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Welcome to Overeducated and Underemployed. I'm

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Fedden. We're here with part two of my interview

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with Cole Taylor, the owner and founder of Classic

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City Wrestling. And here we go. We're going to

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dive right back into it. Here's part two. We'll

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have to back up a little bit. Cool. I have no

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shortage of ridiculous ideas. So I've fantasized

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how my pro wrestling company would work in my

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head forever. And I felt like if it was an Athens

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brand, you'd really be missing the point if you

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don't have live music as a part of it. Absolutely,

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yeah. So I've been viewing that forever. The

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pandemic happened. That was a very magical time

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for me because I'm very high strung by nature.

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And just having that year and a half of just

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like doing nothing. I can relate, man. It was

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like one of those times where I felt like relief.

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Totally, totally. And a lot of people were struggling,

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but I was like, I feel great. Yeah, yeah. It

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allowed my mind to unwind and experience different

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things. And I got to learn a lot about myself

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and like things that interested me. It's very

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special. And I reached out. I was thinking, I

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should do something during this time that I would

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never, ever do. And so I reached out to a friend

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of mine who I'd met. I used to throw parties

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at the Flickr bar where I'd show old wrestling

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classics. Awesome. That's the beginning. Yeah,

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I guess I forgot to tell that part. I was at

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a point in my career where... Eventually, I ended

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up becoming tour manager, but as the assistant,

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I was getting a little bored. Maybe not on the

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road, but in my off time. I needed to come up

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with something cool. I started throwing these

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parties where I would show old wrestling shows

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on the big screen at the Flickr. What I found

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was that non -wrestling fans were who came to

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the shows. 60 to 80 people in that little room

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which is a lot in the flicker and like they would

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all cheer and go wild and sometimes throw things

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at the screen it gave me a vision of what an

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actual wrestling company could be I'm like oh

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these are my people yeah these are my people

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this is it but I kept that in my back pocket

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and then I eventually got promoted to tour manager

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and all of that spare time and boredom that was

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gone yeah that just played into a memory Flash

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forward back to the pandemic. I was working.

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I reached out to a friend who was a pro wrestler

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that I met through those parties. And I'm like,

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hey, this is crazy. I'm not even looking for

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money. If you find some dough to throw me, you

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can, but that's not what this is. I just, during

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this time, who knows how long it'll last, I'd

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love to be involved in pro wrestling. Just like

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it's something I've wanted to do my whole life.

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Let's do it. And he's like, sure. We got a show

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coming up. Why don't we just come hang out? And

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I hung out for a few times and they needed a

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ring announcer. I became the ring announcer.

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It was great. And I made a friend there. And

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I talked to him about what I thought an Athens

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pro wrestling company would look like. And just

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having fun. Not thinking twice about it. Just

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like bullshitting with your friend during the

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downtime. he who's my partner now he got the

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vision and had a very similar vision of his own

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and it was just like cool and it was like this

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like jokingly one day you and me we're gonna

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we're gonna do this we're gonna do this and i'm

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like shit man if you ever i'm like in all seriousness

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if you ever really want to do this just give

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me a call man i'll be in the pandemic The pandemic

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ended. I felt the need to spread my wings and

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fly. Is there a consensus on the date of the

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end of the pandemic yet? Oh, man. We started

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the tour. I felt the need to spread my wings

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and fly and work with other bands and whatnot.

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So I'd left Truckers and I was touring with different

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people. Some tours were phenomenal and some tours

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were the opposite of phenomenal. Yeah, yeah.

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I ended up going through like a really brutal

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breakup at the time. And so all that was happening

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and I got some dirt under my eye, but we're good.

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All that was happening and it sucked. Yeah. It

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was just like a lot happening. And my friend

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gave me a call. He's like, so about that. And

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I'm like, yeah. And we decided to call it Classic

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City Wrestling. And we had a project. And I never

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really meant to get into pro wrestling like it

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is now. I thought this would be just a fun little

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thing we did. And I went through, I tried to

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do Classic City Wrestling and The Road. And I

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had the most brutal tour ever. It was a three

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and a half month long tour. It was very... It

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was brutal. I don't want to speak ill of anyone,

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so that's just where we'll leave it. And everybody

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has good tours and bad tours, too. So that wouldn't

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even necessarily speak about the people necessarily.

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But I just needed a little time off. Around the

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same time, I got offered a desk job, and that

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didn't last forever either. I learned very quickly

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I'm not a desk job. Yeah, me neither. But very

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quickly, this Classic City Wrestling idea, it...

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it grew and became a thing in Athens significantly.

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It became more than... It became exactly what

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we expected and something we never could have

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dreamed of at the exact same time. It's almost

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like you had the vision for it, but you never

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necessarily thought it would actually come to

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fruition. Yeah, it happened by accident, but

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now I'm all in now. Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah.

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But yeah, it just came to be. And artistically,

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it's got a... We take this on the road. We do

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other cities, but it has to be that Athens vibe.

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When we go to other cities, we're rocking for

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them. We're not rocking for Athens, but we have

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to do it as who we are. It's a classic city,

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right? Yeah, exactly. It's the wrestling brand

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from the classic city. Yeah, you did that show

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in Nashville with Thelma and the Sleaze, right?

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Thelma and the Sleaze happened in Macon. Macon.

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Have y 'all done Nashville yet? We did a show

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with the Dexateens. Dexateens, okay. Awesome.

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That was amazing. What was the first one? The

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very first one. Let's go back to the first one.

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It was two days ago. And I know I met my girlfriend

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that I have now the day after. Oh, cool. Each

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anniversary helps me remember the anniversary.

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And we will leave it ambiguous as to which is

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reminding him of which. Exactly. But three years

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ago, we did a little show at a brewery on the

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outskirts of town. Which one? southern brewery

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okay and there was a pro wrestling company that

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used to run shows before and they stopped and

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we thought we might have a little built -in audience

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and let's try it and we had intentions of doing

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it long term but like it did really well and

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then i hopped on the road and i missed a few

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shows and came back but yeah yeah the The first

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show was special. Drive -by truckers were playing

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Homecoming. It was the time they played Homecoming

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in April. Yeah, right after it got delayed because

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there was a resurgence. Is that what it was?

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I think it was originally going to be in February,

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and then they pushed it to April that year. I

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remember having our show booked, and the truckers

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announcing they're having a show the same day.

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I'm like, you've got to be fucking kidding me.

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Oh, no. And I was amazed at how many drive -by

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trucker people actually showed up. Oh, yeah.

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After the third batch, they're like... All right,

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man, I had a blast. Who was the band for Classic

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City Jukebox? They're a local party band, and

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they did so many shows with us. They did the

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first year and a half's worth of shows with us.

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Oh, cool. That might be a stretch, but they did

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so many shows with us. And Matt Patton and I

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were talking, and I don't remember who jokingly

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said it first. One of us, like... I don't think

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it was a serious conversation in the beginning,

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but we joked about how fun it would be if the

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Dexatines played one. And then we just kept joking

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about it. And those jokes became, and then all

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of a sudden Elliot was in. Then when they played,

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everything changed and we started having other

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bands play. And that was my next question was

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like, was the intention originally just to have

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the one band? Did you always plan to have? A

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different band. We always wanted to have different

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bands, but we thought that this local, beloved,

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fun band would be a very good band to have. The

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branding was right, too. Yeah. Totally. I see

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what you did there. They were the perfect band

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to join us while we were finding our footing.

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Yeah, yeah. And that was the intention. And we

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didn't know exactly what we wanted. You learn

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what you want by accident sometimes. Yeah, I

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used to work with a lot of graphic artists, and

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they would get so frustrated because the clients

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would not know what they wanted until they saw

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it. Yeah. And that's fine and dandy until the

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graphic artist is doing 100 revisions, trying

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to figure it out. All of a sudden, three edits

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ago... That design wasn't so bad when you see

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the paycheck. So you hurt yourself pretty bad

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at one point. Did that injury have anything to

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do with Classic City Wrestling? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We had Taxi Cab vs. Are you familiar with Taxi

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Cab? I'll pretend that you're not familiar. I'm

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not, so this is perfect. So Taxi Cab vs., it's

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this really cool thing. They were, Jim Wilson

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is the front man of it. And they've got, there

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might be 16 people on stage. And it's like Afrobeat,

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but not, but like a who's who of Athens musicians.

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Oh, cool. Brad Morgan was playing drums for them.

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Nice. When I hurt myself. Like sometimes, it's

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the coolest thing in the world. Do they still

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do it? Yeah, yeah. It's one of those things that

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like, it only happens about twice a year. I'll

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have to come up for it. No, it's worth seeing.

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It's worth seeing. But I really, I really. I

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feel like we settled into a groove of how the

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show was, and I wanted to break script of what

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to expect. And you ended up breaking more than

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just the script. Exactly. I had Jim Wilson start

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the show in the ring with strippers surrounding

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him, and just really walk through the crowd while

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he was singing the intro song. And I had this

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vision of us both intersecting and walking around

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the arena together. Essentially, I was waiting

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for a cue to happen before I did my next thing.

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The band was going to do something and that would

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give me the cue and I was waiting. And I climbed

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on the subs because it's hard to explain what

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you're thinking when you're adrenaline possessed.

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I climbed on the subs and Jim climbed on the

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40 watt bar and Jim did this really cool jump

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off the bar. And I don't know if I was... Trying

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to be in it with him or if I was... I'm not sure

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what I was thinking. In my, like, 40 years old,

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thinking I'm punk rock and whatever, I jumped

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off the subs and tore my ACL, my meniscus, and

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broke my knee. And I didn't really feel anything

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because I had so much adrenaline. What defies

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my understanding of the injury, I was able to

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get to the ring. Which was, to be fair, only

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about three steps in front of me. But I got in

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the ring and then I just collapsed. And then

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I stood up again and I just collapsed. I'm like,

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oh, fuck. So I just hopped on one foot for the

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rest of this and did my little intro speech.

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And the rest of the show, I had two people just

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kind of... half -ass carrying so you finished

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the show yeah finished the show it's funny that's

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amazing i heard there was a nurse there so we

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got the nurse to come and my knee but in true

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athens form the nurse was just shit hammered

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okay we don't need this nurse here helping me

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this is not a good yeah yeah yeah man that reminds

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me of a couple of little stories that that i'll

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share with you totally So the first band I ever

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fell in love with was a band called The Marvelous

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Three. Butch Walker's band out of Atlanta. And

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honestly, man, the fan base, being as fanatic

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as they were, was part of what attracted me.

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People love Butch Walker. But I went and saw

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him play in Dothan, Alabama. I believe Starship

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played that day as well. Okay, that's cool. There

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was somebody else. But during the first song,

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he jumps off the monitor. And he tears his Achilles

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tendon. Shit. And they end up postponing the

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album, canceling the tour, all this shit. He

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was out of commission for months and months.

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But that motherfucker finished the song. Hell

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yeah. He didn't finish the show. But he finished

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the goddamn song. And then there was this other

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thing that made me think of was when I was like

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13 or 14. And I'm a tall guy, and I've always

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been pretty tall. I don't remember you any other

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way. And so even at 13 and 14, people thought

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I was an adult anyway. I've seen the Mighty Boss

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Tones in my hometown. And people were stage diving.

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So I thought that would be fun. I've never seen

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a crowd part as quickly as that day. And thank

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God that I wasn't an adult because I still had

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rubber bones. Yeah, that was... So at least there

00:14:34.389 --> 00:14:36.690
was like... I had the idea that somebody was

00:14:36.690 --> 00:14:40.940
going to catch me. Totally. So how did that affect

00:14:40.940 --> 00:14:44.639
your ability to run Classic City Wrestling for

00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:46.419
the next while, while you recovered from that?

00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.559
Oh, man. Was it a huge impact, or were you able

00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:53.700
to navigate around it? I don't know. Everything

00:14:53.700 --> 00:14:56.700
started piling up for sure. Just trying to figure

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out how to make ends meet, and I'm stuck on a

00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:04.720
sofa. There's certain, as I held my leg up, people

00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:10.100
listening can see me do that. In a way, the strangest

00:15:10.100 --> 00:15:12.320
way, don't get me wrong, if I could do it all

00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:14.419
over again, I wouldn't have jumped off the subs.

00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:18.840
Really? Oh, my God. But in a strange way, it

00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:21.299
was really helpful because it's like the pandemic.

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It allowed me to, despite those things that I

00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:26.419
just prefaced with, it allowed me to slow down.

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It allowed me to see things a little more clearly.

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I started painting rocks at the time, and, like,

00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.539
it opened up a... and i started painting rocks

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and reading comic books at the time and it really

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opened up a whole new creative way of looking

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at the world and i think for all of the hindrances

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i think it gave me something in return so i think

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that it helped and don't get me wrong like there

00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:56.220
was a period of time where i i did the show from

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a throne That I stuck on the stage. The throne

00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.059
being a chair that a union guy in New York City

00:16:03.059 --> 00:16:06.360
stole from the Terminal 5 and gave to me. I've

00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:08.919
been to that venue. I've seen the drive -by druggers

00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:11.340
there. Totally. Might have been that show. Probably.

00:16:11.500 --> 00:16:15.620
I don't know. It was New York in, what, 2011,

00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:19.580
2010? Yeah, that's about right. But I did some

00:16:19.580 --> 00:16:23.799
shows from a chair. I was on crutches for a few

00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:27.039
shows. We didn't have to cancel any. which was

00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:30.720
really good. We just made it work. I think what

00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:32.340
you said is really interesting because sometimes,

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first of all, sometimes people that have a lot

00:16:35.659 --> 00:16:38.919
of aspirations, really heavy drive, don't know

00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:41.039
when to set boundaries for themselves. I'm the

00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.159
worst. And that like physically placed a bunch

00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:47.100
of boundaries. Right. Life set the boundaries

00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:50.379
for me. And that also makes me think about even

00:16:50.379 --> 00:16:53.960
just going back to the Hollywood code of you

00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:57.750
couldn't show sex on screen. or all these things.

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But what they did, what the filmmakers did was,

00:17:00.450 --> 00:17:03.309
oh, we're going to make fireworks mean sex. We're

00:17:03.309 --> 00:17:05.769
going to do all these things that symbolize these

00:17:05.769 --> 00:17:08.210
things that we can't show. And some might argue

00:17:08.210 --> 00:17:12.329
that they created visualizations that exist in

00:17:12.329 --> 00:17:15.650
our culture now that never would have existed

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if they were allowed to just show whatever the

00:17:17.349 --> 00:17:18.789
fuck they wanted to show on screen. Totally,

00:17:18.789 --> 00:17:22.819
totally. So sometimes constraint. can really

00:17:22.819 --> 00:17:25.920
be a blessing. Absolutely. I believe in that

00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:28.299
hard. And I think it goes back to what you were

00:17:28.299 --> 00:17:31.400
saying earlier with the 80 -20 thing. Maybe you

00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:34.519
were just going too hard. Life was like, hey,

00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:38.180
motherfucker. I think about that a lot. I think

00:17:38.180 --> 00:17:42.480
about those people that, you know, maybe perhaps

00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.859
they lose their job. And the thing that they

00:17:45.859 --> 00:17:47.900
say to their employer when they lose their job

00:17:47.900 --> 00:17:51.140
is, oh man, I wish I'd walked away when... I

00:17:51.140 --> 00:17:53.099
wish I'd walked away when I was starting to have

00:17:53.099 --> 00:17:54.900
those thoughts. I wouldn't end up where I am

00:17:54.900 --> 00:17:58.059
now. And I often wonder that too. I'm like, I

00:17:58.059 --> 00:18:00.000
sure don't want to have that conversation with

00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:03.960
someone someday. But yeah, all the time. I truly

00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.400
believe that if you're, if there's something

00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:10.200
that needs to happen and you're not going to

00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:13.180
make those decisions for yourself, not always,

00:18:13.299 --> 00:18:15.539
but a lot of the times life will make those decisions

00:18:15.539 --> 00:18:19.390
for you. Yeah. And. I don't want to say this

00:18:19.390 --> 00:18:22.190
in absolute, but I think that there is a little

00:18:22.190 --> 00:18:25.269
bit of the universe giving me what I was supposed

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to have. That's fair. I'm sorry it hurt so much.

00:18:29.289 --> 00:18:33.150
Yeah, it sucked. So, I gotta say, as an observer

00:18:33.150 --> 00:18:35.930
of everything you've been doing for the last

00:18:35.930 --> 00:18:39.849
decade or more, it felt like Athens Ass Whooping

00:18:39.849 --> 00:18:44.289
was like the culmination of the kind of everything

00:18:44.289 --> 00:18:48.059
you've been doing. For the last decade. It was

00:18:48.059 --> 00:18:50.119
the moment of everything coming together. I just

00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:56.380
want to know, A, how did that even come to happen?

00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:01.059
B, did you ever... I'm sure it had to be a secret

00:19:01.059 --> 00:19:03.920
hope or whatever, but did you ever think it was

00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.700
going to happen? Was it a promise they made to

00:19:06.700 --> 00:19:09.819
you one day? I'm just really curious about how,

00:19:09.859 --> 00:19:12.160
because I feel like it was almost too perfect.

00:19:12.619 --> 00:19:15.440
It's like everything we could have wanted. It

00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:17.180
was one of the more special things that I've

00:19:17.180 --> 00:19:19.799
ever been a part of. It was really special to

00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:22.240
be there. It's good to hear. It's good to hear.

00:19:22.619 --> 00:19:25.700
Of course I always wanted that to happen. But

00:19:25.700 --> 00:19:29.720
I never thought it would happen. One time I texted

00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:33.339
Patterson, maybe a year and a half before the

00:19:33.339 --> 00:19:36.730
Athens Ass Weapon actually came about. sometime

00:19:36.730 --> 00:19:39.490
you and me, man, you're going to be the house

00:19:39.490 --> 00:19:41.450
band and I'm going to have my show and we're

00:19:41.450 --> 00:19:43.589
going to show the world something we've never

00:19:43.589 --> 00:19:47.069
seen. They've never seen. And Patterson didn't

00:19:47.069 --> 00:19:51.309
text back. They were testing the waters. Just

00:19:51.309 --> 00:19:55.190
left your ass alone. Yeah. I'm like, okay, point

00:19:55.190 --> 00:19:58.069
taken. And in our reality, he probably was just

00:19:58.069 --> 00:20:01.970
busy. It just didn't get, but I did a show in

00:20:01.970 --> 00:20:04.230
Nashville and Cooley came to the show, which

00:20:04.230 --> 00:20:07.299
was really cool. And... That was the one you

00:20:07.299 --> 00:20:09.480
did with Dead Confederate? That was Dexatines.

00:20:09.579 --> 00:20:12.099
Dexatines. Sorry, I'm... Dead Confederate was

00:20:12.099 --> 00:20:14.940
the other... That was... Okay. I'm just trying

00:20:14.940 --> 00:20:17.500
to, like, when I cross my wires, I need to untangle

00:20:17.500 --> 00:20:20.440
them for everybody else. 100%. 100%. Hardy Morrison's

00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:22.859
band at the time. Oh, yeah. But anyway... I love

00:20:22.859 --> 00:20:25.500
that guy. He's great. Totally. Cooley came to

00:20:25.500 --> 00:20:29.460
a show, and he texted me the next day, like,

00:20:29.579 --> 00:20:32.759
a classic. Hey, man, I had to split immediately

00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:35.039
after the show. Didn't get to say goodbye, but

00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:37.920
I want to tell you how much fun I had. And I

00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:40.740
texted him back, and I was like, yeah, man, I

00:20:40.740 --> 00:20:43.000
have this vision. There's an arena that opened

00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.339
recently. I'm like, I have this vision, man.

00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.799
If we could ever play a show at the arena, it'd

00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:51.940
be really cool if you guys played with us. And

00:20:51.940 --> 00:20:53.880
I'm like, okay, I guess it's just not going to

00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.140
happen. And I didn't really think too hard about

00:20:57.140 --> 00:21:02.059
it. And, like, I told Brad. I had a fantasy of

00:21:02.059 --> 00:21:04.759
it happening, and Brad was like, Brad had been

00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:06.579
to the show. He'd been to the show as a fan,

00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:08.960
and he played one of the shows with Taxi Cab

00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:13.839
vs. Yeah, yeah. And Brad got it, and Matt Patton

00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:15.539
got it, because Matt Patton had played a show

00:21:15.539 --> 00:21:19.259
with the Dexa teams. Like, I told both of them,

00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.180
like, yeah, it'd be really cool. Yeah, man, it

00:21:22.180 --> 00:21:24.579
would be cool. But that was where it ended. You

00:21:24.579 --> 00:21:27.700
can't over -push shit. No, certainly not, yeah.

00:21:28.569 --> 00:21:30.950
Especially when you've had relationships with

00:21:30.950 --> 00:21:34.170
people for so long. Totally. You never want to

00:21:34.170 --> 00:21:36.130
take advantage of those. Yeah, all you want to

00:21:36.130 --> 00:21:38.970
do is be cool. Yeah, and the fact that they'd

00:21:38.970 --> 00:21:41.970
even consider it is pretty amazing. One day,

00:21:42.069 --> 00:21:45.289
Brad texts me and says, hey, you should give

00:21:45.289 --> 00:21:48.029
Patterson a call. And then Matt Patton texts

00:21:48.029 --> 00:21:50.069
me and says, you should give Patterson a call.

00:21:50.369 --> 00:21:54.490
Then their manager, Christine, texts me and she's

00:21:54.490 --> 00:21:56.859
like, hey. can you send me a Classic City Wrestling

00:21:56.859 --> 00:21:58.880
hat? And I'm like, okay, so they've been talking

00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:01.380
about Classic City Wrestling to her. I'm like,

00:22:01.420 --> 00:22:04.259
I wonder. And still nothing amounted from it.

00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:07.559
I saw Patterson a couple days later. He was doing

00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:09.500
a show at the Georgia Theater. Like, nothing.

00:22:09.579 --> 00:22:14.619
I'm like, huh. And I just moved on. And eventually

00:22:14.619 --> 00:22:20.759
I got a call from their manager. And she just

00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:24.079
asked me about how realistic it would be to do

00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:27.299
it. I'm like, what are you talking about? Let's

00:22:27.299 --> 00:22:30.819
do it. And we started talking, and there's an

00:22:30.819 --> 00:22:33.480
extraordinary amount of logistics that we had

00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:35.900
to work out that I don't need to get into. Yeah,

00:22:35.900 --> 00:22:38.819
sure, sure. It got to the point where the logistics

00:22:38.819 --> 00:22:42.180
were worked out, and then the 40 watt gave us

00:22:42.180 --> 00:22:45.220
the date. It was this moment of, shit, this is

00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:47.660
for real. Holy shit. Did y 'all intentionally

00:22:47.660 --> 00:22:49.779
make it that close to homecoming, or did it just

00:22:49.779 --> 00:22:52.420
work out that way? That was definitely a thing

00:22:52.420 --> 00:22:54.849
that... They're already here. That was definitely

00:22:54.849 --> 00:22:57.309
a thing that I thought about. I'm like, would

00:22:57.309 --> 00:23:01.329
it be better to try to like find a gap in their

00:23:01.329 --> 00:23:05.029
schedule on tour and just have a show? I talked

00:23:05.029 --> 00:23:08.150
to Patterson and he made it clear that without

00:23:08.150 --> 00:23:10.690
saying that it would be cooler to do it around

00:23:10.690 --> 00:23:15.130
homecoming. Yeah, yeah. And I was not a believer

00:23:15.130 --> 00:23:17.690
that it would work out on a Monday. Especially,

00:23:17.829 --> 00:23:21.720
I was not a believer. If they're listening to

00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:23.700
this, I hope they're laughing at me for being

00:23:23.700 --> 00:23:27.740
an idiot here. But I was not a believer. I'm

00:23:27.740 --> 00:23:31.259
like, we've never done a show on a Monday. A

00:23:31.259 --> 00:23:33.380
lot of people are going to leave. I sent out

00:23:33.380 --> 00:23:37.160
some feelers to people in DBT camp. Hey, you

00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:39.619
think you'd want to see a show on Sunday? They're

00:23:39.619 --> 00:23:42.579
like, maybe I can stay, but I wouldn't bank on

00:23:42.579 --> 00:23:46.359
it. And eventually I just said yes because I

00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:49.480
really wanted to do it. Yeah, of course. Even

00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.579
if it didn't get the attendance that I'd want,

00:23:52.740 --> 00:23:56.960
it'd still be pretty awesome. By the way, how

00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.539
quickly did tickets sell out for? Sold out in

00:23:59.539 --> 00:24:01.579
two and a half hours to the minute. Yeah, we

00:24:01.579 --> 00:24:04.539
knew. And then I was worried. I'm like, shit,

00:24:04.579 --> 00:24:06.440
it's going to be nothing but DBT fans. Did our

00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.359
fans get tickets? Is the show going to translate?

00:24:11.059 --> 00:24:16.109
And I felt like both fan bases showed up. I love

00:24:16.109 --> 00:24:18.950
that you bring that up because I sat in front

00:24:18.950 --> 00:24:21.109
of a guy who was a little annoyed that he couldn't

00:24:21.109 --> 00:24:23.529
get front row seats. And he was like, man, is

00:24:23.529 --> 00:24:25.470
it just going to be all truckers fans? Are they

00:24:25.470 --> 00:24:28.230
here for the wrestling? I don't know. And this

00:24:28.230 --> 00:24:29.789
was probably about halfway through the night

00:24:29.789 --> 00:24:31.349
we were having this conversation. He was like,

00:24:31.430 --> 00:24:34.410
but y 'all are fucking awesome. Hell yeah. And

00:24:34.410 --> 00:24:37.519
he was like, y 'all are into it. Here for it.

00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:39.900
Yeah. We love that you're here kind of thing.

00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:43.059
So like I felt the classic city wrestling fans

00:24:43.059 --> 00:24:45.940
were really welcoming to the heathens. Totally.

00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:48.980
It was, that's like a cheesy thing to say, but

00:24:48.980 --> 00:24:52.039
it was like that night it was y 'all were all

00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:55.619
one fan base. Yeah. It was clear. I was worried

00:24:55.619 --> 00:24:59.500
that like the heathens wouldn't like know like

00:24:59.500 --> 00:25:02.019
the chance and how to do it. And I was proven

00:25:02.019 --> 00:25:05.059
wrong within 10 seconds. Man, we had fans. We

00:25:05.059 --> 00:25:06.900
had people like Sean. I'm going to give Sean

00:25:06.900 --> 00:25:11.019
a shout out. She was teaching people chants for

00:25:11.019 --> 00:25:14.019
Effie and everything. All week, all weekend.

00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.000
And I think the fact that we had the time together

00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.519
beforehand. All right, who are we rooting for?

00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:24.099
It was a really magical night, man. It's a weird

00:25:24.099 --> 00:25:27.079
thing. It's a weird thing. I'll remember it for

00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:30.160
the rest of my life, man. I feel it's a weird

00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.859
thing of knowing the significance of something.

00:25:33.529 --> 00:25:36.009
I don't want to come across as arrogant, but

00:25:36.009 --> 00:25:40.690
I like to think that in 20 years when people

00:25:40.690 --> 00:25:43.490
talk about great Athens moments, that'll be one

00:25:43.490 --> 00:25:46.289
of them. I would be shocked if it isn't. Yeah.

00:25:46.829 --> 00:25:50.390
Really, man. As somebody who's there, as just

00:25:50.390 --> 00:25:53.390
a fan, it was one of the coolest things that

00:25:53.390 --> 00:25:56.549
I had. I didn't really know what to expect. Honestly,

00:25:56.990 --> 00:25:59.250
I was just there because it was something unique,

00:25:59.390 --> 00:26:01.549
and you were doing it, and I just wanted to support

00:26:01.549 --> 00:26:05.240
what was going on. And I could stay. Not everybody

00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:10.099
could, but I could. And, dude, it blew me away.

00:26:10.539 --> 00:26:13.920
I appreciate that, man. And I think that the

00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:17.619
fact that it was during homecoming means that

00:26:17.619 --> 00:26:20.059
you got to have people from all over the world

00:26:20.059 --> 00:26:23.819
experience classic city wrestling at a time.

00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.180
And I felt similarly when I, because I did, on

00:26:26.180 --> 00:26:28.200
Sunday, I ended up doing some comedy at the Globe.

00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:30.920
And I had friends from all over the country show

00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:32.720
up for me. Exactly. Because they were all in

00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.079
town for a different reason. Already, we were

00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:36.940
all here together already. And so I feel like

00:26:36.940 --> 00:26:41.039
it worked because it was a Monday. Yeah. In a

00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.059
way. Yeah. Because it was like the people from

00:26:45.059 --> 00:26:46.720
all over the world, they weren't going to leave

00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:52.059
a day early if they could stay. Totally. But

00:26:52.059 --> 00:26:55.559
if you had done it an off date, the UK people

00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:58.319
wouldn't have been able to be there. The people

00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:00.180
that come from the West Coast and the Midwest,

00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.420
I just think it would have been a very different

00:27:04.420 --> 00:27:08.920
experience because of the fans there. Yeah. Because

00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.539
you're talking about how much we all became one

00:27:11.539 --> 00:27:14.299
fan base. I don't know if that would have happened

00:27:14.299 --> 00:27:18.220
any other time. Right. Who's to say? I just don't

00:27:18.220 --> 00:27:20.740
know that... I will say this. When I go see the

00:27:20.740 --> 00:27:25.140
truckers in any location other than Athens, it's

00:27:25.140 --> 00:27:28.279
very different. Yeah. And I know you know this

00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:31.779
because you've been with them on hundreds of

00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:34.740
shows, but it's very different. Homecoming is

00:27:34.740 --> 00:27:38.720
its own vibe. It is. No doubt. But I think part

00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:43.500
of that is you have the most diverse fan base

00:27:43.500 --> 00:27:47.079
in the sense that when you go see the drive -by

00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:50.660
truckers in Akron, Ohio, it's all people that

00:27:50.660 --> 00:27:54.279
live in and around Akron. They're all Ohioans.

00:27:54.910 --> 00:27:59.069
And you go see them in even Atlanta at the Tabernacle.

00:27:59.690 --> 00:28:02.230
It's mostly Georgians and people from around

00:28:02.230 --> 00:28:06.049
here. 100%. DC 930 Club. They have some of their

00:28:06.049 --> 00:28:09.109
most epic shows there, but it's the 930 Club.

00:28:09.190 --> 00:28:11.170
And the only time that I think it wasn't was

00:28:11.170 --> 00:28:14.109
like New Year's Eve that one year with Booker

00:28:14.109 --> 00:28:17.789
T. That was one of the best shows. In fact, I...

00:28:18.490 --> 00:28:20.630
I regularly say that's the best concert I've

00:28:20.630 --> 00:28:22.609
ever seen. I wore a Stetson that night because

00:28:22.609 --> 00:28:25.670
I wanted to look good for Booker T. And I met

00:28:25.670 --> 00:28:28.670
some people that I'm still friends with on that

00:28:28.670 --> 00:28:32.549
little weekend there. But I guess the thing that

00:28:32.549 --> 00:28:36.990
gets me is when it's in Athens, it's not Athens.

00:28:37.269 --> 00:28:39.450
There's Athens people here. Don't get me wrong.

00:28:39.490 --> 00:28:41.569
Half the people are from Athens probably. Right,

00:28:41.569 --> 00:28:44.349
but half the people are not. And so with that,

00:28:44.410 --> 00:28:48.359
you get this group of people that are... diverse

00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.579
in every way except for the fact that they love

00:28:51.579 --> 00:28:54.299
the drive -by truckers yeah yeah it works and

00:28:54.299 --> 00:28:56.480
there's yeah there's something really unique

00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.420
about that that i don't know that there's not

00:28:59.420 --> 00:29:02.900
a lot of bands whose fan bases can even relate

00:29:02.900 --> 00:29:07.220
to that for sure 100 and we're just really fucking

00:29:07.220 --> 00:29:10.440
special like lucky to be part of something so

00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:15.390
special i think about that often fans like I'm

00:29:15.390 --> 00:29:17.869
reminded like when Patterson talks about in The

00:29:17.869 --> 00:29:20.130
Secret to a Happy Ending, he talks about when

00:29:20.130 --> 00:29:21.950
he took home Led Zeppelin for the first time

00:29:21.950 --> 00:29:24.289
because the artwork looked cool. Yeah. And it's

00:29:24.289 --> 00:29:25.809
not because he heard it on the radio, but he

00:29:25.809 --> 00:29:27.809
took it home and it was fucking Led Zeppelin.

00:29:27.970 --> 00:29:30.970
Yeah. And he just lucked out and got into one

00:29:30.970 --> 00:29:33.190
of the greatest fucking bands ever. And that's

00:29:33.190 --> 00:29:35.589
how I feel. I got into Led Zeppelin before they

00:29:35.589 --> 00:29:37.849
were, before anybody knew who the fuck they were

00:29:37.849 --> 00:29:40.650
or like somebody that important. Yeah. And I

00:29:40.650 --> 00:29:43.369
think in 20 years, people will be talking about

00:29:43.369 --> 00:29:47.359
the truckers like that. And I think moments like

00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:51.859
Athens Ass Whoopin' are part of what symbolizes

00:29:51.859 --> 00:29:55.180
how much they care about their fans, how much

00:29:55.180 --> 00:29:56.500
they care about the people that they've worked

00:29:56.500 --> 00:29:59.559
with over the years, and also just how much they

00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.200
like having fun at what they do and just enjoy

00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:05.059
it. Because that's not something you do unless

00:30:05.059 --> 00:30:09.900
you want to have fun. Totally. Bands aren't up

00:30:09.900 --> 00:30:13.009
there playing classic city wrestling. with the

00:30:13.009 --> 00:30:15.029
attitude like they're in a swimming competition.

00:30:15.569 --> 00:30:20.269
It's a very... Like, bands do get up there. Bands

00:30:20.269 --> 00:30:24.210
do. Bands are usually very pumped to be a part

00:30:24.210 --> 00:30:26.630
of it. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, and, like, it's

00:30:26.630 --> 00:30:29.769
very much a thing. Like, a lot of times bands

00:30:29.769 --> 00:30:32.009
feel like it's, I don't want to say a milestone,

00:30:32.210 --> 00:30:34.529
but, like, one of those, like, special shows

00:30:34.529 --> 00:30:37.349
for them. And I think the truckers approach it

00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:39.470
as a special show. I think rightfully so. Yeah.

00:30:39.750 --> 00:30:43.940
I think just because... one thing might be more

00:30:43.940 --> 00:30:45.980
popular than the other doesn't mean that both

00:30:45.980 --> 00:30:49.140
aren't really special. And just because something

00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:51.880
is newer than something else and is still growing,

00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.259
I think we're at the beginning of classic city

00:30:55.259 --> 00:30:59.220
wrestling. Yeah. Even if we're not, nothing like

00:30:59.220 --> 00:31:01.599
this has ever happened here. Have you ever...

00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:04.599
This is the last thing I want to get at with

00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.039
you. Have you ever seen anybody do anything like

00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.220
this before? I feel like it's not a very novel

00:31:10.220 --> 00:31:14.220
concept. of having music and having wrestling

00:31:14.220 --> 00:31:18.359
at the same time. And there have been other,

00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.539
there have been other acts out there that do

00:31:22.539 --> 00:31:25.460
similar things. There's a company out of Richmond,

00:31:25.539 --> 00:31:29.539
Virginia that has music. Yours feels like it's

00:31:29.539 --> 00:31:32.380
really got like a punk rock attitude though.

00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.279
That's what we want. That's what we want. There's

00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:38.400
a company that does hip hop and wrestling. And

00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:42.640
I feel like ours has more of, I think it goes

00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.420
back to that thing I was talking about, like

00:31:44.420 --> 00:31:46.660
my conversation with Jay, that when you go out

00:31:46.660 --> 00:31:48.640
there, believe that you're the best in the world.

00:31:48.779 --> 00:31:52.839
And we do. We truly do. We believe that there's

00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.740
no one else, period, better at creating this

00:31:56.740 --> 00:31:59.660
atmosphere and doing this show than we are. And

00:31:59.660 --> 00:32:04.119
part of what makes Classic City Wrestling special

00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.180
to me is it's like the drive -by truckers concept

00:32:07.180 --> 00:32:11.769
or a fish concept where... It is totally about

00:32:11.769 --> 00:32:14.690
the music on stage, but it's also about the community.

00:32:14.809 --> 00:32:18.049
And we're all in this thing together, rallying

00:32:18.049 --> 00:32:20.069
behind this thing and creating something bigger

00:32:20.069 --> 00:32:23.089
than us. When I'm in the ring and the whole audience

00:32:23.089 --> 00:32:27.269
is chanting CCW to me, it's bigger than me. It's

00:32:27.269 --> 00:32:30.490
bigger than them. It's something that is happening

00:32:30.490 --> 00:32:33.950
in that moment that we're all in together, that

00:32:33.950 --> 00:32:36.470
we're creating, that nobody can take from us.

00:32:36.730 --> 00:32:40.140
And to me... You don't find that in wrestling

00:32:40.140 --> 00:32:44.140
too often. And I think that is what makes us

00:32:44.140 --> 00:32:47.039
special. And I don't know if I answered your

00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.900
question. No, I think you really did, man. And

00:32:50.900 --> 00:32:53.420
on that note, I want to thank you for being on

00:32:53.420 --> 00:32:55.920
the best podcast on the internet. Fucking A -rated.

00:32:56.259 --> 00:32:58.880
And where can we see Classic City Wrestling?

00:32:59.059 --> 00:33:01.119
I know you've got some stuff coming up in May.

00:33:01.380 --> 00:33:03.579
What's beyond? Tell us about that and beyond.

00:33:04.269 --> 00:33:07.150
It hasn't been announced yet, but I bet it will

00:33:07.150 --> 00:33:10.730
be by the time this comes out. And even if this

00:33:10.730 --> 00:33:12.730
comes out before it gets announced, I'm cool

00:33:12.730 --> 00:33:16.089
with it. We're doing a show in Asheville, North

00:33:16.089 --> 00:33:20.210
Carolina on June 28th at the Orange Peel. That

00:33:20.210 --> 00:33:23.789
place. We're doing a show at Basement East in

00:33:23.789 --> 00:33:28.849
Nashville, Tennessee on August the 2nd. And we're

00:33:28.849 --> 00:33:33.369
going to do a show in... Athens at the Fabulous

00:33:33.369 --> 00:33:37.190
40 Watt on May 17th. And where can people get

00:33:37.190 --> 00:33:40.049
tickets for those? They can get tickets at the

00:33:40.049 --> 00:33:42.369
website of each venue. I'm meeting with a web

00:33:42.369 --> 00:33:44.609
designer next week to help me get this going.

00:33:44.750 --> 00:33:47.210
And pretty soon I'll be at ClassicCityWrestling

00:33:47.210 --> 00:33:50.470
.com, baby. Cool, cool. And what socials are

00:33:50.470 --> 00:33:52.710
y 'all on that people can follow you on? You

00:33:52.710 --> 00:33:55.130
can follow us on Facebook. Instagram is where

00:33:55.130 --> 00:33:58.630
we're the most active. ClassicCityWrestling706.

00:33:58.849 --> 00:34:01.579
That's the Athens area code. All right. And I'll

00:34:01.579 --> 00:34:03.680
make sure to put all this information in the

00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:05.799
info for this episode as well. And if you send

00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.880
a message to Instagram, it goes to me. I'm who

00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.679
reads it. So I'll get back to you. All right.

00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:14.760
Thanks a lot for being here, Cole. Is there anything

00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.360
else that you want to, before we, is there anything

00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.820
else you feel like everybody needs to know? That's

00:34:20.820 --> 00:34:23.420
a good Star Wars shirt you got on, man. I'm just

00:34:23.420 --> 00:34:25.099
being true to yourself, man. And that's part

00:34:25.099 --> 00:34:27.820
of what this is. Hell yeah. Thank you so much

00:34:27.820 --> 00:34:31.480
for being here. It was a blast. So that was my

00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.320
interview with Cole Taylor. Make sure y 'all

00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.360
check out Classic City Wrestling. If you're not

00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:39.519
in a position to see one of their shows live,

00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:46.179
I have linked a video to their extravaganza with

00:34:46.179 --> 00:34:48.780
the drive -by truckers back in February. They

00:34:48.780 --> 00:34:51.840
videotaped it. You can see the whole thing, all

00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:57.000
three hours of glory. The YouTube video is linked

00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.420
in the description of this episode. Thanks for

00:35:00.420 --> 00:35:10.260
tuning in. My next solo episode... My next solo

00:35:10.260 --> 00:35:12.539
episode, I'm going to be talking about music

00:35:12.539 --> 00:35:16.440
-based video games. Make sure you tune in for

00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.260
that. Everything from Dance Dance Revolution

00:35:19.260 --> 00:35:26.900
to Rock Band and Guitar Hero to even Tetris Effect

00:35:26.900 --> 00:35:31.849
Connected. Check it out. And then next week on

00:35:31.849 --> 00:35:37.690
the episode, I have an interview with Levi Crumley,

00:35:37.769 --> 00:35:42.449
who is a pillar of the Athens George comedy scene.

00:35:42.889 --> 00:35:47.489
I traveled up to Athens and did several interviews

00:35:47.489 --> 00:35:50.389
out of the worst hotel room I have ever stayed

00:35:50.389 --> 00:35:53.090
in. So I really appreciate all these people coming

00:35:53.090 --> 00:35:57.050
to my dive hotel and doing these interviews while

00:35:57.050 --> 00:36:02.900
I was up there. Make sure you check out Classic

00:36:02.900 --> 00:36:10.719
City Wrestling. Make sure you check out Nicholas

00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.639
Malice and the Borealis and Classic City Wrestling

00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:18.780
at the 40 Watt on the 17th of May. And then on

00:36:18.780 --> 00:36:24.159
June 28th, Rhinestone Pickup Truck will be the

00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.119
musical guest at the Orange Peel in Asheville,

00:36:27.179 --> 00:36:31.250
North Carolina. Don't miss it, y 'all. It was

00:36:31.250 --> 00:36:36.250
one of the most fun nights I've ever had. Thanks

00:36:36.250 --> 00:36:38.849
again to Cole for sitting down with me. He was

00:36:38.849 --> 00:36:45.429
a pleasure to hang out with. And thanks again

00:36:45.429 --> 00:36:48.409
to y 'all for listening. If you want me to answer

00:36:48.409 --> 00:36:51.630
one of your questions, send me an email at feddenxr

00:36:51.630 --> 00:36:56.369
at gmail .com. That's F -E -D -D -U -N -X -R.

00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:00.639
at gmail .com. Check out my website, fedin .net.

00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:04.079
Thanks to Lee Baines for inspiring the title

00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:09.460
of this podcast. In the next few weeks, I've

00:37:09.460 --> 00:37:15.360
got Sloan Simpson from the Sloan Brothers, Jay

00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.440
Gonzalez from the Drive -By Truckers, and next

00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.780
week we've got Levi Crumley, so make sure you

00:37:20.780 --> 00:37:24.099
hit that subscribe button. Thanks again for tuning

00:37:24.099 --> 00:37:27.960
in. This has been overeducated and underemployed.
