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Cities never sleep, but neither do the creatures that might hide in their shadows.

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From the towering skyscrapers of New York to the winding alleyways of London, there

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are whispers, stories of beings who walk among us, unseen, unnoticed.

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They are the night stalkers, the urban legends, the modern day vampires.

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But aren't they just myths, or could they be real?

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Welcome to Urban Vampires, do night stalkers lurk in modern cities.

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I'm your host, Robert Cavalier, and tonight, we're diving into the dark heart of the urban

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landscape to uncover the truth behind one of the most enduring legends of all time,

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the vampire.

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Vampires have haunted our imaginations for centuries.

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From the bloodthirsty Count Dracula to the brooding immortals of modern pop culture,

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they've always been a symbol of our deepest fears and desires.

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But what if they're not just characters in books or movies, what if they're out there,

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right now, blending into the crowds, hiding in plain sight?

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Tonight we'll explore the chilling possibility that vampires aren't just creatures of folklore,

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they could be living among us in the very cities we call home.

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But before we go any further, let's set the stage.

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Imagine this, it's midnight in a sprawling metropolis, the streets are alive with the

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hum of traffic, the glow of neon signs, the murmur of late night crowds.

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In the shadows, something stirs, a figure moves silently, watching, waiting.

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Pale skin, sharp features, eyes that seem to pierce the darkness.

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Is it just your imagination, or is it something else?

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This isn't just a scene from a horror movie, it's a reality that some people claim to have

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experienced.

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From the Highgate Vampire of London to the rumored Manhattan Vampire Gland, urban legends

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about vampires that persisted for decades.

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And then there are the real live vampire communities, people who identify as vampires

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who drink blood or feed on energy and who live hidden lives in the heart of our cities.

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But why cities?

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Why do these stories thrive in the urban jungle?

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Well think about it, cities are places of anonymity, of constant movement, in a crowd

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of millions it's easy to disappear, to go unnoticed, and in a city that never sleeps,

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the night is always alive, perfect for creatures of the dark.

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Over the next hour we'll hear from experts, researchers, and even members of the vampire

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subculture.

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We'll delve into eyewitness accounts of vampire-like figures stalking the streets, we'll explore

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the history of vampire legends and how they've evolved to fit the modern world, and we'll

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ask the question, are these stories just urban myths or is there something more to them?

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But before we go any further let me point you to this, in 1970 London was gripped by

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a wave of vampire hysteria.

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People reported seeing a tall dark figure with glowing eyes lurking in Highgate Cemetery.

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Vampire hunters patrolled the graves, armed with stakes and holy water, and while the

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panic eventually faded, the legend of the Highgate vampire lives on.

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Was it mass hysteria, a clever hoax, or was there something or someone real behind the

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stories?

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Tonight we'll uncover the truth behind the legends, we'll hear from those who claim

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to have encountered vampires in the modern world, we'll explore the philosophy, the

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psychology, and the cultural significance of these stories, and we'll ask, could vampires

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really be lurking in our cities?

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So grab your headphones, turn down the lights, and join me as we step to the shadows, because

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in the world of night stalkers the line between myth and reality is razor thin.

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Welcome back to the Phenomenal Case Files Podcast and tonight I'm excited to dive right

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into this vampire subject I've been really wanting to do an episode like this, it's

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been in the works for a while, and we're going to talk about real vampires, do they exist,

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in urban setting modern day cities.

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But let's get a little bit of background before we dive into that aspect which is going to

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be the meat of the episode, and look into a little bit of the background of vampires,

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of vampirism, and as we all know we associate them vampires with the Slavic Eastern European

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lore, which of course is really interesting, and the word I looked it up, it does originate

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from there, there are other possibilities, Greek, Turkish, but nobody can be really sure

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about where the stories really originated, where that word really originated, it's important

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because it leads us to where did it all start, and indeed in Eastern Europe in the 18th century

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there was a peak of these stories, you could call it the vampire hysteria epoch, as some

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of the researchers that I've bumped into have dubbed it, and even before that it's predated,

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in fact it's predated by thousands of years all the way to the Babylonians, the Egyptians,

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even the Indians have this vampire lore, and I'm not going to get into that aspect as

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much even though it is exciting, maybe we'll do that a little later on, but for now I really

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want to look at how these mythical figures, or these legends, these really just horror

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stories of a long time ago, seeped into our modern world, and of course we know that that

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happened through fiction, most famously Dracula, and other novels, and just there's a plethora,

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there's an abundance of things to draw on, but it is thought that vampires first, when

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we were less situated in cities and most of the world was really rural, that those stories,

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those legends had a more rural beginning, in other words there were these vampires,

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stocking victims at night in villages, and the famous scenes come to mind of villagers

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with pitchforks and so on, and that's where it came from, and as time went by and more

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people moved into cities, becoming more and more the focus of daily living, so did vampires,

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and we start seeing that especially in the 18th century, we start seeing that, and that's

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really when we're talking about, well, the 1700s and then really moving into the 1800s,

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which was the 19th century when Industrial Revolution was really kicking up, we see

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these bigger cities supporting a bigger population, and so did these stories that they brought

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from their villages, or we could look at it another way, if this is real, and if you think

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this is real, and that's what we're going to dive into and talk about, vampires maybe

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just followed people into a better place, a better setting to stock, to hide in plain

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sight.

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Some of the things I want to overview are the Highgate Vampire of London, the Manhattan

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Vampire Clan, the Chicago Vampire Scene, and the Parisian Night Stalker. I may only cover

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the first couple of these and really just highlight the Highgate Vampire because that is one

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of the latest and most modern accounts that I was able to find. I'm interested in city

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accounts in particular because that's where most of us live, and I'm just really interested

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in to know if anybody has seen a vampire in modern days, especially the 80s, 90s, 2000s,

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all of these years where we have been so focused on these metropolis, New York City, I was

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really hoping to find those stories. I found other sources, and I'm hoping still to have

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some stories come in. Cities are a magnet for all kinds of commerce and enterprise and

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people of all walks of life looking for opportunities to prosper. According to an article on timeout.com,

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New York City is the best city for vampires. This is a fun little article and I'd like

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to just highlight it before we head into more serious grounds. The article even, of course,

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it's tongue in cheek. It goes into the statistics and the criteria of why New York City would

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be the optimal place for a vampire to live in, followed by Chicago, and I agree with

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that. I think Chicago would be great. Seattle is number 13, so there's about 13 cities.

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There's a map on the website on timeout.com of this fun little article, which if you get

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a visual of the US, you see that the top sites are pretty much the eastern board right there

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by the latitude of New York and neighboring states like Pennsylvania, DC, and other places

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in Chicago. Then as you move far, far west, you don't see as many, although I was surprised

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to see some in the southwest that ranked higher than I would have expected, given the warmer

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climate and the more sunlight, the sunnier. That's a fun thing. It says here that the

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worst cities for vampires are, number one surprise, Arizona. Arizona just takes the

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first about six or seven slots, then Nevada, and then Lancaster, California, Huntington,

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Beach, California. It doesn't mention LA, but I think LA would be a good place for vampires.

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What do you think? Going back to the best, not just New York, Chicago, Philadelphia,

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LA is listed as number four, so I take it back. They did look at that. San Francisco.

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We'll talk about a little bit about San Francisco because that reminds me of a series that took

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place there, an old TV show. Then Pittsburgh, and then Baltimore should have been higher

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too with Edgar Allan Poe, Lore, and all that. The criteria is fun and won't spend too much

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time on it, but the cities that have the most blood centers, the fewest blood centers,

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that's not as optimal. It goes in like most casket suppliers, fewest casket suppliers,

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highest share of homes with basements. I'm not sure why that's important. I guess that's

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where you would put a basket. It's got to look an infographic that you look at. If you're

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a vampire, you might make your decisions based on this. Nightlife options are going to be

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great in New York, Chicago, Las Vegas, all these kinds of places. I don't think Las Vegas

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would be good for a vampire. It's too hot. Who knows? Maybe they can hide in plain sight.

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We'll talk about that. That is a little bit silly. Even the article says here, while this

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might be silly to you, New York City has some history with vampires. In the 1870s, people

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used to drink blood collected from slaughterhouses, especially one on 34th Street by the Hudson

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River. They drink cups of blood collected straight from the necks of freshly slaughtered

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steers. They believed the blood could treat all kinds of diseases. Wow, that's a little

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nugget among all this fun thing. I cannot fathom people actually thinking that this

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would have a therapeutic benefit to them. Pretty gross.

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Cities are moving on from the tongue-in-cheek and the fun of that article. If you think

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about it in logistical terms, cities would provide the perfect cover for vampires. There's

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an anonymity there as a city dweller. The darkness, the constant movement, the way in

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which city dwellers, including myself, are usually distracted with something else. We

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have somewhere to go. We don't want to talk to anybody. We want to just be in our own

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little world, reading a book or on our phones or listening to music or pretending we just

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don't notice people when we actually do notice them. We look at them and we observe that's

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the fun part about living in a city, watching people, what are they doing and judging them.

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Maybe there's a vampire judging us and I think they would. What are these people doing? I

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think that those logistical aspects of a real vampire, not the mythical, not the Hollywood,

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but the real deal, would likely look at a city as a perfect place to hide in plain sight.

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This brings me to, I touched upon a little bit on a series that I remembered and I'm

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kind of just excited about talking about this. This whole thing is just a preface for me

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to talk about some geeky stuff from the past. I remember a show that's based on, some people

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might know this one, it's based on a role-playing game that I never played or knew about back

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then. This was in the, like, this show was called Kindred the Embraced. It came out in

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1996 and I believe it was on Fox, I'm pretty sure. It ran for eight episodes and the ninth

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was never shown. It got cancelled really fast but it was a really, really good show. I was

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kind of a kid back then, pretty young and I got sucked into it. I loved it. I loved

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the way some factions were presented. These are city-dwelling modern vampires, that's

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the premise, but they have figured out how to live among people and with the benefits

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of being immortal. Even if you lived just 150 years, you could accumulate quite a bit

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of wealth. If you did that across time and develop some kind of clan system, some kind

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of secret society, even some modern investments, some land acquisition, you could buy land

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really cheap in, say, San Francisco in the 1800s and then turn around 100 years later

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and it's just worth millions and millions. Not that hard to get rich if you make some

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conventional choices along the way and if you live a very long time. The trick then is

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how do you hide all of that, how do you hide the fact that you're not aging, you're not

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dying and you're living way past your years. In this show, it's based on about five factions

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and they're called Torridor and so forth. I'll go into it a little bit more. Maybe

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I loved it because each faction has its own characteristics and each faction has an agreement

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or a truce of non-violence at the minimum, say, like the Nosferatu which are under city

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dwellers and they can't really go and have the benefit of, say, like the Torridors or

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something which are more artistic and they don't have the stigma or the disadvantage

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of looking really disfigured. I don't know if I would call Nosferatu disfigured but they

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have these long ears, this bald head, this gray skin, these long fangs, picture the famous

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1920s silent movie Nosferatu and that's what they look like in the show. I'm still talking

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about the show but I like the show because the show is based on and I learned this way

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later on a role-playing game in which all these factions have to compete or collaborate

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or ally or fight each other to some degree. The series starts with a detective that because

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of the piloting, he becomes aware that vampires are real. These are real vampires and then

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he gets sucked into the society as he investigates a little bit more and there's a beautiful

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woman and a beautiful actress in there too who gets involved with one of the main vampires.

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The big criticism of the way that the show was deployed was that people compared it to

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kind of the godfather of vampirism and just, I didn't think that it was bad and they could

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have maybe done it a little bit better. It wasn't like, it was a bit like a mafia system

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but it makes sense for vampires to have a secret society like I said before and to accumulate

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wealth and to figure out a way to coexist first among themselves with really strict

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rules that they must enforce such as there are rules of who becomes, who gets to increase

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their numbers in their clan or their faction by adding a new member who gets to do that

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and wonder what circumstances and it's strictly something that needs to be agreed upon. It's

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a bit like a guild system. It's a lot like that actually and it makes sense just in the

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economics of it and it makes sense also because you would have a small circle of friends that

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in the show for instance they own nightclubs and restaurants and have a lot of wealth.

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Doing that is the ultimate protection. Money is probably the greatest power that we at

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least humans could at least touch upon in our limited lives and if you're an immortal

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then that really sort of doubles up because then yes you could be exclusive. You don't

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have to be front facing with people. Your group of people that you know would be small

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enough because you don't have to have unless you're really not a well performing vampire

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or something, I don't know, a day job. Obviously you couldn't because you're a vampire but

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if you wouldn't have to have an office job you would have to just make sure that you

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stay within the confines of certain behaviors that are expected from you and survive that

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way and persist at least for a long time really and especially in a city. People don't really

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delve into other people's business as much. In a city like New York City that should be

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easier and if you're just interacting with people that are mostly vampires and maybe

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some people that are not, they come in and out, you know that's not hard to pull off.

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That logistical part of the series I liked a lot. I know I'm talking a lot about it

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but it's just exciting and it was exciting back then. As it turned out the public was

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not really that ready even though I think it was growing the actual thing that got the

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show cancelled was that the lead actor, he actually died in a motorcycle accident. He

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was a cool guy and whatnot and he died in a car accident so they couldn't go forward.

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I think they could have still gone forward without him. I mean he was alright but they

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didn't and that was the end. I always wanted to know if the 9th episode is similar. I actually

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own the DVD mini series collection of that from way back in the day. It's probably 20

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something years old. When it first came out I said I'm going to get this and I got it

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and it's probably worth a lot more now because that's how things go. But as I said it's based

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on this masquerade game, Vampire the Masquerade game which I've gotten a chance to actually

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observe. I was taking an English course a while back, a literature course a while back

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and I got to know really cool types and they were all into all different kinds of things

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and one of them invited me to a Vampire the Masquerade role-playing game that I'd never

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seen because he got to talking about vampires and as it turns out he and I may have him

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on later on, he writes vampire fiction. So the game is really cool and it takes a long

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time and it's a great way to delve into this culture and you can go to www.theworldofdarkness.com

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and it has been revamped. It's not the old Vampire the Masquerade role-playing game but

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it's got more factions. I believe there's 13 and each one of them has a corresponding,

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each clan then has a corresponding book. I'm not going to judge, it's a little bit pulpy

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but it's alright and it goes into each and every clan's lore and it kind of weaves a

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big story out of these 13 series books. There's 13 in the series because there's 13 clans

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and then it got revamped into what it is now. I think they made a video game of it and it's

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considered sort of like a flawed gem because it's people that are in this subculture of

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gaming and role-playing games. They really appreciate things that come new but sometimes

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they're not completely workable. In its most recent iteration it looks to me amazing. I

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don't have time to really delve into a lot of these things as I'm preparing for these

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shows and writing myself and doing all sorts of things but man if you do have a chance

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to get into that or want a new hobby I think that would be a great way to meet new people

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because they do it in person and that's a great way. You have a few beers, you play

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and you get to participate and dive into this lore and create lore. They're creating a story

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as they go along based on the parameters of the game. Having said that I wanted to look

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seriously at vampirism and that takes us to some very different grounds because if vampires

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are real then we have to start to begin to understand them as any real ecological phenomena

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as something that exists just like anything else that has its own prerogatives, its own

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reason, its own motivations and they maybe very, in fact they should be or would be very

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very different than yours and mine. Their style of survival and their style of living

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would be completely different and you always think as a person, as a mortal, as a mere

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mortal well wouldn't it be nice to live a long, long, long life say hundreds of years

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but even if you're already just middle age or somewhere along the line you have to think

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how and at what point do things just become repetitive? How do you keep alive the impetus

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for living? Of course in the lore of vampirism that kind of living that they're doing is

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really not living but it's almost like a cursed kind of a living. It's tied to the need to

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feed and to in some cases become so isolated that any remnant of humanity becomes more

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and more vanishing as time goes by and you could imagine all kinds of mental health challenges

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and problems emanating and just exacerbating becoming even more troublesome. The mind of

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a vampire that's say 300 or 500 years old versus one that's 150 might be very very different,

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two very different generations and the definition of generations even being completely turned

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upside down if they do interact with each other in some kind of basis as they do in

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this sort of thought experiment or game of vampire masquerades or if they exist now

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what kind of life do they live? Are they isolated? Do some choose to as a way to survive or some

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choose to just go it alone and have a very small amount of friends or do some become

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involved with humans, have friendships, develop them, lose them, have to walk out on them

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at some point because otherwise they'll be privy to the fact that they're not aging and

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that's a premise of another show Highlander which is not about a vampire but it's also

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delving into these ideas of immortality and the pain of if you in the show, in the show

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it was a show too and then before it was of course a movie with Christopher Lambert as

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a Scotsman, a Frenchman as a Scotsman, well it was the 80s and I loved it but you have

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to you start to look at this and it becomes this very interesting thought experiment.

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What is the feasibility of a creature like that actually existing, actually lurking

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and what kind of strategies is it deploying to survive, to make it among us and to figure

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out its own existence, you know, very often we think about vampires especially nowadays

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more as a tragic figure, somewhat romantic figure, a figure at conflict with itself,

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an antihero and Carl Jung might have referred to them as not an archetype but a subset of

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an archetype, something like the emanating from the shadow, the shadow people, the shadow

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man, you know, something that represents an archetype of darkness, of conflict, of evil,

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of descent and as we've lived with these stories we've also changed them and we have to wonder

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have we changed them because fiction changes and our attitudes change and that's just

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the way it goes or is it based on something real?

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Did we have we experienced, are we experiencing anything in the modern age that we could approximate

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to that?

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So I want to take you to some very interesting tidbits that I found, some clips and regarding

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first witness accounts because that's what I really wanted to find and the first one

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actually all the clips are related to the first event that I mentioned earlier and that

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was the High Gate of London, that was a cemetery, it was back in the late 60s, right around

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69 and I'll preface by saying that this was an event that was very well documented although

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the sources of how it was documented and what started everything going, we'll get into that

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too because there's a little bit of perhaps showmanship, perhaps hysteria and perhaps

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real accounts.

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One of those accounts comes from a young man named David Farrand and David was a local

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young man who was drawn to the paranormal at the time and it's late 1969 when he starts

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hearing whispers about strange beings at the cemetery, strange sightings.

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On one of those occasions he claims to have bummed into two people, I don't know at which

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times, it looks like he had interviewed them because he was investigating and the first

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account of that is from an older lady and this is David Farrand recounting that.

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We set the stage a little bit before I get to the clip, the cemetery had actually served

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pretty well off people since about the 1800s or earlier, it's a really beautiful cemetery

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and it was even more in its heyday containing elaborate mausoleums, huge statues of angels,

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tall trees, well taken care of gardens but by the time David Farrand makes his way there,

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in the 1960s and late 1960s and before that, it had fallen into disarray and it was known

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that it had been trespassed and subject to some vandalism and some graves that had even

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been disturbed.

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There were also rumors of rights or secret rights carried out by different groups so

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at that time I found some footage of different retelling this account and it's a bit rough

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so bear with me and let's listen in now.

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I am David Farrand, a psychic investigator and over 20 years ago I began an investigation

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into what was one of the most chilling accounts of vampirism in the 20th century.

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It was the case of the Highgate Vampire circulating about a tall dark figure that had been seen

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in and around Highgate Cemetery.

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It invariably took shape of a tall figure and many witnesses described it as wearing

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a cloak.

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Apart from this, many people remarked on its eyes.

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One old lady that I interviewed personally in 1969, for example, was walking her dog

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at Swain's Lane, late at night and suddenly when she reached the main gate, the dog suddenly

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stopped and refused to go any further.

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The wind had turned around and the price of her treats.

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At this moment the old lady looked up and just inside the main gate she described a

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tall dark figure with glaring red eyes which seemed to be floating towards her.

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Obviously she didn't stay much longer than that and she quickly went back down Swain's

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Lane with her dog.

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She also told me that the surrounding area had turned icy cold.

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The first account is very brief and atmospheric but there is that important detail if you

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noticed toward the end of the temperature plummeting.

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Let's keep that in mind as we move on to the second account.

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This is about a man who had also wandered into the vicinity of the cemetery.

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Here again, David Ferrant in his own words.

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Then again there was the case of a 45 year old accountant who I referred to as Thornton

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because he asked for his correct name to be the Keld.

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And he had gone into Highgate Cemetery at around this time really just to look around.

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It was a late afternoon and at that time Highgate Cemetery was open to the public.

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Unfortunately perhaps for Thornton he became hopelessly lost and he couldn't find his

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way back to the main park.

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He was quite near the large circle of tombs in the middle of the cemetery known as the

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Colombele and he heard the bell go so he thought the best thing to do was just to make his

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way towards the sound of the bell and then go to find his way out.

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All of a sudden Thornton became aware of something behind him.

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At this stage he didn't know exactly what it was but he had an overwhelming sense that

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someone was watching him and again he noticed that the temperature in the surrounding area

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had dropped quite considerably.

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He swung around and he described Thornton's dark figure which was looking at him with

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intensity.

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He told me that it was almost as if this figure was trying to hypnotise him in any event.

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He seemed to be losing control of his normal faculties.

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At this point without warning the figure suddenly vanished and Thornton stumbled around in the

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cemetery and eventually he found the main park and he never returned.

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Notice the details in the second account.

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It gets much more physiological, the impact, the atmosphere, the plummeting of the temperature.

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All of these are interesting and they come about in different accounts of encounters

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with a paranormal.

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David Ferrand is retelling this many years later and there's reenactment of the sounds

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and so forth.

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It's pretty choppy and I appreciate you listening to that.

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It's important because it's very rare to get an account of a vampire sighting.

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I looked and looked and looked and even people I thought would make up something and tell

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their dubious accounts.

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There weren't many.

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There's a lot of sightings of ghosts, cryptids and all kinds of things but vampires are hard

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to find.

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These accounts, if true, are really a gem and really unique and we need to pay attention

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to what they're sharing.

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If there's anything to find out about these, the urban vampire is really a very, very mystical

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and very, very cunning creature that, because of its intelligence, knows how to hide well

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among people.

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This one seems to be a little bit different.

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I want you to pay attention to the details that Ferrand shares about him because it's

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not as though he's trying to hide this sighting.

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He's a very eerie and very intent predatory feeling to the whole thing.

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So Ferrand, again a young and petrous man at the time and interested in the paranormal,

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decides to do his own investigation.

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He spends the night at the cemetery.

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This is Ferrand in his own words.

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I suspected it could have been maybe a large animal which descriptions are distorted.

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I even suspected that it could have been some very human person, dressed up with the intention

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of frightening people.

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But whatever, it was around midnight, late in 69, and as I passed the top gate of my

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cemetery, I became aware, I caught sight of something out of the corner of my eye, and

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I looked up.

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Well rather I looked around and I saw a tall figure.

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It must have been about seven-thorieth tall.

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I couldn't tell but it's almost as if it was floating just above the ground.

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But I distinctly saw its face, or rather I saw two points of intense red light which

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I took to be its eyes.

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At first, it was so real that at first I thought it was somebody dressed up as a vampire.

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But the area turned icy cold.

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It was almost as if you had steps into a refrigerator.

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More important still, a figure or whatever it was seemed to be draining me of energy.

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I too seemed to be losing control of my normal faculties.

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The best way I can describe it is if I was living a vivid dream and I wanted to wake

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up but I could not.

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Realizing I was under intense psychic attack, I mentally repeated a capitalistic incantation

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which is used to repel potent evil forces.

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And just as suddenly as it had appeared, the figure was no longer there.

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It was after my sighting of the figure that I decided that the reports were indeed true.

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And we decided that is members of the British Psychic and Occult Society decided to launch

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full scale investigation.

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It's a remarkable retelling of his own experience and it's also notable because he shares a

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defense that he deployed when he felt he was under psychic attack.

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Well, if this is true, there is a way to fight back.

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But David Verrant was so shaken up by this experience that he felt compelled to share

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the details of his experience even against the for sure negative attention and stigma

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that might follow him especially back in those days.

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What became known as the Highgate Vampire, David Casilton in an article tells us that

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in February 1970, Verrant wrote a letter to a local newspaper, the Hamstead in Highgate

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Express.

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Also known as the Ham and High, asking if anyone had seen anything similar.

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A number of people responded saying they had glimpsed apparitions in Highgate Cemetery

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and Swain's Lane.

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These phantoms though were of a variety of descriptions including a tall man wearing

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a hat, a ghostly cyclist, a lady dressed in white, a face grimacing through the bars

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of a gate, a person waiting into a pond and a gale-gliding entity.

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There were also reports of the sounds of bells and voices calling.

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There was little coherence in the types of specters people claimed to have seen.

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But another local young man with an interest in the supernatural, Sean Manchester, was

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intrigued by what he read and this is important because it sets forth a whole host of cause

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and effect that converges upon the Highgate Cemetery.

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So Manchester would soon make public his ideas about what he thought that apparition in the

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graveyard might be.

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And thus was born, I think, at that time, the legend of the Highgate Vampire.

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Though Verrant had never claimed the dark figure he'd encountered was a vampire, Sean

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Manchester had little doubt that a genuine Nosferatu was stalking suburban north London.

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Manchester contacted the Hammond High and on 27th February 1970 the newspaper published

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an interview entitled Does a Vampire Walk in Highgate?

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In which Manchester outlined a theory to explain the monster's presence.

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Manchester alleged that a king vampire of the undead was buried in the graveyard.

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This vampire, who in life had been an aristocrat and practitioner of black magic in medieval

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Romania had been transported to England in a coffin by his followers in the early 18th

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century.

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The vampire had been interred on the side that would later become Highgate Cemetery and

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his followers had also purchased a house for him in London's fashionable west end.

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The reason for the Highgate Vampire's reappearance Manchester said was that rituals recently

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carried out by Satanists in the cemetery had reawakened this evil presence.

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Manchester claimed to have spoken to local people who'd experienced vampiric activity.

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A schoolgirl Elizabeth Wadila had seen the vampire when walking down Swain's Lane.

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Wadila began having nightmares in which something evil tried to come into her bedroom.

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Eventually two wounds appear on her neck and she started to display symptoms of anemia.

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Manchester and Elizabeth's boyfriend filled her room with garlic, crucifixes and holy

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water and soon her condition improved.

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Manchester spoke to another young woman called Jacqueline who said she'd woken in the night

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to find something cold clutching her hand.

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The next morning she noticed deep tears in the flesh where she tried to force her hand

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free.

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Jacqueline and her younger brother soon developed a fascination that kept drawing them to the

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more dilapidated western side of Highgate Cemetery where Manchester suspected of an

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00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:26,720
empiric infection had occurred.

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Manchester claimed that after details about the Highgate Vampire became public more people

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contacted him all describing a similar tall dark being with blazing eyes.

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We have to ask could there have been any truth to the claims about occult rituals at Highgate

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Cemetery because that was part of what was going on then.

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00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:57,280
Many things made different phenomena some just people enacted were converging upon this

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00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:03,920
graveyard if you recall even years before this and the cemetery though at one point

446
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:11,800
very well taken care of had become dilapidated, there was graffiti, there were mausoleums

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00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,160
that were disturbed and graveyards that were disturbed.

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00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:21,040
But Manchester, remember Manchester is another young man interestingly enough takes over

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00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:28,400
the original account by Ferrant and he himself sort of propels the story forward.

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In an interview Manchester didn't supply any proof to back up his ideas about the vampire

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00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,320
coming from Eastern Europe.

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00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,480
He would later state this part of the article was a journalistic embellishment but in a

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book he published in 1985 the Highgate Vampire Manchester does mention a foreign nobleman's

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coffin being brought to Highgate.

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00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:58,760
However appears to be more solid evidence concerning the occult ceremonies Manchester

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believed were taking place in the graveyard.

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Ferrant said that in Highgate Cemetery he often found the discarded remains of sagnus

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rituals, stubs of black candles, satanic markings on the floor, tombs.

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In one small chapel like tomb with a marble floor and stained glass windows an inverted

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pentagram had been drawn on the floor.

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Like Manchester Ferrant felt such activities might have walking along dormant presence.

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Ferrant claimed his research showed that though the dark figure had not been glimpsed for

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00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:39,360
many years before the rash of sightings in the 60s and 70s people had seen a similar entity

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in the Victorian epoch.

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According to Manchester the police were well aware of black magic practices going on in

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the cemetery.

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It's worth pointing out that Ferrant himself was a member of a group that used to do rituals

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in the cemetery, though they were believed to be pagan wicka ones rather than anything

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00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,560
satanic.

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Ferrant stated that his group never interfered with graves of bodies but as many of their

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rituals had been conducted outdoors they used a cemetery because it was a secluded open

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space.

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The late 1960s and early 1970s saw a revival of interest in all aspects of mysticism and

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the occult including paganism, eastern mysticism, satanism, witchcraft and the t-

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00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,960
of Alistair Crowley as well as the emergence of a number of less conventional Christian

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00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,960
sects.

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It's clear that an overgrown and secluded place like Highgate Cemetery could offer those

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00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:44,040
engaged in the more outlandish aspects of this resurgence a suitable atmospheric space

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to carry out their ceremonies.

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00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:53,160
But little concerning the Highgate Vampire was likely to stay secluded for long.

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00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:59,200
That is because the Hampstead and Highgate Express continued to follow the vampire story,

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re-interviewing Ferrant and Manchester several times over the next months.

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00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:12,920
In an article published on 6th of March 1970, Ferrant said he'd found dead foxes in the

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cemetery but couldn't work out how they died, though he thought a vampire might have been

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00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,280
responsible.

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So there he's just offering speculation.

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00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,440
This is carrying on months and months.

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00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:29,240
The newspaper is getting a little bit of juice out of this and rightly so, this is like I

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00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:35,920
said a true account and corroborated by a few witnesses and on top of that a very very

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00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,040
rare thing to see.

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00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,320
Not many stories coming forward about urban vampires.

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00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,640
I told you I expected a plethora of accounts and found very few.

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00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,880
This is why we're focusing so much on this Highgate Vampire and later on we'll focus

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on some other lore and some other real accounts or accounts that have a high fidelity to them

495
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:04,080
and that could be coming in a second part to this urban vampires segment or not segment

496
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,960
but follow up or sequel of the series.

497
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:17,000
But back to what was happening at this Highgate Cemetery, Manchester had claimed he'd also

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seen the foxes and suggested the vampire may have been using them as a food source.

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00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:31,400
So if we have a vampire that's feeding on wildlife, it seems to me that it's a vampire

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00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,160
that's doing its best to avoid hurting people.

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00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,760
And then when he encounters them as he did with Ferrant, which obviously didn't result

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00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:46,240
in a fatality, nor did it with the other two, the old lady and the accountant or the man

503
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,200
dubbed the accountant.

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00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:53,760
So there's a reason to think or could we ask maybe he's just this vampire, this entity,

505
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,840
if he was even a vampire because he's described as seven foot tall and I've never heard of

506
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,760
a vampire being described as such a gigantic figure.

507
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:10,560
And again, this could be some shape shifting or some mental capacity, some way to make someone

508
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,640
believe that something's so much bigger, much in the way that animals or cats make their

509
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:22,040
bodies big, could an entity like a supernatural vampire at sometimes just as a defense mechanism

510
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,080
just make himself look much bigger.

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00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:29,200
Seven foot tall is gigantic, and it's not easy to hide or hide in plain sight, being

512
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,400
seven foot tall doesn't behoove you to do that.

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00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,680
If he really was seven foot tall, maybe that's why he just haunts around cemeteries and hunting

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00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:42,240
wildlife to make it because he can't get close enough to people.

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00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:47,560
Either way, soon it was alleged that the animals had been found drained of blood with their

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throats ripped open.

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So there's something I like sharing with you about the stories in that is that there's

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many signs and you can make up your mind about what could have happened.

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00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,600
And again, keep in mind that these are rare accounts.

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00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,840
Reports of the Highgate Vampire commotion soon reached the national and even international

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media.

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Articles appeared in the national press, television programs were made by both ITV and the BBC

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00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,400
and even the international news agency Reuters featured the case.

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So this is really taking off.

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00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:30,280
The anxiety commensurate to the national attention and now international attention around the

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00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:35,200
Highgate Vampire was part of a growing obsession with such creatures in British society.

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00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:43,240
A number of TV programmers and horror movies had focused on vampires and I meant to say

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programs, sorry I spoke.

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00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,760
One film in particular, the Hammer Horror production taste, The Blood of Dracula, this

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00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:56,240
was in 1970 had actually been shot in Highgate Cemetery just a year before the Highgate

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Vampire incidents began.

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00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:04,080
More chillingly, on the night of Halloween 1968, an act of desecration was discovered

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00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,680
in nearby Tottenham Park Cemetery.

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Flowers had been taken from graves and arranged in circles with arrows pointing to a new grave

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which was uncovered.

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00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:22,800
A stake had been driven through the coffin lid and into the heart of the corpse.

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As interest in the Highgate Vampire mounted, a rivalry grew between David Ferrand and Sean

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00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:34,440
Manchester with each belittling the other skills as an exorcist and each stating that

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he would be the one to expel the specter lurking in Highgate.

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So here we go, we have all the atmosphere, the whole background and even a budding competition

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for paranormal investigators at the time, if you could call them that, they seem to

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00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:59,320
be rather amateur but interested and at the right place at the right time.

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00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:06,920
So all these distinct forces are now converging on Highgate Cemetery and it's significant

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because what comes up next is going to change a lot of the history of this account and it's

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going to be a significant mark in the history of vampire hunting, paranormal investigation

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for many years to come.

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Before we head that way, this is a lot to process so I think we should take a very brief

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pause.

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I want to share with you a little bit about what I've been up to and I've got a very,

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very brief message to share with you, listen to that, take a glass of water and then we'll

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00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:46,840
be right back because what's coming up after the small message, the most promo of my work,

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it's going to be pretty big.

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You're going to want to hear this.

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One man's solitary mission into the mysteries becomes an obsession.

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A new novel by Robert Cavalier puts you in the shoes of Julian Carr, a crime reporter

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turned paranormal investigator who almost loses everything that once mattered to him in his

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search for the truth in what could be his one last case.

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This story is spreading about a vampire, a specter lurking around Highgate Cemetery

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and being shared by common people, rumors starting to spread.

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Plus, we have these two paranormal investigators, quite young at a time, possibly amateurish,

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00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:52,520
vying for control of the story and competing with one another to be the one that would

565
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,240
expel the vampire at Highgate Cemetery.

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00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:04,840
This really started to build and it builds so high that it was actually surprising that

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00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,960
what comes next was not anticipated.

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00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:13,360
But let's listen a little bit more to what David Cassiton describes as the final unleashing

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of the buildup produced this.

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On the evening of Friday the 13th, March 1970, a program aired on ITV featuring Ferrant,

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Manchester and others claiming to have seen supernatural figures around Highgate.

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As Friday the 13th is an ominous day according to British superstition, this date is often

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chosen to broadcast programs dealing with the occult.

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The program even included live outside reporting from Highgate Cemetery.

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Within two hours of the program being shown, hundreds of would-be vampire hunters showed

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00:56:52,720 --> 00:57:02,680
up at Highgate Cemetery, intent on catching the vampire.

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00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,000
They began arriving at Highgate in increasing numbers.

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00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:12,500
They surged over the locked gates and walls of the necropolis despite the efforts of police

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00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:15,600
officers to stop them.

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00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,760
This is how big it gets.

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00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:26,200
We're talking about a modern day pitchfork crowd and you could almost be transported

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00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,680
back to the 13th century or something like this.

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Let's go on.

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00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:38,840
The vampire hunters, many armed with weapons, searched frantically among Victorian tombs.

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00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:44,160
Those interviewed at the scene appeared to genuinely believe in the vampire, saying they

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00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:49,680
were determined to find the monster and put an end to its diabolical actions.

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00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,080
The mob caught no vampires that night.

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00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:57,560
The sum insisted they glimpsed the tall, dark figure.

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00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,680
So more anecdotes that we didn't get to collect.

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00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,600
I don't think they were interviewed.

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00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,520
I will try to see if there's even more to this, individual accounts, people that survived

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00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:16,640
that time, but we still have rumors of rumors and we have the original accounts that cost

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00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:25,280
the anxiety and terror to certainly become very real among this community.

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00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:31,320
Manchester would later say the Highgate vampire furor provoked panic and fear and disbelief

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00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:37,160
on a scale which one might anticipate if an alien had landed from outer space.

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00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:42,720
The collective imagination had no defense against what we unearthed back in the late

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00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,480
60s in Highgate.

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00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:53,120
Forraunt, meanwhile, still unconvinced the spooky presence was a Nosferatu, complained

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that media, hysteria and local superstition had turned the Highgate entity into a vampire.

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00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:06,360
I want to give a little bit of props to Forraunt because remember he never really explicitly

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00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:12,160
claimed even the accounts that he had seen a vampire, not at least at that stage.

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00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:20,160
I think many years later when this has become quite a popular event, he does I think lean

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00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:25,320
into the vampire legend quite a bit more, but at that point at least he has some healthy

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00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,320
skepticism.

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00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:32,520
And I like that because when we investigate anything, we should just take what we see and

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report what we see.

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00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:41,880
Not drawing a conclusion because if you remember I'm adamant about this, a conjecture is based

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00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,840
on a cursory observation followed by a conclusion.

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00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,240
I saw a silhouette, it must be a vampire.

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00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:53,000
That's not the way we want logically to follow through.

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00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,120
So I'll give him props for that.

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00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,280
I like that.

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00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:01,960
But going on, on that Friday the 13th, as the amateur vampire hunter swarmed over the

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01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:07,280
cemetery, Manchester and some companions made their way to the entrance of one particular

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01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,760
catacomb.

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01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:14,480
Manchester had previously been there, or been led there actually by a sleepwalking girl

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01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:20,560
who claimed to have been bothered by the Highgate Vampire and had been exhibiting symptoms

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01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,760
similar to Elizabeth's.

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01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,920
Unable to open the door, the group used a rope to climb down into the catacomb through

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a window.

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They found themselves in a vault with several coffins, one of which a sinister looking casket

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01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:40,880
made of nearly black wood didn't seem to fit.

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01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,760
Manchester and his companions performed an exorcism with holy water and garlic and sprinkled

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01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,200
salt around.

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01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:55,280
A few months later, on August 1st, the charred, decapitated remains of a woman were found

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01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,800
near the catacomb.

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01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:04,080
The police suspected this mutilated corpse had been used in a black magic ritual.

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01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:09,160
After this, both Ferrand and Manchester seemed to become more active.

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Ferrand was apprehended by the police in the churchyard next to the cemetery one night,

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clutching crucifix and wooden stake.

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Ferrand was arrested, but the case against him collapsed when it came to court.

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01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,840
Manchester and his followers, meanwhile, were led to a different family vault by a

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01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,800
female psychic helper.

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01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,880
After forcing open the doors, they found a black coffin similar to the one they'd seen

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01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,480
in the catacombs.

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:42,840
Manchester, suspecting it had been moved by black magic devotees, levered open the lid.

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It was only when we discovered in the putrid chamber of that tomb in August 1970 what we

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01:01:52,360 --> 01:02:00,240
did and looked upon the horrific honours of what was inside, Manchester said, that we

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01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:08,080
had absolute confirmation of what we were dealing with.

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Manchester wanted to drive a stake through the body, but a member of his entourage persuaded

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01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,560
him not to, as interfering with remains was a crime in England.

642
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:22,160
Instead, the group performed a ritual that used seven crucifixes, four white candles,

643
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:28,360
and seven cups of holy water in a ceremony carried out by four men and a woman, to banish

644
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:33,560
the spirit of evil or evil presence using the Latin formula.

645
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:39,800
News of the spoken exorcism did indeed bring a sigh of relief to many living in the area.

646
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:46,120
I'd like to note this bit about the Latin formula, and you hear this a lot in movies

647
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,120
and fiction.

648
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:56,040
There's always got to be some Latin-speaking spirit or demon or the exorcism itself, or

649
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,480
the exorcist, him or herself, use Latin words.

650
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:07,520
That's because not because Latin inherently is some kind of a warding off of evil spirits

651
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:13,320
type of language, but because many rituals that date back to the Roman Catholic Church's

652
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:21,360
origins did have, I wouldn't want to call them incantations, but the effect is similar.

653
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:26,920
There are phrases that have been in the Roman Catholic Church for this particular ritual,

654
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:33,640
for this particular right, really, holy right, for over a thousand years.

655
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,240
So that's why this pops up.

656
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,560
It could really be any language.

657
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,080
It could be contemporary language.

658
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:43,880
As long as there is conviction in the delivery and the deliverer is a person that is whole

659
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:52,360
in some sense and genuine, it seems to be what has impact on some supernatural event,

660
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,520
dissipating, vanishing.

661
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,640
And there's many things that we can speculate about that.

662
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:04,400
Is it, was there really anything there, or is just the act of that ceremony, of communion

663
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,120
with one another, a community coming together, a group of people with convictions saying,

664
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,040
no, go away, whatever you are.

665
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:19,560
Even if that is just in our minds, it's a powerful ceremony, a powerful effect, I think.

666
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:25,800
But going back to what was going on at Highgate Cemetery, Manchester says the cemetery officials

667
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:31,360
then bricked up the vault with the crucifix and holy water left inside.

668
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:37,520
When Manchester reflected, the vault didn't remain bricked up for long.

669
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,960
Ferrand and his group were also making efforts to deal with the strange presence.

670
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:48,080
Meanwhile, they decided to try to communicate it with the entity and discover its purpose.

671
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:54,840
In Highgate Cemetery, they conducted rituals using two circles, incense, candles, and a

672
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:55,840
medium.

673
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,880
The first time they tried this, the press interrupted them.

674
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:05,080
A year later, a whole year later, according to Ferrand, another attempt saw the entity

675
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,040
clasping the medium by the throat.

676
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,960
We had to break the circle.

677
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,600
The area turned cold.

678
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,920
She felt she was being enveloped by blackness.

679
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,360
She felt something was trying to strangle her.

680
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,880
That's Ferrand's quote.

681
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:26,080
Ferrand was now convinced the entity was malignant.

682
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:31,120
After hearing of incidents in which a sinister force had pushed people over in Swain's

683
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,920
Lane, he did more research.

684
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:39,560
Ferrand came up with a theory that the being wasn't a vampire at all, but an evil presence

685
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,080
that traveled along a ley line.

686
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:47,680
For those of you that don't know what a ley line is, and in fact, myself, this is rather

687
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:53,160
new information, maybe a couple of years old or a few years old when I discovered this

688
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,720
phenomena of the ley lines.

689
01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:03,480
These are supposed to be natural lines on the earth that are set to be channels whereby

690
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:09,280
spiritual presences communicate more easily.

691
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,440
That's at least the lore.

692
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:17,600
Back in the day, and I'm talking back in the ancient days, many structures like the Stone

693
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:28,840
Henge and other structures that have very big religious or spiritual impact and influence

694
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:33,720
are set to be constructed along these ley lines.

695
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,840
That's what that is.

696
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,200
You can find out a little bit more, and I recommend it because that's a whole subject

697
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,600
in and of itself that I'd like to cover down the road.

698
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:50,360
Anyway, this ley line began at the Calambrium, a part of the cemetery where urns are kept

699
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:54,920
and ran across Highgate through two old public houses.

700
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:59,880
Highgate Wood and a block of flats built over a nunnery.

701
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:05,320
Ferrand claimed he found evidence of disturbing supernatural activity in all these places.

702
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:10,760
Some people he spoke to said they'd glimpsed a tall, dark figure, and a manager in one

703
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:15,840
of the pubs apparently, saw sight so horrific it turned his hair white, and one of the flats

704
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:20,480
built over the nunnery had to be exercised.

705
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:25,160
Despite the ceremony that Manchester and his colleagues conducted in the tomb, any relief

706
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,080
was short-lived.

707
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:33,800
Manchester said, strange occurrences failed to seize, and more horrifying incidents ended

708
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:41,480
up any hope that we'd quieted the disturbance with a mere, spoken exorcism rite.

709
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:46,120
Further vampiric outrages were to follow.

710
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,000
Further vampiric outrages.

711
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:55,560
And I like that phrase because it has sort of a dual sense, you know, it is the outrage

712
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:02,400
because the community is becoming hysterical, or is it because it correlates with further

713
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,520
incidents that are supernatural and related to this apparition which is thought to be

714
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,160
a vampire.

715
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:15,040
Three years pass, and then Manchester claims that he and his associates discovered the

716
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:20,640
same ominous black casket in the cellars of an abandoned and suitably gothic mansion

717
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,720
on the borders of Highgate and Crouch End.

718
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,720
Manchester suspected the coffin had been moved there to avoid all the attention the media

719
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:34,680
and enthusiastic vampire hunters had focused on Highgate Cemetery.

720
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:41,080
Manchester group dragged the coffin out of the basement up the stairs and into the grounds

721
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,080
of the mansion.

722
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,680
So this was Manchester's group.

723
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:45,680
And they did all of that.

724
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:50,480
They'd taken this coffin out of the basement, and I don't know about the legality of all

725
01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:51,480
of this.

726
01:08:51,480 --> 01:08:55,120
Again, disturbing, sacred things.

727
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,440
People that have been buried in the ground.

728
01:08:57,440 --> 01:09:01,400
That's a very, very, I wouldn't even say unethical.

729
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:05,720
It's patently criminal and don't do it.

730
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,520
But they had a belief in all and what they were doing.

731
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,480
And remember the context of this.

732
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:13,440
This is something that kept people up at night.

733
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:20,440
Remember that bit about that girl who felt that she had traces of a vampire's, I guess,

734
01:09:20,440 --> 01:09:23,560
injury of where she had fed on her.

735
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,360
So these things are starting to manifest.

736
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,640
People are worried, and these kind of things tend to relieve that worry.

737
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,140
Or do they?

738
01:09:31,140 --> 01:09:33,880
Do they just pour fuel into the flames?

739
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,040
You decide.

740
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:40,840
Manchester goes on to say, Don was about to break, starting to send spears of bright

741
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:46,360
illumination onto the macabre spectacle below.

742
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:51,840
When the lid was removed, we beheld the same thing we'd seen in August 1970.

743
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,200
This was now the early part of 1974.

744
01:09:55,200 --> 01:10:00,360
Our quarry this time looked even more exaggerated, even more distorted than ever remembered.

745
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,440
Far worse than even that time in the Highgate vault.

746
01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:08,680
It's burning fierce eyes under the many furrowed brow.

747
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,240
We're staring yellow at the edges with blood red centers.

748
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:19,760
Unlike anything imaginable, the mouth was said in a cruel expression, the lips drawn

749
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,000
back.

750
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,000
This is a lot to process.

751
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:30,880
This is a very precise description of this apparition, believed to be a vampire.

752
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:40,920
And as I keep saying, I found it very hard to find modern day descriptions of vampires,

753
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,800
of sightings of vampires.

754
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,920
There's plenty of other sightings, witches, even werewolves, and all kinds of things,

755
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,280
but vampires are a rare breed, apparently.

756
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,320
What does Manchester do next?

757
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,400
Manchester drove a stake into the Highgate Vampire.

758
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,560
With a mighty blow, a sharpened shaft of wood impaled the creature's heart.

759
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,680
We witnessed the body's shell cave in and quickly turned filthy brown, and that itself

760
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:13,040
soon became a sluggish flow of inhuman slime and viscera in the bottom of the cask.

761
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:19,960
As Manchester believed that cremation is recommended as the ultimate deterrent and preventative

762
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:26,000
to the vampire's nightly wanderings, he and his followers then burned the coffin in what

763
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,200
was left of the body.

764
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:33,640
This took several hours, after which all that remained was a great scorch mark and some

765
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:41,400
bones that needed to be ground down and cast to the four corners, or four winds of the

766
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:42,800
earth.

767
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:48,840
That last part is Manchester's quotes, his words.

768
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:55,280
And we notice, and I want to point out really the different methods that these vampire hunters,

769
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:04,200
these makeshift vampire hunters, drawn either from lore or from some other source, are using

770
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,720
to try to get rid of this vampire.

771
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,680
It's a ledged vampire.

772
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,080
And they included what?

773
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:15,680
The incantations, the ceremonies, the rituals, the incense, the medium, in Foran's case I

774
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:24,960
believe, and it escalates to this stake being drawn into the coffin as the other paranormal

775
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,840
or vampire hunter claims.

776
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:32,560
He drove a stake right through the coffin and then the coffin changed.

777
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,960
But that seemed to be good enough.

778
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:39,760
I don't think the only thing that was not done was the decapitation, although that is

779
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:45,560
a set to be, at least in the lore it's set to be effective against vampires.

780
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:54,160
And finally cremation is what Manchester surmised is the ultimate kill all.

781
01:12:54,160 --> 01:13:00,520
There's a lot to that and there's methodology that's attached to any kind of cryptid or

782
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,600
supernatural being, different ways to fight back.

783
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:08,640
To me that's very interesting, very attractive because something can be very powerful, very,

784
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:15,600
very powerful, very scary and pretty much outrun us and outthink us in every which way.

785
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:20,680
But I like the idea that there's a way to combat, to fight back any kind of supernatural

786
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:21,680
attack.

787
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,720
Whether there's truth in it or not, I like this idea.

788
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:31,920
I like being able to find some kind of recourse, whether that is ceremony or faith or coming

789
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:36,240
together as a community, which is probably the most recommended thing and presented

790
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:45,120
in a unified front or whether it is this more esoteric and escalated behaviour that you

791
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:51,240
would call violent but then the person is already dead so it's just a disturbing of

792
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:56,640
remains which is really difficult to process.

793
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,720
But those are things that I think I would like to highlight.

794
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:04,400
I don't like it when if you watch a scary movie or hear a scary tale when it's just

795
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:10,400
always the person running away and having no idea, always just no chance to fight back.

796
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,600
But when you stop and you fight back or you find a way to control your emotions, to do

797
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,240
something, to make a stand, whatever it is, it gives it pause.

798
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,600
And this is true in the natural world too.

799
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:28,800
Most predators, this is consistent with that, most predators and by that I mean actual animals

800
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:34,360
that prey on things that are not diabolical and I hate things that paint them in that

801
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,240
picture, they are just following their instinct.

802
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,920
We are predators too and we eat meat, a lot of us.

803
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:44,560
But a lot of predators are always looking out to protect themselves.

804
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:49,920
They have precious things called teeth and paws that don't get to regenerate.

805
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,840
If they lose them, that's it.

806
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,240
So they are very careful about their attacks.

807
01:14:54,240 --> 01:15:00,440
When they attack, first they stalk and then they find an opening, an opportunity to surprise

808
01:15:00,440 --> 01:15:05,880
the prey and run them down and kill them as quickly as possible.

809
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:12,560
Depending on the animal, for instance a lion would be much more a fast killer or a tiger

810
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:17,320
with just snapping the prey's neck or something like that.

811
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:23,560
A quick way to go, it decreases the chances that as that animal is attacking its prey

812
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,720
that it will in turn get hurt.

813
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,000
And like I said, there is just no doctors for them.

814
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,800
You just, that's it.

815
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:36,160
You get wounded and you possibly could die as well in the act of trying to survive.

816
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:41,080
So very interesting things here.

817
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:47,120
There is a bit more to this story because it has repercussions on how we think about

818
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:52,640
fighting back or is this a response to hysteria.

819
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,440
I think there is a little bit of both here.

820
01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:58,520
There is just a lot going on that I would make up my mind one way or another.

821
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:59,920
I am just saying.

822
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:05,560
I think there is enough going on here that points to something very strange happening

823
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:10,160
at this Highgate Cemetery in England.

824
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:17,640
It results years later in how we look at defenses, how we look at even investigations, how should

825
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:21,760
they be carried out.

826
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:28,240
This incident as you already followed, it spawned a few that lasted a long, long time

827
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,120
between these two, Manchester and Ferrant.

828
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:36,720
Ferrant coming first, Manchester coming later, both claiming they could deal with a vampire.

829
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,440
And then, don't forget the crowds.

830
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:46,120
There is even a picture that I found online in some newspaper picture of these youths,

831
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:51,560
these young people, mostly men, just climbing over a fence.

832
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,640
Just in that act of we are going to overrun this cemetery.

833
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,600
We are going to catch this thing.

834
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,760
It's like hound dogs after a fox.

835
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:09,920
But anyway, so years later, after all of this has happened, Manchester claimed to have destroyed

836
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,800
the Highgate Vampire.

837
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,440
And his claims did little to end though, the feud between him and Ferrant.

838
01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:16,440
So it didn't end with that.

839
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:19,320
It didn't put a punctuation point on that.

840
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:25,200
There had been rumors that the two would meet in a magician's duel on Parliament Hill

841
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,720
on Friday the 13th on April 1973.

842
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:33,640
Can you imagine that a duel, an actual modern day duel over this?

843
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:41,040
I mean, it seems to be more about ego at this point and appropriating the story, the legend,

844
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:45,560
what is happening here than it does to try to help the community.

845
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,680
And that is my editorial opinion on it, but it just seems to be it.

846
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,280
I wonder what you're thinking.

847
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,040
Let me know.

848
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,560
But fortunately, this duel never happened.

849
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:02,960
Instead in 1974, Ferrant was jailed after being convicted of interfering with remains

850
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:08,120
and vanishing, vandalizing memorials in Highgate Cemetery.

851
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:14,480
There's a price to pay for all of this investigation and all this kinds of really high jinks.

852
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:16,640
And we're learning something here.

853
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:22,320
If you're interested in learning about things like this and interested in pursuing a mystery,

854
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:28,520
you also have to remember that there are boundaries and there is proprietary and there is a sense

855
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,240
of dignity that you have to give to all of these things that you're doing.

856
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,240
Later on, I want to think about it.

857
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:34,240
What is it?

858
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,720
Is it even ethical to be pursuing a vampire with the intent to kill?

859
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,000
After all, there were rumors that the vampire wasn't even feeding on people.

860
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,600
It wasn't even killing anybody, except for that one girl that claims to have lost sleep

861
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,760
and then they did a ritual on her.

862
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:54,840
And besides that, it seemed like there were rumors about animals being fed upon and all

863
01:18:54,840 --> 01:19:02,160
that, which seems to me kind of benevolent when you compare it to actual people as prey.

864
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:08,240
So Ferrant asserted that the damage had been caused because he was in trouble with the

865
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,080
law and he pointed the finger at Satanist.

866
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,760
He said, Satanist caused it rather than him.

867
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:19,160
But both Ferrant's imprisonment and the rumored duel served to keep the Highgate Vampire in

868
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,960
the public mind for several years.

869
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:26,880
Not only several years, now it's been like, it's got to be 49, 50 something, 53 years

870
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,760
or something like that, half a century.

871
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,880
And I think this legend will live on.

872
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,200
It's not a legend really because it did really happen.

873
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:41,360
So the quarrel between Ferrant and Manchester dragged on for decades, with each claiming

874
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,640
to be an expert exorcist while dismissing the other's abilities.

875
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:50,600
Both spent many years investigating paranormal phenomena and both produced books, articles

876
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,040
and websites and gave many interviews.

877
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:58,080
One of those I shared with you, that terrible footage, sorry about that, but that's the

878
01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,080
best we could do.

879
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,080
It's really old.

880
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,800
But that was one of them.

881
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,440
And we're all about the Highgate Vampire.

882
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:06,520
It's becoming a bit of a franchise, this Highgate Vampire.

883
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:11,880
Each one of these two wants to really own it, own the story.

884
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,560
The two men and their followers, because now there's two groups that are adamant that

885
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:20,240
one has the right way and the other one doesn't, it's almost like two sects, you know, like

886
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,880
heretics, frequently sparred on social media.

887
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:28,880
David Ferrant died aged 73 in April 2019.

888
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:35,280
But Manchester still works as of the writing of this and the research of this podcast as

889
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:41,640
an exorcist and bishop in the British Old Catholic Church.

890
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,360
A conservative sect that broke away from Roman Catholicism.

891
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:51,560
Another interesting thing, because remember the rites are very Roman that I mentioned,

892
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:58,960
and there are not just one Roman Catholic church, which is what we most of us know.

893
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,120
There are also an American Catholic Church.

894
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:08,160
These are not cultic religions, they just separated from the Roman Catholic Church while

895
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:12,120
preserving many of the rites and traditions.

896
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,480
They just don't agree with certain things.

897
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:22,080
It could be merit, like the celibate, the celibacy of priests, or it could be something

898
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:26,280
to do with the Pope, most likely.

899
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,520
But they are carrying on the tradition having separated.

900
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:35,040
They're not very big, but they're here in the US and apparently also in England, because

901
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:39,320
it's the first time I've ever heard of the British Old Catholic Church.

902
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:47,520
After slaying the Highgate Vampire, Manchester maintains he has destroyed dozens of bloodsuckers.

903
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,800
I should say that again.

904
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:56,720
Not only did he claim Manchester to have dealt with the Highgate Vampire, but after that

905
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,400
he goes on for a long time.

906
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:03,840
So I'm going to focus on that on the second part of this podcast, because we go quite

907
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:08,040
a bit at length with this one and it needs to be that way because there's just so much

908
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,320
and it's a precious gem of an account.

909
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:17,600
But I want to go into the methodology, the origin, the impetus of what could be considered

910
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:22,680
modern day vampire hunters in part two.

911
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:28,480
I want to talk about one of those incidents apparently involved in a secondary contagion

912
01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:35,120
from the Highgate Vampire in Finchley's Great Northern London Cemetery in 1982.

913
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:42,520
A bite from that infamous Nosferatu had corrupted the body of a woman called Lucia.

914
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:48,680
Arriving at the cemetery, Manchester saw a spider-like creature about the size of a

915
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:49,680
cat.

916
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:54,400
He stalked it and felt sure he'd put an end to the pollution of the Highgate Vampire

917
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,920
for good.

918
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:03,680
But has the Highgate Vampire or whatever it is really been laid to rest?

919
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:09,440
For on thought not, and ominously a number of sightings of tall dark figures with burning

920
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:16,120
eyes have occurred from the 1990s until the present day.

921
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:21,800
One witness who claimed to have glimpsed the spook in 1991 said he was very tall, well

922
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,720
over six feet in height and very thin.

923
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:34,360
I like this account because a seven foot tall vampire just seems quite a stretch but it

924
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:40,040
could be like I said or like I speculated if it's something that's an apparition it's

925
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:44,880
trying to ward off something maybe it's making itself look bigger just like a cat does.

926
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:52,280
But the description goes on, he says it wore a long black cape, light cloak and a top hat.

927
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:57,040
His dress looked Victorian in style and he appeared all in black.

928
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,280
He also appeared to glide and there was no sound.

929
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:05,600
The ground was littered with leaves, he had heard no sound from him.

930
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:12,800
It's amazing, so another account of the vampire or of a vampire-like figure and the way his

931
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,000
dress seems to fit.

932
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:19,840
Imagine if you're a vampire and you live a long time, how many of us are still stuck

933
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:25,080
wearing whatever it is the fashion that we liked at some point and it just haven't realized

934
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:31,960
that things have changed and people don't wear bell bottoms or people don't wear dye

935
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,200
jeans or whatever it is that the fashion was.

936
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,000
So they seem to stay stuck.

937
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,480
I like that detail, it's interesting.

938
01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:49,720
I want to point us to whether there's any rational explanation of this Highgate vampire

939
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:54,600
because as colorful and dramatic as the accounts of Ferrant are and especially Manchester's

940
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:59,120
accounts, his vampire fighting, it's much more vivid.

941
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,920
You gotta remember Ferrant doesn't really go to all these lengths that Manchester does

942
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,520
and he's really outdoing him in the fighting of it all, the fighting of the vampire that

943
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,520
is.

944
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,400
There's quite a few of those even at that time that we're going to have a skeptical

945
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:17,160
mind and who would feel tempted to question the Highgate vampire narrative.

946
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:21,280
Are there any explanations, social, cultural or psychological that would account for the

947
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:26,600
hysteria and bizarre events of flicking north London in 1960s and 1970s?

948
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:34,120
The Highgate vampire was a strange case but below I want to go on or some attempts to

949
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:38,080
rationally understand the phenomenon.

950
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:42,560
One of them has to do with a phenomenon called legend tripping and by phenomenon I mean more

951
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:47,760
of a fad, more of a youth driven, dare type of thing.

952
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:53,880
Legend tripping is a term used by folklorists and anthropologists to describe a common pattern

953
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:59,480
of behavior in which groups of young people make expeditions to sites associated with horrific,

954
01:25:59,480 --> 01:26:05,160
tragic and supernatural events, pretty much the premise of a lot of horror movies with

955
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:10,240
teenagers daring to go to the haunted house and break some windows and then start the

956
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:11,840
whole thing.

957
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:16,360
These visits which normally take place at night can be seen as rites of passage which

958
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:20,720
enable the youngsters to demonstrate their courage and daring.

959
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:25,840
In a modern world where we don't have a rite of passage from youth to adulthood, adulthood

960
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:29,800
that makes sense, especially for males.

961
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:35,360
The sites of such legend trips can include caves, tunnels, abandoned buildings and especially

962
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:36,360
cemeteries.

963
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:41,000
While most examples of legend tripping are relatively harmless, some expeditions may

964
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:45,840
involve trespassing, vandalism and even occult rituals.

965
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:50,640
Both forans and Manchester's entirages were groups of young people led by charismatic

966
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:56,120
young men and their escapades did definitely tend towards the ritualistic, and these two

967
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,960
groups were not the only ones engaged in legend tripping.

968
01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:06,280
There were also the hundreds of other vampire hunters and those practicing the black arts.

969
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:10,600
Might one bug a bunch of legend trippers have been in competition with Manchester's

970
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:16,600
groups, hiding the vampiric corpse and doing their best to thwart Manchester's attempts

971
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,600
to track it down.

972
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,800
We have to speculate about all kinds of competitions.

973
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:28,040
We just highlighted two main opposing branches or factions of vampire hunters and by and

974
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,040
by Ferrand, David Ferrand.

975
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:42,680
To me he seems a little bit more honest, but at least a little bit more circumvent or less

976
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:49,920
in your face about his methods of approaching this vampire at a high gate cemetery than

977
01:27:49,920 --> 01:28:00,560
Manchester does with his almost Hollywood-like gung-ho methods, which I think are just fascinating.

978
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:07,080
A related phenomenon to legend tripping is called ostentation, which refers to the literal

979
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,480
acting out of well-known legends and lore.

980
01:28:10,480 --> 01:28:14,520
Such acting out can become a kind of game in which the borders of fantasy and reality

981
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:15,520
get blurred.

982
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:24,640
Do you remember I talked a little bit about that role-playing game based on the original

983
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,880
TV series, actually not based on the TV series, but based on this role-playing game that

984
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:39,600
also spawned the kindred, the embraced, failed, or cancelled show of the late 90s?

985
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:46,160
So there is a bit of that role-playing, at least that dimension of course the forum and

986
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:50,360
the method is so much more different with entertainment and communion and sharing and

987
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,160
living this sort of dark fantasy.

988
01:28:53,160 --> 01:29:01,160
But here it could also be caused for a much more overt way of acting all this stuff out.

989
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:08,480
We humans, it's my opinion I guess, that when we encounter something truly scary we do tend

990
01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:14,920
to appropriate some of it, act it out, absorb it, consume it, try to understand it that way,

991
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,800
bite into it, and see what it does.

992
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,760
I mean that's what Halloween is all about, isn't it?

993
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,960
We dress up for one night and act crazy.

994
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:27,840
But it's been noted by many that Highgate Vampire Saga bears strong resemblances to

995
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:33,320
Brown Stoker's 1897 novel Dracula.

996
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:38,840
And Dracula, as many of us know, accounts mostly attacks young women and likewise young

997
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,560
men.

998
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:49,600
But Manchester Queen were those the Highgate Vampire chiefly pestered were women.

999
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:55,760
Brown Stoker's novel also includes sleepwalking victims, coffined vampires being discovered

1000
01:29:55,760 --> 01:30:01,480
in Putrid Falls, and the use of crucifixes, garlic, and holy water to repel such monsters.

1001
01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:06,240
Their similarities are the vampire's Eastern European origins, his purchase of a fashionable

1002
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,640
house in the West End, and his red burning eyes.

1003
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:16,000
The Highgate area itself features in Dracula, as it's where the aristocrat-made vampire

1004
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,960
Lucy Wisterna is entombed.

1005
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:24,200
The neo-Gothic mansion is a reasonable stand-in for Dracula's spooky castle and account,

1006
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:30,320
like the Highgate Vampire is finally dispatched by a stake through the heart.

1007
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:37,760
I want to pause and reorient us about this part that I just shared.

1008
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:42,480
And while there are a lot of parallels, at least cursory parallels, it also does make

1009
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:46,720
sense because Dracula itself was not just drawn up out of nowhere.

1010
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:51,760
It comes from lore, comes from the old Eastern European lore, and much of the vampire lore

1011
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:59,280
is centered in Eastern Europe, the word Dracula itself, I'm sorry the word vampire itself,

1012
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:03,000
is said or believed to be of Slavic origin.

1013
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:08,160
There's also some Greek possibilities there, North, Northern Greece, all of that is not

1014
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,040
even that far from Eastern Europe.

1015
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:15,400
And of course we talked about even more ancient beginnings.

1016
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:22,200
The fact that those things match doesn't mean that what was going on there is suspiciously

1017
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:27,320
like an acting out of the novel, and the tropes in the novel, and so on.

1018
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:32,160
It could very well be that that's what a modern sighting looks like, that it even, I would

1019
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:38,560
say, corroborates some of this lore, if you believe that this account is true.

1020
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:43,800
We can also make a little bit of a parallel that the name Lucy, and Lucia, which came

1021
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:50,080
in one of the accounts in the secondary infestation of the great Northern London cemetery, is

1022
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,760
connected to this story.

1023
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:58,560
We can go on with this in trying to pick similarities between the book and what happened at Highgate,

1024
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,680
but Highgate was a real event.

1025
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:08,600
These things manifested, whether they were caused by the forces of some apparition, a

1026
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:13,560
real vampire, people imagining things, people out of fear and panic, starting to build these

1027
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:20,880
two other vampire hunters, Manchester and Ferrant, fending the flames, it did still

1028
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:21,880
happen.

1029
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,880
It was an event, it's a historical fact.

1030
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:29,920
So whatever happened, and if it happens to fit with the lore, I think that we can't

1031
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:30,920
discount it.

1032
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,400
We might even look more deeply into this.

1033
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:39,000
One question though, Manchester did downplay the similarities of his vampire hunting to

1034
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:43,040
works of literature stating that, I certainly haven't encountered anything that can be

1035
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:47,220
described as a bironic figure from a Gothic romance.

1036
01:32:47,220 --> 01:32:53,120
That tradition in fiction has a lot of bironic input largely due to John William Poitard's

1037
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:54,400
novel The Vampire.

1038
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:58,760
But no, the eyeless sockets of impenetrable darkness I've encountered bear no relation

1039
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:00,160
to the glamourized image.

1040
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:05,520
A little bit of separation is just standing in his ground, and I think that I can respect

1041
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:11,600
that, just because it's a novel doesn't mean that it wasn't also part of the sighting.

1042
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:16,600
Still it would seem that much of the Highgate vampire mythos may well have been molded by

1043
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:21,200
the propensities of local youngsters for legend tripping and ostentation.

1044
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,680
That's not my opinion, I'm sharing the opinion of some of the people that looked into it.

1045
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,680
I don't think that that is the origin.

1046
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:28,680
I really don't.

1047
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,320
I just looked into so many different angles.

1048
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:35,400
You could say that life imitates art, and then art imitates life again.

1049
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,800
But it's worth pointing out that the popular culture at the time was awash with vampire

1050
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:50,000
images, and we have scores of 1970s movies and lore and studios were creating lots of

1051
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,000
things.

1052
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:56,320
But I don't know about the 1970s, but it was between, I guess between 1950 and 1970 there

1053
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,720
were a lot of movies.

1054
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:03,160
The one that comes to mind about the Nosferatu was the first silent movie made about that,

1055
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,000
which I think is just a masterpiece.

1056
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,360
You gotta watch that.

1057
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:14,320
In the aftermath of all of this Highgate drama, numerous TV programs and comics also featured

1058
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:23,160
vampires before and after, and it just becomes part of the collective consciousness.

1059
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,440
And there's something to that too.

1060
01:34:25,440 --> 01:34:30,520
I want to think about a little bit about that angle, whether a collective consciousness

1061
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,160
is there anything to it?

1062
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,480
Can it make something rise out of nothing?

1063
01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:39,280
And we see things that we wouldn't have seen because we are culturally bound to.

1064
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,080
But again, I am hesitant to take that direction.

1065
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:48,880
I want to share that angle, but I don't think that someone who may be aware of vampires,

1066
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,000
all of a sudden it's just going to say, I saw a vampire, it's in Highgate symmetry,

1067
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:53,000
it looks like this.

1068
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:58,680
I just don't see that most people are going to be jumping from one thing that may be in

1069
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:03,720
the back of their mind because they were exposed to the lore of vampires, and all of a sudden

1070
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:04,960
there's a claim to see them.

1071
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:09,520
If that were true, then I should have found a lot more accounts than I did in my research.

1072
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:10,520
And you can try that too.

1073
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:11,840
If you find something, let me know.

1074
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,000
But I did not find a lot that was credible.

1075
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:18,080
I was even hoping to find things that were just way out there because there are people

1076
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:24,240
that will say whatever, and to try to dismantle what new or modern accounts were, but there

1077
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:28,480
weren't any, hardly any really.

1078
01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:32,560
You could say that people who have some mental disease might think that they're a vampire,

1079
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:37,640
like to see real proof of it, kind of like in Anne Rice's interview with a vampire where

1080
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,640
somebody's interviewing a vampire and then, boom, you really know that they really are

1081
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:41,640
one.

1082
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:47,560
We don't see that coming through that much.

1083
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:52,240
You could say also that there's a kind of shared social anxiety.

1084
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:57,720
We live in an age, and when have we not lived in an age of social anxiety, I want to know.

1085
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:02,440
But we can say that we live in an age of social anxiety in vampire legends, and they seem to

1086
01:36:02,440 --> 01:36:07,320
be associated with times of social beheaval and change.

1087
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:11,760
Published in the dying years of the Victorian era, Bram Stoker's novel has ancient folklore

1088
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:16,160
running up against innovations like railways, telegrams, phonographs.

1089
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:22,400
The exotic immigrant figure of the count embodies fears linked to colonialism, immigration,

1090
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:29,800
globalization, with frequent references to new women, revealing anxieties about the emerging

1091
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,800
feminist movement, and changing gender roles.

1092
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:37,120
The eroticism of the vampire could be connected to the fact that Victorian sexual mourners

1093
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,240
were just starting to loosen.

1094
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:43,000
This is interesting from the fictional aspect side of all of it.

1095
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:48,040
Could this have seeped into the story of the vampire?

1096
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,720
Definitely, I think.

1097
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:54,800
Fictionalizations are going to absorb that writers are not immune to writers, and I'm

1098
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:59,800
one of them, absorb things in many different ways, experience things in many different

1099
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:06,560
ways, and yet I still don't think that just because we are exposed to stories all of a

1100
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:12,440
sudden we're spotting a chubby guy down the street wearing red and calling him Santa Claus.

1101
01:37:12,440 --> 01:37:16,240
There's a big leap from one to the other.

1102
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,800
You could look at the background of the 1970s.

1103
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,560
It was still the Cold War.

1104
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:27,320
It was writing the, well, they wouldn't know, but it was going to last up until 1986 or

1105
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:28,800
something like that.

1106
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:34,360
Oh, 1989, pardon me, something like that, when the communism fell down, but we're still

1107
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:41,480
under the threat of, if any of you were children or grew up in that age, you know what it felt

1108
01:37:41,480 --> 01:37:44,400
like to be under the gun, under the nuclear gun.

1109
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:52,480
But all of that has spawned some anxiety, some deep-seated anxiety about death and sort of

1110
01:37:52,480 --> 01:37:55,880
channeled it into visions of the vampire.

1111
01:37:55,880 --> 01:38:03,840
I think some might say that that's a stretch, but it's death, carnage, murder, ugly images

1112
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,480
of dead bodies.

1113
01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:10,120
All of this stuff is happening in the backdrop of wars that were happening at the time.

1114
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:17,880
Humans can be far more horrific than one tiny little aberration in one cemetery.

1115
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:23,640
Think about the scale of what we can do compared to what we say exists out there.

1116
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:28,760
And if they do exist, and this is something that will elaborate more in part two, what

1117
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:38,640
is it that drives our fear to go to these extents, to go to a mob mentality?

1118
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:40,160
Why can't we try to understand the vampire?

1119
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:41,320
Is there something to that?

1120
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:46,840
And I'm going to introduce you to some accounts of vampire hunters, modern-day vampire hunters,

1121
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:53,120
which I'm very interested in, and also some of these real vampire, when I say real, quote-unquote

1122
01:38:53,120 --> 01:39:00,480
real, they're not the real supernatural beings nor claiming to be, but they're subculture

1123
01:39:00,480 --> 01:39:06,600
societies that have formed in places like New York, Chicago, and New Orleans, not surprisingly,

1124
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:15,400
who make a part of their lives, this vampiric sort of lifestyle, farther than the quote-unquote

1125
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:23,520
ostentation or the playing acting or the role-playing games or any of that, these people really do

1126
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:24,960
engage in that lifestyle.

1127
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,960
And they do it in a way that's very ritualized and very secret and very discreet, and I want

1128
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:34,080
to be tasteful about how I cover them because I don't want to point a finger and laugh.

1129
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,760
That's not what this is about or point a finger and say how weird.

1130
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,120
I want to be respectful of their point of view.

1131
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:44,360
I don't want to cover this in part one because part two is going to look into more of this

1132
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:51,800
research about the vampiric societies and subcultures, and yet that's still not something

1133
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,760
I'm going to go as deep as you might think because my angle is going to be if you're

1134
01:39:55,760 --> 01:40:01,400
a vampire and you know what humanity is like, you've lived even a hundred years, but say

1135
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:07,760
you've lived hundreds of years, what methods would you deploy to survive?

1136
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,840
What techniques would you draw on?

1137
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:12,560
What insight do you have into humanity?

1138
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:20,360
I would love to interview a vampire, not for just the questions about well where do you

1139
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:24,240
sleep, sleep in a coffin, what kind of clothes do you wear, do you have big red eyes, all

1140
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:32,440
of that, but also to gain the insight of a true alien, an entity that would see us in

1141
01:40:32,440 --> 01:40:37,400
a very different light or in a very different type of shadow light.

1142
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,960
Who's afraid of whom in that scenario?

1143
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:45,200
It seems that vampires are more afraid of humanity as many predators are in the animal

1144
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,680
world than we are of them.

1145
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,520
So I leave you with that thought in a little bit more.

1146
01:40:51,520 --> 01:41:00,160
I'm going to share a couple of more legends at the start of part two, but I want you to

1147
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:08,160
think about the role of humanity in relation to the vampire, where we can speculate about

1148
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:09,600
vampirism.

1149
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:14,640
We don't have to wonder about the extents and the actionable steps that we take to defend

1150
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:34,240
ourselves as human beings when faced with paranormal forces.

1151
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:38,640
That's going to wrap up this episode of Urban Vampires, the modern vampires lurk in modern

1152
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:39,640
cities.

1153
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:43,640
We're going to keep the campfire going here at the Phenomenon Case Files Podcast.

1154
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:49,160
Stay tuned for part two, where we'll delve into a few more accounts of urban vampires.

1155
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:53,720
We'll peek into modern underground vampire subcultures and shed some light into the methods

1156
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,560
of old and modern day vampire hunters.

1157
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:01,880
Meantime, share, subscribe and spread the word to friends and kindred spirits.

1158
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:07,560
And if you should find yourself walking through a dark alley between high rises and you feel

1159
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:11,320
the burn of glowing eyes on you, look up.

1160
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:36,320
You might just have sighted in a modern city vampire.