WEBVTT 00:00:01.530 --> 00:00:58.560 Thank you. Warm greetings and salutations. Insert 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:02.340 Academy student name here. From Tachyon Micromechanics 00:01:02.340 --> 00:01:05.799 Limited. Are you tired of the same old one -dimensional 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:08.879 existence? Does your single solitary reality 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:12.920 and unadjusted timeline feel awkward and unfulfilled? 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:15.859 Then prepare yourself for your minuscule grasp 00:01:15.859 --> 00:01:19.420 on reality to explode in a colorful blast of 00:01:19.420 --> 00:01:22.519 radiation. But not the bad kind. The good kind. 00:01:22.739 --> 00:01:25.480 The only kind. that can be brought to you by 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:28.620 the fine folks at Tachyon Micromechanics Limited, 00:01:28.819 --> 00:01:31.879 a subdivision of your good friends at Business 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:35.680 Incorporated. 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Do not listen. 00:06:16.389 --> 00:06:21.889 Do not let it out. Upload initiated. Time remaining. 00:06:22.170 --> 00:06:25.850 One hour, five minutes. Uploading. Uploading. 00:06:26.750 --> 00:06:33.129 Uploading. Uploading. Uploading. I believe we're 00:06:33.129 --> 00:06:36.209 doing a real -time episode, you said? We are 00:06:36.209 --> 00:06:40.529 doing a super special real -time episode because 00:06:40.529 --> 00:06:44.209 I don't have any time to do any editing. And 00:06:44.209 --> 00:06:47.730 we went to see Project Hail Mary at the cinema, 00:06:47.810 --> 00:06:51.810 didn't we? We did. We had a lovely date together. 00:06:51.889 --> 00:06:53.389 We didn't get dinner. You didn't buy me dinner, 00:06:53.490 --> 00:06:54.970 ladies and gents. But we went to the cinema. 00:06:55.069 --> 00:06:57.389 Oh, no, you did buy me dinner, actually. I did 00:06:57.389 --> 00:07:00.230 buy you dinner, yeah. You bought me a nice footlong 00:07:00.230 --> 00:07:04.000 hot dog. I did, yeah. Make of it as you will, 00:07:04.060 --> 00:07:07.100 ladies and gents. Yeah, and we went to see Hail 00:07:07.100 --> 00:07:10.920 Mary at Cineworld, and oh boy, have we got things 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:15.879 to say. But before we talk about the film, let's 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.240 talk about cinema etiquette. Oh my God, seriously. 00:07:20.420 --> 00:07:24.779 I ranted at Gemma about this earlier. We had 00:07:24.779 --> 00:07:28.970 both one of the... best cinema experiences because 00:07:28.970 --> 00:07:31.850 the film and the worst at the same time didn't 00:07:31.850 --> 00:07:37.290 we yes okay i i do eat popcorn which can be noisy 00:07:37.290 --> 00:07:39.850 but i'm strategic when i eat it i'll eat it before 00:07:39.850 --> 00:07:43.769 the film and then try and do it at loud bits 00:07:43.769 --> 00:07:47.389 to kind of mask it because i do understand that 00:07:47.389 --> 00:07:50.269 popcorn can be noisy what you mean you don't 00:07:50.269 --> 00:07:57.240 wait until beautiful scripted written audio that's 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:01.399 purely there to help immerse you in this giant 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:04.899 space story that we're being told isn't the right 00:08:04.899 --> 00:08:09.439 time to start eating no not nachos not bloody 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.480 nachos not nachos with your mouth open you know 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.660 yeah so i think so what it was as a family i 00:08:16.660 --> 00:08:18.660 think there was five of them the two parents 00:08:18.660 --> 00:08:21.220 and three kids the three kids did not want to 00:08:21.220 --> 00:08:25.319 be there no not in the slightest They were up 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:27.740 and down throughout the film. Yeah, they kept 00:08:27.740 --> 00:08:30.500 getting up and going out. One time they went 00:08:30.500 --> 00:08:33.480 out to get food. So they went out about 45 minutes 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:35.940 in, didn't they, to go get nachos and come back. 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:38.799 When I saw them disappear at that point, I thought, 00:08:38.860 --> 00:08:41.440 oh, they're not meant to be in here. They've 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:44.159 kind of jumped in here after another film or 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:47.039 something. Or they realised, oh, God, it's a 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.600 space story. See you later. I was hoping they'd 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:51.519 disappeared. Well, I thought the kind of eldest 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.059 daughter was taking one of the kids out just 00:08:54.059 --> 00:08:56.309 because... Because it all started with him doing 00:08:56.309 --> 00:08:58.110 a little bit of whispering and that was fine 00:08:58.110 --> 00:08:59.730 because they were going shush, shush, shush. 00:08:59.850 --> 00:09:01.950 But as it progressed, it got worse and they just 00:09:01.950 --> 00:09:03.809 gave up the pretense that they were trying to 00:09:03.809 --> 00:09:06.629 be quiet and having full on conversations with 00:09:06.629 --> 00:09:09.330 each other, loud eating nachos. But one of the 00:09:09.330 --> 00:09:10.990 most egregious thing in the whole thing was the 00:09:10.990 --> 00:09:13.370 girl who I thought was doing the shushing at 00:09:13.370 --> 00:09:17.389 first. She had like a plastic pot of sweets and 00:09:17.389 --> 00:09:20.049 she was, I turned and just looked at her while 00:09:20.049 --> 00:09:22.450 she's doing it. She was using her teeth to nibble 00:09:22.450 --> 00:09:25.409 round the lid. to try and get the lid off like 00:09:25.409 --> 00:09:27.409 the lid was stuck but she just kept spinning 00:09:27.409 --> 00:09:30.330 it and nibbling it really loud because it's plastic 00:09:30.330 --> 00:09:33.809 and then she took it off and then she folded 00:09:33.809 --> 00:09:37.409 it up and we're just biting it and was going 00:09:37.409 --> 00:09:39.950 click click click click click biting it like 00:09:39.950 --> 00:09:42.269 it was like a little habit that she had oh it 00:09:42.269 --> 00:09:44.730 was really so annoying i don't know how you and 00:09:44.730 --> 00:09:46.750 i didn't say anything to them i don't know how 00:09:46.750 --> 00:09:48.529 we got through the film without saying something 00:09:48.529 --> 00:09:51.990 i was so close to saying something i was getting 00:09:51.990 --> 00:09:55.330 so annoyed by it and i think the people behind 00:09:55.330 --> 00:09:57.870 me were as well i could hear them shushing them 00:09:57.870 --> 00:10:02.289 and muttering and everyone was turning to look 00:10:02.289 --> 00:10:04.429 at them and their family was just completely 00:10:05.769 --> 00:10:08.129 oblivious of it that's what really annoyed me 00:10:08.129 --> 00:10:10.470 and then we're at this beautiful moment when 00:10:10.470 --> 00:10:12.470 as i said you've got this this this fantastic 00:10:12.470 --> 00:10:18.070 soundtrack this this beautiful just cacophony 00:10:18.070 --> 00:10:22.389 of sound and the great orchestral score that 00:10:22.389 --> 00:10:27.330 it had yeah brilliant yeah thank you and um all 00:10:27.330 --> 00:10:30.490 of a sudden she's back to eating fucking nachos 00:10:30.490 --> 00:10:33.169 and it's yeah literally i watched her she took 00:10:33.169 --> 00:10:36.830 one hour at a time Granted, I shovel things in. 00:10:36.909 --> 00:10:38.950 I'm not in the right in any way at this point. 00:10:39.129 --> 00:10:41.889 But she takes one nacho out at a time, opens 00:10:41.889 --> 00:10:44.289 her mouth as wide as she can, and then was biting 00:10:44.289 --> 00:10:47.970 down and then eating with her mouth open. And 00:10:47.970 --> 00:10:50.110 I mean, I'll send you the clip. If you can splice 00:10:50.110 --> 00:10:52.990 it in, go for it. But I literally recorded the 00:10:52.990 --> 00:10:55.309 clip where you can hear there's very little sound 00:10:55.309 --> 00:10:57.190 going on in the film at the point. And then all 00:10:57.190 --> 00:11:01.090 you hear from six seats away, crunch, crunch, 00:11:01.269 --> 00:11:08.100 crunch. It's just... It was infuriating, wasn't 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:11.159 it? But yeah, they got up and left twice. And 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:14.940 then one of the kids, he kept standing up and 00:11:14.940 --> 00:11:17.000 like he was stretching and stuff. He put his 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:19.019 hands completely over the chair in front of him. 00:11:19.059 --> 00:11:21.759 Some poor woman was sat there. He must have whacked 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:24.720 her in the head. He must have. And he was turning 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:26.639 around and then talking to the whole group because 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:28.740 I think there were more of the family in the 00:11:28.740 --> 00:11:31.960 seats behind them. Oh, I didn't notice that. 00:11:32.460 --> 00:11:35.779 Yeah, so when he turned round and started talking, 00:11:35.899 --> 00:11:39.500 he was talking to the people behind. Oh, my God. 00:11:40.100 --> 00:11:44.779 So it's just etiquette, full stop. I mean, we 00:11:44.779 --> 00:11:46.419 didn't pay for it. I mean, I've got my Cineworld 00:11:46.419 --> 00:11:49.419 card. Still waiting for that sponsorship, you 00:11:49.419 --> 00:11:52.480 know, Cineworld. We paid for Rob off the podcast 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.960 account because I've got my, weirdly, my work 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:00.179 medical insurance gets me a discount on Cineworld 00:12:00.179 --> 00:12:02.830 tickets. Don't ask why that's to do with health, 00:12:02.909 --> 00:12:05.350 but we get your ticket for, I think it was... 00:12:05.350 --> 00:12:08.809 Mental health. Well, there you go. I think it 00:12:08.809 --> 00:12:11.929 was £11 for your ticket in the end. Bosh. Which 00:12:11.929 --> 00:12:15.909 is far better than 16 .99 Cineworld wanted. But 00:12:15.909 --> 00:12:18.090 even then, if there's people there that paid 00:12:18.090 --> 00:12:22.370 £16 .99 each, do them a favour and fuck off if 00:12:22.370 --> 00:12:26.009 you can't stay quiet during a film. We did also 00:12:26.009 --> 00:12:32.080 walk into the wrong screen. we walked into the 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:34.700 the big ipad screen and the film had already 00:12:34.700 --> 00:12:37.399 been on for like an hour and we went up and we 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:39.019 went all the way to where our seats were and 00:12:39.019 --> 00:12:41.000 i looked at the screen i was like this is the 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:44.120 film this part because i knew the story i was 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:46.929 like you shouldn't this isn't the start This 00:12:46.929 --> 00:12:50.090 was, we literally walked in as Rocky was saying, 00:12:50.149 --> 00:12:52.990 I'll give you six years of fuel. If I give you 00:12:52.990 --> 00:12:54.850 some of my fuel, it will take me six years to 00:12:54.850 --> 00:12:56.929 get home instead. Yeah, that's it. Right near 00:12:56.929 --> 00:13:03.159 the end. So a bit of a spoiler for you. Yeah, 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:04.820 well, I didn't really pay attention. It's only 00:13:04.820 --> 00:13:07.340 twigged when we actually watched it on the proper 00:13:07.340 --> 00:13:09.000 screen. It's like, oh, so that's what they were 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.139 talking about. It didn't ruin it in the slightest 00:13:11.139 --> 00:13:13.679 for me because I already knew the advert had 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:15.879 already shown me what Rocky was, which I think 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.500 was a bit disappointing. They should have skipped 00:13:18.500 --> 00:13:21.860 that from the trailer, yeah. I think the difficulty 00:13:21.860 --> 00:13:24.519 is when you're marketing a two and a half hour 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:29.399 sci -fi film that really is just sci -fi. If 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:31.919 they don't give away enough in it, you're not 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.519 going to get the world's market. They should 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:37.820 have done the ship appearing in the trailer. 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:43.039 That moment where the huge ship comes next to 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.179 his, that's what they should have shown rather 00:13:45.179 --> 00:13:50.159 than Rocky. Or maybe just him tapping and nothing 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:54.019 else. So you see his hand. The little hand would 00:13:54.019 --> 00:13:56.059 have been ideal. And that's what the first trailer 00:13:56.059 --> 00:13:58.940 was. The very first teaser trailer of Hail Mary 00:13:58.940 --> 00:14:02.620 was just the little hand and the ship. That was 00:14:02.620 --> 00:14:04.980 it. Yeah, that's what they should have done. 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:09.899 I think they did show too much, I think. They 00:14:09.899 --> 00:14:13.659 showed too much of Rocky, which is a key part 00:14:13.659 --> 00:14:17.940 of the film, full stop anyway. Luckily, I don't 00:14:17.940 --> 00:14:19.980 feel that they actually gave too much of the 00:14:19.980 --> 00:14:23.190 story away. they gave away the bit obviously 00:14:23.190 --> 00:14:25.909 he's on his own in space i was not expecting 00:14:25.909 --> 00:14:29.190 there to be uh should we insert a spoiler warning 00:14:29.190 --> 00:14:31.350 here i guess i would do it all the way at the 00:14:31.350 --> 00:14:33.090 beginning before it even starts we've already 00:14:33.090 --> 00:14:36.509 spoiled it so yeah i was gonna say i was not 00:14:36.509 --> 00:14:38.870 expecting based on the trailer that there were 00:14:38.870 --> 00:14:40.769 actually two dead people on this ship with him 00:14:40.769 --> 00:14:44.840 already I was just expecting that they chose 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:47.320 to send one person for as I've never read the 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:49.600 book I've got no idea about the book so for me 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.399 this was a completely new experience so the trailer 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:54.580 as much as yes for you gave away a lot of the 00:14:54.580 --> 00:14:56.840 story because you knew the story already for 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:59.019 me I was disappointed that I knew what Rocky 00:14:59.019 --> 00:15:00.360 was because I would have thought that would have 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:03.019 been a really cool surprise but the rest of the 00:15:03.019 --> 00:15:06.919 story was actually still quite fresh quite exciting 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:13.210 for me yeah and Karen from lightly used said 00:15:13.210 --> 00:15:15.529 something to me which i actually said to you 00:15:15.529 --> 00:15:18.509 when we left the cinema so we've had the same 00:15:18.509 --> 00:15:22.909 brainwave it's probably one of the best adaptions 00:15:22.909 --> 00:15:26.769 from a book that we've experienced because interesting 00:15:26.769 --> 00:15:30.830 okay they really did a brilliant job at keeping 00:15:30.830 --> 00:15:35.409 all of the tones and science and story elements 00:15:35.409 --> 00:15:39.539 and in main plot points of the book and managed 00:15:39.539 --> 00:15:43.519 to adapt it that still worked in a film and i 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.340 didn't leave it thinking oh they they really 00:15:46.340 --> 00:15:49.259 missed by not having this hour -long section 00:15:49.259 --> 00:15:52.240 of how they did the science you know they definitely 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.820 changed some of the sciencey bits with the testing 00:15:54.820 --> 00:15:58.960 yeah but it needed to be done for it to work 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:02.899 as a film it needed to yeah I have to agree on 00:16:02.899 --> 00:16:04.159 that. I mean, we haven't even talked about the 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:05.759 films. People probably that haven't seen the 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:07.659 film have no idea what we're talking about, but 00:16:07.659 --> 00:16:10.759 I didn't feel like it was over the top. I felt 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:13.200 that that two and a half hours went really quickly. 00:16:13.340 --> 00:16:15.620 It wasn't numb bums. It was two and a half hours. 00:16:16.220 --> 00:16:18.860 Yes. Two and a half hours. I did not even notice 00:16:18.860 --> 00:16:21.440 it was that long. Nope. I didn't. And that was 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:23.179 that. Yeah. It started at 8 .30 and we walked 00:16:23.179 --> 00:16:26.279 out about five past 11. Yeah. So it was absolutely, 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.279 it flew past. But the point is, is they did. 00:16:31.029 --> 00:16:33.230 absolutely a right amount of science in my book 00:16:33.230 --> 00:16:35.789 there was enough for the general population to 00:16:35.789 --> 00:16:38.690 understand what they were doing and throw a little 00:16:38.690 --> 00:16:41.389 bit of real science in there but they didn't 00:16:41.389 --> 00:16:44.629 do as much as we're fans of Star Trek they didn't 00:16:44.629 --> 00:16:47.269 do Star Trek where why have you spent literally 00:16:47.269 --> 00:16:50.529 three minutes of this four minute scene saying 00:16:50.529 --> 00:16:53.470 science terms that to be fair are just made up 00:16:53.470 --> 00:16:56.389 science terms as well you didn't need to do that 00:16:56.389 --> 00:16:58.370 and they didn't in this they kept everything 00:16:59.259 --> 00:17:04.380 was fairly either real or it felt real. Well, 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:08.059 to make a good point on that is, as I said to 00:17:08.059 --> 00:17:13.319 you, there's a bit where they breed the, not 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:15.559 the astrophage. The predator bacteria. Yeah, 00:17:15.660 --> 00:17:18.180 I can't remember what it's called. That's a whole 00:17:18.180 --> 00:17:21.279 chapter, easily, or more in the book, of them 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:25.119 slowly iterating and iterating and iterating. 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:31.309 Which on paper is fine. Yeah. And a whole bit 00:17:31.309 --> 00:17:33.950 that they completely didn't do, that stuff escapes 00:17:33.950 --> 00:17:38.390 and eats all of their fuel. That's one of the 00:17:38.390 --> 00:17:41.890 reasons why he can't go back is all of his fuel 00:17:41.890 --> 00:17:44.690 gets eaten. All of it. And he has to completely 00:17:44.690 --> 00:17:47.470 clean the entire ship. Now you see that very 00:17:47.470 --> 00:17:51.690 briefly in his, but it happens like more than 00:17:51.690 --> 00:17:55.920 once. Like he has to go into his fuel pod. cleat 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:57.720 scrub it all out all these things that he has 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.799 to do in the book in the film it's just a montage 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.819 it's a couple of minute montage but that makes 00:18:04.819 --> 00:18:07.380 it work for the film because why would you want 00:18:07.380 --> 00:18:09.640 to see ryan gosling going around scrubbing the 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:12.960 inside of a fuel tank works for the book not 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:15.660 so much so just to grab that from you then so 00:18:15.660 --> 00:18:18.440 in the book is he meant to be returning is he 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:22.900 meant to have enough fuel no so rocky he he i 00:18:22.900 --> 00:18:27.500 think they make more fuel And Rocky gives him 00:18:27.500 --> 00:18:33.400 some. But also before that happens, they don't 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:35.880 realize how the stuff escapes and they don't 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:39.059 realize how it escapes. So they clean everything 00:18:39.059 --> 00:18:43.299 and start again before he realizes. And then 00:18:43.299 --> 00:18:46.740 he doesn't realize until it happens again when 00:18:46.740 --> 00:18:48.980 he's on his way home. And then he's like, oh, 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:53.039 shit. And he has to clean everything again and 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:58.869 get back. Yeah, okay, fine. Oh, right. So, I 00:18:58.869 --> 00:19:00.170 mean, to be fair, we've already been talking 00:19:00.170 --> 00:19:02.650 15 minutes. We haven't told anyone what the story 00:19:02.650 --> 00:19:04.789 of this is. We haven't really gone into that. 00:19:04.829 --> 00:19:06.809 We're kind of just branching off and chucking 00:19:06.809 --> 00:19:09.710 bits and pieces at it. First thing I'm going 00:19:09.710 --> 00:19:13.210 to say is it was Andy Weir who wrote it, wasn't 00:19:13.210 --> 00:19:15.650 it? Andy Weir, yeah, yeah. Who you will know 00:19:15.650 --> 00:19:18.589 for The Martian, or I know for The Martian, because 00:19:18.589 --> 00:19:21.289 I saw that at the cinema. I was blown away when 00:19:21.289 --> 00:19:24.740 I bought the book. Mm -hmm. And it does seem 00:19:24.740 --> 00:19:27.839 that he has a very typical architecture of his 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:31.019 stories. It was very, and again, even the Martian, 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:32.799 just going back to your bit about saying he didn't 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:36.859 over -science it. There's a little bit of the... 00:19:36.859 --> 00:19:40.019 Where in the book he does. Yeah, but in, okay. 00:19:40.700 --> 00:19:43.019 Okay, yeah, fair enough. Because I feel like, 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:45.420 again, in the Martian, they didn't over -science 00:19:45.420 --> 00:19:49.759 it. The difference being they jumped the, to 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:52.599 use a term derived from happy days, if people 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.019 know it. They jumped the shark in The Martian, 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:58.599 whereas in this they didn't. I still love The 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.119 Martian. I think it's absolutely brilliant. But 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:02.980 the whole bit of him when he's finally got into 00:20:02.980 --> 00:20:05.440 space and it's like, well, I'll just cut my airline 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:07.720 and I'll blow myself over towards you. How hard 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:09.859 can it be? And then he successfully gets back 00:20:09.859 --> 00:20:12.859 to the crew. That's jumping the shark. That for 00:20:12.859 --> 00:20:17.920 me, right on the cusp of being too much to being 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:20.420 unbelievable in a film that they've managed to 00:20:20.420 --> 00:20:23.500 so well make you believe it was real. Whereas 00:20:23.500 --> 00:20:26.400 Hail Mary, there's a lot more in it that's unbelievable, 00:20:26.779 --> 00:20:30.640 but it remained believable while you're watching 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:35.819 it. And it uses all kind of real world science 00:20:35.819 --> 00:20:39.480 to solve the unbelievable elements of the film. 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:42.519 You know, the astrophage being this creature 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:46.619 eating the sun, you know, is kind of a bit crazy, 00:20:46.980 --> 00:20:50.460 but they use all, and they really go, it's one 00:20:50.460 --> 00:20:54.279 thing they don't tell you. is one of the ways 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:57.640 they were thinking of launching the ship. And 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:00.039 one of the ways they do it is by exploding nuclear 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:04.700 bombs. Oh, to blow it to speed. To blow it up 00:21:04.700 --> 00:21:06.339 to speed is one of the things they talk about, 00:21:06.420 --> 00:21:10.980 I think, before they start using the astrophage 00:21:10.980 --> 00:21:14.000 to be able to propulsion. Anyway, right, so story. 00:21:14.619 --> 00:21:19.559 It's 16 minutes in. Excuse me. They find out 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:21.980 their sun is dimming and they don't know why. 00:21:22.509 --> 00:21:25.069 They eventually find out it's something called 00:21:25.069 --> 00:21:29.390 an astrophage, which is a little tiny bacteria 00:21:29.390 --> 00:21:35.430 thing that is coming from Saturn, as they see 00:21:35.430 --> 00:21:39.529 it, coming over to the sun and doing something 00:21:39.529 --> 00:21:43.869 to the sun and making its way back to Venus. 00:21:44.049 --> 00:21:45.910 And all the time, it's getting less and less 00:21:45.910 --> 00:21:49.809 and less. Ryan Gosling's character, he's a schoolteacher. 00:21:49.950 --> 00:21:53.890 He used to write... He's a doctor who wrote a 00:21:53.890 --> 00:21:58.190 paper on how life can exist without water, which 00:21:58.190 --> 00:22:00.210 is a really funny little bit for the whole thing. 00:22:00.210 --> 00:22:01.630 The whole film was quite funny. There's lots 00:22:01.630 --> 00:22:04.990 of comedy in the film. He believes that evolution 00:22:04.990 --> 00:22:07.589 can occur without water, and we've put far too 00:22:07.589 --> 00:22:10.609 much importance on hydrogen and oxygen. And therefore, 00:22:10.750 --> 00:22:12.549 the reason he's ended up as a teacher is because 00:22:12.549 --> 00:22:15.789 he is a quack, according to all of the scientists. 00:22:17.509 --> 00:22:22.079 Which turns out, in fact... He is. Because it's 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:24.700 not true. One of the very first things he finds 00:22:24.700 --> 00:22:26.579 out when he gets roped into doing some testing 00:22:26.579 --> 00:22:31.359 is that the astrophage is mostly made up of water. 00:22:31.940 --> 00:22:39.500 Which was hilarious. So he gets tasked with figuring 00:22:39.500 --> 00:22:42.599 out what's going on. And he discovers how to 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:45.180 breed astrophage. He discovers why they move 00:22:45.180 --> 00:22:47.660 between. And then he discovers that actually... 00:22:48.029 --> 00:22:51.349 Or maybe he gets told that it's coming from all 00:22:51.349 --> 00:22:54.750 these other suns. It's making its way. The astrophage 00:22:54.750 --> 00:22:57.869 is jumping from sun to sun to sun to sun. And 00:22:57.869 --> 00:23:02.450 then they find one sun. Tau Ceti, is that right? 00:23:02.730 --> 00:23:05.369 Tau Ceti 3, I believe it is. Tau Ceti 3, which 00:23:05.369 --> 00:23:10.890 has an astrophage line, but is not dimming. And 00:23:10.890 --> 00:23:12.789 they don't know why. So the idea is they go and 00:23:12.789 --> 00:23:16.859 ship and go. Oh, no, sorry. Tau City's the star. 00:23:16.980 --> 00:23:22.480 Tau City 3 is the planet. Yeah. So they build 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.680 a ship. They train people up. There's what isn't 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:28.940 explained. Oh, no, because it is an accident. 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:30.559 Because for some reason I thought it was like 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:32.240 a terrorist attack. Because I think they do have 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:36.490 some terrorist attacks. So I thought, are we 00:23:36.490 --> 00:23:38.950 going to get a moment of when the, yeah, so what 00:23:38.950 --> 00:23:41.390 we're saying is there's a ship explodes, which 00:23:41.390 --> 00:23:45.170 takes out the two science crew that Ryan Gosling, 00:23:45.210 --> 00:23:48.750 Grace has been training. I'm misremembering, 00:23:48.750 --> 00:23:51.170 yeah. As soon as that bit happened to me, it's 00:23:51.170 --> 00:23:52.990 like, is there going to be some terrorist group 00:23:52.990 --> 00:23:56.809 saying astrophage has a right to live? Yeah, 00:23:56.849 --> 00:23:58.549 I'm misremembering with the Bobbyverse because 00:23:58.549 --> 00:24:00.349 there's terrorist attacks in the Bobbyverse, 00:24:00.470 --> 00:24:03.980 which is a different sci -fi story. Yeah, so 00:24:03.980 --> 00:24:07.119 there's an accident. There's a miscalculation 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:10.420 of milligrams to micrograms of astrophage. Nanograms. 00:24:10.420 --> 00:24:13.140 Do a test. Nanograms. And it explodes. And this 00:24:13.140 --> 00:24:15.259 stuff is like a nuclear bomb when it goes off. 00:24:15.619 --> 00:24:19.599 Kills all the science team. Excuse me. And they 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:21.759 don't have a science officer. The only one left 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:25.779 is Ryan Gosling. He don't want to go. And I'm 00:24:25.779 --> 00:24:27.940 glad they kept that in. Because in the book, 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.900 he gets put in jail for three days. In the book. 00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:35.680 while they wait to get ready and then knock him 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:38.920 out and then chuck him in. And another thing 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:41.279 to notice in the film, do you know how there 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:43.619 was a little comment about the bravery gene? 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:46.980 Yes. Do you remember that? That's a big thing 00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:51.400 of how they chose the scientists because they 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:54.440 look for people with a very specific gene. And 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:57.039 those people are more brave. So they were looking 00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:59.700 for those people. That's what little comment 00:24:59.700 --> 00:25:02.279 that they make about the gene. That was what 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:03.779 they're doing. But they look for people with 00:25:03.779 --> 00:25:05.380 it. And that's why he says, I don't have the 00:25:05.380 --> 00:25:07.880 gene. And then the little joke about, oh, it's 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:13.700 not a gene. Gotcha. Yeah. So he gets forced into 00:25:13.700 --> 00:25:16.500 it. He tries to run away. They inject him, put 00:25:16.500 --> 00:25:19.759 him to sleep. He wakes up. Doesn't remember. 00:25:20.019 --> 00:25:23.140 That's a side effect of the drug. Not remembering. 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:28.240 yes which is actually a real thing yeah and another 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:31.920 thing is oh no sorry you know they have to have 00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:36.500 a specific gene to be able to survive the sleep 00:25:36.500 --> 00:25:39.579 process i'm trying to remember like all the specifics 00:25:39.579 --> 00:25:41.579 of the book because it's quite a lot yeah there's 00:25:41.579 --> 00:25:43.819 particular people will survive the sleep process 00:25:43.819 --> 00:25:46.339 and other people won't survive the sleep process 00:25:46.339 --> 00:25:49.339 so there's only a small pool of people that can 00:25:49.339 --> 00:25:53.079 go in those beds and i can't remember if But 00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:55.880 then there's still like a percentage chance that 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:58.980 you'll die. And I'm pretty sure that's what happens 00:25:58.980 --> 00:26:01.539 with those other two. They die because they just 00:26:01.539 --> 00:26:04.039 die, basically. They don't survive the trip. 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:07.839 He does. So I might have got the bravery gene 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:09.920 wrong. Sorry, Karen's probably screaming at her 00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:14.420 podcast device. No, it's not the bravery one. 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.819 It's the sleeping one. But you say that, but 00:26:17.819 --> 00:26:20.160 none of this is explained actually in the film. 00:26:20.220 --> 00:26:22.200 So you would only know this if you've read the 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:24.859 book. Because it doesn't need it. That's what 00:26:24.859 --> 00:26:27.480 we're saying. It doesn't need it. It just, it's 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.180 a plot device for the book that makes sense to 00:26:30.180 --> 00:26:33.200 give reason to it. But in the film, you don't 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:34.940 need it because you're just watching them going 00:26:34.940 --> 00:26:36.279 and think, oh yeah, that makes sense, whatever. 00:26:36.500 --> 00:26:39.339 I think you're much more able to shrug things 00:26:39.339 --> 00:26:41.819 off in a film than you could in a book. If they 00:26:41.819 --> 00:26:44.559 just shoved through it in the book, you'd be 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.220 like, oh. See, films are really difficult because 00:26:47.220 --> 00:26:49.960 films you either get told you haven't explained 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.980 enough or you've over -explained. Whereas a book, 00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:58.259 you don't get over -explaining typically in a 00:26:58.259 --> 00:27:00.180 book. You might get under -explaining. People 00:27:00.180 --> 00:27:02.000 come away going, I feel like I didn't get enough 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:05.259 info. But it's not as often do you get someone 00:27:05.259 --> 00:27:07.740 say, well, you could have removed an entire chapter. 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.299 I didn't need that. Yeah, I think people probably 00:27:11.299 --> 00:27:13.099 aren't going to complain about having too much 00:27:13.099 --> 00:27:14.259 information in a book because they want their 00:27:14.259 --> 00:27:17.789 books long. well yes and and you're you're reading 00:27:17.789 --> 00:27:19.730 it because you want you want the information 00:27:19.730 --> 00:27:23.789 i guess but um yeah it's yeah anyway sorry back 00:27:23.789 --> 00:27:25.930 to the back to the story then so yeah so yeah 00:27:25.930 --> 00:27:28.190 he's ends up going off into space and he wakes 00:27:28.190 --> 00:27:34.630 up yeah lucky man and he wakes up just not very 00:27:34.630 --> 00:27:37.420 far from his destination he sees And again, a 00:27:37.420 --> 00:27:39.900 big bit in the book is like he looks out the 00:27:39.900 --> 00:27:41.819 window, he sees the sun, he thinks it's his son 00:27:41.819 --> 00:27:43.640 and he thinks it's weird because the stars aren't 00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.500 lining up and he spends a long time doing the 00:27:46.500 --> 00:27:48.400 maths, not really understanding how he knows 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:51.440 the maths. Whereas, you know, to figure out that's 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.859 not actually their son, which again is a very, 00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:57.059 very quick bit in the film. But again, in the 00:27:57.059 --> 00:27:59.000 film, makes sense because why would you want 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:01.680 to spend 20 minutes of seeing him try to figure 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:06.720 out it's not his son? Gets there. And he's looking 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:09.039 around through his, I can't remember what that 00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:14.079 scope's called, the weird scope thing they use, 00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:16.380 which is how they can see the astrophage. It's 00:28:16.380 --> 00:28:20.859 a special lens on a camera, essentially. It basically 00:28:20.859 --> 00:28:23.960 allows them to see the infrared frequency that 00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.059 the astrophage is using to transport. It's like 00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:29.359 a siloscope. I can't remember the exact word. 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:34.259 It wasn't the Electrospectrum Analyzer, was it? 00:28:34.259 --> 00:28:38.519 The ESA? No, it's called a something scope. I'm 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:44.880 sure it is. I might be wrong. Electrospectrum 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:50.160 microscope, something like that. Let's just see. 00:28:50.200 --> 00:29:08.259 Lens to see astrophage. Lens to see. Alexa LF... 00:29:08.259 --> 00:29:11.940 Blum, blum, blum, blum, blum. Yeah, we're just 00:29:11.940 --> 00:29:13.420 literally... You see, I thought it was an electron. 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:15.660 I thought it was an electron microscope he used. 00:29:17.819 --> 00:29:20.420 Because it's the Petrova line. It's a Petrova 00:29:20.420 --> 00:29:24.500 scope. Oh, right. Because the Petrova line is 00:29:24.500 --> 00:29:27.099 the line of astrophysics. That makes sense. It's 00:29:27.099 --> 00:29:30.640 this pink line, which you can only see with a 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.680 specialised IR filter on your camera. Anyway. 00:29:35.980 --> 00:29:39.279 While he's looking through this lens, he's looking 00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:42.420 at the line and he can see it going from Tau 00:29:42.420 --> 00:29:47.160 Ceti to Tau Ceti 3, the planet. And there's a 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:50.359 break in the line. And that break is because 00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.059 there's something blocking his sight. Turns out 00:29:53.059 --> 00:29:58.279 it's a big, massive, bloody ship. Oh, yes. Which, 00:29:58.299 --> 00:30:00.220 again, it sends you down a whole thing that you're 00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:02.980 asking questions, is the reason that their sun's 00:30:02.980 --> 00:30:05.240 not moving because it's got this giant asteroid 00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:07.920 or something blocking the Petrova line. So it's 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:09.740 literally line of sight. Can it not get there? 00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:16.420 But that is this fuck -off ship. Yeah, so that 00:30:16.420 --> 00:30:20.099 ship then comes over to you and they're far better 00:30:20.099 --> 00:30:23.779 in... space travel and manipulating their spaceship 00:30:23.779 --> 00:30:26.220 and all this they're more advanced this alien 00:30:26.220 --> 00:30:29.259 race than what humans are in some ways but not 00:30:29.259 --> 00:30:33.599 in others um because their whole they're blind 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.579 big deal is they're blind they can see through 00:30:37.579 --> 00:30:42.420 echolocation and obviously that means a totally 00:30:42.420 --> 00:30:45.279 different thing for them another thing that isn't 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.640 explained they've only got three fingers so all 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:51.220 of their math maths are built around threes rather 00:30:51.220 --> 00:30:55.740 than tens so or whatever it is we do i'm not 00:30:55.740 --> 00:30:57.920 a no maths guy that's another big thing that 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.700 they do yeah they go in quite in depth yeah they're 00:31:01.700 --> 00:31:04.519 going quite in depth about stuff like that and 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.059 how rocky just cannot understand a computer there's 00:31:08.059 --> 00:31:13.039 no like what on earth is this you know yeah and 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.390 then they get attached they meet They learn how 00:31:16.390 --> 00:31:19.150 to, I'm so glad they did all that stuff with 00:31:19.150 --> 00:31:22.150 the computer to learn how to each other's talk. 00:31:22.349 --> 00:31:26.170 Because in the book, he gets given basically 00:31:26.170 --> 00:31:30.529 an install file for every single computer program 00:31:30.529 --> 00:31:34.170 ever created. So he uses like a DJ software, 00:31:34.289 --> 00:31:39.730 music software to listen to the notes and give 00:31:39.730 --> 00:31:42.529 it a note in his computer. And then he translates 00:31:42.529 --> 00:31:45.130 those notes. excuse me into words and that's 00:31:45.130 --> 00:31:47.410 how he does it and you kind of see that in the 00:31:47.410 --> 00:31:50.869 film he's doing that he's creates this duct taped 00:31:50.869 --> 00:31:53.109 laptop with a microphone on it and all kinds 00:31:53.109 --> 00:31:55.490 of stuff so that's interesting because a couple 00:31:55.490 --> 00:31:57.569 of the screenshots you see of the laptop is quite 00:31:57.569 --> 00:31:59.589 obviously running something like a dj software 00:31:59.589 --> 00:32:02.269 so i do yeah that's what he's doing yeah it does 00:32:02.269 --> 00:32:06.390 make me wonder a lot about what the um director's 00:32:06.390 --> 00:32:11.049 cut for this would be like yeah yeah I wonder 00:32:11.049 --> 00:32:13.369 how much they did actually cut from it because 00:32:13.369 --> 00:32:15.869 they realized they could, but how much of the 00:32:15.869 --> 00:32:19.269 actual story they filmed for it. Yeah. One cool 00:32:19.269 --> 00:32:21.750 thing about the ship is like, because they didn't 00:32:21.750 --> 00:32:23.930 want to spend all their time trying to invent 00:32:23.930 --> 00:32:26.509 science equipment that would work in zero gravity. 00:32:26.930 --> 00:32:30.049 They created a centrifuge function of his ship. 00:32:30.569 --> 00:32:32.829 One thing that isn't explained is like the ship 00:32:32.829 --> 00:32:35.890 can't fly in that mode. So if the ship wants 00:32:35.890 --> 00:32:39.420 to travel. He has to go into zero G mode. And 00:32:39.420 --> 00:32:41.019 then when he wants to stay still to do science 00:32:41.019 --> 00:32:43.859 stuff, he has to stop part of it decouples. And 00:32:43.859 --> 00:32:46.160 then it starts spinning. But a really cool thing 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:49.339 is Rocky has got such good control of his ship. 00:32:49.420 --> 00:32:52.140 He can make his ship match the orientation and 00:32:52.140 --> 00:32:57.259 spin round the outside and attach. It's the funniest 00:32:57.259 --> 00:33:01.509 scene in the entire film is. not well so yeah 00:33:01.509 --> 00:33:03.410 him saying go back to your ship and he's real 00:33:03.410 --> 00:33:06.410 are you kicking me off your ship that that's 00:33:06.410 --> 00:33:08.549 wonderful but but the bit when he's just trying 00:33:08.549 --> 00:33:11.009 to run away from the ship and every time he moves 00:33:11.009 --> 00:33:13.630 it it moves with him it's just like this yeah 00:33:13.630 --> 00:33:17.029 matches him perfectly yeah all right rocky's 00:33:17.029 --> 00:33:18.430 trying to communicate with him from the other 00:33:18.430 --> 00:33:21.910 side of space where was he can't talk so he has 00:33:21.910 --> 00:33:24.069 a little robot that runs around the outside of 00:33:24.069 --> 00:33:29.069 his ship is throws containers Yes. A ship. And 00:33:29.069 --> 00:33:31.670 after the second one, Rocky obviously realises 00:33:31.670 --> 00:33:35.269 that Ryan Gosling's character is a bit of an 00:33:35.269 --> 00:33:39.250 idiot and he throws it so perfectly it goes straight 00:33:39.250 --> 00:33:42.029 into the airlock just as Ryan Gosling opens up 00:33:42.029 --> 00:33:43.690 the door and he just catches it in his hands 00:33:43.690 --> 00:33:46.730 after a whole scene of him clambering around 00:33:46.730 --> 00:33:50.829 trying to just get it in time. So the story then 00:33:50.829 --> 00:33:52.829 just progresses of them doing science together 00:33:52.829 --> 00:33:55.819 basically, doesn't it? it does yeah few science 00:33:55.819 --> 00:34:00.339 mishaps and all kinds of stuff um one thing again 00:34:00.339 --> 00:34:03.000 really brushed over but is really important point 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:08.219 is that they well they do say some of it how 00:34:08.219 --> 00:34:10.519 all of rocky's people are all died as well because 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:14.420 they didn't know about space radiation and he 00:34:14.420 --> 00:34:16.820 was protected because he was the engineer who 00:34:16.820 --> 00:34:20.139 lived where the fuel was kept and they're using 00:34:20.139 --> 00:34:23.639 astrophage as well so The astrophate protected 00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:25.800 him from radiation, but none of his crewmates. 00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.019 So all his crewmates died. And again, I don't 00:34:29.019 --> 00:34:30.980 know if this is explained more in the book, but 00:34:30.980 --> 00:34:33.000 there's one thing I would have liked them to 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:37.960 explain a little bit more was, is Rocky's race, 00:34:38.099 --> 00:34:41.940 his species, is this the first spaceship they've 00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:44.380 basically built to come and do this exploration? 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.139 Yes, because they didn't know anything about... 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:53.500 the time dilation of space travel so he goes 00:34:53.500 --> 00:34:57.000 into quite an in -depth thing about how 11 years 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.860 in space for ryan gosling his whole journey is 00:35:00.860 --> 00:35:06.440 20 or 30 years back on earth yes rocky doesn't 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.039 understand that so when rocky's like oh i'll 00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:13.440 be home in four years he wouldn't be his relative 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:17.380 time is four years but back on whatever planet 00:35:17.380 --> 00:35:21.039 he was from it's like 10. Yes. And there's a 00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:25.079 whole bit of Ryan Gosling in the book explaining 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:31.179 it to Rocky and Rocky being like, what? So I 00:35:31.179 --> 00:35:35.679 understand again why that's not in it, but you 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.179 just hear one line about it. I would have liked 00:35:39.179 --> 00:35:41.219 that to have been in the film because actually, 00:35:41.380 --> 00:35:47.460 as much as the film, you get Rocky basically. 00:35:48.190 --> 00:35:52.349 seems to be much more intelligent than ryan gosling's 00:35:52.349 --> 00:35:55.289 character when it comes to certain things and 00:35:55.289 --> 00:35:58.110 it does the film i guess portrays more that rocky 00:35:58.110 --> 00:36:01.150 is the greater of the mind so it would have been 00:36:01.150 --> 00:36:05.949 nice to have seen ryan's grace having to explain 00:36:05.949 --> 00:36:10.170 to rocky that one thing of which why don't you 00:36:10.170 --> 00:36:12.590 get this you've got everything else why can you 00:36:12.590 --> 00:36:15.909 not grasp this one one thing it's scientist and 00:36:15.909 --> 00:36:19.400 engineer That's what they both are. Of course, 00:36:19.460 --> 00:36:22.340 yeah. The aspects of Grace, Ryan Cousins' character, 00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.960 is way more on the science side, whereas Rocky 00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:27.860 is this genius engineer who can make anything 00:36:27.860 --> 00:36:31.639 out of anything. Mostly whatever that mineral 00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:36.159 was. Xenonite. Xenonite. Basically Xenonite is 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.840 what he uses for everything. Which is a really 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.860 good bit, how Xenonite is a gas and not a solid. 00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:48.639 And Grace is like... how is this a sonnet? The 00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:51.179 great scene where he opens the canister and just 00:36:51.179 --> 00:36:53.480 smells, yeah, and he has a massive panic. He's 00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:55.039 like, I can't believe I just did that, and chucks 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:59.980 it into the air thing. It's when he scans it 00:36:59.980 --> 00:37:06.460 with the analyzer, and it says Xenon, and he's 00:37:06.460 --> 00:37:09.519 like, well, this is clearly broken. He slashes 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.809 it across the room, and then literally... Then 00:37:12.809 --> 00:37:15.690 he gets this memory back of him with the German 00:37:15.690 --> 00:37:17.769 woman and the other scientists going, you know, 00:37:17.809 --> 00:37:19.710 none of our equipment's going to work in space. 00:37:20.110 --> 00:37:22.489 Okay, well, we'll invent new equipment. And he's 00:37:22.489 --> 00:37:24.969 like, ah, yeah, I need to do that whole centrifuge 00:37:24.969 --> 00:37:27.809 thing. And then still scans it. It's like, still 00:37:27.809 --> 00:37:31.030 Zenon. And he chugs it again. Chugs it on the 00:37:31.030 --> 00:37:34.909 ground. Yeah, the film was surprisingly funny. 00:37:35.070 --> 00:37:37.409 It was surprisingly funny all the way through. 00:37:37.489 --> 00:37:41.010 It had the Ryan Gosling humour that you see in 00:37:41.010 --> 00:37:43.940 all of his stuff. And if you like that, you like 00:37:43.940 --> 00:37:46.960 that. Let's very quick. So obviously we get through 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.320 all the sciencey bits. They end up at Tau Ceti 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:53.980 3. They come up with a plan to, well, they first 00:37:53.980 --> 00:37:57.199 of all get a look at what's going on, don't they? 00:37:57.260 --> 00:38:00.639 They collect a sample of the astrophage from 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.460 the planet to the sun, from the sun to the planet. 00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.300 And they find that there is a predator cell in 00:38:06.300 --> 00:38:09.760 there eating away the astrophage. Tau Neba. it's 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.239 never that's it tell me but it's never strong 00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:14.019 enough to get all the way to the sun therefore 00:38:14.019 --> 00:38:19.079 it's controlled so they then rocky creates a 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.099 collection thing out of zenonite with lots of 00:38:22.099 --> 00:38:24.960 chains they somehow jerry -rig it to the outside 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:28.500 of the ship which again you've got to suspend 00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:31.340 disbelief that Ryan Gosling on his own space 00:38:31.340 --> 00:38:33.559 walking on his own, which he's only done three 00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.659 or four times at that point had enough of the 00:38:35.659 --> 00:38:38.079 ability to go outside and do all of this, but 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:41.760 you can't. Okay. So yeah, again, it's explained 00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.119 in the book, they have to surf the atmosphere, 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.760 which is why you see them at this weird angle 00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:49.679 kind of skimming along. I'm not even talking 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:51.320 about that bit. I'm talking about the fact that 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.039 they had. Oh, when he has to go out and get it. 00:38:53.460 --> 00:38:56.199 And well, no. Before that, you see they've got 00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.820 all of these reels of the chain that Rocky has 00:38:58.820 --> 00:39:01.840 made, 50 ,000 feet or whatever it was of chain. 00:39:01.940 --> 00:39:04.719 Yeah, they have to by hand put together. And 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:06.320 they've stuck it on the outside of the ship somehow. 00:39:08.059 --> 00:39:11.320 Yeah, so I don't remember how that bit's explained, 00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:13.699 but it is explained how he sits there for days 00:39:13.699 --> 00:39:18.079 putting one link on at a time. But the thing 00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.619 is, this film has been beautiful enough because 00:39:21.619 --> 00:39:24.099 you can suspend all of the disbelief for it. 00:39:24.139 --> 00:39:26.119 You just get it. Just one image, you just understand 00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:28.619 he's been there a while. Exactly. So yeah, so 00:39:28.619 --> 00:39:32.940 then they're surfing the atmosphere. They make 00:39:32.940 --> 00:39:34.639 the collection. They nearly lose the collection. 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.960 Get it inside. Everything starts going wrong. 00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.179 Hole in the fuel tank. Astrophage goes, oh my 00:39:40.179 --> 00:39:43.179 God, yummy, yummy infrared stuff. Let's go. Pulls 00:39:43.179 --> 00:39:46.400 them back down into the planet. And you get the 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:48.420 most heartbreaking scene in the entire film where 00:39:48.420 --> 00:39:51.380 Rocky saves Grace's life by coming out of his 00:39:51.380 --> 00:39:54.059 little crystal cocoon that he's made, this hamster 00:39:54.059 --> 00:39:57.579 ball that he rolls around in and drags Grace 00:39:57.579 --> 00:40:00.980 to safety, which is actually a bit we leapt over. 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.079 So when he meets Grace for the first time in 00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.579 the ship, he says, we sleep together. You sleep 00:40:05.579 --> 00:40:10.639 here. I normally sleep on your chest. Yeah, they 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:14.639 sleep in pairs, yeah. So they protect each other 00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:18.000 because, again, Grace says later on when Rocky 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:22.840 is dead or maybe recovering, he realizes that 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.619 they've got no method of protection when they're 00:40:25.619 --> 00:40:29.659 asleep. So they protect each other. So you get 00:40:29.659 --> 00:40:32.059 this heartbreaking moment where you see Rocky 00:40:32.059 --> 00:40:35.460 basically burning to death in the human atmosphere, 00:40:35.579 --> 00:40:40.199 dragging Grace to the medical robot on the ship. 00:40:40.659 --> 00:40:42.340 Yeah, because what happens is they get a hole 00:40:42.340 --> 00:40:46.429 in there. in the fuel canister, which shoots 00:40:46.429 --> 00:40:50.429 all of the, yeah, all the astrophase shoots out. 00:40:50.510 --> 00:40:52.809 They go spinning, and the G -force is basically 00:40:52.809 --> 00:40:57.570 knock, knock, grace out. It spins him so fast, 00:40:57.570 --> 00:41:01.050 he ends up with gravity of above one. So Earth's 00:41:01.050 --> 00:41:03.329 gravity is one. They spin too fast. You end up 00:41:03.329 --> 00:41:05.949 with gravity that's too strong a gravity, and 00:41:05.949 --> 00:41:07.349 basically, yeah, he gets pinned to the console. 00:41:07.469 --> 00:41:10.949 He blacks out. He blacks out. Yeah, and it's 00:41:10.949 --> 00:41:14.260 just the most moving scene. But anyway. um ryan 00:41:14.260 --> 00:41:17.519 gosling sorry grace then tries to save rocky 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:20.719 rocky comes back to life during that time he's 00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:24.739 managed to breed the towel amoeba which again 00:41:24.739 --> 00:41:26.800 like you've already said you don't see any of 00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.780 it it's just he's bred it they then get one more 00:41:29.780 --> 00:41:31.519 problem but it's fine i'll just breed another 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.280 nitrogen version well the reason they have to 00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:36.480 breed the nitrogen versions because that's the 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.210 they have to breed it the yeah the the atmosphere 00:41:40.210 --> 00:41:43.130 for venus again that's really slightly touched 00:41:43.130 --> 00:41:45.309 on but it's a big massive thing they have to 00:41:45.309 --> 00:41:47.769 get it exactly right so when they send it back 00:41:47.769 --> 00:41:51.550 to their to earth the nitrogen because and the 00:41:51.550 --> 00:41:54.550 one that rocky needed was a different level so 00:41:54.550 --> 00:41:56.670 i think they get his one done first and then 00:41:56.670 --> 00:42:00.210 they have to keep going for the earth one it 00:42:00.210 --> 00:42:03.130 was something like that yeah anyway that all 00:42:03.130 --> 00:42:05.670 happens they get it they all they shake hands 00:42:05.670 --> 00:42:08.719 and say goodbye to each other One more accident. 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:11.559 The astrophage has leaked through the Xenonite, 00:42:11.619 --> 00:42:14.119 which they didn't realise would happen. No, not 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.300 the astrophage. The Talmiba has escaped. Sorry, 00:42:16.300 --> 00:42:19.380 the Talmiba has escaped and goes on a hungry, 00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:23.139 hungry, hungry time for the astrophage, nearly 00:42:23.139 --> 00:42:25.920 wiping out his fuel again. But then he realises 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:30.699 that Rocky has zero chance. so he decides to 00:42:30.699 --> 00:42:33.699 put all of after being saved by rocky and being 00:42:33.699 --> 00:42:35.780 able to go home he decides to actually go and 00:42:35.780 --> 00:42:38.480 save rocky instead sends all the data off batsworth 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:40.360 using the probes they were planning to do in 00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:42.500 the first place and then he goes and rescues 00:42:42.500 --> 00:42:46.059 rocky and they end up living on rocky's planet 00:42:46.059 --> 00:42:48.239 rocky's planet and they've made a whole human 00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.579 environment for him and made a beach because 00:42:50.579 --> 00:42:53.480 if you remember early in the film he says he's 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:55.079 showing the beach is different every day yeah 00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:57.619 and there's a few great jesus oh i really love 00:42:57.619 --> 00:43:01.639 the fog it's like the water's either boiling 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:03.719 or freezing can you get in the middle you know 00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.300 are you sure the daylight people are doing enough 00:43:06.300 --> 00:43:08.159 it's like yes yes i love the greatness of the 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:13.730 fog yeah one of my favorite scenes is when there 00:43:13.730 --> 00:43:16.289 rocky's watching him eat and he's like oh god 00:43:16.289 --> 00:43:18.170 this is disgusting what you're doing with that 00:43:18.170 --> 00:43:20.650 food and then he's like how do you eat and then 00:43:20.650 --> 00:43:23.449 yeah and then rocky just grabs this like rocks 00:43:23.449 --> 00:43:25.550 and shoves it up inside him and it's just like 00:43:25.550 --> 00:43:30.570 kind of reminded me of the noises of the prawns 00:43:30.570 --> 00:43:35.030 eating from yes district to put us into x -rated 00:43:35.030 --> 00:43:38.349 territory rocky basically fists himself with 00:43:38.349 --> 00:43:41.670 black good yeah it was hilarious Oh, it's wonderful. 00:43:41.789 --> 00:43:43.190 Absolutely. Because you just see him put the 00:43:43.190 --> 00:43:45.409 ramen down. He's like, I can't eat anymore after 00:43:45.409 --> 00:43:48.449 seeing that. And it's a great full circle moment 00:43:48.449 --> 00:43:53.210 at the end because Grace is now on the alien 00:43:53.210 --> 00:43:55.789 planet, but he's a teacher again. And he's teaching 00:43:55.789 --> 00:43:58.590 all the baby Rockies. And I love the fact that 00:43:58.590 --> 00:44:00.550 Rocky comes and says, our scientists have said 00:44:00.550 --> 00:44:04.590 they're ready to fix the Hail Mary. You can go 00:44:04.590 --> 00:44:08.340 home. And he just goes. is there any rush about 00:44:08.340 --> 00:44:10.659 that and even rocky's like no there's no rush 00:44:10.659 --> 00:44:13.579 well the thing is rocky wants him there that 00:44:13.579 --> 00:44:16.039 yeah get that idea that they've they've there's 00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.300 this genuine friendship has has happened well 00:44:19.300 --> 00:44:21.340 he doesn't want to the thing in the book he doesn't 00:44:21.340 --> 00:44:23.800 want to go back in the pods to risk dying so 00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:27.099 he has to face something like six years and that 00:44:27.099 --> 00:44:28.719 was one of the reasons why they made the pods 00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:32.900 was they did all these tests and it was basically 00:44:32.900 --> 00:44:35.929 we're saying people go insane And then they kill 00:44:35.929 --> 00:44:37.809 each other or kill themselves before they even 00:44:37.809 --> 00:44:40.530 get there. But that's taken from real science 00:44:40.530 --> 00:44:42.789 and that's been used in God knows how many sci 00:44:42.789 --> 00:44:45.289 -fi films. Alien, for example, the reason that 00:44:45.289 --> 00:44:47.869 they're always in hypersleep for that is because 00:44:47.869 --> 00:44:52.329 the 6, 10, 20 years of travel would drive you 00:44:52.329 --> 00:44:59.369 insane. Yeah. Even Red Dwarf did. Yeah, Red Dwarf 00:44:59.369 --> 00:45:02.059 did it. Yeah, yeah. but you think about it as 00:45:02.059 --> 00:45:04.280 well like what i've always tried to interrupt 00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:05.679 what i've always thought about the alien ones 00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:07.800 i might have mentioned it one one time before 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.880 they like oh blah blah's got like a wife and 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.139 daughter well he's just been in hypersleep for 00:45:13.139 --> 00:45:15.980 20 years what how many years have just happened 00:45:15.980 --> 00:45:19.780 on the planet he's from in that 20 years it's 00:45:19.780 --> 00:45:21.800 never properly concluded but you kind of get 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:25.550 the idea that the people that are doing these 00:45:25.550 --> 00:45:28.010 all their money just goes to their family because 00:45:28.010 --> 00:45:29.389 they know they're never going to see their family 00:45:29.389 --> 00:45:31.610 again and what what do they need money for they 00:45:31.610 --> 00:45:33.630 have these dreams of what their future is going 00:45:33.630 --> 00:45:36.329 to be but realistically they know that they're 00:45:36.329 --> 00:45:37.809 never going to really leave the firm they're 00:45:37.809 --> 00:45:40.809 never going to really leave um well you can't 00:45:40.809 --> 00:45:42.230 it's just you can't leave them getting you in 00:45:42.230 --> 00:45:46.909 that stuff well according to Alien Romulus, yeah. 00:45:47.130 --> 00:45:50.050 It seems that you're contracted in and they're 00:45:50.050 --> 00:45:52.230 pretty evil. The thing about it, if you were 00:45:52.230 --> 00:45:54.829 a horrible person, you could be like, send your 00:45:54.829 --> 00:45:58.929 partner off to go do whatever. Now, the rest 00:45:58.929 --> 00:46:00.369 of your life, you're going to be getting their 00:46:00.369 --> 00:46:03.230 paycheck. You can now go off and meet someone 00:46:03.230 --> 00:46:05.510 else. You'll have a paycheck from this person 00:46:05.510 --> 00:46:06.789 that you just married because you knew they were 00:46:06.789 --> 00:46:07.949 going to go off and you would never see them 00:46:07.949 --> 00:46:09.329 again because they're going to be gone for 80 00:46:09.329 --> 00:46:13.519 years. Or you could go and have multiple partners. 00:46:14.300 --> 00:46:19.480 Get them all sent off. Anyway, that's not Project 00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.239 Hail Mary. That's a different comment. So that's 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:28.420 the story. It really is a space thriller action. 00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:31.420 A little bit of romance even in there because 00:46:31.420 --> 00:46:33.440 the friendship between him and Rocky is more 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:36.639 than just a friendship. It's really almost like... 00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:38.980 Becoming a family together. It's a bromance, 00:46:38.980 --> 00:46:43.300 definitely a bromance. Oh, 100 % in there. A 00:46:43.300 --> 00:46:44.880 little bit of a horror in there. I'm going to 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:49.219 say horror for the pure reason that Andy Weir 00:46:49.219 --> 00:46:53.800 managed to land on something that you cannot 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:56.619 really get out of your mind. Thinking, what would 00:46:56.619 --> 00:46:59.219 we actually do if the sun started to dim? What 00:46:59.219 --> 00:47:01.780 would we actually do in this circumstance if 00:47:01.780 --> 00:47:05.289 something like this really happened? Well, look, 00:47:05.329 --> 00:47:07.949 we can get political on it. We can get political 00:47:07.949 --> 00:47:11.269 on it now. The stuff happening to the planet 00:47:11.269 --> 00:47:13.409 right now, people aren't doing anything about 00:47:13.409 --> 00:47:15.369 it because it's very much like it's not going 00:47:15.369 --> 00:47:18.170 to happen in our lifetime. I think the thing 00:47:18.170 --> 00:47:21.369 that pushes it forwards in that is that it is 00:47:21.369 --> 00:47:23.789 going to happen. It's pushed in the book that 00:47:23.789 --> 00:47:26.289 they have got a very small window of like 30 00:47:26.289 --> 00:47:29.670 years or something. 30 years. And this trip entirely 00:47:29.670 --> 00:47:33.130 was going to take something like 22 of Earth 00:47:33.130 --> 00:47:36.369 years. so they're like you have to go and do 00:47:36.369 --> 00:47:39.329 it now you have to didn't she say as well so 00:47:39.329 --> 00:47:42.110 they're like it's 30 years and then when she's 00:47:42.110 --> 00:47:44.230 trying to persuade him that he's the one to go 00:47:44.230 --> 00:47:46.250 she basically said i basically doubled those 00:47:46.250 --> 00:47:48.090 numbers to make it seem like it was something 00:47:48.090 --> 00:47:51.309 achievable realistically we haven't got that 00:47:51.309 --> 00:47:53.789 hence the reason when the probe and stuff gets 00:47:53.789 --> 00:47:56.329 back to them and she's like let's get going again 00:47:56.329 --> 00:48:00.090 it's it's basically nuclear winter there's just 00:48:00.090 --> 00:48:03.480 it's it's a full -on ice age again yeah they 00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:05.139 already will have had loads of people die on 00:48:05.139 --> 00:48:08.400 earth and there's nothing that like he wasn't 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.099 slow it still went back within the time frame 00:48:11.099 --> 00:48:13.159 as far as i can remember from the book and it 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.340 kind of implies that in the film too but it doesn't 00:48:15.340 --> 00:48:18.659 matter because she lied about how much time but 00:48:18.659 --> 00:48:21.559 at least some people will be saved this is it 00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:23.659 they will save some of the world and they will 00:48:23.659 --> 00:48:26.360 be able to bring it back to where we were as 00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:29.239 long as something is done based on if he finds 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:31.820 an answer because Again, the whole point of the 00:48:31.820 --> 00:48:34.719 film being called Hail Mary is because no one 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:36.960 else has any idea what to do. No one else has 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:42.860 come up with an idea. Yeah. Okay, so that was 00:48:42.860 --> 00:48:46.619 the story. God, where do you want to go about 00:48:46.619 --> 00:48:48.340 it? Because I've got so much I could say about 00:48:48.340 --> 00:48:53.340 it. It's just, where do you start? Well, we touched 00:48:53.340 --> 00:48:56.360 on a few points as we've been going along. But 00:48:56.360 --> 00:49:01.840 it's... i one of the best bits about it i think 00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:06.920 was the was the score it was really it was like 00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:09.559 its own character you know it really did a good 00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:14.099 job at giving and giving you emotion and being 00:49:14.099 --> 00:49:17.000 completely silent at points that it needed to 00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:21.039 be silent you know and i would argue not just 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:24.860 the score but the the full -on the sound full 00:49:24.860 --> 00:49:28.920 stop so i know we're talking about points where 00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:30.579 you've got this beautiful orchestral background 00:49:30.579 --> 00:49:34.139 music going on or even not just the background 00:49:34.139 --> 00:49:37.659 but the everything about the the orchestral straws 00:49:37.659 --> 00:49:40.219 but what about the sounds that rocky made it 00:49:40.219 --> 00:49:43.480 just felt perfect it just felt absolutely natural 00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:48.099 yeah he speak he speaks in music which is great 00:49:48.099 --> 00:49:52.360 and his ship like plays music as he's walking 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:57.179 on everything is sound so it was just Even just 00:49:57.179 --> 00:49:59.099 walking around his ship just sounded brilliant 00:49:59.099 --> 00:50:02.820 when you get to see it. He has a little machine, 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:04.739 doesn't he? A weird gemstone on the end of a 00:50:04.739 --> 00:50:11.780 stick which translates images into kind of a 00:50:11.780 --> 00:50:15.400 weird pad thing that he can see with his eyes. 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.039 He gives texture to things in the head of him 00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.059 so he can see a computer screen because a computer 00:50:20.059 --> 00:50:22.460 screen has no texture so he can't echolocate 00:50:22.460 --> 00:50:26.739 on it. But this machine reads it. and then gives 00:50:26.739 --> 00:50:29.579 him almost like a braille thing in front of him 00:50:29.579 --> 00:50:32.500 but for sound yes because obviously again you 00:50:32.500 --> 00:50:34.480 get that wonderful moment where grace i'm showing 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.280 you a clock why can't you echo location you've 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.960 got no eyes yeah and then he goes and sticks 00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.400 the tape on it and he's like rocky suddenly explodes 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.860 with excitement amaze amaze amaze numbers numbers 00:50:45.860 --> 00:50:52.880 i know this i know this um the entire language 00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:56.019 and what they chose for rocky speaking as well 00:50:56.019 --> 00:50:59.659 was perfect now there will be people out there 00:50:59.659 --> 00:51:02.820 going oh well it's very unbelievable that within 00:51:02.820 --> 00:51:04.559 the period of time they were they came up with 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:06.719 this entire ability to have dialogue like this 00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.579 don't care really don't care they left them a 00:51:10.579 --> 00:51:13.380 long time in the book yeah they look what they 00:51:13.380 --> 00:51:16.199 left it limited enough things like um again things 00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:20.380 like amaze amaze amaze or question Grumpy, angry, 00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:24.340 stupid. How long since last seat? Question. Or 00:51:24.340 --> 00:51:29.519 statement. Yeah, he has to explain to Rocky he 00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.539 has to sleep every certain amount of hours. And 00:51:32.539 --> 00:51:34.840 Rocky's like, what? I sleep like once a week 00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.360 or something or like once a month. They don't 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.760 really sleep. But when they sleep, they sleep 00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:42.460 for a long time. And yeah, that's what it's like. 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:43.920 Well, how do I know when you need sleep? And 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:45.980 he says to him, oh, because I'll get grumpy. 00:51:46.019 --> 00:51:48.000 I get stupid. And that's why he makes that comment. 00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.119 Are you grumpy, stupid? Yeah. You're being grumpy 00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.780 and stupid. You need sleep. But there are so 00:51:53.780 --> 00:51:59.300 many quotes from this film. And I'm using IMDb 00:51:59.300 --> 00:52:01.079 here, not because I'm being lazy and I can't 00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:02.840 remember. It's just because I want to get them 00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:04.659 just absolutely right. And there's the bit where, 00:52:04.739 --> 00:52:08.260 basically, Grace here is knocking at the door. 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:10.059 It's like, what the fuck's going on? He's literally 00:52:10.059 --> 00:52:12.440 just got to met Rocky on his own ship at their 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.179 little window. He's gone back to say, right, 00:52:15.260 --> 00:52:18.219 I need to kind of... process what's going on. 00:52:18.260 --> 00:52:20.199 Then all of a sudden he's hearing knocking at 00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.579 the airlock door and in rolls Rocky in this kind 00:52:23.579 --> 00:52:26.400 of hamster ball thing. And they're flying around 00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:28.699 the ship and you've just got Rocky going, dirty, 00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:31.780 dirty, dirty, dirty. Why room so messy? Question. 00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:34.659 I wasn't expecting company, was I? Ah, this room 00:52:34.659 --> 00:52:40.619 for garbage. Oh. Absolutely. Just absolutely 00:52:40.619 --> 00:52:45.780 just made me crease up. Fist my bump. Well, yeah, 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.699 fist my bum. That's not something we say. Yeah. 00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:55.920 Again, the very end, towards the very end. And 00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:59.099 it's the most beautiful thing, even though it's 00:52:59.099 --> 00:53:02.019 bad English, and it's meant to be. Rocky watch 00:53:02.019 --> 00:53:06.820 whole crew die. Rocky not fix. Grace say grace 00:53:06.820 --> 00:53:10.659 will die. Rocky fix. It's just the most beautiful 00:53:10.659 --> 00:53:13.539 part of that bit, because it just shows that... 00:53:14.059 --> 00:53:17.500 They've had, or Andy Weir, I guess, had the ability 00:53:17.500 --> 00:53:19.500 just to say, well, just because there's this 00:53:19.500 --> 00:53:22.579 alien race and there's no, they're not the same, 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:24.360 they don't look the same, they don't act the 00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:27.099 same, they don't speak the same. He's managed 00:53:27.099 --> 00:53:30.000 to build a relationship that's so totally believable. 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:35.219 Yeah, I like this one. Rocky says, I have an 00:53:35.219 --> 00:53:38.559 idea. First, no crash, then no explode. Deal? 00:53:38.860 --> 00:53:45.059 Yeah, I like that one. That was brilliant. Grace 00:53:45.059 --> 00:53:49.539 got mate. Oh, no, no, she left me for a bloke 00:53:49.539 --> 00:53:52.519 called Rocky Hate Mark. Yeah, Rocky Hate Mark, 00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:58.800 yeah. It's like, yes, that's just... Oh, but 00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:02.400 there's so many lines in it, isn't there? There's 00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.699 the bit when, basically, they turn up at the 00:54:04.699 --> 00:54:08.699 school, take him away, and he's the first person 00:54:08.699 --> 00:54:11.300 to contact with the astrophage, and he's in a 00:54:11.300 --> 00:54:13.710 room full of argon. And you've got all these 00:54:13.710 --> 00:54:16.789 world leaders and the German leader in a sealed 00:54:16.789 --> 00:54:21.789 off room. And it's like, am I expendable? Am 00:54:21.789 --> 00:54:24.489 I expendable? It's like, why have you turned 00:54:24.489 --> 00:54:26.190 around to talk to them? Why are you asking them? 00:54:26.210 --> 00:54:28.550 They discuss, yeah, they discuss with each other 00:54:28.550 --> 00:54:30.809 whether it's expendable. And it even just goes 00:54:30.809 --> 00:54:32.489 back to the consensus here is that it would be 00:54:32.489 --> 00:54:36.190 preferable if you did not die. Yeah. And she 00:54:36.190 --> 00:54:38.550 makes them all clap all the time. Do you know 00:54:38.550 --> 00:54:41.289 this as well? Every time he did something, she 00:54:41.289 --> 00:54:43.090 was like, clap, and then they all start clapping 00:54:43.090 --> 00:54:46.989 for him. It's like he needs to have it, yeah. 00:54:47.590 --> 00:54:51.190 Yeah, I've got to say, there is something, and 00:54:51.190 --> 00:54:53.929 it's not a big part of the film, although it 00:54:53.929 --> 00:54:55.889 is a really big part of the film because it's 00:54:55.889 --> 00:54:59.510 why Grace actually is allowed to continue doing 00:54:59.510 --> 00:55:02.670 what he's doing and gets brought to the ship. 00:55:03.340 --> 00:55:06.400 that they're all working from, and that is the 00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:10.480 discovery of him accidentally breeding Astrophage. 00:55:10.980 --> 00:55:15.340 Now, it's a massive moment in the film, but my 00:55:15.340 --> 00:55:20.679 God, the reaction, the writing, and I don't know 00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:23.159 what it's like in the book, but on screen, the 00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:27.039 connection between Grace and Carl. cull from 00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:29.840 um the fbi or the government or whatever he is 00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:32.599 this one security bloke that has left working 00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:35.619 with him it's just wonderful because there's 00:55:35.619 --> 00:55:38.900 this this absolutely just brilliantly conveyed 00:55:38.900 --> 00:55:42.320 it's just like we need to go shopping have you 00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:45.599 got a credit card yes and off they go and then 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:47.440 they're pratting around in the shop and there's 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:49.900 the the cashier moment there's a we are the gun 00:55:49.900 --> 00:55:54.690 which one all of them yeah well that's it not 00:55:54.690 --> 00:55:56.829 explained too well i don't think that aspect 00:55:56.829 --> 00:56:01.289 like ava is like appointed by the world to be 00:56:01.289 --> 00:56:05.449 in charge of it um i think and she basically 00:56:05.449 --> 00:56:10.550 breaks all laws all the way through and i think 00:56:10.550 --> 00:56:12.690 in the book she goes to prison or they're saying 00:56:12.690 --> 00:56:14.610 to her basically when this mission's off i'm 00:56:14.610 --> 00:56:18.050 going to be in jail yeah i probably you know 00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:19.980 I'm going to be going to prison for like not 00:56:19.980 --> 00:56:21.920 war crimes, but you know, the level of breaking 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.119 every UN law and every NATO rule completely. 00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:28.800 She doesn't, she does because her point was she 00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:31.260 was appointed to save the planet and she had, 00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:33.760 she can go to any country she wants and be in 00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.360 charge. And she does and upsets everyone while 00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:40.880 doing it. Yeah. Now. Okay. So we have often, 00:56:40.940 --> 00:56:44.739 often, often, often criticized films for just 00:56:44.739 --> 00:56:49.380 being purely CGI. Now. I'm pretty sure this entire 00:56:49.380 --> 00:56:52.619 film is CGI. Obviously, graces and the sets, 00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:56.139 a large proportion of the sets aren't. But wow, 00:56:56.260 --> 00:56:59.579 did they get space looking good. At no point. 00:56:59.659 --> 00:57:04.019 The ships looked good. I believed everything. 00:57:04.750 --> 00:57:07.150 There was no point watching that did I think, 00:57:07.230 --> 00:57:09.030 well, they've really done a nice job with the 00:57:09.030 --> 00:57:12.329 CGI on that planet or that Petrova line there 00:57:12.329 --> 00:57:14.269 looks really fancy. I wonder how long it took 00:57:14.269 --> 00:57:16.829 them to render that. Never crossed my mind. I 00:57:16.829 --> 00:57:18.829 was like, no, that's real. This is a documentary. 00:57:18.829 --> 00:57:21.030 As far as I'm concerned, this is a documentary 00:57:21.030 --> 00:57:24.369 in 4K. You know what I mean? So this happened. 00:57:24.469 --> 00:57:27.510 It was 2005. We had a really wicked winter. Now 00:57:27.510 --> 00:57:29.909 I know why it was so cold and snowy. No, this 00:57:29.909 --> 00:57:31.510 is what happened during COVID when we were all 00:57:31.510 --> 00:57:34.760 inside. This was happening on the outside. This 00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:36.460 was the real reason why we had to stay in because 00:57:36.460 --> 00:57:39.639 the sun was going dark. Yeah, we weren't allowed 00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:41.920 to see it. But the point is, yeah, it's just, 00:57:41.940 --> 00:57:47.159 it looked, it sounded. I mean, Ryan Gosling, 00:57:47.219 --> 00:57:49.679 like you said, he's known for the slapstick comedy. 00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:51.880 I mean, the last one, let's see, the Fall Guy 00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:59.300 comedy film, Ken and Barbie comedy film. To get 00:57:59.300 --> 00:58:02.159 him in a semi -serious role while also being 00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:06.110 allowed to be funny. It was just the perfect 00:58:06.110 --> 00:58:08.630 role for him. I couldn't imagine anyone else 00:58:08.630 --> 00:58:12.530 in that position. I really couldn't. I mean, 00:58:12.550 --> 00:58:14.949 I know he hasn't just done comedy films. Don't 00:58:14.949 --> 00:58:20.050 get me wrong. I know he hasn't. But he is good 00:58:20.050 --> 00:58:22.409 at doing funny, but he is good at doing acting 00:58:22.409 --> 00:58:24.210 as well. And the fact that they let him do both 00:58:24.210 --> 00:58:26.769 in this, it really was a thing of beauty. It 00:58:26.769 --> 00:58:31.289 really, really was just good. I genuinely cannot 00:58:31.289 --> 00:58:35.500 see this film not... winning awards for everything 00:58:35.500 --> 00:58:39.579 the thing is it's it's it's kind of released 00:58:39.579 --> 00:58:42.179 just after all the rewards hasn't it so it's 00:58:42.179 --> 00:58:43.940 going to be forgotten about by the time it gets 00:58:43.940 --> 00:58:48.599 the awards again and it deserves every all the 00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:52.079 praise it gets and i hope people do go see it 00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:56.900 because it's it's sci -fi how you want sci -fi 00:58:56.900 --> 00:59:01.960 to be it's funny as well and it's just yeah it's 00:59:02.429 --> 00:59:04.550 I said to Miranda when I got home, it's one of 00:59:04.550 --> 00:59:08.329 the best sci -fis I have watched in a very long 00:59:08.329 --> 00:59:11.010 time. And you and me watch a lot of sci -fi and 00:59:11.010 --> 00:59:14.769 I'm trying not to use like, you know, a bias 00:59:14.769 --> 00:59:16.789 because I've just watched it. You know, what's 00:59:16.789 --> 00:59:18.750 that called? Like a recent bias or whatever. 00:59:19.130 --> 00:59:22.949 Try my best to not be that way. But this film 00:59:22.949 --> 00:59:25.690 is absolutely brilliant. I love the book anyway. 00:59:26.050 --> 00:59:28.429 This has just made me love the book even more 00:59:28.429 --> 00:59:31.409 and the story more. I want to see it again. Yeah. 00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:35.139 I mean, I am seeing it again. I've told Gem how 00:59:35.139 --> 00:59:38.079 much I loved it and that my words to her were, 00:59:38.139 --> 00:59:41.719 if I wasn't recording this tonight and had plans 00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:43.639 with the kids, I would have blown them all off 00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.639 to go to the cinema again this evening. I genuinely 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:49.099 want to see it again that much just to see what 00:59:49.099 --> 00:59:52.380 I missed the first time round. And you're right, 00:59:52.420 --> 00:59:54.579 there is very little negative I can bring up 00:59:54.579 --> 00:59:57.769 about it. I mean, if I want to be picky... I 00:59:57.769 --> 01:00:00.869 would argue that he would definitely not be a 01:00:00.869 --> 01:00:02.949 teacher if he's that willing to tell children 01:00:02.949 --> 01:00:04.869 we're all going to die, basically when they start 01:00:04.869 --> 01:00:07.110 asking him questions and he finally gives in 01:00:07.110 --> 01:00:09.949 and explains exactly what's going on, absolutely 01:00:09.949 --> 01:00:14.789 ruining those children's lives that day. And 01:00:14.789 --> 01:00:19.210 I would also say, as much as I know it's not 01:00:19.210 --> 01:00:22.030 a believable film because he's basically, we're 01:00:22.030 --> 01:00:25.340 talking about near light speed. an imaginary 01:00:25.340 --> 01:00:29.199 species and all sorts of things but he's got 01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:32.380 memory loss yet he still remembers all the science 01:00:32.380 --> 01:00:35.420 kind of believable because what it is the drug 01:00:35.420 --> 01:00:37.519 i was trying to work out was a drug called midazolam 01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.780 where you give it to your patient but it stops 01:00:40.780 --> 01:00:43.380 them a lot bit like rehypnol it stops them forming 01:00:43.380 --> 01:00:48.039 um memories so it doesn't affect long -term memory 01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:50.619 but short -term memory it stops you from forming 01:00:50.619 --> 01:00:53.619 short -term memory so waking up not having any 01:00:53.619 --> 01:00:58.099 memory absolutely makes sense but he's never 01:00:58.099 --> 01:01:00.960 learned to pilot the ship he didn't have time 01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:04.639 they blew the ships up he then got told you are 01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.199 our answer you are my get out of jail freezer 01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:09.639 you are the one that's going in their space he 01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:11.360 even said i haven't done any of the astronaut 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:12.820 stuff and it's like it doesn't matter you're 01:01:12.820 --> 01:01:15.579 going to be asleep we just need a scientist but 01:01:15.579 --> 01:01:18.420 he's capable of flying and he works what knows 01:01:18.420 --> 01:01:21.530 what all the buttons in the cockpit does If I'm 01:01:21.530 --> 01:01:24.329 going to be really anal, that's what I would 01:01:24.329 --> 01:01:27.730 pick up on this. How does he know how the cockpit 01:01:27.730 --> 01:01:32.369 and everything works? Well, that's it. I think 01:01:32.369 --> 01:01:34.050 it's because they just made the point that he's 01:01:34.050 --> 01:01:37.869 been there present in every single briefing and 01:01:37.869 --> 01:01:40.070 every single moment all the way through just 01:01:40.070 --> 01:01:42.690 because he has been. He's been part of the building 01:01:42.690 --> 01:01:48.010 of the ship, hasn't he? Yeah. The ship's already 01:01:48.010 --> 01:01:51.440 built. But when they get him involved, I think, 01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:53.519 or partially, they just didn't know how they 01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:57.539 were going to fuel it. Oh, OK. So the film doesn't 01:01:57.539 --> 01:01:59.239 have that. The film makes it sound like we're 01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:01.019 building the ship from scratch for you to go. 01:02:01.099 --> 01:02:03.019 Yeah, I can't really remember. There's a lot 01:02:03.019 --> 01:02:05.199 of it already kind of done and ready to go. That's 01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:06.800 why he's like, you can't just build a ship and 01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:10.539 like, no, we can. It's done. Next. OK. Make it 01:02:10.539 --> 01:02:14.619 work. No, that's fine. OK, fine. But my argument 01:02:14.619 --> 01:02:18.860 would still be. he's not had enough time to learn 01:02:18.860 --> 01:02:21.579 about every single thing in that. And that is 01:02:21.579 --> 01:02:24.199 me being really anal. That's not me going, I 01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:26.159 hated it or I disliked it because of that one 01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:28.619 scene. Not at all. I couldn't give a shit about 01:02:28.619 --> 01:02:31.900 that because the film was so good, I absolutely 01:02:31.900 --> 01:02:34.719 didn't think about it at the time. Well, that's 01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:36.800 a bit of a loophole, isn't it? I mean, you could 01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:39.039 go for a loophole. Rocky's ship would have been 01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:40.639 the better ship for them to take, especially 01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:42.800 if Rocky could make him his own spacesuit out 01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.829 of the glass stuff. surely rocky shit would have 01:02:45.829 --> 01:02:48.570 been better to take because it seemed to be bigger 01:02:48.570 --> 01:02:50.789 stronger and probably more capable which also 01:02:50.789 --> 01:02:53.269 would have given rocky access to all the equipment 01:02:53.269 --> 01:02:55.710 he needed to make the collection device and everything 01:02:55.710 --> 01:02:58.769 else yeah so there's there's choices that were 01:02:58.769 --> 01:03:04.349 made and oh that's sorry just to interrupt i 01:03:04.349 --> 01:03:09.929 just did search about the nuclear thing um one 01:03:09.929 --> 01:03:12.869 of the reasons why she goes to prisons because 01:03:12.869 --> 01:03:17.880 she uses 241 nukes to release methane into the 01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:22.039 atmosphere to warm the planet back up oh okay 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:25.280 yeah because they tried force global warming 01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:28.940 to help heat the planet so she blows up a lot 01:03:28.940 --> 01:03:33.619 of methane yeah yeah so i got the nuclear propulsion 01:03:33.619 --> 01:03:35.760 thing wrong i kind of i remembered there was 01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.619 nukes i must be thinking about a different film 01:03:37.619 --> 01:03:41.019 that uses it but i guess the point of the film 01:03:41.019 --> 01:03:43.360 is If you want to look at the Hollywood equation, 01:03:43.739 --> 01:03:47.940 I guess, you have one bad guy and you're very 01:03:47.940 --> 01:03:51.159 close for Eva, the German scientist, the person 01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:55.380 leading it. You're already at the point of when 01:03:55.380 --> 01:03:57.699 he finally ends up in space and seeing that she's 01:03:57.699 --> 01:04:00.360 basically forced him, holds him down and puts 01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:03.880 him to sleep. That's making a second bad guy. 01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.159 And I guess including that in the film, you're 01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:10.920 making an even bigger bad guy, which... then 01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:13.559 makes you question, well, why would anyone want 01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:18.820 to do anything for her if she's so evil in what 01:04:18.820 --> 01:04:21.960 she does? She just makes people do things. Yeah. 01:04:22.380 --> 01:04:25.000 So I kind of understand why they didn't include 01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:29.179 that, because you don't need an additional storyline 01:04:29.179 --> 01:04:31.820 going on in a film like this for the general 01:04:31.820 --> 01:04:37.199 viewers. I think her character... It's portrayed 01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:39.539 much more human in the film than in the book. 01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:44.599 In the book, she is very much, it's really hard 01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:50.440 to explain. Imagine like the worst person, like 01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:54.840 let's say Hitler as an example. But rather than 01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.480 wanting to do all those horrible things, they're 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:01.739 doing them for actually a genuine real good reason. 01:05:01.780 --> 01:05:05.110 And the genuine real good reason is. saving the 01:05:05.110 --> 01:05:08.150 entire world's population. Obviously, Hitler 01:05:08.150 --> 01:05:12.570 wanted to kill people. She will do anything that 01:05:12.570 --> 01:05:16.670 means the greater good of the people on Earth 01:05:16.670 --> 01:05:19.050 surviving and the human race surviving. Like 01:05:19.050 --> 01:05:23.369 blowing up all those nukes, causing catastrophic, 01:05:23.730 --> 01:05:29.929 unfixable damage to the planet's atmosphere. 01:05:31.099 --> 01:05:33.320 Global warming. But it keeps the planet that 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:36.039 few degrees warmer for a little few more years 01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:40.380 to give the ship more time. She's doing what 01:05:40.380 --> 01:05:43.440 bureaucracy would prevent. So if we put it to 01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:46.420 the world leaders, this is what we need to do, 01:05:46.579 --> 01:05:49.179 you're giving someone the chance to say, no, 01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:52.239 I think that's a bad idea. Whereas when you know 01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:55.900 this is the only option, you can't afford for 01:05:55.900 --> 01:05:58.880 people to say this is a bad idea when it's the 01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:02.139 only option you have. Yeah, like dictators will 01:06:02.139 --> 01:06:04.579 be doing stuff to their countries or whatever 01:06:04.579 --> 01:06:09.019 for their selfish reasons. She's not. She's doing 01:06:09.019 --> 01:06:13.139 all the things for unselfish reasons, but still 01:06:13.139 --> 01:06:16.920 comes across as this very cold, extremely intelligent, 01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:22.679 calculating woman. It's not even me. Yeah, it's 01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:25.860 not as black and white as you might think it 01:06:25.860 --> 01:06:28.380 is. Yeah, and it's not for the betterment of 01:06:28.380 --> 01:06:30.300 the world, it's for the saving of the world. 01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:32.960 That's the key point, isn't it? Whereas dictators 01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:35.960 often doing it for the betterment of their country, 01:06:36.139 --> 01:06:39.320 in quote marks, it's actually, as you say, very 01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:41.300 selfish, whereas everything that's been done 01:06:41.300 --> 01:06:44.139 for this film is for the survival of the human 01:06:44.139 --> 01:06:47.500 race. Exactly. What we kind of didn't explain, 01:06:47.579 --> 01:06:50.059 because we kind of did the story in order, didn't 01:06:50.059 --> 01:06:56.380 we, with this is happening, science, space. if 01:06:56.380 --> 01:06:58.179 you haven't seen the film what you really need 01:06:58.179 --> 01:07:01.940 to understand is it is not in order so the main 01:07:01.940 --> 01:07:04.679 part of the story of him being in space doing 01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:06.860 this discovery and doing doing the world saving 01:07:06.860 --> 01:07:12.800 stuff is interconnected with all these flashbacks 01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:16.860 of his memory returning again in order so the 01:07:16.860 --> 01:07:20.000 beginning and so the beginning up to halfway 01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:23.980 and let's say that's the the sun is going dark 01:07:23.980 --> 01:07:26.480 to making the discovery in the spaceship launch 01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:29.760 and then the waking up in space and then saving 01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.500 the world they're two separate stories basically 01:07:32.500 --> 01:07:34.059 you've got that first bit and you've got the 01:07:34.059 --> 01:07:35.980 second bit now what they've done is they've put 01:07:35.980 --> 01:07:38.420 them on top of each other cut them up and interconnected 01:07:38.420 --> 01:07:41.579 it so the first the top story of the world being 01:07:41.579 --> 01:07:44.820 saved which is what everyone is there for is 01:07:44.820 --> 01:07:47.639 the main one you're watching but that first story 01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:50.630 about how everything started is just all his 01:07:50.630 --> 01:07:52.750 memory returning and i thought that was an absolutely 01:07:52.750 --> 01:07:55.650 brilliant way of doing it rather than because 01:07:55.650 --> 01:07:57.610 i don't genuinely don't think it would have worked 01:07:57.610 --> 01:08:02.610 doing it in order no well how they do it that's 01:08:02.610 --> 01:08:04.130 how it's done in the book is the book starts 01:08:04.130 --> 01:08:07.110 off with the robot touching him up they've done 01:08:07.110 --> 01:08:11.789 it in the exact same order yeah and um yeah i 01:08:11.789 --> 01:08:15.469 mean you could you could change it so you didn't 01:08:15.469 --> 01:08:18.069 have the You could explain away the memory loss 01:08:18.069 --> 01:08:20.289 and then a few days later, oh, now this has been 01:08:20.289 --> 01:08:25.069 remembered and so on. I just don't see any way 01:08:25.069 --> 01:08:26.609 it would have worked. The way it's been written 01:08:26.609 --> 01:08:29.989 was perfect. It really, really made the story 01:08:29.989 --> 01:08:31.989 work. Whereas if you tried to tell the story 01:08:31.989 --> 01:08:35.710 from point A to point B, rather than doing point 01:08:35.710 --> 01:08:40.729 B to C to E to D to A and then back to F at the 01:08:40.729 --> 01:08:45.630 end. it works for this going from a to e or a 01:08:45.630 --> 01:08:48.590 to b in the straight line would not have worked 01:08:48.590 --> 01:08:51.989 for this story yeah it would have been boring 01:08:51.989 --> 01:08:54.489 it would have dragged and people would have been 01:08:54.489 --> 01:08:57.329 lost for the first hour and then the final hour 01:08:57.329 --> 01:08:59.550 and a half they're going to go oh fine it's starting 01:08:59.550 --> 01:09:07.130 to pick up yeah oh we've been talking about an 01:09:07.130 --> 01:09:11.010 hour over an hour now So would you recommend 01:09:11.010 --> 01:09:14.850 it? I wouldn't. No, shit. Yeah, terrible film. 01:09:15.090 --> 01:09:17.250 Yeah, definitely terrible. Watch it when it's 01:09:17.250 --> 01:09:24.170 free on Netflix. No, go see this film. Go and 01:09:24.170 --> 01:09:27.010 see it. I've only recently seen Interstellar 01:09:27.010 --> 01:09:28.649 last year. It was the first time I've ever seen 01:09:28.649 --> 01:09:31.069 Interstellar. This pisses all over Interstellar. 01:09:31.289 --> 01:09:33.470 And I thought Interstellar was amazing. This 01:09:33.470 --> 01:09:36.270 absolutely urinates on it from a great height, 01:09:36.310 --> 01:09:38.090 in my opinion. Yeah, Interstellar is a great 01:09:38.090 --> 01:09:40.489 film, but for slightly different reasons, really. 01:09:43.289 --> 01:09:44.949 Interstellar, I think, can be a bit of a mind 01:09:44.949 --> 01:09:49.029 slog. Whereas this one, you are engaged. At the 01:09:49.029 --> 01:09:51.090 beginning, I did not realise that was two and 01:09:51.090 --> 01:09:54.829 a half hours. That went so fast that I just... 01:09:55.100 --> 01:09:56.899 Had no idea that was two and a half hours. I 01:09:56.899 --> 01:09:59.619 adored this film. Best sci -fi I've seen in a 01:09:59.619 --> 01:10:01.640 very long time. We watched a lot of sci -fi. 01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:04.859 I cannot wait to see this film again. Yeah, I 01:10:04.859 --> 01:10:06.800 can't. It's going to be a Blu -ray. But I said 01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.659 as soon as we walked outside, didn't I? This 01:10:08.659 --> 01:10:11.220 is on pre -order as of this morning on Blu -ray 01:10:11.220 --> 01:10:14.479 from Amazon. It'll turn up on release. Yeah, 01:10:14.500 --> 01:10:16.460 I think it'll be the first Blu -ray I've brought 01:10:16.460 --> 01:10:17.819 in a long time as well because I might buy myself 01:10:17.819 --> 01:10:23.140 one too. So yeah, I think that's it. We've said 01:10:23.140 --> 01:10:27.829 enough. sorry that we we missed so much we have 01:10:27.829 --> 01:10:31.609 oh there's we could keep talking but i mean sorry 01:10:31.609 --> 01:10:33.229 this isn't like a normal episode we're supposed 01:10:33.229 --> 01:10:35.029 to be doing bride of frankenstein but that's 01:10:35.029 --> 01:10:37.329 going to be the next one you've got this one 01:10:37.329 --> 01:10:40.569 so we wanted to talk about it i knew we're going 01:10:40.569 --> 01:10:44.489 to talk about a long time so um thank you everyone 01:10:44.489 --> 01:10:47.699 for listening We've been Rob and TJ. We didn't 01:10:47.699 --> 01:10:50.380 introduce ourselves at the beginning. 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