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he's ready for me. I'm always ready. Hello, sunshine.

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Oh, treacle. How you doing, my motherfucker?

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Oh, I'm not bad, mate. I'm not bad. You'd go

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the whole episode like this, son. Oh, mate, we

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could do, couldn't we? Back in the old days,

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back when I was a kid. So, we're in Casa Del

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James today. We are, we are indeed. Thank you

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for readjusting your recording for me. Oh, thank

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you and your lovely wife for looking after my

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spawn of the day. Well, jem did most of it and

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she was fantastic i didn't hear a peep out of

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them they did brilliantly i got a great video

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sent to me have you seen it uh i've not seen

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the poo video yet no like what so your boy's

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got a weird poo toy or something yeah well you

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know i bought your boy the splat gorilla yeah

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which is still in the living room still gets

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played with constantly by everyone that comes

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in the house because it's genius even the adults

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live just chuck it it's just such a Perfect sound

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when it slams into the ground and how it deforms.

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Anyway, it's a big squishy poo, like those squishy

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toys you can buy, kind of stress relievers, but

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just a gigantic poo one. Does it make a noise

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or did my boy make the noise? Did T make the

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noise? oh you haven't seen the video i haven't

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seen the video but is it just that big brown

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poo yeah he would have made the noise then okay

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yes he had it between his legs and then you hear

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and it drops on the floor and then you can hear

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jem going oh you've pooed and he picks up and

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cuddles it and smiles he goes oh don't cuddle

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the poo oh welcome to the house where poo is

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funny yeah well this poo's always funny oh 100

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as long as it's not on your fingers it's funny

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Have you seen those videos where people play

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pranks on their kids and they ask them to go

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get the toilet roll, but then they've put Nutella

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on their fingers. And then when the kid runs

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in with a loo roll, they wipe the Nutella on

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the hand of the kid as he passes them the loo

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roll. Oh, no. I wouldn't do those jokes to a

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kid. I'd do it to you. Yeah. I'd never do it

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to a kid. I don't like adults playing pranks

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on kids. I don't think it's right because they

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can really feel like. Maybe I'm just a bit empathetic.

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That's where trauma begins. That's how you get

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brought up in their psychiatry sessions. So before

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we get into it, I watched a TikTok earlier and

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it was a clip of someone in the Winter Olympics

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at a press conference. Have you seen this? No,

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I've not seen this. So this was today. They supplied

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the athletes with 10 ,000 condoms. They've run

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out. Yeah, you know what? They've been there

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three days. We're going to start doing some maths,

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right? They've been there three days. There's

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2 ,800 of them. Now, let's think about this.

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That's one condom per pair. So 1 ,400 couples

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over three days are having, what, sex three times

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a day? 10 ,000 condoms divided by, let's say

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they've coupled up. Yeah, so 1 ,400. Divided

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by 1 ,400. So that's 7 .14 condoms per person.

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Per couple. Then divided by three days. So they've

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gone through nearly two and a half condoms a

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day as a couple. As a couple, yeah. Wow. Yeah.

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Yeah. Okay. Now, someone posted on TikTok and

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said, do you remember the cardboard bed fiasco

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for the Olympics? And that was done because apparently

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the Olympic village is just hookup central. They

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didn't get given cardboard boxes at the Winter

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Olympics. They showed videos of all the athletes

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going in, trepidatiously walking up to the beds

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going, is it a real bed? It's a real mattress.

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Now I know why they were so excited. When you

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think like, oh, they're going away, you know,

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but they're not going away with their partners.

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They're going into the bit. I'm pretty sure you're

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only meant to be the only Olympians go in the

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Olympian bit. It's Olympians, trainers, and employees.

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They're all just fucking each other. It's just

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a big, big sex dump. That's assuming that they're

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all using the condoms for actual fucking. well

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yeah it was kind of implied well maybe they're

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just messing around with him and stuff you know

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or maybe there's one guy just wanking into it

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all right maybe they're doing that okay but to

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be fair think they're mainly young people and

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if you're told there are 10 000 condoms what's

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the first thing that i'll hold my head up to

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this mostly men will say How quickly can we get

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through 10 ,000 condoms? Not necessarily through

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sex. It'll just be how many can we get through

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doing things with them? Right, I've got one in

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my head. We've got water bombs. Yeah, but they're

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not that young. You know, you get the odd one

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that's like a snowboarder that's like 16 or something.

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But the others are like in their 20s. And? I

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mean, I wasn't pinning Johnnies on my head ever.

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No, I've never done it, but I'm just saying.

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I think 10 ,000 probably disappeared very quickly

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when people realised we've got 10 ,000 to burn

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through. What can we do with them? Enter authorization

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code. Right, guess the intro. Guess the intro.

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We had no entries. Really? Absolutely no one

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sent me anything. If they have, I haven't seen

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it. There were two I couldn't get. Okay. Well,

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there's two that I might have got, but purely

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spending a long time pumping it into Google,

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listening back to write exactly the right thing.

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So I'm not even going to say them because I think,

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you know what, I spent way too long doing that.

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So there's no way that I got those fairly, but

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four of them I'm pretty sure I got. Well, should

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we start with one then? Oh, go on then. Godspeed,

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the whales are running. Godspeed, the whales

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are running. Godspeed, the whales are running.

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They're lying no more. This is sci -fi. So this

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is the one that I cheated on by basically just

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doing heavily research. And that's, I think,

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DSV? It is Sequest, Sequest DSV. Which I used

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to watch on a Saturday afternoon. It used to

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be Saturday Afternoon TV on, I want to say, Channel

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4. And I think I watched a fair bit of it because

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I used to be at the shop with mum and dad. So

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we had nothing else to do. So once I'd walked

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around town several times and done, done bits

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and pieces like that, there wasn't much else

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to do. So we'd go back and I'd just sit and watch

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the TV in the shop, in the back room of the shop

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until we packed up to go home. So yeah, I've

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watched a fair few, but didn't tell you any real

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memory. Never watched it. I only ever heard of

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it because the, I used to tell him he can't see.

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I've said this before because he would go on

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about a dolphin being on there. So it was Deep

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Sea, is it DSV Quest or Deep Sea Vehicle Quest?

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I've got Sea Quest DSV. Sorry, Sea Quest DSV,

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Deep Sea Vehicle, which at some point they basically

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went, how can we jump the shark on this? Okay,

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Sea Quest, and it ends up in space. So it becomes

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Deep Space Vehicle. Either way, it doesn't look

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very good. I've never actually watched it. It's

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of its time, I reckon. Of its time. I think that's

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the only way you can get around it. Well, we'll

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never get it. Now that we've been able to orbit

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Venus, we're a lot closer to our ultimate goal,

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Mars. Now we've been able to orbit Venus. Now

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do you recognise the person? We're much closer

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to orbiting my penis. Do you recognise him? Oh,

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yeah, it's William Shatner in It's the Outer

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Limits. It's the Outer Limits. I was hoping people

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might get tripped up I watched the episode literally

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after the fact that two episodes ago James had

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said about it then we missed it in the last episode

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for whatever reason that we weren't talking about

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so I did go and watch clips of it and yeah that

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was the clip I'd seen well done Parker thank

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you madam oh my lady Home, Parker. Sorry, everyone.

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That's an easy one. Oh, I know it is. It's Thunderbirds.

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Parker, come in the back of the car with me,

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Parker. Parker, slow down for me, Parker. Park

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up for me, Parker. This is a nice little area.

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Is that your machine gun poking out? Turn left

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at the dogging park, Parker. Parker, I'm going

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to Tracy Island to see the boys. Again. Again.

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Again, my lady. Yes, we've got to go through

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those 10 ,000 Johnnies. Next one. You've done

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a lot of good, Sam Beckett. And you can do a

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lot more. That was a huge giveaway straight away,

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that one. So that's good old Quantum Leap. It's

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Quantum Leap. Brilliant series until probably

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the last series. And even they jumped the shark

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when they made him a monkey in one episode. Yeah,

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there's another episode that's a bit dodgy. There's

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a few. Oh, yes. Yeah, next. Words will always

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retain their power. That one, again, was the

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one I cheated on. I made it short because I thought

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it was too obvious. I've never seen V for Vendetta.

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That's it, V for Vendetta. V for Vendetta. I've

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never seen it. It's not one I've seen. Great

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film. People lured it up, you know, and they're

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going around wearing the masks like they're fucking

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idiots. But it is a good film. Okay. Let's go.

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And the last one, which I'm surprised you didn't

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get. No, this one I got. So what were the two

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you didn't know then? The first one, DSV, and

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the vendetta. Well, yeah, but only with such

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ease. One of my favourite comedy series to ever

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come out, Third Rock from the Sun. Yeah, I put

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that in for you. It's absolutely fantastic. I

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grew up in that era of BBC Two Thursday night

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was comedy night. And if it wasn't The Far Show,

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it was Harry Enfield. If it wasn't Harry Enfield,

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then it was Third Rock from the Sun. And mum

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and dad used to call it, you'd be on at 9pm,

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and mum and dad would call us out at Third Rock's

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on, and we'd come down, we would watch it as

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a fam. It was just a brilliant show. Again, got

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rapey towards the end, but... ultimately it's

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brilliant so peep behind the curtains of my editing

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there are two singing ones of this because i'd

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planned to do a whole kind of like radio dial

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changing and skipping in and out and i did it

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and it didn't quite sound very good and kind

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of didn't go with the whole interest i was like

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okay so i'll go scratch it's been a long time

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on it but really the software i use to get these

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clips stop working yes you said so you know you

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said this to me you did warn me about this that

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they give you the lifetime code for 10 quid or

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whatever and then they update the software and

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say oh if you want to use a new software you're

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gonna have to pay because your one's for the

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old software so they got me with that so okay

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so i rolled it back which was very very difficult

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to do and when i rolled it every time you wrote

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it back it forced an update so you had to do

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it get in there quick and cancel the update but

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then when you roll it back that version don't

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work Nope, because YouTube keeps on fixing how

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these people are doing it. Yeah. So now I can't

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use the software anymore because I'm refusing

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to give them more money. Ute, which is where

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you just remove UBE from the URL. Yeah. They

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are now one every 24 hours. So it took me just

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as long to do that Guesty intro as it did the

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entire edit for the rest. So I would say you

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can't. necessarily i know the company that did

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the software is doing everyone dirty by doing

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that but really the people that are causing the

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problem and again we can't really say they're

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causing a problem they are protecting what is

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basically theft yeah and that's youtube and they've

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been in the news last week they finally patched

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an error or an issue that allowed android users

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who weren't paying for premium to keep running

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youtube in the background from browser i did

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that for a Brave browser basically put a comment

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under their comment on Twitter and went, yeah,

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don't worry, we've already fixed it and it's

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working again for us. I had an app that literally

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just turned your screen off. So it wasn't so

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much that I had to go, I could run YouTube and

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then I just click this little other icon and

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just screen blanked and that was it. And that's

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what I used. But then that app stopped working

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on its own. It wouldn't do work ever after a

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Google update. Of course. And then I was like,

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I just didn't bother anymore. Now I happen to

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have premium because I don't like adverts. No,

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of course. That was it for me. I gave up looking

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at shit like that because actually it was the

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adverts. It was the fact that you'd lose two

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or three minutes of video just due to fucking

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adverts. It annoys me. Because all the family

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plans were going off onto other things. Who cares?

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You know, brand uses it too. And my dad. is like

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me basically watches 99 of this stuff is youtube

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and he's constantly complaining to him it's like

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i want to watch like something that's half an

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hour long i've got to watch 10 minutes of ads

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yep so now i've got him on the family thing so

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he's like it's like it's life -changing to him

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because it's like he watches so much and youtube

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are bastards because they don't they allow people

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to do their own ads and sort out what they are

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and the ads that you get in videos aren't necessarily

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ads by big brands. They can be from other YouTubers.

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And I've noticed there's other YouTubers who

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have literally made the ad their entire 15 -minute

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video. What? So you can go into YouTube AdWords

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and set your video as an ad. So you set your

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whole 15 -minute video as an ad. And if you don't

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click the skip button... It's just a whole ad.

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It will play the whole 15 -minute video. And

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some people won't notice. No, because it's just

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running in the background. Yeah, then that starts

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running and they get a whole play out of it.

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It's because it's autoplay and people falling

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asleep, isn't it? Exactly. Yeah. Star Trek? Yeah,

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let's talk Star Trek. Okay, so where we left

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off, we'd both seen episode one, excuse me, one,

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two and three. So you've now, I'd watched four

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at the time you hadn't seen it and I've watched

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five. It's been a little bit of a while ago now

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since I've seen four, so I might have to be reminded,

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but you've now up to four and five. Six is out,

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neither of us have seen it. Correct. Well, I've

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started watching six and I thought, no, I'm going

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to stop and we'll come back to it. I'm interested

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in what's going on with six because the guy we

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spoke about last time, I saw he put a YouTube

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video, I forgot his name now, sorry, but it looks

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like he doesn't like it. Which I'm surprised

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about. But I haven't actually watched his video.

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The bit that I've watched so far. is pretty strong

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okay so maybe i'm just reading the title of his

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video wrong but i haven't watched his video because

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i want to watch the episode well i mean don't

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get me wrong the hate is still out there for

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it there's a lot of people that don't like this

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show and dare i say is all the diehard fans which

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is really annoying um i accept i was one of them

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but i've also accepted that you know what as

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many as much as this show has its flaws It's

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a perfectly enjoyable thing. And actually, having

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watched these last two episodes, it has done

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things that Discovery attempted and actually

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pulled it off. They've probably learned from

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Discovery. The thing is, right, you and me love

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Star Trek and we want new Star Trek. And if this

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is the only new Star Trek we're going to get,

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well, we're just going to have to put up with

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it for now. It's all right saying, you know,

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don't watch it. But we want some Star Trek. And

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it does have redeeming features. Yeah, absolutely.

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I've enjoyed every episode. Okay, look. Episode

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5, there are going to be spoilers here, is the

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main character is Sam through the whole thing.

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My least favourite character. Correct. I hated

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the first... 10 minutes of this episode i was

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like i'm gonna really hate this i didn't like

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how it's filmed all the weird kind of things

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that were coming up like oh i'm sam and i'm this

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and it would cut to like this is my friend and

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he'd like a pause and do it and the name would

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come up all this fashion and i was like i really

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don't like this correct i spent the first five

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minutes thinking i'm not gonna get on with this

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this is could this be where i pull the plug and

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actually it pulled it back it was so much better

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episode than the episode prior and i actually

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quite enjoyed the episode prior to it because

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it was actually a really strong emotional message

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to it that was done very very well and this is

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what i'm saying about it doing things better

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than discovery what discovery would have had

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is someone literally facing the camera telling

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you these are bad things and we shouldn't do

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bad things and bad things are bad and they This

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had some subtlety to it and actually made you

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care about the storyline from within it. And

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although it was a bit of a silly ending with

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the fake fight with the Klingons to make them

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think that, okay, well, we've won this planet

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in battle. Actually, not the worst idea. The

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thing is as well about that, though, is that

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like that male, that main male Klingon, he knew

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what was happening. Absolutely. You know, he

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knew. You could just tell. I'd like to say the

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captain is growing on me in the last two episodes.

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Well, this is this is where I'm I'm I came off

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the last episode. I know you weren't in agreement,

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but I just feel like she's been through so much

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shit in her life that now there's this fresh

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thing. She wants people to see that actually.

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We shouldn't be. And some of the problems that

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Starfleet had was this stuck up, perfectly ironed

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collars. That line of management and thing wasn't

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working. And that's why it didn't work. And that's

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why Starfleet failed in the first place. What

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they need is people to be human. They need people

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to be. Yeah. Show humanity, show caring, show

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kindness. It's the little things that I don't

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like. For example, they go in that slowest turbo

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lift I've ever seen in the world. Her and the

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needle in the wall thing. And what she does,

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she kind of quickly nips in and dives and lies

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down on the sofa. The lying on the sofa is good.

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How she got onto it, how she acts, that I don't

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like. I feel like if she got onto the sofa, talked

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a bit and just gone, and then laid down and just

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got a bit more nonchalant about it because she

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was just comfortable. That would have felt better

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to me than her running in, quickly going down

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and being a cheeky little fun silliness. I don't

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think the cheeky fun silliness would actually

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come with the age. I think more it'd just be

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the not worrying about displaying that she's

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bored or whatever. But I would say, you know

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what? You only see that, if you notice, you only

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see it when she's around other authoritarian

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people. adults basically when she's around the

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cadets if you notice she is far stricter she

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is there are rules i can't break the rules and

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she actually acts in a much more appropriate

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manner yeah but when she's with her technically

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her crew on the ship for example they're adults

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and she understands that actually i need my management

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i need them to feel comfortable around me so

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i i kind of get it i do get it and i know that

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she's also still does the whole You've got the

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whole prank war thing from the episode three

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we saw. She's winding the war guy up. Yeah, absolutely.

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Having fun with him. She's having fun with the

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students, but also letting them know we need

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to be somewhat professional in this kind of...

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I do like, I'm getting to like her a lot more.

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One of my favourite scenes so far that hasn't

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involved the lady who's the Klingon and whatever.

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oh yeah yeah because normally whenever she's

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on the screen i'm in love with it as i said before

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the character who i thought i was gonna hate

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the most is my favorite character um they are

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the war guy has to like learn how to do a meal.

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They're doing the meal. That is such a funny

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scene. Because you've got the doctor. The doctor's

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like, we are doing this properly. Why are you

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all fucking about? So you've got the war guy

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who's really awkward. You've got the captain

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who's just being a little bit... She's being

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silly, but also acting the role she's meant to,

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but a bit tongue -in -cheek. You've got the doctor

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being the doctor. And then you've got... I can

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never remember their name. Tig. Tig. The actress.

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Tig being like... why did you ask me of all people

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to come here because she's like literally yeah

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reading from a script there's a brief where she

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literally says oh thank goodness i'm a really

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good comedian she just says it so plainly it's

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like yes i love it it was a good scene and you

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know credit where credit's due i was laughing

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i had a great time every time that scene came

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up and they had to play music do music or something

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plays flute which he finally laughs about in

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the uh turbo lift um and then the fish makes

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it it was the fish it was the fish honest Yeah,

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it's a good scene. The Sam episode was actually

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the stronger of the two. I liked the one about

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Klingon. The fact that you find out that, yes,

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he lost his family. They actually just left him

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behind. Yeah, that's sad. And he feels that actually

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they just abandoned him because he's a wimp.

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He's never going to be a warrior. And that's

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why they dumped him and they blame him for his

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brother. When realistically, as we then find

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out from the Jem 'Hadar, Klingon crosses like,

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no, they let you go. to be you yeah they did

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it because they realized that is what you need

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to do yeah they were doing the best thing they

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could the best thing that dad could do being

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the stubborn war cling on that he is absolutely

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the only way he knew how to do it was to just

00:23:01.579 --> 00:23:03.779
dump you there and then he gets the you know

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he gets the resolution at the end he gets the

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the bow you know yeah yeah yeah and you know

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the warrior stew you kind of assume that his

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parents And family are now going to be lauded

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with a big respect because it's their son that

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got them this planet. It was their son's negotiation

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skills and non -normal Klingon behaviour that

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got them in a position that they could now be

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on their own world. Now, I'm going to float this

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now because I reckon this is exactly what they're

00:23:34.289 --> 00:23:37.910
planning on doing. Mia, as in literally the main

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character, whatever his name is. Right, yeah.

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Jim Bob. Jim Bob, Dave Bob. Yep. They are blatantly

00:23:48.490 --> 00:23:52.390
just lining him up to be, he's our version of

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Kirk. You reckon? Oh, absolutely. He cheats,

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he gambles, he mucks about. He, after accepting

00:24:02.650 --> 00:24:05.289
he's going to be in Starfleet, is going to be

00:24:05.289 --> 00:24:08.089
the best out of all of them and not lose. He's

00:24:08.089 --> 00:24:10.089
good at everything as well. Well, and it's not,

00:24:10.210 --> 00:24:12.940
he's, oh. When you're born like this, blah, blah,

00:24:12.940 --> 00:24:14.940
blah, and you live on whatever, that's what makes

00:24:14.940 --> 00:24:17.000
you good at debates are just arguments, blah,

00:24:17.099 --> 00:24:19.579
blah, blah. It's not. He went away and researched

00:24:19.579 --> 00:24:21.779
it all. And that was the whole Kirk thing. Now,

00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.140
spoiler warning for the episode you've not started.

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Kobayashi Maru. That is exactly what they're

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doing. Just an actual doing it in real life rather

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than with a simulator. And it's not the Kobayashi

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Maru. It's their own thing. And within minutes,

00:24:38.220 --> 00:24:41.150
he's cheated. Okay. Which is exactly what Kirk

00:24:41.150 --> 00:24:43.750
does. And as you find out in the films, he's

00:24:43.750 --> 00:24:46.109
the only cadet that ever solved the Kobayashi

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Maru. How did he do it? He cheated. So it's...

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That's how the film starts, is in Tribunal, isn't

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he? One of the films? What, the modern films

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or the... One of the modern films, doesn't it

00:24:57.630 --> 00:25:01.250
start with him in a tribunal? The whole first

00:25:01.250 --> 00:25:05.289
Star Trek film that was Mr. I Like Lens Flare.

00:25:06.049 --> 00:25:08.980
Pretty much the whole basis of that is... kirk

00:25:08.980 --> 00:25:11.779
doesn't want to go to the um academy goes to

00:25:11.779 --> 00:25:14.220
the academy cheats the kobayashi maru gets told

00:25:14.220 --> 00:25:16.579
well you can't go on a starship then shit got

00:25:16.579 --> 00:25:20.160
starts going wrong and he sneaks on so that that

00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:21.819
is basically the premise of that beginning bit

00:25:21.819 --> 00:25:24.259
but um that i feel like they're just setting

00:25:24.259 --> 00:25:26.259
him up to kind of be the next kind of he's going

00:25:26.259 --> 00:25:28.519
to be the next kirk sort of character that they're

00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:32.819
going to have um yeah as i the klingon episode

00:25:32.819 --> 00:25:38.890
strong good storyline my issue is is do we need

00:25:38.890 --> 00:25:42.289
an episode per character no i've never liked

00:25:42.289 --> 00:25:44.190
it when a series does that if we don't need that

00:25:44.190 --> 00:25:46.829
because you run out of episodes and then all

00:25:46.829 --> 00:25:50.069
you've had is these these stories i want decent

00:25:50.069 --> 00:25:53.869
ongoing story i don't need exposition that takes

00:25:53.869 --> 00:25:56.109
a whole episode to learn why the klingon is sad

00:25:56.109 --> 00:25:58.349
i don't need the whole episode to work out why

00:25:58.349 --> 00:26:01.450
sam is like she is as much as that episode was

00:26:01.450 --> 00:26:03.910
really good and you really feel for her with

00:26:03.910 --> 00:26:06.799
the fact that she's being told well if you can't

00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:08.660
do these things immediately then you're going

00:26:08.660 --> 00:26:11.400
to come home and basically become at one again

00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.619
that's shitty i don't like that no one would

00:26:15.619 --> 00:26:17.680
like that so you kind of do feel for her in that

00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.140
moment one thing that really bugged me though

00:26:20.140 --> 00:26:24.940
one really big she's been sent there to feedback

00:26:24.940 --> 00:26:29.500
about the organics and she says about everything

00:26:29.500 --> 00:26:31.980
about love life laughter everything like that

00:26:31.980 --> 00:26:34.019
we've got to learn about them so we can understand

00:26:34.019 --> 00:26:35.700
whether they can be trusted now because of what

00:26:35.700 --> 00:26:39.059
happened in the past why is she crying then because

00:26:39.059 --> 00:26:41.000
if she's having to feed back to all these organic

00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.980
to the people that made her which however many

00:26:44.980 --> 00:26:48.099
weeks ago she said it was who basically say they

00:26:48.099 --> 00:26:50.559
don't fully understand organics emotions or any

00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:52.299
of that that's what they need her to feed back

00:26:52.299 --> 00:26:55.910
why she got emotions maybe they knew how to program

00:26:55.910 --> 00:26:58.910
it in but didn't understand that's yeah it's

00:26:58.910 --> 00:27:01.410
just a bit of an odd one if you're sending some

00:27:01.410 --> 00:27:04.569
what would have been better is but i don't think

00:27:04.569 --> 00:27:07.990
they would have got the audience that they wanted

00:27:07.990 --> 00:27:11.450
from that particular character is if she'd come

00:27:11.450 --> 00:27:17.230
in almost data like yeah very much monotone not

00:27:17.230 --> 00:27:20.190
really understanding and sticking like that but

00:27:20.190 --> 00:27:23.970
then after this episode start showing signs of

00:27:23.970 --> 00:27:26.809
things like rebellion and start showing emotion

00:27:26.809 --> 00:27:29.930
showing oh hang on pro like the like the doctor

00:27:29.930 --> 00:27:32.750
like the dots throughout voyager doctor in the

00:27:32.750 --> 00:27:35.609
beginning dots by the end emotional growth has

00:27:35.609 --> 00:27:37.529
occurred shouldn't be possible because he's a

00:27:37.529 --> 00:27:40.690
hologram but it has yeah that's what we needed

00:27:40.690 --> 00:27:43.369
from sam i think really for her not to be as

00:27:43.369 --> 00:27:47.390
for us annoying now i know there's a lot of people

00:27:47.390 --> 00:27:48.950
that think actually she's not annoying at all

00:27:48.950 --> 00:27:51.859
she's fantastic And I'll say, that episode is

00:27:51.859 --> 00:27:53.980
brilliant. Really, really good. It's made me

00:27:53.980 --> 00:27:57.240
see it in completely different lights. Still

00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.380
not my favourite characters. Yeah. It was a nice

00:28:00.380 --> 00:28:03.339
love letter to Deep Space Nine. Oh, very, very

00:28:03.339 --> 00:28:05.940
lovely. Quickly back to that. I called the relationship

00:28:05.940 --> 00:28:09.259
with Klingon. Didn't I? Saying it would be the

00:28:09.259 --> 00:28:11.240
guy from the war. But now that actually he's

00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:12.839
pulling that other guy in, it's almost like a

00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:14.940
little love triangle of all these dudes. It's

00:28:14.940 --> 00:28:18.539
interesting. I'm not interested in it, but it's

00:28:18.539 --> 00:28:22.980
interesting they're doing it. What I thought

00:28:22.980 --> 00:28:28.599
was not so good about Sam's episode was, yes,

00:28:28.740 --> 00:28:33.799
we get it. Dax, we see it. They really fucking

00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:35.980
hammered it home who she was in the last one.

00:28:36.019 --> 00:28:38.880
They could have just left it with the true marks

00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.880
and that was it. You didn't need your Dax. Yes,

00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.609
I am. cisco would have yeah that was too much

00:28:45.609 --> 00:28:48.630
you just ruined it you just needed that glance

00:28:48.630 --> 00:28:51.250
of holy shit is that what i literally think and

00:28:51.250 --> 00:28:54.390
let your own mind join the dots and go how it

00:28:54.390 --> 00:28:57.650
couldn't be yeah yeah that's it that's what i

00:28:57.650 --> 00:28:59.069
mean if you've got an imdb it literally says

00:28:59.069 --> 00:29:02.170
anyway but okay but then you would go to imdb

00:29:02.170 --> 00:29:04.930
to find that you know and be like oh my god even

00:29:04.930 --> 00:29:09.230
better way to have done it she would have escorted

00:29:09.230 --> 00:29:12.670
sam out of the classroom brushed her hair as

00:29:12.670 --> 00:29:15.549
she walked past, and Sam would have seen the

00:29:15.549 --> 00:29:17.529
trill marks, and as the camera passed by that,

00:29:17.730 --> 00:29:21.349
the doors closed behind, Dax on the door, or

00:29:21.349 --> 00:29:25.130
Lectra, something Dax. Yeah. And then black screen.

00:29:25.349 --> 00:29:27.470
Yeah, that's it, yeah. That's all you needed

00:29:27.470 --> 00:29:29.609
to do. Yeah, it didn't need to be so fucking

00:29:29.609 --> 00:29:33.170
force -fed, you know. I had something I was going

00:29:33.170 --> 00:29:36.549
to say about it as well. Ah, the actress who

00:29:36.549 --> 00:29:39.369
plays that character. Oh, yeah. Do you not know

00:29:39.369 --> 00:29:43.609
who she was? No. She's the voice of Lower Decks.

00:29:44.150 --> 00:29:46.130
She's the woman in Lower Decks. Oh, she's Mariner?

00:29:46.369 --> 00:29:49.750
Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, okay. Because I was

00:29:49.750 --> 00:29:52.549
watching and thinking, the reason I went on INDB,

00:29:52.730 --> 00:29:54.970
and that's because I knew it was Dax before the

00:29:54.970 --> 00:29:57.849
thing came out because I'd seen INDB. Right,

00:29:57.849 --> 00:30:00.049
gotcha. So I got to have that moment of going,

00:30:00.150 --> 00:30:04.789
oh, it's Dax. Of course. Which is a better feeling

00:30:04.789 --> 00:30:07.130
than I would have got had I'd seen how they gave

00:30:07.130 --> 00:30:11.839
it away. One, really cool. Two. the burn doesn't

00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:13.759
seem to have taken out many people that really

00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:16.880
matters in the star trek universe yeah yeah it

00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:19.940
was um yeah so because i was looking at thinking

00:30:19.940 --> 00:30:22.460
i recognize her why do i recognize even with

00:30:22.460 --> 00:30:23.819
all that makeup was like there's something about

00:30:23.819 --> 00:30:26.519
her that i recognize and then yeah yeah you know

00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.589
you've said it I see it. Yeah, no, fair play.

00:30:29.809 --> 00:30:32.170
But anyway, yeah, four and five, good again.

00:30:32.289 --> 00:30:34.829
I actually ended up preferring five, even though

00:30:34.829 --> 00:30:37.109
I hated the start of it. I actually really liked

00:30:37.109 --> 00:30:39.190
it by the end because they did kind of give up

00:30:39.190 --> 00:30:41.809
on some of the other bits. I enjoyed her. She

00:30:41.809 --> 00:30:45.109
was very welcoming to being hacked by Jim Bob.

00:30:45.309 --> 00:30:47.170
That was very funny. She was very much like,

00:30:47.210 --> 00:30:48.190
yeah, go for it. That was very funny. He's like,

00:30:48.269 --> 00:30:49.789
yeah, go for it. And then just him getting here

00:30:49.789 --> 00:30:52.369
was like, can I say this back to my room and

00:30:52.369 --> 00:30:55.809
work on it? Yeah. I liked how she was just so

00:30:55.809 --> 00:30:57.920
just like, yeah, okay. You can just completely

00:30:57.920 --> 00:30:59.619
go into all of my programming. But that's what

00:30:59.619 --> 00:31:01.259
you wanted. And it's like I was saying about

00:31:01.259 --> 00:31:03.460
the whole data style of how she could have done

00:31:03.460 --> 00:31:06.619
it. That's perfect. She's meant to be this kind

00:31:06.619 --> 00:31:12.319
of blank slate of, okay, you're human. I'm organic.

00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:14.119
I'm trying to work out whether you can be trusted

00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.500
or not. Go for it. And she kept saying, are you

00:31:16.500 --> 00:31:18.220
going to make it so I can taste whatever the

00:31:18.220 --> 00:31:20.059
food was? I was like, no, I'm going to get drunk.

00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:21.420
Yeah, no, I'm going to make it so you can get

00:31:21.420 --> 00:31:25.089
drunk now. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it. Yeah. Oh,

00:31:25.109 --> 00:31:26.690
I don't know what to say, really. I'm looking

00:31:26.690 --> 00:31:29.069
forward to the next one. No, I am. And it's a

00:31:29.069 --> 00:31:32.089
good start. It might go downhill. There's still

00:31:32.089 --> 00:31:35.549
plenty of time. Oh, 100%. But we haven't had

00:31:35.549 --> 00:31:37.650
Fishboy's background still. We haven't had...

00:31:37.650 --> 00:31:41.650
No, we have had Fishboy. Fishboy's was... No,

00:31:41.650 --> 00:31:43.490
but he's not had a whole episode. I think that's

00:31:43.490 --> 00:31:44.690
all they'll give him. I hope that's all they'll

00:31:44.690 --> 00:31:45.509
give him because I don't actually like him. Oh,

00:31:45.509 --> 00:31:48.869
and you think the same for... funky eyebrow girl

00:31:48.869 --> 00:31:50.890
yeah it's i love how we know the character names

00:31:50.890 --> 00:31:53.170
for this i mean classic classic star trek geeks

00:31:53.170 --> 00:31:57.650
here mate um oh okay fair enough so that makes

00:31:57.650 --> 00:32:00.910
me think then obviously the klingon sam are probably

00:32:00.910 --> 00:32:03.009
more important characters than if they're getting

00:32:03.009 --> 00:32:05.529
this much exposition compared to the other two

00:32:05.529 --> 00:32:08.730
but they had nothing before that but klingon

00:32:08.730 --> 00:32:11.769
had nothing he was a real like bit character

00:32:11.769 --> 00:32:14.289
in the background with nothing yeah then they

00:32:14.289 --> 00:32:16.750
gave him an episode so now you give a shit about

00:32:16.750 --> 00:32:19.640
him But Sam just kind of, again, was comic relief.

00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:23.099
Now she's got something. Whereas fish boy, eyebrow

00:32:23.099 --> 00:32:26.240
girl have been in, out, in, out, in all the way

00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.059
through. But they're, they're a requirement.

00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:32.759
I think they are used as an episode as requires.

00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:37.619
Yeah. They're not, I wouldn't call them core

00:32:37.619 --> 00:32:44.759
characters. They are the backup to the core characters

00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:48.720
at the moment. I don't know yet, but they seem

00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:50.619
to be the ones that the main three characters

00:32:50.619 --> 00:32:53.180
do something, something happens. Those two then

00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:56.359
have to get involved to help resolve it. So it's

00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:59.440
almost like they're additional to the main, but

00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.839
they're not quite the main. Because Jim Bob is

00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.539
in all the time and in Aldi Troy, she's just

00:33:04.539 --> 00:33:07.099
kind of around whenever. Well, there's a whole

00:33:07.099 --> 00:33:09.299
thing on that one. And I literally, at the end

00:33:09.299 --> 00:33:14.759
of episode five, I almost text you this and said,

00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.940
I'm going to call it now. That blue -red dot

00:33:17.940 --> 00:33:20.759
on her neck, that's about because she can feel

00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.039
too much compared to a normal beta zone. I absolutely

00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.160
went, that is going to be one of the main story

00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:28.920
points in this. Hasn't it gone wrong already,

00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:33.779
though? It went red. It went red at one point,

00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:37.240
yes. And I've just got the horrible feeling they're

00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.359
going to use that as this big storyline of it's

00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:42.359
there because actually she's something like a

00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:47.809
world ender. When she was a child, she didn't

00:33:47.809 --> 00:33:52.150
have it, and she basically sent all these people

00:33:52.150 --> 00:33:54.769
absolutely insane. Yeah, bleeding from the eyes

00:33:54.769 --> 00:33:56.910
and stuff. Yeah, that sort of thing. I reckon

00:33:56.910 --> 00:33:59.130
that's going to be some sort of core storyline

00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:03.390
that will come into it. All right. That was Star

00:34:03.390 --> 00:34:12.300
Trek. What have you been up to? Nothing. Probably

00:34:12.300 --> 00:34:14.519
has been nothing. No, it's legit. I watched those

00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.619
two. We played a load more Hytale. Loads of Hytale.

00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:22.420
Which I've been really enjoying. I played a bit

00:34:22.420 --> 00:34:25.320
more Helldivers one evening on my own and it's

00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:28.260
just not as fun without anyone. When it first

00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:30.320
came out, I didn't mind doing the occasional

00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.420
kind of just clocking up the points, get my rank

00:34:33.420 --> 00:34:36.000
up a little bit, doing the bug planets and whatever

00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.920
on my own because you know what? It wasn't too

00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:41.849
bad. But... Now the game has got significantly

00:34:41.849 --> 00:34:44.389
harder and you've got these more interesting

00:34:44.389 --> 00:34:46.929
planetscapes and all of that. I've gone on it

00:34:46.929 --> 00:34:48.409
and it's like, no, it isn't the same without

00:34:48.409 --> 00:34:50.489
having a crew with you. Yeah, well, you can't

00:34:50.489 --> 00:34:53.349
do the CyberSan stuff on an easy difficulty.

00:34:53.869 --> 00:34:57.349
You have to do it on hardened. And that, I think,

00:34:57.389 --> 00:34:59.030
is pretty difficult on your own when you're a

00:34:59.030 --> 00:35:02.869
bit rusty like we are. Well, and especially since

00:35:02.869 --> 00:35:08.059
I don't think they really rolled back. the difficulty

00:35:08.059 --> 00:35:10.159
multipliers that they introduced because if you

00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:13.179
remember you we used to be able to do kind of

00:35:13.179 --> 00:35:15.280
the hard level on your own and you could just

00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.639
get about through it and they said oh it's because

00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.099
it turns out we made a bit of a boo -boo when

00:35:20.099 --> 00:35:23.030
we did this update and Actually, even when you're

00:35:23.030 --> 00:35:25.070
on your own, you're getting the equivalent of

00:35:25.070 --> 00:35:28.489
a four -player scenario. So they claim they rolled

00:35:28.489 --> 00:35:30.550
it back, but we always said it didn't feel like

00:35:30.550 --> 00:35:32.469
it rolled back enough. Yeah, they never did.

00:35:32.469 --> 00:35:34.769
And that's the level it's still at now, I think.

00:35:34.849 --> 00:35:37.369
So for me, it's, yeah. No, I'll wait till it's

00:35:37.369 --> 00:35:39.170
playing. I think we're going to stream it on...

00:35:39.170 --> 00:35:41.730
When this comes out, we've already done it. Yeah,

00:35:41.730 --> 00:35:42.730
we've already done it. We're going to do it on

00:35:42.730 --> 00:35:44.670
Thursday. So by the time this is out, people

00:35:44.670 --> 00:35:49.519
can go look at the VOD. Absolutely. I've unlocked

00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.079
everything I wanted. So it's not like I don't

00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.840
really care about the samples and all these things

00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:56.559
because I'm just not at that point in the game

00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.900
now. Unless it suddenly becomes a requirement

00:35:58.900 --> 00:36:02.820
because it's too hard without these unlockables.

00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.840
I'm just happy playing these new worlds. I've

00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.460
got the guns I like to cool down and I've got

00:36:08.460 --> 00:36:11.019
the... The eagle drop and I've got the lasers.

00:36:11.179 --> 00:36:13.199
That's all I use. We would have brought the tank

00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.079
and that was a waste of fucking money. Oh, dear

00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.860
God. Not real money, ladies and gents. In -game

00:36:17.860 --> 00:36:20.960
currency. No, in -game currency. 32 ,000 space

00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.659
credits or whatever it is. Yes, that was an absolute

00:36:24.659 --> 00:36:27.159
waste. I'm glad only one of us did that. Because

00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:28.440
imagine we'd both done it. That would have been

00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.739
stupid. Well, yeah, I was like 1 ,500 credits

00:36:30.739 --> 00:36:33.219
off it. So you just, oh, I'll get it then. And

00:36:33.219 --> 00:36:36.199
it's like, I'm really good. Giving you a tank

00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:40.980
that cannot move the turret 360 degrees. Literally

00:36:40.980 --> 00:36:44.139
took one or two shots from a cyber person and

00:36:44.139 --> 00:36:48.380
your rocket stopped working. Trash. Absolute

00:36:48.380 --> 00:36:53.019
trash. Yeah. But otherwise, you know, really

00:36:53.019 --> 00:36:55.900
very little. I mean, I'm really excited. I shouldn't

00:36:55.900 --> 00:36:58.199
say really excited, but I'm really glad Netflix

00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:03.280
has put the first 15 seasons of ER up. And I

00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:07.019
love ER. I grew up watching it in the 90s. And

00:37:07.019 --> 00:37:12.719
it, if not my top, one of my top medical dramas,

00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.440
because it was just so, it was so well done.

00:37:15.500 --> 00:37:20.019
And it didn't go stupidly over the top with trying

00:37:20.019 --> 00:37:24.320
to be Hollywood love story all the time. I mean,

00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.679
there were love stories going on in it. I mean,

00:37:26.699 --> 00:37:29.539
one of the ones. anyone that's watched er will

00:37:29.539 --> 00:37:33.179
know this trauma being i think i was 13 or 14

00:37:33.179 --> 00:37:35.579
at the time there's a junior doctor in it called

00:37:35.579 --> 00:37:40.599
carter uh played by noel oh god what's his name

00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:44.280
um he went on to do things like um he did a few

00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:49.519
films he did the out not the outer limits darker

00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:53.380
skies or whatever it was called um i'm going

00:37:53.380 --> 00:37:55.239
to look it up because it's going to really bug

00:37:55.239 --> 00:38:00.469
me and Noah Weil is the actor, and he did Donnie

00:38:00.469 --> 00:38:04.070
Darko, A Few Good Men. Latest one's called The

00:38:04.070 --> 00:38:06.630
Pit, which was meant to be a revival of ER, but

00:38:06.630 --> 00:38:09.389
they didn't get the license for it. Falling Skies

00:38:09.389 --> 00:38:11.510
is the one he did, which is a big, big sci -fi

00:38:11.510 --> 00:38:16.309
series, which is meant to be incredible. He ends

00:38:16.309 --> 00:38:20.769
up dating one of the trainee doctors that comes

00:38:20.769 --> 00:38:24.050
to the ER, and they've got such a... It's one

00:38:24.050 --> 00:38:28.400
of these shows... that really truly makes you

00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.599
love the characters even the characters that

00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.960
are meant to be bad you like it's just brilliant

00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:36.500
it's great casting it's well written and then

00:38:36.500 --> 00:38:38.460
when bad things happen to the people you like

00:38:38.460 --> 00:38:41.039
in it it affects you and i just remember there's

00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.099
this spoilers if you're you're planning on watching

00:38:44.099 --> 00:38:49.239
it um carter and lucy get stabbed in an episode

00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.699
and lucy dies carter survives and it's heartbreaking

00:38:54.230 --> 00:38:55.690
absolutely heartbreaking and i just remember

00:38:55.690 --> 00:38:58.269
being this teen boy oh my god i want to cry at

00:38:58.269 --> 00:39:01.510
a tv show um so yeah that's all on there so i'm

00:39:01.510 --> 00:39:03.949
making my way through that again uh but otherwise

00:39:03.949 --> 00:39:06.269
it was it's george clooney in it it is i think

00:39:06.269 --> 00:39:08.489
it's his first proper tv role it's what it's

00:39:08.489 --> 00:39:13.500
what it's what bought him to tv yeah He basically

00:39:13.500 --> 00:39:16.619
plays the paediatric doctor who doesn't follow

00:39:16.619 --> 00:39:19.800
the rules. So where that joke comes from, that

00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.920
is where this basically comes from. And other

00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:24.760
than that, just trying to make our way through

00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:27.179
this two and a half, two hour, ten minute film

00:39:27.179 --> 00:39:29.800
of a choice that we're going to talk about shortly.

00:39:30.219 --> 00:39:32.980
Okay, well, I'll do mine then. Yeah, go on then.

00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.769
I've played Hytale. you've played title yeah

00:39:39.769 --> 00:39:41.849
again i'm sorry everyone a bit boring for you

00:39:41.849 --> 00:39:44.849
all this really you go i've played a lot of hightail

00:39:44.849 --> 00:39:46.929
and i've done a little bit more tainted grail

00:39:46.929 --> 00:39:48.949
i'm not giving up on that i love that game too

00:39:48.949 --> 00:39:52.030
but hightail has taken over it's hitting that

00:39:52.030 --> 00:39:57.170
bit in my monkey brain that really tickles me

00:39:57.170 --> 00:39:59.449
and gets me going so but don't forget we've also

00:39:59.449 --> 00:40:02.079
watched quite a bit star trek Because of that.

00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:05.139
As I said, the film was long. Did you not watch

00:40:05.139 --> 00:40:07.880
the new Fallout series? Yeah, we finished Fallout.

00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:09.679
You haven't said much about that. No, it gave

00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:11.860
me a little break from it. And we've now finished

00:40:11.860 --> 00:40:14.659
it. Loved it. People complained. Of course they

00:40:14.659 --> 00:40:17.880
fucking did. Shut up. It was brilliant. Fair

00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.760
enough. What more can I say? It was very, very

00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.960
good. I'm looking forward to more of it. Yeah,

00:40:24.019 --> 00:40:27.679
Star Trek. We were under my own discussions about

00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:31.289
Supernatural. Right, okay. Because we, I can't

00:40:31.289 --> 00:40:33.090
remember why we stopped. I think it might have

00:40:33.090 --> 00:40:34.909
been because we went on holiday. You stopped

00:40:34.909 --> 00:40:37.510
and didn't we realise it was like 10 years before

00:40:37.510 --> 00:40:39.730
you'd finish it at the rate you were watching

00:40:39.730 --> 00:40:42.909
it? Yeah, that was, yeah. So, and I said to her

00:40:42.909 --> 00:40:44.849
yesterday, I was like, look, I really want to

00:40:44.849 --> 00:40:47.550
finish Supernatural. I want to watch that last

00:40:47.550 --> 00:40:49.989
season because they're bringing something back

00:40:49.989 --> 00:40:51.650
where they're putting them all in another show.

00:40:52.329 --> 00:40:56.010
Oh, okay. And, oh, yeah, they're putting them

00:40:56.010 --> 00:40:58.369
in, I think they might all be going in The Boys.

00:40:59.099 --> 00:41:03.019
all of them really it's even the boys or something

00:41:03.019 --> 00:41:10.960
else that is yeah and i was like i need to no

00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.139
i just basically i need to see that last season

00:41:13.139 --> 00:41:17.099
essentially but i cannot remember a lot of what

00:41:17.099 --> 00:41:19.119
happened and she's like we'll just start again

00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.760
so we cannot start again we just think we'll

00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:26.159
start the series again that we were on Yeah.

00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:27.760
That's what I think. You're looking up if it's

00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.360
the boys. They're going to be in something together.

00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:33.980
They've been teasing it for a while, but I don't

00:41:33.980 --> 00:41:37.079
know what it is. Because they did do a prequel

00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:45.159
series and the guy who plays Sam, Jared Padalecki,

00:41:45.380 --> 00:41:50.039
oh God, I'm so sorry. I think he's now got power

00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.079
joint because he wasn't asked to do anything

00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.070
with it. And it was Jensen Eccles was like one

00:41:55.070 --> 00:41:57.449
of the producers and he has a part in it as like

00:41:57.449 --> 00:42:01.690
a storyteller for it kind of. And yeah, I think

00:42:01.690 --> 00:42:03.150
Jared got his nose put out of joints and there

00:42:03.150 --> 00:42:04.630
was rumours that they weren't kind of friends

00:42:04.630 --> 00:42:06.510
anymore because of it. Yeah, it's all just kind

00:42:06.510 --> 00:42:10.210
of Hollywood bullshit. Right, okay. But there

00:42:10.210 --> 00:42:12.010
is something they're supposedly doing together.

00:42:12.670 --> 00:42:14.829
Interesting. I can't find much about it. Yeah,

00:42:14.829 --> 00:42:16.610
there's been little trailers they've been putting

00:42:16.610 --> 00:42:18.869
out on their socials over the last couple of

00:42:18.869 --> 00:42:21.349
years implying they're doing something together.

00:42:21.429 --> 00:42:23.789
So I would like to... Watch that, definitely.

00:42:24.230 --> 00:42:26.329
Yeah, that's fair enough. But as I said, I think

00:42:26.329 --> 00:42:29.289
we'll just restart the series we were on. We

00:42:29.289 --> 00:42:31.210
don't need to go all the way back. I think it's

00:42:31.210 --> 00:42:33.170
because we were getting to a bit where it's got

00:42:33.170 --> 00:42:37.690
these things called the Leviathans. So after

00:42:37.690 --> 00:42:40.289
they do a whole kind of world -ending apocalypse

00:42:40.289 --> 00:42:44.969
bit with God and everything, it ends up they

00:42:44.969 --> 00:42:48.730
have, yeah, these Leviathans, which are like

00:42:48.730 --> 00:42:52.530
these demons from before everything. And they've

00:42:52.530 --> 00:42:54.969
just kind of like big mouths that eat people.

00:42:55.489 --> 00:42:58.789
And that whole season isn't very good. It's not

00:42:58.789 --> 00:43:02.630
a good storyline. And I think it's also like

00:43:02.630 --> 00:43:06.110
the least well -received commercial by everybody.

00:43:06.710 --> 00:43:08.389
So it's kind of like we're getting up to that

00:43:08.389 --> 00:43:10.170
bit. So maybe that was another reason why we're

00:43:10.170 --> 00:43:11.969
like, oh, we don't watch the Leviathans again.

00:43:12.909 --> 00:43:16.489
As in comically giant mouth that opens and people

00:43:16.489 --> 00:43:17.989
can't ignore. No, it's not comically. It's just

00:43:17.989 --> 00:43:20.550
like. It's scary. Like the guy in Mortal Kombat

00:43:20.550 --> 00:43:22.650
that we saw on the variety show. It kind of does

00:43:22.650 --> 00:43:25.070
that. And then like whenever they eat someone

00:43:25.070 --> 00:43:27.949
does a blood splatter on the wall and stuff.

00:43:27.969 --> 00:43:29.510
So it is a little bit silly because Supernatural

00:43:29.510 --> 00:43:31.750
is a bit silly. So I was just quickly looking

00:43:31.750 --> 00:43:33.610
there now. It can't be a crossover with the boys

00:43:33.610 --> 00:43:36.690
because obviously Dean, whatever his name is.

00:43:37.070 --> 00:43:40.210
James Nichols, Dean. Gene Winchester. Is Soldier

00:43:40.210 --> 00:43:43.940
Boy. Yeah. In the boys. So it can't be. I know,

00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.420
and looking online, there's loads of articles

00:43:47.420 --> 00:43:49.880
saying there's a load of cameo crossovers in

00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.539
it. But it is just actors from the show that

00:43:52.539 --> 00:43:55.000
are appearing in it. But, I mean, it'd be interesting

00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:56.780
to see. No, Jensen Eccles and Jared Padalecki

00:43:56.780 --> 00:43:58.780
are reuniting for the fifth and final version

00:43:58.780 --> 00:44:02.099
of the prime video, The Boys. Oh, so they're

00:44:02.099 --> 00:44:04.519
just the actors. It's nothing to do with supernatural.

00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.079
No, it's just the actors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well,

00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:11.940
that makes much more sense then. Yeah, it's funny,

00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:13.699
isn't it? When you've had a season run for that

00:44:13.699 --> 00:44:16.599
long, I'm so surprised that Netflix doesn't just

00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.840
do... Annoyingly, it would probably be done with

00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.559
AI, wouldn't it? But why they don't just seem

00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:26.000
to do some sort of... There's this one -hour

00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.940
montage showing, basically, the progression of

00:44:29.940 --> 00:44:33.059
the story. So you can then, rather than having

00:44:33.059 --> 00:44:36.559
to go, I've got to watch all 14, 15 seasons again.

00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.079
but it's funny i mean don't get me wrong you

00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:40.739
might want to do that and i would never hold

00:44:40.739 --> 00:44:42.599
that because i've watched series series over

00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:46.860
and over again but when you think new season

00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:49.699
has been 10 years since the last season let's

00:44:49.699 --> 00:44:52.960
say i can't at the rate i've got to watch it

00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:56.119
i cannot do that if you could say to me you watch

00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:58.039
this hour long and it will catch you up on all

00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.719
the bits that are key that you require for the

00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:02.860
next season Boom. I'd be well into that. You

00:45:02.860 --> 00:45:04.039
could do that on YouTube. They probably have

00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:06.800
it on YouTube, I reckon. But it's funny because

00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.679
Supernatural was a classic one for doing it.

00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.460
It'll be like last season. They'll do a little

00:45:13.460 --> 00:45:15.500
last season thing at the beginning of the episode.

00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.139
Yeah. And you'll see clips, because we had just

00:45:19.139 --> 00:45:22.719
watched the season, that were never in it. No,

00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:24.900
we were like, that was not there. That bit was

00:45:24.900 --> 00:45:28.579
never in that. Or was it? Because of UK censoring.

00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.079
Either that or they're using cut stuff. like

00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:33.579
director's cut material oh maybe that he's never

00:45:33.579 --> 00:45:35.400
used it's like oh it's just a little scene but

00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.719
still but aside from that i haven't actually

00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:39.420
watched supernatural so it's a bit silly to be

00:45:39.420 --> 00:45:43.219
saying it but yeah that's it hightail lots of

00:45:43.219 --> 00:45:46.860
hightail we finished fallout what star trek um

00:45:46.860 --> 00:45:51.300
oh we watched pride and prejudice of course the

00:45:51.300 --> 00:45:53.559
new one well the new quite quite new one that's

00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:57.869
got uh kira knightley in it It's not my favourite

00:45:57.869 --> 00:46:00.510
one. Sorry, everyone, I like Pride and Prejudice.

00:46:00.730 --> 00:46:04.210
Why are you apologising? The series they did

00:46:04.210 --> 00:46:07.409
is the better one. That's got Colin Firth as

00:46:07.409 --> 00:46:10.150
Mr Darcy. That's the better. So that was the

00:46:10.150 --> 00:46:12.349
late 90s, early 2000s, wasn't it? Yeah, that's

00:46:12.349 --> 00:46:16.269
the better one because the mum in that is brilliant.

00:46:16.590 --> 00:46:19.590
She's the best version of it. But Judi Dench

00:46:19.590 --> 00:46:24.840
is... i struggle with everyone's names so judy

00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:28.699
dench in the new one with new quote with kira

00:46:28.699 --> 00:46:33.599
knightley yeah she is mr darcy's aunt in and

00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:36.219
she's the better version of that so there's a

00:46:36.219 --> 00:46:37.860
few characters that mix and match and i actually

00:46:37.860 --> 00:46:40.239
really like kira knightley as her character but

00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.039
yeah the better one is the series that they did

00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:46.000
because it goes into it more i don't just i just

00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.300
like it i just it's just like fair enough i'd

00:46:48.300 --> 00:46:50.099
like all the weird little i think because i think

00:46:50.099 --> 00:46:54.400
it's so silly how they will talk and like yeah

00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:56.880
this is a this is an odd one because so many

00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:00.480
people will kind of i don't think people give

00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.880
things a chance now i'm not a fan of it at all

00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.519
i've seen it before it's not my cup of tea it

00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:08.480
didn't work for me which is fine but i have sat

00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:12.639
through it and that is the thing that you need

00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:16.539
to kind of accept now i for a fair while for

00:47:16.539 --> 00:47:20.400
some reason had tiktok was flagging up clips

00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.840
from the waltons and if you don't know what the

00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:28.460
waltons was it was a 1970s 1980s drama series

00:47:28.460 --> 00:47:35.159
about an ordinary family in like 1890s 1900s

00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:41.440
america so think kind of wild west sort of stuff

00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.320
but not quite more slightly more modern than

00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:47.130
that yeah And the idea is you've got John Boy

00:47:47.130 --> 00:47:49.230
and you've just got this giant family and they

00:47:49.230 --> 00:47:51.730
live off the land and there's the town. And it's

00:47:51.730 --> 00:47:54.289
just little normal stuff. And there is nothing

00:47:54.289 --> 00:47:58.230
horrible in it, really. There's nothing rude.

00:47:58.389 --> 00:48:01.110
It's just this innocent little thing. And I was

00:48:01.110 --> 00:48:02.469
watching these clips and I thought, you know,

00:48:02.570 --> 00:48:05.389
I'll give a couple of episodes a try just because

00:48:05.389 --> 00:48:09.690
I think it'd be quite novel to see it. And a

00:48:09.690 --> 00:48:11.610
bit like Cheers. I've sat back and I've just

00:48:11.610 --> 00:48:13.590
started watching Cheers as well. And it's like...

00:48:14.349 --> 00:48:17.170
i quite happily watch this because there is for

00:48:17.170 --> 00:48:21.690
once there's just nothing nasty in it and again

00:48:21.690 --> 00:48:26.269
well cast the stories are interesting it's nothing

00:48:26.269 --> 00:48:28.750
that i would normally watch anyone that knows

00:48:28.750 --> 00:48:31.030
me so if it's not sci -fi if it's not shooting

00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:33.030
it's not blowing things up why are you watching

00:48:33.030 --> 00:48:36.110
it and it's like because we actually have other

00:48:36.110 --> 00:48:40.050
levels to us we might not admit to them but there

00:48:40.050 --> 00:48:42.150
are things i can quite happily sit down and watch

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:44.780
And it's just weird when you find those things.

00:48:44.820 --> 00:48:46.340
If you don't give them a chance to, you'll never

00:48:46.340 --> 00:48:49.920
understand that. Yeah. You know what? I can't

00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:54.440
stand. I hate Dirty Dancing. What I think that's

00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:56.500
one of the shittest fucking films I've ever seen.

00:48:56.539 --> 00:48:58.800
I enjoy it. And it's one of Jem's favourites.

00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:02.079
God, sorry, Jem. It's one of the worst films

00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.980
I've ever seen. I hate it. No one puts baby in

00:49:04.980 --> 00:49:07.440
the corner. What are you going to do about it,

00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.300
nonce? Yeah, exactly. Oh, speaking of nonces.

00:49:15.010 --> 00:49:18.869
Accessing library computer data. Close encounters

00:49:18.869 --> 00:49:21.389
of the nuts kind. Close encounters of the nuts

00:49:21.389 --> 00:49:24.889
kind. Close encounters of the third kind. 1977.

00:49:26.170 --> 00:49:29.230
Steven Pilberg, isn't it? Steven Spielberg. Not

00:49:29.230 --> 00:49:33.010
Pilberg. Steven Pil -ya -berg. That's a comedic

00:49:33.010 --> 00:49:37.469
version if I've ever heard one. Now, before we

00:49:37.469 --> 00:49:40.670
get into it, I just want you to say, did you

00:49:40.670 --> 00:49:49.329
like it? Honestly, no. I did. Yeah. This is good.

00:49:49.389 --> 00:49:51.989
We disagree. Good. For once, we're disagreeing.

00:49:52.130 --> 00:49:59.789
So, dislike is a strong word. I think there was

00:49:59.789 --> 00:50:06.650
a lot of it that I found unnecessary. And I just

00:50:06.650 --> 00:50:11.849
thought the story was bland. Now, the effects.

00:50:12.619 --> 00:50:14.940
Some of them, wonderful. Absolutely brilliant.

00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:18.559
I wasn't there just for the effects. I wanted

00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.340
a decent story to it. And I just found, for me,

00:50:21.460 --> 00:50:28.980
I found the story lacking. There's lots of it

00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:32.440
that I actually didn't like. Like, bits and bits

00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:34.760
and bits all together. But when I put them all

00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:36.460
together, it actually ended up being something

00:50:36.460 --> 00:50:41.659
I did like. There was a lot to it. The best way

00:50:41.659 --> 00:50:47.260
I can describe, for me anyway, this is a film

00:50:47.260 --> 00:50:49.739
that tends to be lauded as one of the greatest

00:50:49.739 --> 00:50:52.179
sci -fi films of all time. If you look at the

00:50:52.179 --> 00:50:54.739
list, whenever they sell top 10 sci -fi, this

00:50:54.739 --> 00:50:59.280
appears in it. Now, I'm sorry, but when it comes

00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:02.800
to sci -fi Steven Spielberg, I would put Batteries

00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.800
Not Included above this. Yeah. What a film. Compared

00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:09.099
to this, absolutely. Or E .T. Can I understand?

00:51:09.300 --> 00:51:12.519
I hate E .T. yeah uh he used to freak me out

00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:14.300
as a kid especially the bit where he's found

00:51:14.300 --> 00:51:17.079
laying in the water looking like a kind of shriveled

00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:19.820
up old dog turd but when he's in this fucking

00:51:19.820 --> 00:51:27.099
film yes yes pretty much um it's you're told

00:51:27.099 --> 00:51:29.960
it's superb you're told it's going to be wonderful

00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:32.179
it's one of the best sci -fi films out there

00:51:33.949 --> 00:51:37.570
and i'll put this in line with 2001 a space odyssey

00:51:37.570 --> 00:51:41.710
which for the time for what it came up with phenomenal

00:51:41.710 --> 00:51:44.929
was the story absolutely brilliant or was it

00:51:44.929 --> 00:51:46.929
really quite long boring and could have had large

00:51:46.929 --> 00:51:48.610
portions of it cut out because you actually want

00:51:48.610 --> 00:51:49.829
it just to get on with different bits of the

00:51:49.829 --> 00:51:53.730
story Fucking absolutely. Then you get the sequel

00:51:53.730 --> 00:51:56.590
to 2001, 2010, The Year We Make Contact, which

00:51:56.590 --> 00:51:59.429
you don't hear often about. Helen Mirren's first

00:51:59.429 --> 00:52:02.070
role, by the way, playing a Russian astronaut.

00:52:02.730 --> 00:52:06.730
And that's phenomenal in comparison to 2001.

00:52:07.449 --> 00:52:11.869
For me, wipes the floor with it. And Close Encounters

00:52:11.869 --> 00:52:17.110
of the Third Kind just did not gel for me. I

00:52:17.110 --> 00:52:19.929
understand what they were trying to do, but...

00:52:20.699 --> 00:52:24.739
and we discussed this with my wife earlier, I

00:52:24.739 --> 00:52:28.239
came away thinking, that's not the story I wanted

00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.179
to watch. I don't care about the bloke who's

00:52:31.179 --> 00:52:33.940
slowly going insane, trying to mound a giant

00:52:33.940 --> 00:52:35.840
pile of poo in his front room into something.

00:52:36.300 --> 00:52:37.800
I actually want to know what the scientists are

00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.000
doing. I want to know what drew them to find,

00:52:40.099 --> 00:52:41.820
who called them to tell them these seven planes

00:52:41.820 --> 00:52:43.260
have appeared in the desert. I want to know what

00:52:43.260 --> 00:52:44.880
research has been going on. I want to know what

00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.619
happened after they found the giant ship in the

00:52:46.619 --> 00:52:49.559
desert. How they figured out the fucking music.

00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:52.360
Yeah, how they suddenly ended up at India where

00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:55.079
everyone's chanting this sound. How they decided

00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:58.679
that these were the tonal variations. That's

00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:02.559
the story I actually cared about. Him slowly

00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:05.059
losing his mind and needing to do these things

00:53:05.059 --> 00:53:09.280
and driving his family out was very secondary

00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:12.840
to it. But that's the bit it focused on. And

00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:16.300
that's also my main critique, is that... the

00:53:16.300 --> 00:53:20.599
film that you want is happening next door you're

00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:25.039
following you're left completely oblivious in

00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.340
the same way that the protagonist is oblivious

00:53:28.340 --> 00:53:30.460
to all of it because you're following him and

00:53:30.460 --> 00:53:32.360
they're not giving you any extra information

00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:35.599
at all you're only seeing bits as he's seeing

00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.619
the bits so you don't like other than yeah you

00:53:38.619 --> 00:53:50.769
go it's giant A lot of why is this happening?

00:53:51.409 --> 00:53:55.389
Why have they suddenly arrived? Why are we suddenly

00:53:55.389 --> 00:53:58.750
getting this big amalgamation of them coming?

00:53:59.130 --> 00:54:02.389
Which, again, isn't really truly answered. Because

00:54:02.389 --> 00:54:04.309
we suddenly get... I didn't answer it. None of

00:54:04.309 --> 00:54:06.329
it matters. Over the years, we see that they've

00:54:06.329 --> 00:54:09.190
abducted all of these people. And you see that

00:54:09.190 --> 00:54:10.730
at the very end, where they've got this giant

00:54:10.730 --> 00:54:13.269
grid of all the people, and they're ticking them

00:54:13.269 --> 00:54:15.900
off as they come back. But why have they chosen

00:54:15.900 --> 00:54:17.300
to come back and suddenly reveal themselves?

00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:20.260
Have we received some sort of message? We know

00:54:20.260 --> 00:54:23.000
we've received that message of the coordinates.

00:54:23.260 --> 00:54:27.340
And we know that after they found India making

00:54:27.340 --> 00:54:30.940
all those noises, that they started beaming those

00:54:30.940 --> 00:54:34.360
musical notes back into space. But why have they

00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:36.199
suddenly become active prior to that? Had we

00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:38.519
been sending a message out? Had we already received

00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:40.019
a message? Which is why they were doing all the

00:54:40.019 --> 00:54:43.500
research. There's so many questions unanswered

00:54:43.500 --> 00:54:47.280
by it. That bugged me. Yeah. Because that's what

00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:49.300
the story should have been about. It's funny

00:54:49.300 --> 00:54:51.480
because you're making all the points. I agree

00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:54.179
with every single one. But still, by the end

00:54:54.179 --> 00:54:56.659
of it, I was happy with the film and I liked

00:54:56.659 --> 00:54:58.840
it. Which is very weird because I'm completely

00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:00.800
agreeing with everything you're saying. All the

00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:02.800
bits you don't like, I didn't like either. But

00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:05.340
I still liked the whole thing. The thing that

00:55:05.340 --> 00:55:07.840
really bugged me the most, and Gem agreed on

00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.880
this, was I don't feel that the end of the film

00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:15.300
is a satisfactory conclusion. Yeah. That fucking

00:55:15.300 --> 00:55:19.800
dude, he was a dickhead. He was a dickhead. His

00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:23.739
kids were little shits. His wife, his poor fucking

00:55:23.739 --> 00:55:31.659
wife. So what they don't do enough, again, not

00:55:31.659 --> 00:55:34.239
enough exposition, but too much exposition and

00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:38.659
the wrong things, is that it's quite clear that

00:55:38.659 --> 00:55:41.719
the wife and him have been at loggerheads for

00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:45.030
years. Yeah. She didn't really want the children.

00:55:45.130 --> 00:55:48.829
What you kind of just about glance from it is

00:55:48.829 --> 00:55:50.849
she probably didn't want the three children.

00:55:51.050 --> 00:55:55.409
He kind of did, but he's too childlike himself

00:55:55.409 --> 00:56:01.130
to actually be a decent dad. She, albeit without

00:56:01.130 --> 00:56:04.090
them showing on film, is guaranteed to be taking

00:56:04.090 --> 00:56:07.570
Vicodin or some sort of antidepressant whenever

00:56:07.570 --> 00:56:10.929
she walks into her bedroom and is trying not

00:56:10.929 --> 00:56:14.349
to just... give up on everything until you finally

00:56:14.349 --> 00:56:16.150
see a snap and then they disappear off out of

00:56:16.150 --> 00:56:18.550
the film but they literally could have just killed

00:56:18.550 --> 00:56:22.110
them off in a house fire she just goes off to

00:56:22.110 --> 00:56:23.769
her assistant that's the end of it and he's just

00:56:23.769 --> 00:56:26.250
completely forgotten about him because i know

00:56:26.250 --> 00:56:28.409
he's meant to be being drawn to it and he's got

00:56:28.409 --> 00:56:30.710
no reason why he's being drawn to it because

00:56:30.710 --> 00:56:35.730
again reasons that aren't explained why just

00:56:35.730 --> 00:56:38.780
because he had that encounter is he now being

00:56:38.780 --> 00:56:41.760
drawn to that place and they don't explain any

00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:44.619
of that yeah you just get one comment that it's

00:56:44.619 --> 00:56:49.840
a uh psycho nice like psychiatric event or whatever

00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.159
he called it where all these people are coming

00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:56.119
to the place that they've been programmed to

00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:59.840
come to but there's no kind of digging into that

00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:02.539
there's nothing you get that weird scene where

00:57:02.539 --> 00:57:04.219
they're just asking him questions and he's getting

00:57:04.219 --> 00:57:06.219
grumpier and grumpier and then they stick him

00:57:06.219 --> 00:57:07.880
on the helicopter before he realizes it's all

00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:11.719
fake and runs off um there's just not enough

00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:13.599
about that and then yeah he gets on the bloody

00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:15.639
ship with the aliens with no thoughts about his

00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:17.440
wife or his children that he's leaving behind

00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:21.059
yeah see ya that was an odd one i'll be coming

00:57:21.059 --> 00:57:22.800
back to earth and i'll still be the same age

00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:26.619
they'll be dead yeah or they'll be adults and

00:57:26.619 --> 00:57:30.050
be like you fucking left us you left us precisely

00:57:30.050 --> 00:57:32.789
it's just it's a really odd ending there's no

00:57:32.789 --> 00:57:36.590
no decent conclusion to it it just ends with

00:57:36.590 --> 00:57:39.949
him going off he flies off weird old barry being

00:57:39.949 --> 00:57:42.309
back which let's face it that kid deserved to

00:57:42.309 --> 00:57:45.369
be hit by his truck that fucking kid um but he

00:57:45.369 --> 00:57:47.250
snogged her as well didn't he oh yeah he snogged

00:57:47.250 --> 00:57:50.409
his mother yeah uh barry's mother not actually

00:57:50.409 --> 00:57:52.150
the main character yeah that would have just

00:57:52.150 --> 00:57:56.610
been wrong um but yeah it's just this there's

00:57:56.610 --> 00:57:59.889
just so much unexplained in it that i just felt

00:57:59.889 --> 00:58:04.210
like i haven't had a satisfactory story told

00:58:04.210 --> 00:58:08.530
to me in this film and that's not even the worst

00:58:08.530 --> 00:58:11.150
part for me as there were parts i enjoyed and

00:58:11.150 --> 00:58:13.409
i say the effects i think were pretty don't understand

00:58:13.409 --> 00:58:16.289
why all the aliens have it's meant to be the

00:58:16.289 --> 00:58:19.539
same alien race they're all but then we have

00:58:19.539 --> 00:58:22.480
King's sausage arms turn up. Do you know, my

00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.260
note on that is like, why would you make a spaceship?

00:58:25.260 --> 00:58:27.219
I'm the pepperoni! Yeah, why would you make a

00:58:27.219 --> 00:58:29.300
spaceship door that you have to duck to get out

00:58:29.300 --> 00:58:31.860
of? Yeah, so Mr. Pepperoni can't get out. He

00:58:31.860 --> 00:58:33.820
can't get out. Yeah, the fucking Slenderman.

00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:35.659
But then you've got all these other ships that

00:58:35.659 --> 00:58:38.460
are all different sizes. Yeah. That are all looking

00:58:38.460 --> 00:58:40.639
like they're drifting cars from Tokyo in the

00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:45.420
90s and the 2000s. Where it's like, what's the

00:58:45.420 --> 00:58:47.300
one with the little flying ones in the hotel?

00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:50.820
well that's batteries are they not batteries

00:58:50.820 --> 00:58:53.019
not included aliens i don't know that's what

00:58:53.019 --> 00:58:55.079
i was taking from it now that's what they were

00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:58.239
big versions of it and then the greys came out

00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:01.400
i was like oh yeah they're not them then no um

00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:03.400
but even then the greys don't look the same so

00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:06.039
you had all the little greys come out yeah and

00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.099
they had the big bulbous head and if you you

00:59:08.099 --> 00:59:10.599
pause you saw they got these really big eyes

00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:13.679
with iris really freaky looking actually really

00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:17.139
disturbing But then the main alien that comes

00:59:17.139 --> 00:59:19.320
out and then does the hand gestures of the music

00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:23.980
is a different design again. That was the E .T.

00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:29.039
lookalike. No, I get what you're saying. But

00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:31.860
again, it's a different design, though, isn't

00:59:31.860 --> 00:59:35.000
it? There was three different aliens there. Exactly.

00:59:35.300 --> 00:59:39.440
But why have they come? And I'm still at that

00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:41.920
point of I don't know why they've suddenly decided

00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:45.219
to come to see us. And return everyone that they've

00:59:45.219 --> 00:59:47.400
basically been anally probing for God knows how

00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:49.980
many years. Why did they return all of their

00:59:49.980 --> 00:59:53.699
aircraft and the ship beforehand? It really makes

00:59:53.699 --> 00:59:58.300
no sense. But even again, even that's not the

00:59:58.300 --> 01:00:02.639
biggest problem. And my problem is I don't have

01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:05.760
a top of the range sound system, which I'm guessing

01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.480
this film was made to be shown through, i .e.

01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:10.739
the cinema. And even then, the cinema wouldn't

01:00:10.739 --> 01:00:13.090
have been anywhere near. What we have in our

01:00:13.090 --> 01:00:16.369
front rooms. And I thought the sound was fucking

01:00:16.369 --> 01:00:20.469
atrocious. They're in the bloody... I understand.

01:00:20.550 --> 01:00:23.349
They're in a windstorm. Great. Give the people

01:00:23.349 --> 01:00:27.010
watching it five seconds of windy sound and then

01:00:27.010 --> 01:00:30.110
turn that fucker down. No, I literally couldn't

01:00:30.110 --> 01:00:32.250
hear most of the... Yeah, you can't do the speech

01:00:32.250 --> 01:00:36.409
in it. Fucking Toby the little shit child smashing

01:00:36.409 --> 01:00:40.050
the doll to pieces. Why that was even needed,

01:00:40.170 --> 01:00:43.349
I've got no idea. But oh, I was getting ready

01:00:43.349 --> 01:00:45.369
to throw the fucking remote at the TV and say,

01:00:45.409 --> 01:00:49.239
I can't do this. properly setting me off that

01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.679
one but you couldn't hear what he was saying

01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.119
something mumble mumble pinocchio mumble mumble

01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.179
the kids all love it pinocchio blah blah yeah

01:00:56.179 --> 01:00:59.760
great if i could hear you but that goes throughout

01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:03.420
the entire film yeah anytime there's some semblance

01:01:03.420 --> 01:01:09.519
of story going on there is noise over it and

01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:14.039
i'm i'm sure it was a direction choice but why

01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:20.579
yeah yeah It really, really bugged me. Yeah,

01:01:20.579 --> 01:01:23.679
it's funny because you're absolutely right. People

01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:25.239
are going to be like, but you said you like this,

01:01:25.260 --> 01:01:28.719
Rob. It's like every single bad comment you were

01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:31.880
saying is absolutely spot on. You are absolutely

01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:34.179
right in every single way. But as I said, there's

01:01:34.179 --> 01:01:37.099
just something when I get all that together,

01:01:37.260 --> 01:01:40.800
I was like at a point where I was like, oh, I

01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:42.500
might have it on another screen and do something

01:01:42.500 --> 01:01:45.320
on this one. But I didn't. I wanted to keep focusing

01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.360
on it, and I wanted to keep watching it. Is Barry

01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:50.320
just a little shit who ran away, or is he being

01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:52.539
drawn out by the aliens to draw the mother out?

01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.239
Oh, no, he's a piece of shit. Right. Yeah, he

01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:57.719
crawled through the cat flap to get out. Yeah.

01:01:57.780 --> 01:02:00.880
When the house is under attack. Well, yeah, well,

01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:03.099
the kids, the little baby aliens come and eat

01:02:03.099 --> 01:02:06.099
all their food, didn't they? Yeah. That happened

01:02:06.099 --> 01:02:08.340
first. And then, yeah, they come back for him.

01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:12.019
They come back to take Barry. But... They come

01:02:12.019 --> 01:02:15.380
back to take Barry, so they want him, but it's

01:02:15.380 --> 01:02:17.539
the mum, again, who has been programmed to go

01:02:17.539 --> 01:02:21.139
to Devil's Peak. So were they actually there

01:02:21.139 --> 01:02:25.059
for Barry? This is what I mean. Whenever we watch

01:02:25.059 --> 01:02:27.440
any of these films nowadays, I get a bit of a

01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:29.320
paternal instinct of wanting to care for the

01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:32.880
kids. 100 % not for Barry. Not for Barry. He

01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:36.840
didn't spark a single, single fucking neuron

01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.900
in my brain. I would not have been upset if the

01:02:39.900 --> 01:02:41.840
main character had run him down with his truck

01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:44.840
in that bit. Or the nonces had taken him off

01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:46.860
into the hills. When he was gone, I was like,

01:02:46.940 --> 01:02:48.539
oh good, that means he's not going to be in it

01:02:48.539 --> 01:02:53.559
for a while. He's gone then. Fucking brilliant.

01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:59.039
there were positive points there are points of

01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:00.619
the story i like there are points of how the

01:03:00.619 --> 01:03:03.920
film went that i like it's just too much is left

01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:07.460
unexplained the sound design for me was atrocious

01:03:07.460 --> 01:03:09.739
and again that could just be me that could just

01:03:09.739 --> 01:03:12.460
be because those particular noises made me feel

01:03:12.460 --> 01:03:16.820
really just aggravated maybe other people don't

01:03:16.820 --> 01:03:20.599
get that um but there's so much more that could

01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:22.559
have been done with it and when you as much as

01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.760
i don't like et because it freaked me out as

01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:27.929
a kid The story to E .T. actually makes fucking

01:03:27.929 --> 01:03:32.510
sense and it has something to go with it. Yeah.

01:03:32.590 --> 01:03:36.530
I mean, I did really like, and I was just gutted

01:03:36.530 --> 01:03:38.829
it didn't last longer. When they're doing the

01:03:38.829 --> 01:03:40.869
music to the spaceship and it's talking back,

01:03:41.190 --> 01:03:43.550
there's a whole, it's like a whole song between

01:03:43.550 --> 01:03:45.690
the two of them. And I really liked that bit.

01:03:45.750 --> 01:03:47.989
It's a beautiful piece of music. If you go back

01:03:47.989 --> 01:03:52.030
and listen to it, it's wonderfully done. But

01:03:52.030 --> 01:03:54.849
again. No explanation why the aliens talk in

01:03:54.849 --> 01:03:57.929
tonal music. I didn't understand what the guys

01:03:57.929 --> 01:04:00.090
were saying next to him. They were like, they

01:04:00.090 --> 01:04:02.610
were then, yeah, I understood the octave. And

01:04:02.610 --> 01:04:04.909
then I started going fifth set. And they just

01:04:04.909 --> 01:04:07.230
started talking a lot of gibberish. And that

01:04:07.230 --> 01:04:09.489
was a, it was kind of ruining that scene for

01:04:09.489 --> 01:04:10.809
me because it's too much. And one of them was

01:04:10.809 --> 01:04:13.309
like, I hope someone's recording this. What?

01:04:14.259 --> 01:04:16.659
Wait, that ever went through your brain that

01:04:16.659 --> 01:04:18.800
no one would be recording? Of course, everyone

01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.360
should be recording. I like everyone's got aviators

01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:22.579
as well. Everyone got their aviators out. I love

01:04:22.579 --> 01:04:24.539
the fact that one of them runs to the port -a

01:04:24.539 --> 01:04:27.880
-loo. Yeah, I do. That's a brilliant bit of hype

01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:32.340
shit. I'm out. Yeah, there was a lot of scientists

01:04:32.340 --> 01:04:35.460
and military people there with no discipline.

01:04:35.739 --> 01:04:40.150
Yep. at all i joked with jen imagine the boat

01:04:40.150 --> 01:04:42.289
playing the keyboard and he's just standing there

01:04:42.289 --> 01:04:44.690
going i was they told me i was booked for a birthday

01:04:44.690 --> 01:04:50.429
party what the fuck's going on help i've learned

01:04:50.429 --> 01:04:52.170
their song they told me to i didn't think it

01:04:52.170 --> 01:04:56.809
was a bit weird he had a lot of pressure on him

01:04:56.809 --> 01:05:00.949
okay so they say tonal lock and they take over

01:05:00.949 --> 01:05:03.809
the control of the keyboard okay tonal lock means

01:05:03.809 --> 01:05:07.599
fucking what You've heard part of the song and

01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:09.840
now you can predict how the alien's going to

01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:11.519
be doing. You're telling me that you've learnt

01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:13.199
their language already. Yeah, you've got chat

01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:16.280
GPT back there. Because that's what they're suggesting

01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:18.739
is we can take over the control of this now because

01:05:18.739 --> 01:05:21.559
we've understood enough and we can just do it

01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.380
back. Really? No, there's an AI in the background

01:05:24.380 --> 01:05:27.340
going, boop, boop, boop, boop. Oh, yes, what

01:05:27.340 --> 01:05:30.219
a great question, alien. Here's your answer.

01:05:30.380 --> 01:05:33.239
Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. That's

01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.000
how it'd be. That's how it'd fucking be. I'd

01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.719
be wrong. You just really wanted all the aliens

01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:44.300
to run out like Mars attacks and just... Those

01:05:44.300 --> 01:05:48.760
little grey baby aliens. Okay, right. I want

01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:51.500
to just quickly... 16 minutes and 33 seconds

01:05:51.500 --> 01:05:54.460
ago, I said the word nonce in relation to this

01:05:54.460 --> 01:05:57.980
film. It's one scene. It is. They go... It's

01:05:57.980 --> 01:05:59.940
Barry running away, nearly getting run over.

01:06:00.019 --> 01:06:05.110
Barry gets... a nonce near him. So there's a

01:06:05.110 --> 01:06:07.670
bit of a road where he first, he meets Barry

01:06:07.670 --> 01:06:09.389
when he's running him over. It's not actually

01:06:09.389 --> 01:06:12.969
a nonce, it's some sort of hillbilly that's straight

01:06:12.969 --> 01:06:14.889
out of the film that I can't think of what the

01:06:14.889 --> 01:06:16.710
film is. No, he's not the one doing the photos.

01:06:17.050 --> 01:06:20.449
No, no, he's the one that's got his sons in the

01:06:20.449 --> 01:06:22.250
back of the van that are all quite obviously

01:06:22.250 --> 01:06:24.309
inbred. Yeah, no, that's not who I'm talking

01:06:24.309 --> 01:06:27.730
about. Really? So when the guy comes, he nearly

01:06:27.730 --> 01:06:30.539
runs Barry over. He's at this crossroad, a bit

01:06:30.539 --> 01:06:32.039
of a corner of a road. Oh yeah, she's the bloke

01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:33.380
that goes up to him when he's playing in the

01:06:33.380 --> 01:06:36.159
mud. Taking pictures of him. Yeah. So then they

01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:38.980
go back there a second time and it's full of

01:06:38.980 --> 01:06:40.619
people. Doesn't explain how all these people

01:06:40.619 --> 01:06:42.599
know they need to come to this particular bit

01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:44.579
of road, but they're all there. And there's a

01:06:44.579 --> 01:06:47.420
scene of Barry, the fucking idiot, playing in

01:06:47.420 --> 01:06:51.269
the dirt. with a large man, camera right in his

01:06:51.269 --> 01:06:55.030
face, taking pictures of just Barry. No one else.

01:06:55.250 --> 01:06:57.610
And the fact that the main character comes up

01:06:57.610 --> 01:07:00.210
to him and tells him to fucking get lost. Barry

01:07:00.210 --> 01:07:03.110
does no stranger danger. Yeah, he literally comes

01:07:03.110 --> 01:07:05.730
over and tells that guy to shift it and stop

01:07:05.730 --> 01:07:08.389
taking pictures of Barry. It's like, is anyone

01:07:08.389 --> 01:07:10.329
else noticing that that is actually clearly,

01:07:10.409 --> 01:07:14.690
he's just told that guy to stop nonsense. I would

01:07:14.690 --> 01:07:16.889
argue, so right, there's two points I want to

01:07:16.889 --> 01:07:21.730
talk about. One, what fucking amazing scene when

01:07:21.730 --> 01:07:24.949
he gets his close encounter in the truck. That's

01:07:24.949 --> 01:07:30.289
a great scene. That is the only properly redeeming

01:07:30.289 --> 01:07:33.730
scene for the entire film. When he's in his truck,

01:07:33.849 --> 01:07:35.550
you don't really know what's going on. You see

01:07:35.550 --> 01:07:37.610
this thing flashing from behind and then it goes

01:07:37.610 --> 01:07:40.550
up. But then the whole truck starts. And you

01:07:40.550 --> 01:07:42.590
see the anti -gravity bit where he starts raising

01:07:42.590 --> 01:07:46.130
up towards the roof. You see. fuses and lights

01:07:46.130 --> 01:07:48.349
fizz out you see everything getting thrown around

01:07:48.349 --> 01:07:50.769
you see all this this beautiful light and whatever

01:07:50.769 --> 01:07:53.789
else he then has sunburned down half his face

01:07:53.789 --> 01:07:56.349
which is an absolute wonderful little touch to

01:07:56.349 --> 01:08:01.090
that that entire scene brilliant and that then

01:08:01.090 --> 01:08:04.730
ties into you have that scene you have the scene

01:08:04.730 --> 01:08:06.869
when she's at home with barry in the house and

01:08:06.869 --> 01:08:09.010
the aliens are above the house quite clearly

01:08:09.010 --> 01:08:14.610
trying to abduct him and it makes the film Those

01:08:14.610 --> 01:08:21.010
sections, 100 % horror. Yeah. Chilling and terrifying.

01:08:21.710 --> 01:08:25.289
A complete though, 180 to the rest of the film

01:08:25.289 --> 01:08:27.710
and how the film makes you feel. Because those

01:08:27.710 --> 01:08:30.189
two scenes, absolutely horror film. You could

01:08:30.189 --> 01:08:32.529
do a horror film in that style. It'd be fucking

01:08:32.529 --> 01:08:34.930
terrifying. Imagine if they'd actually just continued

01:08:34.930 --> 01:08:39.380
that. Yeah. All the way through. Now, you can

01:08:39.380 --> 01:08:42.560
obviously see that bit where Barry finally crawls

01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:44.779
through the dog flap and you think, yeah, mum,

01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:46.739
you didn't hold onto his ankle on purpose. She

01:08:46.739 --> 01:08:50.199
wasn't trying. God, no. You can see where Signs

01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:53.600
got the idea for their scenes, which, again,

01:08:53.699 --> 01:08:56.140
jokes about, I've only seen Signs once, thought

01:08:56.140 --> 01:08:58.439
one of the worst films in the world. Oh, yes,

01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:01.460
let's go to this planet and invade it. Oh, yeah,

01:09:01.460 --> 01:09:03.760
by the way, we all remember, yeah, we can't go

01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.319
near water, yeah, we remember that? Okay, cool.

01:09:07.100 --> 01:09:09.159
Just questioning it because, what, 60 % of that

01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:12.880
planet's water? And the inhabitants are 75 %

01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.520
water. Yeah, okay, fine. As long as we're all

01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:21.619
on the same page. It's just such a fucking stupid...

01:09:21.619 --> 01:09:25.100
Let me just check my notes. Yeah, yeah, okay,

01:09:25.180 --> 01:09:29.739
yeah. Did you stop reading... Barry, mate, Barry,

01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:31.819
come here, come here. Did you stop reading the

01:09:31.819 --> 01:09:33.859
notes when you just saw carbon -based life form?

01:09:34.390 --> 01:09:36.670
Do you not see in the big writing below it that

01:09:36.670 --> 01:09:39.590
says, really lots of fucking water? Yes, Barry.

01:09:39.609 --> 01:09:43.829
I know we all like carbon. Barry, we rely on

01:09:43.829 --> 01:09:49.449
carbon. We know that. But there's other places,

01:09:49.609 --> 01:09:54.970
Barry. We could have gone somewhere else. But

01:09:54.970 --> 01:09:58.609
yeah, it's just... That's just my feeling. I

01:09:58.609 --> 01:10:03.770
don't think it deserves the... position it necessarily

01:10:03.770 --> 01:10:07.449
gets yes the effects were groundbreaking yes

01:10:07.449 --> 01:10:12.970
i like the idea of the musical language the film

01:10:12.970 --> 01:10:17.029
itself though i think i think it's it's it's

01:10:17.029 --> 01:10:20.529
good for sci -fi because people probably looked

01:10:20.529 --> 01:10:24.329
at it and said how can we not do this but also

01:10:24.329 --> 01:10:26.569
encapsulate some of the ideas they did have in

01:10:26.569 --> 01:10:30.460
this I think it's a, how can we make a sci -fi

01:10:30.460 --> 01:10:33.180
film that isn't just running away from a scary

01:10:33.180 --> 01:10:37.300
monster? Yeah, it tries to be different. It tries

01:10:37.300 --> 01:10:41.319
to be different, but we still don't. No, whether

01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:42.979
we should actually be scared of those aliens.

01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:45.260
Why were they abducting people? Why are they

01:10:45.260 --> 01:10:46.899
probing? They're probing the fuck out of all

01:10:46.899 --> 01:10:48.680
of them, aren't they? Absolutely. Barry's never

01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:49.460
walked straight since. Did you see how all those

01:10:49.460 --> 01:10:51.260
blokes were walking when they come off of that?

01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:54.039
They were all real fucking upright, weren't they?

01:10:54.699 --> 01:10:59.479
No one had a fucking pep in their step. I did

01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:02.260
like that comment. Einstein was right. Oh, come

01:11:02.260 --> 01:11:04.460
on. Einstein was one of them. Yeah. That was

01:11:04.460 --> 01:11:08.899
brilliant. I told you there's a thingy from aliens,

01:11:09.140 --> 01:11:14.060
isn't it? Oh, yes, yes, yes, you said. Sorry,

01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:17.479
everyone. Thingy from Aliens. The guy who plays

01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:21.180
the robot in Aliens. Which robot? Bishop or?

01:11:21.579 --> 01:11:23.939
Yeah, Bishop. Yeah, the guy who plays Bishop.

01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.659
It was Bishop. He plays a character called Robert.

01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:31.140
Robert. Yes, it surprised me when you said that

01:11:31.140 --> 01:11:33.119
because I hadn't even picked up on it. Excuse

01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:36.579
me. So, yeah, you're absolutely right. A complete

01:11:36.579 --> 01:11:38.720
little bit part as well, isn't it? Lance Henriksen.

01:11:38.899 --> 01:11:41.279
Lance Henriksen, yeah. A complete bit part. Yeah.

01:11:43.699 --> 01:11:46.300
Yeah, it was a bit... I would say it was a little

01:11:46.300 --> 01:11:48.380
bit odd when the alien was doing his hand signals

01:11:48.380 --> 01:11:50.439
because it was a little bit like a nasty salute.

01:11:51.180 --> 01:11:57.819
Yes. I was like... It was very Elon. Yeah. Okay,

01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:00.880
well, look, let's wrap it up. Overall, you didn't

01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:03.380
like it. I did, but we have the same opinion

01:12:03.380 --> 01:12:05.720
on every single scene. Well, that's the thing,

01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:08.539
isn't it? You like it for the reasons you like

01:12:08.539 --> 01:12:10.760
it. I dislike it for the reasons that we both

01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:14.439
agree on. It wasn't enough to make me like it,

01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:17.260
whereas you got enough from it to say, actually,

01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:21.960
as much of the bits we agree on still are. And

01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:24.399
that's absolutely fair. I'm actually glad that

01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:26.520
we live in a world that that can happen because

01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:30.689
since introducing the whole spin the... spin

01:12:30.689 --> 01:12:33.310
the film idea. So it's called the Untitled Roulette.

01:12:33.770 --> 01:12:35.789
Untitled Roulette. Since we've introduced that,

01:12:35.949 --> 01:12:38.729
this was a perfect one to do because neither

01:12:38.729 --> 01:12:40.090
of us really remember the film. We would never

01:12:40.090 --> 01:12:42.050
have chosen this film. No, we never would have

01:12:42.050 --> 01:12:46.270
because it is just one that would never have

01:12:46.270 --> 01:12:49.229
come to mind. So, no, I'm looking forward to

01:12:49.229 --> 01:12:58.550
spinning the wheel. Spin it! Transfer complete.

01:12:59.420 --> 01:13:03.340
Okay, here we are again. Second time, Untitled

01:13:03.340 --> 01:13:07.739
Roulette. TJ, spin that wheel. Right, here we

01:13:07.739 --> 01:13:17.220
go. How do I do it? That's the problem. Um...

01:13:17.220 --> 01:13:23.260
A 1995 film I have never, ever heard of. Okay.

01:13:23.739 --> 01:13:28.319
Strange Days. Strange... Strange Days. Strange

01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:34.699
Days. Strange Days from 1995. Right, get our

01:13:34.699 --> 01:13:36.800
IMDb up because I've never heard of it either.

01:13:37.699 --> 01:13:40.359
Ralph Fiennes. And Ralph Fiennes is amazing.

01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:44.720
A black marketer tries to save a woman in 1999

01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:49.760
in Los Angeles. How on earth is this considered

01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:53.359
sci -fi? Yeah, what makes it? Oh, it's got 7

01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:58.800
.2 IMDb. Great sci -fi thriller. Everyone's saying

01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:01.399
it's sci -fi. Cyber thriller, cyberpunk, dystopian

01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:04.319
sci -fi. Awesome. Okay, wicked. Cool. Sounds

01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:06.979
good. So we've got Ralph Fiennes, Angela Bassett,

01:14:06.979 --> 01:14:09.979
Juliette Lewis, Tom... There's not many names

01:14:09.979 --> 01:14:13.520
I recognise on this. Vincent De Fornio, we know

01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:17.340
him. Oh, William Fichtner. And you'll know him

01:14:17.340 --> 01:14:20.439
as soon as you see his face. All I can think

01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:22.020
of is Armageddon playing the grumpy astronaut.

01:14:22.020 --> 01:14:24.640
Oh, we know who these are. Okay, so Vincent...

01:14:25.350 --> 01:14:31.109
D 'Onoforio. D 'Onoforio. He is in, what's it

01:14:31.109 --> 01:14:36.550
called? Full Metal Jacket. Yes. And he is in

01:14:36.550 --> 01:14:40.550
Daredevil. Daredevil. What's the guy in Daredevil?

01:14:40.550 --> 01:14:43.529
The main bad guy, Kingpin in Daredevil. William

01:14:43.529 --> 01:14:50.369
Fisk. Who else we got? Okay, Tom Sizemore. Oh,

01:14:50.390 --> 01:14:52.050
well, what we can do. Who's in Saving Private

01:14:52.050 --> 01:14:54.880
Ryan, Black Hawk Down. We could just click play

01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.880
trailer. Seeing I'm connected to Bluetooth. Yeah,

01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:01.840
go then. Put the trailer on. Hang on. It's loading.

01:15:03.420 --> 01:15:13.960
Oh, it's green. It's not red. Ah, boo. Have you

01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.359
ever jacked in? Have you ever wired tripped?

01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:23.510
Jacked off. Oh, look at that. This is not like

01:15:23.510 --> 01:15:29.710
TV only better. This is life. It's a piece of

01:15:29.710 --> 01:15:33.170
somebody's life. It's about the stuff that you

01:15:33.170 --> 01:15:35.550
can't have, right? The forbidden fruit straight

01:15:35.550 --> 01:15:37.430
from the cerebral cortex. Oh, so it looks like

01:15:37.430 --> 01:15:40.270
you're literally going living out someone's life.

01:15:40.409 --> 01:15:49.329
Yeah. The last night of the last year of this

01:15:49.329 --> 01:15:52.609
century. I'm the magic man. got something to

01:15:52.609 --> 01:15:54.649
do with the water sooner or later it washes up

01:15:54.649 --> 01:16:04.850
on your beach fan mail from some flounder it's

01:16:04.850 --> 01:16:06.909
the dark end of the street how do you like it

01:16:06.909 --> 01:16:11.409
now he records it all everything and gives it

01:16:11.409 --> 01:16:16.250
to you so what you're watching you're literally

01:16:16.250 --> 01:16:33.140
jacking in and watching someone's the issue is

01:16:33.140 --> 01:16:36.180
on whether you're paranoid lenny the issue is

01:16:36.180 --> 01:16:39.260
whether you're paranoid enough no more games

01:16:39.260 --> 01:16:40.819
whatever's going on you have to get out of here

01:16:40.819 --> 01:16:45.960
this looks really good this looks cool It can

01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:48.539
change things. Things that need changing before

01:16:48.539 --> 01:16:51.600
we all go off the end of the road. Okay, I'm

01:16:51.600 --> 01:17:01.060
into this. Well, maybe it's time for a war. Okay,

01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:03.760
right. Let's stop it because he's going to spoil

01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:06.960
too much for us. That is... Well, yeah, there's

01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:09.119
a good another minute of that bloody trailer

01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:16.010
to go. I'm secretly... Not secretly, I'm... very

01:17:16.010 --> 01:17:20.630
much looking forward to that um yeah wicked that's

01:17:20.630 --> 01:17:25.350
that's completely unexpected right so it was

01:17:25.350 --> 01:17:29.250
a strange days yeah it's not available on anything

01:17:29.250 --> 01:17:33.369
even to buy so we'll have to rely on good old

01:17:33.369 --> 01:17:36.029
youtube i would imagine yeah if it's not what

01:17:36.029 --> 01:17:40.189
we've found is if something's ever not on any

01:17:40.189 --> 01:17:44.069
platform at all you will find it on youtube at

01:17:44.069 --> 01:17:49.899
some point Strange Days, full movie. Someone's

01:17:49.899 --> 01:17:54.239
done it in 41 parts. No, there it is. Strange

01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:56.479
Days, full movie, knowledge and facts. I'll find

01:17:56.479 --> 01:17:59.760
you in about 1 hour 53. Yeah, is that the full

01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:01.779
film though or is that them literally? No, that's

01:18:01.779 --> 01:18:03.520
a bloke talking through it, mate, I'm afraid.

01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:07.159
Oh, boo. Boo, I don't want your knowledge and

01:18:07.159 --> 01:18:11.100
facts because I don't care. Anyway, we will find

01:18:11.100 --> 01:18:12.680
a copy of it somehow. We'll find a way of getting

01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:15.300
on with it. We'll get it. That's absolutely fine.

01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:17.300
We'll make that happen. I'm looking forward to

01:18:17.300 --> 01:18:23.340
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