1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,480 Hi, this is Sugar Gay Yisra, and I am the host of Jolias Your Side Hustle. 2 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,240 And today we have a very special guest, Sarah Mizrahe. 3 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,280 And I am so excited. 4 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,920 I think she can say her name better than me, but she knows what I'm saying. 5 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,920 Sarah Mizrahe. 6 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,760 I'm going to get that little, ah. 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,760 But anyway, we're so glad to have her. 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,600 And it's a beautiful day today, and the sun is coming into her studio, and you can just 9 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,960 see the sun on her face. 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,840 So it's going to be a great little hour we're going to spend today. 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,080 And we're going to get to know about Sarah. 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,640 I'm so excited. 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Yay. 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,480 So Sarah, I'm in Austin, Texas. 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,480 Where are you? 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:05,800 I'm in Skokie, Illinois, some, like a little bit north of Chicago, or in the northern suburbs. 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,800 In the north. 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,800 Is it a beautiful day there? 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,800 Yeah, actually, it turned out to become quite beautiful. 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,800 It was like really cloudy this morning. 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,760 We have like a lot of heat and a lot of sun, and then it kind of flipped. 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:22,040 So like cooler weather, but not cold, just like mild and then just rainy and cloud. 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,600 So today it's, we have some sun again, which is really lovely. 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,520 Is it feeling like fall already there? 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,520 I don't know. 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,640 We had false fall, and then we had like second summer. 27 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:40,840 And then I think we're back into like fall, but possibly false fall, and then supposed 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,840 to get a little bit warmer again. 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,280 Well, it's a transition time, that's for sure. 30 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,480 You know, at least there's a lot of people in the US that are really suffering this week 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,480 with the hurricane. 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Yeah. 33 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,320 And for at least, I have to say I'm happy that I'm not there, but I'm sorry for those 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,320 people. 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,720 You know, my happens to be my oldest is very into meteorology. 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,600 She's eight, but she's been into it already for quite a long time, since around like two 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,600 or three, asking those questions. 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,160 So my in-laws are in Cincinnati. 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,840 They lost power over the weekend, but thankfully, other than some really, really, really, I mean, 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:23,920 it was like 70 mile per hour winds actually in some area, they luckily did okay. 41 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:28,200 And I've told her, because she's, she's curious about, she asks about tornadoes and things 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,200 like that. 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:34,640 I'm like, kiddo, we live thankfully where we live, we don't tend to get certain types 44 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:35,960 of weather tornadoes. 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,400 There have been like a few while we've lived here and she gets a little scared, but we 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,760 talk about it. 47 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,880 So she's, she's still very much into it. 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,160 She was talking to me about the hurricane. 49 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,520 And I told her, just be very thankful. 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:54,280 My in-laws are moving to Florida, although on the other side, but it terrifies me. 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,440 Like to be that close to that kind of weather. 52 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,560 Like, I don't love it. 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,560 I don't know what to say. 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,800 I would not move to Florida right now. 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,480 I mean, my parents are back in New York and we're in Brooklyn. 56 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,560 So we've gotten, I mean, thankfully, the most we got was really with Hurricane Sandy. 57 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,800 Otherwise, we tend to just get like the back end of things. 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,800 Right. 59 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,000 And I, I'm not as, I can't even, like I've seen people posting pictures and videos. 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,760 And I just, it does affect all of us. 61 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,760 Go great. 62 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,640 We'll be there, but also your heart breaks because you want to be able to help or do 63 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:35,120 something and other than like donating money, I just, yeah. 64 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,120 Not much we can do. 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,120 What are you supposed to do? 66 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,120 Yeah. 67 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,120 Let's talk about you. 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,520 Tell us about your journey and how you got started. 69 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,960 So, so you have three children. 70 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:46,960 Yeah. 71 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,160 And you're working in your home studio down in your basement room, a room that you garbed 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,160 out. 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,840 But tell me about how you got started. 74 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,560 Like, how did this whole jewelry thing begin? 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,760 Because it's like in you when you, when you're a creator, you got to create. 76 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,480 Did you do anything before? 77 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:10,560 So this has kind of been my thing for like a good 30 years of my life. 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,840 I started as a little kid. 79 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,040 And then I was just making stuff like for my mom and she would always love it and wear 80 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,040 it. 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,800 And I was very good with colors and patterns. 82 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,160 Even then, although I didn't realize it at the time. 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,520 And then, you know, some years past, I'm still just my thing. 84 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:35,480 And at 13, my best friend had come over and it was one of those like rainy, yucky days 85 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,920 and we're like, what are we going to do? 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,000 My mom took us to Fabric Bonanza, that was the name of the store. 87 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,920 It's been gone for a long time now and picked out like some clay beads and some wire and 88 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,400 things like that. 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,760 And we were making stuff and I made a necklace. 90 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,840 I vaguely remember what it looks like. 91 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:57,400 It was like this burgundy and black or like purplish and black. 92 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:06,240 It's like a flower clay bead with maybe some crystals and some like pewter beads or something. 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,680 But she has such a strong reaction to it. 94 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:17,200 She was like, I mean, I mean, when we were 13, she was like amazed by it. 95 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,640 And I was like, something clicked in my hand. 96 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,480 I'm like, oh, I can do this for more than just my mom. 97 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,200 This is something that I can do. 98 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,880 And I started selling, my mom helped me. 99 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:36,960 I started selling in like the local bingo halls, you know, like the old movie theaters. 100 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,760 I just turned into bingo halls. 101 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,800 I had like, you know, like $5 things. 102 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,240 And I started, you know, just slowly from there, I started working towards like using 103 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,520 Serovsky crystal, which I'm so upset that they don't make anymore. 104 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,520 Me too. 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,240 Although I don't really use them so much. 106 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,280 So like, I kind of just like have them in my containers and I'm just like, I use them 107 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:00,800 sparingly or like when my kids open up. 108 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,400 And they'll be like, I see for them to use those. 109 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,760 And I started using glass seed beads. 110 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,440 And this was like around like 15. 111 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,800 I was doing a lot of like, I started using like all these small tiny things doing and 112 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,320 I would start using like barrel clasps. 113 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,680 So I started teaching myself how to create like the loops and other things to keep them 114 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,400 closed and crimps. 115 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,200 And so I was just kind of that whole time really just self taught. 116 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:36,400 And then by the time I got to 17, I started really looking into like Cobble Hill Park 117 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,400 slope, like the areas that are like artsy fartsy in Brooklyn. 118 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,080 So it wasn't where like the local places anymore. 119 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:50,200 It was a little bit, I had to just get out of that zone to where really where the population 120 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:56,760 was that was a little more appreciative of the handmade item. 121 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:02,880 And so I started there finding like those big annual markets to do. 122 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,600 I was, I went to FIT at that Affession Institute of Technology, but in the meantime, I was 123 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,160 still kind of doing my own thing. 124 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,040 Even after that, like maybe a couple of other skills, but still really just all the ones 125 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,000 that I've taught myself. 126 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:24,000 And basically at 18-ish, as soon as I could, I filed like for my business license, like 127 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,200 I got the bank account set up, just making it official. 128 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,440 That way I can get like the wholesale tax ID and everything. 129 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,320 And I just wanted to get it started. 130 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,960 Like I just wanted to do it. 131 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,000 So I just kept on doing my own thing, finding these markets. 132 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Although at the same time, at some point, I also started working in early childhood as 133 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,040 an aid and then an assistant. 134 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:54,720 So like I was also getting my craft out at that, at like on that side too, and I loved 135 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,080 to do all that stuff. 136 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,320 But jewelry was still happening, like even through that. 137 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:07,560 And I was still doing markets on Sundays and doing like girls night out things and whatever 138 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,400 I could do. 139 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,200 And then I was, it was 2008. 140 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:22,000 So I was 22 and I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer. 141 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,840 So I kind of had to switch gears because I liked making like what you have, like these 142 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,440 big statement pieces. 143 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,760 And I would wear them all the time, but like they were shorter, but like these just like 144 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,040 using like gemstones and sterling at that point, gold fill, but like these, I like to 145 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,240 make like these big statement pieces. 146 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,560 And at that point after I had had my surgery, even now, it's still just very sensitive. 147 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:49,600 I mean, you could see the scar still, but it's very sensitive. 148 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,520 So I really can't put too much weight on it. 149 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:58,160 And I'm like, you know, I got, I kind of just internally started changing the way I started 150 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,600 designing. 151 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:05,800 So instead of making these big heavier pieces, kind of taking the elements that I wanted 152 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,820 and then creating a simpler look out of them. 153 00:09:08,820 --> 00:09:11,440 So instead be like more pendants and earrings. 154 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,320 I still love to make earrings. 155 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,880 Those are my favorite things to make. 156 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,560 But kind of like just taking those elements that I wanted, the colors, the metals, the 157 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:24,400 look that I wanted to give, like the textures and the shapes and just create something simpler 158 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,600 out of it. 159 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,320 So something that I still have trouble wearing certain things like certain chains can kind 160 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,240 of be a little bit uncomfortable, but I'll wear them here and there and also either 161 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,160 only my kids and my youngest will pull it right off. 162 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,880 So I really bothered unless I'm going out. 163 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,280 But it was an easier way for me to be able to like picture wearing something. 164 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,800 And it was easier to relate to. 165 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,960 So I started making more of these like simple statement pieces instead of these big, huge 166 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,960 collars. 167 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,480 I had finally gotten my ears pierced at like 20-ish. 168 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:06,520 So I was also able like I would design these, I love long earrings, although I'm not wearing 169 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:14,160 any right now, but I really started getting into that aspect of like just evolving with 170 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,840 between like that. 171 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,560 And then there was the recession earlier that year in 2008. 172 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:29,000 So like it was kind of like this multiple scenario situation that really like geared 173 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:34,720 me towards changing what I was doing and making something that was just a little bit more relatable 174 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:35,720 for me. 175 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,720 And I felt in the end actually more relatable to my customer. 176 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:44,280 So I think it was easier to be able to wear something that maybe you could also layer 177 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,880 a little bit more. 178 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:53,280 But that was how I kind of switched into what I've been doing since then and getting into 179 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,760 brass, like loving these geometric brass. 180 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:03,960 Like I love mixing like those, these hard angles with like softer gemstone shapes. 181 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:09,920 So yeah, it's always been a part of my life in the last year-ish. 182 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:17,000 Been like diving really deeper into all aspects of business, not just, you know, the fun stuff, 183 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,720 but really having to make like harder decisions and be like, okay, do you really need to buy 184 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:22,720 this supply? 185 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,040 Do you really need to make a new design? 186 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:31,240 You know, really have to meet yourself, do things you necessarily want to do. 187 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,640 But I've been enjoying you all the same and teaching myself new skills. 188 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,480 I mean, you're an artist from birth. 189 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,040 Like that's just how you are. 190 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,040 It came out. 191 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,720 You're an entrepreneur from birth. 192 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,600 Not everybody has these skills. 193 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,080 Like it's just what we are. 194 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,480 Like I know I'm just like you. 195 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,320 I was born an artist. 196 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:56,040 So whatever it takes, I put every penny I've ever made back into my art and to my craft 197 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,680 and getting better and better and better and better and better and changing it all up all 198 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:01,760 the time and learning new things. 199 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,080 It's totally self-taught just like you. 200 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,920 So I appreciate what you do. 201 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,160 I really do. 202 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:14,120 And then having three kids and surviving cancer, you know, that was, that's a really big deal. 203 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:20,000 So all these things affect us and we put all that back into our jewelry and it does change 204 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,520 our, what our product is for sure. 205 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,880 Something happens and so we're changing it up. 206 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,760 Yeah, it was different. 207 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,840 It was like this change of perspective. 208 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,280 Like I really enjoy the way I've evolved. 209 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,000 Like it was really something I taught. 210 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,720 I had to learn so much and also really have to be like self-aware. 211 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,760 You really have to accept certain things. 212 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,800 Like if someone gives you some kind of criticism, like you have to listen to it and understand 213 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:48,800 why. 214 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,400 I definitely had some interesting reactions to pieces. 215 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Like there are people who insisted, like, and I was honest, I would always be honest. 216 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,680 Like if something was glass, I'll tell them it's glass. 217 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:03,160 Yeah, something insisting that it wasn't even glass, that it was actual stone. 218 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,920 And I'm like, why would I tell you that it was glass instead of stone if I wanted to 219 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,920 sell it, like, you know, maybe get a different reaction for something that's glass versus 220 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:14,920 stone, but whatever. 221 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:20,040 And, you know, you get all these different kinds of reactions and feedback and you also 222 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,600 have to listen to it. 223 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Some of it can certainly write off and other things that, you know, you get some really 224 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,200 good ideas. 225 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:35,200 I noticed I, you know, could see an outfit and I get inspired by a pattern I find or 226 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,920 I really love to dress people. 227 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,640 I have been doing these fashion mood boards. 228 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,560 Like I really, really, really, really, really love to be able to pick out an outfit and 229 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:45,280 help somebody accessorize. 230 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,920 I like to do that at markets too. 231 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:53,680 Like I ask questions like what typical color, like if it's earrings, what length, what 232 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:57,680 usual shapes, because you know, there are, there are studs, there are hoops, there are 233 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,440 dangles of all different shapes and sizes. 234 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,200 So I'd like to ask questions, you know, try to get an answer to show them that I'm trying 235 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,680 to help, not necessarily push, but then I'm trying to help so I can maybe even help them 236 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:13,640 have a better idea of what it is they're looking for. 237 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,800 Because it's happened, you know, they didn't necessarily think about something until I 238 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,960 mentioned it. 239 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,240 So I'm glad to be able to be that person, but it's all these different perspectives 240 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,240 that come in. 241 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,480 And I think even asking them like what is your day job? 242 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Because if they're a daycare worker, they're not going to be wearing dangling earrings 243 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,120 like that. 244 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:37,240 And if they're, we are going to an office every day, that black dress that they've been wearing 245 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,160 all the time, and now they'll look better with a beautiful necklace or an earring or 246 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,160 something like that. 247 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,880 And that kind of helps the, for them to understand where they're going to, where, where this 248 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,360 piece is going to be worn. 249 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,760 They just kind of jerk up Sunday. 250 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,520 Like is it just fancy dinners? 251 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,520 Is it a ball? 252 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,400 Like all those kind of things, I think they always come into play. 253 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,520 I think those are really good questions to have. 254 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,280 Just also just keeps the conversation going and connects you to them. 255 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,280 Right? 256 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,280 Yeah, for sure. 257 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,840 And that's the way they kind of get an understanding of, of your aesthetic too. 258 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,280 And then you get an idea of something that maybe they're even dreaming about and you 259 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,480 can help them, you can help them make that happen. 260 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,960 So I love custom orders. 261 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,640 So for me, that's always fun. 262 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:25,400 I like to be able to work back and forth and I find out I have a someone actually who's 263 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:30,440 been a customer of mine since like 2008 or someone she found me in Brooklyn and we're 264 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,000 both in different parts of the country than we both were in New York. 265 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,240 But like we've collaborated a few times and like, you know, even if I have to restring 266 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:44,800 something or, you know, if it takes an extra few minutes of my time, I like that process 267 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:52,160 because in the end also like it helps me learn something and it also makes them happy. 268 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,400 I think that every time I make a piece of jewelry, I'm learning something. 269 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,480 I mean, I don't care if I've made 10,000 hearings, which I probably have. 270 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,320 Still today I made some for a customer. 271 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,640 It was a freebie to go along with a bracelet that she'd ordered. 272 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:12,200 And I just, I like to do that because it doesn't take very long to put six beads together. 273 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:18,280 But I always am like, yeah, I'm always, I'm checking every little part of it. 274 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:25,040 And that's from years of experience, just making earrings, like three stone earrings. 275 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,200 Making sure that like the loops are closed. 276 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,200 Yes. 277 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,200 Make sure it's straight. 278 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:34,400 There's no little rough edges, making sure the top is all, I don't know. 279 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,400 I get it. 280 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,000 Like it's something that people don't understand. 281 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,800 That's that artisan part of us that we're, we want our clients. 282 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,800 I don't call them customers. 283 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:50,600 I say they're my clients because I want that relationship with it, a long-term relationship 284 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,600 with them. 285 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,600 They're not just a customer where they walk into Walmart, but a client is somebody working 286 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,440 on repeat, right? 287 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,520 I'm just, I'm talking while you're coughing because I can see your coughing. 288 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:08,680 But I definitely try really hard to make the clients really happy, like crazy how hard 289 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,000 I work for the customers and clients that I do have. 290 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,920 And where do you sell your jewelry now? 291 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:21,440 Because that's also part of the development of an artist is how have things gone? 292 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,880 Where are you and how are those? 293 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,320 Like until you're choking, choking girl, like cough it up, cough it up. 294 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,320 I don't know. 295 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,320 I got a tickle in my throat and that's the end. 296 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,320 I know how that is. 297 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,320 Yeah. 298 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,320 Water went through my mouth. 299 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,720 I have, so I have a home site. 300 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,720 I have a Nazi site. 301 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,720 And what's the name of this? 302 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,720 What's the name of this? 303 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,320 Let's talk about your name. 304 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:53,600 And then I'm in about 15 stores, mostly like local in Illinois. 305 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,200 And then a couple in Georgia, in New Florida. 306 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,200 Wow. 307 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,200 So you're really all out of that you cough for a second while you catch your breath. 308 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,760 I don't know if you need it in your own water. 309 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,760 It's okay. 310 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:05,760 Just take a breath. 311 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:06,760 It's not right when it don't force it. 312 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,760 No big rush. 313 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,280 Like 15 stores is a lot of stores. 314 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,360 So you're doing really well. 315 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:18,960 And I definitely want to hear about what your Etsy shop name is and also what your great 316 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:19,960 handle is. 317 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,240 And also where we connected like I think it was on a... 318 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,240 The artisan group. 319 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,240 The artisan group. 320 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,240 Yeah. 321 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,240 Artisan group. 322 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,160 I wish I knew about so long ago. 323 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:38,960 I used to like, I don't know, like I was still young, like younger, like around 20. 324 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:45,640 Like I was approached by this random PR group. 325 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:50,880 And like I had the money like for myself at the time. 326 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,000 So I was like, you know, okay, let's just do this. 327 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,040 But like at the end of the day, when I look back at it, like it kind of helped shape like 328 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,040 my brand name and some other things. 329 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,120 But like, oh my gosh, I wish I knew about the artisan group because they helped, they've 330 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:10,560 done so much more for me than I was doing with that PR group. 331 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,880 So it was kind of like I'm so much money. 332 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,240 I'm going to let you cough for a second and I'll just kind of fill in a little blank here. 333 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:25,720 But you know, I think when I joined the artisan group, it was really to connect with celebrities. 334 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,720 Isn't that right? 335 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:34,000 And then I haven't really gone through them for anything, but I have done a lot of movie 336 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,640 things. 337 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,360 And so it's just kind of like, if you kind of get that in your mind, like that's kind 338 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:40,360 of what I want. 339 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:46,040 Like kind of like something that you can make happen, I'm making a piece right now for one 340 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,000 of the Black Panther actresses. 341 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,560 And I sent it along with a little bracelet and blah, blah, blah. 342 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,120 So I'm actually going to remake it, change it up a little bit, make it a little bit smaller 343 00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,760 for it because it's a little actresses. 344 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,120 It's so tiny. 345 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:02,800 And are you feeling better? 346 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,080 And are you struggling there? 347 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,840 And I felt bad for you. 348 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,880 So yeah, but the artisan group is a great group. 349 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,080 Are you affiliated with any other groups? 350 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,160 Because you know, there's a lot of groups out there. 351 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,040 Not like with PR strictly. 352 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:26,840 I mean, my goal is honestly to be like approached, at least like with the artisan side of things. 353 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Like I would love to be approached by a costume designer that wants to order something or 354 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,360 like have something specially made. 355 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:37,320 Like 100%, like that's a goal for me. 356 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,880 Yeah, what is the names of your Etsy shop? 357 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,880 Let's talk about the job. 358 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,200 Everything is the same, so it makes it very easy. 359 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,880 It's Sarah Sellers jewelry. 360 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,080 So that way, I mean, even Twitter, but honestly, I really don't do anything on Twitter. 361 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,720 I used to. 362 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:02,800 But then for some reason I got locked out of my own account and it just disappeared. 363 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:08,360 So I started another one, but I really don't do anything on it because also when it used 364 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,160 to be part of Meta. 365 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,320 So like in the briefing on Instagram would go there. 366 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,120 So I think it's locked in. 367 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:17,520 It's all about money really. 368 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:24,120 Yeah, so I have it's on Facebook, Instagram, and I actually couldn't I figure out how to 369 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:25,960 connect Pinterest and Instagram. 370 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,360 That's a new thing. 371 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:32,920 So that way my Pinterest is like back to being active instead of like once every six months. 372 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,760 So like on there, it's like we're jewelry creators. 373 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,560 We have to be content creators. 374 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,560 Yes. 375 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,560 Oh yeah, 100%. 376 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,880 Like you have to think of so many different aspects. 377 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,960 Like you have to, you know, you have to show up. 378 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:44,960 You have to show your face. 379 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,920 You have to talk about yourself. 380 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:52,360 And then you have to like, you know, if you show things being worn and how to wear it. 381 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:57,240 And then if you have that press, like celebrity, whatever kind of press to bring that up also 382 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:03,040 and try to do the best that you can to get that, get that out there. 383 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,080 I mean, with when it comes to like TV and movies, it's like you're always crossing your 384 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,760 fingers and hoping because you never know. 385 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:14,040 And then like what, what's happened to all the pieces that we've sent over the years? 386 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,120 Like where are they now? 387 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:16,120 I have no idea. 388 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:21,160 And then you maybe one day like that's happened before in the group where someone's wearing 389 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,040 something on a completely different show and you're like, okay. 390 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Oh, the costume designer happened to me. 391 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,000 You put it on something else. 392 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Yeah. 393 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Yeah. 394 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,520 I mean, it happened to me with one of my bracelets I had sent for a movie and then it was on, 395 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:43,240 it was an Apple TV show, Amber, Amber Brown or something like that. 396 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,240 But I don't know. 397 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,240 I didn't expect. 398 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,240 I was like, all right, fine. 399 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:52,280 But it's just, I'm very curious to know where in earth my pieces are that, that like that 400 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,280 were worn and that weren't worn. 401 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,080 I kind of think, I think it's interesting because I love ancient jewelry and I love looking 402 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,680 to see what they've dug up, you know, from ancient times. 403 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,880 And I kind of wonder if all of these creations, I don't even know how many things I've created 404 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:15,160 since I was, like you said, early on, like I was early into this as a very young child 405 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:21,000 and creating not just jewelry, but all kinds of art and like where, what will happen to 406 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:27,400 these pieces as eons go and all of those things that I have sent all around the world. 407 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:33,000 Like, you know, I kind of wonder like somebody, they're going to dig this stuff up and go, 408 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000 what? 409 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,680 Yeah, I mean, I've, I, my earrings were worn on this is us. 410 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,400 And that's going to be like five years ago almost to zoo. 411 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,040 I remember it was in February of 2020. 412 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,640 And I mean, I've sold them all over the world at this one, like I've sold them to Tokyo 413 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,400 all over the UK. 414 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,000 I sent actually to Australia. 415 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,120 So that was, that was amazing. 416 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:00,120 Yeah. 417 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:04,640 So it's like, it's really interesting, like that many years later, people are still, I 418 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:10,920 mean, obviously the show is also now a Netflix so people can watch it and are finding it 419 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,560 again or rewatching it. 420 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,440 And I like sold it to all these different places. 421 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:20,000 And like I wonder, like in all that time, the original earrings, like, where are they 422 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,000 now? 423 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,400 It's like, you know, but I love that I've sent them everywhere. 424 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,600 You have any pieces that are right there where you are, where you're sitting? 425 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,600 So you can show us. 426 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,720 I was actually, so I've been building some, I've been building some stock and then I 427 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:39,760 always try to go through things to be like, okay, what can I just like kind of keep around 428 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:47,400 for like store purposes that I don't do, I do mixture of like the wholesale styles where 429 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,360 I make multiples and then I do like small batch and then I have pieces that are like 430 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:56,120 one ox. 431 00:24:56,120 --> 00:25:00,920 So I try to do like a whole mixture because I feel like it also stunts my creative process 432 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,200 too much if I only do the same things over and over again. 433 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,720 So let's see, I have this really cool bar necklace. 434 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,800 Put your hand behind that so we can see it. 435 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:11,800 Put your hand behind it. 436 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,800 That's good though. 437 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,800 Okay. 438 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,800 Oh, what is that made of? 439 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,800 It's beautiful. 440 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,920 So that's all brass. 441 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,480 I've been working a lot with brass because it's technically a hyperallergenic material 442 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,600 and it ages beautifully. 443 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,640 So becomes like, I mean, you can polish it, but it becomes like this really nice, bronzy-ish, 444 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,640 rustic color. 445 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,360 So I've been loving to work with it a lot. 446 00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:41,040 And it's fun because over time, I collected all the shapes and I'm like, oh, that's cool. 447 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,200 And then not really necessarily always knowing what to do with it. 448 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,800 So a piece like this comes around where I have these V shapes that didn't really work 449 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:57,480 for too much, but then making these bib necklaces, because they thread onto the vault chain, 450 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,120 I was like, oh, that's really super cool. 451 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:05,760 I have done when we have that aha moment, like, oh, look at this. 452 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,760 This is great. 453 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,200 And like, along this similar style, I had actually gifted these to the artists in group 454 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,200 to Zoe Kravitz. 455 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,200 Those are beautiful. 456 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,080 And I was almost, I really hope that when the Batman movie had come out, like these were 457 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,080 so Selena and she did. 458 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,960 I mean, I don't know how ever they chose her, you know, chose what she wear, but like, 459 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,240 I was so hoping for some reason I was going to see these on her, because it would have 460 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,360 been so perfect with her character. 461 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:37,200 But I want to take a picture of these because they're just really, really cool. 462 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,760 And I love that that there's something that I've still been selling since then, too. 463 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,800 Yeah, they're beautiful. 464 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,760 And they're, and they're not like so, they look heavier than they are. 465 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:54,360 Which I also adorable actress, I think she said, like lightweight. 466 00:26:54,360 --> 00:27:00,600 But don't look lightweight and then I've been working on it, so I love florals and I do, 467 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,640 I do a lot of floral work. 468 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,640 Kind of getting like holiday inspired. 469 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,360 So these, if you can't tell, so I have to get some better lighting up. 470 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:14,800 But these are chrome diopsoin on the bombs for that, like nice forest green. 471 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,360 And then there's a freshwater pearl inside each flower. 472 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:19,640 Oh, those are beautiful. 473 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:25,800 A little bit of green in between, and it's spaces beautifully. 474 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,280 Those are beautiful holiday. 475 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,280 Or a theme where. 476 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:38,200 Kind of like, I've been trying to get, I don't usually do like strictly holiday or seasonal 477 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,800 trends I usually pick from what I have. 478 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,320 And where are those earrings available? 479 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,600 So these I just mean, I actually still have to photograph them. 480 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:56,600 These I'm probably going to put up on Etsy and my home site versus wholesale because 481 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,120 these, I mean, at least like the chrome diopsoid part of it, those are a little bit more of 482 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:07,880 a one off like stone availability. 483 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,600 But I think I'm going to put them on my home site and Etsy. 484 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:17,400 And I have, I can make like one or two more of those, but that would be like very limited 485 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,400 in there. 486 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,960 Get it now. 487 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,800 So these, I mean, they're just, they're just super, I love the way they move. 488 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:32,800 I actually had made one that was, it was just white pearl, but I didn't have them segmented. 489 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,360 I just had it all in a row and I usually don't do that. 490 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:39,600 But I kind of liked having something that was a little bit different from what I usually 491 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,600 do. 492 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,600 Those are beautiful. 493 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,880 So these just, they're just super pretty. 494 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,320 The right length and they have a lot of movement. 495 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,600 And I tell people that there are people who come to me like, Oh, I have short hair. 496 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,160 I can't pull off long earrings. 497 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,200 I'm like, boy, your neck is showing. 498 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,480 Show off your neck. 499 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,520 Like you don't have to do that. 500 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Like you don't have to feel as if, you know, you're bringing too much attention. 501 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,920 Like that's the whole point. 502 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,920 You have a short hair. 503 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,920 Your hair is up. 504 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,760 Like mine is like pretty much every day. 505 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,760 Yeah. 506 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,880 I had told her, but there's something that I tell my customers. 507 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:19,320 It was like Faber J when he was making things for the Zarenes and all the, you know, back 508 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,320 in the way, way, way back times that he was making things with movement. 509 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,520 Like the TRs would have a little trimmer. 510 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,520 Honestly, it was, yes. 511 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Cross the room. 512 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,520 That trimmer was noticed. 513 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:36,120 And it's the movement of the jewelry and the catching of light that really sets shimmer, 514 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,040 shimmer, shake, shake that catches the fish. 515 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,600 You know, it's not just a fishing lure. 516 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,320 It's, they put the little spinner on there to get that extra light. 517 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,960 Because we're still primal in the end of the day. 518 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,960 Yes, we are. 519 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,960 We are. 520 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,960 And you know why we like sparkle? 521 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:56,480 This is another thing that people don't realize because sparkle and our prehistoric men DNA 522 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,600 was meant that there was water. 523 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,520 They could see, oh, there was a sparkle somewhere in the distance. 524 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,200 Ah, there's water. 525 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,520 And so that water was something that we always gravitated for. 526 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,200 And so sparkle is really because of the water. 527 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,560 I feel like also a light source. 528 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,360 So yeah, no matter what, it's just part of survival. 529 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,360 Yeah, right. 530 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:21,640 Isn't it amazing how that is so primal in us and even wearing jewelry. 531 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,360 It's earliest times, 3,000 years ago. 532 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:31,360 I love ancient Egyptian, especially that was like one of the earliest things I was inspired 533 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,640 by was ancient Egyptian art and jewelry. 534 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,920 My mom is very into Japanese art and she would take me and my brother to the museums all 535 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,920 the time. 536 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,440 We would just go and enjoy it ourselves. 537 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,760 And I would love, I always love going to the ancient Egyptian, anything ancient Egyptian. 538 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:54,600 I'm not really into like English or Victorian, except for the jewelry and maybe glassware 539 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,000 and costume, not into like art. 540 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,800 But I love ancient Egyptian. 541 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:08,520 It's amazing how it's just so relevant even today, even though it was 4,000 years ago, 542 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,880 like 4,000 years ago. 543 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,640 And how, and the other thing that's interesting is how I think this is interesting anyways, 544 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,880 that during those time periods, which was over a long period of time, like a thousand 545 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,040 years, they really didn't vary from their theme. 546 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600 Like this is the thing, everybody stick to it. 547 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,800 This is what we have available. 548 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,800 Everybody go. 549 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,440 But it was amazing, the fact that they were able to make such things with like, we have 550 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,280 lasers and electricity. 551 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,280 Exactly. 552 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,920 And to be able to do what they did by hand. 553 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,320 I mean, it's insane. 554 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,320 It is insane. 555 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,320 The mill work. 556 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,800 I mean, it's crazy. 557 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,080 Well, you think about back in the Stone Age when they were making jewelry and they were 558 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,480 wearing jewelry and what, rocks, horn, sticks. 559 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,480 That's all they got. 560 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:02,080 You know, it's take a take an ostrich egg and beat it to death, which is not an easy 561 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,920 thing by the way. 562 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:10,560 And for me, I have to like take a tile cutter, you know, like sauce, like cut it on, it's 563 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,040 just like, and then a drill. 564 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,640 It's a lot of work even with the hand tools. 565 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,760 But then they didn't have TVs and they had a lot of time and they were very inspired 566 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,080 because they were born artists too. 567 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,600 We're the exactly the same people. 568 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:31,120 Just we're just different time and they're making beautiful things way back then. 569 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,720 And I collect those resources because I love to go back and and kind of even they inspire 570 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,720 me to make things. 571 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,120 I have, I still collect books. 572 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,560 There was a newer one that I got, but it's I packed some stuff away for that way when 573 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,200 I can get ready for everything to be renovated. 574 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,320 But I collect here and there. 575 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,560 I'll go like if there's a like a special exhibit, I'll definitely get the books or just in general 576 00:32:54,560 --> 00:33:00,440 if I find something in like a half price books or one of those places and just pick something 577 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,560 up and I, you know, like, why not? 578 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,160 It's always it's constant inspiration. 579 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,560 It's also a history lesson. 580 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,560 Yes, definitely. 581 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,680 I'm totally about that history lesson. 582 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,080 I love the history of that. 583 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,840 I just made a piece that was kind of a copy. 584 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,720 I'm not, you know, I can't like copy it exactly. 585 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:27,800 I had beads from like the sixties, which looked like the beads that were from 4000 years ago, 586 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,400 but it was made out of jet and the Celtic necklace. 587 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,960 That's not easy to get. 588 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Yeah. 589 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,560 So but these, these weren't, but the shape was the same and the size was about the same. 590 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,040 I'm like, oh, wait a second. 591 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,240 I have those beads I've never used and I've been hanging on to them for, I don't know, 592 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,880 I've had them more than 15 years now. 593 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,680 I'm like, I know what I'm going to make with them. 594 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,880 I'm going to recreate this necklace, this photo that's coming up. 595 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:59,000 But and, and there was a little tricky because the way it was constructed, I don't know exactly 596 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,480 how it was constructed because you can't really see that, but there was no findings 597 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,720 at all that were visible. 598 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,240 So I had to kind of like think that through. 599 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:12,160 I'm going to make this and make this where it's like super. 600 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,160 Like a hidden hook. 601 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:22,320 It was more about like stringing multiple strings and then I had epoxy clay, little 602 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,480 tabs and then more of the things and then tabs and then it was how the necklace. 603 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:33,280 Yeah, it was some Celtic woman more, you know, 4,000 years ago. 604 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,160 And and so I don't know how they put it all together. 605 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,160 I have no idea. 606 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,480 You cannot see the construction of it, but I had to come up with a way. 607 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,480 I did. 608 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:48,120 And I was using epoxy clay and then that really kind of mimicked the look of the jet. 609 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,720 So that was pretty good too. 610 00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:50,720 It all worked. 611 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:51,720 It's okay. 612 00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:52,720 It's a bit better. 613 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:56,040 You know, if I go back, it's been a lot of time doing it, but I've got parts to go back 614 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,200 and do it in time. 615 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,480 My tray got a little cock-eyed and I kind of had it turned the wrong way. 616 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,840 And so I kind of have one side is kind of wearing a little bit. 617 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,800 Oh, you know, it's like that place. 618 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,800 That's it. 619 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,720 And it's like, ah, the scene, but just like that, we're learning. 620 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:11,720 That's right. 621 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,520 It is what it is. 622 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,920 You know, it's an artist statement. 623 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,760 It's, you know, these are pieces that can be hung on a wall. 624 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,040 They're not, you know, they're to be worn just like your things are all art. 625 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,040 They're art. 626 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,040 They're art. 627 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,360 I tell people, like when you're not wearing them, hang them on the wall. 628 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,480 Like hang, like you can take those earrings and hang them on a light fixture and have 629 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,480 that kind of thing. 630 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,480 Oh, and get this. 631 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,480 You only get that sparkle. 632 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,480 Yeah. 633 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,160 I think it's so important that our customers. 634 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,200 So where do you have coming up for Christmas? 635 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:49,680 We have what's going on in your life in the next, this is the Q4 and how is Q4 looking 636 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,680 for you? 637 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,120 Like what's your, what's your big takeaway from Q4 coming up? 638 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,360 Well, so I usually do. 639 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,640 I haven't done as many markets, which has been part of my goal not to do as many in-person 640 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,640 markets. 641 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,640 I agree. 642 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:08,920 Usually, usually I do one in December itself, but they take forever to let you know. 643 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,600 If you're doing it or not. 644 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,600 I agree. 645 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,880 So usually that one is the Chicago Artisan Market. 646 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,440 I've been doing it the last few years. 647 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,800 That's usually like a couple of weeks or so before Christmas. 648 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,000 I have, I don't know if you did, but I had gifted a couple of pieces to only murders 649 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,200 in the building, but that was only supposed to be like towards the last couple of episodes 650 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,400 by the time we were finally able to, to like have them have us. 651 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,040 So I'm very excited to see if anything gets worn. 652 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,480 So also, I mean, you never know that it's already been picked up for like at least one 653 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,480 or two more seasons. 654 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,480 Yeah. 655 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,320 So you never know now for everybody who gifted, if, you know, we get that chance. 656 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,320 So that would be really cool. 657 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:55,360 I had sent these brass chandelier earrings and which those are I think available on Etsy 658 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,760 and everything like everything that has been gifted. 659 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,800 I usually have it in the name or it's going to be, there's a picture or it can be asked 660 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,960 questions or I used, I have like some of that I have press pages. 661 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:15,760 So there was a pair of the, like these cool brass chandelier earrings and then I sent 662 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,280 a pair of pearl earrings. 663 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,000 I think I sent it in, I believe I sent in these. 664 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,600 So these actually have white Kasumi pearls. 665 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:30,240 They're from Australia and it's like a brass, it's a brass bar. 666 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:35,640 So it's like it's very modern and timeless, but also I feel like, I mean, at least if 667 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,920 you're talking about Celine Gomez's character, I feel like it's kind of upper alley where 668 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:46,640 she just feels like these mix, like it's like a mixture of times, the way she dresses. 669 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,080 So I love the costume designer. 670 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,960 So I did, I have that. 671 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:59,280 And then I don't know if there's what, there's the movie red one that's coming out in November 672 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:06,040 that's with Chris Evans and in the rock that a lot of us had gifted to, we're like that 673 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,120 Christmas movie that we'll see. 674 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,560 I mean, we'll see what happens with all of those. 675 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,600 And I don't know if we're going to have time to go to the theater to watch it. 676 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,840 So I'll have to get lucky that either somebody sees it or eventually when it comes out streaming 677 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,240 and then you have to watch it like five times, you know, really catch it because you never 678 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,240 know. 679 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,000 And it's an action movie. 680 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,280 So who knows. 681 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:37,120 But yeah, so I've been doing a lot of work just trying to expand like my like my store 682 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:43,480 outreach and trying to really get myself into other states. 683 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,240 So that's what I love to do, even though like I have local and I love local. 684 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:56,120 My goal for sure is to like pop up in like the Northwest and even back in the Northeast, 685 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,120 although Brooklyn is not not so easy. 686 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:04,920 They very much love artists, but it's not easy being an artist in Brooklyn. 687 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,680 But yeah, just trying to trying to spread myself out a bit. 688 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:15,960 I think that customers want to know that there's a little bit of gold shine on us. 689 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,720 It's like they're one connection away from something that also tells the story. 690 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:26,680 So when they're talking to people and people say, oh, I love those earrings, you know, 691 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,200 oh, yeah, they are the same earrings that were worn by blah, blah, blah. 692 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,440 And so that's kind of the reason why we do this. 693 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:39,360 I think it's, you know, it's just part of the kind of the show and tell of where we 694 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:46,840 are as artisans that, you know, that somebody else is likes our jewelry enough to be putting 695 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,440 it into a movie or a show like it does. 696 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,120 Yeah, you like that little bit of depth. 697 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,200 I mean, it shouldn't be everything that you are. 698 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,480 I guess like you should be able to like still express yourself in ways that it's like, oh, 699 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,720 I'm not just on this movie, that movie, this book, like you really showing your your work 700 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:08,560 as as as art. 701 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,360 But can people can people go to your website and see like a media page? 702 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,440 Is that how you yeah, I did have I have a press page. 703 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,320 Although because someone had done it for me, I don't know coding. 704 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:29,200 I have there's a press page and then basically referring to items and then you can search 705 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:35,960 like through the items and shop and then like you can see pieces that way. 706 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,600 And I'm not see I'm not see too. 707 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:44,240 I usually will try to have the first image as the image that, you know, if it was gifted 708 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:51,160 to a show, like, you know, a mock up with the show or, you know, keep things in the 709 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,640 name so people, you know, can find things. 710 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,800 The tax tags are yeah, so important for sure. 711 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:06,080 Yeah, well, I was working on I was in the hospital over the weekend, but I had SE orders 712 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,320 and I was contacting the people and letting them know. 713 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,960 We go off on Monday and then today when they go do the SE order and almost everything was 714 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,160 just like so hard. 715 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:20,320 It was like, oh my God, took me like three hours to just get everything together and 716 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,840 everything was just like hard. 717 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,880 It was like, I felt like I was upside down, but got to keep that algorithm going like 718 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,640 I don't care if you're near death. 719 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,760 I don't care if you're in a hospital for three days, get that order out of like it was done. 720 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:38,240 Like yeah, it's in that in the parking lot of the post office putting in my things. 721 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:43,200 And I took, I always take pictures of the package so they know what to expect. 722 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:48,800 Also documents for me and I document the receipt and send those to them and then you know, 723 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,200 it will note that says, you know, I love five star reviews and all that kind of stuff. 724 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,600 Like there's so much to the order. 725 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,480 I really love Etsy and I love what it does to us because it connects us to people all 726 00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,480 over. 727 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:05,320 But it being a really professional entrepreneur as a single person, you know, we don't have 728 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,680 teams of people working for us. 729 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,440 There's just so much to all this. 730 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,520 I hope that people appreciate it. 731 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,680 We love that their Etsy is really pushing towards gifting. 732 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,600 So I don't want to screw up my Etsy algorithm. 733 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,600 I want it to be good. 734 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:27,440 So I know I used to not, I honestly used to not really care until I put the, this is us 735 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:33,960 earrings on there to purposely just have them on Etsy, not just on my home site. 736 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:39,320 And once I started selling multiples of those, I'm like, well, I guess I'm going to just, 737 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,840 I might as well just really get back into Etsy. 738 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:47,280 Cause I was on there from when, when really like they started, but I just didn't really 739 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,280 do much with it. 740 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,240 Cause at the time I was, I don't know, I was working on my home site. 741 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:55,320 Like I felt like that mattered a lot more. 742 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,440 Cause I know like there are people who are like, oh Etsy is over saturated. 743 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,720 Like, yeah, it's all true. 744 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:05,240 And they definitely also have things that are not handmade, it's supposed to be handmade. 745 00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:06,240 True. 746 00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:10,000 But if you go on there and you know what you're doing, you can make it work for you. 747 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,000 So it just requires effort and time. 748 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,360 I also buy Etsy ads. 749 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,840 So I do do the click, pay per click ads. 750 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:26,760 That seems to kind of help and Shopify, I'm on Shopify and fair and blah, blah, blah, 751 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,760 blah, blah, like, you know, all that kind of stuff. 752 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,640 And it's like, it does really require money. 753 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,120 So I know that people that are listening, if you're just a shopper, do know that when 754 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,520 you're buying something from us, it's supporting all different parts of our brand. 755 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,520 It's the packaging that we have to pay for and the extra postage that we don't get to 756 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,160 recuperate and the pay for flicks that you found me. 757 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,680 And just, it takes a lot of time. 758 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,160 You make one, one pair of earrings that are like a one of nine and you still have to go 759 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,040 through all of the jargons. 760 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,040 Okay. 761 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,320 Because well, it's also like, when you package it, like also you're doing, if you do, you 762 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,240 know, your regular business card, then I have a couple of different postcards. 763 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:09,040 Like one is with the special discount and a thank you. 764 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,080 And then the other one is about like, you know, posting and tag and share and whatever. 765 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,480 And then, then it's also if you have special, you know, other types of packing materials, 766 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,360 you have special tissue papers, you have like the corrugated, crinkly paper, do you have 767 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:30,080 special boxes you put it in, special pouches, like every little thing that comes into it. 768 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,080 Everything. 769 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:36,600 Is there really, I would, if I would have not been a jewelry maker, I would be a lot 770 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,600 wealthier right now. 771 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,320 Because I definitely spent every penny. 772 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,960 And then today I'm like, oh, but I'm out of that bracelet form and I need to go and then 773 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,960 I'm like, oh, look at all this stuff that I need to buy. 774 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,760 And then it's like, stop, just hold on, wait. 775 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,480 If they do window shopping, like feel like, okay, add it to your cart. 776 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,480 Yeah, hold on. 777 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,320 You've done your shopping, but then walk away. 778 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,600 I'm the same way. 779 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,320 I never pushed that button until at least 24 hours. 780 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,480 Unless I know it's like 100% like that's my purpose, like I'm getting a specific chain 781 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,480 or whatever. 782 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,480 Like, yeah, but otherwise, oh, 100% it's like these special gemstones that I really want 783 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,480 to get. 784 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,280 And then okay, we'll have to wait. 785 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,680 Yeah, just put them in there and they're there and then it'll the next word. 786 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,800 And then for like a special reward. 787 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:22,800 Yeah. 788 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,840 Well, it has been great getting to know you. 789 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,000 I'm in Austin. 790 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,640 So if you ever need anything from me, I would really hope that you would reach out. 791 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,440 Like I am, I am a friend. 792 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,880 I tell everybody from now on, I am your friend forever. 793 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,560 And if you reach out, you see something on blah, blah, blah. 794 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,240 And you're like, oh, let's talk to sugar about that and see what she has. 795 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:49,640 Like I, I've been in this business for a really long time and I love being a friend. 796 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,520 And a mentor and helping and anything I can do to help you along the line. 797 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,640 Or if you just have a question, if you want to do a co-lab, like we can do all kinds of 798 00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,640 stuff together. 799 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,680 I'm your girl and you never have to explain yourself and just be like, Hey, it's Sarah 800 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,680 who's a rough lady. 801 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:06,680 It's a very big deal. 802 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,680 Yeah. 803 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,600 So that's what I love about the artist group. 804 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,920 Like everybody just can have like even okay, like I don't remember her name, but her necklace 805 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,360 like Steven X wore the necklace in the new, in her new music video. 806 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:25,480 I was like, but of course part of me is also like, Oh, I wish you was wearing my cuff that 807 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,080 I sent her, but like that's freaking insane. 808 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,080 That's incredible. 809 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,400 You know, it's like supporting somebody else as much as okay. 810 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,640 You want to be in their shoes to a degree, supporting somebody else no matter what lifts 811 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,640 you up to. 812 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,120 And can you never know, could help you get to that place too. 813 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,720 It's positivity I've learned in a hundred percent. 814 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:50,160 If you really just go in there and you keep having that negative thought pattern, you're 815 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,760 not going to go anywhere. 816 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,760 I agree. 817 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,600 Really like support and supporting others and it supports you too. 818 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,680 So the positivity goes a long way. 819 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,680 Yeah. 820 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,320 We are on the same page about that. 821 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,880 It's always good to lift other people up. 822 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,280 That makes us all feel good. 823 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,280 Like that's how you feel. 824 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,280 You're still feel better. 825 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,680 It's kind of lifting somebody else up. 826 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,240 So, and today it's been fun. 827 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:19,760 It's been jewelry as your side hustle with Sarah, Ms. Araje, and we have had a great 828 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,040 little hour and your daughter took a nap. 829 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,840 And I have to say, awesome. 830 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,640 Encourage your children to be artists. 831 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,600 My little three year old granddaughter who's been gifted jewelry since today. 832 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,000 She was born from her grandma. 833 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,480 She has some jewelry. 834 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,480 She can string those. 835 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,480 Yeah. 836 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,000 I think I'm going to be very into it too, or very into when I have a massive tub of 837 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,080 stuff that they will be allowed to get into in another couple of years. 838 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,080 Yeah. 839 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,480 I've kept a lot of stuff for them. 840 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,480 Yeah. 841 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,480 It's fun. 842 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,600 And it's fun that they get to see their mother being a creator because I think, you know, 843 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,680 that's a really good legacy. 844 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:04,840 They say that like where we come from, who we are now is like five generations back. 845 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,440 So it'd be my grandmother's grandmother was an artist. 846 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,800 And I know that my grandmother was an artist. 847 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,080 Well, she was a dress designer. 848 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:19,960 She was a, you know, she made clothes, fancy clothes for rich people in Texas. 849 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,200 So there had to have come. 850 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:28,840 I don't really know what her grandmother's story was, but it definitely, you know, it's 851 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,840 on both sides. 852 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,560 There was a lot of hand sewing and, you know, hand work. 853 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,880 And that's how I learned from my grandmother teaching me how to embroidery. 854 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:43,080 And that became jewelry, you know, sewing, kind of sewing jewelry beads onto jewelry 855 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,080 and things. 856 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,600 So, you know, it's all, it all, so your, your kids, they're, they're going to pass 857 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,600 that along forward in a big way. 858 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,320 So I really, I hope that you'll really help them and be encouraging them to. 859 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,320 Oh yeah. 860 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,960 We actually had a whole conversation just the other day about, about doing something 861 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:09,000 with yourself and, and like, so I want them to understand that you can have a skill. 862 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,880 If you want to make it your thing, let's go for it. 863 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,360 We're just, we're going to make sure we do it the right way, the supported way and, 864 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,560 you know, make it, make it work. 865 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,840 But you know, my oldest is eight, so she has time. 866 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,840 Yeah, yeah. 867 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,840 No pressure. 868 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:25,840 There's really no pressure. 869 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,840 I'm in tears. 870 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,840 It's opening doors and letting them explore. 871 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,760 That's a good thing. 872 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:38,440 Any last thoughts about what you'd like to share to our podcast listeners today? 873 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:44,120 Well, I like to say, like in my posts, like on Instagram, like part of them is like, I'm 874 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,120 here for you. 875 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:50,160 Because of course, like, yes, jewelry is not the first thing you need to have or always 876 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,360 want to have. 877 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,680 But you know, it can always help brighten your day a little bit. 878 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,840 I love to be able to help somebody find the thing that brings them that little bit of 879 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,840 joy. 880 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,640 And I love to be able to be a part of that. 881 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,680 And yeah. 882 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,960 And thank you to the Artisan Group for connecting us today. 883 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,960 Yeah. 884 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:09,960 That's okay. 885 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,840 We can say, we can say nice things about them. 886 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,560 They're a great, oh yeah, why not? 887 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,560 Yeah. 888 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,560 Great group. 889 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:21,360 Yeah, so please let's, let's get other people from that group to come join our podcast. 890 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,360 Read the word. 891 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,440 Well, not only that, if you're a creator and you haven't heard of the Artisan Group, go 892 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,840 look them up because they're always welcoming new members. 893 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,920 It's not where it's just closed off thing, we're a big community. 894 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,160 So if you want opportunities, go for it. 895 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,480 And we support each other. 896 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,120 So it's a great thing. 897 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:45,320 So okay, well, I hope you have a great rest of your day and I'm getting ready for fall. 898 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,960 And, and thank you for sharing your time with me today. 899 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:49,960 It was a lot of fun. 900 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,200 You're welcome and thank you. 901 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,200 I really have. 902 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,200 Especially my coughing. 903 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,200 Well, you, you didn't die. 904 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,200 Yay for that. 905 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:07,400 Okay, well thank you again and we will see you another time. 906 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,720 If you ever want to chat, you got something big you want to announce or you're like, 907 00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:14,560 Hey, I got this new movie in my minute. 908 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,360 Give me a jingle and let's chat about it. 909 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,360 Okay. 910 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,360 And have you back to it. 911 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,360 Okay. 912 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,360 All right. 913 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,360 Thank you again, Sarah. 914 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,360 Take care. 915 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,360 You too. 916 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,360 Bye.