1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,200 Hi, welcome to jewelry as your side hustle with Sugar Gay Isver and I'm Sugar Gay Isver 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,280 and I'm so glad we have a special guest today all the way from Anchorage, Alaska which I 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:18,120 can't wait to hear about how it is to live in our most northern state. 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,120 It's so exciting. 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,080 I have another friend there right now so I know a little bit about it. 6 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,840 So we're going to learn more and this is a jewelry design. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:30,480 She has lots of one-of-a-kind, very special, beautiful pieces and we're going to let her 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,000 talk about her process and how she got started and all of that. 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,560 So welcome to the show today. 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,560 Annie Suzak. 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,240 Suzak, I think I spelled it or said it right. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,240 Did I say it right? 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,240 It's all good. 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,240 It's all good. 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,240 Well, I know. 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,800 My name has a lot of variables to it too. 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,120 So I don't care. 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,280 You can just call me Sugar. 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,280 It's easy. 20 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,280 But welcome. 21 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:58,080 I'm so glad that you're here on my show today and I can't believe I finally get to talk to 22 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,960 you and we're like twins in with the glasses. 23 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:00,960 I know. 24 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,040 It's like we planned it. 25 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:09,680 So tell us about you and how to really say your name and give us a little update on what's 26 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,120 going on in Anchorage, Alaska today. 27 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,120 Well, fantastic. 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,400 Well, my name is Annie and I would say Annie like the orphan. 29 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,400 This way it's not like Emma, Inbley. 30 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,440 Yeah, so Annie like the orphan and the last name is CZAK. 31 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:30,080 It's Polish, which sure, let's have fun with all the S's and the Z's and the extra contents. 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,720 I am originally from South Buffalo, New York. 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,720 And I moved away. 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Right? 35 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:36,720 Yeah. 36 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,240 I was living with somebody today in Niagara on the US side, which is right there today. 37 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,240 Oh, funny. 38 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,240 Yeah. 39 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,200 That's like 15, 20 minutes away, if that. 40 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,360 I actually had a PO box in Buffalo. 41 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Because I lived across the border and going to Niagara Falls and get my mail. 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,880 That's funny because when I went to school in Buffalo, I was just a Buffalo State College, 43 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,440 we would cross the borders to Canada to go to the Canadian Ballet because you could drink 44 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,440 at 19. 45 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,720 I don't think that you're the first person that thought of that, honestly. 46 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,720 I don't think so. 47 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,280 There was definitely, you know, lots of cars in a row heading over. 48 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,280 We get creative. 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,160 I don't think that border guards have seen it all. 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,160 Oh, for sure. 51 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:27,240 And I was doing fun in the reverse because I was coming down from Canada and buying liquor 52 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,480 and then sneaking it over the border because it was so much less expensive and it's very 53 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,840 hard to justify those prices when you know, it's only like $10 in the US. 54 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,640 Why is it boardy here? 55 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:39,640 Exactly. 56 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:40,640 It's only in my car. 57 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:41,640 There's nothing here. 58 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:43,560 I don't know what you're talking about. 59 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,960 I've never done that at first. 60 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:46,960 I know. 61 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,360 We could really talk about that for a while. 62 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,640 How did you get to Anchorage? 63 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:58,920 So I followed a boy, which is, it's kind of, it's kind of a story up here. 64 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:04,480 Like you're either from here and you stay here or we tend to follow other people. 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,320 I didn't stay with that boy for very long, but obviously I stayed in Anchorage. 66 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,240 I've been here since 2004, which is crazy. 67 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,240 I know. 68 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,240 I've been coming up with my 20 year anniversary. 69 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,240 20 years. 70 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,240 Yeah. 71 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,240 That makes me feel really old. 72 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,240 Don't look at the grays. 73 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:26,240 But yeah, if you had told me when I moved that I would still be here, I would have said 74 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,240 you were nuts. 75 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:32,560 Just kind of in the same way that if you had told me that I was going to be a jewelry maker 76 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,240 for the rest of my life, I would have said that you were nuts. 77 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,480 So sometimes we just fall into things where we're meant to be and that's where it is and 78 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,480 that's great. 79 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Sometimes I really think things happen for a reason, which is fantastic. 80 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,280 Well, it really is beautiful up there. 81 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,080 I have a friend that's like from way past. 82 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,280 We've been, I've known her for 30 something years and she's a nurse right now in a little 83 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,200 town in Alaska and I follow her. 84 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,960 So I see how the night is really different. 85 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Like it's really cold there. 86 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Still, it's like still freezing and snowing. 87 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,480 What about you? 88 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,880 I think she's in Barstow, Alaska or something like that. 89 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,240 I'm not sure where that is. 90 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,880 There's lots of funky little awesome villages. 91 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Little tiny town. 92 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,480 Yeah, I'm not as well versus maybe I should be. 93 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,560 But we're finally seeing some signs of spring here. 94 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,120 My perennials are coming up. 95 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,080 I maybe pushed the garden in a little fast, but I couldn't wait anymore. 96 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,680 We had record snowfall this year, which was a lot. 97 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,400 Again, coming from Buffalo, I grew up with snow. 98 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,400 Yes. 99 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,400 Love it. 100 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Great. 101 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,600 So we almost broke the all-time record here in Anchorage for like the most snowfall ever. 102 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,080 And it was, I was over it. 103 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,080 I was done. 104 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,080 So like, yeah, let's go play this in the ground. 105 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,240 How many feet are we talking about? 106 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,640 Oh, feet, I don't know. 107 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:52,640 That's math. 108 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,640 120 or 130 some inches. 109 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,640 So divided by 12. 110 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Almost 10 feet. 111 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,640 So it was a lot. 112 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:57,640 Wow. 113 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,880 I mean, like buildings were collapsing. 114 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,040 People had to shovel their roofs. 115 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,120 It's how did you survive? 116 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,640 You did okay? 117 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:09,640 We did okay. 118 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,640 Yeah. 119 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,640 You know, we got to shovel our roof and that's always exciting. 120 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Said no one ever. 121 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,480 We had to fall off that roof. 122 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,480 What was that? 123 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,480 I'm sorry. 124 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,480 You can fall off that roof. 125 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,800 No, which is why my husband's not allowed to go up there because I'm very concerned. 126 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:25,800 That's what happened. 127 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:26,800 Yeah. 128 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,800 Nice. 129 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,800 Yeah. 130 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,360 So we don't see that. 131 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,760 But I'm a knitter as well. 132 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,520 I spend a lot of time knitting and just enjoying the cozyness of the place. 133 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:44,520 I saw your Outlander inspired piece and I was like, God's make them like, oh, I can 134 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,200 almost feel it on me. 135 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,720 It was so beautiful. 136 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,720 Thank you. 137 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,560 I love that show too. 138 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,040 I was like, hey, look at that. 139 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,040 It's pretty great. 140 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:59,280 And I went to Scotland with a friend several years ago and so we had to of course see one 141 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:04,480 of the big stone circles and I took the cowl and so we had to have this photo shoot with 142 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,640 the two of us to prove that like, look, Outlander, here, here it is. 143 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,640 We touched the stone. 144 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:10,640 The JB Fraser did not. 145 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,440 But you didn't go back in time. 146 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,440 We did not. 147 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,200 But I was ready with my cowl if it happened. 148 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,320 It didn't happen. 149 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,840 Well, we love that show. 150 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:23,600 So it has good meanings for us. 151 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,680 We're very much an Outlander family. 152 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:31,240 So I really did think that was a beautiful piece that you did and, you know, making the 153 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,160 effort and going over there and seeing those stones. 154 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,920 I watched another show last night and it had those same stones in it. 155 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,840 I'm like, okay, it's like a thing. 156 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:43,040 Like I got to go there and go see the animals. 157 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,040 Yeah. 158 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,200 Well, so do you have any kids or how has that worked? 159 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,640 How do you do? 160 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,360 I have some fur kids. 161 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,560 We have two dogs adopted from Turks and Caicos. 162 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,880 They're known as potcakes. 163 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,040 We have two frogs, which were just adopted out of our Buy Nothing group. 164 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,280 They don't do a whole lot, but that's Benson and Stabler. 165 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:05,280 So they entertain us. 166 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:07,680 Wait, do you have them in your house? 167 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,680 We do. 168 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,040 Yes, they're just little aquatic frogs. 169 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,640 They hang out and swim around. 170 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:20,600 So did they squeak a lot because we, I have a little froggery at our ranch and we, I get 171 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,240 so excited like, oh, there's a frog here and he's calling for somebody else and I can hear 172 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,240 her calling. 173 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,240 Like, do they do that? 174 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,520 And have an interesting little chirp chirp sound. 175 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,120 I haven't heard them, but we acquired them because a girl in the neighborhood, they were 176 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,600 her pets and apparently they were being pretty vocal. 177 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,480 It might, and the little girl couldn't sleep. 178 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,280 So they had to re-home these frogs because the kiddo couldn't sleep. 179 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,680 So I was like, well, I'll take them, but we're not, I mean, they're not next to my bed. 180 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:47,960 They think they were next to her bed. 181 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,720 So I haven't heard them, but they just sort of swim around and do their thing. 182 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,120 And then we have a cat which loves to watch the frogs. 183 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,960 So I think that, you know, they were meant for each other like here. 184 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,200 They were trying to help me for the day. 185 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,200 Yeah. 186 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Yeah. 187 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,200 Our frog is called Fred. 188 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,680 Does your frog, your friend has a, does your frogs have names? 189 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Yes. 190 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:07,680 Benson and Stapler. 191 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Okay. 192 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,880 Well, of course, we're a big part of this household. 193 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,600 Although if you, if you renamed them, they probably wouldn't mind. 194 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,960 I don't think they know. 195 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,560 In fact, I'm not sure if we have a male and a female or two males. 196 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,680 So I don't think they really care about what's going on in their lives. 197 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,360 You're the only person I know that loves frogs as much as me. 198 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,720 I love my little frogs. 199 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,200 In fact, we have a camera kind of on the frog pond. 200 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,000 And I turned it on the other night so my husband could just listen to little Fred talking 201 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,000 to him. 202 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,720 I'm like, look Fred's talking to you. 203 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,720 That's so funny. 204 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,720 I know. 205 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,880 It's actually funny that the camera actually picks up the sound. 206 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,280 They're like, yeah, it's kind of fun. 207 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,280 So yeah. 208 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,160 Well now let's talk about some jewelry because you make mostly one of a kind pieces. 209 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,160 Me too. 210 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,680 Like, you know, I can make how I made 9,000 nettles one time for Proctor and Gamble. 211 00:08:58,680 --> 00:08:59,680 I can do that. 212 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:00,680 Oh my God. 213 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:07,360 But it's the, it's because we're artists and we sit down and we just create, but you, 214 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,160 you really have some beautiful pieces. 215 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,160 Are you self-taught? 216 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,160 Did you go to school? 217 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,680 Like, how did you learn all about? 218 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:16,200 So I'm not self-taught. 219 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:22,040 And the joke with everyone is like, did you take a free class at like a, you know, community 220 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,040 center? 221 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,800 It's like, well no, I actually went to college for it. 222 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,600 I started at Buffalo State College working towards a BFA in drawing. 223 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:36,480 And one of the foundation classes is all art students will tell you is figure drawing. 224 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,960 I don't mind a naked body in front of me at all because after two minutes it doesn't 225 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,200 matter what you're looking at. 226 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,720 But I have the hardest time drawing the human figure and I got very frustrated. 227 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,560 And so I was like, well, screw this. 228 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:51,560 I'm taking a break. 229 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:54,120 I'm going to take this silly jewelry class for fun. 230 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,720 Like, won't that be a laugh? 231 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,400 And ha ha ha, who's laughing now? 232 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,880 I was really good at it. 233 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,360 I really liked it. 234 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:06,440 Clearly I found the calling and as they say, the rest is history. 235 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,200 Did, did my work there? 236 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,320 I did all the, you know, the foundational things moved up here in 2004 and I opened, 237 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:20,000 well, open slash started, did my first craft show, I guess you could say, in probably 2005. 238 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,480 And since then I moved into wholesale. 239 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,240 Actually, I do quite a bit of wholesale. 240 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:32,320 That's kind of probably 50 or 60% of basically my income. 241 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,160 It's hard to say no to those wholesale dollars. 242 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,160 It's a little like, I mean, 9000 necklaces. 243 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,720 Oh my God, I can't imagine. 244 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:45,520 I think probably 200 of the same pieces my limit and it's kind of creatively crippling. 245 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,520 But again, we all got bills to pay. 246 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,240 So you got to do what you got to do. 247 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,480 I got paid $3 an necklace and that was $27,000. 248 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,440 So that was like, yeah, jewelry. 249 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,440 That's my jam. 250 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,960 Because just like you, I kind of found, I was kind of fell into art, you know, thank 251 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:03,960 God we have college. 252 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:09,240 I think that's really the, you know, the benefit of going to college is really so that you 253 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,120 can like explore other options. 254 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,640 Like that's something I did too. 255 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:15,640 For sure. 256 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,200 Well, and so the difference between where I, you know, we're going to high school in 257 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,360 New York, we had a great art program. 258 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,880 I obviously learned a lot. 259 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:32,080 I didn't realize that there was this component to the craft or the artisan side of it is 260 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,120 in jewelry and metal until I got to college. 261 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,880 When I got to Alaska talking to people with kids in high school, our high schools actually 262 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:44,040 have jewelry programs as part of their art curriculum, which is awesome. 263 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,720 To get kids started that early and to, you know, sort of dip their toes in, I think is 264 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,880 great, but I was definitely really jealous. 265 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,480 It's like, you got it that early. 266 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,680 I wish I had it that early. 267 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:58,480 Have you ever tried teaching at the college level? 268 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Will I teach jewelry design at the community college level? 269 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,480 I'm not necessarily interested in teaching at that level. 270 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,320 I've done individual classes. 271 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,240 I've done some classes out of my home. 272 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:17,680 In fact, we had a kitchen-free model that we had to find last year and part of that came 273 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:18,680 through lessons. 274 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:19,680 Isn't that nice? 275 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:20,680 It is. 276 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:23,680 It's kind of like a side hustle. 277 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:24,680 That's the side hustle. 278 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:27,680 Yeah, it's a side hustle of the side hustle. 279 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:28,680 Yeah. 280 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:35,480 So, I think when I think of Alaska, Anchorage, which I know is a beautiful city and a big 281 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,680 city, it's not like a little tiny city, but there is a lot of tourism there. 282 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:46,600 Is that who is buying your jewelry for the most part? 283 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,880 We have a lot of tourists. 284 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,160 We also have a really, really great local support network. 285 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,720 I would be hard-pressed to leave Alaska not because I'm super outdoorsy and I love the 286 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,200 mountains and hiking because I absolutely do not. 287 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,200 I'm outsidey. 288 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:05,040 I like to look at the sun from the comfort of my car and pull off. 289 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,200 Locals support locals. 290 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,600 We are really good at lifting each other up. 291 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,400 That sounds really cheesy. 292 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:20,040 But helping each other and being such an isolated, because we are pretty isolated, an isolated 293 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,840 community, if there's an event going on, that's the thing that's happening. 294 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:30,600 It's not like you can drive 10, 15, 20 minutes and you've passed through three little towns. 295 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,600 This is it. 296 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,520 So, when there's something happening, people come out, they show up, they support local, 297 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,200 and it's really great. 298 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:45,080 So I wouldn't be where I am today at all without the support of basically the locals. 299 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,520 And for that reason, to move, it would be tough to get me out of here. 300 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,080 Yeah, because that's your network right now. 301 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,080 That's everything, right? 302 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,080 And I get it. 303 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,920 And it is so beautiful. 304 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,240 So your wholesale accounts, are they coming from just people that are coming into your, 305 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,240 do you have a store? 306 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,240 Is that what it is? 307 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,240 I don't have a store. 308 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,760 I did have a brick and mortar for 10 years. 309 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,400 Nice little bucket list saying it was called Bella Boutique. 310 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,360 And it was exclusively handcrafted. 311 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:18,680 I carried over 100 or so artisans from around the country. 312 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:22,520 But people expect you to be there from this time to this time. 313 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,520 And you have to wear pants and it's like the whole thing. 314 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,800 So 10 years of that. 315 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,920 Yeah, right? 316 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:33,600 All these things that are like, and now it's all things optional, which is fantastic. 317 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,640 So I did that for 10 years. 318 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,600 It was a whole lot of fun, but it was time to be done. 319 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,440 But while I was doing that, I really worked up those wholesale lines I used to travel 320 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,000 out and do the big shows. 321 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:52,480 I went to New York, Philadelphia, which RIP, the Philly show, Boston, all of those. 322 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,880 And that was fun. 323 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,920 You got to network and meet people. 324 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:05,680 Now I work with IndieMe.com, which is a wholesale exclusive American-made handcrafted platform. 325 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:14,280 So it saves all of those additional expenses of travel and hauling all of your stuff. 326 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,520 So it's really great. 327 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 So at this point of view, it's OK. 328 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,160 It's a pop-favorite view. 329 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,760 Yeah, yes, I did. 330 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:27,800 Yeah, I mean, it's great that people are finding you on IndieMe. 331 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:34,080 So that's where, now you also have a site on Amazon Handmade, which I'm on there too. 332 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,280 I'm kind of revisiting all of it and it's kind of starting from scratch. 333 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:44,120 Because when I signed up, years ago, 2017, everything has changed. 334 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,680 Everything has changed. 335 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,680 The photos, everything. 336 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,600 It's just kind of a start over. 337 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,240 How is it going on those platforms for you? 338 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,080 Because I know a lot of people that are watching this or listening to this, they might be on 339 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,480 some of these other platforms. 340 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,720 Tell me your story about that. 341 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,840 So I'm on Etsy and Amazon, I guess we start with Amazon. 342 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,360 I started right at the beginning as well, right when the handcrafted program began. 343 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,760 I was right in there. 344 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,760 I loved it. 345 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,760 It was great. 346 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,640 At the beginning, I was doing super well. 347 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,440 And like you said, they've changed a lot of things. 348 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:26,800 As soon as the requirement came down that your first image needed to be a white background, 349 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,480 I mean, it was like off the cliff. 350 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,480 I remember. 351 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,480 I was almost crying. 352 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,480 I was just crying. 353 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,480 I was going, this is so hard. 354 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,480 I was like, erase the background. 355 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,480 It's so hard. 356 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:36,480 Now it's easy. 357 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,480 Push the button. 358 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,480 Done. 359 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,480 But it was one person. 360 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,480 Yeah. 361 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Well, since I work in a lot of silver, silver that's on a white background, it looks awful. 362 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,280 You can't tell that there's any definition. 363 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:05,280 And I'm so not techy at all, the fact that I figured this out like round of applause. 364 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,120 But I mean, I paid somebody like a dollar an image to fix them. 365 00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:09,120 But it is not. 366 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:11,120 It's not a person's fault. 367 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:12,120 They look terrible. 368 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:15,120 And so, no, Amazon is not the place for me anymore. 369 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:17,120 I mean, I'm still there. 370 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:19,120 I still move a couple of things here and there. 371 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:25,120 But if that were supposed to be like my main income stream, like, oh, no, not at all. 372 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:28,600 Etsy, on the other hand, moves a little bit better. 373 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:34,920 I'm certainly not like a top seller by any means, but I'm also like an OG Etsy member. 374 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,240 I had an Etsy membership number. 375 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Like it's 5,000 something. 376 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,480 I was one of the first 5,000 people to sign up. 377 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,920 I made a lot of friends back in the day when they actually had chat rooms. 378 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:50,240 We'd all sit in our regular nine to five cubicles, like chatting in the seller forums. 379 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,880 And I sort of use that as my, hey, you're at a show. 380 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,240 You don't want to buy it now. 381 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,360 You can go get it in the Etsy shop. 382 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:01,800 It's just a little easier than an actual website. 383 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,880 But of course, over the years, they've changed a lot as well. 384 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,800 Their fee structure continues to go up and this and that. 385 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,400 But I mean, that's the world we live in, you know? 386 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,400 Yeah. 387 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,360 I totally agree with you. 388 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:19,360 And not only that, it like changes on this weekly. 389 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:24,240 Like even on Etsy, I got something Etsy that wanted me to be Etsy premium. 390 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,120 And it's like $10 more and you can do this. 391 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:27,120 It's like, okay, fine. 392 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:28,120 Push the button done. 393 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:30,040 But I don't know what I get for that. 394 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,600 I'm like, maybe like, like, we just keep, it's kind of like gambling addicts. 395 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:40,720 We just keep like trying a little bit of this and a little bit of that to see if we'll cha-ching 396 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,960 finally come in. 397 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,080 Because there's so much to the back end. 398 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:51,960 Like I'm, I know that people that have not tipped their toe onto online sales, it is 399 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,360 a whole different ballgame than it was just even, really since COVID. 400 00:18:56,360 --> 00:19:02,360 I would even say social media has changed so much in just the past four years that it's 401 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:06,840 really hard to keep up with all that they're pushing at us. 402 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,840 Like do you find that- Oh, for sure. 403 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,840 Oh yeah. 404 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,520 And like I said, I'm not techie. 405 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:17,040 Like when Reels showed up on Instagram, I was like, no, no, like I just figured out 406 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,040 how to use Instagram. 407 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,960 And now I have to figure out this real thing. 408 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,360 And then like, well, everyone's on TikTok. 409 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:23,800 You have to be on TikTok. 410 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,160 I finally think I made an account two or three months ago. 411 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,960 I, I'm never going to go viral because I don't know what I'm doing. 412 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:37,600 I also feel that I could be spending my time doing something more constructive, like working 413 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:43,000 on fabulous metal pieces than figuring out how to make a TikTok video. 414 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,120 But I'm old and grumpy and again, paid my dues and you know, it's hard to learn things 415 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:49,120 when you're old. 416 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:58,680 Well, one thing I would also say is that the real thing that really could hold us all back 417 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,480 is our phones. 418 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:06,760 If you don't have the latest version of the phone or at least within two years, then now 419 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:12,560 because the phones now, you know what they just added just added this week to my, so 420 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,960 I have a Google phone, a pro pixel pro. 421 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:17,960 So listen to this. 422 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,840 This is like crazy. 423 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:25,040 So you're on a phone call and you look at the phone and it says auto emojis. 424 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,040 It's like what? 425 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,920 So I was talking to my son and he's in the car with his family and the push the button 426 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,320 that's like, and that has like eight different noises that you can make clapping was one 427 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,120 and cheers is an, I'm like, all kinds of cute things. 428 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:40,280 And one of them was a fart. 429 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,200 I'm like, I did that the whole car. 430 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,200 You know, I got a lot of grandkids here three years. 431 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,200 So like, oh, that was farting. 432 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,200 It's like, amazing. 433 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,160 Like, why are you on the phone? 434 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,320 So audio emojis are coming. 435 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,800 Like that's going to transition to everything too. 436 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:58,800 Just watch it's coming. 437 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,800 Like, we're not simulated enough. 438 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:11,040 Well, Google just can't think of more things to push at us because I, yeah, they, you know, 439 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,400 they want to charge us for some of these things down the road. 440 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,400 That's for sure. 441 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,560 And of course we, we do invest in all this kind of stuff. 442 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,240 But yeah, it's tricky. 443 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:25,920 So your phone now can do so much more than if you don't have a phone. 444 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,920 I was telling somebody they had a eight year old phone. 445 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,720 I'm like, you're not even like covered by, I mean, anybody can walk by to steal your 446 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,680 information because you don't even have any software on your phone anymore. 447 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:42,680 That's going to save you if something happens because our, our phones do have to be kept 448 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,680 up to date. 449 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,600 And that is a number one tool and it's expensive to get. 450 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,360 So our prices, let's just talk about that. 451 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,480 I live in an ass Alaska. 452 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,600 Our prices like super expensive there. 453 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:59,040 I know like milk, I know groceries are just ridiculous, but even like, are they more, 454 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,560 is it worth it to come down to the States or can I send you something? 455 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,560 Yeah. 456 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,880 Well, I did just, you know, make a trader Joe's run when we were in Seattle last week 457 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,680 and I definitely like him carrying basil plants home on the plane. 458 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,160 Oh, that's so cute. 459 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,680 It's still quite a drive. 460 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,680 I love Seattle. 461 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,680 Oh my God. 462 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,680 I love Seattle. 463 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,680 How far of a drive is that for you? 464 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,520 Oh, we didn't drive. 465 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,520 We flew the drive is a solid like three days and you have to go through Canada. 466 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,800 I mean, I'm trying to like visualize that. 467 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,520 And I'm like, I'm gonna stop somewhere. 468 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,520 I don't know over Vancouver. 469 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:37,120 I'm like, I don't know how to go from Vancouver to you because a bit of a drive. 470 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,440 I've been on a three and a half hour flight. 471 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,200 So it's, it's nice and you know, that's our stopping point to go to the rest of the world. 472 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,800 So it's kind of nice to actually get out of the airport when you're actually staying in 473 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,800 Seattle. 474 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,800 So that was cool. 475 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,800 But yeah, I grabbed, grabbed the TJ's and the IKEA and the things while we were there. 476 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:58,720 And of course had to visit shipwreck beads because, you know, we're out of the state. 477 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:04,040 So I have to go shopping and I would say that I was unchaperone, but my husband was very 478 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,040 kind to push the cart behind me and be like, you take your time, you do what you need to 479 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,040 do. 480 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,080 Like, I understand that we don't come a lot. 481 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,560 So that was really nice. 482 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,440 I totally get that. 483 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,840 I totally get that. 484 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,840 Yeah. 485 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:24,160 And I don't like 97% of what they carry doesn't apply to me or my work or what I do. 486 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,080 But you know, they have pretty shiny things. 487 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,840 So I definitely came home with a bag full of goodies. 488 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:37,360 I got this beautiful, these bits of amber and I just can't wait strand. 489 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:38,360 That's the word I'm looking for. 490 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:40,800 Granddad strand of amber beads. 491 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,880 And I can't wait to put them on something. 492 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,360 I don't know what I'm going to do with them yet, but I'm like, I can't leave you here. 493 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:46,360 You have to come home with me. 494 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:48,360 So you're talking about shipwreck beads, right? 495 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:49,720 Shipwreck, yep. 496 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:55,120 So I used to use shipwreck back at the very beginning when I first started my business 497 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,320 and I haven't thought of them in a long time. 498 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,240 You kind of get in your thing. 499 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,040 I use mostly fire mountain gems, which is also up in Wyoming. 500 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:09,160 It was in Washington state up there on the fire, on the fire mountain. 501 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,080 So I loved seeing those. 502 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:17,320 I think I saw something on about going, you going there on Instagram. 503 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,240 Did I see something about you going there? 504 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,240 You did. 505 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,240 Yes. 506 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,200 And then I finally posted a picture yesterday of part of my whole. 507 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,120 And yeah, if you're listening and if you want to follow me, I would love for you to 508 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:29,120 follow me. 509 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,120 What was your name? 510 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:31,680 My name is Annie Pants. 511 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,720 I'm asked Annie Pants, Annie, like the orphan. 512 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:42,760 And it's the mixture of my work and I'm also an aspiring home chef and then my animals 513 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,400 in life in Alaska. 514 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:52,040 I try to keep it art focused, but I also feel that me as a person, that's part of my art. 515 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,800 Like I'm presenting me. 516 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,520 And so that's part of the whole stick. 517 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,080 So yeah, giving a follow, that would be awesome. 518 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,080 I'd appreciate it. 519 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,080 I know I follow you. 520 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Now, do you have pictures of your frogs on there? 521 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,120 Because I'm going to want to look for those frogs. 522 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:07,400 I don't yet. 523 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,400 No. 524 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,400 Well, small picture. 525 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,200 I have a picture of the dogs looking at the frogs. 526 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,000 But I'll see what I can do about getting a good picture. 527 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,000 Okay. 528 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000 Only because I'm a frog. 529 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,000 I don't want to guess. 530 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,960 I just think that frogs are so important to our environment. 531 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,000 And that's really how I think of it on our ranch is that if we have frogs, that means 532 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000 it's healthy. 533 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,280 Of course, the first night that I built the pond and filled it up with water and I'm 534 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,800 all excited about it. 535 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,320 And it was like this big thing. 536 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Like I spent all this money on chunks of glass rocks to put all over. 537 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,920 Because of course, it had to be an art pond. 538 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,600 And then I woke up the next morning and there was two dead frogs in there. 539 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,760 I'm like, oh no. 540 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,600 And they couldn't get out. 541 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,760 So I'm like, oh no. 542 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,960 I didn't know they were going to come so soon. 543 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,040 Like, I was right out. 544 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,480 I didn't have a stick in the water too. 545 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,320 So they could like, you know, get out of there. 546 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,320 I had to learn. 547 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,640 So it was sad, very sad for me, dramatic. 548 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,320 I have been a GCSD from that almost. 549 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,320 I'm just kidding. 550 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:14,000 But really, so tell me about going to shipwreck beads because I used to be like friends with 551 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,000 them. 552 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,840 Like I would just call up and they knew me. 553 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,200 So they're a great company. 554 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,200 They're a great company. 555 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,480 They know they totally are. 556 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,800 And again, a lot of what they hear isn't really my lane. 557 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,560 If I'm going to add gemstones, I prefer genuine gemstones, not necessarily beads because I'm 558 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,560 not a beader. 559 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,840 There are other people do it far better. 560 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,560 But I found some lovely strands. 561 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:45,120 I found some little, little charms and things that I couldn't pass up. 562 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,520 They've moved since the last time I was there. 563 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,320 So I couldn't quite get my bearings at first. 564 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,920 Like, what didn't you used to be? 565 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,920 And they were. 566 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,320 So new space. 567 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:00,160 And then the other bummer is totally not their fault up until 2019 out of state residents 568 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,440 didn't have to pay Washington sales tax. 569 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,440 But that went away. 570 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,280 So we had to pay sales tax, which is fine. 571 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,360 And because we don't have sales tax here in. 572 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:10,360 Right. 573 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,440 So there's Alaska. 574 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,680 Everybody's got that extra little bonus over their head so that you don't have to do that. 575 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,160 Isn't that the nicest thing ever? 576 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,080 Well, I mean, it is lovely. 577 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,640 But we kind of consider it like repayment for shipping over charges. 578 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,640 Right. 579 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,360 So we're not making any money because it definitely costs a lot more to live here. 580 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:36,800 And I think sometimes people here, Alaska, when they're shipping and they think like 581 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,800 Africa, like we're shipping it really far away. 582 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,200 It's like, no, we're actually still part of the US. 583 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,280 You don't have to change your money. 584 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Stamps work the same way. 585 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,360 But it's just part of the fun in the stick of living here. 586 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:52,200 A little shipping, talking about shipping. 587 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,960 Oh my God, it's so expensive. 588 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,960 Shipping has gone through the roof. 589 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,560 I just shipped a tiny little package to England. 590 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,560 44 bucks. 591 00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,560 It was like, yep. 592 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,320 Like it just keeps going up. 593 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,680 So from Alaska to ship something up, it's not like me shipping it across town. 594 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,840 There's like one price all across the US. 595 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,280 It does that pricing also work in Alaska? 596 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,560 Like it fluctuates depending on how far it's going. 597 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:24,400 But I think for the most part, like with what they call it global something, now they change 598 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,640 this to the first class anymore. 599 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,640 But with first class, it used to sort of depend on how far it was going. 600 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,160 Priority is pretty flat rate. 601 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,640 So that's pretty much the same. 602 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,520 But in fact, this morning, I was putting some orders out in the mailbox in front of the 603 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,400 house and I heard some little ch ch behind me and I look and there's this baby bull moose 604 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,400 coming to say hello. 605 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:49,320 And we didn't have the front camera on so I sent my husband a text like, hey, if the 606 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,880 cameras had been on, you would have seen me heading to the front door a little faster 607 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,880 than normal. 608 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,160 Because they can be a little dangerous because they're giant animals. 609 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,840 They're soft like a cow, but they're giant. 610 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,840 Yes. 611 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,840 They're very, very big. 612 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,160 I mean, he wasn't charging. 613 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,160 He was happy. 614 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,160 He was fine. 615 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,000 Just, I mean, he takes three steps and he covers 15 feet. 616 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,800 So I was like, I'll go back and now. 617 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,720 But the mail's ready to go. 618 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,920 Yeah, I have had moose meat before. 619 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,040 Is that normal? 620 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,520 That's normal, but it was good. 621 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,520 Oh, totally normal. 622 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,520 I mean, it is like a cow. 623 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,520 It's like a big cow. 624 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,520 It's like, oh yeah. 625 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,800 I think, I mean, they might even be bigger depending. 626 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,520 But yeah, they're bigger than cow, but they're, but they're tasty. 627 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,520 They're very tasty. 628 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:37,960 They're like, um, but anyway, I digress because that was just, I was a good memory is what 629 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,400 that was happening right there. 630 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,880 It's like, oh yeah, moose meat. 631 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,360 I'm sure you get it all the time because it's like something Texas we would never have. 632 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,600 So is there anything I can send you from Texas that you, if there is like just know I'm here. 633 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,600 I love it. 634 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,600 Well, thank you. 635 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,600 Thank you for being my emotional support. 636 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,600 Yeah. 637 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,600 Well, yeah. 638 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,080 I kind of think that I, you know, because I understand that because I lived in Canada 639 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,600 for 12 years and it was very hard and I've lived overseas and I've lived, you know, I've 640 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,840 lived in multiple places. 641 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:14,520 And I know sometimes you just want those whole house chocolate chips, you know, nothing, 642 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,080 nothing like it anywhere in the world except for from wherever you are. 643 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:26,800 So, you know, and I know those are, and I see my friend, uh, and Annette and she, she's 644 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,520 a radio tech at a hospital out there in Marceau, Alaska. 645 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,280 And like one night a week, the groceries are so expensive. 646 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,960 They have the hospital provides them with one steak dinner and it's like 10 bucks for 647 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,800 a steak dinner, which normally it would be like a gazillion dollars. 648 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,680 And I'm always so happy to see her pictures. 649 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,640 I'm like, I'd be getting that too. 650 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,000 That was a good $10 steak is what that is happening. 651 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Yep. 652 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000 Yeah. 653 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Seriously. 654 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Yeah. 655 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,520 Now your work is really beautiful. 656 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,720 Let's go back to about your jewelry. 657 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,720 I'm sorry. 658 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,560 I was digressed about, but you know, I feel like I'm meeting a friend. 659 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,640 So it is really nice. 660 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,600 We have a lot in common, so it's kind of nice to meet you. 661 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,600 Like honestly, I'm, I'm really tickled about that. 662 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,920 And so tell me about what inspires you. 663 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,480 I mean, people can go online and they can look at your jewelry and they can follow you 664 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,160 on Instagram, Miss Annie pants, Miss Annie pants. 665 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,160 Ms. MS. 666 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,160 Yes. 667 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,160 Yeah. 668 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,160 Ms. Amy pants. 669 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,280 And, um, and then of course they can find you and I'll put a link, um, so they can find 670 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,120 you also in the description of the podcast so they can like find all these little things 671 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,120 from you. 672 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,960 But you're, you're living in a beautiful area. 673 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,520 Do you feel like, does any of that inspire you when you're working? 674 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,760 Like what do you, what do you do to inspire yourself? 675 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Um, it's funny. 676 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,680 I find that the things that, that sort of tickled me the most, um, are just like the 677 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,680 mundane. 678 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,720 So it really has nothing to do with what's outside my window. 679 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,280 I have a few little landscape pieces that I'll do here and there. 680 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,840 And then I have a fireweed, which is the, it's a weed, um, but it's all over up here. 681 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:11,120 It's this lovely pink flower and we sort of like tell the, where we are in the season 682 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,400 by where the blossoms are on this flower. 683 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,600 So I have a fireweed piece that's very popular. 684 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:22,080 Um, but like I have this handbag from that I got in Italy and I was like, can I make 685 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,480 that out of metal? 686 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,680 And I did and can I make a hammer? 687 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:34,000 Like it's more of a challenge to myself to recreate what I see around me. 688 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,200 Um, and I challenged myself to do a piece a day. 689 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,280 I think it was at the height of COVID lockdown. 690 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,280 Like the bottom had literally fallen out from probably all of our businesses, all of my 691 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,600 whole thing orders for the season. 692 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,960 They canceled within three days of each other. 693 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,800 So it's like, oh, yeah. 694 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:51,800 Okay. 695 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,360 So this is a story of start over 2020. 696 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,360 Yeah. 697 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,800 It was like, let's, uh, let's pivot real hard and figure out how we're going to make 698 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,880 this work. 699 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:07,880 So I, I did this piece a day challenge basically. 700 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:15,040 So I would allow myself the time to basically just fart around for one to three to six hours 701 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,720 in the studio to make whatever piece I decided I wanted to make. 702 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,800 It's hard when you have wholesale hanging over your head to waste six hours on something 703 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,160 that you don't know if anyone's going to want. 704 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,200 So having that pressure removed was actually kind of fabulous. 705 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,200 Excuse me. 706 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,200 Um, but actually I have some of the pieces here if you want to see one. 707 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:41,200 So this is, and I don't know if it's going to, is it cute? 708 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,000 So this is the replica of the Italian handbag. 709 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,760 Oh, it's beautiful. 710 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,040 Is there money when you open it? 711 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,520 Cause I want money on the inside of it. 712 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,120 It doesn't open, but we can do, send us money in there. 713 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,600 There's a bucket of pearls in there. 714 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,600 Exactly. 715 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,600 It's beautiful. 716 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,600 It's really beautiful. 717 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,600 Thank you. 718 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,600 Was it solid? 719 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,600 Like I have no idea. 720 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,600 I do not do silver. 721 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,720 It's not in my thing. 722 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,200 Not even gonna, even gonna. 723 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,960 I'm not even gonna even try. 724 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,640 But I'm always curious about it. 725 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:19,120 And I see all the equipment that goes into it is like, Oh my God, you have to invest 726 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,120 so much. 727 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:25,040 And then it's so expensive, all those things, all that silver and all that. 728 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,120 So is it solid or was it a sheet? 729 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,800 So this, it started as individual components. 730 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,920 So I, and I'm not a seamstress by any means, sewing is not something that I can do. 731 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,480 But basically I made a pattern like you would if you were sewing something. 732 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,840 So you know, the edges sides and then basically soldered it together and formed it to basically 733 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,480 come back on itself. 734 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,600 So instead of using a sewing machine, I used heat and solder and hammer. 735 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,640 We all, we love our hammers. 736 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Okay. 737 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,200 And so you also made a hammer. 738 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,720 I did make a hammer. 739 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,200 I do have a hammer here. 740 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:06,040 I wanna see the scale of it and see how it looks. 741 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,040 She's we. 742 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,040 Oh, look at that. 743 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,040 It's so cute. 744 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,040 Is it a ring at the top? 745 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,040 Yeah. 746 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,760 A little tiny, little tiny hole. 747 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,560 And then we've got the little claw at the end. 748 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,160 You know, that is so cute. 749 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,480 And I'm trying to think if I could make that in resin, but I don't think so. 750 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:32,280 It'd be hard to kind of mold it because it's that 3D part, you know, is a little bit tricky 751 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,280 on that. 752 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,120 But it's really a work of art. 753 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,000 Like these are the museum pieces. 754 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,160 You know, that's another thing when you're talking about like making things that are 755 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,280 kind of like, you're not even worried about selling on this. 756 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,160 Just I'm going to make this because it's cool. 757 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,680 Like do you go back in history? 758 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,840 I love to see all these old things in history. 759 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,240 And you go, oh my God, a Cambly. 760 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:59,080 They made that like they made that like way back without any of the stuff that we have 761 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,080 today. 762 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,840 Like you ever see that? 763 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,200 Do you follow any of that old, all the old stuff, which is stunning to me. 764 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,200 Oh, for sure. 765 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:14,960 I mean, anything anti-exhistory, you know, if walls could talk, like that's my jam. 766 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,280 I love that kind of stuff. 767 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,080 In fact, I was just back east. 768 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,840 My grandmother's in a nursing home when we need to sort of liquidate her assets to make 769 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,120 sure that she's taken care of as she needs to be. 770 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,080 So I was back to sort of help go through all of these things. 771 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:34,080 And it's like the stuff that we found in that attic, man, so cool. 772 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:39,520 Yes, the way that it's made and you know, there's a big Amish culture there as well. 773 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:47,120 So nails versus pins versus yeah, like the arts and crafts movement back when I was in 774 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,000 school, like that was that was my jam. 775 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:56,480 Like can we just take that art history class for the rest of all of the things? 776 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,160 Because I just think it's so great. 777 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:04,080 And it's a lost art just making things with hands. 778 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,320 And that's what I say about my work. 779 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,800 It's not highly polished. 780 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,800 It's not super finished. 781 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,480 And I never want it to be. 782 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,520 I say that I want evidence of hand. 783 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,240 I want you to know that it's handmade. 784 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:19,520 I want you to know that even if I did make, dear God, I never want to make 9,000. 785 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:27,480 But if I made several, I don't want them to be exactly the same because that other people 786 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,480 do that better. 787 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,480 And by other people, I mean machines. 788 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,600 So I always want you to know that it was handmade. 789 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:42,000 And that's what I think about of this fabrication is, is obviously this wasn't stamped or molded 790 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,320 or came out of some big factory. 791 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,720 Like, nope, somebody actually labored over this pop that pop into your head. 792 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:54,800 And then it became a thing like it never was a thing before it came into your head. 793 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,800 Like it is amazing. 794 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,200 I did a little thing with with Hermes. 795 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,320 And one thing that they talked about is, you know, if we have a little mark on something, 796 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,040 we just say, oh, it's because it's made by hand. 797 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,440 We like that. 798 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:14,640 And so, you know, even Hermes at the level that they're in and the perfection that they 799 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,680 aspire to, it's still okay if it's got a little, even if you wear it and it's got a little 800 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,680 mark on it, it's okay. 801 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,100 Because it's just love of the piece is all in there. 802 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:31,360 That kind of, you know, kind of like shows you that we all like things that are handmade 803 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,480 because they're selling at a global level. 804 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,480 And they're fine with that. 805 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,640 They're like, yep, it's artisan made. 806 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,000 That's that's what we're selling. 807 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,160 So that should make you feel really good too. 808 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,440 And I love it that your pieces are one of a kind. 809 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,760 I totally get that. 810 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,880 That's why we're going to be friends forever, because we're like, we're on that one of a 811 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,880 kind jam. 812 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,120 Like, I love it. 813 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:58,760 It doesn't need to be, it needs to be special, you know, when somebody wears it, I just had 814 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,960 a client here and I told her as she walked out, I'm like, now you remember, you tell 815 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,840 them, you know, this is from Sugar Gay Isber and she's famous, like say that every time. 816 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,640 You want people to know. 817 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,640 Absolutely. 818 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:16,360 It just gets that little juice going for somebody that's, you know, looking, looking 819 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,480 at her stuff and admiring it and going, yeah, that's pretty, but it's all made by me. 820 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,480 Oh, for sure. 821 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,880 And like when I'm in the grocery store or like even watching the nightly news, I'm 822 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,200 always scoping to see who's wearing my stuff. 823 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:36,320 And I know that that sounds so, but it's just like, ooh, I'm seeing it in the wild. 824 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,320 Like I love it. 825 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,320 I know. 826 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,080 I have a news anchor here that wears like the same one pair of earrings over. 827 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,400 Actually, it's these earrings. 828 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,400 She has these. 829 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,400 Oh, well, they're lovely. 830 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,640 She wears them over and over. 831 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,680 I'm like, I kind of need to send her something else. 832 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,520 I'm just gonna wear that as well, but yeah, because it's cute. 833 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,200 You know, that's because we work hard. 834 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,200 Nothing bad about that, that we're, that our stuff is in the wild and that we're looking 835 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,760 for it because we want that. 836 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,600 That's like a little affirmation that we've done our job well and that people admire our 837 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,600 things. 838 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,480 Like it's not every day that that happens. 839 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,360 So it certainly is a little, it feels good. 840 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,280 Like we need some feel good. 841 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,760 So I get it. 842 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,760 COVID. 843 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,760 I'm like, I'm gonna start over. 844 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,760 I did the same thing. 845 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,920 I have a whole room of jewelry because I never stopped during COVID, even though I had no 846 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,920 orders. 847 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,560 I'm like, every piece, I'm just getting better and better and better. 848 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,160 So why keep my stop? 849 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,480 Like it's not going to stop me that I, I'm just making this shit. 850 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:37,360 I can't eat it, but you know, certainly got to get rid of it, but you know, it's just part 851 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,360 of who I was. 852 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,920 I'm not going to stop because I don't have a customer. 853 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,520 I'm thinking about that customer. 854 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,520 So, of course. 855 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,520 Yeah. 856 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:51,120 And a lot of the one of the kinds that I did during the, the piece of day, excuse me, I 857 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,640 did list them each day after I made them. 858 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,520 And it was kind of, kind of a running joke in our house. 859 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,600 Like how long until we heard the dang that it sold. 860 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,440 And I think the record was like four minutes. 861 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,440 Oh, what? 862 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,160 Which was super cool. 863 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,120 But some of the pieces I realized that like I just love too much personally, but like, 864 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,120 I can't sell them. 865 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,360 Like the little, obviously the little suitcase and then we're really into drag in this house. 866 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,160 Like, I, I want to be a drag queen so badly. 867 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,240 But I made a Ginny lemon. 868 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:23,240 Oh. 869 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:28,120 So, one of the British drag queens and she's fantastic. 870 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:34,920 And so I made this Ginny lemon phase and I've taken it to a couple shows and I realized 871 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,080 as people sort of stopped to look at it that I want to snatch it out of their hands. 872 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,080 So I was like, you know what? 873 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,080 I'm just, that's fine now. 874 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,200 Like you can't have it. 875 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,200 I love it too much. 876 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:48,040 But I did do a few other drag queens and they sold, which is fantastic. 877 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:53,200 Cause you know, I want these things to go out there and I want people to love their 878 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,960 one of a kinds, but I also want to keep some of the specials for me too. 879 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,960 We have to wrap this up in a minute, but I want to tell you that my son just sent me 880 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,200 a list of all his favorite drag queens so that I could go on their website. 881 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,200 We should do this together. 882 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,200 I love it. 883 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:14,080 I want to go on their websites and see if we can like make things for them because you 884 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,480 know, they're always out in the, they're always out in the wild, for example. 885 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,480 Of course. 886 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,720 I like how you said that. 887 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:26,200 But you know, definitely I think that there's some, it's just, I mean, cause we have cool 888 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,520 stuff and they're kind of some of the people who might wear it. 889 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,600 So you know, a little bit more exaggerated, interesting jewelry. 890 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,280 So I have a whole list. 891 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:41,120 I will, I'll just copy it from WhatsApp and send it to you so that he did the research 892 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,120 for us. 893 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,120 So, I love it. 894 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,120 Yeah. 895 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,120 And then we'll go on chat GPT and have chat with GPT and I'm going to help you with this 896 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,400 and then have them write up a little letter and then we'll just start posting it to everybody 897 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,400 and just go ahead. 898 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,400 This is fantastic. 899 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,400 Yeah. 900 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,400 A girl from. 901 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,400 Coming through here. 902 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,400 Yeah. 903 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,280 A girl from Anchorage and a girl from Texas, they're going to mold up and we're going 904 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,480 to figure out how we can like do something together because or at least just talk about 905 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,400 ourselves to them to go, Hey, we should be coming for you Bianca. 906 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,400 Let's do authority. 907 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,400 Come on. 908 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,400 I've met her before. 909 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,400 I made a crown for her. 910 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,400 Oh, very nice. 911 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,400 Yeah. 912 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,400 Yeah. 913 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,400 She came. 914 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,520 She's my son's favorite and she came to Austin. 915 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:28,000 So I met, I met him her at a show and she puts on, she's really funny. 916 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,000 So she's hilarious. 917 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,000 She's my husband's favorite. 918 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,000 Okay. 919 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,720 Well, look at us. 920 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:33,720 We are so similar. 921 00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:37,320 That's the one drag queen I've actually met. 922 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,080 So, and I know she's my favorite. 923 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,520 I've met several. 924 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,760 I'm that person, but they're all fantastic. 925 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,960 That is so fun. 926 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,040 Well, I look forward to more conversations with you. 927 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,400 Is there anything else you want to tell anybody? 928 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,720 Like, John, this is your like last like closing sentence. 929 00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,920 This is the sentence. 930 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,160 Other than give me a follow. 931 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,920 I'd love the support. 932 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,400 Just keep supporting your local artists. 933 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,400 Support your community. 934 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,400 Support your makers. 935 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,080 Man, these hands, they've seen a lot. 936 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,080 We all work with them and we appreciate the support. 937 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:20,000 So whether you're super local or you want to get hyper local or if you're just supporting 938 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:26,120 handmade out there, I think it's incredibly important, especially without getting political, 939 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,440 because crazy economic climate that we are in. 940 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,680 This, this is what we do. 941 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,680 This is what I do. 942 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,680 This isn't my side hustle. 943 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,680 This is my whole. 944 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,160 We were born to do this. 945 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,560 That's how it really like I was born. 946 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:47,320 And while we can both pivot and we can sort of supplement income streams here and there, 947 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,680 the number one down a dirty for me is I, I'm a jewelry and I would love to make it for 948 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,920 you and your friends and other people. 949 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,280 And let's do that with all the art people. 950 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,040 Give them your money. 951 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,560 Support them and surround yourself. 952 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,800 Beautiful things because we all deserve to be strong to be beauty. 953 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,800 Yes, we do. 954 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,120 Well, you and I are going to talk again because you're a lovely, you're a lovely guest on 955 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,120 my podcast today. 956 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,120 And we've been so much for having me. 957 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:21,040 And we've been talking to Annie Cizak Cizak and she's an Anchorage Alaska and you can 958 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,640 find her on Instagram. 959 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,280 There'll be a link at the bottom. 960 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:33,400 So make sure it, but it's miss Annie pants, M.S. and then it's like any, any, any Oakley 961 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,400 or any Oak or Fiddy any pants. 962 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,480 So the traveling pants. 963 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,760 So you can remember that miss Annie pants on Instagram. 964 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,160 I hope I got that right. 965 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,080 Anyway, thank you again for your time. 966 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,960 I'm going to hit the disconnect button just to stop recording. 967 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,360 And I thank you for being on my podcast and I really look forward to talking to you again 968 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,000 very soon. 969 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,000 I love it. 970 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,000 Thank you sugar. 971 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:11,800 Transcribed by yea