1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,920 Hi guys, welcome back to True North. My name is Angel and today I have two very 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,960 special guests with me, Pastor T.L. Wilson, pastor of Royal Gospel Missionary Baptist 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,920 Church and his beautiful wife, a recording artist officially Lady J. Hi guys. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:22,480 Hello. Hey Angel, how are you? I'm great. How are you guys? I'm doing well. I just feel so 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,440 privileged and honored to be a part of your podcast. Thank you so much for having us on. 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,240 Yeah and I just love to be a part of anything that's the inaugural. You know, I love that 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,520 you know, I like to be the first. I like to be on something that's on the breaking ground. 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,040 So really a privilege and honor to be here. Well thank you guys for agreeing to come on 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:49,120 because I was a little scared. But yeah, as you guys can tell, this is the first episode and the 10 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,520 title of this episode is Getting Real and I found it very fitting to be in real gospel, 11 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:59,360 getting real conversations with the pastor and his wife. Okay, yeah, that's real. 12 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,560 Well you know that Lady J, that's part of our mantra, what we stand for, you know, real people, 13 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,720 real issues. We serve a real God and call ourselves real gospel. Amen. Praise God. 14 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:21,520 So I'm like, I don't know where to start. Well I guess the first question is like, 15 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:28,240 how did you guys come like into the church? Like were you like, when you first came into the church, 16 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:34,000 like what was your standards or like mindset when you guys first came into church? 17 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Well when I first came into church, I was a kid, so I was drug and made to go and my mindset was 18 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:48,160 to really not be there and how long is this gonna last. But as I got older and more mature, the things 19 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:54,640 of the Lord, even at a young age, I knew that I needed Christ. So I'd asked the Lord about age six 20 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,680 to come into my heart and to fill me with this Holy Spirit and he did just that. And I can't say 21 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:05,760 that I've walked without, without shortcomings, but I can say that I know the Lord in the 22 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,920 parting of my sins and I thank God that he's a redeeming God. Wow. So for me, my story, yeah, 23 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:18,320 little bit somewhat, but different as well. I lived in Maple Heights, grew up in Maple Heights, 24 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:24,640 and my parents would make us go to church. We had a church right on our corner. So Mount Moriah, 25 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:32,240 a church, AME church. And so my little brother and I, we used to watch Davey and Goliath on TV 26 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,960 in the morning and they would go off at 9.30 and then we'd walk to the corner church and 27 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,960 and, you know, my parents never came to that church. They just made us go. So because I was made to go, 28 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,600 I asked my daddy, when did, when could I stop going to church? And he said, when you get grown. 29 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,240 So one of the first things I did when I got grown is I didn't go to church anymore. So when I went 30 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:00,160 off to college, I didn't go to church or anything. And I got back introduced to church by my sister 31 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:07,040 who belonged to a Baptist church. And I went there. And that's when I got saved. And then I got the 32 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,160 Holy Spirit after I met my lovely wife. She introduced me to the deeper things of God. So that's 33 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:19,040 kind of not true at all. Okay, okay. So my question for you, pastor, what made you want to become a 34 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:26,320 pastor? So it wasn't that I desired to become a pastor. What had actually happened is that 35 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:35,200 my wife and I, we went on a fast. And as a result of that fast, the Lord spoke through me and as my 36 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:43,680 wife wrote those things down. And part of what was said was that we should start a ministry. And 37 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:52,800 that's what we did back in. When was that? That was back in, and excuse me, that was... Back in the day. 38 00:03:52,800 --> 00:04:04,080 Way back in the day. January 1st of 2005. And so January 1st of 2005, that's when we started 39 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,680 Real Gospel Missionary Baptist Church. And at that point, the Lord told us to start a ministry. We 40 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:16,000 started in our home and we did weekly Bible studies every Wednesday. And then we did that from 41 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:22,960 2005 to 2007. And then the Lord blessed us with a building, our first building. And that was in 42 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Oakwood Village. And so we rented a building there. And that's when we started the church back in June 43 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:32,240 of 2007. What's been doing it ever since. I actually remember the Oldville Dines. You remember the 44 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Oldville Dines? Yeah. That was the first time I actually ever came to the church in 2011. I mean, 45 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:45,440 2011. Wow. That was the first time. You've been with us for 13 years. Oh my goodness. That's amazing. 46 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Time really goes fast. It goes real fast. It's a real girl. Yeah, that's where me, Alicia, 47 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Lisa and Kajal did our first praise dance at. That's right. We was ahead of the game, 48 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,120 though, because they had to drag you into the church. You wanted to come, and so... So how did 49 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:08,000 you go into our world of gospel back in 2011? My foster mom, Miss Sandra, I love her. She... 50 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:14,800 Because I think we came... When we first came into her home, it was like a Wednesday, I think it was. 51 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,160 And well, Alicia had actually already been there, my sister Alicia. She was already there because 52 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:26,640 she was doing breastfit there. And then I came in like a week later. And so she was like, yeah, 53 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,760 they can come stay with me. Well, she was willing to foster us, thankfully. Oh, wow. It was awesome. 54 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:37,440 And she actually brought us to the church. But she was... We weren't even officially in her care 55 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:43,840 at that point. We were technically doing breastfit with her at that point. Got you. Before she actually 56 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,840 renewed her license to foster us. And so she brought us to the church, and that's where we 57 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:56,960 actually met both of you. Oh, my goodness. So that's funny because the way I met your mom is that 58 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:07,040 I did a memorial service for one of our members. And it was at a funeral home. And I did that. And 59 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:14,880 she said from hearing that particular presentation of the gospel and doing that particular service, 60 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:23,360 she followed up in this hard of a church. Yeah, I love you guys. We love you. 61 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,560 Because after like that first Sunday, like we were ever here, like I'm like, 62 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,240 this is it. Well, you know, the one thing I know my wife probably have her own sentiments and 63 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,680 echo maybe some of it is the fact that you're so humble. You're humble in the things of God. And 64 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:47,200 I think that's one of the greatest attributes that a human can have when we accept Christ and 65 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,480 we're humble about it. You know, and when we humble ourselves, the Bible says that he will 66 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:58,800 exalt us. He's the one that lifts us up. So you've always been so sweet, so nice. And you know, 67 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:06,880 you know, sometimes we don't like young people because we have kids. We love our children, 68 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:15,280 right? But we love angel. But you're so nice, you're respectful always. And we truly, truly, 69 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:26,640 we appreciate that. Thank you. I was just kidding. Is it true? Is it true? We do, we do, we do. 70 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:35,520 Too much pain in the kid. You know, you like orange soda too. I do like orange soda. I do, 71 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:41,760 I do, I do. I ain't your baby though. Oh, yeah, you've been, you've been great. I love it when 72 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:47,040 I look back at the old video of you and my son and you got in the car and did the little skit. 73 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,200 No, that was Alicia, actually. That wasn't me. That was Alicia. He was crossing the street. 74 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,560 You were crossing the street. Yeah. Yeah. They were yelling at you and bumping the 75 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:02,960 horn. Yeah. So if you've never seen it, they'll too real nice for you too. And I will probably 76 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,680 put, I'm gonna post it on Instagram. And that's the one next week. So follow us there. 77 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,920 All right. So how was your experience coming to the church and being the age that you were 78 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:20,640 back then? It was, it was different for me because I don't even know. Like I've always 79 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:27,280 grown up in the church. No matter what foster home I was in, I always found a way to get to church. 80 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,320 Okay. Didn't know that. No matter what. Because that's from my grandmother. She introduced me 81 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,760 up to church at a very young age. She's the one that baptized me the first time actually. Oh wow. 82 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Yeah. And that was from her because I remember it because I was actually with her when she passed 83 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:46,960 away. And I just, the one thing I remember her always telling me, no matter where you are, 84 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,080 find a church to go to. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's such a blessing when you're with your loved one, 85 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,640 when they transition. Yeah. That's a blessing. It's nothing like it to see them cross over. 86 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:03,360 Even at a young age it teaches you about life and the fragility of life and that there is a life 87 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:08,720 after, you know what I mean? Yeah. And so it's good that you were exposed to that to be able to see 88 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:14,640 that, yeah, part of life is definitely going on to be with the Lord. So yeah. And I remember when 89 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:21,200 I first came into the church at the old location, I instantly fell in love with it. Like I just felt 90 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:26,960 amazing energy as soon as I walked in. Oh wow. And like I felt like my grandmother was there with 91 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,320 us. Well, yeah, this is definitely going to be the church I'll be staying at. Oh wow. The one thing 92 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:38,240 I like about the church is, you know, a lot of times people play church, act like there's something 93 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,440 that they're not, but I really feel it's still like the people that the Lord has allowed to come 94 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:50,080 through the doors are real people. They don't put on any heirs. They are who they are. And we're all 95 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,680 just trying to get better and the things of the Lord that we might see Jesus and our loved ones 96 00:09:53,680 --> 00:10:00,400 again, shouldn't we die in Christ? Yeah. You know, I, I agree with that, like Jay. And for me, it's 97 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:06,800 all about being transparent because when I first got introduced to church, I said, oh my gosh, 98 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:12,960 the pastor, this person is so high and lifted up. Oh my gosh, how can ever be like him? But I found 99 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:18,800 out that pastors are just men like other men. They know who the Lord is. And so I wanted to make sure 100 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:25,120 that I don't just, I communicate the life of Christ and the goodness of Christ. But also, 101 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:30,240 when the Lord tells me, I talk about some of my weaknesses and the things that I have to overcome 102 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:36,880 so that people can understand that this walk that we walk, it's not perfect. No, not at all. 103 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,520 It's not perfect. So like at the end of the day, we're all human. We all make mistakes. We all make 104 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:47,680 mistakes. No one is perfect. But God, but God, he's only perfect one. And so we strive for perfection. 105 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:55,600 But at times we fall short. Yeah. But remember, he said that my strength is made perfect so we can 106 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:00,480 glory in our infirmities knowing that when we're weak, God is strong. So. 107 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:08,080 But yeah, I had to come and be a part of this. I'm so thankful for you to be a young lady and 108 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,760 you're not trying to make a twerk video. You're not trying to dance with the red light on. I'm just, 109 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:19,520 I'm just praising God because it's so needed for your generation to have and that the Lord is still 110 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:25,440 raising up young people that know him, that really know him and live according to his word in every 111 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,960 aspect, not to be not to your perfect person. I don't know you and I be a perfect person. 112 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:37,440 But I do praise God that you have the boldness, the Holy Ghost boldness to stand forward and to 113 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:44,480 stand out in Jesus's name. So yeah, it was, it was always, it was a yes for me before you even say 114 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:51,920 something. I'm like, I can't do this. Let's do it. Yeah. So you have a platform. The Lord is giving 115 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,800 you a platform. And when the Lord gives you a platform, he gives you an anointing to be able 116 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:03,840 to operate in that platform to serve him and to do his will and to do his purpose. And so 117 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,520 again, when this platform blows up, I just want to be able to say, Hey, I was there. I remember. 118 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:15,760 I remember that first episode. It was blowing up. Everybody that followed me, follow Angel. 119 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:21,520 That's right. And through North, this is the real deal. I know her before she was famous. 120 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:28,720 And she was definitely a woman of God, even as a young as a young teenager, to 13 years ago. 121 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,320 And we praise God for the family and the cloth that she's been cut from in these 122 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:38,000 samples that have been shown to her that she's able to stand out. So follow Angel, follow her. 123 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:43,360 That's right. What's your Instagram? 23 is only Angel. It's only underscore Angel. 124 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,200 Yep. And it don't matter what day you look at her post, it's still going to be about Jesus. 125 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,600 She's not going to be like on demon time one day and then the next time to a prayer, 126 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,520 she's going to be doing the same thing. It's consistent. 127 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:58,720 Exactly. No, that's a good thing. One of the things I've never talked to you about that I 128 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:07,680 I'm like about you, Angel, is the fact that when your mom is down and when she's ill and has some 129 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:13,120 health issues, you're always right there by her side to help her to assist her. And she's told me 130 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:19,280 on several occasions that you're really handy around the house. And so that's good. Because I 131 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,720 believe the Bible says, be not deceived. God is not mocked for what's over a man so up that 132 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:31,280 she'll also reap. And I think when you plant those seeds and you do good works towards those who 133 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,960 have helped to raise you, those who have helped to house you, those that feed you, I believe those 134 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:42,080 come back hundredfold. So keep planting those seeds. That's a good thing. That's God. That's what God's 135 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:47,120 all about. You know, like I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her. Like she was willing to open her 136 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:53,680 house to me and my sister. Wow. And she was like not even, I don't think a four year even us to 137 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:59,440 stay with her. She's like, I want to adopt you guys. Is that okay? I'm like, of course. Yeah, 138 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,720 no, that's nice. And she wasn't a crazy foster parent. Like you see, here are so many horror 139 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:10,160 stories of people opening up their doors in the name of whatever and it's no Jesus in it and the 140 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:15,360 people are crazy. So God's hand has, yeah, or they just want to check. So God's hand was definitely 141 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,640 a pine tree and I'm glad that there are people in foster care that are doing it as ministry and 142 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:26,080 are doing it the way that it was designed to do instead of just sitting back trying to supplement 143 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:31,600 their income and whatever other craziness that goes on in those homes. May God bless those children 144 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,560 that they heal, that they might move forward and not be tainted by the examples that they see in 145 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:42,240 those homes of perversion. And we do gotta mention that Sister Sandra Perry knows how to put her foot 146 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:51,200 in the food. Oh my God, you're my big father. Listen, lady J don't like, she don't like nor patronize 147 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:56,560 everybody's food. But Sister Perry trusts me and believes. I don't know if you remember that time 148 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:03,920 you brought that whole big old back of that month. With the foil, food be so good. You take your 149 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:12,880 finger and just run it across the foil. I hope you're taking copious notes, C-O-P-I-U-S, copious 150 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:20,000 notes when it comes to cooking because the lady, she's really, and I'm not saying that to be, 151 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:26,000 you know, whatever the word can be, you know, sometimes you say things. Patronize. 152 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:32,400 To patronize or to flatter someone. No, no, no, those are lies. The lady can cook. She can cook. 153 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,440 She can season the food. No, she knows what she's doing. She got all the seasonings. 154 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Yeah. And every season. The, what's that, the paprika, all of it, the garlic salt, the garlic 155 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:53,760 powder, all of it. I can just taste it in there. Yeah, she's good. I had to mention that because 156 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,360 that's an experience to the real deal. But no, but I appreciate how you support the family, 157 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,400 your family person. So, Amesha, so what's in your future? What are you looking to do? You're a young 158 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,880 lady now and you graduated from high school. Kind of, you know, what are some of the things that 159 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:17,280 you're looking forward to in the season in your life? Right now in this season, I'm like really 160 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:23,360 wanting to focus on growing the podcast, you know, getting more people to come on the podcast, 161 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:29,200 you know, get it out there more. Because this, like my generation, like, because people that I 162 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:34,960 graduated with, I graduated in 2022. Oh, okay. And so some of the people I've graduated with are 163 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:41,040 having babies now. Yeah. And just like one of the things that I graduated with, 164 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:47,760 a few of them got arrested, having babies, it's like, like, yeah, wow. We need the same. Like 165 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:54,000 you're all 21 years old. Being thrust into motherhood, for all those who are out there to 166 00:16:54,000 --> 00:17:01,840 have children, God bless you because I can't even imagine I'm a man number one. But even as a man, 167 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:10,640 having a child that young without a wife, and it's just incredible amount of work. And also, 168 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:17,440 from a financial and economic standpoint, you know, your birthing children, and don't take this 169 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:24,000 wrong anybody, but your birthing them usually into poverty. And because if you can't sustain and take 170 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:30,800 care of yourself, and now you have another mouth to feed, I mean, instantly, you're put into the 171 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:36,400 system. And if you're not in the system, then you have an incredible amount of support coming from 172 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:43,040 home. And if you're getting that support from mom or dad or from grandma or granddad or from one of 173 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:49,440 your siblings, really thank God and really be appreciative of that support. Because it's a 174 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:55,920 very difficult thing to raise a child when you're practically still dependent and not independent. 175 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:01,680 So shout out to the single mothers that are doing their best to make it happen and sacrifice them 176 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:07,200 because they kids so their kids can have when they going without and the GMAs and all the people 177 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:13,360 and the support and the aunties that's stepping up and the grand everybody shout out because you 178 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:18,080 know it does take a village but most importantly it takes the Lord. So I'm just happy to sit here 179 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:24,240 with a young lady that knew the Lord at an early age that her grandmother sold those seeds so grandma's 180 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:30,240 and GMAs don't get weary and well doing and take them kids to church. You can see from this young 181 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:35,120 woman that those seeds are our planet. It works. It works. It works. It works. It works. It works. 182 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:39,520 So we've been asking you what kind of questions you got with us. What you want to know? 183 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:50,240 Well how did you find your calling? Well your true north so to say and your music. Out of pain. Out of 184 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:57,280 pain. Out of life. You know I've gone through things and seen other people that I love go through 185 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,960 things and it's sort of like I don't know if anybody's ever watched Living Color but there was this 186 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,920 man on there he said wrote a song about it when he had ego and a lot of the conversations that I 187 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,600 would try to have they weren't readily received by those that I loved who were in those bondages. 188 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,840 So I thought if I put it to the music if I allowed the Holy Spirit to work through me 189 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:21,040 and to put it to music not only would the Lord be able to take the music to where it needs to go 190 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:26,560 and get possibly my family and loved ones to listen but to other individuals who are going 191 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:31,440 through the same thing. So a lot of my music or most of my music or all of my music first of all 192 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,080 my sister's going to always be about the Lord you know I go have to doubt or wonder if I'm singing 193 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:42,960 about pastor and my love for him and I do love pastor. So when I put it on the track it's about 194 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:50,800 Jesus. So you know and I just always try to make that message clear that he is our hope and in the 195 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,840 time of storm so I hope that it continues to encourage people and if you follow me make sure 196 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:03,120 you follow Angel and listen to the podcast every week. So yeah that's that's how I got 197 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:08,560 mine a lot of prayer a lot of fasting just being humbled and being in that space where you allow 198 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:14,800 yourself to be transparent that's the hardest thing about it the transparency that comes with 199 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:20,400 doing ministry sometimes you don't want everybody in your business in to know everything 200 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,960 but then the Holy Spirit will give the unction and the Holy Spirit will release you to share those 201 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,920 things that you would normally share and to have that confidence in God to know you know what it's 202 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,240 okay for me to share because what I went through is for someone else and that's what I pray the music 203 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:44,560 continues to do. Okay very um another question that I have for both of you actually is um do you see 204 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:52,560 a difference in the way that you know this my generation compared to your generation um serves 205 00:20:52,560 --> 00:21:00,160 Lord like do you see any like differences or like anything compared to like when it was you first 206 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:06,160 came in the church as to now. Yeah well I guess I'll kick it off just just a couple of things 207 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:13,040 that just drop into my mind I think that any generation is a reflection of the culture of 208 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:19,840 the world at that time and so when I was coming up when you come to church you have to dress your 209 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:27,040 best so you always had to have your best clothes on when you come to church. I come from a generation 210 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:40,880 where respect is not just wanted or tolerated respect is mandatory and so yes ma'am no ma'am yes sir 211 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:47,520 no sir that's the kind of culture that I grew up in and I believe that those things transcended in 212 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,240 the church I think there was more respect in the church there was more order in the church 213 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,960 some things some ways it was good some ways maybe not so good maybe it was a little stuffy 214 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:04,800 and I think if I try to compare and contrast it to right now right now let's say you know just 215 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:10,560 wear whatever you want to wear come as you are it's kind of like that um young people have a voice 216 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:15,680 it wasn't just sit over in this corner and shut up or just you know do what you're told 217 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:21,360 or this is grown people's conversation I think now in this culture I think young people are more 218 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:27,040 the ones who are saved who are in the church they're more active and I think that their expression 219 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:35,520 is is not as narrow as it was back before I think before you had you had young people who 220 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:41,920 would work in ministry but they were always under the tutelage of an adult but now I see 221 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,960 now I see ministries where young people are doing like a singles ministry and things like that and 222 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:53,440 the pastors give them you know full reign hey do it the way you see fit and so when you bring in 223 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:59,440 the culture rap and you know I heard my wife introduced me they have uh gospel trap music 224 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:06,560 now I would never think that that would be a genre in the church gospel trap now the old me 225 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:13,200 would have said oh no there's no place for that but I'm more open minded now because I'm going to 226 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:19,680 listen to the music and really listen to those lyrics yeah to see if those lyrics are winding up 227 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:28,640 with the attributes and the characteristics of the lord okay so there was a song uh lady jay 228 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:35,200 helped me with it I struggle with it because it says something about um god holy ghost when you're 229 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,320 going to pull up or something like that remember that song a lot pulling up or something I was like 230 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:48,160 oh my goodness why because I have the type of reverence I have for god god is never my boy 231 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:56,080 he ain't my dude he ain't you know he he's not on that level with I don't have that type god is god 232 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:01,840 supreme you know what I mean and so I think that there are liberties with the young culture now 233 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,720 and how they have their relationship with god I'm not here to knock it I'm just saying my 234 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,440 perception is a little bit different because I grew up in a different era yeah and in that era 235 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:18,480 the culture was different how I converse with my parents and if I converse with my parents with a 236 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:24,720 high degree of respect how much more am I going to have respect for god so I think the difference 237 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:32,240 is the culture which is the music which is the language and it's how we dress yeah I agree with 238 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:38,720 that I still but I still believe that you know there's nothing new under the sun today's culture 239 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:46,560 today's young person is no different than last the the models two models ago you know grandma's 240 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:52,880 model and all that so yes the culture has changed in the shaping of it but the people people still 241 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:59,440 want to do what they want to do and people still fight those boundaries you know I think the major 242 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:07,840 difference between your culture and the cultures before is accountability we were from a do as 243 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:16,960 you're told do it do as I say not as I do culture and your culture is we're not with that you need 244 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,240 to be held accountable I saw what you did and you called the wrongs wrongs and you call the 245 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,840 rights rights and you cancel the people that you feel need to be canceled because they aren't doing 246 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:34,160 right by other people and I think that that level of accountability is something that's shocking 247 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,520 to older people because older people feel like you know now that I'm of age everyone should do 248 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,880 A, B, and C but your generation is like no we're not we're not doing that and as far as how they 249 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,080 worship and how they come to church I really feel like it's the last days and the pouring of God's 250 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:56,400 spirit is leading young people both in the church and outside the four walls of the church for example 251 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:02,800 True North gotta listen to the podcast so you know people like angel people like yourself 252 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:09,600 that are going out and that are not following this spiritualism but are truly following in our 253 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:15,200 being ambassadors for Jesus Christ I believe the Lord is going to elevate and so I'm just looking 254 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,160 forward to seeing all of the mighty things and the works that you're going to do for him and how 255 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:26,800 he's going to elevate you in this season because it's so needed and that's the difference you don't 256 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:32,400 need an okay or an approval from anyone to step forward in the things of God you got your own 257 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:38,960 personal relationship and I think that there is a place for that I praise God that you know you 258 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:44,000 talked to pastor about the things that you're doing in God but I also praise God that you're not afraid 259 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,520 to do them and that's the major difference and and how I feel your generation moves different 260 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,800 than past generations they're not given things to do by people they're hearing what they need to do 261 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:05,440 from God I like that I would tend to agree with most of that I think just add on is that what the 262 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:12,240 young people find out though when they hold you know individuals that they would hold in high 263 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:18,960 esteem when they hold them accountable that it is a wake up call for the adults but then I think 264 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:25,760 for the young people who do that they get to learn when they get older they'll understand 265 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:33,440 how their parents move and how those how elders move because then now they're walking into Mockensons 266 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:41,200 and because of the challenges that come with life and the problems and the issues then they find out 267 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:47,040 what life is really about it's hard to understand life when you only see one perspective living in 268 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,920 a particular hall and some things you may not like some things you may not agree with but when 269 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,520 you get that out there on your own and now you can blaze your own trail so to speak then you'll 270 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:04,000 find out what life is all about and what that becomes comes maturity right and with that also comes 271 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:10,480 an appreciation even though mom and dad they maybe get everything right you know you're appreciative 272 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:17,040 of the fact that they did the best thing could yeah so it's a great time for us I've grown so much 273 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,000 through the Lord through my children they've taught me so many things about me 274 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,200 and I and you know I couldn't do that with my parents no way because I had no voice in my house 275 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,680 there was one voice that was my dad's voice right I still hear it in the back of my head 276 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:41,600 I didn't have a voice whereas my kids we've allowed them a platform 277 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,040 to have a voice you know now you're supposed to come you're supposed to come with respect 278 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:56,400 but it's only because of God if God was an operator in my life oh I'd be like my more like my dad in 279 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:04,160 a lot of areas but thank God for evolution all right we're evolving yeah and my faith to faith 280 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,120 because like growing up in the church like I've been to quite a few different churches because 281 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,720 I've been to quite a few different houses got you um because after my grandmother passed we went 282 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,960 with my aunt and then my aunt got sick and then we moved in with her cousin and then my mom went to 283 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,960 prison and then we had to move again back with my aunt and then back with another cousin oh my 284 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:31,120 goodness you see the households just back and forth and then my mom's cousin who we were actually 285 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,040 staying with while she was in prison they were the ones that actually put us in the system 286 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,320 okay and so my mom actually didn't even know that we were in the system until she got a hope 287 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,320 yeah so she didn't even know we were in the foster care until she got out of 288 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:52,000 and so and she couldn't get us back to shoot you know she was just fresh out of prison for 289 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,000 God knows what reason right you know I don't I don't pry about it because you know that's between her 290 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:04,080 and God I don't need to know she served her time she's doing good yeah but I love the fact that 291 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:13,360 you don't appear at least to me to harbor any resentment or bitterness over being put in the 292 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:21,040 system right because the system actually benefited you got linked up with who you're with now so 293 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:26,400 wow look that's a custom that really show how God had his hands because something yeah he did it you 294 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,440 don't think about angel tree all the time and we have to talk that you know some people that come 295 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,280 through that foster system have gone through they are there messed up they went through some heinous 296 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:42,400 serious abuse you know we thank God that God has his hand on yeah like I don't have any hard 297 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,840 feelings or it's you know my mom the people that put us in the system like you know like I could 298 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,400 have been off a lot worse if I hadn't been put in the system me and Alicia right you know we could 299 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,920 have been dead somewhere you know it makes me think I like the story of Moses when they were 300 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,440 in a bad situation because they had paid the creed that they were going to murder all of those kids 301 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:09,920 so then she sent her baby up the river and then she he ended up in the palace you know and I think 302 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:15,120 that maybe them putting you in that system is what kept you out of harm's way it was like them 303 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,800 sending you being sending Moses up the river up the Nile and then you landed in a place where you 304 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,440 should be that you know the Lord could continue to keep you whole and protect you and your sister 305 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:31,360 so yeah it's that's a blessing that's a blessing and I like the way you're so transparent about it 306 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:37,040 and Candid I know that's gonna minister to a lot of a lot of young people you don't see you don't 307 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:44,160 see people who've come from those situations readily share and talk about the benefits of it you 308 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:51,360 know when it's done in the right way and for the right reasons yeah yeah and like all of us because 309 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:58,320 she because we're obviously not her first foster kids you know she's had other foster kids and I 310 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:05,040 don't think because I think Lisa was the only kid she ever actually fully adopted from what I remember 311 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:11,040 her telling me if I'm not mistaken but me Alicia and Lisa I believe are the only ones she ever 312 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:18,480 adopted okay um that's awesome that is awesome now we can say so that's why we love sister pair 313 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,680 real gospel love mr. pair 314 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:32,560 how you start it's how you finish and so um god has a plan for your life 315 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:40,160 yep you can't thwart it you can't get around it's amazing it's amazing and so you're gonna find that 316 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:47,360 you know just serving god and being with god he's going to allow you to navigate through this world 317 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:53,520 and you listen to him his plans are just amazing so yeah and it's funny because I actually had the 318 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:59,680 idea of starting a podcast um while I was still in high school and I didn't start it because I 319 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,800 ended up praying about it it's like it's not your season yet yeah and so I set it aside 320 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:12,800 and then I just recently came back to it right about it so I do it right that's good and I love 321 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:18,640 how sometimes god does you know he plants that seed and tells you okay this is what's going to 322 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,960 transpire but then doesn't happen immediately right then sometimes there's a season of cultivation 323 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,600 right where you got to go through different things and experience different things and then he says okay 324 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:35,520 but I told you back then now is the time yeah and then you know you carpet the end which means the 325 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:41,120 seeds the day you seize the moment and you walk forward in the face of god so that's awesome yeah 326 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,880 and like who's with Alicia she also grew up in the church but obviously she's not as much in church 327 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:53,120 as she was when we were growing up which is totally fine um all of my siblings got kids no I'm the 328 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,040 only one that don't got no kids oh quite frankly I don't want no kids right now they can keep them 329 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,760 I'll be the god until I watch okay it's free like I don't watch them for a couple hours but they 330 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,600 gotta go home right you know I don't know anybody that's young that has a season where they don't 331 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,560 kind of like you know you know I still love the Lord but right now especially when you have kids 332 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,640 and they're young it's hard getting all them people ready and trying to get them to come to church 333 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:24,560 but you know uh you just keep continuing to pray like I said shout out to the single moms 334 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:31,840 it is not easy I have two sisters who were uh single parents and I saw how how they struggled 335 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:37,840 but how they made it through in fact my one sister she'll be an empty nester soon so um I just thank 336 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:43,600 god for the journey and thank god for being able to be a witness of how his grace and mercy will 337 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:54,400 make up the gap when uh maybe the dads move amen amen yeah this me and all of my siblings are all 338 00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:00,400 three years apart the biggest gap is Alicia and my brother they're five years apart oh they're fine 339 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:06,480 okay yeah but everyone else is three years apart and I find it hilarious because everyone every 340 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,520 single us one of them has two kids they all had their boy first and then they had their girl wow 341 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:19,360 so in the packing order you are Alicia's how many years older than you three three and then your 342 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:27,680 brother is how many years eight eight okay so he's the oldest okay gosh uh no my oldest sister 343 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:34,320 Tashay she's the oldest she's 32 okay she's 32 yeah good deal good deal so you gotta let me know when 344 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:41,120 this is going air so I could put it all over my Instagram her just Instagram we'd be like hey um 345 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:49,760 um I should have everything um edited and uploaded if not um buy it today or tomorrow it'll be 346 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,440 definitely be out by Monday okay all right good send us the links on the charoels I think I think 347 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:02,160 it's gonna be important for you to you know just be real with your audience and you know I don't 348 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,040 know a lot about social media I've learned a lot from my wife I don't know how to navigate through 349 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:13,920 a lot of the apps I don't so I don't want to learn I'm just gonna preach because I don't want to get 350 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:22,320 caught up it's too much it is a lot it's it's a lot I mean you know there's an investment of time 351 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,240 and I'm learning you know my wife's been teaching me some things and I listen to the thing she said 352 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:34,320 she might not think I do but I do but one of the things is that you have to have consistent content 353 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:40,000 yeah people look you lose the people online if you don't have consistent content there I mean some 354 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,640 people they will don't follow you to the ends of the earth but you have to have consistent 355 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:51,040 I mean they're looking for you yeah they don't see you if you're not readily available then they're 356 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:57,200 gone yeah it's hard to get them back once they're gone yeah even though they don't tell you they leave 357 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:03,280 okay so if they follow you they're still following you but they're not following you yeah so 358 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:09,920 sometimes that can create a gap where you think you have all these followers you know on TikTok I 359 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:17,520 have 5,000 followers whoo whoo but they don't know the Bible is still on Wednesday the stream's been 360 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:24,880 canceled now because I don't have anybody looking at it so I see others that are doing well with 361 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,120 their ministry on tiktok but they're on it all the time you can worry about tiktok because they 362 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:35,520 have canceled the tiktok when is that leaving in a couple months yeah yeah hold on hold on hold on 363 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:41,360 you don't know breaking news you're not on social media that's why you don't know Angel what happened 364 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,840 to tiktok they're they're banning it they did wait wait hold on hold on it's completely gone now 365 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:53,840 wait wait hold on so when I was looking at it the house representatives voted to ban it but then 366 00:37:53,840 --> 00:38:00,400 the Senate had it so the Senate voted it'll be gone in a few months it's over wait wait wait 367 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,880 it's over they're not gonna purchase it no no why would they sell it we only make up like 368 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:12,080 so wait wait wait hold on y'all this is good this is wrong breaking for me so wait a minute wait 369 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:20,720 wait so you're telling me right now that the current ownership of tiktok is not willing to sell 370 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:25,920 why would they want to do that well they would want to do that lady jay because when they look at 371 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,400 the current viewership and how much money they're making off that millions of people in the US 372 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:38,720 nope you stand to lose that the US doesn't even make up a tenth of what they are worldwide so why 373 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:45,280 would they say hey we don't make up a 10% if you don't sell it we're not gonna get out less than 10% 374 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:53,040 so we lose our voice in tiktok so who's so who's gonna pick up those those um what do you call 375 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,800 now providers really call the the people who make content the content makers what do you call them 376 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,680 I don't know but I changed they have to switch platforms now so what platform is going to be 377 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,120 been officially but it's gonna be the algorithms it's gonna be people want to tiktok from 378 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:17,200 them I know this they went to tiktok from IG so are they gonna go back so who's the new what's 379 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,800 the new platform that people are going to write because right now it's in the air from tiktok 380 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,400 or not tiktok instagram and youtube those are the only two places that they can go so wait a minute 381 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:34,800 how can they that tweet hold on let me ask a question for you so how can they how are they 382 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,960 going to success with Bennett the app won't be available it won't be available anymore but wait a 383 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:47,600 minute but if you have a virtual private network of vpm and say I set my vpm to Europe and Europe 384 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:55,520 has tiktok then I could get Europe was so most like we have to talk I changed my country to Europe 385 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:02,320 hey when they first when they first was going to bed because I was like I gotta see tiktok 386 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,600 but they probably don't know because of my bpm whatever but I was just like 387 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:13,760 so this is no appellate court that's going to look at appealing okay what did the people when did 388 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:20,000 this happen this happened fairly recently yeah it happened very recently where they were talking 389 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,360 about banding it was there any type of protest or anything not that I know of because honestly 390 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,760 people know people were they had their signs of this stuff yeah because they've been talking about 391 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,960 banning tiktok for like three years now but see that's what's so interesting about it because they 392 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,320 weren't going to ban tiktok in like 2022 when I graduated yeah they were they were talking about 393 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:49,120 how like unfortunately our congressional workers they're the least productive they were saying of 394 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,960 like so many different congresses they've had throughout the years so one of the things that 395 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,400 they were saying is um you know all these protests about guns you guys going to school and not 396 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:04,160 worrying about getting shot all these protests about black lives matters about health care 397 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:11,440 nothing was done but they can come together and make an unbiased and reach uh and reach across the 398 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:18,640 aisle to band the one thing that most americans have loved and learned to enjoy especially during 399 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:27,040 covid yeah tiktok and it's so sad you know we can't do anything about hot wages but we can 400 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,080 come together reach across the aisle for tiktok yeah because they were saying that we're going to 401 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,720 ban tiktok like a while ago and then it just never happened and they're like yeah we're just going 402 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:41,520 to ban it now I'm for good maybe because they can get associated with us said no tiktok will not 403 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:47,040 suddenly disappear from your phone nor will you go to jail if you continue using it after it's banned 404 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:55,760 okay how are we going to continue to use it though because once you delete the app okay I don't think 405 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:08,400 you can reinstall it every tablet I have oh they have a little bit of time okay they got nine months 406 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:15,280 to sell the company yeah they're not they're not gonna sell it they're not gonna sell it 407 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:21,040 don't go through for them to say that's like being a bully wow we don't like the algorithms that we 408 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,480 can't control so it'll be at least a year before the ban goes into effect so we don't like the 409 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:30,160 algorithms that we can't control the information yeah nor can we make money out of it you got to 410 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:37,840 sell it or we're gonna be in it yeah the elder is so mad because I can't control people right 411 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:43,520 and I'm telling you it was a lot of people getting educated on that like about black history for me it 412 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,400 was the native american history yeah like you know seeing the things that happened and looking at their 413 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,760 congress their their meetings and how they do business and it was and seeing what the reservation 414 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,960 looks like one other countries seeing what's really happening like with these wars and you know 415 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,920 on snapchat if you go to snapchat if you look at the map and you click on the in the map you can 416 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:11,200 see what's actually happening in those places like so yeah it's amazing um because it's actually 417 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:17,600 because it's inside because it's one actor he's um he's indian he got his brain cut off somebody 418 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:23,680 coming to the hate crime against him cut his brain off and the like they beat him up drug him in the 419 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,640 woods and cut his brain off and it was good people getting canceled I mean you go out here acting crazy 420 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:34,720 if you want to and then they post your video now you can't work you go off your job that's not funny 421 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:43,520 I gotta read this it's not funny but it's so it's amusing so india banned tiktok back in 2020 422 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:51,440 so how did the people react it said tiktok users and content creators needed a place to go and the 423 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,960 band provided a multi-billion dollar opportunity to snatch up a big market within months google 424 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,560 rolled out youtube shorts I remember when those came out and instagram pushed out its reals feature 425 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:11,360 both mimic the short form video creation at tiktok edits yeah they designed no it doesn't feel as organic 426 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,280 just tiktok you know 427 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,560 yeah interesting 428 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:29,120 yeah like it's everything is going downhill like it's just it's crazy 429 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,720 it's the way it stays 430 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:36,160 what a perfect what a perfect time for your podcast because everything's going downhill 431 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:42,160 we look at downhill as being soft but we look in the go true north hey so what's your true 432 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,800 what is your true so your podcast is timely because true north means we're going in the 433 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:54,640 direction that god would have us to go even though everything looks to be going to pop yeah so that's 434 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:59,680 a good thing so let it keep going south because true north is still going to seek the lord why 435 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:06,080 because the bible says that we look to the hills from much coming by hell knowing all our help comes 436 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:13,760 from the lord that's a good thing but i want to thank you for having me today i appreciate 437 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:20,320 it this is good i appreciate the platform to all the young people hey young people be sure to follow 438 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:28,320 me artificially lady remember i was talking lady j you want to hear gospel music 439 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:36,240 mm-hmm of a view gospel music tune into real gospel so you can show up at the church and hear the real 440 00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:44,560 gospel but if you want the music to go with it go to officially lady j right no but this this was 441 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:52,720 amazing thank you let this be just something that fuels you to continue to go higher yes 442 00:45:52,720 --> 00:46:00,640 be encourage just be encouraged just do what god has called you to do and your your name is be fitting 443 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:07,280 in the bible times people were named certain names not because of how the name was spelled but what 444 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:16,960 the name meant and so angel means a messenger for god so that's what you do uses fine things 445 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:23,760 to be who god called you to be which is a messenger for god and hopefully it will get to me some of 446 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:30,880 your viewers at one of our services hopefully you're a real gospel on facebook or instagram or 447 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:38,800 tiktok to list cancel i think tiktok is like pastor tl tl wilson on tiktok it's no real 448 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:52,080 gospel on tiktok just the facebook real gospel one yeah we got a year ago yeah we got a little bit of time all right thank you well thank you guys for being part of the podcast on the very first episode 449 00:46:52,080 --> 00:47:08,640 i appreciate it yeah till next time love you guys