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Access denied. Access denied. Access denied.

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Maintenance line. Access granted. We could get

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in People Magazine. People? Hell! National Geographic.

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We've been telling you the truth since the beginning.

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And now we're ready to prove it. Look, you want

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to compare brain pans? I won the Westinghouse

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Prize when I was 12. My blue barb has broken.

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The birth spasm has begun. You're going to feel

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very silly when this turns out to be all just

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make -believe. Ah, should we go straight into

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Guess the Intro? I think that's a very good idea.

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Enter authorization code. So, as everyone who

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actually listened to the last episode will know,

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I did a Guess the Intro. You did? And I said

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I didn't know at the time of recording what I

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was going to do, and I did one. Well, yes, because

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the week before, oh, not the week before, the

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episode before, you hadn't done one. And I think

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we kind of said it the episode before that. There

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will be against the intro. Yeah, I did always.

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No, I kind of was just saying it was based on

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how easy I was going to find it to do the things.

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But Matt upon a Cthulhu told me to use audacity.

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And there's a setting in audacity where you can

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set the recording up to mirror the way you're

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listening to it. You can't do that in Adobe.

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No. So. It was great. So I had it going to my

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headphones and I just told Audacity, just record

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what's going to my headphones. Made the whole

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thing so much quicker than it's ever been. Whereas

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before I had to download the entire clip, put

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it into Davion and find it and cut it out. And

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then the file would be massive because it seems

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to hold a lot of information when you've cut

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stuff out. And then our server's full of loads

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of these really massive files, which I'd probably

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just go and delete. But this one, you can actually

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just... press play in the YouTube view, press

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play. Well, you say our server's full of files.

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Bear in mind, an average variety show comes in

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at about 10 gig from the recorder, and I've got

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all the original files still for every episode.

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How big is the server? I think we've got two

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or four terabytes. We're going to have to upgrade

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it at some point. I can hope not. We'll delete

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stuff. We'll just delete stuff. Well, no, what

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I'm going to do, I'll probably buy a decently

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sized... usb drive and i'll move stuff onto that

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that's going to be archived that i know can just

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sit there stale but anyway that that would have

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saved saved guess the intro essentially because

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it was just taking such a shorter amount of time

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still got a hunt for the clips i want but to

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just go click record done don't pop that straight

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in tidy up slightly anyway so i was disappointed

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that this wasn't The Alan Richson one. Well,

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that happened after though, didn't it? No, just

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waiting one day. There's going to be like six

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of these and they're just going to be all Alan

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Richson. That'll be the link. It'll be obvious.

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The link's Alan Richson. I'll do it for this

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episode. I'll really spoil it then. And obviously,

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if you want to listen to the Alan Richson homoerotic

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hour, go listen to the Variety Show episode 76.

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Yeah, the last Variety Show episode. What's up?

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Low -key, low -key. What's up? What's wrong?

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we've been visited by a dog yeah he's headbutting

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the the mic stand i want to play no he probably

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wants food even no stop stop you're making a

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racket you're making a racket he's like mummy's

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over there mummy is any of this edible ow ow

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ow no he's pouring me this is not for the show

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this is not good for people listening they can't

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see how cute you are he's like fuck you right

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first one welcome to downtown Poolsville. Population.

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Us. I'm pretty sure I've used that exact clip

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before. I'm pretty sure you've used a couple

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of these before. Iron Giant. Yeah, Iron Giant.

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Well, you've definitely used, I would say, three

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of these have featured. Well, not the exact clips.

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Not necessarily the exact clip. Yeah, the things

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might have, but I think that exact clip I've

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used before. Right, okay. Well, that was the

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Iron Giant. Absolutely brilliant film. Do you

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know who voiced the Iron Giant, the robot himself?

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No. Vin Diesel. Oh, did he? Yep. One of his first

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acting gigs. Does it speak? Or is it just...

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It does speak at the end. I vaguely remember

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him saying friend or something. Oh, it was a

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great film. Absolutely heartbreaking film. He's

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the voice of Groot, isn't he? He is. I am Groot.

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There's incredible inertia. Maybe it's just glad

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to see you. Hi, Alan. Flubber. Flubber. I've

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not used Flubber before. Yes, you have. Have

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I? Yep. I've got all of it written down. I'm

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sure you've done Flubber before. I'm certain

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you've done Flubber before. Oh, well, sorry,

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everybody. I'm getting boring. It might have

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been, did you do one on sound effects? No. I'm

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sure you've done Flubber before somewhere. Okay,

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I'm going to have to get better at this. Next

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one. What's on your head? I was looking for the

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kids. We are in a coal mine? They're in the backyard.

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I still love this film. It's Honey, I Shrunk

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the Kids. It's a great film. Absolutely great

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film, but so many people dislike it. Has it got

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a warning on it now? I don't think so. We can't

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watch this because something happens. It makes

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fun of small people. Yeah. No, it's a really

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good film. I love it. The second, the sequel

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was shite. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, that is rubbish.

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And it's marginalising the ants. This stuff will

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make you a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus. Just

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like me. I have done this film before. That's

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Predator, isn't it? Predator, yeah. Yeah. Trying

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to picture which part. It's right at the start.

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He's in the helicopter and they're going to their

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mission. Yes. And it's the big guy with the stets

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and the hat and he's got a cigar. Yeah, that's

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the one. Yeah, I knew it was Predator. When do

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they say this? And you can hear the helicopter.

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It must be at the beginning. So, yeah, fair enough.

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Which one did I just press? How many have we

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done? We've done four. This will be number five,

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which is... Oh, they want to play mini golf,

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eh? Two can play at that game. or even four,

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depending on the number of ball colours available.

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Futurama. Futurama, yeah, yeah. Zap Brannigan.

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Zap Brannigan, that's it. Probably the best character

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in it. Oh, God, yeah. I like Bender as well,

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though. No, there's a lot of characters I like.

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Now, Futurama's one of these ones, it's gone

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on for too long, and it's been... New seasons

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have suddenly appeared, and it's just lost it.

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I haven't watched it in years. No, so... I stopped

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watching it after they kind of did the box set.

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But then we suddenly got those almost feature

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-length episodes. They did something like four

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or five of them. And they all kind of tie into,

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I think it's Bender's Game. They all basically

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revolve around something happening with Bender

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anyway. And they're okay, but they're not a mark

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on the originals. And then there's been a new

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season since. wasn't blown away with it. There's

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that horribly, horribly heartbreaking episode

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with the dog and I can't think of the dog's name.

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It's right on the tip of my tongue. Poochie.

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No, what's it? Worthington. Yeah, Count Withington.

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Yeah, keep saying names. That really helps people

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try and find names when it's on the tip of their

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fucking... Dog's Body Waggle Bum. Oh, it's called

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Jurassic Park Season 5... Jurassic Bark, sorry.

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Season 5, Episode 2, Seymour. And the dog, basically,

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he finds him petrified. and they put it in a

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machine and seymour comes back to life and then

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the end of the episode is literally just showing

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what happened to seymour and fry goes to deliver

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the pizza that ends up with him going to the

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future and seymour just sits out at the front

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of the store does never leaves and eventually

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just gets fossilized because he just lays down

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waiting for fry to come back it's heartbreaking

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oh it's sad but they do bring him back uh yes

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and i'm You know, I've got to rewatch it. It's

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one of the best episodes out there. Out of all

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of Futurama, it's one of the most powerful to

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brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Next one. Yo,

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Kate, where do you keep your casserole dishes?

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Why? The cat won't fit in the toaster. I've done

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this before. You've done ALF before as well,

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and I'm sure you've done Futurama before. Oh,

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maybe I have, sorry. No, that's ALF. I need to

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sit down and watch some of the original episodes

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for that, because I tried watching their film

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called Operation Out. Oh, it's bad. Operation

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Out is trash. It is atrociously bad. Absolute

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100 % cashing on the name. I used to watch the

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TV series. It used to be on a Saturday night

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and we'd get home from the shop with mum and

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dad, I think before gladiators even existed.

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It would be something we'd put on TV and we were

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allowed to watch kind of as a family. No, very,

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very fond memories of watching Alf at home. Whether

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or not it's decent or not. If you like Alf, friend

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of the show, Ben Baker, his own podcast. Alfsplaining.

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I think they've got a few other ones now that

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they do splaining of stuff. I'm sure I saw somewhere.

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I've listened to a few of those. They're funny

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guys. If anyone's heard Ben Baker on the variety

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show, they know what he's like. Oh, absolutely.

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Art attack! We have a winner. Yeah, me. I just

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got six. You did, but we have a... A legitimate

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winner who isn't part of the show. I'm legitimate.

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I don't know what you're doing. Are you claiming

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that I know the answers beforehand? Yeah, Gem

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tells you. Oh, she wouldn't have got those. I'd

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like her to try. Yeah, she wouldn't have got

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those. I've still got half of the wife ones due.

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Oh. It's got three and three left that I haven't

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done yet. They've probably got repeats in. Anyway,

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James. you can text me this morning all six easy

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peasy i've obviously made it too easy for everybody

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so next time i'll make it difficult you bastards

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thanks thanks well done james um well done jimmy

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boy yeah oh gosh at jimbo oh yes you never get

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this one do you i could see you have a blue sky's

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not been working for me today hasn't it no it's

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been working for me can you load your app Yeah,

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look now, it's telling me to sign in. Womp womp.

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At Jimbo8e6 .bsky .social. There you are. Thank

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you very much. Next. Right, no Star Trek Academy

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talk today. Yes, I've not had a chance to catch

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up on it, if I am honest. I finished it. Yes.

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So we will talk about it when you get there.

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But you do have... a star trek conversational

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piece back that's reminiscent of the old star

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you know what so quite often we used to go to

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pick on like a trek tech thing and just say well

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what if you did this i mean we pissed about with

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things like the the transporter um about saying

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how you could basically just beam all your enemies

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into a wall and that would be the end of it and

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removing people's clothes and all that sort of

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stuff i mean holodeck was another one yeah holodeck

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and who cleans up afterward and uh what sort

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of gloves do you get to deal with that sort of

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thing um but one that we never picked up on and

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i was just what was i was watching a star trek

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the other evening and then i don't even know

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what triggered it in my mind something just triggered

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it in my mind start thinking about it and i just

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started giggling to myself and i couldn't help

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giggle to myself because it's such a stupid picture

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in my head i had and it's like the tv shows are

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showing the universal translator completely incorrectly

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so the universal translator from what i always

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knew of it and nothing to do with brainwaves

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and as you you've researched and you've seen

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i've seen some of the articles that you've said

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does the same but from what i've seen i think

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in enterprise and in deep space nine at least

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there's an episode each where the alien comes

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on board and the universal translator is not

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working for whatever reason and they need to

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teach it so they're basically constantly saying

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oh you need to keep them talking and then slowly

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broken english starts and then it starts translating

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and part of me never really wondered well where

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are they hearing that from it makes sense after

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you said it's the comm badge yep And then I thought,

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but that doesn't make sense for Deep Space Nine.

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What if you haven't got a combat? So what if

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you're just a visitor? What if you're the alien

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race? It translates for Starfleet because they've

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got their combat, but the alien race that's just

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turned up on your doorstep, how is it translating

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it for them? So then you've got to start thinking,

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well, are there directional speakers everywhere

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that literally just pinpoint each person and

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fire the audio at them, which is kind of a technology

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we've got already. You've got beamable audio.

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I think... I'll tell you what it is. What I genuinely

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think what they would say now is that everyone

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has a chip in their brain. Ah, yes. And that's

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it. And that links to the computer system that

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they're in. You know, you'd have given it permissions

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to. Yeah, but what about every other alien race?

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That's fine for Starfleet. If you're going to

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be part of Starfleet, if you're going to be part

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of the United Federation of Planets. Then I think

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that that's when it, you know, maybe some people

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just don't have it and they don't. they just

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don't speak the language but then that would

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obviously break the episodes now no the thing

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that made me giggle obviously going too way too

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deep into this before it's a fucking tv show

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jesus um the bit that just made me laugh is how

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every star trek episode should actually be when

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there's an alien it should just look like a really

00:14:25.529 --> 00:14:29.250
badly dubbed film yeah So you've got, like, the

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alien turns up, their lips stop moving, but then

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you can just carry on hearing the English speech

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over the top, even though they're just stood

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there waiting, and you've still got the voice

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going on and on. As it turns out, three clicks

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in their alien language is actually two paragraphs

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of text. Yeah. If you think about it realistically,

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it would be a very noisy play, Deep Space Nine.

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Well, and then it got even stupider. It's like,

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okay, well, maybe they got round that. Maybe

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everyone gets hollow emitter lips. So their lips

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just keep on moving as if it's English, so you

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can lip -read them. And then it gets even stupider

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because then you're thinking, okay, how does

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it determine what an alien is and what a dog

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is? Oh, look, we've got a dog on the space station.

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Why can't we all understand the dog now? Well,

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it's interesting that they could never understand

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the Darmok stuff. But that is them understanding

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it, isn't it? That's it translated into English.

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Yeah, that's what I mean. It couldn't translate

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it properly to make the sentence make sense.

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But no, they do explain that. it's as english

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as it can be but the way the whole darmok thing

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is that is their speech that is how they're hearing

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it as well right they they are literally the

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story is how they communicate right so it isn't

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that they're talking in a language that doesn't

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make sense it's literally the basis of their

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language is them saying a story to describe what

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they are but could the universal translator not

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then translate that story into something that

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Picard could understand. I know in that episode

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particularly there is no universal translator.

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No, but it would have been particularly useful,

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wouldn't it? Look, there's a fucking dodgy invisible

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alien on this planet, mate. We've got to take

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it out together if we're going to be friends,

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okay? Yeah, no. Darmok and Galil, whatever. Oh,

00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.000
well, useful. Thanks, mate. Really useful. Oh,

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God, what were the things? They were hilarious.

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Darmok. Angelil Atanagra. Atanagra. Nice memory.

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Look at that. Is Miranda here? Yes. I've just

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remembered a terrible Star Trek quote, but I

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can't remember what we did yesterday. It just

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made me laugh. I thought you've got all these

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pets and suddenly they should be talking to you.

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It's like, excuse me, I need to go out for a

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shit. Okay, right. We better sort. In fact, how

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does that work on a star base? You've got a translator.

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No. You go for a shit and it translates your

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farts. I wish I hadn't eaten dairy yesterday.

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Oh my God, I'm going to drown. I'm going to drown.

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I'm free. Yeah, just the universal translation.

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The more you think about it, the more broken

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it gets. It's just so many things that are actually

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broken with that idea of technology. What is

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the most hard to believe technology in Star Trek?

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uh okay i think it's the universal translate

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because and hear me out on that i mean yeah transport

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is obviously we know is not literally physically

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not possible but you can believe it because they

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take the tech that they trek the trek don't they

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they do all the talking and you can just imagine

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okay something goes in there it gets decompiled

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and it's put over there we know it literally

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can't happen i don't see why it couldn't happen

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physics and science one day but anyway one day

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you never know okay um replicators we've already

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got the starting of that with 3d printers and

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3d printing meat this was they say um technology

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so advanced seem like magic or something there's

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some yes there's but the thing for me uh it's

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definitely the universal translate because if

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you think about it it wipes out all language

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You only need to speak one language because all

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the universal translator is going to speak to

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you in any way. And again, the point I sent you

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in the voice message, Q turns up on the bridge.

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Bonjour, Capitan. Mon ami. Okay, why have we

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just all heard that in French? He's literally

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speaking in French. Universal translator should

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have turned that into English. Now, right. You're

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saying that, I have a theory. He's speaking human.

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Now then. Ooh, okay. So you're going down the

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road. Do Klingons. are a race humans are a race

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french isn't the the the race of french is it

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you know a subset of the human race okay so say

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with klingons they might be the french klingons

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when a klingon speaking do they does that whole

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planet speak the one unified klingon language

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or no multiples so do they when they have it

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do they go Fucking, there's a froggy Klingon

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over here, you know, speaking Klingon French.

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Sorry to the zero French listeners we have. I've

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seen the stats. We have no listeners. I'm not

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sorry to the French. I'm sorry to the Klingons.

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No, but it still makes it the most pointless

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and redundant thing, doesn't it? Because ultimately,

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okay, you're saying it picks up changes between

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humans. But why couldn't it just translate every

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language then and just include that as well?

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Then you only need a unified language. And then

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you're starting to go into Nazism here, ladies

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and gents. Starfleet are then going around saying,

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yeah, no, you don't speak any language. You only

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need to speak English. Well, why? Because Universal

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Translator, mate. You're going to speak English

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for us. Dye your hair blonde and wear blue contacts.

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So I'm re -listening to a book series, Dungeon

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Call of Kral. We spoke about it. They have a

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Universal Translator in that. And the way it's

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explained in that is it is like a chip in their

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brain. And when the human speaks to the cat,

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all the cat hears is meows. So it's the same

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kind of thing. Yeah, but therefore it's working

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for everything. You can't say you have a universal

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translator and then choose who it's going to

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translate for. Every dog in Starfleet should

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be understood. But they've chosen not to. They've

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chosen to exclude animals from the universal

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translator, making them horrible to animals.

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I love the idea. Think of all those animals that

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could be able to tell their owner that I'm really

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poorly. I'm not in a good way here. No, all you're

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going to hear is woof, woof, woof. Don't worry,

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we've got the technology to translate it, but

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screw you. So somebody who can speak multiple

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languages, right? That's not me. Let's say there's

00:20:50.099 --> 00:20:52.440
somebody that can speak. Definitely not me. They

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can speak Klingon, they can speak Vulcan, they

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can speak English, you know, Earthling. Yeah.

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Because would they call it English? Yeah, how?

00:21:00.309 --> 00:21:03.890
Well, they call it Earthish. Oh. You know, who's

00:21:03.890 --> 00:21:06.230
to say that Mandarin isn't now the most used

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language on Earth at that point in time? True.

00:21:09.410 --> 00:21:13.349
Anyway, Earthish. Do you reckon they can choose

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what language the translator gives them? So one

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day they go, like, everyone's going to speak

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Earthish for me today. And the next day, oh,

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no, I want everyone speaking Klingon. There's

00:21:22.309 --> 00:21:26.170
Picard there going... You could have a great

00:21:26.170 --> 00:21:28.630
prank war with that, couldn't you? Morning, everyone.

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Why can I only hear Klingon from everyone? Who's

00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.220
been fucking around with my profile again? Yeah,

00:21:34.220 --> 00:21:38.160
he's been on my... Oh, hang on, hang on. Who's

00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.039
turned on parental control as well? I want to

00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:42.000
change it back to English. Yeah, I can't hear

00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.019
any swears. I don't know what my pin is anymore.

00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:49.319
I can't hear the pedos and roadblocks. Oh, God,

00:21:49.380 --> 00:21:54.000
nonce watch. Yeah, I think... What do I think

00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.359
the most outlandish one is? I think it's I can

00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:59.849
believe... there's a lot you can believe i can

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believe holodeck vr hard like vr i've i've been

00:22:04.049 --> 00:22:06.809
to trade shows and they've had holograms there

00:22:06.809 --> 00:22:11.029
okay it's had like trickery of glass and stuff

00:22:11.029 --> 00:22:16.130
but you know i can see it and i've used vr headsets

00:22:16.130 --> 00:22:18.970
are getting really small one day technology could

00:22:18.970 --> 00:22:22.799
be a bloody contact lens i can understand i can

00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.960
totally get that we have the walking floor that

00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:28.640
disney's recently created for immersive things

00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:31.400
where literally the floor is just these rolling

00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:34.160
balls and you can just walk across it and it

00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:38.019
kind of moves you around and and you yeah it

00:22:38.019 --> 00:22:41.029
and you use it within in conjunction with vr

00:22:41.029 --> 00:22:43.369
but then we've also got gloves that will give

00:22:43.369 --> 00:22:46.829
you tactile feedback now within vr as well we've

00:22:46.829 --> 00:22:51.690
got sex toys that work with vr i mean i'm less

00:22:51.690 --> 00:22:53.849
familiar with those but go on oh no i'm sure

00:22:53.849 --> 00:22:55.569
we've talked about this in probably the variety

00:22:55.569 --> 00:22:59.329
show there is a technology specifically sex toy

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technology and there is a name for it for sex

00:23:02.930 --> 00:23:06.450
toys controlled over the internet so didn't we

00:23:06.450 --> 00:23:08.130
discuss this and we were talking about whether

00:23:08.130 --> 00:23:12.099
it was gay Or did I have a private conversation

00:23:12.099 --> 00:23:12.839
with someone else? You might have had a private

00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:14.859
conversation. No, we had the whole conversation.

00:23:15.740 --> 00:23:18.339
We'll open that one up another time. No, we'll

00:23:18.339 --> 00:23:20.680
go to it now. This one was called Teledildonics.

00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:24.359
Oh, I love the name. It's a wonderful name, but

00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:28.019
Teledildonics is the technology of internet -controlled

00:23:28.019 --> 00:23:30.599
sex toys, i .e. you're away for work, so you

00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:32.039
turn on your phone, your wife says, oh, I'm in

00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:34.039
bed, I've got it strapped on, and you control

00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:38.539
it. Okay, so the thing was, it's a sex doll,

00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:41.339
right? Right. That can be controlled by somebody

00:23:41.339 --> 00:23:44.559
else. So you're having interactions with a sex

00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:47.220
doll. Sex dolls. So you're a heterosexual male.

00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:49.779
This isn't a homophobic conversation. No, it's

00:23:49.779 --> 00:23:51.359
not. This is just a conversation, right? So you're

00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:54.839
a heterosexual male having your relationships

00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:59.700
with a female -looking robot. Now, this robot

00:23:59.700 --> 00:24:01.259
can be controlled by somebody else. And like

00:24:01.259 --> 00:24:03.220
you go in a chat room and like that, you can

00:24:03.220 --> 00:24:06.299
link up, right? And they can control it. I hope

00:24:06.299 --> 00:24:08.950
they've got age control. I imagine so. Let's

00:24:08.950 --> 00:24:13.630
not get too into it. Just sideline that for recording.

00:24:14.049 --> 00:24:18.230
We can talk about that off air. Now, people can

00:24:18.230 --> 00:24:23.470
control the robot. Is it gay for that robot if

00:24:23.470 --> 00:24:27.789
that robot's being controlled by a man? I thought

00:24:27.789 --> 00:24:29.529
that might be where you're going. Because, yeah,

00:24:29.549 --> 00:24:32.869
I can imagine there's going to be companies that

00:24:32.869 --> 00:24:36.029
would offer it out. A subscription service. It's

00:24:36.029 --> 00:24:39.579
going to be... controlled by the most luscious

00:24:39.579 --> 00:24:41.519
and beautiful women in the world, when actually

00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:43.640
it's this balding fat bloke with a handful of

00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:46.160
lube in one and a joystick in the other, and

00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:47.759
off he's going, well, joystick in both hands,

00:24:47.779 --> 00:24:48.920
I guess. Well, he's working as well, he's at

00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:50.559
work. I don't think he's going to be allowed

00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:53.279
to do that. Oh, mate, these companies are dodgy,

00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.640
I'm thinking about. They're the ones that stick

00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:59.359
up in phone booths still. I like the idea of

00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:01.220
it being a subscription service, and it's like,

00:25:01.299 --> 00:25:04.759
you are seventh in the queue. yes you're in a

00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:08.779
queue waiting for your turn for the the call

00:25:08.779 --> 00:25:12.599
center guy to take control of your sex bar i'm

00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:14.299
more thinking it's end of the world time isn't

00:25:14.299 --> 00:25:17.400
it oh oh oh oh oh shit the internet's gone out

00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:21.299
oh yeah they just go either or it gets stuck

00:25:21.299 --> 00:25:25.099
oh okay i'm finished you can stop stroking now

00:25:25.099 --> 00:25:31.839
oh no lost connection lag lag It's not Counter

00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:33.980
-Strike, mate. Yeah, it starts skipping frames.

00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.180
It starts skipping frames and the hands go in

00:25:37.180 --> 00:25:43.799
the fucking place. Anyway, we're talking about

00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:54.259
Star Trek, our Universal Just Latest. So, what

00:25:54.259 --> 00:25:59.789
you been doing? I have been watching... Bits

00:25:59.789 --> 00:26:03.730
and pieces, actually. Let me see. So we talked

00:26:03.730 --> 00:26:06.569
about that me and Jem in the previous episode

00:26:06.569 --> 00:26:08.589
have started our own spinning wheel for films

00:26:08.589 --> 00:26:11.369
to watch. We've successfully watched one film,

00:26:11.509 --> 00:26:14.150
No Country for Old Men. Well, you have. Did you

00:26:14.150 --> 00:26:15.490
manage to finish it? No, I'm not finished yet.

00:26:15.750 --> 00:26:23.970
Where are you up to? Eddie Harrison, whatever

00:26:23.970 --> 00:26:25.869
his name is. Oh, Woody Harrison. Oh, so you're

00:26:25.869 --> 00:26:27.509
only about a third of the way in then. Woody

00:26:27.509 --> 00:26:30.009
Harrison just appeared, yeah. it started off

00:26:30.009 --> 00:26:32.009
really really good it started off as one of these

00:26:32.009 --> 00:26:35.289
films that um and i won't go too deep into it

00:26:35.289 --> 00:26:37.109
because obviously this sci -fi show and you don't

00:26:37.109 --> 00:26:38.630
want to be hearing about this ladies and gents

00:26:38.630 --> 00:26:41.650
but uh it starts off really really strong and

00:26:41.650 --> 00:26:44.089
i can i we started to see why people say oh this

00:26:44.089 --> 00:26:47.730
is an amazing film really really good and yeah

00:26:47.730 --> 00:26:49.589
we really enjoy it and although it felt like

00:26:49.589 --> 00:26:52.529
a bit of a drag it felt very slow we didn't want

00:26:52.529 --> 00:26:54.710
to look away it's one of those films that you

00:26:54.710 --> 00:26:58.150
kind of it's pulling me in even though i'm finding

00:26:58.150 --> 00:27:02.910
it slow i'm actually here for it yep and it starts

00:27:02.910 --> 00:27:05.549
to speed up a little bit again it's exciting

00:27:05.549 --> 00:27:08.609
and you're like oh yeah okay brilliant and then

00:27:08.609 --> 00:27:12.549
well do you want me to ruin it for you are you

00:27:12.549 --> 00:27:15.170
actually going to finish watching it yeah then

00:27:15.170 --> 00:27:17.049
i better not spoil it for you but then you get

00:27:17.049 --> 00:27:21.289
to the second half and then the final 30 minutes

00:27:21.289 --> 00:27:25.450
to 20 minutes absolutely ruined it for us we're

00:27:25.450 --> 00:27:28.210
like what in what was the point of this absolute

00:27:28.210 --> 00:27:31.230
this film that we were really enjoying up to

00:27:31.230 --> 00:27:36.430
this point what is the actual point what a and

00:27:36.430 --> 00:27:39.009
i kind of get where they were doing with it they

00:27:39.009 --> 00:27:41.250
were trying to point that no matter what you

00:27:41.250 --> 00:27:45.789
do these things happen and it's kind of like

00:27:45.789 --> 00:27:48.950
real life but fuck me after we literally you

00:27:48.950 --> 00:27:50.710
get this really good bit where it starts to get

00:27:50.710 --> 00:27:53.930
a bit action and you feel like yes the slow slog

00:27:53.930 --> 00:27:56.559
was worth it And then they just whip it all away

00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.720
from you in kind of one massive mood that just

00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:01.980
makes you think, oh, well, if that's actually

00:28:01.980 --> 00:28:04.500
genuine, what the fuck's the point of just watch

00:28:04.500 --> 00:28:06.339
this entire film for this happening? The thing

00:28:06.339 --> 00:28:08.940
is, right, Josh Brolin's character, he's a fucking

00:28:08.940 --> 00:28:12.079
moron. Because were I in the situation... Oh,

00:28:12.099 --> 00:28:13.880
fuck me. You'd empty the money out, have a look

00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:15.799
through it, straight in another bag. Because,

00:28:15.819 --> 00:28:18.660
yes, Josh Brolin in this film really looks like

00:28:18.660 --> 00:28:20.180
he should be walking around with a nice smart

00:28:20.180 --> 00:28:21.900
black suitcase. Exactly. I would have kept the

00:28:21.900 --> 00:28:24.059
bag. I probably would have gone straight to my

00:28:24.059 --> 00:28:27.700
car. Right, we're taking the bag. So he finds

00:28:27.700 --> 00:28:29.819
loads of money, everyone. Right, you see, he

00:28:29.819 --> 00:28:31.839
got the bag full of money. Oh my gosh, brilliant.

00:28:32.099 --> 00:28:34.380
I would have driven straight to the nearest place

00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:38.559
to get a new bag. Yeah. And I wouldn't have done

00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:40.180
anything there because I would have thought cameras.

00:28:40.819 --> 00:28:42.640
Because I would immediately be thinking it could

00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.440
be the exact kind of thing because of the kind

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.460
of stuff that I do. Exactly. I would have been

00:28:47.460 --> 00:28:49.940
thinking this could be getting tracked. So I

00:28:49.940 --> 00:28:52.420
would have. Got a bag or just like even maybe

00:28:52.420 --> 00:28:54.160
I would have had a bag or I just dumped the cash

00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:57.559
in my car and chucked the bag. Yep. And then

00:28:57.559 --> 00:28:59.839
gone. And I wouldn't have gone back to that bloke.

00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:02.500
He was willing to leave him there the first fucking

00:29:02.500 --> 00:29:04.200
time. Why on earth did he go back? When it's

00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.140
several hours later, he was obviously nearly

00:29:07.140 --> 00:29:09.799
dead when he found him. Yeah. So what the fuck

00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:13.160
the point was? And also in my head, okay, you've

00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:15.839
gone back. Fine. He's gone back. His car's now

00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:20.400
been sabotaged and he escapes again. Okay. First

00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:22.619
thing I would have done would have been straight

00:29:22.619 --> 00:29:24.539
to the police in the morning, not talking about

00:29:24.539 --> 00:29:27.819
the money. I said, look, I was out hunting. I

00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:31.819
shot a deer. I really, I went searching for it.

00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:33.819
Got to a certain point. Couldn't find where it

00:29:33.819 --> 00:29:36.079
had gone after I'd winged it. Went home, had

00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.720
food, drove back out here to see if I could find

00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:41.019
where it was and carry on the trail. I've come

00:29:41.019 --> 00:29:43.859
across this. What the fuck do you want me to

00:29:43.859 --> 00:29:46.019
do? Here's exactly the location where all the

00:29:46.019 --> 00:29:48.640
bodies are that I found. Oh my God. Oh my God.

00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:50.400
It's terrifying. and then leave the police to

00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.559
deal with it. They don't need to know about the

00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:54.680
money, and they've got no idea that he'd already

00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:56.319
been there the first time, and they were never

00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:58.200
going to know that he'd been there the first

00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:00.880
time and he'd taken the money. So get the police

00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.940
there straight away, get you and his wife into

00:30:03.940 --> 00:30:07.059
protective custody or whatever, and let them

00:30:07.059 --> 00:30:10.660
deal with it. But no, he's so thick. But he's

00:30:10.660 --> 00:30:12.339
already kind of deciding he's going to run away.

00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.880
So why not just dump the bag, keep the money

00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.319
in his car, just go back to his missus and go...

00:30:18.569 --> 00:30:20.609
I've found a shit ton of money. Let's fucking

00:30:20.609 --> 00:30:23.450
leave. Full stop. You just dump the money and

00:30:23.450 --> 00:30:27.190
you go. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Oh, just, yeah.

00:30:27.549 --> 00:30:30.309
Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Um, really

00:30:30.309 --> 00:30:32.890
enjoyed essay up to that last 20, 25 minutes

00:30:32.890 --> 00:30:35.529
of the film. Enjoyed it up to that point. Then

00:30:35.529 --> 00:30:38.309
the thing happens and it's like, oh no, I'm done.

00:30:38.470 --> 00:30:41.009
I'm literally spent. I've wasted my time. I'll

00:30:41.009 --> 00:30:43.170
try and find some time before the next. Right.

00:30:44.370 --> 00:30:46.650
It feels like a kick in the teeth, and I'm sure

00:30:46.650 --> 00:30:48.329
you will feel the same. Knowing how you feel

00:30:48.329 --> 00:30:50.609
about certain films, I think you're going to

00:30:50.609 --> 00:30:53.670
go, oh, what the fuck was the point of watching

00:30:53.670 --> 00:30:55.150
this thing? Have you spun what you're going to

00:30:55.150 --> 00:30:57.769
watch next? Yes, we have. We're going to be watching

00:30:57.769 --> 00:31:01.339
The Untouchables. I have seen that. Yeah, I think

00:31:01.339 --> 00:31:03.799
I've seen it a long time ago. I haven't seen

00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:05.940
it for years. So we're going to watch that next.

00:31:06.819 --> 00:31:09.599
I've then watched War Machine, which we didn't

00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:11.480
talk about the last episode, did we? No, we talked

00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:12.960
about it briefly on the Variety Show. Yeah, we

00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:14.380
talked about it on the Variety Show. Amazing.

00:31:14.740 --> 00:31:17.339
Absolutely brilliant. Was not expecting it to

00:31:17.339 --> 00:31:21.119
be as good as it was. It really had, weirdly,

00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.190
kind of this Predator feel about it. Absolutely,

00:31:24.349 --> 00:31:26.130
yeah. Completely different film to Predator.

00:31:26.230 --> 00:31:28.970
So don't, oh, it's a different film, Tom, blah,

00:31:29.049 --> 00:31:31.029
blah, blah. That's not what I'm saying. It has

00:31:31.029 --> 00:31:35.710
the same sort of feeling that the original Predator

00:31:35.710 --> 00:31:39.829
film gave me when I first saw it. Predator, small,

00:31:40.130 --> 00:31:46.309
one alien, but alien chasing people. Yes. War

00:31:46.309 --> 00:31:50.269
Machine, bigger scope, a giant alien robot, but

00:31:50.269 --> 00:31:53.369
still a band of people trying to escape. a one

00:31:53.369 --> 00:31:55.690
alien entity trying to kill them yeah it's the

00:31:55.690 --> 00:31:58.430
same premise as predator just the scale is different

00:31:58.430 --> 00:32:01.670
yeah and i mean netflix absolutely smashed it

00:32:01.670 --> 00:32:03.990
with it yeah um and you know i guess actually

00:32:03.990 --> 00:32:05.589
saying that the only slight difference between

00:32:05.589 --> 00:32:09.269
what you were just saying there is that the entire

00:32:09.269 --> 00:32:12.529
idea is this is a pre -invasion and then it turns

00:32:12.529 --> 00:32:14.769
out there is a full -scale invasion yeah war

00:32:14.769 --> 00:32:16.809
of the worlds it turns into doesn't it yeah basically

00:32:16.809 --> 00:32:19.450
uh what i really don't want them to do is do

00:32:19.450 --> 00:32:22.130
a sequel no leave it It just needs to be left

00:32:22.130 --> 00:32:24.170
alone. It'll be ruined. Yeah, you'll just go

00:32:24.170 --> 00:32:27.029
way too much into it, and it doesn't need to

00:32:27.029 --> 00:32:29.109
be. It needs to be left alone. This was absolutely

00:32:29.109 --> 00:32:33.329
perfect. It's a little one -off film. I feel

00:32:33.329 --> 00:32:36.930
that the alien robot could have been done slightly

00:32:36.930 --> 00:32:42.089
better, but actually it worked. Spoilers ahead.

00:32:42.430 --> 00:32:45.250
Skip a couple minutes forward if you don't want

00:32:45.250 --> 00:32:49.460
to know any more about War Machine. I also liked

00:32:49.460 --> 00:32:51.920
that the alien robot could take damage. Yes.

00:32:51.940 --> 00:32:53.880
It wasn't invincible. They could have really

00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.240
gone full whack by giving it a force field and

00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.779
just making it invincible. Because then when

00:33:00.779 --> 00:33:02.380
you see the big invasion, you would have thought,

00:33:02.460 --> 00:33:04.960
oh, they're fucked. But actually, now you know

00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.200
that it can just be destroyed. They give you

00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.940
some hope throughout the film that it's not going

00:33:09.940 --> 00:33:13.400
to totally end in tragedy. And I'd like to think,

00:33:13.420 --> 00:33:17.119
though, that they probably would have guessed

00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.579
the air vent. thing oh yeah without spoiling

00:33:20.579 --> 00:33:22.900
it too much they wouldn't need it out in richardson

00:33:22.900 --> 00:33:27.240
to fucking tell them fucking mic drop that's

00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.339
probably the one bit that's that's the kind of

00:33:29.339 --> 00:33:31.420
thing oh yeah okay yeah it kind of gets there

00:33:31.420 --> 00:33:33.680
and it's like everyone's it is almost like why

00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.079
is everyone that you drop what they were holding

00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.279
going oh my god we never thought of that but

00:33:39.740 --> 00:33:41.099
I might have to put a spoiler warning before

00:33:41.099 --> 00:33:42.559
that because that's a bit of a spoiler. Yeah,

00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.759
fair enough. But okay, so yeah, watch that. Really

00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:46.500
loved it. Absolutely recommend it. If you've

00:33:46.500 --> 00:33:48.480
got Netflix, go and watch it. Absolutely brilliant.

00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:52.519
I feel very sorry for his mate that ends up floating

00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.759
down the river and all sorts. Oh, that poor bloke.

00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:57.579
Fucking everything happened to him. And he was

00:33:57.579 --> 00:34:00.319
on a gurney the whole time. Then Kill Command

00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.160
is another film I watched. After watching War

00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:03.740
Machine, I fancied going back and watching this.

00:34:04.099 --> 00:34:06.039
I don't know what that is. It's a bit of an unknown

00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.360
film. I don't know if it was high budget or what

00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:13.199
it is. are set in current times but there's been

00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.059
way more advanced in robots so there's people

00:34:16.059 --> 00:34:18.920
with computers implanted in their brain that

00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:21.980
can kind of work with computers and uh they're

00:34:21.980 --> 00:34:24.719
sent i think it's alaska they end up in to do

00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.400
a training exercise versus these uh robots that

00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.480
have been programmed for the exercise but instead

00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:33.300
the robots decide that why should we treat this

00:34:33.300 --> 00:34:36.929
as an exercise they're obviously far less capable

00:34:36.929 --> 00:34:39.329
than we are so no we're going to take that and

00:34:39.329 --> 00:34:43.170
it's it's an interesting take on a film um no

00:34:43.170 --> 00:34:47.230
big names in it at all that i'm aware of um it's

00:34:47.230 --> 00:34:49.409
really worth watching really worth watching so

00:34:49.409 --> 00:34:52.630
that that was a good one um and then finally

00:34:52.630 --> 00:34:54.909
got to yeah first time i sat through the amazing

00:34:54.909 --> 00:34:57.489
spider -man which is the first time I've watched

00:34:57.489 --> 00:35:00.610
that Spider -Man with Andrew Garfield. Loved

00:35:00.610 --> 00:35:03.289
the original Tobey Maguire ones, maybe not three,

00:35:03.389 --> 00:35:06.010
but one and two definitely enjoyed. I enjoyed

00:35:06.010 --> 00:35:08.030
the Tom Holland ones, even though they slowly

00:35:08.030 --> 00:35:11.010
became more and more Marvelized until the final

00:35:11.010 --> 00:35:13.090
one that they did where all three Spider -Men

00:35:13.090 --> 00:35:16.730
turn up because that was a load of fun. So Marvel

00:35:16.730 --> 00:35:19.090
remembered that we're just meant to be fun, not

00:35:19.090 --> 00:35:22.309
following on from a stupid story. Lots of fun

00:35:22.309 --> 00:35:23.969
with that. The Amazing Spider -Man, on the other

00:35:23.969 --> 00:35:27.429
hand, brilliant. So good. Have you seen Enter

00:35:27.429 --> 00:35:30.250
the Spider -Verse? Yes. Me and Kay watched it.

00:35:30.269 --> 00:35:33.630
Really enjoyed those. But no, I'm just really

00:35:33.630 --> 00:35:35.849
blown away that Andrew Garfield does such a good

00:35:35.849 --> 00:35:38.710
role. He plays a very scatty version of Peter

00:35:38.710 --> 00:35:43.070
Parker. A bit odd, but it worked. It worked really

00:35:43.070 --> 00:35:46.530
well. I was really impressed with it. I'm looking

00:35:46.530 --> 00:35:48.530
forward to watching the second one of that. And

00:35:48.530 --> 00:35:51.789
then that's it. That's everything I've watched.

00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:57.739
Not been so much this past couple of weeks. What

00:35:57.739 --> 00:36:04.559
have you been watching then, darling? Other than

00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:06.639
the cat's arsehole. Other than the cat's arsehole

00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:09.829
it's here, yeah. So yeah, War Machine. finished

00:36:09.829 --> 00:36:11.489
Star Trek Academy we just started the series

00:36:11.489 --> 00:36:14.730
two of One Piece on Netflix oh yeah my TikTok

00:36:14.730 --> 00:36:17.530
is literally just full of non -stop it's funny

00:36:17.530 --> 00:36:19.550
how you get these things I don't get anything

00:36:19.550 --> 00:36:22.530
and I actually like watch it and I just I've

00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:24.849
just watched it and I just cannot stand the style

00:36:24.849 --> 00:36:26.829
they've done I just look at it and I just for

00:36:26.829 --> 00:36:29.070
me it just doesn't work in my brain something

00:36:29.070 --> 00:36:31.190
just doesn't click I've never read the manga

00:36:31.190 --> 00:36:34.420
I've never watched the anime So for me, this

00:36:34.420 --> 00:36:37.800
is all that I know of it. And you can see the

00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:43.139
character designs are clearly based off of a

00:36:43.139 --> 00:36:45.840
manga cartoon. And I think they've done a really

00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:48.159
good job about it, but I can see why you wouldn't

00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.579
like it. There's a few characters in season two,

00:36:50.619 --> 00:36:52.780
I'm just like, oh, you look a bit funny. But

00:36:52.780 --> 00:36:57.739
yeah, I really liked season one. We've watched

00:36:57.739 --> 00:37:00.119
two episodes of season two. I'm liking it again.

00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:01.980
I think we're going to watch the whole thing

00:37:01.980 --> 00:37:04.829
and I'll enjoy it. I did have to, we started

00:37:04.829 --> 00:37:07.090
watching episode one and I was like, there's

00:37:07.090 --> 00:37:09.710
no recap. How could we possibly remember any

00:37:09.710 --> 00:37:11.809
of this? And then I went out and there was actually

00:37:11.809 --> 00:37:13.730
a little recap thing and in amongst the trailers

00:37:13.730 --> 00:37:17.329
on Netflix, they had a special recap bit. Rather

00:37:17.329 --> 00:37:18.550
than putting it at the start of the episode,

00:37:18.590 --> 00:37:19.869
which they've done previously, this was like

00:37:19.869 --> 00:37:22.130
hidden away. So I was like, oh, thank God for

00:37:22.130 --> 00:37:23.550
that. Else I would have found a YouTube video

00:37:23.550 --> 00:37:25.510
to tell me. It's funny enough, me and Gemma are

00:37:25.510 --> 00:37:26.929
kind of one of the people that actually don't

00:37:26.929 --> 00:37:28.929
like it when they put those recaps in the episodes

00:37:28.929 --> 00:37:33.340
because so often they'll say. Last time on...

00:37:33.340 --> 00:37:35.400
No, no, not the last episode. I want it for last

00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.960
series. Yeah, last series, sorry. But yeah, no,

00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.300
when they do it on the per episode, it annoys

00:37:41.300 --> 00:37:43.320
me because you get this whole bit at the beginning

00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:45.619
of the show on the last episode. It's like, okay,

00:37:45.619 --> 00:37:48.400
fine, but we're binge watching it. We don't need

00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.559
this. But so often they then put the next episode

00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.099
and give away most of the episode in like this

00:37:54.099 --> 00:37:56.599
30 second clip. So why have you done that? Yeah.

00:37:57.460 --> 00:37:59.460
We've said that about something before. They

00:37:59.460 --> 00:38:02.510
literally spoil the whole thing. If you knew

00:38:02.510 --> 00:38:03.909
it... Oh, God, I wish I could remember what it

00:38:03.909 --> 00:38:06.030
was. We've literally spoke about this and it

00:38:06.030 --> 00:38:07.869
was like... Yeah, I can't remember what it was.

00:38:07.869 --> 00:38:10.510
It was told of you the entire fucking plot line

00:38:10.510 --> 00:38:12.170
of the next episode. Yeah, it wasn't Stranger

00:38:12.170 --> 00:38:15.449
Things, was it? No, I can't remember now anyway.

00:38:17.150 --> 00:38:20.369
And, yeah, War Machine, we spoke about that already.

00:38:20.889 --> 00:38:23.789
Dracula, A Love Story. Oh, you said yes. Yeah,

00:38:23.849 --> 00:38:27.809
so that's just another take on the Dracula story.

00:38:28.389 --> 00:38:33.090
When did it come out? last year 2025 it's got

00:38:33.090 --> 00:38:34.949
a good cast it's got that so okay so it's got

00:38:34.949 --> 00:38:37.230
christopher waltz in it he's brilliant because

00:38:37.230 --> 00:38:38.730
it seems to be a bit of a trend at the moment

00:38:38.730 --> 00:38:40.650
doesn't it looking at things like bram stoker

00:38:40.650 --> 00:38:42.710
and so on because you've obviously had frankenstein

00:38:42.710 --> 00:38:45.829
this year a great film and yeah they seem to

00:38:45.829 --> 00:38:48.289
be putting a lot of um a lot of effort into it

00:38:48.289 --> 00:38:51.670
well again that as i said with frankenstein it

00:38:51.670 --> 00:38:57.110
makes you feel sorry and like the monster more

00:38:57.110 --> 00:39:01.630
than the man But in this, you kind of do feel

00:39:01.630 --> 00:39:05.110
sorry for Vlad in a lot of ways. He just loved

00:39:05.110 --> 00:39:08.969
this woman so much, and she loved him. And he

00:39:08.969 --> 00:39:11.829
was following the church, doing everything the

00:39:11.829 --> 00:39:14.289
church said, and it's because of what the church

00:39:14.289 --> 00:39:20.579
made him do was why his wife got killed. So you

00:39:20.579 --> 00:39:22.699
can completely see why in his grief he would

00:39:22.699 --> 00:39:25.139
blame the church. Doesn't mean he should go and

00:39:25.139 --> 00:39:28.219
murder the bishop. But, you know, you can see,

00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.119
you can completely see. And then his whole existence

00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:36.480
for the next 400 years is waiting for her reincarnation.

00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:42.199
Crikey. It's a proper love story. And he isn't

00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:46.639
pictured as this, he is a blood sucking vampire,

00:39:46.699 --> 00:39:50.460
but he's not. he's not really portrayed as what

00:39:50.460 --> 00:39:54.039
you would think going around sucking on everyone's

00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.340
blood he doesn't do it for quite a long time

00:39:56.340 --> 00:40:01.500
and then he snaps and kind of does it so and

00:40:01.500 --> 00:40:07.099
turns a load of people to become his like searchers

00:40:07.099 --> 00:40:09.059
across the globe and then he grow up globe and

00:40:09.059 --> 00:40:13.079
he goes home and waits right okay that's when

00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.380
you kind of see him all really old and gross

00:40:15.380 --> 00:40:18.460
because he's just not done he's just waiting

00:40:18.460 --> 00:40:22.639
to find out yeah when mina comes back and obviously

00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:24.880
she does well the reincarnation of a dozen then

00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:28.039
that's the story um anyone there's no spoilers

00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:29.739
if anyone's so familiar with the story of dracula

00:40:29.739 --> 00:40:32.599
then you fucking know yeah that's fair enough

00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.679
uh yeah it's really it's really really good i

00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:39.619
did enjoy it again it's not a thing there's this

00:40:39.619 --> 00:40:42.079
thing i know that i say all the time that i don't

00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:46.000
care about the reviews but at the same time i

00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.579
do like good films to be to be well received

00:40:49.579 --> 00:40:51.980
well received and see this again it's a 6 .29

00:40:51.980 --> 00:40:55.139
db it's better than a 6 .2 yeah it is better

00:40:55.139 --> 00:40:58.719
than that i keep watching these sixes and i'm

00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.699
thinking why are you getting a six like there's

00:41:01.699 --> 00:41:04.360
a lot there's a lot of games at the moment that

00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.349
are getting um really high critic reviews and

00:41:08.349 --> 00:41:12.170
massively no low user scores and also swapping

00:41:12.170 --> 00:41:14.869
the other way around low critic reviews and high

00:41:14.869 --> 00:41:17.210
user scores there's and i think it's the same

00:41:17.210 --> 00:41:19.929
with films there's a disconnect between what

00:41:19.929 --> 00:41:22.969
the general public who like to consume media

00:41:22.969 --> 00:41:25.889
yeah compared to what the critics are saying

00:41:25.889 --> 00:41:29.909
and yeah i have theories but i don't think i

00:41:29.909 --> 00:41:32.750
should be putting them on i would suggest that

00:41:32.750 --> 00:41:36.849
it's also possibly a generational thing So, when

00:41:36.849 --> 00:41:39.349
was the last time you went onto IMDB, rated,

00:41:39.409 --> 00:41:41.329
and wrote a review about something? I've never

00:41:41.329 --> 00:41:45.150
done it. Precisely. I haven't. And it's, I don't

00:41:45.150 --> 00:41:47.289
know, and this could be me talking my arsehole,

00:41:47.369 --> 00:41:49.170
ladies and gents, and I fully appreciate that.

00:41:49.210 --> 00:41:51.789
Feel free to comment. We know it. The Universal

00:41:51.789 --> 00:41:53.989
Translator's on, so we won't hear the fart noise.

00:41:53.989 --> 00:41:56.670
Ah, well, fair enough. So, the point I'm going

00:41:56.670 --> 00:42:00.960
to make is, our generation to an extent, and

00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.019
maybe the generation before were the generation

00:42:04.019 --> 00:42:06.900
that grew up and started doing things like reviews

00:42:06.900 --> 00:42:09.099
for restaurants and things like that and when

00:42:09.099 --> 00:42:11.980
a review when a restaurant treated you badly

00:42:11.980 --> 00:42:17.400
or a business treated you badly we weren't anywhere

00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:22.039
kind of away from going well to go online and

00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.219
leave a bad review for them and then you'd end

00:42:25.219 --> 00:42:27.119
up with things like review bombs and people going

00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.239
oh well yeah this happens i think the current

00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.840
generation being so much more social media so

00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:36.519
much more online so much more this is how we

00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:41.000
learn about things i think the reason imdb scores

00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:43.099
are going down is because more and more of that

00:42:43.099 --> 00:42:46.219
generation are reviewing it and the things that

00:42:46.219 --> 00:42:49.780
we enjoy aren't necessarily aimed at that generation

00:42:49.780 --> 00:42:54.340
of people so yes they they see something that

00:42:54.340 --> 00:42:57.760
gets a really good score so let's say Let's say

00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.739
Franken, what did you say? Dracula Love Story.

00:43:01.019 --> 00:43:03.300
Dracula Love Story, yeah. What did you say its

00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:05.519
score was? 6 .2. So it might have started off

00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:08.719
as a good solid nine with the typical reviewers

00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:12.159
who've watched it, put all the right things down.

00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:14.480
Then people have come along and gone, oh, well,

00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:18.000
that's worth watching, watched it, and then immediately

00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:19.480
gone, oh, I don't understand why it's been rated

00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:21.460
nine. Now, rather than just leaving it alone,

00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.820
they've done what our generation have done to

00:43:23.820 --> 00:43:25.739
these restaurants and things like that by saying,

00:43:26.409 --> 00:43:28.969
It was reviewed highly. I can't understand why.

00:43:29.130 --> 00:43:30.690
And they've then gone and put their reviews on

00:43:30.690 --> 00:43:32.650
and it brings the score down. I think it's just

00:43:32.650 --> 00:43:36.849
the accessibility of it now means that the IMDb

00:43:36.849 --> 00:43:39.849
score can't necessarily be trusted anymore. Yeah.

00:43:40.010 --> 00:43:42.710
I think too many people have free reign just

00:43:42.710 --> 00:43:44.429
to jump on there and put whatever they want.

00:43:44.469 --> 00:43:46.170
Like Wikipedia, you can put anything you want

00:43:46.170 --> 00:43:49.250
on there. It drives the score down no matter

00:43:49.250 --> 00:43:51.389
what, whether they've written something coherent

00:43:51.389 --> 00:43:55.340
and something well thought out or not. And then

00:43:55.340 --> 00:43:57.400
you, obviously, then you get the whole load of

00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:59.380
people that go on there that haven't even seen

00:43:59.380 --> 00:44:01.340
it, but have decided to join in the bandwagon.

00:44:01.780 --> 00:44:04.360
Starfleet Academy guarantee you half of their

00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:06.159
reviews are people that have never even watched

00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:10.300
more than 10 minutes. I bet. Yeah. And it destroys

00:44:10.300 --> 00:44:14.519
the scoring system. They need something. You

00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.300
need something better, but how can you apply

00:44:17.300 --> 00:44:20.360
it? Apply to be a proper reviewer with IMDB,

00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.199
but prove that you're only going to rate things

00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.099
fairly. there's just no way you can guarantee

00:44:25.099 --> 00:44:29.639
that is there yeah i just have to continue looking

00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:32.099
at it and go oh i don't agree well that that's

00:44:32.099 --> 00:44:33.840
the point and we've always said that about all

00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.000
the films we watch haven't we that as much as

00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.519
we'd like to see things well reviewed you can

00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.139
only enjoy something if you go and see it for

00:44:41.139 --> 00:44:43.139
yourself exactly yeah just because it's got a

00:44:43.139 --> 00:44:45.260
review does not mean that is for you that means

00:44:45.260 --> 00:44:47.000
that's the review for the person that's reviewed

00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.639
it that's not the review for you i tend to look

00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.269
at the review after the fact Exactly. I kind

00:44:52.269 --> 00:44:53.630
of watch and go, I really like that. I wonder

00:44:53.630 --> 00:44:54.989
what other people thought. And then I go, oh,

00:44:55.190 --> 00:45:00.170
I must be like in the minority here. So that's

00:45:00.170 --> 00:45:02.030
programs. Games, I haven't really played very

00:45:02.030 --> 00:45:04.070
much, if anything. I did a little bit of Spider

00:45:04.070 --> 00:45:07.070
-Man 2 to kind of get into a position where T

00:45:07.070 --> 00:45:11.670
can have some more things to do. Other than that,

00:45:11.710 --> 00:45:14.539
he's been playing stuff. Goat game. Like you

00:45:14.539 --> 00:45:18.619
guys. He's been wanting to play Pokemon. He saw

00:45:18.619 --> 00:45:22.219
Uncle Dan playing Pokemon X or whatever the newest

00:45:22.219 --> 00:45:25.599
one is on the Switch. Oh, I've got no idea. I'm

00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:27.599
not sure which one it is. I'm still Pokemon Blue

00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.239
and Red. I don't have that one. So he was playing

00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:33.920
Let's Go Pikachu, which is a really good Pokemon

00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:37.219
game. So it's the original Red and Blue, but

00:45:37.219 --> 00:45:41.699
it's got the mechanics of Pokemon Go. Right.

00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:44.860
So you see this here? oh yes this is the control

00:45:44.860 --> 00:45:48.380
for it this i'm showing him a pokeball so you

00:45:48.380 --> 00:45:50.679
walk around with that you can click it or there's

00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.420
a button there you want to catch pokemon you

00:45:52.420 --> 00:45:55.420
throw like this oh wow that's it but also inside

00:45:55.420 --> 00:45:58.360
people it's not been working today there's an

00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:02.750
eevee in here so if i oh it's not doing it You

00:46:02.750 --> 00:46:05.389
shake it and it would go like the Eevee's noise

00:46:05.389 --> 00:46:08.150
in here. And it levels up inside the ball. And

00:46:08.150 --> 00:46:10.150
it's a step counter. So you're meant to go out

00:46:10.150 --> 00:46:12.090
with it. It will count the steps, experience

00:46:12.090 --> 00:46:14.670
for the Pokemon, put it back in the game. It

00:46:14.670 --> 00:46:16.969
comes out and then your Eevee's been leveling

00:46:16.969 --> 00:46:18.510
up because you've taken it with you and it will

00:46:18.510 --> 00:46:20.429
love you and stuff. If you put Pikachu in here,

00:46:20.449 --> 00:46:23.030
it'll actually say Pika Pika. That is a very

00:46:23.030 --> 00:46:26.070
cool idea. It comes with Mew. So the only way

00:46:26.070 --> 00:46:29.510
you can get Mew. is by buying this it comes with

00:46:29.510 --> 00:46:32.429
you so but that's the game controller as well

00:46:32.429 --> 00:46:33.949
then this is the game that you walk around as

00:46:33.949 --> 00:46:36.769
a joystick oh that's so the cats here attacking

00:46:36.769 --> 00:46:39.769
the fucking and that's on switch let go of it

00:46:39.769 --> 00:46:44.250
yeah that is awesome i love that idea and you

00:46:44.250 --> 00:46:45.869
can't i'll show you off there but over there

00:46:45.869 --> 00:46:48.250
there's a stand for it and it's a pokey center

00:46:48.250 --> 00:46:50.929
so when you place it in to charge it goes boom

00:46:50.929 --> 00:46:53.730
boom boom boom boom which is the pokemon focus

00:46:53.730 --> 00:46:57.659
very cool That's just the charging thing. That

00:46:57.659 --> 00:47:00.219
would come off, yeah. That's really cool. I love

00:47:00.219 --> 00:47:02.519
the idea of that. It's a really good idea. And

00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.039
it means he gets to walk around with a very good

00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.579
looking Pokemon game. Nicer than any of the other

00:47:07.579 --> 00:47:09.559
Pokemon games. Yeah. Because they changed the

00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:12.179
style more cartoony. How good is he actually

00:47:12.179 --> 00:47:15.340
doing battles and things? So where I let him

00:47:15.340 --> 00:47:17.780
run around, there was no battles to do. Yeah.

00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.219
So you can't battle world Pokemon. That's the

00:47:20.219 --> 00:47:24.889
difference. So it's Pokemon Go. It's literally

00:47:24.889 --> 00:47:26.929
just going and catching. So the Pokemon are walking

00:47:26.929 --> 00:47:29.469
around, as you would always want it to be, how

00:47:29.469 --> 00:47:32.989
it should always be, and you catch them, and

00:47:32.989 --> 00:47:36.329
then you do do battles, but they're trainer battles.

00:47:36.610 --> 00:47:38.090
And it's all the trainers that are in the right

00:47:38.090 --> 00:47:41.210
position. It is red and blue. It is red and blue.

00:47:41.289 --> 00:47:43.730
But the wild Pokemon are now captured like Pokemon

00:47:43.730 --> 00:47:45.809
Go. I'm wondering what T would make of this then.

00:47:45.929 --> 00:47:47.389
Oh, when Rothair, I'll show you the game. It's

00:47:47.389 --> 00:47:50.349
brilliant. I like the sound of that. Yes, he's

00:47:50.349 --> 00:47:52.699
doing that, yeah. Well, I just like the fact

00:47:52.699 --> 00:47:55.679
that it's a functional controller. Yeah. That's

00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:57.539
what I really like about it because there's no

00:47:57.539 --> 00:48:00.239
hand size issues with that. A child could easily

00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:03.099
do that. They could work it out. And the fact

00:48:03.099 --> 00:48:04.920
that it's got the throwing mechanic in there

00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.940
as well just adds that little bit. I love that.

00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:11.039
Clicking the stick in is A. Button on the top

00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:13.190
is B. That is awesome. I don't need any more.

00:48:13.210 --> 00:48:14.530
If you have to do other buttons, you just go

00:48:14.530 --> 00:48:17.110
to the actual controller or your other thing.

00:48:17.130 --> 00:48:19.969
If you need to go to options, for example, you've

00:48:19.969 --> 00:48:21.530
got to press Y. Well, there's not a Y on there.

00:48:21.570 --> 00:48:24.829
You've got to press Y on the control. But for

00:48:24.829 --> 00:48:27.190
a kid playing and you're just watching. And you

00:48:27.190 --> 00:48:28.750
just want them to walk around and catch some

00:48:28.750 --> 00:48:31.909
things. Brilliant. Yeah. All the battles can

00:48:31.909 --> 00:48:33.949
be done with just that controller. As I said,

00:48:33.989 --> 00:48:36.710
it's only if you want to move a Pokemon into

00:48:36.710 --> 00:48:38.349
there, you've got to have the other buttons.

00:48:38.650 --> 00:48:42.480
Yeah. If you want to... You go into the settings

00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.480
of the game. You've got to use it because you

00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:46.980
have to press Y. As I'm saying, there's no Y

00:48:46.980 --> 00:48:49.760
on that. Yeah, it's great. I've played most of

00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:51.440
the game with that controller. It's really nicely

00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.639
made as well. It's got a lovely tactile feeling

00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.119
to it. Yeah. I mean, I've had that for a few

00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.900
years now. It's still doing all right. I will

00:48:59.900 --> 00:49:03.659
have to see if I can stop it. She's after the

00:49:03.659 --> 00:49:06.699
two. I'm going to have to see if I can. find

00:49:06.699 --> 00:49:08.500
a version of that yeah she's after i'll show

00:49:08.500 --> 00:49:10.559
you because it's got let's go pikachu let's go

00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:13.000
eevee and whichever one you choose is the one

00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.980
that you start with yeah and they walk around

00:49:15.980 --> 00:49:17.599
with you so pikachu and eevee they sit on your

00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:20.530
shoulder no and then you can choose a Pokemon

00:49:20.530 --> 00:49:22.630
to walk around with you. So if you've got Charizard,

00:49:22.849 --> 00:49:24.530
you sit on his back and fly around with him.

00:49:24.829 --> 00:49:28.289
So he was like choosing the different ones. My

00:49:28.289 --> 00:49:30.590
favorite's Gengar, so he made me get Gengar out

00:49:30.590 --> 00:49:32.869
and Gengar walks behind you and stuff. And then

00:49:32.869 --> 00:49:34.909
you can play with Pikachu so you can stroke him

00:49:34.909 --> 00:49:37.449
and feed him and stuff. So T was going nuts for

00:49:37.449 --> 00:49:38.949
that because Pikachu's his favorite Pokemon.

00:49:39.289 --> 00:49:41.349
Awesome. Dress him up. He's got like a black

00:49:41.349 --> 00:49:43.630
cap on. Oh, I'm definitely going to have a look

00:49:43.630 --> 00:49:45.989
at that. I think your T would really enjoy it.

00:49:46.429 --> 00:49:48.070
I'll show you before you go. I'll let you have

00:49:48.070 --> 00:49:52.420
a quick look at it. Nice. I guess we should probably

00:49:52.420 --> 00:50:01.559
talk about the main idea. Yeah, District 9. Accessing

00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:06.639
library computer data. District 9, 2009, I want

00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:09.840
to say. It was 2009, and the blurb is, in a future

00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:12.380
Earth in which aliens are isolated in a remote

00:50:12.380 --> 00:50:15.659
ghetto, a government agent finds himself banished

00:50:15.659 --> 00:50:20.070
there. When did you first see this? I think it's

00:50:20.070 --> 00:50:21.289
the best question to start with. I got it on

00:50:21.289 --> 00:50:23.250
Blu -ray. Is that the first time you ever saw

00:50:23.250 --> 00:50:24.829
it? Yeah, I waited for it to come out on Blu

00:50:24.829 --> 00:50:25.849
-ray and I got it on Blu -ray. I don't think

00:50:25.849 --> 00:50:27.909
I went to cinema for it. And that's how I watched

00:50:27.909 --> 00:50:30.429
it yesterday, actually. Oh, fair. Well, I saw

00:50:30.429 --> 00:50:33.670
it in the cinema when it first came out. And

00:50:33.670 --> 00:50:35.889
I absolutely adored it in the cinema. I then

00:50:35.889 --> 00:50:39.289
bought it on DVD. I probably have only ever watched

00:50:39.289 --> 00:50:42.530
it once on DVD since. And this was the first

00:50:42.530 --> 00:50:45.760
time. watching it since then so i would happily

00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.159
say i've seen it probably three times 2009 probably

00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:53.219
2010 whenever the dvd came out and then 2026

00:50:53.219 --> 00:50:56.480
and i can't believe how much my opinion has changed

00:50:56.480 --> 00:51:01.000
since remembering watching it in 2009 versus

00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:07.159
what i think of it now um complete almost change

00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:09.670
about how i feel about the film which I thought

00:51:09.670 --> 00:51:12.389
was a really, really strange kind of thing to

00:51:12.389 --> 00:51:14.909
happen. I'm guessing you liked it. Now you don't.

00:51:15.429 --> 00:51:19.230
Saying I don't like it is a strong, strong thing

00:51:19.230 --> 00:51:26.050
to say. But yeah, to an extent, I walked out

00:51:26.050 --> 00:51:28.070
of the cinema loving it, thinking this is amazing.

00:51:28.289 --> 00:51:30.190
They're going to do a sequel for this. I can't

00:51:30.190 --> 00:51:33.409
wait. What a bloody brilliant idea this was.

00:51:33.829 --> 00:51:38.309
But then having watched it this week. I've come

00:51:38.309 --> 00:51:43.030
away going, Jesus fucking Christ. Why did I like

00:51:43.030 --> 00:51:46.469
this so much? And there's just so much to kind

00:51:46.469 --> 00:51:49.369
of decompile. First of all, let's dig into it.

00:51:49.429 --> 00:51:52.789
First of all, it was directed and written by

00:51:52.789 --> 00:51:56.110
Neil Blomkamp. Is that the pronunciation? Yeah,

00:51:56.170 --> 00:52:00.130
he also went on to do the Matt Damon one that

00:52:00.130 --> 00:52:02.269
we like. Elysium, yeah. And then there's another

00:52:02.269 --> 00:52:04.809
one. Chappie. And Chappie, yeah. So yeah, Neil

00:52:04.809 --> 00:52:08.960
Blomkamp. Peter Jackson. Peter Jackson produced

00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.539
it, yeah. And I would suggest Peter Jackson probably

00:52:12.539 --> 00:52:15.139
had quite a lot to say about the alien design.

00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:18.039
Not that I know that, feel free, but it feels

00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.719
very much like some of the designs that he did

00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.420
for things like Lord of the Rings. Yeah. There

00:52:23.420 --> 00:52:25.780
feels very much kind of a Jackson thing in there.

00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:32.599
It comes in an hour and 52 minutes. But the thing

00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:35.599
that I think it probably stands out most for...

00:52:36.030 --> 00:52:39.789
Oh, so 7 .9 on IMDb. It's always been rated as

00:52:39.789 --> 00:52:47.550
a very highly thought of sci -fi film. What was

00:52:47.550 --> 00:52:50.590
I saying? Yeah, hour and 52. But what's strange

00:52:50.590 --> 00:52:54.409
about it is how it's very much the first half

00:52:54.409 --> 00:52:58.369
is a particular style. The second half is completely

00:52:58.369 --> 00:53:01.920
different. It changes, yeah. two completely different

00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:05.500
styles of film in a single film. It's a documentary

00:53:05.500 --> 00:53:09.679
for the whole, for the first half and kind of

00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.380
the end. Yeah, the last. But there's a big massive

00:53:12.380 --> 00:53:15.139
section as well. Where it completely changes

00:53:15.139 --> 00:53:17.039
up. It becomes a Hollywood action film. Yeah,

00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:19.980
where it's suddenly not that at all. Which is

00:53:19.980 --> 00:53:23.940
odd. It is odd. I think that, I would have liked

00:53:23.940 --> 00:53:26.900
to have kept that all the way through. But I

00:53:26.900 --> 00:53:31.530
understand that it's... I feel like what it actually

00:53:31.530 --> 00:53:34.349
is, it's almost like a found footage tape thing.

00:53:34.449 --> 00:53:38.869
So they're doing a documentary after his death,

00:53:39.070 --> 00:53:42.730
after Vickers Vandermeer's death. This is like

00:53:42.730 --> 00:53:46.409
a panorama kind of thing. But they're splicing

00:53:46.409 --> 00:53:50.789
in for the viewer, us watching the film, what

00:53:50.789 --> 00:53:53.670
he was doing at the point, what he was actually

00:53:53.670 --> 00:53:55.670
doing for these people who are being interviewed.

00:53:56.219 --> 00:53:58.619
Yeah, correct. That's how the film is portrayed

00:53:58.619 --> 00:54:01.179
to you. BBC World Service has come along and

00:54:01.179 --> 00:54:03.440
they're now broadcasting the full story of what's

00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:07.860
happened at District 9. Yeah. Okay. Do you want

00:54:07.860 --> 00:54:10.420
to explain what the whole film premise is? So,

00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:14.780
yeah. So, an alien ship comes down to Earth.

00:54:14.940 --> 00:54:21.980
It happens to be over Johannesburg. 87 i want

00:54:21.980 --> 00:54:25.139
to say is it that they say it's mid 80s anyway

00:54:25.139 --> 00:54:28.280
and nothing happens but so eventually the the

00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:31.019
the go up the government goes up and gets inside

00:54:31.019 --> 00:54:33.579
and they just find all of the aliens in there

00:54:33.579 --> 00:54:35.920
not being able to because the ship's kind of

00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:38.139
broken not doing anything all in just poverty

00:54:38.139 --> 00:54:41.619
and just you know in their own shit essentially

00:54:41.619 --> 00:54:44.880
yeah so they get them all off put them down and

00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:48.210
they put them into like a slum And the film basically

00:54:48.210 --> 00:54:50.969
is it's been 20 years that they've been in that

00:54:50.969 --> 00:54:54.010
slum and now they've basically made a concentration

00:54:54.010 --> 00:54:58.170
camp. Yes, District 10. District 10. So they're

00:54:58.170 --> 00:54:59.630
trying to move them all there. So they've got

00:54:59.630 --> 00:55:01.250
like eviction notices. They're trying to do it

00:55:01.250 --> 00:55:04.590
all legally like it really fucking matters. And

00:55:04.590 --> 00:55:07.110
Vickers Vandermeer gets put in charge of it by

00:55:07.110 --> 00:55:09.250
his father -in -law, which I thought, here we

00:55:09.250 --> 00:55:13.010
go. There's a little bit there. And the story

00:55:13.010 --> 00:55:16.719
is he is... going from prawn house to prawn house,

00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:19.179
kicking them out, getting them to sign the documents.

00:55:19.460 --> 00:55:21.719
It's quite good. There's no universal translator

00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:23.559
there, but he can understand the clicks. Yep.

00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:27.239
Just put your scroll. Yeah. Put your scroll.

00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:28.820
I'm not going to try and do the accent. He hit

00:55:28.820 --> 00:55:31.940
the paper. That's enough. Yeah. That counts.

00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:35.619
That counts. That counts. That counts. And he

00:55:35.619 --> 00:55:39.719
goes to this particular prawn's house who, they

00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.940
kind of imply that. These are all worker prawns

00:55:42.940 --> 00:55:46.539
and none of them know how the ship works. Either

00:55:46.539 --> 00:55:49.320
they don't know how it works or they've forgotten

00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.460
how to do it. But there are some that do know.

00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:54.880
That's the entire premise of the film as it opens

00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:58.860
is that these aliens had forgotten or have no

00:55:58.860 --> 00:56:03.639
ability and no leadership to get anywhere, which

00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:05.519
is why they've just fallen into this kind of...

00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.320
poverty stricken inside waiting to be kind of

00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:10.199
rescued it kind of makes you think that maybe

00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:13.039
they're a hive kind of society and they need

00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:16.550
like a queen Or something to be in charge of

00:56:16.550 --> 00:56:18.590
them. But then that kind of goes away when you

00:56:18.590 --> 00:56:21.750
do see a few of the prawns do actually know.

00:56:21.829 --> 00:56:24.809
Like one of them makes a giant mech. And this

00:56:24.809 --> 00:56:27.250
other, the main one's making the fluid that they

00:56:27.250 --> 00:56:30.210
need. Well, so, sorry, we've got away from explaining.

00:56:30.349 --> 00:56:32.530
So yeah, so up to that point, so Vikas is going

00:56:32.530 --> 00:56:35.510
around evicting everyone. And he goes into one

00:56:35.510 --> 00:56:36.869
of the prawns' houses, gets some stuff sprayed

00:56:36.869 --> 00:56:39.570
in his face, changes his DNA, he starts turning

00:56:39.570 --> 00:56:41.760
into a prawn. He starts turning into a prawn.

00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:47.079
Yeah, he gets tortured by the humans, eventually

00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:51.260
escapes, and then is told that he can be cured

00:56:51.260 --> 00:56:53.840
by one of the prawns. Well, the one place he

00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:57.159
can go to is District 9, where he doesn't think

00:56:57.159 --> 00:56:58.760
they'll look for him. So he's hiding there and

00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:02.000
then gets confronted by the alien. Funny enough,

00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:07.460
he got his mate blown away. Yeah. And then we

00:57:07.460 --> 00:57:09.860
turn into action film. And then it's action film,

00:57:09.940 --> 00:57:14.400
yeah. And, yeah, that is the premise of the film.

00:57:14.659 --> 00:57:18.840
And I think the first thing, what are your thoughts

00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:20.519
on the film? Before you even go into that, for

00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.679
me, yeah, loved it when I first saw it. Looking

00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:27.920
at it now, I find it hard to actually enjoy it

00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:31.159
as much as I did back in 2009. I remember liking

00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:37.199
it, and I left still liking it. Certainly, I

00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:41.030
reacted to different things this time. vicar's

00:57:41.030 --> 00:57:43.769
character i didn't like i don't think he's likable

00:57:43.769 --> 00:57:47.829
he is and this is very selfish so the entire

00:57:47.829 --> 00:57:50.869
first part of the film is setting him up to be

00:57:50.869 --> 00:57:55.889
absolutely hated he is a bureaucrat he's just

00:57:55.889 --> 00:57:59.570
doing what he's told he has absolutely no empathy

00:57:59.570 --> 00:58:03.530
for what's going on there and that is what you've

00:58:03.530 --> 00:58:05.969
left to believe and of course the film is trying

00:58:05.969 --> 00:58:11.440
its best to be a parallel to what what has happened

00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:14.280
in south africa and we anyone that knows history

00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:16.400
will know you had the apartheid out in that south

00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:19.719
africa you had all sorts of atrocities that have

00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.460
happened in africa so these are all things that

00:58:22.460 --> 00:58:25.400
basically they are trying to say oh look we're

00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:28.599
being clever the aliens are the equivalent of

00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:30.360
what has happened previously in south africa

00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:32.400
and look at humans we haven't learned and now

00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:34.539
we're doing it to them and really we should have

00:58:34.539 --> 00:58:36.699
learned and not been dicks to each other basically

00:58:36.699 --> 00:58:41.090
um it doesn't spoon feed it to you but it is

00:58:41.090 --> 00:58:43.389
very very clear this is what the film is about

00:58:43.389 --> 00:58:46.090
the the film is purely a parallel to what we

00:58:46.090 --> 00:58:48.929
has already been done in that that country um

00:58:48.929 --> 00:58:51.389
but yeah for the first half of the film he is

00:58:51.389 --> 00:58:55.269
absolutely unlikable he is a horrible horrible

00:58:55.269 --> 00:58:58.809
person and there is nothing about him that really

00:58:58.809 --> 00:59:03.280
makes you think i could like him he deserves

00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:05.880
a second chance and then he gets sprayed in the

00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:07.820
face and everything starts going wrong for him

00:59:07.820 --> 00:59:10.739
and you still don't feel bad for him no you you

00:59:10.739 --> 00:59:14.019
can understand it kind of a bit of the middle

00:59:14.019 --> 00:59:16.139
you can kind of understand yeah i can see he

00:59:16.139 --> 00:59:18.780
he's now been promised by this prawn that he

00:59:18.780 --> 00:59:21.059
can turn him back to but that's not even the

00:59:21.059 --> 00:59:23.059
middle that's towards no but what i mean is when

00:59:23.059 --> 00:59:26.320
you that's his motivations to go and attack the

00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:29.519
humans with the prawn to get the this stuff back

00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.059
that's just skipping ahead a bit just to say

00:59:32.059 --> 00:59:36.320
that's the only point where i kind of sympathize

00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:39.139
with his motivations because he's doing it selfishly

00:59:39.139 --> 00:59:41.780
and you can understand it and you can understand

00:59:41.780 --> 00:59:44.000
because i think well i would also be doing that

00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:47.820
if this guy's told me that he can fix me i would

00:59:47.820 --> 00:59:51.300
go do that too that yeah that's fine but every

00:59:51.300 --> 00:59:53.840
moment before that and after that i don't like

00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.760
him that's it he's not a likable and this is

00:59:56.760 --> 01:00:00.309
what i said to jem every time they make you vaguely

01:00:00.309 --> 01:00:03.230
feel a bit of sympathy for him they immediately

01:00:03.230 --> 01:00:06.449
obliterate it a few minutes later and they they

01:00:06.449 --> 01:00:09.530
take it all away and it gets to that point where

01:00:09.530 --> 01:00:12.710
he is in the mech and the mech suits amazing

01:00:12.710 --> 01:00:16.110
such a great design absolutely loved that design

01:00:16.110 --> 01:00:21.050
thought bloody brilliant um and he just legs

01:00:21.050 --> 01:00:23.230
it And he runs away from the whole. And yes,

01:00:23.289 --> 01:00:25.130
you then get the, oh, he's had a change of heart.

01:00:25.170 --> 01:00:26.550
So he comes back and starts fighting. And he

01:00:26.550 --> 01:00:28.610
starts fighting to make sure he gets back. But

01:00:28.610 --> 01:00:31.710
again, it's purely selfish. And I just, by that

01:00:31.710 --> 01:00:35.170
point, I'd lost all interest whether anything

01:00:35.170 --> 01:00:38.289
good could happen to him anymore. Because they'd

01:00:38.289 --> 01:00:41.230
made him such an unlikable character. And he

01:00:41.230 --> 01:00:44.489
backstabbed the alien so many times by this point.

01:00:45.110 --> 01:00:47.210
I've got no care for him. And I think the bit.

01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:50.260
that finally broke it is when he knocks him out

01:00:50.260 --> 01:00:52.760
and tries to steal the drop ship himself oh yeah

01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:56.400
with the kid on board yeah i we've said this

01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:58.519
before the paternal instinct was kicking in i

01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:00.119
was like i don't remember what happens to this

01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:02.300
little baby if something happens this i'm gonna

01:01:02.300 --> 01:01:05.099
be fucking furious absolutely i was like that

01:01:05.099 --> 01:01:08.119
little prawn was so adorable i love and really

01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:10.340
fucking clever the little prawn is responsible

01:01:10.340 --> 01:01:12.980
for saving them why won't you leave me alone

01:01:12.980 --> 01:01:15.909
oh he likes you fuck off yeah and he's like fuck

01:01:15.909 --> 01:01:17.670
off and wax him and then the little prawn still

01:01:17.670 --> 01:01:20.449
comes back yeah he's like oh yeah uncle vickers

01:01:20.449 --> 01:01:22.789
will help you uncle because it's like no you're

01:01:22.789 --> 01:01:25.409
a fucking prick but no that that's one of my

01:01:25.409 --> 01:01:28.210
biggest problems with this film is he's so unlikable

01:01:28.210 --> 01:01:30.409
that it actually makes it a real struggle to

01:01:30.409 --> 01:01:31.650
get through the film because you're thinking

01:01:31.650 --> 01:01:36.030
i don't really care what happens to him um and

01:01:36.030 --> 01:01:40.730
the whole selfishness behind it but uh excluding

01:01:40.730 --> 01:01:43.800
that's one side some of it i think is pretty

01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:47.699
impressive i mean i like the fact that um i did

01:01:47.699 --> 01:01:49.780
have his name written down here and the cat has

01:01:49.780 --> 01:01:52.239
literally sat on my phone therefore it has changed

01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:56.500
what page um so this was sholto coopley or however

01:01:56.500 --> 01:02:00.170
you pronounce his name uh first roll First ever

01:02:00.170 --> 01:02:02.869
role. Who's that? That's Vickers. Oh, Vickers,

01:02:02.929 --> 01:02:05.090
sorry. That was Vickers' first role, so the character

01:02:05.090 --> 01:02:07.530
actor's first role. Mr. A -Team. And bear in

01:02:07.530 --> 01:02:09.570
mind, yes, he was Murdoch in the A -Team. He

01:02:09.570 --> 01:02:12.230
was Jimmy in Hardcore Henry. He was Chappie in

01:02:12.230 --> 01:02:14.929
Chappie. Oh, is he? I haven't seen Chappie. Oh,

01:02:14.929 --> 01:02:18.130
Chappie's amazing. He was in The Witcher. yeah

01:02:18.130 --> 01:02:19.650
he's the character in the witcher that i said

01:02:19.650 --> 01:02:22.449
is the only reason to watch season four the richer

01:02:22.449 --> 01:02:24.769
is because three whatever the most season is

01:02:24.769 --> 01:02:27.070
because of him oh he was employed he is the reason

01:02:27.070 --> 01:02:28.869
he was in boy kills world which we saw at the

01:02:28.869 --> 01:02:32.309
cinema yes um he's in a load of films but this

01:02:32.309 --> 01:02:34.670
was his very first one and he basically got the

01:02:34.670 --> 01:02:38.289
role because he was i've forgotten what they've

01:02:38.289 --> 01:02:41.130
said now he was wasn't actually intending to

01:02:41.130 --> 01:02:44.920
be an actor he read for it And they liked him.

01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:46.380
And then they said, well, no, we want you to

01:02:46.380 --> 01:02:49.099
be the main character. And, oh, here you go.

01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:51.639
Had not acted before and had no intention on

01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:53.659
pursuing an acting career. He stumbled into the

01:02:53.659 --> 01:02:56.260
leading role as director Neil Blomkamp, placed

01:02:56.260 --> 01:02:59.039
him on camera during the short film. Oh, what

01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:01.320
do you mean short film? This is entirely based

01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:04.360
on something that Neil Blomkamp did before, which

01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:08.179
was called, I've got the name of it right here.

01:03:08.699 --> 01:03:13.719
It was called Alive in Joburg. An eerie tale

01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:16.219
of a close encounter of the third kind in Johannesburg.

01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:23.579
Neil Blomkamp, and it was done in 2005. And basically,

01:03:23.659 --> 01:03:28.000
that's the picture for it. Oh, well, it's exactly

01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.380
the same. Exactly. Same shit. This was the initial

01:03:31.380 --> 01:03:34.119
idea, which he then turned into District 9. I

01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:39.420
love the idea of you not being an actor in any

01:03:39.420 --> 01:03:41.880
way and just kind of stumbling into this situation.

01:03:43.049 --> 01:03:47.449
where you suddenly are getting a part for a film.

01:03:47.730 --> 01:03:50.889
It's like, this isn't going to happen to me,

01:03:50.969 --> 01:03:53.909
but it's like I get a client who happens to be

01:03:53.909 --> 01:03:56.550
like a producer or a director or something. And

01:03:56.550 --> 01:03:59.170
I get to know them and they go, I'll do my thing.

01:03:59.190 --> 01:04:00.690
Just read this for me. I've just got this thing.

01:04:00.789 --> 01:04:02.929
And then before you know it, you're a film star.

01:04:03.170 --> 01:04:04.469
Do you know what I mean? It's that kind of thing.

01:04:04.989 --> 01:04:09.719
Because some of this might be bollocks. But I'm

01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:11.699
sure there was a thing about Harrison Ford was

01:04:11.699 --> 01:04:15.679
a carpenter on sets or something and then got

01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:19.760
asked to do help with something on set and then

01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:21.260
suddenly he's an actor. Do you know what I mean?

01:04:21.300 --> 01:04:25.380
And there was Harry Enfield and Chums is one

01:04:25.380 --> 01:04:29.320
of them where it's got, is it Paul Whitehouse?

01:04:29.579 --> 01:04:32.380
Yeah. And one of the other guys were painter

01:04:32.380 --> 01:04:38.530
decorators in Harry's house. Yes, vaguely. And

01:04:38.530 --> 01:04:40.090
he thought they were hilarious because they were

01:04:40.090 --> 01:04:42.210
always doing impressions and stuff. So he got

01:04:42.210 --> 01:04:43.690
them to do stuff and now they are who they are.

01:04:43.909 --> 01:04:45.510
I mean, that might be bollocks. It might be all

01:04:45.510 --> 01:04:47.010
these little weird stories that all might be

01:04:47.010 --> 01:04:49.369
bollocks, but there's just these people who come

01:04:49.369 --> 01:04:51.849
into it and come into it as adults too, like

01:04:51.849 --> 01:04:54.829
grown -ups, suddenly they're doing these amazing

01:04:54.829 --> 01:04:57.550
films and things. Well, and this was another

01:04:57.550 --> 01:05:00.090
really thing I thought, actually, that makes

01:05:00.090 --> 01:05:06.960
sense, which is pretty impressive. if true that

01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.739
he was never intending to be an actor um where

01:05:10.739 --> 01:05:15.639
where is i've just so sholto copley ad -libbed

01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.019
all his lines during the documentary oh really

01:05:19.019 --> 01:05:21.360
so that's all so there's those bits when it's

01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:24.260
the documentary side of things that's ad -libbed

01:05:24.260 --> 01:05:27.159
and then copley and jason cope improvised their

01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:29.980
dialogue in other scenes now jason cope played

01:05:29.980 --> 01:05:33.920
and i want to just confirm this before i say

01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:39.059
it Grey Bradham, who's the UKNR chief. So I'm

01:05:39.059 --> 01:05:42.820
guessing was that his... Oh, I don't know. I

01:05:42.820 --> 01:05:50.280
don't know. Show me a picture of him. Oh, that's

01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:52.340
an old picture. That doesn't help, does it? That's

01:05:52.340 --> 01:05:54.480
not the... That's not the father -in -law. Is

01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:58.099
he the father or is he the security man? Yeah,

01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:01.079
I think that's the one. Isn't he training one

01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:03.039
of them, isn't he? Isn't that the one he's training?

01:06:03.340 --> 01:06:07.860
Thomas. Anyway, no, actually it wouldn't be.

01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:10.599
And either way, apparently that was ad -libbed.

01:06:10.900 --> 01:06:12.719
So to consider that someone that didn't want

01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:15.300
to be an actor then gets to ad -lib his lines

01:06:15.300 --> 01:06:18.380
for the film, it's pretty awesome. Oh, no, it's

01:06:18.380 --> 01:06:22.159
him. Oh, right, yes. Okay, that makes a lot of

01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:25.820
sense. But what I'm going to say is I didn't

01:06:25.820 --> 01:06:28.639
like the documentary bit. As much as it's a clever

01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:35.639
idea, I'm sorry, but I hate... I hate shaky cam.

01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:39.260
I can't deal with Cloverfield. I tried rewatching

01:06:39.260 --> 01:06:41.980
Cloverfield recently. I can't, I literally cannot

01:06:41.980 --> 01:06:43.679
get on with it. I don't know if something in

01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:47.119
my brain has changed. Maybe no idea. I just can't

01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:50.320
watch it. And I really struggled just to keep

01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:52.920
focus on how much they move it around. And I

01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:55.239
was thinking the number of documentaries I've

01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:58.639
watched in the past. even war bloody documentaries

01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:02.079
the camera does not move like this it's like

01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:06.679
this over exaggerated requirement of action on

01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:09.179
the cameraman for these documentaries it just

01:07:09.179 --> 01:07:13.059
doesn't it didn't work for me um i loved the

01:07:13.059 --> 01:07:16.820
idea of it and if the camera had been just that

01:07:16.820 --> 01:07:19.360
little bit more stabilized that little bit more

01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:24.750
stationary i guess I might have been on board

01:07:24.750 --> 01:07:27.369
with it a bit more, but it just made it a very

01:07:27.369 --> 01:07:30.449
hard watch for me. That entire first section

01:07:30.449 --> 01:07:34.969
where a lot of it is that shaky cam. The constant

01:07:34.969 --> 01:07:37.210
need to point at the floor and then zoom off

01:07:37.210 --> 01:07:38.869
to the right or point at the floor and zoom off

01:07:38.869 --> 01:07:42.949
to the left. Just too much of it. Just too much.

01:07:43.420 --> 01:07:45.000
Yeah, I mean, I've got the opposite opinion.

01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:48.380
I did like the documentary bit. I was just thinking

01:07:48.380 --> 01:07:50.260
while you're saying that. Well, no, I liked the

01:07:50.260 --> 01:07:53.780
idea of it. I liked the content. I did not like

01:07:53.780 --> 01:07:55.380
the film. You didn't like the execution of it.

01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:59.340
Yes. I would have liked to see a version of the

01:07:59.340 --> 01:08:02.400
film when the entire thing is that. And, you

01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:05.159
know, they could feel the bit when they're attacking

01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:09.820
the human stronghold. It could have been security

01:08:09.820 --> 01:08:13.250
cameras seeing them doing it. Yeah, and arguably,

01:08:13.309 --> 01:08:16.029
I would have actually preferred it if the entire

01:08:16.029 --> 01:08:18.850
film had been that. The only bit I'm trying to

01:08:18.850 --> 01:08:20.590
think, because then it would have been helicopter

01:08:20.590 --> 01:08:23.130
cameras looking at them driving like an American

01:08:23.130 --> 01:08:27.050
car chase that you'd see on TV, where they've

01:08:27.050 --> 01:08:29.850
got the news helicopters following, looking at

01:08:29.850 --> 01:08:32.409
them. I don't know how they would have done the

01:08:32.409 --> 01:08:35.850
bit with the Nigerian gangsters. That would have

01:08:35.850 --> 01:08:37.670
had to have been someone's phone filming, but

01:08:37.670 --> 01:08:40.020
at the time... that film was happening those

01:08:40.020 --> 01:08:41.960
people didn't have camera and that was just to

01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:44.520
say body cameras were still in their infancy

01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:46.500
yeah it would have been it would have been a

01:08:46.500 --> 01:08:50.319
difficult thing but i guess yeah it's it's one

01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:53.020
of those things it's you could have still kept

01:08:53.020 --> 01:08:56.420
it as they'd done but kept it with the documentary

01:08:56.420 --> 01:09:00.500
side of it because you could have had it as people

01:09:00.500 --> 01:09:03.500
recalling what happened they could have been

01:09:03.500 --> 01:09:06.600
interviewing the the nigerian gangsters that

01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:09.800
survived the incident yeah explaining what it

01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:12.699
was and then literally just do standard hollywood

01:09:12.699 --> 01:09:14.680
filming for it yeah because then you could say

01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:17.840
that's the story as they're explaining it so

01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:19.659
that that would have worked as well and then

01:09:19.659 --> 01:09:21.600
you could have kept the entire thing this documentary

01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:24.619
but instead what they do that first half documentary

01:09:24.619 --> 01:09:29.260
second half so straight up hollywood action That

01:09:29.260 --> 01:09:32.680
again, it's a bit jarring. It's too much to be

01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:40.039
so different. Okay. So visually, let's talk about

01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:43.579
how the film looked. I think they borrowed the

01:09:43.579 --> 01:09:46.000
idea from Close Encounters of the Third Kind

01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.060
for the spaceship. Let's face it. This giant

01:09:49.060 --> 01:09:53.239
floating city designed spaceship. It's all quite

01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:58.130
believable though. Oh yeah. The mothership itself,

01:09:58.470 --> 01:10:02.430
it looked right. It looked like that. And it

01:10:02.430 --> 01:10:04.109
looked like something that those aliens would

01:10:04.109 --> 01:10:07.909
build. You're touching on the mech earlier. I

01:10:07.909 --> 01:10:11.189
find it interesting how humans make mechs that

01:10:11.189 --> 01:10:13.409
look like people. They've made a mech that looks

01:10:13.409 --> 01:10:15.520
like a prawn. yes even the face was like the

01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:18.539
long with tentacles interesting how they did

01:10:18.539 --> 01:10:21.319
that um now i don't think they built that i think

01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:23.220
that's just come from the ship just like the

01:10:23.220 --> 01:10:25.119
weapons has i think it is something that they

01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:28.619
already had had built um because the whole film

01:10:28.619 --> 01:10:30.359
at the beginning again says that there's this

01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:32.439
kind of this illegal trade in alien technology

01:10:32.439 --> 01:10:36.399
so whatever has fallen down they've kind of been

01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:38.760
trading it for money or cat food in this case

01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.130
i never understood that I think that was just

01:10:41.130 --> 01:10:43.329
a quirk of the film. I didn't get the cat food

01:10:43.329 --> 01:10:45.430
thing. It's something to do with, again, during

01:10:45.430 --> 01:10:47.789
apartheid, not necessarily cat food, but the

01:10:47.789 --> 01:10:50.789
fact that there was particular things that was

01:10:50.789 --> 01:10:53.729
really wanted. So they kind of tried to make

01:10:53.729 --> 01:10:56.390
it so that there's this thing that they really

01:10:56.390 --> 01:10:59.649
want. And yeah, I mean, it kind of worked. It

01:10:59.649 --> 01:11:01.550
kind of made sense that they're kind of aliens

01:11:01.550 --> 01:11:04.430
and they don't really know what food, earth food

01:11:04.430 --> 01:11:09.210
is. So giving them cat food, so what? Yeah. but

01:11:09.210 --> 01:11:11.750
but yeah so i was like i really liked the design

01:11:11.750 --> 01:11:15.130
of the ship i really loved all the aesthetics

01:11:15.130 --> 01:11:17.649
really i like the design of the aliens and i

01:11:17.649 --> 01:11:20.510
thought the cgi was great there's only one moment

01:11:20.510 --> 01:11:22.829
where i thought it was a bit ropey right near

01:11:22.829 --> 01:11:28.529
the start when you first see the main prawn who

01:11:28.529 --> 01:11:31.029
wears the kind of red thing and his mate while

01:11:31.029 --> 01:11:33.800
he's still alive as adults They're comped pretty

01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:37.260
badly in that shot. And when the mech catches

01:11:37.260 --> 01:11:40.859
the bullets, those bullets aren't lighted very

01:11:40.859 --> 01:11:44.119
well at all. They look completely false. So it's

01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:46.500
a low budget film. It's 30 million. But all the

01:11:46.500 --> 01:11:51.000
rest, in my opinion, the mech, it could have

01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:52.420
been there for all I knew. That mech was real.

01:11:52.539 --> 01:11:54.199
The mech was brilliant for the most part. Other

01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:56.039
than that scene, as I said, about catching the

01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:58.869
bullets. I think you can suspend your disbelief

01:11:58.869 --> 01:12:00.689
for all the rest of it. I don't know. There were

01:12:00.689 --> 01:12:03.890
a few badly comp bits when it's jumping over

01:12:03.890 --> 01:12:06.409
various bits. But it's all quite fast -paced

01:12:06.409 --> 01:12:08.250
and quick shots, and you can let it slide. And

01:12:08.250 --> 01:12:10.390
I will actually say, you've got it on Blu -ray.

01:12:10.409 --> 01:12:13.130
I've got it on DVD. I actually finished watching

01:12:13.130 --> 01:12:17.449
it on a free app called Tubi, T -U -B -I, part

01:12:17.449 --> 01:12:19.729
of Amazon, I think. And it's got a load of films

01:12:19.729 --> 01:12:21.989
on there, absolutely free. There were no adverts

01:12:21.989 --> 01:12:24.930
in it either, weirdly. And District 9 was on

01:12:24.930 --> 01:12:26.789
there. So I finished the last half of it on there.

01:12:27.329 --> 01:12:31.689
Oh my God, the DVD is bad quality. So bad quality.

01:12:31.949 --> 01:12:33.829
And it's a genuine DVD as well. Now, you know

01:12:33.829 --> 01:12:38.890
what? I know DVDs upscale to 4K or whatever never

01:12:38.890 --> 01:12:42.449
look brilliant. I was only watching 1080p. Well,

01:12:42.529 --> 01:12:46.850
I watched the latest Hunger Games DVD, Ballads

01:12:46.850 --> 01:12:50.250
of Snow, whatever it is. That was a DVD. You

01:12:50.250 --> 01:12:52.609
could not have told me that that was not just

01:12:52.609 --> 01:12:55.319
like... a standard stream it looked brilliant

01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:59.119
but bugger me district 9's dvd i don't know what

01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:02.800
they did with it but god it's awful really murky

01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:08.000
um it's not good not good at all so because i

01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:09.539
initially was starting to think is it just the

01:13:09.539 --> 01:13:11.000
dvd player and then i thought no we've watched

01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:12.659
something recently on it and it's absolutely

01:13:12.659 --> 01:13:16.039
fine it's just the dvd of it and possibly that

01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:17.960
that didn't help some of my feelings towards

01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:22.619
it then um Interestingly, none of the aliens

01:13:22.619 --> 01:13:25.560
existed except for the bodies in the bio lab.

01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:29.100
They were all added after filming. So all the

01:13:29.100 --> 01:13:30.739
time they're talking to the aliens, they were

01:13:30.739 --> 01:13:32.359
talking to no one. Oh, they didn't even have

01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:35.239
people in blue suits? Don't think so. Interesting.

01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:38.680
Which is quite impressive because actually they've

01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:40.899
done a brilliant job at making it look like they

01:13:40.899 --> 01:13:42.800
were there. Yeah, eye lines and everything. Exactly.

01:13:42.859 --> 01:13:45.119
So a lot of effort was put into that, which is

01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:46.819
what made me think straight away kind of Peter

01:13:46.819 --> 01:13:51.180
Jackson and his involvement in it. Yeah, that's

01:13:51.180 --> 01:13:54.579
interesting because there's so many interactions

01:13:54.579 --> 01:13:58.239
between them and the environment. And as I said,

01:13:58.260 --> 01:14:02.680
I can only pinpoint two occasions where I would

01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:06.600
go, that's not great. But all the rest of it,

01:14:06.619 --> 01:14:08.819
I was like, for something that came out in 2009,

01:14:09.140 --> 01:14:12.359
this is great. I mean, that film could come out

01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:15.119
now and I wouldn't think any different. I'd still

01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:17.539
have the same opinion on it graphically. Yeah,

01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:19.819
I mean, most of it, I think, still looks... It's

01:14:19.819 --> 01:14:21.220
better than fucking anything Disney's been putting

01:14:21.220 --> 01:14:23.899
out graphically recently. Oh, my God, yeah. It's

01:14:23.899 --> 01:14:26.479
better than War of the Worlds with Top of the

01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:32.560
Razzies. A few bits I was going to say. I love

01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:34.479
the fact that the mech picks up a pig and just

01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:36.140
launches it at a soldier. I did, yeah, I know.

01:14:36.699 --> 01:14:38.960
That was a callback to him saying something about

01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:40.859
a pig earlier in the film, I think. I think so,

01:14:40.859 --> 01:14:43.000
yeah. And then I really like all the deaths,

01:14:43.140 --> 01:14:45.899
all the way the alien weapons kill people. So

01:14:45.899 --> 01:14:48.380
you've got that one. That looked amazing. The

01:14:48.380 --> 01:14:50.840
ring of fire that was firing out pressure waves.

01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:54.760
The lightning one that just erupts people into

01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:57.800
this blood splatter was absolutely brilliant.

01:14:57.979 --> 01:15:00.659
So all the alien tech looked absolutely brilliant.

01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:03.979
And again, for a low budget film, 30 million

01:15:03.979 --> 01:15:07.579
is low budget, bearing in mind what we see, especially

01:15:07.579 --> 01:15:10.680
nowadays. There was one bit that really made

01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:14.819
me laugh. So they're breaking into the MNU. and

01:15:14.819 --> 01:15:16.880
he's putting his fingerprint everywhere to get

01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:19.680
in why is his fingerprint still working he's

01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:22.319
been fired and allegedly killed and whatever

01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:25.640
but all the devices that he puts his fingerprint

01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:29.439
in we had one at the ambulance company i worked

01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:33.600
at exactly that model it was 20 pounds it came

01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:36.260
with a really crap piece of chinese software

01:15:36.260 --> 01:15:39.500
that only ran on xp it's a clocking in machine

01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:42.479
Oh, is it? Yep. It's a clocking in machine that

01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:45.420
could read RFID tags or your fingerprint. And

01:15:45.420 --> 01:15:48.279
we could never get the fingerprint to work. How

01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:51.800
funny. It was awful. And it's exactly that model.

01:15:51.939 --> 01:15:53.720
And I'm just looking at it. I recognize that.

01:15:53.739 --> 01:15:56.140
Oh, my God. It's the clocking in machine. Yeah.

01:15:56.979 --> 01:16:00.039
Oh, my God. And yeah, when it lost power, no

01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:02.420
internal battery, you then had to reprogram it

01:16:02.420 --> 01:16:04.600
every time. Oh, dear. That's not very good. No,

01:16:04.739 --> 01:16:09.300
it was awful. But yeah, so. one of the other

01:16:09.300 --> 01:16:11.760
bits i didn't like then and it sounds like i

01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:15.039
didn't like i did enjoy the film i did enjoy

01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:17.840
watching it but part of me came away from it

01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:21.300
thinking there is no way i've enjoyed this as

01:16:21.300 --> 01:16:24.180
much as i did back in 2009 there's too many things

01:16:24.180 --> 01:16:27.840
in it making me i wouldn't watch it again i wouldn't

01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:31.039
say i'd like to watch that again at any time

01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:33.560
so maybe in a few fair few years i'll put it

01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:35.739
back on again but nothing makes me want to go

01:16:35.739 --> 01:16:38.010
back and go Actually, I'd quite like to re -watch

01:16:38.010 --> 01:16:39.729
it and see what I missed. Miranda didn't want

01:16:39.729 --> 01:16:41.170
to watch it again because she said that she didn't

01:16:41.170 --> 01:16:43.609
like it the first time around. Next time I watch

01:16:43.609 --> 01:16:46.430
it will be if T wants to watch it. The high,

01:16:46.529 --> 01:16:49.409
constant, high -pitched noise they added into

01:16:49.409 --> 01:16:53.890
it throughout all of it. There was loads of scenes

01:16:53.890 --> 01:16:57.890
where the background sound, there is a high -pitched

01:16:57.890 --> 01:17:01.449
ringing. I didn't notice that. Oh, God, yeah,

01:17:01.609 --> 01:17:05.090
straight through my skull. I couldn't get away

01:17:05.090 --> 01:17:07.090
from it. It's in the documentary bit. It's in

01:17:07.090 --> 01:17:11.770
the action bit. Awful. I didn't notice that at

01:17:11.770 --> 01:17:15.930
all. How bizarre. I had headphones on listening

01:17:15.930 --> 01:17:19.409
to it. Very odd. Maybe I'll have to put it on

01:17:19.409 --> 01:17:22.689
again and see if I can hear it. Maybe your hearing's

01:17:22.689 --> 01:17:24.710
worse than mine. Maybe you've lost that range

01:17:24.710 --> 01:17:29.510
of noise. Pardon? Bad joke of the day. Yeah,

01:17:29.529 --> 01:17:32.289
I mean, that drove me nuts. And it was definitely

01:17:32.289 --> 01:17:42.069
on the DVD and on the stream. I can't really

01:17:42.069 --> 01:17:46.789
find an adequate way to say how I genuinely feel

01:17:46.789 --> 01:17:49.550
about the film. Because I don't want to say I

01:17:49.550 --> 01:17:51.710
hate it. I don't want to say I didn't like it.

01:17:52.289 --> 01:17:54.470
But I don't want to say I liked it and I definitely

01:17:54.470 --> 01:17:57.949
wouldn't say I loved it. It's really in the middle.

01:17:59.789 --> 01:18:01.970
I think the most disturbing thing is the only

01:18:01.970 --> 01:18:04.409
character I genuinely liked was the little prawn.

01:18:04.689 --> 01:18:06.609
Yeah, he's the best character in the whole thing.

01:18:08.750 --> 01:18:13.909
Adorable. And I don't know, maybe I'm being really

01:18:13.909 --> 01:18:16.270
unfair to it because obviously it was really

01:18:16.270 --> 01:18:19.409
original when it came out. How many films had

01:18:19.409 --> 01:18:22.850
done what they did and to the budget they did

01:18:22.850 --> 01:18:27.649
it to, how many had actually done that? oddly

01:18:27.649 --> 01:18:29.569
enough again we've chosen the film which has

01:18:29.569 --> 01:18:33.069
been in the news recently the guy who wanted

01:18:33.069 --> 01:18:34.829
to do a sequel couldn't get anything to happen

01:18:34.829 --> 01:18:37.350
with it within the last five days as of recording

01:18:37.350 --> 01:18:40.449
there's quite a good chance there might be a

01:18:40.449 --> 01:18:43.750
sequel no that's a i hadn't heard any of that

01:18:43.750 --> 01:18:48.130
and full district 10 i really don't want them

01:18:48.130 --> 01:18:52.500
to i actually think and now i came out 2009,

01:18:52.579 --> 01:18:55.159
came out at the cinema. I cannot wait for a sequel.

01:18:55.260 --> 01:18:56.680
I wonder what they're going to do with it. The

01:18:56.680 --> 01:18:58.039
entire time there's always meant to have been

01:18:58.039 --> 01:19:00.760
a sequel. And you know what? Seeing the end of

01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:03.699
it, not just because maybe I've got the dislike

01:19:03.699 --> 01:19:08.239
for the film. I feel like it's a film that doesn't

01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:11.659
need a sequel. Actually leaving it where it was

01:19:11.659 --> 01:19:16.659
is perfect. Yeah. They've gone away on this journey,

01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:21.100
just the two aliens. And he's kind of been abandoned

01:19:21.100 --> 01:19:24.159
with the, am I going to survive? What's going

01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:27.600
to happen to me? Am I going to mutate more? I

01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.859
don't think a sequel is going to work because

01:19:30.859 --> 01:19:32.300
what are you going to do with that? It'd just

01:19:32.300 --> 01:19:34.920
be an attack film. It's going to either be an

01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:38.699
attack film or a rescue film. And yeah, basically,

01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:41.000
which turns into an attack film. It's either

01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:43.159
they're going to attack us or they're going to

01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:44.920
be coming to us and we're going to be attacking

01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:48.140
them. And what they're going to do is it's been

01:19:48.140 --> 01:19:51.159
too long since the film now. So what we're going

01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:54.359
to end up with is a film full of stupid futuristic

01:19:54.359 --> 01:20:00.220
tech. That means you lose all that gritty, feels

01:20:00.220 --> 01:20:02.279
like it was a real scenario that was actually

01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:06.760
happening. That's gone. And you can't do documentary

01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:11.979
action again. That would not work. Considering

01:20:11.979 --> 01:20:16.750
what this whole film is about, The unbelievable

01:20:16.750 --> 01:20:21.470
part of the entire plot is to think that other

01:20:21.470 --> 01:20:25.750
countries, namely America, wouldn't have invaded

01:20:25.750 --> 01:20:30.529
and taken over. Right. Big, big hole that I didn't

01:20:30.529 --> 01:20:32.930
see the first time I saw it or subsequent until

01:20:32.930 --> 01:20:36.590
now. Biggest hole in the film for me. Why did

01:20:36.590 --> 01:20:43.710
they come to Earth? I took it as they got lost.

01:20:44.410 --> 01:20:46.510
So they've turned up to Earth. Yeah, okay. So

01:20:46.510 --> 01:20:49.529
they got lost. They've turned up to Earth. And

01:20:49.529 --> 01:20:52.829
for X amount of time, nothing happens. They finally

01:20:52.829 --> 01:20:54.529
end up cutting a hole inside of the spaceship

01:20:54.529 --> 01:20:59.210
and find them all basically rotting and not able

01:20:59.210 --> 01:21:01.449
to care for themselves. So they bring them down

01:21:01.449 --> 01:21:06.010
to Earth. Okay. Why then in the past 20 years

01:21:06.010 --> 01:21:08.689
has one of them been capable of working out,

01:21:08.729 --> 01:21:11.529
we need to make fuel for the ship because it

01:21:11.529 --> 01:21:13.899
turns out the ship had run out of fuel. that

01:21:13.899 --> 01:21:15.699
we can get the fuel from all this alien tech

01:21:15.699 --> 01:21:18.119
that, by the way, has fallen from the ship. He's

01:21:18.119 --> 01:21:20.739
not using human stuff to make this fuel. He's

01:21:20.739 --> 01:21:23.000
using alien technology that they've been scrounging

01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:25.460
and looking for to make the black stuff, the

01:21:25.460 --> 01:21:27.220
liquid, the fuel, whatever you want to call it.

01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:31.899
And then he, and even his baby brawn, has the

01:21:31.899 --> 01:21:34.359
full ability to understand how to program this

01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:36.840
drop ship that they finally found and program

01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:39.640
the proper ship and control it and then navigate

01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:46.239
to their planet. just for me that's well why

01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:48.300
did they come here in the first place why are

01:21:48.300 --> 01:21:50.840
they then in a squalid thing and not just able

01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:54.119
to sort themselves out straight away well it

01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:56.800
does say that that bit of the ship fell off straight

01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:00.640
away and that was the navigate looks like some

01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:04.220
kind of navigation it's weird because yeah they

01:22:04.220 --> 01:22:06.600
call it the command module or something like

01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:09.939
that module is its own ship it's a bit of a design

01:22:09.939 --> 01:22:13.439
fault surely that that thing can fall off Well,

01:22:13.539 --> 01:22:16.279
at the end, I don't think it's meant to fall

01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:18.300
off. I think it's meant to be the sort of thing

01:22:18.300 --> 01:22:22.680
that almost like the Enterprise's second bridge.

01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:28.479
You can control the ship from there. But this

01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:30.680
is where it could have... The mothership should

01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:32.300
need it. But this is why it could have got so

01:22:32.300 --> 01:22:34.199
much more interesting. Rather than going down

01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:36.819
this whole fucking action thing that they did,

01:22:36.979 --> 01:22:38.140
they could have kept it as a documentary and

01:22:38.140 --> 01:22:40.479
had it... They could have finally... They could

01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:43.050
have actually had Wickers. literally talk to

01:22:43.050 --> 01:22:45.909
the problem no one has ever asked your side of

01:22:45.909 --> 01:22:49.229
the story why did you oh well actually we were

01:22:49.229 --> 01:22:52.310
prisoners on that ship that command module was

01:22:52.310 --> 01:22:53.869
the only way that we could have controlled the

01:22:53.869 --> 01:22:55.609
ship actually the bridge has been completely

01:22:55.609 --> 01:22:58.829
sabotaged being locked up we were basically dumped

01:22:58.829 --> 01:23:01.390
here you could have had any sort of that and

01:23:01.390 --> 01:23:04.930
actually all we want to do is go home why again

01:23:04.930 --> 01:23:07.069
why is no one from home come looking for them

01:23:07.490 --> 01:23:09.630
There's this giant ship that is still working.

01:23:09.770 --> 01:23:12.270
It's still hovering. It's still doing things.

01:23:12.350 --> 01:23:13.729
It's still got flashing lights on the top of

01:23:13.729 --> 01:23:15.050
it. It's got enough fuel to just hover there.

01:23:15.210 --> 01:23:18.829
Yeah. There's just too many. So why have you

01:23:18.829 --> 01:23:21.569
taken 20 years to do this? And bearing in mind

01:23:21.569 --> 01:23:23.590
that South Africa is saying, we really don't

01:23:23.590 --> 01:23:25.289
want to be dealing with the prawns anymore. You

01:23:25.289 --> 01:23:26.829
would have thought... The rest of the world would

01:23:26.829 --> 01:23:28.090
have got involved. They absolutely would have

01:23:28.090 --> 01:23:28.850
got involved. Well, the rest of the world would

01:23:28.850 --> 01:23:29.850
have got involved. But wouldn't you have thought,

01:23:29.930 --> 01:23:31.930
if you don't want them, wouldn't you have spoken

01:23:31.930 --> 01:23:34.770
to them and said, are you sure none of you know

01:23:34.770 --> 01:23:37.479
how to get that thing up there working? because

01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:40.460
christopher johnson turned out he did well that

01:23:40.460 --> 01:23:42.220
that's it and they could have aided him and said

01:23:42.220 --> 01:23:45.119
okay well i know the idea is actually they didn't

01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:46.800
want they wanted the alien tech they wanted them

01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:49.260
all to die and therefore that's that's the that's

01:23:49.260 --> 01:23:52.300
the reason for it but okay their drop ship goes

01:23:52.300 --> 01:23:54.859
up at the very end if that had been real life

01:23:54.859 --> 01:23:57.479
that ship would have still absolutely been crawling

01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:00.609
with scientists the military because they would

01:24:00.609 --> 01:24:03.010
have been stripping out every little bit they

01:24:03.010 --> 01:24:05.550
could have been inside to work it out. That is

01:24:05.550 --> 01:24:08.850
the other kind of bit where you're like... The

01:24:08.850 --> 01:24:13.109
main one for me is the thought that NATO or someone

01:24:13.109 --> 01:24:16.149
wouldn't have been there. Because I'm taking

01:24:16.149 --> 01:24:20.989
that that military force is just the South Africans'

01:24:21.170 --> 01:24:23.569
military, that they've called something. I don't

01:24:23.569 --> 01:24:26.270
think it's like a... Or it's a private military

01:24:26.270 --> 01:24:31.350
company. This is meant to be based on... similar

01:24:31.350 --> 01:24:34.890
things that happened during neil blomkamp's um

01:24:34.890 --> 01:24:38.229
youth during the apartheid yeah where to be honest

01:24:38.229 --> 01:24:40.329
the world didn't get involved they should have

01:24:40.329 --> 01:24:42.930
involved way more than they did but during it

01:24:42.930 --> 01:24:46.409
it was just yeah it was shit and i guess that's

01:24:46.409 --> 01:24:48.149
kind of what they were kind of aiming at with

01:24:48.149 --> 01:24:50.270
that we're not going to spoon feed it to you

01:24:50.270 --> 01:24:55.229
but you can see the mirror um but yeah that just

01:24:55.229 --> 01:24:58.010
also said to me it's like so why have you taken

01:24:58.010 --> 01:25:00.109
20 You could have come forward and said, well,

01:25:00.149 --> 01:25:03.449
actually, I can fix the ship. I could go. Why

01:25:03.449 --> 01:25:05.470
haven't you told all the other aliens that you're

01:25:05.470 --> 01:25:07.489
literally living with? This is what we're looking

01:25:07.489 --> 01:25:12.850
for. Because then we can all go home. It just

01:25:12.850 --> 01:25:15.470
didn't make sense. So then you've got to ask

01:25:15.470 --> 01:25:17.630
yourself, actually, if he's not involving all

01:25:17.630 --> 01:25:21.329
the aliens, were they actually coming to Earth

01:25:21.329 --> 01:25:24.729
to be refugees? Yeah. Did they actually intend

01:25:24.729 --> 01:25:26.770
to come here and just get off and live here?

01:25:28.270 --> 01:25:31.090
i don't know and that's the other bit that plays

01:25:31.090 --> 01:25:33.529
in my mind making this this story just doesn't

01:25:33.529 --> 01:25:36.170
make sense now why did they come here in the

01:25:36.170 --> 01:25:38.329
first place why is he not told the rest of his

01:25:38.329 --> 01:25:40.210
race by the way i can get us home if we want

01:25:40.210 --> 01:25:43.010
to go home unless they wanted to come here in

01:25:43.010 --> 01:25:45.210
the first place it's not explained enough the

01:25:45.210 --> 01:25:48.470
sequel we haven't said it could be they're now

01:25:48.470 --> 01:25:51.909
in district 10 in that slum yeah but actually

01:25:51.909 --> 01:25:57.159
opinions are changing you know People are marching

01:25:57.159 --> 01:26:00.300
for their rights. One of them starts standing

01:26:00.300 --> 01:26:04.880
up, being a politician for their rights to integrate

01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:07.439
with the rest of Africa. Do you know what I mean?

01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:10.720
And then when the aliens come back with Christopher

01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:13.239
Robin, whatever his name was. Christopher Johnson.

01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:16.420
That's it. And they come back with a full military

01:26:16.420 --> 01:26:18.720
force. But actually, at that point, the prawns

01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:22.460
have started integrating and are being treated

01:26:22.460 --> 01:26:27.140
fairly. then you're going to have that kind of

01:26:27.140 --> 01:26:31.060
political aspect of, no, we were tortured for

01:26:31.060 --> 01:26:33.159
all this time because he won't have known the

01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:35.859
change. He's gone three years later. He's going

01:26:35.859 --> 01:26:37.960
to say we're back. So a year and a half there,

01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:40.380
a year and a half back. But I think the way they

01:26:40.380 --> 01:26:42.279
should do it is it takes a lot longer because

01:26:42.279 --> 01:26:45.760
he's got to go and convince all of the rest of

01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:47.640
the prawns on their home planet, no, we need

01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:51.359
to come here and save our people. Don't just

01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:54.970
leave them like you left us. For 20 years. Cause

01:26:54.970 --> 01:26:56.149
that could be a thing. They could have been like,

01:26:56.229 --> 01:26:58.470
they could have the, you know, their government

01:26:58.470 --> 01:27:00.050
could be like, no, it's not worth us going to

01:27:00.050 --> 01:27:03.109
save just one ship. You know, they might have

01:27:03.109 --> 01:27:05.369
a planet full of billions and billions of them.

01:27:05.590 --> 01:27:08.670
Yeah. This 2 million or whatever it two and a

01:27:08.670 --> 01:27:11.149
half million prawns. It said it was might just

01:27:11.149 --> 01:27:15.590
be no more than just, I don't know, an office

01:27:15.590 --> 01:27:18.250
block of people. Do you know what I mean? For

01:27:18.250 --> 01:27:20.510
how many of them exist? Maybe they cover the

01:27:20.510 --> 01:27:23.270
whole. galaxy somewhere you know just making

01:27:23.270 --> 01:27:26.270
up the problem is the way the film well although

01:27:26.270 --> 01:27:29.890
the film ends with the mnu being held to account

01:27:29.890 --> 01:27:31.850
for what they've been doing as the documentary

01:27:31.850 --> 01:27:33.770
kind of suggests yeah oh these people have now

01:27:33.770 --> 01:27:36.130
been arrested for the the the illegal operations

01:27:36.130 --> 01:27:38.949
they've been performing we know that technically

01:27:38.949 --> 01:27:41.829
you'll just end up with a sequel where they still

01:27:41.829 --> 01:27:43.869
had alien tech someone's going to have bought

01:27:43.869 --> 01:27:45.689
it someone's going to have dealt with it and

01:27:45.689 --> 01:27:48.470
that's it so you i do just think it's going to

01:27:48.470 --> 01:27:51.939
end up another being and an attack film it's

01:27:51.939 --> 01:27:53.960
not going to have the gritty documentary style

01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:56.899
and it's just going to be an excuse to finish

01:27:56.899 --> 01:28:00.939
the story now in 2009 neil blomkamp said i don't

01:28:00.939 --> 01:28:02.539
even know what the story would be i would love

01:28:02.539 --> 01:28:04.340
to do it but i don't know what the story would

01:28:04.340 --> 01:28:07.039
be i've not got anything written um and the last

01:28:07.039 --> 01:28:09.539
i've seen is like 2023 he said something while

01:28:09.539 --> 01:28:12.659
promoting gran turismo it's still something you'd

01:28:12.659 --> 01:28:14.100
like to do, but I don't know if it's going to

01:28:14.100 --> 01:28:16.359
happen. So I genuinely don't know what they do.

01:28:16.500 --> 01:28:18.319
I mean, you could even do a prequel. Why did

01:28:18.319 --> 01:28:20.720
they get there? That would be quite interesting.

01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:24.180
I think overall, I don't think it's a story that

01:28:24.180 --> 01:28:26.539
needs to be touched again. No, it doesn't. Just

01:28:26.539 --> 01:28:29.979
why can't we just leave it? I personally, I think

01:28:29.979 --> 01:28:33.100
that's 2009 me would never have said that. Me

01:28:33.100 --> 01:28:35.800
now having rewatched it and actually tried to

01:28:35.800 --> 01:28:39.460
put a kind of looking glass to it and gone, let's

01:28:39.460 --> 01:28:42.520
inspect this a little bit deeper. It doesn't

01:28:42.520 --> 01:28:46.300
need a sequel. The only thing it needed, I think,

01:28:46.300 --> 01:28:50.439
was a bit more humanity to actually make you

01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:55.779
want success for Vickers. I know the idea is

01:28:55.779 --> 01:28:57.239
by the end of it, you want success for the two

01:28:57.239 --> 01:29:01.659
aliens. Yeah. But it had lost me by that point.

01:29:01.979 --> 01:29:04.640
It had lost me. And I'm disappointed to say that

01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:06.960
because I have very fond memories of seeing it

01:29:06.960 --> 01:29:10.590
at the cinema. I'm really enjoying it. Yeah,

01:29:10.590 --> 01:29:15.010
it's too jarring. Too jarring for me to properly

01:29:15.010 --> 01:29:17.109
enjoy, I think. Well, there we are, District

01:29:17.109 --> 01:29:20.890
9. I still liked it. You don't like it anymore.

01:29:21.189 --> 01:29:24.029
To put it as short and concise as we can say.

01:29:24.270 --> 01:29:25.789
Yeah, no, you know, I think that's absolutely

01:29:25.789 --> 01:29:29.289
fair. I think I would have to stick with I don't

01:29:29.289 --> 01:29:32.649
think I enjoy it anymore. I think, yeah, I think

01:29:32.649 --> 01:29:34.729
that people should re -watch it and see if their

01:29:34.729 --> 01:29:36.409
tastes have changed on it. I would say that.

01:29:36.430 --> 01:29:37.890
Oh, I would love that. It's not even, oh, I know

01:29:37.890 --> 01:29:39.130
you're saying you don't like it. I think you

01:29:39.130 --> 01:29:41.050
would still agree and say, no, re -watch it and

01:29:41.050 --> 01:29:43.890
see if you change too. Oh, 100%. I would say

01:29:43.890 --> 01:29:46.050
re -watch it and then feedback to us as well

01:29:46.050 --> 01:29:48.229
and say, if you really enjoyed it the first time

01:29:48.229 --> 01:29:50.350
you watched it, re -watch it now and see what

01:29:50.350 --> 01:29:53.970
do you think? Has the world tainted you so it's

01:29:53.970 --> 01:29:56.750
no longer as enjoyable? Or is it just that as

01:29:56.750 --> 01:29:58.390
you've got older, you've realised actually the

01:29:58.390 --> 01:30:01.449
characterisations are... are not what they could

01:30:01.449 --> 01:30:03.130
have been. I'll tell you what did fuck me up

01:30:03.130 --> 01:30:04.689
when he's pulling his fucking fingernails off.

01:30:04.869 --> 01:30:16.270
Oh. Oh, God. Transfer complete. Untitled roulette.

01:30:17.170 --> 01:30:22.670
Let's spin that wheel. Here we go. It's spinning.

01:30:22.810 --> 01:30:29.220
It's spinning. And we have... Ooh. it's an old

01:30:29.220 --> 01:30:35.439
film okay good 1935 right 1935 that's right make

01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:38.979
a note come on in what is it bride of frankenstein

01:30:38.979 --> 01:30:46.800
oh cool okay okay bride of frankenstein 1935

01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:52.260
and it is available to buy or rent Okay, that's

01:30:52.260 --> 01:30:54.699
fine. So we can either buy it or rent it or no

01:30:54.699 --> 01:30:58.659
doubt find it somewhere. I would imagine if I

01:30:58.659 --> 01:31:06.220
quickly look up on Bride of Frankenstein 1935

01:31:06.220 --> 01:31:13.180
and the answer is always buy or rent on YouTube.

01:31:13.859 --> 01:31:17.420
Is the full film going to be on there? I'd be

01:31:17.420 --> 01:31:19.439
surprised if it isn't. But either way, we'll

01:31:19.439 --> 01:31:21.159
find a way you can watch it. You might just have

01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:24.619
to rent it for £3, but either way, it'll be well

01:31:24.619 --> 01:31:29.000
worth it, I would imagine. Cool. Ride a Frankenstein.

01:31:31.819 --> 01:31:36.460
Command functions are offline. That's it. Thank

01:31:36.460 --> 01:31:39.220
you very much, Tom. Thank you, darling. You all

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01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:56.979
up with a streaming schedule once we've got it

01:32:56.979 --> 01:32:59.960
all figured out but yeah it's still at the moment

01:32:59.960 --> 01:33:01.739
it's still kind of whenever we just decide to

01:33:01.739 --> 01:33:04.399
do it isn't it yeah pretty much stuff it's just

01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:06.380
a bit of fun for us really a little extra bit

01:33:06.380 --> 01:33:09.569
just to have things out there yeah i mean as

01:33:09.569 --> 01:33:11.829
our kids grow up we probably will start to do

01:33:11.829 --> 01:33:14.430
a bit more um we've obviously got all the kit

01:33:14.430 --> 01:33:16.369
for her now we've got two nice cameras to do

01:33:16.369 --> 01:33:19.130
it all with i'm trying to do more tiktok videos

01:33:19.130 --> 01:33:22.949
as well with uh is it a scam or a slam for example

01:33:22.949 --> 01:33:24.909
which i must bring you that pillow speaker at

01:33:24.909 --> 01:33:28.149
some point for you to test yeah um and we must

01:33:28.149 --> 01:33:30.470
do the hot chocolate maker video we've been planning

01:33:30.470 --> 01:33:34.750
yes yeah we've got our little velvetizers really

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aren't they is that what they're called yes people

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make The hot chocolate is out of different chocolate

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bars. And we must come up with a sequel to Seed

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at some point that isn't involving me eating

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cum -covered biscuits. Yeah, we'll do it when

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the weather's a bit better. We'll get SideQuest

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back to do some filming for us. I'm sure we could

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have a sequel to Seed. I think we need one, even

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though it's probably the lowest viewed video

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in all time on YouTube. It deserves better. I

01:34:03.460 --> 01:34:06.180
think if there was a way that we could get more

01:34:06.180 --> 01:34:09.039
people to see it. I think it would explode. I

01:34:09.039 --> 01:34:11.739
think it would be well received because I have

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two horns. I think that's quite good. Even the

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one that we did for Cheap Show. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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As much as it's stomach churning, I think it

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was brilliant. It's got an audience, I think.

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There's got to be more people who have our sense

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of humor. There's got to be. Right. Anyway, thank

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you very much, mate. Oh, he's coughing. Thank

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