Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good
night, wherever you are in the world. This is
Brunch Boxing. I'm your host, Matt. And today
is a very special day in Brunch Boxing. But before
we get to why it's so special, I wanted to bring
in a special guest, the host of the hottest podcast
in all of combat sports. Everyone has an opinion.
What's going on, fellas? Today is July 25th,
2026. This is Everyone Has an Opinion slash Runch
Boxing. We are here for the greatest boxers of
all time draft. If you haven't been familiar
with the draft concept, we've been doing this
every month. We've done the greatest baseball
players of all time, greatest basketball players
of all time, greatest rappers of all time. You
name it, we rank it. Today is like a Super Bowl
for us. We got Spence fighting. We got a lot
of boxing aficionados in the building. We're
going to break down the greatest ever. Can't
wait to get into this. And for those who want
a preview of the Errol Spence fight, please go
to Spotify, search for Everyone Has an Opinion,
because Juan did an excellent breakdown of the
entire Errol Spence card, including the Errol
Spence fight. Unfortunately, it was recorded
before Stephen Fulton decided to show up as a
welterweight. So there are changes to the card.
Brunch Boxing will do their own little preview
for Errol Spence versus Tim Zoo tonight, immediately
before the event begins. But today is about boxing
history from the pioneers of yesteryear, Tom
Molyneux, the first black boxer of all time,
John L. Sullivan, the first heavyweight champion
in the history of boxing. You got guys like Joe
Lewis, Muhammad Ali, Rocky Marciano, Sugar Ray
Robertson, Floyd Mayweather. All of these guys
have made an indelible mark in the history of
the sport of boxing. But who are the greatest
boxers of all time? We are here to solve that
equation today. One. Yes, sir. Tell the people
how the draft works. Okay, so my concept of the
draft is you select the greatest available. I
don't want to hear about, oh, I'll go out value
in this round. No, you take the best possible
fighter on the board. This is the greatest of
all time. So we're trying to compile a list,
basically. So when people look at this, they
can say, wow, who are the top 100 greatest fighters
of all time? Let's look at brunch boxing and
everyone has an opinions list. And we're going
to have what I consider. one of the best lists
you'll ever see because I think we have people
from all over the country. We have a bunch of
different age groups, a bunch of different opinions,
and we're here to argue about it, and we're here
to tell you guys who the greatest are. This is
a snake -style draft. We should have 11 competitors
here, so we should have the top 110 boxers of
all time. Yeah, yeah, we should. We should. Now,
who are going to be some of our drafters today?
Who's here already is the better question. Well,
we got the brunch boxing guys, of course, Ezra,
Matthew Brown. We got brunch boxing historian
J -Ro. We got box rec Gray himself. We got Ty,
Keep It 100 Boxing, another great boxing mind.
Who else is in the building? VV, who considers
himself a historian. I guess we're going to find
out today. We got Lord of the Flies. We're still
waiting to see him. Of course, he's going to
draft probably the smallest guys you've ever
heard of. Juan, you can't see that he's joined
because he's in the stream yard, but Gritty is
here. Okay, we got Gritty, the guy that does
the weekly stalk of fighters and what's going
on in the sport of boxing. Another guy whose
opinion I trust with all the other guys in this
chat. I wouldn't invite people that I didn't
respect. We got a who's who here, in my opinion.
One thing I want to add for those listening on
the space, if you look at the big board and the
pinned comment up top, there is a draft board
that you can watch along with, so you don't have
to watch blindly. You can follow along as you're
listening. I will say, Juan might respect everyone
here, but I don't. I just want to point that
out. I do not either, Matt. Don't worry about
it. Yeah, so right now we're still waiting on
Lefty, Lord, and KB. TY's here, but he's showing
as a listener for me. I've invited him to speak.
It's amazing. You know, one time here, he just
popped up on the street yard. Now that he's popping
up, he's deprived. So we fell. This sheet for
the draft looks very professional. I've got to
say it makes all of the other drafts look very,
very shameful in comparison. Well, this is a
collaboration. We had to do a big shout out to
Huey, the producer of the year. You said it's
the Super Bowl. This is the Super Bowl, apparently.
What are you talking about, man? Your tribal
chief is here. Don't worry about it, man. Put
your one up, man. Your tribal chief here, man.
I know it can't go on without me. Come on, man.
I was here. I acknowledge you, but will I acknowledge
your list? That's the question. You will acknowledge
my list. Is Ezra's new gimmick to be in the car
each episode? Yeah. Ezra hasn't told us this,
but he has gotten kicked out of his home. He
is living in his car. Well, I will say this.
As I was once called a passenger of the show,
now I'm in the driver's seat. I mean, that's
just the case here. I'm ready for this draft.
Let me tell you something. There's a lot of guys
in here that, you know, they've been reading
press clippings. They've been doing all this
stuff and they think, you know, oh, this guy,
he doesn't know anything about the history of
boxing. You know what? They're a little bit right.
They're a little bit right. But I will say this.
I've never had a bad draft. It's not going to
start today. I've never had a bad draft, but
it's not going to start today. And I can't wait
because all these guys say, oh, this guy's in
it. I respect his opinion. I can't wait to see
them turn on each other today. I can't wait to
them to say, you drafted this guy. You value
this. I can't wait for it. Because what people
don't realize is they don't really get into these
discussions on what they truly value in boxing
and what they really think guys are great. I
can't wait for this discussion. I think this
draft is going to be all over the place. I think
it's going to be fantastic. You know what's funny
to me? There's the guy who is the unofficial
historian of French boxing. It's official. Unofficial.
He told me that there are 10 guys better than
the guy that I have put that draft on. 10 guys?
Yeah, well, I mean... You know, I'm just going
to say this. Some fighters are as great as the
guys that could write about them. So the guys
that wrote about them had great vocabularies.
They were a master with the pen, you know what
I mean? And the guys read about them, and they
said, this guy must have been fantastic. That's
what they're saying. So we're going to see. Like
I said, it's going to get a little heated. It's
going to get a little heated in here. I really
think so. Now, boxing spans many eras. All time
is a long time. In your opinion, Ezra, what is
the greatest era of boxing in the history? Ooh,
that's a good question. I would say... I'm going
to say the 80s. Ooh, okay. Okay. I would say
the 80s. Interesting. Interesting. I do want
to introduce one of our other drafters at this
point. The man who brought you Chicken Talk.
Lefty, how are you doing today? I'm doing good.
I can't stay that long, but Matt just grabbed
Tiger Flowers. We didn't get to see that long.
We didn't get to see that long. I don't know
where you came out of left field with this Tiger
Flowers shit, but all of a sudden, he just became
the greatest boxer according to you. Hey, you
know what's funny? Tiger Flowers, I write about
him every time I write about boxing history.
How could you not love the Georgia defense? Lefty,
you got to stick around and draft your boy, Dick
Tiger. Why can y 'all do this on a Sunday? It
ain't like y 'all go to church or nothing. Why
can y 'all do this on a Sunday? Oh, I thought
you said, how can we not do this on a Sunday?
I said it's Saturday. But yeah, I don't get it.
How long can you stay lefty? How many picks would
we get out of you if you did stay? Text me when
it's my time. How would you know? This guy. I'm
serious. I'll do it that way. If you DM me when
it's time to do my pick, I'll come and do my
pick. I know I'm already... I mean, shit, y 'all
already rigged the draft. We're all y 'all at
the top. Man, what's up, man? Sibby determined
the draft order. The only person we're waiting
on here now is KB. We're waiting on KB and we're
waiting on Lorde. Oh, we do have our alternate
in the building, though. TJ is here. The 70s
is the best I've ever unboxed in my life. Not
the 80s. 70s. What up, though? Yeah, I do agree.
It's the era. That's the decade. Gritty made
a great point that Matt always seems to get the
first overall pick or like a top pick. That's
actually not true. Very suspicious. He's in every
single draft, so you're going to see him get
every different pick. Yo, fuck out of here, y
'all. Sippy ain't doing shit. Get your ass up
here and draft, Sippy. You ain't doing shit.
You ain't training no kids today, nigga. He's
got a training. He ain't training no good. Man,
look here's that Dorney Park. Get your ass up
here and draft Sid, but you ain't doing shit.
You got some air pods, nigga. I'm trying. LJ,
too. What the fuck LJ doing? Get your ass up
here and draft LJ. You ain't doing shit. Yo,
what the fuck's happening? Ty's just inviting
the entire crowd. No, but we ain't. People driving.
Hey, Vinny. Oh, Vinny. You don't have eight people
draft? Everybody going to have a great team.
I mean, people 18. That's the greatest of all
time. That's the greatest of all time. That's
the greatest of all time. That's the greatest
of all time. That's the greatest of all time.
That's the greatest of all time, nigga. All right.
So if Lord or KB do not show up, we got TJ to
take their place. I thought TJ was supposed to
be in it to begin with. Yeah, for real. I had
to go to work. TJ missed the video game draft,
so Juan banned him. Yeah, we had to get him off
the ban list. But this was his way of showing
he's reliable for future drafts. It was by showing
up. He made weight. He was an alternate. He's
not like Stephen Follin, who was more brunch
than boxing. Damn, we got T .Y. here. You gonna
talk to him like that? That nigga Scooter do
need... Hey, man, Boobin, I'm rival, man. You
got his ass whooped. We do have a couple other
listeners that could potentially be alternates
if they wanted to. I see Bobby down there. I
see Blunts and Boxing down there. I don't know
what Trill's doing. Trill's usually busy. Yeah,
Trill said he had some stuff today. We got the
all -time instigator, Sibby. Wait, how many people
we have right now that are in the draft? Ten.
No, nine. We got nine right now. Are you counting
lefty? I'm counting lefty. You're counting lefty.
The guy that needs to be DM'd before every pick.
You can't count lefty. I don't think that's going
to work. He's not going to pay attention to the
draft. He's going to come in and have to figure
out who everyone got drafted between his big
bros. We have nine not including lefty and ten
if we include lefty. He's like, yo, went through
the whole roster. I'm good now. I'm at the house
right now, so I'm not in the tow truck this time.
Three people in the listeners that could be alternates
for this draft. Wait, hold on. I had a ride with
the tow truck man, so the tow truck guy looking
at me like, what the fuck is he talking about?
Everyone that's picking before you is actually
here. Okay, good, because I'm not having somebody
fucking fill in and get a paper for me. That's
not happening. Well, actually, it's funny. The
way that this draft order was made, everyone
through the first eight picks are here. It's
the last three that are questionable. They're
wondering why they got those picks. They're in
here watching Michael Spinks. That's how the
order went. I need like 20 minutes then, because
I'm just leaving the barbershop. 20 minutes.
Just give him the last pick. If you gave him
KB's pick, that would actually probably work
out perfectly. We got a European in here. What
pick is it then? It'd be pick 11. You'd be back
to back. You'd have 11 and 12. My favorite European.
We're going to put Bobby in this spot. Is that
10? That's 10. If we remove Lefty with TJ and
take Lorde out of the draft, that's 10. Yeah,
that's fine. You don't remove me. You don't remove
Lefty. Well, Lorde can't make it. He said something
about word. Listen, nigga, Lorde. I'll tell you
this. You working on the case? 100 is a nice
round number for me. It is. 100 is a nice round
number. Lord is not working. He just knows that
he can't do this. Yeah, he just knows he can't
do this. That nigga Lord behind the trash can.
A lot of people get cold feet when their dollar
just put more display. Yeah, but in Lord's case,
he has no legs, so. Hey, but if Lord's not here,
who's going to draft Jezreel Corrales? When a
guy says Luis Neri is a better father than Canelo,
he shouldn't be on. My nigga Lord, why he not
here? You got me. I'll argue in how Triple G
and Miguel Cotto's damn near the same size. TJ,
it's not dissing when you just say his exact
take. That's not dissing. We're just saying his
exact take. Maybe he has a firmware update that's
going through right now. You know how those like
to go through overnight? That nigga is on a fucking...
Contract with a licensed killer, niggas. Hey,
we on a recorded space. It's not like you started
saying real stuff, but come on. Yeah, don't be
on that Richardson Pigeons. That is TJ's favorite
fighter. I'm being mysterious now. Thank you,
Assassin. It's your business. I'm ready when
you guys are. I think we have everyone here.
Who's everyone? Now, are you ready? I'm ready.
We're about to set this off. Who is the greatest
fighter of all time? Now, for those who don't
know the draft order, before we get into it,
why don't you give them the draft order real
quick? Number one, we got Matt. Number two is
J -Ro. Drafting number three is Ezra. Number
four is Box Red Gray. Drafting number five is
Gritty. Number six is myself. Number seven. TY,
number 8, DV. Number 9 is TJ. And number 10 is
Bobby. And he'll have back -to -back sticks because
this is a snake draft, so it'll go opposite order
in the second round. All right. Well, we'll get
to all of that. But I have the distinct honor
of drafting first, like Juan said. And I got
to be honest. When you draft number one in the
draft, this is what everybody looks at when they
see a list. Who's number one on the list? Because
that sets the tone for the rest of any type of
list, any type of draft. And I take great responsibility
for that. So, with the first pick of the 2026
greatest boxers of all time draft. I, of course,
select the guy who I believe is the greatest
heavyweight of all time. Because this was a guy
who, at the peak of his power, was untouchable.
Okay? And then he went away for three years and
came back in a new era of heavyweight. And still
was able to become lineal heavyweight champion.
Three -time lineal heavyweight champion. Six
-time fighter of the year. The Louisville Lip
himself. The great Muhammad Ali is my number
one pick. I love it. I don't think anyone can
argue with that. When you think Matt's on the
train, right, and he's talking into his headphones,
do you think people just think he's losing his
mind when he starts talking about boxing out
of nowhere? Because you know he's not doing it
quietly. I wonder that sometimes. Right now,
I am on 125th Street standing outside like a
black kid, just giving my speech about how great
Muhammad Ali is right now. There are people looking
at me, but I don't care. Because I am espousing
the greatness of Muhammad Ali. That's why the
tow truck guy was looking at me the last time.
Like, this guy is weird. What the fuck is he
talking about? I'm like, oh, I'm in a draft.
He's like, a draft? Tell him, sit back and listen.
I've been walking through the grocery store screaming.
I'm going to be honest with you. I picked Muhammad
Ali for a reason. I feel like... Historically,
a lot of these great for all time lists have
been wrong. And a lot of them bypass Ali at number
one because they want to seem smart. They want
to give you a smaller fighter to put up your
new terror or somebody like that. But here's
the thing. If you put Muhammad Ali against one
former guy. Let's be honest, the best fighter
in the world is always the heavyweight. Heavyweight
beats everybody. Physically, too big, too strong.
Will you keep this logic? We'll find out. Interesting.
I mean, he will have to. At one point, you got
to pick Vladimir Pesko over Floyd Mayweather.
You know what? If Floyd Mayweather fought Vladimir
Pesko, Vladimir Pesko knocked him out. I don't
know what to tell you. I'm not sure about that.
I'm not sure about that, by the way. You got
to land, right, Matt? You got to land. Oh, man.
J -Ro, what is your logic going to be for the
first pick of your draft, the number two overall
pick? I'm picking the greatest pound for pound
fighter of all time. It can be a heavyweight,
it can be a strawweight. To me, greatest pound
for pound fighter of all time. I'm going to go
with one, Walker Smith Jr. Many of you know him
as Sugar Ray Robinson. Record of 174 wins, 19
losses, 6 draws, 2 no contests, 109 knockouts.
He has more knockouts than a lot of fighters
have wins. At one point, he was 129 wins, 1 loss,
and two draws. He was 40 -0, lost his first fight
when he weighed a little bit less than the one
-two weight limit. And he lost to Jake LaMotta,
who weighed a little bit more than the middleweight
limit. Troy Robinson could not get a world title
shot, could not fight a world champion. So he
fought the lightweight champion at a catchweight
of 136. Sammy Anga whooped his ass. He has Hall
of Fame wins over Henry Armstrong that should
be drafting the first round in this draft. This
is the greatest pound for pound. Damn near unbeatable
in its prime. At welterweight, never lost versus
another welterweight. Just unbeatable at welterweight.
Greatest fighter of all time, Sugar Ray Robinson.
Great pick. Great pick. Ezra, who you got up
at number three? All right. At number three,
I'm going to take Henry Jackson, or as you might
know him as Henry Armstrong. At the point when
there was eight weight divisions of boxing, he
owned three of the titles. And some say he should
own number four. They say he was raw for number
four at middleweight. This is a man that was
a... featherweight champion, welterweight champion,
lightweight champion, and almost should have
been middleweight champion. This is one of the
best fighters, and sometimes I think that when
I think of greatness, I think of a fighter that
his skill and ability, it makes weights not even
matter. That's what Henry Armstrong was. That's
my pick. I feel very confident in that pick.
I think all the guys picked before me were great
picks too, but I think Henry Armstrong is a guy
that we talk about pound for pound. I think he's
almost the definition of pound for pound. Now,
one thing I do want to point out, Simultaneously.
Simultaneously. At the same damn time. At the
same time. Excellent. Excellent. Fantastic pick.
Fantastic pick. Now leading up to the draft,
this is where a lot of us thought the draft might
begin. Boxer at gray. Who are you taking at number
four? I'm going to take Archie Moore, light heavyweight
champion for 10 years and a decade where guys
fought all the time. He had 186 career wins,
132 knockouts. He avenged, I believe, 11 of his
23 losses. So, I mean, obviously he did lose
quite a bit, but he fought all the time. He had
four wins over Harold Johnson. Three over Joey
Maxim, defeated Bobbo Olsen. So some other Hall
of Fame level talent as well. So yeah, just a
great puncher. And for me, somebody that was
so good for so long in an era where you're fighting
so often, it's hard to hold a title for that
long. And he did it for 10 years. So I think
that's very impressive. So that's why I'm picking
Archie Moore. J -Ro and Vivi, this is a conversation
that you guys had. Is this a pick surprise to
either of you? No, I think Archie Morris is a
great pick. I had him in a top first round pick.
I wasn't sure who was going to get him, but I
did have him rated in the first round. He was
number six on my draft board. He was ninth on
mine. Yeah. Grit, who you got? Number five overall.
So I'm going with one of the most important,
not only just boxers, I think, in my opinion,
one of the most important American sports figures
in the history of this country. I'm going to
go with that boy, the Brown Bomber, man. I'm
going Joe Lewis, number four. Longest reigning
heavyweight champion in history. Gritty, you
still there? Yeah, his mic might have cut out.
I'm not sure. He's still here. That was such
a great pick. Gritty got knocked out. Joe Lewis
is a great pick. Like he was saying, longest
-running heavyweight champion of all time. I
believe, what was it? 19 consecutive defenses,
something like that? It was a 20. It was a 20?
Yeah, so... Can't go wrong with the Joe Louis
pick there. Grit, are you still here? He's on
mute now, but I don't know if you had any more
to say about Joe Louis. Yeah, no, you can go
ahead. I got this possum that live in this tree
in the backyard, man. It's weird. And I find
it just seen as a multitasking at its finest.
In your opinion, who is the sixth greatest fighter?
Joe Louis in front of Adolf Hitler. And the entire
world beat Max Schmelling. Beat the hell out
of Max Schmelling to be heavyweight champion.
Just an amazing fighter, an amazing person. Unfortunately,
you can call that his country. After fighting
for his country, we're proud. He couldn't get
the riches that he deserved. People know became
friends. Uh, so, so people, uh, passed away.
Just, just to fall around. Yeah. Rest in peace.
Thank you for that, Matt. Yeah. Great, great
addition there on, on some of the history there
with Joe Lewis and, you know, what he did in
his career. And also after, uh, one moving on
with the draft here, like I said, Who are you
naming as the sixth greatest boxer of all time?
With the sixth pick overall, I'm taking a guy
that wasn't only avoided because of his skin
color, but it's because he was a pretty damn
good fighter as well. They weren't avoiding him
for no reason. I'm talking about the first black
heavyweight champion of all time, Jack Johnson,
a guy that had victories over people like Joe
Jeanette, Sam Lankford, Tommy Burns. Bob Fitzsimmons,
names like Stanley Ketchell. He was whooping
their ass. And this guy wasn't just whooping
their ass. He was doing like Adrian Broner to
Pauline Malignaggi. I took your belt and I took
your girl because this guy was supposedly running
around fucking everybody's white wives. So this
guy was a complete legend. One of the earliest
times you'd see like great defensive fighters
was because of the stuff that Jack Johnson was
doing. So that's my sixth pick overall. Great
pick. Matt, do you have anything to add on the
pick of Jack Johnson? For those who are, I don't
want to say fans, but of P. Diddy. And P. Diddy
was convicted of violating the Mann Act, which
is bringing people across state lines for purposes
that are unscrupulous. That law was put into
effect because of Jack Johnson traveling across
state lines, as Juan so eloquently put it, to
have sex with the wives of white men. Yes, and
obviously Jack Johnson's most famous fight, the
fight of the century against James J. Jeffries,
Jim Jeffries in 1910, the original Great White
Hope. When you hear that expression... He's the
only person ever to beat him, by the way. Yeah,
yeah. Whooped his ass, Jack Johnson. Yeah, great
pick there. Wasn't sure where he was going when
he brought up PDA at first. Let's see what wild
ride we're about to go on right now. I just figured
I'd sit back and kind of see what he had to say.
But T .Y., host of the RNS podcast, the guy that
brings you the Sunday morning sermon every week,
who are you picking at number seven? Can y 'all
hear me? Yes. So listen, at number seven, right?
I'm going with a guy that he just won the best
of all time, man. When you look at his resume,
he beat them all. He beat them all, multi -division
champion. You know one thing he did have? He
had the clutch gene. I'm talking about Sugar
Ray Leonard, man. He beat Tommy. He beat Marvin.
He beat Duran. He beat Benitez. And when you
think he's going to lose, he always wins. I'm
going to pick nobody against Ray Leonard. Ray
was different. He didn't have 100 fights, but
he made all his fights count, and he beat them
all. I don't recommend that Terry Norris shoot.
That shit don't count. That's all I got to say.
Ray Leonard, man. No introduction, man. What
I will add in an interesting juxtaposition to
the return of former welterweight champion Errol
Spence Jr. tonight after three years. Ray Leonard
returned after three years off, and he beat marvelous
Marvin Hagler in an all -time great fight. He
won titles in five different weight classes,
welterweight, junior middleweight, middleweight,
super middleweight, and light heavyweight. Unbelievable,
charismatic. One of the great fighters to ever
lace a pair of gloves, Mr. Sugar Ray Leonard.
All right, Vivi, you're up with the eighth pick
in the greatest boxes of all time draft. Who
are you taking? This is easy for me because I'm
picking a top three fighter of all time, in my
opinion, with no doubt, arguably the greatest
fighter of all time. A guy that started out as
a small 5 '7 featherweight and as a teenager
went and beat maybe the greatest leg weight of
all time, Joe Gans. And then moved up again as
a teenager and arguably through claims beat Barbados
Joe Walcott. And then again, all before his 20th
birthday, went up and this guy got drafted before
Sam Blankford. I don't know how. Despite a 40
-pound weight disadvantage. Ran Jack Johnson
so close that Jack Johnson said, I'm never fucking
fighting that guy again. But I mean, condolences,
he's not the only guy. A lot of people avoided
Sam Langford. That's why he had to go all the
way up to heavyweight, had to fight all over
the world. Still beat guys like Harry Wills,
who was also avoided. Sam McVay, great, great
fighters. He is, in my opinion, easily top three.
I can't believe he's taller than me. Sam Langford,
easily. Oh, man. What a great pick, VB. Like
you said, he beat Joe Ganz. I don't know if you
mentioned that he also beat Stanley Ketchel.
He is one of the all -time great fighters and
a pioneer in the sport of boxing. Direct descendant
of slavery and with an estimated 200 fights.
In 1990, he was part of the inaugural class of
the International Boxing Hall of Fame. Just an
absolute legend. Yeah, you know what's so impressive
about Sam Langford is despite being a 5 '7 heavyweight
that was blind, he was still the most avoided
fighter in the world. That tells you how good
he was. He even left him tiger flowers. Hey,
relax. That was a good one, Juan. TJ, our first
alternate in the draft. You maybe aren't as prepared
as some of the rest of the people picked for
you, but who are you taking at number nine overall?
Well, yo, at number nine overall, I'm picking
Julio Cesar Chavez. Record of 107 wins, 85 KOs,
multiple -time world champion, beat the likes
of Rocky Lockbridge and the other legends. I
ain't have the most time, but from off my head,
I was going to pick Julio Cesar Chavez if it
was 9 -10. It's a great pick, TJ. Yeah, no issues
with that pick here. Bobby. Like 9 -0. I got
to say one thing, though. TJ is a real wild card
now because I got to tell you, this is kind of
messing up my rounds now. It's got to throw me
off a little bit on the big foot. Let's keep
it going. You're a real wild card right now,
TJ. You can still pick Junior, Ezra. You can
still pick Junior. Oh, man. This is funny. All
right. Let's keep going. Oh, man. All right,
Bobby, to close out the first round and begin
the second, who are you taking first with your
10th pick? I'm keeping life simple. We going
Floyd Mayweather. Like, come on, man. It's Floyd
Mayweather, man. Like, you got these nerds now,
they'll tell you about these old motherfuckers,
but, man, it's Floyd. And every time they tried
to put over a guy, remember, he tried to put
guys over. Remember, it was a guy, it's a Mexican
that's boxing now. They tried to put him over,
this 23 -year -old guy. Now, history will tell
you, oh, man, he was not ready, he was not ready,
but Floyd had that motherfucking 12 -0. It was
a little judge that had a majority decision.
I mean, majority draw, but man, you can talk
about that. But yeah, Floyd number 10. Don't
let the nerds get to you, Bobby. That's cold,
Bobby. Don't let the nerds get to you. I had
a feeling that was going to be the pick. You
was right. They changed the draft. Not going
the way I thought. Oh, and this is right here.
The first pick of the second round. And I know
people are going to say this is a reach, but...
I watched this guy's whole career. I'm going
with Lennox Lewis. He beat everybody. He beat
everybody in his era. And the guy that he lost
to, he went back and stopped those motherfuckers.
It's Lennox Lewis. The draft has been turned
on its head. I like that Lennox pick. That's
a good pick. I like Lennox. I love Lennox. That's
a man's draftsman turn on his head, though. I
got to tell you, not the way I expected. I was
expecting more than boxing nerds in here. I got
to tell you, it's throwing me off a little bit.
All right. Let's keep it rolling. TJ, you're
back. Yeah, TJ, you ready for your, you got your
second pick ready? The number 12 overall pick.
You going to match up senior with junior? Bronny
LeBron situation? Do we have TJ? TJ's rattled.
Yeah. It's your pick again with a snake draft.
What number pick? This is the number 12 overall
pick. With the number 12 overall pick, I chose
Bernard Hopkins. Let's fucking go. Let's fucking
go, TJ. Take all the nigga picks. I did my homework.
I know how great he was. I hate you niggas. You
took cigarettes. Oh, wow. I don't mind Hopkins
as a second round pick. Can I tell you something?
Can I tell you something? This draft just got
fun. I will say there's a lot. This back half
of the first round, beginning of the second round,
way more modern fighters taken than I thought
there would be. Can I tell you something right
now? J -Roll, don't even worry about your list.
It's safe. Don't worry about your list, brother.
It is safe. Don't have to cross up the gob. Put
your pen down. You won't be crossing no names
off for a while. Let's keep it rolling, fellas.
Big Tiger at 12. T .Y., would you like to add
anything about the guy from your city, Bernard
Hopkins? Nah, man. I'm disheveled right now.
I want to add something. I'll add something about
Hopkins. I'll add something about Hopkins. And
it has nothing to do with boxing. Bernard Hopkins
was such a bad man that he would rob from the
guys that he knew would call the police. He would
rob from the criminals because he knew that those
guys are definitely not going to call the cops.
That's what Bernard Hopkins' mentality was. Bernard
Hopkins' mentality was, I'm going to go rob from
the worst guys possible because they definitely
ain't calling the cops. This guy is one of the
best mindsets to ever enter boxing. That's what
Bernard Hopkins said. And he started a state
property too. Bernard Hopkins had two careers,
caught a second win when he was 50 years old.
That's alien. That's not normal. That shit is
crazy. Alien. Alien. All right, Vivi. Number
13 overall pick with a third pick in the second
round. Who are you taking? Oh, I love this place
in the draft. I love it because I don't know
who the fuck is drafting after me, but I mean,
this is a fucking cakewalk, bro. I'm taking Ezra
Charles. Like what the fuck? Maybe the greatest
light heavyweight ever goes to war. These people
wear a war hat as a fucking gimmick. This guy
actually did it. Came back, became the heavyweight
champion of the world. I saw Archie Moore drafted.
Yo, come on. Ezra Charles beat that guy multiple
times. Come on. Let's go. Ezra Charles, easy.
Does anyone have anything to add on Ezra Charles?
I want to try to give TY a few more seconds so
he can gather himself to make his pick. Hold
on, hold on. Ezra Charles, nicknamed the Cincinnati
Cobra, one of the all -time great light heavyweights,
defeated Jersey Joe Walcott. No, no, no. Yeah,
he defeated their jersey, Joe Walcott. He did
lose to Joe Lewis and Rocky Marciano, but he
gave a great account of himself. To me, he is
one of the all -time greats. I'm shocked he did
not get taken in the first round. But, you know,
hey, listen, that's what the draft is here for.
Sometimes it don't go the way you think it's
going to go. All right, T .Y., you said you're
ready. Who are you taking with the fourth pick
in the second round, number 14 overall? I'm going
to keep it modern, too. I'm going with Roberto
Duran. One of the best fighters ever. One of
the best fighters I've ever worked with. Great
value. Great pick. Great pick here. I mean, well,
he got, like, lightweight champion. We had 12
defenses. He beat Ray. He's a great fighter,
man. I mean, I know Matt can tell you more in
detail, but I'm going with Durant here for my
pick. And I actually consider Durant my first
pick. So again, right here is great value to
me. I don't know about y 'all boys. For me to
get the ring right here is a great value for
me. All right, Juan. You're back up with your
second round pick. Listen, I'm keeping it simple.
I'm going with another heavyweight. A guy that
did it in multiple eras. A guy that did it when
people thought he was washed. A guy that everyone
knows. Even if you don't know boxing, you know
the name. Big George Foreman. Guy beat Joe Frazier.
Guy beat Ken Norton. Guy beat Ron Lyle, man.
Guy beat Michael Moore. Like, what are we talking
about, man? George Foreman's a legend. We've
got to have him in this round. Some say beat
on Chan Breaks. Let's go, champ. That's what
I say to that. Great pick. Can I say something
about that? I think he's a greater fighter than
your first round pick. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. What
a take. Here's the deal with George Foreman,
right? The two best heavyweight eras of all time,
in my opinion, the 1970s and the 1990s. And George
Foreman was the lineal heavyweight champion of
both those eras. Really, you are on the clock.
I'm going to keep the theme going of pretty much
keeping it simple with a little bit of reach
in there. He's talking right now. Yeah, he's
talking. Yeah, I hear him. I'm good, I'm good.
Yeah, keep going. Yeah, like I said, I'm going
to keep the theme going of everybody keeping
it simple and reaching at the same time. So what
I'm going to do is this guy right here, to me,
he's the... He's the best fighter I've ever seen
with my own two eyes. It's not even close, you
know what I'm saying? I mean, he got everything,
speed, power, you name it, you know? But I think
got titles at middle, super middleweight, light
heavy, heavy. I'm going Roy Jones Jr., man. Y
'all must have forgotten. Let's go. Let's fucking
go. Let's go. You know what? Everyone that picked
him before you must have forgot. That's the honest
truth. That's the perfect saying. I'm just keeping
the thing going here so we can reach a little
bit right in this round. Yeah. All right. We
got Gray up next. Gray is on the road right now,
but he said he was pulling into a Panera to try
to steal some Wi -Fi to make his pick. He's just
joining back right now. hey this this on the
road thing ain't for everybody just joined back
as a speaker gray who are you picking as the
number 17th overall fighter since you left we
had ezard charles roberto duran george foreman
and roy jones jr taken okay so i'm stealing internet
from a panera bread parking lot so bear with
me here i got the laptop open i appreciate the
dedication i know thank you i just pulled over
for about an hour. I know this could take. They
make great sandwiches there. A little peek behind
the curtain. He wanted Ezra Charles and then
right as he sent me that DM, BV took off. I did.
I'm a little sad about that. And then I gave
you an alternate pick and now I'm questioning
my alternate pick. Give me a second here. I have
to review who we got. Fuck it. I'm going to go
with... He's gone too. Everybody I wanted. I'm
just going to take Rocky Marciano. Whatever.
Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. That is a horrible pick.
Yeah, it is. I got to tell you. Not only that,
I told you that Gray was going to go back to
when America was a great era. I predicted it.
And here it is, the first Neanderthal. Rocky
did beat a few people that already got drafted.
Rocky Marciano was picked in a parking lot at
Panera. I mean, that's a saying. In the second
round. He did beat Joe Lewis when he was 67 years
old. He did beat Joe Lewis when he was 60 years
old. Old as a Charles, old Archie Moore. He did
it, baby. He knocked them all out. And funny
enough, little known fact, Rocky Marciano beat
Muhammad Ali, but it was a simulation. Yo, yo,
man, about the simulation. They ran it like 25
times or some bullshit, and they picked the one
to show on TV, the one, the Rocky one. I don't
know about knockouts. Jesus. Okay. Who's next?
Ezra, number 18. Overall pick. Your pick of the
second round. Oh, it's me? Okay, perfect. I'm
going to take the best, one of the greatest defensive
fighters of all time. I don't know if he truly
won a round without being touched, but I will
be taking Lily Pep. That is not the rumor. That's
the way for me to think of a light guy. Yeah,
the rumor is that he won without throwing a punch,
right? Yeah, that's the legend. Hold on, what
were you going to say, J -Ro? The rumor is that
he won a round without throwing a punch. That
did not happen. It didn't happen, but he did
get picked here. Willie Pep is my second -round
pick, and I got to be honest with you, I'm surprised
he fouled him. Listen, that's another horrible
pick, by the way. Oh, really? I will say this.
When you said one of the greatest defensive fighters
of all time, that didn't go the way I think it
was going to go. Oh, really? I was thinking of
someone else as well. I'm sure J -Ro's about
to take my guy. No, I'm not. I don't think I'm
going to pick your guy. Ezra said, hey, J -Ro,
you don't have to worry. Your list is safe. I
think he's right because number one on my draft
board was Sugar Ray Robinson. I picked him. Number
two on my draft board is right here for me to
pick. No, I get it. For me, again, I'm always
going with the greatest. Finals of all time,
greatest athlete of all time. Anything we do
with this draft, I'm not looking at the best.
I'm not looking who will win or this and that.
I'm looking who has the resume, the accomplishments,
who is the greatest. We're talking about a guy
that had Hall of Fame wins versus, well, no,
he beat him. 17 Hall of Famers, 17. We're talking
about Gene Tunney, Mickey Walker, Tiger Flowers,
Johnny Wilson, George Hips, Al McCoy, Tommy Loughran.
Mike McGeady, Mike and Tommy Gibbons, Jeff Smith,
Billy Misk, Jimmy Slattery, Kid Morpho, Maxie
Rosenblum, Jack Dillon, Baron Levinsky. 17 Hall
of Famers, this man beat him. And some of them,
he only beat him with one eye because he was
blind from one eye. He was also avoided by Jack
Dempsey. He, at heavyweight, he had better wins
than Jack Dempsey had. He went from middleweight,
line heavyweight, and heavyweight. And again,
at that point in time in boxing, very important
to note, black fighters did not get title shots.
White elite fighters, white champions did not
give black fighters the opportunity. However,
this white fighter was so confident in his ability
that he said, yo, I will cross the color barrier.
Bring on whoever you want to give me. I will
fight him. I will give him the chance. If they're
good enough to beat me, they're good enough to
beat me. But I think I'm good enough to beat
them. We talk about Harry Greb. There's no video
of his fights, but there's video of his opponents.
There's video of Tiger Flowers. There's video
of Jim Tunney. There's video of Matthew Rosenblum.
There's video of Mickey Walker. You can see how
capable those fighters were. And for Harry Greb
to be able to beat them, my God, that shows you
how great this man was. It would be Harry Graben
with my 19th pick overall. That is a great pick.
Fantastic pick, but I will say when J -Ro was
naming off his opponent, I was expecting him
to say Bugsy Siegel and Al Capone. It sounded
like a bunch of mobsters. I was like, yeah, see?
He beat up all these guys. But I'm going to get
to my pick, okay? I'm going to get to the pick
that I thought Ezra was going. where he said
it's one of the greatest defensive fighters of
all time. I'm going with a defensive master,
the greatest softball. Don't do it. World titles
in four weight classes, lightweight, junior welterweight,
welterweight, and super welterweight. Notable
victories over Julio Cesar Chavez. I don't give
a fuck what the scorecard said that we've never
seen until this day. Okay, I'm going with...
Norfolk, Virginia legend, sweet pea, Cornell
Whitaker. I really don't like you. I'm about
to cry. You know what? I also thought that what
Ezra was going when he said that. I was already
crossing out Whitaker on my list. And I was like,
wait a minute. That was the first name I thought
about. And then I knew Ezra, so I typed in Pep.
Let's go. Now I think he's going to say Willie
Pep. That's crazy. You got to counter, man. Matt,
you have back -to -back picks here. Who are you
taking to start off the third round? To start
off the third round, I got to be honest with
you. I'm just reading off my greatest African
-Americans of all time list. So at number 10
was Pernod Whitaker. At number 11 is one of the
biggest anomalies in the history of boxing, okay?
Won world titles in five weight classes, welterweight.
Junior middleweight, middleweight, super middleweight,
light heavyweight, first ever WBO champion, actually.
Not only that, great fights. He made Roberto
Duran faceplant. I'm talking about the Motor
City Cobra himself. Thomas, Tommy, the Hitman
Hearns. I just wiped off my tattoo on this board.
All right. It's a good pick here to start off
the third round. I honestly thought he would
be a second round pick. So J -Ro, who are we
taking with your second pick in the third round,
number 22 overall? Alright, we're going to go
with one of the greatest lightweights of all
time. A guy that also has multiple wins versus
Hall of Famers. Hold on, give me one second here.
I think he's yelling at his kids. When is my
turn? How does this even work? You don't see
the draft board? Are you looking at the draft
board? TJ, you're in the space. If you look at
the big board, there's a link up top and you
can actually go to the draft board. Every time
we go past a round, it comes back in reverse
order. The numbers are there in the square. Y
'all niggas getting fancy with this shit. Nice.
All right, sorry about that. Can you guys hear
me? Yes. All right. I haven't made my pick yet,
right? No, no. Anyway, my pick is going to be
Benny Leonard. One of the greatest lightweights
of all time. Has wins over Willie Ritchie, Freddie
Walsh, Lou Tendler, Rocky Kansas. I think Johnny
Dundee as well. One of the greatest lightweight
of all time, maybe top five greatest lightweight
of all time. We'll go with Benny Leonard. All
right. Benny Leonard taken at number 22 overall,
number 23. Ezra, the third pick of the third
round. Who are you taking? You know, I was originally
supposed to wear a different shirt today, and
it would have been fitting for this pick. I was
going to wear a wild card shirt. I was going
to have a wildcard shirt on. It would have been
perfect for this pick and error. I didn't know
if this guy was going to fall on me or not. I'm
taking Manny Pacquiao. A man that, like I said,
I think of guys that went up in weight classes
and their ability kind of let them kind of just
go and move past a bunch of weight classes and
still be a really effective fighter, still be
a great fighter. Was Floyd's rival, came up short
to Floyd, but other than Floyd, there were no
other rivals for him. I will take Manny Pacquiao.
That's a good thing Lord didn't make the draft.
All right. Gray, are you still with us? Yeah,
I'm still in the parking lot. I'm in a Burger
King parking lot. All right. Who are you taking?
Number four of the third round, 24th overall.
I'm going to take Ike Williams. Great lightweight.
You guys like Gabby Long, Bo Jack, Sammy Angot,
Bob Montgomery. Two -time world champion in that,
again, era where we're fighting all the time.
Great fighter. Ike Williams. All right. And Gritty,
you're up next here. 25th overall. We're at the
quarter mark of the draft. Okay. Top 25. So it's
got to be somebody that's got to make the top
25, in my opinion. They've been some great chicks.
But I'm going to go with the guy who I think
is undisputed at middleweight for, I think, eight
years or something like that. You know, you think
about pressure fighters, he's number one in that
category for me. Ran in the 80s. I'm going with
the marvelous one, man. Marvin Hagler. Good pick.
That was going to be my next pick if it wasn't
Pacquiao. Beat Duran, beat Hearns, beat Mugabe.
Got robbed against Leonard. Now that I'm older
and I watch the fight again, I won't call it
a robbery. In my opinion, beat Ray Leonard. I'm
going with Marvin Hagel. That's a great pick.
That was literally my pick. That was my pick.
I definitely deserve it if it's all 25. 52 -3
-2. Okay? With 52 knockouts. Yeah, I didn't say
somebody mean, and I'm shocked for it. Well,
one might be taking them now. We will wait and
see. One. 26th overall. Like I said, I was going
to take Hagler. I had him queued up, ready to
go. But I'm looking at my list. I got two heavyweights
already. I'm adding another heavyweight. The
great Larry Holmes. Missed an assassin. 69 wins.
44 by knockout. Guy fought nearly 30 years combined.
Victories over Jerry Cooney, Kenny Norton. One
of the hardest hitters of all time, Ernie Shavers.
Just a great fighter. One of the best jabs you'll
ever see. The fight with him didn't start until
you got past the jab. Yo, that's exactly what
I was thinking about, Juan. That's crazy. Tony,
I was about to ask if that's the name you were
thinking about. Yeah, that's exactly the name
I was thinking about. You'll have to shift for
your pick here in a couple, but right now we
got T .Y. T .Y. up with the 27th overall pick,
the sixth pick of the third round. Yeah, I'm
right here. So fuck it. What number is this?
27? It's the 27th overall pick. Fuck it. I'm
going to change Bud Crawford. Oh, wow. Let's
go. Let's fucking go, Sasha. I'm going way back.
Let's go. Let's go. I'm going misunderstood right
here, man. Listen, man, resume speak for itself.
They changed the game, right? They changed the
game, right? I'm not going to lie. That was a
beach ball by Tommy Hearns' arm. Follow Mr. Fantastic.
I get why because motherfuckers are sniping people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told you it threw off the
whole rhythm of the draft. It did. It threw off
the whole rhythm. All right, VV. I think you're
going to try to bring some order to what you
feel the actual ranking should be. I can't believe
how easy this draft is. Yo, look, I got to say
it again. Put it right on a plate for me. That's
a fastball down the middle, 95 miles per hour.
I'm going to go a little bit more modern this
time. I'm going to take one of my favorite fighters
of all time. This guy is a serial winner, an
Olympic gold medalist, undisputed at light heavyweight,
moves up, immediately beats the lineal undefeated
champion. I got to take him. I got to take Michael
Spinks. I don't know how the fuck he's not been
taken. That's not even what I was thinking. Michael
Spinks is a great pick here. TJ, a couple of
your guys have been picked, it seems like, that
you were thinking of with Larry Holmes and Terrence
Crawford. Which direction are you going at number
29? I ain't even clutched it for real. I'm just
going Evander Holyfield. One of the greatest
heavyweights of all time. Monster. Also one of
the greatest pros of weight. And I think he's
the second greatest heavyweight behind Lenny
Lewis, like Bobby said, because they both almost
beat everyone. They were monsters. Alright, that's
a great pick. Bobby, you got back -to -back picks
here to close out the third and open the fourth.
Y 'all are going to hate this, but I don't care.
I'm going with the guy that got me into boxing.
That made me start watching boxing. The most
exciting fighter in history. I'm going with the
guy that cleared... They made a whole tournament
in the 80s. And this guy washed all up to the
point where now people are like, man, he didn't
fight anybody, bro. He cleared out a whole set.
And then he beat a couple old niggas on the way.
And he beat TVB on BV's pick. I'm going with
Mike Tyson. Let's go. Mike Tyson. And then this
one might be a little controversial, but I'm
going with the first pick in the fourth round.
I'm going with an all -time great middleweight.
Probably top two or three. I'm going with Carlos
Mago. Oh, damn it. That's a great pick. That's
a great pick. That's a good pick. I think that's
been your best pick so far in this goddamn job,
Bobby. That would have been my pick this round
if it would have made it to me. TJ, you are up
again. It's a fourth round pick. Who are you
taking? My fourth round pick. I'm going for Nita
Lopez. That's right. Finito. There we go. Vivi,
you're up. 33rd overall pick. Another one right
over the plate. I'm taking the old master. Maybe
the greatest lightweight of all time, Joe Gans.
Come on. Anyone want to add anything on Joe Gans
before we move on to TY's pick? I can add something.
He was one of the hardest punchers of all time,
first off. He's basically fucking idolized by
every single great fighter you can think of because
he was really the first great fighter, in my
opinion. He just is what he is. Also, I think
he's a related champion. The first black world
champion. Yeah, see? A lot of stuff. Great, great
fighter. We're in the middle of the draft here.
T .Y., this might be where a little picks start
to get a little difficult to differentiate between
who you're taking at number 34. I'm going with
my guy right here. I'm going with my man, Smuggler
Joe Frazier, man. Olympic medalist, heavyweight
champ of the world. Only could be lost to was
Foreman and Ali. Great fighter. Great man in
and out of the ring, man. One of the strongest
left hooks. He was in the fighter's century.
You know what I mean? He just happened to know.
He might have been a little bit more popular
with the Ali situation. You know what I mean?
But shit happens for a reason. But I want some
more good joke right here with my forefront.
We're back to you, Juan. Today, the word boogeyman
is something that's overused. All these people
claim, oh, I'm a boogeyman. He's a boogeyman.
No one wants to fight him. This guy was a real
boogeyman. A guy that was truly avoided for many
reasons. Charlie Berman. A guy who was a great
welterweight, great middleweight. He was a victory
over Archie Moore, which drafted in the first
round. And Archie Moore would say, that's the
best fighter I've ever fought in my life. That's
what he said. Ray Robinson was quoted as saying,
I'm too pretty. To fight Charlie Burley because
he knows that would be a motherfucking war. Guy
has victories over Coco Kid, other members of
the Black Murderers Row. Just one of the best
ever. It's a shame he wasn't allowed to fight
for a world championship because we'd be talking
about a multiple time world champion. That would
have been my pick. Great pick. Did I say something
about him too, by the way? Of course. He was
ducked. And he was really ducked also. By the
guy that was picked number three in this draft,
Henry Armstrong. They were at welterweight at
the same time. Sean Burley was the number one
contender for Armstrong's welterweight title.
Everybody's talking about Shuey Robinson. Henry
Armstrong avoided Doug Burley for years. Years.
Crazy. Shout out to my dad with that pick. Who
we taking at number 36? Draft's getting interesting
now. This is part of the draft I really like
because you got to kind of dig in a little bit.
Yeah, there's the trenches right here. But since
we're in the trenches, man, this guy I used to
think was overhyped. I ain't gonna lie. Like,
one of my uncles loved this dude. You know what
I'm saying? I used to be like, bro, he... It
was kind of like a... a big pun type of situation
where you got them big pun fans and be like,
man, you know, he was just technically just that
guy. You know what I'm saying? But... He never
got to show it all the way in full because his
career was cut very short. I'm going that Mexican
featherweight, man. I'm going Salvador Sanchez.
What is happening right now? What is happening?
That was a great pick. In my opinion, the best
Mexican fighter of all time. Didn't get the chance
to prove it, but I think he would have. Yeah,
when I was young, I used to be like, man, my
uncle used to always talk about mine. You know
what I'm saying? But then when I saw him, I was
like, okay, yeah. Biggie Smalls or the boxing
shit. And you know, Biggie Smalls, right? He
still had what? Two classics, right? Even though
he's not young, two classics. His career was
cut short. He be what? Dominated Gomez. Yeah,
3 or 4 hundred famous in his resume. 3 or 4 hundred
famous in his resume with a short career. My
man died from a car accident. Yep. What'd he
defend? I think he still had like 10 title defenses
on the featherweight title. Maybe 9 or 10. He
was young, man. 23. Damn, he was young as shit.
Yeah, career cut very short, very short, but
still was able to accomplish a lot. Gray, you're
up at number 37. And one more thing, too, and
he stopped with Zuma Nelson, man. Go ahead. Do
we have you, Gray? Yeah. Gray, old country buffet.
I'm still in the parking lot here. Yeah, I'm
going to go Alexis Arguello. Damn. Three -weight
world champion. Top guy for many years before
the prior fights. Just consistently good at three
different weight classes. In my opinion, I think
he's one of, if not the best available for going
Arguello. Yeah, Groh was a great champion. Ezra,
it sounds like your board's getting depleted
as these picks are getting named. This is insane.
I'm in a spot here. Am I up? I'm going to go
with a guy that... I'm kind of becoming the guy
that I didn't want to be in this draft. I got
to be honest with you. You guys are leaving me
no choice. I'm totally against late replacements.
I got to tell you now. You guys changed my whole
opinion on late replacements. You're drafting
against the people that are drafting. That's
what you have to realize. I'm not picking a board.
I'm picking against people that are drafting.
I'm going to go with the man, though, that was
Cuban. From Mexico, Jose Napoles. That's who
I'm going to go with. A man that was one of the
best fighters. Titles in divisions, multiple
divisions. He was a great talent. He was so good,
they used to call him Butter. That's who I'm
going to go with my pick. What did they call
him, Ezra? They called him Butter. I had him
at 37. I got to say, I'm so happy with that pick,
because in the words of Skip Bayless, it's almost
my turn. Go ahead, J -Ro. J -Ro, we're closing
out the fourth round. Who are you taking? All
right, well, the greatest fighter, in my opinion,
the greatest fighter of the Black Morris role
was taken already. So I'm going to go with the
second greatest fighter of the Black Morris role.
I'm going to go with Holman Williams. Record
of 146 wins, 31 losses, 11 draws. Has wins over
Hall of Famer's Charles Burley, who he was picking
before him. But I think Charles Burley's great.
Archie Moore, Cocoa Kid, Lloyd Marshall, Eddie
Booker, one of the most underrated fighters of
all time, and Bob Satterfield. We'll go with
Holman Williams at this pick. Man, what a great,
great pick, J -Ro. Great pick. Man, I'm excited
about my pick. Because I heard Ezra espouse the
virtues of the great Neanderthal, Willie Pep.
But there was one guy that Willie Pep ain't want
to see across from him in the ring. He fought
Willie Pep three times. He beat Willie Pep. No,
no. He fought Willie Pepp four times, beat Willie
Pepp three times. Ended his career with 144 wins,
103 knockouts. Champion. Champion. Multiple times
at featherweight. Long reigning champion. One
of the greatest of all time and one of the dirtiest
players in the game. Fun fact, he is also the
uncle of the great hip -hop pioneer Joseph Sadler,
a .k .a. Grandmaster Flash. I'm talking about,
sit him down, Sandy Sadler. Great take. And I
just learned that bit of history from that a
few weeks ago. Love Sandy Sadler. Love, love,
love, love Sandy Sadler. Now, I have back -to
-back picks. So, I'm going to go a little bit
off my reservation. You know, because this draft
for me was going to be all black everything.
But, but, I want to recognize someone that is
not of our persuasion. One of my favorite fighters
of all time. The greatest Brazilian fighter in
history. The golden bantamweight himself, Eda
Joffrey. Thank you. That was a really good pick.
Well, what is Joe's record, man? There's something
insane, by the way. 72, 2, and 4. 50 wins by
knockout. Yeah. Ridiculous. Great big, great
big. All right. It's on me. Now, I'm going to
go with the first time the term pound for pound
was ever used. Ever used in the newspaper was
for this one fighter who was the middleweight
champion. Light heavyweight champion, went up
to be the heavyweight champion. They came back
down to light heavyweight to regain the light
heavyweight title. The first ever pound for pound
guy, we'll go with Bob Fitzsimmons. Great pick.
Ezra, you're up again. Okay, I'm going to go
with. A lot of people were choosing the guys
that got them into boxing. They're one of their
favorite fighters when they started watching
boxing. This was my favorite fighter when I started
watching boxing. This was the guy that my whole
family would sit down around TV and get excited
to watch. Terrible pick, by the way. This will
be a terrible pick. I am picking Oscar De La
Hoya, the golden boy, Olympic gold medalist,
six division champion. I am taking Oscar De La
Hoya. Oh, baby. Oh, baby. Let's go. Keep the
controversy going. I don't think it's a controversial
pick. It's an early pick. I don't know that I
expected Oscar to go before the halfway point
of the draft. Oh, it's very controversial. Great.
Let's keep it rolling. You are up with your fifth
round pick, number 44 overall. Yeah, see? I'm
going to take somebody white. Guys, I'm here.
I'm here. I'm here. Sorry. No, you're good. I'm
going to start to pick guys that I actually was
alive when they fought. I'm looking at the board.
I'm just confirming he hasn't been picked. It
looks like he hasn't. One of my favorite fighters
is a kid. We're going to go featherweight. We're
going to go Juan Manuel Marquez. What the fuck?
Great first name, by the way. He wasn't even
better than the... He was even the best of the
three Mexican Musketeers. Yeah, that shit early
as fuck, but I love Juan Manuel Marquez. No,
I don't care. I agree with Gray. I got to say.
Marquez is the reason why I watch boxing. That's
for having my dog. Listen. tenacious motherfucker.
Okay? I watched that man get knocked down three
times in the first round by Manny Pacquiao. And
he couldn't get out of the draw. I saw that guy.
Oh, sorry. I don't want to interrupt. No, I'm
joking. Go ahead. Michael Katsidis hit him with
a fucking bomb. And somehow, he got up and his
stamina bar went back to 100. He ended up stopping
him. Like, this guy was very good at featherweight.
He was solid at lightweight. Just good across
many weight classes. I mean, yeah, did he peak
out at 140? Yeah, but he was still competitive.
He knocked out Manny Pacquiao, I remember, when
Pacquiao was 147. So I just think a guy that
going up, being pretty excellent from featherweight
to Walter. I mean, yeah, Barrera had a great
career. Morales had a great career, but Marquez
was my guy. You know what's funny? Go ahead.
We don't. You don't either. When people complain
about Box Rex rankings, we always try to say
it's not great at the formula. I think it's actually
great. I think it's great. He's ranking on vibes.
No, Marquez is my guy. No, Marquez is my dude
too. I used to love how he counterpunched. Marquez
is a counterpunch, but he counterpunched in a
combination. It's about full of those shits coming
back. He's responsible for taking memes to the
next level when he knocked out Manny Pacquiao.
That shit was everywhere. When they're drinking
piss and shit, it's disgusting. But he was a
savage. Alright, we're getting some interesting
picks here in the fifth. Grit, who are you taking?
45 overall. 45, I like that number. So in the
top 50, this is how highly I think of this guy.
I don't think there's any current fighters that
should be in the top 50 besides this guy. I think
only one could. I guess he just retired. But
I don't think he's top 50 fighter. But I think
this guy is a top 50 fighter. I want to say,
what, four -division champion? Correct me if
I'm wrong. Undisputed in two divisions. Current
pound for pound number one. I'm going to add
Japanese monster. Now you're in your way. I think
of him. Better than Juan Manuel Marquez. I like
that picture. Good picture. I like that picture.
That's how highly I think of him. Exactly, Greg.
Hey, I'll tell you this. 33 years old, still
operating at the highest level. Anyway, he's
in a cup for drug testing. Marquez pees in a
cup to avoid drug testers by drinking it. It
is what it is. Fire me up, man. Marquez drank
his own piss. Yeah, that thing is crazy. Yeah,
that was on the 24 -7. I'll never forget that
shit. One. 46th overall pick. 46th overall. I'm
going to take a guy that was a monster not only
at welterweight, but also at middleweight. throughout
the, I believe, the early 60s through the 70s.
This guy was just a machine, fighting all the
top -ranked guys he could. I'm talking about
Emile Griffith, 85 victories. 24 losses, I believe,
but he was always in there with the best fighters.
We look back at some of the guys he was fighting,
he was always a top -ranked guy. Benny the Kid,
he was fighting Luis Rodriguez, the famous Dick
Tiger. He was beating the who's who of his era.
There's a joke there, but I won't say it. I had
Emile at like 30, I think. It's so funny. He
said Emile Griffith was beating dick. Not the
first time he's done that, right, man? You had
him at what, 30, you said? Yeah, I had Emile
Griffith at 34 on my board. He was 46 overall.
Yeah, I had him at 30 on mine. He killed a fighter
in the ring too, by the way. What murder? What
murder? What was the famous quote, J -Ro? They
love me for killing a man, but they hate me for
loving a man. That's why I'm making all them
dick jokes. I thought Matt was just on his freaky
shit. I didn't even know that. He was very gay.
He was very gay as crazy. T .Y., get this train
back on the rails. Who are you picking? Famous
quote by Mel Griffith, besides the one J -Ross
says, he said to Benny Parrott, who's the Mardi
Gras now? I don't think he said that. I don't
think he said that, by the way. I'm going to
go with one of them. He's one of the best offensive
fighters ever. He's one of the best trans talkers
ever. He's one of the best nicknames ever. I'm
going with James Lysol, Tony. Three -division
champion. I'm going with James Tony right here.
Oh, my God. I love that pick. Vivian, I'm assuming
that your board is still just going chalk according
to you. So who are you taking? I mean, I don't
have to say it. I'm going to take one of the
greatest of all time. I'm going to take a guy
that was, in my opinion, the greatest fighter
of all time. Not the greatest boxer, but the
greatest fighter. This is a dude that's going
to get in there. He's going to fuck you up. Had
one of the greatest fights ever against Gil Turner.
He beat the likes of Ike Williams, Carmen Basilio,
BoJack. Come on. I'm taking Kid Gavilan. Who
said I don't have to say it? I think you do.
I think you do. I don't have to say it. It's
getting easy for me. I'm sleepwalking through
the draft. That was good, Ezra. I think you do.
TJ. He said I don't have to say it. The name
of someone most people don't know. 49th overall.
Almost to the end of the fifth round. Who are
you taking? With the 49th pick, I take in one
of the greatest bantamweights of all time, one
of the hardest punching bantamweights of all
time, Carlos Zarate. Ooh, Karate Zarate. Karate
Zarate. Let's go. Karate Zarate, nigga. Bobby,
you're closing out the halfway point of the draft,
entering in the second half of the draft with
these back -to -back picks, 50 and 51. Who are
you taking? I'm keeping the controversy. Let's
go. Oh, my God. He beat Ezra's pick. I know that.
He beat Ezra's pick twice. You know what I'm
saying? He almost knocked out Floyd, but we couldn't
get the job done. Oh, that's not where I think
you're going. All right. And for the first pick
of the second round, or sixth round. I'm going
with my old nigga. I'm going with my old nigga.
I'm going with Kid Chocolate. The original Kid
Chocolate. Not Peter Quillen, by the way. Yeah,
so, yeah. The original Kid Chocolate. Yeah, great
take. Great take, Bobby. I know. She was like,
Peter Quillen? I know. I know Kid Chocolate.
Danny Jacobs whoops his ass. I hate that. TJ,
you got the second pick in the sixth round. Where
are you going with this one? With the second
pick of the sixth round, I'm going Aaron Pryor.
Yeah. I like that pick. Yeah. All right, Vivi,
you're up again. I'm going to take the greatest
Puerto Rican fighter of all time, one of the
most devastating punches of all time, beat the
likes of Karate Zarate and Lupe Pintor. I'm going
to take Wilfredo Gomez. Bazooka. All right. T
.Y., your sixth round pick is going to be? The
greatest Puerto Rican fighter of all time. I'm
going to feel his strength in that. Oh, wow.
That's where Bobby was going. One. I'm going
with the greatest Puerto Rican fighter of all
time. Coco J. I will say this. One of you guys
are wrong. But all three of you guys got the
top three Puerto Rican fighters of all time.
That's true. Oh, man. Would there be a top Dominican
boxer drafted, man? No. Gritty, we're back to
you in the sixth round. That's a boxy moron.
Sixth round pick. You know, I'm surprised this
guy ain't winning, bro. I'm not really surprised.
I think it's some people like, we ain't dealing
with old niggas and we ain't dealing with them.
with the white boys like that right now but to
me he could have easily went in the top 20 you
know what i'm saying just off of he kind of the
one who put the heavyweight division as a popular
glamour division you know if you look at history
but you know i'm gonna go uh jack dempsey man
Jack Dempsey off the board. BoxRackGrey, which
way are you going in the sixth round here? Who
are you picking? Real quick, BoxRack. Jack Dempsey.
First million dollar gay fighter ever. That's
a great stat. Great piece of trivia. He kind
of put the headway division on that map. I got
to give him credit just off that. I'm going to
go with another heavyweight. I'm going to go
Harry Wills. Oh, that's a great pick. That's
a great pick. All right. Harry Wills off the
board. Ezra, we're back to you. We're closing
out the sixth round. Three picks away. I'm going
to go with Eric Morales. Oh, my God. All right.
Eric Morales off the board. Some say he was better
than Gray's pick in the fifth round. J -Ro. I'm
going to go with another black world role fighter.
A guy, Ezra Charles was picked. By the way, I
had Ezra Charles number five on my draft board.
I think he was picked in the second round. I
think that was his skill. But this guy stopped
Ezra Charles in the eighth round. Also has wins
over Jake LaMotta, Joey Maxim, Lou Breillard,
Freddie Mills. I'm going to take the one and
only Lloyd Marshall. I like that. All right.
Lloyd Marshall off the board. Matt, to close
out the sixth round, give your 60th pick and
then we'll go into the seventh round with your
61st. All right. I'm going to use the KISS theory.
Keep it simple, stupid. Okay. And I'm going to
go with someone who is one of the great light
heavyweights of all time. He held the light heavyweight
title from 1968 to 1974, making 14 successful
title defenses. finished his career with 56 wins,
only eight losses, one draw, 46 knockouts, with
a win over Dick Tiger and Chris Finnegan. He
also competed at heavyweight against guys like
Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali, one of the all -time
greats, my guy, Bob Foster. That's the biggest
knuckles I've ever seen on a fighter. I'm not
going to touch that one. Moving forward. He's
the biggest nigga I've ever seen on a fighter.
He wasn't even talking about his hand. What are
you talking about? Control your space, man. Come
on, man. There's a collab. That nigga Matt is
fucking gay. Matt, get on with it. Start the
seventh round. With my seventh round pick, I'm
going with the guy that lefty knew I was going
to draft. The Georgia Deacon himself, the first
African -American middleweight champion. He finished
his career with 119 wins, only 15 losses, eight
draws, 55 knockouts. And he beat Harry Greb and
Mickey Walker. I'm talking about Tiger Flowers.
All right, we're getting to the back half of
the draft here, almost closing out. J -Ro, your
seventh pick in the draft is going to be who?
All right, I'm going to go with a three -division
champ. Has Hall of Fame wins over Tony Castaneri
and Jimmy McLaurin. Has a record. Hold on, let
me get his record real quick because he has a
fantastic record as well of 72 wins, four losses,
and three draws. We go with Barney Ross. I was
second up, less on my best available. All right,
Nezer, we're back to you with your seventh pick,
number 63 overall. I'm going with Ruben Olivares,
one of the best 118 pounders of all time, vicious
puncher. That's my pick for this round. You know
what, that was better than your Oscar De La Hoya
pick. You should have picked Ruben Olivares with
that Oscar De La Hoya pick, to be honest with
you. Hey, got him back. Gray, so you just joined
again. Do we have you? If so, who was your seventh
round pick? Yeah, hold on. Give me one second.
Your connection sounds way better. Is it better?
Way better. What? Why do you always sound stressed
out? Hello? Can you hear us? We can hear you,
Gray. I'm in a fucking parking lot stealing wireless.
Yeah, I can hear you. Can you hear me? Yeah,
we can hear you. Who are you taking here in the
seventh round, Greg? Can you guys hear me? Greg
can hear us. Fighting Harada! Okay, got it. Is
this the most stress anyone's ever been doing
in one of these drafts? It has to be. I was about
to remove him as a speaker too, but then he got
his pick in. All right, Gritty, who are you taking
with the seventh round pick? It's getting tough
right now. It's getting real tough. I don't know
if I want to go popular or if I want to go history.
I'm going to go history and probably best available,
too. Give me Toy Bull, though, man. Mickey Walker.
Beat Tiger Flowers. Beat a couple of these guys
that's up there already. Yo, you probably got
the still in this job. That's a great pick. Yeah,
I had them as best available. Then I had a...
Who you just got? That was my second best available
on there. Oh, Ross. Barney Ross. Barney Ross.
Yeah. All right, Juan, you are up with your seventh
round pick. I am going with, can you hear me?
Yeah, I'm going with another member of the Black
Murderers Row, a guy who was denied a title shot
because of the color of his skin. I'm going with
a guy who was a massive puncher in eye injury.
ended his career early because someone tainted
their glove and actually put some shit in his
eye that he couldn't fight anymore in his mid
-20s. So we lost a lot of his prime, but he has
a knockout victory over the great Archie Moore
who was drafted in the first round. I'm talking
about Eddie Booker. Great pick. That's a great
pick. Fuck Jack Chase, right? Because Jack Chase
is the one that did with the glove that brought
it to his eye. Do you remember what it was that
they put on his glove? No, it was something like
Sharp that just ruined his retina. It was something
they put inside that could poke his retina out.
His retina, yeah. His retina? Also, Jack Chase
is another guy. He shot another Black Mars Roadrunner
member. Aaron Wade, I believe was his name. I
think it was. But anyway. And they end up fighting.
The other dude shot the nigga out. He shot the
nigga out. Yeah. And Eddie Booker, when he stopped
Archie Moore, right? He beat up Archie Moore
so bad that he was in the hospital and helped
donate blood to save Archie Moore's life. Damn.
And that was the fourth overall pick, by the
way. That's a crazy -ass lower name. Yeah. And
that just shows you how good Eddie Booker was.
Maybe the most underrated fighter of all time.
I'm surprised that you didn't end up taking him,
J -Ro. I really was. I thought he was going to
end up being on part of your board. He was on
my board. T .Y., who you got in the seventh round
here? Seventh round? Fuck it. I'm going to pick
Usyk. Oleksandr Usyk. Undisputed cruiserweight
champion moved up to heavyweight. Whatever Gray
is, Ty's the opposite. I'll tell you that right
now. Temperament for this draft, complete opposite
ends. Ty gives zero fucks while Gray is completely
stressed out. It's unbelievable. VV, I think
that last pick might have been the first pick
off your board that was taken. So where are you
going in the seventh? I'm going to go take my
talents to the lower weight classes. I think
for the first time, I'm going down to flyweight.
I'm taking one of the most skilled defensive
fighters in history. I'm taking a guy that, you
know, he won the world title against Shoji Oguma,
and you could not get this guy out of the fucking
ring. He fought and he fought and he fought everybody.
And he is one of the best fighters ever, in my
opinion, one of the best Mexican fighters ever,
Miguel Canto. All right, TJ. We're almost at
the end of the seventh round. You got the 69th
overall pick. Who are you taking? All right.
With the 69th pick, I'm taking Mike McCallum.
Jamaican champion. You said what? Good pick.
Good pick. Yeah. All right. And Bobby. You're
up here closing out the seventh round. Who are
you going to draft? I'm going with the youngest
world champion in history. I'm going with Wilford
Benitez. All right. Good pick. That is a good
pick. I like that. And then to close and to open
the eighth round, since you got back -to -back
here, what is your next pick? Oh, my God, man.
Margot Antonio Baru. There you go, Bobby. I feel
like you fucked up Ezra's board again. That was
top of my best available. TJ, we're back to you.
What pick you said it was again? This is the
72nd overall. I'm going with Matthew Saad Mohammed.
I'm sorry, who'd you say? Matthew Saad Mohammed.
My bad. Hold on. I got to turn my volume up here.
Say that one more time. Matthew Scott. All right.
Give me one second here. I'm going to get that
here typed in. All right. And Vivi, we got you
up in the eighth round. Closing out, we're coming
to the home stretch of the draft. Who are you
picking? I'm really excited about this one because
this is one of my favorite fighters of all time.
And we're keeping it in the lower weights. We're
going even lower. I'm taking another Mexican
fighter that I'm very glad is still on the board.
A guy that, you know, he could throw 100 punches
in any given round. In the next round, he could
get on the back foot and box your ears off and
you'll never touch him. He has some of the quickest
feet I've ever seen from a fighter. He could
fight on the back foot, by the way, despite being
like five foot tall. He had one of the most epic
trilogies of all time with Michael Carbajal.
He beat Jungkook Chang. He beat multiple great
fighters. He did get upset by Rolando Pascual,
came back, won his world title back. He was so
fucking good. So fucking good. Chiquita Gonzalez.
All right. T .Y., you're back up on the board.
Who are you taking? We wait patiently. TY, you're
on mute if you're talking. He's not. Here we
go. Oh, my bad. I'm going to take Joe Kawasaki.
All right. Hey, Ty. Do me a favor. Fall asleep.
This might be worse than his wrestling draft.
Come on. We're in the eighth round. We got three
rounds left. Well, you got three picks left.
Who are you taking here? I'm taking a personal
favorite of mine, a guy who I watched basically
his entire career. 32 -0, undefeated. Got wins
over guys like Chad Dawson, Carl Fronch, Sergei,
the Crusher, Kovalev. We see how he put his ass
down in that rematch. I'm talking about my man,
Andre. Ward. S -O -G. Modern great. Great pick.
Gritty. Fuck you. Do we have Gritty? Yeah, I'm
here. Oof. You're the 76th overall pick, so we're
in the last quarter of the draft here. Okay.
Hmm. it's a tough one right here it's real real
tough you know i'm gonna go back to the heavyweights
do i want to do that yeah i'm gonna go back to
the heavyweights man i'm gonna go to one of the
most feared heavyweights ever in my opinion that's
a slight reach maybe about a couple rounds but
i'm going sunny listen Sonny Liston is off the
board. And Gray, if we still have you in the
Panera parking lot, you're up 77th overall with
your eighth round pick. Yeah, I'm going Jimmy
Bivens. Damn it. All right. Jimmy Bivens off
the board. Ezra, your eighth round pick is going
to be. Now, this guy's probably already gone.
So I'm just I'm just asking a question because
I don't have my list. Gene Tunney is ticking.
No. I'm taking Gene Taney. I think that's actually
excellent value on this pick right here. The
greatest light heavyweights of all time. Okay.
The guy likes his own pick. I just thought he
was taking it. I've been passing him up because
I thought he was taking it. No, that is a good
pick. J -Ro, what's your eighth round pick? All
right, with my eighth round, I'm going to go
with somebody that was Manny Pacquiao before
Manny Pacquiao. A guy that beat Pancho Villa
near the flyweight limit, and then went up and
beat young Corbett III around the welterweight
limit. He has also, with other Hall of Famers
like Jackie Fields, Barney Ross, Kid Kaplan,
Freddie LaBarber. We're going to go with the
one and only Jimmy McFarlane. What was the last
name? McClarnon. M -C -L -A -R -N -I -N. Yeah,
I got it. Thank you. All right. Matt, with your
eighth and ninth picks, who are you taking? Okay.
So I'll be honest. Was not expecting J -Ro to
take someone that was on my board right before
me. But luckily, I have a big board. Hey now.
I am going with one of my favorite fighters of
all time. He beat Pamasad Hank. He beat Gene
Fulmer. He's beaten a lot of different guys.
I'm talking about Nigerian legend, the greatest
Nigerian fighter of all time, Dick Tiger. Now,
with my next pick, I'm going with the guy who
was the first man to ever regain the heavyweight
title. One of the youngest heavyweight champions
in history. I'm going with the gentleman, Floyd
Patterson. All right, we're in the homestretch.
J -Ro, this is your ninth overall pick. 82nd
overall for the draft. Where are you going? All
right, I'm going to go with more modern. This
guy's one of my favorite fighters of all time.
He made it to, I felt like he was a consistent
powerful pound number one fighter or division
champion. Made it to HBO. That was one of his
goals. He made it there, but he didn't get there
in his prime. Maybe at the tail end of his prime.
He actually ran. So, oh yeah, Inouye could fly
as the biggest small guy draws and stuff like
that. We'll go with Roman Chocolatito Gonzalez.
That's a great pick. That's a great pick. Great
pick in the ninth round. Ezra, you got two picks
left? Yeah, I'm going to take Azuma Nelson. Azuma
Nelson is a consistent fighter. Great power and
great fights. I'm going to take Azuma Nelson.
All right. BoxRecGrey, if we still have you.
Yeah, I'm here. I'm going to take a guy. I feel
like 9th round is the right time to go here.
At the end of the day, he still was the greatest
fighter in his weight class, in my opinion. I'm
going to take Ricardo Lopez. I think he's already
been taken. He's already gone? He was picked
a long time ago. Oh, in the fourth round? TJ
grabbed him. The young bull. I thought he was
still on the board. Fourth round. Jesus Christ.
Can you believe I just took a fighter that Finito
won in no parts of? I was so excited to take
him super well. It's so funny. Fourth round.
Did he take one more? That's right. He was my
guy. One of the greatest punches of all time.
He was my guy. I don't give a shit. I was so
excited for that pick. I was so like, oh yeah,
I got a great pick, guys. Now I have to fucking...
Definitely the Panera. I'm going to go... I don't
know. I'm picking a white guy, Matt, so feel
free to... I know. I'm picking the Phantom of
Philly, Tommy Laugren. Okay. L -O -U -G -H R
-A -N. You know, for some reason, I thought you
were going to take Jimmy Wilde. What do you think
I was going to take? I thought you were going
to take Jimmy Wilde. No, no, no. He's like a
15th round pick. Gritty, you got your first of
your last two picks. Who are we going at 85th
overall? It's real tough right now. It's real
thin. But I think I'm going to have to go. Somebody's
going to get left off. Somebody's going to get
left off. Just give me a... You know what? Fuck
it. I'm going to go rep for the little guys,
man. Give me my man... If I butcher the first
name, I could never say that name. My Detroit
accent don't allow me. Pascual Perez. Pascual
Perez. All right. There we go. Argentina's first
world champion. Shout out to the Nazis. Oh man,
great segue to Juan. Who are you taking here?
I'm sticking with the little guys here and I'm
also taking a guy with a great first name. One
of the best Mexican fighters of all time. Won
a championship in a couple weight classes. He
had some wars with J -Ro's guy, Chavo Rapito.
I'm talking about Juan Francisco Estrada. Oh,
great pick. That's a good pick. This is the ninth
round? I heard that, Matt. I heard that, Matt.
I like that pick. TY, tell us who you're taking
with the ninth round. I'm going to go with Vlad
Klitschko. You said Vlad? Yep. Yep. All right.
Vladimir Klitschko off the board. VV, 88th overall
pick is going to be who? My pick was stolen because
I was going to go for Guy Lestrade because, you
know, I do think he's the best of the modern
four kings. So I've pivoted to a guy that I think
should absolutely be picked in the top 100 boxes
of all time. A guy that has been, you know, picked
below multiple fighters in his weight class that
are absolutely fucking worse than him. I'm talking
about the youngest heavyweight champion of all
time, undisputed champion, unified the division
within months and dominated. And they'll rewrite
his career and say he was a myth. But that's
some fucking bullshit. I'm taking Mike Tyson.
He was knocking everybody out. If you need to
look at the board, the link is in the big board.
I was like, he's the youngest heavyweight of
all time. I was like, hold on. Bro, I thought
he was about to... I didn't know what he was
doing, but I was excited. I was like, I can't
wait to hear this guy. I'm about to look him
up after this. You thought you were going to
hear Moses Atama? I thought you were going to
say Moses Atama. I said, is this guy talking
about Moses Atama? I said, you know what? I don't
hate it. Okay, then you know what? We'll talk
about Barbados Joe Walcott. No, Joe Walcott wasn't
picked yet. He was mentioned. He wasn't picked,
though. Man, that was a great intro, though.
You're way better than me. You should take that
part. You should clip that part and then just
have Bobby pick it at the end. I just flagged
it. I might edit that. To be fair, Bobby still
got him behind fighters that he's better than.
TJ, you're down to your last two picks. I'm going
to go. Y 'all went over to the UK. Y 'all picked
any Fridays over from the UK? A couple have been
picked, TJ. What do you think, TJ? What do you
think? I'm going to go Carl Fox. The Cobra. Yeah,
the Cobra. We'll love it. Bob? Your last two
picks in 1991 overall. What'd you say, man? I
don't think TJ needed to ask if Carl Pratchett
said it. Carl Pratchett Hall of Famer, though.
What the fuck is he talking about? Almost all
their greatest fighters over there. A lot of
guys are Hall of Famers. He's way greater than
Vinny Page. To be fair to Carl Frost, right?
Yeah. From when he fought, I think he fought
John Pascal. When did he fight John Pascal? Like
in 2000? It was like 2009 or some shit. Okay,
2008. 2008. He fought John Pascal in 2008. From
there to 2014 when he fought George Groves. He
only had one bad opponent. And that was probably
what? Yusef Mack. Yeah, that was it. He beat
Glenn Johnson, Arthur Abraham, Taylor, Darrell,
Kessler, Abraham, Ben Johnson, Ward. It's a good
run. Hell of a run. Yeah, bro. That's a hell
of a run. Yeah, he had a six years where, bro,
he was just top five as a top five, top fighter.
He wanted it goats. He was a great fighter. I
like that big TJ. Yeah, I'm not. He's fat. Oh,
man. Bobby, you got your last two picks coming
up in the draft. 90 and 91. Who are you closing
out the ninth round and opening the tenth with?
Oh, the 90th pick. I'm going with a guy that
actually asked me that I want to go in his backyard
and spar with him. I'm going to go with Riddick
Bowe. He would have killed you. You know what?
Bobby, that's going in the book. They got to
go in the book. I'll tell you this. It's a strap.
Or whatever. Riddick Bowe might be the best talented
heavyweight of all time. Yes. Just talent, you
know what I mean? For one year, Riddick Bowe
was the best heavyweight in boxing history. He's
the best fighter in boxing history. Only for
one year. Only for one year, though. Big year.
And then with my last pick, I'm going to go with
a guy that I thought would be Ali at least twice,
but they only gave him one victory. I'm going
to go with Ken Norton, senior. Broke Ali's jaw,
right? Yes, sir. All right. TJ, your final pick
of the draft in the 10th round is going to be...
You already know who I'm picking. One of the
toughest fighters of all time. One of the greatest
fighters of all time. Ryan the Cowboy Carpenter.
Come on, TJ. Come on, TJ. Come on, TJ. Come on.
That's a nasty hero. That's great. We're going
to have to qualify that pick. No, I'm assuming
he's joking. Marco Antonio Bird. He got picked.
He got picked a couple rounds around. Damn. Oh,
my God. You know what? Was the thing with Joe
Crowe? Cowboy Crowe? Come on, man. Cowboy Crowe.
Cowboy Crowe. Not really, though. Hey, put Cowboy
Carl's top in here. No, no, no. I knew that was
a joke. We knew that was a joke. It wasn't a
joke, but it's not making a list. Y 'all think
it's so a lot of... If you need to look at the
board, you can click on the link in the big board.
We can come back to him. Get your last pick.
We can come back to you. On my board, it says
I took Joe Walcott and I would like the clarification
that I took Barbados. Barbados, yeah. Not Jersey
Joe. Not Jersey Joe. Okay, I can edit that going
back later. TJ. TJ, take Pancho Villa. Yeah.
Everybody want all my picks. TJ, take Pancho
Villa. Pancho Villa, nigga. Let's go. All right.
They got the flyweight Filipino. Great. Real
Filipino flash. He's done. Nigga stole all my
shit. You should look up Pancho Villa, though,
TJ. Look up his story. It's pretty cool. Hey,
Juan, have some respect for my friend. Hey, if
I only had one wish. Continue. VB, you're up
with your last pick. Who are you taking here
in the 10th round? Well, this is a tough one
because all of the guys that I wanted to take
here, they were already taken. I guess I just
didn't keep my list too updated. This was between,
like, okay, buddy. This was between three fighters
for me, and I'm going with the one that I like
the most, the one that I think is the most skilled
from my perception. I'm going with Michael Carbajal.
Let's go. Little hands of stone. We got Michael
Carbajal on the board. And then T .Y., 94th overall
pick. I'm going to go... I'm going to go not
seeing my man. Oh, come on. Are you kidding me,
Ty? Ty, are you kidding me? I was nervous for
a second. I thought he was going to take my pick.
Hey, listen, guys. You guys got to understand.
Ty ran out of boxes like eight rounds ago. Hey,
I can go with Glenn Tapia on my last shit. Because
I don't know who the fuck Pancho V is. Oh, yeah,
go with Glenn Tapia. Yeah, he's Glenn Tapia.
Wait, say that again. Glenn Tapia. Do you mean
Johnny Tapia? No, um... Chill, chill, chill.
Johnny Tapia? Yeah, Johnny Tapia. Juan and I
will consult after if we're going to allow you.
We don't usually allow that. I don't think he
should be able to update because I don't think
he should be able to update. All right. One,
who is your final pick of the draft? My final
pick is a guy that has victories over several
people on this list, including my guy, Felix
Trinidad, Shane Mosley. And to quote the great
poet, Tony Ayo, I got a left like winky right,
my pinky break, my bank card will end your life.
I'm taking winky right. Great final pick. Great
final pick. Gritty, who are you closing out your
draft with? For this pick, okay, look, the number
two pick in this draft was Sugar Ray Robertson.
J -Rose spoke about how he was 40 -0 before he
took that first L in his prime. I'm going to
go with the raging bull, the guy who beat him
that first time, Jake LaMotta, even though he
got his ass whipped five other times after that.
He was the only guy to beat Sugar Ray Robinson
in his prime. I think they fought six times.
I think he went one in five against Sugar Ray,
so don't hold it against him. But I think he
said something like, I fought Sugar Ray so many
times I got diabetes. I'm going with Jake LaMotta,
man. Yep. In Robinson's first one, 175 fights,
Jake LaMotta's the only one to beat him. Yeah.
Crazy. All right. I guess I'm up. I feel like
I've been put in a position to have to take this
guy. I'm double -checking and triple -checking.
Is Canelo available? Canelo is available. Oh,
he's available. Yeah, I guess I have to take
Canelo. I'm not really excited about it. You
don't have to, but that's your final answer.
I was wondering if he was going to make it. All
right. Canelo has made the top 100. Ezra, who
is your final pick? This is another member of
Black Murder's role. People say that he might
have been the most talented one. He started from
lower weights and moved his way up to get the
bigger fights he fought. He has a win over Charlie
Burley. I'm going to take Holman Williams. He
was already taken. Really? Yeah. Oh, my bad,
my bad. I'll take Pancho Villa then. Thank God.
Did you get that up? I'll take Johnny Tapia.
We won perfect order. I'll take Johnny Tapia.
Famous black murderer role fighter. I didn't
know Holman was taken. All right. J -Roe, your
final pick of the drafts. Number 99 overall.
Okay. Really, I'm going to go with a three -division
champ. One title has featherweight, lightweight,
junior welterweight. He beat Hall of Famers like
Kid Chocolate, Jimmy McClellan, Barney Ross.
Three guys that we will speak before him. Lou
Ambers, Johnny Dundee, Baby Alex Mendy, Bud Taylor.
We're going to go with Tony. Yes, sir. I knew
it. I knew it. I knew it. And you know why I
knew it? Because that was going to be my pick.
I was like, this motherfucker is reading from
my phone right now. He hacked your phone, Matt.
He hacked your phone. Oh, shit. I'm like, no.
So, Matt, who is the final entry in the greatest
boxes of all time draft? Okay. I'm going to keep
it a bean. I'm only doing this for historical
purposes and not because I think he is better
than other people on my list. Okay? You cannot
have greatest fighters list, in my opinion, without
this guy for a lot of reasons. The main reason
is because every fighter, when they're done,
hopes to be recognized by going into the International
Boxing Hall of Fame. And, fun fact, the International
Boxing Hall of Fame, which is in Canastota, New
York, was founded because A fighter from Canastota,
New York, people felt that he needed proper recognition.
So the Hall of Fame was created for this specific
fighter. I am going with the upstate onion farmer
himself, Amin Basio. That's a good one. Good
pick. Great pick to end it off. If you ever need
a Carmen Basile autograph, they're like $10.
I'm fucking with my list, man. My draft list
is not bad, man. I'm going to fix your pick right
now, but I got to undo some of these and then
re -enter them. We're going to edit the draft
board a little bit and then we can start going
through it. TJ, let's work a trade. I'll take
Poncho, you take Diatopia. That's what I was
thinking. I'm sorry about that pick. I don't
know about all of you guys. I'm very happy with
my draft. I think I had a great draft. I'm satisfied
with my draft. I got one reach, but I ain't really
tripping. My worst reach was probably Sonny Liston
and where I had got him at, but when I looked
around him, it wasn't that much of a reach. The
late replacements really threw me off in this
draft. I gotta say. I had a direction I thought
I was going to be able to go. Yeah. TJ and Bobby
did their thing for sure. I liked them until
Bobby had all of the picks that I wanted to lay
around. Hey Bobby, didn't you say you were the
first DJ a little bit? I probably did. All right.
Vivi, I fixed your pick for the ninth round.
All right. Juan, Matt, you guys want to go through
the board here and discuss which picks you guys
liked, which picks you thought had a good draft,
who you thought had a poor draft. We can go through
maybe some of the names that the listeners thought
were left off. A couple names that the listeners
mentioned that I don't remember, that I don't
believe have made it to the list here are going
to be Terry Norris, who I don't think got picked,
Billy Kahn, and then Stanley Ketchel. Those are
from the listeners. I wanted to go Terry Norris,
but I ain't know for sure. Matt, right before
you picked him also, someone was... made the
comment that someone better pick at her Joffrey.
So that was adhered to. That request was adhered
to, Matt. You got that one in. But yeah, no,
go through it. Were there any pigs complained
about? Not that I saw. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah,
yeah. That one. That's the one. In response to
whoever said that Joffrey should have been picked,
the round that Matt picked him was the round
that I was going to take him. Who do you guys
think had the best draft? Me? Myself, of course.
Thank you, guys. Thank you. No, TJ, real shit,
you cannot think you had the best draft. There's
no way. Who are you? Who the fuck are you? Who
the fuck are you? Go ahead, Matt. I will say
this. Respectfully, this is nothing but respect.
I am trying to struggle. I'm struggling between
picking Ty and TJ for the work drive. Ty ran
out of gas at the end. Hold on, y 'all talking
shit about my draft. Y 'all talking shit about
my draft and laughing snicker, right? But every
time I pick somebody, somebody picks my word
set to me. And that's real shit. It was an example.
We're looking at the board right now. T .Y.,
if you're looking at your phone, you can click
on the link in the big board and look at the
whole draft board. Ezra said he ran out of gas.
He's out of gas by round three. What is he, Demetrius
Adrian? I'm not arguing with you. I would say
T .Y.'s draft started really strong. It was Sugar
Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Terrence Crawford,
Joe Frazier, James Toney, Felix Trinidad. Terrence
Crawford in round three is crazy. Nigga took
Marvin Hagler. Fuck is you talking about? Better
Marvin Hagler. Fuck is y 'all talking about?
Actually, you know what? I want. I want. I want.
I want. I want. I want. I want. I want. I want.
I want. I want. I don't give a fuck about that.
It ain't nothing about Earl. Yeah, it ain't nothing
about that. Let's get one to Earl Wayne. His
resume still shitty, bro. Let's cut it out. The
nigga don't have a resume. Earl and Canelo is
his two biggest wins. He has over 40 fights.
That was slug on the list. You don't know boxing,
nigga. Oh, man. What does that have to do with
anything? I just saw Canelo lose against Williams.
Go, nigga. Hey, you saying that Crawford is over
Hagler, so we don't know nothing about that.
Man, listen, he ain't going to beat that nigga.
Interestingly enough, Marvin Hagler has beat
more guys that was drafted than Terrence Crawford
did. Of course. Well, Crawford only beat one
guy that was drafted. He only beat one guy that
was drafted, and he didn't get drafted. They
don't have no fucking resume. J -Ro drafted the
oldest collection of fighters, according to Martin.
Look at these numbers I'm looking at. These are
the average career debut years for each fighter.
T -Y. What is this, Martin? These are the average
career debuts. This is the average year that
the people you've drafted made their career debut.
Yeah, Ty only drafted people he watched on The
Zone. Was my name on that? What was mine? What
was yours? 1966. I googled a list and said, yo,
I'm going to pick Harry Gregg. You never seen
a nigga fight. Shut up. He's seen his opponents
fight, but he beat. Yo, here we go. I like this
great Office of Lyman at 67. That's a great pick.
Hey, man. That's next month. I ain't never seen
Harriet Tubman freeing her slaves, but she still
did it. I did my history. Why is that so funny?
Let me get this off. I bet you we say go to every
pick right and say name five motherfuckers he
fought. Motherfuckers gonna meet real quick.
I don't think there would. I think most of us
would claim that. Start Googling. For who? Start
Googling. Name five motherfuckers they fought.
We're live and we're on a recorded show. Not
right now. We're not doing this right now. What's
wrong with the question? What's wrong with the
question? Because we're going to get too sidetracked.
Yeah, we're not doing this. We're staying on
track. We're staying on track. If you guys want
to do another show, if you guys want to have
another conversation about after the draft, after
this, we can start another space, but we got
to finish covering the draft. So, one, Matt,
is there anything else you guys would like to
talk about before we close this and then we can
start another space to keep going on? I want
to know who you guys thought should have been
drafted that wasn't drafted. When TJ said, you
know where I'm going with the last pick, I really
thought he was going to take Shakur Stevenson.
I didn't think he was going to make a joke Ryan
Carl pick. Y 'all should have known I was going
Ryan Carl. I don't know which half. I really
thought he was going to pick Shakur. I'm tired
of y 'all niggas, man. What was the worst pick?
The worst pick was almost Ryan Carl. No, I know.
Besides that. Is it Rocky Marciano at 17? Juan
Manuel Marquez. Juan Manuel Marquez. 44th overall.
So you guys are saying... I don't think Marquez
was bad. Who took Rocky at 17? Gray. I think
it's Rocky. But Gray did that for the culture.
Oh, that's retarded. I was also surprised because
when I heard guys like Marquez and stuff going,
I was surprised that Timothy Bradley did not
get drafted. That's a good one. I was between
Winky Wright, Bradley, and Rafael Marquez. He
was 89 in my draft board. Is Rocky Marciano the
Scott Steiner pick of the draft? No. Second.
Second round. Julio over Floyd. Those are the
guys that maybe should have been drafted. I was
thinking about them when I took Carbajal is Carlos
Ortiz and Nino Benvenuti. What number did Floyd
go? 10. Too high. Yeah, we know you're a hater,
J -Ro. Oh, man. There aren't many names. that
weren't picked that I thought should, should
have been. I like my Vandoly. Hopkins. I liked
Hopkins in the second and I liked Holyfield in
the third. I thought those were both two good
picks. I followed the Mike McCallum one underdog.
Wait, hold on. I don't think TJ's draft was as
bad as Ty's, to be honest. Like, now that I'm
looking at it. How am I a draft? Who I drafted
that was trash? You trying to pick on my draft?
It's not about trash. It's about who's on the
board. Man, I'm not trying to hear y 'all niggas
talk y 'all bullshit. Hold on, J -Ro. J -Ro.
Did the first round go the way you predicted
it was going to go? I got a question. Hold on.
No. No, because we had a question. Can I ask
you a question, J -Ro? I'm sorry. Can I ask you
a question, J -Ro? Real shit. And if I'm wrong,
J -Bro, grind me the fuck up. I pick Nassim Ahmed.
J -Bro, I'm wrong, J -Bro, I'm wrong. I pick
Nassim Ahmed, J -Bro. He pick Winky Wright. What's
the difference? I mean, I didn't really like
the Winky pick either. No, but like, so, so,
so, so, so, if you're saying Winky Wright are
better than Nassim Ahmed, he that much better
than Nassim Ahmed? He got better ones, though.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Wake You Right is not better than I Seen My Man.
Yeah, I don't think so either. Yeah, I mean,
they're right there, man. They're right there.
Buffalo's laughing at my pick. Wake You Right,
that's a great pick. I Seen My Man, lost to one
muscle, then lost to Basha. That's a bad pick,
Ty. Fuck out my face. How many people on the
list at I'm At Beat? Nigga, I Seen You Right
lose a lot. How many people on the list at I'm
At Beat? Hey, you know what's funny? How many
people on the list at I'm At Beat? Ty has more
passion defending his list than he did making
his pick. That's a great pick. Fuck out of here.
You know what? I thought Winnie Pepp was a bad
pick where he was chosen. Yes. Where would you
guys project him to go? What would be a better
projection for him? Maybe six rounds. Really?
Okay. What round did he get drafted in? He got
drafted in second. I'm going to be honest with
you, Ezra. I think your third and fourth round
picks are better. I had him like a fifth round
deal. And I also had Sandy Sadler above him,
by the way. Who whooped his ass, by the way.
Yeah, I had Sandy Sadler above him. I thought
Sandy Sadler was going to be the first. I was
so excited to get Sandy Sadler. Yeah, the little
hip -hop thing. Yeah, man. I was like, let's
go. Honestly, I can't believe Pernod Whitaker
fell to me. I was expecting Pernod to go in the
first round. That's all I was thinking. Yeah,
I guess that's all I was thinking. Yeah. I was
like, wow. I had Whitaker hired in Chavez. Yeah.
Chavez in the first round is egregious. Yeah,
I wouldn't have went Chavez in the first round.
What do you guys think was the best pick of the
second half of the draft? Because the first half
is obviously going to have the best names. What
do you think was the best value or best person
that fell to someone after round five? Mickey
Walker. Yeah, Mickey Walker was fucking great.
I don't know. If somebody picked Chavez in the
first, he's one of the Mexican goats. Do you
think he's better than Whitaker? No, because
that's what I was going with. You could have
went with him. Yeah. That was my first pick.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you know
what? That's fine with me. You know what I'm
saying? It went in the end of the second. The
last pick of the second. I thought you were taking
Roy Jones, TJ. When did I say that? That would
have been a worse pick than Chavez. I never said
that. Roy Jones better than Chavez. Roy Jones
better than Chavez. I don't think he's greater
than Chavez. I don't know if he's greater than
Chavez. I ain't gonna care. I'll take Roy Jones
over Chavez any day. I ain't mad. I thought you
said I said that. No, I ain't too mad at that
for real though. I thought somebody said Whitaker.
I don't know what the fuck. That's what I was
going to go with. I was like, oh, man. Hey, but
hold on. If you have the board up, how do you
get lost in the first round? Because I wasn't
looking at this shit. At first, I was kind of
like doing some shit and then locked in because
I knew I was at the end. Since you asked all
them fucking questions, white man, shut the fuck
up. You're not allowed to ask no questions because
you're white. No, TJ. This is the views of TJ
and TJ. This has been another edition that everyone
has an opinion. It's great. Hey, I will say this
though, J -Ro. Lefty said he told you guys specifically
to DM him. When it was his pick. And we told
him specifically to get the fuck in the draft.
Yeah, he said nobody DM'd him. And you guys replaced
him with Bobby. Yeah, I told him we replaced
him. Hold on. I also want to add Lefty's other
message that Tut's probably leaving out. I had
chat GPT ready to make my picks. Yeah. He didn't
say that. Hey, I didn't want to put that on the
recording. I didn't want to say that on the recording,
but he did say that too. I picked nine of my
top 25 guys on the board. Yeah, it's funny to
me, but I know that Ezra was just using his chat
GPT pick. And then when he saw some of the guys
that he liked getting taken, he was like, fuck
it, let me just pick my favorite guys. Yo, that's
not true. That's not true. I will say this. I
think what you said about De La Hoya and Olivares
was correct. If he had swapped those two picks,
they would be in the right spots. If he had swapped
those two picks, the De La Hoya pick would have
been bad. No, no, but here's the thing. No, no,
but here's the thing. No, no, but here's the
thing. I had to change the strategy because the
way people were picking, I said, shit, De La
Hoya might not be here. I knew Olivares might
be there. Did you need De La Hoya on your team?
Or could you just have the best boxers? Yeah,
but I wanted De La Hoya. No, I wanted De La Hoya.
Hold on, J -Roy. I got a question. Why is De
La Hoya in the fifth round a bad pick? Because
he's not a fifth round guy. De La Hoya could
be a late round pick. Yeah, that's a... What
round did Tito get drafted? Oscar got taken 43rd
overall and Felix got taken 54th. Great pick
by Ty. Thank you. I picked the real greatest
Puerto Rican and then two people picked a Puerto
Rican boxer after me and said they're also the
greatest. There were 11 picks between Oscar and
Tito. Nobody picked Cotto. No, no one picked
Cotto. No one picked Carlos Ortiz, who my grandfather
used to tell me that was the great Puerto Rican.
My grandfather, my dad loves him. Yeah, that's
what I said though. Hey, J -Ro, I fucked up J
-Ro. I was on the phone asleep. I should have
said my man Mark Two Sharp Johnson. Two Sharp?
Yeah, Two Sharp. I was surprised Bobby didn't
pick Two Sharp. Yeah, I thought about that too.
Did you take North Carolina legend Sugar Ray
Leonard? No, I took him before me. What the fuck
you talking about, nigga? And I took Duran. Not
a lot of pioneers were taken in this draft. No.
For what? What? That's crazy. Because you know
what? I said before the draft I wasn't drafting
any white guys, and I didn't draft any white
guys. You mean pioneers like... Hold on, hold
on, hold on. You and Ezra, three of y 'all woke.
Y 'all ain't woke. It was funny. I knew Ty was
going to pick Blade. Ty was going to go HBO Boxing.
Go full HBO Boxing. What the fuck they talking
about? Ty went full HBO Boxing. I was like, yeah,
Ty. We're the big boys playing. QE. Yeah. How
was my mock draft? You said you had saved it.
Give me a second. I got to find the picture of
it. Juan, I have a question for you. TJ and Bobby.
Would you say, Ezra? I have a question for you.
What do you think was the worst draft? Like all
around picks and everything you thought so far,
this was the worst draft that you've had so far.
Probably the actor's draft. The actor's one?
Okay, all right. Yeah, Julia Roberts. Yeah, Julia
Roberts, Diane Keaton. Angelina Jolie. Yeah.
Yeah, come on. What the fuck is going on? Didn't
I drive LeBron in the basketball league, Bobby?
Yes, sir. I see. I foreseen it coming. Yeah.
I like to talk to you. You go on. You join the
team where a nigga talking shit about your son.
And then J -Roll, he joined a team where the
star said, that'll never be your team. This is
a boxing draft conversation. Thank you, thank
you. In boxing terms, Ezra, that's like Bernard
knocking out Oscar and then they go and do business
together. Or is it like when Delahoya and Floyd
fought and Floyd Sr. said Delahoya won? Yo, Ezra,
you know which one was your best pick, Ezra?
Which one? Gene Tunney. Bro, I was like, there's
no way he's still here on the board. There's
no way. Just for the value alone. Yeah, the value
is great on that pick. Who took Triple G? Nobody.
Okay. Who took Roy Jones? Me. In the first round?
I can't remember. J -Ro, you got seven of the
pitch right. Can somebody tell me the top ten?
Yeah, I got it for you right here. Hey, Tut,
you're in the space. Tut, look at the big board
and click on the link. Oh, no. Okay, I'll see
it on top. Yeah, that's the whole draft board.
Somebody recap it for the listeners. Yeah, I
got it. The first round recap for the listeners
went Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry
Armstrong, Archie Moore, Joe Lewis, Jack Johnson
to Juan, T .Y. took Sugar Ray Leonard, V .V.
picked Sam Langford, T .J. with Julio Cesar Chavez,
and Bobby with Floyd Mayweather Jr. That was
the first 10 picks. J -Ro, you went 7 for 10.
Bobby and TJ kind of... No, you got Bobby's pick
right. What did Bobby get? Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Floyd Mayweather, that's right. You said that
Lefty was going to get Floyd. That's right. This
was your prediction for the first round. It was
Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong. You
said Ezard Charles would go for instead of Archie
Moore. Joe Lewis, Willie Pepp, Sugar Ray Leonard,
Sam Langford, Duran, Floyd Mayweather. I gotta
say, Jack Johnson that early is egregious. Yeah,
yeah, that's not a... Respectfully. Do we get
another top five heavyweight of all time? Hey
man, that arrow? The street you had to go through,
that matters to me. I got you. Yeah. Now let
me ask you a question, J -Roll. Yeah. Do you
look at these Neanderthals early, do you look
at these guys the same way you look at Babe Ruth?
Well, not... Yes. Some of them, yes. Like Jack
Dempsey. I look at Jack Dempsey like that. I
would never look at Jack Dempsey. Ever. But Harry
Webb... Harry Graffado, man. Dempsey went in
the sixth round, so outside of the top 50. Yeah,
yeah. You know what? That's fine. To me, you
can draft Babe Ruth in the whatever, but I would
never draft them like that because I don't know
how that elite, if you don't go against the best,
how can you be that elite? Names that went before
Jack Dempsey in the sixth round were Cocoa Kid,
Trinidad, Gomez, Pryor, and Kid Chocolate. But
in the sixth round, I think Jack Dempsey's okay.
First million dollar gate ever. Trinidad over
Jack Dempsey, huh? Yeah, Trinidad went two picks
before Dempsey. I don't know if Trinidad's the
greatest Puerto Rican of all time, but I know
he's the most beloved Puerto Rican of all time.
Matt's comment on those three picks was hilarious.
Now, no love for Sixto Escobar, Juan. Nah. Puerto
Rican pioneer. Yeah, why? I was the only one
they could bash him? You're Puerto Rican. Just
don't know enough about him. Every time we talk
about an old black fighter, he would ask me for
my opinion. I assume it's because I am black.
Hey, somebody mentioned the old white fighter.
He did not ask me about anything. They mentioned
the old black fighter. He was like, hey, Matt,
anything else on this guy? I was like, hey, you
know what? I guess so, God damn it. Oh, man.
Now, the round that Juan picked Charles Burley,
that was who was going to be my pick. I was going
to pick Charles Burley that round. That was the
fourth round, it looks like. Yeah. We left a
lot of meat on the bone. Every draft nigga say
this. We left a lot of meat on the bone. I already
did. Some people are going to get left out of
this one for sure. Daryl, who are your next three
guys that you think should have been drafted?
Well, we can go with a call side Galaxy. We wanted
to go with a pioneer, George Dixon. We had a
Packy McFarlane. That probably would be the top
three. Galaxy and Dixon were the next two names
on the list that I had. What about somebody like
George Benton? One of the first black champions.
George Benton, who was an all -time great. The
first? Yep. George Benton, the shoulder roll.
Yeah. What round did Foreman go? Second? George
Foreman went in the second round. Pick 15. I
was so upset at that. I thought for sure I was
going to get... the Ali Foreman stack. You know
what? I was going to be a second round pick.
I said, wow, man. I thought, I was like, Gritty
and Juan are going heavyweight. So that's going
to fuck up. Yeah. Big time. Although I can assure
you, I was not going to take one clue with that
early. Did he go second round too? Yes, sir.
Second round, number one pick in the second round.
That's a great way to go. He's the top five heavyweight
of all time. Top five. But I thought Foreman
was greater and both were greater. I got both
of them. I saw Foreman shit the bed against Ali.
Hey, you know what, Matt? Matt did the whole
thing about Ali being the best fighter because
he's a heavyweight, and Juan took most of the
heavyweights. Yeah. Well, he was in front of
me coming on the back end. Hey, yo. I wasn't
there. That wasn't necessary, man. That wasn't
necessary. When was it time to even use a combination
of words? I know a lot. That sounded like some
humor. I thought I was the human centipede. Hey,
Bob. Ty told J -Ro, and if I'm wrong, you can
grind me the fuck up. I said, hey, yo. What kind
of bet is that? Yeah, come on. You sound like
a lose -lose situation to me. Who even used some
combination of words? That motherfucker said,
turn my ass into mincemeat. That's true. Yo,
who picked Nicky Walker? What'd he say, man?
That was one of the few names that I didn't have
on my list. I had to manually type that one in.
And Gritty also went Inouye, right? He also picked
out Inouye? Yeah, Inouye. Oh, that's way too
high. Oh, man. I disagree. Well, no, because
Crawford went second round, right? Yes. Crawford
went third round. That's insane. I knew it was
going to happen, but I was like, damn. Crawford
over Oscar is crazy. No, that's not crazy. Yes,
it is. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Oscar has better
wins. J -Ro, what's your opinion on that comparison?
I'm sorry, Crawford over Frazier. Oscar gets
to face the boxing. And Oren, too. He carried
boxing, too. Oscar. He helped carry boxing for
a minute. J -Ro, do you think Oscar should have
been taken over Terrence? Terrence went up two
weight classes to beat up the number one guy.
Oscar let a guy come up two weight classes to
whoop his ass. That's one fight, buddy. I'm just
saying, bro. That's one fight, buddy. I'll have
Crawford over Oscar. He was, Crawford was the
roster my draft for. If you're going to put Crawford,
I'm just going to put Crawford over Chavez. Wait,
what was it? In Oscar's fifth weight class, he
got a gift and he got his ass kicked. And when
Crawford did it, I mean, he beat the shit out
of Canelo. I had Crawford as a third round pick
on my draft. So Crawford should be over Chavez.
We just got to forget that Canelo does. been
looking bad in all these fucking fights. Yeah,
I should have been picking that nigga then. Who
picked him? Gray. Gray picked him in the last
round. Last round. I was talking about that fight.
I said, who picked him to win? I didn't pick
him to win. Yeah, I picked him. I just saw the
nigga lose the way he was going to score. He
wasn't supposed to do that shit. I'm going to
pick every opponent that nigga fight. He's been
defeated at size. That nigga can't fight Amir
Khan right now, and I'm going to pick. Hold on.
It's a great accomplishment, but let's come on
now. Is there anything on the draft that we want
to cover here? I think we're good. I'll say this.
I do like that the Blackmore's role was well
represented in this draft. Those group of fighters
get forgotten a lot because they never won a
world title. And so it's hard to kind of gauge
where they rank all the time. They don't fall
for a world title. But they were great fighters
of their era. Really, really great fighters.
They were so well represented. I just kind of
take one later that was already drafted. Man,
I'm very glad Lorde wasn't here. Let me tell
you, Lorde would have went on a raid with the
Canelo pick, by the way. I rate. And the man.
Where'd Manny go? 23rd. Hey, that Pacquiao pick
pissed me off too. Even Canelo going 90 -something
would have sent him off. I really wish I would
have took Chalky Wright. Oh, man. It was a couple
guys I wanted to pick, man. Chalky Wright. I
don't think anyone took BoJack, did they? No.
Damn, damn, damn. All right. Matt, do you have
anything to add or do you want to close out the
show? I ain't got nothing for y 'all people.
I'm done. Will there be a post -fight? We're
going to do a pre -fight first. Then we're going
to do a post -fight. Hey, when is Joshua's in?
Joshua's is fighting right now. Yeah, that card's
on right now. All right, Matt, close out the
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