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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good

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night, wherever you are in the world. This is

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Brunch Boxing. I'm your host, Matt. Big day today.

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Shakur Stevenson went to Zufa. DBC went to DAZN.

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Shakur Stevenson has his hit list. Very interesting

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names on that. We're going to talk all about

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it, but first, I want to introduce the host of

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Brunch Boxing, the master of the walk and talk.

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the master of the sit and spit, the John Madden

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of boxing, reporting from Parks Unknown, my guy

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Ezra Boxing. Where did your car adventure take

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you today? I parked right here on the side of

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the road. They said no parking between 6 a .m.

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to 8 a .m. I said, perfect. The show starts at

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8. So I'm in a fantastic spot. I got shade, got

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some sunlight. I got a phone holder that works.

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I mean, you couldn't get started to a better

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day. Something in the air today just feels special.

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And I know there's not much boxing to watch today,

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but there's moves making. The boxing world, the

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boxing business is in motion. Are you on Figueroa?

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No, not Figueroa. Not today. Okay, just checking,

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just checking. And also, we have behind on the

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ones and twos. The master mariner himself, the

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producer of Bunch Boxing, Huey P. What's going

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on, Huey? Doing good, doing good, man. It's a

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hot day out here in Minnesota, but getting ready

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to watch some World Cup. We don't have any boxing

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today, but I'm sure you guys got a lot to talk

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about still. Is Mike with us today? Mike is not

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with us today. Damn, he really feel like there's

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no boxing. He said there's nothing going on.

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I ain't got shit to talk about. Home team has

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no games today, Mike. Home team has no games.

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But listen, we got to pop the trunk today when

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it comes to boxing because there's a lot of things

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to talk about, but we're going to do it more

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free flow style because we got to get back to

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the Shakur Stevenson thing, man. So we got some

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more information about the Shakur Stevenson deal

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with Zupa Voxen. According to Sports Illustrated's

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Chris Mannix, Shakur Stevenson is going to be

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making... A minimum of eight figures per fight

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with Zufa Boxing. Does that change anything for

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you, Ezra? No, I mean, I knew he was going to

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get paid fat for the thing. I knew that's why

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he went there. You know what I mean? I knew he

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was going to get paid fat. So that wasn't ever

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the part that I was worried about for him. I'm

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sorry. Are we interrupting your breakfast? No,

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I thought, did you hear me? I thought you were

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going to give us more and then you just - Ezra,

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I've never heard you be so concise. Yeah, no,

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I thought there was more reporting by Chris Maddox.

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But like I said, I never worried about the money.

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I never thought, oh, he's taking a pay cut to

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go to Zufa. I knew that wasn't the thing. The

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fighters right now have the leverage, right?

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And I knew that there were no real pay cuts right

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now. Right now, Zufa's overpaying. That's pretty

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obvious. We've seen that with Conor Bannon. We've

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seen that with Shakur. They're overpaying to

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get the guys to add legitimacy to their brand.

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That's what this is. And, you know, you could

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technically make a case that they might have

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the best fighter in the world. You could make

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that case. And he said that despite Shakur's

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proclamations, Ronald Valenzuela is 100 % on

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the list of fighters that Shakur might fight

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next. Of course. I mean, I don't understand people

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going so like, oh, no, that's not going to happen.

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Why? He's on the same brand as the guy. Like,

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why would that not happen? Yeah, of course. I

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would imagine that. The more interesting thing

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is, could he get the other fights? Is those still

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an option to him? Are they going to be able to

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turn those around and make those fights? But

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I definitely always considered Ryo as an option.

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Well, let's talk about those other fights. Because

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Shakur Stevenson did an interview with Raheem

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Palmer, a .k .a. Rosh Adamas, of the Ringer Gambling

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Show, and he made himself a hit list of fighters

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that he claims he wants to fight next. Do you

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want that list? Yes, let's hear it. All right,

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so first name mentioned, top of the list, Javante

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Tank Davis. Give me your confidence, like we

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do with our picks, on how confident are you that

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Shakur could get that fight? I'm at a one. And

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I don't even necessarily think that's because

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Shakur's with Zufa. That's not why I would feel

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lack of confidence. I just don't know how confident

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I am that Tang gets in the ring anytime soon.

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Okay. The next name on the list, Lord Devin DeBohaney.

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My confidence level for that is a three. I do

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think that Haney will probably end up with Zufa.

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I do think that Shakur is going to have to probably

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go for these big fights. So I think that there's

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a way that that fight could be made. And I don't

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see a lot of options for Haney right now because

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he's turned down options and it didn't pan out

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for him. So I feel like there's some confidence

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in that fight getting made. Okay, third name

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on the list, Gary Antoine Russell. I think that's

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a five. That could get made easy. That could

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get made easy. It's just going to cost a certain

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dollar amount to get that made. But I think that's

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a five. There shouldn't be no problem getting

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that fight made. And then the last name on the

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list was The Reaper Lamont Rose Jr. Another five,

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especially Lamont gets his win over Cepeda. Why

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not? Why wouldn't they make that fight? And we

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see Lamont go to 140 already, so he can go back

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again. I'm not confident that any of these fights

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happen. I think we're more likely to get Ryo

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next. With Tank, I'm at a one. With Devin, I'm

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at a one. Because Devin and Shakur could have

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fought. Yeah, that's true. Like, they could have

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fought. They could have fought for it, yeah.

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Yeah, they could have fought. So... What about

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the other two fights? With Gary Antoine, I don't

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think so. Why? It doesn't make any sense. For

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who? For Gary Antoine. Oh, come on. If the money's

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right, it's all about money, right? At that point,

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like... Yeah, but supposedly, he's going to be

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unifying with the winner of Pueo versus Smith.

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So who knows? I'm just saying though, if the

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money's right, you can get Gary Antoine. If the

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money's right, you can get Roach. It gets complicated

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and it gets hard when you have other stars that

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could probably maneuver themselves. I don't think

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that that's complicated to make it a Gary Antoine

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wrestling thing. We do have a comment from our

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guy Sibby and the listeners saying the way Gary

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trying to take up a Shakur and fight Oshaki,

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I wouldn't be so high on that happening. That's

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funny. Now, Conspicuous by his absence, one name

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from the list, O'Shanique Foster was not on the

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list. Now, Shakur Stevenson said, hey, you go

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beat my doja, Raymond Ford, then you can fight

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me, then we'll talk. Yep. Shakur got in the ring

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calling O'Shanique Foster all types of bitch

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-ass niggas. I'm going to fuck you up. I'm going

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to do this. I'm going to do that. Fuck you, you

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a bitch, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now

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he's not fighting him. What gives? I don't know.

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I don't get it. I think that that fight kind

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of made a lot of sense, especially if you're

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just recording, you're just like, I need maybe

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like a fight in between before I get like a mega

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fight. I think that fight made sense. It had

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some buzz to it. It had some real heat to it.

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And you're catching Oshaki off of when he's hot.

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So I don't get why that's not an option. I really

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don't. That confuses me. But maybe Shakur's not

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going back down on 135. I don't want to say scared,

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but is he reluctant to fight with Shaki Foster?

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Because 130 had a chance to fight. Didn't happen.

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Now they have a chance to fight again. And it

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doesn't look like Shakur's interested in making

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the fight. Maybe he just doesn't. Maybe it's

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just that. Maybe it's just not a big enough fight

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for him, I guess you might feel like. I don't

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know. I don't know. Maybe it's just not a big

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enough fight. And maybe the weight things are

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just too drastic, different. It can't even happen.

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But I think that why even play the whole game

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of getting in the ring and doing all that? Because

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to me, it seemed like you were trying to see

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if you could get buzz on this fight. And it had

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some buzz. And I think that people... If you

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made this, I think people will be some interest

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in it. I think the Oshaki right now, you're getting

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him at, to me, his most popular, too. I think

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he has some, like, notoriety to him. So I think

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that fight should be able to be made. And I think

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it should be something that they should be interested

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in. Yeah, I don't get why he's not interested.

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But Oshaki Foster did respond to Shakur leaving

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him out on the hit list. Here's his response.

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From Oshaki Foster, dude scared of me. He a lame

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goofy, for real. Everybody see it. The biggest

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duck in boxing. I'ma keep spinning on his besties

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till he trapped in the corner. He can't hide

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forever. How many more besties could Oshaki Foster

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legitimately fight? I think he took out the one

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that was possible. He already beat Ray Ford.

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Yeah. Like, the other ones are higher weights.

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He could fight Kishon? No, because Kishon's 147.

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Oh, yeah, that's right. He moved out of 140 already.

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That's about it. I don't think there's any more

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besties for him to go through. I don't think

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he should have to. You know, you can't treat

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Shakur like a Pokemon gym leader, you know what

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I mean? You should have to go through four people

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to get to you. All right. We do have someone

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joining the show right now. The man known as

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the Mexican Al Heyman, the CEO of Brunch Boxing.

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Mike, how are you doing today? I'm excited to

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join the show. All right, man. Just hearing it,

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I imagine in high school, I'm like, no, I'm not

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going to fight you unless you fight my friend

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first. You know what? That's not a bad strategy

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to have. If you could be like the pack leader

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and be like, hey, if anyone ever has beef with

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me, they're going to have to go through like

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three of you first. You know what? It's not a

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bad way to run it in high school, I gotta tell

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you. That's not a bad way to run it. A couple

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comments from the listeners. Sibby again saying,

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I feel like Shakur killed Buzz of a potential

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Shakur versus Foster fight. Also, as it doesn't

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have to happen at 135 since Foster said he would

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fight him at 140. And then Talk Trends is saying

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he should beat Lamont to eliminate Shakur as

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a fight for him. Well, how many people do we

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want? I was talking Foster to B before he gets

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Shakur. Yeah, I don't get it. I'm very confused.

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But you know what though is funny? It's not even

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with the Shakur thing. Forget the Shakur thing.

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If Lamont wins and O'Shaughnessy goes to fight

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him, that's a very good fight. That's actually

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a really, really good fight. And I wouldn't mind

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that. It looks like they reported that maybe

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that they're talking Foster versus Navarrete.

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Foster's in a good spot. He's in a really good

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spot right now. Because that Navarrete fight

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will be an excellent fight. They can make that

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as well. So he's in a really good spot. I don't

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get Shakur letting that buzz die on that fight.

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I just don't get it, Ezra. As a person, you tell

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me, hey, if you take care of this, this will

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happen. And I go do that, and you're like, hold

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on. Maybe I lied. Yeah, exactly. You cannot say,

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if you beat this guy, I'll fight you. And then

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say, you know what, never mind, I'm never going

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to bring you up again. That for sure could not

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happen. The first thing should not happen, but

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for sure the second thing shouldn't happen. Nah,

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but he did too well. That's the thing you guys

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are missing. I guess so. What else we got? Y

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'all didn't hear me fall, right? You fell? My

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phone fell. No, no, we didn't hear anything.

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Makes me think that you fell. We don't hear earthquakes

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out here and they say they happen, right? I believe

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Matt, because he sounds real far away from his

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phone right now, which makes it sound like the

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phone's on the ground and he's standing up. Or

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they're both laying down and the phone is a distance

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away from them. But I can't see where it's at

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right now. What are you talking about? I gotta

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tell you right now, you're a mess. But imagine

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if Matt did fall. Like, imagine the poor bottom

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tenant. He must have thought that the whole damn

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thing was coming down. Hey, man, we ain't got

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to be rude. All right, what else we got? Yeah,

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what else we got? This guy can't find his phone.

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Did he not give us a rundown? No. Oh, Jesus.

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Oh, Jesus. We're doing it, Ezra. What did you

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always say? We're doing it live. Yeah, we're

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doing it live. Well, then, you know what? While

00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:35.860
we're here on the topic, might as well talk it.

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Okay, so Zufa has Shakur. They basically put

00:13:41.049 --> 00:13:43.230
him through the machine right as soon as he signs

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on ESPN. He's doing Shannon Sharp. He's doing

00:13:46.149 --> 00:13:48.529
everything. Then they have the next day to do

00:13:48.529 --> 00:13:51.289
the Conor McGregor ceremonial weigh -in, and

00:13:51.289 --> 00:13:53.970
they have him center stage. They have Ryan there.

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They have Ben there. I mean, they are putting

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a full force of getting these guys. front and

00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:02.820
center on all their events. You know, they're

00:14:02.820 --> 00:14:04.159
going to do that. I imagine you'll see Shakur

00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:07.200
on WWE events soon. Front row, Shakur, Stevenson,

00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:08.559
they're going to do the whole picture and everything.

00:14:08.659 --> 00:14:10.240
I mean, they're going to do it all. They're really

00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.899
doing it up. Now, it could make it more obvious,

00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:15.200
right? I think we all know that Ben and Ryan

00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:16.960
is going to be made. Ben and Ryan is going to

00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:21.600
be announced soon. Do you guys see Ryan Garcia

00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:24.879
as a future Zufa signing? Because it looks to

00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.470
me like that's pretty obvious. When they're handing

00:14:28.470 --> 00:14:30.789
out checks like that, Ezra, who wouldn't sign?

00:14:33.990 --> 00:14:38.309
Okay, now, Mike, when you say it like that, right?

00:14:38.590 --> 00:14:41.629
Now, okay, but if they're handing out checks

00:14:41.629 --> 00:14:44.230
like that, who wouldn't sign is really the point,

00:14:44.289 --> 00:14:47.629
though, right? So how many fighters do you think

00:14:47.629 --> 00:14:50.610
are going to go and soon to Zufa? Do you think

00:14:50.610 --> 00:14:52.110
that there's going to be a big wave of guys,

00:14:52.210 --> 00:14:56.710
superstars, that go to Zufa? Let's just say they

00:14:56.710 --> 00:14:58.649
got a billion dollars to spend on fighters or

00:14:58.649 --> 00:15:02.070
whatever. Okay. I mean, as much as fighters,

00:15:02.129 --> 00:15:03.269
if they can spend that money, that's as much

00:15:03.269 --> 00:15:07.029
as fighters are going to go. Well, that's what

00:15:07.029 --> 00:15:09.649
I've got to tell you. That's a little bit worrisome

00:15:09.649 --> 00:15:11.590
for everybody else. Because the problem is what

00:15:11.590 --> 00:15:13.110
everyone else is trying to do this is they didn't

00:15:13.110 --> 00:15:15.850
have, I don't think, could have been maintaining.

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I think these guys could maintain it for a little

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bit. So I do think if they will not offer like

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this, and I do think that these fighters. I'll

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tell you one thing. The one thing I see about

00:15:27.139 --> 00:15:30.500
fighters, if they feel like a brand's huge, and

00:15:30.500 --> 00:15:34.899
those fighters see the Zufa as UFC, they see

00:15:34.899 --> 00:15:37.700
it as that. They see it as UFC. This is this

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brand and everything. I think they like stuff

00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:43.259
like that. I think that they like it that this

00:15:43.259 --> 00:15:45.179
thing will put them on the WWE. They'll put it

00:15:45.179 --> 00:15:48.360
on the UFC. I think they eat that up. That's

00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:50.440
your question. Is Zufa going to go in that Goyard

00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.490
bag? In the what? That Goyard bag. Are you still

00:15:54.490 --> 00:15:56.049
talking from like 20 feet away from your phone?

00:15:56.450 --> 00:15:59.570
I'm not. No, you can hear much more clearly now.

00:16:02.029 --> 00:16:05.049
I didn't hear what he said. I don't know what

00:16:05.049 --> 00:16:11.110
that is. Maybe that is it, actually. I really

00:16:11.110 --> 00:16:14.950
don't hear as clear, but I also don't understand

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what that is. Ezra, do you not know what Goyard

00:16:17.110 --> 00:16:21.090
is? No, what is Goyard? Oh, man. Goyard. Oh,

00:16:21.090 --> 00:16:25.029
man. Spin that shit. Spin that shit. You don't

00:16:25.029 --> 00:16:28.830
know what Goyard is? It's a luxury brand. How

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many times can I say I don't know what something

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is for you guys to understand I don't know what

00:16:32.789 --> 00:16:34.509
it is? I don't understand. Why do I have to do

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this five times? People being incredulous that

00:16:38.769 --> 00:16:40.990
you don't know something. Okay, explain what

00:16:40.990 --> 00:16:45.889
incredulous means. Flabbergasted. We're going

00:16:45.889 --> 00:16:51.440
to be here all day. Find a word that he knows.

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Okay, what is the brand? Tell me, what is this?

00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:04.099
But it's based off of that song that's real hot

00:17:04.099 --> 00:17:06.720
right now for the summer. Wait, wait, wait, hold

00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:10.180
on. There's a song that's real hot for the summer.

00:17:10.500 --> 00:17:20.759
Yeah. Just to flip it, pop some tags. Girl, go

00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:23.839
in that courtyard bag. Spin that shit. There's

00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:26.619
no way this is a real song. Spin that shit. Spin

00:17:26.619 --> 00:17:30.400
that shit. It is. It really is. It's the song

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of the summer. Are you kidding? That song sounds

00:17:32.420 --> 00:17:36.119
like it sucks. Now, it could be the way you're

00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:37.900
doing it. That song sounds like it's horrible.

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Could someone spell Goyard for me? Because I'm

00:17:41.660 --> 00:17:45.240
going really - G -O -Y -A -R -D. Oh, that's exactly

00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:46.619
what I thought. Okay, I said there's no way to

00:17:46.619 --> 00:17:50.740
spell that. Yeah, absolutely. And this is a well

00:17:50.740 --> 00:17:53.319
-known brand. This is like with Gucci and all

00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:55.519
those high -end brands. It's on a popular song

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right now. Really? Yeah. Hey, listen, if your

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wife - And you don't buy your wife nothing like

00:18:02.259 --> 00:18:05.279
that? The only thing I know about Go is like

00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:07.380
a Go -Gurt. That's about the only thing that

00:18:07.380 --> 00:18:13.420
sounds so much similar to that. Man. That's a

00:18:13.420 --> 00:18:16.200
damn shame. But yeah, anyway. Hold on, hold on.

00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:18.220
Before we go, who sings this song? So I can look

00:18:18.220 --> 00:18:21.700
it up later. Young Miami. They're not real people.

00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:24.000
They're not real people. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

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We've talked about this a whole bunch of times

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already. We're going to have to have a conversation

00:18:28.500 --> 00:18:31.640
on the space about Ezra's cultural blind spots.

00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:36.339
Just name themselves after where they're at,

00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.339
like Flo Rida, Young Miami. Those are not good

00:18:39.339 --> 00:18:43.259
names. These are not creative names. So you don't

00:18:43.259 --> 00:18:46.299
go Young Miami for the city girls? You're making

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ups up. That's not a real thing. So you don't

00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:51.180
know if act right, you can get smack right? Come

00:18:51.180 --> 00:18:53.119
on, man. Bro, no. You don't work your back, you

00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.059
don't fuck about a nigga. Stripes on the ass,

00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:57.259
don't even call the pussy singer. I've never

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heard anything. My God. Wait, is this a woman

00:19:00.259 --> 00:19:04.299
or a man? A woman. So Young Miami is a woman.

00:19:04.539 --> 00:19:08.599
Yes. She used to date - She's part of the City

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Girls. She used to date P Diddy. Yep. Okay, Young

00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:15.859
Miami is a part of the City Girls. Not the, yeah.

00:19:15.980 --> 00:19:18.500
Which is another - No, no, the City Girls are

00:19:18.500 --> 00:19:21.579
done. Okay, now the City Girls, what were their

00:19:21.579 --> 00:19:25.799
names, all their names? JT and Young Miami. So

00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:27.859
City Girls is only literally two girls. Yeah.

00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:35.650
Outcast is two people. Okay. It sounds like more,

00:19:35.789 --> 00:19:38.029
right? Okay, now JT, what does that stand for?

00:19:39.529 --> 00:19:43.250
I don't know. All right. We might have to take

00:19:43.250 --> 00:19:44.829
that one back to the spaces because I think there's

00:19:44.829 --> 00:19:46.670
someone in the spaces that knows them personally.

00:19:47.630 --> 00:19:52.009
Okay, all right. Even more bizarre. Now JT and

00:19:52.009 --> 00:19:56.410
Young Miami broke up. Yes. Breaking up city girls.

00:19:56.809 --> 00:20:00.000
Yes. Young Miami came out, and she was dating

00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.980
Diddy, which, so she has to be, like, what age?

00:20:03.140 --> 00:20:06.460
Yeah, 20s. Oh, man, this guy, lock this guy up.

00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:09.460
Now, okay. Oh, yeah, good, that's good, that's

00:20:09.460 --> 00:20:13.720
good. Okay, now, he goes, she does, now she's

00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:15.819
making hits, apparently. Yes. The song of the

00:20:15.819 --> 00:20:19.839
summer, okay? Now, what's JT doing? That's a

00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:22.920
good question. Hey, Matt, maybe you can learn

00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.839
something from JT. You can learn something from

00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:28.640
JT in this experience. That's all I'm going to

00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:30.900
tell you. All right, let's keep the show rolling.

00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:35.220
But it's useful for them to continue to expand

00:20:35.220 --> 00:20:38.400
on people, is basically what I'm asking. Oh,

00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:41.519
yeah, yeah. I mean, if they keep doing that,

00:20:41.579 --> 00:20:42.799
I just think that they're going to have a big

00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:44.640
advantage. Like I said, this is not a new idea,

00:20:44.779 --> 00:20:47.980
but it is maybe one of the bigger things to try

00:20:47.980 --> 00:20:49.839
this idea in boxing, which I always kind of thought,

00:20:49.980 --> 00:20:51.859
like, you know, if you're a guy that could buy

00:20:51.859 --> 00:20:53.859
an NBA team, you're a guy that could do that.

00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.759
You could probably go buy boxing. I always thought

00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:58.160
that was a possibility. I always thought you

00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:00.099
could probably go buy boxing. It's not that expensive,

00:21:00.380 --> 00:21:03.740
okay? If this is what they could do with a big

00:21:03.740 --> 00:21:05.380
machine behind it, I think they could succeed.

00:21:05.819 --> 00:21:07.539
That's what I think. And I think that, like Mike

00:21:07.539 --> 00:21:09.460
said, if people are willing to spend, boxers

00:21:09.460 --> 00:21:15.180
are willing to sign. Okay, all right. One question

00:21:15.180 --> 00:21:19.400
about that. Who's spending the money? Is it TKO

00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.009
or is it Sela? I don't think it matters. I don't

00:21:22.009 --> 00:21:23.450
think it matters. I don't think it matters, but

00:21:23.450 --> 00:21:25.769
I do think it's Sella, right? Because they want

00:21:25.769 --> 00:21:29.069
this to be a UFC brand. This might be a write

00:21:29.069 --> 00:21:31.509
-off for them, Ezra. No, no, no, it's not a write

00:21:31.509 --> 00:21:33.470
-off. It's an investment. They want it to be

00:21:33.470 --> 00:21:36.450
the UFC brand. And they want this to eventually

00:21:36.450 --> 00:21:39.309
just be the same cash cow that WWE is and the

00:21:39.309 --> 00:21:41.089
UFC is. That's what they want. That's what they

00:21:41.089 --> 00:21:43.190
see the potential as. I think it is important,

00:21:43.369 --> 00:21:44.789
though, because if it's TKO spending, they're

00:21:44.789 --> 00:21:47.089
not going to spend as often if they're losing

00:21:47.089 --> 00:21:54.720
money. I agree. But we know that TKO will not

00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:57.420
be spending because the earning call said that

00:21:57.420 --> 00:22:00.539
they take a fee to operate it, but they don't

00:22:00.539 --> 00:22:02.660
put no money into it. Okay, okay, there we go

00:22:02.660 --> 00:22:04.700
then. They convinced Sela that they can make

00:22:04.700 --> 00:22:09.299
this into the UFC. And they're going to, Sela's

00:22:09.299 --> 00:22:11.359
going to invest in it, hoping that that's what

00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:14.059
this turns out to be. And it's a full court press

00:22:14.059 --> 00:22:17.309
that they're putting on. But like I said. I always

00:22:17.309 --> 00:22:19.369
thought boxing was, you were able to buy it if

00:22:19.369 --> 00:22:20.490
you had the right amount of money. You could

00:22:20.490 --> 00:22:23.009
buy everything. And they're going to fully test

00:22:23.009 --> 00:22:27.549
this out. Well, I don't think they can buy everything,

00:22:27.670 --> 00:22:35.190
but they can buy guys who like to pretend that

00:22:35.190 --> 00:22:38.150
they're stars. I was going to say that, man.

00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:43.059
Or don't believe in themselves. You got to have

00:22:43.059 --> 00:22:45.220
a certain confidence that you could sell. And

00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:48.279
this is what I do. And if you can't, there's

00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:50.119
a little bit of insecurity that creeps in there

00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:51.359
that, you know what, let me just get my money.

00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:54.380
Okay, that's fine. That's fine if you're Canelo

00:22:54.380 --> 00:22:57.180
and you're Floyd Mayweather. I'm going to tell

00:22:57.180 --> 00:22:59.019
you right now, we don't have a lot of Canelo.

00:22:59.460 --> 00:23:01.799
We don't have any Canelo. You got to believe

00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.140
in yourself. You got to believe you're that dude

00:23:04.140 --> 00:23:06.539
and you got to take those fights. Yeah, but here's

00:23:06.539 --> 00:23:08.789
the thing, though. Here's the thing. If you don't

00:23:08.789 --> 00:23:11.630
have those guys, right, then you can buy anybody.

00:23:12.009 --> 00:23:15.130
That's the truth of it. If you're willing to

00:23:15.130 --> 00:23:19.049
pay $10 to $20 million per fight, guaranteed,

00:23:19.150 --> 00:23:22.230
every one of these guys is going to take that.

00:23:22.410 --> 00:23:24.910
Because I don't care. I'll be honest with you.

00:23:24.930 --> 00:23:26.890
I see these guys. I don't see any of these guys.

00:23:26.930 --> 00:23:29.990
Besides Tate, they could really get to basically

00:23:29.990 --> 00:23:33.069
$20 million guaranteed every fight. I don't see

00:23:33.069 --> 00:23:36.059
it. I don't see it. So if they're going to pay

00:23:36.059 --> 00:23:38.279
this kind of money for these guys, I don't think

00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:39.039
that a lot of these guys are going to be like,

00:23:39.140 --> 00:23:40.180
no, no, no, I'm going to make that on my own.

00:23:40.259 --> 00:23:42.119
There's no way that they believe that. And if

00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:44.640
you get enough of the names, then hell, you have

00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:46.279
no chance of making that on your own because

00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:48.400
all the other names are over there. They'll box

00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.980
you out. So I think right now is the perfect

00:23:51.980 --> 00:23:54.880
time to try to do this. Yeah, but how many times

00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:57.019
have we thought that fighters were boxed out

00:23:57.019 --> 00:24:01.119
and they really weren't? It happens all the time.

00:24:02.420 --> 00:24:07.039
The boxing game is so, it changes so quickly

00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:10.700
that we can't say who's boxed out, who's doing

00:24:10.700 --> 00:24:13.019
this, who's doing that. All we can really say

00:24:13.019 --> 00:24:15.599
is right now, they spent money for Shakur Stevenson.

00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.319
Now it's time to spend money for Shakur Stevenson's

00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.359
opponents. Because you can get the guy, but are

00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:24.460
you going to invest in the opponents? Because

00:24:24.460 --> 00:24:28.099
that is part two of investing in a guy. Because

00:24:28.099 --> 00:24:33.829
we see. You have Edgar Belanger, who did a sold

00:24:33.829 --> 00:24:36.309
-out show with Canelo Alvarez, and Richard Hitchens,

00:24:36.450 --> 00:24:39.670
who's from Brooklyn, New York. They're on a bill

00:24:39.670 --> 00:24:44.609
together, and nobody cares. Yeah, but what does

00:24:44.609 --> 00:24:47.470
that mean? What does that matter? It means you

00:24:47.470 --> 00:24:50.430
can't just have one side of the names. You need

00:24:50.430 --> 00:24:52.789
to have compelling matches that people care about

00:24:52.789 --> 00:24:55.809
in order for it to work. Of course, of course.

00:24:56.349 --> 00:24:57.950
Of course, of course. If you keep buying the

00:24:57.950 --> 00:25:00.049
guys, you're going to have the matchups. Like

00:25:00.049 --> 00:25:03.009
I said, it's not that complicated. You know what

00:25:03.009 --> 00:25:06.269
I mean? We can't overthink it, right? If you're

00:25:06.269 --> 00:25:10.490
not performing, if you're not, if you're the

00:25:10.490 --> 00:25:12.309
Yankees, you don't have to overthink it. If you're

00:25:12.309 --> 00:25:13.789
the Athletics, you better overthink it. You better

00:25:13.789 --> 00:25:16.430
have some kind of game plan that is some strategy

00:25:16.430 --> 00:25:18.710
no one's thought of. But if you're the Yankees,

00:25:18.750 --> 00:25:20.609
it just comes down to a dollar. It just comes

00:25:20.609 --> 00:25:21.789
down to a dollar amount. If you're the Dodgers,

00:25:21.849 --> 00:25:23.349
it just comes down sometimes to a dollar amount.

00:25:24.529 --> 00:25:27.470
Okay, well. who are they going to buy for Shakur

00:25:27.470 --> 00:25:29.490
Stevenson next time? So I'm expecting a great

00:25:29.490 --> 00:25:30.829
opponent. Could you keep mentioning the Raya

00:25:30.829 --> 00:25:32.970
Valenzuela? Well, like I said, it's going to

00:25:32.970 --> 00:25:34.470
take time to get the guys, but I think, like

00:25:34.470 --> 00:25:36.509
I said, I think Haney's going to come. I think

00:25:36.509 --> 00:25:38.430
Ryan's going to come soon enough. I think they

00:25:38.430 --> 00:25:41.170
can make the Ryan fight next. I don't, I think

00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:45.390
that, like Deloitte said, Ryan has a deal with

00:25:45.390 --> 00:25:47.990
Turkey and him. It's not just Golden Boy, right?

00:25:48.069 --> 00:25:50.289
It's a two -fight deal, so this is... Yeah, yeah,

00:25:50.309 --> 00:25:53.630
and it's with Turkey, though. So it doesn't seem

00:25:53.630 --> 00:25:57.009
like... Golden Boy has complete say on what Ryan

00:25:57.009 --> 00:26:01.150
does next. That's not true. The fight's literally

00:26:01.150 --> 00:26:02.930
not happening because Golden Boy hasn't been

00:26:02.930 --> 00:26:07.289
there. Listen, there's a little disagreement,

00:26:07.450 --> 00:26:08.750
whatever. That fight's going to get over the

00:26:08.750 --> 00:26:10.829
line. I'm not saying it's not going to get over,

00:26:10.910 --> 00:26:12.410
but you're saying they're not involved. They're

00:26:12.410 --> 00:26:14.329
obviously involved. And De La Hoya has been on

00:26:14.329 --> 00:26:18.009
Twitter saying, oh, I don't want this fight next.

00:26:18.130 --> 00:26:19.210
I want the David Haney fight. I don't know why

00:26:19.210 --> 00:26:21.329
we're making this fight. Let me tell you something.

00:26:21.500 --> 00:26:23.420
The guy's revealed his cards. He doesn't have

00:26:23.420 --> 00:26:25.220
a lot of say in what's going on. No, he has a

00:26:25.220 --> 00:26:28.599
lot of say. Ask Virgil Ortiz. Ask Virgil Ortiz.

00:26:28.859 --> 00:26:30.819
He has a lot of say. No, not Virgil. I'm talking

00:26:30.819 --> 00:26:33.859
about De La Hoya. I'm talking about Ryan Garcia.

00:26:34.180 --> 00:26:37.579
He has the exact same amount of say with Ryan

00:26:37.579 --> 00:26:40.160
Garcia. That's what you're not getting. Stop

00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.079
interrupting me and I can tell you why. God damn.

00:26:43.940 --> 00:26:46.180
I understand that you disagree, but stop interrupting.

00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:48.460
I'll be able to tell you why. What's going on

00:26:48.460 --> 00:26:50.759
is... If they don't, if they don't do things

00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:52.380
the right way and go to go to what they're supposed

00:26:52.380 --> 00:26:55.819
to, it's not going to happen. Okay. I already

00:26:55.819 --> 00:26:58.599
told you that. So he said, you know what? I'll

00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.960
play nice. If they didn't play nice, but if they

00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:03.779
don't play nice, I'm not going to play nice.

00:27:03.819 --> 00:27:05.480
Well, honestly, the biggest thing is I will match

00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.380
your energy. I can fuck this up. He said, and

00:27:08.380 --> 00:27:11.099
he said for weeks, Hey, this is not happening

00:27:11.099 --> 00:27:13.319
because no one contacted me. But then this past

00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:16.339
week said, Oh, they finally contacted me. I finally,

00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:20.119
so, so, so now we can talk. But nothing happens

00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:23.000
unless Asuka says it's happening. And I don't

00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:24.420
understand why you don't understand that yet.

00:27:24.420 --> 00:27:28.720
Can I explain? Yeah, you can explain it when

00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:32.220
I'm done. You keep doubting Asuka every time

00:27:32.220 --> 00:27:34.619
Asuka always tells you he's on the right side

00:27:34.619 --> 00:27:36.940
of the paperwork. Every time Asuka proves it

00:27:36.940 --> 00:27:39.279
and you keep doubting it. Every single time.

00:27:39.420 --> 00:27:41.700
He did the same thing with Virgil. Question,

00:27:41.859 --> 00:27:43.700
what did I doubt in the Virgil situation? Did

00:27:43.700 --> 00:27:47.720
I doubt in the Virgil situation? I did not. Now,

00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:54.019
what I'm saying is that we often say, if you

00:27:54.019 --> 00:27:56.859
get new information, you have to take in that

00:27:56.859 --> 00:27:58.880
new information and present a different, whatever

00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.680
the current information you have. We went for

00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.299
Deloitte saying, I don't want this fight. It's

00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:05.420
not the fight I want, whatever. Oh, I just got

00:28:05.420 --> 00:28:06.980
the paperwork. Fight could have happened, right?

00:28:07.059 --> 00:28:09.440
All these things. Now, he said they have a deal

00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.500
with both guys. So, okay, maybe Deloitte can

00:28:11.500 --> 00:28:12.779
step in the way and say, oh, we're not going

00:28:12.779 --> 00:28:14.420
to make this happen. But you know what? Probably

00:28:14.420 --> 00:28:16.539
nothing's going to happen if that happens. So

00:28:16.539 --> 00:28:19.240
he doesn't have a lot of leverage because he

00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.410
didn't want to get a generate paid. for your

00:28:22.410 --> 00:28:23.990
investment. You still want to generate money

00:28:23.990 --> 00:28:27.609
for your investment, okay? So like I said, with

00:28:27.609 --> 00:28:33.190
Ryan, he said no numerous times about matchups,

00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:35.230
and we seem to always get those fights. We said

00:28:35.230 --> 00:28:38.069
no about those things, and it seems to happen.

00:28:38.450 --> 00:28:40.210
I don't think he has a lot to say when it comes

00:28:40.210 --> 00:28:41.970
to this guy's career. I think he could get in

00:28:41.970 --> 00:28:44.109
the way and make it hard, but for the most part,

00:28:44.190 --> 00:28:46.509
he's probably just going to give in because we

00:28:46.509 --> 00:28:48.269
need a payday. The payday's going to be good,

00:28:48.289 --> 00:28:50.609
so let's keep it going. How do you know that

00:28:50.609 --> 00:28:52.190
people are - going to have a great payday. So

00:28:52.190 --> 00:28:56.269
he's like, you know what? Of course. Okay, but

00:28:56.269 --> 00:28:58.849
the point is, is he had to get paperwork in order

00:28:58.849 --> 00:29:02.650
for this to move forward. I think that's all

00:29:02.650 --> 00:29:04.549
we're trying to say. No, no, no, no, no. Because

00:29:04.549 --> 00:29:07.430
what you guys are saying is that De La Hoya is

00:29:07.430 --> 00:29:08.950
maneuvering this the way he wants. That's not

00:29:08.950 --> 00:29:11.390
the case here. That was Brian. It's not the case.

00:29:11.549 --> 00:29:13.309
And it's clear to say that's not the case, okay?

00:29:13.470 --> 00:29:15.369
I don't think De La Hoya wants this bad fight.

00:29:15.509 --> 00:29:17.369
I don't think he does. I think he would go different

00:29:17.369 --> 00:29:19.660
route with it if he was controlling it. Not saying

00:29:19.660 --> 00:29:21.079
that he's worried about losing, but it's just

00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.180
that it's not even, it's going to be on a different,

00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:27.960
probably going to be a full control of the event,

00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.700
right? And I think that right now he kind of,

00:29:30.700 --> 00:29:32.180
with Ryan, he kind of just has to go the way

00:29:32.180 --> 00:29:34.720
that they're going to go. But I'm sure he wants

00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:36.339
it in certain terms, but that's what I'm saying.

00:29:36.380 --> 00:29:38.960
That's what it is. He doesn't have a lot of control

00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:40.500
of this guy's career. And it's obvious. I don't

00:29:40.500 --> 00:29:42.039
know why you guys are arguing that. What do you

00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.259
mean? It's literally a two -fight deal. And this

00:29:45.259 --> 00:29:48.549
is his second fight. He doesn't have no control

00:29:48.549 --> 00:29:51.630
of his career. Okay. We could move on to the

00:29:51.630 --> 00:29:58.670
next one. Yo, this guy, this guy, this guy, Basquiat

00:29:58.670 --> 00:30:01.369
NYC, always complaining about something. I'm

00:30:01.369 --> 00:30:04.130
sick of you. The background noise is so loud.

00:30:05.109 --> 00:30:08.569
You know what else is loud, Basquiat? Your stupidity.

00:30:08.690 --> 00:30:11.109
It's loud every fucking week. That's not true.

00:30:11.450 --> 00:30:14.380
Every week. I didn't hear the background noise,

00:30:14.460 --> 00:30:16.220
but now that Basquiat brought it up, I cannot

00:30:16.220 --> 00:30:18.819
hear it. You know what I mean? That guy is a

00:30:18.819 --> 00:30:20.259
sharp guy. I'll tell you that right now. He's

00:30:20.259 --> 00:30:23.460
got his ear to the ground, and he's really aware

00:30:23.460 --> 00:30:29.500
of what's happening. Let's talk about this PBC

00:30:29.500 --> 00:30:32.440
to DAZN thing. Obviously, we heard the news.

00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.299
PBC, DAZN, multi -fight deal. Some of the fights

00:30:36.299 --> 00:30:38.920
they were talking about. Did you see the list

00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:40.680
of fights they were talking about, Ezra? Yes.

00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.440
Okay, so of those fights, we had Sebastian Fandora

00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.599
versus Irmaj, blah, blah, blah, blah. We also

00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:53.200
had Jesus Ramos versus Miranda Saltonoff. We

00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:57.000
had Brandon Figueroa versus Tomoki Kameda. And

00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:01.759
we had Jose Salas Reyes, a .k .a. Chapulin Reyes,

00:31:01.859 --> 00:31:06.920
versus Michael Angeletti. What are your thoughts

00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:09.759
on that lineup of fights for different events?

00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:13.240
I like three out of four. I like three out of

00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:16.259
four. I don't care for the Fedora fight. Now,

00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:20.819
listen, sometimes you make excuses for certain

00:31:20.819 --> 00:31:22.579
things. I feel like I've been making excuses

00:31:22.579 --> 00:31:25.720
for, we made excuses for the Fedora Thurman fight.

00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:27.839
I didn't like it, but okay, what it is, what

00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:31.700
doesn't happen, pay the ad of it, name. There's

00:31:31.700 --> 00:31:35.019
real work to get done at 154. There's real, real

00:31:35.019 --> 00:31:37.460
work to get done there. He's going to have to

00:31:37.460 --> 00:31:41.089
get involved in the mix of this. I mean, We just

00:31:41.089 --> 00:31:43.190
got to see it. If this fight's going to happen,

00:31:43.269 --> 00:31:46.230
fine. I don't care for it. If Matt, you're going

00:31:46.230 --> 00:31:48.150
to say, oh, he's getting rid of the mandatory

00:31:48.150 --> 00:31:49.670
now, so we don't have to deal with it later.

00:31:49.750 --> 00:31:51.289
Okay, then fine. If there's some kind of strategy

00:31:51.289 --> 00:31:53.630
to it, that's fine. But I need to see some real

00:31:53.630 --> 00:31:55.470
work getting done. The other fights, like the

00:31:55.470 --> 00:31:59.029
Ramos fight, I like. Listen, Ramos, to me, did

00:31:59.029 --> 00:32:02.390
not look overly oppressive against Shane Mosley

00:32:02.390 --> 00:32:05.980
Jr. He didn't. He didn't. I think that's a tough

00:32:05.980 --> 00:32:07.200
fight. I think that's going to be an interesting

00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.559
fight. It's a fight I want to see. Figueroa versus

00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.019
Kameda, I think that's an action fight. I think

00:32:12.019 --> 00:32:14.680
that that's a fight where the styles mesh really

00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:16.460
well. So I think that's going to be a very entertaining

00:32:16.460 --> 00:32:19.359
fight. And Angeletti versus, what's his opponent's

00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:24.680
name? Anyone. Anyone. Kameda. Or Salas. Salas

00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:27.400
Reyes. Salas Reyes. Yeah, Kapulin, man. Yeah.

00:32:27.870 --> 00:32:29.289
that's going to be a really good fight because

00:32:29.289 --> 00:32:31.269
Angeletti, right, is a guy that you've been talking

00:32:31.269 --> 00:32:33.029
about for a long time, right? And we want to

00:32:33.029 --> 00:32:35.109
see what he really has, what we're about to really

00:32:35.109 --> 00:32:38.670
find out. And that is a fantastic, to me, those

00:32:38.670 --> 00:32:40.710
are the kind of fights I like. I like when you

00:32:40.710 --> 00:32:42.769
got a guy that's a champion, you got a guy that

00:32:42.769 --> 00:32:44.769
we see potential in, we see the thing, and we're

00:32:44.769 --> 00:32:46.710
about to find out the truth. Those are great

00:32:46.710 --> 00:32:48.509
matchups. I'm never going to be negative on a

00:32:48.509 --> 00:32:54.500
matchup like that. Breaking the conversation

00:32:54.500 --> 00:32:56.380
here, I do want to introduce a guest, frequent

00:32:56.380 --> 00:32:58.079
guest of the show, host of the longest running

00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.299
boxing show on YouTube, Boxing Source, J .R.

00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:03.579
Bell. How are you doing today? Yo, what's going

00:33:03.579 --> 00:33:05.619
on, man? Just, you know, catching up here on

00:33:05.619 --> 00:33:08.420
Brunch Boxing. Hey, listeners, hit the like button.

00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.940
Yo, those on Spaces, y 'all go ahead and follow

00:33:11.940 --> 00:33:16.079
Brunch Boxing. I mean, no, y 'all pretty much

00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.380
like open the whole show with the thing with

00:33:18.380 --> 00:33:22.869
Shakur and Zufa. I don't know what to make of

00:33:22.869 --> 00:33:26.390
it. I know that there's been some talk. I know

00:33:26.390 --> 00:33:29.930
someone made a recent post about Mr. Asher Kord,

00:33:29.970 --> 00:33:32.630
Nafit Shaheed Stevenson. And that person was

00:33:32.630 --> 00:33:38.029
Mr. Oshaki Foster. And I know that he's laughing

00:33:38.029 --> 00:33:40.589
about the whole thing because he would have thought

00:33:40.589 --> 00:33:42.990
that Shakur would have been a man of his word.

00:33:43.089 --> 00:33:45.250
But as of right now, it doesn't look like that

00:33:45.250 --> 00:33:50.390
is the case. As far as Shakur, signing with Zufa.

00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.900
I don't know if it's going to lead to a Ryo fight.

00:33:56.140 --> 00:33:59.759
I was hoping that it could eventually lead to,

00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:01.960
I don't know, Conor Benn, because he did have

00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.700
a face -to -face with Conor Benn as well. So

00:34:04.700 --> 00:34:08.099
as of right now, it's unknown what's going to

00:34:08.099 --> 00:34:10.280
be the next move for Shakur Stevenson. I know

00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:14.239
what he was talking about on SportsCenter or

00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:18.460
on Nightcap, but do any of y 'all believe what

00:34:18.460 --> 00:34:20.840
he was talking about in those shows? At least

00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:26.239
for me, I don't. So I just think it's just something

00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:27.780
where, like y 'all were saying, that they're

00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:30.260
trying to, you know, buy all the affinity stones.

00:34:32.099 --> 00:34:34.019
Yeah, I agree. Yeah, that's what they're trying

00:34:34.019 --> 00:34:37.059
to do. You know, you got to see what shoe drops

00:34:37.059 --> 00:34:39.719
next. I think that every guy that becomes a free

00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:41.300
agent, it's going to get interesting at that

00:34:41.300 --> 00:34:44.599
point. We shall see. You know, we got to see

00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:48.090
all these guys on the zone. Just don't step in

00:34:48.090 --> 00:34:49.710
the way of some of these, right? And be like,

00:34:49.769 --> 00:34:52.190
hey, whatever we got to do financially to keep

00:34:52.190 --> 00:34:54.690
these guys, these names, right? A guy like David

00:34:54.690 --> 00:34:59.250
Benavidez, guys like Ryan Garcia, guys like that,

00:34:59.369 --> 00:35:02.849
to keep them over here so we can have them on

00:35:02.849 --> 00:35:04.829
our schedule. I'm very curious how that plays

00:35:04.829 --> 00:35:09.050
out. Yeah, and also, why do people pretend like

00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:15.349
TKO has the biggest war chest in boxing? We do

00:35:15.349 --> 00:35:18.619
know that DAZN is owned by a Russian oligarch,

00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.559
right? Right, that's where it gets really interesting,

00:35:20.699 --> 00:35:24.039
right? DAZN can really play this financial too,

00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.960
right? Yeah, Black Atlantic is a billionaire

00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.360
on top of a billionaire on top of a billionaire.

00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:34.860
He owns one of the largest, probably the largest,

00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.820
if you debated, media companies in the world.

00:35:37.900 --> 00:35:41.239
So yeah, he - He probably owns the color blue.

00:35:44.259 --> 00:35:47.679
No, would you guys say then, instead of we always

00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:50.980
say it's these promotions versus Zufa, is it

00:35:50.980 --> 00:35:58.900
going to become DAZN versus Zufa? Don't answer

00:35:58.900 --> 00:36:02.960
all at once. Probably. It just, you know, like

00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.860
I said, it just depends on what... I still got

00:36:07.860 --> 00:36:10.760
to see how they work out their current media

00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.780
distribution deal with Paramount. But, you know,

00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.920
outside of that, you know, if they try to expand,

00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.340
then we'll see. But I think, you know, they're

00:36:19.340 --> 00:36:22.519
going to have, as they say, like, Selah or TKO

00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.980
involved, which means Ring Magazine or Ring Events

00:36:24.980 --> 00:36:26.960
are going to be, you know, part of that, too.

00:36:27.900 --> 00:36:30.719
That's how I like to incorporate Conor Benn,

00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.320
because when Conor Benn was said to be signed

00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:38.219
with Zufa, TKO pretty much came out and said,

00:36:38.260 --> 00:36:41.059
no, that's basically turkey a la chic, requiring

00:36:41.059 --> 00:36:46.460
Conor Benn's services, so to speak. How is it

00:36:46.460 --> 00:36:50.940
that one guy has his fingers in every pie, but

00:36:50.940 --> 00:36:53.380
yet the boxing picture is still all murky and

00:36:53.380 --> 00:36:59.139
fucked up? It doesn't make sense almost if you

00:36:59.139 --> 00:37:02.579
think about it. Who has their own businesses

00:37:02.579 --> 00:37:06.539
competing against each other? It doesn't make

00:37:06.539 --> 00:37:11.219
any sense. It's an interesting business. Internal

00:37:11.219 --> 00:37:17.719
competition. What he's doing is the Fox and Hunger

00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:22.840
Games. So you don't think the Peace Summit worked?

00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.840
I don't think there was a Peace Summit. I don't

00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:27.900
think there was either. Nah, that was just a

00:37:27.900 --> 00:37:31.219
meeting, man. That wasn't no peace summit. They

00:37:31.219 --> 00:37:33.679
were negotiating Joshua versus Perry. Yeah, that's

00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:37.760
all it was. It was just negotiating. Matt, I

00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.880
want to go back to the four fights. Okay. Reyes

00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.159
versus Angioletti, is that the most underrated

00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.199
fight of the year? I think it's a very underrated

00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:47.960
fight. I think it's a very underrated fight.

00:37:48.300 --> 00:37:51.179
Like I said, I think that boxing fans, sometimes

00:37:51.179 --> 00:37:55.119
they don't know what they want. You got two young

00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.280
guys fighting each other on top of the game.

00:37:57.659 --> 00:37:59.840
It's like, that's what you want. And it's not

00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:01.719
always gonna pan out as a great fight, but you're

00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:04.940
gonna get an honest result. That's what you want.

00:38:05.099 --> 00:38:10.509
I don't understand pushing back on that. Yo,

00:38:10.509 --> 00:38:17.969
who's like in an office? Matt. Thank you. I can

00:38:17.969 --> 00:38:20.750
hear all New York. We should put featuring all

00:38:20.750 --> 00:38:25.889
New York. I already know what time the station

00:38:25.889 --> 00:38:30.809
stops and everything. I don't even know. One

00:38:30.809 --> 00:38:35.190
thing I realized from Matt traveling, you know,

00:38:35.190 --> 00:38:38.340
because he's a traveling man. People in New York

00:38:38.340 --> 00:38:40.820
have got really nothing to say. I've never heard

00:38:40.820 --> 00:38:42.340
one interesting thing in his background where

00:38:42.340 --> 00:38:44.039
I was like, hey, what an interesting point to

00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.519
put it. What about the time when a guy was screaming

00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:49.800
bloody murder for help? Yeah, and I was like,

00:38:49.860 --> 00:38:51.280
oh, man, are you going to help that guy? You're

00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:53.519
like, he just missed the bus. I was like, there's

00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.619
no way. There's no way this guy's screaming for

00:38:55.619 --> 00:38:57.300
help, and the only thing he did was miss the

00:38:57.300 --> 00:38:59.739
bus. All he did was miss the bus. And there was

00:38:59.739 --> 00:39:03.400
another bus right behind it. Yeah, I could see

00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.039
that in New York City. They would just scream

00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:09.300
and go crazy about missing the bus. Yeah, that

00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:13.019
can actually happen. It sounds like. and it sounds

00:39:13.019 --> 00:39:14.500
pretty boring, I've got to be honest with you.

00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.159
I've never, and I'm a guy that likes to, you

00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.000
know, pay attention to people's conversations.

00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:20.960
Like, if I'm sitting there, someone's talking,

00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:21.940
I'm going to be like, what are these guys talking

00:39:21.940 --> 00:39:24.239
about? And I've never once been like, hey, Matt,

00:39:24.340 --> 00:39:25.639
keep it down, let me hear the person in the back.

00:39:25.820 --> 00:39:29.280
I've never, it's never happened. I'm not going

00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.039
to lie, our guy from Keep It 100 Boxing, Ty,

00:39:32.300 --> 00:39:35.219
he had a very interesting background today. He

00:39:35.219 --> 00:39:41.599
did. And Ezra. Off air, you had a very interesting

00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:45.340
background the other day. I was telling that

00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:48.579
to my wife. I told my wife, I said, hey. Oh,

00:39:48.579 --> 00:39:51.920
so what was going on in the background? You can't

00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:55.860
play it live. You said, hey, Matt heard you?

00:39:56.579 --> 00:39:58.119
Yeah, I was like, hey, you know, Matt heard our

00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.019
conversation. And she was like, what, how? She's

00:40:01.019 --> 00:40:02.320
like, I thought you put me on the space. I was

00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:03.820
like, it wasn't a space. Didn't realize that

00:40:03.820 --> 00:40:06.440
when you set up a streaming audience, it just

00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:11.000
needs to keep the microphone on. Yeah, you got

00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:14.179
to mute your mic there. She was probably mortified.

00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.480
I'm just glad I didn't say anything too crazy.

00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.000
There's a reason he's in the vehicle now, man.

00:40:21.179 --> 00:40:24.619
There's a reason he's in the vehicle. Hey, I'll

00:40:24.619 --> 00:40:26.300
be honest. I still want to know who she was talking

00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:31.619
about. That was a very interesting conversation.

00:40:33.980 --> 00:40:36.480
You're not texting me the whole time. I can hear

00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:40.039
you. You even put an exclamation point on your

00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:45.059
own tweet. Come on, man. Tell your wife, stop

00:40:45.059 --> 00:40:53.840
talking about Jenny Sachs. No, you know. Oh,

00:40:53.860 --> 00:40:57.780
man. That shit was too funny. But yeah, I love

00:40:57.780 --> 00:41:02.009
this Chapul and the Angeletti fight because And

00:41:02.009 --> 00:41:04.570
Chapulin is going to give Angeletti all that

00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:05.969
he can handle, and Angeletti's going to have

00:41:05.969 --> 00:41:08.110
to fight him off. He's going to have to fight

00:41:08.110 --> 00:41:11.210
him off because Chapulin doesn't stop coming

00:41:11.210 --> 00:41:13.789
forward. He doesn't stop throwing punches. And

00:41:13.789 --> 00:41:18.210
Angeletti, you know, he is a defensive -minded

00:41:18.210 --> 00:41:21.190
wizard, but he could get sucked into a war. And

00:41:21.190 --> 00:41:28.010
the Kameda fucking Figueroa fight, bro. That's

00:41:28.010 --> 00:41:32.329
going to be all action. Yeah, I mean, you know,

00:41:32.329 --> 00:41:35.769
we couldn't get, like, what, Figueroa versus,

00:41:35.869 --> 00:41:40.670
who's the WBO? Because they thought about having

00:41:40.670 --> 00:41:43.449
a unification with Figueroa, but this is a nice

00:41:43.449 --> 00:41:47.309
consolation prize. Exactly. This is good for

00:41:47.309 --> 00:41:49.650
the eyes. Yeah, it should be really entertaining.

00:41:50.090 --> 00:41:52.730
And then from there, you have a thousand other

00:41:52.730 --> 00:41:55.030
matchups now. Like, so the one thing, it's like,

00:41:55.110 --> 00:41:57.550
if DAZN can really get these guys to make...

00:41:57.789 --> 00:42:00.010
strong schedules and make the guys fight each

00:42:00.010 --> 00:42:03.269
other a little bit more consistently, it could

00:42:03.269 --> 00:42:05.389
really be something special. It could be that.

00:42:05.469 --> 00:42:07.289
It really could. It could be nothing. It really

00:42:07.289 --> 00:42:08.750
could. We could be very frustrated with it as

00:42:08.750 --> 00:42:10.150
well. Being like, hey, these guys are all the

00:42:10.150 --> 00:42:11.309
same thing and they're still not fighting each

00:42:11.309 --> 00:42:13.210
other. This is what we're getting. So it could

00:42:13.210 --> 00:42:14.949
be extremely frustrating, but it could be really

00:42:14.949 --> 00:42:19.590
special. And these matchups, I'm very curious

00:42:19.590 --> 00:42:22.480
because If PBC could get a steady schedule, I'm

00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.039
very curious on how they're able to build their

00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:25.619
guys because I think they've always been pretty

00:42:25.619 --> 00:42:27.739
great at that. So I'm very curious how they could

00:42:27.739 --> 00:42:30.739
build a new batch of guys coming up. And all

00:42:30.739 --> 00:42:32.480
these guys are kind of on the same playing field

00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:34.039
now, so it's like you're really going to see

00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:40.820
what promotions excel in this situation. Yeah,

00:42:40.860 --> 00:42:43.059
well, let me ask you a question, though. Why

00:42:43.059 --> 00:42:46.320
does it seem like, I guess, the boxing Twitter

00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:50.820
fans... aren't too excited about these matchups?

00:42:51.780 --> 00:42:57.840
I don't think they're like wow names. And I think

00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.739
that what people have to realize is good matchups

00:43:00.739 --> 00:43:02.739
don't really do it for people. It's like the

00:43:02.739 --> 00:43:07.929
name value of them, right? I think that... When

00:43:07.929 --> 00:43:09.670
you have the announcers like that, they want,

00:43:09.769 --> 00:43:11.349
oh, these big names, like, we're going to get

00:43:11.349 --> 00:43:13.170
the Crews, the Menomitas, and they're going to

00:43:13.170 --> 00:43:14.789
be an interesting matchup. And I think that when

00:43:14.789 --> 00:43:16.250
they didn't get that, they were kind of, like,

00:43:16.389 --> 00:43:18.670
felt underwhelmed, I guess. But you have to think

00:43:18.670 --> 00:43:23.090
about, like, just, like, what I think about in

00:43:23.090 --> 00:43:24.610
boxing is just, like, I just want something that

00:43:24.610 --> 00:43:26.530
is kind of hard to predict. I want something

00:43:26.530 --> 00:43:29.269
that is, like, has some mystery to it, and it's

00:43:29.269 --> 00:43:31.030
two guys fighting at the top level. That's why

00:43:31.030 --> 00:43:33.150
I see matchups. But it didn't have the name value,

00:43:33.289 --> 00:43:35.429
and I think that's what people kind of shot it

00:43:35.429 --> 00:43:39.519
down. Yeah, yeah. Now, the Jesus Ramos and the

00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.659
Sultanah fight, to me, that's interesting because

00:43:42.659 --> 00:43:47.019
do we really know what Jesus Ramos is? Like I

00:43:47.019 --> 00:43:49.840
said, I wasn't impressed on his first middleweight

00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:51.699
fight. I was not. Or if that was the second,

00:43:51.780 --> 00:43:54.699
I don't remember. But that Shea Mosley Jr. fight,

00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.300
I thought that he was going to run through Shea

00:43:57.300 --> 00:44:01.440
Mosley, and he didn't. He looked kind of a little

00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.460
bit ordinary. I think he could lose this matchup.

00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.760
So I, I like it because to me, it's like a close

00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.920
matchup. I thought that, I thought that was a

00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.199
good fight. Uh, the Ramos versus most, I thought

00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:15.960
it was a pretty good fight. It was an entertaining

00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:20.800
fight. Yeah. But I don't, I think with, uh, it

00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.559
doesn't show me anything really before that.

00:44:24.989 --> 00:44:26.710
It's like, hey, you know what? You should be

00:44:26.710 --> 00:44:28.349
in an entertaining fight with Shane Mosley Jr.

00:44:28.650 --> 00:44:32.010
You know, back and forth fight. That's not what

00:44:32.010 --> 00:44:33.829
I saw. That's not what he needed for that. I

00:44:33.829 --> 00:44:37.150
don't know. Maybe the thing with Ramos was when

00:44:37.150 --> 00:44:40.030
he was at 154, a lot of the fighters that he

00:44:40.030 --> 00:44:43.369
took on were like, you know, smaller or whatever

00:44:43.369 --> 00:44:46.510
it is. So he was basically a 160 guy fighting

00:44:46.510 --> 00:44:51.590
154 pound guys. We see that happen, right? What's

00:44:51.590 --> 00:44:54.409
his best performance? Is it a Joey Spencer fight?

00:44:56.409 --> 00:45:02.289
What's his best performance? I thought it was

00:45:02.289 --> 00:45:07.489
a Rosario fight. What else? Because remember

00:45:07.489 --> 00:45:10.630
he had the joint with Erickson Lubin where he

00:45:10.630 --> 00:45:14.050
lost that Lubin fight. I know a lot of people

00:45:14.050 --> 00:45:15.530
think that's whatever. I thought Lubin beat him.

00:45:15.630 --> 00:45:17.769
I thought Lubin outboxed him. I really did. I

00:45:17.769 --> 00:45:20.989
thought Lubin beat him. Yeah, so I think he's

00:45:20.989 --> 00:45:22.949
one of those guys that looked very interesting

00:45:22.949 --> 00:45:25.710
when he was crushing cans coming up. He looked

00:45:25.710 --> 00:45:27.110
like, man, look at his build. Look at what he

00:45:27.110 --> 00:45:29.409
could do. I don't think he knows what his style

00:45:29.409 --> 00:45:33.429
is. And I think that he... One thing he told

00:45:33.429 --> 00:45:35.789
me when I interviewed him was he's trying to

00:45:35.789 --> 00:45:38.610
get what he does in sparring to happen in the

00:45:38.610 --> 00:45:41.090
ring. And I understand that because I've seen

00:45:41.090 --> 00:45:43.110
a lot of killers in sparring. I've seen guys

00:45:43.110 --> 00:45:46.670
that were world -level fighters in sparring that

00:45:46.670 --> 00:45:50.559
didn't go into an actual box. didn't actually

00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:52.699
happen. But I also think that's also because

00:45:52.699 --> 00:45:54.699
he's not sure who he is. He's not sure what a

00:45:54.699 --> 00:45:56.900
style works for him. And he knows the style he

00:45:56.900 --> 00:45:58.820
wants to do when he's crushing cans. But when

00:45:58.820 --> 00:46:00.480
it gets to a little bit of a challenge, he's

00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.500
like in between boxer, aggressive fighter. And

00:46:03.500 --> 00:46:04.900
I think that that sort of kind of falls apart

00:46:04.900 --> 00:46:10.420
for him a little bit. Well, if it falls apart

00:46:10.420 --> 00:46:12.519
against Nassau Tanoff, he might get put out.

00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.519
One thing Nassau Tanoff could do, he could punch

00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:20.309
a little bit. Since he's fighting a Saltanoff,

00:46:20.449 --> 00:46:24.849
does this mean that Carlos Adamez is done at

00:46:24.849 --> 00:46:28.449
160 completely? Because Adamez was supposed to

00:46:28.449 --> 00:46:31.389
fight a Saltanoff. I don't know what the hell

00:46:31.389 --> 00:46:33.670
Adamez is doing. I really don't. I don't get

00:46:33.670 --> 00:46:35.050
it. And you know what? I thought he looked good

00:46:35.050 --> 00:46:37.130
his last fight. I like the way he looked his

00:46:37.130 --> 00:46:39.949
last fight against Amel. And I don't know. It

00:46:39.949 --> 00:46:43.130
just seems like a very weird waste of a career

00:46:43.130 --> 00:46:45.809
that could have probably been pretty interesting,

00:46:45.889 --> 00:46:48.659
honestly. And it's just... I don't know. If it

00:46:48.659 --> 00:46:51.400
goes 168, let's do it. Let's get it going. There's

00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:54.179
fights to be made there. But, man, you got to

00:46:54.179 --> 00:46:56.000
do something. You got to get some momentum. Keep

00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:58.400
building some momentum because this is, maybe

00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:00.099
it's not his fault, right? He's not like he has

00:47:00.099 --> 00:47:03.300
the most power in his name. But, man, this is

00:47:03.300 --> 00:47:08.940
a waste of a career. We got a comment from a

00:47:08.940 --> 00:47:12.320
frequent listener, Dan the Boxing Man. He said

00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.739
there's a side of people on Twitter that just

00:47:14.739 --> 00:47:17.199
hates whatever PBC puts out. but they didn't

00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.099
say shit about Keisha versus Albright 2 or the

00:47:20.099 --> 00:47:23.480
upcoming Terramona versus Savage bout. First

00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:31.360
of all, you're right. But Terramona versus DeAndre

00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:37.219
Savage. Oh, no. Let's go. Let's go. Hey, hey,

00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.559
Dan, you my god. You my god, Dan. But you're

00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:44.989
way off base with this one. Oh, no. Oh, man.

00:47:45.269 --> 00:47:49.369
This is going to be meat cleavers being thrown,

00:47:49.769 --> 00:47:53.250
okay? I want to say that. Matt's opinion on heavyweights

00:47:53.250 --> 00:47:55.130
fight is to be taken with a grain of salt. Yeah,

00:47:55.130 --> 00:47:57.090
yeah, yeah. A lot of salt, actually. No, no.

00:47:57.230 --> 00:48:02.409
Salt. Salt, pepper. Garlic. Yeah. Garlic. Yeah.

00:48:02.670 --> 00:48:04.969
Salt, garlic, butter. Hey, he's going to eat

00:48:04.969 --> 00:48:09.880
that meat. He's going to eat that meat. Sauteed

00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.920
mushrooms. Oh, God. He is going to eat that meat.

00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:20.739
Oh! Whoa! Now, I will say I'm consistent. I like

00:48:20.739 --> 00:48:24.480
Keisha over Saul Brighton. I thought people were

00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.519
really down on that fight. I was like, it's an

00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:28.559
interesting matchup. Now, did it pan out good

00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:32.719
in the rings? Not really. Not really? Not at

00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.619
all. Yeah, yeah. I didn't hate it. I didn't hate

00:48:36.619 --> 00:48:40.039
it on paper. I was like, I get it. Had real heat.

00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:42.699
Had real heat. Come on, guys. You got to talk

00:48:42.699 --> 00:48:44.460
about real heat is a real thing. You know what

00:48:44.460 --> 00:48:49.099
I mean? Oh, man. If you care about real heat,

00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.699
you should be pushing for Shakur Stevenson to

00:48:51.699 --> 00:48:56.780
fight Oshaki Foster. And you should be pushing

00:48:56.780 --> 00:48:59.599
for Devin Haney to fight Tiger Johnson. I do.

00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.840
I do. You know what? I wouldn't mind that right

00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:05.639
now. That's real heat. Yeah, that is real heat.

00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.380
Real heat is a real thing. Like, you know, Sunday

00:49:09.380 --> 00:49:15.639
night with the WWE. That Adamas joint, I thought,

00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:18.059
you know, they were trying to angle him to fight

00:49:18.059 --> 00:49:20.460
the IBF champ or something like that. But I guess

00:49:20.460 --> 00:49:23.519
that fizzled out. So now it's like, what in the

00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.219
world is Adamas going to be doing? You know,

00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:29.500
you're saying that you're moving up to 168 and

00:49:29.500 --> 00:49:32.780
you can't even get fights at 168. So now what?

00:49:33.900 --> 00:49:36.900
I don't know what they do. I really don't know

00:49:36.900 --> 00:49:40.460
what they're going to do. What else you got for

00:49:40.460 --> 00:49:48.900
me, Matt? So I was also looking back. Hey, Mike,

00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:56.239
you there? Mike, are you there? I'm here. It's

00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:58.320
time for the food portion of the show, Mike.

00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:05.059
Okay, here we go. Okay, Jaime Munguia, Mike,

00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.760
Jaime Munguia has, I guess, a restraining order.

00:50:09.059 --> 00:50:12.199
I guess it's Baby Baba and it's like all this

00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.440
drama going on. Can you give us a rundown on

00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.599
what is going on in the food community? Yeah,

00:50:18.619 --> 00:50:21.360
so right now, you know, Jaime put a restraining

00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.840
order because he feels that, you know, they're

00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:27.519
arguing and potential getting into some altercation

00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.900
and he's trying to avoid that stuff. And he had

00:50:30.900 --> 00:50:33.039
the right during his day to be with his child

00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:36.039
during his graduation. Well, she tried to show

00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:39.539
up, of course, unpeacefully, like he was going

00:50:39.539 --> 00:50:43.760
to. And, you know. Anyway, how do you know that

00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.579
she showed up unpeacefully? Hey, Ezra, I have

00:50:46.579 --> 00:50:49.860
an inside source at TJ, okay? I got an inside

00:50:49.860 --> 00:50:53.099
source. I brought this up. I told everybody this

00:50:53.099 --> 00:50:55.960
was going down. Okay, she showed up to a graduation,

00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:58.739
a kindergarten graduation, right? Unpeacefully.

00:50:58.820 --> 00:51:01.599
Okay, okay. I just want to just look at it. Unpeacefully.

00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.380
She believes she had the right to sit next to

00:51:04.380 --> 00:51:06.880
Hyman during the graduation. You know, it wasn't

00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:11.019
going to happen. Where? At the graduation. Next

00:51:11.019 --> 00:51:14.300
to Hyman? Yeah, next to Malia. So she was allowed

00:51:14.300 --> 00:51:16.760
to sit there, but just not next to Hyman. Yeah.

00:51:17.139 --> 00:51:19.420
Okay, so I think personally, I think you have

00:51:19.420 --> 00:51:21.539
your information wrong, my friend. I personally

00:51:21.539 --> 00:51:23.579
think that because I think she wasn't even allowed

00:51:23.579 --> 00:51:26.360
at the event. I think that's what that was. No,

00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:28.739
he was okay with it. He wasn't going to enforce

00:51:28.739 --> 00:51:34.599
anything until she made that move. You're right.

00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:39.780
I get what you're trying to say. And who enforced

00:51:39.780 --> 00:51:42.280
this? I'm just curious, Mike. Who enforced that

00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.420
she was removed from the graduation? Yeah, the

00:51:45.420 --> 00:51:47.980
school administration called the police here,

00:51:48.019 --> 00:51:53.090
Ezra. The police had to come and remove her from

00:51:53.090 --> 00:51:54.409
the kindergarten graduation. Well, that's the

00:51:54.409 --> 00:51:56.190
appropriate way to handle something, Ezra. Did

00:51:56.190 --> 00:52:00.349
you want him to get physical with her? What do

00:52:00.349 --> 00:52:03.489
you mean? I think Ezra's baffled by the fact

00:52:03.489 --> 00:52:06.070
that someone had to be removed by police from

00:52:06.070 --> 00:52:09.230
a kindergarten graduation. Hey, man, it happens.

00:52:09.269 --> 00:52:11.510
You got to behave yourself because then you end

00:52:11.510 --> 00:52:17.250
up in situations like this. So do you think I'm

00:52:17.250 --> 00:52:21.739
going to say this? You know, I love Asian people,

00:52:21.860 --> 00:52:24.599
but you don't got to marry somebody from Hong

00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:29.199
Kong. This guy's an idiot. This guy's an idiot.

00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:31.679
That's my joke, by the way. That's my joke, by

00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:33.920
the way. That's my joke, by the way. But I will

00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:37.179
say this. I will say this. Oh, man, that's funny.

00:52:37.340 --> 00:52:40.420
Is Jaime to blame, in your eyes, is Jaime to

00:52:40.420 --> 00:52:45.380
blame at all in this situation? Yes. Okay, how?

00:52:45.949 --> 00:52:48.190
You got to be careful how you take your baby

00:52:48.190 --> 00:52:53.110
mama. You got to be careful. That's a fact. So

00:52:53.110 --> 00:52:55.630
he's only to blame because he chose the wrong

00:52:55.630 --> 00:52:59.750
person. And generally, as a man, you got to be

00:52:59.750 --> 00:53:01.230
responsible for anything that goes on in your

00:53:01.230 --> 00:53:03.250
life. If something goes wrong, when it all boils

00:53:03.250 --> 00:53:05.210
down, it's your fault. No one else's. That's

00:53:05.210 --> 00:53:07.449
true. You know what? You're right. You're right

00:53:07.449 --> 00:53:10.989
about that. Hey, this fool can't control this

00:53:10.989 --> 00:53:15.769
woman. I got it. I never used the term cheap

00:53:15.769 --> 00:53:17.429
for the streets, but now I know what they're

00:53:17.429 --> 00:53:21.050
talking about when they say that. I wasn't sure

00:53:21.050 --> 00:53:24.150
about the food community segment of this show.

00:53:24.210 --> 00:53:26.190
I got to be honest with you. Now I'm all in.

00:53:26.389 --> 00:53:29.269
I am completely sold. Mike, please bring some

00:53:29.269 --> 00:53:31.530
food community news every week to this show.

00:53:31.570 --> 00:53:36.289
I can only bring what might connect from TJ.

00:53:37.449 --> 00:53:40.650
I'm just saying, I don't even care if it has

00:53:40.650 --> 00:53:43.239
to do with boxing. Just bring me something. Please

00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:44.980
bring me something from the food community every

00:53:44.980 --> 00:53:51.860
week. Man. Speaking of the food community, Rolo

00:53:51.860 --> 00:53:56.219
Romero and Tiafema Lopez had their face off this

00:53:56.219 --> 00:53:58.820
week. Yes, they did. And I don't think either

00:53:58.820 --> 00:54:01.059
one's from the food community, by the way. They

00:54:01.059 --> 00:54:06.579
are not. But Tio, I don't know what it is about

00:54:06.579 --> 00:54:11.000
Tio. It looks like he's joking around. And Roley

00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:14.440
don't look like he playing. Am I wrong for thinking

00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:17.099
right away Roley's going to knock this dude out?

00:54:18.359 --> 00:54:20.159
You know, the one thing, I've learned my lesson,

00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.320
I don't try to read what Teal's mind is doing

00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:27.179
or anything like that. Like I said, we have done

00:54:27.179 --> 00:54:29.039
things where we're like, Teal's going to get

00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:31.460
destroyed in this fight. Mentally, he's not there.

00:54:31.539 --> 00:54:33.119
He's all over the place. And then he has his

00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:36.119
best performance. I'm not in the business of

00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:40.000
reading Teal's mind or what he's thinking. So

00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:41.579
I think he could go in there, joke around, and

00:54:41.579 --> 00:54:44.460
still get a massive knockout on Rowley. I think

00:54:44.460 --> 00:54:45.900
he could go in there completely serious and take

00:54:45.900 --> 00:54:48.480
a beating from Rowley. I can't read that part

00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:51.500
of it. I know that this is a good matchup. I

00:54:51.500 --> 00:54:54.099
know that I sometimes go back and forth. I'm

00:54:54.099 --> 00:54:56.599
leaning T .O., right? I'm leaning T .O., but

00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:58.500
I could go back and forth on this one. I could

00:54:58.500 --> 00:55:00.340
go back and forth, and I could see that Rowley

00:55:00.340 --> 00:55:03.539
kind of fighting so awkwardly that it frustrates

00:55:03.539 --> 00:55:05.239
T .O. and throws off his timing, and he really

00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:07.679
falls apart in that fight. So I go back and forth,

00:55:07.739 --> 00:55:09.679
but I'm not going to try to read either of these

00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:13.260
guys' minds. Based off of T .O. Pima Sr., the

00:55:13.260 --> 00:55:14.940
way he was talking, he has not learned his lesson,

00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:18.039
Matt. Like, his dad took zero responsibility,

00:55:18.500 --> 00:55:21.780
blamed his son for everything. So we're going

00:55:21.780 --> 00:55:24.239
to get the same thing that he gets in the corner

00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:29.000
every fight, and that's not good. You know, the

00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:31.280
one thing that Tio Feeble Sr. said that I didn't

00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:33.760
know was an advantage in a fight. You're going

00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:37.360
to hate yourself, bro. He says, we know how to

00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.840
lose now. I said, I don't think that's a good

00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.250
thing. I didn't think that was a positive thing.

00:55:42.349 --> 00:55:44.489
But he said that Shakur, he goes, he feels bad

00:55:44.489 --> 00:55:46.090
for Shakur because Shakur doesn't know how to

00:55:46.090 --> 00:55:48.090
lose. And I said, you know what, that's a fact.

00:55:48.449 --> 00:55:51.349
I said, that right there is accurate. He's speaking

00:55:51.349 --> 00:55:53.670
truth there. They do know how to lose and Shakur

00:55:53.670 --> 00:55:56.829
doesn't as of right now. Now, could it be that

00:55:56.829 --> 00:55:59.769
him saying that we know how to lose is we know

00:55:59.769 --> 00:56:01.889
how to bounce back from adversity and because

00:56:01.889 --> 00:56:04.969
he is a drunk, he doesn't know how to elocute

00:56:04.969 --> 00:56:07.449
himself. Well, here's the thing. I don't know

00:56:07.449 --> 00:56:09.849
what that last word you said meant. But here's

00:56:09.849 --> 00:56:11.389
the other thing that I'm going to say about that.

00:56:13.030 --> 00:56:14.489
There's no proof that they know how to do that

00:56:14.489 --> 00:56:18.269
because they haven't done it yet. Oh, I guess

00:56:18.269 --> 00:56:19.849
you're right. They have lost before. You're right

00:56:19.849 --> 00:56:22.050
about that. Actually, so did he just learn how

00:56:22.050 --> 00:56:24.030
to lose? Or did they learn how to lose when the

00:56:24.030 --> 00:56:26.389
Cabozos fight? That's actually a better question.

00:56:26.730 --> 00:56:28.309
When did he learn how to lose? Did it take two

00:56:28.309 --> 00:56:31.769
times? Or was it the first time? I think that's

00:56:31.769 --> 00:56:34.820
right here. I think he's just saying they know

00:56:34.820 --> 00:56:36.679
how to bounce back from adversity. Oh, okay.

00:56:36.980 --> 00:56:40.199
That's all. We shall see. I mean, does Tiafema

00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:41.820
Lopez think you'll strike you as a wordsmith?

00:56:42.699 --> 00:56:46.719
No. Yeah, all right. Ezra, you got to fix the

00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:48.579
channel. Brick Squad wants to send super chats.

00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.760
Uh -oh, Tom, I got to send an apology video to

00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.280
YouTube, apparently. With my face in it, with

00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.750
the newspaper of today's date. stating why, I

00:56:57.750 --> 00:56:59.389
don't know what I'm asking for forgiveness for

00:56:59.389 --> 00:57:01.929
YouTube. I'm not sure. I would love for us to

00:57:01.929 --> 00:57:03.409
get super chats, but YouTube wants an apology

00:57:03.409 --> 00:57:06.190
video for, I don't know what Matt did, where

00:57:06.190 --> 00:57:07.949
we needed to send an apology to YouTube. Wow.

00:57:08.269 --> 00:57:10.730
So you don't know what it is, but you're automatically

00:57:10.730 --> 00:57:13.789
blaming me? I don't post on the YouTube. What

00:57:13.789 --> 00:57:15.429
I do is the original content of me in the car.

00:57:15.570 --> 00:57:18.349
We can't get in trouble for that. But what the

00:57:18.349 --> 00:57:24.340
hell's going on here? See that? See the car's

00:57:24.340 --> 00:57:29.960
like, what? Hey, Brick Squad, if you want to

00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:33.480
support Brick Squad, feel free to hit the cash

00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:35.599
app, Brick Squad. Dollar sign is that your face.

00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:39.619
Dollar sign is that your face, Brick Squad. Yeah,

00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:44.260
yeah. Hit the cash app. I'll just say hit the

00:57:44.260 --> 00:57:46.300
cash app. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I just saw

00:57:46.300 --> 00:57:50.309
the... gayest comment in the history of brunch

00:57:50.309 --> 00:57:56.369
boxing. No, no, no, no, no. Wait, we can't use

00:57:56.369 --> 00:57:57.869
the word gay on brunch boxing? And you wonder

00:57:57.869 --> 00:58:00.769
why you gotta send this apology? You wonder why

00:58:00.769 --> 00:58:03.369
you gotta send this apology? I'm just hoping

00:58:03.369 --> 00:58:09.530
that Huey just does it. Hey, please. Guys, please

00:58:09.530 --> 00:58:12.940
put this comment up here. Please. Okay, here

00:58:12.940 --> 00:58:16.480
we go. It says laughing my fucking Ezra. Hold

00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:18.420
on, hold on, hold on. Listen. It says, well,

00:58:18.500 --> 00:58:21.260
I'm not hitting up Matt's cash app. I want it

00:58:21.260 --> 00:58:25.900
all for King Ezra. Ezra, I want you to know that

00:58:25.900 --> 00:58:27.639
a comment is coming from a guy named Brick Squad.

00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:41.739
Hey, more like bricked up. You two, don't worry.

00:58:41.820 --> 00:58:46.579
I'll be sending that apology. Exactly. Now you

00:58:46.579 --> 00:58:51.920
know what to apologize for. You guys, it's like,

00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.360
you know, people realize that we're like, oh,

00:58:54.380 --> 00:58:56.019
man, we're building this brand. It's going to

00:58:56.019 --> 00:58:58.599
be so great. And then that guy starts, whoa,

00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:00.679
whoa, whoa. It's like, hey, whoa, whoa. We got

00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:02.920
to, you know. Hey, you know what I realized,

00:59:03.059 --> 00:59:06.860
Ezra? I think me doing a rundown every week.

00:59:07.449 --> 00:59:09.969
It's to keep me from being who I really want

00:59:09.969 --> 00:59:14.269
to be on the show. It's to keep Matt on track.

00:59:14.610 --> 00:59:17.809
Yeah, he gets off the rails and the show's just

00:59:17.809 --> 00:59:20.489
chaos. Every time there's been a break, I've

00:59:20.489 --> 00:59:22.010
been like, what else do you have for the show,

00:59:22.030 --> 00:59:24.610
Matt? I've been trying to keep it on the rails.

00:59:25.550 --> 00:59:30.349
I read that comment and I went over it. I almost

00:59:30.349 --> 00:59:32.269
thought about hiding it just so Matt didn't see

00:59:32.269 --> 00:59:34.150
it. You should have. You should have hit that

00:59:34.150 --> 00:59:37.090
bad boy. Hey, you know what? Sometimes I can't

00:59:37.090 --> 00:59:39.849
help but bring back the MVO flavor to Brunch

00:59:39.849 --> 00:59:47.590
Boxing. Oh, man. That's who I thought I signed

00:59:47.590 --> 00:59:49.670
up for. I thought I signed up Brunch Boxing for.

00:59:51.050 --> 00:59:59.590
Oh, shit. Oh, shit. That is fucking hilarious.

01:00:00.250 --> 01:00:02.769
You got any quick hits for the day? No, no. Fuck

01:00:02.769 --> 01:00:04.610
the quick hits. Let's go. I still want to talk

01:00:04.610 --> 01:00:07.300
about this PBC stuff. There's a lot to unpack

01:00:07.300 --> 01:00:10.239
here. Because Gary Antoine Russell is going to

01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:13.980
have to come back. Okay? Do we see him coming

01:00:13.980 --> 01:00:18.639
back against anybody significant? Is JB still

01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:22.539
with us? Yes, I am. You are the Russell Whisperer.

01:00:22.539 --> 01:00:24.579
You tell us what's going on with these Russells.

01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.480
I'm not the Russell Whisperer because I have

01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:32.320
not heard anything from them in over a month.

01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:37.059
It looked like they were Like, he was in line

01:00:37.059 --> 01:00:41.860
to be fighting Eastside Pitbull Cruz, but as

01:00:41.860 --> 01:00:44.019
of right now, it doesn't seem like anything has

01:00:44.019 --> 01:00:48.059
been, you know, done yet. So, I don't know what's

01:00:48.059 --> 01:00:52.860
going on. And, you know, given what has happened

01:00:52.860 --> 01:00:56.039
over the past few weeks, I'm not, you know, liking

01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:58.440
what's going, you know, the movements, man, or,

01:00:58.460 --> 01:01:01.840
you know, what's been said. Because you wouldn't

01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:04.880
expect that from Gary Antoine Russell. especially

01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:06.860
from what he was saying, like, you know, the

01:01:06.860 --> 01:01:09.800
past couple of years. So what's going on right

01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:13.019
now? I'm, you know, I don't understand it at

01:01:13.019 --> 01:01:20.199
all. You know, the one thing that I would, if

01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.440
I can have it my way, right. If I ran the zoo,

01:01:22.539 --> 01:01:27.400
like Mr. Magoo. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Isn't

01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:30.940
it Gerald? Mr. Magoo is someone completely different.

01:01:31.369 --> 01:01:33.909
Okay. Yes, he is. You know what? You are Mr.

01:01:34.050 --> 01:01:38.250
Magoo, actually, Ezra. But if you ran the zoo

01:01:38.250 --> 01:01:42.489
like Gerald Magoo. Yes, Gerald Magoo, man. If

01:01:42.489 --> 01:01:47.789
I ran the zoo like Mr. Magoo, I would give PBC

01:01:47.789 --> 01:01:51.530
a TNT date, and I would put Pitbull versus Russell.

01:01:52.550 --> 01:01:56.250
It's a fight that, to me, you got Pitbull, who

01:01:56.250 --> 01:01:59.510
is a star. Russell, who's a rising star, and

01:01:59.510 --> 01:02:02.469
you got two styles that really, literally cannot

01:02:02.469 --> 01:02:03.909
disappoint if they get in the ring with each

01:02:03.909 --> 01:02:06.530
other. It'd be a violent fight, it'd be an entertaining

01:02:06.530 --> 01:02:09.849
fight, and it'd be a guy that wins that's going

01:02:09.849 --> 01:02:12.750
to have a lot in front of him. That's what I

01:02:12.750 --> 01:02:17.809
would hope that would happen next. Yeah, I need

01:02:17.809 --> 01:02:20.909
to see him fight somebody interesting. I need

01:02:20.909 --> 01:02:22.889
to see him fight somebody interesting. I just

01:02:22.889 --> 01:02:26.710
want to see him back in the ring. Yeah. I'm glad

01:02:26.710 --> 01:02:30.909
he is finally fighting two times this year. Yeah,

01:02:30.929 --> 01:02:37.969
exactly. You have a performance like he had against

01:02:37.969 --> 01:02:40.929
Ryo Valenzuela last year and then not get back

01:02:40.929 --> 01:02:44.690
in the ring until the following February or whatever

01:02:44.690 --> 01:02:47.130
it was. Yeah, at least this time he's fighting

01:02:47.130 --> 01:02:50.309
twice. You know, I would like to see, because

01:02:50.309 --> 01:02:56.579
I've noticed that PBC has signed some guys. and

01:02:56.579 --> 01:02:59.300
not announced it like under the radar, like Albert

01:02:59.300 --> 01:03:03.679
Bell. Right. And obviously Tomoki Kameda's with

01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:05.719
them. Maybe he's with them the whole time. I

01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.320
know he's with them now. I would like to see

01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:13.440
them sign a few guys. You know, I want to see

01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:20.039
them sign a Rashidi Ellis, you know, who is going

01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:25.409
to be the official Birchbox fighter. Duke Reagan

01:03:25.409 --> 01:03:31.110
is with PBC. Abel Mendoza is with PBC. So there's

01:03:31.110 --> 01:03:34.170
going to be a lot of matchups put on these cards.

01:03:34.690 --> 01:03:37.489
When people saw these four fights, they thought

01:03:37.489 --> 01:03:39.650
that's the fight and that's the main event and

01:03:39.650 --> 01:03:41.849
that's it. No, these are just four fights that

01:03:41.849 --> 01:03:44.590
are going to happen this year. But not all of

01:03:44.590 --> 01:03:46.030
them are necessarily the main events. There's

01:03:46.030 --> 01:03:48.210
going to be a lot of different fights that happen

01:03:48.210 --> 01:03:52.550
this year. And please do not forget that Charlo's

01:03:52.550 --> 01:03:56.559
are coming back also. Jamel Charlo mainly because

01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:58.920
Jamal, he's already fighting in Australia. But

01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:01.880
Jamel Charlo is coming back this year also. So

01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:03.960
that's going to be another guy added to the mix.

01:04:05.099 --> 01:04:08.059
Honestly, I'm very excited to see what PBC does

01:04:08.059 --> 01:04:10.760
for the rest of the year. Yeah, and I think with

01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:14.119
that deal with DAZN, I think that does open the

01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:16.780
door for them to have more events that could

01:04:16.780 --> 01:04:21.519
just be on DAZN and not really have to worry

01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:25.309
about. seeing if amazon prime is going to accept

01:04:25.309 --> 01:04:28.489
it like the zone they may be more lenient in

01:04:28.489 --> 01:04:30.690
events that are put together because they just

01:04:30.690 --> 01:04:35.489
want the content so you you'll see more uh events

01:04:35.489 --> 01:04:38.789
coming from you know pvc or tgb or whatever it

01:04:38.789 --> 01:04:42.269
is here you know before the end of the year yeah

01:04:42.269 --> 01:04:44.289
instead of just pay -per -views yeah i think

01:04:44.289 --> 01:04:46.230
the zone just wants to stack a schedule you know

01:04:46.230 --> 01:04:47.429
i mean they just want to put a schedule together

01:04:47.429 --> 01:04:49.719
that's consistent you know, they have this whole,

01:04:49.739 --> 01:04:51.679
you know, Saturday nights are for fights or whatever.

01:04:51.780 --> 01:04:53.900
So it seems like they're trying to have something,

01:04:53.940 --> 01:05:00.920
uh, something going at all times. Yeah. Yeah.

01:05:01.219 --> 01:05:09.679
I think, uh, man, PBC, man, how has completely

01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:11.559
frozen over? First of all, people sees with the

01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:14.460
zone. Okay. Who, whoever thought we would see

01:05:14.460 --> 01:05:18.920
that, but all right. Let me ask you a question,

01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:23.119
Ezra. And I don't want to start trouble. Who

01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:26.239
does this PBC, DAZN deal help more, PBC or DAZN?

01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:31.800
That's actually a great question. I'm going to

01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:35.300
say it helps PBC. I'm going to say it helps PBC

01:05:35.300 --> 01:05:38.780
more because what PBC needs is to have a more

01:05:38.780 --> 01:05:40.340
consistent schedule where they get more opportunities

01:05:40.340 --> 01:05:43.710
to put their fighters out there. And I think

01:05:43.710 --> 01:05:46.289
that, I keep emphasizing this, but DAZN does

01:05:46.289 --> 01:05:48.449
have the TNC connection now. And I do think that's

01:05:48.449 --> 01:05:51.369
a big thing. And that they could put PBC fighters

01:05:51.369 --> 01:05:54.670
on the, give PBC the opportunity on DAZN as well

01:05:54.670 --> 01:05:57.670
to build their fighters as well. The positives

01:05:57.670 --> 01:06:02.010
that come with PBC though on DAZN that DAZN would

01:06:02.010 --> 01:06:05.550
get is they have a promoter that really does

01:06:05.550 --> 01:06:07.849
know the U .S. market and knows how to make big

01:06:07.849 --> 01:06:09.690
events in the U .S. market. The one thing...

01:06:10.309 --> 01:06:12.369
Matt, you always said was if this is going to

01:06:12.369 --> 01:06:14.190
work with Turkey taking over, you have to get

01:06:14.190 --> 01:06:16.789
with the PBC, right? In the U .S. market, that's

01:06:16.789 --> 01:06:20.289
like the key. And I think that's still true.

01:06:20.690 --> 01:06:23.369
And I think that if PBC can get more consistent

01:06:23.369 --> 01:06:26.449
scheduling, that you're going to see what they

01:06:26.449 --> 01:06:29.110
can do with their fighters. That is just different

01:06:29.110 --> 01:06:31.650
than everybody else in the U .S. market. Well,

01:06:31.670 --> 01:06:34.889
not just with their fighters. I'm actually curious

01:06:34.889 --> 01:06:41.630
to see. How many new subscriptions is PBC going

01:06:41.630 --> 01:06:45.230
to drive to the zone with their events? That's

01:06:45.230 --> 01:06:50.750
the real key. Because to me, if PBC does what

01:06:50.750 --> 01:06:53.289
we know they're capable of doing, what they've

01:06:53.289 --> 01:06:56.869
been doing over the years, no matter who's in

01:06:56.869 --> 01:06:59.090
charge, no matter what the budget is, they've

01:06:59.090 --> 01:07:02.289
been delivering consistent, excellent fights.

01:07:03.829 --> 01:07:08.039
If PBC... can drive subscriptions to the zone,

01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:13.579
who's to say they're not going to get the biggest

01:07:13.579 --> 01:07:16.539
budget at the zone? Because the zone wants to

01:07:16.539 --> 01:07:19.280
bang for their buck. The zone wants to drive

01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:21.539
subscriptions. So if you have someone who you

01:07:21.539 --> 01:07:23.760
know can drive, because, I mean, let's be honest,

01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:28.380
Matchroom, Queensbury, Golden Boy, you know,

01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:30.559
they haven't exactly been driving subscriptions.

01:07:30.659 --> 01:07:33.719
It seems like the zone has been stagnant over

01:07:33.719 --> 01:07:40.710
the years. But with PBC, let's see. Yeah, I think

01:07:40.710 --> 01:07:43.190
that's it. And if you're a person that orders

01:07:43.190 --> 01:07:47.110
consistently PBC pay -per -views, right, then,

01:07:47.110 --> 01:07:52.190
you know, it is kind of a deal to get that subscription,

01:07:52.570 --> 01:07:54.829
right? Like you pay 44 and you get all the events

01:07:54.829 --> 01:07:59.269
for every fight, basically, promotion. And the

01:07:59.269 --> 01:08:01.309
PBC ones, I think that is actually kind of, you

01:08:01.309 --> 01:08:03.030
kind of started making that like, yeah, that's

01:08:03.030 --> 01:08:06.829
not too bad of a deal. I mean, you have their

01:08:06.829 --> 01:08:09.670
DAZN Ultimate subscription, you know, that people

01:08:09.670 --> 01:08:12.829
can invest in. But, you know, PBC is going to

01:08:12.829 --> 01:08:16.369
drive, you know, the American market because

01:08:16.369 --> 01:08:20.369
right now that's kind of been DAZN's focus or

01:08:20.369 --> 01:08:23.270
concern is that they don't necessarily have the

01:08:23.270 --> 01:08:27.369
U .S. subscribers that they will want. So I think

01:08:27.369 --> 01:08:30.170
PBC, you know, having PBC events on there would

01:08:30.170 --> 01:08:32.449
definitely help that. And seeing if they could

01:08:32.449 --> 01:08:34.949
grow, you know, up to around what they want,

01:08:35.010 --> 01:08:40.270
like 650 to 750 ,000 U .S. subscribers, I think

01:08:40.270 --> 01:08:43.270
is what their goal is. So that, you know, is

01:08:43.270 --> 01:08:45.289
a great move towards, you know, getting what

01:08:45.289 --> 01:08:48.329
they want. And plus, PBC is going to have the

01:08:48.329 --> 01:08:52.930
guy that fights in May and September. So it just

01:08:52.930 --> 01:08:58.090
makes sense. I think the zone really got away

01:08:58.090 --> 01:09:00.310
with robbery. It's like one of your fantasy trades,

01:09:00.409 --> 01:09:07.329
man. This one really got over. They got the best

01:09:07.329 --> 01:09:10.989
worker in the business. So I was like, man, you

01:09:10.989 --> 01:09:16.369
know. Good for them. Oh, man. So let's review

01:09:16.369 --> 01:09:22.390
the PBC announcement when it came to DAZN. Because

01:09:22.390 --> 01:09:31.310
I want Ezra to book the damn territory. Okay.

01:09:31.510 --> 01:09:39.689
Okay. So they announced as part of the subscription,

01:09:40.050 --> 01:09:44.409
David Benavidez. That was the first name. Okay.

01:09:44.449 --> 01:09:49.010
What is the path for David Benavidez in 2026,

01:09:49.329 --> 01:09:57.189
I guess, 2027? Okay. 2026, it's going to be tough.

01:09:57.390 --> 01:10:00.300
There's not a lot of options there. You guys

01:10:00.300 --> 01:10:02.020
aren't going to like my path. I already know

01:10:02.020 --> 01:10:05.420
it now, but I'm going to keep saying it. You

01:10:05.420 --> 01:10:07.979
get David Benavidez in the heavyweight. We end

01:10:07.979 --> 01:10:10.380
the year, David Benavidez debuts at heavyweight.

01:10:10.460 --> 01:10:13.000
And I'm going to be honest, versus anyone. Lower

01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.359
level, doesn't matter. You just get him in there,

01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:17.579
you debut him at heavyweight. You know, who just

01:10:17.579 --> 01:10:22.180
signed with Mattroom? Andy Ruiz. You work your

01:10:22.180 --> 01:10:23.739
way to that Andy Ruiz fight, which I've been

01:10:23.739 --> 01:10:27.529
saying for a long time. That's a big fight. Andrew

01:10:27.529 --> 01:10:29.810
Ruiz gets a tune -up, David Benavidez gets his

01:10:29.810 --> 01:10:34.649
feet wet, and in early 2027, we get David Benavidez

01:10:34.649 --> 01:10:38.029
versus Andrew Ruiz for a heavyweight fight, for

01:10:38.029 --> 01:10:41.029
a mega fight, for a fight that every Mexican

01:10:41.029 --> 01:10:42.489
in the world will pay attention to because you

01:10:42.489 --> 01:10:44.149
have two Mexican heavyweights fighting each other.

01:10:44.210 --> 01:10:46.630
It's fantastic. The whole food community will

01:10:46.630 --> 01:10:50.930
be in on this bad boy. David Benavidez's path

01:10:50.930 --> 01:10:53.050
to superstardom, to being the face of boxing.

01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:55.979
You may not like it or not, but sometimes, like

01:10:55.979 --> 01:10:59.279
I said, you can't choose. You can't choose your

01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:01.680
fate. You can only choose how you meet it. And

01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:05.439
to meet it is right. David Benavidez's path to

01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:07.779
the face of boxing is the heavyweight division.

01:11:08.100 --> 01:11:11.319
Now, what do you do with him in 2026? You just

01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:13.140
debut him at heavyweight. And you could be, and

01:11:13.140 --> 01:11:16.260
I literally mean. So, you know, so we're not

01:11:16.260 --> 01:11:18.380
doing the unification with McKinley in that.

01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:22.020
Jesus, no. Jesus, no. We're not doing a Baturbia

01:11:22.020 --> 01:11:26.039
fight next. You know what you ask Yoel? That's

01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:28.239
his name, right? Yoel McKinnon? Can you make

01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:31.539
heavyweight? That's what you ask him. Hey, can

01:11:31.539 --> 01:11:34.140
you make heavyweight? Because you are going to

01:11:34.140 --> 01:11:35.680
heavyweight. You are going to fight someone in

01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:37.439
heavyweight. You're going to debut a heavyweight.

01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:39.159
And it's not going to be a big name. It's just

01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:40.779
going to be, hey, David Benavidez is a heavyweight

01:11:40.779 --> 01:11:43.779
now. That's your selling point. Then it's Andy.

01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:48.460
Then it's Big Baby. Then it starts getting real

01:11:48.460 --> 01:11:51.060
interesting from that point. So you would want...

01:11:51.420 --> 01:11:55.100
David Benavidez to fight a 300 -pound guy. Yes.

01:11:56.140 --> 01:12:01.720
100%. 100%. The tough man competition. What are

01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:05.960
we doing here? Oh, man. Listen, if you ain't

01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:08.920
got a vision, then put on the glasses. That's

01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:10.000
what I'm going to tell you right now. Because

01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.460
this is what the vision is. This is money. This

01:12:12.460 --> 01:12:14.739
is printing money. This is super startup. And

01:12:14.739 --> 01:12:18.899
you know what? I believe David can do it. Well,

01:12:18.979 --> 01:12:23.579
my vision... for David Benavidez is Artur Baturbiev

01:12:23.579 --> 01:12:26.600
in his first fight back. Okay, well, let's say

01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:28.640
Baturbiev is willing to take that. I have my

01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:32.300
doubts. Yeah, well, wait. Cruiserweight. Cruiserweight.

01:12:34.579 --> 01:12:38.939
Dan is Cruiserweight champion. But why do you

01:12:38.939 --> 01:12:40.859
have your doubts that Baturbiev will take that

01:12:40.859 --> 01:12:45.659
fight? No actions he's done have shown me that

01:12:45.659 --> 01:12:48.100
he wants to take that fight. No, actually, he

01:12:48.100 --> 01:12:50.199
told me he really wants to take any tough fight

01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:52.600
outside of a Bovo fight that was going to get

01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:54.560
paid by some money that didn't actually exist

01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:59.680
in Russia. Okay, so I don't believe that Bertovia

01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:02.119
wants any fight besides Bovo, and I think he's

01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:03.880
closer to retirement than he is from having another

01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:09.619
fight. Interesting. Second name that was mentioned

01:13:09.619 --> 01:13:13.319
in the press release, Errol Spence Jr. We know

01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:16.539
he comes back on July 25th this month to face

01:13:16.539 --> 01:13:22.260
Tim Zhu. We assume he's going to win. Okay. If

01:13:22.260 --> 01:13:25.600
he wins, what do we want to see for Errol Spence?

01:13:25.939 --> 01:13:27.479
First of all, do we want to see him again in

01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:31.460
2026? I don't know. No. No, I think it would

01:13:31.460 --> 01:13:35.439
be 2027. But I want to see, well, like I said,

01:13:35.460 --> 01:13:36.659
I don't know if I want to see this, but this

01:13:36.659 --> 01:13:39.100
is if I was managing, if I own, you know, ran

01:13:39.100 --> 01:13:42.140
the zoo like Gerald McGrew, is his name? Yes.

01:13:42.940 --> 01:13:45.539
Who is Jerome McGrew, by the way? He's the guy

01:13:45.539 --> 01:13:48.760
that runs the zoo. Here's what I would do. Dr.

01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:52.739
Seuss. Wasn't a big Dr. Seuss fan, for obvious

01:13:52.739 --> 01:14:02.690
reasons. Now, okay. Because you can't read. Oh,

01:14:02.690 --> 01:14:07.510
man. That was... They could try to knock me down.

01:14:07.510 --> 01:14:10.130
They could try to knock me down, but we stay

01:14:10.130 --> 01:14:14.109
standing. Okay. Here's the thing, right? What

01:14:14.109 --> 01:14:16.510
I would do for Ospence, if he wins, I think the

01:14:16.510 --> 01:14:20.970
obvious fight to me is Fundora. Now, as a fan,

01:14:21.069 --> 01:14:22.890
from my point of view, it's not necessarily what

01:14:22.890 --> 01:14:25.989
I want. But if you win, you have to go after

01:14:25.989 --> 01:14:28.449
the guy that's at the top of the... that you

01:14:28.449 --> 01:14:32.899
have on your side of the division. So I think

01:14:32.899 --> 01:14:35.659
that's the fight you go with. Why? Well, Errol

01:14:35.659 --> 01:14:44.239
Spence is a big name in boxing. I think people

01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:46.600
forget this, how big of a star he is. And with

01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:48.520
the win over Zoo, you get the buzz going again.

01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:51.699
With the win over Zoo, you get people start believing

01:14:51.699 --> 01:14:55.960
again. Correct. And you say, you know what? Maybe

01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:57.680
he ran to Terrence Crawford, but these guys ain't

01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.500
Terrence Crawford. And maybe if it's not Terrence

01:15:00.500 --> 01:15:02.520
Crawford, well, Maybe it's the same Earl Spence

01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:05.199
that was dominant before. And then you start

01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:07.859
getting the buzzes like Fandora, who we see as

01:15:07.859 --> 01:15:11.579
a guy that could be maybe a dominant freak of

01:15:11.579 --> 01:15:14.619
nature. But maybe we go back to what we were

01:15:14.619 --> 01:15:16.199
thinking before, that he didn't have a chance

01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:18.319
against Earl Spence. And maybe that's where people

01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:19.960
start believing that this is a good matchup.

01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:22.520
You send that to Texas, you get Earl Spence back

01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:24.960
in front of his fans, you get Earl Spence back

01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:27.319
in a sold -out house, and you get Earl Spence's

01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:36.729
star of boxing back fighting for a title. Can

01:15:36.729 --> 01:15:38.489
I tell you why? You guys don't believe in Errol

01:15:38.489 --> 01:15:43.010
Spence right now. We do. No, no, no. But if he

01:15:43.010 --> 01:15:45.670
beats you, I promise you, if he beats you, then

01:15:45.670 --> 01:15:47.590
the people will be talking about, oh, he's back.

01:15:47.810 --> 01:15:50.529
He's going to beat all the... You don't believe

01:15:50.529 --> 01:15:55.210
in him yet. And I'm not sure I do. We do believe

01:15:55.210 --> 01:15:59.539
in Errol Spence, but... Errol Spence is, as they

01:15:59.539 --> 01:16:04.560
say, a big event guy. And Matt, what do you like

01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:10.760
most in boxing? Big events. Okay, so after this

01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:15.100
fight against Tim Zhu, you know, I don't think

01:16:15.100 --> 01:16:18.340
that could be the next direction there for Errol

01:16:18.340 --> 01:16:21.399
Spence Jr., but Matt, you booked the territory.

01:16:22.340 --> 01:16:26.079
Or, you know, you run the zoo like Gerald McGrew.

01:16:26.380 --> 01:16:30.859
Because after Tim's zoo, who would you like to

01:16:30.859 --> 01:16:33.300
see Errol Spence fight next? For a second there,

01:16:33.340 --> 01:16:35.180
you couldn't stop rhyming. I'm just going to

01:16:35.180 --> 01:16:36.600
tell you that. For a second there, everything

01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:41.500
rhymed. Give me Jamal Charles or Virgil Ortiz.

01:16:41.579 --> 01:16:44.640
Uh -huh. And that's what we mean by big events,

01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:49.020
okay? All right, I don't mind either of those.

01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:50.119
I don't mind either of those. What do you mean

01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:52.659
those are great matches? Those are entertaining.

01:16:53.100 --> 01:16:55.199
I didn't think about Pandora. That is a great

01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:58.340
event right there. What about the, damn. Y 'all

01:16:58.340 --> 01:17:00.399
said everybody but a unified champion at 154.

01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:02.720
What y 'all want to see? Y 'all said everybody

01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:05.680
but a unified champion. Don't want to see boots,

01:17:05.819 --> 01:17:07.779
right? No, I don't want to see boots right now.

01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:10.260
I want to see that. Oh, y 'all protecting him?

01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.579
Y 'all protecting him? They're protecting him.

01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:19.220
Come on, man. Come on. They got Eddie Hearn matchmaking.

01:17:19.380 --> 01:17:21.659
You see Eddie Hearn matchmaking? That's protection

01:17:21.659 --> 01:17:26.500
plan, man. The additional voice of the Sunday

01:17:26.500 --> 01:17:29.020
morning sermon, the host of the RNS podcast,

01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:31.739
T .Y. Mr. Keep It 100 Boxing. Welcome to the

01:17:31.739 --> 01:17:34.100
show. And I come and keep it 100, man. Listen,

01:17:34.260 --> 01:17:38.319
like I said, I get it. If Earl were to fight

01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:40.340
Virgil, that's a big event down there. I get

01:17:40.340 --> 01:17:41.859
it. But, you know, you don't want to fight the

01:17:41.859 --> 01:17:43.680
unified champion from Philadelphia. I get it.

01:17:43.739 --> 01:17:47.399
I get it. I get it. That's not a bigger event

01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:50.539
than those two matches. I get it. Okay. Okay.

01:17:50.539 --> 01:17:53.920
Go for it. Okay. I don't know about that. Okay.

01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:55.319
I don't know about that. I'm going to be truthful

01:17:55.319 --> 01:17:58.279
with you. That's not a bigger event. Okay. Let's

01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:01.479
see. Bigger event or bigger ass whooping? Which

01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:02.979
one are you talking about? I don't know what

01:18:02.979 --> 01:18:04.920
he's talking about, Ty. We're talking about big

01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:08.380
events here. I'm sorry. Boots doesn't qualify

01:18:08.380 --> 01:18:13.260
yet. He's getting there. He's my guy. I used

01:18:13.260 --> 01:18:15.180
to take criticism because I had him on my P4P

01:18:15.180 --> 01:18:18.020
for a long time, but I knew who he was. Yeah,

01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:20.479
but Virgil a big event, right? Dude did 3 ,000

01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:23.819
tickets in his hometown. He did 3 ,000 tickets.

01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:30.819
Get the fuck out of here. Listen, they know what

01:18:30.819 --> 01:18:36.079
PBC is going to sell different. I know. Oscar

01:18:36.079 --> 01:18:39.199
knows when he's working with PBC, it's different.

01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:47.079
Oh, my God. You got to deal with this. What's

01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:51.239
up, fellas? Matt, who else you got? All right.

01:18:52.699 --> 01:18:56.279
The next name on the list, the aforementioned

01:18:56.279 --> 01:19:02.680
Sebastian Pandora. I want to see him unify. We

01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:06.800
know he's fighting the mandatory next. After

01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:09.460
the mandatory, what did you immediately want

01:19:09.460 --> 01:19:16.300
to see from him? Did Ezra freeze? Yes, he did.

01:19:16.739 --> 01:19:18.380
Yeah, it looks like it. You know, I want the

01:19:18.380 --> 01:19:20.359
winner of Spence and Ortiz, man, for Pandora.

01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:23.260
That's what I want. Oh, my God. Everybody, the

01:19:23.260 --> 01:19:25.300
boots. You see this shit? And then the winner

01:19:25.300 --> 01:19:28.380
gets boots. No, no, T .Y., this is where I'm

01:19:28.380 --> 01:19:31.079
with you. I want boots. And then the winner gets

01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:34.350
boots. The other side has to work hard too, Ty.

01:19:34.630 --> 01:19:37.510
They can't just get a shot for not taking any

01:19:37.510 --> 01:19:42.310
matches. Remind me, how many belts is Boots going

01:19:42.310 --> 01:19:43.750
to have in that fight and how many Svendora are

01:19:43.750 --> 01:19:46.989
going to have in that fight? They're going to

01:19:46.989 --> 01:19:49.869
have a belt though, right? Boots is going to

01:19:49.869 --> 01:19:53.729
have two though, so who did more work? No, I'm

01:19:53.729 --> 01:19:56.149
saying the people to fight Boots. I would feel

01:19:56.149 --> 01:19:58.369
better about it if Boots came into the fight

01:19:58.369 --> 01:20:01.800
with three belts. No one said Bruce is not doing

01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:03.880
work. The guys were going to fight him. He could

01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:05.539
fight Josh Kelly, but that doesn't mean that

01:20:05.539 --> 01:20:08.060
after Fundora fights his mandatory, that can't

01:20:08.060 --> 01:20:13.899
be the next fight for both of them. The way Mike

01:20:13.899 --> 01:20:17.680
is booking territory, he will turn Bruce Fundora

01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:20.260
into the biggest fight in boxing. These guys

01:20:20.260 --> 01:20:22.840
don't know how to make big events, man. He said

01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:28.060
he wants to see him fight Spence next. The one

01:20:28.060 --> 01:20:30.329
that Spence versus Virgil. Which means that's

01:20:30.329 --> 01:20:32.850
going to be another bigger vessel. What's he

01:20:32.850 --> 01:20:36.569
doing between now and then? He just said he's

01:20:36.569 --> 01:20:41.289
going to fight Josh Kelly. He's earned a right,

01:20:41.390 --> 01:20:44.829
like I said, to even get a little break fight.

01:20:45.010 --> 01:20:46.630
You know what I mean? He's earned that right

01:20:46.630 --> 01:20:50.909
two boots already. To have a big fight, then

01:20:50.909 --> 01:20:53.970
a regular fight, then a big fight. What was Luis

01:20:53.970 --> 01:21:00.539
Malema? Come on, Mike. That was a debut. Stay

01:21:00.539 --> 01:21:04.220
busy, fight. Now, here's the thing. Why can't

01:21:04.220 --> 01:21:07.100
we have Boots fight Josh Kelly in the meantime

01:21:07.100 --> 01:21:13.279
and then fight Jamal Trotter? I like that, too.

01:21:15.699 --> 01:21:19.340
And the winner gets the winner? I like that.

01:21:20.060 --> 01:21:22.720
Sign us up, man. We got this all figured out

01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:26.819
already. He gonna fight Boots in Philly? Say

01:21:26.819 --> 01:21:29.319
whatever Boots wants of that. All right, because

01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:33.000
- Whatever he wants of that. He ain't got no

01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:35.300
say over nothing. Whatever he wants of that,

01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:45.960
man. Why you think it's all small time? Oh, look

01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:49.920
who it is. My phone overheated. I didn't see

01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:51.479
anything like it. It said the phone - Too bad,

01:21:51.779 --> 01:21:55.739
I had to switch you and Ezra. We lost T .Y. for

01:21:55.739 --> 01:21:57.819
a second. T .Y. joined back. The phone overheated?

01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:02.060
The phone overheated. How hard it is to do this

01:22:02.060 --> 01:22:04.340
show on the road. But the phone literally overheated.

01:22:04.420 --> 01:22:07.439
I had to start the car, move to a different spot

01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:09.279
where there was a little bit more shade because

01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:12.199
the phone overheated. Does your car not have

01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:14.539
an air conditioner? Yeah, but it didn't overheat

01:22:14.539 --> 01:22:16.399
because it's hot in the car. It overheated because

01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:18.819
the sun was hitting on it. This is not an easy

01:22:18.819 --> 01:22:21.579
show to do on the road. What is your air conditioner

01:22:21.579 --> 01:22:23.779
on? Of course, of course. What do you think,

01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:27.300
I'm going to burn up in here? Because here's

01:22:27.300 --> 01:22:31.380
the thing. Before we started the show, you said

01:22:31.380 --> 01:22:33.399
you found a spot with a lot of shade on this

01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:38.199
perfect road that wasn't ticketing people after

01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:41.479
8 o 'clock. You know, the thing about shade is

01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:44.100
it shifts. That's the interesting thing about

01:22:44.100 --> 01:22:46.760
shade. It's never consistent. You know, I just

01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:50.000
realized I live right next to a post office.

01:22:50.100 --> 01:22:51.159
I didn't even know this post office was this

01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:53.250
close. It's a really convenient post office right

01:22:53.250 --> 01:22:55.930
here. Okay, we can continue with the show. Who

01:22:55.930 --> 01:22:57.449
you got for Fundora? Do you actually use post

01:22:57.449 --> 01:22:59.930
offices? Oh, I use post office all the time.

01:23:01.590 --> 01:23:05.090
Book the territory for Fundora as? Oh, for Fundora?

01:23:06.130 --> 01:23:09.789
For Fundora, I would get in the middle of all

01:23:09.789 --> 01:23:12.409
this action. I would do whatever it takes to

01:23:12.409 --> 01:23:16.039
get a Boots fight, a Virgil fight. And if I could

01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:18.239
go get Kelly, if that even takes going to the

01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:20.739
UK, I go fight in the UK, you can't go take Kelly's

01:23:20.739 --> 01:23:23.020
belt. I would get in the middle of all this action

01:23:23.020 --> 01:23:25.500
because you have done all the fights, so you

01:23:25.500 --> 01:23:27.699
need to build your whatever you're doing here.

01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:30.840
Stay busy fights, tuna fight, all these things,

01:23:30.939 --> 01:23:32.800
they're all being done. Now it's time to get

01:23:32.800 --> 01:23:35.359
to work. So I would get the Virgil fight first.

01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:38.020
Then I would go after a Boots fight. And then

01:23:38.020 --> 01:23:40.159
I would go to prove I'm the best man in the division,

01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:41.880
which I don't think is out of the question for

01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:43.359
him. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going

01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:44.939
to have my criticism of the matchmaking. I have

01:23:44.939 --> 01:23:47.380
my criticism on his want for these fights. But

01:23:47.380 --> 01:23:49.960
I think that he's a hell of a fighter. I do think

01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:53.899
that he has improved considerably on fighting

01:23:53.899 --> 01:23:56.279
at a distance, at keeping a distance. And I do

01:23:56.279 --> 01:24:02.310
think that makes him a lot more dangerous. Yeah,

01:24:02.310 --> 01:24:05.109
let's get to the next name on the list. After

01:24:05.109 --> 01:24:10.430
Sebastian Fedora is Isak Pitbull Cruz. Ezra,

01:24:10.550 --> 01:24:12.869
what are we doing with him? So I already said

01:24:12.869 --> 01:24:15.289
Antoine Russell. I want that on TNT. I think

01:24:15.289 --> 01:24:18.109
that's a hell of a fight. I think that, you know,

01:24:18.109 --> 01:24:19.810
the one thing that Chris did not have for Pitbull

01:24:19.810 --> 01:24:21.649
was I did not think that the matchmaking was

01:24:21.649 --> 01:24:22.970
great for him. I thought he was kind of protected

01:24:22.970 --> 01:24:26.229
in a way. Now I think if he gets Russell, he's

01:24:26.229 --> 01:24:28.899
one of the... toughest match guys in boxing,

01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:31.159
honestly. But he's the kind of guy that could

01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:33.699
pull out that fight because, you know, Russell

01:24:33.699 --> 01:24:35.500
doesn't get hit. Russell doesn't get in exchanges,

01:24:35.699 --> 01:24:38.319
and Pitbull's a durable, hard -hitting guy, right?

01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:41.659
So that would be the next fight for him. If he

01:24:41.659 --> 01:24:44.340
gets out of that fight, then I look to match

01:24:44.340 --> 01:24:48.199
him up either with a tank, a really big name.

01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:51.039
So I would look maybe a tank fight. I would look

01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:52.880
for a Shakur fight if I could get it. I would

01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:57.859
match him up with one of those big names. No

01:24:57.859 --> 01:25:03.279
notes. Isak Pitbull Cruz, Lamont Roach, Omar

01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:07.380
Salcido, Angel Fierro, Rob Valenzuela, Roley

01:25:07.380 --> 01:25:10.880
Romero, Giovanni Cabrera, Eduardo Ramirez, Yurioca

01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:16.359
Gamboa, Javante Davis. Yeah, there's some names

01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:18.260
in there, of course. That's easy matchmaking?

01:25:18.739 --> 01:25:20.760
No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. You're going from

01:25:20.760 --> 01:25:22.399
what I said. I said when I started, there was

01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:24.460
a point of his career where there was easy matchmaking.

01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:27.680
At what point? At what point? Okay, let's start.

01:25:27.779 --> 01:25:31.100
Okay. Let's do this. Let's start from after the

01:25:31.100 --> 01:25:32.859
tank fight. Give me those fights from after the

01:25:32.859 --> 01:25:39.880
tank fight. Easy fight. Okay, go next one. Eduardo

01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:43.720
Ramirez. Eduardo Ramirez was 126 pounder. They

01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:49.920
moved up to 135. Giovanni Cabrera. Huh? Giovanni

01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:52.479
Cabrera. Yeah, Giovanni Cabrera. I will admit

01:25:52.479 --> 01:25:54.819
that that fight was tougher than it ended up,

01:25:54.819 --> 01:25:57.979
but that was not. That was not a like, oh man,

01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:00.319
this is a tough matchup for him. Okay, it ended

01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:03.779
up being a little bit tougher. But that's not

01:26:03.779 --> 01:26:05.239
a tough matchup. I'm sorry. That's not like a

01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:06.699
guy like, oh, this is a world. It was a tough

01:26:06.699 --> 01:26:08.600
matchup. Yeah, but it wasn't necessarily tough

01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:10.640
because Cabrera was that good. It was tough because

01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:12.760
Cabrera was tall and long. Yeah, it was just

01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:14.619
awkward. Thank you, Huey. Thank you, Huey. It

01:26:14.619 --> 01:26:16.800
was awkward. So, okay, go to the next fight.

01:26:16.899 --> 01:26:18.220
So, I think it gets tougher from this point.

01:26:18.300 --> 01:26:19.939
But this was my criticism point. Rob was like,

01:26:20.020 --> 01:26:22.699
what am I getting here with this guy? Now, from

01:26:22.699 --> 01:26:25.560
this point on. Roll the Romero. Yeah, so I'm

01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:27.600
saying from this point on, I respect the work.

01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:30.560
So you could have a point and be correct in a

01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:33.060
certain time frame, and then it changes. That's

01:26:33.060 --> 01:26:35.800
exactly what I just said is exactly what you

01:26:35.800 --> 01:26:37.699
just proven. So I don't know what the hell you

01:26:37.699 --> 01:26:39.020
thought you were doing mixing all these names

01:26:39.020 --> 01:26:41.359
together, but I'm glad that we elaborated on

01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:43.950
it so I can show you where you're wrong. But

01:26:43.950 --> 01:26:46.149
Giovanni Cabrera was a good matchup. Bro, Giovanni

01:26:46.149 --> 01:26:48.569
Cabrera, come on. Let's just call it what it

01:26:48.569 --> 01:26:50.310
is. Sometimes you just gotta call it what it

01:26:50.310 --> 01:26:53.170
is. Now, he's an awkward matchup. He's a style

01:26:53.170 --> 01:26:54.810
that people thought, like, oh, maybe he's something.

01:26:54.989 --> 01:26:57.449
Because he beat, what's his name from Stockton,

01:26:57.510 --> 01:27:01.149
okay? Like, Gabe Flores from Stockton. Gabe Flores

01:27:01.149 --> 01:27:04.449
ended up not being anything. Hold on, hold on.

01:27:04.770 --> 01:27:07.350
The same year that he beat Gabe Flores, he also

01:27:07.350 --> 01:27:11.170
beat Rene Tellez. Okay, that's fine. Who's still

01:27:11.170 --> 01:27:14.850
giving these 135 pounders work. Okay, okay, okay.

01:27:15.069 --> 01:27:18.050
Today. All right, man. Listen, let's just call

01:27:18.050 --> 01:27:19.430
it is what it is. I don't know. I don't know

01:27:19.430 --> 01:27:22.010
what to tell you. It was a good matchup. It was

01:27:22.010 --> 01:27:24.010
just an awkward matchup. And at that point, they

01:27:24.010 --> 01:27:24.989
thought he was going to run through the guy.

01:27:25.109 --> 01:27:27.630
And the fact that it's actually what it being

01:27:27.630 --> 01:27:29.529
was actually a disappointment. And we all know

01:27:29.529 --> 01:27:33.810
that. That's not true, but okay. But like I said,

01:27:34.010 --> 01:27:37.729
it is what it is. So for me, if I'm booking a

01:27:37.729 --> 01:27:41.159
territory. Sorry, Antoine. We're going with the

01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:44.300
tank fight. Isak Cruz is a minus 1100 favorite

01:27:44.300 --> 01:27:47.500
against Giovanni Cabrera. Yeah, of course. What

01:27:47.500 --> 01:27:53.819
does that mean? Tell me what that means. That

01:27:53.819 --> 01:27:56.100
means that it wasn't expected to be competitive.

01:27:57.340 --> 01:28:00.960
It was expected to be a mismatch and that Cruz

01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:02.500
was going to walk through him. That's what was

01:28:02.500 --> 01:28:04.880
expected. It was a disappointment that he didn't.

01:28:04.899 --> 01:28:06.920
It was a disappointment that he didn't walk through

01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:09.619
him. I know that betting odds are made so that

01:28:09.619 --> 01:28:11.760
way they're made to induce betting on both sides

01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:14.380
and minus 1100 doesn't induce betting on Cruz's

01:28:14.380 --> 01:28:17.100
side. No, excuse me. First of all, that's not

01:28:17.100 --> 01:28:20.380
true of boxing. We're boxing. A lot of these

01:28:20.380 --> 01:28:23.880
betting sites are not educated on boxing. So

01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:26.560
sometimes the fights are simply priced wrong.

01:28:27.340 --> 01:28:30.239
Well, first of all, that's actually not really

01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:31.819
true on boxing. Because boxing has been around

01:28:31.819 --> 01:28:35.600
forever. That is very true. Do you know how many

01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:41.369
times me and Boxer at grade just scour? Looking

01:28:41.369 --> 01:28:45.569
for fights. On a lower level, yes, but when you

01:28:45.569 --> 01:28:48.029
get to a higher caliber fighter, that doesn't

01:28:48.029 --> 01:28:49.569
happen as often. Are you talking about a club

01:28:49.569 --> 01:28:52.170
show in Massachusetts? Yeah, I'm sorry. Even

01:28:52.170 --> 01:28:57.510
when MVPs started doing these fucking women's

01:28:57.510 --> 01:29:01.189
shows, it was the same thing. Use men's boxing.

01:29:01.310 --> 01:29:02.529
It's a different sport. You're talking about

01:29:02.529 --> 01:29:05.989
women's boxing. No, it's the same shit, man.

01:29:06.699 --> 01:29:10.100
Man, I'm tired of this. I'm tired of this revisionist

01:29:10.100 --> 01:29:12.640
history. But anyway. We don't even need to have

01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:15.760
this talk. What's the next name? I don't care

01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:19.640
about that. For me, for Pitbull Cruz, I'm going

01:29:19.640 --> 01:29:21.800
with Tank Davis. That's the fight we need next.

01:29:22.220 --> 01:29:24.960
We need that fight right now. Let Tank return

01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:27.199
against Pitbull. Can I tell you something? Let's

01:29:27.199 --> 01:29:30.579
see where he's at. Sure, sure. That fight, we

01:29:30.579 --> 01:29:31.800
thought we were getting. That's what I thought

01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:33.119
we were getting. I was like, come back and fight

01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:36.119
Pitbull. I think it was very telling. that you

01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:37.899
weren't getting that fight. I think it was very

01:29:37.899 --> 01:29:39.899
telling that they said, you know what, let's

01:29:39.899 --> 01:29:42.140
look at Floyd Schofield first. I think it's very

01:29:42.140 --> 01:29:43.739
telling that they, I think they think that's

01:29:43.739 --> 01:29:45.340
a really tough matchup and they're unsure about

01:29:45.340 --> 01:29:47.439
that matchup right now. And I think they want,

01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:50.020
I think they wanted a soft touch. Now you were

01:29:50.020 --> 01:29:52.220
a guy that bought this whole Devin Haney conversation,

01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:54.220
right? Oh, they think this Devin Haney thing's

01:29:54.220 --> 01:29:55.380
happening. And I'm sure that's not going to happen.

01:29:55.609 --> 01:29:58.229
It's just a lot of talk because it turns out,

01:29:58.289 --> 01:30:00.090
and I don't even know if this is true, but let's

01:30:00.090 --> 01:30:02.369
just assume it is. Turns out, same time he's

01:30:02.369 --> 01:30:04.050
calling out David Haney, he's calling out Bam

01:30:04.050 --> 01:30:07.390
Rodriguez. So what does a call -out really mean

01:30:07.390 --> 01:30:09.210
when it comes to Tank Davis? I don't know what

01:30:09.210 --> 01:30:10.569
it really means. I don't think it means much.

01:30:10.909 --> 01:30:12.930
But what I'm telling you right now is I don't

01:30:12.930 --> 01:30:14.329
think there's a chance they put him in with a

01:30:14.329 --> 01:30:17.970
trainer change and a gap, and since he's been

01:30:17.970 --> 01:30:19.770
in, with a pit bull. I don't think they will.

01:30:20.989 --> 01:30:22.750
All right, next name on the list, the Charlo

01:30:22.750 --> 01:30:26.050
brothers. Let's start with... A little Charlo,

01:30:26.130 --> 01:30:29.609
Jamel, who we haven't seen since September 2023.

01:30:30.750 --> 01:30:34.710
What do you want to do with him? Who would be

01:30:34.710 --> 01:30:37.710
a good matchup for Jamel? I would like him just

01:30:37.710 --> 01:30:38.829
to get back in it, but I know it's not going

01:30:38.829 --> 01:30:40.909
to happen. So you would need like a tune -up

01:30:40.909 --> 01:30:42.670
fight. So some kind of tune -up fight. I couldn't

01:30:42.670 --> 01:30:44.989
even tell you a name that would interest me.

01:30:45.609 --> 01:30:47.670
Or a name that would make sense. I don't know

01:30:47.670 --> 01:30:48.750
what the tune -up fight would make sense. I got

01:30:48.750 --> 01:31:00.630
one. Okay. Winky Wright. Oh, shit. Whatever tuna

01:31:00.630 --> 01:31:02.689
fight we got to get through for that, and then

01:31:02.689 --> 01:31:07.430
let's get him... Just so we're clear, I just

01:31:07.430 --> 01:31:12.930
received this from the bat phone. Per ESPN, Tank

01:31:12.930 --> 01:31:16.729
and Devin had extensive talks. Just so we're

01:31:16.729 --> 01:31:22.279
clear. What is extensive talks? Okay. They talk

01:31:22.279 --> 01:31:25.520
about basketball, football, women. They talk

01:31:25.520 --> 01:31:26.899
about where they're going to buy their next bag

01:31:26.899 --> 01:31:30.060
from, T .Y. They talk about the next Ferrari

01:31:30.060 --> 01:31:33.279
they're buying. Listen, all I'm going to say

01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:38.960
is you guys like to poo -poo things if it doesn't

01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:41.199
get over the line and make it seem like it's

01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:46.760
not a reality. All I know is this. When Tank

01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:50.689
Davis comes back, He's going to fight a really

01:31:50.689 --> 01:31:54.270
good fighter. Oh, man. That's all I know. Come

01:31:54.270 --> 01:31:56.729
on, man. Why put your neck out like that, man?

01:31:57.189 --> 01:32:00.350
Because that's probably what he was told. Yeah,

01:32:00.350 --> 01:32:02.390
well, let me tell you something. Sometimes maybe

01:32:02.390 --> 01:32:03.789
you should be like, you know what? I get what

01:32:03.789 --> 01:32:05.750
everybody's saying. Let me wait and see on this

01:32:05.750 --> 01:32:09.470
situation. And I'm going to take it a step further.

01:32:10.010 --> 01:32:14.829
I would not be surprised if Tank's next fight

01:32:14.829 --> 01:32:17.970
is against Devin Haney. Is it a matter of if

01:32:17.970 --> 01:32:21.909
Devin Haney wants to fight? Or is it a matter

01:32:21.909 --> 01:32:24.529
of does Devin Haney want to cut a grip of weight

01:32:24.529 --> 01:32:27.289
and do a rehydration class? Which one is it?

01:32:27.890 --> 01:32:31.310
Is it that he wants to fight or is it that he

01:32:31.310 --> 01:32:33.529
has to cut his leg off? This is what pisses me

01:32:33.529 --> 01:32:36.069
off. This is what pisses me off about you fucking

01:32:36.069 --> 01:32:40.510
fake boxing fans. You guys say you want to fight,

01:32:40.630 --> 01:32:42.970
but you're putting conditions on the fight that

01:32:42.970 --> 01:32:46.710
haven't even been discussed. Come on. And then

01:32:46.710 --> 01:32:49.289
you'll say, well, we know what's going to happen.

01:32:49.489 --> 01:32:53.210
No, no, no. Listen, I will say this. I will say

01:32:53.210 --> 01:32:55.250
this, and I'll make it clear right now. If it's

01:32:55.250 --> 01:32:58.890
a catchweight, 144, okay, and there's no rehydration

01:32:58.890 --> 01:33:02.069
clause, I will have no complaints. I'm not going

01:33:02.069 --> 01:33:03.149
to be one of those guys that's going to complain

01:33:03.149 --> 01:33:05.149
no matter what. If they do a catchweight, but

01:33:05.149 --> 01:33:07.010
there's no rehydration clause, and the guy gets

01:33:07.010 --> 01:33:08.789
a cut, and then he can go back up wherever he's

01:33:08.789 --> 01:33:11.779
at comfortably. there'll be no complaints by

01:33:11.779 --> 01:33:13.699
me. I would give full credit to the winner of

01:33:13.699 --> 01:33:15.920
that fight. Even if it's Tank, right? I would

01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:18.979
give him full 100%. Even if it's Tank, yo, yo,

01:33:19.060 --> 01:33:23.859
you really reveal. Tell us how you really feel.

01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:26.039
No, no, no, no, no. You guys don't understand.

01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:28.579
Why would I take credit away from Haney who's

01:33:28.579 --> 01:33:30.840
doing all the work to get to the spot? So, of

01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:32.279
course, even if it's Tank, if Haney's cutting

01:33:32.279 --> 01:33:33.659
all this weight right away, it's a hard time

01:33:33.659 --> 01:33:36.600
probably getting to 147. Hold on, hold on. Haney's

01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:40.630
doing all the work. But 135 -pound Tank moving

01:33:40.630 --> 01:33:43.210
up to welterweight is not doing... Okay, buddy.

01:33:43.289 --> 01:33:47.130
Hold on, hold on. That's easy. He fought at 40

01:33:47.130 --> 01:33:49.810
before. He fought five years. I don't get it.

01:33:50.109 --> 01:33:52.130
And it seems like he's not going back to 135.

01:33:52.529 --> 01:33:54.029
Seems to me like all the opponents he's talking

01:33:54.029 --> 01:33:56.130
about are higher weights. No. So here's the thing

01:33:56.130 --> 01:34:00.180
about Tank. It's not about the weight for Tank.

01:34:00.260 --> 01:34:03.319
He transcends all of that. It's about whatever

01:34:03.319 --> 01:34:08.779
the biggest matchups offer him. Listen, listen,

01:34:08.939 --> 01:34:14.260
listen. Yeah, listen. He wants big events, and

01:34:14.260 --> 01:34:19.689
he has a certain list of niggas. He want to slap

01:34:19.689 --> 01:34:22.810
around before he get out about it. The guy that

01:34:22.810 --> 01:34:26.010
transcends weight also has a very key weight

01:34:26.010 --> 01:34:28.729
requirements on his contract. It's not true.

01:34:29.329 --> 01:34:32.789
It's not true. Hey, hey, hey, hey. He transcends

01:34:32.789 --> 01:34:34.069
weight. Who the fuck are you? Roberto Duran?

01:34:34.470 --> 01:34:36.909
Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of

01:34:36.909 --> 01:34:42.289
here. This is bullshit. KB, send me a DM. I'll

01:34:42.289 --> 01:34:45.270
send you the link. Oh, my. He's fucking. Uh -oh.

01:34:47.390 --> 01:34:50.770
He transcends weight. Is Ezra something else,

01:34:50.810 --> 01:34:54.949
dude? Hey, wait, wait. I thought you only had

01:34:54.949 --> 01:34:58.350
stipulations on one fight. If you agree with

01:34:58.350 --> 01:35:01.529
the stipulations, it doesn't matter. In general.

01:35:02.630 --> 01:35:07.590
Exactly, exactly. Oh, my God. It's crazy because

01:35:07.590 --> 01:35:09.789
he says he does it for Shakur. It's all right.

01:35:09.810 --> 01:35:12.300
That's Shakur. But once he does it for Tank,

01:35:12.460 --> 01:35:14.079
Tank's going to do this and that. Wait, wait,

01:35:14.140 --> 01:35:16.000
wait, wait. Does what for Shakur? They fight

01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:18.760
at 144, so that means he's already compromising,

01:35:18.760 --> 01:35:21.500
going down. Wait, wait, wait. Does what for Shakur?

01:35:21.500 --> 01:35:23.180
I'm curious. Does what for Shakur? He said he'd

01:35:23.180 --> 01:35:25.159
fight Shakur at 144. I just said, wait, wait.

01:35:25.239 --> 01:35:27.460
But I just said, right, 144, I'm good with. I

01:35:27.460 --> 01:35:30.619
said I am perfectly fine with that. I just said

01:35:30.619 --> 01:35:35.600
the catchphrase. What about 143? I don't care.

01:35:35.739 --> 01:35:37.079
I don't care. Whatever they agreed to, they agreed

01:35:37.079 --> 01:35:40.159
to. You get to it. Okay? But if you have a rehydration

01:35:40.159 --> 01:35:42.640
clause, we have all this proof in the world that

01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:45.239
rehydration clause deteriorate a fighter. Make

01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:47.289
him lesser than when he is in the ring. We have

01:35:47.289 --> 01:35:49.229
all this proof to do that. So why are we going

01:35:49.229 --> 01:35:50.670
to ignore that that's not real? Now, we could

01:35:50.670 --> 01:35:52.869
say, oh, we agree to agree to it. But that's

01:35:52.869 --> 01:35:54.789
fine. But at what point is that not a sport?

01:35:54.909 --> 01:35:58.310
And that's this guy having advantages over someone

01:35:58.310 --> 01:36:01.430
because he has financial. He's more financial.

01:36:04.210 --> 01:36:06.449
He's more financially better than other guys.

01:36:06.670 --> 01:36:08.989
Like, let's be honest. This is called what it

01:36:08.989 --> 01:36:12.189
is. That's just what it is, right? I'll tell

01:36:12.189 --> 01:36:14.329
you right now. Tank would not go to 130 and put

01:36:14.329 --> 01:36:18.420
a rehydration. would not do that, okay? He would

01:36:18.420 --> 01:36:20.539
not do that. There's a reason he wouldn't do

01:36:20.539 --> 01:36:23.539
that, okay? So there's a reason why he wants

01:36:23.539 --> 01:36:24.819
this on someone. There's a reason why he wouldn't

01:36:24.819 --> 01:36:31.180
do it to himself. Okay. Be honest. That's all.

01:36:31.300 --> 01:36:34.720
Just be honest. Uh -oh, bro. The problem with

01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:41.739
you, man, you... You're very biased, Ezra. How?

01:36:41.800 --> 01:36:44.680
How? How am I biased? What I just said. If there's

01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:47.279
a category, I'm fine with it. How am I biased?

01:36:47.300 --> 01:36:49.859
I'm just curious. Listen to the language that

01:36:49.859 --> 01:36:52.739
you use. Oh, even tank. Because it would happen.

01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:54.859
Okay, this is the stupidest thing. This is the

01:36:54.859 --> 01:36:56.439
stupidest thing in the world. The first thing

01:36:56.439 --> 01:36:58.960
you said when we started discussing it, oh, we

01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:00.899
know Tank is going to put this clause and this

01:37:00.899 --> 01:37:02.359
clause and this clause and this clause. Of course.

01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:05.420
No, no. We do have a guest being added to the

01:37:05.420 --> 01:37:08.319
show. He has named himself Ezra's biggest fan,

01:37:08.380 --> 01:37:11.960
and I would like to let him speak now. I'm just

01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:13.899
saying Ezra's biggest fan, that's all. I just

01:37:13.899 --> 01:37:21.520
think he's a very handsome man. I'm here to support.

01:37:22.819 --> 01:37:31.479
That's all. Every week, I've got to deal with

01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:36.020
this. First of all, I want to salute Matt for,

01:37:36.720 --> 01:37:39.699
I don't know what the format of the show is,

01:37:39.779 --> 01:37:41.420
but I love that Ty comes on every week because

01:37:41.420 --> 01:37:43.619
I really love Ty's perspective. I really, really

01:37:43.619 --> 01:37:47.039
do. And I think it's absolutely necessary. So

01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:50.420
salute to you guys. I got sent the link once

01:37:50.420 --> 01:37:53.100
and joined ever since. Yeah, I mean, salute,

01:37:53.220 --> 01:37:54.880
because it's different opinions. And I enjoy

01:37:54.880 --> 01:37:57.420
Ezra's opinions as well. Ezra, you're wrong about

01:37:57.420 --> 01:38:01.119
the Devin thing. There have been significant

01:38:01.119 --> 01:38:06.439
talks. Stop trying to already, because you're

01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:08.100
kind of showing your bias, whether you want to

01:38:08.100 --> 01:38:10.180
admit it or not. I will not admit it. Let me

01:38:10.180 --> 01:38:12.869
finish. All right. You have hours to talk and

01:38:12.869 --> 01:38:19.130
you love doing it. Stop already trying to discredit

01:38:19.130 --> 01:38:21.409
or say, well, this or that or this or that. If

01:38:21.409 --> 01:38:23.390
it does happen, which I think is a long shot.

01:38:24.710 --> 01:38:27.270
But if it does happen, it's because both sides

01:38:27.270 --> 01:38:32.430
have agreed. But make no mistake about it, that's

01:38:32.430 --> 01:38:39.250
the fight that Tank wants. Okay, all right. And

01:38:39.250 --> 01:38:41.510
I'll leave with this too, with regards to what

01:38:41.510 --> 01:38:42.670
you're saying about weight cutting, this and

01:38:42.670 --> 01:38:47.470
that, you're a little off there too. So, look,

01:38:47.649 --> 01:38:49.649
it's up to the two fighters. I don't know if

01:38:49.649 --> 01:38:52.189
it happens, but like I said, I think it's a long

01:38:52.189 --> 01:38:55.810
shot just simply because of the timeline. Not

01:38:55.810 --> 01:38:59.029
necessarily any stipulations or financial, despite

01:38:59.029 --> 01:39:01.149
what's going on on social media. I just think

01:39:01.149 --> 01:39:06.430
the timeline may be an issue, but yeah, shut

01:39:06.430 --> 01:39:09.399
it. All right, I'm just going to say one thing.

01:39:09.939 --> 01:39:12.020
Maybe he can go off the fight, but I think he

01:39:12.020 --> 01:39:15.260
wants it under certain stipulations. I'm sure

01:39:15.260 --> 01:39:17.220
both sides want it under certain stipulations.

01:39:17.340 --> 01:39:21.659
You keep pretending as if one guy's doing all

01:39:21.659 --> 01:39:25.180
the heavy lifting, which is just not true. I

01:39:25.180 --> 01:39:27.239
mean, just not true. The guy's waiting at 133

01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:29.840
for his past two or three fights. He could easily

01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:32.979
make 130, quite frankly. He's about 5 '6", 5

01:39:32.979 --> 01:39:37.909
'7", 5 '5". I don't know. So stop acting as if

01:39:37.909 --> 01:39:40.109
it's just one person that has to make all the

01:39:40.109 --> 01:39:42.310
sacrifices. Well, here's the thing, right? Here's

01:39:42.310 --> 01:39:46.529
the thing. I said, if they go to 144, I'm okay

01:39:46.529 --> 01:39:49.229
with it. If they go 143, I'm okay with it. I'm

01:39:49.229 --> 01:39:51.369
okay with it. So the reason why - And respectfully,

01:39:51.569 --> 01:39:53.010
what you're okay with really doesn't matter.

01:39:53.329 --> 01:39:58.270
It's what the two fighters are okay with. But

01:39:58.270 --> 01:40:02.970
at the end of the day, it's what the two fighters

01:40:02.970 --> 01:40:06.250
are agreeable to doing. You're speaking as if

01:40:06.250 --> 01:40:08.510
you know their minds. You already have a foregone

01:40:08.510 --> 01:40:11.229
conclusion. You kind of told on yourself when

01:40:11.229 --> 01:40:13.109
you were like, even tank. No, because the reason

01:40:13.109 --> 01:40:15.710
I said that is because you guys, Matt. Who are

01:40:15.710 --> 01:40:19.289
you guys? Matt. Mike are choosing to say that

01:40:19.289 --> 01:40:21.869
I'm biased towards Tank. When I'm not - You're

01:40:21.869 --> 01:40:25.409
definitely biased. It showed. You kind of showed

01:40:25.409 --> 01:40:27.449
your hand there a little bit. No, no, because

01:40:27.449 --> 01:40:30.489
what I'm saying is I don't like to catch weight.

01:40:30.630 --> 01:40:33.189
And I'm sorry, I don't like the rehydration clause.

01:40:33.329 --> 01:40:35.130
And Tank has done rehydration clause before.

01:40:35.289 --> 01:40:37.529
Everyone's done rehydration clauses. Manny Pacquiao's

01:40:37.529 --> 01:40:39.630
entire prime was nothing but rehydration clause.

01:40:39.630 --> 01:40:42.270
Were you following the sport then? Do you actually

01:40:42.270 --> 01:40:45.140
discredit any of his wins? Do you know how many

01:40:45.140 --> 01:40:47.060
rehydration classes have taken place that you

01:40:47.060 --> 01:40:50.399
never knew about? No. I hear you spot a lot of

01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:52.180
things, talk about a lot of fights, and I just

01:40:52.180 --> 01:40:53.859
chuckle because a lot of these fights had catch

01:40:53.859 --> 01:40:56.039
weights and rehydration classes. Oscar De La

01:40:56.039 --> 01:40:58.319
Hoya had a bunch of rehydration classes. Stop

01:40:58.319 --> 01:41:01.899
it. And what we've learned, right? And you know

01:41:01.899 --> 01:41:03.779
what, Matt? Write the article. Just write an

01:41:03.779 --> 01:41:05.500
article on the history of rehydration causes

01:41:05.500 --> 01:41:07.600
and the results of them. Because I guarantee

01:41:07.600 --> 01:41:09.819
- You write that article. Hold on, hold on. You

01:41:09.819 --> 01:41:12.359
write that article. I guarantee the guy coming

01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:14.840
down - I guarantee you, you don't know 60 to

01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:17.020
70 % of the fights that had rehydration cause.

01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:18.939
I promise you you don't know. I guarantee the

01:41:18.939 --> 01:41:20.539
rehydration cause of the guy that came down and

01:41:20.539 --> 01:41:22.579
it affected more, lost the majority of those

01:41:22.579 --> 01:41:26.829
fights. I would guarantee it. And it is a huge

01:41:26.829 --> 01:41:28.750
disadvantage. And we learned that - Ezra, you

01:41:28.750 --> 01:41:30.789
can't make an argument based on that. Unless

01:41:30.789 --> 01:41:32.409
you've done the research and said that, hold

01:41:32.409 --> 01:41:33.689
on. Unless you've actually done the research

01:41:33.689 --> 01:41:36.270
and can say that, kill that conversation until

01:41:36.270 --> 01:41:40.170
you've actually done that. Dude, you have not

01:41:40.170 --> 01:41:42.729
done any research on it. I promise you, you don't

01:41:42.729 --> 01:41:44.029
even know most of the fights that actually had

01:41:44.029 --> 01:41:47.220
clauses in it. So kill it, just stop. When you

01:41:47.220 --> 01:41:48.579
watch the fight, the rehydration clause, it's

01:41:48.579 --> 01:41:50.920
obvious. When you watch the fight, as if you

01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:52.960
know most of the fights that had rehydration

01:41:52.960 --> 01:41:55.039
clauses, you do not know. Therefore, you cannot

01:41:55.039 --> 01:41:56.920
make that argument. You could definitely make

01:41:56.920 --> 01:41:57.600
the argument just by watching the performance.

01:41:57.600 --> 01:41:59.359
No, you can't. You could definitely make the

01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:00.859
argument just by watching the performance and

01:42:00.859 --> 01:42:02.800
watching the guy be a shell of himself in the

01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:04.279
ring. You definitely can make the argument. Ezra,

01:42:04.840 --> 01:42:07.779
you don't know which fights. Ezra, you do not,

01:42:07.800 --> 01:42:10.039
like I said, I promise you do not know 60 to

01:42:10.039 --> 01:42:11.699
70 % of the fights that have had those kind of

01:42:11.699 --> 01:42:14.819
clauses. Probably more. I'm being generous towards

01:42:14.819 --> 01:42:18.140
you. Ezra. But you don't even know what goes

01:42:18.140 --> 01:42:22.819
into a bad performance though, Ezra. Ezra, I

01:42:22.819 --> 01:42:25.920
value your opinion, but what you're saying right

01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:29.619
now is based in nothing. You do not have, it

01:42:29.619 --> 01:42:31.180
is steeped in nothing. You have not done the

01:42:31.180 --> 01:42:32.699
research. You have not done the homework. You

01:42:32.699 --> 01:42:34.760
sound like a guy sitting in his car next to a

01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:39.140
post office. I am that. Exactly. But here's the

01:42:39.140 --> 01:42:41.460
thing though, right? So we can say that, right?

01:42:41.520 --> 01:42:42.979
But we can say it the other way too. So what

01:42:42.979 --> 01:42:45.279
are you guys basing it on? Do you say it doesn't

01:42:45.279 --> 01:42:47.319
really have an effect? I'm not basing it on anything

01:42:47.319 --> 01:42:51.039
because honestly, we don't even know what the

01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:53.399
terms would be. It almost sounds like you want

01:42:53.399 --> 01:42:56.760
to kill the credit before it even happens. So

01:42:56.760 --> 01:42:59.840
like I said, ultimately, it's up to the two fighters.

01:43:00.539 --> 01:43:04.180
And once they go forward with it, that's that.

01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:09.619
Okay, but here's the thing. Hold on. Hold on

01:43:09.619 --> 01:43:11.140
one second. Let me just say this one thing. The

01:43:11.140 --> 01:43:16.369
reason why... I'm saying this now because I don't

01:43:16.369 --> 01:43:18.569
like when people change their opinion or not

01:43:18.569 --> 01:43:20.729
clear on where they stand before something happens.

01:43:20.850 --> 01:43:24.590
I want to make it clear where I stand. No, but

01:43:24.590 --> 01:43:27.029
you're adding, I mean, the thing is that you

01:43:27.029 --> 01:43:32.010
- Yeah, but you're assuming something that you

01:43:32.010 --> 01:43:38.050
don't know. What if there is one, it has no effect

01:43:38.050 --> 01:43:40.210
at all, and someone gets knocked out? Would it

01:43:40.210 --> 01:43:42.109
be because of that, just because you assumed

01:43:42.109 --> 01:43:45.100
that prior? I think that we have, I think we've

01:43:45.100 --> 01:43:47.199
seen enough fights. No, no, you have not seen

01:43:47.199 --> 01:43:49.880
enough fights. You have not, my friend. To know

01:43:49.880 --> 01:43:51.739
that the rehydration clause really affects the

01:43:51.739 --> 01:43:54.199
fight. Ezra, Ezra, Ezra. Where do you rank Manny

01:43:54.199 --> 01:43:56.600
Pacquiao, Ezra? I assume he's not an all -time

01:43:56.600 --> 01:43:58.640
great. He's an all -time great, but you know

01:43:58.640 --> 01:44:00.579
what? How is he? Let's go back. How is he? His

01:44:00.579 --> 01:44:04.420
whole run from 40 to 54 was nothing but rehydrations

01:44:04.420 --> 01:44:06.899
and catch rates. Then let's go back and rethink

01:44:06.899 --> 01:44:11.260
all this. Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, even Eric

01:44:11.260 --> 01:44:14.039
Morales had a rehydration clause. Now that we

01:44:14.039 --> 01:44:16.859
know where we're at in boxing, what the rehydration

01:44:16.859 --> 01:44:19.020
clause does, let's go back. No, no, no, no. Why

01:44:19.020 --> 01:44:21.600
is it that now we know? Because you say so? Just

01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:24.560
like a steroid era of baseball. When we say,

01:44:24.640 --> 01:44:29.100
okay, now we know this. Dude, you sound crazy,

01:44:29.399 --> 01:44:34.340
Ezra. Ezra, how about this? This is a huge, it

01:44:34.340 --> 01:44:36.539
takes away something from - Hold on, Ezra, how

01:44:36.539 --> 01:44:38.640
about this? It's a ridiculous argument. Ezra,

01:44:39.260 --> 01:44:40.939
these kind of clauses have been going on for

01:44:40.939 --> 01:44:42.800
30, 40 years. They're fine, they could be going

01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:44.300
on for a long time, don't mean they're right

01:44:44.300 --> 01:44:47.420
now. You're right, it doesn't mean it's right,

01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:49.279
but it also doesn't mean that it has this effect

01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:51.760
or that effect. You have not done that research.

01:44:51.899 --> 01:44:53.500
I hate even having this argument because - Like

01:44:53.500 --> 01:44:55.819
I said, nothing has been agreed to, so I don't

01:44:55.819 --> 01:44:57.260
want to make it seem like that. But you have

01:44:57.260 --> 01:44:59.260
not done the research to be able to speak on

01:44:59.260 --> 01:45:01.460
it. Okay, so I don't think any of us have done

01:45:01.460 --> 01:45:02.659
the research. Ezra, is that your wife screaming

01:45:02.659 --> 01:45:04.539
at you to get out the car or something? What

01:45:04.539 --> 01:45:12.119
happened? That's Matt's background noise. Ezra's

01:45:12.119 --> 01:45:14.659
got groceries in the car that he hasn't taken.

01:45:15.420 --> 01:45:17.560
Here's what I want you to do, Ezra. No, no, no.

01:45:17.979 --> 01:45:21.079
Listen, calm down. Here's what I want you to

01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:24.130
do. I know you feel attacked because KB came

01:45:24.130 --> 01:45:28.090
over here and swept you around. Your voice went

01:45:28.090 --> 01:45:32.369
high. Your voice went high. I don't think it's

01:45:32.369 --> 01:45:35.029
frenetic in a while. No, no, no. I don't want

01:45:35.029 --> 01:45:36.970
it to happen here. I don't want it to happen

01:45:36.970 --> 01:45:40.890
here. Matt gets very excited when KB's here.

01:45:41.069 --> 01:45:44.510
And he decides to be an illegal tag partner,

01:45:44.689 --> 01:45:46.470
and he's not following the rules. No, that's

01:45:46.470 --> 01:45:49.229
what I'm talking about. I'm not his biggest fan.

01:45:49.310 --> 01:45:51.539
Don't you see my name at the bottom? So what

01:45:51.539 --> 01:45:54.119
I have to do is make sure I control the situation

01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:56.119
that's happening. Wait, why do you have to control

01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:58.279
the situation? But I don't want to have a conversation

01:45:58.279 --> 01:46:00.960
with Matt hitting me in the back while it's happening.

01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:03.039
Yeah, fair enough, fair enough. We're not doing

01:46:03.039 --> 01:46:05.239
a tag team. I just wanted to add, truthfully,

01:46:05.300 --> 01:46:07.699
the whole rehydration thing is something totally

01:46:07.699 --> 01:46:08.880
separate. Like I said, that's a totally separate

01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:11.539
debate. And I don't have a leg to stand on with

01:46:11.539 --> 01:46:13.399
that because I haven't done enough research.

01:46:13.460 --> 01:46:14.800
I don't think anyone on this call has done enough

01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:16.819
research to know what is or what isn't. You really

01:46:16.819 --> 01:46:19.569
- There's so many different factors that go into

01:46:19.569 --> 01:46:21.989
why a fighter wins or loses. And secondly, I

01:46:21.989 --> 01:46:24.550
don't want it to make it seem as if this is something

01:46:24.550 --> 01:46:28.050
that's being discussed and that's a holdup or

01:46:28.050 --> 01:46:30.569
this or that. I'm not saying any of those two

01:46:30.569 --> 01:46:32.510
things. What I just wanted to point out to you

01:46:32.510 --> 01:46:34.789
is you had made a comment, which was also steeped

01:46:34.789 --> 01:46:36.890
in bias, like, the talks weren't real, the talks

01:46:36.890 --> 01:46:38.310
were fake. You said it last week, you said it

01:46:38.310 --> 01:46:41.729
this week. And so what I wanted to tell you is

01:46:41.729 --> 01:46:45.189
you're wrong. Okay, I'll accept that. I don't

01:46:45.189 --> 01:46:46.949
know any more information. I would think you

01:46:46.949 --> 01:46:49.189
have better information than me, 100 % on that.

01:46:49.270 --> 01:46:51.569
So if you say that, I accept it, and I say, okay,

01:46:51.630 --> 01:46:53.989
I was wrong on that. Now, what I feel like I

01:46:53.989 --> 01:46:55.909
might be right about, but we don't know yet.

01:46:55.970 --> 01:46:57.670
We'll see if it ever gets made over the line,

01:46:57.770 --> 01:46:59.810
is that they're going to put a rehydration pump.

01:47:00.590 --> 01:47:05.250
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Matt, you wanted me to

01:47:05.250 --> 01:47:08.149
do something. I'm ready to listen. Here's what

01:47:08.149 --> 01:47:11.289
I want you to do, Ezra. All right. You have until...

01:47:11.990 --> 01:47:14.270
I don't like a deadline. I don't like a deadline.

01:47:14.310 --> 01:47:17.090
You have until 2027. Okay, I don't like a deadline.

01:47:17.229 --> 01:47:20.529
Go ahead. All right, I would like you to research

01:47:20.529 --> 01:47:24.529
as many fights as you can that had rehydration

01:47:24.529 --> 01:47:28.729
clauses. We want to know who put the rehydration

01:47:28.729 --> 01:47:33.350
clause and how did it affect the fight? If the

01:47:33.350 --> 01:47:35.810
guy who put it won or if the guy who had the

01:47:35.810 --> 01:47:39.430
rehydration clause put on him won. Okay, I will

01:47:39.430 --> 01:47:41.939
do that. I would do that, yes, because I have

01:47:41.939 --> 01:47:43.060
a feeling I know what the outcomes are going

01:47:43.060 --> 01:47:46.560
to be. Now, I want to ask you this, right? Just

01:47:46.560 --> 01:47:49.119
let me ask you this. Do you think the rehydration

01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:53.300
clause have an effect on the fight? I don't know,

01:47:53.380 --> 01:47:55.340
because I think a lot - Here's what I think.

01:47:55.600 --> 01:48:02.020
Here's what I think. I say no. I'll say this.

01:48:02.220 --> 01:48:04.939
I'll say this. I think it depends on the fighter.

01:48:05.420 --> 01:48:07.260
And I also think what also depends on a fighter

01:48:07.260 --> 01:48:09.779
is if you're being told to go up 10, 15 pounds

01:48:09.779 --> 01:48:12.180
also. Well, I mean, here's the thing though,

01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:15.119
right? Are you being told or do you want a fight?

01:48:15.220 --> 01:48:16.520
Like, are you going to make that decision? Because

01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:18.140
I don't think, here's the thing, I don't think

01:48:18.140 --> 01:48:20.420
anyone's forcing your hand to go up. You go up,

01:48:20.420 --> 01:48:22.119
you go up. I mean, that is right, that's a career

01:48:22.119 --> 01:48:24.079
move and decision. Same thing with rehydration,

01:48:24.079 --> 01:48:27.640
right? No one's forcing your hand. Exactly. So

01:48:27.640 --> 01:48:31.479
what do you say? Exactly. But a rehydration clause,

01:48:31.720 --> 01:48:33.399
right? No one's forcing your hand to do it. It's

01:48:33.399 --> 01:48:36.939
the same thing. It's an advantage I think you

01:48:36.939 --> 01:48:39.819
put on someone. No, Ezra, Ezra, Ezra. You started

01:48:39.819 --> 01:48:41.840
your whole conversation with no one is telling

01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:44.220
you to do something, but then you're saying about

01:48:44.220 --> 01:48:45.859
the rehydration. No one is telling anyone to

01:48:45.859 --> 01:48:48.699
do that either. It's the same thing. Just let

01:48:48.699 --> 01:48:52.090
it go, my friend. One thing, one key thing. The

01:48:52.090 --> 01:48:54.109
guy that usually is able to put rehydration calls

01:48:54.109 --> 01:48:56.430
on someone is the guy that is the massive A -side,

01:48:56.510 --> 01:48:58.649
the massive star of the fight. No, you know what?

01:48:59.029 --> 01:49:03.029
That's not true. You can also argue that there

01:49:03.029 --> 01:49:08.029
have been A -sides who are in that exact opposite

01:49:08.029 --> 01:49:11.149
position. I mean, it works both ways, right?

01:49:11.270 --> 01:49:14.569
And so to me, a lot of people say, a lot of people,

01:49:14.729 --> 01:49:18.229
the point I'm making with respect to that is

01:49:18.229 --> 01:49:20.329
that it's not easy for everyone to move up either.

01:49:20.940 --> 01:49:24.359
Not everyone is Manny Pacquiao. And so when Manny

01:49:24.359 --> 01:49:26.479
Pacquiao moves up to 140, Manny Pacquiao moves

01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:28.699
up to 47, Manny Pacquiao moves up to 54. He may

01:49:28.699 --> 01:49:30.680
need like, hey, I need this stipulation. Now,

01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:32.380
did Manny Pacquiao kick your ass because of that

01:49:32.380 --> 01:49:34.239
stipulation? Or was Manny Pacquiao just better

01:49:34.239 --> 01:49:37.260
than you? You know what? It's hard to say. Right,

01:49:37.260 --> 01:49:39.420
you really can't. And then it's also a factor

01:49:39.420 --> 01:49:41.079
in the fact that Manny Pacquiao is the one moving

01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:45.119
up. Right? He's taking a risk, too. He's getting

01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:48.300
hit in the face by a guy who's way, way bigger

01:49:48.300 --> 01:49:49.859
than him. Yeah, he's choosing to come up in the

01:49:49.859 --> 01:49:51.600
weight classes, though. Yeah, and you're choosing

01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:54.060
to fight him under a rehydration clause. They

01:49:54.060 --> 01:49:55.279
both choose. No one's got a gun to their ass.

01:49:55.579 --> 01:49:57.880
Exactly. That's what it is. I don't think I have

01:49:57.880 --> 01:50:01.380
an issue with the argument KB's making. To me,

01:50:01.460 --> 01:50:03.180
I think with the rehydration clause and the people

01:50:03.180 --> 01:50:04.840
instituting them when they're moving up is if

01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:06.300
you think you're better than someone, you should

01:50:06.300 --> 01:50:07.979
be able to beat them at the full weight. That's

01:50:07.979 --> 01:50:12.180
my take on it. Yeah, I agree with that, but it's

01:50:12.180 --> 01:50:14.359
also about, at the end of the day, it's also

01:50:14.359 --> 01:50:17.300
about trying to make a fight, right? That's when

01:50:17.300 --> 01:50:19.699
it comes down. Yeah, at the end of the day, it's

01:50:19.699 --> 01:50:21.039
about trying to make a fight because sometimes

01:50:21.039 --> 01:50:25.029
it's - Everyone, when he sits at the table, looks

01:50:25.029 --> 01:50:28.029
to see what they can get that makes sense for

01:50:28.029 --> 01:50:33.449
them. Both parties, right? No, no, in the ring

01:50:33.449 --> 01:50:35.489
as well. That's why I pointed out, I said, if

01:50:35.489 --> 01:50:37.890
you knew the number of fights, no one's ever,

01:50:38.010 --> 01:50:40.890
ever taken Pernell Whitaker to task for forcing

01:50:40.890 --> 01:50:43.770
Julio Cesar Chavez. I use forcing, for forcing

01:50:43.770 --> 01:50:46.430
Julio Cesar Chavez essentially to move up beyond

01:50:46.430 --> 01:50:50.420
his weight to make the fight. You know, if Bernard

01:50:50.420 --> 01:50:52.300
Hopkins, who looked like a damn skeleton against

01:50:52.300 --> 01:50:55.159
Oscar De La Hoya, if Oscar De La Hoya had stopped

01:50:55.159 --> 01:50:57.220
Bernard Hopkins, do you think folks would have

01:50:57.220 --> 01:50:59.920
said it's because Bernard Hopkins was forced

01:50:59.920 --> 01:51:02.720
to fight at a 156 catch rate with a rehydration

01:51:02.720 --> 01:51:06.460
clause? No. So the bottom line, but that's not

01:51:06.460 --> 01:51:08.060
what happened. Bernard Hopkins stopped him, right?

01:51:08.300 --> 01:51:11.079
Yep. With all of those clauses. So there's so

01:51:11.079 --> 01:51:12.960
many different - You know what? There's so many

01:51:12.960 --> 01:51:14.359
different - Wait, wait, wait, can I say, can

01:51:14.359 --> 01:51:16.760
I say? I wasn't done, but sure, go ahead. Even

01:51:16.760 --> 01:51:19.020
more credit to Bernard Hopkins for that win.

01:51:19.399 --> 01:51:22.039
No, it's not even more. You never said even more

01:51:22.039 --> 01:51:25.800
credit until just today. I mean, be honest. You

01:51:25.800 --> 01:51:27.699
haven't. You weren't like, wow, I give him more

01:51:27.699 --> 01:51:29.899
credit for beating Oscar because he had to do

01:51:29.899 --> 01:51:32.680
this. You never said that before. Yeah, but that's

01:51:32.680 --> 01:51:36.000
my point. So don't talk about it. You don't know

01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:38.220
about it. What you're saying is, oh, you know

01:51:38.220 --> 01:51:39.880
about it now, but you didn't know about then,

01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:42.060
so we can't judge it. No, no, no, no, no. Now

01:51:42.060 --> 01:51:43.880
that just makes you rethink everything you saw.

01:51:44.140 --> 01:51:47.439
No, that should make you rethink everything you

01:51:47.439 --> 01:51:49.539
saw because what I'm saying is that your assumption

01:51:49.539 --> 01:51:51.920
about rehydration clauses is not right because

01:51:51.920 --> 01:51:54.460
you have not done any research. You don't know

01:51:54.460 --> 01:51:57.460
whether it affects or not. I mean, I don't even

01:51:57.460 --> 01:51:58.939
want to get bogged down in this because like

01:51:58.939 --> 01:52:02.380
I said, I've not heard it's a stipulation that's

01:52:02.380 --> 01:52:06.340
killing anything. But the thing is that one,

01:52:06.500 --> 01:52:10.000
two parties agree. That's one. And once the two

01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:14.060
parties agree, whatever happens, happens. Now,

01:52:14.079 --> 01:52:16.140
we of course on the outside can say, okay, yeah,

01:52:16.220 --> 01:52:18.539
this weight was too big for him, this and that,

01:52:18.699 --> 01:52:22.199
etc, etc. But for you to make a definitive statement

01:52:22.199 --> 01:52:24.960
like that, you started off, please look at it

01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:26.760
from my perspective, Ezra. You started off by

01:52:26.760 --> 01:52:28.659
saying that the negotiations weren't even real

01:52:28.659 --> 01:52:30.699
and basically saying that Tank is effing around.

01:52:31.319 --> 01:52:33.399
And then you go off by saying, well, if it happens.

01:52:34.199 --> 01:52:35.920
It's going to be this and that, this and that,

01:52:35.920 --> 01:52:37.180
this and that, and basically he's not going to

01:52:37.180 --> 01:52:38.960
get credit. And then Matt kind of forcing you

01:52:38.960 --> 01:52:42.140
like, hey, I might even give Tank credit. I mean,

01:52:42.159 --> 01:52:43.600
you said something to that effect. So what I'm

01:52:43.600 --> 01:52:46.159
saying to you is that you are showing through

01:52:46.159 --> 01:52:50.859
this entire process your bias. Do you get what

01:52:50.859 --> 01:52:54.279
I'm saying? I know you want to admit it. I know

01:52:54.279 --> 01:52:56.640
you want to admit it, but you're showing your

01:52:56.640 --> 01:53:00.119
bias through step by step by step. So even when

01:53:00.119 --> 01:53:04.180
I point out to you, actually, the conversations

01:53:04.180 --> 01:53:06.340
are real. You're like, okay, fine, I admit that.

01:53:06.600 --> 01:53:10.939
But if it happens, it's like, dude, step back.

01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:13.100
You see, that's the thing, is that what I don't

01:53:13.100 --> 01:53:15.460
like is when people talk about boxing, right?

01:53:15.500 --> 01:53:17.899
They talk about boxing. They always don't cover

01:53:17.899 --> 01:53:19.720
what it could possibly be so they'd have a definitive

01:53:19.720 --> 01:53:21.800
opinion. I want to have a definitive opinion.

01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:24.260
So in case this happens, I can't go back and

01:53:24.260 --> 01:53:26.479
say - But Ezra, look behind you. No, no, no,

01:53:26.479 --> 01:53:28.199
but what I'm - Look behind you, Ezra, behind

01:53:28.199 --> 01:53:32.619
you. Behind you. I'm going to just ignore that.

01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:35.260
Just don't distract. You see Matt playing illegal

01:53:35.260 --> 01:53:39.939
tag partner. So here we go. Here we go. I want

01:53:39.939 --> 01:53:41.859
a definitive statement. So I cannot go back.

01:53:41.880 --> 01:53:43.260
This is where I stand. I can't hear a thing else

01:53:43.260 --> 01:53:47.859
you're saying. Is my mic messed up? No, you're

01:53:47.859 --> 01:53:51.420
just talking nonsense. Okay. A bunch of who shot

01:53:51.420 --> 01:53:54.039
John. Hold on. I want a definitive statement

01:53:54.039 --> 01:53:55.920
of where I stand under any conditions of what

01:53:55.920 --> 01:53:57.399
the fight could be made. There's not me going

01:53:57.399 --> 01:54:00.220
backwards. I make it definitive. Now, listen,

01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:02.180
I haven't done a lot of research on people drunk

01:54:02.180 --> 01:54:04.000
driving, but I happen to know I think it's a

01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:06.359
bad idea. It seems like a lot of disasters happen

01:54:06.359 --> 01:54:08.069
by it. I've never done the research on it. I

01:54:08.069 --> 01:54:10.569
never did a study on it. I couldn't give you

01:54:10.569 --> 01:54:12.510
the percentages of it, but I kind of know it's

01:54:12.510 --> 01:54:14.689
kind of a bad thing. When I watch these guys

01:54:14.689 --> 01:54:17.170
in rehydration classes over and over again, the

01:54:17.170 --> 01:54:19.390
guy's not the same fighter. He's not 100%. He

01:54:19.390 --> 01:54:22.029
definitely is decreased as a fighter. There's

01:54:22.029 --> 01:54:23.850
no way, and if you could say, oh, it has no effect

01:54:23.850 --> 01:54:26.090
on the fight, I think that's absolutely insanity

01:54:26.090 --> 01:54:28.109
to say. There's just no way to say that. Now,

01:54:28.130 --> 01:54:29.970
if you say, I don't know what it is, okay, that's

01:54:29.970 --> 01:54:32.310
fine, but I think we have eyeballs and we watch

01:54:32.310 --> 01:54:33.909
the fights, and when it happens, it happens.

01:54:34.170 --> 01:54:35.890
Now, when you say, okay, that's just to make

01:54:35.890 --> 01:54:37.359
a fight happen, You've got to make these fights

01:54:37.359 --> 01:54:39.939
happen, whatever. But we know that it's usually

01:54:39.939 --> 01:54:41.619
not just to make a fight happen, but it's to

01:54:41.619 --> 01:54:43.680
get a payday that you would not usually get.

01:54:43.819 --> 01:54:46.319
You have to make these things happen because

01:54:46.319 --> 01:54:48.460
that payday is not coming from anywhere else.

01:54:48.579 --> 01:54:51.199
And the guy that holds that payday has the advantages

01:54:51.199 --> 01:54:53.800
and negotiations to put a rehydration clause

01:54:53.800 --> 01:54:55.640
on someone. I don't necessarily think that's

01:54:55.640 --> 01:54:57.579
fair. I don't necessarily think that's right.

01:54:57.779 --> 01:55:00.590
And I think that's an unfair advantage. Can we

01:55:00.590 --> 01:55:01.729
get somebody to use the comments now? No, no,

01:55:01.770 --> 01:55:03.529
no, don't interrupt me because I'm making points.

01:55:03.550 --> 01:55:05.369
I said, can we get somebody to use the comments

01:55:05.369 --> 01:55:22.180
now? Okay. This is what, this is exactly. So

01:55:22.180 --> 01:55:26.920
the reason why I'm going to talk over you, the

01:55:26.920 --> 01:55:28.340
reason why I'm going to talk over you is because

01:55:28.340 --> 01:55:30.760
what we're going to do is, we couldn't even make

01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:32.819
his point. I covered every base that was covered

01:55:32.819 --> 01:55:35.279
and I covered it clearly. You made your point.

01:55:35.890 --> 01:55:39.810
A whole bunch of who shot John. And I understand

01:55:39.810 --> 01:55:42.109
that your tag team partner still doesn't need

01:55:42.109 --> 01:55:44.449
to defend you because you got stomped out. So

01:55:44.449 --> 01:55:49.869
let's move to the user comments. Let's move to

01:55:49.869 --> 01:55:50.529
the user comments. It ain't going to happen today,

01:55:50.529 --> 01:55:52.449
my friend. It ain't going to happen today. Let's

01:55:52.449 --> 01:55:54.430
move to the user comments, okay? Let's move to

01:55:54.430 --> 01:55:57.930
the user comments. This guy, this guy, Sibby.

01:55:58.590 --> 01:56:01.489
This guy, Sibby. This fucking guy, Sibby. Hey,

01:56:01.569 --> 01:56:03.149
I just wanted to add one more thing. Can you

01:56:03.149 --> 01:56:06.560
hear me, Huey? Yes. Yeah. Yep, I can hear you.

01:56:08.539 --> 01:56:10.060
Can you not hear us? I don't think he can hear

01:56:10.060 --> 01:56:17.779
us. Can you hear us? Oh man, he's typing away

01:56:17.779 --> 01:56:23.220
furiously over there. Yeah, he just can't hear

01:56:23.220 --> 01:56:26.239
us. Yeah, I think he can't hear us. What I would

01:56:26.239 --> 01:56:29.979
do, I would remove his mic just because he can't

01:56:29.979 --> 01:56:31.739
hear us. I don't want him to say anything. Here's

01:56:31.739 --> 01:56:34.039
this guy, Sid B. Oh, that's why, because they

01:56:34.039 --> 01:56:37.380
feel he attacked Ting. Shut the fuck up. What

01:56:37.380 --> 01:56:40.359
are you talking about, bro? What are you talking

01:56:40.359 --> 01:56:45.279
about, bro? See, here's the thing. You can't

01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:48.180
poo -poo something every step of the way and

01:56:48.180 --> 01:56:51.180
then claim that you're not biased. What do you

01:56:51.180 --> 01:56:52.970
mean, though? I'm just curious, what do you mean

01:56:52.970 --> 01:56:55.229
though? Just give me examples. What you just

01:56:55.229 --> 01:56:57.449
did now, but Ezra, it's all good. I don't want

01:56:57.449 --> 01:57:01.630
you to feel like I wasn't trying to attack you

01:57:01.630 --> 01:57:03.750
in any way. No, no, no. Yeah, but I did want

01:57:03.750 --> 01:57:06.909
to address something because I am your biggest

01:57:06.909 --> 01:57:10.460
fan. And there's also - There's also someone

01:57:10.460 --> 01:57:12.859
in the comments who's also my biggest fan. I'm

01:57:12.859 --> 01:57:14.260
looking, it's Brick Squad. Every time I join,

01:57:14.319 --> 01:57:15.779
he's always talking about me. It's weird because

01:57:15.779 --> 01:57:18.279
I don't know who this guy is. It's impressive.

01:57:18.319 --> 01:57:20.359
I wish I thought about you as much as you thought

01:57:20.359 --> 01:57:25.020
about me. But to address you. About how we can't

01:57:25.020 --> 01:57:27.439
afford to put on fights any longer and so forth

01:57:27.439 --> 01:57:29.579
and so forth. You're absolutely right. Everyone,

01:57:29.579 --> 01:57:32.279
I guess, who joins can't put on fights any longer.

01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:34.500
So I guess that would make PBC the fourth company

01:57:34.500 --> 01:57:36.899
who can't afford to put on fights any longer.

01:57:37.319 --> 01:57:39.659
Please try coming with something logical next

01:57:39.659 --> 01:57:41.779
time you want to say something. I want to make

01:57:41.779 --> 01:57:45.220
it clear. I enjoy my conversations with KP. I

01:57:45.220 --> 01:57:47.569
don't enjoy my conversations with Matt. That's

01:57:47.569 --> 01:57:49.029
the part that I want to make clear about this.

01:57:49.149 --> 01:57:51.289
Me and KB can talk boxing all day. Me and Matt,

01:57:51.390 --> 01:57:53.130
did I have an issue with? Oh, that's clearly

01:57:53.130 --> 01:58:00.510
evident. Yes, definitely. Anyway. Which of these

01:58:00.510 --> 01:58:02.430
comments did you want to address? I wanted to

01:58:02.430 --> 01:58:07.229
address Sibi, because Sibi has been pissing me

01:58:07.229 --> 01:58:12.109
off. Yeah, yeah. I don't say someone's biased

01:58:12.109 --> 01:58:14.189
when they disagree with me. I don't care whether

01:58:14.189 --> 01:58:16.619
or not you agree or disagree with me. What I

01:58:16.619 --> 01:58:20.199
care about is the process of how you reach your

01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:24.979
conclusion, okay? Ezra's process was the talks

01:58:24.979 --> 01:58:29.039
are not real. Even from Devin Haney's side, he

01:58:29.039 --> 01:58:31.460
said he was contacted. So don't say the talks

01:58:31.460 --> 01:58:33.340
are not real. And then after he said the talks

01:58:33.340 --> 01:58:36.960
are not real, well, we already know this is going

01:58:36.960 --> 01:58:40.479
to happen. This is going to happen. Ezra thinks

01:58:40.479 --> 01:58:45.130
that he's fucking B -Rabbit. Okay, in eight mile.

01:58:45.350 --> 01:58:47.369
And he's going to predict everything that's going

01:58:47.369 --> 01:58:49.210
to happen, everything you're going to say, and

01:58:49.210 --> 01:58:51.609
then that's it, and he's right. And then he bases

01:58:51.609 --> 01:58:56.050
his whole opinion off of stuff that did not happen,

01:58:56.189 --> 01:58:59.409
but stuff that he takes as fact because he said

01:58:59.409 --> 01:59:01.470
he thinks this is going to happen. You cannot

01:59:01.470 --> 01:59:04.100
do that. Well, I mean, everything, listen, I

01:59:04.100 --> 01:59:05.800
want to make it clear. I made this clear pretty

01:59:05.800 --> 01:59:08.380
much. I have no insight sources at all. I have

01:59:08.380 --> 01:59:11.180
none. So everything I'm doing is me projecting

01:59:11.180 --> 01:59:13.020
on just what I'm seeing just as much as what

01:59:13.020 --> 01:59:15.079
everybody else is seeing. But Ezra, it seems

01:59:15.079 --> 01:59:19.479
like you projected one way from beginning all

01:59:19.479 --> 01:59:22.939
the way. And so when you do that, when you do

01:59:22.939 --> 01:59:25.000
that, when it's like, you said it last week,

01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:27.859
actually, you were like, this is not real. This

01:59:27.859 --> 01:59:31.760
is not happening. And then today, you made that

01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:34.460
comment again. And then you go from there to

01:59:34.460 --> 01:59:37.340
you're adding caveats to if it is real. In that

01:59:37.340 --> 01:59:39.159
case, it's this, it's that, it's this and that.

01:59:39.380 --> 01:59:41.579
So I think that's where, which is fine, we're

01:59:41.579 --> 01:59:45.319
boxing fans. Obviously, we all have, to me, I

01:59:45.319 --> 01:59:49.020
get it, because we all have different opinions.

01:59:49.119 --> 01:59:51.920
We form and shape our opinions on fighters, on

01:59:51.920 --> 01:59:53.779
fights, etc., etc. That's what we do as fight

01:59:53.779 --> 01:59:56.739
fans. And it's okay to admit it, you know what

01:59:56.739 --> 02:00:00.939
I mean? I think what you guys are taking on is

02:00:00.939 --> 02:00:03.579
that I don't like Tink or not - No, I didn't

02:00:03.579 --> 02:00:06.279
say that. I didn't say that, you don't even know

02:00:06.279 --> 02:00:09.920
him. I don't know him, nothing about him. What

02:00:09.920 --> 02:00:12.579
I am saying, right, and just like I'm fair with

02:00:12.579 --> 02:00:15.760
anyone else, to me, David Haney, I said, he'll

02:00:15.760 --> 02:00:18.000
fight anyone, he'll get with anyone. Then I said,

02:00:18.100 --> 02:00:20.060
you know what, he's Dr. Rolly Romero. And I've

02:00:20.060 --> 02:00:21.359
been consistent with that. I said, you know what,

02:00:21.399 --> 02:00:23.260
because the way he moved and everything in the

02:00:23.260 --> 02:00:25.340
fight, he should have took a fight that to me

02:00:25.340 --> 02:00:27.119
was a really great opportunity that I didn't

02:00:27.119 --> 02:00:28.319
think was going to come. I said, you know what,

02:00:28.319 --> 02:00:29.720
that's a great thing. And if he had that offer,

02:00:29.840 --> 02:00:31.800
he should have took it, right? I think he ducked

02:00:31.800 --> 02:00:33.920
him. So I have my opinions based on how I feel

02:00:33.920 --> 02:00:35.920
like you're moving. Now with Tank, I don't feel

02:00:35.920 --> 02:00:38.260
like he's the most guy that I could trust to

02:00:38.260 --> 02:00:40.079
fill a schedule consistently. I don't feel that

02:00:40.079 --> 02:00:42.960
way. And also, I don't feel like Tank has been

02:00:42.960 --> 02:00:45.000
the most eager guy to move up and wait to fight

02:00:45.000 --> 02:00:47.119
things. Now, he has been in 140, but I always

02:00:47.119 --> 02:00:49.640
felt like he felt that I don't want to go to

02:00:49.640 --> 02:00:53.159
140. These guys just started moving up. They

02:00:53.159 --> 02:00:55.000
were all the same weight for a long time. And

02:00:55.000 --> 02:00:57.420
I think that we've had this conversation before,

02:00:57.659 --> 02:01:00.239
but I think that I find it interesting. I think

02:01:00.239 --> 02:01:04.100
it's unique in the sport of boxing when you look

02:01:04.100 --> 02:01:06.600
at, and I think Huey and I had this conversation

02:01:06.600 --> 02:01:10.909
in Vegas at some point. When you look at, All

02:01:10.909 --> 02:01:13.729
the previous A -sides, right? Like Canelo, when

02:01:13.729 --> 02:01:16.250
Canelo first announced that he was going to the

02:01:16.250 --> 02:01:19.609
zone, you kind of saw like a migration of super

02:01:19.609 --> 02:01:22.289
middleweights moving over the zone and trying

02:01:22.289 --> 02:01:24.789
to get fights with Canelo because he's such a

02:01:24.789 --> 02:01:27.390
huge star. He is that A -side. Oscar De La Hoya,

02:01:27.569 --> 02:01:30.430
the exact same thing. Floyd Mayweather, I mean,

02:01:30.449 --> 02:01:35.770
Felix Trinidad moved from Showtime to HBO. Floyd

02:01:35.770 --> 02:01:37.770
Mayweather, the exact same thing. Everyone came

02:01:37.770 --> 02:01:40.550
over. To that side, Miguel Cotto left top rank

02:01:40.550 --> 02:01:43.710
to fight Floyd Mayweather. But I think in this

02:01:43.710 --> 02:01:45.869
era, in the social media era, and what we're

02:01:45.869 --> 02:01:47.909
seeing with Tank for some reason is that fighters

02:01:47.909 --> 02:01:50.890
can scream, we want the biggest name. And then

02:01:50.890 --> 02:01:54.609
do the exact opposite of what everyone else does

02:01:54.609 --> 02:01:57.189
when they want the biggest names. And then somehow,

02:01:57.449 --> 02:02:01.310
it's the biggest name that is doing the ducking.

02:02:01.720 --> 02:02:04.140
or that is doing the avoiding. It's the weirdest

02:02:04.140 --> 02:02:05.920
thing in the world. Someone would be like, I

02:02:05.920 --> 02:02:08.460
definitely want that fight. Watch me do my best

02:02:08.460 --> 02:02:11.520
to make that fight as difficult as possible to

02:02:11.520 --> 02:02:16.880
make. And for some reason, they don't get taken

02:02:16.880 --> 02:02:19.720
a task for it. So there are a lot of different

02:02:19.720 --> 02:02:23.140
factors, a lot of different things that we see

02:02:23.140 --> 02:02:27.060
that maybe the general public doesn't. I want

02:02:27.060 --> 02:02:30.390
to say this. I'm not accusing Tank of ducking,

02:02:30.390 --> 02:02:31.710
that's for sure. I'm not accusing him of ducking.

02:02:32.609 --> 02:02:34.470
Haney's not even in his weight class. So I would

02:02:34.470 --> 02:02:36.409
never say, oh, Tank has to go fight David Haney.

02:02:36.569 --> 02:02:39.149
I don't feel that way. But I do feel that if

02:02:39.149 --> 02:02:41.010
it was to happen and they were going to happen,

02:02:41.130 --> 02:02:42.489
there would be certain terms on it. That's what

02:02:42.489 --> 02:02:44.729
I feel. That's not a fact. That's not anything.

02:02:44.850 --> 02:02:46.310
We would have to see if that plays out that way.

02:02:46.550 --> 02:02:48.350
I'm not accusing Tank of ducking. I wouldn't

02:02:48.350 --> 02:02:50.569
be surprised. They're two divisions apart. I

02:02:50.569 --> 02:02:54.329
would assume there probably would be. I would

02:02:54.329 --> 02:02:56.569
assume that too. Yeah, I don't think it negates

02:02:56.569 --> 02:03:01.529
anything at all. I hope it happens. I think that

02:03:01.529 --> 02:03:08.270
the sport is so fragmented, and particularly

02:03:08.270 --> 02:03:10.689
in those weight classes that attended a lot of

02:03:10.689 --> 02:03:14.130
things. Folks are arguing, not just about him,

02:03:14.250 --> 02:03:16.250
but they're arguing about all of those matchups

02:03:16.250 --> 02:03:19.420
and the difficulty. In making those matchups,

02:03:19.420 --> 02:03:21.340
we're seeing it now with all of those guys. And

02:03:21.340 --> 02:03:23.939
it's because of the fragmentation. So I think

02:03:23.939 --> 02:03:28.380
they all are dealing with that. Right now, it's

02:03:28.380 --> 02:03:30.930
unfortunate. Another thing where when Shakur

02:03:30.930 --> 02:03:33.510
and Haney were talking to me, it was the same

02:03:33.510 --> 02:03:35.130
thing on the rehydration clause in that fight

02:03:35.130 --> 02:03:37.350
as well. I said it cannot have a rehydration

02:03:37.350 --> 02:03:39.329
clause. I won't give Shakur full credit if it

02:03:39.329 --> 02:03:41.789
has a rehydration clause. And I thought that

02:03:41.789 --> 02:03:43.069
fight could, if it could happen to catch weight,

02:03:43.189 --> 02:03:44.770
I'm fine with that. A lot of people don't even

02:03:44.770 --> 02:03:46.729
like the catch weight part of it. I'm okay with

02:03:46.729 --> 02:03:48.369
that. If that takes to make a fight, I think

02:03:48.369 --> 02:03:50.609
that there's, I think that the weights are determined.

02:03:51.029 --> 02:03:52.430
Here's the thing, Ezra. Here's the thing, right?

02:03:52.689 --> 02:03:56.390
To me, maybe this is just me. Once you agree

02:03:56.390 --> 02:03:59.930
to a certain set of terms, I don't give a shit

02:03:59.930 --> 02:04:03.329
about anything else. Stuff in the ring, whatever

02:04:03.329 --> 02:04:06.409
happens, happens. No, because you, and this is

02:04:06.409 --> 02:04:08.689
a stupid, it's an extreme example. But like I

02:04:08.689 --> 02:04:09.970
said, you could tell a guy, put an arm behind

02:04:09.970 --> 02:04:11.369
your back and tie it. You know what I mean? I

02:04:11.369 --> 02:04:15.489
agree to it. Yeah, no, but the thing is. No,

02:04:15.609 --> 02:04:18.189
that is an extreme example because it's not real,

02:04:18.329 --> 02:04:21.470
and that's not boxing. But that's the logic,

02:04:21.470 --> 02:04:23.710
though. No, no, it's not the logic. Do something

02:04:23.710 --> 02:04:26.890
that relates to boxing. That's like, I could

02:04:26.890 --> 02:04:29.729
then say, okay, someone could put on a baseball

02:04:29.729 --> 02:04:32.510
glove. I mean, let's talk boxing here, right?

02:04:32.609 --> 02:04:36.550
I personally feel that it's that big an advantage,

02:04:36.789 --> 02:04:40.359
me personally. I feel that we are not getting

02:04:40.359 --> 02:04:43.380
the same fighter in the same level. Yeah, I agree.

02:04:44.380 --> 02:04:47.119
I agree, especially a 5 '5", 5 '6", guy going

02:04:47.119 --> 02:04:49.939
up 15 pounds. I'd agree. Definitely not going

02:04:49.939 --> 02:04:52.220
to see him at the same level. Okay, but so here's

02:04:52.220 --> 02:04:54.220
the thing, though, right? And this is the same

02:04:54.220 --> 02:04:56.180
thing. Kell Brook, right, he went up to fight

02:04:56.180 --> 02:04:58.819
Golovkin, right? He went up in weight. Now, Kell

02:04:58.819 --> 02:05:00.659
Brook, I think, was a very good fighter. I don't

02:05:00.659 --> 02:05:03.380
give Golovkin all the credit in the world for

02:05:03.380 --> 02:05:05.039
beating up Kell Brook because Kell Brook went

02:05:05.039 --> 02:05:06.819
up in weight. So I see it from your side of the

02:05:06.819 --> 02:05:09.479
thing, right? But Kell Brook went up and chose

02:05:09.479 --> 02:05:12.539
to do that. But it's not like Triple G gets the

02:05:12.539 --> 02:05:14.880
full credit of beating Kell Brook, who chose

02:05:14.880 --> 02:05:16.239
to jump all those weight classes, because that

02:05:16.239 --> 02:05:18.779
is what it is. The same thing when Canelo fought

02:05:18.779 --> 02:05:20.600
Crawford. If Canelo would have beat Crawford,

02:05:20.680 --> 02:05:22.579
I would have been like, no, Crawford's a smaller

02:05:22.579 --> 02:05:24.960
fighter. No, he's a very, very extremely talented

02:05:24.960 --> 02:05:26.760
fighter, but he's a smaller fighter. The reason

02:05:26.760 --> 02:05:30.420
why Crawford gets so much credit is because he

02:05:30.420 --> 02:05:33.979
did make that jump and everything. I get what

02:05:33.979 --> 02:05:36.039
you're saying, but I think - I get what you're

02:05:36.039 --> 02:05:38.079
saying, but I think the reality is, and the great

02:05:38.079 --> 02:05:40.159
thing about boxing is that you really don't know

02:05:40.159 --> 02:05:43.420
until you see the fight. And then you can sort

02:05:43.420 --> 02:05:47.039
of see what's what and why this is happening

02:05:47.039 --> 02:05:50.479
and so forth. For instance, we talked about Chavez

02:05:50.479 --> 02:05:52.500
versus Whitaker, which was at a catch rate of

02:05:52.500 --> 02:05:55.899
145. That was significantly more advantageous

02:05:55.899 --> 02:05:59.359
to Whitaker, right, than it was to Chavez. But

02:05:59.359 --> 02:06:01.119
we watched the fight and you knew right away,

02:06:01.319 --> 02:06:04.909
he's not beating this guy's ass. because he's

02:06:04.909 --> 02:06:09.109
significantly bigger than him. In fact, Chavez

02:06:09.109 --> 02:06:11.329
looked just as strong. He's beating his ass because

02:06:11.329 --> 02:06:14.390
he's significantly better than him. So I think

02:06:14.390 --> 02:06:18.750
in boxing, you kind of have to see what happens

02:06:18.750 --> 02:06:22.270
that fight night. So that's why I get what you

02:06:22.270 --> 02:06:23.729
were saying when you were like, don't switch

02:06:23.729 --> 02:06:25.710
after the fight. You know what I mean? Yeah,

02:06:25.710 --> 02:06:31.270
I'm stating my case now. But yeah, in boxing,

02:06:31.310 --> 02:06:33.029
you kind of have to wait and see it. And just

02:06:33.029 --> 02:06:35.050
to address my biggest fan one more time, talking

02:06:35.050 --> 02:06:36.449
about I have a love affair. You have a love affair

02:06:36.449 --> 02:06:39.090
with me, bro. You have a love affair with me.

02:06:39.250 --> 02:06:40.710
You keep talking about me, I don't even know

02:06:40.710 --> 02:06:42.569
you. This is what I love about New Yorkers. I

02:06:42.569 --> 02:06:47.649
don't even know you. I don't even know you. KB

02:06:47.649 --> 02:06:50.789
is making the same mistake that I used to. I

02:06:50.789 --> 02:06:52.689
used to peek at the comments while I'm talking,

02:06:52.789 --> 02:06:55.810
and I'll just be seated. I'll be honest with

02:06:55.810 --> 02:07:01.119
you, Matt. He literally every week, even when

02:07:01.119 --> 02:07:03.720
I'm not in the space or talking, literally every

02:07:03.720 --> 02:07:06.520
week he says something. So I appreciate it because

02:07:06.520 --> 02:07:08.100
it means I'm doing something right. You know

02:07:08.100 --> 02:07:12.359
what I mean? I get it. And let's not pretend

02:07:12.359 --> 02:07:14.319
like Devin Haney is going to die if he can't

02:07:14.319 --> 02:07:17.909
rehydrate to 170 pounds. Like, come on, man.

02:07:18.430 --> 02:07:20.989
Ezra, has your bias against Tank changed now

02:07:20.989 --> 02:07:23.010
that you know that that was a real conversation

02:07:23.010 --> 02:07:24.909
and they weren't trying to make it happen? I

02:07:24.909 --> 02:07:26.869
never had a bias towards Tank. I want to be fair

02:07:26.869 --> 02:07:30.970
with you. Ezra, we know what we have biased against,

02:07:31.050 --> 02:07:34.310
Ezra. We've been in the bases. Here's the one

02:07:34.310 --> 02:07:37.149
thing about me. If someone gives me information

02:07:37.149 --> 02:07:39.729
that's different from what I have, and I feel

02:07:39.729 --> 02:07:41.390
like that they have credible information, I will

02:07:41.390 --> 02:07:44.130
say, hey, I was wrong. That is happening. That's

02:07:44.130 --> 02:07:51.609
not true. That's not true. But that's what makes

02:07:51.609 --> 02:07:56.329
Ezra so great. The reason why I'm disappointed

02:07:56.329 --> 02:07:58.430
whenever Ezra's not on the show is because you

02:07:58.430 --> 02:08:01.189
know where he stands, what his stance is, and

02:08:01.189 --> 02:08:03.050
it's not going to change. He's going to stand

02:08:03.050 --> 02:08:05.970
strong on it, whether it's right. Or if it's

02:08:05.970 --> 02:08:08.090
wrong. You're 100 % right about it. And it's

02:08:08.090 --> 02:08:10.930
usually right. Now, the thing where you guys

02:08:10.930 --> 02:08:13.270
did not sway me is where I feel about a catchphrase.

02:08:13.270 --> 02:08:15.130
And what I feel like would take to make that

02:08:15.130 --> 02:08:16.710
fight happen. Well, you didn't answer my question.

02:08:16.829 --> 02:08:19.750
Did it change your bias knowing that he does

02:08:19.750 --> 02:08:22.470
want that smoke? He does want the top fighters.

02:08:23.029 --> 02:08:25.069
I think that he wants that fight under a certain

02:08:25.069 --> 02:08:27.010
term. That's what I feel. Now, whether you guys

02:08:27.010 --> 02:08:28.850
care about those terms, that's the opinion of

02:08:28.850 --> 02:08:31.960
the person watching. No, I think, I mean, to

02:08:31.960 --> 02:08:33.840
make a statement like that, I think all fighters

02:08:33.840 --> 02:08:37.100
want fights under terms. Yeah, I think every

02:08:37.100 --> 02:08:39.260
fighter wants fights under terms. I don't mind

02:08:39.260 --> 02:08:43.000
if you want it in your hometown. I don't mind

02:08:43.000 --> 02:08:45.420
if you - No, I mean, you just watch the court.

02:08:45.479 --> 02:08:48.720
Devin go back and forth about that. I mean, the

02:08:48.720 --> 02:08:51.720
reality is everyone wants certain terms. You

02:08:51.720 --> 02:08:53.100
sit at the table, you figure out what's best

02:08:53.100 --> 02:08:54.539
for both sides. There's a give and take, and

02:08:54.539 --> 02:08:57.899
you make it happen. And where I personally stand

02:08:57.899 --> 02:09:00.090
- is I don't like catchphrases, no matter who

02:09:00.090 --> 02:09:02.430
does it. I don't like it. If you put a catchphrase

02:09:02.430 --> 02:09:04.649
in someone, I will not give you full credit on

02:09:04.649 --> 02:09:06.569
that. I hope you're not giving Manny Pacquiao

02:09:06.569 --> 02:09:07.869
full credit for - No, no, no, but there's a thing,

02:09:07.970 --> 02:09:10.010
but here's the thing, right? I'm going to go

02:09:10.010 --> 02:09:12.979
back and I'm going to find - I'm going to go

02:09:12.979 --> 02:09:15.060
back and find every Pacquiao fight that had a

02:09:15.060 --> 02:09:16.420
rehydration clause. And if that's in all the

02:09:16.420 --> 02:09:18.140
upper weight classes, then I have to look at

02:09:18.140 --> 02:09:21.659
his career completely different. It started with

02:09:21.659 --> 02:09:25.659
the Morales fight. That is not on the same level

02:09:25.659 --> 02:09:27.619
that someone else is doing it. Because I don't

02:09:27.619 --> 02:09:29.399
think Floyd was putting rehydration clause on

02:09:29.399 --> 02:09:32.199
147 fighters. I don't think he was. No, Floyd

02:09:32.199 --> 02:09:35.859
was the quintessential 147 pounder. Exactly.

02:09:36.439 --> 02:09:38.220
He fought at 47 for a long time. He also took

02:09:38.220 --> 02:09:40.439
two years to get himself right. Yeah, but you

02:09:40.439 --> 02:09:43.100
know who Pacquiao didn't put a rehydration clause

02:09:43.100 --> 02:09:45.699
on? Who's that? The late, great Ricky Hatton.

02:09:45.840 --> 02:09:48.579
And it was an honor for Pacquiao to share the

02:09:48.579 --> 02:09:52.880
ring with him. It was the greatest tweet of the

02:09:52.880 --> 02:09:55.899
year, by the way. It was insane. I think that

02:09:55.899 --> 02:09:57.640
was a great tweet. I think people are too sensitive.

02:09:57.819 --> 02:10:00.079
And remember one thing, to the victor goes the

02:10:00.079 --> 02:10:02.600
spoils. I just want you to know that. Yeah, absolutely.

02:10:04.610 --> 02:10:07.170
Knocked me out cold. I would not put any shame

02:10:07.170 --> 02:10:08.890
on them. But every time it was something to do

02:10:08.890 --> 02:10:11.789
with me, they put that tweet out. Not in that

02:10:11.789 --> 02:10:19.109
post. They earned it. Hey, he said it was a great

02:10:19.109 --> 02:10:21.489
honor to share the ring with you, however briefly

02:10:21.489 --> 02:10:25.789
it was. Did he actually say that? Yeah. No, he

02:10:25.789 --> 02:10:28.329
didn't say that. He tweeted it. Wait, can you

02:10:28.329 --> 02:10:30.310
tell me verbatim what he said? Yeah, I don't

02:10:30.310 --> 02:10:31.649
know if that's the second part. I think Matt

02:10:31.649 --> 02:10:35.029
made up the second part. Okay, Matt. Yeah. That

02:10:35.029 --> 02:10:36.250
would have been a great tweet though, right?

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Every clip it was of him knocking down Hadid.

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Every punch landed was the one him knocking down

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Hadid. Like Hadid went down on the ground. Wait,

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did he show the highlights of the tweet too?

02:10:45.649 --> 02:10:48.069
Yes, there was a video with it. Is this a real

02:10:48.069 --> 02:10:50.069
thing? Hold on a second. Yeah, it was him being

02:10:50.069 --> 02:10:54.270
the hell out of Hadid. Every part of it. Wow.

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What a great tweet. He might have deleted that.

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Hey, I'll tell you this. If Ezra dies, I'm going

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to make a tweet with all the highlights of me

02:11:04.109 --> 02:11:07.390
roasting him on Brunch Boxing and say, how was

02:11:07.390 --> 02:11:10.029
I honored to share the mic with this guy? It'll

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be a three -second video. Brick Squad, yes, I

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read the rest of your comment. I mean, I don't

02:11:20.729 --> 02:11:22.630
know what you want me to say. You're talking

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about a love affair, but again, I don't know

02:11:24.409 --> 02:11:28.880
you. I think you have a love affair with me and

02:11:28.880 --> 02:11:31.960
I appreciate it. I want you to watch everything

02:11:31.960 --> 02:11:35.880
I do. Listen to every word I say. What did Carl

02:11:35.880 --> 02:11:38.800
Farge say? Come on, whisper it in my ear. Everything,

02:11:39.199 --> 02:11:42.560
everything that I possibly do, you keep reading

02:11:42.560 --> 02:11:44.420
it. And I'll try to read yours too. The difference

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is I don't know your name and I don't really

02:11:46.100 --> 02:11:51.140
care. Since we have you here, can you give us

02:11:51.140 --> 02:11:57.350
any other insights on the PBC DAZN? No, I think

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it's going to be great. I mean, I think for both

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sides. And so that was a great question Matt

02:12:02.770 --> 02:12:05.510
asked earlier. And that was a great answer. I

02:12:05.510 --> 02:12:08.970
mean, you said you think obviously that it's

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of greater benefit to us because of the amount

02:12:12.770 --> 02:12:14.449
of dates. So I understand why you're saying that,

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because I agree in terms of definitely gives

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more opportunities for the fighters and more

02:12:19.890 --> 02:12:21.130
dates, as you can see. And I think there are

02:12:21.130 --> 02:12:25.920
a lot of things that are in the works. I'm excited.

02:12:25.979 --> 02:12:31.159
I also think on our side that we have a very

02:12:31.159 --> 02:12:35.420
experienced team. We, in this country, have put

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on the biggest events, the biggest, since PBC's

02:12:40.779 --> 02:12:42.539
inception. So I think bringing that expertise,

02:12:42.760 --> 02:12:44.960
bringing that experience along with the roster

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that we have, it's a win -win for fight fans.

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And I think what we have to think about and what

02:12:51.960 --> 02:12:53.579
we're always thinking about is how can we grow

02:12:53.579 --> 02:12:56.770
the sport? How can we take this and go to sport?

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I love the TNT angle. And so I think it's going

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to be good. I'm excited. Okay, now you don't

02:13:03.850 --> 02:13:06.210
have to give us anything on this one. But please,

02:13:06.310 --> 02:13:09.010
I'm just sending this out here. Let's get David

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a heavyweight. Let's get David Benavidez a heavyweight.

02:13:11.050 --> 02:13:15.430
I've heard you for weeks saying this. I'm pretty

02:13:15.430 --> 02:13:19.609
money at this point. Please, get David a heavyweight.

02:13:19.949 --> 02:13:22.710
Let's make it happen. He could fight tomato cans.

02:13:22.770 --> 02:13:24.789
It will not matter. Let me tell you something

02:13:24.789 --> 02:13:27.149
coming from my community. It would not matter

02:13:27.149 --> 02:13:30.229
at all. We would be 100 % sold off. Wait, are

02:13:30.229 --> 02:13:33.329
you the spokesman for the community? I don't

02:13:33.329 --> 02:13:36.350
know. Someone has to be, I gotta tell you. And

02:13:36.350 --> 02:13:38.069
I'm looking at our representatives and I'm like,

02:13:38.109 --> 02:13:39.369
you know what? I might have to take the mantle

02:13:39.369 --> 02:13:43.449
here. My God. You know what? Anything can happen

02:13:43.449 --> 02:13:48.060
just because that's a guy who. When you're trying

02:13:48.060 --> 02:13:49.520
to make fights, no one's really in a rush to

02:13:49.520 --> 02:13:52.359
fight. It's actually hilarious the way these

02:13:52.359 --> 02:13:54.600
guys don't want to fight over it. I broke my

02:13:54.600 --> 02:13:57.020
leg. I'll be back in six months to fight someone

02:13:57.020 --> 02:14:02.180
else. It's insane watching what these guys are

02:14:02.180 --> 02:14:04.520
doing. So he may not have a choice. And I tell

02:14:04.520 --> 02:14:07.460
you what, I put my money up against anyone. Anyone.

02:14:07.880 --> 02:14:10.960
That's a bad, bad man. I laid out the plan for

02:14:10.960 --> 02:14:13.770
you guys. Let's get a can. We'll get a can. He'll

02:14:13.770 --> 02:14:15.430
destroy the can of heavyweight, and then let's

02:14:15.430 --> 02:14:18.069
get Andy Ruiz. Let's get Andy Ruiz, and I think

02:14:18.069 --> 02:14:19.970
that's a massive fight. Let's put it at Dodger

02:14:19.970 --> 02:14:23.670
Stadium, and I promise you that there will be

02:14:23.670 --> 02:14:27.550
beers, a drunk, and there will be people excited.

02:14:28.440 --> 02:14:30.439
Please, let's get out there. Terrible parking

02:14:30.439 --> 02:14:32.279
out there, KB. Do not do it out there. Yeah,

02:14:32.300 --> 02:14:35.159
it's terrible parking. I mean, you know, Ezra

02:14:35.159 --> 02:14:37.359
the analyst I love, the matchmaker, not so much.

02:14:37.520 --> 02:14:39.439
Oh, that's a great matchmaker. Yeah, he's a terrible

02:14:39.439 --> 02:14:41.939
matchmaker. Don't tell him that. Listen, there

02:14:41.939 --> 02:14:44.859
will be fights inside the ring, and there will

02:14:44.859 --> 02:14:46.819
be a bunch of fights outside the ring if that

02:14:46.819 --> 02:14:49.060
happens. Matt, it's about to be 1 .30 on the

02:14:49.060 --> 02:14:50.859
East Coast. We've been going for two hours and

02:14:50.859 --> 02:14:53.399
15 minutes. Send the people home. I don't even

02:14:53.399 --> 02:14:54.979
think I could park in this spot more than two

02:14:54.979 --> 02:14:59.359
hours. Damn. We ready to go already? So much

02:14:59.359 --> 02:15:01.119
more to talk about. We need to get through the

02:15:01.119 --> 02:15:03.739
rest of the roster. Because there's a very interesting

02:15:03.739 --> 02:15:05.939
name on here that I did not know was with PBC.

02:15:06.420 --> 02:15:09.159
And I'm talking about the fool of the week, Hy

02:15:09.159 --> 02:15:12.500
-Vee Munguia. The one of the week? The fool of

02:15:12.500 --> 02:15:15.920
the week. Why is he the fool of the week? Oh,

02:15:15.920 --> 02:15:18.800
man, you missed my segment. You missed my segment.

02:15:19.140 --> 02:15:20.979
Yeah, KB, please, you'll appreciate it if we

02:15:20.979 --> 02:15:23.380
don't touch on this. Let's just move past that

02:15:23.380 --> 02:15:25.930
part and talk about his career. All I'm going

02:15:25.930 --> 02:15:28.630
to say is the man went to Hong Kong and it wasn't

02:15:28.630 --> 02:15:35.949
in China. I mean, no comment. Yeah. No comment.

02:15:36.109 --> 02:15:40.250
But yeah, I mean, and granted, it's hard for

02:15:40.250 --> 02:15:44.170
us to keep up with the roster, but go to the

02:15:44.170 --> 02:15:46.130
PBC website. It's been there for a minute. Yeah,

02:15:46.130 --> 02:15:49.310
because it's very interesting to me that you

02:15:49.310 --> 02:15:51.789
guys have low -key signed some very interesting

02:15:51.789 --> 02:15:55.539
names that - There was no huge fanfare, but they're

02:15:55.539 --> 02:15:59.600
on the roster. I'm curious about these guys.

02:16:00.039 --> 02:16:03.100
I think in the entire span I've been here, I've

02:16:03.100 --> 02:16:06.520
seen announcements for fightings once, and that

02:16:06.520 --> 02:16:09.920
was Canelo. For fighters, signing fighters, I

02:16:09.920 --> 02:16:11.680
think that was once. We've never really been

02:16:11.680 --> 02:16:14.600
one. Which was the other one? The other one,

02:16:14.960 --> 02:16:21.079
Abel Mendoza. Actually, I'm not quite sure that's

02:16:21.079 --> 02:16:27.180
legit. Yeah. Hey, Tom. Oh, did he? Okay. Yeah,

02:16:27.699 --> 02:16:31.699
it is. It's legit. I haven't seen him fight,

02:16:31.720 --> 02:16:34.200
so I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if

02:16:34.200 --> 02:16:36.559
he's real or not. You're not the only one that

02:16:36.559 --> 02:16:39.459
hasn't seen him fight. You're not missing much.

02:16:39.799 --> 02:16:43.879
You're not missing much. Like he said, let's

02:16:43.879 --> 02:16:46.360
wrap this thing up. We clearly don't have anything

02:16:46.360 --> 02:16:49.260
else to talk about. Like he said, let's wrap

02:16:49.260 --> 02:16:51.559
this thing up. End of show. Here we just want

02:16:51.559 --> 02:16:53.950
to go watch soccer, so we'll let him go. All

02:16:53.950 --> 02:16:56.149
right. First of all, thanks to KB for popping

02:16:56.149 --> 02:16:59.329
in. It's hot as hell in the studio, man. Thanks

02:16:59.329 --> 02:17:02.190
to KB for popping in. Thanks to JBZ, the boxers,

02:17:02.209 --> 02:17:04.430
for popping in. And of course, Ty, Keep It 100

02:17:04.430 --> 02:17:09.030
Boxers. Love you, Ty. I appreciate your opinions.

02:17:09.090 --> 02:17:11.649
And all you guys, because I tune in every freaking

02:17:11.649 --> 02:17:14.579
Saturday. Now we just got to make us the official

02:17:14.579 --> 02:17:17.219
pockets of PBC and we're going to really get

02:17:17.219 --> 02:17:22.860
this going. I mean, just three rounds sparring

02:17:22.860 --> 02:17:28.959
with Tank and then we'll think about it. You

02:17:28.959 --> 02:17:31.340
have no idea how desperate I am for this to work.

02:17:31.459 --> 02:17:33.399
I might take you up on that offer. I don't care

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what beating I take. I've taken beatings before.

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We'll take another one to get on top. This has

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been another edition of Bunch Boxing. He's our

02:17:43.159 --> 02:17:46.059
COO, the Mexican Alhambra Mike. He is our producer,

02:17:46.319 --> 02:17:50.840
Huey P. He is our host, Ezra Boxen. I am Matt.

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We are Brush Boxen. And we are out.