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when we're born, can only see through a pinpoint

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-sized hole into what our period of time is in

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effect to the universe. And so, like, in that

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moment, I feel like when you deal with your mortality

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and acceptance that, like, you may not be here

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in a year. That hole expands. Hey, y 'all. We

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got a great episode of Overeducated and Underemployed

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for you this week. We got Red Padilla from Red

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and the Revelers. I saw him open for Morris Day

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on the time, New Year's Eve. Sat down with Red

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on New Year's Day. Oh, man, that was such a great

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show. Hope you're digging the new theme song.

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If you haven't pre -ordered Love and Other Diagnosis

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by Sloan Brothers, there's a link in the description.

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Make sure you do that, and it'll be streaming

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everywhere next week. Next week, we got Wiley

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Gaby, who will be at the Dial Back Sound label

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showcase at Flickr on Friday as part of the Drive

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-By Truckers Heathens Homecoming. Dial Back's

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been doing a showcase every year. It's where

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I've seen Thelma in the sleeves. It's where I've

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seen Taylor Hollingsworth. And I'm excited to

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see Wiley. Wiley will be in the studio before

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that event. And you'll get to listen to that

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on your way up to Athens next week. I'm also

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sponsoring an event at the Blue Tavern. This

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podcast is with Danny Bedrosian of Parliament

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Funkadelic. He's going to be playing an exclusive

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curated historical set. going through and playing

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covers of Parliament Funkadelic songs, but also

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giving you a history lesson in between each one.

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I hope you all come out to that. It's going to

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be super limited, very small venue, Blue Tavern

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in Tallahassee, February 27th. And that's all

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getting geared up for the P -Funk Fest in April,

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celebrating George Clinton's 85th birthday. So

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get your tickets for that as well. I'm going

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to be there covering it. I'll be doing some interviews.

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We're going to have a great time. Hit that subscribe

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it. And tell me who you want to see on the show.

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Without any further ado, here's my talk with

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Red Padilla. Stay safe out there, y 'all. Welcome

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to Overeducated and Underemployed. Hell yeah.

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I'm here with Red Padilla. That's right. And

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Red and I have been friends in... This is actually

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a cool... It is. Cool... Bringing together of

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a bunch of different worlds for me. Beginning

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of this season, I had Tommy Cimbasso on. Hell

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yeah. I don't know that you really know him,

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but he runs the Monday Night VR Comedy Nights.

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Oh, that's cool. That you've come and seen. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. He's always hosted. And Red's come

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and seen me perform in VR quite a bit. I've helped

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him do some stuff, trying to get some live music

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shows in VR. experimenting with it we're getting

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there hopefully we are still in the infant stages

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yeah yeah but anyway last night you opened for

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Morris Day in the motherfucking time Morris Day

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in the motherfucking time and I finally got to

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come see you play and it was quite an experience

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yeah and here we are and that's just a little

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backstory for everybody but I don't know much

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about The things we're going to be talking about

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today, to be honest with you. That's good. You're

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going to learn something today. That's great.

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So I'm going to start with the first question

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I ask everybody. What's the first song that you

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remember loving as a kid? Man, that's a great

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question. The first song that I remember loving

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as a kid, like just honestly, man. I can remember

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back, and I would probably say one of the first

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songs that I can remember just loving and wanting

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to dance and sing around to was probably Try

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a Little Tenderness by Otis Redding. Oh, hell

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yeah. We haven't done it with the band yet, but

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I really want to do it at one point. I just remember,

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I think with Otis, the thing with him for me

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was the energy, the way he sang. the way he controlled

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his voice and just the power behind it the feeling

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and that just i guess it just resonated with

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me just that i didn't just want to be a singer

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i wanted to be like a performer yeah but yeah

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i would say i would say it's probably one that

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i just like fell in love with there's a lot though

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i don't think i'm one of those persons that has

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just a favorite song yeah yeah i have a Favorite

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song that's fluid. It changes from time to time.

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Sure, sure. But that's one that you really remember

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connecting with. Oh, yeah. Do you remember where

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you heard it or anything like that? No, I just

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assume. So growing up, my parents, like, I would

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say controlled the radio before I was like 12.

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And so they just always had it on the oldies

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station. Oh, gotcha. So I may not know the artist

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or like the song titles, but. If any song from

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that era comes on, I can pretty much just sing

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along. Yeah. Because I've heard them 10 million

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times as a kid, and it just was one of those

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things that, like, I didn't know, like, popular

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music existed until I was, like, 12. Until, like,

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grunge came into my life and, like, Nirvana and

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stuff like that really came around. It was just

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like you were just exposed to oldies for the

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most part. That, yeah, and that and church music.

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I grew up in church and it's, like, southern

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gospel and stuff like that. And it wasn't like

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my parents kept it from me. It was just, I liked

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what we were listening to, so I never really

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sought anything else out because it was the 90s.

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We didn't have the internet. I couldn't just

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go online and be like, who's this? It was like

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I had to be around somebody that was listening

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to that music. And then you get into middle school

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and you get more exposed to that kind of stuff.

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Because I can remember the first time I ever

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heard Nirvana was at my first boy -girl party.

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Smells Like Teen Spirit comes on and these two

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dudes I know that were like the alternative dudes,

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like the outside kind of dudes. And they were

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like, oh, yeah. And they start running around

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headbanging. And I'm like, what? What is this?

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And then it just opened my whole world to a whole

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different new style of music. So I think everybody

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has, especially everybody that gets really into

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music, has one or two of those people growing

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up that. like kind of starts in their teenage

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years, turn them on and stuff. Usually it's an

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older brother or like a friend's older brother

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or something. Was there somebody like that for

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you? So yeah, it was, it was a pretty much a

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different, it was several people because like

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I was classically trained on a piano from like

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four to 18. Okay. So my background is classical

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music and and then whatever oldies and stuff.

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But as far as playing music, that's what I focused

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on was classical. Were you playing in the church

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a lot? No, actually. Nobody knew I played piano

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until I was 16. Wow. How did they talk about

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that? My mom started me on piano because she

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said that we had one and I just wouldn't stop

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playing on it. So she was like, if you were just

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going to do that, I had to get you lessons so

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you would play an actual song and just quit banging.

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Did anybody else in your family play? So my mom

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played a little bit, and that's why we had one.

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And then my dad, he was a bass guitar player

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in a cover band in the 60s in Oklahoma. And he

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played a little bit of guitar. And every now

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and then, they would go in there. But it was

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just we had access to it. And it was a time period

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where you didn't have tablets. You didn't have

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on -demand television. So when something wasn't

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up, that's what I did. I went in there, and I

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just... pretended to be a musician i just was

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and so they got me that and piano and music but

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you didn't even really know that pop music was

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a thing yet so you're not really no you're like

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pretending to be something that you're not really

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sure of yeah it's probably because what i heard

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in church yeah playing in church and stuff like

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that like the first time i ever sang in front

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of a crowd my mom said was when i was three and

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they had a we had a Every Wednesday night, one

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night a month, our church would do this thing

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where basically like a Christian open mic. And

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anybody that wanted to come up and sing a song

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from the congregation could go up there and sing.

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You just had an opportunity to go up and share

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your testimony or do a Bible verse or do a skit

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or you could do whatever. Which I thought looking

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back now is pretty, at the time was pretty far

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forward thinking. Yeah, that's the church for

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sure. But she said, they said, does anybody want

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to, she had me sitting in her lap. Does anybody

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want to come up here and sing a special? She

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said, I just jumped out of her lap, ran down

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to the front, grabbed the microphone and sang

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Jesus Loves Me and came back and sat down. And

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she said, I knew ever since then that that's

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where you wanted to be was like on stage. And,

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but as far as like piano goes, it would, for

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me, it was just something that was like for me.

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Yeah. The music was for me. It wasn't, it was.

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I studied the music because I liked the challenge,

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but I loved creating something. And it was, I

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think I practiced every day for at least two

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hours, at least, if not more, for years. And

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I went through four different teachers in my

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time period. Did you just outgrow them? Yeah.

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But it was a thing that I would sing specials

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in church. Everybody in church knew me as like

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a singer. It was just. I was in my own world,

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so it never occurred to me to tell people that

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I played the piano. Because I didn't deem it

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as a relevant point to whatever I was interacting

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with. I decided I was going to finally play a

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special in church. My mom was like, I want you

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to play something. And so I was like 16, and

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so I told them I was going to do a special. So

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they called me up, and I go up, and I walk, and

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I sit down at the piano. And some of the people

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in the church started laughing. because they

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thought it was a joke they thought i because

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i was a funny dude i was always joking and stuff

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and they thought i was playing a joke and then

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i've learned this rendition of this there's this

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christian piano player named dino that was real

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big in the 90s and he'll take hymns and make

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them sound real real impressive when it's just

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really a bunch of arpeggios arpeggios around

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it yeah yeah and and so i bust out this piece

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and everybody's just what the like But it was

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just, yeah, it was just one of those things that

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like, and then once I graduated high school,

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I was done with classical piano. I just decided.

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Because you don't play piano in your current

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band, really. I explored a little bit this Christmas.

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I played some and I can, I've started trying

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to write some on the piano more just as a different

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exploration because I found that like all that

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muscle memory is still there. Like when I write,

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I'll find myself playing riffs and classical

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music that I used to play just because it's what

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I'm used to. Yeah, man, it was just one of those

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things that I took it as far as I was going to

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take it, and I wanted to take it. And I was like,

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it's time to do something else musical -wise.

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Because at that point, I'd found the guitar,

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too. And then it was punk rock. Then let's back

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up for a second. So you're learning classical

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piano this whole time. What are you listening

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to? You're Nirvana, your first boy -girl party.

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The floodgates open, I'm guessing. I'm playing

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piano, and as I'm growing up, it's Otis Redding,

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it's Wilson Pickett, it's James Brown, but it's

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the Beatles. It's Willie Nelson, it's Gwen Campbell,

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it's Merle Haggard, it's Frank Sinatra, it's

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Earth, Wind & Fire, it's anything. So I'm the

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type of person, like, I don't latch on to artists

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and I don't latch on to players. Some of my guys,

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they know all the players on all the albums.

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They want to know who they are. That never occurred

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to me to even look to see who was playing on

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that one. Because to me, what I worshipped was

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the song. To me, ultimately, it doesn't matter

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what genre of music it is. If it's a good song,

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it's a good song. I appreciate good songs because

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being classically trained, you're structurally

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minded. I view a song and its structure. How

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is it put together? How's the hook on this? When

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I write, one of the things our producer told

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me, he said, you're easy to produce for because

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you write your songs with the intention of how

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they're going to sound on the radio. When I look

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at something, I'm looking for to be structured

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a certain way. And to have a hook. Yeah, and

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to have, that's how I'm minded. how my approach

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to music always was. It wasn't, for me, it wasn't

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hero worship. It was song worship. Like how can

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you get the best take out of this combination

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of notes? And so I think that really shaped.

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So like I'm going through and I'm listening to

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all that. And then I get into that grunge area.

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And of course that leads to me. It was the nineties.

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So I start skateboarding. So then I get into

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skate punk and I get into ska music. Yeah. Which.

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When I was little, what really affected me about

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Motown and everything was that use of horns.

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Real horn -driven music, and then you had this

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rock -pump music, and then you had ska that combined

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both of them. And then it was this thing where,

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you know, that explores into, you go into the

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2000s, you get bands like Jamiroquai and stuff

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like that, and that's taking these almost Stevie

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Wonder -type... grooves and combining them with

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this modern rock. And it's just all this stuff.

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And, and I think that the reason my writing is

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the way it is, is because I've just had this

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conglomeration of just all these people introduced

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me. So like my sister was real influential to

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me. She's eight years older than me, but she

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was a dancer. And as good as I am at music, she

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was great at dancing. She did ballet. She went

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to Russia. I studied the Bolshoi Theater one

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summer, ballet, and just did tap. One of the

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fastest tap dancers I've ever known in my life.

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But because of that, we always, and I was younger,

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so I just had to watch whatever she wanted to

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watch. So I grew up on a lot of musicals. I grew

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up watching Gene Kelly. I grew up watching Gregory

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Hines and all these people and going to plays

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and stuff. I remember she took me at 15 to go

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see Harry Connick Jr. in concert. And he brought

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his full New Orleans brass band. And, dude, that

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changed my life at that moment because I'd never

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been exposed to that. I was a Mexican kid in

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fucking rural Arkansas. How am I going to find

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New Orleans sounds without being there in the

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90s? And so when that came about, that's when

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it led to what I'm doing now. That was very influential

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for me. I got to meet Gregory Hines because of

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her. She took me to meet Gregory Hines and people

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that a lot of people my age didn't have a clue

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who they were. And I just had this really cultured

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upbringing between my parents and her and then

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friends that I also played guitar with. There's

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a guy, I don't know if you've ever heard of him,

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named Adam Fawcett. So we graduated high school

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together. Oh, wow. And that was me and him and

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my buddy Josh Shepard. We'd get together and

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play guitar and stuff. They were real influential

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in showing me that. like Radiohead and teaching

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me these riffs and all this other stuff and kind

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of pushing me towards that way. So when did you

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start writing songs then? I would say I started

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to attempt to write songs when I first started

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learning guitar. I had this teacher named Danny

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Fletcher, and he was an amazing guitarist and

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a great teacher. I only got to... study with

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him for a year just because like the end of my

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high school years I was I was a real busy kid

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like I did I was involved in a lot of different

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things and between piano and that and sport because

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I also played sports and so I just didn't I had

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to give up something and I was already proficient

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enough that my mom wasn't going to let me finish

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and quit piano before I graduated it was he gave

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me enough to build that I knew enough music that

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I could take guitar on my own to a point at that

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point, but he really encouraged me to write.

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And I, I look back on that now and there's not

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a lot of teachers that do that, but it didn't

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matter if it was shitty or not. He would take

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it and he'd go, okay, well that's, that's a good

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start. And he, I think the thing about songwriters,

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they got to learn as a, you got to write some

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shit ass songs before you get good. You know,

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it's a muscle like anything else. You're not

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coming out the gate being Jason Isbell. You know

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what I'm saying? He went through some times to

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get where he was as an artist. We've all heard

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that self -titled solo record. Yeah, dude. I'm

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sorry, Jason. So that's when I started. But it

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was probably early 2000s when I moved down here

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and I got involved. There was a large punk scene

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in Mobile at that time. What brought you to Mobile

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in the first place? School. My dad got a job

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down here and I ended up coming down here to

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visit for school. I wanted to get out of Arkansas.

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And that was another pivotal decision that led

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me to where I'm at now is that move down here.

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I fell in love with the area, and so I decided

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not to leave. I didn't finish college. I decided

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not to leave when I got in. It's just down here

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has been real influential. That brought me down

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here. You mentioned it briefly, but can we talk

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a little bit about some of the dynamics of growing

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up as a Mexican kid in Arkansas? You had a lot

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of community. Not a lot of Mexican community.

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That's what I want to explore a little bit. I'm

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mixed. My dad's full -blooded. My mom's a white

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German lady from Tennessee. It's this real crazy

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mix of cultural blends. I think I identified

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more with my Mexican side just because we were

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closer to my dad's side of the family. I would

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go and visit them. I had a lot of this Tejano

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music playing. You would go down to Mexico? No,

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we go to Oklahoma. Oklahoma? Yeah, my grandparents,

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they migrated when they were kids and ended up

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living in Oklahoma and stuff like that. But growing

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up in Arkansas, there's probably maybe three

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other Mexican kids where I grew up. But my mom

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was a schoolteacher. She was white, so everybody

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pronounced my last name Padilla instead of Padilla.

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And I never really corrected until we moved down

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here. I started using the correct pronunciation.

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He never had paella, I guess. I don't know if

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it was just... I was a kid that was very much

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in my head all the time. Yeah, it sounds like

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it. Yeah, I never really existed, I felt like,

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with everybody else. I always felt like I was

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invisible. Not to the point where people don't

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see me. I just didn't consider that people could

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see me all the time. And so... I don't know if

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maybe I was just oblivious to any type of friend.

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So there was a story about, I have this friend

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and he was a black guy and he, so probably he

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was going to take this white girl. And so he

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went to go purchase tickets. And evidently there

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was this big to do because they, he was going

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to take a mixed couple. And I didn't find out

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about this till after we graduated and people

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were talking to me like, don't you remember this?

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And bro, I completely missed. You were just oblivious.

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And because in my mind, there was no way that

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would happen because it makes zero sense. Because

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here's my parents are a mixed couple. Nobody

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has a problem with them. Why would it be an issue?

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Which that's a whole nother story we won't get

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into. But and all that was handled in the correct

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manner that it should have been. Thankfully,

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I'll say for my town. But yeah, dude, I was just

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so I think it was just that I had very, very

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encouraging parents. A lot of times people will

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share with me stuff about their lives and they

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didn't have, and not everybody had a great childhood

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and everything like that. And sometimes I get

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this, I don't know if it's like survivor's guilt.

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Yeah, yeah. My parents, I had a great childhood,

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man. And I think that's a real testament to my

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parents more than anything that like, they never

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limited me on what I thought I could do. If I

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wanted to try another instrument, if I wanted

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to try anything, they were like, yes. go for

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it see how far you can take whatever it is you

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want to take and i think that it really like

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my sister is very successful in everything she

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does and i think that really just fostered an

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environment where it allowed creativity to just

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be explored with no limits so and and and if

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you can give a human an ability to do that then

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there's no telling what can happen but that's

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that's that's i'm probably talking on a tangent

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because i'm a little high right no you're good

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man this is no this is this is perfect i am curious

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because this is actually something we talk about

00:22:04.009 --> 00:22:06.309
with a lot of people a lot of artists musicians

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is like some of them have a tumultuous upbringing

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that yeah kind of causes or i don't want to say

00:22:13.269 --> 00:22:15.549
causes but is certainly a contributing factor

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to their artistic like endeavors and stuff like

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that right and sometimes it's more internal and

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then sometimes they're they're like a Jim West

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from Weird Al's band was like no I just love

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music I'm pretty happy dude and I'm like that

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must be nice but but do you struggle with anything

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internal like anxiety depression despite having

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like a nice upbringing I think Oh, I think anybody

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at any point in their life is going to experience

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that. I don't think you're human unless you experience

00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:53.079
that at some point. Sure, but has it ever been

00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.640
debilitating? No, I don't think it is. I'm generally,

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like Jim West, I'm just generally a happy person.

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I don't operate with a lot of worry in my life.

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Yeah, yeah. That must be nice. Well, I think

00:23:09.019 --> 00:23:10.740
there's a lot of things that happened in my life

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that led to that as a contributing factor. I

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was born with an incurable immune deficiency,

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have an immune deficiency. If I don't have my

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medicine, I'm gone. And my mom fought for me

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to get tested at a time when it was basically

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unknown and argued with doctors and fought for

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me to get tested. And they caught it in enough

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time that I've been lucky enough. and blessed

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enough to live a very full and healthy life,

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even though I'm dependent on this medicine. But

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a lot of people that have my disease do not get

00:23:40.130 --> 00:23:41.710
lives like that. They're very sick and stuff

00:23:41.710 --> 00:23:46.170
like that. So when I was 12, there was a problem

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where some hepatitis C got leaked into a batch

00:23:48.289 --> 00:23:50.430
of medicine, which for somebody, there's a lot

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of kids that died because of it. So like my parents

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had to sit me down and explain what was going

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on. So I had to have this moment where. I had

00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:05.920
to come to terms with like my mortality as a

00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:11.700
person. So like, I think at 12, it really shifted

00:24:11.700 --> 00:24:16.519
my perspective of what I found important in life.

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Because I feel like ever since that time, that

00:24:19.779 --> 00:24:24.420
time period or that moment, my obsession became

00:24:24.420 --> 00:24:29.960
not with like money or material things. But my

00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:34.859
obsession became with time and making sure that

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I'm remembered. You know what I'm saying? It's

00:24:38.019 --> 00:24:42.259
almost like we, when we're born, can only see

00:24:42.259 --> 00:24:46.119
through a pinpoint -sized hole into what our

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period of time is in effect to the universe.

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And so in that moment, I feel like when you deal

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with your mortality and acceptance, that you

00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:58.720
may not be here in a year. you're that whole

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expands and that like in the grand scheme of

00:25:03.619 --> 00:25:05.500
things you're just this little bit of nothing

00:25:05.500 --> 00:25:10.920
that operates and we see like in our lifetime

00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:12.920
all these great musicians but how many great

00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:15.500
musicians have existed that we never will ever

00:25:15.500 --> 00:25:19.519
know existed right just because that's just how

00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:22.440
life is you can't it's an ocean and you get swallowed

00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.440
up by it so how do you create something Like

00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.119
Mozart, that's going to be here 500 years from

00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:35.900
now. So what is the real goal in life? There's

00:25:35.900 --> 00:25:37.779
a lot of rich motherfuckers that have existed

00:25:37.779 --> 00:25:39.759
in this plane of existence since we've become

00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.299
humans that are lost to the annuals of time,

00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:44.640
that their names will never be remembered, and

00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:47.319
they'll never be known. And there's a lot of

00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.460
them that we remember for horrible things. Yeah,

00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:53.059
yeah, yeah. But then you take Van Gogh, who in

00:25:53.059 --> 00:25:56.099
his time period was ridiculed. He's remembered

00:25:56.099 --> 00:26:01.099
for everything. Right. So who really wins? And

00:26:01.099 --> 00:26:03.779
if you can put it in terms of winning or losing,

00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.140
which is a dumb thing to do, really, but in the

00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:09.440
grand scheme of things, what's really important?

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I think the real winners are the people that

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get to experience Van Gogh. Van Gogh's art. Or

00:26:17.220 --> 00:26:22.019
Mozart's music. At the end of the day, the people

00:26:22.019 --> 00:26:24.039
that really benefit from that are the people

00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:27.529
like... They're not the artist. It's humanity.

00:26:27.670 --> 00:26:31.109
It didn't benefit really anything. It's humanity,

00:26:31.230 --> 00:26:33.750
but preserving it and being able to keep it around.

00:26:33.849 --> 00:26:35.910
But I think the thing about the benefits of the

00:26:35.910 --> 00:26:39.630
artist in that point is, to me, that's truly

00:26:39.630 --> 00:26:45.269
the only way in this physical world to have an

00:26:45.269 --> 00:26:48.750
eternal life, to have something that you've done

00:26:48.750 --> 00:26:54.740
reverberate through history and grow. and change

00:26:54.740 --> 00:26:59.339
not only people, but cultures. Yeah. And create

00:26:59.339 --> 00:27:02.220
whole new art movements based off of what you

00:27:02.220 --> 00:27:09.740
did. Right. That to me is, money's cool. It makes

00:27:09.740 --> 00:27:13.539
things easier. Yeah, at a certain point, when

00:27:13.539 --> 00:27:16.819
you don't have to. Once you have enough to not

00:27:16.819 --> 00:27:21.099
stress about it, everybody says that's kind of

00:27:21.099 --> 00:27:23.920
the top of what happiness money is going to bring.

00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:30.759
And the thing is, we've made it a prison. That's

00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.579
the thing is we've made money a prison and it's

00:27:33.579 --> 00:27:37.440
driven us to this weird lifestyle that we live

00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.769
now that is completely unnecessary. And there

00:27:40.769 --> 00:27:42.369
was a discussion I was having with my guitar

00:27:42.369 --> 00:27:44.609
player this morning before he left was like,

00:27:44.750 --> 00:27:51.390
human beings are meant to create. Say you believe,

00:27:51.569 --> 00:27:55.369
if your thing is religion and you believe in

00:27:55.369 --> 00:27:58.789
Jesus or you believe in God, and that's the way

00:27:58.789 --> 00:28:02.809
I was brought up. So that's how I mostly relate

00:28:02.809 --> 00:28:07.700
with the world is that. You know, it's said in

00:28:07.700 --> 00:28:09.740
the Bible that we were made after His image.

00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:13.720
He's a creator. That's what He does. And if we're

00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:15.960
in His image, that means we're made to be creators

00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:18.700
too. We're not made to be put on this earth to

00:28:18.700 --> 00:28:21.339
consume. And I'm not talking about like consuming

00:28:21.339 --> 00:28:24.460
art, but just like to make our main focus in

00:28:24.460 --> 00:28:27.519
life to consume. I'm working hard to get that

00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:29.750
boat. I'm working hard to go on this trip. And

00:28:29.750 --> 00:28:31.109
there's nothing wrong with working hard. I'm

00:28:31.109 --> 00:28:33.150
not talking about anything bad about that. There's

00:28:33.150 --> 00:28:35.710
a great time to have worth at it. But when our

00:28:35.710 --> 00:28:39.869
main focus as human beings becomes to work to

00:28:39.869 --> 00:28:44.529
consume, we're limiting ourselves as a society

00:28:44.529 --> 00:28:48.950
or as a community or even as a species because

00:28:48.950 --> 00:28:52.250
we're leaving so much unused energy on the table

00:28:52.250 --> 00:28:55.170
that's just thrown to the side for something

00:28:55.170 --> 00:28:58.119
as common as money. Yeah, yeah. You know what

00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:01.880
I'm saying? Right. We are made to create. We

00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:07.200
are made to invent. We are made to make things

00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.099
that change and evolve this world into something

00:29:10.099 --> 00:29:13.019
better. So I was watching a video with Hank Green

00:29:13.019 --> 00:29:17.019
talking about, and he's like a science YouTube

00:29:17.019 --> 00:29:22.960
guy. Yeah. But really like pop culture, pop science

00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.190
kind of stuff. He's talking about. The earliest

00:29:26.190 --> 00:29:30.190
instances of, like, string found in archaeology.

00:29:30.470 --> 00:29:34.670
Yeah. And all that's beside the point. Because

00:29:34.670 --> 00:29:37.430
what I wanted to bring up is this comment that

00:29:37.430 --> 00:29:41.869
he makes in this video. It's like, most of human

00:29:41.869 --> 00:29:48.890
history was spent with humans just spinning string.

00:29:49.130 --> 00:29:51.970
Like, that's what they would do, like, 90 % of

00:29:51.970 --> 00:29:54.269
their day. It's just they'd be sitting around.

00:29:54.650 --> 00:29:58.549
making string and talking and making string and

00:29:58.549 --> 00:30:01.490
talking like pre loom pre spinning wheel yeah

00:30:01.490 --> 00:30:03.670
they're just you're just making you're just making

00:30:03.670 --> 00:30:05.710
you're sitting around making string making twine

00:30:05.710 --> 00:30:09.069
talking making rope talking because it was like

00:30:09.069 --> 00:30:11.509
one of the most versatile technologies and we

00:30:11.509 --> 00:30:14.390
needed it for everything and and i'm just sitting

00:30:14.390 --> 00:30:18.009
there thinking yeah and then like eventually

00:30:18.009 --> 00:30:20.849
maybe somebody is not great at making string

00:30:20.849 --> 00:30:24.400
but they they learn how to play a drum or a flute

00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:28.259
and so somebody's gonna start you know playing

00:30:28.259 --> 00:30:30.180
some music while everybody else is making string

00:30:30.180 --> 00:30:34.740
and then maybe that's how culture is born is

00:30:34.740 --> 00:30:37.880
born out of creating yeah it's not born out of

00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:42.240
consuming it's born out of people making things

00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:46.440
that are because they have no other choice but

00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:50.019
to get it out of them yeah and i think that's

00:30:50.019 --> 00:30:54.519
like when you like When you're born, I feel like

00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.599
I was born to be a musician. There was a time

00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:59.759
period when I quit playing and I quit creating,

00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.980
and it made me a miserable human being. It was

00:31:03.980 --> 00:31:08.599
like I was stopped up. I would lash out because

00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:16.640
I had no mode of catharsis, no mode of emptying

00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:18.640
that self, and it turned me into somebody that

00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.059
I didn't like. it turned me into an angry person

00:31:22.059 --> 00:31:25.759
a frustrated person and I honestly believe it's

00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.960
if and I'm not saying like I have the answers

00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:31.559
for depression and stuff like that but I think

00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.319
the thing is is like a lot of the problems we

00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:36.500
have with our society like that leads to depression

00:31:36.500 --> 00:31:39.660
and stuff is it's everything is a consumer model

00:31:39.660 --> 00:31:43.359
and if we would focus our attention and our energy

00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.180
into creating something more than ourselves then

00:31:46.180 --> 00:31:48.940
we would find this purpose that would keep us

00:31:49.420 --> 00:31:52.500
from feeling that way. Yeah. No, I, I completely

00:31:52.500 --> 00:31:55.859
agree. And I think, I think it's just, I think

00:31:55.859 --> 00:31:57.839
you're echoing what a lot of people have said

00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:00.299
too, when it comes to like that, when they stop

00:32:00.299 --> 00:32:04.799
creating, it's like, it's like damming up a river

00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.259
and, and the water's got nowhere to go and it

00:32:07.259 --> 00:32:09.799
just starts flooding everything and not in a

00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.599
good way. Yeah. It's, it's, yeah, we're made

00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.960
to create. So if you're listening to this podcast

00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.819
and you're, you're, having a rough go of life

00:32:19.819 --> 00:32:21.420
and it doesn't seem like things are working out

00:32:21.420 --> 00:32:23.940
for you, look at your life and go, what am I

00:32:23.940 --> 00:32:26.819
doing to create something? What am I doing? And

00:32:26.819 --> 00:32:29.000
it doesn't have to be a song. It can be woodworking.

00:32:29.019 --> 00:32:31.359
Maybe it's a piece of art. Maybe it's a story.

00:32:32.259 --> 00:32:36.880
Maybe it's whatever. Just try to create something.

00:32:37.220 --> 00:32:40.640
And you don't create it with the sense of I got

00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.539
to make something good. One thing that strikes

00:32:43.539 --> 00:32:46.779
me about our conversation so far and what you've

00:32:46.779 --> 00:32:50.200
said so far, man, is I think having that piano

00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.900
as a kid, having that thing that's just for you,

00:32:53.059 --> 00:32:56.960
because you could have been as good or as terrible

00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.039
at it as anybody and nobody would have cared.

00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:03.460
It was just for you. You happened to be fucking

00:33:03.460 --> 00:33:08.339
great. Yeah, it happened to work out. But there

00:33:08.339 --> 00:33:11.660
was no pressure. Yeah, and I think that's the

00:33:11.660 --> 00:33:14.880
thing is the intention is don't learn the instrument

00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.470
because... you want to show off to somebody,

00:33:17.549 --> 00:33:19.569
learn the instrument because you love it. Learn

00:33:19.569 --> 00:33:22.170
it because when you play it, it makes you happy.

00:33:22.529 --> 00:33:25.589
When you play it, it makes you want to be better.

00:33:25.670 --> 00:33:30.250
It makes you want to make something new. And

00:33:30.250 --> 00:33:32.829
I think intention is 100 % of the thing too.

00:33:33.529 --> 00:33:35.210
Don't get into something to create it with the

00:33:35.210 --> 00:33:37.029
whole purpose of, oh, I'm going to get rich off

00:33:37.029 --> 00:33:38.829
of this. Because then it's not going to bring

00:33:38.829 --> 00:33:40.569
you any joy. It's just going to bring you frustration.

00:33:40.910 --> 00:33:44.109
I pity everybody on Shark Tank. every one of

00:33:44.109 --> 00:33:47.470
those guys i just feel bad for them yeah it's

00:33:47.470 --> 00:33:51.109
not my thing you know i just i feel a lot of

00:33:51.109 --> 00:33:54.250
problems our society could be solved by just

00:33:54.250 --> 00:33:57.029
redirecting our perspective what's important

00:33:57.029 --> 00:34:01.849
and how we should and that's the tall order i

00:34:01.849 --> 00:34:06.190
think we're fighting against and and we can we

00:34:06.190 --> 00:34:08.369
can shift gears here in a second but i think

00:34:08.369 --> 00:34:11.230
i think you're absolutely right and i think it's

00:34:11.230 --> 00:34:17.760
coming from The people who have an invested interest

00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.780
in capital and it growing perpetually. And they

00:34:21.780 --> 00:34:25.239
own all the media outlets. They own everything

00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:30.420
we consume. And it promotes this culture of consumption

00:34:30.420 --> 00:34:33.500
instead of creation. But I do want to talk about

00:34:33.500 --> 00:34:37.699
the things you've created. Okay. And so you started

00:34:37.699 --> 00:34:40.920
writing songs when you started playing guitar.

00:34:41.530 --> 00:34:44.190
Were you playing in bands in high school at all?

00:34:44.590 --> 00:34:49.250
In 16, he would put together some of his students.

00:34:49.489 --> 00:34:53.030
He had instruments, and so he put a few of us

00:34:53.030 --> 00:34:56.090
together to do a little band. It's just encouraging

00:34:56.090 --> 00:35:00.309
us to try. He's planting seeds is what he was

00:35:00.309 --> 00:35:03.550
doing. There's a lot of people in the music community

00:35:03.550 --> 00:35:05.889
or just in your life that are there to plant

00:35:05.889 --> 00:35:07.630
seeds that somebody else is going to harvest

00:35:07.630 --> 00:35:10.800
later. I couldn't even be more grateful for that

00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.019
man to expose me to that and to encourage it.

00:35:14.900 --> 00:35:17.880
Honestly, Red, you're one of those people for

00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:21.719
me. When I first started doing comedy and you

00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.900
were coming to all my shows in VR and you and

00:35:24.900 --> 00:35:27.719
Jedi and everybody in that little group was just

00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:31.480
so encouraging to me and supportive. That's what

00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:33.679
it takes, man. People don't realize these big

00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.099
astral acts got that way because they had a community

00:35:36.099 --> 00:35:40.159
around them that... that fostered that. Well,

00:35:40.219 --> 00:35:42.320
and I could tell y 'all weren't lying to me either.

00:35:42.659 --> 00:35:45.239
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah,

00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:48.019
be honest with me. That's another thing. Because

00:35:48.019 --> 00:35:51.739
you don't want somebody to... I think about the

00:35:51.739 --> 00:35:54.119
culture I was raised in where everybody got a

00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:56.840
trophy and everybody was told they could be anything

00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.059
they want and they could do anything they want

00:35:59.059 --> 00:36:02.699
and they were capable of anything. I think that

00:36:02.699 --> 00:36:05.880
hurt us a lot because... Yeah. It got us to keep

00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.340
doing things that we weren't very good at when

00:36:08.340 --> 00:36:10.199
we could have redirected and started finding

00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:10.619
something that we were good at. That's the thing

00:36:10.619 --> 00:36:13.199
is, I think it's encouragement in itself is not,

00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.719
but blind encouragement is, and non -directed

00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:20.679
encouragement. Like, it's more so, you did a

00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.400
great job, but maybe why don't we try this instead?

00:36:23.619 --> 00:36:27.179
You might enjoy this more. And I think it's all

00:36:27.179 --> 00:36:28.860
the way you approach how you approach people

00:36:28.860 --> 00:36:30.219
and think, you don't have to be like, oh man,

00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:34.000
you know, I just, heads up, you suck. Try something

00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.239
else. You don't have to be. Like you said, blind

00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:41.599
encouragement. I started with that band. When

00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:43.860
I moved down here in 2000, the punk scene was

00:36:43.860 --> 00:36:46.699
real big. We started a punk band. As a matter

00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:48.360
of fact, I think I was probably the first punk

00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:52.659
band ever out of the University of Mobile. There

00:36:52.659 --> 00:36:56.059
was a place down here called The Vineyard. It

00:36:56.059 --> 00:36:58.380
was like a church during the day. On the weekend,

00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.199
the guy, Pastor Mike, would let us have punk

00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.070
and hardcore shows there. it was a place for

00:37:03.070 --> 00:37:04.769
kids to go and they would stay off the street.

00:37:04.889 --> 00:37:07.449
Yeah. Yeah. And he was real influential in that.

00:37:07.489 --> 00:37:09.829
Back then the punk and hardcore scene was like

00:37:09.829 --> 00:37:12.710
very straight edge. Very. Yes. Kind of like in

00:37:12.710 --> 00:37:17.010
line with a lot of. Yeah. Yeah. And so I met

00:37:17.010 --> 00:37:20.230
a lot of good friends through there that we did

00:37:20.230 --> 00:37:23.690
music and grew and I learned more about songwriting

00:37:23.690 --> 00:37:26.250
and stuff. And then when I got out of that and

00:37:26.250 --> 00:37:29.130
I started having kids, that's when I quit. And

00:37:29.130 --> 00:37:32.289
so when I came back, it was. After I went through

00:37:32.289 --> 00:37:35.969
my divorce, I finally had that thing in my life

00:37:35.969 --> 00:37:39.389
that caused me grief and sorrow that I had to

00:37:39.389 --> 00:37:42.730
draw off of. Yeah, yeah. And so if you listen

00:37:42.730 --> 00:37:45.329
to our first album, you can tell I was breaking

00:37:45.329 --> 00:37:47.550
into the scene here, and it was mostly in Americana

00:37:47.550 --> 00:37:49.190
country. And you're talking about the first record

00:37:49.190 --> 00:37:51.210
of Red and the Revelers, because I realize now

00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:53.050
I'm not sure we've actually said the full name

00:37:53.050 --> 00:37:55.789
of the band. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that was my

00:37:55.789 --> 00:37:57.050
bad. Yeah, Red and the Revelers. Red and the

00:37:57.050 --> 00:37:58.289
Revelers. The first album's called The Wizard

00:37:58.289 --> 00:38:00.880
and the Witch, and I'm very proud of it. But

00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:05.219
it was my interpretation of what Americana music

00:38:05.219 --> 00:38:06.860
is because I thought that's what I needed to

00:38:06.860 --> 00:38:10.340
be. And at the time, that's what I felt because

00:38:10.340 --> 00:38:12.239
that's what I was going through. What were you

00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:14.159
listening to at the time when you were writing

00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:17.280
the record? Oh, bro. There's a... God, dude.

00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:19.480
Hold on. You asked me that and I'm fucking...

00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:21.960
Tip of your tongue, huh? Yeah, my mind went blank.

00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.800
It's a self -titled album of a real unknown artist

00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.989
who's a Cuban. artist in the 90s that kind of

00:38:29.989 --> 00:38:33.570
did like Cuban grunge in the 90s. Neil Lara.

00:38:34.030 --> 00:38:36.809
N -I -L -L -A -R -A. Neil Lara. And he has a

00:38:36.809 --> 00:38:39.090
self and I fell in love with that album. And

00:38:39.090 --> 00:38:42.110
it really influenced me a lot. And of course

00:38:42.110 --> 00:38:44.150
I was listening. I was real good friends with

00:38:44.150 --> 00:38:46.610
Abe Partridge at that time. And I was listening

00:38:46.610 --> 00:38:48.929
to all his stuff and just everything around me

00:38:48.929 --> 00:38:51.789
was that style. So I thought I had to fit into

00:38:51.789 --> 00:38:53.949
that style. And then I had a couple songs that

00:38:53.949 --> 00:38:56.679
bordered on what we're doing now. And I saw the

00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.619
response. I got out of those. And then I got

00:38:59.619 --> 00:39:02.780
over my divorce. I got my wife now, and I'm really

00:39:02.780 --> 00:39:06.800
happy. But I was like, I can try to force that,

00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.260
but that's not who I am. So then I was like,

00:39:10.340 --> 00:39:13.679
we live in enough times where everything's fake

00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:17.219
that you see on TV and social media is full of

00:39:17.219 --> 00:39:19.119
just fakeness. And I was like, people are so

00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:24.650
hungry for just honesty and reality. Why am I

00:39:24.650 --> 00:39:26.250
going to get on here and pretend like I'm suffering

00:39:26.250 --> 00:39:29.130
when I'm not? I was like, just make people happy,

00:39:29.250 --> 00:39:32.829
man. And I think the direction I'm trying to

00:39:32.829 --> 00:39:36.250
take the band is to be this extreme positive

00:39:36.250 --> 00:39:41.250
force in the universe. I want people to know

00:39:41.250 --> 00:39:44.610
that they can come to our shows and just let

00:39:44.610 --> 00:39:48.989
go. You don't have to hold the weight of the

00:39:48.989 --> 00:39:51.670
world on your shoulders. You can set it down.

00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:56.139
and have fun and realize that there's more to

00:39:56.139 --> 00:39:59.079
this life than just these everyday bullshit problems

00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.760
we create for ourselves in this prison that we're

00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:06.539
putting ourselves in. It doesn't matter if you're

00:40:06.539 --> 00:40:09.699
white ring or left wing or you're red, black,

00:40:09.820 --> 00:40:13.820
yellow, orange, white, whatever, whatever sexual

00:40:13.820 --> 00:40:16.980
orientation, it doesn't matter because I was

00:40:16.980 --> 00:40:21.000
raised to believe that God created all of us.

00:40:21.469 --> 00:40:25.409
Yeah. And so. Jesus was a socialist, bro. Yeah.

00:40:26.170 --> 00:40:28.469
And it's just that, like, here's the thing. Like,

00:40:28.550 --> 00:40:32.730
if he created, like it said in the, I knew you

00:40:32.730 --> 00:40:36.269
before you were formed in the womb. And that

00:40:36.269 --> 00:40:38.349
means that everybody on this earth is my brother

00:40:38.349 --> 00:40:42.110
and my sister. We all come from the same point.

00:40:42.289 --> 00:40:46.750
And how can I believe, say I believe that and

00:40:46.750 --> 00:40:49.869
live in a life that is counterintuitive to that?

00:40:50.110 --> 00:40:53.920
And so. I want our fan base and I want everybody

00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:59.579
to know this is a family. This is La Familia.

00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:02.780
I felt that in the crowd last night, man. It

00:41:02.780 --> 00:41:06.960
was a really cool crowd. It was such a diverse

00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:11.360
group of people all coming together just to love

00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.519
life. That's the thing. I've had guys that are

00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:16.619
pure metalheads. That's all they listen to is

00:41:16.619 --> 00:41:19.179
metal. And he said, my buddy wanted me to listen

00:41:19.179 --> 00:41:21.460
to it. He goes, dude, I just fell in love. with

00:41:21.460 --> 00:41:24.219
your music because there's that ed there's hints

00:41:24.219 --> 00:41:26.860
of metal in our music you can hear it in there

00:41:26.860 --> 00:41:30.980
it's all this and it's it's it's be all things

00:41:30.980 --> 00:41:35.539
to all people and that's that's really what i

00:41:35.539 --> 00:41:40.280
want us to be is to bridge that gap between all

00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:43.000
these differences and say that like in this space

00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:49.000
there is no difference this space it's it's a

00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:54.530
spiritual thing At the end of all our shows,

00:41:54.690 --> 00:41:55.929
and I didn't do it last night because we weren't

00:41:55.929 --> 00:41:57.269
the headliner, but usually at the end of all

00:41:57.269 --> 00:42:00.389
our shows, I end it with go home happy. And that's

00:42:00.389 --> 00:42:02.909
a thing I started when I was in college. Because

00:42:02.909 --> 00:42:06.349
to me, at the end of the night, that's what's

00:42:06.349 --> 00:42:10.489
important. Are you going home happy? If I don't

00:42:10.489 --> 00:42:12.429
send you home happy, I didn't do my job. And

00:42:12.429 --> 00:42:17.570
I'm there to do my job. I think that's... really

00:42:17.570 --> 00:42:19.530
like the focus of the band and the music and

00:42:19.530 --> 00:42:23.030
the point of it all is that. That's what I write

00:42:23.030 --> 00:42:25.349
for. And it may have some politically charged

00:42:25.349 --> 00:42:27.429
messages in some of my stuff because I like to

00:42:27.429 --> 00:42:32.989
complain. Some people like to politicize everything.

00:42:33.329 --> 00:42:36.389
So it's, yeah, I'm just singing about this and

00:42:36.389 --> 00:42:39.369
everybody interprets it as political. Yeah, yeah.

00:42:39.909 --> 00:42:42.469
It's mostly I'm just telling you my frustrations.

00:42:42.489 --> 00:42:47.510
Right. And you do with it what you want. I want

00:42:47.510 --> 00:42:50.150
people to come to our shows and just let themselves

00:42:50.150 --> 00:42:55.550
feel what I feel when I'm on stage. Like, how

00:42:55.550 --> 00:42:58.489
can I make you feel that freedom? Because for

00:42:58.489 --> 00:43:03.329
me, it's a drug. Yeah, yeah. It is. Same. It's

00:43:03.329 --> 00:43:06.570
like mainline and heroin. I've never done that,

00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:09.110
but I imagine. I haven't either, but I just imagine

00:43:09.110 --> 00:43:13.590
that's what it's like. I imagine it's this. As

00:43:13.590 --> 00:43:15.969
someone who does struggle with. anxiety depression

00:43:15.969 --> 00:43:18.829
stuff like that who isn't a like generally happy

00:43:18.829 --> 00:43:21.989
person all the time sometimes getting on stage

00:43:21.989 --> 00:43:26.369
at 10 15 minutes of making people laugh is the

00:43:26.369 --> 00:43:28.550
only time i'm happy that day you know what i

00:43:28.550 --> 00:43:31.769
mean yeah dude and it is a drug yeah but and

00:43:31.769 --> 00:43:34.070
i think here the thing is is how you take that

00:43:34.070 --> 00:43:38.050
is you recognize that you recognize that this

00:43:38.050 --> 00:43:41.230
is what makes me happy yeah so when you're feeling

00:43:41.230 --> 00:43:44.460
unhappy when you're feeling like You remind yourself

00:43:44.460 --> 00:43:49.340
that all that, if you were to die tomorrow, wouldn't

00:43:49.340 --> 00:43:52.820
matter to nothing. Right? Yeah. But the people

00:43:52.820 --> 00:43:55.760
you made laugh would care. So how you combat

00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:59.340
that is you say, this is what's important to

00:43:59.340 --> 00:44:01.980
me. So that's what I'm going to focus on. I can't

00:44:01.980 --> 00:44:03.820
die now because I got another show to do. That's

00:44:03.820 --> 00:44:08.800
right, bro. You can't give up because... what

00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.559
I'm doing is too important to my journey on this

00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.820
earth. You know what I'm saying? Don't quit before

00:44:14.820 --> 00:44:18.719
your journey's over because the end point doesn't

00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:21.800
matter, man. Like where you end up at the end

00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.320
of all this, look at, there's people that have

00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:25.840
been on the top of the mountain and then they're

00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.320
at the bottom of the hill of their life. But

00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.480
man, they fucking reached the top of the mountain.

00:44:30.659 --> 00:44:33.699
You know what I'm saying? Don't get so focused

00:44:33.699 --> 00:44:36.659
on where you want to end up. Focus on how you're

00:44:36.659 --> 00:44:39.539
getting there. Focus on the journey. Because

00:44:39.539 --> 00:44:43.880
anticipation is always so much better than the

00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:47.840
payoff. Yeah, yeah. That's why I'll buy scratch

00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:50.179
-offs once in a while. Yeah, just do that three.

00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.559
No, no. I wait three days to scratch them off.

00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:55.679
Oh, hell yeah. Because it's like I'm getting

00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:58.000
a lot. That's like gambling edging. You know

00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.440
what I'm saying? I think I might have to use

00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.380
that, sir. I'm going to scratch. No, not today.

00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.320
I'm going to wait. Or I'll just scratch one number.

00:45:06.460 --> 00:45:09.659
Oh, yeah. I could be a millionaire by next week.

00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:13.099
Holy shit. Oh, man. You might hear that one.

00:45:13.659 --> 00:45:15.900
Bro, that's good material. That's good shit right

00:45:15.900 --> 00:45:21.000
there, yeah. So you have an amazing, like a group

00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.159
of world -class musicians playing with you in

00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.659
Red and the Revelers. What was the process of

00:45:27.659 --> 00:45:29.739
putting that band together? Because it's... Bro,

00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.920
so... That's a feat in and of itself, I feel

00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.960
like. When I first started, I didn't know anything

00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.260
really about the music scene and how it operated

00:45:39.260 --> 00:45:41.599
down here, but I'd have people tell me it was

00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.739
clickish and all this other stuff. And there

00:45:44.739 --> 00:45:46.739
probably was, because they'd been the same musicians

00:45:46.739 --> 00:45:48.800
used over and over and over again for years.

00:45:48.940 --> 00:45:51.360
There hadn't been a lot of change in a while.

00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.460
And you had this group of musicians, and they're

00:45:55.460 --> 00:45:57.619
fantastic musicians. It's nothing to say against

00:45:57.619 --> 00:45:59.900
their skill. It's just how things were done.

00:46:00.099 --> 00:46:02.000
They were always the ones that were picked for

00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:04.440
everything. And that just happens. It's just

00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:06.139
a natural thing. You're going to go for the best.

00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.500
But a lot of times when that's considered the

00:46:09.500 --> 00:46:11.760
best, you miss other people that are just as

00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.699
good or sometimes even better because they weren't

00:46:14.699 --> 00:46:19.380
there when all that first started. It was mostly

00:46:19.380 --> 00:46:22.440
like I'd go to open mics and I'd meet people.

00:46:22.739 --> 00:46:25.199
And I just, I have an eye. I feel like I have

00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:28.440
an eye for talent. I have an eye for what? Who's

00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:33.219
good. You think I'm funny. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

00:46:33.260 --> 00:46:36.139
exactly. So, like, Alvin, our trumpet player,

00:46:36.260 --> 00:46:38.820
somebody recommended me to him, and he played

00:46:38.820 --> 00:46:40.480
with his jazz band at this place called Kazoo

00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.340
on Dalton Street. Fucking cool -ass place. And

00:46:43.340 --> 00:46:46.159
I went in there totally out of place because

00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:49.840
it was, and not just because I wasn't black,

00:46:50.099 --> 00:46:52.559
but because everybody's dressed to the nines.

00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:54.579
Oh, yeah, yeah. And I go in there in a tank top

00:46:54.579 --> 00:46:57.519
and, like, Dickie shorts. You stuck out. And

00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.170
a bandana and sunglasses. Like I'm in the corner

00:47:01.170 --> 00:47:03.230
and everybody's like, where's Waldo? He's there.

00:47:04.630 --> 00:47:08.349
And I went and saw him two or three times before

00:47:08.349 --> 00:47:11.809
I finally was like, hey man. And I had somebody

00:47:11.809 --> 00:47:13.730
reach out to him telling him that I wanted him

00:47:13.730 --> 00:47:16.409
to play with us. I found a lot of these guys

00:47:16.409 --> 00:47:18.230
just through open mics and there were guys that

00:47:18.230 --> 00:47:21.550
weren't being utilized in a way that was befitting

00:47:21.550 --> 00:47:27.110
of their talents. And so it's like our bass player.

00:47:27.550 --> 00:47:29.269
was classically trained on piano growing up.

00:47:29.289 --> 00:47:31.989
He studied bass and guitar from Corky Hughes,

00:47:32.130 --> 00:47:34.070
one of the most amazing guitarists in this area,

00:47:34.210 --> 00:47:37.050
and then went to study bass, jazz bass in Loyola

00:47:37.050 --> 00:47:43.329
in New Orleans. Our keyboard player has a master's

00:47:43.329 --> 00:47:48.110
in choral theory. Trumpet player played in Tuskegee

00:47:48.110 --> 00:47:51.650
University's marching band. Our saxophone player,

00:47:51.730 --> 00:47:54.250
we tied together throughout our entire life when

00:47:54.250 --> 00:47:56.969
I moved down here and plays multiple instruments.

00:47:57.469 --> 00:48:02.530
Bam, his parents, our drummer's parents, he grew

00:48:02.530 --> 00:48:04.989
up in New York because his parents were big time

00:48:04.989 --> 00:48:09.170
musicians, like studio musicians, choral musicians.

00:48:09.610 --> 00:48:13.510
And so he had his own studio growing up. So it's

00:48:13.510 --> 00:48:17.429
just like you take all these guys that are just

00:48:17.429 --> 00:48:21.730
beast and you put them all together with a common

00:48:21.730 --> 00:48:25.190
goal. We literally never had one single argument

00:48:25.190 --> 00:48:27.659
as a band. in the eight years that we've been

00:48:27.659 --> 00:48:29.900
together. That's wild. Mostly it's because of

00:48:29.900 --> 00:48:31.840
how I structure the power structure in the band

00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:33.420
and I take care of everything. Benevolent dictatorship?

00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:39.179
Well, no, no, it's just I handle all, I pay for

00:48:39.179 --> 00:48:41.099
all the hotel rooms, I pay for all the gas. That

00:48:41.099 --> 00:48:43.699
sounds pretty benevolent. Yeah, and I do that

00:48:43.699 --> 00:48:47.000
because that money is always the main stress

00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.079
within the band. Yeah, yeah. So if I just take

00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.039
that upon myself, then they don't have to worry

00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:52.800
about it. We can just focus on making music.

00:48:52.900 --> 00:48:55.579
That, to me, is what is important. Whether I'm

00:48:55.579 --> 00:48:58.219
profitable or not, I don't give a shit. Now,

00:48:58.340 --> 00:48:59.940
is my goal to be profitable? Yeah, because I

00:48:59.940 --> 00:49:01.320
want to do this for the rest of my life. You

00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:03.820
want to keep doing it. But it's for the goal

00:49:03.820 --> 00:49:07.159
of just having to do this solely. Not for being

00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.500
rich. I just want enough money where I can just

00:49:09.500 --> 00:49:13.920
do this and only do this. Yeah, yeah. But, dude,

00:49:13.980 --> 00:49:17.420
you take that and you... That's my family, dude.

00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:21.360
I would die for those dudes. Any dude on that

00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.639
stage last night, I would take a bullet for in

00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.849
a heartbeat. And I can feel it, man. Y 'all,

00:49:26.849 --> 00:49:29.130
there was love on that stage. That's the thing

00:49:29.130 --> 00:49:34.409
is when you take family with no stress, no, and

00:49:34.409 --> 00:49:36.449
you put them in a moment where they can create

00:49:36.449 --> 00:49:39.130
together, dude, man, that's magic, bro. That's,

00:49:39.130 --> 00:49:44.429
that's, that to me is true power. Yeah. Like

00:49:44.429 --> 00:49:46.469
when I get behind that microphone, a stage that

00:49:46.469 --> 00:49:49.510
big, I feel powerful because I'm in control.

00:49:50.070 --> 00:49:54.530
Um, um, um, It's like I'm orchestrating moments.

00:49:54.750 --> 00:49:57.090
I'm not orchestrating music. I'm orchestrating

00:49:57.090 --> 00:50:01.530
memories. I'm orchestrating an entire night for

00:50:01.530 --> 00:50:04.250
somebody. I'm taking somebody's bad night and

00:50:04.250 --> 00:50:06.289
I'm turning it into the best night of their life.

00:50:06.789 --> 00:50:09.469
Dude, my night started pretty shitty yesterday.

00:50:09.969 --> 00:50:13.190
Yeah, yeah. And it turned right around. Hell

00:50:13.190 --> 00:50:15.389
yeah. What are some of the biggest challenges

00:50:15.389 --> 00:50:19.150
of having a band that big? Oh, yeah. Outside

00:50:19.150 --> 00:50:21.719
of personal. It doesn't sound like personalities

00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:23.920
are an issue. No, no, no. Everybody in our band

00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:26.260
is super late. Coordinating that many people

00:50:26.260 --> 00:50:28.239
has got to be hard, right? We don't really get

00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.539
to practice as much as we like to. That's another

00:50:30.539 --> 00:50:32.920
goal is to get to the point where it's our full

00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:35.639
-time job so we can... Because as good as we're

00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.480
doing now, and the music that we're making now

00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:42.760
I feel is great, I don't feel it's half of what

00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.820
we can do. Yeah. I don't think it's half of what

00:50:45.820 --> 00:50:48.460
our potential is. And it's just because we don't

00:50:48.460 --> 00:50:51.230
have... We all have families. We all have kids.

00:50:51.389 --> 00:50:54.030
We're older. We're starting at this a little

00:50:54.030 --> 00:50:56.269
bit later in life than most people normally do.

00:50:56.829 --> 00:50:59.130
Same with comedy, man. But I think it gives us

00:50:59.130 --> 00:51:02.670
a different perspective and a different way of

00:51:02.670 --> 00:51:05.690
doing it. I've really learned a lot of things

00:51:05.690 --> 00:51:07.809
that I thought were true about the music industry

00:51:07.809 --> 00:51:10.849
that have become myths to me now. Like the thing

00:51:10.849 --> 00:51:12.769
that you have to play every weekend everywhere

00:51:12.769 --> 00:51:15.090
if you want to grow. And that's just not true

00:51:15.090 --> 00:51:17.380
anymore. Yeah, yeah. We cut down on our shows

00:51:17.380 --> 00:51:19.139
last year and had more growth last year than

00:51:19.139 --> 00:51:22.440
we've had any of the other years. You play too

00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:24.559
often and people just feel like, oh, I'll catch

00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:28.300
them next time. Yeah, it's one of those things,

00:51:28.420 --> 00:51:31.559
but it's just the industry's changing and you've

00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:33.500
got to learn how to flow with it. You've got

00:51:33.500 --> 00:51:35.639
to learn how to adapt to the way the industry's

00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.179
changing and everything. The challenges of having

00:51:38.179 --> 00:51:39.820
that big of a band was when we first started

00:51:39.820 --> 00:51:43.159
off was really just making enough money to pay

00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.369
everybody. I had a lot of people tell me, oh,

00:51:46.389 --> 00:51:47.769
there's no way you'll make any money. There's

00:51:47.769 --> 00:51:50.230
no way. You need too many people. Nobody's going

00:51:50.230 --> 00:51:52.250
to want to deal with that. None of your players

00:51:52.250 --> 00:51:54.909
are going to want to stick around. And I think

00:51:54.909 --> 00:51:57.050
that's what was important about when I curated

00:51:57.050 --> 00:52:00.849
this band is I found people that that's not what

00:52:00.849 --> 00:52:03.150
they were in it for. Have you had any personnel

00:52:03.150 --> 00:52:07.300
changes at all? We have. Not because of animosity

00:52:07.300 --> 00:52:08.960
to the band. It's mostly like personal things

00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:10.579
going on in people's lives. It doesn't sound

00:52:10.579 --> 00:52:12.300
like there's a lot of turnaround, though. No.

00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.679
We're on our third drummer, but one of them moved.

00:52:15.940 --> 00:52:18.440
He moved to be with his girlfriend. Drummers

00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:21.559
are always hard to keep, man. They're like the

00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.019
notorious artists. I have guys that will come

00:52:24.019 --> 00:52:26.380
play with us anytime I want. I even have fill

00:52:26.380 --> 00:52:28.820
-ins for when we go on the road and stuff like

00:52:28.820 --> 00:52:31.760
that. And they're all cool, too, but I'm very

00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:34.860
picky about who. i put in the band just because

00:52:34.860 --> 00:52:37.360
they have to meet to me they have to meet skill

00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.059
level but it also personality level how how they

00:52:40.059 --> 00:52:43.280
hang how they is it going to create contention

00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:45.239
in the band i don't want any of that you know

00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:48.800
but so when we first started off that was a thing

00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.760
but i think the important thing was i found dudes

00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:53.360
that that wasn't their focus either their focus

00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:56.840
wasn't the money their focus wasn't making a

00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:59.760
living their focus was making music Their focus

00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:02.519
was making art. Their focus was, let's explore

00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:07.139
something that hasn't been done in this area.

00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:11.260
I honestly believe that we've created a sound

00:53:11.260 --> 00:53:14.400
for ourselves that if you hear one of our songs,

00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:18.780
it's us. I want to be like Cake. I want to be

00:53:18.780 --> 00:53:22.980
like Weezer. Like the Truckers. When it comes

00:53:22.980 --> 00:53:27.219
on, you know who that is. And that's what's important

00:53:27.219 --> 00:53:30.840
to me. I'm creating something that is uniquely

00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:35.960
me or uniquely Mobile. And somebody described

00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:40.000
it as a gumbo of music. Yeah, yeah. And it's

00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.280
beautiful, man. It's all these little ingredients

00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:44.559
that add up to this beautiful flavor that just

00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:46.500
knocks you on your feet. I can only think of

00:53:46.500 --> 00:53:48.539
a couple other bands that even really remind

00:53:48.539 --> 00:53:52.599
me of what y 'all do at all. And they're from

00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:56.900
the same area. And it also just shows me like...

00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.159
Y 'all are all doing the right thing. But, like,

00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:01.179
St. Paul and the Broken Bones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:01.300 --> 00:54:04.639
Alabama Shakes. I feel like are, like, in the

00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:06.639
same vein is what y 'all are doing. Yeah, we

00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:08.440
get lumped in, especially with St. Paul and the

00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:10.360
Broken Bones a lot. But this is how I equate

00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.360
it. Like, St. Paul and the Broken Bones is like

00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.800
Marvin Gaye and Otis Redding. And we're like

00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:19.269
Wilson Pickett and James Brown. Yeah, yeah. You

00:54:19.269 --> 00:54:20.650
get what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Two

00:54:20.650 --> 00:54:23.849
birds of a feathers, just ours are geared more

00:54:23.849 --> 00:54:26.369
towards this way. Agreed, yeah. I see, yeah.

00:54:26.510 --> 00:54:29.409
Yeah, yeah, but it's just. And I don't even think

00:54:29.409 --> 00:54:32.829
that y 'all sound that much alike. No, but it's

00:54:32.829 --> 00:54:34.269
the same. But it's the same. It's the same vein.

00:54:34.610 --> 00:54:36.949
It's like the same breed. It's like the same

00:54:36.949 --> 00:54:39.269
species. Yeah. We're just different breeds of

00:54:39.269 --> 00:54:41.690
dogs. We're both dogs. We're just different breeds

00:54:41.690 --> 00:54:43.849
of dogs. Yeah, yeah. But that's important. And

00:54:43.849 --> 00:54:47.530
they were a big influence on me. I saw them.

00:54:48.460 --> 00:54:50.559
When they had their self -titled EP themselves,

00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:53.219
I still have it in my house on CD. But they played

00:54:53.219 --> 00:54:55.739
at Callahan's. Yeah, yeah. They opened for the

00:54:55.739 --> 00:54:58.619
Truckers before their first album came out. Their

00:54:58.619 --> 00:55:00.480
lead singer went to school with my brother -in

00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:02.579
-law. Oh, yeah. In high school, they graduated

00:55:02.579 --> 00:55:06.440
together and stuff. Alabama, I really feel like,

00:55:06.460 --> 00:55:11.639
especially in Mobile, is producing some of the

00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.920
best music in the world right now. And I really

00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.590
feel like... there's all this attention that's

00:55:17.590 --> 00:55:19.650
paid to Nashville for so long because that's

00:55:19.650 --> 00:55:21.969
what we've been conditioned to think that, Oh,

00:55:22.070 --> 00:55:24.250
that's where you got to go. You got to go to

00:55:24.250 --> 00:55:27.789
Nashville. You got to, and you go to Nashville

00:55:27.789 --> 00:55:30.250
to get swallowed up and lost in the system. It

00:55:30.250 --> 00:55:32.989
does not give a shit about you. That's just there

00:55:32.989 --> 00:55:35.349
to turn you into money as much as they can and

00:55:35.349 --> 00:55:37.010
throw you to the wayside when you're done with

00:55:37.010 --> 00:55:39.889
it. And I really feel like in the next 15 to

00:55:39.889 --> 00:55:42.610
20 years, we could see this resurgence of like

00:55:42.610 --> 00:55:46.179
mobile starting to become this new. music city

00:55:46.179 --> 00:55:48.699
like the music city for actual musicians for

00:55:48.699 --> 00:55:52.320
like for artists and people who want to come

00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:56.039
here and create and make something independently

00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.320
of this system that's just been corrupted by

00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:03.480
greed and profit and just produces nothing but

00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:06.440
plastic fucking bullshit what do you think is

00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:09.320
unique about mobile that sets it apart from from

00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:12.159
so many other places i i don't i feel it but

00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:14.000
i can't put it into words i don't know what it

00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:16.500
is man there's definitely something growing up

00:56:16.500 --> 00:56:20.059
in a different place and moving down here i think

00:56:20.059 --> 00:56:24.119
it's man i'm a big nature guy we live on the

00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:25.940
creek here and everything it's a big inspiration

00:56:25.940 --> 00:56:29.239
to me but there's a lot of life here in mobile

00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:33.780
yeah like this area is known as the amazon of

00:56:33.780 --> 00:56:37.199
the united states like we have more species than

00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:41.000
the amazon jungle yeah ed wilson yeah it's it's

00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.969
nuts dude Ed Wilson, he grew up here, right?

00:56:44.190 --> 00:56:47.969
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and when I met him in grad

00:56:47.969 --> 00:56:51.969
school, he turned to me and he said, don't leave

00:56:51.969 --> 00:56:54.150
this area. This is the most biologically diverse

00:56:54.150 --> 00:56:57.849
area in the world. Yeah, and Mobile has been

00:56:57.849 --> 00:57:02.349
flown under six different flags. So you go downtown,

00:57:02.550 --> 00:57:04.309
you see all this. You can see it in the architecture,

00:57:04.510 --> 00:57:06.530
man. There's all this mishmash of all these different

00:57:06.530 --> 00:57:09.570
time periods of when this architecture was built

00:57:09.570 --> 00:57:14.820
through Mobile. So it's literally to me like

00:57:14.820 --> 00:57:18.820
the epitome of what America was supposed to be

00:57:18.820 --> 00:57:22.739
like. This melting pot, like all this culture

00:57:22.739 --> 00:57:26.079
that mixed together and came into its own thing

00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:28.619
because it's truly what evolution is supposed

00:57:28.619 --> 00:57:31.639
to be. I felt that in the crowd last night. And

00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:36.380
because Mardi Gras originated here and it's a

00:57:36.380 --> 00:57:39.250
Mardi Gras that's... focused on family and neighbors.

00:57:39.469 --> 00:57:41.809
It's not focused on, oh, show me your tits, throw

00:57:41.809 --> 00:57:43.690
me your beans, let's get drunk. And people do

00:57:43.690 --> 00:57:47.269
that. But it's more family friendly. It's more

00:57:47.269 --> 00:57:49.409
family oriented. It's more community oriented.

00:57:49.789 --> 00:57:54.469
So Mobile is this special place where like people

00:57:54.469 --> 00:57:58.510
will help you. Your neighbor will help you. Your

00:57:58.510 --> 00:58:04.030
friends will help you. Strangers. You go downtown

00:58:04.030 --> 00:58:06.760
during Fat Tuesday. You'll walk past somebody

00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:08.579
cooking sausage. Oh, man, you want a sausage?

00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:10.480
They don't know you from Adam, bro. But they're

00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:14.760
your friend for that moment. And I think when

00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.579
you have a place like that, it's such a positive

00:58:17.579 --> 00:58:22.059
environment to be in that you can't help but

00:58:22.059 --> 00:58:25.619
have all that camaraderie, that community, and

00:58:25.619 --> 00:58:29.519
it not create something special. Because that's,

00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.119
as humans, is how we're supposed to live. If

00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.000
we focused more on community and our neighbors,

00:58:35.550 --> 00:58:39.449
our lives would be so much better. Yeah. It would

00:58:39.449 --> 00:58:40.929
be so much better. You're absolutely right. So

00:58:40.929 --> 00:58:44.389
I saw a situation last night in my hotel that

00:58:44.389 --> 00:58:46.769
speaks to exactly what you're talking about.

00:58:46.889 --> 00:58:49.630
And I don't need to go into details, but there

00:58:49.630 --> 00:58:52.449
was a situation in the hotel lobby where somebody

00:58:52.449 --> 00:58:57.909
was pretty inebriated. Yeah. And the hotel could

00:58:57.909 --> 00:59:00.110
have handled it two different ways. They could

00:59:00.110 --> 00:59:03.570
have... Got security. Exactly. Gotten the man

00:59:03.570 --> 00:59:06.610
involved and made it a whole thing. But they

00:59:06.610 --> 00:59:10.389
didn't. They just helped the person, let them

00:59:10.389 --> 00:59:13.010
do their thing. Nobody was around, really. It

00:59:13.010 --> 00:59:14.949
wasn't like they were causing a scene or nothing.

00:59:15.530 --> 00:59:17.969
They just took care of them. And eventually they

00:59:17.969 --> 00:59:20.889
helped them to their room once they made sure

00:59:20.889 --> 00:59:23.750
they were medically okay. And that's the thing

00:59:23.750 --> 00:59:25.750
about down here, man. You go down to festivals

00:59:25.750 --> 00:59:27.429
down here and stuff, they allow you to bring

00:59:27.429 --> 00:59:29.679
coolers with your own alcohol. Yeah, I had a

00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:33.300
backpack last night. And as long as you're not

00:59:33.300 --> 00:59:35.679
making the nass out of yourself, they leave you

00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:37.780
alone, man. Yeah, they can give me shit. And

00:59:37.780 --> 00:59:40.659
they get the drunks and they'll put them in a

00:59:40.659 --> 00:59:42.480
drunk tank. They put them in a drunk tank and

00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:44.340
they leave them there. They sober them up. They

00:59:44.340 --> 00:59:46.760
may charge them depending on however some people

00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.559
need to be charged. Yeah. Y 'all are very welcoming,

00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:52.920
I got to say. That's the whole point, man. It's

00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:56.079
like you come visit Mobile. Yeah, you need to

00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:57.820
come visit Mobile because you're going to be

00:59:57.820 --> 01:00:00.500
loved on. You're going to be celebrated. You're

01:00:00.500 --> 01:00:03.300
going to be as you're not unwelcome. You're very

01:00:03.300 --> 01:00:05.239
much welcome. Yeah, this city is pretty awesome,

01:00:05.300 --> 01:00:09.199
man. We want to share with people the specialness

01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.920
of this place. And when you do that, it creates

01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:15.219
more magic that makes more people want to come

01:00:15.219 --> 01:00:17.880
here and more people. And then you end up with

01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:20.639
bands like the Red Clay Strays, a buddy of ours

01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:22.920
that they go out on the road and they tour super

01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.760
hard. and this community came together and built

01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.940
them up and and showed the outside world like

01:00:28.940 --> 01:00:31.599
we have stuff that's worth it here we have stuff

01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:35.340
that nobody else has y 'all are missing out and

01:00:35.340 --> 01:00:38.059
so here's a band that didn't have to go to nashville

01:00:38.059 --> 01:00:39.900
didn't have to move to nashville didn't have

01:00:39.900 --> 01:00:42.780
to play that stupid game and got everything they

01:00:42.780 --> 01:00:46.510
wanted yeah it's possible you can do it You don't

01:00:46.510 --> 01:00:49.449
have to buy into all these lies that are told

01:00:49.449 --> 01:00:51.989
to you that are just made to separate you from

01:00:51.989 --> 01:00:55.389
your money and have control over you. Separate

01:00:55.389 --> 01:00:57.449
you from the means of production. That's right,

01:00:57.530 --> 01:01:00.050
man. The revolution is now. Take a hold of it

01:01:00.050 --> 01:01:02.630
and just join in. Just do it. That's the thing.

01:01:02.670 --> 01:01:06.150
If you're out there and you want to get into

01:01:06.150 --> 01:01:08.829
music or you want to get into writing or you

01:01:08.829 --> 01:01:11.170
want to get into comedy, you know how you do

01:01:11.170 --> 01:01:14.219
those things? You just do it. It's actually never

01:01:14.219 --> 01:01:17.099
been easier to get started. Oh, yeah, easily,

01:01:17.219 --> 01:01:19.099
yeah. You just have access to so much stuff.

01:01:19.139 --> 01:01:23.380
But even then, it's just do it. Make the effort.

01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:26.380
Put the effort forth. Put everything you have

01:01:26.380 --> 01:01:28.800
into it. Don't take the shortcut. I used to focus

01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:31.780
so much, almost the opposite, where I needed

01:01:31.780 --> 01:01:34.400
everything to be perfect before I would do a

01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:38.519
thing. Everything had to be exactly how I imagined

01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:42.610
it would be. before i did the thing and it's

01:01:42.610 --> 01:01:44.969
never gonna be like that so just fucking do it

01:01:44.969 --> 01:01:48.250
well that's that's that's when when people i

01:01:48.250 --> 01:01:50.150
used to think that way too and i realized that

01:01:50.150 --> 01:01:53.750
that was a that was a crutch i gave myself as

01:01:53.750 --> 01:01:55.570
an excuse to get out of having to do it because

01:01:55.570 --> 01:01:59.130
i was scared it's true man fear's a bitch it

01:01:59.130 --> 01:02:03.389
is but here's the thing is i relish fear because

01:02:03.389 --> 01:02:06.610
when i'm scared of doing something and i do it

01:02:06.610 --> 01:02:09.820
and i conquer it god damn dude It's the best

01:02:09.820 --> 01:02:13.539
feeling in the world, man. God damn, dude. It

01:02:13.539 --> 01:02:18.639
sure is. Be scared, dude. Make yourself as terrified

01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:22.159
as possible because if you're terrified as possible,

01:02:22.219 --> 01:02:25.079
you're doing something that's worth it. Everything

01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:28.739
I've ever done that was worth doing was scary.

01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:32.780
Oh, yeah, dude. Everything. It makes life worth

01:02:32.780 --> 01:02:35.440
living, dude. It makes life worth it. God damn,

01:02:35.500 --> 01:02:38.519
who is calling me? Oh, you're trying to get me

01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:41.420
to come play poker, man. Not today, not today.

01:02:41.659 --> 01:02:44.219
But it's hard to get so emotional about shit

01:02:44.219 --> 01:02:47.260
like that. No, no, that's perfect, man. I appreciate

01:02:47.260 --> 01:02:51.260
you sharing all this with me, Red. You got an

01:02:51.260 --> 01:02:54.199
album coming out in April. Yeah, dude. Is that

01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:56.119
your fourth album? It's our second. Oh, it's

01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:58.059
only the second. Yeah, it just took forever.

01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.599
Why do I feel like I've heard more than two records

01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:04.199
already? I have a bunch of the singles out already.

01:03:06.230 --> 01:03:08.909
But we, yeah, the album's coming out in April.

01:03:09.230 --> 01:03:12.030
I can tell you April 10th, we'll be releasing

01:03:12.030 --> 01:03:14.610
the vinyl and releasing it on Bandcamp. And then

01:03:14.610 --> 01:03:16.909
April 25th was my birthday. We'll release it

01:03:16.909 --> 01:03:19.869
on all streaming services. It was produced by

01:03:19.869 --> 01:03:22.170
Will Turpin and Brian Collins out of Real to

01:03:22.170 --> 01:03:25.150
Real Studios. Will being the bass player for

01:03:25.150 --> 01:03:28.409
Collective Soul. And then Brian was a country

01:03:28.409 --> 01:03:31.929
artist that was on his way up during COVID, but

01:03:31.929 --> 01:03:34.710
he's very popular in Britain. Very popular in

01:03:34.710 --> 01:03:39.210
England. And so they did an amazing job. They

01:03:39.210 --> 01:03:43.250
gave me access to people I never thought would

01:03:43.250 --> 01:03:47.130
ever... We got Daniel De Los Reyes from the Zac

01:03:47.130 --> 01:03:49.070
Brown Band on percussion on one of the songs.

01:03:49.750 --> 01:03:52.809
We got Collective Souls' Jesse Triplett, their

01:03:52.809 --> 01:03:56.610
lead player, on one of our songs. Dude, we almost

01:03:56.610 --> 01:03:59.929
had... I hate when my mom does this where I'm

01:03:59.929 --> 01:04:01.510
like, I'm going to tell you, and then my mom's

01:04:01.510 --> 01:04:04.789
like an idiot and not remember. Lee Oscar. We

01:04:04.789 --> 01:04:07.250
almost had Lee Oscar on Harmonica, which he played

01:04:07.250 --> 01:04:09.949
with War. That's the dude that did Low Rider.

01:04:10.130 --> 01:04:12.090
So as a Mexican kid, yeah, that's fucking dope,

01:04:12.190 --> 01:04:15.570
man. Which I got to hang out with him and stuff,

01:04:15.610 --> 01:04:17.730
which was cool, and meet him, and it didn't work

01:04:17.730 --> 01:04:21.429
out. So we got this really awesome album. I got

01:04:21.429 --> 01:04:24.769
what we think is an amazing album cover, and

01:04:24.769 --> 01:04:27.579
it's just... We're shopping to labels and stuff

01:04:27.579 --> 01:04:30.480
right now, hoping to make something happen. But

01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:32.480
even if that doesn't happen, it is not going

01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:35.340
to stop us. We've got an investor now, so we're

01:04:35.340 --> 01:04:38.739
pushing forward. We're making that. I think 2026

01:04:38.739 --> 01:04:40.920
is going to be a very, very big year for us.

01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:45.059
Yeah, I mean, we'll have to just connect real

01:04:45.059 --> 01:04:49.000
quick again. We'll do a quick just follow -up.

01:04:49.539 --> 01:04:51.239
Once the album comes out. Yeah, the week the

01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:52.980
album comes out, we'll just do a quick follow

01:04:52.980 --> 01:04:56.610
-up. and and you can talk about it because i'd

01:04:56.610 --> 01:04:59.769
love to i know what we'll do we'll meet in vr

01:04:59.769 --> 01:05:02.409
chat and our advertisers can talk about the record

01:05:02.409 --> 01:05:05.329
for a few minutes girl though it's gonna be real

01:05:05.329 --> 01:05:10.250
awkward oh man i'll i'll try not to be aroused

01:05:10.250 --> 01:05:14.329
yeah yeah i'm gonna make it difficult um is there

01:05:14.329 --> 01:05:15.969
anything else you want to you want to is there

01:05:15.969 --> 01:05:17.210
anything else you want to talk about anything

01:05:17.210 --> 01:05:19.809
else you want to cover any You got shows. This

01:05:19.809 --> 01:05:22.570
will probably be out in early February. So if

01:05:22.570 --> 01:05:24.010
you have any shows that you want to mention.

01:05:24.610 --> 01:05:26.710
I can also mention them in the intro. I can.

01:05:26.789 --> 01:05:28.869
I can announce. So on April 10th, we're going

01:05:28.869 --> 01:05:30.750
to have our vinyl release party show. Since this

01:05:30.750 --> 01:05:32.070
is coming out in February, we'll announce it

01:05:32.070 --> 01:05:34.409
by then. We're doing it at Soul Kitchen, which

01:05:34.409 --> 01:05:36.590
is the big thing. Oh, yeah. I love Soul Kitchen.

01:05:36.789 --> 01:05:38.869
We're going to have the John Hall Band open for

01:05:38.869 --> 01:05:40.710
us, which his son is a drummer for the Red Clay

01:05:40.710 --> 01:05:43.849
Strays. So there might be a possibility that

01:05:43.849 --> 01:05:46.300
most of them are backing him up. which would

01:05:46.300 --> 01:05:49.119
be awesome. I can't confirm nor deny that. I

01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:52.559
know it's up in the air, so we'll see. And then

01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:54.320
we have a band from Atlanta called Hey Dreamer

01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:57.179
that's off of our fellow publishing company,

01:05:57.260 --> 01:05:59.860
Real People Music, our Real People Music family.

01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:02.940
They're an incredible, incredible band. I'll

01:06:02.940 --> 01:06:04.579
just have to be here for that. Yeah, yeah, of

01:06:04.579 --> 01:06:06.099
course. I'll just come back, yeah. Yeah, yeah,

01:06:06.099 --> 01:06:08.480
and so that'll be, we'll do that, and then we'll

01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:10.199
do like a tour through Mississippi and up in

01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:12.920
Missouri and stuff with the vinyls and go and

01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:16.039
release that. I'm going to get you in Tallahassee,

01:06:16.099 --> 01:06:18.079
man. It's going to happen. But, man, it's been

01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:21.440
so great to learn all this, catch up with you.

01:06:21.500 --> 01:06:23.960
Yeah, man. Thank you so much for being here,

01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:25.159
Red. Thanks for coming out here, brother. It's

01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:27.079
been a pleasure, Dave. I enjoyed every minute

01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:29.500
of it. Hey, I love you, brother. Thank you so

01:06:29.500 --> 01:06:31.900
much. Love you too, man. Love you too, man. Hope

01:06:31.900 --> 01:06:35.099
you all enjoyed my talk with Red Padilla. We

01:06:35.099 --> 01:06:37.980
had a great time. You're not going to want to

01:06:37.980 --> 01:06:40.159
miss out on Red and the Revelers. They are the

01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:42.699
next big thing. I promise. Just check them out.

01:06:43.549 --> 01:06:45.809
I've got a link to their first single from the

01:06:45.809 --> 01:06:47.909
new album in the description in this episode.

01:06:48.809 --> 01:06:51.070
I'll see you guys at a lot of events coming up

01:06:51.070 --> 01:06:53.809
in the next few weeks, hopefully. Next week,

01:06:53.889 --> 01:06:56.469
Heathens Homecoming, Drive -By Truckers, Athens,

01:06:56.670 --> 01:06:58.889
Georgia, 40 Watt. I'll be at all four shows.

01:06:59.889 --> 01:07:01.869
I'll be hanging out for a few days afterwards,

01:07:01.989 --> 01:07:03.829
interviewing some people. I'll be at the Nucci

01:07:03.829 --> 01:07:07.210
Space Auction. Tons of events with people that

01:07:07.210 --> 01:07:09.010
have been on this podcast next week. I'm super

01:07:09.010 --> 01:07:13.050
excited for it. February 27th. At the Blue Tavern,

01:07:13.130 --> 01:07:16.309
we got Danny Bedrosian. I'm sponsoring that event.

01:07:16.369 --> 01:07:19.230
This podcast is sponsoring that event. We're

01:07:19.230 --> 01:07:21.329
going to be covering that. I'll have an episode

01:07:21.329 --> 01:07:24.289
coming out soon, another episode with Danny,

01:07:24.409 --> 01:07:28.070
talking more about the history of Parliament

01:07:28.070 --> 01:07:31.349
Funkadelic's music and less about his history.

01:07:32.010 --> 01:07:35.230
And then, of course, I'll be at P -Funk Fest

01:07:35.230 --> 01:07:39.269
on April 11th, celebrating George Clinton's 85th

01:07:39.269 --> 01:07:42.369
birthday. I'll be bringing some exclusive interviews

01:07:42.369 --> 01:07:45.369
from that. It's also going to be the 20th anniversary

01:07:45.369 --> 01:07:49.190
of Danny Bedrosian's Secret Army with the rhythm

01:07:49.190 --> 01:07:51.809
section of Parliament Funkadelic. So I'm going

01:07:51.809 --> 01:07:53.250
to be talking to those guys. It's going to be

01:07:53.250 --> 01:07:55.309
a really, really fun event. Get your tickets

01:07:55.309 --> 01:07:57.610
now. I'll see y 'all in Athens.