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So I was hoping that you could just start with

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taking this through your journey into medicine

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and your practice today. Okay. Yeah, I'd love

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to. And, and first, first of all, Ryan, grateful

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for the opportunity to be here with you. Um,

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I admire the work you're doing. And so this is,

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this is exciting, but just a little bit about

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me. So I've been, uh, I'm a doctor of chiropractic.

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Um, I've been practicing since 2012. And I'm

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actually out of Utah, but I work with clients

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all over the country. And as far as the journey,

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originally, I was planning on going to medical

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school. In fact, in undergraduate school, I volunteered

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in the ER for several months. And then I shadowed

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a lot of different medical doctors. And I thought

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for sure that was the path I was going to take.

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But as I stepped into that space a little bit

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more, I realized that it just didn't feel like

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it was the right fit for me. And it's nothing

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against the profession, because I have family

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and close friends that are involved there. But

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I felt like I needed something different. And

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so fast forward, I was actually trying to determine

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what path I was going to take. And that's where

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I basically stumbled across chiropractic. And

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as I learned more about it, I was like, wow,

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OK, where's this been my whole life? Because

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I never went to one growing up. But then as I

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learned about it, I was like, man, this just

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makes sense. With the whole philosophy of chiropractic

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really is understanding how we can help support

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the body to heal itself. And, you know, the phrase

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that chiropractors use a lot is the innate intelligence

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that's within each of us. And that really resonated

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with me recognizing the power of our body and

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how it's capable of doing incredible things.

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I mean, we witness it. with anyone that's had

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a child, right? You consider a sperm and an egg

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that come together, give it nine months and you

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have this beautiful baby that's came from a cellular

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kind of beginning and how it all comes together

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to work out the way it does. It's just like fascinating

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to see how the body just knows what to do. And

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so one of the things I like to say is that I'm

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You know, in a sense, working with a body, it's

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like working with a cheat code because, you know,

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our bodies are designed to do amazing things.

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And so the way that it's created to be able to

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just operate, um, effortlessly for, for the most

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part, of course we see a lot of illness and disease

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and dysfunction and, and other things that are

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problematic, but When things are aligned properly

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and things are working the way they're meant

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to, it's like the body can do really cool things.

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So it's one of the things that I've loved the

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most about this profession is knowing that with

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some of the ways we can influence the body, it's

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going to heal itself or at least take those steps

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closer to healing. You know, it's kind of like

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I'll jokingly say like, you know, how do we know?

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What the the body needs at certain times and

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it's like I don't know so like you and I we might

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eat a meal and To consider the fact that the

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body's like, okay today, you know the spleen

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needs a little bit more of these nutrients or

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tomorrow It's like, okay the liver is filling

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a little left out and and I don't know how it

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works obviously But it's just fascinating when

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you think of I just chew and swallow and the

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body's like hey, I got you I'm gonna take care

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of this. I'm gonna deliver what needs to be delivered

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to where it needs to go And it's just this constant

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balance that's happening. And anyways, that's

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one of the fascinating things that I love is

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because I can give the body specific things,

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whether it's using tools like nutrition or supplements

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or even just hands -on treatments, different

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things that can influence the brain or the nervous

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system. And then I can just step back and watch

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things unfold. It's pretty fascinating stuff.

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So I've been practicing in Utah for years. And

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over the course of my career, I've always had

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an interest in serving children on the autism

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spectrum. And for a long, long time, honestly,

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I just focused mostly on musculoskeletal things.

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and helping people with like back pain and sports

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injuries and headaches and car accident types

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cases. But as I went through this journey and

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I felt this tug to help families with kids on

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the spectrum, I started opening my mind more

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to other things that were out there as far as

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other services and other ways to to help help

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these individuals, which, of course, in fact,

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has helped me serve a lot of other families and

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individuals to that aren't on the spectrum. And,

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and so the world I've dove into, um, a lot of

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different techniques that I use that are focused

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on neurological balancing, um, I've used, uh,

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I've learned techniques that are focused more

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on, you know, gut health, um, detoxification

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of heavy metals, toxins, you know, environmental

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toxins and infections that are hidden parasites,

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things of that nature. And it's fascinating to

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see when you remove things that don't belong,

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how the body, it's like as if it's taking this

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big sigh of relief and saying, wow, thank you.

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I've been trying to operate as close to normal

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as I can. I'm doing the best I can. I promise

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I'm doing the best I can. But with that burden

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on me, it's really hard sometimes. And so taking

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a step into removing things can sometimes be

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More important than just like making sure we're

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getting enough good stuff in the body because

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sometimes we focus there Where it's like, okay,

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I need my vitamins. I need my minerals. I need

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my nutrients I need to make sure I'm feeding

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myself with all these good things and getting

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good water and that is absolutely critical But

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it's amazingly like when you start to pull things

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out that don't belong It's like then the body's

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like whoa, I can utilize all this other stuff

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way more efficiently and it's like you know,

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at a fraction of the energy, you know, so, um,

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so it's, it's pretty, pretty cool when it, when

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you see that. But, uh, I have two, uh, two stepsisters

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that have sons that are on the autism spectrum.

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And I've witnessed their, um, just the journey

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they've been on and how, um, how, how different

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it is for each of them. Cause their boys are

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on different levels of the spectrum. And where

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one of them is, you know, very, I would say lacks

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independence quite a bit. He is nonverbal, definitely

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struggles with regulating emotions and all sorts

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of things. The other one, he is able to work.

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He's able to communicate, but definitely struggles

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socially with a lot of things. So witnessing

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that and then all the other families that I've

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interacted with, it's just really inspired me

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to want to do more for these families. And so

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that's kind of where I am today, where my big

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journey that I'm on is how can I empower parents

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on the autism journey? How can I help them find

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confidence, peace of mind, and of course, freedom

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and hope? Because I know when we serve a child

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that's on the spectrum, we're serving the whole

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family, right? So, you know, if I'm doing something

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that's benefiting that child, then it can. take

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a burden off of mom and dad and the siblings

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and whoever else is interacting. Because as you

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and I know, it's not an easy path for a lot of

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these families. So it's been a real fun, interesting,

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motivating journey, and I'm excited to share.

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So yeah, that gives you a little background about

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me. And I guess if you want to know, I went to

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school in Portland, Oregon. and spent my years

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there. It's a university called the University

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of Western States. That's where I did my chiropractic

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education. And then since then just have added

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so many other additional trainings and trying

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to understand more of how I can create more value

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for families. So. OK, excellent path. And thank

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you for sharing so much. I like that you mentioned

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like because a lot of people, including myself,

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up until a few years ago, was thinking of that

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chiropractic is more for like the back pain,

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like you're going to go in there and get your

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spine cracked or like, and maybe that's because

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like, those body pains will modulate our attention,

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hijack our attention faster than anything. So

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maybe people can see that quick relief there.

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But chiropractic I've learned is so much more

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than that. Can you Can you think or can you and

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I'll even admit like whenever I think about I

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like neural relation and Then we have those neuro

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epithelial cells and like once I get to the spine

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part like I'm done. I don't Navigate that the

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spine seems to be like this huge Connector or

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knee connector of brain and body. Can you can

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you just clear the air and help other people

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understand like oh chiropractic is a good thing

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for autism like there's some something there

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yeah definitely i'd love to i appreciate that

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question too and and i think one thing that's

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fascinating to think about is the way that our

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body was created and the innate wisdom that the

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body has as far as like how it's protecting itself

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if you think about probably in my opinion You

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know, the most vital organ in the body is the

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brain and the nervous system. Um, and those are

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the two organs that I'll say that the, they're

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basically one, but the brain and the spinal cord

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that are fully encased in bone, every other organ

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and gland, you know, you have some holes in your

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hearts or in your ribs, you know, there's muscle

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there, of course, but Of course, the heart's

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critical, the colon's critical, the liver's critical,

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all of it's critical, but it is fascinating to

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think of that. But if you think about the brain

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and the spine and how the way it works is, so

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that spinal cord, you have these finger -like

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nerves that come out of each level of your spine.

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And those nerves will go and communicate and

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send strength and energy to your muscles. to

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your organs and glands and to every cell in the

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body. Now there is a feedback loop that does

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go back up to the brain. So it's like this constant,

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I guess you could say circle of information.

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So brain to body, body to brain. And when there's

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different things like, for example, using chiropractic

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with the spine, if you have some of those vertebrae

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that are out of alignment, that can cause an

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additional stress or strain on those nerves exiting

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the spinal cord. And that means wherever that

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nerve is going to, it could potentially be that

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that signal could be dampened or diminished a

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little bit to where it's not as strong or as

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powerful as you would hope it to be. And so one

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of the fascinating things that I've witnessed

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in this world is there's some really cool ways

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you can measure um, function, for example, um,

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with using spinal adjustments, as well as what

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I call palpation, which just is a fancy word

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for contacting points on the body to fill for

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muscle tension. And I can witness within like

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a period of time, uh, an actual change depending

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on where that nerve is coming out of the spine

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and what it's communicating with. And so if I

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create an adjustment, Well, let's just say this,

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let's use, for example, the stomach. Okay. So

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there's a spot right under your sternum, um,

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right there that can get really tense and tight

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if your stomach is unhappy. And, and so, um,

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that can be connected to acid reflux. It could

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be connected to some hidden infections. It could

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be connected to. Um, you know, toxins, or it

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could be connected to bad food. Maybe, you know,

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you ate something that was a little sour or whatever.

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And if you touch right under your sternum and

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if it's sensitive there, and if the muscle's

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really tight, that could indicate that the stomach's

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unhappy. Now, if you go to the spine and you

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look at vertebrates numbers about T, um, T four

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to T six or T three to T six, T seven area. If

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you provide an adjustment there and well first

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of all if you feel there's some tension there

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and there's the vertebrae aren't moving as well

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as it should Then you can provide an adjustment

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that then can release some tension there and

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that allows Not just the muscles to relax and

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the back to feel better But it can also allow

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that nerve communication to flow more freely

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And then if I go back to that stomach point after

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that adjustment and I feel that the muscle has

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relaxed there, too then what's neat is we can

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see that there was a connection between the spine

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and the stomach being unhappy rather than maybe

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there was no issue with the food or a toxin.

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So it's like, it's a feedback that I can observe

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and look at to where I can check those things

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and then go and recheck this thing underneath

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the sternum. And it's pretty fascinating. Now,

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if I go back to that sternum after I adjust the

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spine, and I feel it's still tense and it's still

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uncomfortable for that patient, then that tells

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me the spine didn't have involvement in this

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case, but that it is probably something else.

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So it's a unique way where I can have an opportunity

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to really kind of evaluate what's maybe the underlying

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issue here and where I can go. I'll give you

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another example. I had a patient who would share

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that she would Sometimes come in with this really

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sore back. And it usually was connected with

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after she ate a meal that just didn't sit well.

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And then sure enough, it would create a, what

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we call a visceral somatic reflex. So a visceral

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meaning organ or gland and somatic meaning muscle

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tissue bone. Okay. And so you can have the opposite,

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which is a somato visceral reflex. where if the

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muscle or tissue or the bones are off that can

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cause an organ or gland to be stressed. But in

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this case she had a visceral somatic reflex where

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her stomach was upset because of food and as

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a result she started feeling pain in her back.

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Anyways, we were able to do some things that

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helped her stomach that then actually helped

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alleviate some back pain too. And so it's pretty

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fascinating how it can go both ways. A simple

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way of maybe To just to kind of help this drive

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in this, this message, cause it is a pretty fascinating

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way of how our body works. I mean, imagine this.

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Um, so where I live, there's a main highway that

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runs North and South in, in Utah that goes through

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Salt Lake city. And then of course you have some

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offshoot highways that go to the East and to

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the West. And let's just say, for example, as

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you're going down this highway, um, you notice

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that there's a traffic jam. And it's impeding

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traffic all the way back, you know, several miles.

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Um, and, and let's say it's, it's even past where

00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.679
you go east and west, but that traffic jam, as

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it starts to influence, it starts to come back.

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And now you're also blocking those pathways to

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go east and west. And it's kind of like similar

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to what I'm describing here. So we might have

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a pathway from our brain to our body. That's

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maybe going directly to. that stomach but let's

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say there's a traffic jam there because of some

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underlying stress like chemicals or toxins or

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bad food or hidden infections or whatever then

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that's creating like a feedback to where now

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it's also influencing that nerve that's coming

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down that spinal cord and as it exits the spinal

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cord there's one path that goes to the to the

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left to the stomach and then another path that

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goes to the right to the muscles into the spine

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and so now it's like everything over here that's

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just kind of all you know, gummed up and congested

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from traffic jam, that's also now influencing

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the muscles over here that go down this other

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path. Hopefully that makes sense. Um, but it's,

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uh, it is fascinating. And then of course, you

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know, as we adjust these areas of the body and

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you know, the cervical spine and the thoracic

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spine. So cervical, of course, being the neck,

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thoracics, the middle of the back and the lumbar

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is the lower back, but, um, there's some powerful

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powerful things that can happen from an adjustment

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that can really unlock some things both mentally

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and emotionally as well as physically. So, did

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I do an okay job explaining that, Ryan? Yeah,

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I love the road analogy because it's a perfect

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analogy. It sounds like what the chiropractor

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can do is get closer to the problem. If it's

00:17:51.380 --> 00:17:56.119
body because the brain will register it but from

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there what happens like the brain is the one

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that's like Receiving the signal and making sense

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of the pain where the pain is happening But you

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can get down there and get closer to the problem

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you bet and Reveal the true root cause and I

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like that about medicine is finding root cause

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problems And not just like the symptom treatment.

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You bet. Yeah. Are those ganglion cells that

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you were talking about that's communicating there

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or no? Yeah. You definitely do have some of those

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ganglion cells. Um, and, uh, so you got the nerve,

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um, you've got those nerves as they're exiting

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the spine and, you know, the, um, you know, we

00:18:44.220 --> 00:18:47.039
call those of course, peripheral nerves, um,

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as they're exiting the spine. And there is some

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ganglion and then there is this feedback that's

00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:56.160
constantly going on. So you got what we call

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motor and sensory. So motor nerves are ones that

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go from the brain to the body and sensory nerves

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are ones that go from the body to the brain.

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And so it's kind of like that motor and sensory

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nerves working together in tandem. Um, a very

00:19:12.130 --> 00:19:15.509
good example would be me like opening and closing

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my hand right now. This is me telling my motor

00:19:18.490 --> 00:19:22.910
nerves to, to work. But let's say if I, if I

00:19:22.910 --> 00:19:26.109
touch a hot stove, the sensory sends that signal

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so fast that then the motor throws down another

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signal really quick to say, pull back, you know,

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it's kind of, kind of a fascinating thing where

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you see the, that happen. Yeah. Yeah. Those things

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that we don't have to necessarily think about.

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Exactly. That's like, that's like your field.

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Some psychology, which is what like, autism and

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psychiatry kind of falls under. Yeah, it's just

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like, it's those things that we don't have to

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think about. Is that? Yeah, so maybe we can talk

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about those motor and sensory neurons as it relates

00:20:05.190 --> 00:20:07.509
to autism, because those are definitely involved

00:20:07.509 --> 00:20:10.529
with the brain and body connection and things

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like apraxia. I don't know if you have any experience

00:20:14.750 --> 00:20:18.750
with apraxia. And then I'm thinking also like

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the somatosensory and motor cortex too, if you

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have any information about how the spine and

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body is interacting with those two areas right

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there. Do you have experience with working with

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people that have autism and regarding like those

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motor and sensory problems? And is it the somatosensory

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area, motor cortex area that is the ultimate

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receiver of the sensory neurons that you're talking

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about and then facilitating those motor? Yeah.

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So there's a doctor that I've trained under.

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His name is Dr. Alan Phillips. He's from New

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Zealand. He's a DO, so a doctor of osteopathy.

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Through his research and his clinical applications

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and study and determinations, he's been able

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to create a system that's been pretty fascinating.

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It's called the neurological integration system

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or his company. I think is called neuro link.

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Um, but his work has probably been one of the

00:21:35.859 --> 00:21:38.859
most fascinating things where we've used basically

00:21:38.859 --> 00:21:41.599
kind of what you're talking about. And it's a

00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.319
way to test different points on the body to see

00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:49.180
if there's a signal default or not. And so there's

00:21:49.180 --> 00:21:52.539
a lot of muscle testing that I use. Where we

00:21:52.539 --> 00:21:55.660
use, um, the stimulus from a muscle spindle cell.

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Um, for example, if I have a patient. And if

00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:01.740
some of these kids can't do this on their own,

00:22:01.799 --> 00:22:05.900
so I can actually test using their parent and

00:22:05.900 --> 00:22:08.339
I can use their arm. It's like, I can have their,

00:22:08.339 --> 00:22:10.579
the parent hold their arm out and then why I'm

00:22:10.579 --> 00:22:14.180
testing their arm. I'll test and have them hold

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it and they'll hold strong. And that's my baseline.

00:22:16.910 --> 00:22:19.970
But then as I touch certain points on the child's

00:22:19.970 --> 00:22:22.130
body, because if we're right there in the same

00:22:22.130 --> 00:22:25.250
space together, we can actually do this. It's

00:22:25.250 --> 00:22:28.730
pretty fascinating. But I can test the parent.

00:22:28.789 --> 00:22:31.490
And as I touch the child, let's just say I touch

00:22:31.490 --> 00:22:34.690
the prefrontal, I'll touch the premotor cortex.

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This spot here has some unique connections neurologically

00:22:37.990 --> 00:22:42.109
with the hippocampus, the amygdala, the visual

00:22:42.109 --> 00:22:45.289
cortex, auditory cortex, all those things. And

00:22:45.289 --> 00:22:48.009
there's ways we can test different, different,

00:22:48.009 --> 00:22:51.130
um, uh, you know, an opportunity to test to see

00:22:51.130 --> 00:22:53.690
if some of those things are connecting or engaging

00:22:53.690 --> 00:22:56.250
or functioning. And then there's these unique

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little ways of how we can contact points on the

00:22:59.109 --> 00:23:02.130
body. To where it's like sending information

00:23:02.130 --> 00:23:04.349
to the nervous system to hit a reset button.

00:23:04.829 --> 00:23:08.670
And so we, we do function with that often. And

00:23:08.670 --> 00:23:11.009
we find that there's some really neat things

00:23:11.009 --> 00:23:15.799
that can initiate, um, change. with even just

00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:18.099
some of these gentle little touch and corrections.

00:23:18.859 --> 00:23:22.559
So it's pretty powerful. Dr. Phillips, his work

00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:26.640
is really fascinating. And that's one of the

00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:29.799
ways that we really can tap into that sensory

00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:34.440
motor complex, because we can use this both for,

00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:39.660
for example, different aspects with I'll give

00:23:39.660 --> 00:23:43.779
you a simple example of how well the right brain

00:23:43.779 --> 00:23:45.799
and the left brain are communicating together.

00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:48.960
And you've got that spot right in the middle

00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:53.440
there that is a bridge. And where if there's

00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:57.460
something that's just not connecting or flowing

00:23:57.460 --> 00:24:00.039
as well, there's unique ways we can test that

00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.539
just using some muscle testing and me contacting

00:24:02.539 --> 00:24:05.819
different points on the body. And then we can

00:24:05.819 --> 00:24:09.839
create a correction. And it can be instantaneous

00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:12.960
to see the correction being made. But then, of

00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:16.319
course, the body will then process that and it

00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:20.420
will, you know, over to over the next. Sometimes

00:24:20.420 --> 00:24:22.740
it can be really, really fast where you see it

00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:24.819
just kind of things click on. And then sometimes

00:24:24.819 --> 00:24:26.700
it's like, OK, the body needs to work through

00:24:26.700 --> 00:24:30.509
those changes. And within 24, 48 hours. You'll

00:24:30.509 --> 00:24:33.009
even start to see some improvements. One of the

00:24:33.009 --> 00:24:35.750
big signs that I see when I know things are working

00:24:35.750 --> 00:24:38.789
internally with the nervous system is that when

00:24:38.789 --> 00:24:41.769
I'm done working with a patient, they feel exhausted

00:24:41.769 --> 00:24:43.990
and they just want to go home and take a nap.

00:24:44.369 --> 00:24:46.430
Um, and you start to see their eyes start to

00:24:46.430 --> 00:24:49.589
gloss over. Um, but with these little corrections

00:24:49.589 --> 00:24:52.390
and these little contact points as we're touching

00:24:52.390 --> 00:24:54.769
testing, and then there's you, there's unique

00:24:54.769 --> 00:24:58.109
ways to do a little reset. Then you start to

00:24:58.109 --> 00:25:00.910
see things kind of shift and it's really fascinating

00:25:00.910 --> 00:25:03.970
because it gives me a chance to test You know

00:25:03.970 --> 00:25:07.589
apply and then retest and then be able to see

00:25:07.589 --> 00:25:11.450
see some cool changes that happen and so if if

00:25:11.450 --> 00:25:15.829
you wanted to Experience this for yourself You

00:25:15.829 --> 00:25:19.390
would probably want to go to neuro link global

00:25:19.390 --> 00:25:23.759
and there's different NIS practitioners throughout

00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.900
the United States. And actually there's several

00:25:26.900 --> 00:25:31.180
in Australia, New Zealand, Europe as well that

00:25:31.180 --> 00:25:36.460
do this type of work. So I'm one of many that

00:25:36.460 --> 00:25:38.960
uses that technique and it's pretty fascinating.

00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:44.420
Okay, so your practice has that? Yeah, we do

00:25:44.420 --> 00:25:50.079
that here. Is Dr. Phillips the one that kind

00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:54.660
of introduced you to that? So he's the grandfather

00:25:54.660 --> 00:25:57.319
of the technique. He's the one that basically

00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:01.019
developed it. And then there's another doctor

00:26:01.019 --> 00:26:03.960
that's here in the States. He's from Seattle

00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:08.720
area named Dr. Jim Bents. He would be a great

00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.019
person to interview to give you more details

00:26:11.019 --> 00:26:13.400
about NIS if you wanted to learn more about that.

00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:17.789
But he's the one that I Um, he's the main contact

00:26:17.789 --> 00:26:20.869
for the United States that, um, is someone that

00:26:20.869 --> 00:26:24.630
I learned under him. And then I've gone to seminars

00:26:24.630 --> 00:26:27.750
internationally, like up in Canada, um, where

00:26:27.750 --> 00:26:31.049
I met Dr. Phillips there and we did some training.

00:26:31.049 --> 00:26:33.829
And so I've, I have worked closely with him just

00:26:33.829 --> 00:26:36.789
through those seminars and different conferences

00:26:36.789 --> 00:26:40.970
that I've been to. Okay. Um, because the reason

00:26:40.970 --> 00:26:44.529
I asked is because, um, Just like our conversation

00:26:44.529 --> 00:26:47.410
earlier or the question earlier about people

00:26:47.410 --> 00:26:51.430
not understanding how Chiropractic practices

00:26:51.430 --> 00:26:55.890
can help these these types of conditions and

00:26:55.890 --> 00:26:58.890
People might think that it's like pseudo or you

00:26:58.890 --> 00:27:02.710
know, they're just being sold Procedures, but

00:27:02.710 --> 00:27:06.009
yeah Whenever I learned about it. I knew somebody

00:27:06.009 --> 00:27:09.930
personally that took their child to Louisville

00:27:09.930 --> 00:27:14.839
for this type of thing. And it's like, Oh, what

00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:18.480
is this? But you know, that I mentioned earlier,

00:27:18.539 --> 00:27:21.220
like when once it gets below the brainstem, I'm

00:27:21.220 --> 00:27:24.900
just like, I don't necessarily do that as much.

00:27:25.299 --> 00:27:31.099
Yeah. So can you can you tell us about this to

00:27:31.099 --> 00:27:34.740
say that a parent is calling you wanting to set

00:27:34.740 --> 00:27:39.000
up a an evaluation or so forth for their child

00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:41.119
with autism? Can you just take us through that

00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:47.119
process? Sure. Yeah. So I still work face to

00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:50.220
face with a lot of those families where I do

00:27:50.220 --> 00:27:52.680
the hands on work, similar to kind of what I've

00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.500
explaining. So if someone were to come, come

00:27:55.500 --> 00:27:59.970
in. We would basically the the evaluation would

00:27:59.970 --> 00:28:02.369
be I'd be looking at their spine. I'd be filling

00:28:02.369 --> 00:28:05.089
their vertebrae I'd be feeling to see how well

00:28:05.089 --> 00:28:08.549
things are moving I pay special attention especially

00:28:08.549 --> 00:28:11.470
to the upper cervical part so right where that

00:28:11.470 --> 00:28:14.410
brainstem and spinal cord come together if there's

00:28:14.410 --> 00:28:19.349
a lot of dysfunction or you know any kind of

00:28:19.349 --> 00:28:21.490
restriction there that can definitely have some

00:28:21.490 --> 00:28:25.029
strong influence on on the nervous system and

00:28:25.029 --> 00:28:29.339
then Through there, we, we evaluate, um, the,

00:28:29.579 --> 00:28:32.299
the function of the spine, but then I get into,

00:28:32.299 --> 00:28:34.759
um, checking some of those points that I was

00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.640
talking about as far as palpation. So filling

00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.880
for points of where I feel what we call an involuntary

00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.960
muscle contraction. Those are some spots that

00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:46.680
I would look at. Cause that can give me an indication

00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.700
if there's organs or glands that could be under

00:28:49.700 --> 00:28:53.579
stress. Cause again, that's that visceral somatic

00:28:53.579 --> 00:28:56.819
reflex that we're looking at. And then I take

00:28:56.819 --> 00:28:59.220
note of that. And then I have some unique ways

00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:03.400
where we can do some more muscle testing or kinesiology

00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:05.539
is maybe a word some people are familiar with

00:29:05.539 --> 00:29:09.500
and where I'll actually test and I'll touch different

00:29:09.500 --> 00:29:12.759
points of the body. For example, you know, if

00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:16.559
I touch right on the back of the head that I'm

00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:19.380
testing to see if the cerebellum is under stress

00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:23.630
or if I touch right here in between. You know

00:29:23.630 --> 00:29:26.950
my eyebrows that i'm testing for that has a unique

00:29:26.950 --> 00:29:31.029
reflex point with the pineal gland or if i touch

00:29:31.029 --> 00:29:33.849
of course right here in the throat and i muscle

00:29:33.849 --> 00:29:36.609
test and the arm drops that can be indicating

00:29:36.609 --> 00:29:38.950
that the thyroid gland might be under stress

00:29:38.950 --> 00:29:41.809
so i go through and i do an organ gland scan

00:29:41.809 --> 00:29:44.710
and i determine and i make note of all the organs

00:29:44.710 --> 00:29:47.670
or glands that seem to be having a signal default

00:29:47.670 --> 00:29:51.539
and then from there We then try to figure out,

00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:53.859
okay, what's the priority? And there's unique

00:29:53.859 --> 00:29:55.960
ways where we can determine what the priority

00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:00.079
organ or gland is. And then we determine through

00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.539
using different frequencies. You know, I use

00:30:03.539 --> 00:30:06.539
a lot of physics in my office. We use chemistry

00:30:06.539 --> 00:30:08.599
with like blood work and urine and stuff like

00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.299
that. But I like to use physics because it's

00:30:11.299 --> 00:30:13.539
fast, easy, and it's still really effective.

00:30:13.940 --> 00:30:15.680
And so I have different frequencies where we

00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.049
can go and maybe test over the liver and we can

00:30:19.049 --> 00:30:21.349
see okay, what's causing stress there and I have

00:30:21.349 --> 00:30:24.549
frequencies of things like Heavy metals or I

00:30:24.549 --> 00:30:27.950
have a frequency of parasites And so if the arm

00:30:27.950 --> 00:30:30.569
that I'm testing drops when I'm holding that

00:30:30.569 --> 00:30:33.170
against the body Then that's the body way of

00:30:33.170 --> 00:30:35.789
giving me indication that this is causing stress

00:30:35.789 --> 00:30:38.509
here If the arm stays strong when I'm testing

00:30:38.509 --> 00:30:40.490
over there with whatever it is I'm holding in

00:30:40.490 --> 00:30:42.869
my hand that has that frequency, and there are

00:30:42.869 --> 00:30:45.710
these little vials that have the frequency just

00:30:45.710 --> 00:30:49.109
to kind of give you an idea. Then if the arm

00:30:49.109 --> 00:30:51.089
stays strong, then that's the body giving me

00:30:51.089 --> 00:30:53.230
feedback saying, hey, this isn't a problem. You

00:30:53.230 --> 00:30:55.170
know, we don't need to worry about this, but

00:30:55.170 --> 00:30:57.970
we can do that with testing all sorts of frequencies

00:30:57.970 --> 00:31:02.309
from, you know, parasites to heavy metal toxins

00:31:02.309 --> 00:31:07.539
to chemicals. to fungus, to mold, to candida

00:31:07.539 --> 00:31:11.619
and yeast, to Lyme's disease like Borrelia, Babesia,

00:31:11.740 --> 00:31:15.000
Ehrlichia, Mycoplasma, Bartonella. Those are

00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.720
all part of the Lyme disease family. Rickettsia

00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:19.920
would be part of that too. Those are, you know,

00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.380
underlying hidden infections. We can also test

00:31:23.380 --> 00:31:27.839
the frequency of bacteria and viruses, as well

00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:32.140
as like radiation, radon gas, you know, really

00:31:32.140 --> 00:31:35.269
lots of different things. even checking for foods

00:31:35.269 --> 00:31:38.670
like maybe someone is really reactive to to dairy

00:31:38.670 --> 00:31:42.089
or or to gluten or maybe it's none of those and

00:31:42.089 --> 00:31:44.569
it's more eggs and so there's there's ways we

00:31:44.569 --> 00:31:47.470
can even hold the frequency of those foods and

00:31:47.470 --> 00:31:49.509
hold it against the body and do some testing

00:31:49.509 --> 00:31:52.589
and So we're just gathering a lot of information

00:31:52.589 --> 00:31:55.809
trying to understand. What is the body's priority

00:31:55.809 --> 00:31:59.130
trying to figure out? What's creating the most

00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:02.890
stress on the system at this time? And then from

00:32:02.890 --> 00:32:05.470
there, we go forward and then we create a plan

00:32:05.470 --> 00:32:11.809
to help with that individual. So that gives you

00:32:11.809 --> 00:32:14.369
an idea. And then some other techniques we'll

00:32:14.369 --> 00:32:18.809
use are, so I talked about NIS, another one that

00:32:18.809 --> 00:32:21.710
a doctor from Florida, he developed, his name's

00:32:21.710 --> 00:32:25.450
Dr. Michael Chance, and it's called the hypothalamus

00:32:25.450 --> 00:32:28.900
reset technique. And the hypothalamus is a critical

00:32:28.900 --> 00:32:31.220
part of the brain. That's I would say it's the

00:32:31.220 --> 00:32:34.660
control tower for so many things with like temperature

00:32:34.660 --> 00:32:38.279
control, appetite, hormone function. You know,

00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.480
it does help regulate the nervous system with

00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.960
with different things. And so it's also part

00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.579
of that limbic center of the brain with the emotions

00:32:45.579 --> 00:32:47.960
and things of that nature and stress and trauma.

00:32:48.460 --> 00:32:51.720
So there's a unique technique called the hypothalamus

00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:56.059
reset technique that we use. And then a big thing

00:32:56.059 --> 00:32:58.960
that I'm doing virtually for my patients is really

00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.680
mostly focusing on cellular healing. And so that's

00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.339
where we determine and try to understand, well,

00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.859
I've created a plan that's been working fantastically

00:33:09.859 --> 00:33:14.279
with so many families. It's designed to help

00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:18.319
heal at the cell level. reduce cellular inflammation.

00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.500
And then of course, since our body is made up

00:33:21.500 --> 00:33:25.740
of trillions of cells, if we can help improve

00:33:25.740 --> 00:33:28.740
the cellular health, then that naturally ripples

00:33:28.740 --> 00:33:32.579
into so many other things. And so with that program,

00:33:33.299 --> 00:33:37.200
we use a lot of focus on... preparing the body

00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:42.059
by supporting the downstream detox pathways and

00:33:42.059 --> 00:33:44.180
the drainage funnel, which would include your

00:33:44.180 --> 00:33:47.220
liver, your kidney, your colon, your lymphatic

00:33:47.220 --> 00:33:49.720
system. We make sure those areas are working

00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.799
properly because again, what's causing cellular

00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.759
inflammation and inflammation at the brain and

00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:58.920
the nervous system. Oftentimes can be some of

00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.299
those things we've talked about such as, you

00:34:01.299 --> 00:34:04.480
know, heavy metal toxicity, chemical toxicity,

00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:09.199
environmental toxins, parasites, mold, fungus,

00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.800
hidden infections, things of that nature. Just

00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.360
to give you a quick example, I had a mother bring

00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:18.579
a child into my office. This has probably been

00:34:18.579 --> 00:34:22.019
a year and a half ago now. And this cute little

00:34:22.019 --> 00:34:25.650
baby was only a month old. And he was having

00:34:25.650 --> 00:34:30.269
seizures. And the parents went to their doctor.

00:34:31.250 --> 00:34:34.329
They didn't know why this child was having seizures.

00:34:35.070 --> 00:34:38.010
And they tried some different things and it wasn't

00:34:38.010 --> 00:34:42.329
calming down the seizure response. So she was

00:34:42.329 --> 00:34:44.969
referred into our office by a family member that

00:34:44.969 --> 00:34:49.730
had come to us. And this mom brings in her baby

00:34:49.730 --> 00:34:52.610
boy. and as i'm going through and doing this

00:34:52.610 --> 00:34:54.849
exact same kind of testing that i'm describing

00:34:54.849 --> 00:34:57.909
with you using the mom to do some muscle testing

00:34:57.909 --> 00:35:00.949
using those frequencies to try to determine what's

00:35:00.949 --> 00:35:03.530
causing stress on this this poor little baby's

00:35:03.530 --> 00:35:07.769
nervous system and what's crazy ryan is we discovered

00:35:07.769 --> 00:35:10.929
that it was microscopic parasites of all things

00:35:11.230 --> 00:35:14.190
How does a newborn baby get parasites? I don't

00:35:14.190 --> 00:35:17.190
know. And it's not because the parents are not

00:35:17.190 --> 00:35:20.409
not because they're unclean or they're, you know,

00:35:20.550 --> 00:35:23.389
careless. There's nothing of that nature. But

00:35:23.389 --> 00:35:27.670
somehow this child had been exposed to it. And

00:35:27.670 --> 00:35:30.190
and that was the stressor. And so I have some

00:35:30.190 --> 00:35:33.469
different herbs that we use in tincture. So liquid.

00:35:33.630 --> 00:35:37.039
And she was able to put it in the bottle. And

00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.760
sure enough, within a matter of a week or so,

00:35:41.340 --> 00:35:45.119
those seizures calmed down and stopped. They

00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:48.139
went on vacation, actually, and left the supplements

00:35:48.139 --> 00:35:50.920
behind that were designed to help with killing

00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.239
the parasites and helping flush it out of the

00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.480
body. And they forgot. And guess what? The seizures

00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:00.300
came back. And the reason why is because they

00:36:00.300 --> 00:36:03.239
hadn't done it long enough. And so as they went

00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:06.329
through that process, After a good, you know,

00:36:06.429 --> 00:36:08.650
probably two months of using these products,

00:36:09.349 --> 00:36:12.670
the seizures didn't return. Um, and now that

00:36:12.670 --> 00:36:16.909
little boy is, uh, walking around in 18 months

00:36:16.909 --> 00:36:19.050
or so. Well, yeah, he's probably about 18 months

00:36:19.050 --> 00:36:22.690
now and, and doing, doing great. Um, but it,

00:36:22.750 --> 00:36:24.949
but it was something like that, that you would

00:36:24.949 --> 00:36:27.610
never really think about, but killing that hidden

00:36:27.610 --> 00:36:31.170
infection helped relieve the cellular inflammation

00:36:31.170 --> 00:36:34.030
at the nerve that was affecting the nervous system.

00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:40.760
That's remarkable. Yeah. Oh my goodness And of

00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.480
course, that's that's his unique story So I wouldn't

00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.800
say everyone that has a seizure is it's probably

00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.480
parasites But you never know until you start

00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:53.980
trying to look and to search for it Yeah, that

00:36:53.980 --> 00:36:57.760
that root cause finding again. Yeah, which is

00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:03.050
hard to do if you know There's so many different

00:37:03.050 --> 00:37:05.150
ways of going about that, but it sounds like

00:37:05.150 --> 00:37:07.789
you were able to find it pretty fast Yeah, fortunately

00:37:07.789 --> 00:37:10.750
just again I've been really blessed to come across

00:37:10.750 --> 00:37:13.030
different doctors throughout my career where

00:37:13.030 --> 00:37:15.349
it's it's almost like I find them at the right

00:37:15.349 --> 00:37:18.949
time You know and then they have you know connections

00:37:18.949 --> 00:37:22.090
with different techniques or different education

00:37:22.090 --> 00:37:25.469
or different ways of applying some of this and

00:37:25.469 --> 00:37:29.079
so I guess you could say I've I've kind of created

00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:33.159
this potpourri of things where, you know, you

00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:36.639
come to my office and you could, even though

00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:38.400
I have a lot of different techniques, I wouldn't

00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.539
say people are paying to receive a technique.

00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:43.000
They're just wanting to receive health. And so

00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.780
we use all the tools we have. And depending on

00:37:45.780 --> 00:37:48.360
that individual, we have tools that we know we

00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.000
can use to try to understand, okay, what's the

00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:54.980
underlying stressor? Why is this happening? And

00:37:54.980 --> 00:37:58.280
then what tools can we use to help reset or allow

00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:03.219
the body to heal itself? Yeah, I see a lot of

00:38:03.219 --> 00:38:06.659
different conditions, especially those so -called

00:38:06.659 --> 00:38:10.400
psychiatric conditions that you treat on your

00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.960
website at True North Cairo. And it makes me

00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:18.980
think that these are mostly connected or all

00:38:18.980 --> 00:38:22.719
of them are connected upstream. Yeah. But our

00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:26.500
paradigm kind of just tends to treat symptoms.

00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.940
Can you talk a little bit about how all of those

00:38:31.940 --> 00:38:35.800
conditions, if you find like they're maybe kind

00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.780
of connected, maybe they just manifest differently?

00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:42.420
Yeah, as far as which conditions specifically?

00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:48.300
Well, I saw like the ADD autism, schizophrenia

00:38:48.300 --> 00:38:51.320
was on there, things like bipolar was on there.

00:38:52.180 --> 00:38:55.820
if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Like there was maybe

00:38:55.820 --> 00:38:59.480
12 to 15 conditions there. Sure. Yeah. So there's

00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:03.260
a few different ways we go about that. So I kind

00:39:03.260 --> 00:39:06.000
of explained a little bit, but the the unique

00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.880
connection between all of it is there's a few

00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:13.420
things. So there typically is some kind of an

00:39:13.420 --> 00:39:16.760
underlying stressor that maybe hasn't been found.

00:39:17.420 --> 00:39:21.239
So it could be one of those hidden toxins or

00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.320
infections that we, we talked about, but then

00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:28.039
there could also be old trauma. So it could be

00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:31.199
both physical trauma and emotional trauma that

00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:33.599
can, can create, I guess you could call it like

00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:37.019
a PTSD. And of course, when I first thought of

00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:39.320
PTSD a long time ago, I thought, Oh, that's only

00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:41.639
connected to people that have gone to war and

00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:43.639
witnessed, you know, awful things and they come

00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:47.960
back and whatever. But man, you can have PTSD

00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:52.530
from, um, All sorts of things and we, you know,

00:39:52.530 --> 00:39:56.489
you might not even know it. And so I've, I've,

00:39:56.489 --> 00:39:58.829
I've seen how there's unique connections though,

00:39:58.909 --> 00:40:02.550
with emotional stress and trauma that can definitely

00:40:02.550 --> 00:40:05.750
also influence the nervous system. And then when

00:40:05.750 --> 00:40:08.090
that nervous system has been influenced in a

00:40:08.090 --> 00:40:11.969
negative way, that can also create, um, I guess

00:40:11.969 --> 00:40:14.429
you could say imbalanced patterns with brain

00:40:14.429 --> 00:40:18.800
waves. And, and then that can also. Snowball

00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:23.719
into other issues for example usually for a lot

00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:28.039
of people. This isn't the case for everyone but

00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.639
a lot of times anxiety that's been going on long

00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:35.460
enough. Can eventually turn into depression right

00:40:35.460 --> 00:40:40.820
or some of these other things can be an underlying

00:40:40.820 --> 00:40:43.599
stress or trigger now again you gotta remember.

00:40:44.210 --> 00:40:47.110
That again the way our body was created is designed

00:40:47.110 --> 00:40:51.269
to be self healing self regulating. And it and

00:40:51.269 --> 00:40:54.489
it's it's capable of doing that but if it's not

00:40:54.489 --> 00:40:56.590
doing that that's when you have to start to put

00:40:56.590 --> 00:40:59.530
on your investigative hat. And just say instead

00:40:59.530 --> 00:41:01.570
of just trying to treat the symptom to calm down

00:41:01.570 --> 00:41:05.429
the symptom. You know ask the question why right

00:41:05.429 --> 00:41:09.230
or what is the body trying to tell me. And so

00:41:09.230 --> 00:41:11.929
those are the things that really we look at.

00:41:11.949 --> 00:41:14.889
We do have a treatment in our office called neurofeedback.

00:41:15.389 --> 00:41:18.389
And that's one of those unique things where you

00:41:18.389 --> 00:41:22.210
actually, to determine, it's a way to determine

00:41:22.210 --> 00:41:25.690
if the brain waves are in balance. And so we

00:41:25.690 --> 00:41:27.889
use like a shower cap. It looks like a shower

00:41:27.889 --> 00:41:30.570
cap. It's got all these little sensors in it.

00:41:30.710 --> 00:41:33.289
And then we'll put gel into the sensors to where

00:41:33.289 --> 00:41:36.920
it's touching the scalp. to the sensor. So the

00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:39.900
liquid gel kind of gives us that connection to

00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:43.760
the brain waves. And then we have a software

00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.079
that allows us to be able to interpret which

00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:49.480
brain waves are working too fast or too slow,

00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:52.480
or if they're imbalanced, or if they're right

00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:54.400
-sided imbalance, left -sided imbalance, all

00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.260
that stuff. So we're looking at, you know, delta,

00:41:57.539 --> 00:42:02.119
theta, beta, high beta, and alpha. And that has

00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:04.519
an opportunity to see what's going on there.

00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:07.500
So So this is one of those ways where we can

00:42:07.500 --> 00:42:11.559
help create a shift in in training the brain

00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:14.599
It's kind of like hiring a personal trainer For

00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.019
your brain instead of going to the gym to hire

00:42:17.019 --> 00:42:18.880
a personal trainer for your getting big muscles

00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.920
You know the neurofeedback is in a sense. That's

00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.880
what it is. And so that's been a tool that's

00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:29.079
been really fascinating and so we do see with

00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:32.059
some of those brain waves and which ones and

00:42:32.059 --> 00:42:34.219
which part of the brain where it might be too

00:42:34.219 --> 00:42:37.519
fast or too slow that could be connected to,

00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.800
you know, depression, anxiety, insomnia, ADD,

00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:47.179
ADHD, PTSD, OCD, chronic headaches or migraines

00:42:47.179 --> 00:42:50.500
can also have some connection here as well as

00:42:50.500 --> 00:42:55.019
post -concussion syndrome. So those things can

00:42:55.019 --> 00:42:58.800
all be measured with this brain mapping with

00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:03.239
neuro neurofeedback. And so so that's been fascinating.

00:43:03.699 --> 00:43:08.340
But again, knowing that the underlying cellular

00:43:08.340 --> 00:43:11.579
inflammation, I would say is probably the common

00:43:11.579 --> 00:43:15.280
connecting point to. If we can help calm that

00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:18.659
down, then we start to see again where it's me

00:43:18.659 --> 00:43:20.559
stepping back and saying, OK, body, you know

00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:25.599
what to do from here. You got it. And so. Like

00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:27.619
I'll give you an example of one of our patients

00:43:27.619 --> 00:43:30.300
that has dealt with bipolar depression. He was

00:43:30.300 --> 00:43:34.679
diagnosed with it. He's in his forties He's lived

00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:39.920
with this for decades and You know, we we suggested

00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.760
neurofeedback He declined that option. So then

00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.840
I said, okay. Well, let's focus on the cellular

00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.320
healing part and let's see what happens And sure

00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.639
enough, as we go through our evaluation and determination

00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.460
of what could be underlying stressor on him,

00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:58.860
we determined that there was definitely some

00:43:58.860 --> 00:44:02.480
toxicity and some hidden infections. And as we

00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:05.159
started addressing that, things didn't shift

00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:08.260
right away. This one took some time because again,

00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.440
this man, he'd been dealing with this for decades.

00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:15.739
From the time he was like 12 to 15 years old.

00:44:16.170 --> 00:44:20.389
and now he's, you know, 45. And, and so I knew

00:44:20.389 --> 00:44:23.789
it wasn't going to be a quick fix, but it probably

00:44:23.789 --> 00:44:28.130
took two or three months to where he then things

00:44:28.130 --> 00:44:30.289
started just making that shift. It was probably

00:44:30.289 --> 00:44:32.969
about two months, but we were giving him different

00:44:32.969 --> 00:44:36.150
products that helped with cellular healing, reducing

00:44:36.150 --> 00:44:38.670
inflammation, porting the brain, the nervous

00:44:38.670 --> 00:44:42.849
system, and then detoxification as well. And

00:44:42.849 --> 00:44:46.199
as we've made that shift, It's been amazing.

00:44:46.340 --> 00:44:48.280
It's been life -changing for this individual.

00:44:48.980 --> 00:44:53.760
He's more confident. He's capable of functioning

00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:58.780
on a daily basis where before he had suicidal

00:44:58.780 --> 00:45:02.579
thoughts. He had challenges with focus. He had

00:45:02.579 --> 00:45:05.619
challenges with energy. He had challenges with

00:45:05.619 --> 00:45:10.719
motivation. And so that was his story. We have

00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:12.940
another patient that came in with depression

00:45:12.940 --> 00:45:15.760
and the neurofeedback was the thing that he needed

00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.320
the most. So it's really cool because we got

00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:21.679
a lot of different ways where we can help people

00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.440
and where we can support individuals with their

00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:28.539
needs. But again, our goal is we're not treating

00:45:28.539 --> 00:45:31.179
the condition or the symptom, but we're treating

00:45:31.179 --> 00:45:34.199
the person and trying to understand what's going

00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.159
to be the best fit for them and what they're

00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:39.650
willing to do too. Because you know, we're not

00:45:39.650 --> 00:45:41.909
gonna force anyone or say oh if you don't do

00:45:41.909 --> 00:45:44.369
this then you know, there's no hope It's just

00:45:44.369 --> 00:45:47.309
like okay. Let's meet you where you're at and

00:45:47.309 --> 00:45:52.630
And then we'll go from there And so So, I mean

00:45:52.630 --> 00:45:55.150
healing and working with the body. It's kind

00:45:55.150 --> 00:45:59.190
of like a garden, you know You have to make sure

00:45:59.190 --> 00:46:01.289
you're prepping the soil. You've got to make

00:46:01.289 --> 00:46:04.570
sure that the weeds are removed Then those plants

00:46:04.570 --> 00:46:07.010
can flourish and they can thrive and they can

00:46:07.010 --> 00:46:10.719
produce fruit But if you never take care of the

00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.679
weeds and if you never give the soil the fertilizer

00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.079
and all the good things that it needs, it's hard

00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:18.820
for those plants to really flourish. And so that's

00:46:18.820 --> 00:46:21.679
really probably a good analogy and a part of

00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:25.019
our philosophy is we want to take care of the

00:46:25.019 --> 00:46:28.119
soil. We want to make sure that it gives that

00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:31.059
body and brain a chance to thrive. And I would

00:46:31.059 --> 00:46:33.360
say that's probably the biggest connecting piece

00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:36.869
with all those different conditions. Um, and

00:46:36.869 --> 00:46:39.369
then of course there's fine tuning and tweaking

00:46:39.369 --> 00:46:43.349
and other things like that. So yeah, that's good

00:46:43.349 --> 00:46:46.630
for him, especially, you know, bipolar, um, people,

00:46:46.869 --> 00:46:50.750
especially if they're in a manic episode, you

00:46:50.750 --> 00:46:53.250
know, they don't want to treat or seek treatment

00:46:53.250 --> 00:46:57.449
for sure. So, uh, that's very fascinating stuff.

00:46:58.510 --> 00:47:02.570
The brainwaves are underrated. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

00:47:02.590 --> 00:47:05.719
There's, there's a lot with the brainwaves. And

00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:09.119
especially with autism, the inability to get

00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:13.239
into theta and then high gamma. Do you have experience

00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:16.340
with, um, with checking the brainwaves and autism?

00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:20.300
And do you have like, um, if, if you do, is,

00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.079
is there some like common things that you're

00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:24.920
seeing? You know, unfortunately we haven't done

00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.539
as much with autism in the brain, um, brainwave

00:47:28.539 --> 00:47:32.760
kind of a assessment. We have had some, it does

00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:36.800
seem like though that, um, Alpha is really high,

00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.400
the alpha waves. And then theta seems to be really,

00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:47.480
really off as well. And so I don't have enough

00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:50.059
good data to really, really share about the ones

00:47:50.059 --> 00:47:52.519
that we have done. Those are some of the things

00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.500
that I recall when we've done the brain mapping

00:47:55.500 --> 00:47:58.500
there. The other challenge too with sometimes

00:47:58.500 --> 00:48:02.840
doing a brain map for a kid on the spectrum is

00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:07.679
The result might not always be super accurate.

00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:11.440
And the reason why for you and me, if we do a

00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:16.679
brain map, um, if we just, we can sit still for,

00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:20.039
you know, six minutes more or less. Um, and,

00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.900
and we can do that, but for a kid that's like,

00:48:22.900 --> 00:48:26.619
you know, even if they're neuro typical, um,

00:48:26.829 --> 00:48:29.449
It's still hard to sit still for like five to

00:48:29.449 --> 00:48:31.809
six minutes, you know? So sometimes there can

00:48:31.809 --> 00:48:35.469
be, you know, what we call just little, oh shoot,

00:48:35.510 --> 00:48:39.570
what's the word? Oh, it'll come to me. But just

00:48:39.570 --> 00:48:45.869
little blips of like, okay, that seems like that's

00:48:45.869 --> 00:48:49.730
some kind of a fragment that's, you know, not

00:48:49.730 --> 00:48:54.000
quite right. So that can be one of the challenging

00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:57.000
things, is making sure they're trying to get

00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.599
them to sit still, because at least with the

00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:03.840
type of machine I'm using, that's how it is for

00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:07.059
us. Now, there might be more sophisticated and

00:49:07.059 --> 00:49:10.739
expensive pieces of equipment that maybe certain

00:49:10.739 --> 00:49:14.900
hospitals have, and they might be able to measure

00:49:14.900 --> 00:49:19.280
it a little bit more effectively. But that can

00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.840
be one of the challenges too. But we do know

00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.079
that there is going to be brain activity that

00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.300
is going to be in balance with those brainwaves

00:49:27.300 --> 00:49:30.260
for sure and so So yeah, it would be I would

00:49:30.260 --> 00:49:34.340
love to I would love to see if there was any

00:49:34.340 --> 00:49:36.460
research about that because I I haven't found

00:49:36.460 --> 00:49:39.679
any as far as like just testing kids on the spectrum

00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:42.239
and seeing what the common theme is or the you

00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:44.400
know, Maybe patterns that you're noticing because

00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:47.760
that would be fascinating Yeah, so what I know

00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:51.800
the lack of inhibition because autism has a lot

00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.559
of lack of inhibition, especially the parvalium.

00:49:55.500 --> 00:49:59.219
It doesn't allow theta to work properly. So it's

00:49:59.219 --> 00:50:03.380
a little bit higher. And a guy, I think, Earl

00:50:03.380 --> 00:50:06.380
Miller from MIT, he just released a paper that

00:50:06.380 --> 00:50:08.719
was showing like, we're constantly having this

00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:12.579
theta wave going across like scanning the brain.

00:50:13.460 --> 00:50:18.519
It's kind of suppressing. unwanted things, basically.

00:50:18.980 --> 00:50:21.420
So with autism, you know, that's not happening.

00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:28.239
And then alpha with a thalamic or thalamocortical

00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.719
cortical communications. And you know, that's

00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:35.179
a big, big problem with autism. Yeah, that was

00:50:35.179 --> 00:50:39.039
speaking with a cortex. It's pretty bad stuff.

00:50:40.460 --> 00:50:44.139
Yeah, that inhibition thing is a central theme,

00:50:44.139 --> 00:50:50.900
I think, to autism. on various levels. Yeah.

00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:55.300
For sure. Yeah, it's interesting. One thing that

00:50:55.300 --> 00:50:59.679
I've heard parents report that I work with is

00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:03.539
they'll notice that some of the different therapies

00:51:03.539 --> 00:51:08.360
they use seem to improve when we address some

00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:12.809
of the underlying cellular stress too. which

00:51:12.809 --> 00:51:15.510
like the, the inhibition that you notice, or

00:51:15.510 --> 00:51:18.630
maybe some other things that, um, are, are patterns

00:51:18.630 --> 00:51:21.650
that they have that are, uh, more challenged

00:51:21.650 --> 00:51:25.590
that when you calm down the inner inner chaos,

00:51:26.030 --> 00:51:29.550
how it's like the, the ability to actually engage

00:51:29.550 --> 00:51:32.550
in, say, some of those therapies actually enhances

00:51:32.550 --> 00:51:34.710
and improves too. So it's, that's, that's been

00:51:34.710 --> 00:51:36.329
something that I've found. That's been really

00:51:36.329 --> 00:51:41.840
interesting as well. Yeah. those brainwaves are

00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:45.019
a part of the future, I think. Yeah. It's like,

00:51:45.179 --> 00:51:48.500
imagine a sports team, which in sports earlier,

00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:52.300
it's like, you know, it's all about space and

00:51:52.300 --> 00:51:56.360
time. If, like, if it's a basketball team, people

00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:58.579
have to be like, in sync. And this is what we're

00:51:58.579 --> 00:52:01.460
talking about. We just have to be in sync. And

00:52:01.460 --> 00:52:05.159
that's not happening. So things are not communicating

00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:10.199
and operating. Yeah. The oxidative stress is

00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:13.519
a big thing too. Yeah. Do you have experience

00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:16.659
with that or no? Yeah, I mean indirectly, you

00:52:16.659 --> 00:52:20.619
bet. So yeah, there's different ways to influence

00:52:20.619 --> 00:52:25.400
that. I would say some of the strategies that

00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.599
we use, there's some different products that

00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.679
we have that can help support that and try to

00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:35.780
help increase good healthy oxygenation, better

00:52:35.780 --> 00:52:39.619
blood flow, circulation. but then also, um, trying

00:52:39.619 --> 00:52:42.719
to remove some of those free radicals and, and

00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:46.599
then, um, you know, helping the body just in

00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:48.719
a sense, like clear out some of that stuff and

00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.699
then bring it back in with, follow it up with,

00:52:51.699 --> 00:52:53.800
um, good nutrients and other things that can

00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:57.579
be, um, neuroprotective and supportive too. So,

00:52:58.539 --> 00:53:03.420
but yeah. The, um, correct me if I'm wrong, but

00:53:03.420 --> 00:53:05.360
there was, um, a little section on your website

00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:10.179
about nutrition. with nutrition and autism? Yeah,

00:53:10.179 --> 00:53:15.260
for sure. And both anecdotally from parents and

00:53:15.260 --> 00:53:18.500
patients, but also from some research. I know

00:53:18.500 --> 00:53:21.820
a lot of families have found gluten -free and

00:53:21.820 --> 00:53:24.639
dairy -free to really make a difference for their

00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:29.360
child. And I think it's largely due to some of

00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:31.440
those proteins are just harder for their body

00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:35.059
to process. There's a lot of challenges with

00:53:35.059 --> 00:53:38.480
these kids with methylation. and how well they

00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:42.000
can basically process certain B vitamins. And

00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:43.780
of course, if they're struggling there, then

00:53:43.780 --> 00:53:47.039
that means it creates a ripple effect into other

00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:51.280
aspects. And so good nutrition can make a really

00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.519
big difference. In fact, one family I was talking

00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:56.340
with a couple of weeks ago, just from some of

00:53:56.340 --> 00:54:00.059
the changes they made with diet, huge, huge improvements

00:54:00.059 --> 00:54:03.360
with some behavior and some of the habits that

00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:06.739
this child was displaying. Um, you know, getting

00:54:06.739 --> 00:54:11.519
rid of like the, um, you know, the, some of the

00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:14.239
big no -no's that we all, we all should be avoiding

00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:16.559
would be, you know, the different food dyes,

00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.739
you know, red food dye, um, yellow, all those

00:54:19.739 --> 00:54:23.480
different ones can create some excitotoxicity

00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:26.820
and, and, um, to the nerves and can cause some

00:54:26.820 --> 00:54:33.030
added stress. Um, reducing. the inflammatory

00:54:33.030 --> 00:54:36.869
components in our diet, such as, I would definitely

00:54:36.869 --> 00:54:38.750
strongly recommend, and this is something anyone

00:54:38.750 --> 00:54:41.030
can apply, and actually it could be a benefit

00:54:41.030 --> 00:54:44.530
if you're not doing it already. But with the

00:54:44.530 --> 00:54:48.250
type of oils that we cook with, for example,

00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:52.869
canola oil and soybean oil, very highly processed.

00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.579
You could argue that it's maybe best to use an

00:54:57.579 --> 00:55:02.360
attractor because it's definitely not designed

00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:07.559
to be consumed for for us and it's a large large

00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:09.880
part of it is just the way that it's manufactured

00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:13.659
and processed and So it's just it's very creates

00:55:13.659 --> 00:55:16.920
a lot of inflammation on the cellular level so

00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:20.579
removing that and exchanging it with like butter

00:55:20.579 --> 00:55:26.619
or ghee or Olive oil or coconut oil or avocado

00:55:26.619 --> 00:55:30.760
oil, those types of things. Much better option

00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:34.039
when it comes to cooking is using something like

00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:37.139
that. And it's something anyone can do. It's

00:55:37.139 --> 00:55:40.440
just without feeling the overwhelm. Unless you

00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:42.679
bought a lifetime of supply of canola oil, then

00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:46.880
I'm sorry, but, but you know, you just. Exchange

00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:49.840
it so you're gonna still cook with oil or something

00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:52.679
like that so instead of using this one that's

00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:56.480
more inflammatory let's bring in this one you

00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:59.960
know that's a healthier option and can still

00:55:59.960 --> 00:56:03.840
get the job done the way you want it to. So so

00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:06.239
those are some things that we have seen and witnessed

00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:10.440
with some of the families. And then definitely

00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:17.400
no reducing some of the process sugars. That

00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.739
would be a big one too, and I would say you know

00:56:20.739 --> 00:56:25.099
gluten is interesting I think that if it was

00:56:25.099 --> 00:56:29.079
a gluten from like say 1980 That would probably

00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:33.039
be okay But the way that our farming has developed

00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.460
and that's become more industrialized and of

00:56:35.460 --> 00:56:39.179
course They use now what they call roundup ready

00:56:39.179 --> 00:56:43.440
crops using glyphosate which can be very damaging

00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:48.360
to the intestines as well as the nervous system.

00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.699
Glyphosate is the main ingredient found in Roundup,

00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:54.980
and it can cause leaky gut, which means if you

00:56:54.980 --> 00:56:57.320
have leaky gut, then you also have a leaky blood

00:56:57.320 --> 00:56:59.940
-brain barrier. And so anything we can do to

00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:03.800
reduce any exposure to some of that. And unfortunately,

00:57:03.860 --> 00:57:07.719
a lot of the wheat and the gluten that this country

00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:12.210
consumes sadly has probably been sprayed with

00:57:12.210 --> 00:57:15.190
some of that stuff. So that's another piece that

00:57:15.190 --> 00:57:18.449
I think is why some kids are more sensitive as

00:57:18.449 --> 00:57:22.349
well. But again, there can be some different

00:57:22.349 --> 00:57:24.769
challenges genetically that can make them have

00:57:24.769 --> 00:57:28.630
a harder time with digestion and processing some

00:57:28.630 --> 00:57:33.010
of that. Yeah. The suggestions on those oils

00:57:33.010 --> 00:57:36.989
are huge because of the lipid, I think. Yes.

00:57:38.670 --> 00:57:42.309
troubles with beta oxidation, something like

00:57:42.309 --> 00:57:47.329
L -carnitine can have improvements. Yes. You

00:57:47.329 --> 00:57:50.150
know, that's a simple fix. Yeah, it is. I don't

00:57:50.150 --> 00:57:53.949
know about lipids and beta oxidation, though.

00:57:54.329 --> 00:57:58.309
I mean, lipids are huge. Yeah. It's like the

00:57:58.309 --> 00:58:00.949
end goal is oxidative phosphorylation. That's

00:58:00.949 --> 00:58:04.010
where all these foods and things are going. And

00:58:04.010 --> 00:58:07.690
that's back to the oxidative stress and cellular

00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:11.260
Um, that's dysfunction, I should say cellular

00:58:11.260 --> 00:58:14.679
dysfunction. Yeah. And, you know, that's just,

00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:21.320
um, changing things, not really adding or. Yeah.

00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.079
It's just, I don't know. It's worth a shot for

00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:26.699
sure. And I'm glad you mentioned like those.

00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:32.199
If you go back to 1980, yeah, maybe is, you know,

00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:34.460
there's been a lot of changes, not necessarily

00:58:34.460 --> 00:58:37.340
good changes and maybe for profit changes. Yeah.

00:58:37.340 --> 00:58:43.969
Right. Yeah, it's very disturbing. I want to

00:58:43.969 --> 00:58:46.829
ask you about, you talked about that one month

00:58:46.829 --> 00:58:48.929
old with the parasite and then you talked about

00:58:48.929 --> 00:58:51.929
the bipolar patient and you're talking about

00:58:51.929 --> 00:58:54.809
giving them something like a mineral or something.

00:58:54.809 --> 00:58:57.670
Can you speak more about how you go about making

00:58:57.670 --> 00:59:00.730
that and is that something that your practice

00:59:00.730 --> 00:59:03.769
has? So I don't make any of the stuff that I'm

00:59:03.769 --> 00:59:05.909
giving. I've got several different companies

00:59:05.909 --> 00:59:09.320
that I use. And so I purchased the products,

00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:12.699
and then I just find the ones that are gonna

00:59:12.699 --> 00:59:16.000
be best for that individual, and then I give

00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:20.440
it to them. So I've got some great companies

00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:22.760
that I use that I really trust and that I've

00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:25.639
used for a long time, and I've seen those products

00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:28.679
work time and time again, so I have a lot of

00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:31.869
confidence with those. So I just, I just keep

00:59:31.869 --> 00:59:34.670
stuff on my shelf, um, that I know is going to

00:59:34.670 --> 00:59:37.409
work. And then depending on the individual, then

00:59:37.409 --> 00:59:39.849
we are able to test to figure out, okay, which

00:59:39.849 --> 00:59:42.090
one of these options is going to be best. For

00:59:42.090 --> 00:59:45.510
example, um, with parasites, I probably have

00:59:45.510 --> 00:59:49.610
over, let's see, 10 to 13 different products

00:59:49.610 --> 00:59:53.469
in my office that can help kill parasites. But

00:59:53.469 --> 00:59:56.489
each product is really good, but it's all about

00:59:56.489 --> 00:59:59.719
discovering and understanding. Okay. which one

00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.500
is the best. And so I would say there's a few

01:00:02.500 --> 01:00:06.400
that I definitely lean on more than others and

01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:10.119
find to be more effective. But then again, some

01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:13.980
people's chemistry might respond better to this

01:00:13.980 --> 01:00:16.559
product versus this other one from this other

01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:19.940
company. And so does that answer your question?

01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:26.099
Yeah, yeah. I was wondering if you kind of facilitate

01:00:26.099 --> 01:00:28.579
that or is it just like then they have to go

01:00:28.579 --> 01:00:31.139
get a prescription from like an M .D. and then

01:00:31.139 --> 01:00:35.000
other other stops and things. But it sounds like.

01:00:36.380 --> 01:00:39.559
Yeah, you do all that legwork and your experiences

01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:42.539
allowed you to channel that and understand it,

01:00:42.539 --> 01:00:46.179
because that's another thing that's not well

01:00:46.179 --> 01:00:50.000
known is what you were just talking about there,

01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:53.260
like for an option. Yeah, exactly. It's true.

01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.519
I mean, if you hear something interesting, Ryan,

01:00:57.289 --> 01:00:59.530
Let's use an example that I just have seen in

01:00:59.530 --> 01:01:03.010
my office just in the last couple of weeks. Um,

01:01:03.010 --> 01:01:05.889
here in Utah, we have the mountains and there

01:01:05.889 --> 01:01:09.210
can be what's called an inversion where the smog

01:01:09.210 --> 01:01:12.530
and the nasty air quality can just settle. And

01:01:12.530 --> 01:01:15.590
it's really bad during the winter months. Um,

01:01:15.610 --> 01:01:17.710
but once a storm comes in, then it pushes that

01:01:17.710 --> 01:01:22.250
air out. Well, so when somebody has sniffles,

01:01:22.389 --> 01:01:26.710
congestion, sinus issues, um, cough, sore throat.

01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:29.559
And immediately, what's the first thing that

01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:32.639
we think of? We think, oh, there's probably a

01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:36.260
bacteria or a virus that's going around and causing

01:01:36.260 --> 01:01:39.059
these symptoms, right? So then what's the common

01:01:39.059 --> 01:01:41.159
thing that gets prescribed? Well, let's go get

01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:45.360
some antibiotics. Now, that might be the right

01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:48.599
thing for some people. But what's interesting

01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:50.800
is I've witnessed as some of these people have

01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:54.360
come in, those things, those antibiotics don't

01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:57.269
touch some of that. And why it's because the

01:01:57.269 --> 01:01:59.769
the air they're breathing in right now, the nasty

01:01:59.769 --> 01:02:02.670
chemicals that are just, you know, overloading

01:02:02.670 --> 01:02:05.610
our air quality. And it's definitely affecting

01:02:05.610 --> 01:02:09.730
the sinuses. It's affecting the, you know, the

01:02:09.730 --> 01:02:12.929
lungs and all this other stuff. And so I've been

01:02:12.929 --> 01:02:15.750
able to determine for a large quantity of people

01:02:15.750 --> 01:02:19.150
that chemical toxicity is the underlying reason

01:02:19.150 --> 01:02:21.469
why you're having the sniffles, the sore throat,

01:02:21.849 --> 01:02:25.239
the congestion. And so. If you have the right

01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:27.460
tool in place, then you're able to clear that

01:02:27.460 --> 01:02:30.539
stuff out. Um, but it's all about understanding,

01:02:30.820 --> 01:02:32.960
okay, what is the thing that's creating that

01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:36.079
stress? And so, so we have some tools again,

01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:39.659
um, for chemicals and chemical toxicity. I've

01:02:39.659 --> 01:02:42.440
probably got like one, two, three, four, five,

01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.860
six, seven, eight, nine, 10, like, yeah, nine

01:02:45.860 --> 01:02:47.800
or 10 different products that can help with that

01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:52.969
too. Um, so. So, uh, you know, Hopefully that

01:02:52.969 --> 01:02:56.650
kind of gives you some insight, um, as far as

01:02:56.650 --> 01:02:59.110
different, different ways we, we look at things

01:02:59.110 --> 01:03:02.170
and, and how, how it's important to, to have

01:03:02.170 --> 01:03:06.150
that open mind. Right. Yeah. A lot of people,

01:03:06.150 --> 01:03:09.530
yeah, we'll just instantly go to those antibiotic

01:03:09.530 --> 01:03:12.150
or something over the counter. And it's just

01:03:12.150 --> 01:03:16.989
like, okay. So what harm are doing? Yeah. Like

01:03:16.989 --> 01:03:20.110
a, like a, it could be a decongestant and that

01:03:20.110 --> 01:03:24.300
might help with the symptoms. But, you know,

01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:28.179
it and a lot of times it works and it does help

01:03:28.179 --> 01:03:31.000
people feel better, but there's still likely

01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.780
an underlying piece there that's still present.

01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.440
So and the accumulation over time, what's that

01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:40.539
going to look like, you know, long term? Yeah,

01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:44.019
yeah, because they think, oh, it works. And then

01:03:44.019 --> 01:03:45.880
that's their go to. And that's kind of what we're

01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.980
led to believe. Like, that's your option. Yeah.

01:03:49.830 --> 01:03:53.269
But yeah, so definitely definitely more options

01:03:53.269 --> 01:03:56.250
available than we sometimes consider like you

01:03:56.250 --> 01:04:00.610
were saying Yeah That's my biggest takeaway with

01:04:00.610 --> 01:04:03.050
talking to you today is like there's a lot more

01:04:03.050 --> 01:04:07.090
different options and there they seem to be Pretty

01:04:07.090 --> 01:04:10.730
spot -on and accurate with the root cause symptom,

01:04:10.889 --> 01:04:14.769
which I'm very much for So do you see clients

01:04:14.769 --> 01:04:20.130
or patients remotely? Yeah, so the way I've structured

01:04:20.130 --> 01:04:25.869
my work lately, so I've created a program, it's

01:04:25.869 --> 01:04:29.429
called Health Empowered Families. So if you go

01:04:29.429 --> 01:04:32.469
to healthempoweredfamilies .com, you can put

01:04:32.469 --> 01:04:35.769
in your name and information there, and you can,

01:04:36.570 --> 01:04:39.949
then it leads you to a free training that I created

01:04:39.949 --> 01:04:43.670
that specifically talks about the cellular healing.

01:04:44.139 --> 01:04:46.980
And then if that's something that interests you

01:04:46.980 --> 01:04:49.519
and you feel like potentially could be helpful,

01:04:50.219 --> 01:04:54.980
then you could set up a consultation. So once

01:04:54.980 --> 01:04:58.400
we get into the consultation, that's where we

01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:01.159
talk and we determine what are the biggest priorities

01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:04.539
for you and your child. And again, this is specifically

01:05:04.539 --> 01:05:06.679
designed for families with kids on the spectrum.

01:05:07.619 --> 01:05:11.139
And so I found that there was a lot of people

01:05:11.139 --> 01:05:13.769
that were reaching out and showing interest in

01:05:13.769 --> 01:05:16.989
coming to see me in my office here in Utah. But

01:05:16.989 --> 01:05:19.869
what I learned was, you know what? I've seen

01:05:19.869 --> 01:05:23.230
a pattern with a lot of these kids over time

01:05:23.230 --> 01:05:27.110
that if I can implement these few things and

01:05:27.110 --> 01:05:31.230
do it in this sequence, that it can put us in

01:05:31.230 --> 01:05:33.869
a position of having great outcomes for these

01:05:33.869 --> 01:05:37.570
kids. And so I basically structured a four phase

01:05:37.570 --> 01:05:41.289
program. And as we go through this process, it's

01:05:41.289 --> 01:05:44.349
fascinating where we go through it and I provide

01:05:44.349 --> 01:05:47.309
the resources for the families. Once they choose

01:05:47.309 --> 01:05:51.250
to engage with me, um, I mail those to them and

01:05:51.250 --> 01:05:54.130
then I coach them through it. And with, with

01:05:54.130 --> 01:05:56.150
the different patients, we might tweak things

01:05:56.150 --> 01:05:59.050
a little bit here or there, but I've got a pretty

01:05:59.050 --> 01:06:02.230
sound system that I've discovered. And then of

01:06:02.230 --> 01:06:04.909
course we fine tune and tweak and adapt as needed

01:06:04.909 --> 01:06:06.909
with each individual. Cause everyone's going

01:06:06.909 --> 01:06:10.380
to be a little different too. But it's been a

01:06:10.380 --> 01:06:12.699
fascinating thing. And so I've got clients from

01:06:12.699 --> 01:06:15.239
all over the country that I'm working with right

01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:18.679
now virtually. And the best way to engage with

01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:20.739
me would be through that healthempoweredfamilies

01:06:20.739 --> 01:06:25.579
.com website, where you can actually learn more

01:06:25.579 --> 01:06:28.860
about the cellular healing and understand if

01:06:28.860 --> 01:06:31.139
this is a path that makes sense. And if anything,

01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:34.489
just explore in the consultation. what we do

01:06:34.489 --> 01:06:37.309
the, you know, we have a pretty reasonable fee

01:06:37.309 --> 01:06:40.130
for the consultation. It's only if I want to

01:06:40.130 --> 01:06:42.130
remember, I think we just changed it, but it's

01:06:42.130 --> 01:06:44.989
like thirty seven dollars basically just to do

01:06:44.989 --> 01:06:49.110
the consultation. And so so that's an opportunity

01:06:49.110 --> 01:06:52.070
to gauge and then it's not the right fit for

01:06:52.070 --> 01:06:54.630
everyone. And that's OK. And so that's where

01:06:54.630 --> 01:06:57.750
you can explore those options in the consultation

01:06:57.750 --> 01:07:01.090
with me and to determine if it would make sense

01:07:01.090 --> 01:07:04.340
to. to do something and so that's how i'm working

01:07:04.340 --> 01:07:06.000
with a lot of families throughout the country

01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:09.079
at this time because i realize this is something

01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:11.960
that families with children on the spectrum i

01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:15.440
would say there's a more than enough availability

01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.699
to find good therapies where people live but

01:07:18.699 --> 01:07:22.579
when it comes to the cellular healing part what

01:07:22.579 --> 01:07:26.519
i've learned is it's a piece that's missing and

01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:30.360
it's an aspect that isn't getting addressed as

01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:33.219
as thoroughly as we would like. Now, you've probably

01:07:33.219 --> 01:07:36.300
heard of leukovorin and things like that, and

01:07:36.300 --> 01:07:38.880
that's a medication that can be really powerful

01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:41.280
and helpful, but it is something that I would

01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:45.260
say is providing a need where there may be a

01:07:45.260 --> 01:07:49.000
deficiency in the phalamic acid, one of the B

01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:52.360
vitamins, and that can really make a difference.

01:07:52.860 --> 01:07:56.019
However, at the same time, it seems to be incomplete.

01:07:56.250 --> 01:07:59.530
And so as I go through this four phases with

01:07:59.530 --> 01:08:02.349
families, we're able to really hone in on getting

01:08:02.349 --> 01:08:04.449
into some of more of those root cause things

01:08:04.449 --> 01:08:06.849
that can be creating that cellular inflammation.

01:08:07.329 --> 01:08:10.130
You can still continue to take some of those

01:08:10.130 --> 01:08:12.750
things that you're taking like leukovorin or

01:08:12.750 --> 01:08:16.750
other things that people naturally take. But

01:08:16.750 --> 01:08:20.069
we kind of fill in the gaps where a lot of times

01:08:20.069 --> 01:08:21.789
it seems like families, when I talk to them,

01:08:22.390 --> 01:08:26.020
they might have maybe tried one of the phases

01:08:26.020 --> 01:08:29.039
that I recommend, but not all four phases and,

01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:31.359
and where it's just how they all work together

01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:35.500
nicely. Um, so, so that would probably be the

01:08:35.500 --> 01:08:38.899
easiest and best way to engage. Um, and, and

01:08:38.899 --> 01:08:42.239
where I do, yes, work in fact with people, um,

01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:45.960
all over. So like just, uh, yesterday I was talking

01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:49.720
to a parent from, uh, the Kansas city area. Um,

01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.260
and then earlier this week it was a mom from

01:08:52.260 --> 01:08:55.420
California and then. Um, you know, so just all

01:08:55.420 --> 01:09:00.000
over. So. Okay. Great news. Yeah. I'll put those,

01:09:00.060 --> 01:09:03.939
uh, in the show notes too. Um, I have a couple

01:09:03.939 --> 01:09:06.180
of more questions, but they're not really practice

01:09:06.180 --> 01:09:10.439
related unless we haven't covered, um, some,

01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.119
if you want to mention something practice related

01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:18.380
before we kind of switched gears. Yeah. Um, covered.

01:09:19.140 --> 01:09:21.140
No, I feel like, uh, I feel like we've been able

01:09:21.140 --> 01:09:24.420
to touch on a lot of good things and. I think

01:09:24.420 --> 01:09:27.579
you've asked good questions and it's led me to

01:09:27.579 --> 01:09:30.340
share some good information. So yeah, I'm satisfied

01:09:30.340 --> 01:09:34.920
with what we're doing. Okay. So I'm going to

01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:38.460
at least ask one. Yeah. What is something you're

01:09:38.460 --> 01:09:44.300
most excited about recently? Let's see. Is that

01:09:44.300 --> 01:09:47.180
more on a professional note? It could be either.

01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:59.970
Okay. Yeah, I think Let's see, you know, it's...

01:09:59.970 --> 01:10:02.590
You know, it's the little wins. The little wins

01:10:02.590 --> 01:10:05.270
go a long way with families, with kids on the

01:10:05.270 --> 01:10:11.109
spectrum. For example, you know, something that

01:10:11.109 --> 01:10:16.449
one of these parents responded to me recently

01:10:16.449 --> 01:10:21.470
was that after starting the... the program with

01:10:21.470 --> 01:10:25.010
us, how her daughter slept through the night,

01:10:25.010 --> 01:10:27.729
you know, for the first time in a long time.

01:10:28.329 --> 01:10:31.869
And, you know, woke up really happy the next

01:10:31.869 --> 01:10:33.750
day, you know, I mean, little things like that,

01:10:33.750 --> 01:10:36.170
that really, that really gets me excited and

01:10:36.170 --> 01:10:41.430
makes me happy. I always love, you know, being

01:10:41.430 --> 01:10:47.210
able to witness just how individuals that we

01:10:47.210 --> 01:10:49.960
serve and that we work with where they they can

01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:53.739
see and feel and notice an impact, knowing that

01:10:53.739 --> 01:10:58.800
we're helping them find some hope and relief.

01:10:59.539 --> 01:11:02.319
And it doesn't come quick. I don't believe in

01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:04.840
quick fixes, especially when it comes to kids

01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:08.579
on the spectrum, but patience and persistence

01:11:08.579 --> 01:11:12.720
will pay off. So anyways, that's one thing I'm

01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:15.100
excited about. The other thing I'm excited about

01:11:15.100 --> 01:11:20.029
on a personal note is I love supporting my kids

01:11:20.029 --> 01:11:23.109
with their sports, and my daughter's playing

01:11:23.109 --> 01:11:25.729
on the high school basketball team, and that's

01:11:25.729 --> 01:11:28.750
been a fun experience for me. So when my other

01:11:28.750 --> 01:11:31.890
daughter is competitive in volleyball, and I've

01:11:31.890 --> 01:11:34.250
got another daughter that's competitive in pickleball,

01:11:35.189 --> 01:11:39.130
and another daughter that likes dance. So it's

01:11:39.130 --> 01:11:44.130
fun to be a part of my family's life. Life happens

01:11:44.130 --> 01:11:49.789
here. I'm glad you mentioned that the example

01:11:49.789 --> 01:11:52.149
with the sleeping through the night, because

01:11:52.149 --> 01:11:55.470
every autistic person has a problem with circadian

01:11:55.470 --> 01:11:59.829
rhythm. Yeah. It's underrated. It is. Yeah, those

01:11:59.829 --> 01:12:02.949
small wins are huge for the family with autism.

01:12:03.189 --> 01:12:08.149
Yeah, it is. It is big. Well, Dr. and I, I think

01:12:08.149 --> 01:12:12.250
maybe we'll just wrap it up there. Yeah, I think

01:12:12.250 --> 01:12:15.409
that's great. I'm so blessed that we had this

01:12:15.409 --> 01:12:18.600
conversation. Yeah, thanks, Ryan. Hope you have

01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:20.920
a great day. Yeah, you too. I appreciate your

01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:23.939
time and this opportunity and keep up the good

01:12:23.939 --> 01:12:25.779
work. You're you're doing some great things.

01:12:26.300 --> 01:12:28.899
Yeah, thanks. You too. Thank you so much. Very

01:12:28.899 --> 01:12:31.859
fascinating episode. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah,

01:12:31.859 --> 01:12:35.560
I really enjoyed it and just to think I can sense

01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:37.680
just the good man that you are. So so thank you

01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:41.220
for the opportunity. Yeah, same to you. Appreciate

01:12:41.220 --> 01:12:45.340
it. Awesome, Ryan. Well, God bless you and yeah.

01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:48.039
Maybe we'll maybe we'll cross paths again in

01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:50.520
the future. Hopefully. Yeah, we can sing a touch

01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:54.020
for sure. Okay, sounds good, man Okay, enjoy

01:12:54.020 --> 01:12:54.720
the rest of your day
