WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.100 I really, when I started, I wanted to create 00:00:03.100 --> 00:00:05.639 something that in and of itself was useful, not 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:09.140 a waste of people's time. And so I'm pretty selective 00:00:09.140 --> 00:00:11.380 and I want to make sure as much as possible. 00:00:11.500 --> 00:00:15.640 It's very high quality. It's very digestible. 00:00:15.980 --> 00:00:18.399 And it's not me just... pretending I have all 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:21.320 the answers, telling people what to do. So I'm 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:23.440 trying to strike that balance, hey, these are 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:25.879 perspectives, take it in. Much more about helping 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:27.839 a parent just get into a better decision -making 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:31.379 place than me saying which therapies I like or 00:00:31.379 --> 00:00:33.700 don't like or what they should do. And that's 00:00:33.700 --> 00:00:37.939 kind of a very fine line to walk. I think a lot 00:00:37.939 --> 00:00:40.960 of parents who are in my position, you want someone 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:42.859 to tell you what to do. And I'm trying to tell 00:00:42.859 --> 00:00:45.340 them, no, you don't want that, but you can get 00:00:45.340 --> 00:00:48.799 to a much better place. Where what makes sense 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:50.939 for your child as you're trying to parent do 00:00:50.939 --> 00:00:54.460 the best job you can you know it's about them. 00:00:55.299 --> 00:00:57.859 Getting that clarity and whatever people choose 00:00:57.859 --> 00:00:59.679 to do with anything that's totally up to them 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:03.840 i just would love to create. Dynamic help to 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.599 promote dynamic within the family that's not 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:10.780 as heavy not as stressful not you know and that's 00:01:10.780 --> 00:01:13.019 really about i guess the way i bottom line is 00:01:13.019 --> 00:01:15.719 about preventing unnecessary suffering for everyone. 00:01:16.060 --> 00:01:19.180 if you navigate a different way. Yeah, that's 00:01:19.180 --> 00:01:22.140 well said. And there's a lot of people in autism, 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:27.659 like the care, so -called care teams are constantly 00:01:27.659 --> 00:01:29.799 telling people what to do, what they need to 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:34.599 do, what they can't do. And I hate to say it, 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:37.920 but I question a lot of their training. So it 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:41.819 makes it kind of tough to understand what is 00:01:41.819 --> 00:01:43.930 right. And you know, you're in a high pressure 00:01:43.930 --> 00:01:47.010 situation there because something is wrong, obviously. 00:01:47.170 --> 00:01:49.129 Something is wrong. How do I make it better? 00:01:49.750 --> 00:01:52.390 Before we begin, I would like to share a couple 00:01:52.390 --> 00:01:55.790 of different products. The first one is Chroma, 00:01:56.010 --> 00:02:00.469 a device designed for humans. But I will have 00:02:00.469 --> 00:02:02.469 to tell you, yeah, you need to kind of act fast 00:02:02.469 --> 00:02:04.969 here because they're selling out a lot of products 00:02:04.969 --> 00:02:07.030 for the holiday seasons. They've ran a lot of 00:02:07.030 --> 00:02:11.169 good holiday deals. 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The Cogniti. 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:04.560 AI designed for the autistic phenotype. It delivers 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:07.379 different levels of social skills. It delivers 00:05:07.379 --> 00:05:10.279 different types of activities and understanding 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:14.240 for helping the autistic phenotype. And it was 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.899 created by Kate who designed it. She had this 00:05:17.899 --> 00:05:21.699 vision to help her brother. And she's very passionate 00:05:21.699 --> 00:05:24.300 about this. They're expanding out from Europe 00:05:24.300 --> 00:05:27.740 to the U .S. and They're hoping to make some 00:05:27.740 --> 00:05:30.300 good progress here. And it's, you can see up 00:05:30.300 --> 00:05:32.139 here, it's for clinics, schools, parents, and 00:05:32.139 --> 00:05:35.300 students. It's very useful for the autistic phenotype. 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.519 It's very easy to understand. And there's various 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.759 levels that you can navigate from beginning level 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:44.860 to more complex things like for adults with the, 00:05:44.860 --> 00:05:47.379 with the dating advice. And it just helps you 00:05:47.379 --> 00:05:50.040 run through different scenarios in life and talks 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:53.720 you through it. You can use autism for 10 % off 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:57.040 and you can cancel at any time. Would you mind 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:01.220 just starting and telling us about yourself even 00:06:01.220 --> 00:06:05.560 before becoming a parent and just what led you 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:11.319 into autism? Sure. Again, I think like most parents, 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:14.920 autism was something I was aware of before my 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:18.439 first son was born and I was really hoping to 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:23.139 avoid it. My wife and I had our first son and 00:06:23.139 --> 00:06:28.129 he was born. Um, everything was going great. 00:06:28.129 --> 00:06:31.269 You know, the issues with, uh, when he was born, 00:06:31.610 --> 00:06:34.269 perfect APCAR scores, his health seemed really 00:06:34.269 --> 00:06:37.230 good, but it was around, um, you know, around 00:06:37.230 --> 00:06:41.430 13 months is when things started really changing 00:06:41.430 --> 00:06:44.810 for him. So basically long story short, he was 00:06:44.810 --> 00:06:47.310 diagnosed eventually moderate borderline severe 00:06:47.310 --> 00:06:52.029 autism. And, um, you know, I think from my standpoint, 00:06:52.329 --> 00:06:57.529 it shifted everything and. I just knew that if 00:06:57.529 --> 00:07:01.029 I would have stayed the parent I was when he 00:07:01.029 --> 00:07:03.970 received that diagnosis, if I didn't make any 00:07:03.970 --> 00:07:07.589 shifts, I know for a fact he would not be the 00:07:07.589 --> 00:07:11.850 young man he is now. That's why, for me, it is 00:07:11.850 --> 00:07:14.850 about my son, which is why autism became relevant. 00:07:15.689 --> 00:07:19.269 I tend not even to use that term so much because 00:07:19.269 --> 00:07:23.430 it just is a label based on, if you check enough 00:07:23.430 --> 00:07:26.990 boxes, And I just really learned that effectively 00:07:26.990 --> 00:07:30.410 forgetting about the label every child has challenges 00:07:30.410 --> 00:07:33.550 and opportunities for growth and a parent's job 00:07:33.550 --> 00:07:36.689 to try to discern what's happening with their 00:07:36.689 --> 00:07:40.089 child and what might be useful so the high level 00:07:40.089 --> 00:07:43.560 summary with my son is he. compared to when he 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:45.660 was diagnosed with moderate borderline severe 00:07:45.660 --> 00:07:50.459 autism, he's wildly unrecognizable now. The child 00:07:50.459 --> 00:07:52.779 who lost his words and I really was convinced 00:07:52.779 --> 00:07:55.579 he would never speak. He does now talk more than 00:07:55.579 --> 00:07:59.379 anyone I know. He's a happy, joyful kid, a young 00:07:59.379 --> 00:08:03.160 man now. And I just know he would not be where 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.879 he is now if I didn't shift. If I stayed in the 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:09.500 parenting mode that I was in, how I was programmed, 00:08:10.139 --> 00:08:14.500 I think he... I don't think I know he would be 00:08:14.500 --> 00:08:17.639 much in a much different situation now. So again, 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:21.740 I'm very grateful for so much that's happened 00:08:21.740 --> 00:08:24.019 in my life, including that autism diagnosis, 00:08:24.100 --> 00:08:27.959 which was a wake up call to parent very differently 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:31.759 and to operate with much more acceptance, love 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.159 and determination. So I know I'm kind of broad 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:38.720 brushing it, but yes, I would not be doing this 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:42.409 work if it wasn't for the diagnosis. My son and 00:08:42.409 --> 00:08:45.289 i've spent you know basically sixteen years trying 00:08:45.289 --> 00:08:48.970 to figure out how to help parents respond in 00:08:48.970 --> 00:08:52.049 a much more powerful and effective way which 00:08:52.049 --> 00:08:54.029 doesn't mean throwing the kitchen sink at the 00:08:54.029 --> 00:08:57.409 child that just means shifting. How you're operating 00:08:57.409 --> 00:09:02.169 in a way that helps promote connection love acceptance 00:09:02.169 --> 00:09:06.669 and. If your child's dealing with medical issues 00:09:06.669 --> 00:09:09.710 and challenges and there's root causes that are 00:09:09.710 --> 00:09:12.769 going on, I think it's really useful for a parent 00:09:12.769 --> 00:09:15.389 to get clearer on what those root causes might 00:09:15.389 --> 00:09:18.450 be that manifest as something that people give 00:09:18.450 --> 00:09:21.710 a label to like autism. And if you channel your 00:09:21.710 --> 00:09:25.230 time, energy and money on those things, progress 00:09:25.230 --> 00:09:28.409 accelerates because it's very easy for you to 00:09:28.409 --> 00:09:31.970 take your time, energy especially and squander 00:09:31.970 --> 00:09:37.399 it as a parent. on worry, on being frustrated. 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.720 This can be a super challenging journey for many 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.980 parents. And while I honor the journey that anyone's 00:09:44.980 --> 00:09:47.620 on, and it's okay to feel whatever you feel, 00:09:48.460 --> 00:09:51.379 there is a way of navigating this journey that 00:09:51.379 --> 00:09:55.919 feels much better, that feels lighter, and there's 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:59.590 a way of channeling what you do have. into actions 00:09:59.590 --> 00:10:02.250 that actually move the needle in a positive way 00:10:02.250 --> 00:10:04.669 for your child, for yourself, for your family. 00:10:05.070 --> 00:10:08.350 And that's that's what I'm dedicated to doing. 00:10:09.590 --> 00:10:13.370 The use of lighter right there makes me think 00:10:13.370 --> 00:10:18.610 because a lot of parents seem restricted and 00:10:18.610 --> 00:10:22.470 like there's a definitely a lot of weight and 00:10:22.470 --> 00:10:27.029 kind of like maybe even just stuck. Waiting through 00:10:27.029 --> 00:10:30.210 my and so forth but i'm really fascinating on 00:10:30.210 --> 00:10:33.809 your little shift there because that's all internal 00:10:33.809 --> 00:10:36.350 like how did you come to the moment where you 00:10:36.350 --> 00:10:40.370 realize that you had to shift. Great great question 00:10:40.370 --> 00:10:44.470 and i would just say before i answer that. The 00:10:44.470 --> 00:10:47.269 weight that you mentioned that i mentioned what 00:10:47.269 --> 00:10:51.210 i know for sure is that that way is ninety nine 00:10:51.210 --> 00:10:54.279 percent self generated. In other words, the weight 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.559 is not what's happening to you, to your child. 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:02.399 It's all self -generated, which sucks that that's 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:04.799 the reality. Again, that's my opinion, but it's 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:08.399 also incredibly hopeful because if you're generating 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:13.840 it, hey, you can stop today. You can empty the 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:17.379 load or lighten that backpack today. Again, that's 00:11:17.379 --> 00:11:22.679 really where I focus my energy. It's the book 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:24.980 you have right in front of you or behind you 00:11:24.980 --> 00:11:29.340 by Carol Dweck mindset Yeah, the eight things 00:11:29.340 --> 00:11:32.279 and we can attach to those and it will just destroy 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:35.480 us. It's all right here No question. No question. 00:11:35.500 --> 00:11:37.080 And that's where mindset you hear it now and 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:38.960 it's almost cliche like people Oh, yeah positive 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.899 mindset all that but really I mean if your mindset 00:11:41.899 --> 00:11:47.080 is not Aligned to where you want to go Immediately 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:51.809 you're generating friction Full stop. So mindset's 00:11:51.809 --> 00:11:53.970 not just kind of a concept to kind of be aware 00:11:53.970 --> 00:11:56.889 of. You actually have to implement it. You have 00:11:56.889 --> 00:11:59.730 to truly adopt that growth mindset that she talks 00:11:59.730 --> 00:12:02.629 about in that book. And it's kind of scary because 00:12:02.629 --> 00:12:04.789 a growth mindset, ultimately, if you fast forward, 00:12:04.809 --> 00:12:07.429 what does that really mean? That means falling 00:12:07.429 --> 00:12:11.289 in love with making mistakes and being more than 00:12:11.289 --> 00:12:14.210 okay with that, seeing mistakes as a sign. That 00:12:14.210 --> 00:12:15.549 you're learning, you're growing, you're figuring 00:12:15.549 --> 00:12:18.029 out what doesn't work. And that's hard if you're, 00:12:18.029 --> 00:12:20.490 if you're parenting and you feel like the stakes 00:12:20.490 --> 00:12:22.889 are high and you can't mess this up for your 00:12:22.889 --> 00:12:26.210 child. The idea of making a mistake is, is beyond 00:12:26.210 --> 00:12:28.370 frightening, which is why most parents like I 00:12:28.370 --> 00:12:31.370 was at the time. I was just desperately wanting 00:12:31.370 --> 00:12:33.269 someone just tell me what, what, what to do. 00:12:33.350 --> 00:12:36.129 Right. I don't want, I don't want the baton. 00:12:36.169 --> 00:12:38.629 I don't want the ball. I'd rather you just tell 00:12:38.629 --> 00:12:40.929 me what to do and I'll implement, but I didn't 00:12:40.929 --> 00:12:44.429 want that responsibility. And that's where. You 00:12:44.429 --> 00:12:46.429 can't have that strategy because no one knows 00:12:46.429 --> 00:12:48.090 your child better than you. And you can have 00:12:48.090 --> 00:12:51.169 great advisors, medical doctors, functional medicine 00:12:51.169 --> 00:12:54.690 or maps type practitioners or therapists. I mean, 00:12:54.690 --> 00:12:56.590 there's a lot of people to have on your team, 00:12:56.809 --> 00:12:59.629 but nobody replaces you as the parent in terms 00:12:59.629 --> 00:13:01.269 of making great decisions. And you can't make 00:13:01.269 --> 00:13:03.470 great decisions if you're trapped in a fixed 00:13:03.470 --> 00:13:06.889 mindset. And none of us parents volunteer and 00:13:06.889 --> 00:13:09.169 say, yes, I'm going to switch into victim mentality. 00:13:09.850 --> 00:13:14.759 But we do. We do. And the key is Course correcting 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:16.700 rapidly because if you stay there, you can't 00:13:16.700 --> 00:13:19.200 help your child, you know, they need you to lead 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:21.779 They don't need you to have a pity party and 00:13:21.779 --> 00:13:26.000 and kind of you know kind of Staying stuck with 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:29.100 your own crap, you know, they need you to help 00:13:29.100 --> 00:13:31.460 lead the way and again, that's an opportunity 00:13:31.460 --> 00:13:36.379 for any parent Yes, well said that's that's very 00:13:36.379 --> 00:13:41.740 cool You had asked me though, what was the pivotal 00:13:41.740 --> 00:13:44.419 moment? I think so I'd like to I'd like to be 00:13:44.419 --> 00:13:47.940 mindful to answer your question And I can't say 00:13:47.940 --> 00:13:51.539 there was one Specific. I mean honestly my wife 00:13:51.539 --> 00:13:56.600 Cass and I early on we aligned with the concept 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:00.019 that We were going to do what it took to help 00:14:00.019 --> 00:14:04.039 our child even if that meant Inconvenient expensive 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:05.559 like we were gonna do what it takes and I think 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:08.919 so many parents have that posture We've just 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:11.860 had some really good influences early on, who 00:14:11.860 --> 00:14:13.720 helped us see things a little bit differently. 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:17.480 The way I always describe it is, if I parented 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:21.779 my son, Rye, the way I was parented, the way 00:14:21.779 --> 00:14:23.759 I was programmed to parent by what I experienced 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:25.559 as a child, what I saw my parents doing, and 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:28.480 hey, they weren't perfect, but they were phenomenal 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.149 parents. But they had a playbook, which many 00:14:31.149 --> 00:14:33.110 people in that generation had a playbook of how 00:14:33.110 --> 00:14:35.929 you were with your kids. If I took that crappy 00:14:35.929 --> 00:14:38.909 playbook and tried to apply that with my son, 00:14:39.990 --> 00:14:42.169 no way. There was no way that was going to work. 00:14:42.250 --> 00:14:44.169 It didn't mean my parents' playbook was bad. 00:14:45.049 --> 00:14:47.190 It may have been appropriate at the time, but 00:14:47.190 --> 00:14:49.330 right now I just knew for my son that would never 00:14:49.330 --> 00:14:53.909 work. So I think ultimately the shift for me 00:14:53.909 --> 00:14:57.889 came when I realized, as I mentioned before, 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.080 No one is coming. There's no practitioner that 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:02.500 we're gonna see who's gonna say, okay, here it 00:15:02.500 --> 00:15:06.360 is And so and I think my wife cast she stepped 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:08.539 into that knowledge earlier than I it took me 00:15:08.539 --> 00:15:13.559 longer because I really did feel like As as a 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:17.059 dad, you know Don't do anything. This will this 00:15:17.059 --> 00:15:20.539 will get better without us, you know going down 00:15:20.539 --> 00:15:24.139 rabbit holes I was very averse to you know, like 00:15:24.139 --> 00:15:27.120 I wasn't very curious Like I didn't want to do 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:28.700 the research. I didn't want to understand it 00:15:28.700 --> 00:15:30.200 better. I just wanted somebody to tell me what 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:34.179 to do. So there was a moment in there, um, that 00:15:34.179 --> 00:15:39.139 I realized, wait a second, me getting to a clearer 00:15:39.139 --> 00:15:41.580 place to make better decisions and being comfortable 00:15:41.580 --> 00:15:45.360 doing that is not optional, that that's essential. 00:15:45.500 --> 00:15:49.840 And so that helped me get into that, to raise 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:53.179 my hand, to get into that CEO role of the decision 00:15:53.179 --> 00:15:56.059 maker instead of looking for to hire some consultants 00:15:56.059 --> 00:15:57.740 to come in and tell me what to do, right? So 00:15:57.740 --> 00:16:01.200 that was the shift. And then the second big shift 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:05.940 is that I knew for myself how hard this felt 00:16:05.940 --> 00:16:10.240 in so many ways. And a lot of it comes down, 00:16:10.379 --> 00:16:13.519 for me, it came down to the beliefs I was holding, 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:18.059 right? And the subconscious stories I was telling 00:16:18.059 --> 00:16:22.110 myself. And that's a big part of how I help parents 00:16:22.110 --> 00:16:24.549 now, because it's these stories, these programs, 00:16:24.889 --> 00:16:27.149 which is different than mindset, by the way. 00:16:27.169 --> 00:16:29.950 Mindset's more your attitude, right? How you're 00:16:29.950 --> 00:16:32.610 approaching it. But your beliefs, that's the 00:16:32.610 --> 00:16:34.309 program, the programs that are running below 00:16:34.309 --> 00:16:36.190 the surface. And most people, especially me, 00:16:36.190 --> 00:16:39.129 I had no clue what my beliefs were. So becoming 00:16:39.129 --> 00:16:43.669 aware more of how I was programmed gave the opportunity 00:16:43.669 --> 00:16:45.909 for me to shift. And that's a big part of how 00:16:45.909 --> 00:16:49.639 I Support parents to reveal their beliefs. I 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:51.860 don't force them to change their beliefs But 00:16:51.860 --> 00:16:54.299 I help them go through a process where they get 00:16:54.299 --> 00:16:56.799 revealed because they're below the surface and 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:59.820 with that Parents can shift dramatically and 00:16:59.820 --> 00:17:02.419 that's what I mean when I say they can take a 00:17:02.419 --> 00:17:04.920 whole bunch of stuff out of their backpack immediately 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:08.339 that's weighing them down and It's within those 00:17:08.339 --> 00:17:11.140 that beliefs area that what moved the needle 00:17:11.140 --> 00:17:16.220 most for me was I had a belief that was playing 00:17:16.220 --> 00:17:19.019 that resulted in me getting frustrated with my 00:17:19.019 --> 00:17:22.380 son or really down on myself and ultimately that 00:17:22.380 --> 00:17:27.680 belief was That in some way I was a lousy parent. 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.200 I was failing my son So it was not a belief I 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.039 was holding about my son was a belief I was holding 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:35.299 about myself and so the shift for me that made 00:17:35.299 --> 00:17:39.720 the biggest difference is number one To recognize 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:42.500 i was being a great parent i was doing what i 00:17:42.500 --> 00:17:44.460 could i wasn't perfect but i was a great parent 00:17:44.460 --> 00:17:47.380 so i didn't and i didn't have to beat myself 00:17:47.380 --> 00:17:51.200 up. To motivate myself to become better like 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:54.039 i could continue to progress and become better 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:57.400 and better at parenting my son without beating 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:00.579 myself up because that was how i was adding weight 00:18:00.579 --> 00:18:05.000 to my own my own pack so i think that's that's 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:07.869 where the inflection point for me was. One, no 00:18:07.869 --> 00:18:11.450 one is coming. And two, I can become the parent 00:18:11.450 --> 00:18:13.690 I want to be the parent I think my son needs 00:18:13.690 --> 00:18:19.730 now. And I don't have to use negative self -talk 00:18:19.730 --> 00:18:24.589 or really like internally beat myself up to try 00:18:24.589 --> 00:18:27.390 to get me to a higher level. I could ascend to 00:18:27.390 --> 00:18:30.190 that higher level with kindness toward myself. 00:18:30.190 --> 00:18:32.569 And I feel like so many parents, a big part of 00:18:32.569 --> 00:18:35.549 the journey is their feelings about themselves. 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:39.240 that they experience negative feelings when they're 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:43.720 by themselves. It's those lonely times in the 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:46.559 journey that can feel the hardest. And again, 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.619 parents can do, they can change that rapidly. 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:54.779 Yeah, self -awareness is a big part of change, 00:18:54.779 --> 00:18:57.339 and I think it's the first step. It's self -awareness. 00:18:57.380 --> 00:18:59.400 You have to be aware of who you are, what you 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:02.440 are, and then self -acceptance. You have to accept 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:04.859 that, and then you can change. I like Carl Rogers 00:19:04.859 --> 00:19:08.420 for that. And I also like attitude and effort 00:19:08.420 --> 00:19:11.720 are mine, not anybody else's. They're mine. So 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.160 I get to control those two things. And essentially, 00:19:14.180 --> 00:19:16.579 that's all we can control is our attitude and 00:19:16.579 --> 00:19:19.140 our effort. That's the only things that we can 00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:24.119 control. The value part of being a parent and 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:27.539 seeing our child, that gives us a greater chance 00:19:27.539 --> 00:19:34.579 of kind of going down that path of that feeling. 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:38.779 Hopeless and helpless. I think value determines 00:19:38.779 --> 00:19:42.519 that so that is ought to be a good signal That 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:45.079 means it's valuable to you. It's important to 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:48.599 you. So how to fix it and let's go see Lynn and 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:53.559 how to fix it How old was your your your son 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.099 right at this point where you made that shift? 00:19:57.539 --> 00:20:01.000 Yeah, so he was diagnosed when he was 18 months 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:04.660 and we started, you know, I went to my first 00:20:04.750 --> 00:20:07.990 autism conference. My wife thought it was a good 00:20:07.990 --> 00:20:10.210 idea for me to go while she held Ford at home. 00:20:10.950 --> 00:20:13.329 I was at my first autism conference when he was 00:20:13.329 --> 00:20:18.569 around three. Then I would say the shifts in 00:20:18.569 --> 00:20:21.829 my mind, and at least personally for me, happened 00:20:21.829 --> 00:20:24.269 because I started getting educated, started seeing 00:20:24.269 --> 00:20:26.650 more possibilities of what was happening than 00:20:26.650 --> 00:20:29.769 if you stayed the conventional route. I would 00:20:29.769 --> 00:20:35.660 say when he was around five or six, is when, 00:20:36.180 --> 00:20:38.400 thanks to some of the people that we worked with 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:40.720 and some of the organizations, there are many, 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:43.900 too many to mention right now. I think that's 00:20:43.900 --> 00:20:46.799 where I got into this place where, wait a second, 00:20:46.819 --> 00:20:49.500 there is a better path. I'm gonna lighten my 00:20:49.500 --> 00:20:52.700 load now through a few key moves, the ones I 00:20:52.700 --> 00:20:55.279 mentioned. And so I think that was kind of my 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:57.579 inflection point, probably when my son was around 00:20:57.579 --> 00:21:02.230 five. But basically those first, you know, two 00:21:02.230 --> 00:21:06.509 or three years were hard, were chaotic. And who 00:21:06.509 --> 00:21:09.450 do you trust? What do you do? What's the next 00:21:09.450 --> 00:21:13.730 step? So I think there was a lot of chaos before 00:21:13.730 --> 00:21:16.970 at least I started feeling more momentum and 00:21:16.970 --> 00:21:21.630 more confidence in my ability to navigate and 00:21:21.630 --> 00:21:25.029 make great decisions. Confidence is a big word 00:21:25.029 --> 00:21:30.269 there. Yeah. Yeah. And false confidence doesn't 00:21:30.269 --> 00:21:33.140 work. You can't pretend. Yeah, you won't believe 00:21:33.140 --> 00:21:35.779 it. You'll eventually not believe it. Very transient 00:21:35.779 --> 00:21:42.799 type of thing there. That's incredible. So you 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:46.579 mentioned earlier that he's shifted from nonverbal 00:21:46.579 --> 00:21:48.960 to verbal. Can you tell us about that process? 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:55.559 Sure. Yeah. Now with him, he had a, like every 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:59.000 child, very unique set of things that were happening 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:05.910 for him. And from a language perspective, that 00:22:05.910 --> 00:22:09.829 took a while for that to turn around. But really 00:22:09.829 --> 00:22:15.150 for us, he had more obvious physical issues that 00:22:15.150 --> 00:22:17.930 were going on. He had huge GI issues that needed 00:22:17.930 --> 00:22:21.029 to be addressed. You know, it's interesting now 00:22:21.029 --> 00:22:24.329 when I talk about things, and I don't mean to 00:22:24.329 --> 00:22:28.170 discount or to sound arrogant, but for my son, 00:22:28.589 --> 00:22:33.470 The autism was a lesser problem compared to his 00:22:33.470 --> 00:22:37.349 life threatening allergies. So my son also, you 00:22:37.349 --> 00:22:40.410 know, he basically all around the same time, 00:22:40.430 --> 00:22:42.730 not only did we find out that or get the diagnosis 00:22:42.730 --> 00:22:45.329 that he was on the autism spectrum, but that's 00:22:45.329 --> 00:22:47.490 also around the time that we found out he has 00:22:47.490 --> 00:22:51.730 life threatening, severe allergies to peanuts 00:22:51.730 --> 00:22:56.079 and soy and high allergies to We and tree nuts 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:58.640 and all. I mean, the list goes on and on. Basically 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:02.279 what happened is his GI system was so wrecked 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:04.460 that he basically became allergic to anything 00:23:04.460 --> 00:23:09.240 that he ate. Oh, we had a lot of physical issues 00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:14.220 that we were trying to help him with. Um, so 00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:19.140 his lack of speech existed until those. Issues 00:23:19.140 --> 00:23:21.519 started to become addressed. So very much physically 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:25.000 he was unwell and once he started to improve 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:28.960 that's when we started to see speech reemerge 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:30.720 and You know, I don't know if you want to go 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:34.039 down this road or not, but basically for him 00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:37.160 we tried everything medically to help him with 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:41.680 his GI issues and Some things helped a little 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:43.619 bit, but he was on a liquid medical food for 00:23:43.619 --> 00:23:45.420 about a year and a half because he couldn't eat 00:23:45.420 --> 00:23:49.420 any regular foods. And nothing really helped 00:23:49.420 --> 00:23:52.599 with respect to that. And the thing that literally 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:55.279 changed his course, his trajectory overnight 00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:59.299 was homeopathy. So a modality that most people 00:23:59.299 --> 00:24:01.319 would think is nonsense. I totally thought it 00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:05.339 was nonsense, implausible, can't work. And homeopathy 00:24:05.339 --> 00:24:08.579 turned out to be an incredibly important piece. 00:24:08.940 --> 00:24:11.000 And again, that's something that my wife, Cass, 00:24:11.099 --> 00:24:14.420 was curious about, was kind of making the case 00:24:14.420 --> 00:24:17.559 for, and I dismissed it. And fortunately, I had 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:20.059 the good sense to say, OK, I'm going to not resist 00:24:20.059 --> 00:24:23.900 this. Let's try this. And there's no downside. 00:24:24.059 --> 00:24:27.940 And it could be a waste of time. But I was open 00:24:27.940 --> 00:24:30.180 enough and smart enough to at least not get in 00:24:30.180 --> 00:24:33.099 the way. And that changed everything for him. 00:24:34.019 --> 00:24:38.440 How did your wife learn about that? Well, she's 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:43.019 did she He responds and moves quick. So she was 00:24:43.019 --> 00:24:45.000 always she was looking at all kinds of different 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:48.039 options And you know even the autism conference 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:50.599 which was a defeat autism now conference back 00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:52.519 in the day That was the organization that was 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.140 moving And it wouldn't have been my idea to go 00:24:56.140 --> 00:24:57.859 to that conference I would have found some reason 00:24:57.859 --> 00:24:59.759 to be skeptical and say it's not gonna be worth 00:24:59.960 --> 00:25:03.660 worth the time, but she found out about that. 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:07.240 And again, I learned a lot there, including they 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:09.640 talked a bit about homeopathy there. But I think 00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:11.799 just in her research, she was just very thorough 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:16.240 and was more open and to the more energetic approaches. 00:25:16.819 --> 00:25:19.160 Again, I have more of an analytical mind, more 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:24.259 of a skeptical mind. And so it wouldn't have 00:25:24.259 --> 00:25:25.779 been something I would have thought, hey, this 00:25:25.779 --> 00:25:30.980 is worth pursuing. But I'm so glad we did. Yeah, 00:25:30.980 --> 00:25:34.859 it's incredible because that mother instinct, 00:25:36.019 --> 00:25:38.940 there's a lot to the mother instinct with the 00:25:38.940 --> 00:25:43.180 autistic child. No doubt. And it's funny because 00:25:43.180 --> 00:25:45.619 with the work that I now do one -on -one coaching 00:25:45.619 --> 00:25:48.559 and it's me coaching and I don't even like to 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:50.980 call it coaching because it's much more advisory 00:25:50.980 --> 00:25:53.660 because it's really about helping the parent 00:25:53.660 --> 00:25:58.390 rise. I do that. As a male, knowing that for 00:25:58.390 --> 00:26:00.730 the parents that I have the honor of walking 00:26:00.730 --> 00:26:05.430 alongside, the intuition of both parents is incredibly 00:26:05.430 --> 00:26:08.890 important, but especially the maternal intuition. 00:26:10.269 --> 00:26:13.309 You can't discount that. You can't bury that. 00:26:13.910 --> 00:26:18.029 And so I'm a big fan of helping mom or dad, but 00:26:18.029 --> 00:26:21.589 especially mom to walk into what I would call 00:26:21.589 --> 00:26:24.799 informed intuition. Because you know because 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.839 intuition is great, but sometimes intuition can 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.000 kind of for whatever reason be radically off 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:31.799 So I think that's where this awareness that you 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.859 mentioned earlier Stepping into a greater sense. 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.579 Here's what's going on in a detailed way with 00:26:37.579 --> 00:26:40.440 my child Here are the options here are the roads 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.000 we can go down and especially here are the root 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:46.880 causes that I think might be At play to focus 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.880 on if you get to that greater informed state 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:54.079 then it's like, okay now where do I sense is 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:56.160 the right area to focus on? And that's where 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.160 the intuition, particularly maternal intuition 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.259 comes into play. Whenever Cass and I would have 00:27:01.259 --> 00:27:04.460 a disagreement in terms of which road to go down, 00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:08.160 we would both make our case and had respectful 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:10.779 conversations. But if there was a tie, the tie 00:27:10.779 --> 00:27:13.079 went to the maternal intuition, not the paternal 00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:20.150 intuition. Well done, man. Well said. I, maybe 00:27:20.150 --> 00:27:22.670 I shouldn't assume, but that comes from experience. 00:27:26.089 --> 00:27:34.410 That's so freaking fun. How was your son going 00:27:34.410 --> 00:27:37.410 through school and so forth? And how were you 00:27:37.410 --> 00:27:40.950 as a parent during the school years, like especially 00:27:40.950 --> 00:27:45.829 early on elementary and so forth? Yeah, our road 00:27:45.829 --> 00:27:49.349 was a little bit unique, you know, he Early on, 00:27:50.789 --> 00:27:53.490 we did a home -based program for him when he 00:27:53.490 --> 00:27:56.630 was younger, like around five. We did the Sunrise 00:27:56.630 --> 00:27:59.910 program, which is one that some people may be 00:27:59.910 --> 00:28:01.269 aware of, but it's basically a child -centered 00:28:01.269 --> 00:28:03.589 program and it's home -based, so he wasn't at 00:28:03.589 --> 00:28:08.549 a school. But then we moved into more of a private 00:28:08.549 --> 00:28:11.470 school, like a community -type environment that 00:28:11.470 --> 00:28:15.589 was much smaller class size and really a good 00:28:15.589 --> 00:28:19.180 fit for him. And then by the time he turned got 00:28:19.180 --> 00:28:21.420 to fifth grade, the town we were living at the 00:28:21.420 --> 00:28:24.440 time had a dynamite public school with really 00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:27.500 great teachers at that grade level. And I mean, 00:28:27.579 --> 00:28:30.480 I honestly never thought my son would be in a 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.339 public school. Like, I didn't think that that 00:28:32.339 --> 00:28:35.420 was I wanted that. That was actually what I I 00:28:35.420 --> 00:28:37.900 early on. That was my goal. I'm like, if he could 00:28:37.900 --> 00:28:41.420 be in a public school with no support victory, 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.960 right? Mission accomplished. And that happened 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.579 in fifth grade. He went to fifth grade and had 00:28:48.579 --> 00:28:51.420 a phenomenal year. And again, it was because 00:28:51.420 --> 00:28:55.660 it was a fit. The school was the right teachers, 00:28:55.859 --> 00:28:58.539 right environment. And he thrived in elementary 00:28:58.539 --> 00:29:01.759 school for a couple of years. And at that point, 00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:04.200 he was ready for it. He had the skills to do 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.000 that. And that's because we spent a lot of time. 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:10.539 Early on with the home program and also helping 00:29:10.539 --> 00:29:14.099 him to learn the skills that he needed to be 00:29:14.099 --> 00:29:17.019 successful in that type of environment. So it 00:29:17.019 --> 00:29:19.559 wasn't just the schools taught him and we did 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:21.440 nothing at home. We were doing a lot at home 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.380 to help him learn what he needs to learn to be 00:29:23.380 --> 00:29:25.700 successful. because I didn't want him just to 00:29:25.700 --> 00:29:28.599 be in a public school, but then have all kinds 00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.779 of scaffolding around him. I wanted it to be 00:29:30.779 --> 00:29:33.579 a fit where he was able to navigate on his own. 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.079 And fortunately, he was. And that was an incredible 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:39.859 experience for him for a couple of years. And 00:29:39.859 --> 00:29:42.279 then after that, he then progressed more to a 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.299 home to different community schools, like which 00:29:45.299 --> 00:29:47.720 are basically public schools, but with a different 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.480 philosophy that we have in our state. And now 00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:52.880 he's 18 and just finishing his last year of high 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.119 school of high school. And for the last few years, 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:57.099 he's been in more of a homeschool environment 00:29:57.099 --> 00:29:59.980 with a teacher that's got a relatively smaller 00:29:59.980 --> 00:30:02.400 class size and different grades, you know, kind 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.480 of in one place, which is a much better fit for 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:09.339 how he learns. Now, that's an incredible story. 00:30:12.460 --> 00:30:15.680 Circling back to the speech, him developing speech, 00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:20.180 was it just based off of the? Settling all those 00:30:20.180 --> 00:30:23.299 more life -threatening problems and then you 00:30:23.299 --> 00:30:28.180 could work on certain interventions or Did we 00:30:28.180 --> 00:30:32.619 capture what helped him speech come about or 00:30:32.619 --> 00:30:36.680 no? Well, I think what I was inferring is that 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:41.690 as his body became more Functioning the way it 00:30:41.690 --> 00:30:43.890 was meant to because he was literally failure 00:30:43.890 --> 00:30:46.829 to thrive nothing was working so developmental 00:30:46.829 --> 00:30:50.990 issues were hugely impacted by his physical health 00:30:50.990 --> 00:30:54.630 issues so i think once his body started to get. 00:30:55.450 --> 00:30:58.250 More regulated right and more and more operating 00:30:58.250 --> 00:31:00.849 the way it was designed to which again medicine 00:31:00.849 --> 00:31:04.269 didn't work conventional medicine didn't work 00:31:04.269 --> 00:31:07.849 but an energetic approach like homeopathy literally 00:31:07.849 --> 00:31:11.009 heat. he transformed the next day. He started 00:31:11.009 --> 00:31:16.109 his upward progression. I think as then his body 00:31:16.109 --> 00:31:19.670 got stronger, then yes, he was able to do many 00:31:19.670 --> 00:31:22.049 more things, including the speech started to 00:31:22.049 --> 00:31:24.710 slowly return. Now, clearly he was doing speech 00:31:24.710 --> 00:31:27.950 therapy and doing a number of things at the time, 00:31:28.289 --> 00:31:31.269 but I guess the life -threatening allergy piece 00:31:31.269 --> 00:31:33.650 of it, which is still an issue, by the way, but 00:31:33.650 --> 00:31:37.029 that forced our hand to take food seriously. 00:31:37.430 --> 00:31:40.369 So to feed him nourishing food that doesn't have 00:31:40.369 --> 00:31:43.589 poisons and toxins in it, and that meet the needs 00:31:43.589 --> 00:31:46.210 that he has, that he uniquely had from a nutritional 00:31:46.210 --> 00:31:50.130 standpoint, focusing on food, prioritizing quality 00:31:50.130 --> 00:31:53.710 food, non -toxic food. That was a huge part of 00:31:53.710 --> 00:31:58.329 him having the building blocks to progress in 00:31:58.329 --> 00:32:01.170 all kinds of areas, including communication and 00:32:01.170 --> 00:32:06.710 speech. Okay. Nicely done. Nicely said too. Yeah. 00:32:07.069 --> 00:32:12.269 I've noticed a little theme and you go root cause 00:32:12.269 --> 00:32:15.509 or upstream. I think about going upstream to 00:32:15.509 --> 00:32:18.730 see how these things are being kind of highly 00:32:18.730 --> 00:32:21.470 manifest because we'd like to treat that. We 00:32:21.470 --> 00:32:23.769 like to treat downstream, but we don't ever talk 00:32:23.769 --> 00:32:26.990 about the root cause. And I think that's missed. 00:32:27.970 --> 00:32:30.849 And you elegantly said that a couple of different 00:32:30.849 --> 00:32:33.680 times. I just want to thank you for that. Yeah, 00:32:33.779 --> 00:32:37.059 I thank you for for identifying that and that 00:32:37.059 --> 00:32:40.039 really to bottom line this, I mean that I don't 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:41.319 want to call this a game, but let's just say 00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.920 it's a game. It's a game for parents to figure 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:47.619 out ultimately what decisions make sense and 00:32:47.619 --> 00:32:53.000 the powerful strategy is to have a root cause 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.000 approach, to be obsessed with identity. That 00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.059 doesn't mean you can't address symptoms. Of course 00:32:58.059 --> 00:33:00.480 you can. You can do therapies. You can do supplement, 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.789 you know, whatever the case may be. But to really 00:33:03.789 --> 00:33:07.250 have a very educated guess on what are the few, 00:33:07.329 --> 00:33:10.230 not the 20, but the few root causes that are 00:33:10.230 --> 00:33:13.210 relevant for my child, why they're exhibiting 00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:15.839 and presenting the way they are. That is how 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.480 you accelerate progress. And that's again, that 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.099 goes back to my prior career, where especially 00:33:21.099 --> 00:33:23.519 when my son was diagnosed, I was working in New 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.519 York City for the behemoth banks. I was kind 00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:31.220 of a CPA, a controller, a CFO. And then ultimately 00:33:31.220 --> 00:33:35.079 these banks, because it was merger after merger, 00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:40.480 ultimately these banks were horribly functioning. 00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.970 Like the processes at these banks, were horrible 00:33:43.970 --> 00:33:46.369 because it was just these different organizations 00:33:46.369 --> 00:33:48.750 put together with paper clips and rubber bands. 00:33:49.329 --> 00:33:51.849 So I shifted from a more of a financial type 00:33:51.849 --> 00:33:56.430 role to fixing the broken processes that were 00:33:56.430 --> 00:33:58.349 preventing the company from running well. So 00:33:58.349 --> 00:34:00.450 ultimately I wound up getting certified as a 00:34:00.450 --> 00:34:03.089 Six Sigma master black belt. Somebody who's really 00:34:03.089 --> 00:34:06.170 good at re -engineering processes at these dysfunctional 00:34:06.170 --> 00:34:10.670 organizations and basically creating processes 00:34:10.670 --> 00:34:14.179 that yield. No defects. So it's ironic that at 00:34:14.179 --> 00:34:17.780 the time I got the diagnosis for my son, my job 00:34:17.780 --> 00:34:20.940 was to help banks run better and to have processes 00:34:20.940 --> 00:34:23.780 that didn't result in defects. And here I get 00:34:23.780 --> 00:34:25.820 the diagnosis for my son, which was basically 00:34:25.820 --> 00:34:29.099 a seven page letter that said your son is defective. 00:34:29.099 --> 00:34:32.239 And so it was hard to hear. And that's where 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.019 I kind of got into fix it mode, which also doesn't 00:34:36.019 --> 00:34:38.039 work in terms of trying to fix your child. Right. 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:41.059 It's all about meeting your child's needs. But 00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:44.239 But that but what I learned in my corporate career 00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:47.280 and what I was doing was all about how do you 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.099 re engineer how these These companies operate 00:34:51.099 --> 00:34:53.860 and I'm taking that expertise and now I'm pointing 00:34:53.860 --> 00:34:57.039 it directly at parents Because we all show up 00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.500 with a certain capacity for good decision -making 00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:02.579 But our processes for how we take an information 00:35:02.579 --> 00:35:04.840 how we analyze it and then decide what to do 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.980 with it I know I didn't have a really good process 00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:11.659 for that I stayed stuck and again, wanted other 00:35:11.659 --> 00:35:13.880 people to make those decisions for me. And so 00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.900 that's why I feel like this is a huge unsolved 00:35:16.900 --> 00:35:18.699 problem that most people don't even know they 00:35:18.699 --> 00:35:22.300 have, that their ability to take what's going 00:35:22.300 --> 00:35:24.400 on and then to ultimately have a plan they feel 00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.860 good about and to execute it well. I feel like 00:35:27.860 --> 00:35:30.099 every parent has an opportunity to improve that. 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.719 And that's where everything I do is focused on 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.199 that transformation of the parent as being the 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.079 greatest intervention they can do for their child. 00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:42.099 It's a good fit. It's a good trait, like your 00:35:42.099 --> 00:35:45.719 analytic in mind. It's putting it to better use, 00:35:45.739 --> 00:35:49.039 that's for sure. It absolutely is. And not to 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.519 say that the professional role isn't useful too, 00:35:52.579 --> 00:35:54.820 but like there's something different about like 00:35:54.820 --> 00:35:57.480 serving humanity and especially serving our children. 00:35:58.179 --> 00:36:01.719 That is life. That's where life happens. And 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:04.059 you're doing a wonderful job of that. It's this. 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.719 It's fun to listen to you convey that out and 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.400 just the beauty behind it and the passion is 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:20.559 very, very nice to see. At what point did you 00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:24.619 think about the podcast? Could you just walk 00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:28.000 us through the moment you started to even just 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.480 think about it and then the process of beginning 00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.300 the podcast? Because it's very successful, I 00:36:34.300 --> 00:36:39.090 think. episode from 277 came up today, is that 00:36:39.090 --> 00:36:43.090 correct? Yeah, I think it may be 286 might be 00:36:43.090 --> 00:36:46.289 today. And yeah, it's been a labor. It's been 00:36:46.289 --> 00:36:48.710 a labor of love. And I guess the origin of it, 00:36:49.809 --> 00:36:52.429 probably months after my son was diagnosed is 00:36:52.429 --> 00:36:56.949 when I was just very frustrated that there weren't 00:36:56.949 --> 00:37:01.570 really any great resources. to help parents and 00:37:01.570 --> 00:37:04.369 uh and i and i knew especially when things were 00:37:04.369 --> 00:37:07.630 the hardest for my son. I didn't have time for 00:37:07.630 --> 00:37:09.730 anything like i wouldn't have had time to sign 00:37:09.730 --> 00:37:12.750 up for coaching are you kidding like you know 00:37:12.750 --> 00:37:17.630 there's no way and but in all the chaos i was 00:37:17.630 --> 00:37:20.230 doing research my wife was doing research online 00:37:20.230 --> 00:37:24.230 and that's great but i just felt parents needed 00:37:24.230 --> 00:37:28.679 something. To to be able to hear and that would 00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.380 help them in a positive way And it had to be 00:37:31.380 --> 00:37:34.059 easy for them to digest and that's where no matter 00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:36.900 how chaotic my life got I could always put on 00:37:36.900 --> 00:37:38.860 a pair of headphones and listen to something 00:37:38.860 --> 00:37:43.280 so the podcast the audio Medium itself for me 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:46.219 was the strongest which is why even to this day 00:37:46.219 --> 00:37:49.400 every episode I have having guests on I have 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:51.780 a full video of it, but I never created the YouTube 00:37:51.780 --> 00:37:54.099 channel I never I don't put those videos out 00:37:54.099 --> 00:37:57.380 there. It's still mainly an audio medium And 00:37:57.380 --> 00:37:59.440 at some point maybe I will but otherwise I think 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.500 it's the easiest to take in information And again, 00:38:03.500 --> 00:38:06.340 I wanted something that parents can listen to 00:38:06.670 --> 00:38:11.469 and walk away not more dysregulated, right? Like 00:38:11.469 --> 00:38:14.329 to walk away with more insight, more understanding, 00:38:14.389 --> 00:38:16.650 more ways of how they can apply it in a positive 00:38:16.650 --> 00:38:19.190 way. And sometimes I have guests on who talk 00:38:19.190 --> 00:38:23.010 about an option, maybe that isn't a fit. And 00:38:23.010 --> 00:38:24.849 that's where I tell parents, listen, listen, 00:38:24.989 --> 00:38:27.030 you don't have to do everything that every guest. 00:38:27.730 --> 00:38:30.710 Who comes on says I mean they make the case but 00:38:30.710 --> 00:38:33.210 you decide and it's okay, you know I think being 00:38:33.210 --> 00:38:36.670 regulated as a parent me me to me means being 00:38:36.670 --> 00:38:39.150 really clear that you know what you're doing 00:38:39.150 --> 00:38:41.809 why you're doing it and you feel good about it 00:38:41.809 --> 00:38:44.889 and Especially you're okay with all the much 00:38:44.889 --> 00:38:47.420 longer list of things that you're not doing You 00:38:47.420 --> 00:38:49.380 need to be feeling good about what you're doing 00:38:49.380 --> 00:38:51.780 and what you're not doing, at least for my nervous 00:38:51.780 --> 00:38:55.099 system to calm down. That's a big part of what 00:38:55.099 --> 00:38:59.519 I like to help parents get to. The podcast itself, 00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:03.599 I just felt like that was the best way of taking 00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:07.300 what my wife and I were learning and sharing 00:39:07.300 --> 00:39:10.099 that so that people can have these insights, 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.960 have the knowledge of this very different way 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:18.630 of navigating the journey. Earlier and it shouldn't 00:39:18.630 --> 00:39:20.949 take everyone does it a dozen years like it did 00:39:20.949 --> 00:39:23.349 me to kind of figure this out We wanted to make 00:39:23.349 --> 00:39:26.230 sure people had that information earlier. And 00:39:26.230 --> 00:39:29.750 again, it's all about How they're navigating 00:39:29.750 --> 00:39:32.789 and making decisions it's not because there's 00:39:32.789 --> 00:39:34.590 no right or wrong about what you do for your 00:39:34.590 --> 00:39:38.949 child But in my opinion, I say respectfully there 00:39:38.949 --> 00:39:41.900 is a right and a wrong way of how you navigate. 00:39:42.019 --> 00:39:43.980 There's a way of navigating that creates the 00:39:43.980 --> 00:39:46.320 friction that we talked about earlier, and that 00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.099 just keeps adding weight to your backpack, which 00:39:49.099 --> 00:39:52.880 can only lead to burnout in some form or another. 00:39:53.420 --> 00:39:55.559 And as a way of navigating, again, that just 00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.139 feels lighter, that enables you to course correct 00:39:59.139 --> 00:40:02.099 quicker, and to, again, constantly figure out 00:40:02.099 --> 00:40:05.599 ways of modifying how you are. so that you can 00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.659 make better and better decisions for your child. 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:09.880 And that is absolutely possible. So that's where 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.000 I think how you navigate, to me, is more important 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.940 than what you do. You got to get that how figured 00:40:15.940 --> 00:40:18.519 out first, and then you're off to the races to 00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:21.019 figure out what makes, what are the best moves 00:40:21.019 --> 00:40:25.360 for you and your family and your child. Yeah, 00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:27.940 neuroscience, that's noise. All that other stuff 00:40:27.940 --> 00:40:31.360 is noise. And then signal is what you're sending 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:33.880 your spotlight of attention to, and that's... 00:40:34.059 --> 00:40:37.900 crucial here. Yeah. And it goes back to the attitude 00:40:37.900 --> 00:40:41.320 and effort thing. It's like, your attitude, your 00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:45.239 attention has to be on that goal, not what you 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:47.719 could have done. Not those other possibilities. 00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:50.880 Right. Maybe those will come in to play later, 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.800 but not right now. Yeah. Thanks for correcting 00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:58.099 me too on the episode 286. Because I remember, 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:02.059 I think 277 was with Tristan from Daylight. And 00:41:02.059 --> 00:41:06.780 that's why stuck with me. Yeah, Tristan is fantastic. 00:41:07.139 --> 00:41:10.159 And your last two episodes were about EMF. So 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:15.760 that's an unseen and very harmful kind of phenomenon 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.739 that we're navigating as humans right now, is 00:41:18.739 --> 00:41:21.739 the EMFs. Again, it may be lost on some people 00:41:21.739 --> 00:41:24.019 why EMFs, how they entered a picture. I know 00:41:24.019 --> 00:41:29.260 it's not lost on you. But again, for a parent, 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:32.559 In a house with a child with complex challenges, 00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:37.119 a big part of how you can navigate better is 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.019 by playing better defense against stressors, 00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.179 particularly in the house. And EMFs are just 00:41:42.179 --> 00:41:47.219 a huge one without a doubt that is behind a lot 00:41:47.219 --> 00:41:49.940 of the dysregulated behavior, at least a contributing 00:41:49.940 --> 00:41:54.079 factor. So again, here, knowledge of what's going 00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.820 on in your home is really important. And then 00:41:57.820 --> 00:42:00.780 doing something about it And some of the actions, 00:42:00.980 --> 00:42:02.659 most of the actions that you can take to play 00:42:02.659 --> 00:42:05.420 better defense don't cost anything. They're free. 00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.599 They're easy. Sure, you can spend a lot of money 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.440 and go full throttle, but it's just about playing 00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:16.300 not perfect defense, but better defense. Whether 00:42:16.300 --> 00:42:19.380 we're talking about EMFs or mold in the house 00:42:19.380 --> 00:42:22.860 or chemicals and other toxins, that's a key part 00:42:22.860 --> 00:42:25.599 of it. The key part is curating an environment 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.849 that allows for everyone in your family to thrive, 00:42:28.989 --> 00:42:33.329 including yourself. Yeah. Humans, we'd love to 00:42:33.329 --> 00:42:35.670 make sense of things that we can see and understand. 00:42:35.789 --> 00:42:39.710 We can't see these EMFs all around our environment, 00:42:39.969 --> 00:42:43.590 but they are harmful. And just like unplugging 00:42:43.590 --> 00:42:46.130 the Wi -Fi is going to be something that people 00:42:46.130 --> 00:42:50.150 can do and it's a success. You might not see 00:42:50.150 --> 00:42:53.809 the benefits of it. I think eventually you will 00:42:53.809 --> 00:42:58.219 with just the way we are. like with our mood 00:42:58.219 --> 00:43:01.179 and our energy and so forth. But it's just simple 00:43:01.179 --> 00:43:04.539 steps like that can help like create this bigger 00:43:04.539 --> 00:43:07.239 picture and, you know, create momentum because 00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.420 we're closing a loop. We're doing something progressive 00:43:09.420 --> 00:43:14.699 or productive. And the EMF is just, you know, 00:43:14.739 --> 00:43:17.500 it's just complicates because we can't see it. 00:43:17.500 --> 00:43:19.800 It's not like we burn our hand and it's like, 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.360 OK, I can't put my hand in fire anymore because 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.519 my hands burn. I felt it. It's not like that 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:30.190 at all. There's some great data on EMF too, which 00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:34.510 is unknown Which is uh, I want to ask you about 00:43:34.510 --> 00:43:38.190 unless you wanted to follow up with the EMF I 00:43:38.190 --> 00:43:40.289 just wanted to say one thing about EMF and then 00:43:40.289 --> 00:43:42.610 I definitely would love for you to ask the question 00:43:42.610 --> 00:43:46.769 you're about to ask with the EMFs There's some 00:43:46.769 --> 00:43:50.250 confusion in terms of like why it matters. It's 00:43:50.250 --> 00:43:53.570 Not likely that EMFs Let's say are the root cause 00:43:53.570 --> 00:43:55.530 of what's happening with your child if you have 00:43:55.530 --> 00:43:57.769 you're trying to dial in What's at the root now 00:43:57.769 --> 00:43:59.670 for some kids, it might be for my son, it may 00:43:59.670 --> 00:44:02.690 be because I had that wireless, you know, uh, 00:44:02.690 --> 00:44:05.489 digital television monitor when he was born right 00:44:05.489 --> 00:44:08.050 off of his crib. And that thing was exerting 00:44:08.050 --> 00:44:10.829 a lot. So he was getting a lot of stress, but, 00:44:10.969 --> 00:44:13.550 but it's unlikely. I think that EMF exposure 00:44:13.550 --> 00:44:16.489 might be a root cause that's relevant for why 00:44:16.489 --> 00:44:18.929 your child's presenting the way they are. It 00:44:18.929 --> 00:44:21.849 could be, but the key way of looking at EMS right 00:44:21.849 --> 00:44:24.010 now is it, maybe it's not a top root cause of 00:44:24.010 --> 00:44:27.119 what's happening with your child. that started 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.679 everything, but it very well might be a root 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.280 cause of why your child doesn't make more progress 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.599 now, if they're in an environment that is creating 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:39.800 just a much more stressful environment that's 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.159 just gonna dysregulate their nervous system more. 00:44:42.659 --> 00:44:45.380 So that's a way of looking at EMFs, not necessarily 00:44:45.380 --> 00:44:48.300 a root cause of going back to why your child 00:44:48.300 --> 00:44:50.980 has the diagnosis they have, but very well can 00:44:50.980 --> 00:44:54.179 be a root cause of why progress. is slow or why 00:44:54.179 --> 00:44:57.179 everyone's staying stuck. And just from my work 00:44:57.179 --> 00:45:01.659 with parents, it's crazy how often the highest 00:45:01.659 --> 00:45:05.719 EMF exposures are in the bedroom where that child 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.440 particularly is sleeping. So when we use meters 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.719 and test the environment, other rooms, the parents' 00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.960 bedroom, other kids, their levels of exposure 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.480 in that room are always lower. then the child 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:22.760 who's got these issues. And again, once parents 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:25.659 take some measures to reduce that, behaviors 00:45:25.659 --> 00:45:28.320 improve, sleep improves, and there's nothing 00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.840 more important than sleep in terms of how do 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.119 you help anyone become the best that they can 00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:37.199 be. Yeah, these EMFs are on the electromagnetic 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:43.760 field, the microwave level, and it goes back 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:47.900 to, you know, we surround our babies with these 00:45:47.900 --> 00:45:53.309 devices. So we can monitor them, and it's an 00:45:53.309 --> 00:45:58.150 attempt to protect them and allow us to have 00:45:58.150 --> 00:46:01.750 better access to them to eliminate dangers. But 00:46:01.750 --> 00:46:04.869 these EMFs, like you mentioned, that's a good 00:46:04.869 --> 00:46:08.510 example of that monitor, too, because I anticipate 00:46:08.510 --> 00:46:13.610 those are very popular. But these EMFs are destroying 00:46:13.610 --> 00:46:17.630 cells. And with autism, things like cells and 00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:21.960 the EMS dehydrate cells and myelination, they 00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:28.159 destroyed lipid. And so this EMF exposure could 00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:31.239 cancel out things that you're doing and cancel 00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.599 out the natural development, like what your son 00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:38.239 had. Yep, 100 % that myelination is important. 00:46:38.300 --> 00:46:39.840 We could have an entire episode just talking 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:42.500 about this topic, but it's not conjecture. I 00:46:42.500 --> 00:46:46.119 mean, the research has been done. Professor Dr. 00:46:46.260 --> 00:46:48.500 Paul is the one who did the pioneering research 00:46:48.500 --> 00:46:51.420 probably I think about five years ago that demonstrated 00:46:51.420 --> 00:46:54.280 how electromagnetic fields particularly how do 00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:58.320 they Impact cells as you said right and it ultimately 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.599 is about these voltage gated calcium channels 00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.539 within the cell and the EMF exposure allows an 00:47:05.539 --> 00:47:07.840 excess amount of calcium to get into the cell 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:11.139 and then that creates oxidative stress and How 00:47:11.139 --> 00:47:13.579 does that oxidative stress manifest? How do you 00:47:13.579 --> 00:47:16.190 see it? Well, you very well may see it in the 00:47:16.190 --> 00:47:19.369 behaviors and symptoms that we label as ADHD 00:47:19.369 --> 00:47:23.690 or autism or Parkinson's or Alzheimer's. Again, 00:47:24.150 --> 00:47:26.730 every person's going to, that oxidative stress 00:47:26.730 --> 00:47:29.489 is not going to manifest differently. So it's 00:47:29.489 --> 00:47:32.769 a very, it's not conjecture. There's a lot here 00:47:32.769 --> 00:47:35.269 and that's why we can't avoid it. Right? We live 00:47:35.269 --> 00:47:37.349 in an environment. There's natural EMFs. There's 00:47:37.349 --> 00:47:39.710 a lot of man -made. It's just about playing better 00:47:39.710 --> 00:47:43.510 defense. And you can significantly minimize without, 00:47:43.510 --> 00:47:46.710 you know, moving off the grid. You can minimize 00:47:46.710 --> 00:47:48.630 exposure. And again, if a parent's going to do 00:47:48.630 --> 00:47:51.190 anything here, just make sure the sleeping environment 00:47:51.190 --> 00:47:55.610 is protected. Yeah, Mercola. Your book, EMF, 00:47:55.610 --> 00:48:01.070 right behind you, he's excellent on that. You 00:48:01.070 --> 00:48:05.219 had CC on. I've never heard of CC, but, you know, 00:48:05.300 --> 00:48:08.019 I'd listened and she is one of the few people 00:48:08.019 --> 00:48:12.840 that I've heard mention going away with section 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:18.340 704. And that was a big thing. John Coats of 00:48:18.340 --> 00:48:21.500 RF safe is huge on this too. He's dedicated his 00:48:21.500 --> 00:48:27.849 life for this exposure. And this 704 is. It's 00:48:27.849 --> 00:48:30.690 significant. I mean, it's protection. It's almost 00:48:30.690 --> 00:48:35.670 like, to me, the VAX safety of 1986, but different 00:48:35.670 --> 00:48:38.230 context. It's just providing protection because 00:48:38.230 --> 00:48:45.849 it's known of the potential harms. So... I guess 00:48:45.849 --> 00:48:50.550 maybe what I would want to ask is... How can 00:48:50.550 --> 00:48:54.550 we bring 704 out to the public knowledge? Do 00:48:54.550 --> 00:48:57.190 you have any ideas on how to bring that into 00:48:57.190 --> 00:49:00.250 awareness more? Yeah, well, the episode with 00:49:00.250 --> 00:49:02.469 Cece, she talks about it. I mean, it really comes 00:49:02.469 --> 00:49:07.670 down to getting informed. Go to that website. 00:49:07.829 --> 00:49:13.369 I think it's 704nomore .org. And again, it comes 00:49:13.369 --> 00:49:17.070 down to an individual parent. If you feel like 00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.940 You get educated and this is an issue. It's all 00:49:19.940 --> 00:49:22.260 about spreading the word, talking to your school, 00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:27.119 talking to decision makers, government officials. 00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:30.179 Again, nobody wants to know this is true. Nobody 00:49:30.179 --> 00:49:33.460 wants this. Again, this is a hard area because 00:49:33.460 --> 00:49:36.940 it's so inconvenient and nobody wants to be judged 00:49:36.940 --> 00:49:40.519 as over reactive or a lunatic. But again, there's 00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:45.210 real science on this. there's real science in 00:49:45.210 --> 00:49:46.489 both of the areas you mentioned, whether it's 00:49:46.489 --> 00:49:48.769 a vaccine schedule or whether it's EMF exposure 00:49:48.769 --> 00:49:54.969 or other potential toxins in there. It's easy 00:49:54.969 --> 00:49:58.230 to be judged as being over reactive. But the 00:49:58.230 --> 00:50:02.090 key is to get informed, to share this information. 00:50:02.510 --> 00:50:07.650 And a lot of it, particularly schools, I think 00:50:07.650 --> 00:50:11.050 are becoming more open. Because I know with my 00:50:11.050 --> 00:50:14.610 son's school, I tried to make the case to them, 00:50:14.989 --> 00:50:19.110 and this was the public school. I tried to make 00:50:19.110 --> 00:50:22.750 the case to them about the importance of the 00:50:22.750 --> 00:50:26.869 wifi routers in the classrooms, which were everywhere. 00:50:28.349 --> 00:50:31.929 And even something like solar panels on the roof 00:50:31.929 --> 00:50:35.250 of these schools. A lot of these schools have, 00:50:35.750 --> 00:50:39.469 all classes are wired for wifi, so huge amounts 00:50:39.469 --> 00:50:43.309 of wireless, radio frequencies, which is radiation. 00:50:44.090 --> 00:50:46.090 So you have that going on. Sometimes they have 00:50:46.090 --> 00:50:48.150 the solar panels on the roof, which generate 00:50:48.150 --> 00:50:50.250 a huge amount of dirty electricity, which is 00:50:50.250 --> 00:50:54.130 the worst of all four EMF types. And then a lot 00:50:54.130 --> 00:50:58.489 of them also now have the towers, the 5G, not 00:50:58.489 --> 00:51:01.090 only the towers, but they're smaller. They're 00:51:01.090 --> 00:51:02.809 placing them on schools. They're placing them 00:51:02.809 --> 00:51:05.510 on churches. And again, we'd like to think that 00:51:05.510 --> 00:51:08.110 this stuff's invisible and therefore it doesn't 00:51:08.110 --> 00:51:10.639 harm. But all you need to do is have the right 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:12.420 meter. And you can see we're not talking about 00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:14.880 just slightly high levels. We're talking about 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:18.280 exponentially in which Dr. Mercola talks a lot 00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:22.400 about in that book. And so I do think parents 00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:25.059 getting informed. In trying to educate schools, 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:26.820 local government officials, I think initially 00:51:26.820 --> 00:51:28.639 there's a lot of resistance because nobody wants 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:30.059 to admit there's a problem because that means 00:51:30.059 --> 00:51:32.099 they have to do something about it. And maybe 00:51:32.099 --> 00:51:33.519 they want to do something about it, but they 00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:35.300 just may not have the funding to do it. So it's 00:51:35.300 --> 00:51:38.079 better to pretend there's no problem. But no, 00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:40.320 I think it's a word of mouth and it's pointing 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:42.679 people to sources of information where they can 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:44.420 look at the science themselves and look at the 00:51:44.420 --> 00:51:47.260 research. And again, you have to recognize there's 00:51:47.260 --> 00:51:49.679 a problem in order for you ever even to remotely. 00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:52.820 Start to do something about it. So it's that 00:51:52.820 --> 00:51:55.920 awareness. That's that's that's a super important, 00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:59.699 which is why groups like 704 no more .org or 00:51:59.699 --> 00:52:05.360 indispensable. Yeah, okay. Not only the like 00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.380 the Wi Fi connections and the cell towers and 00:52:08.380 --> 00:52:11.059 you can see cell towers and communication towers 00:52:11.059 --> 00:52:13.460 right by schools now and it's very concerning, 00:52:13.460 --> 00:52:17.820 but. They're getting Chromebooks things like. 00:52:18.300 --> 00:52:21.639 tech devices, and that's very harmful as well. 00:52:22.699 --> 00:52:25.079 So to backtrack a little bit, something a parent 00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:29.579 can do is just not have the tech devices on for 00:52:29.579 --> 00:52:32.699 the children, because children are more vulnerable 00:52:32.699 --> 00:52:35.480 to that. I mean, it just the blue light goes 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:40.800 through the skull much more for the infant, the 00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:43.940 younger child. And that's something that you 00:52:43.940 --> 00:52:49.110 can do. That's zero cost and very helpful. But 00:52:49.110 --> 00:52:54.769 Google has a patent on screens, monitors, destroying 00:52:54.769 --> 00:52:57.289 this human central nervous system on humans. 00:52:57.809 --> 00:53:00.650 This is public information. You can Google this. 00:53:00.670 --> 00:53:04.190 I'll put it in the show notes, but they know 00:53:04.190 --> 00:53:09.670 about it and nothing is done. It's very concerning. 00:53:11.250 --> 00:53:15.389 No doubt. No doubt. It's, yeah, as you said, 00:53:15.510 --> 00:53:18.869 there's easy things you can do. to maybe hard 00:53:18.869 --> 00:53:20.849 wire something that's wireless, turning the wireless 00:53:20.849 --> 00:53:24.349 off. All this stuff is inconvenient. Bottom line, 00:53:24.550 --> 00:53:28.590 Ryan, I've learned from all the parents I've 00:53:28.590 --> 00:53:32.570 coached that parents have a lot of fears. Things 00:53:32.570 --> 00:53:35.110 they're worried about, judgments from other people. 00:53:35.730 --> 00:53:37.889 We can go down a list of things that people are 00:53:37.889 --> 00:53:41.750 fearful of, but honestly, the top thing I think 00:53:41.750 --> 00:53:44.650 most parents are fearful of is inconvenience. 00:53:46.420 --> 00:53:48.860 We've gotten so used to things being quick and 00:53:48.860 --> 00:53:51.679 easy that wait, this is gonna take some Some 00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:53.400 steps that I need to take I don't want to do 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:56.519 that or hard conversations And I say that with 00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:58.820 respect because nobody was allergic to as allergic 00:53:58.820 --> 00:54:01.079 to inconvenience as I was right I wanted everything 00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:04.119 to be convenient but all they all the moves that 00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.500 we made for our son they were all inconvenient 00:54:07.500 --> 00:54:13.050 and and I'm glad that I Got over the resistance 00:54:13.050 --> 00:54:16.190 to so i think of parents can embrace inconvenience 00:54:16.190 --> 00:54:19.489 at least to some extent it'll open up so much 00:54:19.489 --> 00:54:22.150 more for them and anything you're doing with 00:54:22.150 --> 00:54:24.469 respect to minimizing EMS if you turn the router 00:54:24.469 --> 00:54:26.869 off at night that's inconvenient you takes it 00:54:26.869 --> 00:54:28.670 takes effort you can put out a timer so it's 00:54:28.670 --> 00:54:31.210 not that difficult but if you're hardwiring a 00:54:31.210 --> 00:54:34.369 laptop or chromebook instead of using wifi takes 00:54:34.369 --> 00:54:36.929 a few extra steps but it is so worth it especially 00:54:36.929 --> 00:54:40.750 if you can see through the measurement how much 00:54:40.940 --> 00:54:44.460 less is coming at your child and you're 100 % 00:54:44.460 --> 00:54:47.599 right. Children developing and growing brains, 00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:50.920 much more susceptible to harm from this than 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.159 us as adults. Doesn't mean it's still not hurting 00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:57.179 us in many ways we don't feel perhaps, but particularly 00:54:57.179 --> 00:55:00.420 for a child playing better defense is key. And 00:55:00.420 --> 00:55:04.239 one key thing I do want to highlight though is 00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:05.820 you're right that you wouldn't want to be living 00:55:05.820 --> 00:55:09.760 in a house with a huge tower, right? A cell tower, 00:55:09.940 --> 00:55:12.469 you know, You're close to it. Like if you can 00:55:12.469 --> 00:55:13.849 see it from your house, okay, that's probably 00:55:13.849 --> 00:55:16.309 a flag that says, maybe this isn't the right 00:55:16.309 --> 00:55:18.230 neighborhood to live in this or the right house. 00:55:18.889 --> 00:55:21.829 But I would say that cell tower, even if it's 00:55:21.829 --> 00:55:25.909 close, is nothing compared to what you're generating 00:55:25.909 --> 00:55:29.070 inside your house with your own router. So if 00:55:29.070 --> 00:55:31.889 you measure the impact from that distant cell 00:55:31.889 --> 00:55:34.239 tower versus what you're doing in house. you 00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.940 can't compare which is why within the house is 00:55:36.940 --> 00:55:39.639 the key to take control over and again there's 00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:42.659 super easy simple things you can do to play better 00:55:42.659 --> 00:55:46.079 defense and everyone in the house will will benefit 00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:49.300 particularly sleep sleep will get sleep will 00:55:49.300 --> 00:55:52.460 become more restorative higher quality and that 00:55:52.460 --> 00:55:55.380 alone is going to translate into you feeling 00:55:55.380 --> 00:55:58.139 better as the parent your child feeling more 00:55:58.139 --> 00:56:03.130 regulated perhaps less behaviors more focus Quality 00:56:03.130 --> 00:56:05.070 sleep, there's nothing more magical than that. 00:56:05.110 --> 00:56:07.949 So that's where playing better defense in the 00:56:07.949 --> 00:56:10.610 sleeping environment here with respect to EMFs 00:56:10.610 --> 00:56:12.949 is something, in my opinion, it's a must do move 00:56:12.949 --> 00:56:16.030 and not that much effort and huge returns day 00:56:16.030 --> 00:56:20.570 after day. Yeah. And it's not a parent problem. 00:56:21.030 --> 00:56:24.070 We're in no way saying like the parent is not 00:56:24.070 --> 00:56:27.150 putting in effort or is being bad. That's a human 00:56:27.150 --> 00:56:30.449 nature thing with that inconvenience. very human 00:56:30.449 --> 00:56:33.070 nature and it's across the board. It's universal. 00:56:33.630 --> 00:56:36.369 Humans like the convenience. The whole role of 00:56:36.369 --> 00:56:40.570 the brain is to just respond. It doesn't like 00:56:40.570 --> 00:56:43.630 to work either. That's why change is hard and 00:56:43.630 --> 00:56:47.070 that's why this so -called inconvenience has 00:56:47.070 --> 00:56:49.650 that friction that you mentioned earlier. This 00:56:49.650 --> 00:56:51.969 is the design of the central nervous system. 00:56:53.150 --> 00:56:55.889 I love how you parsed out too with these other 00:56:55.889 --> 00:56:59.980 conditions because if we just zoom out, and look 00:56:59.980 --> 00:57:02.940 over the last 50 years, like with the dementias 00:57:02.940 --> 00:57:06.860 and the heart diseases, heart attacks, the autism, 00:57:07.059 --> 00:57:09.900 the ADHD, you know, all of these things are just 00:57:09.900 --> 00:57:15.119 manifesting from, sure, some environmental insults, 00:57:15.340 --> 00:57:19.039 but or mostly environmental, environmental insults, 00:57:19.099 --> 00:57:23.059 but they all kind of find or follow the same 00:57:23.059 --> 00:57:27.980 trend. And, you know, it's very telling. That 00:57:27.980 --> 00:57:31.920 our environment is no good and in large part 00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:34.840 is some of those EMFs and then like the vac schedule 00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:38.699 to that humans kind of injected into other people 00:57:38.699 --> 00:57:42.039 So I want to ask you about because you mentioned 00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:44.960 this a couple of times. How do you go about parsing 00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:50.000 out? Let's say research because we can basically 00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:53.960 find research. It says anything now How do you 00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:58.780 parse out? fact from Things that are just like 00:57:58.780 --> 00:58:03.639 false or maybe bought jeopardized so forth Yeah, 00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:06.099 I mean the discernment on what research to believe 00:58:06.099 --> 00:58:08.239 in what not that is that's a bit tricky right 00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:11.500 and that's where again I think the guidance from 00:58:11.500 --> 00:58:14.239 advisors around you who maybe have gotten to 00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:16.199 a place where they can help you discern that 00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:18.719 right so the right medical practitioner or researcher 00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:22.679 so You can go to PubMed and yeah, there's a lot 00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:25.159 of information, but you got to look at who authored 00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:28.090 the study was it funded by the pharmaceutical 00:58:28.090 --> 00:58:31.289 industry or not. So again, to try to find, you 00:58:31.289 --> 00:58:33.969 know, really in the truly independent, meaningful 00:58:33.969 --> 00:58:37.190 research, that can be challenging. And I'll be 00:58:37.190 --> 00:58:39.750 honest, I didn't spend hours and hours doing 00:58:39.750 --> 00:58:43.610 that research. So I have relied on opinions of 00:58:43.610 --> 00:58:45.670 people who I respect who I know don't have an 00:58:45.670 --> 00:58:49.170 agenda. You know, and so again, and everything 00:58:49.170 --> 00:58:53.469 that I personally do. It's always from the standpoint 00:58:53.469 --> 00:58:55.769 of root cause root cause root cause. What does 00:58:55.769 --> 00:58:57.949 the research say with respect to root cause? 00:58:58.289 --> 00:59:00.190 And I'd be lying to you if I said, okay, hey, 00:59:00.190 --> 00:59:02.989 I know the root cause of autism had been idiotic 00:59:02.989 --> 00:59:05.510 thing for anyone to say, but you know, I could 00:59:05.510 --> 00:59:08.449 never say that to you. But what I can say is 00:59:08.449 --> 00:59:12.110 that, Hey, there's some very, um, likely suspects 00:59:12.110 --> 00:59:15.530 that, uh, that we can point to to say this, there 00:59:15.530 --> 00:59:18.429 may be something here in terms of what is driving 00:59:18.429 --> 00:59:22.610 the autism epidemic. And translating into that 00:59:22.610 --> 00:59:24.489 and again we don't have to talk about any of 00:59:24.489 --> 00:59:27.030 them. I'll just I'll just spitball a whole bunch 00:59:27.030 --> 00:59:31.050 of real strong candidates right so we we do have 00:59:31.050 --> 00:59:34.610 things like EMF exposure and how much more that 00:59:34.610 --> 00:59:37.269 is particularly if you go back to the inflection 00:59:37.269 --> 00:59:39.289 point you know when things really started to 00:59:39.289 --> 00:59:43.469 turn the EMF exposure that our kids are susceptible. 00:59:44.610 --> 00:59:47.989 Huge. The chemicals and pesticides and all the 00:59:47.989 --> 00:59:50.210 toxins in the air that are in the cord blood 00:59:50.210 --> 00:59:53.429 you know of these children is massive so you 00:59:53.429 --> 00:59:56.030 can just look at as a root cause the whole chemical 00:59:56.030 --> 00:59:59.050 onslaught how much toxic you know like these 00:59:59.050 --> 01:00:01.969 kids are born with their cup already the toxin 01:00:01.969 --> 01:00:04.760 cup already pretty. filled. So you can look and 01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:08.000 say that's a cause. You can look at the vaccine 01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.440 schedule in terms of metals or whatever the case 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:12.300 may be. You can look at that. You can look at 01:00:12.300 --> 01:00:15.320 glyphosate in terms of the glyphosate and how 01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:17.900 insidious that is, how that wrecks the gut health. 01:00:18.420 --> 01:00:20.360 And so I could keep going on and on. There's 01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.039 a lot of things that you can point to that say, 01:00:23.059 --> 01:00:25.199 hey, that might be a big contributing root cause 01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:27.519 to how different the environment is now. And 01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:30.400 I think as a parent, it's just about you understanding 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.860 those factors. And again, getting tuned in with, 01:00:34.019 --> 01:00:36.400 hey, well, what's relevant for my child? Let 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:39.420 me try to focus on that root cause. Like Dr. 01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:42.400 William Parker was on the podcast a couple months 01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:44.800 ago before the big announcement from HHS about 01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.659 Tylenol. And, you know, he's 100 % convinced 01:00:47.659 --> 01:00:51.360 that Tylenol, you know, consumption, particularly 01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:54.780 by the mother, you know, during pregnancy, he's 01:00:54.780 --> 01:00:56.960 convinced that's a massive, and he doesn't think 01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:58.840 that's a contributing factor. He feels like that's 01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:01.690 really a key root cause. And then, of course, 01:01:01.750 --> 01:01:03.750 if that's true, the question is, well, what do 01:01:03.750 --> 01:01:05.469 we do about it? Well, there's ways that you can 01:01:05.469 --> 01:01:09.570 support your child if that did contribute to 01:01:09.570 --> 01:01:13.230 toxicity and is in some way a root cause for 01:01:13.230 --> 01:01:15.130 what's going on with your child. But again, every 01:01:15.130 --> 01:01:18.329 parent can look at their unique situation and 01:01:18.329 --> 01:01:21.409 say, hey, I feel like these root causes are contributing 01:01:21.409 --> 01:01:25.289 factors. Now, let me come up with a plan to take 01:01:25.289 --> 01:01:28.070 actions that might help with that knowledge that 01:01:28.070 --> 01:01:31.219 that might be at the root of why my child is 01:01:31.219 --> 01:01:35.260 where they are right now. Yeah, okay. Well said. 01:01:35.860 --> 01:01:40.280 Again, because there are so much. Those those 01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:44.519 topics, though, are very, yeah, prevalent or, 01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:47.820 yeah, it's like the spotlight there, those things 01:01:47.820 --> 01:01:50.360 that you mentioned, especially with that title. 01:01:51.659 --> 01:01:58.460 Yeah, the backs. Do you have you had any podcast 01:01:58.460 --> 01:02:01.769 episodes about the vaccines or no? Oh sure if 01:02:01.769 --> 01:02:04.489 you look at look you look at my podcast uh ratings 01:02:04.489 --> 01:02:09.150 uh the you know the from one to five stars uh 01:02:09.150 --> 01:02:12.630 all the non -five star ones are people who are 01:02:12.630 --> 01:02:14.829 screaming and yelling that we have an anti -vaxxer 01:02:14.829 --> 01:02:17.829 on the uh on the podcast so no we don't love 01:02:17.829 --> 01:02:20.670 the labels i'd love the labels anti -vaxxer it's 01:02:20.670 --> 01:02:23.260 like what does that mean And I don't know what 01:02:23.260 --> 01:02:26.219 that means. And even like one episode that guest 01:02:26.219 --> 01:02:28.380 didn't even talk about vaccines, but just because 01:02:28.380 --> 01:02:30.800 they were on and they were known as a. And I 01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:32.639 think that that's shifting now where people are 01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:34.780 aware, hey, listen, there's something here. There's 01:02:34.780 --> 01:02:36.539 vaccines are playing some role. And, you know, 01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:39.039 we're maybe now doing the research thanks to 01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:41.159 R .F .K. Junior to really see, hey, what, what, 01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.679 what role are they playing? How is it? Again, 01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:45.519 nobody knows anything with any certainty. The 01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.619 key is to do the science and let the science 01:02:47.619 --> 01:02:50.400 truly speak to do objective science, you know, 01:02:50.420 --> 01:02:52.960 and have an organization, a government organization 01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:55.619 that that does that work. That's not captured. 01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:58.219 So I think there's so many positive things in 01:02:58.219 --> 01:03:02.739 terms of what we might truly learn. So, so, yeah, 01:03:02.739 --> 01:03:06.639 so I think, yeah, I'll just leave it at that. 01:03:07.260 --> 01:03:10.340 OK, yeah, it's for some reason so sensitive, 01:03:10.340 --> 01:03:13.079 but I think people get brainwashed. Because, 01:03:13.219 --> 01:03:15.800 you know, the centralized controllers, the people 01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.800 that make the profit also control the narrative. 01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:22.059 They also control the direction of the research. 01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:24.579 It's like, it's too much. It's just too much. 01:03:24.739 --> 01:03:27.400 They control too much. And those narratives, 01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:29.639 because, you know, we've talked about how humans, 01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:33.179 we like to believe things and make it easier 01:03:33.179 --> 01:03:36.019 for us. And this is like repetition. So that 01:03:36.019 --> 01:03:39.420 just becomes the norm. And it's like, it's a 01:03:39.420 --> 01:03:44.989 very covert way of establishing friction amongst 01:03:44.989 --> 01:03:53.429 each other on our level. And that just distracts 01:03:53.429 --> 01:03:55.849 problems. Yeah, but in answer to your question, 01:03:55.989 --> 01:03:59.570 I've had some phenomenal guests, again, who don't 01:03:59.570 --> 01:04:02.230 come on the show proclaiming that vaccinations 01:04:02.230 --> 01:04:05.469 are horrible. They just say, hey, here is what's 01:04:05.469 --> 01:04:07.690 known, here's what's not known. So people like 01:04:07.690 --> 01:04:11.190 Dr. Christiane Northrup has been on and hit this 01:04:11.190 --> 01:04:15.070 topic. Dr. Peter McCullough, who's quite even 01:04:15.070 --> 01:04:19.449 more outspoken and doing incredible work. And 01:04:19.449 --> 01:04:21.969 again, they're just sharing their perspective. 01:04:22.030 --> 01:04:24.650 And this is for parents just, again, to get educated, 01:04:24.789 --> 01:04:27.050 get educated on the case for or the case against, 01:04:28.070 --> 01:04:31.070 but ultimately, you know, to make informed consent 01:04:31.070 --> 01:04:33.630 and a good educated choice about what's right 01:04:33.630 --> 01:04:35.949 for their child. And that's why, even though 01:04:35.949 --> 01:04:38.889 I've had these people on and for my son, personally, 01:04:39.550 --> 01:04:41.989 you know, he would, when he was diagnosed and 01:04:41.989 --> 01:04:44.449 his health was really horrible. Um, you know, 01:04:44.610 --> 01:04:47.869 his, his prac, his pediatrician gave a medical 01:04:47.869 --> 01:04:50.449 exemption from vaccines because it was so clear 01:04:50.449 --> 01:04:53.510 how, uh, particularly the MMR vaccine didn't 01:04:53.510 --> 01:04:55.690 work as intended for him. Basically measled mumps 01:04:55.690 --> 01:04:58.429 and rubella set up shop in his body. And so we 01:04:58.429 --> 01:05:00.269 had the documented evidence now would be very 01:05:00.269 --> 01:05:03.019 hard. for that same pediatrician to give a medical 01:05:03.019 --> 01:05:05.760 exemption today. It was easier back then when 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:11.360 we experienced it. But yeah, so I think with 01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:17.980 respect to vaccination and my son, that was clearly 01:05:17.980 --> 01:05:20.420 a piece of what was happening for him. And I 01:05:20.420 --> 01:05:22.679 think for anyone listening, the question is, 01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:25.019 what's relevant for your child? Because just 01:05:25.019 --> 01:05:27.219 because I've had people on my podcast who happen 01:05:27.219 --> 01:05:31.230 to be skeptical or wanting more research, Again, 01:05:31.250 --> 01:05:34.429 when I coach parents, I don't advise them on 01:05:34.429 --> 01:05:36.230 whether to vaccinate or not. I just want them 01:05:36.230 --> 01:05:39.630 to get into the clearest position to decide what 01:05:39.630 --> 01:05:41.730 makes sense for your child. Doesn't have anything 01:05:41.730 --> 01:05:45.230 to do with what I would prefer. And so I frustrate 01:05:45.230 --> 01:05:47.070 clients a lot because I keep saying, you don't 01:05:47.070 --> 01:05:48.969 want to hear what I would do. Like, I want to 01:05:48.969 --> 01:05:51.449 help you get clear on what you choose to do. 01:05:52.269 --> 01:05:54.670 And so whether that's with the vaccine schedule 01:05:54.670 --> 01:06:00.179 or even medication, you know, my son, medication 01:06:00.179 --> 01:06:04.079 didn't work for him. And so we tried it and it 01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:07.320 just wasn't a fit, his body. And there are some 01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:09.480 people who are very adamant against medication. 01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:13.719 My goal is for a parent to get in a clearer place 01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:15.460 and decide, does that make sense for them? And 01:06:15.460 --> 01:06:17.639 again, what I would do in that situation is irrelevant. 01:06:18.219 --> 01:06:20.880 I want them just to make an aligned decision 01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:23.079 based on what's going on with their child and 01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:25.360 what their values are and what they're wanting. 01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:29.150 That's the key. It's all about the parent. making 01:06:29.150 --> 01:06:33.309 decisions about what they choose to do, not me 01:06:33.309 --> 01:06:35.349 trying to direct them or influence them in any 01:06:35.349 --> 01:06:40.289 particular way. Yeah, that oxidative stress that 01:06:40.289 --> 01:06:43.530 you mentioned too is something that not only 01:06:43.530 --> 01:06:48.949 people in autism need to become aware of or research, 01:06:49.289 --> 01:06:51.869 but everybody because that, you know, that's 01:06:51.869 --> 01:06:56.349 really involved in the neurocognitive phenomena 01:06:56.349 --> 01:07:00.440 that we're. We're approaching two, you know, 01:07:00.539 --> 01:07:02.420 because it's like younger and younger. People 01:07:02.420 --> 01:07:05.079 with getting diagnosed with dementia, younger 01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:07.039 and younger. People are having heart attacks, 01:07:07.219 --> 01:07:17.340 younger and younger. It's like, hey. Tell me 01:07:17.340 --> 01:07:20.780 about, maybe we'll shift gears to more recent. 01:07:21.219 --> 01:07:26.139 Tell me about your role with Dr. Bogner. Yeah, 01:07:26.139 --> 01:07:28.980 Dr. Christian Wagner, he's a good example of, 01:07:28.980 --> 01:07:31.719 you know, a pediatrician, right, who's focused 01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:35.079 on helping and serving these kids and these parents. 01:07:35.579 --> 01:07:38.440 And, you know, he's more for people who aren't 01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:40.579 familiar with him. You know, he's definitely 01:07:40.579 --> 01:07:43.019 not a conventional doctor. He takes more of a 01:07:43.019 --> 01:07:46.159 functional approach. I think he would consider 01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:51.429 himself to be part of this more kind of maps 01:07:51.429 --> 01:07:54.170 type practitioners of the Medical Academy of 01:07:54.170 --> 01:07:56.570 Pediatric Special Needs. I've had many of their 01:07:56.570 --> 01:07:58.869 leadership and their practitioners on the podcast. 01:07:59.389 --> 01:08:03.210 So Dr. Bogner similarly is about kind of more 01:08:03.210 --> 01:08:05.949 of a functional approach to what's going on with 01:08:05.949 --> 01:08:09.449 your child. And he's doing some great work in 01:08:09.449 --> 01:08:11.949 terms of serving parents because finding the 01:08:11.949 --> 01:08:15.750 right practitioner is so incredibly important 01:08:15.750 --> 01:08:19.239 because in my opinion, You need a team. It's 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:21.359 like an organization chart. You're at the top 01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:23.739 of the organization chart. You're the CEO and 01:08:23.739 --> 01:08:27.159 you need people reporting to you. They're your 01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:31.479 direct reports, right? And for me, I feel like 01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:34.279 having a person with a medical degree as one 01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:37.840 of those advisors is key. Now, if that's a pediatrician, 01:08:38.579 --> 01:08:40.460 conventional pediatricians don't have much in 01:08:40.460 --> 01:08:43.659 their toolbox to help. a child with complex conditions, 01:08:44.180 --> 01:08:46.359 which is why choosing the right practitioner, 01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:48.760 it's likely not to be a conventional medicine 01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.699 doctor. It might be functional medicine, which 01:08:51.699 --> 01:08:53.619 is taking more of a systems approach. And then 01:08:53.619 --> 01:08:55.180 kind of in the middle, you have an integrated 01:08:55.180 --> 01:08:57.520 practitioner, which is more of a conventional 01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:59.760 medicine doctor that just has more tools in the 01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:02.619 toolbox, including more energetic approaches 01:09:02.619 --> 01:09:06.619 or homeopathy, things like that. So a big part 01:09:06.619 --> 01:09:09.609 of my coaching is to help parents Get out of 01:09:09.609 --> 01:09:11.930 their head what they're looking for in a practitioner 01:09:11.930 --> 01:09:14.630 who would be a fit who wouldn't be a fit and 01:09:14.630 --> 01:09:17.550 based on their Requirements, it's easy for me 01:09:17.550 --> 01:09:19.430 to share my Rolodex. Okay. Here are the people 01:09:19.430 --> 01:09:22.050 who fit what you're looking for And where dr. 01:09:22.170 --> 01:09:26.090 Bogner comes in is he's got a really great Holistic 01:09:26.090 --> 01:09:29.409 approach. He's committed to serving these parents 01:09:29.409 --> 01:09:32.789 and making it affordable because if you do find 01:09:32.789 --> 01:09:35.720 a practitioner who's a fit, sometimes that could 01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:37.640 be a pretty expensive road. It may very well 01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:40.659 be worth the investment, but Dr. Bogner knows 01:09:40.659 --> 01:09:42.399 that there's a lot of people who want to work 01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:44.680 with a MAPS type practitioner or functional medicine 01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:48.000 practitioner, and he's committed to trying to 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:50.579 do it in a way where he can do it virtually. 01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:54.100 As well as making it more affordable in terms 01:09:54.100 --> 01:09:58.039 of the test that are done the consults so i think 01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:00.239 what christian's doing is phenomenal and his 01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:03.840 partner alexa haricus who's a parent but the 01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:10.100 brilliant guy. He's created a unique stool test 01:10:10.100 --> 01:10:14.529 that basically is a gut balancing. protocol that 01:10:14.529 --> 01:10:17.170 he has that's leveraging this one very simple 01:10:17.170 --> 01:10:19.689 school test, very affordable, that helps give 01:10:19.689 --> 01:10:23.149 much more precise recommendations about what's 01:10:23.149 --> 01:10:25.430 going on with your child and what supplements 01:10:25.430 --> 01:10:28.649 or what approaches might help with improving 01:10:28.649 --> 01:10:30.869 gut health, which I think probably most of your 01:10:30.869 --> 01:10:35.449 listeners know. If you have dysbiosis and imbalance, 01:10:35.670 --> 01:10:38.680 if the gut is kind of not in a great place, that 01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:40.960 absolutely impacts neurological functioning. 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:44.020 So I think what Dr. Bogner and what Alex are 01:10:44.020 --> 01:10:47.199 doing is much more of an approach that's centered 01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:50.300 on kind of improving gut health. And when you 01:10:50.300 --> 01:10:54.880 do that, lots of positive changes occur. Yeah, 01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:56.880 it's all connected. It's all very connected. 01:10:59.300 --> 01:11:02.539 At what point were you to the spot where you 01:11:02.539 --> 01:11:06.960 was like, well, I could help coach parents and 01:11:07.449 --> 01:11:14.310 kind of make this more widespread? It's a good 01:11:14.310 --> 01:11:20.289 question. I really think early on what I knew 01:11:20.289 --> 01:11:22.930 I couldn't do, because I'm not a great multitasker, 01:11:23.329 --> 01:11:27.449 I couldn't focus on my son and at the same time 01:11:27.449 --> 01:11:31.189 help other people. So I kind of stayed in isolation. 01:11:31.470 --> 01:11:33.909 And I always said to myself, once my son gets 01:11:33.909 --> 01:11:36.090 in a better place, then I want to find a way. 01:11:36.380 --> 01:11:38.460 to help parents, because I didn't want parents 01:11:38.460 --> 01:11:41.420 to have to go through the learning curve I did. 01:11:42.220 --> 01:11:45.420 So, you know, I think me having a desire to pay 01:11:45.420 --> 01:11:49.319 it forward probably kind of took root, you know, 01:11:49.539 --> 01:11:51.899 probably about five years into the journey. I 01:11:51.899 --> 01:11:53.460 didn't know what that was going to look like. 01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:55.840 And I definitely never thought I would leave 01:11:55.840 --> 01:11:59.439 my corporate career to do this full time. But 01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:02.260 it got to a point where there was no more important 01:12:02.260 --> 01:12:06.289 work that I could do. And so I can't not Not 01:12:06.289 --> 01:12:08.829 do this work and i'm just committed to finding. 01:12:09.770 --> 01:12:12.569 Just like doctor bogner is i want to find a better 01:12:12.569 --> 01:12:15.510 and better ways of helping parents make this. 01:12:15.789 --> 01:12:19.390 Leap from where they are now to version two point 01:12:19.390 --> 01:12:24.090 oh what i call parent transformation. I'm trying 01:12:24.090 --> 01:12:26.689 to find more more ways for parents to make that 01:12:26.689 --> 01:12:30.329 shift quickly because the sooner they do. The 01:12:30.329 --> 01:12:33.289 ROI on that for them and their child's massive 01:12:33.289 --> 01:12:36.949 and. If they become better decision makers and 01:12:36.949 --> 01:12:41.409 more resilient and more flexible and looser and 01:12:41.409 --> 01:12:44.729 more present, I mean, that will compound in so 01:12:44.729 --> 01:12:47.510 many ways day after day after day. So I didn't 01:12:47.510 --> 01:12:50.949 think it was, I didn't want parents to take 12 01:12:50.949 --> 01:12:53.930 years to make that shift. And so that's where 01:12:53.930 --> 01:12:57.170 I just found the fastest way for them to. Step 01:12:57.170 --> 01:12:59.430 into the the parent that they're they're meant 01:12:59.430 --> 01:13:02.430 to be rapidly and again It has everything to 01:13:02.430 --> 01:13:04.149 do with them going from where they are which 01:13:04.149 --> 01:13:07.390 is not a lowly place But going from where they 01:13:07.390 --> 01:13:12.329 are to something significantly More capable more 01:13:12.329 --> 01:13:15.270 confident. So many of the parents I work with 01:13:15.270 --> 01:13:18.350 start off in significant overwhelm and they're 01:13:18.350 --> 01:13:21.869 stressed and so they go from there to where they're 01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:24.960 Moving with greater momentum and confidence and 01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:29.119 some parents start and they're already running 01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:31.239 on all cylinders, making great decisions, feeling 01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:33.279 good about what they're doing. But this coaching 01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:35.939 then enables them to become truly unstoppable. 01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:39.220 So every parent has room for growth. And I just 01:13:39.220 --> 01:13:42.539 feel like the more parents do that, their child 01:13:42.539 --> 01:13:46.680 benefits more than any other intervention. And 01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:50.319 but I think that the challenge is Many parents 01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:53.439 feel guilty or selfish if they focus on themselves. 01:13:53.619 --> 01:13:56.920 You know, it's that oxygen mask analogy. Um, 01:13:56.920 --> 01:13:59.979 but again, if parents can just prioritize themselves 01:13:59.979 --> 01:14:04.199 first and get to that stronger place, it makes 01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:09.300 all the difference. Can you tell us about the, 01:14:09.300 --> 01:14:13.039 the kind of the evolution of the podcast, um, 01:14:13.140 --> 01:14:17.380 from starting it, the beginning episodes to how 01:14:17.380 --> 01:14:21.180 it's, how you built it up. And to where it is 01:14:21.180 --> 01:14:23.800 now, if you had any kind of moments where it's 01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:27.239 like, we need a pivot, or, you know, you have 01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:30.560 that great sense of analytic and business mind, 01:14:30.779 --> 01:14:34.399 and then talk us through, like the creation of 01:14:34.399 --> 01:14:40.539 your website, your website is fantastic. Just 01:14:40.539 --> 01:14:45.079 tell us about the evolution of the podcast. Well, 01:14:45.100 --> 01:14:48.500 I think the the podcast I think like a lot of 01:14:48.500 --> 01:14:51.000 things I've been learning right where At some 01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:52.500 point if you want to do something you just got 01:14:52.500 --> 01:14:55.319 to do it and you just improve it over time So 01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:58.720 I thought about it for a while and then eventually 01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:01.840 launched it And and I'd launched it initially 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:07.279 with my wife and and I think It's pretty it's 01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:09.500 it's still pretty consistent in terms of the 01:15:09.500 --> 01:15:12.320 structure. I think the thing that's shifted Is 01:15:12.320 --> 01:15:16.079 that, you know, initially the podcast, um, well, 01:15:16.220 --> 01:15:18.380 the podcast has always been called autism parenting 01:15:18.380 --> 01:15:21.600 secrets. And that hasn't changed. And I don't 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:23.979 like the title by the way, because everything 01:15:23.979 --> 01:15:26.420 we talk about isn't specifically about autism. 01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:29.220 It's about, you know, so the diagnosis doesn't 01:15:29.220 --> 01:15:32.079 matter. It's just, I know I want to serve those 01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:34.220 parents. Cause I think autism particularly can 01:15:34.220 --> 01:15:37.890 be a very. Very challenging journey. So I, so 01:15:37.890 --> 01:15:39.890 autism's in the title because I want to reach 01:15:39.890 --> 01:15:42.390 those people. But, you know, it doesn't matter 01:15:42.390 --> 01:15:46.109 what your child might be facing, whether, you 01:15:46.109 --> 01:15:48.630 know, whatever the diagnosis, it doesn't matter. 01:15:48.970 --> 01:15:50.729 Everything that's in the podcast is going to 01:15:50.729 --> 01:15:55.609 be equally useful. Autism is in the title, um, 01:15:55.609 --> 01:15:57.510 parenting, you know, it's not necessarily me 01:15:57.510 --> 01:15:59.529 giving parenting advice. It's just that this 01:15:59.529 --> 01:16:02.489 is for parents. And then the secret, the big 01:16:02.489 --> 01:16:06.550 secret is, you know, It's an intriguing title 01:16:06.550 --> 01:16:08.890 for the app for the podcast. Cause oh, what's 01:16:08.890 --> 01:16:10.829 the, what are the secrets? Well, the secrets 01:16:10.829 --> 01:16:13.210 are the insights that we share each week and 01:16:13.210 --> 01:16:16.390 the title is always the insight. So it's very 01:16:16.390 --> 01:16:19.310 clear what every episode's about, but the Uber 01:16:19.310 --> 01:16:21.890 secret is that parent, you're the key, whether 01:16:21.890 --> 01:16:25.489 you like it or not. It is you. And that, that 01:16:25.489 --> 01:16:28.630 may feel daunting, but no, that's. You have so 01:16:28.630 --> 01:16:32.050 much power. So if you can, again, get to that 01:16:32.050 --> 01:16:33.970 stronger place rapidly, listen to the podcast, 01:16:34.090 --> 01:16:36.550 there's so much in there, that's the biggest 01:16:36.550 --> 01:16:39.930 unlock. So I think in terms of the podcast evolution, 01:16:40.069 --> 01:16:41.909 the only thing that's really shifted is initially 01:16:41.909 --> 01:16:45.090 the coaching and the way of helping parents. 01:16:45.829 --> 01:16:49.170 I called it warrior parent coaching because warrior 01:16:49.170 --> 01:16:52.029 parent is a term that's known in the autism community. 01:16:52.050 --> 01:16:54.649 Going back to Jenny McCarthy's book that she 01:16:54.649 --> 01:16:58.260 wrote early on. And I like that. name and my 01:16:58.260 --> 01:17:00.539 wife and I both like that because it conveyed 01:17:00.539 --> 01:17:03.779 energy. It conveyed, Hey, I'm going to bring 01:17:03.779 --> 01:17:07.739 my best self, but ultimately I don't use that 01:17:07.739 --> 01:17:10.140 term anywhere because warrior conveys that you 01:17:10.140 --> 01:17:12.479 are at war with something. And you know, this 01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:16.300 is, that's not the right approach right now for 01:17:16.300 --> 01:17:19.680 you to be at war. with autism or to be at war 01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:21.819 with your child or even to be at war with yourself 01:17:21.819 --> 01:17:25.020 as I was alluding to earlier, the warrior term 01:17:25.020 --> 01:17:27.960 doesn't feel right. So that's why right now, 01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:31.399 you know, the way I help parents one -on -one, 01:17:31.619 --> 01:17:34.340 it's all in parent coaching. And it's really 01:17:34.340 --> 01:17:38.500 that term is specific because parents already 01:17:38.500 --> 01:17:42.159 have this huge desire to be a great parent, to 01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:44.659 make great decisions. You know, every single 01:17:44.659 --> 01:17:47.689 parent I've ever talked to has that desire. But 01:17:47.689 --> 01:17:51.010 what they may not have is really being all in 01:17:51.010 --> 01:17:53.310 and raising their hand on doing what's necessary. 01:17:54.149 --> 01:17:56.609 And that means working on themselves. That means 01:17:56.609 --> 01:17:59.609 having hard conversations. That means, you know, 01:17:59.710 --> 01:18:02.609 standing out and being judged by others who aren't 01:18:02.609 --> 01:18:05.109 cheering you on for what you're doing, the research 01:18:05.109 --> 01:18:06.949 you're doing or the supplements you're giving 01:18:06.949 --> 01:18:09.880 or whatever the case may be. So that's where 01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:13.119 the all in term, I think is a much more relevant. 01:18:13.619 --> 01:18:16.260 Uh, but otherwise, no, I think the podcast, um, 01:18:16.260 --> 01:18:19.060 as it's evolved, I think I've gotten better at 01:18:19.060 --> 01:18:21.899 shutting up and letting my guests speak. And, 01:18:22.260 --> 01:18:24.539 uh, and I, I think I've gotten good at helping 01:18:24.539 --> 01:18:28.199 to guide guests to put things in terms that the 01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:30.500 listener can understand. You know, sometimes 01:18:30.500 --> 01:18:33.199 you listen to a podcast and it's just, you know, 01:18:33.769 --> 01:18:37.229 It's just incomprehensible and people are like 01:18:37.229 --> 01:18:39.869 the questions you might have as you're listening 01:18:39.869 --> 01:18:41.390 aren't being answered. So I think I've gotten 01:18:41.390 --> 01:18:44.930 good at keeping the conversations going in a 01:18:44.930 --> 01:18:48.149 way that makes it digestible. And again, it's 01:18:48.149 --> 01:18:50.170 not about me trying to show how much I know and 01:18:50.170 --> 01:18:53.090 impressing other people. That's not my goal. 01:18:53.109 --> 01:18:55.409 My goal is to get the most out of that guest 01:18:55.409 --> 01:18:58.289 for them to share their perspective and again, 01:18:58.430 --> 01:19:01.850 to ultimately land with what can a parent do 01:19:01.850 --> 01:19:04.670 to implement How can they take action based on 01:19:04.670 --> 01:19:07.109 this information? What's that look like? And 01:19:07.109 --> 01:19:10.409 so I think that's why the podcast has been very 01:19:10.409 --> 01:19:12.970 successful. I get lots of feedback from parents 01:19:12.970 --> 01:19:15.970 who really feel like it's a critical part. And 01:19:15.970 --> 01:19:20.470 so I'm honored that people are being positively 01:19:20.470 --> 01:19:23.329 influenced by the podcast and it's helping them. 01:19:23.329 --> 01:19:26.649 And that was the goal. I wanted a way to convey 01:19:26.649 --> 01:19:30.130 this information in a digestible way, in a free 01:19:30.130 --> 01:19:34.000 way, and for parents to take to take that information 01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:36.779 and for in some way, shape or form to help them 01:19:36.779 --> 01:19:39.319 as they're making the best decisions they can. 01:19:39.340 --> 01:19:41.920 And I think it's accomplished that. And I have 01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:44.199 no desire to end it any time soon. So we're going 01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:46.819 to keep going. And having dynamite guests like 01:19:46.819 --> 01:19:50.939 yourself on, I think, again, there's no criteria 01:19:50.939 --> 01:19:53.119 for who comes on the podcast. It doesn't have 01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:55.539 to be an autism expert. It's just someone with 01:19:55.539 --> 01:19:59.529 a useful perspective who truly want the best 01:19:59.529 --> 01:20:01.489 for these listeners and to share information 01:20:01.489 --> 01:20:03.729 that's useful, and that's what it's all about. 01:20:04.569 --> 01:20:06.670 Yeah, it's a great database. As you're sitting 01:20:06.670 --> 01:20:09.050 there explaining, and as I'm sitting there visualizing 01:20:09.050 --> 01:20:12.829 myself navigating the website, which is fantastic. 01:20:13.430 --> 01:20:16.010 It's like a database of autism stuff, and it's 01:20:16.010 --> 01:20:18.750 very fantastic. It is, and actually a lot of 01:20:18.750 --> 01:20:23.229 times when I do advise parents, sometimes like 01:20:23.229 --> 01:20:26.310 what they're challenged with Sometimes the best 01:20:26.310 --> 01:20:27.970 thing I could do is just share with them a very 01:20:27.970 --> 01:20:31.409 specific episode. So I appreciate that you said 01:20:31.409 --> 01:20:34.729 that because it really is a library. And again, 01:20:34.850 --> 01:20:38.569 who has time to go listen to 285 episodes, but 01:20:38.569 --> 01:20:41.210 you sometimes it's useful to hear the right episode 01:20:41.210 --> 01:20:44.409 at the right time. And that's where a lot of 01:20:44.409 --> 01:20:48.369 what I do is sharing, sharing the right specific 01:20:48.369 --> 01:20:51.789 episode that will hit when you're just at the 01:20:51.789 --> 01:20:54.560 right time when you're ready to receive it. Yeah, 01:20:54.619 --> 01:20:57.600 I had a question about that. How do you help 01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:00.220 direct people to your specific episodes? And 01:21:00.220 --> 01:21:03.239 yeah, you do that so well. Well, the website, 01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:06.239 it's being changed so that the episodes now, 01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:09.779 I'm not finished with it yet, but all the episodes 01:21:09.779 --> 01:21:12.279 are being categorized in a more meaningful way. 01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:14.779 So specifically, if you're, let's say, looking 01:21:14.779 --> 01:21:17.039 for something related to EMF, right, it'd be 01:21:17.039 --> 01:21:20.380 easier to find those episodes. So, so yeah, so 01:21:20.380 --> 01:21:22.909 right now. It's at a certain point, not all the 01:21:22.909 --> 01:21:24.750 episodes going back to the beginning are there 01:21:24.750 --> 01:21:26.930 over the next few weeks that all be populated. 01:21:27.489 --> 01:21:29.229 So, so yeah, I want to make it easier for people 01:21:29.229 --> 01:21:33.270 to find that right episode. Well, the admission 01:21:33.270 --> 01:21:37.329 or will it be like a click down or like you click 01:21:37.329 --> 01:21:39.909 and it'll be like EMF or, you know, whatever. 01:21:40.369 --> 01:21:43.529 Or is it like a search type of thing? Uh, yeah, 01:21:43.630 --> 01:21:46.409 right now, uh, it would be, if you go to the 01:21:46.409 --> 01:21:48.470 website and you go to the prior episodes, it's 01:21:48.470 --> 01:21:50.489 going to list the last 10 episodes and you can 01:21:50.489 --> 01:21:53.550 load more and see, see all the history, but then 01:21:53.550 --> 01:21:56.170 there's six buttons, uh, that are there that 01:21:56.170 --> 01:21:58.130 categorize them. So, so each of the episodes 01:21:58.130 --> 01:22:01.079 can be categorized. Um, you know, so I think 01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:04.220 depending on what you're looking for, um, uh, 01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:06.720 by looking at the right category button, you'll 01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:08.340 find what you're looking for easier, but there'll 01:22:08.340 --> 01:22:11.600 be a search function eventually. Um, and, you 01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:13.420 know, you can always just go on Apple podcasts 01:22:13.420 --> 01:22:15.500 or Spotify and just type in autism parenting 01:22:15.500 --> 01:22:18.699 secrets and type in EMF afterwards and you'll, 01:22:18.699 --> 01:22:20.439 you'll, you can get it that way as well. But 01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:24.089 I've had some dynamite episodes on. electromagnetic 01:22:24.089 --> 01:22:27.529 fields. And again, you can't listen to those 01:22:27.529 --> 01:22:30.449 episodes and not walk away wanting to take action. 01:22:31.289 --> 01:22:34.729 Yeah, they're well done. What is something recently 01:22:34.729 --> 01:22:39.090 you're most excited about? Well, it's hard to 01:22:39.090 --> 01:22:41.970 not just mention what's happening at HHS, right? 01:22:42.090 --> 01:22:46.029 So I think RFK Jr. is someone I've met several 01:22:46.029 --> 01:22:48.949 times and have heard him speak countless times. 01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:52.119 Uh, he's a regular at these autism conferences 01:22:52.119 --> 01:22:54.460 and it's not like he was coming in there and 01:22:54.460 --> 01:22:57.819 seeing an opportunity and saying stuff, you know, 01:22:57.819 --> 01:23:00.880 placating people. I mean, he sincerely is in 01:23:00.880 --> 01:23:04.680 earnest. With just wanting these agencies to 01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:06.880 do what they're supposed to do for the real science 01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:08.800 to be done. So I couldn't be more optimistic 01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:12.600 that with him there, a lot of positive change 01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:15.020 can be, can be, can be accomplished. And it's 01:23:15.020 --> 01:23:18.210 already. I think a lot that's happening. I think 01:23:18.210 --> 01:23:21.390 so I'm very hopeful for what can happen. I'm 01:23:21.390 --> 01:23:24.010 very hopeful with respect to an organization 01:23:24.010 --> 01:23:26.550 like Children's Health Defense and what they're 01:23:26.550 --> 01:23:30.670 doing. And so again, I'm huge fans of those organizations. 01:23:30.670 --> 01:23:34.210 And I feel like we're getting to a point now 01:23:34.210 --> 01:23:36.489 where I think parents will have much more information 01:23:36.489 --> 01:23:39.729 about what's happening. A lot of these stressors, 01:23:39.810 --> 01:23:41.909 these things that are maybe contributing to the 01:23:41.909 --> 01:23:45.649 rise or the explosion of autism. Um, can, can 01:23:45.649 --> 01:23:48.630 be addressed and we can turn the tide and, you 01:23:48.630 --> 01:23:51.550 know, ultimately there's just so many kids who 01:23:51.550 --> 01:23:54.470 are hampered and challenged in so many ways. 01:23:54.510 --> 01:23:57.930 And I think, um, RFK junior in that role can 01:23:57.930 --> 01:24:00.770 uniquely. I've really stemmed a tide across so 01:24:00.770 --> 01:24:02.810 many fronts and he's got to be strategic with 01:24:02.810 --> 01:24:05.109 how he goes about it. And again, it's not about 01:24:05.109 --> 01:24:06.949 one thing. There's a lot of stressors. There's 01:24:06.949 --> 01:24:09.510 a lot of things that I mentioned and I, and I 01:24:09.510 --> 01:24:13.470 know he is aware enough about all these issues. 01:24:14.029 --> 01:24:16.569 to get things shifting in the right direction. 01:24:16.649 --> 01:24:19.670 So I'm just very hopeful that we're getting to 01:24:19.670 --> 01:24:21.750 a place where we are addressing a lot of these 01:24:21.750 --> 01:24:25.289 root causes in a systemic way. And the explosion 01:24:25.289 --> 01:24:29.130 of these neurological conditions and these diagnoses, 01:24:29.789 --> 01:24:34.010 we start to turn a tide. And going back to EMF, 01:24:34.109 --> 01:24:37.140 we can do all that. but if kids are constantly 01:24:37.140 --> 01:24:39.979 on their screens and on their phones and the 01:24:39.979 --> 01:24:42.159 dysregulation that happens just from our addiction 01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:45.060 to screen time, social media and all that, you 01:24:45.060 --> 01:24:47.279 know, that's another important piece of the puzzle. 01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:52.479 So again, we're moving in so exponentially in 01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:55.140 so many different areas, AI and the impact of 01:24:55.140 --> 01:24:57.720 that. But for these known stressors that are 01:24:57.720 --> 01:25:01.250 out there to be able to start. Having policy 01:25:01.250 --> 01:25:04.989 and science that helps us to make better decisions 01:25:04.989 --> 01:25:09.409 as a society. I couldn't be more hopeful now 01:25:09.409 --> 01:25:11.810 that he's in place and he's assembled the right 01:25:11.810 --> 01:25:15.270 team. And again, fingers crossed, but I've been 01:25:15.270 --> 01:25:18.750 hoping and praying that he would get that role 01:25:18.750 --> 01:25:21.689 for a long, long time. So to see it actually 01:25:21.689 --> 01:25:26.449 happening, it gives me a reason for informed 01:25:26.449 --> 01:25:29.949 optimism. Yeah, you mentioned the word informed 01:25:29.949 --> 01:25:31.829 a couple of times and that's something that's 01:25:31.829 --> 01:25:35.869 missing. It's missing in medicine and a lot of 01:25:35.869 --> 01:25:38.130 different things. And I say that not arrogantly 01:25:38.130 --> 01:25:41.189 because I was very uninformed. So all the ways 01:25:41.189 --> 01:25:43.369 that I mentioned about parents and I wasn't a 01:25:43.369 --> 01:25:46.010 lowly person. I showed up even I showed up even 01:25:46.010 --> 01:25:49.350 more naively confident that I can, you know, 01:25:49.470 --> 01:25:52.090 uninformed confidence almost. But yeah, I think 01:25:52.090 --> 01:25:54.510 just taking the time. It's inconvenient to get. 01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:57.100 More information. What's going on with your child? 01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:00.380 What's going on? What are these stressors? The 01:26:00.380 --> 01:26:02.439 idea of not wanting to know because then you'll 01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:06.220 have to take some action. Yeah, that's just not 01:26:06.220 --> 01:26:11.579 a great strategy. Yeah, informed. We don't get 01:26:11.579 --> 01:26:14.479 informed consent over medications and things. 01:26:14.779 --> 01:26:21.119 We get small cliff notes of it. But a couple 01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:22.979 more questions if you don't mind. Yeah, go ahead. 01:26:23.630 --> 01:26:26.390 What is one thing you wish everyone knew about 01:26:26.390 --> 01:26:35.729 autism? I guess my answer, you won't like it, 01:26:35.729 --> 01:26:39.850 but I would say that that label is irrelevant. 01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:44.779 I would say that that term autism it just really 01:26:44.779 --> 01:26:47.520 is practically meaningless because it's autism 01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:51.220 spectrum whether it's high functioning or or 01:26:51.220 --> 01:26:55.500 profound autism huge differences and And that's 01:26:55.500 --> 01:26:57.359 where even with my son. I've said this on a few 01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:00.960 episodes I mean, I forget the age where he was 01:27:00.960 --> 01:27:04.300 he even heard the term from me because I never 01:27:04.300 --> 01:27:06.520 used a label with him So I think he was around 01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:10.560 15. He's 18 now Before he had any sense that 01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:14.500 he quote -unquote had or has autism. I mean right 01:27:14.500 --> 01:27:17.479 now he is Profoundly different than where he 01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:19.699 was but he's still a quirky kid and some people 01:27:19.699 --> 01:27:21.380 would probably see him and be like, oh, yeah 01:27:21.380 --> 01:27:23.619 He's somewhere on the spectrum, but he's never 01:27:23.619 --> 01:27:26.340 identified with that and that's where I guess 01:27:26.340 --> 01:27:29.039 What I wish people would learn is that just take 01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:31.119 the diagnosis take whatever label that you have 01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:33.100 Hey that that is information you can use and 01:27:33.100 --> 01:27:36.399 it's not about denying reality but forget about 01:27:36.430 --> 01:27:39.710 treating autism, addressing autism. It's all 01:27:39.710 --> 01:27:41.909 like what's going on with your child? What are 01:27:41.909 --> 01:27:44.630 the behaviors or what's the physical issues they 01:27:44.630 --> 01:27:47.189 have? And again, I think what I'd like people 01:27:47.189 --> 01:27:51.229 to catch is it's not about treating autism. It's 01:27:51.229 --> 01:27:54.710 about you figuring out what are the unique root 01:27:54.710 --> 01:27:57.649 causes behind whatever's happening and focus 01:27:57.649 --> 01:28:00.869 there. So I would say drop, drop the label. And 01:28:00.869 --> 01:28:04.039 I guess the way I look at it is If this is a 01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:06.659 game, and I think it is, about having really 01:28:06.659 --> 01:28:09.100 good educated guesses on the two or three root 01:28:09.100 --> 01:28:11.560 causes to focus on for your child right now, 01:28:11.979 --> 01:28:14.479 I think it's like Pin the Tail on the Donkey, 01:28:15.060 --> 01:28:19.520 where you have this huge list of possible root 01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:23.460 causes, and the key is putting that thumbtack 01:28:23.460 --> 01:28:26.829 on the ones to focus on now. And that's why I 01:28:26.829 --> 01:28:30.010 created actually a master database of root causes 01:28:30.010 --> 01:28:32.670 and secondary root causes like it's pretty complex 01:28:32.670 --> 01:28:35.289 all the possible root causes that are out there. 01:28:35.729 --> 01:28:39.210 But a parent on their own is just kind of guessing 01:28:39.210 --> 01:28:42.630 and so the key is get a good advisory team to 01:28:42.630 --> 01:28:46.010 help you make better educated guesses and what 01:28:46.010 --> 01:28:49.920 I do. now for a living is to help parents really 01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:52.000 have more precision with where to stick that 01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.520 thumbtack on a few key root causes to address 01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:59.199 now. And so it's the difference between playing 01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:03.600 pin the tail on a donkey blindfolded versus doing 01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:06.479 it with eyes wide open and in a much more aware 01:29:06.479 --> 01:29:12.199 and informed way. That label you mentioned earlier 01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:15.560 in the episode about our beliefs. that label 01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:20.899 can really hamper our beliefs. And you don't 01:29:20.899 --> 01:29:24.960 don't don't allow it to do that. You're 100 percent 01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:29.340 right. It that belief that it's about autism 01:29:29.340 --> 01:29:32.279 really can steer you in the wrong direction. 01:29:32.779 --> 01:29:34.560 And so again, you can with likeness take that 01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:36.880 information and it's it's data. It's someone's 01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:39.560 opinion. It's it's it's comparing your child 01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:42.020 to some benchmark. OK, great. You take that in. 01:29:42.420 --> 01:29:45.600 But again. I just thought there was no upside 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:49.060 with me defining my child with that diagnosis, 01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:50.600 and I definitely didn't think it would benefit 01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:53.439 him to walk around feeling, oh yeah, I have autism. 01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:56.100 And again, it's not about denying, and it's not 01:29:56.100 --> 01:29:58.939 about lack of respect for a neurodivergent person, 01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:03.079 not at all. I just didn't think that label really 01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:06.340 served any purpose. So that's where, in answer 01:30:06.340 --> 01:30:09.159 to your question, yeah, I would say parents... 01:30:09.100 --> 01:30:12.140 Just rethink what that label means to you. Take 01:30:12.140 --> 01:30:15.699 it more lightly as information, but focus much 01:30:15.699 --> 01:30:19.300 more on where your child is. And the big question 01:30:19.300 --> 01:30:22.520 for you to ask yourself is not how can I treat 01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:26.479 or address autism? It's how can I, in a much 01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:29.960 more powerful way, meet my child where they are 01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:33.550 and to make useful decisions that help. unlock 01:30:33.550 --> 01:30:35.930 their capacity. And if you're looking at it from 01:30:35.930 --> 01:30:39.149 that perspective and dropping that label, I think 01:30:39.149 --> 01:30:43.789 you remove a lot of friction off the bat. Yeah, 01:30:43.810 --> 01:30:47.789 friction. I like the use of friction today. It's 01:30:47.789 --> 01:30:52.729 something that's concerning to me is one thing 01:30:52.729 --> 01:30:56.449 that I hope is done soon is taking back the definition 01:30:56.449 --> 01:30:58.930 of autism, though, not to kind of cancel out 01:30:58.930 --> 01:31:03.720 what we just talked about. The definition of 01:31:03.720 --> 01:31:07.260 autism is wide open now and it's nothing but 01:31:07.260 --> 01:31:10.859 confusion and I don't necessarily think that 01:31:10.859 --> 01:31:18.140 I'm a fan of that But It's like just throwing 01:31:18.140 --> 01:31:22.460 everything into like this Autism spectrum thing 01:31:22.460 --> 01:31:25.760 and just because of there's a little bit of Delta 01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:28.899 and shifts from the social norms that some people 01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:34.720 I'll take odd, quirky, eccentric type of things. 01:31:35.100 --> 01:31:38.699 That's great. I don't like that at all. But it's 01:31:38.699 --> 01:31:41.359 like, there's just, you know, the definitions 01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:45.239 have changed over the last maybe 15 years or 01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:50.359 so, 20 years, kind of post -hoc of the max schedule 01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:55.539 on things. But I hope that... It just gets so 01:31:55.539 --> 01:31:57.979 confusing, right, with the labels. And that's 01:31:57.979 --> 01:32:01.500 where, again, it's just... Drop it and just focus 01:32:01.500 --> 01:32:05.380 on what's going on with my child And just that 01:32:05.380 --> 01:32:07.239 label especially especially as they continue 01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:11.020 to make changes. It just may not be very useful 01:32:11.020 --> 01:32:14.060 and again, it doesn't define anything and The 01:32:14.060 --> 01:32:17.300 way I describe it is that right now at least 01:32:17.300 --> 01:32:21.100 autism is a label that's given if you exhibit 01:32:21.100 --> 01:32:23.359 a certain number of symptoms if you check enough 01:32:23.359 --> 01:32:27.510 boxes and that is all purely for the purpose 01:32:27.510 --> 01:32:30.729 to get this formal diagnosis that ultimately 01:32:30.729 --> 01:32:34.689 enables you to get services that actually then 01:32:34.689 --> 01:32:38.529 address those symptoms, right? So the whole thing 01:32:38.529 --> 01:32:40.949 is a hamster wheel about symptoms and there's 01:32:40.949 --> 01:32:43.250 nothing about the root cause. You go talk to 01:32:43.250 --> 01:32:45.270 a behavioral therapist about root cause, they 01:32:45.270 --> 01:32:46.829 may look at you like you're crazy. Like, what 01:32:46.829 --> 01:32:50.289 do you mean root cause, right? So that's where 01:32:50.289 --> 01:32:54.050 the system that exists now is all symptom driven. 01:32:54.380 --> 01:32:56.779 in terms of diagnosis and then what you do with 01:32:56.779 --> 01:33:01.439 that diagnosis. So my suggestion is, again, step 01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:04.359 off of that and just have more of a root cause 01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:07.000 approach with lightness, with pure acceptance 01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:10.380 of your child as they are now, label or no label, 01:33:10.640 --> 01:33:14.220 that acceptance is key because we're all so unique 01:33:14.220 --> 01:33:18.039 and that's why forcing any kind of label on it 01:33:18.039 --> 01:33:20.520 isn't usually helpful. But the full acceptance 01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:23.239 of your child as they are now, can you endeavor 01:33:23.239 --> 01:33:26.420 to really Address the root causes as opposed 01:33:26.420 --> 01:33:28.220 to just focusing on the symptoms. It doesn't 01:33:28.220 --> 01:33:29.960 mean you can't do things on the symptoms, but 01:33:29.960 --> 01:33:32.039 that if that's where all your energy is going, 01:33:32.500 --> 01:33:37.380 everyone will stay stuck. Yeah, it's not a good 01:33:37.380 --> 01:33:41.060 outcome either. Have we not or is there anything 01:33:41.060 --> 01:33:44.039 else that we haven't covered? I have one last 01:33:44.039 --> 01:33:47.479 question, but if there's anything that we haven't 01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:50.479 covered or you want to share, feel free to do 01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:54.609 so and definitely. Tell us about how to contact 01:33:54.609 --> 01:33:57.789 you for that one -on -one coaching and direct 01:33:57.789 --> 01:34:01.029 us to your website. I'll do that quick. And then 01:34:01.029 --> 01:34:03.329 when you end it with your final question, but 01:34:03.329 --> 01:34:06.949 yeah, it's easy. People can go to elevate how 01:34:06.949 --> 01:34:10.170 you navigate .com that talks about this coaching 01:34:10.170 --> 01:34:14.329 program. It starts with people clicking. They 01:34:14.329 --> 01:34:17.090 can book time on my calendar, a few questions. 01:34:17.670 --> 01:34:21.210 And again, it's super easy. And this is a fit. 01:34:21.289 --> 01:34:24.130 we're off to the races. And if it's not, that 01:34:24.130 --> 01:34:26.449 call itself will be useful for you because sometimes 01:34:26.449 --> 01:34:29.569 parents just need some space to see things more 01:34:29.569 --> 01:34:33.350 clearly. So I'd encourage anyone go there. The 01:34:33.350 --> 01:34:35.529 podcast, obviously Autism Parenting Secrets, 01:34:35.630 --> 01:34:37.890 and you go to AutismParentingSecrets .com. That's 01:34:37.890 --> 01:34:41.289 the main website. But ElevateHowYouNavigate .com 01:34:41.289 --> 01:34:45.170 is where to go for this very unique way of, as 01:34:45.170 --> 01:34:48.050 a parent, being supported in a real -time way, 01:34:48.270 --> 01:34:51.319 unlike anything that anybody else has. can provide. 01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:53.300 So again, I've been focused on this particular 01:34:53.300 --> 01:34:56.140 problem. I don't think anyone else does anything 01:34:56.140 --> 01:34:59.260 close to what I do. And again, what I do, it's 01:34:59.260 --> 01:35:02.619 not about me. It's about the parent, again, moving 01:35:02.619 --> 01:35:05.199 into a position where they're running on all 01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:11.020 cylinders quickly. Yeah. And just from my experience 01:35:11.020 --> 01:35:14.439 too, the listener can maybe sign up for the email 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:16.920 subscription because you send out very useful 01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:22.400 and updated emails. So it's very Absolutely, 01:35:22.400 --> 01:35:24.319 definitely you can do that. And again, the emails 01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:26.960 are mainly about each week's episode. And again, 01:35:27.039 --> 01:35:29.359 I'd encourage any of your listeners, yeah, listen 01:35:29.359 --> 01:35:32.100 to podcasts. It's meant to be a good use of your 01:35:32.100 --> 01:35:35.439 time, a big ROI in terms of the time invested 01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:40.840 and the information and just overall. what you 01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:46.060 can take away is tangible. And again, any feedback, 01:35:46.340 --> 01:35:49.859 I always appreciate feedback on who parents would 01:35:49.859 --> 01:35:52.779 like as guests or what topics to cover. So people 01:35:52.779 --> 01:35:54.380 can definitely do that. You can always reach 01:35:54.380 --> 01:35:58.560 out to me at Len at allinparent .com. And again, 01:35:58.579 --> 01:36:03.100 I welcome any feedback. Fantastic. So the last 01:36:03.100 --> 01:36:05.119 question I had is that I don't want to sound 01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:09.710 arrogant or anything, but so. With 2026 coming 01:36:09.710 --> 01:36:14.229 up, I just want to ask, because I'm asking people, 01:36:14.430 --> 01:36:20.789 how will you serve humanity in 2026? Well, I 01:36:20.789 --> 01:36:23.810 think it'll be doubling down on what I mentioned 01:36:23.810 --> 01:36:29.069 with respect to this is 2026 is the year of parents, 01:36:29.550 --> 01:36:32.649 parents becoming equipped and empowered to make 01:36:32.649 --> 01:36:35.109 great decisions. And through the podcast, through 01:36:35.109 --> 01:36:38.899 the coaching, I just want to even in a more powerful 01:36:38.899 --> 01:36:42.399 way, help more and more parents see that they 01:36:42.399 --> 01:36:45.479 can make this leap. They can step into this much 01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:48.199 stronger version of themselves. And ultimately, 01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:52.079 I think 2026, the way I would describe it is 01:36:52.079 --> 01:36:56.079 the year of avoiding unnecessary suffering because 01:36:56.079 --> 01:37:00.020 this journey can feel really hard. And in so 01:37:00.020 --> 01:37:03.420 many ways, and I say this with honor and respect, 01:37:03.699 --> 01:37:06.560 I know the real challenges parents are facing. 01:37:07.319 --> 01:37:11.000 And again, the key is you becoming the best decision 01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:15.039 maker you can, and you can't do that if you're 01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:17.840 in your own way, if you're making things harder. 01:37:17.939 --> 01:37:20.159 And again, for you to take control over what 01:37:20.159 --> 01:37:24.210 you can change, which is yourself. Why not make 01:37:24.210 --> 01:37:27.170 that power move as quickly as you can? So I would 01:37:27.170 --> 01:37:30.869 say, yeah, 2026 for a parent. Avoid the unnecessary 01:37:30.869 --> 01:37:33.949 suffering. Bring your best self forward. It's 01:37:33.949 --> 01:37:37.810 not selfish to prioritize your own self -care 01:37:37.810 --> 01:37:40.329 and your own ability to make great decisions. 01:37:40.369 --> 01:37:42.170 It's actually the greatest gift you can make. 01:37:42.470 --> 01:37:44.930 And I think with everything going on in Washington 01:37:44.930 --> 01:37:48.170 and within this country, I think parents are 01:37:48.170 --> 01:37:50.770 going to be in an even better position to make 01:37:50.770 --> 01:37:53.670 really good informed choices. about what's right 01:37:53.670 --> 01:37:57.029 for their child. And the outcome, yes, perhaps 01:37:57.029 --> 01:38:00.569 less people being diagnosed, but the real big 01:38:00.569 --> 01:38:03.810 outcome is just greater love and connection within 01:38:03.810 --> 01:38:07.189 these family units. Because the autism diagnosis 01:38:07.189 --> 01:38:10.609 can wreak so much havoc in so many ways. And 01:38:10.609 --> 01:38:13.310 that, more than anything, is what I'd love for 01:38:13.310 --> 01:38:20.670 my efforts to contribute towards. There's no 01:38:20.670 --> 01:38:24.399 better way to end. Excellent job, Lynn. I just 01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:27.420 admire your passion. Well, thank you, Ryan. I 01:38:27.420 --> 01:38:29.279 admire yours and I'm looking forward to having 01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:32.960 you on my podcast very soon. Oh, sounds good. 01:38:34.859 --> 01:38:37.020 All right. Take care. Thank you.