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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good

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night, wherever you are in the world. This is

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Brunch Box and I'm your host, Matt. I'm here

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with a very special guest. We have the current

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WBA interim flyweight champion, former WBO junior

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flyweight champion, The Bomb himself, Jonathan

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Bomba -Gonzalez. What's going on, Jonathan? Thank

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you very much for having me here, man. It's a

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pleasure. Hey, listen, I appreciate you coming

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on the show, man. You have a fight that's coming

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up at GLC Live in Michigan, June 14th. Just a

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leader promotion's debut. Tell the people about

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your next event. Yeah, it's going to be June

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14th. I'm going to be an undefeated fighter in

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Paris. I'm ready to make my debut with Salido

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Boxing. I'm happy, happy to be here in this big

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event. I think I deserve to be here. I've won

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my space and I'm just ready to make it happen.

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Now, you definitely earned that title the hard

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way against Jaquiel Rivera, a fight where, let's

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be honest, you were not favored to win that fight.

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They brought you in expecting you to put over

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the young fighter. They were expecting you to

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lose, but you had something else for him. Can

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you just tell the people about that fight? What

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were your thoughts going into that fight, and

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how did you think you performed? I received a

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call from Amanda's, from MVP, right? They called

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me, oh, you want to fight John Kiernan? You say,

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when is the fight? The fight was going to be

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December 27th. I said, yes. We was talking like

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mid -September. I was not training fully, but

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I was doing something in the gym. I was running.

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I took the fight. I took the fight. It was a

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big opportunity for me. Once they put the name

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of John Gere, I said, yes, fag. Where's the contractor

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that signed it? I want to make it happen. During

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training camp, yo, it was a little bit difficult.

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Remember, I'm 35. I was 34. Age matters. It doesn't

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matter, but when camp was going well, yo, I said,

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yo, this guy can't beat me. He doesn't have the

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experience. He doesn't have the speed. He doesn't

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have... I don't see lying to him that he can

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beat me, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know,

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it's interesting because when I was breaking

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down this fight with the rest of, like, the crew,

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of course all of them picked Rivera. I picked

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you. And I said the reason why I'm picking you

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is because ain't no way. A guy with seven fights

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is beating fucking Jonathan Gonzalez. This dude

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has seven fights going into the fight. I'm like,

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there's no way he's losing to a guy with seven

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fights. Because experience does matter. I know

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in the lower weight classes, they say that you

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guys age quicker. But I just think what I saw

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from you in your most recent fights, I think

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you have a lot left in the tank. And I think

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that a lot of people will underestimate how much

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you have left in the tank. The problem is that

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now there's a new style that everyone wants to

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be Lomachenko. Everyone wants to be a champion

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fighting for 10, 2 fights, 3 fights, 4 fights.

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You know what I mean? But people should understand.

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Fighters should understand. Promoters should

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understand. Not everyone is Lomachenko. You know

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what I mean? Even he lost early. Even he lost

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early too, by the way. Yeah, yeah. He lost very

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early. And then he went to the Olympics in the

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pandemic. You know what I mean? But that's why

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I always say don't jump stages, man. Just do

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your path little by little. Yo, John Kelly, if

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he walks in the right path right now, he'll be

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world champion. He's a great fighter. The only

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thing that killed him was the experience. Yeah.

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Well, and I think this is just me personally.

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I think he kind of took a lot of punishment against

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you. I don't know how that's going to affect

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him going forward, but he took a lot of clean

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punches. Yeah, he took a lot of punches. And

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before my fight, he took punches too against

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Angelino Cordova. He took a lot of punches. That

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could affect him, but truly, I don't know. I'm

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not a doctor to say, but truly, punches, they

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put you bad, truly. As a fighter, because we've

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seen fighters take beatings in the ring before,

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but we've also seen early stoppages, bad stoppages.

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As a fighter, do you have any sense of when a

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referee should be stopping a fight? Like, yo,

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dude, can't you see this guy's getting beat up?

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You need to stop the fight now. I'm not going

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to say that. I'm not going to say the referee

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should have stopped the fight. I want to talk

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to his corner. Okay. I want to say corner should

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have stopped the fight. But sort of midnight,

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midnight round, I was in the best punches. You

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got a guy that doesn't have that much, doesn't

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have the power to knock me out. It could be,

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I'm not going to say no, but. The corner, I would

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have said, yo, they would have stopped the fight

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ninth round, eighth round. Right there, I was

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pushing myself up. Now, what made you decide

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to move up to flyweight? Because you were previously

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at junior flyweight. You were there for quite

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a few years, and then you decided to move up.

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What went into that decision? The weight. When

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I was an amateur, I was fighting in 1 -0 -12,

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right? I was a world champion, amateur world

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champion. I was a Central American gold medal

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champion. I was fighting in 112. I went to the

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pro 100 or so pounds. Then I lost. My first title

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fight was against Kosei Tanaka. I fought in 112.

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I didn't know how to make the weight. I was just

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using zona. I was using a lot of things I couldn't

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use. But Paquito from WBO told me, yo, you was

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beating up Kosei Tanaka, one of the Hall of Famers

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of Japan. Go down to 108, do one fight, do two

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fights in 108, try to do it, and we're going

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to give you a big majority. That's what I did.

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I did a fight, then we fought against Soto. Yeah,

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and you were able to beat Soto to become champion.

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Now, I want to talk about your... fight before

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the Rivera fight against Anthony Olasquaga. Because

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this fight was one of the fights that kind of

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pissed me off. I hit up Gustavo of the WBO because

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I wasn't happy with the decision that the commissioner

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in the WBO made. You get headbutt in the first

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round. You can't continue. Why is that fight

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a loss instead of a no contest? I respect I'm

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always, I have a personal opinion. I have a personal

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opinion about this fight. I don't, I wouldn't

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like to say it because truly right now I'm a

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WBA champion. I like, I love, I love the WBO.

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I respect the Japan Commission. But that was

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more politics, you know what I mean? More politics,

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more, more the company, more on a squad. It was

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more taking promotions, you know what I mean?

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We had a big company from Japan. But truly, I

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respect. I'm not going to say nothing bad about

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no one. It was a headbutt. It was not a punch.

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I've never stepped down a fight. I never ducked

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no one. Truly, it was a headbutt, a bad headbutt.

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But the commission just overturned the decision.

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I don't know why. I couldn't put a lawyer in,

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but I had to go to Japan, take the lawyer to

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Japan, fight a decision that is not 100 % that

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will change you back. Truly, but God does, God

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just does everything for a reason, you know what

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I mean? After I fight the squad, I got to be

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able to stand against John Kelly. Now, if all

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the squad decides to move up to flyweight, would

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you like to run that fight back? Oh, he is a

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flyweight. He's the WBO 112 fight champion, right?

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He got five defenses in the WBO. I would love

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to fight him, truly. I'm a WBA fighter right

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now. I'm an interim. But if there's one time

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they give me an opportunity to fight him, sure.

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Hell yeah. Now, what's your path to the full

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WBA flyweight title? Have they given you a deadline

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on when the champion has to face you? No, I don't

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really know. I don't really know. They haven't

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told me about nothing. They told me once I signed

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with Salida, Salida told me we're going to fight.

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We're going to fight now in June. I don't know

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what's going to happen after this fight. We have

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to win this fight first. Um, but yeah, I'm just

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leaving that, that, that sucks to Salida. You

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know what I mean? Now, um, obviously you're still,

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uh, that's your flyweight champion. You're going

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to be taking on Abraham Perez, undefeated fighter,

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a very good young fighter. Uh, how much do you

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know about him? And like, what's the game plan

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going into this fight? Truly, I don't know much.

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I don't know much on my team. I look at videos.

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Somebody just said, we don't look at videos.

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I do look at videos. Perez was not the only guy

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in line to fight me. First, I had three offers

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to fight Jean -Claude Herrera first in a rematch.

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That fight, he declined to fight once. His whole

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team said yes. Then he just declined it. That's

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a smart kid. That's a smart kid. Yes, he's a

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smart kid. Yeah, I know. His whole team, Peter

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Kahn, Mr. Ortega, everyone said yes. I said yes,

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too. But he declined the fight. I'm not going

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to blame him. Then we had a guy, I think it was

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a guy, Brohas. The last two had Rojas and Perez,

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right? And Rojas had like five losses. And Salida

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asked him, who do you want to fight? And I want

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to fight the undefeated fighter. He's raggedy.

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He said, yeah, he's raggedy. I want the best

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out there. Exactly, exactly. I'm not going to

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say he's a bad fighter. He's an awkward one,

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truly. But I think my experience is more than

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that. You know what I mean? My IQ, my speed,

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my angles. I'm going to use everything. I'm going

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to use everything on June 14th to win this fight.

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This is a meaningful fight for me. Maybe after

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this fight, I can fight for the legit champion.

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That's the way. I don't know who's going to fight.

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But this is my path. This is what I want. This

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is what I need. I'm going to win this fight to

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go to the legit championship. Now, earlier you

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did mention that you are 35. Sometimes the training

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camps are getting a little bit harder at this

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age. You're still boxing because you love it,

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clearly. But how much longer do you feel like

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you have in the game? Like I told Mr. Salido,

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after I signed with City Promotions, I'm going

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fight by fight, you know what I mean? I took

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the Jaguar fight. We won. I'm going to take the

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Paris. I'm taking the Paris fight. I'm a defeated

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fighter. Great, a good fighter. I'm going to

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take fight by fight, you know? I'm going to take

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this one, then the other one. I don't know, shoot,

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when I'm going to retire, I think I'm not getting

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that punished in my career. I can still talk.

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I remember everything. I think I'm 100%. But

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I think right now I'm in my best moment, you

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know what I mean? In condition. My mindset in

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the ring, I'm more intelligent. I don't get tired.

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I know how to do weight already. I'm in my best

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game right now. I think at the age of 35, I'm

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very mature. Now, I want to talk about your mindset

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because it kind of blows my mind that you have

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been on a run of fighting young in their prime

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fighters. You know, at your age, you're still

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fighting the young guys. Why are you still taking

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on these challenges? Because this is what pumps

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me up, you know what I mean? It pumps me up,

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makes me, I want to fight the best. I want to

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fight the ranked fighters. I don't want to fight

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people that are not ranked. It doesn't matter

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if you're not ranked, you're going to be good.

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But we want all the big dogs, you know what I

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mean? I think knocking out or... taking Perez

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to school is going to put me on another level.

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You know what I mean? Another level more higher

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than what I'm right now. And fighting undefeated

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fighters is just good for the TV, good for me,

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good for my career. You know what I mean? I fight

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in three undefeated fighters. I lost against

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one. That was Kosei Tanaka, but other guys are

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all beautiful. Now, you... I want to say been

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boxing since you were like, what, like four years

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old? Six, seven. How did you get into the sport

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of boxing? My father was a boxer. He was a Golden

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Glove champion in New York. Two -time Golden

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Glove champion. Two -time Golden Glove. Come

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on, man. Show some respect to your dad, man.

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Two times. Two times. That's my dad. That's my

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dad. Yeah. In the 80s and the 80s, he was a two

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-time Golden Glove champion. He inspired me.

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He put me in the sport of boxing. Since then,

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he's been there with me. Yeah. Now, you've been

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boxing professionally since 2011. It took you

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a while, like a long while, almost 10 years to

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get a world title. Did you ever doubt your journey

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along the way when you maybe had a setback? on

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your way to a world title? Yeah, man. I was about

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to retire. You know, I studied. I studied. I'm

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a dealer, a group deal dealer. I studied that.

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Casinos. I used to work in the casinos. I started

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to retire, but when I went down from the Kosei

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Tanaka fight and they gave me the machine to

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go to 108, I need to invest in my career. I need

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to get the best people out there to help me.

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You know what I mean? Because I used to drain

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down to make weight. I used to, yo, bad, yo,

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bad. I'm telling you, bad. But right now, I make

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weight okay. I don't use sauna. I don't use plastic.

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I just use the plastic two or three days before

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the weighting. But right now, I'm just so mature.

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I'm disciplined. I do everything like my team

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says. And that's why I'm here where I am right

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now. Because I'm here in my corner. I'm here

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with all the people around me. The people that

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work with me. I'm in my best moment right now.

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I think so. Yeah, man. You seem to be at the

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height of your powers right now. Now, you fought

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so many different fighters throughout the years.

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What would you say? Is your favorite performance

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in your career? I have two. I have to say my

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two world title fights against Soto, right? Because

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I was a 9 -1 underdog. That was one of my best

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performances because I was locked in. And the

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Janken fight because I was an underdog 5 -1.

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And I said, yo, these are two fights that I have

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to put in the top. Because those are two fights

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that put me to the next level. They put me in

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the map again. And those are two fights that

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I was in my A game. I was in my A game. No one

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could beat me that night. Yeah, he definitely

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was a beat you that night. Now, you were born

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in the Bronx. What part of the Bronx were you

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born in? Grand Conkers. Oh, let's go. Okay, okay.

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Yeah, because I'm from New York, too, so I'm

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familiar with the Bronx. But you are a Puerto

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Rican fighter. You know, that island is, it's

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a small island, but it's rich with so much boxing

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history. Like, how much do you look at the Puerto

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Rican boxing history, and where do you feel like

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you rank amongst the Puerto Rican legends? Yo,

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Puerto Rico has mad legends. We're talking about

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from Gomez, Trinidad, Cotto, Calderon, Benitez,

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Macho, bro. It's hard to put him in a spot right

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now in the legacy of Puerto Rico. Yo, right now,

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we have Mr. Collazo, yo. Aspar just said, it's

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all around with Collazo, right? This guy is a

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bad dude. This is a bad dude. But my legacy,

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I don't know where I put myself, but there's

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truly great fighters in Puerto Rico. And I can't

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say that right now. We have too much fighters.

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Great fighters. We throw Gomez. We throw Vasquez.

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Ivan. I'm not near that yet. Who would you say

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is your favorite Puerto Rican fighter of all

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time? I like Trinidad, but Trinidad is a more

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puncher fighter. I'm more boxer. I prefer Miguel

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Cotto. Okay. Hey, listen, Cotto, you know, low

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-key had like a really, really legendary career,

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man. Like a lot of people don't realize just

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how many guys he fought, how many titles he won.

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Like Cotto. for the new generation of Puerto

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Rican fighters, he really did the island proud.

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No, he's a fourth division world champion, the

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first one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, I know you

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have fought a lot of guys you fought all over

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the world. Now you're fighting back here in the

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United States, and you're going to be headlining

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on the zone. What does it mean to you to be really

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the star of the show coming up? I'm glad. I'm

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glad. I'm happy. I want to thank DAZN. I want

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to thank Salida for Motion. I think I truly deserve

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to be here. I've been all these years on the

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dog. I've been all these years on the B -side.

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You know what I mean? With John Kidd, I was on

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the B -side. With Ola Squaga, I was on the B

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-side. With V. Watts, I was on the B -side. With

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Soto, I was on the B -side, bro. With Tanaka.

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I'm just happy, man, being the A -side, being

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the house promoter. That's why I'm getting very

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prepared. I'm better now than I was when I was

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a young kid. I've taken this very serious. This

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is my debut with my new promoter. You got a four

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-fight deal. I'm going to make all four fights.

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Now, for those, because I always ask this of

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every fighter, for those who haven't seen you

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fight before, What should they be expecting to

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see out of you on June 14th? Everything depends

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what Perez brings to the table, okay? If he wants

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to box, I will get him. If he wants to brawl,

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I will brawl. If he wants to fight inside, I

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will fight inside. If I got to box, I will box.

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But I'm going to get, I'm trying to, this is

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my debut with the zone and I'm trying to get.

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I'm going to try to get a knockout, you know

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what I mean? I'm not going to look for it, but

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I think I can do it. I think I have all the abilities,

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have the speed, have the IQ. I don't know, Paris

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is not that fast, you know what I mean? I think

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that's one of my advantages in this fight. But,

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like I said, I'm going to do anything he wants

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to do. Yeah, listen, I can't wait, man. Real

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quick, just tell the people where they can follow

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your journey at and plug all your social medias.

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I got Instagram, Bomba KO, and Bomba Jonathan

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Gonzalez on Facebook. You can follow me there.

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I'm always online. Are you on Twitter? I got

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Twitter. I think it's Jonathan Gonzalez. I don't

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use it a lot, but Jonathan Gonzalez. All right,

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man. Well, listen, I appreciate you for joining

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me, man. Best of luck, June 14th. I'm looking

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forward to seeing it. I'm looking forward to

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you raising your hand in victory, man. He got

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us first, man. Bamba Gonzalez, ladies and gentlemen.