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Welcome to the Gilt Trips podcast. I'm your host, Kendra Lockhart. As a goldsmith and

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gemologist, I'll be speaking 24 carat on all things jewelry, metals, and gems. Join

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me plus a few friends to demystify both materials and designs as your private jeweler. Let's

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tune in on these topics and get golden. There are many motivations to pretend versus be

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genuine. It saves the resources of money, handles scarcity or rarity, and an effort

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to attain or achieve elite markers of status or accomplishment. In the world of gold, forgery

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bars are becoming a crisis. In recent years, bars worth at least $50 million, stamped with

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Swiss refinery logos, but not actually produced by those facilities, have been identified by

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all four of Switzerland's leading gold refiners, as well as found in the vaults of JPMorgan

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Chase. The lab-grown diamond industry was $24 billion in 2022. While this is a real

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creation presenting itself as man-made, the complication of being passed off as natural

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is causing problems. In January of this year, the International Gemological Institute, or

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IGI, reported that a six carat lab-grown pear shape had been submitted with a fake GIA

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inscription, identifying itself as a natural diamond. Counterfeit timepieces are a multi-billion

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dollar industry as well, with shaky estimates indicating between 30 and 50 million fake

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watches entering the market every year. Rolex alone makes only 1 million. Imagine that ratio

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of authentic to inauthentic units. Materials, watches, and jewelry brands are facing their

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own dark markets, so education and recognition is becoming more important, as mistakes mean

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high costs. Is the desire for luxury expressed or engineered? How does it affect the real

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deal?

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Chapter time stamps are in the show notes.

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Sabri Subhi, an investor on Shark Tank and the creator of King Kong Marketing, made a

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list of how we have made the luxury craving. One, unlike self-purchases, the prospective

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client is assigned an advisor, as well as a buyer's tier. Two, the maker deliberately

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creates low stock or underproduces. That stimulates the supply-demand access. Urgency and desirability

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enter the consumer journey. Deny or delay availability? Even in some Apple stores, you can't just

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walk in and get the latest device. The company is playing to the top, not the bottom, of

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its users.

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Four, premium aesthetics and materials are used so that it objectively indicates high

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standards.

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Five, status signaling. Now we enter the element of precision skills and impeccable craftsmanship.

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This is not your ordinary item by metals or by talents.

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Six, building a lifestyle brand. The item is the result and the reason is your identity,

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community, and associations. And last, number seven, the waitlist effect. Value is perceived

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through a process of acquisition versus instant gratification. We see this in sales when we

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talk about being clerked versus sold in any goods or services. Luxury wants you to rise

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up through the ranks and see yourself as better than. There is a dopamine to new levels of

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achievement and unspoken community and a bit of pain for the outcome of pleasure around

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wanting something.

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This is the opposite of utilitarian. Utilitarian is a toothbrush. You curate your choice. You

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select your idea of the best tool for the job. It is self talk. This one is the cheapest.

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I like this color. I use the toothpaste of these guys or other forms of reasoning. It

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would be pretty funny if we advertise toothbrushes as are you someone with a 1% smile? Is your

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orthodontic alignment better than your neighbors and coworkers? Here's a 24 karat toothbrush.

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Only 100 are made every year.

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One of my career roles in the jewelry and watch industry was being a specialist, which

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is fancy for calling me an authenticator. Even as far back as when I first became a goldsmith,

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being able to identify genuine and valuable materials from those that were obviously not

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or were designed to deceive was a compulsory part of the job. Misidentifying a metal or

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a gem, not recognizing aftermarket watch components or falling for the roosts of imposter goods

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could hurt the money, the elements, the reputation and more often than not, the relationship.

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Today I am going to break this topic down into three areas. Materials, timepieces and

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branded jewelry. I will discuss the methodology for identification and share my best or worst

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stories in each category. Let's start with metals and gems. Regarding metals, all that

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glitters is not gold. It matters to have a low grade skepticism over enthusiastic naivete

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when you are first given an item to repair or buy or consign. There is a hustle of spotting

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the least attentive employee or be aligning to a new hire and weaponizing their unfamiliarity

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or lack of commitment to details. Back in the day, we would write up intake slips for

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repairs as gold tone chain. Why? Because if the claim check said 14 carat necklace and

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later it was found out to be fake or fashion or costume jewelry, it's a little too late

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according to what you said they gave you. So regarding methodology on gold, silver and

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platinum items, you're looking for markings such as a stamping of the caratage or metal

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purity. Checking for signs of plating, where a metal is just a superficial coating or finish

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on top. Do the visual colors match your usual and customary golds or sterling items? Is

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the finish luster or patina on the platinum what you've encountered or is it different?

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It takes some instincts as much as knowledge and exposure. Gram for gram, do the weights

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match? Is the item in question seeming lighter or heavier than you imagined for this piece?

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Once you're done using your eyes as your main instrument, it's normal to move on to

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external tools. Are you using a jeweler's loop to magnify any markings you could not

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see with your normal unenhanced vision? Now is the chance to find miniscule wear and

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tear that could reveal gold or silver plating instead of a solid casting. Many buyers who

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pass through flea markets or state sales prefer the magnet test. Iron, steel and nickel alloys

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will stick to a magnet even if gold plated. Nobody wants to quote take your word for

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it on a solid gold item because often a fool and his money could soon be parted over word

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of mouth deals. If you aren't walking around someone's yard or outside of your place of

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business, you may see an expert use the acid kit. There are a range of tinctures of acid

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plus what is called a testing stone. The item in question is rubbed on the stone much like

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sweeping a file across your fingernail to leave a trace of the material. The purity ratio

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of the acid needs to match the purity ratio of the metal. While this is quick and somewhat

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easy, it is not 100% accurate. Are you gauging the match accurately? Did you clean the stone

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or is old residue skewing your results? If you have the money and wish to invest in an

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analyzer, the XRF which stands for X-ray fluorescence as a tester is a more accurate way to go.

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It instantly gives the alloy composition even through plating, comparing the items metals

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to what gold and sterling are made out of and to what proportions is incredibly useful.

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A sterling item is not supposed to be mostly copper. Lastly, inspect the craftsmanship.

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Work done in fine metals versus fashion metals usually has superior execution. Sawing through

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gold is like a scalpel through paper. Sawing through nickel or copper feels like a box

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cutter through cardboard. Those lines will not be as clean. If you want to know more

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on metals, refer to the episode on those or alternative alloys. When it comes to gems,

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it is a similar approach. What do your eyes see? The color is off? Is it too sparkly?

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In terms of brilliance, fire or scintillation with light? Or does it seem unusually dull

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for a jewel? Regarding the wear and tear, is any damage symptomatic of certain gem varieties

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or types of synthetics and stimulants? You can probably imagine the consequences of

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imitations. Unlike metal, a small jewel can seem to be worth tens of thousands of dollars.

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So here are the devices that assist beyond our visual senses. For gems, I have a jeweler's

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loop. That is a mandatory standard. Next, a gem duo tester. This is a thermal wand that

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touches the surface facets and shows a range of materials it could be. For me, this is

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semi-diagnostic, not completely conclusive. So, I could get a suggestion of a stone as

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garnet or tourmaline since they both respond similarly. It cannot show me genuine vs. synthetic

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ruby, but it can show me ruby vs. glass. There are devices that assist with a gem's response

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to light refraction, polarity of light and spectrum of absorbed light. Those three require

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gemological training and mastery, where the above tools do not. Lastly, a top grade microscope

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with several magnifications and different light color options as well as overhead or back

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lit is most useful. I'll go further into this in an episode later this month. So let

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me share some of my best and worst moments on knockoff metals and gems. One client when

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I was a private jeweler asked me to repair a beautiful lighter case that seemed to be

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sterling with turquoise cabochons bezled onto the front of it. It was stamped with three

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words on the bottom. Mexico, silver, alpaca. Fortunately, I asked around if that meant

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a certain region or was referring to an alloy. Alpaca silver is made of copper, nickel and

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zinc. My solder would not have worked. I had never put this alloy under my torch and I

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would have been liable for replacing anything destroyed. Plus, contaminating parts of my

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studio. So I passed. I've had a fake stamping where the weight of the item was accurate to

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the designer's product line and the plating was very heavy. The marking of 925 for sterling

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passed my visual test and the weight check since copper and silver aren't terribly

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far apart regarding specific gravity. But it got busted with the XRF test when it came

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back over 68% copper. I went on vacation as a bench jeweler and gave my mentor a ring

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to size. I forgot to tell him it was a dark blue cubic zirconium, a demi stone, holding

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a place until we could have the real sapphire for the project. It exploded under the torch

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and he was terrified he would be out $1000 out of pocket. When I got back I said I don't

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need your two bucks. It was a fake stone. Lastly, a client was attempting to consign

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a designer emerald ring and we flagged the jewel as a hydrothermal emerald or lab grown.

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Her response to a request for paperwork was met with indignation. If she had purchased

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it recently at Neimanorcus, they would need to refund a non genuine gem. We did not hear

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back from her regarding proceeding. Finding replica or lookalike watches is a nuanced

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game. There are many brands who each have their identifiers. Fortunately, my industry

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has three levels of a fraudulent timepiece. The cheap fake, the deep fake and the franken

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watch. It should be noticed that passing off a dummy watch can be accidental. A poor choice

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of purchase on a trip, a gift from the grey market where items are not authenticated,

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or a potential individual scam all the way into a full fledged organized ring such as

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those found around the world. The basic methodology is straightforward. Start by identifying the

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materials. If this isn't gold when the brand only works in that, just stop. Are you finding

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a glass crystal versus sapphire crystal when that is not part of the watch houses product

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line? That can be determined with the duo tester for the nature of the material if you're

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uncomfortable with a water test or feeling for relative temperatures.

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Next, inspecting craftsmanship. Again, you can execute more precisely in better alloys

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than garbage ones. Compare the make and model to its original standards. Be sure to check

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functionality. Are the components operational or cosmetic? Does the bezel work? Is the spelling

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of words correct? Does the font match the true design? Let's assume it is legitimate.

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In the industry, you would be expected to find a current manufacturer's sales retail pricing

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MSRP, calculate it with factors like how quickly people decide to buy or comparable realized

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sales of either the item or the brand in your area and be knowledgeable or aware of overall

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watch values, demand for styles, and the ability to grade the condition of the item. As for

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stories, many companies are asked to confiscate or destroy fake watches. This happens more

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often when you send your watch to the original watch house for servicing or repair or reconditioning.

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Watchmakers may kindly say it's not real and return it to you. A few of my stories include

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a son who brought in his Rolex Submariner because it stopped running. This was his college graduation

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present. Unfortunately, it was a Franken watch. The outside was real, but the inside was gutted

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and replaced with gray market movement according to our watchmaker. The client was kind about

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it, admitting his dad wanted it at a poker game. That is where the real hustle seemed to happen.

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As for a deep fake, a gorgeous 18 carat gold men's Cartier came through and priced out at over

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$11,000 at a secondary market potential. However, none of the screws were the right size and the

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threads were not stripped. There were strange glue lines around the crystal, so this was a subtle

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hiccup in what seemed authentic. Lastly, a couple Breitlings came in from a consumer who had never

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taken a trip to the tropical islands. He offered up two models for sale. Unfortunately, they weighed

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as aluminum and not steel. And the dial said, Breitling, not Breitling. This is a cheap fake. Now,

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we arrive at the place of the big three in branded jewelry, Tiffany, Cartier, and Van

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Cleef. Fortunately, each design house has a consistent way of making its pieces. When you're a

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detective around the legitimacy, look to the company's methodology more than your own approaches.

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There is a certain pattern on these items that are reliable arrangements, especially in the order

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of company signature, its font, where you can find the placement, trademark detailing, and even

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intellectual property design elements. Let's use Cartier as an example, such as the love bracelet.

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I find the Cartier brand signature, its purity mark in European standards, the serial number,

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a size number, maker's marks or assay marks, and possibly a registered trademark. As far as

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mechanisms, the closures and azures or windows behind the gems are set to match a certain shape,

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caliber of worksmanship, and exclusive design element. These are guidelines to catch the fakes

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from the reel. As for my stories, I've made employees laugh at our fake versions, calling them

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Fardier, Fiffenie, and Van Cleef. I was given a Cartier rolling ring with the wrong font,

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and the metal was in American heritage versus European. It also seemed hand engraved instead of

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stamped. My Fiffenie piece could not spell the last name of the designer properly, and as for the

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Van Cleef Alhambra on expendent, the black material was plastic instead of an actual agate gem.

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In closing, I'd love to quote our former head of security at a timepiece showroom. He has a love

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for the storylines in our most well-known comic books. He said, quote, a hero has to win every

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time, a villain only wants, unquote. While I can't say that I've battered a thousand on busting the

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copycat items, but I will say I've helped out my own brand, my clients, and the companies I've worked

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for dodge a few bullets regarding this game. Thank you for listening and learning with me. I would

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love you to share this project with people finding rare beauty in today's world and throughout our

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times. Until the next episode, keep your own story sparkling.

