They did reunion shows every once in a while.
Yeah. I remember Gruul. I don't even know if
I... That may have been one of Mike Coleman's
bands. Yeah. Mike Coleman was a guy I worked
with at Vinyl Fever. Yeah, I don't know if I
ever knew him or met him or even saw him. I just
remember they were a big enough deal. Bacon Ray?
You ever remember that band, Bacon Ray? Bacon
Ray? Yeah. Spring Break 82. Those are, I think,
some bands that... Yeah. They're doing a big,
like, punk, 80s, 90s punk reunion festival. Oh,
really? Coming up in a couple of... About a month
and a half, I think, from now. It's probably
happening as this airs, to be honest with you.
But... So... One thing that strikes me is the
truckers were notorious for playing like 200
shows a year. Yeah. And it sounds like you were
really more interested in having some kind of
a home life. Yeah. Yeah. What were some of the
early days of touring? Because I'm thinking about
there's this window in the late 90s where there's
no internet there's no yeah there's all these
resources that that it's like almost like touring
in a different world yeah is now there anything
that comes to mind that yeah it was just patterson
patterson especially was just very good at promotion
and i never really was paid attention that kind
of but i just know a lot of it was just richmond
virginia was stands out because we like you just
go to play in the town go back there a couple
months later play there again meet people play
there and just build up the crowd and that was
a lot of the shows that I played with the truckers
was playing for nobody at first and going to
Atlanta over and over again play there more and
more people Richmond Virginia was one but yeah
it was just that just That makes sense. You just
have to go back and play there again and play
there again. How do you keep your spirits high
doing that? That's, I feel like, one of the hardest.
Yeah. The possibilities were more like that.
We got more just trying to find the right word.
We were just disheartened by it more. The truckers
were like, no. Patterson especially, he didn't
care, man. He was going for it. And we just didn't
have that gum shirt or somebody in the band that
was willing to. We'd go out and play a show.
We'd do a tour for a week or two here and there
and just play for nobody. And we just got into
that, like, what's the point of this? So it was
two different kind of attitudes. It was a tour,
yeah, philosophies. Yeah. And I think a couple
of things I've heard Patterson say in The Secret
to a Happy Ending in particular is he's like,
when you fall, you got to fall forward. So at
least you gain a little yardage. But the other
thing I think about is just he really believes
there was nothing else for him. Oh, yeah. Like
that was his only eye. And I feel if you feel
like this is your best shot of making something
of your life. Yeah, that was the whole thing
with him. This is all I got. I'm going to make
it happen. I got a ton of respect for him for
doing what he did. I'd never had that in me.
The possibilities, for example, we just didn't
have that person. At that point, too, we had
all gotten into relationships and getting married.
We didn't have kids yet, but starting that kind
of adult, life thing and yeah yeah i did it like
backwards i had a kid real young yeah i'm now
i'm like on the other side of that just ruining
my life so we're just screwing it all up exactly
so one way our paths crossed that i was unlocked
for me yeah re for by kevin the other night was
when you were living in bambridge yeah the truckers
on the rock and roll means tour, came through
Tallahassee, and you played a song with them.
Was that the first time you had played back with
them? No. Yeah, that happened before. It happened
a few times in there. I feel like I'd even seen
it maybe at a festival or something like that.
I don't know. Athens, obviously. They play at
Athens, and I'd sit in for a song or two here
and there. I don't think I was coming to Athens
yet. rock and roll musical. I started coming
a couple years after that. That was 2008. 18
years ago. That's insane. It is insane, man.
It really is. That was Tallahassee. November
2nd. November 2nd, 2008? Yeah. I only remember
because I went up to Atlanta in the middle of
the night on Halloween because I had no plans
for the Atlanta show, which was the first. So,
yeah, that was just like they came to the moon
in Tallahassee. And I was a big fan of Hold Steady
at the time, too. So I just contacted them and
was like, hey, man, love to go and see the show.
And like, yeah, got me tickets to the show. And,
yeah, played a song with them. It's funny. Was
it Buttholeville? Yeah, that was, yeah, I'm pretty
sure it was. Yeah. That was kind of the, when
I played a song with them, that was. The one.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was crazy. It was a big
crowd, and I was like, oh, man, this is crazy.
And I'd seen so many shows at the moon from younger
days. Right, right. Playing at the moon at school.
What are some of the early shows that you remember
going to? Oh, man, I saw – Driving in Crime was
like – we saw them a lot. It's like every – Every
time they came around anywhere, Kevin and I both
were just big fans of theirs. Is that part of
what drew you to Athens too, you think? Yeah,
probably. Yeah, because they were from, I guess
they're from Atlanta, but yeah. Atlanta, Athens,
and we'd drive to Atlanta to see shows. From
Bainbridge? A good bit too, yeah. Situated in
kind of a spot where you can... Yeah, it's like
a four -hour drive to Atlanta. from there. Yeah.
Not insane. I mean, we, you know, we were young.
We just drive up there and drive back. I did
that, that, that night, the night before the
drive -by truckers hold steady showing at the
tabernacle. I drove back to Tallahassee that
night. Yeah. Even farther. Yeah. Cause I was
like, I'm, I've got to be back tomorrow. Cause
they're playing at the moon. Yeah. I'd rather
sleep in my bed. Yeah. So I'm going home. It's
funny. Didn't even really think about it, but
yeah, man, let's go. Yeah. I can't imagine doing
that now. No. Geez. I feel like if I had to,
I might. Yeah, I probably could if I forced myself.
But yeah, the moon, though, we saw, I saw the
Lemonheads and Red Cross there. Oh, yeah. That
was a big one. I remember seeing Screaming Trees
there. Great. What else? I mean, there was a
bunch of shows we saw there. I was at a house
show with the guy from the Lemonheads. Oh, really?
Five years ago. That was pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah,
that was wild. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm going to
cut you off. No, you're good. You're good. The
first kind of, I guess, big show we went to,
Kevin and I went to, my mom took us because we
were underage and before we could even drive.
We went to see DRI there. Oh, nice. It was DRI
and sick of it all. Oh, hell yeah. And it was
another band or two. I can't remember who else,
but just hardcore show. We were all into that
at the time. Did your mom like it? She thought
it was interesting. She sat up in the back, and
she was a music fan. That was my childhood. My
mom took me to shows. She'd sit in the back.
I'd go down to the pit. Yeah. She was really
cool about that. It wasn't her type of music,
obviously. She was like, wow. Because seeing
that kind of just the mosh pit and the drummer
and the singer of the ERI literally got in a
fist fight on stage at that show. I remember
the singer just dove back into the drums. And
they shut the show down for a little bit. And,
yeah, it was nuts. But, yeah, so my mom was watching
all that. Wow. And she was like, yeah, that was
interesting. But, yeah, that was at the moon.
That was like the first. Yeah, the first. rock
show cool rock show we went to yeah that the
moon what brings you back what brought you back
to athens after you moved that was already always
the plan it was always like a temporary move
yeah and that's what led to the lanes fine yeah
yeah actually getting together a good bit we
had already while i was living in manworth we
were talking about and i think i even Came up
a few times before I moved back. And you moved
back what year? That was 2010. Okay. That was
like 07 to 10. That was three years. But it was
always the plan. The job thing just worked out
when mom needed help. She wanted to be around
her grandkid. And we actually had our second
child in Baymards while we were living there.
So you get back to Athens. What bands are you
playing with at that point? The Waynes was obviously
one. We started that. You started that up. Right
then. Right when you moved back? Pretty much,
yeah. Even maybe before I officially moved back,
we had already kind of started it. Yeah, yeah.
The other band at the time was the Wydells, which
is still, we're still a band. We hadn't really
done much in a little while. But yeah, that was
one where, before I moved down there, Brandon,
who's now one of my best friends, he was playing
bass with the Waddells and he wanted me to join
to play drums with them. And I was like, I'm
about to move out of town. So it was literally
like, I'm moving out of town. I can't really
start a band. Anyway, so when I came back, that
was another one. It's like, all right, I'm back.
And they still needed a drummer and started playing
with them too. So it was the Lanes and the Waddells
at that point. And there was always talk of putting
out Elaine's record. Yeah. But I know that there
was, like, there just kept seeming to be something
that got in the way. Yeah. With the final thing
being COVID, I guess, being the final thing.
Yeah. It was just basically life thing. Right.
We never really stopped doing the band, but it
was just, we'd record a couple of songs here
and there. Not that it doesn't work out or anything,
but it's just, I don't know, just record this
and never really finish it, or not even really
plan to. Let's just record a couple songs with
our friend in this house, that kind of thing.
But not with any real intention for what you
were going to do with that. Yeah, there wasn't
any, let's make a record. It was just, it's just
what you do. record songs and we had this kind
of set of songs and let's record them and wasn't
ever really any grand plan obviously at some
point we wanted to make a record but just kind
of years go by like life and Kevin started having
kids by that point and he's playing in the arcs
too yeah he had the arcs too and I had the Waddell
yeah just It wasn't ever really anything that
happened. It just took a while. That Arcs record
is great, too. It seems like he finally, he's
got all this stuff happening at once. Yeah, yeah.
He put out the Arcs record last year in the lanes.
Yeah, it's funny how that all happens. The Arcs
record, our record, and the Sloan Brothers record.
And I'm just about to bring him up, too. You're
about to get it. That's another one that you
literally just all. happening at the same time.
Yeah, so Sloan does all the music for this podcast.
Yeah, yeah. And I've had him on here before,
but I'm definitely curious how y 'all first met
and how he approached you to drum for the Sloan
Brothers. I'd really, I'd met Sloan just from
back when he was recording shows all the time.
He was just always at shows and shows that we
played and he would ask to record us. I've met
him doing that. I never really hang out with
him a ton. Just seeing him at shows. And I didn't
really get to know him well at all until we started
recording that record. He'd done the first Stone
Brothers record and had, I don't know how many.
System Update. 50 different people played on
it. It's crazy. He kind of jokes that people
were just coming up to him like, hey man, why
don't you ask me to. He asked me to play on it,
and I had that a little bit. I'm like, when are
you going to ask me? I'm not really the type
that's going to be like, hey, man, let me play
on your record. So anyway, that was. But when
the list gets that long. Yeah, yeah. Enough that
far down the list. Man, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
He doesn't listen. Yeah, I'm not listening to
this. But no, I didn't really. We didn't know
each other. He listens to the theme song. Sorry.
I don't want to listen to the rest of this crap.
That was a good song. Good to hear that one again.
But yeah, so anyway, I don't know. I think Brandon,
I think just from Sloan and Brandon talking about
Sloan kind of had this idea for his next record.
He wanted to have a band. Kind of a more fixed
personnel. I don't know, 40, 50, however many
it was. Because you can imagine, it probably
got a little overwhelming. And he was like, all
right, this one I want to streamline it and just
have a band for the whole thing. So that was
where we came in. I think it was Brandon started
that thing. So it was me, Kevin, and Brandon,
guitar, bass, drums. And yeah, we just recorded
that song in Kevin's place. Still going. Yeah,
yeah. Just double -checking everything. Yeah,
yeah. Yeah, and that's when I really got to know
Sloan, other than just running into him around
town. So it really was just like a straight -up
professional kind of relationship at first. Yeah.
That's pretty cool. Yeah. I think there's a lot
of people that, when they go to a shitty job,
they're like, I don't want to make friends. work.
I don't want these people to know me. I want
to just do my thing and get out of here. But
when you start working and doing the things that
you really love and enjoy, that can be super
rich for your social life. It creates all these
people that you... And then there's the other
side. I've got some comedian friends. I loved
working with you, but that's... That's all. That's
all. Yeah. It's not even anything personal. It's
just, if we're not doing anything like super
productive with this, then what are we doing?
Yeah. We just jive so well together or whatever.
Yeah. That's definitely similar things with playing
in band. That was, especially those early days
I was talking about before playing in five, six,
seven different bands at the same time. It was
just meeting people. Going to each other's shows
and just meeting people and saying, let's play
together. Yeah, let's do it. I wanted to do everything
I could. Anyway. Yeah. And there was some of
that, too. There was some... Not naming any names.
Not that I'm really thinking about it. Right.
Not that I'm even thinking about anybody in particular.
But there was some bands he played with or whatever.
Yeah. That's not really... Or just... I'm not
really hitting it off with them. I don't really
just want to hang out with these guys, but if
we're going to go play music, that's different
too. Yeah. A lot of similarity there. With the
Lanes record, I know y 'all started trying to
do some remote recording where you would send
each other files during COVID and starting to
do that. Kevin talked about how a lot of the
times, and I think this happened with the Arcs
record some, too. He would get too far down a
path without any feedback from anybody else.
Does that kind of jive with you, your recollection
of it as well? I guess there was some of that.
It was ultimately a decision, though, that you
had to record it together. Yeah, yeah. The Lanes
record was different because a lot of the, it
was probably about half of what ended up on the
record was some of it was recorded 10 years ago.
Gotcha. Wow. And, and then about half of it ended
up being just me and Kevin. And it was, we had
all these recordings from before. And I was always
like, we got to do something with these. And,
and then we just decided at some point, like,
all right, we're going to do the, let's finish
this thing. It's been too long. And so me and
Kevin just decided we're just going to do this
together. So we recorded. I think we re -recorded
a couple of songs just by just us two. And there
was a couple of new songs. So about half of it
is pretty much just me and Kevin. And so that
was a different way that it happens over many
years. Yeah. Yeah, I don't have a record player
in my hotel yet. I haven't had a chance to. No
portable record player. I will definitely be
listening to it as soon as I get home. Yeah,
it's just like we got to, and that was part of
the, you want that vinyl. That tangible thing.
Yeah, this is our thing, and we did it. So the
kind of plan to make a vinyl pressing of it came
along with the. plan to play Homecoming, though.
Is that right? Yeah. I mean, I was definitely
like the impetus to like, all right, this is,
because we talked to Patterson for a few years
about doing that. And it was always, we don't
really have any, we don't have an album. We don't
have anything to promote or sell. And not that
was the be -all and end -all of playing Homecoming.
But having something tangible, I think, is important.
I mean, you want somebody. open like they have
something to sell and so that was that really
was okay this is the thing let's do this let's
actually finish this record and we so that definitely
was a thing that made it they kind of lit a fire
like all right we got to get this done and so
yeah that's how like we kevin and i just ended
up doing a lot of ourselves too just we just
we can get together we got together with each
other all the time and and it was just easy me
and him obviously but yeah that was definitely
part of the way the reason we got let's finish
it yeah yeah but yeah i loved the show the other
night man i thought it sounded fantastic i'm
really excited for the record a lot of fun yeah
yeah that was basically the record it was Same
order. We played it all the way through. Oh,
you just played the record straight. Oh, hell
yeah. That's awesome. I love it when a band,
when they put out a record, they do exactly that.
Yeah, it was just like, it just worked out. It
was the running order of the record. This works
for the show, too. Before I let you go, is there
anything else you feel like we missed? I don't
want to skip over anything that you maybe meant
to get back to or anything like that. Wrap it
up. I don't think so. brothers what no i don't
think so cool man i guess we were the talking
about the whole truckers possibilities thing
i don't know i guess we covered that i would
i guess i was just gonna say those kind of things
got it got to a point where truckers were they're
like we're doing that we were they were talking
about the southern rock opera thing at the time
That was the big idea. They had that idea. Patterson
was crowdfunding that, right? Yeah, yeah. And
we were playing some of the songs from that at
the time. And that was the point where they were
really going to, that's when they started, we're
going to play 200 shows a year. Gotcha. And so
it was like, I had to be like, possibilities
was my main thing. And just really, honestly,
my style of music and all that kind of thing
too. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, that was. I guess we
covered that, but anyway. A good bit, yeah. I
think the one thing I don't really know that
we covered too closely was Jay joining the Possibilities.
I think we started to and then got Squirrel.
Yeah, we didn't go into that too much. But, yeah,
Jay and Chris joined in, like, 98, and that was
definitely, like, that was the version of the
Possibilities that was the best, and it was just
great. We all just hit it off. got along together
jay was writing some songs with us and chris
was chris worked at studios at the time so he
was really into recording he had a little kevin
and chris shared a they lived together in this
little place for a while they had a little tiny
little basement and we had a studio set up down
there chris did and that's actually where we
recorded way out excuse me and this album by
jack logan called monkey paw Those two albums
happened at the same time. And the Logan album
was basically the possibilities with just playing
Jack songs. Gotcha. Yeah, so just Jay and Chris
were huge possibilities, yeah. And Jay and Chris
was who played with us at the Lanes this last
show. We had a couple other guys, Richard Mikulka
and Chuck Brabern have been the guitar and bass
player in the Lanes. Gotcha. The whole time.
Gotcha. And we had just not really done anything
for a while. And it had probably been maybe even
a couple of years since we played a show or anything.
And it was the trucker thing, the homecoming
thing came up. And we just, let's get Jay and
Chris. We played together for 30 years. And we've
done all kinds of different Beatles cover bands
and Jay's solo stuff. We've done all these little
one -off Smithereens cover band shows. Yeah,
you played on Jay's solo records too, right?
Yeah. The Bittersweet. I didn't play on The Bittersweet.
That was a Joe Rowe play drum. Gotcha. But that
was crisp. Mess of Happiness, though. I didn't
play on that either. Oh, okay. That was actually
recorded. I think most of that was done while
I was living in Bay Ridge. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha.
That makes sense. Oh, God. I'm drawing a blank.
I am too. It's fine. Don't worry. I edited this
to make it seem. Yeah. I was going to say, that's
right. Oh God. That's terrible. What is back
to the hive? Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Back to the hive was, was when I played on that,
like three or four songs on that. And that was
once again, it was me and Kevin and Jay and Chris.
Basically just a possibilities. Yeah. Without
Bob. He moved like up to Richmond. several years
ago and we hadn't really talked to bob too much
last year but anyway so basically me kevin jay
and chris and but yeah we just we've done all
these different things we cover band shows and
whenever jay does solo shows it's us four and
the lane thing like when we're doing the show
we're gonna be not starting from scratch It's
been so long since we've done anything. Yeah,
yeah. Let's just get down to it. Jay was obviously
going to be there already. Right, yeah. He was
getting worn out by the end of the night. I don't
know. I told him. I don't know how the hell he
does it, man. I don't know. I told him several
times, like, I don't know how you do this, man.
They played 30 songs after he played your set.
They played 30 songs. I know, man. I know. And
for four nights in a row. I had this. grand idea
when they first I always go to a show or two
usually one of the homecoming shows I always
go to at least one or two and this year I was
like I'm going all four nights and it got to
the point like I went the first night Wednesday
night and I was like there's no way That's just
me going and hanging out. I've slept pretty much
all day the last two days. That weekend was just
like Saturday and Sunday for me. I just was the
laziest piece of shit. I just didn't do anything.
I don't know how any of those guys do it. Half
of them were out at that comedy show the next
night too. I know. They're supermen, man. I don't
get it. They save up a lot for that. They know
it's coming. They probably don't do a whole lot
else other than. Yeah, they're not really right
now. They're not playing a bunch right now. That's
the only thing for a while. I think this whole
year they're not really doing a bunch of touring.
So Patterson Saturday night at the very end of
the show said that they are not playing. They're
playing a few shows in Florida. I'm definitely
going to have to go to one of those. I saw some
festival that wasn't out, yeah. But Jason's going
to be there too, so I have a feeling there'll
be some crossover and that'll be pretty good.
Yeah, might be. And then he said they're going
in the studio and recording a new record and
then they're going to hit the road next year.
Yeah, Jay told me they're starting to work on
the record. I'm really excited because I think
that their records are best when the country
is in hell. Yeah. We'll see what happens. A lot
of inspiration. When they get pissed off, it
seems like they're sure as hell is. Yeah, so
they should have plenty of material. Matt, it's
been really great talking to you, man. Yeah,
man, you too. I really appreciate you being here.
Thanks for having me. Once again, man, that Possibilities
record way out is so good. And I also can understand
why when you put out something that good and
it doesn't. blow up yeah it's heartening yeah
i get that man we did a pretty ton like i said
not a ton of touring but we we hit it hard and
we had reviews and all kind of magazines and
yeah we had some pretty pretty decent promotion
that we go to play a show in saint paul minnesota
and there was a article in the paper but there'd
just be nobody there right I do think that record
is getting a lot more appreciation as time goes
on. I hope so, yeah. I think it's becoming kind
of a cult classic. Yeah. I've always, what I've
hoped is enough people would eventually discover
it. And it's the thing I'm most proud of that
I've ever done. And I just think it's a great
album. I'll put a link to it in the description.
Yeah, please do. And hopefully. At some point,
we can have that out on vinyl. That's a dream,
too. That would be killer. I would love for as
many people as could find out about it that don't
already know about it. I think it's great. I'm
biased. It is. If the Lanes record is just what
I heard the other night, then it's fucking awesome,
too. Pretty proud of that one, too. Yeah, you
should be, man. Thanks for being here, man. Yeah,
man. Thank you. Thanks. Appreciate it. That was
my interview with Matt Lane. I had a great time
talking to him. If you haven't already, go check
out my interview with Kevin Lane from the Lanes.
That's a great interview as well. I've also had
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