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Welcome to From the Spectrum podcast. This is a podcast about autism. It is my goal to explain

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what is autism. I plan to use a mixture of scientific literature, personal experience,

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and opinion. With opinion, I will explain why. I fill the way I do and give examples. I will

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provide links to various references for each episode. For each episode, we will discuss various

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aspects of autism. The From the Spectrum podcast will mostly avoid causes of autism,

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and I will try avoiding the increase of diagnoses of late. This is like playing tug-of-war with

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barbed wire, and I don't think I want to travel down that path. For today's episode, we will cover

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autism and education. Any conversation around education ought to be taken serious. The conversation

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about education is dangerous. It's touchy. Autism in education adds to the heated discussion.

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There is so much going on in education, even within a single school building. Many types,

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many differences with curriculum, learners, educators, corporations, staff members, rules,

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and regulations. With autism, autism will grab attention of those involved. Staff, for the

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most part, even educated staff on the topic, are uneducated. Education cannot and should not have

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much weight on their opinion. Undergraduate level to, well, all the way up the highest degree,

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some of this population needs to reconsider their involvement. In the show notes, I mentioned the

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podcast is for the lay public and professionals. Mostly in education, they are distributed

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somewhere in between. It is my goal for this episode that others involved with people with

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autism can receive further information so they can make informed decisions, either for themselves,

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or for their loved ones. Parents get hitched on their opinion, their meaning school staff.

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What's coming out of the school building? Which should count, but it needs to be considered.

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Their knowledge, their education, their experience of autism. Is it enough? And one, should consider

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the goal of the school is to have the child docile and behaving correctly to the school's definition.

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As much and as fast as possible and whatever is needed to make that happen. At times, humans

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have enough. They want solutions, answers, they want things taken care of. And to qualify my

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comments. Undergraduate level, teachers to support service type, or even master's level. Staff are

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not qualified to understand autism's full complexity. Few are. Now, I realize unless it is a school

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psychologist in which they should still be questioned, diagnosing autism does not come from here.

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It takes specialization, certain licenses, but more importantly experience and the ability to

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remove implicit biases. To quiet those when dealing with the other person, the person with autism,

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or the suspected autism. However, it only shows the vast and deeply rooted biases these adults

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will have. Remember, humans love to take control, feel like they are helping, and humans love to

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have their beliefs confirmed. Already, if you are in education, you probably have underlying

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wants or desires to help. Feel like you are providing something to the children or students

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and the parents. Further, you are in the school building handling these situations for long hours

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and enough could be enough. It feels good. It provides a sense of purpose and confirmation

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of competence, a relief in the job, and the daily duties. This opens up negative beliefs and worries

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for parents and guardians, and it is a good path, a reliable path for stuff, for treatments,

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for information to be misplaced or incorrect. And it provides a path for something common

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in our society. An appointment with PCP and one or more prescriptions. And that is hard to reverse.

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If anything, doses will increase or more prescriptions will be prescribed.

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As a side note, we'll just take a hard pause here. Go into your search bar and type in CAGR,

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Compound Annual Growth Rate. This is what that stands for. CAGR of Antipsychotics

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for 2023 to 2030. Society loves to prescribe medication. That is our first line of defense.

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Children and adults get prescribed antipsychotics, antidepressants,

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psychostimulants. We are giving these things to children to sit down, behave, and act right.

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Do what you're told. I think our era will be known as the overprescription era or the great

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prescription era or something along those lines. Psychostimulants and ADHD has a sharp increase.

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Hopefully, this will clean up closer to, let's say, 10 years from now than 100 years from now.

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Now, can we sustain this paradigm? You can search Rockefeller Medicine or Rockefeller

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and Medicine Men, Medicine and Capitalism. Further, the top revenue business types from 2023,

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three of the top five business types include Medicine and Health Care. These are all cleared

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profits revenue. That was a long turn from the school and staff not being educated for properly

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understanding what is autism. However, everything I just mentioned is directly involved with the

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situation. It is our first line, our first option. Similar to the health care rant and that not

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working, what we are doing in education is not working. Autism or not. The worst thing the

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government has done is not remove itself from education. They tried. They seemingly, seemingly

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failed. So next. Okay, the school day. Already, the structure of the school day conflicts with

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autism. The entire structure is completely opposite of autistic phenotypes. Both criteria A and B,

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the social communication and interaction and the repetitive restricted behaviors.

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Before we move on, maybe you need to know criteria B a little bit better. Please research what criteria

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B looks like. If you think it is odd or different type of behaviors, then you are evaluating it with

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limited critical thinking. Maybe you are offended because your capacity to think is limited.

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Maybe you view life through a narrow lens. And maybe that is easier. It limits the conflict,

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the agitation or frustration underlying learning. All types of learning. All forms of learning.

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When learning happens, there are underlying thoughts and feelings associated with agitation and

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frustration. And maybe you like to dismiss that consciously or unconsciously to return to a

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comfortable state. Remember something that keeps us within ourselves. Autism, something that keeps

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autistics within ourselves is the amount of possibilities and interest. Just enjoyment of those.

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Remember, are you even interesting? If no, in comparison to our fixated interest, if no,

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we are content with the incredible amount of thinking capacity we possess. Autism gives us

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the ability to be comfortable within ourselves. And this accelerates our abilities, our superpowers.

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Again, you can sum it up by, are you like the so called normal people or not?

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So, back to the school. The classroom typically involves 20 or so, sometimes more, sometimes less.

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But nowadays, people are not going into education and people are leaving education. Finding teachers,

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special needs teachers, especially, or just general education teachers is hard.

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So, 20 or so students to make it easy. Remember criteria A. The classroom requires a social

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dynamic, a speech and language dynamic, and of course, sensory processing dynamic. Three strikes.

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Three strikes against autism. And that is just criteria A.

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Next, the school day typically studies a single subject for 40 to 50 minutes or so,

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depending on the age, but typically 40 to 50 minutes and then switches.

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40 to 50 minutes on the next subject and switches and repeat all day.

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Criteria B. That's it. B3. Episode over. This is all you need to know about autism and education.

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Those are complete contrast to autism phenotypes. It does not work for us.

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The teacher, and this is not a shot at them. The teacher is seemingly best prepared,

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best suited to teach the masses, the general abilities of the students.

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Now, education has seemingly made strides to accommodate. I guess we can say things like 504s

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and IEPs, smaller class sizes, and scheduling breaks and so forth.

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A major consideration is each person involved has their own opinion, has their own expectation

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of how it should go, what the child needs or should do, or how the child should be treated,

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or act, and so on. And each individual involved has their own knowledge, sometimes or most times,

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a limited knowledge of what is autism. Higher education or any type of degree does not have

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a single autism specialty. You can't get a degree in autism. And even if you could,

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there's a saying about meeting a child with autism or an adult with autism, for that matter.

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If you've met one child with autism, you've met one child with autism.

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So, to break that down, because I'm not sure if you interpret that, each person with autism,

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each autistic has their own form, has their own problems, and superpowers associated with this

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phenomena. It's so unique. Okay, elementary school. In elementary, I had trouble reading and keeping

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up. It was the 80s, and I remember being put in a small group, three or four of us, with a teacher's

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aide. We would read short passages, short assignments of some sort, and come back together as a group

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to talk about it. The comprehension part. I remember sometimes the group was tasked to read it twice

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before discussing it. I always finished last. I learned to not read it, to pretend, and I would

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look around and say, I was finished after the group finished. Mrs. Blazy was the name of the

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teacher's aide. I remember one day on the playground, she taught us to say, thank you, and not thanks.

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Thanks doesn't have the same meaning. I remember she was handing out chocolate kisses. Back then,

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you could do this, and making the students say, thank you. Anyway, when reading in small groups,

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it was very stressful. For two reasons. I want to discuss two reasons on this. One,

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reading creates our visual thinking. The movie's being created in our heads. This adds time and a

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step. This creates delays. The visual thinking is captivating and required. This is common with

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autism. Remember Temple Grandin, Thinking and Pictures, three chapters two and three. In addition,

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Temple Grandin has a newer book out called Autism and Education, in which she discusses the reading

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to visual thinking, the visualization of what the context is, the content is, and how that delays and slows us down.

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Second thing is, do you even know when reading, we activate our speech and language?

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Speech and language process is an implicated and common problem with autism. I was in speech and

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language whenever I was a child. However, anyway, when reading, our speech and language silently

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speaks to our brain. We speak to ourselves silently to teach the brain. If you know about

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criteria A, and if you combine these two other factors, reading and comprehension, is difficult

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compared to others. Now, I just want to take a slight turn here and mention, now, imagine

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reading out loud. Imagine the difficulties now. That is extra steps, that is choppy and broken

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languages, that is reading the words, the text on the page, visualizing it, processing it through

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visualization, and then recruiting the speech and language to form, verbally speak, what is being read,

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then seen, out loud. I am 43, and just last semester, I butchered this. It was awkward,

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but I don't care, but it was strange for this to happen the first time in this cohort.

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Anyways, out of those two factors, both are driving forces against my abilities.

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I don't read much, because I can't keep up with it. It just takes me so long.

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However, I have other special techniques. I won't go into them in detail. We kind of

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touch on them from time to time, or mostly every episode, probably. But mostly, it involves the

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visual thinking and some patterns and anticipation. In fourth grade, I am thinking it was the fourth

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grade. It was not the third grade, because it wasn't Mrs. Miller or her classroom. And remember,

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that was my Vietnam War novel year. I am still in contact with Mrs. Miller.

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Anyway, the fourth grade, the class was sitting in a circle, and each student around the circle

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got the next letter of the alphabet. The student's task was easy. Name, five nouns for that letter.

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As we moved around the circle, early on, I counted. I tracked which letter I would get.

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I wanted, and I needed, to rehearse it. Amazingly, I was going to get S, same as my last name.

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In addition, the letters were across the top of the chalkboard. If you don't know what that is,

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a chalkboard, then search it. This was simple. Each letter had three pictures of the nouns for

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each letter. Each letter had three random pictures of nouns. S had sailboat, sailor, and school.

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I remember the picture, and the alphabet hung across the top of the chalkboard.

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I had four of the five nouns already, and I began rehearsing, speaking them to the class.

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Finally, it was my turn, and I said nothing. I just sat there. The teacher and students were shocked,

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and gave me something like, oh, you know it. They also started to encourage me. Like, come on,

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you can get it. This caused me to act like I didn't know the five. I acted like I was thinking. I was

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on it. But I wasn't. I just wasn't going to speak. Time's up. Not that there was a time limit,

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or anyone else experienced this. The teacher and students named five, and I awkwardly sat there.

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I cannot explain it. It was decades ago. It was the mid to late 80s.

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My troubles with education would continue, and only become more challenging each year.

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Today, I still have challenges with spelling and subject verb agreement. Now, I realize,

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subject verb agreement is not necessarily uncommon in society. Remember my comments on the English

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language. It's a little pretentious and lazy to me. I am unsure what came first. My struggles in school

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or giving up. But I had no confidence or trust I could do anything in school besides art.

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All levels of education, from elementary to high school, I excelled in art classes.

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Typically, typical brains go from general to detail. They look at the whole picture first.

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We see details, and not that that others don't. We go from detail to general.

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When I worked in an engineering department, we would call something like that reverse

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engineering. The slight details come first and come fast. I remember looking at pictures while

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doing the ADOS II mod 4 and just being caught on slight details of pictures whenever I was supposed

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to be moving along. In high school, I barely made it. Mentally, I quit. And physically, I nearly

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quit a couple of times. Quit school for good. I couldn't keep up in class. And with each class,

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those generalized class requirements. And in that environment. In high school, I changed schools.

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Then I changed back. But I had to do an alternative school first. Pathways to success.

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The alternative school was my senior year. And it was known I might not have enough credits

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to graduate. Alternative school was the first time in a long time. I thought I could do it.

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Pathways to success lasted through the beginning of the second semester of my senior year.

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So it was close. One objective is proving I could do general education classrooms.

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Prepping me to return to those classrooms. Alternative school was a small class. We had four to five

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students. It was slow paced, reduced subjects, one teacher, and a quiet classroom. It was great for me.

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Then I was integrated back into the general classroom. General classrooms.

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My troubles returned. On paper. And on record, official record. I did make it.

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At the end of the semester, my senior year, teachers would call students up to review their grade.

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This was standard. It was the old great books. Nothing electronic. Students name listed in rows.

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Assignments listed in columns at the top. And scores listed across the row. With accumulated scores

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at the end. A newer male teacher called me up. 58%. And asked me, you might not graduate, right?

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How does that make you feel? I didn't know. And after a long pause of looking at the 58%,

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I honestly did not know. Eventually I answered back. I don't know.

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Later I found out when the final grades were handed out on the paper grades, the report cards.

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Nothing electronic. The grade was changed to a 62.5%. A D minus is the letter grade I have

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on that report card. I have my high school transcripts because of everything we're discussing today.

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As a reminder of what occurred to me. It's not an excuse. It's just reality.

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And at the time, the male teacher called me up and showed me the 58%. Assignments and grades

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were finished. And that year, earlier in the year, it was mid second semester. I took it late.

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I took the SAT. A component of the education plan for me was preparing me for post graduation.

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Either an unbelievable path to applying to colleges or different employment options.

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So they had me take the SAT. I scored a 640 on the SAT. 640. A part of the autism assessment

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is a full psychological assessment. I have scores and abilities from this assessment

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that puts me into very superior ranges relative to the population comparisons.

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Very superior. High averages to very superior on many different items. And some abilities or

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inabilities that are low average to extremely low or words like impaired or severe ranges.

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We have superpowers and super deficits. How is how are the schools and the educators supposed

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to facilitate each one of these? So the child, the student can excel in these environments.

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It doesn't seem fair to either one. Some of my superpowers from the assessment,

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high average to very superior includes processing speeds. Remember the rate of information.

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The sensory processing phenomena. The fire hose of information as Diceroth called it.

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That EI conversation. Know that in some environments, in some context, this is superior.

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This is a superpower. This is better than most of society. But in some environments,

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it is a super deficit. Struggled. I cannot be in those environments. Understand that.

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Also, visual reproduction. Remember the details first. A test called trail making.

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I received high average to superior in processes like scanning, sequencing and switching speeds.

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Remember autism has rigid thinking. B3. So rules are rules. Mostly as long as they are clear to us.

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We define a clear rule set and we do that. That is one of the jobs of the proof frontal cortex.

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Understanding rule sets. And then recruiting. What is necessary? Remember that activating

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and inactivating things. Also, organization and planning on the CEPI test was very high.

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Superior. I forget the language used for that test. And then some super deficits include

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working memory. Remember the keeping up that processing. Some information into visualization.

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This complicates our short term or that working memory.

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General adaptiveness. Conceptualizing. And of course, socialness and leisure are severe.

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The outside world is chaotic. Generally speaking, education is arranged around the middle, the average.

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This is where the majority of the population falls. And one final conveyance of some troubles that I have

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and other students out there will probably have too. And you can make sense of this with the biological factors and the processing complications we've discussed today.

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Taking notes in the classroom. I cannot take notes. Remember the challenges with spelling and visualizing the content.

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And my penmanship is awful, which hurts this. Spelling and the penmanship are kind of indirect forces here.

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But keeping up with listening and understanding the information being conveyed and writing them down.

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I cannot keep up with that. I cannot do it. However, some of those other superpowers that we have discussed.

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Supplements that. So I don't need to do the note taking like the typical students do.

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I've mentioned that I started a higher education grad school program recently. And before I started, I made a goal of keeping notes.

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That way I can keep up with the class and because I anticipated some troubles with this. So I made a goal. I really deliberately worked at trying to keep notes.

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Well, that did not last and I did not fight it because I wasn't going to change it. I just stopped taking the notes.

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Now in stats class, I could I could write down some formulas that were important, but anything else, I could not.

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Now I just typically watch people take notes and learn that how amazing it is. I'm constantly amazed by watching them take notes.

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However, with those other superpowers, I have not failed or it has not hurt me one bit.

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So I am thankful for that. I am thankful for our superpowers, our sensory processing and visual thinking. It is a strong use.

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As we wrap up today, I hope you learned something about what it's like for someone with autism navigating the education system.

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Regardless of a young child to all the way up to an adult in grad school, problems are across the board.

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Each stop, each level, there are massive amounts of problems. However, there are techniques and differences that can be utilized that can serve the autism with great benefits.

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This is the direction, the focus that I hope others can take, recognize and take.

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Don't try to change someone with autism because they are different than you.

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