WEBVTT 00:00:01.449 --> 00:00:05.190 My guest today is Tristan Scott. Tristan has 00:00:05.190 --> 00:00:07.769 a bachelor's and a master's degree in electrical 00:00:07.769 --> 00:00:11.609 engineering. He's an author and former college 00:00:11.609 --> 00:00:16.149 athlete. During his athletic career, Tristan 00:00:16.149 --> 00:00:18.629 suffered many injuries that led him down rabbit 00:00:18.629 --> 00:00:21.750 holes to natural and holistic healing practices. 00:00:23.070 --> 00:00:25.910 He has deeply researched the connection between 00:00:25.910 --> 00:00:29.929 electromagnetism and human biology with a specific 00:00:29.929 --> 00:00:33.600 interest in how man -made electromagnetic fields 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:38.420 could be negatively impacting human health. Currently, 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:41.920 he is head of operations, hardware, and marketing 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:46.000 at Daylight Computer Company. He is now applying 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:48.479 that knowledge at Daylight Computer, whose mission 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:51.659 as a company is to create technology that is 00:00:51.659 --> 00:00:55.820 healthier and more synergetic with humanity. 00:00:57.140 --> 00:00:59.740 Daylight Computer Company, in my opinion, puts 00:00:59.740 --> 00:01:05.209 human health over anything else. Now, my conversation 00:01:05.209 --> 00:01:10.890 with Tristan Scott. Hey, Ryan. Hey, Tristan. 00:01:10.930 --> 00:01:14.150 How are you? I'm good, man. How are you? Not 00:01:14.150 --> 00:01:21.549 bad. I'm jealous of you. Your environment, the 00:01:21.549 --> 00:01:23.730 things that you always post is like, man, he's 00:01:23.730 --> 00:01:27.689 got it right. I'm trying my best. If I wasn't 00:01:27.689 --> 00:01:30.250 working for Daylight, I would just be out here. 00:01:30.379 --> 00:01:33.359 Wandering around all day would be nice But it's 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:35.099 like if you have to stare at a screen all day 00:01:35.099 --> 00:01:37.200 for something as important as daylight might 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.680 as well be out in the wilderness if you can so 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:42.959 it's it's cool the star the starlink solar panels 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:47.200 work really well, I'm like It's kind of crazy 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:52.420 That's good news that way you can stay out there 00:01:52.650 --> 00:01:55.370 Amazing. Yeah, let's do it. I think it's great 00:01:55.370 --> 00:01:58.209 timing I think I mentioned the DMS or I don't 00:01:58.209 --> 00:01:59.930 know but we're launching our initiative next 00:01:59.930 --> 00:02:04.209 week called daylight kids and it's gonna be highly 00:02:04.209 --> 00:02:07.909 targeted to parents for children and Yeah, it's 00:02:07.909 --> 00:02:09.870 where as you could guess where we could have 00:02:09.870 --> 00:02:13.229 the biggest impact. So Would love to get into 00:02:13.229 --> 00:02:16.949 that obviously ASD children is a big one for 00:02:16.949 --> 00:02:19.650 that the neurodivergent kids as well Need it 00:02:19.650 --> 00:02:22.620 more than anyone really so Do you just want to 00:02:22.620 --> 00:02:24.639 start with a little bit of background about yourself 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:29.979 and the path into your passion for natural and 00:02:29.979 --> 00:02:33.039 holistic health and confirm or correct if I use 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:35.319 the word natural and holistic correctly there? 00:02:36.060 --> 00:02:39.639 Yeah, for sure. Well, I'm very fortunate, I would 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:42.840 say, because I did not grow up with a standard 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.159 American upbringing. My mom is from Austria, 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:50.280 so I very much grew up with a family that was 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:54.099 hiking, camping, eating dinners, home -cooked 00:02:54.099 --> 00:02:58.580 meals all the time. Never had chips, soda in 00:02:58.580 --> 00:03:01.379 the house, never really went out to eat, spent 00:03:01.379 --> 00:03:04.319 summers in Austria, so the quality of living 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.560 there is so much higher than a standard American 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:09.699 lifestyle, so very fortunate in that regard. 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:14.219 And always, because of that, had a deep appreciation 00:03:14.219 --> 00:03:18.620 for the outdoors, for nature, and also just movement. 00:03:18.979 --> 00:03:21.860 I played a lot of sports. And I ended up playing 00:03:21.860 --> 00:03:26.259 soccer in college. And that led me to having 00:03:26.259 --> 00:03:29.360 one too many concussions. So that's kind of how 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:31.939 I got down the rabbit hole of health optimization. 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.409 So as a, no. Normal teenager and young adult 00:03:36.409 --> 00:03:39.050 in college, kind of the lifestyle went off the 00:03:39.050 --> 00:03:43.090 rails in terms of sleep, you know, partying and 00:03:43.090 --> 00:03:45.389 eating terrible food, all that good stuff. And, 00:03:45.530 --> 00:03:48.650 you know, like 19, 20 years old. And then I was 00:03:48.650 --> 00:03:51.449 a college athlete. So I was also just banging 00:03:51.449 --> 00:03:54.490 my head all the time and had one too many concussions 00:03:54.490 --> 00:03:58.129 when I was right after I was 21. Yeah, 21 years 00:03:58.129 --> 00:04:03.349 old. After my soccer career just ended and really 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:06.039 did everything wrong in the acute recovery phase, 00:04:06.699 --> 00:04:11.180 so was still playing sports, drinking, and not 00:04:11.180 --> 00:04:13.379 sleeping well. I just didn't do anything to recover, 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:15.259 because I really didn't know that I had a concussion. 00:04:15.699 --> 00:04:18.860 And I ended up making that situation really bad. 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:22.139 And I dealt with post -concussive syndrome for 00:04:22.139 --> 00:04:25.839 over a year, really like 15 months of really 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.060 bad daily headaches, extreme fatigue, couldn't 00:04:29.060 --> 00:04:33.779 exercise anymore. And I was... pretty depressed 00:04:33.779 --> 00:04:36.540 because I went from being an electrical engineering 00:04:36.540 --> 00:04:38.600 student, a college athlete, super high functioning 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.360 person to all of a sudden not being able to do 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.779 pretty much anything, having to sleep 12 hours 00:04:43.779 --> 00:04:47.579 a night. Luckily, I'm very stubborn and I didn't 00:04:47.579 --> 00:04:50.180 accept that as like my new normal. So in the 00:04:50.180 --> 00:04:54.860 summer of 2018, I really just started meditating 00:04:54.860 --> 00:04:59.620 and going down these rabbit holes because I realized 00:04:59.620 --> 00:05:02.480 that I was not accepting this as a 22 -year -old 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.139 as my new normal. And that summer, coincidentally 00:05:05.139 --> 00:05:08.740 enough, I was in Portland, Oregon, and I was 00:05:08.740 --> 00:05:11.579 spending a lot of time in nature on the weekends. 00:05:12.019 --> 00:05:15.040 And I realized when I was out in nature... Felt 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:17.740 better like my brain didn't feel as inflamed 00:05:17.740 --> 00:05:20.600 and I didn't even sleep as well as in a tent 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:23.040 I was hiking I was like physically exercising 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.759 and little did I know back then but You know 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:29.879 the no service no EMFs not staring at a screen 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:32.959 Just being out in the real world was profoundly 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.000 helpful for me to really just have a breakthrough 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:38.779 and then I started researching, reading books, 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:41.360 podcasts, et cetera, on how to heal the brain, 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.040 overall healthier lifestyles. So I just started 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.839 implementing a lot of things there and I started 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:50.379 feeling better. And throughout 2018 and 2019, 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:54.220 I made leaps and bounds of progress. I, you know... 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:57.620 cut out processed foods, was really deep into 00:05:57.620 --> 00:06:00.480 the stress management, sleep hygiene, taking 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.519 some supplements, actually took a lot of fish 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:06.000 oil, high potency DHA back then, which now I 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:08.620 know how important that is for brain health from 00:06:08.620 --> 00:06:12.759 a quantum perspective, which is cool. And just 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:16.139 kept progressing. And I graduated college and 00:06:16.139 --> 00:06:18.439 all of a sudden I had gone through this pretty 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:21.709 profound health journey and... I didn't really 00:06:21.709 --> 00:06:24.069 want to go back to that lifestyle I had before 00:06:24.069 --> 00:06:26.589 where I was working out a ton during the week 00:06:26.589 --> 00:06:29.829 and partying on the weekends. So I decided, hey, 00:06:29.990 --> 00:06:32.490 you know, I'm a young adult in the world. Health 00:06:32.490 --> 00:06:34.990 is like one of the most important things to have 00:06:34.990 --> 00:06:37.970 knowledge about. And it's clear as I was learning 00:06:37.970 --> 00:06:40.329 that there is all this misinformation out there 00:06:40.329 --> 00:06:44.750 and really so many of us were just misled and 00:06:44.750 --> 00:06:46.810 living unhealthy lifestyles and it could be really 00:06:46.810 --> 00:06:49.769 simple. So I kind of became obsessed with that. 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:52.899 And then COVID happened, of course, and I was 00:06:52.899 --> 00:06:56.639 very primed to have a perspective on that front 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.879 and just kept going down the rabbit holes of 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:01.980 regenerative agriculture, the food system at 00:07:01.980 --> 00:07:04.060 first. I got really into that. I wrote a book 00:07:04.060 --> 00:07:06.899 discussing kind of the issues of our food system 00:07:06.899 --> 00:07:10.879 and also tied in Bitcoin with that as well as 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.339 other passion of mine. And then after I closed 00:07:13.339 --> 00:07:17.939 that chapter up, really simultaneously continued 00:07:17.939 --> 00:07:20.720 to improve my lifestyle and felt better than 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:24.060 I did even before my concussions because I was 00:07:24.060 --> 00:07:26.480 spending more and more time outdoors and really 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:31.279 just a aligned lifestyle. I realized that my 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:33.819 degree in electrical engineering could be very 00:07:33.819 --> 00:07:36.920 pertinent to the discussion about biology and 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:40.000 health. And I was for years, you know, I bought 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.699 my first pair of blue blockers in 2018. I got 00:07:42.699 --> 00:07:45.420 a grounding mat, I think, for my birthday in 00:07:45.420 --> 00:07:48.399 early 2020. Like, I was turning my phone in airplane 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:51.740 mode for years, but I hadn't really gone deep 00:07:51.740 --> 00:07:54.819 down the rabbit hole. And as I got on social 00:07:54.819 --> 00:07:59.259 media for networking, promoting my book, I realized 00:07:59.259 --> 00:08:02.000 there was people talking about EMFs and light. 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:05.480 and these more electromagnetic aspects of our 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.100 biology and of the planet and of nature, and 00:08:09.100 --> 00:08:10.620 they didn't really know what they were talking 00:08:10.620 --> 00:08:14.259 about or they were using, you know, kind of terms 00:08:14.259 --> 00:08:16.860 that were very technical and they weren't explaining 00:08:16.860 --> 00:08:20.430 it well. So I realized that... with my background 00:08:20.430 --> 00:08:23.389 in electrical engineering, I could fill a gap 00:08:23.389 --> 00:08:27.410 or at least be a voice in this space. And the 00:08:27.410 --> 00:08:30.569 more I learned and kind of went down those paths, 00:08:30.610 --> 00:08:33.090 the more I started to come to the conclusion 00:08:33.090 --> 00:08:36.549 that the electromagnetic aspects of our biology 00:08:36.549 --> 00:08:40.110 might be the most important thing. And it's the 00:08:40.110 --> 00:08:44.450 most under discussed because it lacks tangibility 00:08:44.450 --> 00:08:47.230 and people really lack the foundational knowledge 00:08:47.230 --> 00:08:50.549 to even grasp it. And that's where now so much 00:08:50.549 --> 00:08:53.929 of my passion lies. And since then, I've, of 00:08:53.929 --> 00:08:58.509 course, just continued to learn and dial in my 00:08:58.509 --> 00:09:01.350 environment to the best I can given the state 00:09:01.350 --> 00:09:03.889 of our modern world. And then, of course, that 00:09:03.889 --> 00:09:07.610 led me to a podcast that I hosted and then to 00:09:07.610 --> 00:09:10.750 Daylight, which is really a dream job to help 00:09:10.750 --> 00:09:13.110 bring that to the world. So that's kind of the 00:09:13.110 --> 00:09:17.399 background story. And it's fun because I went 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:19.779 to school for electrical engineering, and I was 00:09:19.779 --> 00:09:22.360 not very passionate about it during schooling. 00:09:22.580 --> 00:09:24.620 And it's also one of the most challenging majors 00:09:24.620 --> 00:09:26.539 that you could do. And I got a bachelor's and 00:09:26.539 --> 00:09:29.720 master's degree and was a student athlete in 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:32.539 the library 40 hours a week. I hated my life. 00:09:32.860 --> 00:09:36.600 It was a grind. And it wasn't until recently 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:39.779 that I really had an appreciation for that knowledge 00:09:39.779 --> 00:09:43.740 and really ended up relearning a lot of the fundamentals. 00:09:44.269 --> 00:09:47.809 But I always had this fascination with it and 00:09:47.809 --> 00:09:51.070 I didn't know why or where that would apply. 00:09:51.450 --> 00:09:53.789 And only, you know, in the past couple of years 00:09:53.789 --> 00:09:57.929 has it became super clear in terms of the purpose 00:09:57.929 --> 00:10:01.970 of that. So it's a pretty great full circle moment 00:10:01.970 --> 00:10:06.210 for kind of what I left my adolescence to to 00:10:06.210 --> 00:10:10.889 focus on. It's hard to even dream about the path 00:10:10.889 --> 00:10:15.049 and the discovery that This led you to like you 00:10:15.049 --> 00:10:18.289 would have never dreamed of it. That's amazing 00:10:18.289 --> 00:10:24.110 story. So how did you get involved with daylight? 00:10:27.309 --> 00:10:31.129 Yeah, so funny enough, I and I don't know if 00:10:31.129 --> 00:10:33.909 you remember, but I had a podcast called Decentralized 00:10:33.909 --> 00:10:38.620 Radio and that's where I was just like. Really 00:10:38.620 --> 00:10:40.440 passionate about these topics starting to go 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.759 down reading all these scientific papers was 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:44.320 really in a regenerative bag I was really into 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:46.320 Bitcoin. I was really into health. I was like, 00:10:46.379 --> 00:10:49.399 no one's really talking about this intersection 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:53.080 of all these topics and So the podcast with a 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:55.039 friend and I just wanted to interview people 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:57.980 that I thought were interesting researchers farmers 00:10:57.980 --> 00:11:03.299 ranchers doctors, etc, and I spoke with dr. Jack 00:11:03.299 --> 00:11:09.090 Cruz in December of 2023 and I think I remember 00:11:09.090 --> 00:11:11.870 seeing him post about like something on his Instagram 00:11:11.870 --> 00:11:14.590 and didn't really look too much into it. And 00:11:14.590 --> 00:11:18.409 then he told me, he's like, you know, after we 00:11:18.409 --> 00:11:21.309 did our podcast, which is mostly about EMFs and 00:11:21.309 --> 00:11:23.990 he knew I was an engineer. He's like, you need 00:11:23.990 --> 00:11:26.190 to talk to Ungeon from daylight, like immediately. 00:11:26.289 --> 00:11:30.169 He's like, you guys need a link up and that needs 00:11:30.169 --> 00:11:32.129 to happen. So I was like, okay. And then reached 00:11:32.129 --> 00:11:35.809 out to Ungeon, had him on my podcast like two 00:11:35.809 --> 00:11:40.049 weeks later. And the website didn't have that 00:11:40.049 --> 00:11:41.649 much information. I was like, oh, this looks 00:11:41.649 --> 00:11:43.529 cool. Blue light, free computer, blah, blah, 00:11:43.590 --> 00:11:46.169 blah. But it didn't really click until halfway 00:11:46.169 --> 00:11:49.450 through my podcast with Ungeon, just how important 00:11:49.450 --> 00:11:51.669 this was. And it was clear to me. I was like, 00:11:51.669 --> 00:11:55.450 oh, this guy spent his whole life's work trying 00:11:55.450 --> 00:11:57.990 to build a healthier computer. And he's about 00:11:57.990 --> 00:12:00.370 to bring it to the market. And I was like, oh, 00:12:00.370 --> 00:12:03.309 my gosh. This is the most important company in 00:12:03.309 --> 00:12:05.809 the world, because I knew better than anyone. 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:08.200 The last two years I was spending more and more 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:10.539 time on social media, building a personal brand, 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:13.759 just being on the internet, and I actually started 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.120 to plateau in how I was feeling because I spent 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:19.159 more and more time on screen, on my phone, and 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.620 it didn't matter how much sun I got, how many 00:12:21.620 --> 00:12:25.039 steaks I ate, or how dialed in my house was for 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:28.899 EMFs. I was still on tech, and I couldn't swap 00:12:28.899 --> 00:12:32.259 out that tech for something healthier. Like, 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:34.669 I just couldn't. There's no... There's no option, 00:12:34.929 --> 00:12:36.330 you know, and we're talking about the biggest 00:12:36.330 --> 00:12:39.210 companies in the world. And ironically enough, 00:12:39.309 --> 00:12:41.210 you know, my background, I worked in the semiconductor 00:12:41.210 --> 00:12:43.549 industry and I went into the business side of 00:12:43.549 --> 00:12:45.309 things. So I was very familiar with the supply 00:12:45.309 --> 00:12:48.289 chain of electronics and just how that hardware 00:12:48.289 --> 00:12:51.570 world works. And then of course, because of my 00:12:51.570 --> 00:12:55.549 knowledge of health space and also building a 00:12:55.549 --> 00:12:58.659 brand on social media with marketing. Uh, it 00:12:58.659 --> 00:13:01.519 was really like the perfect culmination of, you 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:04.259 know, joining daylight. And I immediately stopped 00:13:04.259 --> 00:13:07.159 everything I was doing, uh, and, and jumped on 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:10.559 board and it was, it was, uh, it was a lot of 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:13.299 fun because I'd never worked for a startup. You 00:13:13.299 --> 00:13:16.019 know, you've learned so much in such a short 00:13:16.019 --> 00:13:19.039 period of time and now, you know, leading a lot 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:21.240 of things in the business. And it's really, I 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:23.879 think a great. partnership. It's a great team 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:27.039 that we have, but Ansh and I, very complimentary 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:31.039 and it's a lot of fun because again, I look back 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:34.399 at everything I've done in my life, study electrical 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.120 engineering, really into nature and health, worked 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.220 in the electronics industry, just... like the 00:13:40.220 --> 00:13:43.600 way I kind of, you know, I led teams and was 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.240 on a soccer team. So the startup world, although 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:49.100 it was so foreign to me, like actually has been 00:13:49.100 --> 00:13:51.580 a great fit for kind of just the experience I've 00:13:51.580 --> 00:13:53.860 had. So it's literally like everything I've done 00:13:53.860 --> 00:13:57.460 in my life has built up to this moment to ensuring 00:13:57.460 --> 00:14:00.460 that daylight is successful. And I truly believe 00:14:00.460 --> 00:14:06.960 that our success will. equal a much better world 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:10.080 for everyone because we're really in a dire state 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:12.960 I think with our relationship with technology 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:17.799 and especially the next generation it's it's 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:22.820 scary and I often forget that because I live 00:14:22.820 --> 00:14:25.500 in this bubble like I'm not even I've seen like 00:14:25.500 --> 00:14:30.399 10 people in the last you know days and I don't 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:32.899 interact often I mean I go to San Francisco where 00:14:32.899 --> 00:14:37.120 offices And it's a culture shock for me in the 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:40.320 moment, but I'm not in schools. I don't have 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:45.759 kids yet. And I think that we really have a window 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:49.440 to change this course that we're on with technology. 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:53.340 Else it may just get to a point where there's 00:14:53.340 --> 00:14:58.000 no turning back of how it's affecting us both 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:00.519 mentally and physically from a health perspective. 00:15:00.970 --> 00:15:03.549 Yeah, and I think we're very close. We're very 00:15:03.549 --> 00:15:06.789 close to that no return. It's almost like Daylight's 00:15:06.789 --> 00:15:09.990 the only hope right now. I've had John Colts 00:15:09.990 --> 00:15:16.250 from RF Safe on and just the EMFs are underrated. 00:15:17.850 --> 00:15:20.529 It's so fascinating too that you didn't allow 00:15:20.529 --> 00:15:23.049 yourself to settle. You were always pivoting 00:15:23.049 --> 00:15:25.009 and reaching for something higher. It's like 00:15:25.009 --> 00:15:30.240 your day mod. You call it day mod. Allowed you 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.000 I think that's the path that allowed you this 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:36.740 opportunity Can you go over some of the benefits 00:15:36.740 --> 00:15:40.200 of the DC one especially in comparison to other 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:45.019 big tech options? Absolutely, so and I don't 00:15:45.019 --> 00:15:46.759 know how many people watch video but I can pull 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:51.080 one out here. It's all dirty But you know, I 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:54.440 think starting with why technology is is not 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:58.059 great for us is is the easy point to begin and 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.379 For me, there's both physical like direct reasons 00:16:02.379 --> 00:16:04.759 and then there's indirect. And I'm going to start 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:08.639 with one of the major indirect ones is that it 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:13.919 keeps us indoors. Most people, unlike me, are 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:17.460 not working outside. And there's a reason for 00:16:17.460 --> 00:16:19.759 that is because the corporate office culture, 00:16:19.899 --> 00:16:22.879 I mean, physical workplaces, but also because 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:25.820 technology is not really designed to be used 00:16:25.820 --> 00:16:29.690 outside. The batteries die very quickly. It overheats 00:16:29.690 --> 00:16:32.669 very easily. You can't see it in the sun. It 00:16:32.669 --> 00:16:35.250 competes with nature. It doesn't work with it. 00:16:36.049 --> 00:16:39.049 So our transformation from an outdoor to an indoor 00:16:39.049 --> 00:16:42.309 species, in my opinion, is one of the main drivers 00:16:42.309 --> 00:16:47.409 of chronic disease. And it is because we evolved 00:16:47.409 --> 00:16:50.250 to live in the natural world, and I like to call 00:16:50.250 --> 00:16:53.529 it the real world. And the technology and the 00:16:53.529 --> 00:16:56.429 companies behind it, they have created an artificial 00:16:56.429 --> 00:16:59.610 reality. And I'm not even talking about the metaverse. 00:16:59.750 --> 00:17:03.049 I'm talking about just anything through the digital 00:17:03.049 --> 00:17:06.710 medium that we consume. It is an artificial reality. 00:17:07.309 --> 00:17:10.250 not physical, it's purely digital. As much as 00:17:10.250 --> 00:17:13.250 I like, love connecting through Face, through 00:17:13.250 --> 00:17:17.309 FaceTime or visual video chat here, like I'm 00:17:17.309 --> 00:17:20.230 seeing a pixelated version of you that happens 00:17:20.230 --> 00:17:23.940 to represent you. It's not really exactly. physically 00:17:23.940 --> 00:17:28.640 you. And that's something that is very foreign. 00:17:28.940 --> 00:17:32.420 And then it's removing us from these input signals 00:17:32.420 --> 00:17:36.339 that we were designed to take in and drive our 00:17:36.339 --> 00:17:40.119 biology. So the full spectrum of sun, the Earth's 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:43.579 natural geomagnetic field, the grounding you 00:17:43.579 --> 00:17:47.380 get from touching the Earth, of course, the greater 00:17:47.380 --> 00:17:52.019 ecosystem of Colors and sense and there's so 00:17:52.019 --> 00:17:54.279 many rabbit holes to go down there why nature 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:57.420 is really beneficial and it's not even beneficial 00:17:57.420 --> 00:18:01.980 This is like baseline It's only beneficial because 00:18:01.980 --> 00:18:04.900 it's lifting us up from where we're at now But 00:18:04.900 --> 00:18:07.059 in reality, this is just like what it should 00:18:07.059 --> 00:18:11.660 be. It's normal. It's only been touted as a benefit 00:18:11.660 --> 00:18:14.819 or healing because we're so sick and we're so 00:18:14.819 --> 00:18:17.559 sick because our indoor environments, they lack 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:20.680 these inputs. The light is distorted and now 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:24.220 it's been completely alienated away from full 00:18:24.220 --> 00:18:27.279 spectrum sun. The air is stagnant. There's no 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.460 negative ions that are very important. We're 00:18:30.460 --> 00:18:34.960 insulated. And then we have this high concentration 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:38.829 of non -native electromagnetic inputs from the 00:18:38.829 --> 00:18:42.450 Wi -Fi to the power frequencies to the blue light 00:18:42.450 --> 00:18:45.309 coming from the screen. And that gets into the 00:18:45.309 --> 00:18:48.250 direct kind of negative benefits of technology, 00:18:48.410 --> 00:18:52.190 right? That's the environment we're in. And that's 00:18:52.190 --> 00:18:55.069 not even to begin the device itself where the 00:18:55.069 --> 00:18:58.380 devices themselves. Yes, they are emitting radio 00:18:58.380 --> 00:19:02.319 frequencies. They have also DC magnetic fields 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:06.339 charging them, emits more dirty electricity, 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:10.480 electric fields, giving us an unnatural AC body 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:13.480 voltage and all these things, you know, hundreds, 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:15.720 hundreds, thousands of studies showing potential 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:20.200 and harmful biological effects. And then there's 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:23.500 really the big one, which is the light, the light 00:19:23.500 --> 00:19:29.309 from the screens themselves. are very, very different 00:19:29.309 --> 00:19:35.349 from light outside. And it's completely lacking 00:19:35.349 --> 00:19:41.269 in full spectrum colors and wavelengths. And 00:19:41.269 --> 00:19:44.849 it's very isolated in narrow bands of light, 00:19:45.130 --> 00:19:48.450 specifically in blue light and specifically lacking 00:19:48.450 --> 00:19:51.410 in like red and infrared. And for those that 00:19:51.410 --> 00:19:55.170 don't know, Infrared is the majority of sunlight. 00:19:55.309 --> 00:19:58.529 It's like 50 % to 55 % from an energetic perspective. 00:19:58.690 --> 00:20:01.089 From a photons per second perspective, upwards 00:20:01.089 --> 00:20:05.309 of 70 % of sunlight is infrared. And the infrared 00:20:05.309 --> 00:20:08.829 light is long, wavelengths, lower energy, and 00:20:08.829 --> 00:20:11.490 it really balances out the higher energy visible 00:20:11.490 --> 00:20:15.329 in ultraviolet wavelengths. So it's, as in nature, 00:20:15.869 --> 00:20:19.150 all things are more balanced and they're offset. 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:22.119 And they all have specific biological functions. 00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:25.279 So when you distort that, you're really distorting 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:28.680 the input signals that we need. So the devices 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:31.079 then, blue light and isolation has been shown 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:33.200 to harm mitochondrial function, especially in 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:35.880 our eyes and the retina. And then we look at 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:38.940 them at nighttime, and that disrupts our circadian 00:20:38.940 --> 00:20:43.599 rhythm. Blue light is the master signaler for 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:46.319 our circadian clocks. So then all of a sudden, 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:48.990 one of them One, if not the most important aspect 00:20:48.990 --> 00:20:51.569 of health is sleep because that's when we restore 00:20:51.569 --> 00:20:54.950 and repair the day's cellular damage is now completely 00:20:54.950 --> 00:20:58.230 being hijacked in terms of the quality of it 00:20:58.230 --> 00:21:01.690 because we are disrupting our circadian rhythms, 00:21:01.869 --> 00:21:03.910 suppressing the melatonin by staring at these 00:21:03.910 --> 00:21:07.890 devices and their screens. And we also have these 00:21:07.890 --> 00:21:11.769 non -native EMFs ongoing typically all night 00:21:11.769 --> 00:21:16.980 as well. And we wonder why. our cellular processes 00:21:16.980 --> 00:21:20.960 are really in a bad state and we're seeing chronic 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.599 disease younger and younger and that all to me 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:25.960 comes down to mitochondrial dysfunction as well 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:29.700 that's being passed on not only you know throughout 00:21:29.700 --> 00:21:32.299 someone's lifetime but generationally as well 00:21:32.299 --> 00:21:35.720 and and that's the scariest part and you know 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:39.819 potentially why things like autism are skyrocketing 00:21:39.819 --> 00:21:43.980 because we're passing on this mitochondrial heteroplasmy 00:21:44.940 --> 00:21:48.099 and everyone's starting off in a far worse place. 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:51.039 And when we're children, we're most susceptible 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:54.960 to all of these negative effects. So you take 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:57.500 that, and then you also consider that the light 00:21:57.500 --> 00:22:00.640 itself is flickering on and off to control brightness. 00:22:00.660 --> 00:22:04.460 That's yet another stressor, especially problematic 00:22:04.460 --> 00:22:06.920 for people with ASD or people with neurodivergent 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:09.960 symptoms, because it's so much more of another 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:12.960 stressor and stimuli affecting our brain and 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.640 eyes, and we don't even realize it. Until you 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:17.599 get home after a day's work and your eyes are 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:20.359 just so fatigued and tired and none of this is 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:22.880 really up for debate This is kind of been proven 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:26.660 and shown in studies even engineering Articles 00:22:26.660 --> 00:22:29.119 agree that this is the case. So that's where 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:33.440 we are. We have these and This is like facts 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:38.019 of science physics Then we get into the dopaminergic 00:22:38.019 --> 00:22:40.160 component of it. Like I don't even need to talk 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:43.930 that much about Everyone knows that your phones 00:22:43.930 --> 00:22:47.170 like you can't even put it down because another 00:22:47.170 --> 00:22:50.529 component of blue light Is that it's the most 00:22:50.529 --> 00:22:53.609 dopaminergic? Wavelength and that makes sense 00:22:53.609 --> 00:22:56.130 when you realize during the day like I'm outside 00:22:56.130 --> 00:22:59.269 right now There's so much blue light here. That's 00:22:59.269 --> 00:23:03.240 telling my body wake up go, go do things like 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:06.519 it's, it's reward seeking behavior. But now they've 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:08.839 concentrated that and put it into, you know, 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:12.000 a handheld device. And it's in reality, a Las 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:14.259 Vegas casino. So where we have all these bright 00:23:14.259 --> 00:23:16.640 flashing lights, it's cut off from the natural 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:19.960 world and we can't help but sit down and pull 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.980 the slots all day. And it's environmental design 00:23:22.980 --> 00:23:25.339 at the highest level with these big tech companies. 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:28.440 And when you realize that the entire economy 00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:32.599 is driven off attention now and consumerism and, 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:35.059 you know, these advertising, um, you know, companies 00:23:35.059 --> 00:23:38.099 like, like Metta, uh, it makes total sense as 00:23:38.099 --> 00:23:42.039 to why it's gotten so good that it's really impossible 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:45.359 almost to not fall in and not get sucked in. 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:49.299 And that's where we stand right now. We have 00:23:49.299 --> 00:23:55.920 the most important aspect of humanity is technology 00:23:55.920 --> 00:24:00.519 by far. And the most important aspect of technology 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:05.400 right now is devices. And we use them every single 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:08.500 day. The majority of our waking day, almost 90 00:24:08.500 --> 00:24:11.799 plus percent, no one is ever away from their 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:14.980 phone or away from their devices really for more 00:24:14.980 --> 00:24:18.400 than a few minutes a day now. That's how ubiquitous, 00:24:18.579 --> 00:24:21.519 that's how pervasive it is. Everything's done 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:24.440 through the digital medium. And it just so happens 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:28.140 that we have all of these detractions. So inherently 00:24:28.140 --> 00:24:32.900 we've become so much more distracted, so much 00:24:32.900 --> 00:24:35.500 less present, become less creative because we 00:24:35.500 --> 00:24:38.440 don't ever have down moments to just think and 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:41.059 ponder and reflect. I think overall we've become 00:24:41.059 --> 00:24:44.099 worse humans because we don't have moments to 00:24:44.099 --> 00:24:47.240 reflect. We lack empathy. We lack the ability 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:51.180 to have strong connections. We also just lack 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:55.400 the social skills anymore because everyone is 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.759 just conversating and connecting through a digital 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:03.839 medium, not a physical one anymore. And you see 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:07.240 that with the studies that have come out. It's 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:09.779 funny because I've I've researched a lot of this 00:25:09.779 --> 00:25:11.799 stuff historically, but now I've focused more 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.319 on screen time and kids due to our upcoming marketing 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:20.119 campaign and. You know this stuff is true and 00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:22.000 then you go and read the studies and you're like 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:25.039 This is so much worse than I thought like the 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:28.900 amount of screen time in Japan I think it's like 00:25:28.900 --> 00:25:31.359 a one -year -old's they did studies of one year 00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:34.700 olds and screen time and First kids on multiple 00:25:34.700 --> 00:25:37.079 hours a day of screen time, which isn't even 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:39.259 that crazy Just like a couple hours a day. This 00:25:39.259 --> 00:25:42.680 does happen like very commonly it was like a 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:46.880 5x magnitude increase of developmental delays 00:25:47.549 --> 00:25:50.750 Five X, we're not talking like five, 10, 50%, 00:25:50.750 --> 00:25:56.710 five fold. For five, six year olds spending more 00:25:56.710 --> 00:25:59.769 than two hours a day on devices with screen time, 00:26:01.210 --> 00:26:06.289 seven X increase risk of showing ADHD like symptoms. 00:26:06.349 --> 00:26:09.329 And I know you could probably debate, all young 00:26:09.329 --> 00:26:11.869 boys might show some ADHD type symptoms, but 00:26:11.869 --> 00:26:15.019 we're talking like. The far end we're talking 00:26:15.019 --> 00:26:18.720 about the the really noticeable Difference there 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.640 and it goes on and on like the executive function 00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:24.359 just gets hijacked of children from only watching 00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:27.720 a few minutes of content on one of these devices 00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:32.299 with the Content being extremely fast frame and 00:26:32.299 --> 00:26:35.180 switching like a cocoa melon or I mean any of 00:26:35.180 --> 00:26:38.079 the tick -tock reels or Instagram reels nowadays 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.160 a very fast frame and it's very concerning and 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:44.579 these aren't studies from some fringe researchers 00:26:44.579 --> 00:26:47.460 these are like the American Academy of Pediatrics 00:26:47.460 --> 00:26:53.099 and really well -known journals and it's scary 00:26:53.099 --> 00:26:57.980 because I think you look around and parents don't 00:26:57.980 --> 00:27:00.559 really know what to do they struggle they can't 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.680 lead by example because they live in a digital 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:06.220 world and then they're struggling as a parent. 00:27:06.380 --> 00:27:10.079 So it's really easy to hand a kid an iPad because 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:14.420 they just zoom in, they're gone. They're not, 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.160 if you give a kid an iPad, they're not, they're 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.359 not even present in that physical reality anymore. 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:23.900 They have been captured and that can be really 00:27:23.900 --> 00:27:25.839 helpful. Of course, you know, you're cooking, 00:27:26.299 --> 00:27:28.160 you're cleaning, you're doing chores, you're 00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:31.980 traveling. I get it. But the effects of doing 00:27:31.980 --> 00:27:35.539 so. It's a short -term benefit that's doing a 00:27:35.539 --> 00:27:38.619 lot of long -term damage to your child's development 00:27:38.619 --> 00:27:42.519 and psychology and really having unknown effects 00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:46.539 on their biological development. So that's really 00:27:46.539 --> 00:27:48.640 the state of affairs. I know I kind of went on 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.900 a tangent and really all at daylight that we've 00:27:51.900 --> 00:27:55.539 tried to do. is remove those detractions. So 00:27:55.539 --> 00:28:00.059 we have a monochrome display that you could explain 00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:04.579 as a kindle on steroids, but in reality, and 00:28:04.579 --> 00:28:06.940 it's a kindle on steroids because it's fast enough 00:28:06.940 --> 00:28:11.180 to now be used for anything. You can watch cocoa 00:28:11.180 --> 00:28:13.519 melon on here, but there's no bright colors. 00:28:13.619 --> 00:28:16.480 There's no dopaminergic reaction, and you can 00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:18.819 do it outside. There's no light being emitted 00:28:18.819 --> 00:28:21.680 from this at all. It's working with the sun. 00:28:21.779 --> 00:28:25.079 It's working with nature. Battery life's amazing 00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.019 because of that. So, all of a sudden, you've 00:28:28.019 --> 00:28:31.539 removed the Las Vegas casino from the environment 00:28:31.539 --> 00:28:36.000 that it's in and you've placed it outdoors or 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:39.579 you've placed it indoors with a candle lighting 00:28:39.579 --> 00:28:42.980 environment with our amber backlight that's blue 00:28:42.980 --> 00:28:46.220 light free and flicker free. You've changed the 00:28:46.220 --> 00:28:49.799 environmental design So now your Twitter feed 00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:53.400 looks like a digital newspaper, and it's a lot 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.819 less compelling. It's a lot less dopaminergic. 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:01.099 It's a lot less stimulating. So technology can 00:29:01.099 --> 00:29:04.799 just be what it was originally meant to be, which 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:09.960 is just a tool for learning, for communicating, 00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:15.380 for education. That's what this should be. It 00:29:15.380 --> 00:29:19.019 should augment the human experience, it should 00:29:19.019 --> 00:29:25.299 not detract from it. And that's the big shift, 00:29:25.299 --> 00:29:30.440 right? We really transformed as a species in 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:36.339 the last 20 years. And we now are, I mean, debatably 00:29:36.339 --> 00:29:41.279 cyborgs because we have technology, we have kind 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:45.599 of these devices attached at our hips at all 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.880 times. We are part technology. That's how connected 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.160 we are to these devices. But it's really bringing 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:57.339 us down. And that's the whole idea with Daylight, 00:29:57.339 --> 00:29:59.980 and the tablet is the first product. It's how 00:29:59.980 --> 00:30:03.299 do we bring the good from the digital, but keep 00:30:03.299 --> 00:30:06.900 it in somewhat of an analog experience, close 00:30:06.900 --> 00:30:11.359 to analog as possible, and allow you to have 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:16.619 the natural environment so that you aren't personally 00:30:16.619 --> 00:30:21.480 hijacked into this artificial reality and you 00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:24.279 can have the cognitive sovereignty over your 00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:31.440 own attention which is so hard nowadays and I 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:36.460 think the physical is the most underrated thing 00:30:36.460 --> 00:30:39.480 and that's where like physically writing your 00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:43.019 notes And it feels like paper on the daylight. 00:30:43.140 --> 00:30:46.119 That's what we tried to emulate. But it's convenient 00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.440 enough to throw in your backpack and you could 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.660 not have five notebooks, 10 textbooks. It's all 00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:55.720 just one thing. And if you do want to access 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.279 the internet, because don't get me wrong, I'm 00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:01.539 a big supporter of the digital minimalism movement. 00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.940 You know, the light phone, the whatever, just 00:31:04.940 --> 00:31:07.240 phones that don't even let you have any apps. 00:31:07.859 --> 00:31:12.119 But let's be real. Who's using that? That's a 00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:14.839 second phone. They might have I mean I have one 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.440 friend who I can only get in contact with via 00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.819 email and I envy him, but it's just not realistic 00:31:20.819 --> 00:31:23.559 like People aren't gonna give that up and why 00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:28.140 should they? Chat GBT if you use it AI tools 00:31:28.140 --> 00:31:31.059 for the right things I mean the amount you can 00:31:31.059 --> 00:31:35.500 learn now in such a short period of time is incredible 00:31:35.500 --> 00:31:41.859 the tools that exist But the problem is it's 00:31:41.859 --> 00:31:47.839 an absolute Wild West just Chaos scene when you 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.180 log on when you log on that's not even a thing 00:31:50.180 --> 00:31:53.799 anymore when you just get on a device you could 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:59.339 either learn the deepest depths of Biological 00:31:59.339 --> 00:32:02.099 function or the deepest depths of philosophy 00:32:02.099 --> 00:32:07.059 and psychology or what have you? But how many 00:32:07.059 --> 00:32:10.119 people are actually doing that with a large percentage 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:13.079 of their time spent on device most people end 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:17.460 up Consuming instead of learning and then they're 00:32:17.460 --> 00:32:20.759 really end up being the product and the device 00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:22.900 is learning from them as opposed to the other 00:32:22.900 --> 00:32:26.740 way around so we got it backwards and Then that 00:32:26.740 --> 00:32:29.940 algorithm just becomes that much better so Fred 00:32:30.009 --> 00:32:32.670 Daylight, we're like, hey, we want you to have 00:32:32.670 --> 00:32:35.009 access to this. Yeah, you can delete apps. Yeah, 00:32:35.009 --> 00:32:37.490 for the kids stuff, we will have parental controls. 00:32:37.529 --> 00:32:40.750 You can lock it down. Firm believer that children 00:32:40.750 --> 00:32:43.210 should not have access to the full internet and 00:32:43.210 --> 00:32:45.589 social media world until, well, they're not, 00:32:45.650 --> 00:32:48.869 they shouldn't, until they're not children. But 00:32:48.869 --> 00:32:51.349 there's still brilliant tools available for learning 00:32:51.349 --> 00:32:54.750 to kids. And then for adults, if you have a different 00:32:54.750 --> 00:32:57.369 environment, if you take the Las Vegas out of 00:32:57.369 --> 00:33:00.119 the tablet, you actually will be able to learn 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.660 more. You'll be able to get out of social media. 00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:07.500 You'll be able to just stay in a workflow and 00:33:07.500 --> 00:33:11.980 read something. And that's because we are also 00:33:11.980 --> 00:33:14.700 building the whole ecosystem, the whole stack, 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:18.660 not just the hardware, not just the display. 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.680 We're also working on the software. So notifications 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:26.500 and the context switching is going to be a thing 00:33:26.500 --> 00:33:30.519 of the past for for people on a daylight because 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.720 how could you possibly do your best, deepest 00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:36.279 work when you're constantly being pinged with 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.680 notifications or switching apps or toggling back 00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:43.700 and forth? It's not conducive to how our mind 00:33:43.700 --> 00:33:48.599 works. And that's why I really I'm concerned, 00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:51.359 Ryan, of the state of affairs with just people 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:56.259 right now. It's very, very hard to have a conversation 00:33:56.259 --> 00:34:01.029 of depth. It's all just this very high time preference, 00:34:01.210 --> 00:34:02.910 like what happened yesterday, what we need to 00:34:02.910 --> 00:34:05.829 do, head in the sand. They're at the ground level. 00:34:06.269 --> 00:34:09.730 And it's because we never ever have a free moment 00:34:09.730 --> 00:34:13.250 anymore. I mean, it's become a literal like, 00:34:13.329 --> 00:34:15.949 it's like a gym exercise at this point, like 00:34:15.949 --> 00:34:18.289 meditating or going for a walk without your phone. 00:34:18.570 --> 00:34:21.309 That's like an accomplishment. No, that's normal. 00:34:21.369 --> 00:34:24.329 That's just like how we should live. That's like, 00:34:24.530 --> 00:34:27.170 okay, I'm going to go for a walk and like think 00:34:27.170 --> 00:34:30.409 about my business or think about my relationships 00:34:30.409 --> 00:34:34.570 or think about just my trajectory in life or 00:34:34.570 --> 00:34:37.670 how life's going for me. That doesn't happen 00:34:37.670 --> 00:34:40.590 very often for most people anymore. And it's 00:34:40.590 --> 00:34:45.190 because every second you have of downtime, you 00:34:45.190 --> 00:34:48.219 can just go right here for some dopamine. you 00:34:48.219 --> 00:34:53.280 can just hit you take that next hit and I often 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.500 do that. It's really hard not to especially when 00:34:56.500 --> 00:34:59.800 you're busy and doing a lot of things makes you 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:03.199 feel relevant and connected and I find in general 00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:06.639 when you don't have a ton of in -person physical 00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:11.619 connections that is even a greater pull because 00:35:11.619 --> 00:35:15.460 you're it's supplement supplementing what's missing 00:35:15.460 --> 00:35:18.219 from your real life. And the problem is when 00:35:18.219 --> 00:35:21.179 everyone's doing that, it's going to be really 00:35:21.179 --> 00:35:23.420 hard to just have physical connection in the 00:35:23.420 --> 00:35:25.519 first place. So it's almost a self -fulfilling 00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:29.599 prophecy at that point. So our mission at Daylight 00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:34.320 to wrap up a very long rant is to create synergism 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.980 between humanity, nature, and technology. We 00:35:37.980 --> 00:35:40.440 don't think it has to be this doom and gloom 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:42.960 Wally future, but we sure think we're heading 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.360 that way if we don't make a deliberate kind of. 00:35:46.750 --> 00:35:50.989 Stick in the sand Charge against it. So I think 00:35:50.989 --> 00:35:53.550 it's been really exciting so far to see the adoption 00:35:53.550 --> 00:35:56.869 and we're really excited to focus more on on 00:35:56.869 --> 00:35:59.429 on kids talking to parents I don't even need 00:35:59.429 --> 00:36:03.389 to convince them that this is a problem and It 00:36:03.389 --> 00:36:07.309 feels really good to be pouring all my energy 00:36:07.309 --> 00:36:09.369 and effort into something that that matters a 00:36:09.369 --> 00:36:13.320 lot because as you can see I'd much rather be 00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.000 in the mountains every day, just like frolicking 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.659 around. But we got a mission here to really get 00:36:20.659 --> 00:36:23.780 this out there and inspire change in the community. 00:36:23.820 --> 00:36:26.079 And it's going to take a whole lot of us to do 00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:27.980 that. And that's why I always appreciate people 00:36:27.980 --> 00:36:30.159 who are hosting a podcast have their own community 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:35.059 about pushing this out there. Wow. So a couple 00:36:35.059 --> 00:36:39.320 of recaps. Just amazing. It's a huge testament. 00:36:39.739 --> 00:36:42.860 And we can see this whenever like a child is 00:36:42.860 --> 00:36:46.679 upset or misbehaving, you know, they're erratic, 00:36:46.980 --> 00:36:49.900 you give them a device and instantly they're 00:36:49.900 --> 00:36:52.820 like calmed down and like glued to it. That's 00:36:52.820 --> 00:36:54.860 how powerful this is because they're going from 00:36:54.860 --> 00:36:58.800 one state to the other and just like instantly. 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:02.780 And I'm glad you noticed or mentioned the casino 00:37:02.780 --> 00:37:06.719 because I think people can understand this. It's 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.980 not just the content. that we need to be aware 00:37:09.980 --> 00:37:14.139 of. They utilize these intermittent reward schedules 00:37:14.139 --> 00:37:17.639 is what it is. It's rewards without effort. And 00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:19.659 that gets us. And most people could probably 00:37:19.659 --> 00:37:22.340 understand that. But it's the light part that 00:37:22.340 --> 00:37:24.460 I think people miss because that's complicated 00:37:24.460 --> 00:37:28.460 for most. Unless you allow yourself to get in 00:37:28.460 --> 00:37:32.039 here and stay in this quantum physics, quantum 00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:36.250 biology range. And another thing that I really 00:37:36.250 --> 00:37:39.250 want to highlight is, because I suffer from this 00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:45.050 hugely, is data on autistic sensory processing 00:37:45.050 --> 00:37:50.269 is the early, let's say for the eyes, the event 00:37:50.269 --> 00:37:52.510 -related potentials is how they kind of measure 00:37:52.510 --> 00:37:56.630 this, EEGs, MEGs, or fMRI. It's really heightened. 00:37:56.789 --> 00:37:59.510 They call it heightened with autistics, meaning 00:37:59.510 --> 00:38:03.059 it's just hitting these early regions. much harder 00:38:03.059 --> 00:38:07.199 than typicals. So like the retina, lateral geniculate 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.719 endothalamus, and superior colliculus, these 00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.699 things are just lit up like at visuals stimuli 00:38:14.699 --> 00:38:18.900 versus typicals. And I battle with the eye strain. 00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:21.760 Like right now today, doing this, I'm like my 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:26.219 eyes hurt. And I don't like it. But you're right, 00:38:26.219 --> 00:38:29.420 there's no other alternative. But I've used the 00:38:29.420 --> 00:38:33.920 DC one, and I don't suffer from that. So I know 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:38.059 that it's like legit. So that's, I can't help 00:38:38.059 --> 00:38:41.639 but just highlight that because it's such a pleasure. 00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:44.719 And it's like rewarding. What do you what are 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.739 you looking at a MacBook or? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:38:47.820 --> 00:38:52.619 Yeah. I just being me suffering from concussions 00:38:52.619 --> 00:38:56.579 as well, like in the past, it's my iPhone was 00:38:56.579 --> 00:38:59.219 tormenting me. actually. Yeah, I can feel it. 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.760 My eyes are and I recently switched to an iPhone 00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:05.440 11 because that's uh that doesn't have as bad 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.599 a flicker and it's it's like once you cut this 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:12.619 stuff out, you notice it even more as well. Yeah. 00:39:12.619 --> 00:39:16.139 And I think that's another thing just to touch 00:39:16.139 --> 00:39:18.860 upon quickly that I've really been thinking a 00:39:18.860 --> 00:39:24.719 lot about is we have become so numb as a species. 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:27.559 And everyone always is like, yeah, no, you get 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:29.599 your health back and all this, you're more resilient. 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.320 It's like, yeah, you're more resilient. But in 00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.619 reality, what you're restoring is sensitivity. 00:39:35.139 --> 00:39:38.340 And sometimes that feels like you're maybe more 00:39:38.340 --> 00:39:41.440 susceptible to things or less resilient. But 00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:44.500 in reality, when you're more sensitive as a human, 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:46.579 and I'm not talking just emotionally, I'm talking 00:39:46.579 --> 00:39:49.019 like physically, spiritually, emotionally, the 00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:52.730 whole gamut, right? And that's what it means 00:39:52.730 --> 00:39:58.630 to be human is to be sensitive and able to perceive 00:39:58.630 --> 00:40:02.469 the signals and the stimuli in your environment. 00:40:02.610 --> 00:40:05.190 And that is what you feel like. People look at 00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:07.469 these screens all day and they're like, well, 00:40:07.469 --> 00:40:10.389 it doesn't bother me. And I'm just like, well, 00:40:10.489 --> 00:40:15.989 it should because you're numb and you're so desensitized. 00:40:16.030 --> 00:40:19.519 And that's why so many people are depressed because 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.519 they're getting all of that stimulus all of that 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.380 dopamine from their artificial reality and then 00:40:25.380 --> 00:40:28.699 everything outside looks gray and then they have 00:40:28.699 --> 00:40:31.380 no intuition they don't know what to do they're 00:40:31.380 --> 00:40:33.719 zombies i mean that's like literally the definition 00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:36.739 of like the mpc the non -player character is 00:40:36.739 --> 00:40:41.300 because they become so desensitized that their 00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:44.190 heads just at the ground level walking through 00:40:44.190 --> 00:40:47.130 life. And ignorance is bliss, don't get me wrong. 00:40:47.190 --> 00:40:50.309 But I think the real human experience is when 00:40:50.309 --> 00:40:55.090 you open up sensitivity and you can feel relationships. 00:40:55.130 --> 00:40:58.449 You can feel the environment around you. And 00:40:58.449 --> 00:41:01.429 unfortunately, that means you can feel the detriments 00:41:01.429 --> 00:41:06.489 of screens and EMFs and what have you. But that's 00:41:06.489 --> 00:41:11.349 what it means to be alive, is to feel. And I 00:41:11.349 --> 00:41:16.110 would... give anything to restore that to more 00:41:16.110 --> 00:41:18.489 people to experience that and understand that 00:41:18.489 --> 00:41:22.349 and that's why I'm off grid here in Wyoming and 00:41:22.349 --> 00:41:24.530 really deliberate because this is when I can 00:41:24.530 --> 00:41:28.889 feel the most is when the noise is quenched and 00:41:28.889 --> 00:41:33.150 the signal comes through crystal clear and that's 00:41:33.150 --> 00:41:35.610 where it's like I know what I'm meant to do I 00:41:35.610 --> 00:41:41.079 have the intuition of you know People that came 00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.199 before us you always hear these like Superpowers 00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.639 imagine it's not it's just like human intuitive 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:48.960 nature and there is a quantum physics component 00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:53.360 to that as well But you can't do that when you're 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.099 so desensitized it just it's it's it's not possible 00:41:57.099 --> 00:42:00.199 So I think that's I always like to touch upon 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:03.570 that because I think people It's easy to go down 00:42:03.570 --> 00:42:05.809 the negative rabbit hole of like everything's 00:42:05.809 --> 00:42:07.849 bad for us. It's so toxic now You're telling 00:42:07.849 --> 00:42:10.190 me my phone's killing me and whatever they're 00:42:10.190 --> 00:42:13.309 like, it's fine for me but in reality, it's like 00:42:13.309 --> 00:42:16.329 just take a step back and be realistic about 00:42:16.329 --> 00:42:19.030 it and think about like your day -to -day and 00:42:19.030 --> 00:42:21.789 how often you can reflect on these things and 00:42:21.789 --> 00:42:25.110 you know when you do cut stuff out is when you 00:42:25.110 --> 00:42:28.429 actually notice it and That to me is always the 00:42:28.429 --> 00:42:33.760 most potent way to experience it. Yeah, allowing 00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:37.179 yourself a little reset. I also wanted to mention 00:42:37.179 --> 00:42:41.519 from earlier with the health or the children, 00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.400 the rates of suicide are increasing at alarming 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.019 rates and at younger ages. And if you talk to 00:42:49.019 --> 00:42:51.019 people, they're just like, well, we don't have 00:42:51.019 --> 00:42:53.579 enough services or we don't have enough providers 00:42:53.579 --> 00:42:57.539 and things, but their environments are the cause. 00:42:57.820 --> 00:43:00.920 you can add a service or providers to each of 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.300 them and they're still going to be, you know, 00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.880 it's not going to be. It's not an upstream solution. 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.460 That's a downstream kind of safety net. That 00:43:10.460 --> 00:43:13.019 doesn't really work. That's a, that's harmful. 00:43:14.179 --> 00:43:16.420 Can you say a little bit more about the light 00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:20.840 flicker? Because, um, I'm, I'm kind of thinking 00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.219 of like the pupillary light reflex, which is, 00:43:24.219 --> 00:43:29.039 um, he ferrets for the The nervous system pathways 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.360 the the pupillary light reflex kind of bridges 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.440 the central nervous system with the peripheral 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:38.260 nervous system using motor neurons and Can you 00:43:38.260 --> 00:43:42.420 just say a little bit about? The light flickering 00:43:42.420 --> 00:43:44.739 yeah and pupillary reflex is one of the best 00:43:44.739 --> 00:43:47.460 ways to tell if someone's like Sympathetic dominant 00:43:47.460 --> 00:43:49.940 and really like has an activated nervous system 00:43:49.940 --> 00:43:53.639 if you don't know what that means But it's and 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:55.840 I know practitioners that that's one of the first 00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:00.550 things they do And light flicker is a very broad 00:44:00.550 --> 00:44:03.989 term. And it's basically just describing any 00:44:03.989 --> 00:44:08.829 light that has an inconsistent or changing amplitude 00:44:08.829 --> 00:44:13.849 of output. And it's not continuous. It's not 00:44:13.849 --> 00:44:18.510 just a straight line of a wave function. And 00:44:18.510 --> 00:44:23.130 that is important because in nature, it is continuous. 00:44:23.369 --> 00:44:28.199 It's not turning on and off. And that's basically 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:33.360 what's going on. And it's mostly from LEDs. No, 00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:35.559 a candle could flicker every now and then, but 00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:40.039 it's so slow that it's not a problem. And, you 00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:43.559 know, strobe lights, they flicker, but you see 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.860 it. You see the flicker, right? It's like 10s, 00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:50.380 20 times a second. And that can really be bad 00:44:50.380 --> 00:44:53.260 for people with epilepsy or prone to seizures. 00:44:54.750 --> 00:44:57.530 What's worse is when you reach a threshold where 00:44:57.530 --> 00:45:00.530 you can't see it anymore Yeah, and that's right 00:45:00.530 --> 00:45:03.670 around like a hundred times per second and our 00:45:03.670 --> 00:45:07.750 phones are are flickering at like 250 400 500 00:45:07.750 --> 00:45:13.190 times a second because OLED displays And most 00:45:13.190 --> 00:45:16.730 LEDs now they use what's called pulse width modulation 00:45:16.730 --> 00:45:21.650 to control brightness so engineers figured out 00:45:21.650 --> 00:45:24.940 that instead of controlling brightness by just 00:45:24.940 --> 00:45:29.400 pushing less current through a diode, you could 00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:34.239 instead cycle the diode on and off. And that's 00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.239 called a duty cycle, is the time on versus the 00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:41.039 time off. And the more time on, the brighter 00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:43.260 it would be, the more time off, the less bright 00:45:43.260 --> 00:45:45.599 it would be. And that is a more efficient way 00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:50.420 to control brightness. And then the color consistency 00:45:50.420 --> 00:45:54.070 of the display is better. because a diode is 00:45:54.070 --> 00:45:55.909 a semiconductor. And when you change the amount 00:45:55.909 --> 00:45:58.710 of current through a diode, you can intrinsically 00:45:58.710 --> 00:46:02.769 change the output of that semiconductor. And 00:46:02.769 --> 00:46:07.590 that is another downside to DC dimming, it's 00:46:07.590 --> 00:46:10.150 called, which is just like a normal way to do 00:46:10.150 --> 00:46:15.010 it. So now like 99 % of diodes, LEDs, I should 00:46:15.010 --> 00:46:18.989 say, are controlled via pulse width modulation. 00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.519 Pulse width modulation is used for everything. 00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:23.920 It's used for radio frequencies, like pulse signals, 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:28.659 modulated signals. That's the norm. And it's 00:46:28.659 --> 00:46:32.300 a shame because when you're operating in that 00:46:32.300 --> 00:46:35.440 frequency range of a couple hundred times per 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:40.019 second to even up to 5 ,000 times per second, 00:46:40.219 --> 00:46:43.719 it's very problematic. And the lower it is, the 00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.980 closer to visual perception it is, the worse 00:46:46.980 --> 00:46:51.849 it is for our brain. eyes because it's just above 00:46:51.849 --> 00:46:55.250 where you can't see it, but your brain feels 00:46:55.250 --> 00:46:58.849 it and They have a flicker index. It's an electrical 00:46:58.849 --> 00:47:01.309 engineering standard They have a whole scoring 00:47:01.309 --> 00:47:04.030 system and they've really done studies showing 00:47:04.030 --> 00:47:08.730 that until you get to like 10 20 ,000 Hertz or 00:47:08.730 --> 00:47:11.429 20 ,000 times per second that is turning on and 00:47:11.429 --> 00:47:17.260 off It's felt by the brain So they could use 00:47:17.260 --> 00:47:21.039 PWM and just make it really high switching frequency 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:24.239 But then that kind of defeats some of the engineering 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:27.380 benefits they get and and MacBooks are better 00:47:27.380 --> 00:47:31.679 than iPhones because of the display technology 00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:36.500 But it's it's really unnecessary and they could 00:47:36.500 --> 00:47:39.619 just use direct current dimming. So the daylight 00:47:39.619 --> 00:47:43.869 that's what we did change one circuit Sounds 00:47:43.869 --> 00:47:46.170 very simple and it is but when you're a small 00:47:46.170 --> 00:47:49.409 startup, it is a big challenge to do that and 00:47:49.409 --> 00:47:52.809 Yeah, it's just really dumb right because it's 00:47:52.809 --> 00:47:56.630 like we engineer technology without any biological 00:47:56.630 --> 00:47:59.969 thought in mind and the flicker stuff is is really 00:47:59.969 --> 00:48:02.809 frustrating because it's it's quite literally 00:48:02.809 --> 00:48:06.610 unnecessary and No one's really gaining any benefit 00:48:06.610 --> 00:48:08.829 from it. Like yes, you get a slightly better 00:48:08.829 --> 00:48:11.070 color consistency and maybe your battery life 00:48:11.070 --> 00:48:14.900 is is 5 % more efficient, like that's it. Wow, 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:18.739 okay. On the other side of that trade is debilitating 00:48:18.739 --> 00:48:21.260 headaches for people who are sensitive, eye strain, 00:48:21.420 --> 00:48:25.719 eye fatigue, aggravating symptoms in ASD people, 00:48:26.179 --> 00:48:29.820 anxiety. Wow, that seems like a terrible trade 00:48:29.820 --> 00:48:34.260 -off. Why are we doing that? It's because nobody 00:48:34.260 --> 00:48:39.190 knows. Nobody even knows this is a thing. And 00:48:39.190 --> 00:48:41.769 we put out some content for daylight and so many 00:48:41.769 --> 00:48:44.250 people are like, Oh, I had no idea. Like this 00:48:44.250 --> 00:48:48.409 is why this is giving me a headache. And you 00:48:48.409 --> 00:48:50.829 know, that's why I switched to an iPhone 11. 00:48:51.849 --> 00:48:55.010 I look at my old iPhone or someone gives me their 00:48:55.010 --> 00:48:58.610 phone. I have about 20 seconds before I got a 00:48:58.610 --> 00:49:01.510 headache. And I'm not kidding. And you can sound 00:49:01.510 --> 00:49:04.349 like an insane person when you say that, like 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.119 No, I literally can't look at those screens anymore. 00:49:08.139 --> 00:49:13.260 I can't look at OLED screens. And you might relate 00:49:13.260 --> 00:49:15.679 to that. People with TBIs, people with really 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.719 bad eye strain, and we've met these people. We've 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.000 gone to neuro -optometry conferences. They're 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.340 the most sensitive, right? Because they've had 00:49:22.340 --> 00:49:24.559 neurological damage or they have a neurological 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:29.000 condition. And I just want to tell people that 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:33.119 if they feel it and it's driving them insane, 00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:37.539 That means it's impacting you too. You just can't 00:49:37.539 --> 00:49:41.500 feel it to the degree So everyone would be better 00:49:41.500 --> 00:49:44.000 off everyone everyone's nervous system would 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:48.980 be less activated if we just got rid of flickering 00:49:48.980 --> 00:49:52.619 light and PWM the pulse width modulation is not 00:49:52.619 --> 00:49:55.539 the only form of flicker. It's the main one there 00:49:55.539 --> 00:49:59.659 are and we're we're still learning because There 00:49:59.659 --> 00:50:03.989 is like pixel level dithering or flickering where 00:50:03.989 --> 00:50:07.730 if you have like an 8 -bit display and again 00:50:07.730 --> 00:50:10.630 this is all like color mixing everything is trying 00:50:10.630 --> 00:50:16.230 to get the most bright saturated like vast spectrum 00:50:16.230 --> 00:50:19.369 of colors possible and there's only a limited 00:50:19.369 --> 00:50:22.030 amount of color combinations they can do so what 00:50:22.030 --> 00:50:25.250 they do is instead they dither or they flicker 00:50:25.250 --> 00:50:28.710 pixels in different colors like very quickly 00:50:29.019 --> 00:50:31.780 And you can look up pixel dithering or temporal 00:50:31.780 --> 00:50:36.139 dithering. And on some devices, it's very problematic. 00:50:36.219 --> 00:50:38.099 So even if you don't have pulse width modulation, 00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:40.780 you do have an inherent problem. And because 00:50:40.780 --> 00:50:42.679 the daylight computer is monochrome, that's not 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.340 an issue at all. But people who are really, really 00:50:45.340 --> 00:50:49.800 sensitive, again, they can't look at it. And 00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:53.639 any display, we have someone in our team who 00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.980 is like the highest level sensitivity person. 00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:01.159 and he's researching about how even some aspects 00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:03.440 of the daylight could be improved from like a 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.880 visual comfort perspective. So it's exciting 00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.539 because we're still learning. Like the daylight 00:51:09.539 --> 00:51:12.420 is so much better than a MacBook and an iPhone 00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:15.179 and normal displays, but there's still leaps 00:51:15.179 --> 00:51:17.840 and bounds to be made because even a daylight, 00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:21.679 even any display is unnatural, right? It is not 00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:24.940 the same type of light to be consumed as we are 00:51:24.940 --> 00:51:28.389 in nature. So how do we keep progressing? And 00:51:28.389 --> 00:51:30.769 it's funny because a lot of, you know, the displays 00:51:30.769 --> 00:51:33.250 from like 20 years ago were actually like the 00:51:33.250 --> 00:51:37.150 most, the least stimulating, the least problematic. 00:51:37.530 --> 00:51:39.110 So it's almost like we need to go backwards, 00:51:39.250 --> 00:51:41.610 which is kind of what we did at daylight, you 00:51:41.610 --> 00:51:44.269 know, going back to an LCD instead of, you know, 00:51:44.429 --> 00:51:48.610 moving forward with OLED. And it's like, we need 00:51:48.610 --> 00:51:52.889 to stop, take some steps back and then move forward 00:51:52.889 --> 00:51:55.659 in a better direction. And that's the analogy 00:51:55.659 --> 00:51:59.400 for all of technology. That's a great description. 00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.840 And I appreciate you highlighting that with the 00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:06.800 flickering and the pupillary light reflex. And 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:10.599 since I added with the heightened sensory processing, 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:14.860 the ocular motor is involved with the pupillary 00:52:14.860 --> 00:52:16.920 light reflex. And that's in the mesencephalon, 00:52:17.380 --> 00:52:22.000 the midbrain for the lay public. And that's huge 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:26.139 in autism. its roles were motor movement, sensory 00:52:26.139 --> 00:52:28.840 integration, and here's the one that because 00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:32.219 of what you were saying, it biases the attention 00:52:32.219 --> 00:52:34.539 of the living organism to the outside world. 00:52:35.019 --> 00:52:38.920 And since you hit on, you know, we're just isolated, 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.519 that is, I think, where it would be happening. 00:52:42.739 --> 00:52:45.539 That's a major area or region of interest, I 00:52:45.539 --> 00:52:48.559 think, is that that mesencephalon, the superior 00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:52.039 colliculus and that third cranial nerve is doing 00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.619 that. So I'm glad that we we went into detail 00:52:55.619 --> 00:53:00.699 there and since you mentioned Kids can you say 00:53:00.699 --> 00:53:03.079 a little bit about the the new initiative from 00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:07.420 daylight? Yeah Yeah, you know we really sat down 00:53:07.420 --> 00:53:10.420 I mean we've always been targeting parents for 00:53:10.420 --> 00:53:13.400 kids and really most passionate about that, but 00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:16.579 we really sat down. We're like, okay Where can 00:53:16.579 --> 00:53:19.130 we have the biggest impact? Where are people 00:53:19.130 --> 00:53:22.070 going to get this that need it most? And not 00:53:22.070 --> 00:53:24.610 only is that beneficial to the public, it's beneficial 00:53:24.610 --> 00:53:26.969 to us as a company. We need to grow. We need 00:53:26.969 --> 00:53:30.150 to sell units. Our gen one is amazing for those 00:53:30.150 --> 00:53:32.309 who get it. It's not amazing for those who don't 00:53:32.309 --> 00:53:36.010 get it. So let's not focus effort on trying to 00:53:36.010 --> 00:53:39.150 convince people of why they need something. When 00:53:39.150 --> 00:53:41.630 I've been talking to more teachers, more superintendents, 00:53:41.670 --> 00:53:44.989 more parents, I don't need to convince them that 00:53:44.989 --> 00:53:47.750 devices are a problem. They don't know what to 00:53:47.750 --> 00:53:50.760 do. They're looking for answers. They are so 00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:53.099 concerned. And you see they're banning smartphones 00:53:53.099 --> 00:53:56.719 in schools. iPad kids is a meme. They're guilt 00:53:56.719 --> 00:54:00.340 and parenting now. It's a conundrum. And special 00:54:00.340 --> 00:54:05.880 education specifically is, yeah, it's hard. It's 00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:08.940 really hard. So that was eye -opening for me. 00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:11.780 The other eye -opening thing was, I was talking 00:54:11.780 --> 00:54:13.559 to all these superintendents in New Hampshire, 00:54:14.099 --> 00:54:17.559 and... I had no idea kids were getting Chromebooks 00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:23.900 in kindergarten in some states. That's crazy. 00:54:24.900 --> 00:54:28.539 Six years old, their own device, and of course 00:54:28.539 --> 00:54:32.300 it's controlled and whatever, but that is, you're 00:54:32.300 --> 00:54:37.559 giving a child a portal to a new world when they 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:42.039 haven't even really got their feet set in the 00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:46.280 first world, in the real world. It's completely 00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:50.159 unnecessary. And that to me just shed light on 00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:52.900 really how dire this problem is becoming. But 00:54:52.900 --> 00:54:56.159 also in the same breath, all the superintendents 00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:59.300 were like, we don't even want this. We want to 00:54:59.300 --> 00:55:01.719 figure something else out. This happened during 00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:04.840 COVID and we don't really know what to do. And 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.519 yeah, they're like, what you guys are doing is 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:09.460 awesome. We want to figure out how to get it 00:55:09.460 --> 00:55:12.880 into schools. There's barriers to entry for public 00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.199 school, as you can imagine. So going direct to 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:18.039 parents first is easier. Homeschooling has become 00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:21.340 a massive trend as well. So we are definitely 00:55:21.340 --> 00:55:24.019 want to get in front of that audience because 00:55:24.019 --> 00:55:26.760 that's, I think, a key target customer. But you 00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:29.599 think about kids, right? You can nerd out on 00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:33.340 it and be like, really in the science. And I 00:55:33.340 --> 00:55:36.159 have done that. And it's crazy. Children let 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.300 50 % more blue light through their retinas because 00:55:39.300 --> 00:55:41.599 they're underdeveloped. They hold the devices 00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:44.099 three times closer to their body So now you're 00:55:44.099 --> 00:55:49.019 getting 50 % more blue light Threefold so wow 00:55:49.019 --> 00:55:53.579 all of a sudden That's 6x right the impact of 00:55:53.579 --> 00:55:57.340 blue light then their brains are not fully developed 00:55:57.340 --> 00:56:01.980 so they don't have the the frontal lobes the 00:56:01.980 --> 00:56:06.610 ability to actually pull themselves out of reality 00:56:06.610 --> 00:56:10.250 because they're still mapping reality. This is 00:56:10.250 --> 00:56:13.110 learning. This is curiosity. This is developing 00:56:13.110 --> 00:56:16.250 neural circuitry. And you've now given them something 00:56:16.250 --> 00:56:19.030 to develop in that is completely artificial and 00:56:19.030 --> 00:56:22.630 foreign. And you wonder why that leads to all 00:56:22.630 --> 00:56:25.349 these developmental delays. And you can get into 00:56:25.349 --> 00:56:28.110 the EMF piece, same thing, right? We're talking 00:56:28.110 --> 00:56:32.940 like 10 maybe. 50, 100 times, it depends on the 00:56:32.940 --> 00:56:36.719 age. For an infant, for something, someone, a 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:40.320 child under two years old, it could be 50 to 00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:44.940 100 times more sensitive to these inputs. For 00:56:44.940 --> 00:56:50.360 a toddler, dozens, 10, 20 times. For a young 00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:54.059 child, maybe five, 10 times. And then it goes 00:56:54.059 --> 00:56:57.440 slowly down, but it's still like fully developed 00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:01.059 brains, 25, fully myelinated. which is protecting 00:57:01.059 --> 00:57:05.320 them from these electromagnetic inputs. And fully 00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:08.840 developed retinas is also like adulthood. It's 00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:13.780 not like 15. So they're getting more light of 00:57:13.780 --> 00:57:16.480 the wrong kind. And why do you think that is? 00:57:16.500 --> 00:57:19.800 Why do you think it lets in more blue light? 00:57:20.179 --> 00:57:24.019 Because they need to build that neural circuitry. 00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:27.699 They need those dopaminergic responses, but they're 00:57:27.699 --> 00:57:32.010 supposed to get that from this environment, from 00:57:32.010 --> 00:57:35.869 outdoors, from falling on a hill, from riding 00:57:35.869 --> 00:57:39.769 a bike, from seeing something go by and being 00:57:39.769 --> 00:57:42.869 curious about it, that is the dopamine, that 00:57:42.869 --> 00:57:45.190 is the extra blue light, why they're getting 00:57:45.190 --> 00:57:50.949 it. It's not to hand them an iPad and to be so 00:57:50.949 --> 00:57:53.809 enthralled in cocoa melon that when you take 00:57:53.809 --> 00:57:57.869 it away from them, they... Throw the worst tantrum 00:57:57.869 --> 00:58:00.369 that you've ever seen and it just keeps getting 00:58:00.369 --> 00:58:04.170 worse and worse and worse and all of a sudden 00:58:04.170 --> 00:58:09.650 You don't really have a family anymore You have 00:58:09.650 --> 00:58:14.250 kids on devices that are rotten at the core due 00:58:14.250 --> 00:58:17.309 to new no fault of their own Unless they're on 00:58:17.309 --> 00:58:21.010 a device and you have disconnected parents and 00:58:21.010 --> 00:58:24.050 you have a family unit that is completely discombobulated 00:58:24.050 --> 00:58:26.610 and centered around this digital reality and 00:58:26.610 --> 00:58:34.269 world because you can't really extract it from 00:58:34.269 --> 00:58:38.170 the day to day anymore. And all of a sudden they're 00:58:38.170 --> 00:58:40.369 seven years old and they go to school and they're 00:58:40.369 --> 00:58:46.809 on these devices. So it's really scary. And I 00:58:46.809 --> 00:58:49.809 think what's really encouraging is that the awareness 00:58:49.809 --> 00:58:52.969 of this problem has grown because it's gotten 00:58:52.969 --> 00:58:56.949 so bad. And you see all these schools popping 00:58:56.949 --> 00:58:59.550 up, the homeschooling, the private schools, no 00:58:59.550 --> 00:59:03.550 tech till X age, and we're all for that. So we 00:59:03.550 --> 00:59:06.710 are in full support of delaying introduction 00:59:06.710 --> 00:59:11.010 to technology as long as possible. But as I mentioned 00:59:11.010 --> 00:59:14.690 earlier, it is extremely powerful tool if used 00:59:14.690 --> 00:59:18.530 responsibly. And that's what we're there for. 00:59:18.769 --> 00:59:21.469 So we think that the daylight is the perfect 00:59:21.469 --> 00:59:24.929 first device for a child. Now this doesn't mean 00:59:24.929 --> 00:59:27.150 that you buy a daylight and give it to your five 00:59:27.150 --> 00:59:29.690 year old for five hours a day. No, this means 00:59:29.690 --> 00:59:32.190 that if you have a five year old and you're ready 00:59:32.190 --> 00:59:35.369 to introduce them to technology, you have a daylight 00:59:35.369 --> 00:59:39.829 computer and you ease them into what it means 00:59:39.829 --> 00:59:43.309 to interact in a digital medium. They can write. 00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.599 notes on it. They can listen to songs on it. 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:50.179 They can learn a language. They can do the very 00:59:50.179 --> 00:59:57.679 basic stuff, but they can put it down. It's it's 00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:01.679 less attractive than playing in the backyard. 01:00:02.139 --> 01:00:05.139 It's less attractive than going to the swimming 01:00:05.139 --> 01:00:08.920 pool or the lake. It's less attractive than making 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:12.980 dinner with mom. That's point. And then when 01:00:12.980 --> 01:00:15.960 you are cleaning up, it's nighttime, they're 01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.239 ready to go to bed but you know, you could use 01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:23.239 20 minutes to do something, chores, emails, and 01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.500 you give a daylight to your son or daughter and 01:00:26.500 --> 01:00:30.019 put on some old cartoons as a winding down moment 01:00:30.019 --> 01:00:34.139 or they're reading on it and the amber backlight 01:00:34.139 --> 01:00:36.619 and parents have sent me literal pictures of 01:00:36.619 --> 01:00:39.800 their kids falling asleep on their daylight. 01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:45.420 That's what this is for. It's for kids to use 01:00:45.420 --> 01:00:52.659 when it's needed, not to become the main source 01:00:52.659 --> 01:00:56.360 of enjoyment of their childhood because if the 01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:58.300 main source of enjoyment of their childhood is 01:00:58.300 --> 01:01:02.679 a device, that means we're in a really bad state 01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:06.860 for parenting for the next generation because 01:01:06.860 --> 01:01:10.610 that means everything else. is less exciting 01:01:10.610 --> 01:01:15.710 than their iPad. And that's a world I don't wanna 01:01:15.710 --> 01:01:18.769 live in. And if I was a parent, I certainly would 01:01:18.769 --> 01:01:21.309 not wanna live in that. But I know it can be 01:01:21.309 --> 01:01:24.670 a real challenge, and I know parents are working 01:01:24.670 --> 01:01:28.110 really hard, but that's also the benefit of daylight. 01:01:28.389 --> 01:01:31.630 It's like, for when it's needed, there's something 01:01:31.630 --> 01:01:34.269 that's there. And as they get older, of course, 01:01:34.690 --> 01:01:37.989 you slowly increase the amount of time Spend 01:01:37.989 --> 01:01:40.710 in a digital world responsibly, but it should 01:01:40.710 --> 01:01:42.989 never take away from the play -based childhood 01:01:42.989 --> 01:01:45.610 from the outdoors based childhood from the family 01:01:45.610 --> 01:01:50.429 based childhood that is the core and that's what 01:01:50.429 --> 01:01:54.989 we need to return to and I Think it's real. It's 01:01:54.989 --> 01:01:56.469 really possible. I think the signs we're seeing 01:01:56.469 --> 01:01:59.429 is very encouraging and I'm excited to see how 01:01:59.429 --> 01:02:01.750 it goes I can't wait the feedback. We've gotten 01:02:01.750 --> 01:02:07.269 from parents so far has been fantastic and That 01:02:07.269 --> 01:02:10.329 especially for neurodivergent or special needs 01:02:10.329 --> 01:02:13.750 kids you even have your hands full even more 01:02:13.750 --> 01:02:18.150 So as a parent, so I think that's gonna be a 01:02:18.150 --> 01:02:22.789 very powerful tool But it will remain as a tool 01:02:22.789 --> 01:02:27.289 Yeah, okay, that's that's a great population. 01:02:27.570 --> 01:02:36.500 It's a great mission Tell me about The surprise 01:02:36.500 --> 01:02:39.199 mission from Danny Jones on Joe Rogan and what 01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:43.739 that smit to daylight I Think it's cool, you 01:02:43.739 --> 01:02:48.019 know It's just you know, we paid zero dollars 01:02:48.019 --> 01:02:52.199 for that right like Organic plug and that's what 01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:55.440 we we love right like Danny's great guy. He's 01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.320 a father He gets it and that's what it's gonna 01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:01.119 take. You know, we don't have a budget like Apple, 01:03:01.300 --> 01:03:03.639 we don't have a budget like Athletic Greens or 01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:06.039 whoever's sponsoring these big ass podcasts. 01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:11.159 This is gonna be an organic grassroots movement. 01:03:12.260 --> 01:03:14.340 And that's what we enjoy and we wanna get out 01:03:14.340 --> 01:03:16.119 and talk to people. That's why I love doing these 01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:20.760 podcasts because you hear it. That's what we're 01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:24.159 all about. We're not doing this to make money. 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:26.679 Obviously if it's successful, we inherently would 01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:29.159 make money and a lot of people would make money. 01:03:30.059 --> 01:03:32.780 we're doing this because it's needed and we are 01:03:32.780 --> 01:03:35.719 working our ass off. We have a very small team 01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:38.039 for a consumer hardware company. And when we 01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:40.460 get those moments like that being shout out on 01:03:40.460 --> 01:03:43.099 a big podcast, obviously it helps sales, but 01:03:43.099 --> 01:03:46.559 it kind of just like, wow, we're already, we're 01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:50.639 already there. We're already close. And I think 01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:52.760 there's just like, you know, activation energy 01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:54.880 that's required. And then something will end 01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:57.260 up running on its own legs. If it's good enough. 01:03:57.550 --> 01:04:00.449 And if the product market fit is there, and it's 01:04:00.449 --> 01:04:04.150 really at its core essence, a positive contribution 01:04:04.150 --> 01:04:08.190 to society. And I think we're very close to that. 01:04:08.190 --> 01:04:11.250 And I think our Daylight Kids initiative, which 01:04:11.250 --> 01:04:13.989 should be launched probably by the time this 01:04:13.989 --> 01:04:20.269 comes out, is gonna take us there because that's 01:04:20.269 --> 01:04:22.170 gonna be where we can have the highest impact. 01:04:23.929 --> 01:04:26.329 And it's gonna be a lot of fun because no one's 01:04:26.329 --> 01:04:30.110 come out. you know there's these cheap tablets 01:04:30.110 --> 01:04:32.269 that have like all these parental controls and 01:04:32.269 --> 01:04:35.130 they're safe and whatever but no one's really 01:04:35.130 --> 01:04:37.429 come out and made like a healthier device like 01:04:37.429 --> 01:04:46.429 at the core across all like areas of tech and 01:04:46.429 --> 01:04:51.750 the most exciting part is what we can do once 01:04:51.750 --> 01:04:54.570 we're successful enough you know you talk to 01:04:54.570 --> 01:04:58.820 John about RF I've talked to him. I want to reinvent 01:04:58.820 --> 01:05:01.739 wireless technology. I think it's possible. We 01:05:01.739 --> 01:05:05.219 could have Wi -Fi routers that have automatic 01:05:05.219 --> 01:05:08.579 shutoffs, like lower output power, be dynamic 01:05:08.579 --> 01:05:13.300 about it. We can do so much. We have custom LEDs. 01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:15.539 We're very close to the LED suppliers. We could 01:05:15.539 --> 01:05:18.539 do really great indoor lighting, complimentary 01:05:18.539 --> 01:05:22.539 to the daylight. We can do a whole lot of stuff. 01:05:22.989 --> 01:05:26.409 that really changes it to an environmental design 01:05:26.409 --> 01:05:29.590 company in a positive way. And I think that's 01:05:29.590 --> 01:05:33.889 what's most exciting is once we become successful 01:05:33.889 --> 01:05:37.909 enough, we can really increase the surface areas 01:05:37.909 --> 01:05:41.170 that we're on, do next -gen products, of course, 01:05:41.309 --> 01:05:44.730 new tablet, monitor's been heavily requested, 01:05:44.829 --> 01:05:46.869 phone's been heavily requested, all these things. 01:05:47.789 --> 01:05:52.039 And we think they're all great ideas. And it's 01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:54.440 just a matter of time. So that's probably the 01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:58.599 most exciting piece. Yeah. I pictured a daylight 01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:06.000 phone and I got excited about that. Let people 01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:09.360 know how to get in contact with daylight or how 01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:12.380 to search for your product. Yeah, so our main 01:06:12.380 --> 01:06:15.159 website is dailycomputer .com. If you're a parent 01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:17.840 and have kiddos, it's going to be kids .dailycomputer 01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:21.320 .com. That will be launched on August 28th, I 01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:24.099 believe, if all things go well in the next week. 01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:30.019 And yeah, socials, we are at Daylight Co. And 01:06:30.019 --> 01:06:33.119 yeah, if you want to follow me, I'm at Tristan 01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:35.559 underscore health and Instagram at Bitcoin and 01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:38.619 underscore beef on Twitter. But check out our 01:06:38.619 --> 01:06:41.489 website. you know, this doesn't become successful 01:06:41.489 --> 01:06:44.889 unless we have this big word of mouth kind of 01:06:44.889 --> 01:06:46.889 acceleration in terms of spreading the word. 01:06:47.210 --> 01:06:50.710 So implore you to, you know, test, try it out. 01:06:50.849 --> 01:06:53.329 We're often doing demos, events, et cetera, follow 01:06:53.329 --> 01:06:56.750 us on socials for that. And then spreading the 01:06:56.750 --> 01:06:59.389 word in the community and sharing feedback. So 01:06:59.389 --> 01:07:01.670 you can always contact us. Hello at dailycomputer 01:07:01.670 --> 01:07:05.690 .com as well. The best marketing tools, word 01:07:05.690 --> 01:07:09.199 of mouth and positive feedback. And it's great 01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:13.320 stuff. Well, thanks a lot, Tristan. And I'll 01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:15.320 let you get back to nature. And I'm kind of jealous 01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:17.519 of it. So I'm like, I got to get back to work. 01:07:17.579 --> 01:07:20.940 So don't worry. Yeah, because but thanks so much, 01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:23.519 Ryan. It's great to great to connect. I appreciate 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:26.519 giving me a chance to talk about it all. Yeah, 01:07:26.619 --> 01:07:29.019 I appreciate your movement and missionary here. 01:07:29.380 --> 01:07:34.380 So good luck with everything. Thank you. I would 01:07:34.380 --> 01:07:36.960 like to take a moment. and mention a pressing 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:43.440 issue we are seeing in our modern world and that 01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:49.219 is tech use and tech light. The data are impressive 01:07:49.219 --> 01:07:54.500 and concerning on isolated wavelengths of light 01:07:54.500 --> 01:07:59.519 especially shorter wavelengths which is blue 01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:05.019 light. For those that don't know we have chromophores. 01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:09.480 which are special proteins that absorbs specific 01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:14.400 wavelengths of light. For blue light, the light 01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:18.779 that is LED light and tech light, that protein 01:08:18.779 --> 01:08:24.600 is called melanopsin. Melanopsin is responsible 01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:29.840 for our circadian biology, physiology and cell 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:35.000 functioning, hormone regulation, and even a connection 01:08:35.130 --> 01:08:41.350 to an area huge for mood. A consideration we 01:08:41.350 --> 01:08:45.750 should include is this protein was not even discovered 01:08:45.750 --> 01:08:52.449 until 1998. It seems important for us to understand 01:08:52.449 --> 01:08:57.050 how our biology uses the different wavelengths 01:08:57.050 --> 01:09:01.770 of light for various aspects of our biology. 01:09:03.229 --> 01:09:07.220 This blue light chromophore is our master controller, 01:09:08.300 --> 01:09:12.539 our master clock. Remember, circadian rhythm 01:09:12.539 --> 01:09:17.439 is a two -part process, two independent parts, 01:09:18.420 --> 01:09:24.579 light and dark. For a quick reference, see the 01:09:24.579 --> 01:09:29.340 2017 Nobel Prize in Physiology and Medicine. 01:09:30.420 --> 01:09:33.699 But for now, I have something exciting. I want 01:09:33.699 --> 01:09:36.500 to introduce a product unlike any other product 01:09:36.500 --> 01:09:42.220 available. A highlight is the product from Daylight 01:09:42.220 --> 01:09:45.500 Computer Company created their product based 01:09:45.500 --> 01:09:51.159 on these factors. The Daylight Computer is completely 01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:56.659 blue light free. It has no flicker. Short wavelength 01:09:56.659 --> 01:10:01.260 flicker is extremely harmful for our eyes and 01:10:01.260 --> 01:10:05.069 downstream biology. light flicker is constantly 01:10:05.069 --> 01:10:09.130 turning our central nervous system on and off. 01:10:09.449 --> 01:10:13.069 Essentially it is like going to a light switch 01:10:13.069 --> 01:10:17.470 and repeatedly turning it on and off. The problem 01:10:17.470 --> 01:10:23.489 is blue light and LED light does this and it 01:10:23.489 --> 01:10:26.770 is so rapid you cannot even perceive this in 01:10:26.770 --> 01:10:32.229 real time. The daylight computer is the lowest 01:10:32.229 --> 01:10:36.189 stimulation and foremost for sensory sensitive 01:10:36.189 --> 01:10:41.449 users. It is no question that the alternative 01:10:41.449 --> 01:10:46.750 product especially when used at night do not 01:10:46.750 --> 01:10:51.170 address or consider this in their product. It 01:10:51.170 --> 01:10:56.090 is so toxic to human biology. Big tech corporations 01:10:56.090 --> 01:11:00.810 have patents on how their short wavelength implicate 01:11:00.699 --> 01:11:06.439 the human nervous system. And a bonus, despite 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:10.579 daylight computer not having backlight, it is 01:11:10.579 --> 01:11:14.979 very functional for outdoor use. And of course, 01:11:15.699 --> 01:11:20.760 increased sunlight is always preferred. I am 01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:24.159 happy to offer a discount for the daylight computer. 01:11:24.779 --> 01:11:30.239 You can use the code AUTISM for a $25 off coupon. 01:11:31.500 --> 01:11:36.159 Again, use the code AUTISM in the discount code 01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:41.359 for $25 off. 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