WEBVTT 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:23.500 This is jewelry is your side hustle this is the 00:00:23.500 --> 00:00:26.620 side hustle podcast and today I have a friend 00:00:26.620 --> 00:00:29.239 I'm sugar gay is for by the way And today I have 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:31.420 a friend, it's a new friend, and I can't wait 00:00:31.420 --> 00:00:34.159 to hear all about her story and her venture. 00:00:34.259 --> 00:00:36.560 She's an entrepreneur. She's a businesswoman. 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:40.820 We have in common the blocks. We both went through 00:00:40.820 --> 00:00:45.460 this entrepreneurial TV show format program, 00:00:45.460 --> 00:00:47.259 and we'll talk more about that. But it was a 00:00:47.259 --> 00:00:49.840 lot of fun and it kind of changed us and also 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:52.579 bonded us as a group. And I'm really proud to 00:00:52.579 --> 00:00:57.299 get to meet Esther today. Esther. Tell us who 00:00:57.299 --> 00:00:59.619 you are introduce yourself. I'm so glad you're 00:00:59.619 --> 00:01:04.340 here today Welcome to our my podcast Hi, thank 00:01:04.340 --> 00:01:06.579 you so much. And thank you so much for inviting 00:01:06.579 --> 00:01:09.879 me onto your podcast. I'm really grateful Um, 00:01:09.900 --> 00:01:14.420 my name is ester and i'm a medical massage therapist 00:01:14.420 --> 00:01:18.640 I was on season nine of the blocks and I competed 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:24.950 there um what I do mostly with My business is 00:01:24.950 --> 00:01:29.469 I do mainly trigger point therapy, which will 00:01:29.469 --> 00:01:34.030 treat symptoms, pain symptoms naturally. And 00:01:34.030 --> 00:01:36.950 so basically what I do is I get into the root 00:01:36.950 --> 00:01:40.129 of your pain problem, which is located in your 00:01:40.129 --> 00:01:45.959 muscle tissue. And a lot of the times, um, And 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.799 I'm not bashing on doctors. I believe in the 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:52.019 health care system. I think that people need 00:01:52.019 --> 00:01:55.579 health care. But a lot of the times, doctors 00:01:55.579 --> 00:01:59.159 will prescribe pain medication, which is oftentimes 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:03.900 addictive. And it will only treat basically the 00:02:03.900 --> 00:02:06.719 tip of the iceberg when the majority of the iceberg 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:11.409 is located underneath the water. what trigger 00:02:11.409 --> 00:02:13.650 point therapy does is it gets to the root of 00:02:13.650 --> 00:02:16.289 the pain problem located in the muscle tissue 00:02:16.289 --> 00:02:20.930 and That's kind of what I do in general. I do 00:02:20.930 --> 00:02:25.949 other things like I'd help I treat plantar fasciitis 00:02:25.949 --> 00:02:30.750 and migraine sciatica and other stuff like that, 00:02:31.030 --> 00:02:39.949 but that's mainly what I do Yeah, I'm located 00:02:39.949 --> 00:02:43.330 in Michigan the upper peninsula so it's way up 00:02:43.330 --> 00:02:48.389 there Your way up here. I'm actually actually 00:02:48.389 --> 00:02:50.889 there's a there's a peninsula that's above the 00:02:50.889 --> 00:02:55.669 hand Okay, it's past the Mackinac bridge. So 00:02:55.669 --> 00:02:59.430 you're up there like way up there Yeah, so you 00:02:59.430 --> 00:03:02.150 have the you have like Michigan and then you 00:03:02.150 --> 00:03:04.810 have the upper peninsula, which is like Kind 00:03:04.810 --> 00:03:07.030 of shaped like this. There's the Keweenaw Peninsula. 00:03:07.030 --> 00:03:12.129 That's like that, but I'm like right here Okay 00:03:12.129 --> 00:03:15.030 There's you always live there or didn't you just 00:03:15.030 --> 00:03:18.909 find this place and go this is good Yeah, I've 00:03:18.909 --> 00:03:21.050 not lived here my whole life. I've been here 00:03:21.050 --> 00:03:24.689 for 12 years though, and I came here from Seattle, 00:03:24.689 --> 00:03:29.210 Washington. I moved here from Seattle, Washington, 00:03:29.310 --> 00:03:33.400 so And I fell in love with the youper they call 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:37.180 them youpers up here And so I fell in love with 00:03:37.180 --> 00:03:39.919 the youper culture and just like how you help 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:44.039 each other out. You help your neighbor out But 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:46.620 a lot of the times it isn't like that it's more 00:03:46.620 --> 00:03:49.039 like oh we're gonna gossip about our neighbors 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:53.240 It's small town. That's how it works. They gotta 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:55.719 get the stories out there You gotta get the you 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:58.020 know, everything with the thing. So have you 00:03:58.020 --> 00:04:01.550 been a physical therapist for Is this like your 00:04:01.550 --> 00:04:04.469 dream job? Is this hard work like you're to be 00:04:04.469 --> 00:04:10.069 really like intensely muscle muscles, too Yeah, 00:04:10.129 --> 00:04:12.629 well, I'm actually I'm a medical massage therapist. 00:04:12.629 --> 00:04:16.110 I'm not a physical therapist, but I do love it. 00:04:16.110 --> 00:04:20.629 Um, I'm actually Kind of a transition right now 00:04:20.629 --> 00:04:24.370 in life. I'm not really exactly sure if I want 00:04:24.370 --> 00:04:28.129 to stay up here just because of All the stuff 00:04:28.129 --> 00:04:32.449 I've been dealing with as an entrepreneur, it's 00:04:32.449 --> 00:04:37.199 been so disheartening. Just the only thing. Yeah, 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.980 the only thing that keeps me going are my blocks 00:04:39.980 --> 00:04:43.420 friends like people like you People that I've 00:04:43.420 --> 00:04:46.139 met on the blocks or people that I got to connect 00:04:46.139 --> 00:04:48.899 with who did the blocks You know kind of people 00:04:48.899 --> 00:04:51.980 who are on the same page as me or doing similar 00:04:51.980 --> 00:04:54.740 things just because I can relate with them more 00:04:54.740 --> 00:04:58.420 I can't really relate with people who are just 00:04:58.420 --> 00:05:02.100 sitting around making up lies about People that 00:05:02.100 --> 00:05:04.759 they've never even met before that's just something 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:09.519 I've been dealing with like constantly. It's 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:12.480 not like, I don't know. And it's just this one 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.939 specific girl that just keeps going after me 00:05:15.939 --> 00:05:18.660 year after year. Like this is the second year 00:05:18.660 --> 00:05:22.180 and she's still, and I try and ignore it, but 00:05:22.180 --> 00:05:25.240 it's to the point where she's posting lies about 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:29.019 me and it's just too much drama. Like I, I don't 00:05:29.019 --> 00:05:33.279 thrive off of drama. Like that's just not me. 00:05:33.620 --> 00:05:36.100 Right. We got to do something to her. I'm so 00:05:36.100 --> 00:05:38.600 sorry. I don't know what to do for you. Like 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:41.639 what a bummer to have that happening to you. 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:46.720 Like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. It's okay. 00:05:46.939 --> 00:05:49.240 I've, I've just told myself it's because she's 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:52.379 jealous, you know, and I can't really do anything 00:05:52.379 --> 00:05:55.660 about that. All I can do is show her like, Hey, 00:05:55.660 --> 00:05:57.879 if you're jealous of my life, you can do this 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:00.980 also. You know, anyone could do what I'm doing. 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:04.579 Anybody can. You know, just like with the blocks, 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:07.920 like anybody can become an entrepreneur. Anybody 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:10.879 can do it. In fact, the other ladies that took, 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:13.920 they took my space over there. It's just right 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:17.300 next door. So literally we're neighbors now and 00:06:17.300 --> 00:06:21.759 now they're all trying to start this sober community 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:25.040 where with activities and stuff. And I'm like, 00:06:25.579 --> 00:06:30.480 that's what I was trying to do. Well, you gotta 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:32.600 join them I guess like we can't let them join 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:35.899 them I mean so what being that entrepreneur is 00:06:35.899 --> 00:06:39.040 such a hard job like I get it my husband would 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.879 Cry if I asked him to do anything entrepreneurial 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:46.480 like it just is not in him So I get what you're 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.139 going through like we are kind of our own breed 00:06:49.139 --> 00:06:51.620 That's one of the reasons why I had this podcast 00:06:51.620 --> 00:06:54.980 I think the stories of how people got to where 00:06:54.980 --> 00:06:58.529 they are like how you got to the blocks and like 00:06:58.529 --> 00:07:03.509 did you learn a lot there to like help you go 00:07:03.509 --> 00:07:09.089 forward oh yeah i learned so much i in fact learned 00:07:10.050 --> 00:07:13.670 So much and there was some stuff I didn't retain 00:07:13.670 --> 00:07:15.990 that I should have kind of paid attention to 00:07:15.990 --> 00:07:18.769 like doing a Contract with someone if you're 00:07:18.769 --> 00:07:21.569 gonna do business with anyone No matter what 00:07:21.569 --> 00:07:24.449 no matter how much you think they're a good person 00:07:24.449 --> 00:07:27.290 or they are a good person you should always still 00:07:27.290 --> 00:07:30.589 get a contract and sign it if you're making a 00:07:30.589 --> 00:07:33.689 business deal no matter what because that's just 00:07:33.689 --> 00:07:37.120 how it works these days and So that's what I 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:40.800 didn't do is I bought a business after the blocks. 00:07:41.819 --> 00:07:44.839 I decided to buy a business that was going, she 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:49.519 wanted to retire and. I didn't have a contract 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:52.740 because I knew, I knew that I was going to follow 00:07:52.740 --> 00:08:00.019 through with my, you know, with my deal, with 00:08:00.019 --> 00:08:04.519 my deal, which was continue her art co -op. and 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:07.279 she ended up, after I gave her the rest of the 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:14.560 money my house sold and I ended up giving her 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:18.360 the rest of the cash and a few, it was like a 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:22.339 few days or maybe a week later she ended up coming 00:08:22.339 --> 00:08:27.800 in there taking out all of her crafts In bags 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:32.340 she called the police on me and told the police 00:08:32.340 --> 00:08:35.100 and that she completely lied to the police about 00:08:35.100 --> 00:08:38.080 me and I because she said I was trying to block 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:42.080 her from taking her stuff so much drama and then 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:45.940 after that I was like She ended up getting a 00:08:45.940 --> 00:08:52.210 no trespass order because she you know and Anyway, 00:08:52.450 --> 00:08:56.389 so it kind of tanked and now I'm having To go 00:08:56.389 --> 00:08:59.230 through this kind of depressive episode of like 00:08:59.230 --> 00:09:07.070 what am I gonna do next? So I did rebrand I did 00:09:07.070 --> 00:09:09.429 rebrand the two businesses. I had to restore 00:09:09.429 --> 00:09:12.029 to bodywork, which is my medical massage practice 00:09:12.029 --> 00:09:15.649 and Rare Earth Goods, which is the art co -op 00:09:15.649 --> 00:09:19.169 that I bought. I just rebranded those two businesses 00:09:19.169 --> 00:09:22.409 into one, and that's now called Elements and 00:09:22.409 --> 00:09:26.830 Bodywork. Well, that's a big jump. That's a big 00:09:26.830 --> 00:09:30.250 step forward. Yeah. So now I'm basically trying 00:09:30.250 --> 00:09:34.309 to focus on my medical massage and offering the 00:09:34.309 --> 00:09:39.470 community this natural pain management strategy, 00:09:39.570 --> 00:09:45.809 which Live in a really small town so and I'm 00:09:45.809 --> 00:09:48.929 not from here even though I've lived here for 00:09:48.929 --> 00:09:54.009 12 years I'm a transplant and they just they 00:09:54.009 --> 00:10:01.970 treat you a certain way and so It's hard in those 00:10:01.970 --> 00:10:05.429 communities that are like so tight so I yeah, 00:10:05.730 --> 00:10:09.970 you're like very frustrated and and also I one 00:10:09.970 --> 00:10:14.029 time Didn't get a contract. I didn't I mean like 00:10:14.029 --> 00:10:17.490 what was I fucking thinking? and yeah, I handed 00:10:17.490 --> 00:10:20.429 a guy a whole bunch of cash and Thought that 00:10:20.429 --> 00:10:22.350 we were on the same page and he was gonna do 00:10:22.350 --> 00:10:25.409 the right thing cuz he was my neighbor And everything 00:10:25.409 --> 00:10:27.809 went to hell and at that point it's kind of like 00:10:27.809 --> 00:10:29.529 when everything I kind of decided you know what 00:10:29.529 --> 00:10:31.149 I think I'm gonna move from here and just start 00:10:31.149 --> 00:10:33.590 over I don't want to look at him all the time 00:10:33.590 --> 00:10:35.590 and there there's something else out there for 00:10:35.590 --> 00:10:38.259 me. It's not here because that after he screwed 00:10:38.259 --> 00:10:40.899 me I really just wanted to kill him like there's 00:10:40.899 --> 00:10:43.100 just there's really like me or him and he's gonna 00:10:43.100 --> 00:10:45.200 die now I just better move because that's a lot 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:49.799 of trouble so I've been there girl like I'm telling 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:53.440 you like life is hard like I get it I also went 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:57.940 to my neurologist today haha and got my prescription 00:10:57.940 --> 00:11:00.940 refilled for gabapentin which I live on because 00:11:00.940 --> 00:11:04.559 I have trigeminal neuralgia which you probably 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.220 could fix because it's just right here like you 00:11:07.220 --> 00:11:10.840 can basically put your fingers on it and go yeah 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:14.639 that's the nerve that makes you fall to your 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:16.799 knees it's so painful sometimes when it gets 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:20.679 inflamed I was so crying the other day. I couldn't 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.100 even breathe. The pain was the worst, worst, 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:24.700 worst, worst I've ever had. And I've had this 00:11:24.700 --> 00:11:28.840 for like 10 years. So I, on that pain spectrum, 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:31.159 it's called the suicide disease, cause it's so 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:34.080 painful, but I know that it's just like right 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:36.899 there. So I always put the water, the hot water, 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.720 you know, right here, the trying to get some 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.620 pressure up at it. Boy, you could do consults 00:11:42.620 --> 00:11:47.230 just even over. zoom because like it that's really 00:11:47.230 --> 00:11:49.730 kind i don't know what you would do like if you 00:11:49.730 --> 00:11:53.629 had somebody like me and you treat anybody with 00:11:53.629 --> 00:11:56.370 trigeminal neuralgia which is just this trigeminal 00:11:56.370 --> 00:12:02.110 nerve i've heard of is it like tmj now tmj is 00:12:02.110 --> 00:12:06.169 in your in the hinges yeah the nerve that goes 00:12:06.169 --> 00:12:09.129 from here down to your tongue and your lower 00:12:09.129 --> 00:12:13.360 jaw Yeah, not luckily not the top part and luckily 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:22.940 I don't have it on both sides but I've heard 00:12:22.940 --> 00:12:25.519 of that before I don't know if I've necessarily 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:27.600 treated anyone with that but I would know how 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.659 to and I could also Like you're right. I could 00:12:30.659 --> 00:12:35.519 do these Zoom consoles over so I could teach 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:38.759 you how to do self you know, self massage so 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:40.860 that you could relieve the pain on your own. 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:48.799 But I'm still learning, you know, every I was 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.340 never an entrepreneur before the blocks. Really, 00:12:52.340 --> 00:12:56.679 I was kind of, but I was more working for someone. 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:01.039 And so just every day is kind of a learning experience 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:05.570 for me. um just meeting new people and getting 00:13:05.570 --> 00:13:09.870 to know the fact that like you know i dealt with 00:13:09.870 --> 00:13:13.590 a lot of shame in my past like in my childhood 00:13:13.590 --> 00:13:16.450 just being taught growing up in the church and 00:13:16.450 --> 00:13:18.750 everything so i've basically was taught to be 00:13:18.750 --> 00:13:22.870 ashamed of my own body and so that's where you 00:13:22.870 --> 00:13:28.230 are and so yeah and so even being on camera trying 00:13:28.230 --> 00:13:30.919 to figure out what type of content I'm going 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.360 to do, how I'm going to do it, how I'm going 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:36.740 to show people without being embarrassed about 00:13:36.740 --> 00:13:40.000 the way I look, you know, has been a struggle. 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.659 You don't look bad. What are you talking about? 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.399 I'm looking at you. I don't see anything wrong. 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.860 We could be we could be sisters if you have blonde 00:13:52.860 --> 00:13:57.360 hair and glasses. Right. Where are you located? 00:13:57.940 --> 00:14:02.379 I'm in Huddo, Texas, which is a suburb of Austin. 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:07.059 So I'm in central Texas and it's foggy and kind 00:14:07.059 --> 00:14:10.279 of cold here today, but you know, that's what 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:13.679 it is. It's weird. Yesterday it was like 90. 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:17.379 Today it's like cold, colder, like just sweater 00:14:17.379 --> 00:14:21.379 weather, nothing hard. So yeah. Okay. Well, let's 00:14:21.379 --> 00:14:24.169 go back to the blocks for a minute because Like 00:14:24.169 --> 00:14:26.950 even today on my Facebook, you would see one 00:14:26.950 --> 00:14:32.549 of my Bloxer friends, Dave and Monica, Dave and 00:14:32.549 --> 00:14:35.169 Monica, oh, I shouldn't know, Lepinsky or something. 00:14:35.509 --> 00:14:37.990 But they have a grill and I make jewelry for 00:14:37.990 --> 00:14:41.730 them. It's little Blox, the little Bloxer guy, 00:14:41.909 --> 00:14:45.070 you know, the little astronaut guy. And they 00:14:45.070 --> 00:14:47.309 just got some of my jewelry this weekend. I made 00:14:47.309 --> 00:14:49.750 a green one for her on a necklace. And then he 00:14:49.750 --> 00:14:52.559 got a kind of a blinged out thing. So when he 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.720 goes to see Wes, he's got some bling for his, 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:59.220 you know, he's got a lot of personality and they're 00:14:59.220 --> 00:15:01.240 winning a lot of awards and they're very, you 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.879 know, active in the blocker group. So I, you 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:06.820 know, it's just something I think that's what 00:15:06.820 --> 00:15:10.019 I got out of the blocks is that I had more customers 00:15:10.019 --> 00:15:14.460 that I could just casually send things to and 00:15:14.460 --> 00:15:17.610 make things for and then. in other words kind 00:15:17.610 --> 00:15:20.990 of been out but you know it is you know we have 00:15:20.990 --> 00:15:25.129 a lot of people that were in health care and 00:15:25.129 --> 00:15:27.990 and i was in season 14 but we had a lot of people 00:15:27.990 --> 00:15:34.389 that were uh salons or spas or i don't know skin 00:15:34.389 --> 00:15:36.789 treatments and all those kind of things which 00:15:36.789 --> 00:15:41.009 really is kind of in the same genre as you like 00:15:41.009 --> 00:15:42.870 you know touching people working with people 00:15:42.870 --> 00:15:45.490 trying to help people and cure people But it's 00:15:45.490 --> 00:15:50.370 a hard gig. I get it. How is the art co -op doing? 00:15:50.730 --> 00:15:56.990 Is that a good business there? It was going well 00:15:56.990 --> 00:16:00.509 for a while, but I had to move locations because 00:16:00.509 --> 00:16:03.830 my lease expired and my landlords decided to 00:16:03.830 --> 00:16:08.309 go with basically my competitors instead. Oh, 00:16:08.309 --> 00:16:11.700 no. And they didn't even give me an option to 00:16:11.700 --> 00:16:15.460 resign my lease. So I was scrambling I was thinking 00:16:15.460 --> 00:16:17.639 I was gonna have to give everything up completely 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:22.100 but luckily One of the landlords in town heard 00:16:22.100 --> 00:16:25.899 about my situation And he came over to talk to 00:16:25.899 --> 00:16:28.779 me and he actually offered me a really good deal 00:16:28.779 --> 00:16:34.279 So I could do the massage practice and have the 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:38.940 art the art business so my website is live but 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:42.320 Right now, the point of sale, my point of sale 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:47.200 guy hasn't been able to connect it to do online 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:50.639 sales yet. So that's confusing. I'm not a tech 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:57.440 person. And so I have like probably 40 or 45 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:03.019 different artists here with me right now. But 00:17:03.019 --> 00:17:06.299 I'm to the point where I'm not exactly sure how 00:17:06.299 --> 00:17:09.559 I'm going to pivot. Am I just gonna take it as 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.980 a total loss and give it up completely? Am I 00:17:12.980 --> 00:17:15.619 gonna still move forward with it? I don't really 00:17:15.619 --> 00:17:20.180 know so I'm just I mean, I mean at this point 00:17:20.180 --> 00:17:24.480 I'm To the point where I might end up moving 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:29.720 states completely but Oklahoma is a state that 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:32.420 I was thinking about moving to also Texas because 00:17:32.420 --> 00:17:37.250 my sister lives in Texas, but South Carolina 00:17:37.250 --> 00:17:40.829 is also another state I was thinking about moving 00:17:40.829 --> 00:17:46.569 to But I think I just The Upper Peninsula is 00:17:46.569 --> 00:17:49.609 a great place to live and the people are nice 00:17:49.609 --> 00:17:52.609 and everything but if you get like on the wrong 00:17:52.609 --> 00:17:58.009 side of The gossip which can be lies, you know 00:17:58.190 --> 00:18:01.569 And no one comes to confront you or no one comes 00:18:01.569 --> 00:18:04.970 to ask you what actually happened. Nobody really 00:18:04.970 --> 00:18:08.390 cares. They just believe the gossip. You know, 00:18:09.170 --> 00:18:13.809 which oftentimes can be not even the truth. But 00:18:13.809 --> 00:18:17.509 it's just I'm not a drama person. I like to be 00:18:17.509 --> 00:18:21.789 alone, drama free, calm. Like I have my service 00:18:21.789 --> 00:18:25.200 animal. But I'm not really sure if I answered 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.720 the question, but basically I just kind of had 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:33.240 to You know go with the flow and figure it out 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.339 Is your service dog right there next to you Yeah, 00:18:37.339 --> 00:18:40.700 he's right here. Oh, it's his name. Let's see 00:18:40.700 --> 00:18:46.680 him Yeah, his name is Scout. Hey Scout Hello 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:50.180 Scout. We're kissing your nose We're kissing 00:18:50.180 --> 00:18:56.490 your nose Hello, honey Hello, honey. We're so 00:18:56.490 --> 00:19:00.049 happy you're here with us It does feel good to 00:19:00.049 --> 00:19:04.190 have a just a critter to just love on doesn't 00:19:04.190 --> 00:19:10.670 it? Hey scout Yeah Yeah And he was actually on 00:19:10.670 --> 00:19:15.809 the blocks with me. Oh really? Yeah Oh that's 00:19:15.809 --> 00:19:20.630 so cute Yeah, he is when I was in the doctor's 00:19:20.630 --> 00:19:23.029 office somebody had it was a doodle You know 00:19:23.029 --> 00:19:26.349 a pretty little doodle dog and it was a service 00:19:26.349 --> 00:19:28.529 dog and so, you know You don't pet them because 00:19:28.529 --> 00:19:32.210 you know, they're doing their job but Amazing 00:19:32.210 --> 00:19:35.309 with these animals what they give to us like 00:19:35.309 --> 00:19:38.650 Such an important thing, you know, that's another 00:19:38.650 --> 00:19:40.730 thing that you could teach online is how to get 00:19:40.730 --> 00:19:44.450 a service animal You probably know a lot more 00:19:44.450 --> 00:19:47.700 things than you know Like it sounds like you've 00:19:47.700 --> 00:19:50.240 been kind of beat up there. I get that you need 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:53.980 to like have a start over, you know, really get 00:19:53.980 --> 00:19:57.319 passionate about, you know, whatever your, you 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:59.940 know, if it's the medical part of it, like that's 00:19:59.940 --> 00:20:02.680 your really big deal. Do you have to have a license 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:06.680 for what you do? Um, yeah, you have to be licensed 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:11.059 as a massage therapist and then to get the medical 00:20:11.059 --> 00:20:15.900 massage practitioner status, like To like to 00:20:15.900 --> 00:20:18.559 put the other extra letters next to your name 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.700 like it would be lmt comma mmp, which would be 00:20:22.700 --> 00:20:25.940 the Medical massage practitioner you do need 00:20:25.940 --> 00:20:29.259 to get an extra certificate for that Um, but 00:20:29.259 --> 00:20:31.599 it's really not that difficult to get once you 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:36.680 know, like anatomy Right You know and massage 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:39.500 techniques It's really not that difficult to 00:20:39.500 --> 00:20:44.430 get. Um But you do need to have constant continued 00:20:44.430 --> 00:20:48.089 education every three years i need to update 00:20:48.089 --> 00:20:52.450 my license so so for every three years i need 00:20:52.450 --> 00:20:59.630 like 18 to 20 extra educational hours um but 00:20:59.630 --> 00:21:02.890 what about joining up with a chiropractor because 00:21:02.890 --> 00:21:07.829 they usually have you know spontaneous kind of 00:21:07.829 --> 00:21:10.450 customers coming in but you know that seems like 00:21:10.450 --> 00:21:13.750 you're kind of with in with that Those people 00:21:13.750 --> 00:21:18.009 know I did work for chiropractic office for about 00:21:18.009 --> 00:21:23.269 three and a half years and it was fine, but I 00:21:23.269 --> 00:21:28.430 just I Wanted to start my own business Just because 00:21:28.430 --> 00:21:31.829 I knew I could do it and I have been doing it 00:21:31.829 --> 00:21:34.609 Realistically, my only problem is population, 00:21:34.609 --> 00:21:39.170 you know the population is so little around here 00:21:39.170 --> 00:21:44.369 and Sometimes I I was kind of switching focus 00:21:44.369 --> 00:21:48.890 because I was like Trying to bring attention 00:21:48.890 --> 00:21:52.569 to all sorts of different things like the food 00:21:52.569 --> 00:21:57.130 system How we're being you know, a lot of the 00:21:57.130 --> 00:21:59.150 times like we don't even know but if you look 00:21:59.150 --> 00:22:01.130 at a lot of stuff in the grocery store We're 00:22:01.130 --> 00:22:06.130 being poisoned. Yes So I was posting a lot about 00:22:06.130 --> 00:22:09.720 that And people would be offended and then stop 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:13.079 supporting my business. And I'm like, I'd rather 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.259 tell people the truth about what's actually going 00:22:15.259 --> 00:22:19.980 on and have my, my business negatively affected. 00:22:20.140 --> 00:22:23.240 Cause I can always get a job somewhere if it 00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:27.740 worse comes to worse. Right. Um, but that's my 00:22:27.740 --> 00:22:31.660 main passion is bringing attention to the food 00:22:31.660 --> 00:22:37.180 system and how. Scientists were hired in America 00:22:37.180 --> 00:22:40.720 to make food addicting and how it's not it's 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:45.339 not even they don't really care about they Don't 00:22:45.339 --> 00:22:49.720 really care about Human health at all or mental 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:52.240 health. They just care about making more money, 00:22:52.539 --> 00:22:55.559 which is basically the pharmaceutical industry 00:22:55.559 --> 00:23:00.740 and that's what I'm trying to fight with That's 00:23:00.740 --> 00:23:02.599 what I'm trying and I know that people do need 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:06.559 prescription medication to get through but there 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:10.019 are certain medications that aren't really necessary 00:23:10.019 --> 00:23:13.160 that it can be treated with other modalities 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:16.079 which is what I'm really trying to bring attention 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:21.619 to because you know it's just it's just a crazy 00:23:21.619 --> 00:23:25.099 world we live in you know it is I just read where 00:23:25.099 --> 00:23:28.539 we each have like a teaspoon of microplastics 00:23:28.539 --> 00:23:34.650 in our body and in our head Like microplastics 00:23:34.650 --> 00:23:36.549 are everywhere. They're probably what's causing 00:23:36.549 --> 00:23:39.730 all these problems. Like, who knows? I drink 00:23:39.730 --> 00:23:41.970 out of a plastic glass. That's probably giving 00:23:41.970 --> 00:23:46.029 me microplastic in my body. Like I need to change. 00:23:46.130 --> 00:23:49.710 Everything needs to be plastic free, really. 00:23:50.089 --> 00:23:51.890 Like our, you know, things that we can buy in 00:23:51.890 --> 00:23:55.109 glass are okay, but plastic is going to become 00:23:55.109 --> 00:23:57.410 a real problem, especially for little babies. 00:23:58.130 --> 00:24:01.769 You know, I think about how Ah, it's so horrible 00:24:01.769 --> 00:24:05.210 to think about what we've probably done to kids 00:24:05.210 --> 00:24:10.089 already just shoving, you know, plastic into 00:24:10.089 --> 00:24:14.069 their mouths. Yeah, and that is another aspect 00:24:14.069 --> 00:24:19.160 I was trying to add to. The art co -op, I was 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:22.279 trying to do the art co -op and helps promote 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.859 like supporting local artists and local businesses. 00:24:26.180 --> 00:24:29.859 I was also trying to add like a zero waste aspect 00:24:29.859 --> 00:24:33.200 to it, which brings attention to the plastic 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.579 pollution situation going on in the oceans. And 00:24:36.579 --> 00:24:39.119 so like, it just got to the point where I was 00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:42.660 like, I can't save the whole world. Right. I 00:24:42.660 --> 00:24:47.819 know. By myself. I know. But if we can connect 00:24:47.819 --> 00:24:50.960 more with like -minded individuals like yourself 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:53.960 and other people from the blocks You know, I 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:58.339 feel like we could start to change societal structures, 00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.859 especially the corporations We have a piece of 00:25:01.859 --> 00:25:04.000 property that goes along a creek and the creek 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:08.180 goes into a big huge lake that is Man -made but 00:25:08.180 --> 00:25:13.299 it's a reservoir. It's beautiful and I make sure 00:25:13.299 --> 00:25:17.359 I am picking up and I try so hard to pick up 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.740 any little piece of plastic like it's kind of 00:25:19.740 --> 00:25:22.640 amazing how much you know like the squirrels 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.400 ate the coffee the Folgers coffee can and all 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.920 that little red plastic just you know it's like 00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:31.680 and then I did some glitter and then I'm like 00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:34.440 oh my god that's so you know you get out that 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:37.420 big huge vacuum and vacuum the grass just because 00:25:37.420 --> 00:25:40.680 you know like that's real like glitter is a huge 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:44.170 problem like that is not going away those products 00:25:44.170 --> 00:25:47.390 are everywhere. But it's amazing, even though 00:25:47.390 --> 00:25:51.009 I am admonit about, I picked up little pieces 00:25:51.009 --> 00:25:54.609 of plastic outside where I was just throwing 00:25:54.609 --> 00:25:57.630 the coffee grounds out and the recycle in the 00:25:57.630 --> 00:26:00.450 front yard. It's kind of crazy how much plastic 00:26:00.450 --> 00:26:04.049 there is. And some people don't see it. My husband 00:26:04.049 --> 00:26:06.150 would just mow all over it and make it into like 00:26:06.150 --> 00:26:08.109 a million more pieces. It's like, oh my God, 00:26:08.309 --> 00:26:13.349 no, pick it up. Like, so I'm with you, Esther. 00:26:13.930 --> 00:26:16.269 This is a hard time right now, but I want you 00:26:16.269 --> 00:26:19.769 to succeed. And maybe you could just live in 00:26:19.769 --> 00:26:22.470 the city that you're in and then work in a neighboring 00:26:22.470 --> 00:26:25.849 city and get yourself out of that little thing 00:26:25.849 --> 00:26:27.710 and create such a good life that they're all 00:26:27.710 --> 00:26:30.269 talking about you. But who cares? Because you've 00:26:30.269 --> 00:26:35.029 got a great life. So what does it matter? Great. 00:26:35.710 --> 00:26:37.549 And that's why I need to keep telling myself 00:26:37.549 --> 00:26:40.990 too is because I'm still learning and growing 00:26:40.990 --> 00:26:44.130 as an individual and I obviously I want to be 00:26:44.130 --> 00:26:48.910 accepted who doesn't But yeah, you're right, 00:26:48.990 --> 00:26:51.089 like if I'm not accepted here, I know there's 00:26:51.089 --> 00:26:53.869 other places that would accept me You know, I'm 00:26:53.869 --> 00:26:57.670 just a regular normal person. I'm not You know, 00:26:57.670 --> 00:27:00.849 I'm not a crazy person but But maybe aligning 00:27:00.849 --> 00:27:03.529 with a chiropractor would be smart because they're 00:27:03.529 --> 00:27:07.230 in the same field as yours relieving pain, you 00:27:07.230 --> 00:27:10.549 know, holistically and naturally or, you know, 00:27:10.690 --> 00:27:12.609 maybe a health food store or something like that. 00:27:12.609 --> 00:27:15.049 Like, I don't know what's around you, but there 00:27:15.049 --> 00:27:18.710 has to be somebody out there that has need to 00:27:18.710 --> 00:27:21.730 have because I mean, I guess you need like a 00:27:21.730 --> 00:27:23.950 bed for people to lay down so that you can do 00:27:23.950 --> 00:27:27.130 to work on their body. But, you know, you definitely 00:27:27.130 --> 00:27:29.369 could align with somebody that already has those. 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.920 My husband was a doctor. He was an MD and an 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.079 attorney, but he really believed in the medical 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.099 care that chiropractors, he talked there too, 00:27:39.500 --> 00:27:42.259 because it is just about laying your hands on 00:27:42.259 --> 00:27:47.059 people that really helps them, you know, get 00:27:47.059 --> 00:27:53.700 better, right? Yeah. That's like a thing. And 00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:57.000 I could definitely do chair massage in different 00:27:57.339 --> 00:28:00.119 Community stores around here. I just need to 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.039 take the initiative to reach out now that I've 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.940 kind of regrouped and I'm kind of settling into 00:28:06.940 --> 00:28:11.440 my new space. I feel a lot safer now Last year 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.099 I had dealt with You know, it was still a positive 00:28:15.099 --> 00:28:20.240 experience. Like it wasn't all negative But there 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.980 was one time where somebody threatened my life 00:28:22.980 --> 00:28:28.849 and that really Was like, okay my PTSD kind of 00:28:28.849 --> 00:28:31.569 went off after that and I was just like every 00:28:31.569 --> 00:28:34.490 day trying to keep myself safe But now that I'm 00:28:34.490 --> 00:28:38.109 in a safe spot like and I know no one's really 00:28:38.109 --> 00:28:40.950 gonna Do anything to me, especially since the 00:28:40.950 --> 00:28:45.089 police station is two blocks that way I know 00:28:45.089 --> 00:28:48.470 no one's gonna do anything to me now. I feel 00:28:48.470 --> 00:28:54.599 a lot safer to kind of Go out there and let people 00:28:54.599 --> 00:29:00.319 know like what I do and stuff like that. So that's 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.700 good. It's all gonna be okay but yeah you do 00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:06.960 need a plan forward and you know just to get 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.099 fresh again and look around and go you know we're 00:29:10.099 --> 00:29:12.259 going into spring so you know it's a good time 00:29:12.259 --> 00:29:16.599 to be revitalizing yourself you know trying new 00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:20.900 things being creative looking outside where you 00:29:20.900 --> 00:29:24.259 are and going okay. What else does the world 00:29:24.259 --> 00:29:26.500 offer me? Like what else can I do that would 00:29:26.500 --> 00:29:31.160 be beneficial to this? You know, I did acupuncture 00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:33.380 for a while for this because I really believe 00:29:33.380 --> 00:29:38.039 in holistic too. And you know, she sold oils, 00:29:38.220 --> 00:29:40.299 you know, of course I had to buy the oils that 00:29:40.299 --> 00:29:43.259 she wanted me to have. So they were quite expensive, 00:29:43.299 --> 00:29:45.180 but you know, it is what it is because she's 00:29:45.180 --> 00:29:49.299 got to make money too. So, you know, acupuncture 00:29:49.299 --> 00:29:52.240 is another... I don't know if there's any around 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:54.019 there, but you know, they certainly are dealing 00:29:54.019 --> 00:29:57.420 in the same thing as you are. When the acupuncture 00:29:57.420 --> 00:29:59.740 doesn't necessarily work or in conjunction with 00:29:59.740 --> 00:30:02.900 acupuncture, if you were doing some healing, 00:30:03.259 --> 00:30:05.380 that would be a smart thing. Are there any of 00:30:05.380 --> 00:30:08.420 those kind of holistic places, maybe not in your 00:30:08.420 --> 00:30:13.720 little town, but maybe around you? Yeah, definitely. 00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.559 We do have Marquette, which is a bigger town. 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.640 Great Exil Lake Superior. So I could definitely 00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:23.299 do that. It's just a matter of like they would 00:30:23.299 --> 00:30:27.819 have to I would have to give them my card like 00:30:27.819 --> 00:30:32.799 they're not gonna hire me there. They would have 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.839 to kind of just recommend me out to people but 00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:41.079 they're not gonna want to do that either because 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.759 you know they have their own like with chiropractic 00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.980 Offices they have their own massage therapists 00:30:48.980 --> 00:30:53.500 That work for them and I that's kind of why I 00:30:53.500 --> 00:30:57.859 got out of chiropractic work working for a chiropractic 00:30:57.859 --> 00:31:02.720 office because I wanted to You know be able to 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:09.119 run my own business But it definitely is an option 00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:14.619 I definitely One thing about me is like I am 00:31:14.619 --> 00:31:18.160 easily taken advantage of because I just want 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.119 to help you know and so people see that and then 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:25.140 they're like, how can I Basically use this person 00:31:25.140 --> 00:31:29.960 You know, I'm I truly am a super nice person 00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.539 and I have to sometimes put on my big girl panties 00:31:33.539 --> 00:31:35.799 and You know really step up to the plate and 00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.019 it's not in my nature. I'm a middle child and 00:31:38.019 --> 00:31:41.849 I don't like conflict You know and I have learned 00:31:41.849 --> 00:31:45.430 from my mistakes. I do still make mistakes But 00:31:45.430 --> 00:31:48.650 yeah, I mean it it's it's I think my favorite 00:31:48.650 --> 00:31:51.369 word is it's a slog It's just I don't know what 00:31:51.369 --> 00:31:54.309 that word means to you, but it's like oh There's 00:31:54.309 --> 00:31:56.670 just so much to it and being an entrepreneur 00:31:56.670 --> 00:32:00.150 is really hard and if it's kind of like feeling 00:32:00.150 --> 00:32:02.990 overwhelming if you're maybe aligned yourself 00:32:02.990 --> 00:32:06.329 with just go back and Become an employee for 00:32:06.329 --> 00:32:08.369 somebody or working under somebody where you 00:32:08.369 --> 00:32:11.019 don't have to worry about the taxes and the website 00:32:11.019 --> 00:32:13.200 and the phone number and you know just all those 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.380 things that get taken care of or if you joined 00:32:16.380 --> 00:32:18.680 with another person that's you know they always 00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:21.359 say if you have one hat store put another hat 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.460 store right next to it because then everybody 00:32:23.460 --> 00:32:26.900 knows to come there you know same thing with 00:32:26.900 --> 00:32:29.640 if there's an attorney in town they can support 00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:31.440 a whole bunch of other attorneys because he's 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:33.980 got to have somebody to fight against so it is 00:32:33.980 --> 00:32:37.450 there are community things happening all around 00:32:37.450 --> 00:32:40.390 you and you know maybe those chiropractors are 00:32:40.390 --> 00:32:43.049 looking for somebody like you that has a good 00:32:43.049 --> 00:32:46.349 you know background in you know the massage for 00:32:46.349 --> 00:32:48.730 pain because that's what people are coming to 00:32:48.730 --> 00:32:52.650 them for is for pain so and you know not to get 00:32:52.650 --> 00:32:55.930 on painkillers or steroids or something like 00:32:55.930 --> 00:33:00.470 that yeah it's definitely something i mean i 00:33:00.470 --> 00:33:03.519 have been approached by a few different chiropractors 00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:08.319 about working for them. And it's just like, um, 00:33:08.420 --> 00:33:11.599 if I did that, I would want to probably just 00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:15.359 move out of the area just because I've been, 00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:19.460 I think that's just what my, what my plan is 00:33:19.460 --> 00:33:22.000 going to have to be because the, the place is 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.460 hiring like in South Carolina. They're, they're 00:33:25.460 --> 00:33:28.980 hiring and the, the rate that they're paying 00:33:28.980 --> 00:33:34.819 is almost $20 more per hour to work for them. 00:33:35.539 --> 00:33:40.000 So it really is about like, for me, it's not 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:43.779 necessarily about the money, but I do deserve, 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:48.119 you know, I'm doing all the work for it. As a 00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:51.579 massage therapist, I'm physically doing all the 00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:55.599 work. And that's why I had the confidence to 00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.140 start my business in the first place because 00:33:58.140 --> 00:34:01.380 Everyone would tell me how great my massage was 00:34:01.380 --> 00:34:05.500 And I still do give an amazing massage. How are 00:34:05.500 --> 00:34:10.320 we on time? We have three minutes Okay, but yeah, 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.659 I do still give an amazing massage and it's just 00:34:14.659 --> 00:34:17.199 a matter of I just I think it's just a matter 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:22.059 of like struggling to build The practice in such 00:34:22.059 --> 00:34:26.719 a small town is my, my own. Got to have people, 00:34:26.820 --> 00:34:29.820 you know, I moved from Canada, which has 30 million 00:34:29.820 --> 00:34:32.760 people to Texas and it has 30 million people, 00:34:32.900 --> 00:34:35.219 the same amount of people live in Canada as in 00:34:35.219 --> 00:34:39.380 Texas. So when the economy was tanking in 09, 00:34:40.099 --> 00:34:42.559 I just say, you know what, I'm from Texas. I'll 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.179 move back to the state I'm from, and I'll give 00:34:45.179 --> 00:34:46.960 it a start over. There's more people here, but 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:48.360 it's still a struggle. You're still going to 00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:50.989 get up there and find those people. Where can 00:34:50.989 --> 00:34:53.710 people find you like people are like listening 00:34:53.710 --> 00:34:55.630 to this and they're like I really want to help 00:34:55.630 --> 00:35:00.769 Esther Esther ruggles What? How could they find 00:35:00.769 --> 00:35:05.809 you? Yeah, they can look on my massage website. 00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:09.289 So you just google Elements and bodywork and 00:35:09.289 --> 00:35:13.650 you can look online or if you go to Instagram, 00:35:13.650 --> 00:35:18.980 it's under elements and bodywork As well as facebook 00:35:18.980 --> 00:35:22.340 is elements and bodywork. I'm also on put that 00:35:22.340 --> 00:35:25.579 in and it's also Yeah, send me those links and 00:35:25.579 --> 00:35:28.260 we'll have them here in the description Underneath 00:35:28.260 --> 00:35:30.619 where everybody's watching this sound good. You 00:35:30.619 --> 00:35:32.900 can send me all those links to make sure that 00:35:32.900 --> 00:35:36.980 people can find you Yeah, sounds good. Yeah And 00:35:36.980 --> 00:35:38.880 thank you so much for having me on your podcast. 00:35:39.340 --> 00:35:40.900 I really am grateful for this. Oh, I'm great 00:35:40.900 --> 00:35:44.500 to meet you and Scout too. So, I mean, I hope 00:35:44.500 --> 00:35:46.820 that everything is going to work out. You know, 00:35:46.820 --> 00:35:49.880 I'm here for you. So if you ever need a friend, 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.880 just reach out. Like I know it's hard. Sounds 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.260 like you've got a bit of a plan here, at least 00:35:55.260 --> 00:35:58.139 realizing what you need to do that needs to change. 00:35:58.219 --> 00:36:00.480 You got to get out of that little town into a 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.559 market that's a little bit bigger and just have 00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.090 a fresh start over. where you don't have all 00:36:05.090 --> 00:36:08.429 this drama following you everywhere you go, because 00:36:08.429 --> 00:36:11.030 that's not fun. We want you to have a good life, 00:36:11.210 --> 00:36:13.969 Esther. We really do. And the blocks people, 00:36:14.130 --> 00:36:16.889 you know, there's 2 ,000 of us now. I'm sure 00:36:16.889 --> 00:36:19.050 there's some of those people that are in South 00:36:19.050 --> 00:36:23.610 Carolina that have naturopathic kind of ways 00:36:23.610 --> 00:36:26.269 you should meet up with them. Maybe that's one 00:36:26.269 --> 00:36:28.610 thing when you kind of like get your head clear. 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.960 and you can be making a plan as to what you need 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.420 to do is to reach back out to everybody in the 00:36:35.420 --> 00:36:37.820 Facebook and go, hey, how about South Carolina? 00:36:38.340 --> 00:36:41.400 We have less than one minute. It has really been 00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:43.739 good to meet with you. Is there one last thing 00:36:43.739 --> 00:36:47.679 you want to say? Just thank you so much for having 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.800 me on your podcast. And I'm so grateful. It was 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.400 so good to meet you. It was so good to meet you, 00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:55.679 Esther. See, your first step was just to reach 00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.219 out to me. But thank you for everything and thanks 00:36:58.219 --> 00:37:01.340 for being on your side hustle. So it is about 00:37:01.340 --> 00:37:04.800 the grit. So you got the grit. So just keep going, 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:06.500 girl. Thank you.