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My guest today is Katie Asher. Katie is a devoted

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mother of five, widely recognized for her unwavering

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commitment to her son Houston, who has severe

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autism and her faith in God. She founded Asher

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House to support families affected by autism,

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drawing from her own experiences navigating trauma,

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loss, and abuse. Her faith -driven journey led

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to a breakthrough when Houston, after years of

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nonverbal communication, found his voice through

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letter boards using spelling to communicate.

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Katie also explores telepathy, a discovery she

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credits with transforming her worldview and deepening

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her connection with Houston and with herself

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and with God. Their story inspired their co -authored

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book, The Book of Heaven. Katie's resilience

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and advocacy make her a beacon of hope, empowering

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parents to pursue competency in their non -speaking

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children and fostering a community of connection

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and hope. And now, my conversation with Katie

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Asher. Can we just start with... Are you telling

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us a little bit of your backstory and what autism

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means to you? Okay, so the first time I ever

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heard of autism was I watched Rain Man. That

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was the first time I'd ever heard of it. I was

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16 years old and I went to the theater with my

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boyfriend and it was just so... such an incredibly

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frustrating but extraordinary human experience.

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And I had no idea and never even imagined in

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a million years that that would be my life. My

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son Houston is my second of five kids and I'm

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now a single mother and it was a very abusive

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relationship. my marriage so I had to get out

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and not terrified me because I had all five kids

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and Houston severe autism and I Didn't know how

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we were gonna make it. I my background is I grew

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up just with a really strong and deep abiding

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faith in Jesus Christ as my Savior and that Sustained

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me throughout a very painful childhood And as

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I got older and was in this very difficult relationship,

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and then with my son regressing into severe autism

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after his vaccines, my faith was radically and

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utterly crushed. And I kept trying to cling to

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all the promises of God. In particular, all things

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work together for the good of those who love

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God who are called according to His purpose.

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Imagine trying to cling to that verse while you're

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scrubbing feces five to eight times a day out

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of the carpet or the walls or the bed or the

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books or whatever it's been smeared on. It's

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not nice feces, it's like... Bloody, diuretic,

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acidic, foul -smelling stuff that I don't even

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know that a human body could produce. Clearly

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something was wrong with him, and the doctors

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didn't care. It was like, oh, you have this diagnosis,

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so now we don't have to treat you for anything.

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No matter how medical, the obvious, this is a

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medical issue, we don't have to take care of

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you. because you have a disability. And that

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is how the medical community treats people with

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profound disabilities. And it's completely unethical

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and has to stop. It has to be addressed. There's

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so many wrongs that these families have to deal

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with by society, by the institutions. And I'm

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over trying to pretend like they're experts or

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they're good people. They're not. They're not

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either. When you refuse to heal and refuse to

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care and continue to tell a lie, you've lost

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all status of any of any expertise or stature

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in society or any right to speak on any authority.

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You've lost it. It's gone. You do not have my

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respect. So that's how I feel about that. We

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lived in I'm trying to kind of sum this up so

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I don't take to but a severe, you know regression

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into this, you know Hellish world of symptoms

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with no sleep You know smearing feces Screaming

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crying always hands over his ears naked all the

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time couldn't stop eating and drinking running

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and throwing themselves in a body of water constant

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near -death experiences, eloping constantly,

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almost drowning, being hit by a truck at age

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three, you know, sores all over his body that

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again, no one would treat, no one would take

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care of him. And I'm just still in there trying

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to figure this out on my own. Just trying to

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do all the work, just like read, here I am, I'm

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like five kids, severe autism, abusive ex -husband

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reading medical journals. Like, this is my life.

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This is how I learned about autism. You want

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to know how I learned about autism? I read. I

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lived. I couldn't care less what those people

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say. I know what I'm talking about. And so that

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was my life. And we were told every year, once

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you get to, so it sounds all great, right? It

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starts with the Babies Can't Wait program. So,

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oh. You're a kid struggling to speak. Let's get

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them in the babies can't wait program What you

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don't know is that you've now entered in without

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really realizing it you've now entered into a

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totally separate educational track Without really

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it comes under the term of help But it's not

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it's a totally separate track They give you minimal

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resources, but they basically put you and very

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quickly into a special ed preschool to help and

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then they start doing ABA. ABA is the absolute

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worst possible thing you could possibly do to

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someone with a motor impairment. And that's what

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people don't understand is that these children

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with profound vaccine injuries, their motor is

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impaired. Every single function of their motor

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is impaired. They can't motor plan. They can't

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feel their body. That's the vestibular system.

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The proprioceptive system doesn't work. The sensory

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motor don't integrate. That's because the encephalopathy

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interferes with sensory motor integration. The

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sensory synapses don't prune. The sensory motor

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don't integrate. They're taking in everything.

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And they don't have the ability to motor plan.

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So this is a motor impairment. And then they

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use motor -based tests to test their intelligence.

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or they call them assessments, but they're IQ

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tests. And they basically say, look at all the

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things he can't do. Oh, so we've got to re -teach

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them all these different things. And we've got

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to drill them over and over and over on the same

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thing. What you're doing is you're actually myelinating

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motor pathways, not for what the individual wants

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to say, but what for the tester wants them to

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do. So you've just now, and then they say, that's

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all their real communication. That's all their

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real voice is essentially what you've myelinated.

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is absolutely nothing to do with intentional

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motor. It's only what they've myelinated. So

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now that you're in this track of you're not smart,

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you get put in an isolated self -contained classroom

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and taught the exact same colors, calendar, coins

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for 18 years. You're isolated from everyone.

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You never get a voice. You never get to participate

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in society. You never get to make friends. Then

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you graduate. You have no skills, no education,

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no friends, no education, musical enrichment,

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art, sports. You've never been taught anything.

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You're released with nothing. They don't even

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give you a diploma. You get a certificate of

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completion. It's not a real diploma. And now

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you're prepared to do nothing. And oh, because

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you've done this, you've been in this track.

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We're going, because now you can't speak, we're

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going to tell your children or your parents to

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take guardianship and we're going to encourage

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them to put you in a home or a day program. So

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now you're jailed. You spent your whole life

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in jail and then your whole future in jail. And

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this is not, this isn't figurative, this isn't...

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This is literally what's happening to 2 million

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children and young adults in this country, not

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to mention the other countries. So I feel extremely

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strongly. And then we have these ABA communities

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come in. By the way, the ABA industry is worth

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$7 .62 billion and they work directly with ASHA.

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ASHA is the speech licensing organization who

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is worth $174 million in assets. They have absolutely

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no authority whatsoever. All they do is approve

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licenses for speech pathologists. And this organization

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has basically come in and said, we don't believe

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in spelling. We don't believe in this. We're

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going to say it's not a valid form of communication.

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And the schools, because they don't want to pay,

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For retraining and basically admitting that they've

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denied all these children education for Can you

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imagine that civil rights violation? So they

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come in and they're like, it's not a valid form

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of communication Asha said so Asha has no no

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authority whatsoever. The schools are supposed

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to be following the ADA They're supposed to be

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following the law which says that an institution

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a public institution has to follow the communication

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choice of the person with the disability. There

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are multiple statutes within the law that designate

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that the person with the disability gets to choose

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their communication and the institution has to

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follow their choice. They completely disregard

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the law and they take in this non -government

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agency and say, well, they said it, so that's

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what it is. Not recognizing that this agency

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has got a lucrative reason to not acknowledge

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the competence of these individuals. Profits.

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It's profits over humanity. It's always profit.

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And, um, and ABA, by the way, gets paid, they

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get to charge 40 hours a week, billable hours

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to insurance companies. Why your insurance company

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or policy so high? ABA is one of the reasons.

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And they do not want spelling, um, acknowledged

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or admitted because it would prove their entire

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concept of behavior wrong. So this is important

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to understand. If you have a motor impairment,

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like we look and we observe people behaving a

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certain way, right? And we put meaning on it.

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We all do this. This is kind of just like we

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observe, we put meaning on it. Okay. But if you

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have a motor impairment, And essentially, it's

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like your body's turned on, but there's no one

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piloting it. How can you be held responsible?

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And how can that be a legitimate test of your

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intelligence? Which, by the way, we should never

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be testing anyway. That's completely unethical.

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The idea that your rights are somehow linked

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to your intelligence, where is that? That's powerful.

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Yeah. But that's what they've done. They've taken

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these tests and they've said you get rights equal

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to what we say your intelligence is and we're

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going to use your disability to measure your

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intelligence. I don't even believe in intelligence

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anymore. I think we all have aptitudes. I think

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every human being is brilliant and beautiful

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and wonderful and we all have different ways

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of maneuvering our body and different things

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that we're passionate about and giftings, but

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that doesn't make one person smart and another

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person not smart. I mean, I always go back to

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Forrest Gump, stupid is as stupid does. I see

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a whole lot of stupid out there with people who

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say they're smart. I rarely do this, but you

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posted it on X from the 15th day of Autism Awareness

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Month on intelligence. I'm going to just read

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it. Intelligence is the ability to understand

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and process information, not the ability to demonstrate

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it to other people for them to put a score on

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your mind and worth. Yeah. That is so powerful.

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Yeah. And accurate. Yeah. And they gave my son,

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they gave my son with a severe motor and sensory

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impairment. Well, I wouldn't say his sensory

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is impaired, his sensory is over. His sensory

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is extra sensory and his motor's impaired, which

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is a bad disconnect. But basically they gave

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him an IQ score 45 at 18, age 18. He sat there

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like within two years later when he was spelling

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and he was doing integrals and calculus. I'm

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sorry, but your tests are broken. They're horrific

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way to measure what is going on in the mind of

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another human being and these all go back all

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these IQ tests go back to the progressive era

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when social science came into being and this

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was a result of Darwinism and they thought oh

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oh wow okay natural selection well we'll we'll

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select we don't need to naturally select we're

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going to do it ourselves we're going to decide

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these social scientists created who they felt

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was they saw who they thought would be good for

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society and they wanted this pure society without

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problems and so they began this process of identifying

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um testing isolating and then sterilizing in

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some cases euthanizing And this, of course, reached

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a heightened test or, you know, case where not

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test, I mean, they were actually doing it, but

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in, you know, in the Nazi regime. That started

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in the United States and in the Scandinavian

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countries. That's where that started. Not surprised.

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How old was Houston? You mentioned that. Was

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there a certain vaccination schedule that? happened.

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So the very first one that caused it was the

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DTP Hib shot. By the way, this is the live DTP

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Hib. Now it's called DTAP, which is a less dangerous

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form of the very dangerous DTP shot. So this

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was the actual shot that Congress or these big

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pharma basically went to. They went to Congress

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and said, we can't make vaccines safe. There's

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no way to make them safe. So the idea that they

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say vaccines are safe is ridiculous. That's literally

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why they were given immunity, is because they

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couldn't make them safe. They brainwashed people

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to think that. It was just a big lie. But the

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reason why they were was because they were having

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all these lawsuits and they were losing because

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people were getting, children were getting horrifically

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injured by the DTP shot, the very same one that

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injured my son. This is when it started. Now,

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what people don't realize is that, like this

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wasn't even, so when people are like, no, it

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wasn't, I'm like, well, first of all, I was there.

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So I get to say what happened and what didn't

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happen. And secondly, we, He started breaking

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out in petechia everywhere. I was like, what's

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this? I thought it was like a rash. I take him

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there. I call the doctor thinking it's nothing.

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And they're like, rush him to the doctor's office.

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They immediately admitted him into the hospital.

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And they said he has immune thrive. I want you

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to listen to the words in here. Immune thrombocytopenic

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purpura. Okay. That's really important. And there's

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the cytopenic purpura. Okay. The cyto in particular.

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Okay. So you've got this immune thrombocytopenic

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proprio, which is an autoimmune disease where

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he started killing off all his blood platelets.

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She says, this is a vaccine entry. It was either,

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they were not sure if it was leukemia or this

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ITP. It was the ITP. She said, this is a vaccine

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entry. What you have to understand is this is

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before the big pharma. push against pediatricians

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and doctors acknowledging that. So that had not

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happened yet. This was 1997. So that happens.

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We don't know the effect of it. He continued

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to get the petechia. We were giving him gamma

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globulin. We're doing all these things, but we

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didn't realize what had actually started. And

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when we came to the next vaccine, And he did

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start, I will say he did start at that time to

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start to regress. But he was also, it was like

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weird because he's like regressing and progressing

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at the same time. So it was like, he's losing

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some skills, but he's still developing others.

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So it was, it was kind of hard to figure out

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like what's going on. And, and plus he's still

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really little because that was eight months old.

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And the very first thing I ever noticed was he

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suddenly lost the ability to clap. Midline. Something

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had happened. He literally was like, and he'd

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lost that ability. And then I was trying to play,

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like roll a ball back and forth with him and

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roll the ball to him. And it was like, he couldn't

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push it back to me. Now I know I didn't at the

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time because I was just a young mom. I didn't

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know that. What I was witnessing was a motor

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dysfunction, where something was wrong in the

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motor. Well, when we go to the next shot, I told

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the doctor, I really am scared of this, considering

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what just happened. I don't think this is a good

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idea. And he goes, this is my big safety net

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right here. That was a fluke. He'll be fine.

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That's what I got. And so I stupidly didn't listen

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to myself. And I listened to this doctor who

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does not know what he's talking about and got

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an MMR. And that's where people start seeing

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these massive regressions. And that's where that

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was when all the rashes, the horrific rashes

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and the diarrhea and all the gut issues started

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was there. It was bad. But I know it had already

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started with the first one and I think that the

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MMR just basically like and what what really

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what you have to realize what happens is The

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most dangerous thing and we don't have to talk

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about this if you don't want to I can move on

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to something else So the aluminum in the vaccine,

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okay, it has an atomic number of 13 That okay.

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So with it the way electrons work, right? See,

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I actually know what I'm talking about. I actually

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went and had to study chemistry because people

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who are supposed to be the experts won't actually

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teach us what the information is. Aluminum is

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the adjuvant that they put in these vaccines.

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And they do this, if you go and look on Wikipedia,

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you can actually see aluminum is used to essentially

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stimulate the immune system. How does it do that?

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The atomic number is 13. In any electron, any

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element, the first shell can have two electrons.

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Every shell after that can have up to four pairs,

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so eight. So 13 is the number. You've got two

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in the first one, eight in the second one, and

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then you've got three in the valence shell. The

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valence shell is the outer shell, and that's

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what determines how electronegative something

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is. Three is very electronegative, because it's

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got one stable... and then it's got one, so it's

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trying to fill that whole shell. So it starts

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stealing electrons. Now you've got cells that

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are unstable, so they steal electrons, then they

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steal electrons. This is how it stimulates the

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immune system, because it basically, it triggers

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all of this cellular oxidation and activity,

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which of course makes the immune system go, uh

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-oh, something's going on. Unfortunately, because

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they can't control, and this is where they said

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they can't make it safe, this is where it is,

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they can't control what electrons are stolen,

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how many it takes to reach homeostasis. They

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can't control that. There's no way to control

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it. And in some people, they can reach homeostasis

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quickly. And in other people, it just goes on

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like fusion, like this massive cellular oxidation.

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So that... When that happens, something in the

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immune system starts, it's called, remember I

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told you, immune cytopenic purpura, a cytokine

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storm is released, particularly of interleukin

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6. Now, this is what they would call, a cytokine

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storm is what they would call hypercytokinemia,

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I think is how you pronounce it. I could be wrong

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about the pronunciation, but that's the word.

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And basically at its worst cases, it can cause

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massive organ failure, but it absolutely does

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cause massive organ dysfunction and damage, which

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is why you see these kids with all these medical

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comorbidities all over their entire body. The

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next thing it does is it triggers encephalopathy.

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Interleukin 6 causes encephalopathy. Chronic

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encephalopathy. This isn't like, oh, my ankle's

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swelled and now it's okay. This is long -term,

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the rest of your life, your brain is on fire.

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What does that do to development? Well, when

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we're all first born, we have all these sensory

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synapses and we're taking everything in, right?

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This is how we learn at such a fast rate. When

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your brain's inflamed, guess what it doesn't

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do? It doesn't prune sensory synapses because

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that would be dangerous to prune the brain when

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it's inflamed. The next thing that doesn't happen

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is it doesn't develop the motor because the sensory

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synapses aren't pruned, so it can't develop the

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motor pathways. And then the next part of development

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is the integration of sensory and motor. That

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does not happen. Those primal reflexes that begin

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whenever kids are like learning these basic motor

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movements, that's when sensory and motor are

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integrating. So when you interfere with that

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process, what you're doing is you're creating

00:24:09.589 --> 00:24:11.809
a disconnect between the brain and the body.

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the mind is still brilliant. It's still incredibly

00:24:16.529 --> 00:24:21.130
absorbing everything. But now it just can't demonstrate,

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it can't control the body. So it can't demonstrate

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to us what it knows, what it's absorbed. So the

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reality is, they're way smarter than us, way,

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way smarter because they're taking in everything.

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And so the whole thing about telepathy, thought

00:24:36.609 --> 00:24:40.529
is energy. They're absorbing it. Emotion is energy.

00:24:40.650 --> 00:24:43.250
they're absorbing it. All these, like this whole

00:24:43.250 --> 00:24:45.950
metaphysical world that we're in, they're absorbing

00:24:45.950 --> 00:24:52.589
it. And so spelling is a way for them to use

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gross motor, the thing they have the closest

00:24:55.450 --> 00:24:58.069
connection to, but even that's severely impaired.

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And when people look at all their impulsive movements

00:25:01.589 --> 00:25:04.930
and everything, what that is, is those are the

00:25:04.930 --> 00:25:08.289
myelinated or impulsive motor pathways. Intentional

00:25:08.289 --> 00:25:11.680
motor is something totally different. And so

00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.940
what happens is these myelinated and impulsive

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pathways, they've been done so much, they get

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so they're heavily, they're strong, fast, wide

00:25:23.299 --> 00:25:27.559
pathways. So it's intentional motor is like trudging

00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.779
through the forest, whereas an impulsive or myelinated

00:25:30.779 --> 00:25:32.900
motor motor pathway is like a super speedway.

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So that's the one that overrides the intentional

00:25:35.900 --> 00:25:37.599
motor, because the intentional motor just takes

00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.829
too long. And so what do we see? we see the one

00:25:41.829 --> 00:25:46.109
that fired first, not the one they want to fire,

00:25:46.609 --> 00:25:48.789
not the motor pathway they're trying to get to

00:25:48.789 --> 00:25:51.430
connect, but the one that had enough time to

00:25:51.430 --> 00:25:57.009
execute. And so spelling is just a way for them

00:25:57.009 --> 00:26:03.750
to try to develop motor pathways. get a little

00:26:03.750 --> 00:26:05.890
bit more myelination on those motor pathways

00:26:05.890 --> 00:26:09.730
so that with 26 letters they have access to the

00:26:09.730 --> 00:26:13.630
whole English language and or other languages

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but because they're brilliant um and the whole

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thing about language even like we've kind of

00:26:19.630 --> 00:26:21.309
think it's like oh you can't know that because

00:26:21.309 --> 00:26:26.069
you what when you understand thought you understand

00:26:26.269 --> 00:26:28.569
the actual intent behind the words. Like one

00:26:28.569 --> 00:26:30.910
word in one language is this. It's one set of

00:26:30.910 --> 00:26:36.289
sounds. And the same like boat, right? Boat in

00:26:36.289 --> 00:26:40.750
English is the sound bo and o and t, right? It's

00:26:40.750 --> 00:26:43.509
those sounds together. When another language,

00:26:43.650 --> 00:26:45.710
it's a different set of sounds. But whenever

00:26:45.710 --> 00:26:49.250
you're able to hear thoughts, you're past the

00:26:49.250 --> 00:26:53.210
sounds. You're at the intent. And that's what

00:26:53.210 --> 00:26:56.930
these guys are. They're way past our, like, menial,

00:26:56.930 --> 00:27:00.329
you know, utterances. They are getting to the

00:27:00.329 --> 00:27:08.430
root, to the meaning of everything. Okay. I want

00:27:08.430 --> 00:27:13.269
to talk a little bit about telepathy now, because

00:27:13.269 --> 00:27:17.309
of what you just described. But I also want to

00:27:17.309 --> 00:27:20.329
talk about spelling. Okay. Which one would you

00:27:20.329 --> 00:27:22.940
want to talk about first? Let's talk about spelling

00:27:22.940 --> 00:27:28.660
first. Okay, so Can you just let let me know

00:27:28.660 --> 00:27:30.539
because I have I know nothing about spelling

00:27:30.539 --> 00:27:33.519
to communicate Can you just take me through this

00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.319
process? The intensity that the learning about

00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:39.799
it and things just yeah, okay So what you do

00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.859
is you start off with we started off with three

00:27:42.859 --> 00:27:45.440
boards Right and they've got about eight to nine

00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.279
letters on each board and you ask them a question

00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.059
that they already like you teach them something

00:27:52.099 --> 00:27:55.759
You presume competence and it and then you ask

00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:57.420
them a question about what you just taught them

00:27:57.420 --> 00:28:00.039
So, you know that they've got the material like

00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.599
it's not like we just talked about it I know

00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.960
I'm gonna believe you're smart and I'm gonna

00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.579
believe the only thing that's Impairing you from

00:28:08.579 --> 00:28:11.900
communicating is your motor So I'm gonna coach

00:28:11.900 --> 00:28:15.079
your motor So let me explain that in a real quick.

00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.240
So is let's say someone it you know had never

00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:21.359
seen a basketball before heard of the or, you

00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:23.680
know, ever played or anything. And they handed

00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.279
you a ball. And they said, put that ball in that

00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.500
hoop. And you're looking at it, and you're like,

00:28:29.660 --> 00:28:34.079
how am I supposed to do that? Right? But then

00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:36.700
what if somebody said, okay, I want you to hold

00:28:36.700 --> 00:28:38.759
the ball like this, go underneath, and I want

00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:40.539
you to bend your knees, and I want you to look

00:28:40.539 --> 00:28:42.819
up, and I want you to push from the bottom, and

00:28:42.819 --> 00:28:45.079
I want you to kind of arc it like this, right?

00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.099
And somebody starts coaching you through all

00:28:47.099 --> 00:28:51.509
those minute movements. It wouldn't be right

00:28:51.509 --> 00:28:55.450
away, but over time you might be able to get

00:28:55.450 --> 00:28:59.250
that ball to go in that hoop. Now that's someone

00:28:59.250 --> 00:29:02.829
presuming competence. They presume that you understand

00:29:02.829 --> 00:29:06.289
how that they said, put the ball in that hoop

00:29:06.289 --> 00:29:09.210
and they understand that you know what you want

00:29:09.210 --> 00:29:14.230
them to do. That is, that's what presuming competence

00:29:14.230 --> 00:29:18.900
is. So when I say to someone, Spell this word

00:29:18.900 --> 00:29:21.799
that we just talked about. Spell photosynthesis.

00:29:22.460 --> 00:29:26.240
I assume that they know what I want them to do.

00:29:26.779 --> 00:29:28.759
And the only thing that they're needing coaching

00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:34.180
on is how to move their arm to do that. That's

00:29:34.180 --> 00:29:36.900
spelling to communicate. That's motor coaching.

00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.420
That's letter boarding. That's all these different

00:29:39.420 --> 00:29:41.619
words. What you're doing is you're prompting

00:29:41.619 --> 00:29:45.119
their motor just like you would for a tee ball,

00:29:45.420 --> 00:29:49.420
catching a ball, throwing a ball hitting a bat.

00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:54.180
Any of these motor skills, we would take the

00:29:54.180 --> 00:29:57.519
time swimming incredibly complex. What do people

00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:00.960
do? Oh, you're not smart. You can't swim. You

00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:05.339
don't know what swimming means. Or maybe they

00:30:05.339 --> 00:30:09.680
don't know how to move their body that way. And

00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:12.160
that's this idea that because these kids can't

00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.599
speak that somehow they don't comprehend. And

00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.839
presuming competence is critical to the whole

00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:23.420
process. So you start with coaching their motor

00:30:23.420 --> 00:30:25.819
just to spell words because you want to always

00:30:25.819 --> 00:30:29.099
like until you build up their motor, you don't

00:30:29.099 --> 00:30:30.940
make it difficult. Like you don't make someone

00:30:30.940 --> 00:30:36.140
do a difficult motor skill or a difficult complex.

00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.819
You don't make it more complex when they still

00:30:38.819 --> 00:30:41.460
are struggling with the most basic stuff, right?

00:30:41.630 --> 00:30:44.029
Because it's like it's like learning the piano.

00:30:44.029 --> 00:30:46.690
You have to learn the scales first, right? You

00:30:46.690 --> 00:30:48.930
do that and then you can start working on the

00:30:48.930 --> 00:30:53.309
progression So, um, so you start with the three

00:30:53.309 --> 00:30:55.650
boards and I mean when Houston first started

00:30:55.650 --> 00:30:57.910
he had a pencil and it's got a stencil, right?

00:30:57.990 --> 00:31:00.849
So the letters are poked out now what's interesting

00:31:00.849 --> 00:31:03.289
is Houston's I didn't know this right away Houston

00:31:03.289 --> 00:31:06.789
sees triple and Everything moves and he goes

00:31:06.789 --> 00:31:09.369
blind from one eye to the other sometimes both

00:31:09.369 --> 00:31:12.569
eyes Did the doctors ever bother to figure that

00:31:12.569 --> 00:31:17.890
one out? No, they didn't. How would vision impact

00:31:17.890 --> 00:31:21.269
motor? Well, what we found out is that actually

00:31:21.269 --> 00:31:24.369
it's huge. It's not just where things are but

00:31:24.369 --> 00:31:33.710
vision Houston's gonna say hi But so it's something

00:31:33.710 --> 00:31:37.049
called your vestibular system so what your vestibular

00:31:37.049 --> 00:31:39.799
system does is it takes in what you see and what

00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.059
you hear and it's your body GPS. It tells you

00:31:42.059 --> 00:31:46.000
where you are in space. And then there's something

00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:48.980
called saccades and pursuits. And these actually,

00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:52.519
so saccades, they're basically moving your eyes

00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:54.740
right to left. If you even try and like stop

00:31:54.740 --> 00:31:57.220
your eyes and like, look, look, lift your eyes

00:31:57.220 --> 00:32:00.299
up, lift your eyes down, go to the right, left.

00:32:00.500 --> 00:32:03.539
You can see how like difficult and how like fine

00:32:03.539 --> 00:32:07.359
motor that is. Well, if you're seeing like, triple

00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.299
of everything and it moves, right? Then people

00:32:10.299 --> 00:32:12.920
go, oh, they don't, they don't like, for example,

00:32:13.180 --> 00:32:15.660
they don't look in, um, they don't make eye contact.

00:32:15.779 --> 00:32:19.039
They don't like people or they're seeing six

00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.920
eyeballs and they can't focus on which ones.

00:32:22.259 --> 00:32:26.480
Yeah. It's the arrogance of the observer, right?

00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:30.480
The eye as an observer can determine the true

00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.170
meaning and intent by what I'm observing. Or

00:32:34.170 --> 00:32:36.410
no, you can't because no none of us have that

00:32:36.410 --> 00:32:39.769
ability to go into someone else's body and to

00:32:39.769 --> 00:32:45.069
experience what they're experiencing So as Houston

00:32:45.069 --> 00:32:47.950
began like he had we had the stencil right and

00:32:47.950 --> 00:32:51.450
some guys can't do the stencil because They have

00:32:51.450 --> 00:32:54.009
depth perception issues. And so they actually

00:32:54.009 --> 00:32:57.190
need the letters raised up But again, unless

00:32:57.190 --> 00:32:59.390
you have a vision expert that can see what's

00:32:59.390 --> 00:33:02.809
going on with their eyes You don't you're again

00:33:02.809 --> 00:33:05.750
making assumptions based on what you're observing

00:33:05.750 --> 00:33:08.369
without knowing what's really going on So Houston

00:33:08.369 --> 00:33:10.450
would we'd give him a pencil and he would sit

00:33:10.450 --> 00:33:18.789
there and he would be like this To get to one

00:33:18.789 --> 00:33:23.049
letter That's how exhausting it was to point

00:33:23.049 --> 00:33:27.569
to one letter but the more I coached his motor

00:33:27.569 --> 00:33:32.589
the more accurate he got So then we reduce the

00:33:32.589 --> 00:33:35.349
visual field and we put all 26 letters on one

00:33:35.349 --> 00:33:38.750
board. This is a lot harder visually and it's

00:33:38.750 --> 00:33:40.950
a lot easier to make a mistake. So your motor

00:33:40.950 --> 00:33:44.329
has to be more accurate. So we had to work on

00:33:44.329 --> 00:33:47.869
that. Once he's on the 26 letters, we can start

00:33:47.869 --> 00:33:54.029
to increase the intellectual load. So that's

00:33:54.029 --> 00:33:57.690
when we start asking more complex questions.

00:33:57.930 --> 00:34:01.599
So the way to get to independent open is you

00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:06.359
start with known questions, right? Like I told

00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.800
you about photosynthesis, I asked you a question

00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.000
about photosynthesis, you answered it, right?

00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:17.960
That's a known question. A semi -open question

00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.639
was where I taught you about chlorophyll and

00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.139
I taught you about the different types of chlorophyll

00:34:23.139 --> 00:34:26.059
and what different chlorophylls, you know, the

00:34:26.059 --> 00:34:27.960
different wavelengths that they would reflect,

00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.969
right? and, you know, absorb the whole, it's,

00:34:32.969 --> 00:34:34.909
it's really incredible when you actually get

00:34:34.909 --> 00:34:40.030
my answer. But that would be like, so now there

00:34:40.030 --> 00:34:43.369
are several options. They're all right answers,

00:34:43.389 --> 00:34:45.510
but I don't know which one he's going to share.

00:34:45.630 --> 00:34:50.250
If I say name one of the colors that this particular

00:34:50.250 --> 00:34:54.250
type reflects, then you would, he has a couple

00:34:54.250 --> 00:34:58.400
of options. And so Once he goes to that first

00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:03.860
letter, let's say he does, you know, red. And

00:35:03.860 --> 00:35:08.900
if he goes to the letter R, I know that the options

00:35:08.900 --> 00:35:11.199
are like, you know, I've got three different

00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:12.639
options. I know he's going to spell the letter

00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.860
red, right? So I can help him to coach him through

00:35:15.860 --> 00:35:18.079
the rest of that letter or the rest of that word.

00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.019
Then we go to that. And that's what they call

00:35:21.019 --> 00:35:24.139
a semi open question. And then the next stage

00:35:24.139 --> 00:35:26.699
is what they would call open. And that's where

00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:31.599
I say, you know, I wear something I don't know

00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.420
the answer to, like, what is your favorite tree

00:35:35.420 --> 00:35:37.380
in the fall? Like, based on like the different

00:35:37.380 --> 00:35:39.840
colors and the variations of like, you know,

00:35:39.900 --> 00:35:43.480
essentially once there's less sunlight and, you

00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.519
know, the other colors are able to emerge because

00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:50.320
if there's less sunlight, which one is your favorite

00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:53.369
and, you know, what color? does it produce? You

00:35:53.369 --> 00:35:54.989
know, I could say something like that, where

00:35:54.989 --> 00:35:58.349
I don't know what I don't know what tree he's

00:35:58.349 --> 00:36:00.510
going to tell me is his favorite in the fall.

00:36:01.309 --> 00:36:03.269
I have no idea. I don't know what the answer

00:36:03.269 --> 00:36:08.389
is to that. So he has to be really good. By that

00:36:08.389 --> 00:36:12.329
point, with his motor, he's got to be super accurate,

00:36:12.489 --> 00:36:15.769
because I don't have any idea to help him get

00:36:15.769 --> 00:36:18.769
to that first, you know, letter. He's got to

00:36:18.769 --> 00:36:22.570
pick it. He's got to pick correctly. So Because

00:36:22.570 --> 00:36:24.650
that, you know, and so this is where, you know,

00:36:24.650 --> 00:36:26.969
and they can be like, for example, if he was

00:36:26.969 --> 00:36:32.650
trying to get to, um, if he pushed X for the

00:36:32.650 --> 00:36:37.849
first letter for a tree, I might go, was that

00:36:37.849 --> 00:36:41.269
a misspoke? Cause maybe you're right beside,

00:36:41.269 --> 00:36:44.610
you know, right underneath the R or something.

00:36:44.690 --> 00:36:46.050
You know what I mean? Like you're right beside

00:36:46.050 --> 00:36:48.889
her diagonal or something like that. And so like

00:36:48.889 --> 00:36:51.739
as a coach, you're watching their motor and you

00:36:51.739 --> 00:36:54.659
can make some presumptions about what you what

00:36:54.659 --> 00:36:58.460
you know they meant to hit but maybe missed and

00:36:58.460 --> 00:37:03.420
you can help them correct that motor oh you were

00:37:03.420 --> 00:37:05.980
right here you needed to get right here and you

00:37:05.980 --> 00:37:10.940
see this what happens is this trust between the

00:37:10.940 --> 00:37:14.579
coach and the speller begins and they're like

00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:16.679
Oh my gosh, because what they've lived through

00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:18.800
is ABA where, oh, you got it wrong. You don't

00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:20.659
know your letters. Oh, you got it wrong. Right.

00:37:20.739 --> 00:37:22.960
That's what they've lived with. Punishment. Yeah.

00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.039
And so now someone's like, you realized I was,

00:37:26.420 --> 00:37:28.760
I missed it. You realized I just couldn't get

00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:32.099
there. And then what happens is this trust builds

00:37:32.099 --> 00:37:36.929
and that's when communication opens up. So beautifully

00:37:36.929 --> 00:37:39.809
is because they're finally with somebody who

00:37:39.809 --> 00:37:42.489
presumes competence, who's coaching their motor,

00:37:42.849 --> 00:37:49.050
who trusts them, who they trust. It's really

00:37:49.050 --> 00:37:51.869
no different than like if two people could verbally

00:37:51.869 --> 00:37:54.750
communicate, we have to be able to be on that

00:37:54.750 --> 00:37:58.070
same page. And then we build the trust. It's

00:37:58.070 --> 00:38:01.989
a gateway to trust. Yeah. So yeah, I follow that.

00:38:02.070 --> 00:38:06.090
Yeah. How long does it take to get to that open

00:38:06.090 --> 00:38:10.329
question? It's different for everyone. And because

00:38:10.329 --> 00:38:13.010
again, their motor is all different. How many

00:38:13.010 --> 00:38:15.730
times are you practicing? What is their age?

00:38:15.829 --> 00:38:17.909
How regulated are they? There's so many other

00:38:17.909 --> 00:38:22.710
factors. We come from this mindset, and it's

00:38:22.710 --> 00:38:25.909
a false mindset, by the way, that there's one

00:38:25.909 --> 00:38:30.250
cause. If we're observing this one thing, then

00:38:30.250 --> 00:38:34.090
there's... one cause. If there's this one problem,

00:38:34.130 --> 00:38:36.849
then this needs this one answer because there's

00:38:36.849 --> 00:38:39.469
only one factor. And that's just not the case

00:38:39.469 --> 00:38:43.690
with anything. We're all affected by so many

00:38:43.690 --> 00:38:49.690
countless factors. But I'll tell you the factors

00:38:49.690 --> 00:38:53.710
and I'll give you a rough estimate. If somebody

00:38:53.710 --> 00:38:59.409
practices every single day and that coach is

00:38:59.409 --> 00:39:03.969
believing in them. And they are practicing really

00:39:03.969 --> 00:39:06.489
good regulation as far as getting their bodies

00:39:06.489 --> 00:39:12.070
regulated. They can, and I'm saying when I say

00:39:12.070 --> 00:39:15.530
practice every day, I mean like truly investing

00:39:15.530 --> 00:39:19.349
and it can be broken up. If they can only handle

00:39:19.349 --> 00:39:22.489
like 10 minutes at a time, fine, break it up.

00:39:22.670 --> 00:39:25.949
But I try to get people to do in like 30 minutes

00:39:25.949 --> 00:39:31.809
or an hour a day, at least. And I know in the

00:39:31.809 --> 00:39:36.329
beginning that can seem daunting. And, and that's

00:39:36.329 --> 00:39:39.130
why you just have to break it up. Yeah. Just

00:39:39.130 --> 00:39:41.289
little bits by little bits, you know, different

00:39:41.289 --> 00:39:43.130
than anything else. Like you were talking about

00:39:43.130 --> 00:39:46.250
the motor skills or learning basketball or piano.

00:39:46.409 --> 00:39:49.030
You just can't get all the way into it. You just

00:39:49.030 --> 00:39:51.650
break it up into the, into how much they can

00:39:51.650 --> 00:39:55.360
handle it once. But the, it's the belief. in

00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:58.480
them that is the driving force. So if you've

00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.619
got a coach that or a parent is going to believe

00:40:00.619 --> 00:40:03.900
in you, it's like a freight train. It's like

00:40:03.900 --> 00:40:08.719
they their motor progresses so quickly because

00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:10.920
they've got that belief in them just like any

00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:13.079
of us with who has a coach that believes in us.

00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:14.599
Suddenly we can do things that we never thought

00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.440
we could do. Yeah. Wow, I didn't even know I

00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:22.730
could do this. So but if if they have that If

00:40:22.730 --> 00:40:24.889
they practice every single day and they have

00:40:24.889 --> 00:40:27.110
got the regulation and they've got the coach

00:40:27.110 --> 00:40:29.050
that's believing or the parent, and it's even

00:40:29.050 --> 00:40:32.130
better if it's a parent, I just got to say, sometimes

00:40:32.130 --> 00:40:34.590
this is really difficult for parents. And I don't

00:40:34.590 --> 00:40:38.670
want any family, depending on the spelling coach,

00:40:38.869 --> 00:40:41.590
to be the primary communication partner. The

00:40:41.590 --> 00:40:43.969
parent, one of the parents has got to step up

00:40:43.969 --> 00:40:47.710
into that role. They just have to. Because you've

00:40:47.710 --> 00:40:49.269
got to be able to communicate with your family.

00:40:50.489 --> 00:40:53.250
That's where it needs to be. And that is harder

00:40:53.250 --> 00:40:59.469
because there's a lot of emotional baggage that

00:40:59.469 --> 00:41:01.769
we all carry, especially if you haven't believed

00:41:01.769 --> 00:41:04.030
in your child and they could hear all your thoughts.

00:41:04.869 --> 00:41:08.449
That's affecting them. And so you've got to confess.

00:41:08.869 --> 00:41:12.610
You've got to say, I'm sorry. I was wrong. I

00:41:12.610 --> 00:41:16.829
want to fix this. And that's where the healing

00:41:16.829 --> 00:41:22.449
begins. But let's say you do all those things

00:41:22.449 --> 00:41:28.909
is very, very reasonable to expect open communication

00:41:28.909 --> 00:41:32.170
in a year. It is actually reasonable to expect

00:41:32.170 --> 00:41:35.590
it in much less time than that. But I say a year

00:41:35.590 --> 00:41:40.929
because I feel safe saying a year. We just had

00:41:40.929 --> 00:41:43.150
someone I had a friend and I've been trying to

00:41:43.150 --> 00:41:45.750
get her on the boards, you know, with her son

00:41:45.750 --> 00:41:48.699
and there were just so many obstacles. And we

00:41:48.699 --> 00:41:52.699
finally got her on the boards with her son. And

00:41:52.699 --> 00:41:57.099
she's got a coach with her coming constantly.

00:41:57.500 --> 00:42:03.239
And I think it was the 42nd session that he spelled

00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:07.619
his first open sentence. So that gives you an

00:42:07.619 --> 00:42:16.179
idea. And that's someone who has severe eye issues.

00:42:17.550 --> 00:42:22.750
it struggles with regulation, non -speaker, you

00:42:22.750 --> 00:42:26.429
know, I will say it's more difficult for the

00:42:26.429 --> 00:42:28.750
little ones because their bodies are, they can't

00:42:28.750 --> 00:42:32.690
even hardly sit. And the way I've seen it with

00:42:32.690 --> 00:42:35.409
that and don't feel bad about doing this is totally

00:42:35.409 --> 00:42:37.809
fine. If they can't sit, fine, follow them around

00:42:37.809 --> 00:42:41.570
the room or have one parent hold them and the

00:42:41.570 --> 00:42:44.309
other parent holding the board. Like do what

00:42:44.309 --> 00:42:47.480
you have to do. Like, but you have to know that

00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.260
they want to communicate. And what you are witnessing

00:42:50.260 --> 00:42:54.019
is a body that they're not connected to that's

00:42:54.019 --> 00:42:57.719
struggling. And it's not them. It's their body.

00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:04.659
Yeah. The language is in there. Is it easy to

00:43:04.659 --> 00:43:06.920
get started on spelling to communicate or is

00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.099
that something that's it's more like depending

00:43:09.099 --> 00:43:13.739
on the area? It's not widely available like it

00:43:13.739 --> 00:43:18.010
needs to be. Frankly, I mean, I have people contacting

00:43:18.010 --> 00:43:20.369
me. I'm in Pennsylvania. Can you help me find

00:43:20.369 --> 00:43:23.650
someone in Pennsylvania? I'm in, you know, Nebraska.

00:43:23.730 --> 00:43:27.690
There's no one here. Where do I go? Like, people

00:43:27.690 --> 00:43:29.710
are really struggling to find, you know, coaches.

00:43:29.829 --> 00:43:32.010
There is communication for all with the number

00:43:32.010 --> 00:43:36.530
four. That's free and online. It's got all the

00:43:36.530 --> 00:43:39.210
succession videos, all the training videos, lessons.

00:43:39.530 --> 00:43:43.710
It's got everything there. What And they do have

00:43:43.710 --> 00:43:47.530
people you can contact in for support. But I

00:43:47.530 --> 00:43:50.630
just will say it really does help to have somebody

00:43:50.630 --> 00:43:52.730
with you. It's kind of like learning any motor

00:43:52.730 --> 00:43:56.969
skill online. You can do it. You have to be really,

00:43:56.989 --> 00:44:00.610
really well motivated. Whereas if you have somebody

00:44:00.610 --> 00:44:04.369
in person, it's just another level. You can feel

00:44:04.369 --> 00:44:06.210
their energy, you can feel their support. You

00:44:06.210 --> 00:44:11.500
don't feel alone in the process. And it does

00:44:11.500 --> 00:44:13.659
not have to cost a lot of money. I'm going to

00:44:13.659 --> 00:44:16.480
say this because I want people to hear it, that

00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:21.119
it's possible. I got one coaching lesson. I paid

00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:24.739
attention and then I went and I did it myself.

00:44:26.139 --> 00:44:30.340
Now, once I got Houston open, then I wanted him

00:44:30.340 --> 00:44:32.889
to spell with other people. I didn't want to

00:44:32.889 --> 00:44:35.329
be the only person he could communicate with

00:44:35.329 --> 00:44:38.829
me, right? Because he'd already been trapped

00:44:38.829 --> 00:44:40.710
in his body his whole life. I didn't want to

00:44:40.710 --> 00:44:44.570
limit his voice to just his mom. That's horrible.

00:44:45.030 --> 00:44:50.469
He's a young man. Then we had this amazing coach

00:44:50.469 --> 00:44:54.090
that he worked with and it was a man and he got

00:44:54.090 --> 00:44:56.929
to talk about things that I'm not interested

00:44:56.929 --> 00:45:01.070
in. Then we got another coach who was just this

00:45:01.050 --> 00:45:05.989
beautiful life giving source. And, and he got

00:45:05.989 --> 00:45:11.989
to be like this incredibly deep, encouraging,

00:45:12.550 --> 00:45:17.130
like really friend to her. And I get to see like

00:45:17.130 --> 00:45:18.929
through these relationships that he was having

00:45:18.929 --> 00:45:20.929
with all these other spelling coaches, I got

00:45:20.929 --> 00:45:24.349
to see the depth of my son's soul because they

00:45:24.349 --> 00:45:27.750
brought out things of him that I didn't. Yeah.

00:45:29.260 --> 00:45:32.480
And that's why you want you want it to be a community

00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:35.320
you want it to be You know with all these people

00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:38.340
that you want it to be as close to what we all

00:45:38.340 --> 00:45:43.079
experience You know with with unimpaired motor

00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.000
that you can like we want them to have all those

00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.539
experiences Especially the social ones because

00:45:50.539 --> 00:45:52.800
they've been deprived for so long and then can

00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:58.760
you imagine for two decades Houston was 21 almost

00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.880
about to age out of public school when we finally

00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:06.039
found the letter boards, when we started. I found

00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:11.739
out six months before his aging out, and we started

00:46:11.739 --> 00:46:14.639
the next month. And so his spelling, his very

00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:19.559
first independent words were, I'm in here. Can

00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.920
you imagine? And that was in July, and he aged

00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:34.449
out in October. I mean, two decades of fearing

00:46:34.449 --> 00:46:37.690
that you're never gonna be known. And that's

00:46:37.690 --> 00:46:40.789
what we all, this idea these behaviors have,

00:46:41.130 --> 00:46:43.230
like, is essentially trying to deny the right

00:46:43.230 --> 00:46:45.829
for other people to be known. When that is the

00:46:45.829 --> 00:46:49.829
most instinctual desire every single one of us

00:46:49.829 --> 00:46:56.760
have is to be known. Yeah, yeah. And loved. The

00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:59.320
idea that these these experts supposedly can

00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:03.079
come in and deny like blanketly deny the rights

00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:08.579
of all these students is maddening and The schools

00:47:08.579 --> 00:47:11.599
do it. Oh also need to tell about schools. Not

00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:15.260
only are they awful But they also and they deny

00:47:15.260 --> 00:47:18.920
all the rights, but they get more money per kid

00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.920
with disabilities But the money doesn't go to

00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:25.329
them. It goes into the general fund there happy

00:47:25.329 --> 00:47:27.150
to have a self -contained classroom that they

00:47:27.150 --> 00:47:30.510
can barely fund and let these kids just rot away,

00:47:30.769 --> 00:47:33.809
forgotten, while they take the money that's appropriate

00:47:33.809 --> 00:47:35.670
for them and they use it on their neurotypical

00:47:35.670 --> 00:47:38.530
students. And I have four other neurotypical

00:47:38.530 --> 00:47:41.469
students. And this is how I feel. If there's

00:47:41.469 --> 00:47:43.230
extra resources, it's gonna go to the one who

00:47:43.230 --> 00:47:45.630
has the greatest need, not the one who has the

00:47:45.630 --> 00:47:56.570
least. Yeah. Okay. How was it for you whenever

00:47:56.570 --> 00:48:03.250
you saw I am in here? I explain it like it was

00:48:03.250 --> 00:48:08.289
like I got hit with a gale wind but it was my

00:48:08.289 --> 00:48:14.010
son's soul. Oh yeah. Sometimes I just imagine

00:48:14.010 --> 00:48:19.449
how the nonverbal autistics must feel not being

00:48:19.449 --> 00:48:24.980
able to share. It's very concerning to me. They

00:48:24.980 --> 00:48:33.699
feel despair. Yeah. Hopeless, too. Yes. And it's

00:48:33.699 --> 00:48:35.659
hard to trust people like you were mentioning,

00:48:35.820 --> 00:48:39.599
which is important. So hopeless. I must feel.

00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:43.780
You know what? One of the things that we want

00:48:43.780 --> 00:48:50.139
so desperately is to change how people treat

00:48:50.139 --> 00:48:55.019
each other. Mm -hmm. You know this is this um,

00:48:55.019 --> 00:48:56.820
and I'm sorry the lighting is so bad. It keeps

00:48:56.820 --> 00:49:02.579
going down, but But these individuals like they

00:49:02.579 --> 00:49:08.159
understand how in how critical love is But we

00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.320
also need to understand that in kindness like

00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:14.280
it has to be kindness this idea of like trying

00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:20.639
to Okay, I should go back There is no lack This

00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.940
is important. There is no lack. We have an abundance

00:49:24.940 --> 00:49:28.519
of everything we could possibly need. There is

00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:32.079
a lack of distribution, but there is no lack.

00:49:34.260 --> 00:49:39.239
And I mean that in every sense of what we all

00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:42.519
want in life. There is no lack of love. There

00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:47.400
is no lack of any of the things that we need

00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:51.630
to be a human being. But the way it's distributed

00:49:51.630 --> 00:49:54.130
the way it's confined the way that we think that

00:49:54.130 --> 00:49:57.469
we have to compete for resources Like these are

00:49:57.469 --> 00:50:01.610
the fundamental things that create fear And when

00:50:01.610 --> 00:50:04.570
we realize that there's no lack that we all have

00:50:04.570 --> 00:50:07.710
within us this the abundance of the Lord God

00:50:07.710 --> 00:50:11.550
within us To distribute freely to give freely.

00:50:11.550 --> 00:50:14.389
We don't have to like hold up for ourselves Like

00:50:14.389 --> 00:50:17.170
we have an abundance coming through us and we

00:50:17.170 --> 00:50:22.269
need to pour it out of us And so I think that's

00:50:22.269 --> 00:50:29.050
fundamental to understand how how they can say

00:50:29.050 --> 00:50:34.289
with such certainty, we just need love. We just

00:50:34.289 --> 00:50:38.349
need you to see each other and us and everyone

00:50:38.349 --> 00:50:44.730
as a human being worthy of with intrinsic value,

00:50:45.309 --> 00:50:48.780
eternal, infinite value. And we need to treat

00:50:48.780 --> 00:50:51.239
other human beings with that same thought every

00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.940
single second of every single day. Yeah. I like

00:50:54.940 --> 00:50:58.619
Matthew 7. Matthew 7 is pretty good on that.

00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:06.519
Houston says that one soul is worth more than

00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.599
all the money in the entire world. Oh yeah. One

00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:13.260
soul. That's it. Yeah. And so that's how we like

00:51:13.260 --> 00:51:16.519
that's the shift that has to happen, right? Yeah.

00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:20.059
And they are here to make that shift happen.

00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.260
That's the fundamental shift that they want to

00:51:22.260 --> 00:51:27.059
see. Now, I've had people go, oh, this is important

00:51:27.059 --> 00:51:29.659
to me because it's important to understand this.

00:51:30.579 --> 00:51:34.239
Like, oh, we should all just be unified. That

00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:39.860
sounds great, right? Now, this is tricky. Unity

00:51:39.860 --> 00:51:43.840
doesn't happen on its own. You can't try to force

00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:50.320
unity. It requires truth and justice. And those

00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:56.380
create within us this recognition that we may

00:51:56.380 --> 00:52:01.219
have been wrong about something, and we need

00:52:01.219 --> 00:52:04.079
to right it. And we need to humble ourselves.

00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:06.159
We need to repent. We need to say we're sorry.

00:52:06.380 --> 00:52:10.960
We need to fix things. And that is what creates

00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:16.039
within us the ability to unify. But this idea

00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:19.920
that you can force unity without like acknowledging,

00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:21.719
you know, some people are still saying they're

00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.420
more important than other people, but let's unify.

00:52:24.739 --> 00:52:27.199
Like, well, the people are getting stomped on

00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:29.300
aren't okay with that. They don't really feel

00:52:29.300 --> 00:52:31.460
unified with you and they don't think that you

00:52:31.460 --> 00:52:34.119
have their best interest at heart. So it feels

00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:40.860
disingenuous to them. And so. The moms of autistics

00:52:40.860 --> 00:52:45.260
that they're being stomped on. They are. And

00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:52.320
it's frustrating for people who do not live with

00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:59.360
this unreal challenge that these parents and

00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:02.780
these non -speakers have lived with, being dismissed

00:53:02.780 --> 00:53:06.019
by people who have none of those issues. And

00:53:06.019 --> 00:53:10.679
that's been so hurtful. And a lot of these people

00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:14.050
are just, they're continuing to be hurtful. They're

00:53:14.050 --> 00:53:19.329
not they're not taking a pause to go Maybe I

00:53:19.329 --> 00:53:21.150
was wrong and I shouldn't have said that and

00:53:21.150 --> 00:53:23.550
this wasn't about me and I shouldn't have made

00:53:23.550 --> 00:53:27.769
it about me when it wasn't about me Humans have

00:53:27.769 --> 00:53:31.210
a hard time with that. Yeah, they do And you

00:53:31.210 --> 00:53:33.210
know, the thing is is like it's okay to be wrong

00:53:33.210 --> 00:53:38.230
Yeah, okay Like you can go you know what? I don't

00:53:38.230 --> 00:53:41.739
like the way I handled that I wish I had thought

00:53:41.739 --> 00:53:43.599
about someone else instead of myself in that

00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:47.699
moment. Yeah. Making it right will be a better

00:53:47.699 --> 00:53:50.760
outcome afterward. You'll be a stronger person.

00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:55.599
There'll be that unity. That's how we sustain

00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:57.960
our species and so forth. It's how you create

00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.139
trust. If someone never apologizes and they keep

00:54:01.139 --> 00:54:05.199
trying to assert the same opinion, then there's

00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:07.360
no trust and there can't be unity when there's

00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:13.780
no trust. Are the letter boards something that,

00:54:13.780 --> 00:54:17.260
like Houston or others that use this, they can

00:54:17.260 --> 00:54:19.800
just take with them, like in public? Yeah, I

00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.280
have like this little laminate one that I use.

00:54:22.340 --> 00:54:24.880
It's my little travel one and I carry it everywhere.

00:54:25.659 --> 00:54:27.860
And I didn't finish the progression because yeah,

00:54:27.860 --> 00:54:29.699
after you do the stencil, then you progress to

00:54:29.699 --> 00:54:32.500
a laminate. And ideally, then you progress to

00:54:32.500 --> 00:54:35.159
like, I shouldn't say ideally, because I don't,

00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:39.199
here's my other thing is like, for example, let

00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.320
me show you. Like this is something we work on,

00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.920
right? So this is a little portable keyboard

00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.019
that we can take with us everywhere This I never

00:54:49.019 --> 00:54:51.460
plug this in I do not connect this to Wi -Fi

00:54:51.460 --> 00:54:55.820
because Houston can hear the Wi -Fi. He is completely

00:54:55.820 --> 00:55:00.619
distracted by electromagnetic energy The EMF

00:55:00.619 --> 00:55:03.639
and so people think oh technology is better and

00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:06.840
I'm like actually technology is worse Technology

00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.639
is another distraction. I'm glad you brought

00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:13.360
that up So people think like technology is better

00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:17.860
and I'm like, it's not it's worse But I understand

00:55:17.860 --> 00:55:21.000
people somehow think I want to ask you a question

00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:27.500
though, which is real this Or Actually, I don't

00:55:27.500 --> 00:55:30.139
have this regular letter board with me. Oh, here

00:55:30.139 --> 00:55:33.500
we go. Here it is Which is which is um, which

00:55:33.500 --> 00:55:39.500
is real like which is real letters this one Or

00:55:39.500 --> 00:55:45.690
this one I would say that one. Is an A here real?

00:55:47.130 --> 00:55:53.630
Or an A here real? Which one's real? It's the

00:55:53.630 --> 00:55:57.010
same. Okay. You know? Like, I mean, that's my

00:55:57.010 --> 00:55:58.949
point is that they think that somehow if you

00:55:58.949 --> 00:56:01.889
do it on this, that's real communication. But

00:56:01.889 --> 00:56:06.730
if you do it on this, it's not. So who says that?

00:56:07.170 --> 00:56:09.210
Oh, of course, all the people that are trying

00:56:09.210 --> 00:56:14.730
to attack spelling. Okay, but even but even people

00:56:14.730 --> 00:56:18.590
like I have like like I've gone into schools,

00:56:18.590 --> 00:56:22.650
right and I'm trying to you know advocate for

00:56:22.650 --> 00:56:24.590
letter, you know letter boards and spelling and

00:56:24.590 --> 00:56:27.690
coaching and all that and This is what they'll

00:56:27.690 --> 00:56:30.469
say. Well, we have alpha boards. Why can't they

00:56:30.469 --> 00:56:36.389
just use those? It's a it's a fair question Why

00:56:36.389 --> 00:56:41.789
can't you just hold up a letter board? Hold up

00:56:41.789 --> 00:56:46.349
the keyboard. Why can't they just use it? It's

00:56:46.349 --> 00:56:49.230
because they can't control their motor. Their

00:56:49.230 --> 00:56:53.030
motor has never been coached. So they just think

00:56:53.030 --> 00:56:54.750
they're just going to get right into it? Right.

00:56:54.769 --> 00:56:56.230
They think they can just hold it up and they

00:56:56.230 --> 00:56:57.789
should just be able to do it when no one coaches

00:56:57.789 --> 00:57:00.869
their motor. Now, let me offer a comparison.

00:57:01.050 --> 00:57:03.309
Now, they also think if somebody like, for example,

00:57:03.429 --> 00:57:06.170
Houston could spell with me, right? But then

00:57:06.170 --> 00:57:08.289
somebody new sits down and tries to spell with

00:57:08.289 --> 00:57:10.989
him and he can't do it with them and People are

00:57:10.989 --> 00:57:13.050
like why he can't do it because I just tried

00:57:13.050 --> 00:57:15.670
and he couldn't do it And I get I get really

00:57:15.670 --> 00:57:17.409
frustrated when people take the board for me

00:57:17.409 --> 00:57:19.809
and they're like, oh, I'll try it I'm like, I'm

00:57:19.809 --> 00:57:25.349
sorry. Are you trained? This the equivalent of

00:57:25.349 --> 00:57:30.789
someone who's never danced Trying to just step

00:57:30.789 --> 00:57:34.659
in and do a complicated dance that the two of

00:57:34.659 --> 00:57:39.139
them have been working on for years. It's not

00:57:39.139 --> 00:57:42.460
going to translate because there's not that connection.

00:57:42.820 --> 00:57:45.420
There is an energetic connection when two people

00:57:45.420 --> 00:57:50.360
because they're depending on your emotional belief

00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.000
in them. Whereas that person that just holds

00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:58.550
up the board is like, prove it to me. And that

00:57:58.550 --> 00:58:00.769
literally I can tell you what actually happens

00:58:00.769 --> 00:58:02.530
in the body. What actually happens in the body

00:58:02.530 --> 00:58:05.849
is what any of us would experience anxiety, right?

00:58:06.010 --> 00:58:08.130
Yeah. That's what I was getting at. It's like,

00:58:08.269 --> 00:58:10.349
I don't go communicating with everybody that

00:58:10.349 --> 00:58:14.550
I see. Yeah. So it wouldn't translate. Well,

00:58:14.590 --> 00:58:16.670
and the thing about anxiety is what does the

00:58:16.670 --> 00:58:19.070
anxiety do in the brain? What does it do in the

00:58:19.070 --> 00:58:21.809
body? Well, what it actually does is it triggers

00:58:21.809 --> 00:58:24.469
the amygdala and the limbic system. And what

00:58:24.469 --> 00:58:29.380
does that do? Well, that triggers essentially

00:58:29.380 --> 00:58:33.019
a shutdown from the frontal lobe. It cuts off

00:58:33.019 --> 00:58:35.699
access to the frontal lobe. Where's intentional

00:58:35.699 --> 00:58:39.840
motor processed in the frontal lobe? Yeah. So

00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:42.679
they've literally just done the one thing that

00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:46.639
they can do to cut off access. Yeah. Congratulations.

00:58:47.219 --> 00:58:50.420
They're going to limit it to those lower subcortical

00:58:50.420 --> 00:58:55.690
reflexive systems. Yeah. So those are the you

00:58:55.690 --> 00:58:57.289
know, those are the questions. Those are the

00:58:57.289 --> 00:59:00.969
attacks Those are the you know the common questions

00:59:00.969 --> 00:59:03.989
and they're there I don't I don't fault anyone

00:59:03.989 --> 00:59:07.190
for having those questions because they're legitimate

00:59:07.190 --> 00:59:10.570
questions What it shows is that they don't understand

00:59:10.570 --> 00:59:15.050
the physiology or the disability And I'm happy

00:59:15.050 --> 00:59:18.670
to explain that but when I explain it honor what

00:59:18.670 --> 00:59:20.710
I've just shared with you, because it would be

00:59:20.710 --> 00:59:23.610
the equivalent of someone explaining what it's

00:59:23.610 --> 00:59:26.130
like to be blind, what it's like to not hear,

00:59:26.309 --> 00:59:28.849
and that person trying to tell you what they

00:59:28.849 --> 00:59:32.989
need. And then if you disregard it, that is such

00:59:32.989 --> 00:59:37.869
an insult to that person. We don't like whenever

00:59:37.869 --> 00:59:42.750
our ability to think and expand our thought and

00:59:42.750 --> 00:59:45.730
our beliefs are offended. We want everything

00:59:45.730 --> 00:59:48.599
to make sense of everything that we can fit into

00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.639
a box. Well, we want it to match with our experience,

00:59:51.820 --> 00:59:53.659
and we have a really hard time understanding

00:59:53.659 --> 00:59:57.460
someone else's experience. Yeah. It's a big problem.

00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:02.059
Earlier you mentioned eloping, and I was wondering

01:00:02.059 --> 01:00:07.780
if when people can learn to spell, if I just

01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:11.360
envision that this would help that because I

01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:14.739
think maybe a big source of eloping and self

01:00:14.739 --> 01:00:18.679
-injurious behavior too. is not being able to

01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.659
convey their feelings. So, those are great questions.

01:00:23.059 --> 01:00:26.820
Definitely reduced, for sure, but not eliminated.

01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.480
And this kind of goes back to a couple of different

01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:34.900
things. One is that we don't recognize what they're

01:00:34.900 --> 01:00:37.460
experiencing all the time, right? because they're

01:00:37.460 --> 01:00:40.099
just taking in so much more. So what happens

01:00:40.099 --> 01:00:42.880
is there, Houston explained, he goes, sometimes

01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:47.099
my senses become illuminated and it's so painful.

01:00:47.699 --> 01:00:51.380
Well, so here I am, he can spell now, but that

01:00:51.380 --> 01:00:54.400
still wasn't able to help whenever his senses

01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:57.980
became more than he could handle. And in those

01:00:57.980 --> 01:01:00.980
moments, they get very dysregulated and they

01:01:00.980 --> 01:01:05.659
feel so disconnected from their body. And Houston

01:01:05.659 --> 01:01:11.920
experienced it. It's like my spirit is trying

01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:15.880
to catch my body. It's like my body has run off,

01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:20.760
but my spirit can't catch it. And that's part

01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:23.139
of the eloping, is this brain -body disconnect.

01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.000
They are developed fully into their etheric body,

01:01:26.059 --> 01:01:28.940
their spiritual body, and their physical body

01:01:28.940 --> 01:01:31.199
is operating. It's like somebody turned it on

01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:34.909
and let it loose. And so there's this wild disconnect

01:01:34.909 --> 01:01:39.550
between the two. And that's why as a regulation

01:01:39.550 --> 01:01:43.949
partner, I have to understand that and do everything

01:01:43.949 --> 01:01:50.010
I can to create the environment where he doesn't

01:01:50.010 --> 01:01:54.230
lose that connection. Back to that trust thing

01:01:54.230 --> 01:01:59.789
as well. Yeah. There's a big problem with...

01:02:01.179 --> 01:02:03.860
Autistic children eloping and being drawn to

01:02:03.860 --> 01:02:06.360
water that you mentioned and drowning. Yeah,

01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:10.320
it's so sad It is it's horrific now in the water

01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:13.039
in Houston I thought did a beautiful job of explaining

01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:15.880
what they feel but they're drawn to the water

01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:18.619
Because they can feel their bodies it helps them

01:02:18.619 --> 01:02:21.019
to connect back to their body because they can

01:02:21.019 --> 01:02:24.019
feel their whole body at once The problem is

01:02:24.019 --> 01:02:26.440
the very thing that gives them that piece and

01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:31.360
they can feel they can feel this metaphysical

01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:33.719
energy that's all around is they can actually

01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:37.840
feel it in the water. It's greater than we have

01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.099
the ability to experience, but they can experience.

01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:44.000
And so they're desperately drawn to the water.

01:02:45.380 --> 01:02:49.760
But of course, many times they can't swim. Yeah,

01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:53.980
they can't swim. Because that's a highly, highly

01:02:53.980 --> 01:02:56.739
complicated motor skill, and they are motor impaired.

01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:03.789
Wow. I can't help but think of water is also,

01:03:04.130 --> 01:03:08.110
especially natural water. There's so many bioelectric

01:03:08.110 --> 01:03:11.710
signals being from the earth. The water is living.

01:03:11.849 --> 01:03:14.010
The water has memory. The water is incredible.

01:03:14.869 --> 01:03:19.789
We don't even understand how everything is energy.

01:03:20.010 --> 01:03:22.230
And that's what people kind of miss. They think

01:03:22.230 --> 01:03:24.849
we're machines and we're not. Everything's energy.

01:03:25.050 --> 01:03:27.289
Thought is energy. Emotion is energy. Matter

01:03:27.289 --> 01:03:30.110
is energy. That's what E equals MC squared means

01:03:30.110 --> 01:03:33.469
is that energy and matter are the same thing

01:03:33.469 --> 01:03:37.909
measured in different ways. Electrons and protons.

01:03:38.309 --> 01:03:40.309
You mentioned electrons earlier. That's what

01:03:40.309 --> 01:03:46.369
we are at the mitochondrial level. But that's

01:03:46.369 --> 01:03:50.630
the whole thing is that we're spirit too. And

01:03:50.630 --> 01:03:56.150
all matter comes from spirit. Matter is just

01:03:56.150 --> 01:04:02.489
the slowest, most densest form of energy. And,

01:04:02.730 --> 01:04:07.130
you know, have you ever like, lie down on a beautiful

01:04:07.130 --> 01:04:09.630
blue sky day, and you can look and you can actually

01:04:09.630 --> 01:04:12.210
see all the like, the little molecules and everything

01:04:12.210 --> 01:04:15.010
moving and everything. And he said, he said,

01:04:15.150 --> 01:04:18.030
you have no idea how much energy is in each one.

01:04:18.030 --> 01:04:20.969
And they're all transferring information constantly.

01:04:21.630 --> 01:04:24.650
And that's still somewhat physical because we

01:04:24.650 --> 01:04:28.130
can actually somewhat barely visualize that.

01:04:28.570 --> 01:04:31.210
What we don't recognize is that we as human beings

01:04:31.210 --> 01:04:36.210
only process 4 % of the actual energy. See the

01:04:36.210 --> 01:04:39.010
idea that in we could observe with our physical

01:04:39.010 --> 01:04:42.050
senses with only 4 % of the information that

01:04:42.050 --> 01:04:46.230
we could discern what is the full vast accuracy

01:04:46.230 --> 01:04:50.869
of truth is really arrogant. Humans are arrogant

01:04:50.869 --> 01:04:54.670
though. Yeah. We can even look at animals and

01:04:54.670 --> 01:05:00.269
see that they sense more than we do. They are

01:05:00.269 --> 01:05:03.269
way more connected to nature than us and we're

01:05:03.269 --> 01:05:07.929
part of nature. Yeah, yeah. That's a big problem.

01:05:08.489 --> 01:05:12.050
We've removed ourselves from nature. Humans are

01:05:12.050 --> 01:05:14.809
the only people or species that say that we're

01:05:14.809 --> 01:05:17.920
the most dominant. Specie and I don't I don't

01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.760
think we were supposed to be like the way God

01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:25.579
made us was to care for Not to dominate that

01:05:25.579 --> 01:05:29.219
we were supposed to be the caretakers of earth

01:05:29.219 --> 01:05:34.000
Houston talks about the lost love that That we

01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:38.199
were supposed to love nature love creation love

01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:40.739
the earth and that's this lost love and it's

01:05:40.739 --> 01:05:45.420
like All creation is like crying out for us to

01:05:45.420 --> 01:05:52.320
love nature, to love creation, to love God. Here's

01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:58.119
the disconnect, right? Have you ever read C .S.

01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:02.730
Lewis, The Abolition of Man? No. It's a good

01:06:02.730 --> 01:06:06.309
book, but basically he talks about how basically

01:06:06.309 --> 01:06:09.530
man like there's this like these primal forces

01:06:09.530 --> 01:06:13.889
at work, right and Essentially that man in his

01:06:13.889 --> 01:06:16.670
search for progress is actually going to destroy

01:06:16.670 --> 01:06:21.570
itself and That's kind of like the point that

01:06:21.570 --> 01:06:23.250
he's making is all these things that we think

01:06:23.250 --> 01:06:27.130
are our progress are actually the elimination

01:06:27.130 --> 01:06:31.030
of us And he makes some fantastic points. And

01:06:31.030 --> 01:06:33.630
he's trying to get us to get back to, you know,

01:06:33.710 --> 01:06:36.070
what is intrinsic about being a human being.

01:06:36.630 --> 01:06:40.670
And that is in our, it's our spiritual nature.

01:06:40.849 --> 01:06:43.630
And the thing about our spiritual nature is we

01:06:43.630 --> 01:06:51.010
should be valuing what is good and not valuing

01:06:51.010 --> 01:06:55.019
what is destructive. we should be able to recognize

01:06:55.019 --> 01:06:59.960
those and stop one and seek the other. And that's

01:06:59.960 --> 01:07:02.440
with doing the opposite. We're stopping what

01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:05.440
is spiritual and good and we're seeking what

01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:09.800
is destructive. And so there's this basically

01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:13.559
this war between essentially the machine, everything

01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:16.960
that's artificial, or everything that's living,

01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:20.010
everything that's from God. And that is the that

01:07:20.010 --> 01:07:23.210
is the war that is going on and you know, this

01:07:23.210 --> 01:07:25.469
whole artificial movement is this essentially

01:07:25.469 --> 01:07:29.690
this move to replace us To essentially eliminate

01:07:29.690 --> 01:07:32.309
us and so what is the answer to the machine?

01:07:32.349 --> 01:07:34.369
And of course absolutely rage against the machine

01:07:34.369 --> 01:07:37.989
on all levels, but the answer to the machine

01:07:37.989 --> 01:07:41.389
is life Everything living everything that is

01:07:41.389 --> 01:07:43.230
true. Everything is good. Everything that comes

01:07:43.230 --> 01:07:46.510
from God everything that is a that is biological,

01:07:46.530 --> 01:07:49.610
that is from the earth, that is from humans,

01:07:49.690 --> 01:07:52.630
that is from, you know, God, that he created

01:07:52.630 --> 01:07:57.250
more and more and more and more of that. Instead,

01:07:58.010 --> 01:08:03.769
we, you know, bulldoze forest and put up concrete,

01:08:03.769 --> 01:08:08.389
you know, and we put all this EMF energy out

01:08:08.389 --> 01:08:11.130
into not recognizing, not even caring that it

01:08:11.130 --> 01:08:16.960
has horrific impact on on ecosystems and on human

01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:22.479
beings. Yeah. Including us. Yeah. It's like we're

01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:25.039
creating our own destruction. Yeah, yeah. That's

01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:28.960
very accurate. That's exactly what we're doing.

01:08:30.779 --> 01:08:33.680
How old was Houston whenever you first realized

01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:37.869
about the telepathy? He was 21. It was not that

01:08:37.869 --> 01:08:40.109
long after he had started communicating. It was

01:08:40.109 --> 01:08:44.050
just like probably the next week, maybe two weeks.

01:08:44.409 --> 01:08:46.949
And I couldn't figure out how he knew so much.

01:08:47.090 --> 01:08:50.289
And I was like, do you just have like really

01:08:50.289 --> 01:08:55.550
good hearing? I can hear thoughts. And I was

01:08:55.550 --> 01:08:58.569
like, I didn't believe him. I mean, who would

01:08:58.569 --> 01:09:01.050
believe that? Right. And so I started testing

01:09:01.050 --> 01:09:05.760
him and he was 100%. And then I started testing

01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:09.100
him without speaking, and he was answering my

01:09:09.100 --> 01:09:14.560
questions without me speaking. How was that?

01:09:14.699 --> 01:09:17.220
I mean, how did you, what was that like for you?

01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:22.500
I immediately realized thought is a thing. Yeah.

01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.600
It's energy. And so people don't under, you know,

01:09:25.699 --> 01:09:28.319
the thing about if it's energy, it has to abide

01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:30.479
by the laws of energy. The very first law of

01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:33.880
energy is the law of conservation. That nothing

01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:36.239
is created or destroyed. It is only transferred.

01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:42.399
So we need to be taking all everything and transferring

01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:47.060
it to what's good. That's the shift that has

01:09:47.060 --> 01:09:49.880
to happen. And when Houston talks about like

01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:52.239
world, world change is possible. Like this is

01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:56.189
really why this is why they are here. They are

01:09:56.189 --> 01:09:59.010
here for this extraordinary purpose to not just

01:09:59.010 --> 01:10:01.810
get us to like look good on the outside and still

01:10:01.810 --> 01:10:05.029
be rotten on the inside They're they're trying

01:10:05.029 --> 01:10:09.170
to show us that the idea of privacy is an illusion

01:10:09.170 --> 01:10:12.909
That all our thoughts are already known. They

01:10:12.909 --> 01:10:15.750
are real. They are working They're doing what

01:10:15.750 --> 01:10:18.649
we're thinking and we need to change our thoughts

01:10:18.649 --> 01:10:22.430
and take every thought captive and make it obedient

01:10:22.430 --> 01:10:26.399
to the love and the Word of God And then we can

01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:33.260
actually start to see the profound change. Mood

01:10:33.260 --> 01:10:38.960
follows action. How we're acting will determine

01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:44.779
our thoughts. Huh. Well, actually, our thoughts

01:10:44.779 --> 01:10:49.039
can determine our actions. Yeah, definitely.

01:10:49.579 --> 01:10:55.350
But we tend to be reactive. and let our situations

01:10:55.350 --> 01:10:59.770
influence our thoughts. Instead of saying, I

01:10:59.770 --> 01:11:02.649
see this really bad situation. What promise of

01:11:02.649 --> 01:11:05.670
God can I take and apply to this situation? I'm

01:11:05.670 --> 01:11:08.390
going to disregard the situation and I'm going

01:11:08.390 --> 01:11:11.430
to instead apply the truth of God to this situation.

01:11:13.369 --> 01:11:19.430
Keeps us on track. Temptation. Yes, it is. Doubt

01:11:19.430 --> 01:11:24.529
is the greatest temptation. Matthew four. Yeah.

01:11:26.229 --> 01:11:31.090
Matthew four. So since you learned about the

01:11:31.090 --> 01:11:37.390
telepathy, has that helped? Can you just explain

01:11:37.390 --> 01:11:41.529
to me about what that's like now and how it's

01:11:41.529 --> 01:11:46.569
changed your guys's life? Well, there's no privacy.

01:11:49.059 --> 01:11:52.239
Yeah. It has made me utterly and completely take

01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:55.520
ownership of my thoughts. So that has had a profound

01:11:55.520 --> 01:12:00.979
impact on my life. Almost like in 100 % positive

01:12:00.979 --> 01:12:05.479
way. Yes. Yes. Right. I think it's a wonderful

01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:07.100
thing. I think it's the best thing that could

01:12:07.100 --> 01:12:13.680
possibly have happened to me. Wow. Yeah, I mean

01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:15.939
I think all of us are okay with God knowing that

01:12:15.939 --> 01:12:18.300
we have really rotten thoughts when we shouldn't

01:12:18.300 --> 01:12:21.659
be We should be going God that dishonors you.

01:12:21.739 --> 01:12:24.180
I don't I don't want that thought in your world

01:12:24.180 --> 01:12:27.260
I don't want that thought in me. I want everything

01:12:27.260 --> 01:12:31.979
I do to honor you And I fail. I mean, I please

01:12:31.979 --> 01:12:34.819
don't think that I've got this under like I fail

01:12:34.819 --> 01:12:38.680
at it every single day Oh, we all do right, but

01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:43.170
I don't want to yeah And I think that's big,

01:12:43.750 --> 01:12:48.609
your desire and intent. And so now when I fail,

01:12:48.750 --> 01:12:53.310
I'm like, okay, wait, what was the lie I've just

01:12:53.310 --> 01:12:56.529
believed? What lie did I just believe? Identify

01:12:56.529 --> 01:12:59.189
the lie, cast it out, get rid of it, and go,

01:12:59.189 --> 01:13:01.890
what's the truth? What truth do I need to apply

01:13:01.890 --> 01:13:06.149
instead? And then do that. And I'm doing that

01:13:06.149 --> 01:13:10.869
all day long. And there's some things that I

01:13:10.869 --> 01:13:12.930
struggle with more, like loneliness is really

01:13:12.930 --> 01:13:16.350
hard, right? And autism is incredibly isolating

01:13:16.350 --> 01:13:19.949
and we have to be, we don't get to do a lot.

01:13:20.270 --> 01:13:25.869
And of course, because I have to care for him

01:13:25.869 --> 01:13:30.569
full time and work full time, I've got, there's

01:13:30.569 --> 01:13:33.649
not a lot of resources, right? That's a lie.

01:13:34.430 --> 01:13:38.399
That is a lie. It's an accurate representation

01:13:38.399 --> 01:13:42.159
of the current framework, but it is not a belief

01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:45.239
that I should ever hold on to. The reality is

01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:49.399
he's Jehovah Jireh, the Lord supplies all my

01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:52.340
needs. The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.

01:13:52.899 --> 01:13:57.039
So what am I to do in this situation? I am to

01:13:57.039 --> 01:13:59.680
believe. I am to go, Lord, you know I need this.

01:13:59.779 --> 01:14:02.720
I know you supply all my needs. I know this is

01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:04.920
a need that's in your will. Of course you want

01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:07.300
me to have what I need. Of course you do. You

01:14:07.300 --> 01:14:11.800
love me. You're my father. And so I have to,

01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:17.619
instead of looking at the angst, replace it with,

01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:20.920
yes, the angst is here. And I don't let that

01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:23.779
tell me what to think. I let your word tell me

01:14:23.779 --> 01:14:27.699
what to think. Has to be the ultimate accountability.

01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:33.180
You can shorten that lag time of like, you recognize

01:14:33.180 --> 01:14:37.699
a problem. Instead of just letting it go unresolved

01:14:37.699 --> 01:14:41.680
and closing that loop, not fixing it, you get

01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:44.819
it right there. I do. And I will say that that

01:14:44.819 --> 01:14:50.539
has a powerful impact. I talk to other people

01:14:50.539 --> 01:14:54.500
who haven't gotten there yet, and I can see it's

01:14:54.500 --> 01:14:59.539
almost like they're mired down in this mud pit,

01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:02.250
where they can't... get out like molasses, right?

01:15:02.329 --> 01:15:04.430
Like molasses swamp, right? You know, kind of

01:15:04.430 --> 01:15:09.270
like candy land. Whereas, that's what's so incredibly

01:15:09.270 --> 01:15:11.770
powerful about, you know, taking ownership of

01:15:11.770 --> 01:15:13.829
your thoughts. You're like, Nope, I'm out. I'm

01:15:13.829 --> 01:15:15.689
not getting I'm sorry. I'm not saying in this.

01:15:15.930 --> 01:15:19.609
No, you don't have me. You don't own me. I'm

01:15:19.609 --> 01:15:23.289
my father's child. You know, and we of course,

01:15:23.369 --> 01:15:25.829
we're constantly being attacked because the enemy

01:15:25.829 --> 01:15:28.819
does not want us to believe God. That is the

01:15:28.819 --> 01:15:32.500
original sin. The original sin was doubting God.

01:15:33.579 --> 01:15:35.220
And why do people, people are like, why is faith

01:15:35.220 --> 01:15:37.180
so important? I'm like, well, look at the original

01:15:37.180 --> 01:15:41.600
sin. It was doubt. I mean, faith is trusting

01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:45.840
that God has every single thing that you need,

01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:48.840
that no matter, even though it might take a very

01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:51.800
long time, you know, and that gets scary and

01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:55.569
you get lonely and you get worried that That

01:15:55.569 --> 01:15:58.869
worry and that fear is not the answer the answer

01:15:58.869 --> 01:16:03.270
in that waiting is to keep At it keep believing

01:16:03.270 --> 01:16:06.810
keep knocking at the door keep persisting keep

01:16:06.810 --> 01:16:11.829
saying no No to the enemy. No Yeah, my god says

01:16:11.829 --> 01:16:14.930
this I will not listen to you. I will listen

01:16:14.930 --> 01:16:18.250
to my father Yeah, and that was a habit too.

01:16:18.250 --> 01:16:21.590
So you'll you become more of that? Just like

01:16:21.590 --> 01:16:23.800
if you wouldn't resolve it you would just let

01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:26.960
it go, you become more of that. Which is why

01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:30.300
I went into that pit of despair for so long,

01:16:30.659 --> 01:16:34.000
because I did let those thoughts take over. And

01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:37.819
once I let doubt in, because the first, the prayer

01:16:37.819 --> 01:16:40.340
that I was believing so strongly was, you know,

01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:42.199
all things work together for good of those who

01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:44.000
love God who are called according to His purpose.

01:16:44.380 --> 01:16:47.060
And then when I believed that I doubted that

01:16:47.060 --> 01:16:48.920
there was any way God could keep that promise.

01:16:49.340 --> 01:16:52.420
And my specific thought was about the feces.

01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:55.260
Here, I'm cleaning up all these feces. And I

01:16:55.260 --> 01:16:57.279
couldn't believe because there was too much of

01:16:57.279 --> 01:16:59.260
it. I'm like, I could believe that you could

01:16:59.260 --> 01:17:02.380
make one or two or three or four. But I'm like,

01:17:02.380 --> 01:17:04.720
this is five to eight times a day for years.

01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:08.960
There's no way that you could bring all this

01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:13.680
feces for good. You can't do it. It's not possible.

01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:17.220
And so I started doubting God. And that's when

01:17:17.220 --> 01:17:20.729
the fear came in. It was like, once that fear

01:17:20.729 --> 01:17:24.890
came in, it was like, I couldn't get out from

01:17:24.890 --> 01:17:30.770
under it. And when Houston first started communicating,

01:17:30.869 --> 01:17:33.369
one of the very first things he said to me, and

01:17:33.369 --> 01:17:37.609
mind you, I'm a sweet, loving person. I really

01:17:37.609 --> 01:17:41.329
am. One of the first things he said to me was,

01:17:41.470 --> 01:17:44.840
all your thoughts are rotten. that killed me

01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:47.539
because I was such a, like in my thought, if

01:17:47.539 --> 01:17:51.619
I'm sweet and nice and kind and good, like, but

01:17:51.619 --> 01:17:54.079
it wasn't because my thoughts were all fear,

01:17:54.340 --> 01:17:57.539
all doubt, all despair. And he said, and it was

01:17:57.539 --> 01:18:00.479
my, it was my doubt. And he said, you are literally

01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:03.239
destroying the very things you're praying for

01:18:03.239 --> 01:18:07.899
with your doubt. So we think that like, we, we

01:18:07.899 --> 01:18:10.199
don't think like, we don't realize that like,

01:18:10.420 --> 01:18:15.489
just like faith, works, so does doubt. Yeah,

01:18:16.029 --> 01:18:19.890
it's like the antidote. And so, I mean, that's

01:18:19.890 --> 01:18:22.210
why we have to completely and utterly and totally

01:18:22.210 --> 01:18:24.390
reject it. Anyway, you look at the Word of God

01:18:24.390 --> 01:18:26.210
and it's like, do not fear, do not doubt, do

01:18:26.210 --> 01:18:29.149
not fear, do not doubt. It's like every single,

01:18:29.189 --> 01:18:31.689
there's 365 times I think it says where it says

01:18:31.689 --> 01:18:33.970
do not fear, like one for every day of the year,

01:18:34.170 --> 01:18:37.289
right? Do not fear, do not fear. The answer to

01:18:37.289 --> 01:18:40.689
every single thing is trust God. Do not lean

01:18:40.689 --> 01:18:43.930
on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge

01:18:43.930 --> 01:18:46.630
Him and He will direct your paths. Trust in Lord

01:18:46.630 --> 01:18:49.670
with all your heart. Lean not on your own understanding.

01:18:50.550 --> 01:18:55.170
And our understanding is what we see. And here

01:18:55.170 --> 01:19:04.449
I am 25 years later and I'm telling you that

01:19:04.449 --> 01:19:07.649
I thought there was no way that God could bring

01:19:07.649 --> 01:19:12.220
good from all of that. feces and I am telling

01:19:12.220 --> 01:19:16.100
you that I was wrong and God has brought more

01:19:16.100 --> 01:19:20.119
good than I could possibly ever have even imagined

01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:27.779
from all of that feces So Someone wrote it did

01:19:27.779 --> 01:19:31.239
a review and they said that these people but

01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:35.180
after what they have experienced Can have an

01:19:35.180 --> 01:19:38.819
undeniable? Trust in the goodness of God. Who

01:19:38.819 --> 01:19:44.920
am I to doubt it? And I stand by that. God is

01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:52.380
good. No matter how bad it is, God is good. Well

01:19:52.380 --> 01:19:56.640
said, Katie. I actually have to get going now

01:19:56.640 --> 01:19:58.899
because I've got to get Houston to his next therapy.

01:19:59.899 --> 01:20:03.319
I'm glad he popped in. I know, I am too. He also

01:20:03.319 --> 01:20:08.319
popped open several cokes. I heard them. He snuck

01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:11.739
into the garage and got him his brother's stash.

01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:15.739
I'm forever grateful for our conversation. Oh,

01:20:15.819 --> 01:20:18.979
thank you. I thank you for having me. Can you

01:20:18.979 --> 01:20:23.720
let us know how to contact you? Yeah, let me

01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:28.819
show everybody. So this is the book, the Book

01:20:28.819 --> 01:20:33.060
of Heaven. If my daughter is, I know everybody

01:20:33.060 --> 01:20:35.260
asks this question, she is making an audio book.

01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.960
Close to being done. I don't have a date. She

01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:45.520
asked me to stop asking her for a date. I am

01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:51.340
on X, capital K, capital T, capital A. It's Asher5.

01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:57.000
I have Asher House Hope on Instagram and TikTok.

01:20:58.779 --> 01:21:01.659
And I'm on Facebook and I have an email address

01:21:01.659 --> 01:21:05.720
in the book. It's asherhouse .hope. Uh, at gmail

01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:10.380
.com. I'm I obviously I work full time and take

01:21:10.380 --> 01:21:13.220
care of Houston full time. I do my best to reply

01:21:13.220 --> 01:21:16.720
to people. Uh, if I don't, it's not because I

01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:19.119
am not trying. It's just cause I've got a lot

01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:24.560
on me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you so much. Yeah.

01:21:24.579 --> 01:21:27.060
Thank you, Ryan. It's really nice to be here.

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Yeah. Do I need to stay on longer for it to like

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update or anything? No. Once you, once you stop

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it should be fine. All right. You have a great

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day. Thanks. You too. Bye -bye.