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Welcome to From the Spectrum Podcast. This is

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a podcast about autism. It is my goal to explain

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what is autism. I plan to use a mixture of scientific

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literature, personal experience, and opinion.

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With opinion, I will explain why I feel the way

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I do and give examples. I will provide links

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to various references for each episode. For each

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episode, we will discuss various aspects of autism.

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The From the Spectrum podcast will mostly avoid

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causes of autism, and I will try to avoid the

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increase of diagnoses of late. This is like playing

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tug of war with barbed wire. and I don't think

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I want to travel down that path. For today's

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episode, we will explore the roles of oxytocin

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and vasopressin with human development, human

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socialness, and the implications to autism. We

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will briefly do some time traveling to understand

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the phylogenetics of oxytocin and vasopressin.

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We will expand on some components of the excitation

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inhibition balance, discuss more serotonin, dopamine,

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and the line between socialness and anxiety,

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while connecting many brain regions and functions

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previously discussed. For today's episode, we

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have several objectives. 1. Introduce oxytocin

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and vasopressin. 2. Prepare to discuss vast differences

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found between female and male autistics in a

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future episode. 3. To prepare. for the episode

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on autism and relationships. Four, to expand

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on the excitation inhibition phenomena that is

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very worthy in autism. And finally, number five,

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to learn more about what is autism. Oxytocin

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and vasopressin. Oxytocin is commonly known as

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a love hormone and that's true. Both oxytocin

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and vasopressin are unique and dynamic parts

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of our biology. The phylogeny of oxytocin and

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vasopressin date back 700 million years ago and

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is found in many different species through evolution.

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Primarily, back then, there were lower vertebrates.

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Back before, humans and more complex organisms

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were found on Earth. This hormone is vasotocin.

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You can see a combination of vasopressin and

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oxytocin. We could cover a lot here because of

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the amount of history, but we can't. We can't

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cover everything regarding our topic in modern

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humans, development, and autism. However, the

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division of vasotocin into vasopressin and oxytocin

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appears to help create more complex organisms

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like humans. Oxytocin and vasopressin are both

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peptides and hormones and have three modes of

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transmission. They have three methods of getting

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around the body. One is endocrine, so a hormone.

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Hormones use the blood to transport and hormones

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are very slow acting, especially compared to

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cellular functions. Hormones act more to change

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us and build us based on experiences over time.

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The second mode is paracrine released in dendrites

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and cell bodies and into cerebrospinal fluid

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or CSF. The CSF is a method to check levels of

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oxytocin or vasopressin in the body. This is

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a very challenging test. Not only the spinal

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tap is challenging, but finding accurate amounts

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of oxytocin and vasopressin. Now you can do it

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maybe in a lab draw, a blood draw, but it's hard

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to capture them because one, they have a short

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half -life. They don't hang around in the body.

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And two, you're likely only to see metabolites.

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It won't be a very accurate test. So a more accurate

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test is the spinal tap, and that's not necessarily

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a feasible thing, something that people want

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to do. The third is synaptic release, used for

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transporting to other brain regions. This is

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the neuropeptide or neurotransmitter type. Okay,

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so what are peptides? Peptides are a chain of

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protein collections. Oxytocin and vasopressin

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are very fascinating whereby they are very similar

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and they have a smaller complex or smaller collection

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of proteins. Each oxytocin and vasopressin each

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contain nine proteins. These are very special

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types of proteins. Amino acids. We've discussed

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some amino acids like tryptophan and tyrosine.

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Those are aromatic amino acids. Remember, serotonin

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comes from tryptophan and dopamine, epinephrine,

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norepinephrine, and melanin comes from tyrosine.

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And remember our discussion on these special

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amino acids the aromatic amino acids that need

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280 nanometer wavelength light which is UVB light

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to activate and think about how our light environment

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has changed let's say from modern day and all

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the different light sources to the 1930s just

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a change between that time frame when autism

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was first kind of observed remember Leo Kanner

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and Hans Asperger now let's think about modern

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day to let's say 200 years ago when things like

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autism and Alzheimer's didn't even exist this

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part of the environment and how our human biology

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is created with photoreceptors and such is going

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to be crucial. We will discuss serotonin and

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dopamine more in a little bit. Human biology

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loves these proteins. Oxytocin and vasopressin

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share seven of the nine proteins. So only two

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proteins make these two different. But remember

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the evolution. In complex organisms, they separated,

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they divided. But still today, in smaller or

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lower complex, less complex organisms, they still

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remain one. Okay, taking a brief step towards

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the upstream. of the neuropeptide. We're going

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to go just a little bit upstream. These neuropeptides

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come from two cell types. Magnocellular and parvocellular.

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I first learned about these while studying the

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eyes. Magnocellular provides information about

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large and fast objects. They are low spatial

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and high temporal, meaning low space, high time,

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fast time. And do not pick up color. They are

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color blind. Parvo Cellular provides information

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about small and slow objects and does see color.

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They are high spatial and low temporal. Magnocellular

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peptides release large quantities in the central

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and peripheral nervous system. This peripheral

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path will come into play later when we discuss

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intranasal oxytocin as a treatment option. Whereas

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parvocellular releases small quantities in the

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central nervous system. In large part, to support

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reward processes, social cognition, and pair

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bonding. Downstream, Magnocellular is responsible

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for parental attachment, buffering, fear and

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anxiety, and emotional or affective empathy.

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Remember, we've discussed that. And hypersensitivity.

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Parvocellular is responsible for various other

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types of attachment. outside of the parental

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attachment, such as peer -to -peer, now we're

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getting somewhere, and cognitive flexibility

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and social recognition memory, cognitive empathy,

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being able to understand others without knowing,

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just by looking at them, that so -called theory

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of mind, and lack of social motivation. So that's

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Magnocellular and Parvocellular. Now, these distinct

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pathways to a single molecule, the idea is the

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parallel paths for processing the social information

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allows a single molecule, such as the oxytocin,

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to encode multiple types of behaviors. And in

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my opinion, this is a huge finding. This was

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released in 2020. Furthermore, this idea of the

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Magnocellular and Parvocellular paths is new.

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Around 2015 or so, when this was really mentioned

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in the scientific literature, a keynote or To

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show appreciation, a researcher from Johns Hopkins

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does excellent work on this. Her last name is

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Dolan, I believe. Okay, back to oxytocin and

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vasopressin. Oxytocin is central to human reproduction

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and evolution, transforming us into complex organisms.

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especially the nervous system, specifically socialness

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and cognition. The peptides have connections

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with making us upright through evolution. Remember,

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humans are one of the few or the only species

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completely upright and oxytocin has a role with

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that. and developing our large cortex, the area

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of the brain above the imaginary line that we've

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previously discussed from the eyes to the back

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of the head. Remember, our heads extend up unlike

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any other species. It's fully developed. Also,

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connections with our coranium This complex human

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brain then gives us social sensitivity, complex

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thinking capacities, and language. Speech and

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language comes after song and dance. Correct.

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It was song and dance first and then speech and

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language through our evolution. The pair bonding

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allows us to sustain our species, the connection

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of reproduction, birthing process, and mother

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-child relationships. Lastly, it supports healing

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and is an antioxidant and anti -inflammatory,

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all crucial across the lifespan. Just a note.

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Veso and vasopressin means vessel. Vasopressin

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has many functions related to the circulatory

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system. A sidebar. If you have ever felt light

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-headed, maybe you stood up too fast or you're

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straining too much or too hard, that is vasovagal.

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Vessels. and the vagus nerve, a major cranium

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nerve for regulating and acting on the parasympathetic

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side of the nervous system, the calming side.

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Vasopressin has vast roles in blood pressure,

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sodium regulation, and interacting with water.

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Vasopressin is seen more in males than females.

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and it does interact with that crude stress system

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and fear, anxiety, and aggression. Anyway, oxytocin

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and vasopressin, by the way of the magnocellular

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and parvocellular, are released in the hypothalamus.

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Remember, we've discussed the hypothalamus at

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least a few times. Oxytocin and vasopressin are

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transported by dendrites and axons. Remember

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how cells connect and communicate to each other

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and remember the genetic and protein implications

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covered in episode 3. Oxytocin is distributed

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to sensory areas of the brain and large part

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for social relevant stimuli. Oxytocin mediates

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communication in the amygdala. Remember the amygdala

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mostly from autism and anxiety episode. Oxytocin

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mediates fear response and coping between two

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subdivisions in the amygdala. And oxytocin is

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used for synaptic transmission between the BNST,

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the bad nucleus of the stria terminalis and the

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hypothalamus. More from the autism and anxiety

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episode. Remember those two connections, the

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amygdala to the bad stria terminalis was consistent

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in those three dynamic structures and components

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that we covered in the autism. and anxiety episode.

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Oxytocin also interacts closely to dopamine and

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serotonin those two neuromodulators previously

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discussed. Remember dopamine is wanting and serotonin

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is having. Oxytocin also interacts with GABA.

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Remember the excitation is glutamate. The inhibition

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is GABA. So this makes up that EI, that EI imbalance

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that is constant and consistent. Perhaps the

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most consistent thing in autism research about

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biology is this imbalance of excitation and inhibition.

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We will discuss more on GABA, the inhibition

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part. Also, oxytocin Increases trust. Remember

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that the root of that pair bonding and mother

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-child development. So some overall trust. Some

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empathy. Remember we discussed the two types

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of empathy from Magnocellular and Parvocellular.

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And eye contact. Oxytocin is related to eye contact.

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Face memory. and generosity. These peptides decreases

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activity of negative emotional experiences. And

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guess where? The amygdala, the anterior cingulate

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cortex, and the insula. All areas from autism

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and adaptive responses episode. The peptides

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increase responses for automatic and effortful

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emotional regulation in the medial prefrontal

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cortex, also the region of interest in autism

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and adaptive responses episode. The peptides

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targets motivational and rewarding regions by

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initiating and sustaining socialness by acting

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on the ventral tegmental area. Remember from

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Autism and Anxiety, the Autism and Anxiety episode,

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the VTA is the spot for providing valence or

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attaching how we feel in that moment, in that

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environment. Hopefully, this is all coming together

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now. Oxytocin also targets three of the four

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areas in the striatum. The putamen and caudate,

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which is the dorsal part of the striatum. The

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putamen and caudate is responsible for stimulus

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response memories. Remember, we've discussed

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stimulants responses. Those reflexive actions

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all humans do. in response to something in the

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environment, the external stimuli. The stimulus

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response intends to return the individual back

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to homeostasis, back to the comfort that they

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prefer, that they've learned, that they've developed

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through neuroplasticity, returning us as the

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living organism back to comfort. And remember,

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One, because our nervous system mostly just responds

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based on who we are, based on our lifetime of

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neuroplasticity. And two, change is hard. Change

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is hard because the nervous system doesn't like

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to work. It likes to reflexively respond, pass

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things on to what it knows, how it knows. how

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it knows how to operate, acting in a way it knows.

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See, this is more than a discussion on autism.

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This is human life. We are who we are. A brief

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note, a brief review of this study comparing

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autistics and non -autistics, reward processing,

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altered in large part at the cellular level with

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the autism group the autistic groups using two

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activities the first one is monetary rewards

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found in the ventral striatum remember the ventral

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striatum in large part is the nucleus accumbens

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our hotspot for rewards and the ACC which we

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discussed in depth a previous episode and the

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prefrontal cortex and the second activity was

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reduced activity in the striatum during positive

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socialness for instance seeing smiling faces

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and remember theory of mind also called cognitive

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empathy which we discussed earlier this is a

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super deficit But effective empathy is not. It

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is a possible superpower. We will discuss more

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on that in the future. So you can see from the

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study the differences between autistics and non

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-autistics and how different brain regions are

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activated based on those two activities. Receiving

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monetary rewards and experiencing positive socialness.

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This lack of reward attached to socialness prevents

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social learning opportunities as far back as

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that critical period. And if you understand the

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social phenotypes of autism, they are very, how

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do I say they are behind or uneducated and poor.

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things like loud and soft tone, porosity, when

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and how to join and end a conversation, speaking

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too much on a specific topic, despite obvious,

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well, to others, not so much for us, obvious,

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this interest in the topic by the listener. In

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addition, to these areas, there are hypo -connectivity

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to downstream or connecting brain regions used

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in socialness, providing more proof and insight

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on what causes the autistic phenotypes, explaining

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what and who we are. This is giving you understanding

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to maybe calm any tendency. of wanting to change

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someone with autism because they are different

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than you. I did not say, you can't help them

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build social skills. I would not say that. However,

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if an autistic prefers being less active in socialness,

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the so -called autistic aloneness. Remember the

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paper by Leo Kanner. That first paper on autism

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released in 1943, he highlighted this quite extensively.

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Be mindful. Autism gives us the ability to be

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comfortable within ourselves. And this is a path

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for developing tremendous superpowers. In autism,

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data exists on lower levels of peripheral and

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central oxytocin and deficient and altered expression

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of oxytocin receptors in both animal and human

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research. In addition, data also show the lower

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plasma oxytocin are present in children and not

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so much adolescent or adult autistics. This critical

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in the role of oxytocin and development. I think

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this is a good finding in correlation a meta

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-analysis using 18 studies examined and determined

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this finding and that was released in 2021. Oxytocin

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and serotonin. Oxytocin and serotonin appears

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to be the driving force in the role of supporting

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anxiety -like features and supports socialness.

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The dorsal raffae, the raffae is the brain serotonin,

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receives oxytocin fibers and the raffae has oxytocin

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receptors. This action causes a release of serotonin,

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specifically to frontal brain regions. And remember,

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serotonin's role in active versus passive coping.

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In contrast, studies show genetically removing

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this connection after childbirth resulted in

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offspring loss. Remember the developmental roles.

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The impaired nursing increased aggression and

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behavior complications. When oxytocin and serotonin

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work in concert, it provides a perception of

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rewarding socialness occurring. In other words,

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when socialness is rewarding, coordinated activity

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of oxytocin and serotonin is required. And it

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goes to that ventral striatum area, the nucleus

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accumbens. Said differently, a lack of oxytocin

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prevents social enjoyment. And now, just a brief

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note, when we discuss female versus male autistics,

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the nucleus accumbens and oxytocin is gonna be

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huge. This was a huge finding. Anyway, data on

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various modeled organisms and humans show various

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oxytocin and serotonin connections including

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in the prefrontal cortex, that area that makes

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us the superior species on earth, and the amygdala,

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the striatal areas, and interesting, serotonin

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regulates the release of oxytocin in one of the

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areas of the hypothalamus. So three things of

00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:59.539
interest here. One, the reward processing. Two,

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the fear response. And three, the social -emotional

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processing. Doxytocin and dopamine. The roles

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in dopamine primarily stick to the main roles

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of dopamine. That is, connecting brain regions

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based on wanting, motivation, and craving. What

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you find rewarding and aspects of cognitive processing

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and sensory gating. This is a good one. Remember

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dopamine is a neuromodulator and it conducts

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whole systems. It turns things on, turns certain

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brain regions on or whole systems throughout

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the body. It activates them and it turns things

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off. Little brain regions or entire systems,

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biological systems, it inactivates them and it

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regulates action through the nervous system.

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Dopamine has two receptor types. Dopamine has

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five total receptors broken down into two types.

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D1 is excitation, and that's dopamine receptor

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one and five. And D2 is inhibition. These are

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dopamine receptors two, three, and four. D2 type

00:31:36.099 --> 00:31:41.920
receptors are inhibition. So, Now we will introduce

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GABA, which is inhibition. In autism, dysregulation

00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:53.819
of GABA receptors exists in the data. Remember

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one of those components or reasons that gives

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us the EI imbalance. Remember a critical role

00:32:01.420 --> 00:32:06.099
of GABA, which is inhibitory, turning things

00:32:06.099 --> 00:32:10.049
off or quieting the brain. One of GABA's main

00:32:10.049 --> 00:32:16.009
roles is regulating sensations via that thalamocortical

00:32:16.009 --> 00:32:22.009
path. These abnormal GABA receptors are also

00:32:22.009 --> 00:32:25.710
found in seizures, remember the closeness to

00:32:25.710 --> 00:32:31.349
epilepsy, and learning disabilities, and our

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primary topic in social and cognitive dysfunctions.

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The excitation inhibition needs both oxytocin

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and GABA for a proper balance. For the developing

00:32:48.700 --> 00:32:52.339
brain, these components are critical for proper

00:32:52.339 --> 00:32:58.039
development. A study shows aberrations in these

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areas are a cause of autistic phenotypes. Also,

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abnormal GABA development in the dopaminergic

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areas of the brain is our region of interest.

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This expands on some dysfunction of the excitation

00:33:19.940 --> 00:33:24.339
and inhibition balance and offers a topic in

00:33:24.339 --> 00:33:29.779
recent research of pathophysiology of autism.

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In addition, neurogenesis the development of

00:33:36.369 --> 00:33:42.289
neurons. Remember, cells divide and neurite growth

00:33:42.289 --> 00:33:46.990
and synapsis formation involve many factors.

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Nothing's singular. These neuropeptides alongside

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GABA are critical for these roles. Okay, before

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we end, I just want to cover intranasal oxytocin.

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as a therapeutic option for autism or for those

00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:14.960
autistic phenotypes. Intranasal oxytocin administration

00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:18.780
penetrates the brain. It crosses the blood -brain

00:34:18.780 --> 00:34:24.079
barrier with capillary beds and induces cognitive,

00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:29.860
emotional, and behavioral changes mostly related

00:34:29.860 --> 00:34:35.420
to socialness. To no surprise, for that reason,

00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:40.840
data exists on testing intranasal oxytocin for

00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:47.280
autism superdeficits, social anxiety, increasing

00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.760
peer -to -peer capabilities, or said differently,

00:34:52.500 --> 00:34:56.960
acting on those roles oxytocin has in social

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functioning discussed earlier. The data on intranasal

00:35:04.780 --> 00:35:12.139
oxytocin is both inconsistent and low risk, meaning

00:35:12.139 --> 00:35:18.500
little to zero side effects. Criteria for the

00:35:18.500 --> 00:35:22.679
intranasal oxytocin include standardization of

00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:29.900
dosage, frequency, formulation, differences in

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sex, and devices used for administration. Two

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points to consider. There's an idea gender differences

00:35:39.150 --> 00:35:44.769
is a primary cause of the inconsistent data and

00:35:44.769 --> 00:35:49.050
intranasal oxytocin is shown to improve socialness

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or more precisely shown to suppress anxiety in

00:35:54.389 --> 00:35:58.650
healthy participants. The reason we will explore

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this option is because there is proof and it

00:36:02.230 --> 00:36:06.329
is in the so -called low risk category as a helpful

00:36:06.329 --> 00:36:11.230
option for autism. There are several things to

00:36:11.230 --> 00:36:16.889
know here, several takeaways to consider. One,

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studies do show improvements and a few meta -analysis

00:36:23.170 --> 00:36:29.170
confirm this. Intranasal oxytocin, this approach

00:36:29.369 --> 00:36:32.349
has been around for about 20 years now, I believe

00:36:32.349 --> 00:36:38.210
2003. So some data has collected. The second

00:36:38.210 --> 00:36:42.530
thing to consider is it is low risk and this

00:36:42.530 --> 00:36:46.409
ought to be a tremendous factor. If it works,

00:36:46.409 --> 00:36:52.690
it works. If it doesn't, okay, it doesn't. Three,

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it is unknown if intranasal mimics the endogenous

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amounts released in the brain. The dosage has

00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:11.559
to really be pinpointed. Four. There is a chance

00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:17.559
intranasal oxytocin activates broad serotonin

00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:22.139
across the brain. In other words, it might lack

00:37:22.139 --> 00:37:28.610
specificity. And lastly, number five. And this

00:37:28.610 --> 00:37:33.610
is a big one. Intranasal appears to target the

00:37:33.610 --> 00:37:37.769
magnocellular pathway, which is more peripheral.

00:37:38.809 --> 00:37:43.449
So it acts on hormones and it blunts stress responses

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in the hormonal systems such as cortisol. When

00:37:48.949 --> 00:37:54.230
in reality, the idea is acting on the central

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pathways that the areas responsible for the brain

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regions, that cellular activity. You want more

00:38:05.070 --> 00:38:10.309
neuropeptide or neurotransmitter and less hormone

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so it can target the nucleus accumbens. Remember,

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co -activating with serotonin and oxytocin to

00:38:20.190 --> 00:38:24.409
reach the nucleus accumbens. That is the primary

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target. And that works by the way of the parvocellular

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function or that parvocellular path and not the

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magnocellular. If you are listening and enjoy

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