WEBVTT 00:00:03.219 --> 00:00:07.519 Hi, welcome to my podcast jewelry as your side 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:10.839 hustle with sugar gay is for now today's gonna 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.339 be fun It's not about jewelry because I have 00:00:13.339 --> 00:00:17.460 lots of times do shows with other entrepreneur 00:00:18.340 --> 00:00:20.760 teachers, et cetera, that are not in jewelry. 00:00:20.839 --> 00:00:24.300 But we do have jewelry on this topic. So it's 00:00:24.300 --> 00:00:26.539 going to be a lot of fun. So today we have Bieber. 00:00:27.179 --> 00:00:31.059 And she is a quilter extraordinaire that people 00:00:31.059 --> 00:00:36.520 follow her from all over. And she is in Oakland. 00:00:37.219 --> 00:00:40.320 I almost said Sacramento, but I'm like, I've 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:43.079 had a lot of California locations on my plate 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:46.020 today. Thank you, and your view is beautiful. 00:00:46.579 --> 00:00:49.259 So welcome so much and welcome. We're out of 00:00:49.259 --> 00:00:51.539 applause. We're so glad you're here. Okay, so 00:00:51.539 --> 00:00:56.020 let's just dive right in. Tell me about you. 00:00:56.259 --> 00:00:59.539 I'm really excited to learn. Well, thanks, Sugar. 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.780 This is great. So, yes, my name is Bea Byrne, 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:05.819 and you probably tell I'm not native to Oakland 00:01:05.819 --> 00:01:09.700 from the accent. I came over here from the UK 00:01:09.700 --> 00:01:12.780 about 10 years ago, and I've been living in the 00:01:12.780 --> 00:01:16.920 Bay ever since. And I am a teacher and a kind 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:22.099 of crafty entrepreneur who's working throughout 00:01:22.099 --> 00:01:24.780 the Bay Area. And one of the things I work with, 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:26.540 which I really wanted to talk about today, is 00:01:26.540 --> 00:01:31.099 UV resin. And I really want to evangelize about 00:01:31.099 --> 00:01:34.000 it and just share how useful it is for anyone 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.859 who makes jewelry or anything kind of small and 00:01:37.859 --> 00:01:40.280 relatively flat. It's a really wonderful medium 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.859 to work with. Do you remember the first time 00:01:42.859 --> 00:01:45.280 that you used jewelry resin or heard of it? I 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.000 do. I do, actually. Yeah, I used to live in Tokyo. 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.680 Oh wow! Yeah, so it was for a couple of years 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:55.299 before moving to the US and after the UK, so 00:01:55.299 --> 00:01:58.400 it was just sandwiched in there. And UV resin 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:01.659 was something I kept seeing in their dollar stores. 00:02:01.739 --> 00:02:04.140 You know, we have Daiso here in California, I 00:02:04.140 --> 00:02:06.379 don't know whether you have the same chain of 00:02:06.379 --> 00:02:08.539 dollar stores where you are, but Daiso is of 00:02:08.539 --> 00:02:12.080 course a Japanese company, and they have these 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:13.979 super stores that are dollar stores, which in 00:02:13.979 --> 00:02:15.960 itself is quite the experience to visit. But 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:19.080 I would see all these UV resin tubes and being 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:21.259 like a multi -crafter, I was always thinking, 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.039 what is this stuff? Like, what is it for? And 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:27.680 started looking for videos and so on and had 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:30.240 some fun with it then. But it wasn't until a 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.099 few years ago at a craftcation conference. Have 00:02:34.099 --> 00:02:36.780 you heard of craftcation? No, but I want to know 00:02:36.780 --> 00:02:39.319 already. It sounds like a vacation crafting. 00:02:39.689 --> 00:02:43.289 It is, it's like 50 % crafting, 50 % business 00:02:43.289 --> 00:02:46.949 for creative businesses and you can mix match. 00:02:47.110 --> 00:02:49.729 It's amazing, you should teach that. But anyway, 00:02:49.889 --> 00:02:53.330 so I was at Craftcation a few years ago now and 00:02:53.330 --> 00:02:55.469 they offered the UV resin class and I was kind 00:02:55.469 --> 00:02:58.629 of like, oh yeah, I remember this stuff. But 00:02:58.629 --> 00:03:00.270 of course there was a lot more equipment, there 00:03:00.270 --> 00:03:02.849 was a lot more instructions and that was where 00:03:02.849 --> 00:03:06.050 I kind of got started again. Fast forward a year 00:03:06.050 --> 00:03:08.310 and I'd been playing around with it a lot and 00:03:08.310 --> 00:03:10.349 decided that I wanted to start teaching this 00:03:10.349 --> 00:03:13.530 which coincided with being laid off from my big 00:03:13.530 --> 00:03:16.750 tech job a few years ago and deciding to start 00:03:16.750 --> 00:03:20.370 my own business. So UV Resin is now probably 00:03:20.370 --> 00:03:22.889 at least a quarter of what I do seems to involve 00:03:22.889 --> 00:03:26.780 UV Resin nowadays. I think it has so many applications. 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.580 I remember the first time that I heard about 00:03:29.580 --> 00:03:32.580 it and I bought a little tiny bottle. It was 00:03:32.580 --> 00:03:35.500 expensive. So this is like, it was another brand 00:03:35.500 --> 00:03:38.159 I won't mention, but they had a little brownish 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:41.879 bottle and I. I totally got it. I'm like, I get 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.340 this. It's just good for doming and you know, 00:03:44.460 --> 00:03:46.919 like if you had like some layers that you could 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:49.020 see through, like that was kind of the hiccup. 00:03:49.139 --> 00:03:51.300 I had to figure out like, oh, this is kind of 00:03:51.300 --> 00:03:53.680 tricky. If there's anything blocking, there's 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:56.680 no sun getting there. And then I had it sitting 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.840 near a window, not by a window, but near a window. 00:04:00.020 --> 00:04:03.020 And it turned solid and it was like, oh my God, 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:06.139 that was like $30. And then I like, started looking 00:04:06.139 --> 00:04:08.460 around and go well maybe somebody else has it 00:04:08.460 --> 00:04:11.400 and then now it's definitely part of my arsenal 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:14.879 especially for doming you know that's like you 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:16.800 know just to put a little layer that's going 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:19.620 to kind of dome up if you're not a resin person 00:04:19.620 --> 00:04:22.439 and it's going to add it's kind of like a glass 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.720 cabochon kind of like that round exactly even 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:28.720 flat it could be flat um you know just to kind 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:31.980 of give that last layer and here in the texas 00:04:31.980 --> 00:04:35.259 sun we can put it outside. I do have my little 00:04:35.259 --> 00:04:38.220 fingernail cure thing that I use. It's so janky 00:04:38.220 --> 00:04:41.899 now. Yeah, exactly. You get these little UV lamps. 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.360 You're better now. And they are exactly the same 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.759 as the nail lamps that you get in nail salons. 00:04:48.259 --> 00:04:49.920 But yeah, you can equally, you can cure it on 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:52.319 a windowsill, but it does mean that this is not 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.959 an outdoor activity or a kind of sitting indoors 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:58.040 on a sunny day. You'd need to put the blinds 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:00.379 down because just natural UV light will stop 00:05:00.379 --> 00:05:02.600 curing. Oh my gosh, yes, for sure. I mean, you 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:04.660 can't take it outside and then start doing it. 00:05:04.740 --> 00:05:07.399 It's going to be in the shadows. It'll start 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:09.600 curing as it's coming out of the thing and you'll 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:14.389 be like, oh, no, it does. And this is why it's 00:05:14.389 --> 00:05:17.149 so great. And I think as well, I imagine a lot 00:05:17.149 --> 00:05:20.089 of your listeners have used epoxy resin and UV, 00:05:20.490 --> 00:05:22.629 even if you're a dedicated epoxy user, UV is 00:05:22.629 --> 00:05:25.329 great for prototyping because it cures in like 00:05:25.329 --> 00:05:27.709 a minute. If you've got it under a lamp and a 00:05:27.709 --> 00:05:29.930 minute and you're ready. You could have finished 00:05:29.930 --> 00:05:32.629 piece in less than five minutes. And you can 00:05:32.629 --> 00:05:36.050 do it in a mold. Oh absolutely and in fact I've 00:05:36.050 --> 00:05:38.389 got, I had all these things handy just in case. 00:05:38.529 --> 00:05:40.350 Yes of course I want to see. I've got a whole 00:05:40.350 --> 00:05:42.990 selection here and really they come in all sorts 00:05:42.990 --> 00:05:45.089 of shapes like there's a cat. Look at that little 00:05:45.089 --> 00:05:47.430 pretty cat. And then there's more of an earrings 00:05:47.430 --> 00:05:52.189 one, there's a room mold. And then you can even 00:05:52.189 --> 00:05:56.110 do pens. as well which is extraordinary. Yes 00:05:56.110 --> 00:05:58.089 because the price has also gotten a lot less 00:05:58.089 --> 00:06:02.189 expensive because I buy it in like a black container 00:06:02.189 --> 00:06:04.129 now it's like they've gotten smarter and it just 00:06:04.129 --> 00:06:07.250 has a little tip on it and it's so good for like 00:06:07.250 --> 00:06:10.009 little stuff or like if you have like a little 00:06:10.009 --> 00:06:12.730 mess up or a little bubble and you can kind of 00:06:12.730 --> 00:06:16.069 like fill it in like it really is great and it 00:06:16.069 --> 00:06:19.649 doesn't take that 24 -hour cure time before it's 00:06:19.649 --> 00:06:23.379 really done so it's done in like minutes, depending 00:06:23.379 --> 00:06:25.920 on how thick your piece is and how strong your 00:06:26.250 --> 00:06:30.089 you absolutely and you also don't need to um 00:06:30.089 --> 00:06:32.810 have kind of like special ventilation or a mask 00:06:32.810 --> 00:06:35.029 or anything which of course you should use with 00:06:35.029 --> 00:06:37.569 epoxy although i know sometimes it's easier not 00:06:37.569 --> 00:06:40.230 to but um yeah you don't need to worry about 00:06:40.230 --> 00:06:42.589 the smell because the smell is less than nail 00:06:42.589 --> 00:06:46.149 polish yeah and you're just using a smallish 00:06:46.149 --> 00:06:47.829 amount i mean it looks like some of those molds 00:06:47.829 --> 00:06:50.529 are pretty big so again let's just talk about 00:06:50.529 --> 00:06:52.449 so if you were going to use a mold you're going 00:06:52.449 --> 00:06:55.329 to have it on a tray yes somewhere where you 00:06:55.329 --> 00:06:58.370 could move it maybe if you had to, but not not 00:06:58.370 --> 00:07:01.189 where there's any sun like direct sun coming 00:07:01.189 --> 00:07:04.410 in because any kind of a UV is going to start 00:07:04.410 --> 00:07:08.560 curing that pretty fast. Yeah, absolutely. and 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.139 yeah once you've once you've poured it and started 00:07:11.139 --> 00:07:13.899 it cooking you want to avoid moving it too much 00:07:13.899 --> 00:07:17.740 because it does it sets very differently from 00:07:17.740 --> 00:07:20.480 epoxy where epoxy is that chemical reaction between 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:23.899 the two parts and so it kind of sets all the 00:07:23.899 --> 00:07:27.259 way through at a steady rate whereas the UV resin 00:07:27.259 --> 00:07:30.040 is setting the bit that's most exposed to the 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.060 UV is setting first and so you can end up with 00:07:33.060 --> 00:07:35.740 a piece that's kind of cooked on top and most 00:07:35.740 --> 00:07:38.240 of the way through but it's still sticky on the 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:40.720 bottom so in fact one of the things you do once 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.220 you once you've filled up your piece and cooked 00:07:43.220 --> 00:07:45.379 it from the top is then you turn the whole thing 00:07:45.379 --> 00:07:49.120 upside down without demolding it. Exactly without 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.360 demolding it and that's why you want the see 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:53.740 -through silicone molds rather than the colored 00:07:53.740 --> 00:07:56.120 ones that you can use for things like baking 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:59.279 and cake decoration. And then I also use a lot 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:03.839 of like a open frame on the resin tape. Yes the 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:05.759 bezel molds is that right is that what they're 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:09.149 called? I'm sure you know This is just like metal 00:08:09.149 --> 00:08:12.110 frames in there. Absolutely in there. Right. 00:08:12.949 --> 00:08:16.149 Jewelry resin. Yeah. I you know, I had to tell 00:08:16.149 --> 00:08:19.649 you. So I've been doing this a really long time. 00:08:19.750 --> 00:08:22.310 And and number one, I love it that we need to 00:08:22.310 --> 00:08:25.529 talk about, you know, ventilation and safety 00:08:25.529 --> 00:08:27.910 things, because I don't think there's near enough 00:08:27.910 --> 00:08:31.870 discussion about. the effects of all of these 00:08:31.870 --> 00:08:34.470 chemicals because I'm in a studio and I have 00:08:34.470 --> 00:08:37.950 full windows and fans and I don't have like a 00:08:37.950 --> 00:08:40.309 circulatory fan that's going out like if you 00:08:40.309 --> 00:08:43.409 were a metal smith person that's really why I 00:08:43.409 --> 00:08:44.990 don't do metal smithing I'm not going to get 00:08:44.990 --> 00:08:47.809 into all that but yeah we do need to be careful 00:08:47.809 --> 00:08:50.610 of all these these things are you know kind of 00:08:50.610 --> 00:08:53.009 a you know they're a bit toxic we got to have 00:08:53.009 --> 00:08:55.409 some open windows or ventilation or a fan blow 00:08:55.409 --> 00:08:57.850 it away from you that's really an important thing 00:08:57.850 --> 00:09:02.299 this weekend I got a order it was some old somebody 00:09:02.299 --> 00:09:05.860 found some old pieces on fair and they were before 00:09:05.860 --> 00:09:08.639 covid so you know when i pulled them out even 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:11.580 though they had been packed away in the inventory 00:09:11.580 --> 00:09:14.879 you know in a darkened room there's no direct 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.000 light there was still a little of that amplification 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:21.480 a tiny bit of that yellowing just that happens 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:26.820 you know too bad that resin does have a bit of 00:09:26.820 --> 00:09:29.919 that yellowing happening over time like I don't 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:31.799 know how we can really stop that there was no 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:34.360 reason that these pieces had a hint of yellow 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:36.539 but I felt like horrible and there's no way I 00:09:36.539 --> 00:09:39.039 could remake them because I didn't have those 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.580 bits anymore so I added to the order a whole 00:09:43.580 --> 00:09:46.820 separate thing that I made and you know just 00:09:46.820 --> 00:09:48.980 really bumped up the order with a lot of freebies 00:09:48.980 --> 00:09:50.919 like she got a lot of stuff but that was fine 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.250 with me because It is kind of the trick, you 00:09:54.250 --> 00:09:56.629 know, we put in all this work and all this love 00:09:56.629 --> 00:09:59.710 for stuff and, you know, time goes by, you know, 00:09:59.830 --> 00:10:02.269 COVID, everything kind of stopped. And then these 00:10:02.269 --> 00:10:05.629 pieces just kind of languished on the online 00:10:05.629 --> 00:10:09.389 and didn't get bought. Have you ever had anything 00:10:09.389 --> 00:10:12.710 like that happen? Like I was so horrified. My 00:10:12.710 --> 00:10:15.230 husband couldn't see the difference, but we know. 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:18.960 you know yeah and i i always say to people no 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:20.860 one will ever look at these things as closely 00:10:20.860 --> 00:10:24.620 as you do because as the maker like you are inspecting 00:10:24.620 --> 00:10:27.840 and noticing everything it's our ego it's our 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:30.200 everything it's our polish like we presenting 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.779 ourselves in this work so they're absolutely 00:10:32.779 --> 00:10:37.450 so like Yeah, it's not something I've noticed 00:10:37.450 --> 00:10:40.429 with resin. The manufacturer says that it doesn't 00:10:40.429 --> 00:10:42.889 yellow, that it doesn't, that doesn't happen 00:10:42.889 --> 00:10:45.070 with the UV resin, but of course it hasn't really 00:10:45.070 --> 00:10:48.629 been around in kind of craft usage for long enough 00:10:48.629 --> 00:10:52.389 to verify that. What I can say is I made my necklace 00:10:52.389 --> 00:10:56.509 probably at least three years ago now, and it 00:10:56.509 --> 00:10:58.970 just kind of hangs up on a jewellery stand that 00:10:58.970 --> 00:11:03.149 I've got, and it's showing no signs of going 00:11:03.149 --> 00:11:06.850 yellow at all. So possibly the I'm not saying 00:11:06.850 --> 00:11:09.309 the manufacturers lie, of course, but possibly 00:11:09.309 --> 00:11:12.110 the manufacturers claim that these things don't 00:11:12.110 --> 00:11:16.250 yellow might be true Yeah, I'm I'm not kind of 00:11:16.250 --> 00:11:18.970 excited to see that so when I'm doing a piece 00:11:18.970 --> 00:11:22.639 for example, I use I use all kinds of chemicals 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:27.080 in my UVs in my tricks and you know the two -part 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:29.700 resin is in my tricks and I think the only thing 00:11:29.700 --> 00:11:32.460 that's tossed me from using UV resin even more 00:11:32.460 --> 00:11:37.559 often is so say for example if I had a metal 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:42.460 frame that was hollow and I'm going to put a 00:11:42.460 --> 00:11:46.409 charm in there and so it's going to be a layer 00:11:46.409 --> 00:11:50.470 of UV resin just a few drops just to keep that 00:11:50.470 --> 00:11:53.529 back in and kind of let it spread and then go 00:11:53.529 --> 00:11:57.169 cure it and then come back put my charm on and 00:11:57.169 --> 00:12:00.149 then do another layer on top because why because 00:12:00.149 --> 00:12:02.730 the UV isn't going to get underneath that charm. 00:12:03.169 --> 00:12:05.309 Yeah. How do you explain that to people when 00:12:05.309 --> 00:12:07.960 you're talking about layering? Because it might 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:09.980 be kind of hard for new people to understand. 00:12:10.059 --> 00:12:13.559 Yeah. Well, I don't often work with the open 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:15.539 charms, just because I tend to teach beginners. 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.419 And so, well, I'll leave that for their own exploration 00:12:18.419 --> 00:12:21.419 later on. So the way I always do it, because 00:12:21.419 --> 00:12:23.740 I'm generally always working with a silicon mold, 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.460 I'll tell someone to imagine that they've got 00:12:26.460 --> 00:12:29.559 a picture in a frame, and the frame has glass 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:33.490 in it. The picture is face down on the table 00:12:33.490 --> 00:12:36.429 so the first layer you want to add is the glass 00:12:36.429 --> 00:12:39.070 layer and that's basically going to be the front 00:12:39.070 --> 00:12:41.850 of your piece so you're always working front 00:12:41.850 --> 00:12:45.730 to back in the silicone moulds. It also means 00:12:45.730 --> 00:12:48.509 that because the moulds are flat you're going 00:12:48.509 --> 00:12:51.490 to end up with a nice flat front to your piece. 00:12:52.210 --> 00:12:54.610 and so I'll tell them put the glass layer in 00:12:54.610 --> 00:12:56.809 which is again just a few drops you know enough 00:12:56.809 --> 00:13:00.450 to cover the base and then put in whatever you 00:13:00.450 --> 00:13:02.909 want to be most visible so it might be a charm 00:13:02.909 --> 00:13:05.909 or a flower or or I've had all sorts of things 00:13:05.909 --> 00:13:11.350 I had a baby's umbilical cord which was extreme 00:13:11.350 --> 00:13:14.970 but there we go um it's forever preserved now 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.460 it is now, so put whatever you want to be most 00:13:18.460 --> 00:13:22.100 visible in and cook that and then put in whatever 00:13:22.100 --> 00:13:23.720 you want to be in the background whether it's 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:27.299 glitter or mica or just clear resin and and fill 00:13:27.299 --> 00:13:31.379 the mould with that. And then when you cook that, 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.019 everything will cook from the back. And then 00:13:34.019 --> 00:13:36.299 of course you're going to flip it over and cook 00:13:36.299 --> 00:13:38.259 it from the other side. So I don't know with 00:13:38.259 --> 00:13:42.320 your open frames, are you able to turn them upside 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:44.720 down? I don't know if they're thick enough to 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:48.279 - Yeah, no, because, well, I guess once the resin 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.100 is cured, you could take the tape off. Right. 00:13:51.779 --> 00:13:54.940 And then turn it over. and do that, but usually 00:13:54.940 --> 00:13:57.679 I just do that, take the tape off as the last 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:00.340 step and I haven't really thought about that 00:14:00.340 --> 00:14:02.679 before. Because I know that one of the things 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:05.159 that often happens is people forget to cook them 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:07.759 from the back and then when you take it out of 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.039 the mold you get a kind of rippling across the 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.139 tape and that just shows that it was still a 00:14:13.139 --> 00:14:16.159 little bit uncooked. And another great thing, 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:18.179 of course, is that you can't, or at least I've 00:14:18.179 --> 00:14:21.179 never managed to burn this stuff. So it gets 00:14:21.179 --> 00:14:24.860 hot, but not, I always say, not like McDonald's 00:14:24.860 --> 00:14:29.259 apple pie hot. It's not dangerous hot. And you 00:14:29.259 --> 00:14:31.519 can just keep cooking them, like alternating 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:34.840 sides under the UV lamp. I say cooking, but it's 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:38.080 just UV light. And you can keep doing that. If 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:39.960 you're unsure whether it's fully cooked or not, 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.440 just carry on alternating it for as long as you 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:44.710 like. Let's turn it out in the sun. Like, it's 00:14:44.710 --> 00:14:46.870 crazy how powerful this is, the most powerful 00:14:46.870 --> 00:14:50.529 tool there is. Absolutely or just ordinary daylight 00:14:50.529 --> 00:14:53.190 if you leave it on a window sill for a day then 00:14:53.190 --> 00:14:56.289 that should sort it out entirely and there are 00:14:56.289 --> 00:14:59.830 some limitations so like with the um one of the 00:14:59.830 --> 00:15:02.129 great things about the epoxy like I was saying 00:15:02.129 --> 00:15:04.450 earlier because of the way it cures consistently 00:15:04.450 --> 00:15:08.070 throughout you can make pretty large pieces and 00:15:08.070 --> 00:15:11.529 it's not going to distort or deform um and you 00:15:11.529 --> 00:15:13.970 can also um oh the other thing's just totally 00:15:13.970 --> 00:15:17.070 popped out my head but with UV you need the light 00:15:17.070 --> 00:15:20.789 to be able to penetrate into the piece and you 00:15:20.789 --> 00:15:22.909 also need to be aware of the shrinkage because 00:15:22.909 --> 00:15:25.990 with UV I think epoxy I can't remember what it 00:15:25.990 --> 00:15:27.950 is but it's like a fraction of a percent or something 00:15:27.950 --> 00:15:31.649 but with UV it's as much as five percent and 00:15:31.649 --> 00:15:33.350 so you can imagine if you're making something 00:15:33.350 --> 00:15:35.710 with multiple layers you really start to get 00:15:35.710 --> 00:15:38.370 a curvature after a while if you're adding trying 00:15:38.370 --> 00:15:40.990 to add a new layer on top of something that's 00:15:40.990 --> 00:15:43.110 already cooked and it's still going to shrink 00:15:43.110 --> 00:15:45.570 five percent you start getting a curve so you 00:15:45.570 --> 00:15:48.309 really need to keep it for just things that are 00:15:48.309 --> 00:15:51.450 fairly flat and where you're going to be able 00:15:51.450 --> 00:15:53.909 to get the UV consistently against throughout 00:15:53.909 --> 00:15:56.929 it. So like for a tabletop, unless you had a 00:15:56.929 --> 00:15:59.269 tabletop sized UV lamp, you would not want to 00:15:59.269 --> 00:16:01.669 do that. That's, that's definitely like take 00:16:01.669 --> 00:16:04.549 it inside and then outside. No, it's like the 00:16:04.549 --> 00:16:08.490 second the sun is hitting it is cooking. Yeah, 00:16:08.809 --> 00:16:12.809 yeah. I don't, I think that it's good to know. 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:17.480 both kinds of resin so that you could like put 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:21.000 the small bit of resin UV resin down then your 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.279 charm and then fill it in with the regular two 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:25.919 -part resin and then now it's going to be like 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.500 you don't have to do it like overnight and then 00:16:28.500 --> 00:16:31.340 overnight you can just do it like one night process 00:16:31.340 --> 00:16:34.299 and then you're done i kind of think that there's 00:16:34.299 --> 00:16:38.259 nothing i haven't done in resin like i i look 00:16:38.259 --> 00:16:41.279 around i'm like yeah i've done a lot of resin 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.480 i'm gonna probably you know i i go through a 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:49.580 lot of it you know i do because it's just like 00:16:49.580 --> 00:16:53.519 glass yeah and it's so useful and you can embed 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.159 i mean practically anything in it i'm just holding 00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:00.159 up random things here oh i love it like a little 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:05.420 pattern weight oh that is um alphabet beads oh 00:17:05.420 --> 00:17:09.259 yeah yeah you did that with uv resin that right 00:17:09.259 --> 00:17:13.970 yeah yeah I wouldn't think that it would do that 00:17:13.970 --> 00:17:17.049 great, but that's really great. And in fact, 00:17:17.069 --> 00:17:18.910 I've got another one on my wrist at the moment, 00:17:19.150 --> 00:17:22.990 which is a kind of pride cuff made with all the 00:17:22.990 --> 00:17:26.569 glitters. Because as long as it's thin, the UV 00:17:26.569 --> 00:17:29.369 will penetrate. And with something like this, 00:17:29.410 --> 00:17:31.890 of course, you build it up in layers as well. 00:17:32.609 --> 00:17:35.210 That's beautiful. The only thing is, of course, 00:17:35.289 --> 00:17:37.890 the bracelet molds all tend to be made in China. 00:17:39.289 --> 00:17:41.549 you know, anecdotally, people in China tend to 00:17:41.549 --> 00:17:44.069 be more petite, especially the women, and so 00:17:44.069 --> 00:17:46.430 the bracelets are all tiny. I did manage to get 00:17:46.430 --> 00:17:49.230 this on once and then half skinned myself trying 00:17:49.230 --> 00:17:55.299 to get it off again. I know it's crazy and of 00:17:55.299 --> 00:17:58.819 course you can add in glitter and mica powder 00:17:58.819 --> 00:18:03.640 as well or stickers you can put in. Yes pictures 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:08.559 translucent picture printed from the printer 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:13.000 on transparency. I love to use those. Absolutely 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:16.779 and you can with the mica makes it opaque so 00:18:16.779 --> 00:18:19.819 it looks more like a kind of enamel type texture 00:18:19.819 --> 00:18:22.990 but of course with the with the glitter or or 00:18:22.990 --> 00:18:25.289 just using it plain, you still end up with this 00:18:25.289 --> 00:18:29.769 translucent, so that you can get these really 00:18:29.769 --> 00:18:31.789 lovely things and a kind of almost like a stained 00:18:31.789 --> 00:18:34.230 glass effect with some of them. I think that's 00:18:34.230 --> 00:18:39.509 why we love resin. Like it has so many ways that, 00:18:39.630 --> 00:18:43.349 I mean, I have done, I'm looking around going, 00:18:43.549 --> 00:18:45.250 yeah, there's nothing around me that I made. 00:18:45.789 --> 00:18:49.730 Like, I don't know. Yeah, here's one, hold on. 00:18:54.370 --> 00:18:58.750 Here's one so this would be a typical like gay 00:18:58.750 --> 00:19:05.349 is for Pete I'll drop everything right here Opal 00:19:05.349 --> 00:19:10.170 either moonstones in there. Oh Totally like so 00:19:10.170 --> 00:19:13.170 this is probably done. Yeah, just right. This 00:19:13.170 --> 00:19:17.309 is just regular resin I This is this is what 00:19:17.309 --> 00:19:20.140 we're talking about open frame This has got the 00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:23.259 tape down. At first I was using just regular 00:19:23.259 --> 00:19:26.920 packing tape, but it has like, you know, the 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:29.039 packing tape that you have, the nice clear packing 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:31.700 tape, and it has like lovely kind of things when 00:19:31.700 --> 00:19:34.420 you pull it off. It does. It has a bit of a texture 00:19:34.420 --> 00:19:37.500 just from the adhesive. And then now they have 00:19:37.500 --> 00:19:40.059 a new kind of tape that's resin. And I noticed 00:19:40.059 --> 00:19:43.539 this weekend, again, yeah, that it kind of curls. 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:48.119 It's thicker. But if you don't trim it really 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:52.839 close to your project, the kind of the curl on 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.079 the edge could kind of lift up a, you know, it's 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:58.960 a tiny, it's a fractions of. That makes sense. 00:19:59.390 --> 00:20:01.730 I think, I mean, it comes in different thicknesses. 00:20:01.730 --> 00:20:03.869 I imagine the thicker stuff is probably less 00:20:03.869 --> 00:20:06.349 likely to curl, maybe, although I haven't used 00:20:06.349 --> 00:20:09.470 it very much. But this is silicon tape is basically 00:20:09.470 --> 00:20:12.670 what it is. And it's just got that adhesion on 00:20:12.670 --> 00:20:16.069 one side for the frame to stick to so that the 00:20:16.069 --> 00:20:20.410 resin doesn't run out. But yeah, this is also 00:20:20.410 --> 00:20:22.250 sold just on its own for all sorts of different 00:20:22.250 --> 00:20:27.450 things. I think, actually, it's a bizarre segue, 00:20:27.549 --> 00:20:31.059 but during COVID I was diagnosed with breast 00:20:31.059 --> 00:20:34.420 cancer totally out of the blue and of course 00:20:34.420 --> 00:20:37.319 had I well luckily I just had an lumpectomy nothing 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:39.720 more serious but had the scars from that and 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:42.660 I actually use silicone tape on the scars because 00:20:42.660 --> 00:20:46.819 it will reduce the amount of scarring and reduce 00:20:46.819 --> 00:20:49.640 the appearance of the scar as well. So strange, 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:53.680 but it was on all the Cancer Federation, you 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:56.059 know, cancer charity websites and the Kaiser 00:20:56.059 --> 00:20:59.180 website and so on, is to use the silicone tape 00:20:59.180 --> 00:21:01.859 and you get medical grade silicone tape. That's 00:21:01.859 --> 00:21:05.460 what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Because they used 00:21:05.460 --> 00:21:08.579 to have that silicone medical tape and it was 00:21:08.579 --> 00:21:12.380 impregnated with I'm gonna think of something 00:21:12.380 --> 00:21:14.579 there the wrong word I'm gonna not use it right 00:21:14.579 --> 00:21:18.039 because blah blah blah but that stuff is really 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:25.000 good is what I'm it had it like a healing property 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:28.000 in within it. So it really does. Yeah, I've seen 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.539 them with like aloe vera or something in them 00:21:30.539 --> 00:21:33.319 to kind of suit the skin at the same time. And 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.799 certainly, yeah, that was good during radiation 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:39.579 treatment. But yeah, it's just so funny how silicone 00:21:39.579 --> 00:21:44.099 pops up in different places. Because it flexes, 00:21:44.259 --> 00:21:47.559 I guess. Absolutely. And I guess it's relatively 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:51.180 hygienic and easy to use, easy to cut to shape 00:21:51.180 --> 00:21:55.440 just with scissors. So it has so many uses. Yeah, 00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:57.720 I'm still trying to come up with that word of 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:00.019 what it was. I'll think of it after we're done. 00:22:00.140 --> 00:22:03.059 And unfortunately, it'll be a lost cause. But 00:22:03.059 --> 00:22:06.339 I remember when my husband was a doctor and he 00:22:06.339 --> 00:22:09.619 was really sick. We saw that at a medical convention. 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:11.460 We're like, yeah, that's what we need right there. 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:17.259 Get us that. Lots of that. It was impregnated 00:22:17.259 --> 00:22:23.480 with collagen for healing and for closing those 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:26.950 wounds. Yes. Yeah. Seriously, like we just went 00:22:26.950 --> 00:22:30.589 into medical. We did. We went entirely. I'd forgotten 00:22:30.589 --> 00:22:32.869 about that until just now as well. So it just 00:22:32.869 --> 00:22:35.049 suddenly occurred to me. How long have you been 00:22:35.049 --> 00:22:37.509 doing all this teaching on this? It's really 00:22:37.509 --> 00:22:40.269 curious. I'm so impressed that you've got such 00:22:40.269 --> 00:22:44.720 a big following. Thank you, well the the UV resin 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.079 it's just within the last two and a half years 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:51.380 that I've been teaching this and it is it's so 00:22:51.380 --> 00:22:53.859 popular with people you know the classes continuously 00:22:53.859 --> 00:22:56.380 sell out and people are so excited at the end 00:22:56.380 --> 00:22:58.480 and want to buy their own supplies and so on 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:01.140 but teaching in general I've been doing for more 00:23:01.140 --> 00:23:03.680 than 20 years now so back when I was still living 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:07.579 back in the UK I was teaching knitting and crochet 00:23:07.579 --> 00:23:10.740 and sewing and embroidery and then in when I 00:23:10.740 --> 00:23:13.299 was living in Japan, at one point it was a very 00:23:13.299 --> 00:23:17.819 surreal experience. I was teaching Sashiko, the 00:23:17.819 --> 00:23:21.220 Japanese traditional embroidery method, to Japanese 00:23:21.220 --> 00:23:25.000 women. while living in Tokyo, and I just kind 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:26.700 of thought this is the wrong way around, but 00:23:26.700 --> 00:23:28.779 it's okay, we're all going with it, it's like 00:23:28.779 --> 00:23:32.400 modern life. So yeah, so I've kind of taught 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:34.880 all over the place, all different things. How 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.660 do people find your classes? I think that that's 00:23:37.660 --> 00:23:39.720 like something we really need to discuss so that 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:42.849 people that are listening. can find you and find 00:23:42.849 --> 00:23:45.970 how do they how do they join with you? Oh, thank 00:23:45.970 --> 00:23:49.109 you. Yes. Well, I am just about to put a number 00:23:49.109 --> 00:23:52.089 of classes online, in fact, so that everyone 00:23:52.089 --> 00:23:54.230 will be able to access them. So those will be 00:23:54.230 --> 00:23:59.369 at bburn .com. But the in -person classes, I've 00:23:59.369 --> 00:24:02.349 been teaching in Oakland. And when I organize 00:24:02.349 --> 00:24:06.049 my own classes, I tend to use Eventbrite because 00:24:06.049 --> 00:24:08.990 of the discoverability of the classes, because 00:24:08.990 --> 00:24:11.240 otherwise you can need to spend a lot of money 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.160 on marketing. And I will sometimes market them 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:16.940 as well using meta ads on Facebook or Instagram. 00:24:17.500 --> 00:24:20.819 But then I also teach out of workshop in San 00:24:20.819 --> 00:24:23.220 Francisco. There's a location called workshop. 00:24:23.420 --> 00:24:28.299 It's workshop sf .org is the website. And I'll 00:24:28.299 --> 00:24:31.019 teach out there at least once a week. The UV 00:24:31.019 --> 00:24:34.500 resin is usually about every two weeks. And then 00:24:34.500 --> 00:24:38.220 I also teach Shibori, which is traditional Japanese 00:24:38.220 --> 00:24:41.420 indigo dyeing, natural bundle dyeing, and then 00:24:41.420 --> 00:24:45.059 also DIY skincare as well, using all natural 00:24:45.059 --> 00:24:48.940 ingredients and aromatherapy. So there's a lot 00:24:48.940 --> 00:24:51.759 of teaching going on. And then, of course, I 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.799 also just taught at Craftcation that I just mentioned, 00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:57.619 and I'll teach at other events around the country 00:24:57.619 --> 00:25:00.089 during the rest of the year as well. So it's 00:25:00.089 --> 00:25:02.410 all, your schedules are all on your website. 00:25:02.569 --> 00:25:05.150 Do you have Instagram? Like let's talk about 00:25:05.150 --> 00:25:08.849 your social media. I do, absolutely. So my website 00:25:08.849 --> 00:25:13.150 is bburn .com and then my Instagram, my Facebook 00:25:13.150 --> 00:25:16.950 and my very new and not very much used TikTok 00:25:16.950 --> 00:25:22.150 is at bburnartist. Unfortunately, Bburn had somewhere 00:25:22.150 --> 00:25:24.609 else had got in there first. So this is Bburn 00:25:24.609 --> 00:25:27.650 Artist, all one word. So we're going to put all 00:25:27.650 --> 00:25:29.910 of this will all be linked in the description. 00:25:30.109 --> 00:25:32.450 So anybody that's listening, you can find her 00:25:32.450 --> 00:25:35.109 spelling because it has an A in it. It's B -E 00:25:35.109 --> 00:25:38.769 -A. That's right. And then a little bit like 00:25:38.769 --> 00:25:41.190 a B, but it's got that A. Yeah. That's it. And 00:25:41.190 --> 00:25:47.990 then yeah. B -Y -R -N -E. Yeah. So it's a little 00:25:47.990 --> 00:25:51.619 tricky in the spelling. I bet if they just googled 00:25:51.619 --> 00:25:53.740 Bee Burn regular spelling, something would come 00:25:53.740 --> 00:25:56.079 up with your name in it. I hope so. I should 00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:58.819 check that. Oh, you should. It's a traditional 00:25:58.819 --> 00:26:02.279 Irish surname, so it's very common in Ireland. 00:26:02.619 --> 00:26:04.339 Ireland and Northern Ireland are the only places 00:26:04.339 --> 00:26:06.099 I've ever traveled where I haven't had to spell 00:26:06.099 --> 00:26:09.079 it for someone, like checking in at a hotel or 00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:14.740 something. That's so cute. Yeah, so where do 00:26:14.740 --> 00:26:18.099 you find most of your new customers? How do they 00:26:18.099 --> 00:26:22.259 find you? I think a lot of it is word of mouth. 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.859 I've just had a student approach me, who I taught 00:26:26.859 --> 00:26:30.079 in a previous workshop earlier this year, who's 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.579 asked me to do a series of workshops for a foster 00:26:33.579 --> 00:26:37.420 youth charity that she works for. And the similar 00:26:37.420 --> 00:26:41.059 thing happened last year. I did a series of workshops 00:26:41.059 --> 00:26:45.740 for a library, well, several libraries locally. 00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:49.039 And I'm doing them again this year in Berlin. 00:26:49.210 --> 00:26:52.089 Berlin game and San Francisco, I'm doing like 00:26:52.089 --> 00:26:54.589 eight sessions for one and 12 sessions for another. 00:26:54.950 --> 00:26:57.430 So it's it's often from people having been students 00:26:57.430 --> 00:26:59.369 and word of mouth. And then of course, there 00:26:59.369 --> 00:27:02.529 is Instagram as well. And it's always amazing 00:27:02.529 --> 00:27:04.630 to have people come into wherever I'm teaching 00:27:04.630 --> 00:27:06.609 is how I know you from Instagram makes me feel 00:27:06.609 --> 00:27:11.410 like a proper celebrity. And then, yeah, also, 00:27:11.430 --> 00:27:14.990 sometimes I will will use advertising to boost 00:27:14.990 --> 00:27:19.089 events as well. But yeah, knowing that people 00:27:19.089 --> 00:27:21.970 have enjoyed being with you previously and that 00:27:21.970 --> 00:27:24.349 they want to spend more time with you to do another 00:27:24.349 --> 00:27:27.849 craft is it's just lovely you know it's a real 00:27:27.849 --> 00:27:29.829 not only is it an ego boost but it's kind of 00:27:29.829 --> 00:27:33.150 a validation of your teaching methods um and 00:27:33.150 --> 00:27:36.549 how you made them feel during that workshop i 00:27:36.549 --> 00:27:39.390 had 50 people attend my workshop at the library 00:27:39.390 --> 00:27:42.730 this weekend we did oh wow making for mother's 00:27:42.730 --> 00:27:46.309 day so it was a big hit but that's the second 00:27:46.309 --> 00:27:49.099 time i've done it there and it was uh because 00:27:49.099 --> 00:27:52.460 it's free to the public so you know i'm just 00:27:52.460 --> 00:27:54.720 kind of doing it as a give them back kind of 00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.180 a thing but i'm with you on you know just get 00:27:57.180 --> 00:27:59.420 it out there just get people like learning and 00:27:59.420 --> 00:28:02.759 having a chance to create like i think that that 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:05.099 those are hard opportunities for people that 00:28:05.099 --> 00:28:07.619 you know life is hard everybody works a lot and 00:28:07.619 --> 00:28:09.380 they're you know doing all that and dragging 00:28:09.380 --> 00:28:12.680 your kids around here and there Yeah, and some 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.299 people don't want to have to pay for a whole 00:28:15.299 --> 00:28:19.359 gallon of something and have all that at home. 00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.819 And some people don't want the mess. I mean, 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:25.440 especially when I mentioned glitter. There's 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.359 actually venues now have glitter policies because 00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.599 the hotel I was teaching in a few weeks ago has 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.460 a no glitter policy. And so there's ways around 00:28:34.460 --> 00:28:36.900 it because I can premix the glitter into the 00:28:36.900 --> 00:28:39.299 resin and people can use it that way so there's 00:28:39.299 --> 00:28:43.309 no loose glitter. But people, yeah, my sister 00:28:43.309 --> 00:28:45.569 was horrified that I brought glitter into her 00:28:45.569 --> 00:28:47.789 house when I did one of these UV resin sessions 00:28:47.789 --> 00:28:51.170 with her kids. And she was freaking out much 00:28:51.170 --> 00:28:52.890 more about that than the idea of there being 00:28:52.890 --> 00:28:55.309 resin that would set with UV light or anything 00:28:55.309 --> 00:28:57.049 like that. It was the glitter she was worried 00:28:57.049 --> 00:29:00.650 about. So not having that mess in your home can 00:29:00.650 --> 00:29:03.460 be really... a great thing, a great reason for 00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:05.900 people to go to workshops outside. Well, like 00:29:05.900 --> 00:29:08.640 you said, I mean, it is I do know I vacuumed 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.319 this weekend or yesterday and I thought, oh, 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:12.960 there's a little piece of glitter. How long is 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.039 that embedded in some carpet? I'm like, I've 00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:17.839 got to get that out because that's been a while. 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.880 But yeah, it is what it is. You know, we love 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.460 glitter. I'm actually going to be writing a whole 00:29:23.460 --> 00:29:28.599 book about the human. History through sparkle 00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:32.220 and you know it goes way back like it's from 00:29:32.220 --> 00:29:35.640 you know from the beginning of man because they 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:37.819 could see sparkle on the rise and that meant 00:29:37.819 --> 00:29:41.990 there was water. So is in our DNA to like sparkle 00:29:41.990 --> 00:29:44.869 for sure. I hope to turn that into a Ted talk. 00:29:45.369 --> 00:29:47.349 It's really. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. Why 00:29:47.349 --> 00:29:49.529 not? That sounds fantastic. After this, you and 00:29:49.529 --> 00:29:51.750 I are going to be friends because the crossover 00:29:51.750 --> 00:29:55.289 is real. Absolutely. I definitely would love 00:29:55.289 --> 00:29:58.150 to do something with you because that's the fun 00:29:58.150 --> 00:30:00.289 of getting to meet us. And you are my friend 00:30:00.289 --> 00:30:03.730 forever. I think I met you through the craft 00:30:03.730 --> 00:30:06.890 industry alliance. That's right. Yeah. We were 00:30:06.890 --> 00:30:08.990 at one of their meetings. Yeah. I know that you're 00:30:08.990 --> 00:30:11.150 really big into the quilting, but that'll be 00:30:11.150 --> 00:30:12.609 another show that we'll have, because we got 00:30:12.609 --> 00:30:15.029 to wrap this up in like the next minute or two. 00:30:15.529 --> 00:30:17.230 But is there anything else that you would like 00:30:17.230 --> 00:30:21.250 to say to everybody to come join you and come 00:30:21.250 --> 00:30:24.140 meet you? I would, I would say, you know, if 00:30:24.140 --> 00:30:26.819 you don't want to go big, and this is a bit of 00:30:26.819 --> 00:30:29.720 a plug, you can, of course, get starter kits 00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:33.019 that come with everything you need, molds, gloves, 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.960 lamps, and so on. It's not expensive, and it's 00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.240 just a great way to get started. And if you love 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.019 it, which I'm sure you will, then you can buy, 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.200 you know, the big jugs full of resin and so on 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.559 and start increasing your mold collection. And 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.910 those are available online on your website. These 00:30:49.910 --> 00:30:52.009 are, yes, I've got them on my website. I have 00:30:52.009 --> 00:30:54.930 a store on my website. So the starter kits are 00:30:54.930 --> 00:30:57.650 all there along with various random quilting 00:30:57.650 --> 00:31:00.829 things. I call it my curiosity shop because I've 00:31:00.829 --> 00:31:03.269 come across things that I love and just have 00:31:03.269 --> 00:31:06.000 like three of, and then they're gone. Love it. 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.559 I love it. That is so clever. You are so much 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.119 fun I really wish this could go on for hours 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.599 because you and I we could like solve a few problems 00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:20.299 of the world I Really appreciate you and thank 00:31:20.299 --> 00:31:23.069 you for your time everybody Read the description, 00:31:23.390 --> 00:31:25.569 listen to more. There's lots more podcasts out 00:31:25.569 --> 00:31:28.390 there, but it's been a great 45 minutes to spend 00:31:28.390 --> 00:31:32.410 with you today. Bea Burns, she is in California 00:31:32.410 --> 00:31:35.250 and she is a great teacher of kind of all things 00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:36.970 crafting. I'm just going to throw that out there 00:31:36.970 --> 00:31:41.759 from quilting to UV resin. Thank you, thank you, 00:31:41.779 --> 00:31:44.420 thank you for being on my podcast. This is Sugar 00:31:44.420 --> 00:31:47.299 Gay Isbur, and today we are talking to Bea Burns, 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:50.019 and this is Jewelry as Your Side Hustle. It's 00:31:50.019 --> 00:31:53.039 for entrepreneur artists. So thanks for listening 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.019 and thanks for being us together. Thanks so much 00:31:56.019 --> 00:31:57.539 and have a great rest of your day.