Hi guys, welcome back to True North. My name is Angel and today I have two very
special guests with me, Pastor T.L. Wilson, pastor of Royal Gospel Missionary Baptist
Church and his beautiful wife, a recording artist officially Lady J. Hi guys.
Hello. Hey Angel, how are you? I'm great. How are you guys? I'm doing well. I just feel so
privileged and honored to be a part of your podcast. Thank you so much for having us on.
Yeah and I just love to be a part of anything that's the inaugural. You know, I love that
you know, I like to be the first. I like to be on something that's on the breaking ground.
So really a privilege and honor to be here. Well thank you guys for agreeing to come on
because I was a little scared. But yeah, as you guys can tell, this is the first episode and the
title of this episode is Getting Real and I found it very fitting to be in real gospel,
getting real conversations with the pastor and his wife. Okay, yeah, that's real.
Well you know that Lady J, that's part of our mantra, what we stand for, you know, real people,
real issues. We serve a real God and call ourselves real gospel. Amen. Praise God.
So I'm like, I don't know where to start. Well I guess the first question is like,
how did you guys come like into the church? Like were you like, when you first came into the church,
like what was your standards or like mindset when you guys first came into church?
Well when I first came into church, I was a kid, so I was drug and made to go and my mindset was
to really not be there and how long is this gonna last. But as I got older and more mature, the things
of the Lord, even at a young age, I knew that I needed Christ. So I'd asked the Lord about age six
to come into my heart and to fill me with this Holy Spirit and he did just that. And I can't say
that I've walked without, without shortcomings, but I can say that I know the Lord in the
parting of my sins and I thank God that he's a redeeming God. Wow. So for me, my story, yeah,
little bit somewhat, but different as well. I lived in Maple Heights, grew up in Maple Heights,
and my parents would make us go to church. We had a church right on our corner. So Mount Moriah,
a church, AME church. And so my little brother and I, we used to watch Davey and Goliath on TV
in the morning and they would go off at 9.30 and then we'd walk to the corner church and
and, you know, my parents never came to that church. They just made us go. So because I was made to go,
I asked my daddy, when did, when could I stop going to church? And he said, when you get grown.
So one of the first things I did when I got grown is I didn't go to church anymore. So when I went
off to college, I didn't go to church or anything. And I got back introduced to church by my sister
who belonged to a Baptist church. And I went there. And that's when I got saved. And then I got the
Holy Spirit after I met my lovely wife. She introduced me to the deeper things of God. So that's
kind of not true at all. Okay, okay. So my question for you, pastor, what made you want to become a
pastor? So it wasn't that I desired to become a pastor. What had actually happened is that
my wife and I, we went on a fast. And as a result of that fast, the Lord spoke through me and as my
wife wrote those things down. And part of what was said was that we should start a ministry. And
that's what we did back in. When was that? That was back in, and excuse me, that was... Back in the day.
Way back in the day. January 1st of 2005. And so January 1st of 2005, that's when we started
Real Gospel Missionary Baptist Church. And at that point, the Lord told us to start a ministry. We
started in our home and we did weekly Bible studies every Wednesday. And then we did that from
2005 to 2007. And then the Lord blessed us with a building, our first building. And that was in
Oakwood Village. And so we rented a building there. And that's when we started the church back in June
of 2007. What's been doing it ever since. I actually remember the Oldville Dines. You remember the
Oldville Dines? Yeah. That was the first time I actually ever came to the church in 2011. I mean,
2011. Wow. That was the first time. You've been with us for 13 years. Oh my goodness. That's amazing.
Time really goes fast. It goes real fast. It's a real girl. Yeah, that's where me, Alicia,
Lisa and Kajal did our first praise dance at. That's right. We was ahead of the game,
though, because they had to drag you into the church. You wanted to come, and so... So how did
you go into our world of gospel back in 2011? My foster mom, Miss Sandra, I love her. She...
Because I think we came... When we first came into her home, it was like a Wednesday, I think it was.
And well, Alicia had actually already been there, my sister Alicia. She was already there because
she was doing breastfit there. And then I came in like a week later. And so she was like, yeah,
they can come stay with me. Well, she was willing to foster us, thankfully. Oh, wow. It was awesome.
And she actually brought us to the church. But she was... We weren't even officially in her care
at that point. We were technically doing breastfit with her at that point. Got you. Before she actually
renewed her license to foster us. And so she brought us to the church, and that's where we
actually met both of you. Oh, my goodness. So that's funny because the way I met your mom is that
I did a memorial service for one of our members. And it was at a funeral home. And I did that. And
she said from hearing that particular presentation of the gospel and doing that particular service,
she followed up in this hard of a church. Yeah, I love you guys. We love you.
Because after like that first Sunday, like we were ever here, like I'm like,
this is it. Well, you know, the one thing I know my wife probably have her own sentiments and
echo maybe some of it is the fact that you're so humble. You're humble in the things of God. And
I think that's one of the greatest attributes that a human can have when we accept Christ and
we're humble about it. You know, and when we humble ourselves, the Bible says that he will
exalt us. He's the one that lifts us up. So you've always been so sweet, so nice. And you know,
you know, sometimes we don't like young people because we have kids. We love our children,
right? But we love angel. But you're so nice, you're respectful always. And we truly, truly,
we appreciate that. Thank you. I was just kidding. Is it true? Is it true? We do, we do, we do.
Too much pain in the kid. You know, you like orange soda too. I do like orange soda. I do,
I do, I do. I ain't your baby though. Oh, yeah, you've been, you've been great. I love it when
I look back at the old video of you and my son and you got in the car and did the little skit.
No, that was Alicia, actually. That wasn't me. That was Alicia. He was crossing the street.
You were crossing the street. Yeah. Yeah. They were yelling at you and bumping the
horn. Yeah. So if you've never seen it, they'll too real nice for you too. And I will probably
put, I'm gonna post it on Instagram. And that's the one next week. So follow us there.
All right. So how was your experience coming to the church and being the age that you were
back then? It was, it was different for me because I don't even know. Like I've always
grown up in the church. No matter what foster home I was in, I always found a way to get to church.
Okay. Didn't know that. No matter what. Because that's from my grandmother. She introduced me
up to church at a very young age. She's the one that baptized me the first time actually. Oh wow.
Yeah. And that was from her because I remember it because I was actually with her when she passed
away. And I just, the one thing I remember her always telling me, no matter where you are,
find a church to go to. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's such a blessing when you're with your loved one,
when they transition. Yeah. That's a blessing. It's nothing like it to see them cross over.
Even at a young age it teaches you about life and the fragility of life and that there is a life
after, you know what I mean? Yeah. And so it's good that you were exposed to that to be able to see
that, yeah, part of life is definitely going on to be with the Lord. So yeah. And I remember when
I first came into the church at the old location, I instantly fell in love with it. Like I just felt
amazing energy as soon as I walked in. Oh wow. And like I felt like my grandmother was there with
us. Well, yeah, this is definitely going to be the church I'll be staying at. Oh wow. The one thing
I like about the church is, you know, a lot of times people play church, act like there's something
that they're not, but I really feel it's still like the people that the Lord has allowed to come
through the doors are real people. They don't put on any heirs. They are who they are. And we're all
just trying to get better and the things of the Lord that we might see Jesus and our loved ones
again, shouldn't we die in Christ? Yeah. You know, I, I agree with that, like Jay. And for me, it's
all about being transparent because when I first got introduced to church, I said, oh my gosh,
the pastor, this person is so high and lifted up. Oh my gosh, how can ever be like him? But I found
out that pastors are just men like other men. They know who the Lord is. And so I wanted to make sure
that I don't just, I communicate the life of Christ and the goodness of Christ. But also,
when the Lord tells me, I talk about some of my weaknesses and the things that I have to overcome
so that people can understand that this walk that we walk, it's not perfect. No, not at all.
It's not perfect. So like at the end of the day, we're all human. We all make mistakes. We all make
mistakes. No one is perfect. But God, but God, he's only perfect one. And so we strive for perfection.
But at times we fall short. Yeah. But remember, he said that my strength is made perfect so we can
glory in our infirmities knowing that when we're weak, God is strong. So.
But yeah, I had to come and be a part of this. I'm so thankful for you to be a young lady and
you're not trying to make a twerk video. You're not trying to dance with the red light on. I'm just,
I'm just praising God because it's so needed for your generation to have and that the Lord is still
raising up young people that know him, that really know him and live according to his word in every
aspect, not to be not to your perfect person. I don't know you and I be a perfect person.
But I do praise God that you have the boldness, the Holy Ghost boldness to stand forward and to
stand out in Jesus's name. So yeah, it was, it was always, it was a yes for me before you even say
something. I'm like, I can't do this. Let's do it. Yeah. So you have a platform. The Lord is giving
you a platform. And when the Lord gives you a platform, he gives you an anointing to be able
to operate in that platform to serve him and to do his will and to do his purpose. And so
again, when this platform blows up, I just want to be able to say, Hey, I was there. I remember.
I remember that first episode. It was blowing up. Everybody that followed me, follow Angel.
That's right. And through North, this is the real deal. I know her before she was famous.
And she was definitely a woman of God, even as a young as a young teenager, to 13 years ago.
And we praise God for the family and the cloth that she's been cut from in these
samples that have been shown to her that she's able to stand out. So follow Angel, follow her.
That's right. What's your Instagram? 23 is only Angel. It's only underscore Angel.
Yep. And it don't matter what day you look at her post, it's still going to be about Jesus.
She's not going to be like on demon time one day and then the next time to a prayer,
she's going to be doing the same thing. It's consistent.
Exactly. No, that's a good thing. One of the things I've never talked to you about that I
I'm like about you, Angel, is the fact that when your mom is down and when she's ill and has some
health issues, you're always right there by her side to help her to assist her. And she's told me
on several occasions that you're really handy around the house. And so that's good. Because I
believe the Bible says, be not deceived. God is not mocked for what's over a man so up that
she'll also reap. And I think when you plant those seeds and you do good works towards those who
have helped to raise you, those who have helped to house you, those that feed you, I believe those
come back hundredfold. So keep planting those seeds. That's a good thing. That's God. That's what God's
all about. You know, like I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her. Like she was willing to open her
house to me and my sister. Wow. And she was like not even, I don't think a four year even us to
stay with her. She's like, I want to adopt you guys. Is that okay? I'm like, of course. Yeah,
no, that's nice. And she wasn't a crazy foster parent. Like you see, here are so many horror
stories of people opening up their doors in the name of whatever and it's no Jesus in it and the
people are crazy. So God's hand has, yeah, or they just want to check. So God's hand was definitely
a pine tree and I'm glad that there are people in foster care that are doing it as ministry and
are doing it the way that it was designed to do instead of just sitting back trying to supplement
their income and whatever other craziness that goes on in those homes. May God bless those children
that they heal, that they might move forward and not be tainted by the examples that they see in
those homes of perversion. And we do gotta mention that Sister Sandra Perry knows how to put her foot
in the food. Oh my God, you're my big father. Listen, lady J don't like, she don't like nor patronize
everybody's food. But Sister Perry trusts me and believes. I don't know if you remember that time
you brought that whole big old back of that month. With the foil, food be so good. You take your
finger and just run it across the foil. I hope you're taking copious notes, C-O-P-I-U-S, copious
notes when it comes to cooking because the lady, she's really, and I'm not saying that to be,
you know, whatever the word can be, you know, sometimes you say things. Patronize.
To patronize or to flatter someone. No, no, no, those are lies. The lady can cook. She can cook.
She can season the food. No, she knows what she's doing. She got all the seasonings.
Yeah. And every season. The, what's that, the paprika, all of it, the garlic salt, the garlic
powder, all of it. I can just taste it in there. Yeah, she's good. I had to mention that because
that's an experience to the real deal. But no, but I appreciate how you support the family,
your family person. So, Amesha, so what's in your future? What are you looking to do? You're a young
lady now and you graduated from high school. Kind of, you know, what are some of the things that
you're looking forward to in the season in your life? Right now in this season, I'm like really
wanting to focus on growing the podcast, you know, getting more people to come on the podcast,
you know, get it out there more. Because this, like my generation, like, because people that I
graduated with, I graduated in 2022. Oh, okay. And so some of the people I've graduated with are
having babies now. Yeah. And just like one of the things that I graduated with,
a few of them got arrested, having babies, it's like, like, yeah, wow. We need the same. Like
you're all 21 years old. Being thrust into motherhood, for all those who are out there to
have children, God bless you because I can't even imagine I'm a man number one. But even as a man,
having a child that young without a wife, and it's just incredible amount of work. And also,
from a financial and economic standpoint, you know, your birthing children, and don't take this
wrong anybody, but your birthing them usually into poverty. And because if you can't sustain and take
care of yourself, and now you have another mouth to feed, I mean, instantly, you're put into the
system. And if you're not in the system, then you have an incredible amount of support coming from
home. And if you're getting that support from mom or dad or from grandma or granddad or from one of
your siblings, really thank God and really be appreciative of that support. Because it's a
very difficult thing to raise a child when you're practically still dependent and not independent.
So shout out to the single mothers that are doing their best to make it happen and sacrifice them
because they kids so their kids can have when they going without and the GMAs and all the people
and the support and the aunties that's stepping up and the grand everybody shout out because you
know it does take a village but most importantly it takes the Lord. So I'm just happy to sit here
with a young lady that knew the Lord at an early age that her grandmother sold those seeds so grandma's
and GMAs don't get weary and well doing and take them kids to church. You can see from this young
woman that those seeds are our planet. It works. It works. It works. It works. It works. It works.
So we've been asking you what kind of questions you got with us. What you want to know?
Well how did you find your calling? Well your true north so to say and your music. Out of pain. Out of
pain. Out of life. You know I've gone through things and seen other people that I love go through
things and it's sort of like I don't know if anybody's ever watched Living Color but there was this
man on there he said wrote a song about it when he had ego and a lot of the conversations that I
would try to have they weren't readily received by those that I loved who were in those bondages.
So I thought if I put it to the music if I allowed the Holy Spirit to work through me
and to put it to music not only would the Lord be able to take the music to where it needs to go
and get possibly my family and loved ones to listen but to other individuals who are going
through the same thing. So a lot of my music or most of my music or all of my music first of all
my sister's going to always be about the Lord you know I go have to doubt or wonder if I'm singing
about pastor and my love for him and I do love pastor. So when I put it on the track it's about
Jesus. So you know and I just always try to make that message clear that he is our hope and in the
time of storm so I hope that it continues to encourage people and if you follow me make sure
you follow Angel and listen to the podcast every week. So yeah that's that's how I got
mine a lot of prayer a lot of fasting just being humbled and being in that space where you allow
yourself to be transparent that's the hardest thing about it the transparency that comes with
doing ministry sometimes you don't want everybody in your business in to know everything
but then the Holy Spirit will give the unction and the Holy Spirit will release you to share those
things that you would normally share and to have that confidence in God to know you know what it's
okay for me to share because what I went through is for someone else and that's what I pray the music
continues to do. Okay very um another question that I have for both of you actually is um do you see
a difference in the way that you know this my generation compared to your generation um serves
Lord like do you see any like differences or like anything compared to like when it was you first
came in the church as to now. Yeah well I guess I'll kick it off just just a couple of things
that just drop into my mind I think that any generation is a reflection of the culture of
the world at that time and so when I was coming up when you come to church you have to dress your
best so you always had to have your best clothes on when you come to church. I come from a generation
where respect is not just wanted or tolerated respect is mandatory and so yes ma'am no ma'am yes sir
no sir that's the kind of culture that I grew up in and I believe that those things transcended in
the church I think there was more respect in the church there was more order in the church
some things some ways it was good some ways maybe not so good maybe it was a little stuffy
and I think if I try to compare and contrast it to right now right now let's say you know just
wear whatever you want to wear come as you are it's kind of like that um young people have a voice
it wasn't just sit over in this corner and shut up or just you know do what you're told
or this is grown people's conversation I think now in this culture I think young people are more
the ones who are saved who are in the church they're more active and I think that their expression
is is not as narrow as it was back before I think before you had you had young people who
would work in ministry but they were always under the tutelage of an adult but now I see
now I see ministries where young people are doing like a singles ministry and things like that and
the pastors give them you know full reign hey do it the way you see fit and so when you bring in
the culture rap and you know I heard my wife introduced me they have uh gospel trap music
now I would never think that that would be a genre in the church gospel trap now the old me
would have said oh no there's no place for that but I'm more open minded now because I'm going to
listen to the music and really listen to those lyrics yeah to see if those lyrics are winding up
with the attributes and the characteristics of the lord okay so there was a song uh lady jay
helped me with it I struggle with it because it says something about um god holy ghost when you're
going to pull up or something like that remember that song a lot pulling up or something I was like
oh my goodness why because I have the type of reverence I have for god god is never my boy
he ain't my dude he ain't you know he he's not on that level with I don't have that type god is god
supreme you know what I mean and so I think that there are liberties with the young culture now
and how they have their relationship with god I'm not here to knock it I'm just saying my
perception is a little bit different because I grew up in a different era yeah and in that era
the culture was different how I converse with my parents and if I converse with my parents with a
high degree of respect how much more am I going to have respect for god so I think the difference
is the culture which is the music which is the language and it's how we dress yeah I agree with
that I still but I still believe that you know there's nothing new under the sun today's culture
today's young person is no different than last the the models two models ago you know grandma's
model and all that so yes the culture has changed in the shaping of it but the people people still
want to do what they want to do and people still fight those boundaries you know I think the major
difference between your culture and the cultures before is accountability we were from a do as
you're told do it do as I say not as I do culture and your culture is we're not with that you need
to be held accountable I saw what you did and you called the wrongs wrongs and you call the
rights rights and you cancel the people that you feel need to be canceled because they aren't doing
right by other people and I think that that level of accountability is something that's shocking
to older people because older people feel like you know now that I'm of age everyone should do
A, B, and C but your generation is like no we're not we're not doing that and as far as how they
worship and how they come to church I really feel like it's the last days and the pouring of God's
spirit is leading young people both in the church and outside the four walls of the church for example
True North gotta listen to the podcast so you know people like angel people like yourself
that are going out and that are not following this spiritualism but are truly following in our
being ambassadors for Jesus Christ I believe the Lord is going to elevate and so I'm just looking
forward to seeing all of the mighty things and the works that you're going to do for him and how
he's going to elevate you in this season because it's so needed and that's the difference you don't
need an okay or an approval from anyone to step forward in the things of God you got your own
personal relationship and I think that there is a place for that I praise God that you know you
talked to pastor about the things that you're doing in God but I also praise God that you're not afraid
to do them and that's the major difference and and how I feel your generation moves different
than past generations they're not given things to do by people they're hearing what they need to do
from God I like that I would tend to agree with most of that I think just add on is that what the
young people find out though when they hold you know individuals that they would hold in high
esteem when they hold them accountable that it is a wake up call for the adults but then I think
for the young people who do that they get to learn when they get older they'll understand
how their parents move and how those how elders move because then now they're walking into Mockensons
and because of the challenges that come with life and the problems and the issues then they find out
what life is really about it's hard to understand life when you only see one perspective living in
a particular hall and some things you may not like some things you may not agree with but when
you get that out there on your own and now you can blaze your own trail so to speak then you'll
find out what life is all about and what that becomes comes maturity right and with that also comes
an appreciation even though mom and dad they maybe get everything right you know you're appreciative
of the fact that they did the best thing could yeah so it's a great time for us I've grown so much
through the Lord through my children they've taught me so many things about me
and I and you know I couldn't do that with my parents no way because I had no voice in my house
there was one voice that was my dad's voice right I still hear it in the back of my head
I didn't have a voice whereas my kids we've allowed them a platform
to have a voice you know now you're supposed to come you're supposed to come with respect
but it's only because of God if God was an operator in my life oh I'd be like my more like my dad in
a lot of areas but thank God for evolution all right we're evolving yeah and my faith to faith
because like growing up in the church like I've been to quite a few different churches because
I've been to quite a few different houses got you um because after my grandmother passed we went
with my aunt and then my aunt got sick and then we moved in with her cousin and then my mom went to
prison and then we had to move again back with my aunt and then back with another cousin oh my
goodness you see the households just back and forth and then my mom's cousin who we were actually
staying with while she was in prison they were the ones that actually put us in the system
okay and so my mom actually didn't even know that we were in the system until she got a hope
yeah so she didn't even know we were in the foster care until she got out of
and so and she couldn't get us back to shoot you know she was just fresh out of prison for
God knows what reason right you know I don't I don't pry about it because you know that's between her
and God I don't need to know she served her time she's doing good yeah but I love the fact that
you don't appear at least to me to harbor any resentment or bitterness over being put in the
system right because the system actually benefited you got linked up with who you're with now so
wow look that's a custom that really show how God had his hands because something yeah he did it you
don't think about angel tree all the time and we have to talk that you know some people that come
through that foster system have gone through they are there messed up they went through some heinous
serious abuse you know we thank God that God has his hand on yeah like I don't have any hard
feelings or it's you know my mom the people that put us in the system like you know like I could
have been off a lot worse if I hadn't been put in the system me and Alicia right you know we could
have been dead somewhere you know it makes me think I like the story of Moses when they were
in a bad situation because they had paid the creed that they were going to murder all of those kids
so then she sent her baby up the river and then she he ended up in the palace you know and I think
that maybe them putting you in that system is what kept you out of harm's way it was like them
sending you being sending Moses up the river up the Nile and then you landed in a place where you
should be that you know the Lord could continue to keep you whole and protect you and your sister
so yeah it's that's a blessing that's a blessing and I like the way you're so transparent about it
and Candid I know that's gonna minister to a lot of a lot of young people you don't see you don't
see people who've come from those situations readily share and talk about the benefits of it you
know when it's done in the right way and for the right reasons yeah yeah and like all of us because
she because we're obviously not her first foster kids you know she's had other foster kids and I
don't think because I think Lisa was the only kid she ever actually fully adopted from what I remember
her telling me if I'm not mistaken but me Alicia and Lisa I believe are the only ones she ever
adopted okay um that's awesome that is awesome now we can say so that's why we love sister pair
real gospel love mr. pair
how you start it's how you finish and so um god has a plan for your life
yep you can't thwart it you can't get around it's amazing it's amazing and so you're gonna find that
you know just serving god and being with god he's going to allow you to navigate through this world
and you listen to him his plans are just amazing so yeah and it's funny because I actually had the
idea of starting a podcast um while I was still in high school and I didn't start it because I
ended up praying about it it's like it's not your season yet yeah and so I set it aside
and then I just recently came back to it right about it so I do it right that's good and I love
how sometimes god does you know he plants that seed and tells you okay this is what's going to
transpire but then doesn't happen immediately right then sometimes there's a season of cultivation
right where you got to go through different things and experience different things and then he says okay
but I told you back then now is the time yeah and then you know you carpet the end which means the
seeds the day you seize the moment and you walk forward in the face of god so that's awesome yeah
and like who's with Alicia she also grew up in the church but obviously she's not as much in church
as she was when we were growing up which is totally fine um all of my siblings got kids no I'm the
only one that don't got no kids oh quite frankly I don't want no kids right now they can keep them
I'll be the god until I watch okay it's free like I don't watch them for a couple hours but they
gotta go home right you know I don't know anybody that's young that has a season where they don't
kind of like you know you know I still love the Lord but right now especially when you have kids
and they're young it's hard getting all them people ready and trying to get them to come to church
but you know uh you just keep continuing to pray like I said shout out to the single moms
it is not easy I have two sisters who were uh single parents and I saw how how they struggled
but how they made it through in fact my one sister she'll be an empty nester soon so um I just thank
god for the journey and thank god for being able to be a witness of how his grace and mercy will
make up the gap when uh maybe the dads move amen amen yeah this me and all of my siblings are all
three years apart the biggest gap is Alicia and my brother they're five years apart oh they're fine
okay yeah but everyone else is three years apart and I find it hilarious because everyone every
single us one of them has two kids they all had their boy first and then they had their girl wow
so in the packing order you are Alicia's how many years older than you three three and then your
brother is how many years eight eight okay so he's the oldest okay gosh uh no my oldest sister
Tashay she's the oldest she's 32 okay she's 32 yeah good deal good deal so you gotta let me know when
this is going air so I could put it all over my Instagram her just Instagram we'd be like hey um
um I should have everything um edited and uploaded if not um buy it today or tomorrow it'll be
definitely be out by Monday okay all right good send us the links on the charoels I think I think
it's gonna be important for you to you know just be real with your audience and you know I don't
know a lot about social media I've learned a lot from my wife I don't know how to navigate through
a lot of the apps I don't so I don't want to learn I'm just gonna preach because I don't want to get
caught up it's too much it is a lot it's it's a lot I mean you know there's an investment of time
and I'm learning you know my wife's been teaching me some things and I listen to the thing she said
she might not think I do but I do but one of the things is that you have to have consistent content
yeah people look you lose the people online if you don't have consistent content there I mean some
people they will don't follow you to the ends of the earth but you have to have consistent
I mean they're looking for you yeah they don't see you if you're not readily available then they're
gone yeah it's hard to get them back once they're gone yeah even though they don't tell you they leave
okay so if they follow you they're still following you but they're not following you yeah so
sometimes that can create a gap where you think you have all these followers you know on TikTok I
have 5,000 followers whoo whoo but they don't know the Bible is still on Wednesday the stream's been
canceled now because I don't have anybody looking at it so I see others that are doing well with
their ministry on tiktok but they're on it all the time you can worry about tiktok because they
have canceled the tiktok when is that leaving in a couple months yeah yeah hold on hold on hold on
you don't know breaking news you're not on social media that's why you don't know Angel what happened
to tiktok they're they're banning it they did wait wait hold on hold on it's completely gone now
wait wait hold on so when I was looking at it the house representatives voted to ban it but then
the Senate had it so the Senate voted it'll be gone in a few months it's over wait wait wait
it's over they're not gonna purchase it no no why would they sell it we only make up like
so wait wait wait hold on y'all this is good this is wrong breaking for me so wait a minute wait
wait so you're telling me right now that the current ownership of tiktok is not willing to sell
why would they want to do that well they would want to do that lady jay because when they look at
the current viewership and how much money they're making off that millions of people in the US
nope you stand to lose that the US doesn't even make up a tenth of what they are worldwide so why
would they say hey we don't make up a 10% if you don't sell it we're not gonna get out less than 10%
so we lose our voice in tiktok so who's so who's gonna pick up those those um what do you call
now providers really call the the people who make content the content makers what do you call them
I don't know but I changed they have to switch platforms now so what platform is going to be
been officially but it's gonna be the algorithms it's gonna be people want to tiktok from
them I know this they went to tiktok from IG so are they gonna go back so who's the new what's
the new platform that people are going to write because right now it's in the air from tiktok
or not tiktok instagram and youtube those are the only two places that they can go so wait a minute
how can they that tweet hold on let me ask a question for you so how can they how are they
going to success with Bennett the app won't be available it won't be available anymore but wait a
minute but if you have a virtual private network of vpm and say I set my vpm to Europe and Europe
has tiktok then I could get Europe was so most like we have to talk I changed my country to Europe
hey when they first when they first was going to bed because I was like I gotta see tiktok
but they probably don't know because of my bpm whatever but I was just like
so this is no appellate court that's going to look at appealing okay what did the people when did
this happen this happened fairly recently yeah it happened very recently where they were talking
about banding it was there any type of protest or anything not that I know of because honestly
people know people were they had their signs of this stuff yeah because they've been talking about
banning tiktok for like three years now but see that's what's so interesting about it because they
weren't going to ban tiktok in like 2022 when I graduated yeah they were they were talking about
how like unfortunately our congressional workers they're the least productive they were saying of
like so many different congresses they've had throughout the years so one of the things that
they were saying is um you know all these protests about guns you guys going to school and not
worrying about getting shot all these protests about black lives matters about health care
nothing was done but they can come together and make an unbiased and reach uh and reach across the
aisle to band the one thing that most americans have loved and learned to enjoy especially during
covid yeah tiktok and it's so sad you know we can't do anything about hot wages but we can
come together reach across the aisle for tiktok yeah because they were saying that we're going to
ban tiktok like a while ago and then it just never happened and they're like yeah we're just going
to ban it now I'm for good maybe because they can get associated with us said no tiktok will not
suddenly disappear from your phone nor will you go to jail if you continue using it after it's banned
okay how are we going to continue to use it though because once you delete the app okay I don't think
you can reinstall it every tablet I have oh they have a little bit of time okay they got nine months
to sell the company yeah they're not they're not gonna sell it they're not gonna sell it
don't go through for them to say that's like being a bully wow we don't like the algorithms that we
can't control so it'll be at least a year before the ban goes into effect so we don't like the
algorithms that we can't control the information yeah nor can we make money out of it you got to
sell it or we're gonna be in it yeah the elder is so mad because I can't control people right
and I'm telling you it was a lot of people getting educated on that like about black history for me it
was the native american history yeah like you know seeing the things that happened and looking at their
congress their their meetings and how they do business and it was and seeing what the reservation
looks like one other countries seeing what's really happening like with these wars and you know
on snapchat if you go to snapchat if you look at the map and you click on the in the map you can
see what's actually happening in those places like so yeah it's amazing um because it's actually
because it's inside because it's one actor he's um he's indian he got his brain cut off somebody
coming to the hate crime against him cut his brain off and the like they beat him up drug him in the
woods and cut his brain off and it was good people getting canceled I mean you go out here acting crazy
if you want to and then they post your video now you can't work you go off your job that's not funny
I gotta read this it's not funny but it's so it's amusing so india banned tiktok back in 2020
so how did the people react it said tiktok users and content creators needed a place to go and the
band provided a multi-billion dollar opportunity to snatch up a big market within months google
rolled out youtube shorts I remember when those came out and instagram pushed out its reals feature
both mimic the short form video creation at tiktok edits yeah they designed no it doesn't feel as organic
just tiktok you know
yeah interesting
yeah like it's everything is going downhill like it's just it's crazy
it's the way it stays
what a perfect what a perfect time for your podcast because everything's going downhill
we look at downhill as being soft but we look in the go true north hey so what's your true
what is your true so your podcast is timely because true north means we're going in the
direction that god would have us to go even though everything looks to be going to pop yeah so that's
a good thing so let it keep going south because true north is still going to seek the lord why
because the bible says that we look to the hills from much coming by hell knowing all our help comes
from the lord that's a good thing but i want to thank you for having me today i appreciate
it this is good i appreciate the platform to all the young people hey young people be sure to follow
me artificially lady remember i was talking lady j you want to hear gospel music
mm-hmm of a view gospel music tune into real gospel so you can show up at the church and hear the real
gospel but if you want the music to go with it go to officially lady j right no but this this was
amazing thank you let this be just something that fuels you to continue to go higher yes
be encourage just be encouraged just do what god has called you to do and your your name is be fitting
in the bible times people were named certain names not because of how the name was spelled but what
the name meant and so angel means a messenger for god so that's what you do uses fine things
to be who god called you to be which is a messenger for god and hopefully it will get to me some of
your viewers at one of our services hopefully you're a real gospel on facebook or instagram or
tiktok to list cancel i think tiktok is like pastor tl tl wilson on tiktok it's no real
gospel on tiktok just the facebook real gospel one yeah we got a year ago yeah we got a little bit of time all right thank you well thank you guys for being part of the podcast on the very first episode
i appreciate it yeah till next time love you guys