WEBVTT 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:03.600 Hey, everyone. I'm super excited about my new 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:06.559 podcast called Overeducated and Underemployed. 00:00:06.740 --> 00:00:09.500 Shout out to Lee Baines for inspiring the title. 00:00:10.060 --> 00:00:14.259 My launch lineup includes J. Roddy Walston, Cole 00:00:14.259 --> 00:00:17.699 Taylor of Classic City Wrestling, comedian Levi 00:00:17.699 --> 00:00:20.120 Crumley, Sloane Simpson of the Sloane Brothers, 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.620 and Jay Gonzalez of the Drive -By Truckers. Here's 00:00:23.620 --> 00:00:25.160 a little preview of what's coming up in the first 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:29.989 five, six weeks. Neil Brennan describes it as 00:00:29.989 --> 00:00:32.009 putting yourself in a car accident every night. 00:00:32.530 --> 00:00:34.649 And I think that the price of being original 00:00:34.649 --> 00:00:37.170 is that you're going to bomb more than the people 00:00:37.170 --> 00:00:38.909 that are going to do the stuff that's right down 00:00:38.909 --> 00:00:42.289 the middle. I struggle communicating on so many 00:00:42.289 --> 00:00:45.329 levels with people that I think that's, it's 00:00:45.329 --> 00:00:48.729 just an easier way to communicate. But like anytime 00:00:48.729 --> 00:00:52.070 you see somebody going apeshit for something, 00:00:52.210 --> 00:00:54.490 obviously makes you stop and be like, what is 00:00:54.490 --> 00:00:57.109 so exciting about that? Once I joined the truckers 00:00:57.109 --> 00:00:59.590 and was doing that, it was harder to be in other 00:00:59.590 --> 00:01:02.950 bands. It was just like, this is so dangerous. 00:01:03.210 --> 00:01:06.329 Like we were going to get in trouble. Just the 00:01:06.329 --> 00:01:10.170 way it sounded. I do think a lot of artists like 00:01:10.170 --> 00:01:13.750 to have those jobs that are not super labor intensive. 00:01:13.969 --> 00:01:16.170 So you can always just think about what you're 00:01:16.170 --> 00:01:19.829 doing or write songs in your head. I think real 00:01:19.829 --> 00:01:24.159 music fans typically want to hear. The most organic 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:27.599 version of that song they can. Wrestling is a 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:29.859 larger -than -life presentation of something 00:01:29.859 --> 00:01:32.840 great and something phenomenal. And rock and 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:36.019 roll is that, too. It was like, this is to get 00:01:36.019 --> 00:01:38.000 some money to go over here and actually do the 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:41.379 thing that I do. The road destroys people. That's 00:01:41.379 --> 00:01:45.340 crazy. Some people, it's six months, and some 00:01:45.340 --> 00:01:48.000 people, it's ten years. A lot of people don't 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:49.540 get better until they're tired of their own shit. 00:01:50.099 --> 00:01:53.260 I've been rejected by a lot of my heroes. When 00:01:53.260 --> 00:01:56.219 I'm in the ring and the whole audience is chanting 00:01:56.219 --> 00:02:00.780 CCW to me, it's bigger than me. It's bigger than 00:02:00.780 --> 00:02:03.900 them. It's something that is happening in that 00:02:03.900 --> 00:02:07.340 moment that we're all in together, that we're 00:02:07.340 --> 00:02:10.699 creating, that nobody can take from us. I wanted 00:02:10.699 --> 00:02:14.240 to flow like Jerry Garcia and Trey from Phish, 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.360 but was not willing to put in the practice and 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:20.520 effort to pull that off. Three random people 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:22.659 I'd met on the internet picked me up and drove 00:02:22.659 --> 00:02:25.699 me there. I think the idea that someone gets 00:02:25.699 --> 00:02:28.400 up and goes like, I know what's funny. I'll say 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:32.680 it. And then people will laugh is like the wildest, 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:40.000 scariest thing. I jumped off the subs and tore 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.460 out, tore my ACL, my meniscus and broke my knee. 00:02:44.139 --> 00:02:47.439 I think most really good songwriters are pretty 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:50.520 fucking funny. When I find people I connect with, 00:02:50.580 --> 00:02:52.900 I'm just like, whatever it takes. I'll murder 00:02:52.900 --> 00:02:57.080 for you or whatever. The stuff that we always 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.599 gravitate back to is stuff we usually got into 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:02.939 when we were younger. I was breaking state records 00:03:02.939 --> 00:03:06.979 by age 10. By age 12, I was the number one swimmer 00:03:06.979 --> 00:03:09.819 in America. I write these songs that really matter 00:03:09.819 --> 00:03:12.180 to me. Hopefully they matter to you. And then 00:03:12.180 --> 00:03:14.740 I want to put on or be a part of a show where 00:03:14.740 --> 00:03:17.479 everyone's entranced and you have to shut up. 00:03:18.230 --> 00:03:23.069 great art grows with you. I don't think I ever 00:03:23.069 --> 00:03:28.270 particularly enjoy playing live. I used to joke 00:03:28.270 --> 00:03:30.310 that I was going to write down a list of all 00:03:30.310 --> 00:03:32.490 the reasons that I wasn't going to play live 00:03:32.490 --> 00:03:35.389 because there are so many of them. Older siblings 00:03:35.389 --> 00:03:39.949 are responsible for so many people just getting 00:03:39.949 --> 00:03:42.250 record collections, being turned on to all kinds 00:03:42.250 --> 00:03:44.849 of stuff that they never would have heard. I 00:03:44.849 --> 00:03:48.530 understand that Every one of my peers is full 00:03:48.530 --> 00:03:51.050 of shit. And if they weren't full of shit, it 00:03:51.050 --> 00:03:55.330 was an anomaly. I was like, dude, that is not 00:03:55.330 --> 00:03:58.490 what I want. Screw it. I'm going to sell everything. 00:03:59.210 --> 00:04:02.330 Throw things at the screen. It gave me a vision 00:04:02.330 --> 00:04:04.889 of what an actual wrestling company could be. 00:04:05.189 --> 00:04:08.169 We're just really lucky to be part of something 00:04:08.169 --> 00:04:10.650 so special. What if the world was completely 00:04:10.650 --> 00:04:14.169 wild and weird? I think it's really good that... 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.939 Any kid can just go on YouTube now and listen 00:04:17.939 --> 00:04:20.360 to anything and be into something from the other 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:23.860 side of the world. Something super obscure. When 00:04:23.860 --> 00:04:27.699 you get frustrated as an artist, it's not when 00:04:27.699 --> 00:04:29.899 you're not as good as other people. It's when 00:04:29.899 --> 00:04:33.120 you stop making progress. So I would actually 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.100 skip a little bit of school on a couple days. 00:04:35.220 --> 00:04:37.480 At high school, at the end of the day, not come 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:40.600 back from lunch and go off to the college jazz 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:43.079 band rehearsal. I think the worst thing a song 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:45.920 can be is forgettable. If I can get it stuck 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:47.759 in my head, that means maybe I can get it stuck 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:50.899 in somebody else's head. Constraint can be a 00:04:50.899 --> 00:04:54.759 really important thing for creativity. It feels 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:56.699 like I just woke up one day and didn't enjoy 00:04:56.699 --> 00:05:00.240 jam bands anymore. Every time I get on stage, 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.000 I want to have something new. Every time. We've 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.579 all had plenty of songs where we misheard the 00:05:06.579 --> 00:05:09.319 lyric for years. We don't use set lists and stuff, 00:05:09.379 --> 00:05:11.339 so there was a lot of weird shit about it. But 00:05:11.339 --> 00:05:14.660 in the end, it really, I think, it's safe to 00:05:14.660 --> 00:05:17.459 say, everyone really loved the experience. In 00:05:17.459 --> 00:05:21.579 1999, the only bands that would let you record 00:05:21.579 --> 00:05:28.540 their live shows were jam bands. By 2007, nobody 00:05:28.540 --> 00:05:31.379 gave a shit. I have to experience life, and then 00:05:31.379 --> 00:05:32.959 things are going to come to me. I can't really 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:34.740 sit down and force it like that with my stand 00:05:34.740 --> 00:05:37.810 -up. I started getting into bands, rock bands, 00:05:37.910 --> 00:05:41.389 more than sort of top 40 radio, like a lot of 00:05:41.389 --> 00:05:43.209 people do. I just remember thinking that was 00:05:43.209 --> 00:05:45.470 really interesting and being a little kid and 00:05:45.470 --> 00:05:47.350 wanting to do funny stuff like that. Not really 00:05:47.350 --> 00:05:49.089 knowing how, but like just having that desire 00:05:49.089 --> 00:05:52.189 to be silly and funny. I wrote a new song last 00:05:52.189 --> 00:05:55.430 night. All comedians are wannabe rock stars. 00:05:56.209 --> 00:05:58.689 I'm having 17 conversations in my head at the 00:05:58.689 --> 00:06:02.250 same time where I messed up last night on this 00:06:02.250 --> 00:06:05.370 part. Why is that guy over there? you know look 00:06:05.370 --> 00:06:08.089 like he's sniffing a fart like why is it this 00:06:08.089 --> 00:06:11.110 person dancing i love watching other people bomb 00:06:11.110 --> 00:06:14.009 because i'm like oh god like i just know the 00:06:14.009 --> 00:06:16.709 feeling so well i'm listening to music constantly 00:06:16.709 --> 00:06:20.230 sometimes it sucks being a comedian or a musician 00:06:20.230 --> 00:06:21.790 because it feels like you never really turn your 00:06:21.790 --> 00:06:23.790 brain off because you're always like scanning 00:06:23.790 --> 00:06:26.050 the world for meaning how do i interpret this 00:06:26.050 --> 00:06:29.589 into comedy or music you bring something to the 00:06:29.589 --> 00:06:32.189 sorority house and if it was like the wrong delivery 00:06:32.189 --> 00:06:34.910 you get screamed at but none of the teachers 00:06:34.910 --> 00:06:36.810 knew nirvana songs so everybody played nirvana 00:06:36.810 --> 00:06:39.250 songs and just said that they wrote them one 00:06:39.250 --> 00:06:41.509 kid smashed a brand new guitar and he was as 00:06:41.509 --> 00:06:43.290 soon as he did he's like my dad's gonna kill 00:06:43.290 --> 00:06:46.250 me and he like ran away for a week i have a vivid 00:06:46.250 --> 00:06:48.850 memory of being in bed thinking about the song 00:06:48.850 --> 00:06:52.430 and asking my mom singing the chorus to the song 00:06:52.430 --> 00:06:54.889 and asking her if it was a beatle song she didn't 00:06:54.889 --> 00:06:57.750 know i was doing from the start a lot of comedians 00:06:57.750 --> 00:07:00.089 are really damaged up people what's funny to 00:07:00.089 --> 00:07:03.540 them is sometimes really dark You know, if you 00:07:03.540 --> 00:07:05.240 have a bad drummer, then you have a bad band. 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:07.579 I think there was like a narcissism that every 00:07:07.579 --> 00:07:10.300 comedian has for sure. I always found laughter 00:07:10.300 --> 00:07:11.959 was the quickest way to get people's attention 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:16.879 and to really hold it. The more offensive a joke 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:20.279 is, the funnier it has to be. It's an equally 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:24.000 bad video of me, but it's at least not wearing 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:28.339 spandex. Finding those little wins is so key. 00:07:29.259 --> 00:07:32.060 The best podcast on the internet. Fucking A -right. 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:36.500 And I'm like, holy shit, this is where I belong.