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Jehovah's Witness? No, sir. Federal Bureau of

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Investigation. Where are my shoes? Right in front

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of you, dear. Where they're supposed to be. Everyone

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in the order knew Anakin Skywalker. Whether it

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happens in a hundred years or a thousand years

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or a million years, eventually our sun will grow

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cold and go out. Are you alone here? Oh, hardly.

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Not all these cats. Hello, mate. Hello, mate.

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How you doing? Yeah, we've only been sat here

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for nearly an hour. Yeah, I've been rocking backwards

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and forwards. But to be fair, while you've been

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doing that, I've been cultivating using Suno,

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the AI that makes music. And I'm currently cultivating.

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Cultivating. I guess that's a word you could

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use for it. I'm building a Star Trek heavy metal

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album. So, so far we've got We Were Made to Boldly

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Go as the opening soundtrack. Then we've got

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Queen of the Obvious, followed by The Dirty Doctor

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and then The Riker Maneuver. So far, those are

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the songs that have come up. Queen of the Obvious

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is at the Borg. Queen of the Obvious is a song

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about why we all hate the other Troy. You need

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a Borg song now. Oh, yes. Borg Queen. It needs

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to be like a really heavy. It should be like

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an instrumental, shouldn't it? So it's just literally

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one. It needs to be repetitive. Zero, one, zero,

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one, one, one, zero, zero. Which is binary, yeah.

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What's that? German metal band? Oh, Rammstein.

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Rammstein, but in binary. Yes, possibly. Eagle

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-eared. Eagle -eared. You say eagle eyes. What's

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the ear version? What? You know, if you're saying

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eagle -eyed viewers, what's the podcast ear version

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of eagle -eyed? Send your answers into a postcode

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to Karen's address, which is, let me just get

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up on my phone. Owl -eared. Owl -eared. Yeah.

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Ears of an owl. Yeah. For the owl -eared listener,

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there was a, I guess, the intro. Obviously, we

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can't do that. It's the way it works. It has

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to be next week, so it's going to be next week.

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So there's, this is just the opening, then we're

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missing a section. We are, yes. Well, unless

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you want the Starfleet Academy to be its entire

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own section. How long do we want this podcast

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to go on for? It's 10 o 'clock. You've been here

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for an hour already. No, you know, let's, what

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should we discuss? Okay, well, new section, new

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section, new section, new section. Enter authorization

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code. It's not shit, but it's not great. Yeah,

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yeah. I think that's a real good way of putting

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it. There were things I did like, absolutely,

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surprisingly liked, things I didn't, which I

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wasn't surprised I didn't like, if I'm going

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to be perfectly honest. Let's just say I really

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don't like being spoon -fed things, and that's

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exactly what this series is. doing in that very

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first episode now i haven't got to episode two

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yet spoilers everyone for starfleet academy episode

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one and two well i've seen episode two you haven't

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i'm looking forward to watching it though that's

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the difference so the first one very much spoon

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for spoon feeding we're all different blah blah

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blah and that's what makes us great we don't

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need that spoon fed anymore no we can accept

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that that's fine um and you're right there's

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bits in it that i really didn't Didn't like the

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ship design. I will never be on board with the

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whole magnetic floating nacelles. Floating nacelles.

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But the fact that it just looks like the Starfleet

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logo that they now use is just stupid. So I don't

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like the USS Athena. I don't like that it lands

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on Earth and becomes the... See, I disagree with

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you there. I didn't mind that. I thought it was

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a bit of an interesting kind of thing and it

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made sense for the nacelles. But I mean, it actually

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would have been better. If it still did that,

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but it was like a space station that came down

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and uncoupled and you saw the vents expressing

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gas into the air and things coming off and then

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landing and slotting into positions. I don't

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see the point to it. You could just build it

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on the ground. I'm guessing it's been destroyed,

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obviously. It's been many hundreds of years since.

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The narratives that we know about with like Deep

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Space Nine and whatever and the burns that happened.

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Well, they imply, I don't know if it's in the

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second episode. I can't remember. They're blowing

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into one. The captain, Nala Ake. Nala Ake. Hated

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that character. She does say about the school

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being able to go off and do practical lessons

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by being able to take off and fly off. But I

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think you just have a spaceship that does that.

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In reality, you'd have a spaceship. Going back

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to what I was just saying then, so even though

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we're 100 years from now, I would have loved

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for us, like, look, you're on Bajor. There's

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Deep Space Nine up there. And just have, we've

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retrofitted Deep Space Nine because we're trying

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to start Starfleet Academy. Yeah, that would

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be better. You've got a ship and you've got this

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old hung thing that we've got history with Cisco

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and you could have an entire bit where she walks

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into Cisco's office and there's still the baseball

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on the table. Would he still be there in the

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wormhole? Oh yes, in the wormy hole. Because

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isn't he like an end to godlike entity in the

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wormhole? But you could do some really good building

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upon that. Yeah. And instead of kind of just

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starting... Is the Cisco actor still alive? Oh

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yeah. Okay, well then he could come back. yeah

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exactly there's just there's things i'm not too

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thrilled about at the same time all the things

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that people are ranting and raving about oh why

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are they wearing glasses it's the 38 but i did

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say about that at one point yeah and look look

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you know what i'll hold my hands up i saw that

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first picture and i i joined in calling it starfleet

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beverly hills yeah we both didn't like that and

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I shouldn't have. I should have absolutely respected

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the creativity and the creators and that this

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may not be something made for me, that it was

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going to be for someone else. But you know what?

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I thoroughly enjoyed it. I take a step back and

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I go, I will apologize. I absolutely joined in

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on the bandwagon without actually giving it a

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chance. And the reason I gave it a chance was

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because after that stupid picture, they then

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released the... first like three minutes of the

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main episode yep which is the brilliant battle

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set and it was excellent really well done i want

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to just preface a lot of stuff we're talking

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about there's a someone i i follow on the socials

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and on youtube i saw him originally on tiktok

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his name is colin weldon yeah he's an actor and

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star trek nerd essentially so go on youtube at

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colin weldon actor to watch i linked it on the

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sci -fi show socials he's got like a nine video

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minute video where he talks about the first two

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episodes yes and his opinion it's interesting

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because he's like you he seems to just know a

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lot about star trek seems to be able to absorb

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it where i i couldn't have a conversation with

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you two in front of me about star trek particularly

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brinley because i wouldn't be able to recollect

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a lot of the stuff right but um interesting that

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i agreed with a lot of things he said we kind

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of came to the same kind of thing but then there's

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also he basically had the opposite opinion on

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the characters than i did all the characters

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i liked he didn't yeah a lot of characters he

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liked i didn't which i thought was weird but

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considering we actually agreed on everything

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else it's interesting like okay so the hologram

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girl i find her incredibly annoying yeah i understand

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she is meant to be that way so i don't think

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that's a fault of the actor the actress actor

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well i don't know what they want to be called

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nowadays but in any way no no absolutely not

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and it probably isn't the fault of any of the

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actors or actresses it's always the writing it's

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how they've been told to portray the character

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and it's a for me my first words to you and then

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you watched the episode and came back and you

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said you agree was great we've now got an even

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more annoying tilly yeah i absolutely agree but

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who I also don't like the captain, even remotely.

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For me, she's got no redeeming features whatsoever.

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I hated her character. Every moment she's on

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the screen, I'm like, ugh, this isn't a show

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about this captain. No, you know what? I didn't

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mind her. Part of me kind of gets where people

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are coming from. Again, hundreds and hundreds

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of videos on TikTok about why can't she sit in

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a chair properly. And yes, the first time you

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see her sitting in the chair, it's like... what

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on earth are you doing i don't get how you've

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actually got into that shape in that chair but

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at the same time she's quite small though she

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at the same time she's like hundreds of years

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old she doesn't really give a shit about this

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which is where you get look please come back

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and help us sort of thing yeah and realistically

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do you think picard sat there for an entire 12

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hour shift No, he fucked off to his waiting room,

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didn't he? Whoever sat in the con, I'm telling

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you now, did not sit bolt upright for the entire

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12 hour shift. But there were a few nice touches.

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There's a couple of nice touches from her in

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episode two. She walks around with nothing on

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her feet. I'm like, the way she acts as a captain,

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I imagine I would probably be doing the same.

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I would be sat on the chair with my feet up.

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You know, there's a bit where the computer's

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asking for her seating preference and she's going

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up and down and up. That was funny. I laughed

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at it. I just, she does have moments that are

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funny. And I'm like, and yeah, when she's walking

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around barefooted and she gets told off by like

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a senior member of the... the starflake which

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she basically just rubs off going no again i'm

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like yeah i like that i can imagine you being

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captain or a captain did you know that you've

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got your cornflakes down your top oh shit not

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again yeah fuck i'd be i'd be eating my cornflakes

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there that would be the difference between me

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as i'd be i'd be very i'll be a very millennial

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boss you'd be like captain sulu with his cup

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of tea next to the chair yeah It'll be in my

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flask. It'll be like in a van. I have a special

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little flask. Anyway, but majority of the time,

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I think I didn't like her there at all. Whereas

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the character I thought I was going to hate,

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I loved. And it was Lurathok, who a lot of people

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have not liked. The weird blue, who is also some

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kind of Klingon, but not a Klingon. So she is

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Jem 'Hadar and Klingon. merged sort of species.

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I think she is hilarious. She's hated because,

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again, you've got all the Die Hardies out there

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and the Die Hard tracks are like, well, the Jem

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'Hadar are a genetically created species and

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they were all males. How on earth have we suddenly

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ended up with a female? They were clones, blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but she's half

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Klingon, so obviously half Klingon's fucking

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female then. There you go. And it's a few hundred

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years in the future. I'm pretty sure we got past

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test tube babies in our era. Therefore, whatever

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the fuck is going on in the future, I'm sure

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they can merge a couple of people together. Look

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at fucking Tuvok and Neelix. They can all just

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leave that, surely. She's hilarious. She's both

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very funny and a massive arsehole. yeah like

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and i really liked that i've got to say the first

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time you see her on screen she's shouting at

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him making doing the push -ups and i was i was

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wearing i'm not sure yeah something doesn't feel

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right but then the whole bit where she's like

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you are not going to kill me dude just literally

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laying into everyone while dying like i quite

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like you is i don't know this might be episode

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two there's a bit where she's got don't want

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to spoil it for you but she's got all of the

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students there And she's like, yeah, she's yelling

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at them all. And then she like picks on one of

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them and yells and yells and yells. And then

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that one runs off crying. She's like, I can always

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pick the runners. It's just like, she's so funny.

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But then there's always, they've managed to put

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a fair, not a fair bit of comedy, but just enough

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comedy in there as well. Yeah. So things like

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when they're all queuing up to see the doctor.

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I've swallowed my con badge already. It's like

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as if it's a regular thing. Yes, you've already

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done it. And he finds all the weird things in

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the guy's intestines. It's like, what have you

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been doing laying in bogs? No more bogs for you.

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Tell me if you had a bowel movement. He's like,

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actually don't. And then the whole throwback

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to Voyager as well when Kim tries to give him

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the... normal tricorder no medical tricorder

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they had to do a bit of fan service yeah which

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i understand okay essentially the main character

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essentially is caleb yes i would say he's the

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main antagonist but he i couldn't get past looking

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at how fucking jacked he is and how tall he is

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compared to everybody he's like um what's wonder

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woman what she what race of person is she it's

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as a i know what you mean yeah it's like she's

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like a male one of those i just like and yeah

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i think the annoying thing is and i think unfortunately

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a lot of people in this day and age will not

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give a tv series more than five minutes and if

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in that first five minutes you dislike something

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a lot of people will walk away from that and

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i don't think i'm unfair in saying that no i

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think especially when you've got i would do that

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when you've got a franchise such as star trek

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i think that's an even stronger chance and i've

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got to say the first five minutes of the episode

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good god what was the cameraman on literally

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i understand you want to do that kind of natural

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thing so you you look at the 50s and the 60s

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cameras were on a fixed podium yep and then even

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through kind of 70s and 80s again fixed podium

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then you get to the 90s the early 2000s and you're

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kind of getting not shaky cam footage but you're

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getting people kind of showing well what we want

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is actually to capture it as if the camera's

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in on the action so it bounces around a little

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bit so you you get that feeling that actually

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yeah this is a fluid god damn it the first few

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minutes of this thing while the mum's talking

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to the son the camera's It's like there's a fucking

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earthquake going on. It was ridiculous. If this

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is going to be the quality of the filming of

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this, I'm really unhappy. Thankfully, that didn't

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carry on throughout. But it was really, really

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disorientating. Again, I don't want to go back

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to Caleb all the time. Not Caleb, sorry. Colin.

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Colin Weldon's thing. He was saying he thinks

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episode one and two should be swapped around.

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I disagree with that. I do think he, you know.

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I do think it is really revolving around Caleb.

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You need that bit at the beginning. And it sets

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up the baddie as well, because he's clearly going

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to be coming back. Oh, the baddie's definitely

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going to be coming back. I think you could have

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got rid of that first couple of minutes where

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he's being abandoned by, well, not abandoned

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by his mother, but the mother's taken away. I

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actually found that really hard to watch. I did.

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Yeah, I didn't like that. But you take away that

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bit. And you explain it later. You could have

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explained it later. You take it away at the beginning.

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Then you just have him running, looking for this

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person that we don't really know who it is, but

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he's looking for them. Then the whole arrest.

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Then the begrudging into Starfleet. And then

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later on... It could be a secret reveal. He's

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revealing to... You nearly caused our ship to

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be destroyed. What the fuck were you doing? Then

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you expand out on the story then. Well, in episode

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two, there's a perfect... position for that to

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happen because of his interactions with another

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character who we don't see in episode one right

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where that would be the perfect time but you

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say he could be pouring his heart out to this

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person and give that reveal of why he hates um

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exactly and that would have been a better intro

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because you would have had the action of the

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prison freighter yeah that action scene would

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have done so much better i concur i agree with

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that but um yeah it's it's hard i would say i'm

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50 50 on the characters as in i like 50 of them

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and i dislike 50 of them and that's not saying

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that they may not grow on me I didn't like the

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whole jock scene where the jock comes and takes

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on the clear. Oh, look, he's got binoculars.

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Oh, that's, yeah, that was a standout moment.

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And that was the worrying thing about the 90210

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thing that we brought up. Yeah, exactly. This

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is what we didn't want. That's exactly, you're

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right. It's exactly what I didn't want. I just

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don't think that would be happening. I've been

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to university. That doesn't happen. And I see

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Starfleet as a university kind of college thing.

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It didn't happen in college either, and I didn't

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go to a particularly good college. And we're

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hundreds of years in the future when we're meant

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to be better humans now. Yeah, and I know they're

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all different races and stuff, but I just, yeah,

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I just don't think that would be a scenario that's

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happening. No. I quite like the fact he's a birdwatcher

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by the way, the Klingon. I thought that was quite

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sweet. I like the Klingon. Yeah, I ain't got

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any issues with the Klingon. I mean, there's,

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even after episode two, it's not in it enough

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for you to have an issue. I do have a feeling

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at some point. He's going to lose his rag. And

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we've got this all... My mother taught me to

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be calm. That's why we do birdwatching. We do

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all of this. And I reckon there's going to be

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an anger issue at some point. Is he Falkling

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on a half? I don't know. I can't remember what

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they said. I'm pretty sure he's... Either way,

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I reckon he's going to, there's going to be a

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point where he gets pushed too far. Oh, absolutely.

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And the old Klingon blood's going to come out

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and they're going to hopefully use that. I'd

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like you to watch episode two. So before next

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time, so we can talk about it again. I mean,

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there'll be another episode. Watch two and three.

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I'll watch it as well. And we talk about it again.

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It's going to be like our new Lower Decks, but

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not enjoying it as much. But can I just say,

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and feel free to disagree with me, but. as much

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as i'm enjoying it and i am going to watch the

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rest of it and hopefully it will carry on getting

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better and it won't do what sadly a lot of star

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trek has done in recent years which is first

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few episodes are brilliant and then suddenly

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it swan dives and breaks its neck like lara croft

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and tomb raider one i'm hoping it doesn't do

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that but for me I wish it just didn't follow

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the Discovery timeline because for me it's tainted.

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You know I dislike Discovery. You know what I

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feel about Discovery too. And I genuinely would

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have loved, and I know this is because my Star

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Trek was the next generation, but I would have

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loved maybe Starfleet Academy. Picard at the

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Academy, his early years, almost like a young...

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young indiana jones young picard i know we just

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got a series about picard but okay voyager comes

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home seven of nine oh well done you've got through

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all of that now she's got to go through the academy

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but i mean where is star trek going is like how

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many seasons if there'll be two three i would

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imagine this will get two seasons and it'll be

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cancelled okay because okay let's well because

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it's probably not gonna be that popular exactly

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so let's say two for this we know there's going

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to be five of strange new worlds yeah we're on

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four so that means the last season of strange

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new worlds will be at the same time probably

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ish as the second season of this yeah lower decks

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is finished i saw rumors of them talking to the

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janeway actors about a janeway version like picard

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yeah but the one that she's in isn't on anymore

00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:04.660
Kate Mulgrew, yeah. So Prodigy is gone. Prodigy

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stopped. There's a cameo, by the way, in episode

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two. I thought there might be. Not with her.

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With someone else. Yeah, Rock. Oh, you've seen

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it. I've seen pictures everywhere. What's next?

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Because that was the other thing. What are Paramount

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going to do next? Because then they've finished

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everything. Yeah. There's nothing happening.

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And this is what I was going to say. What they

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could have done, Starfleet Academy, Pike, Kirk,

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right in the middle. see kirk's journey through

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the academy while strange new worlds is going

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on and then have him join the enterprise and

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then you can head off into the original series

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style of things there's just there's a lot i

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would have liked to have seen okay i don't mind

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them going in a different direction i understand

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that i understand that you can't keep hovering

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around unfortunately what people still call real

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star trek if you want to encourage new people

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to it. And that is what this is about. You've

00:21:03.930 --> 00:21:05.710
got to encourage new people to it. But if you're

00:21:05.710 --> 00:21:07.809
going to encourage people to it, you've got to

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do a fucking good job about actually making the

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show. You've got to attract the original people

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to start with as well. And you've got to stop

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canning everything after one or two seasons.

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I think Paramount is learning what Disney has

00:21:24.609 --> 00:21:29.319
learned. of star wars disney are correcting their

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mistakes with star wars now and i think that

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that paramount are just a few years behind that

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curve of being like oh we've already put money

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into all this other stuff we're going to have

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to at least follow it through try and get some

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of that back and then they need to bring in their

00:21:46.059 --> 00:21:50.140
own star trek genius you know like star wars

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have done can't remember his name um who they've

00:21:53.710 --> 00:21:56.630
got in charge of Lucasfilm now. They've got a

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new bloke in charge who knows everything about

00:22:00.609 --> 00:22:03.450
Star Wars. They need to do the same thing for

00:22:03.450 --> 00:22:05.890
Star Trek. It's going to go two ways, I think.

00:22:06.210 --> 00:22:11.029
I've said before, I would love to have a reimagining

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of the original series with the new actors. Yes.

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I would love that. as just its own thing. Just

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pretend that all the other original series didn't

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happen. It doesn't have to be, you don't have

00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.220
to try and paint it with multiverse and all this

00:22:24.220 --> 00:22:27.339
other bullshit. Just let it just be. But you

00:22:27.339 --> 00:22:29.220
could have done this as a crossover between Strange

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New Olds and TOS and have something in the middle.

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Yeah. Yeah. And that's it. Or... They are supposed

00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.660
to be doing more films. They're supposed to be

00:22:38.660 --> 00:22:40.480
starting the films again, aren't they? Yeah.

00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:43.099
I wonder if that's what's going to happen. They're

00:22:43.099 --> 00:22:45.240
going to finish off these series, the films will

00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:47.480
come out, and that will be the reboot. Yeah,

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but if Section 31 is any way to go by films,

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then we are in for massive, massive problems.

00:22:52.500 --> 00:22:54.599
Well, let's just fucking hope that that's just

00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:56.920
a blip. Let's just hope that they actually go,

00:22:57.900 --> 00:22:59.700
actually, you know what? Seven of Nine is a captain

00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:01.460
of a ship. That would be great. Seeing as we

00:23:01.460 --> 00:23:04.180
saw at the end of Picard 3. Yeah. Yeah, you know

00:23:04.180 --> 00:23:06.869
what? I would love that series. Most people would.

00:23:07.069 --> 00:23:09.170
Yeah. Are they going to do it? Probably not.

00:23:09.309 --> 00:23:16.950
No. No. Right. Okay. That will forever not be

00:23:16.950 --> 00:23:19.509
on the recording. Absolutely not. That definitely

00:23:19.509 --> 00:23:21.630
cannot be on the recording. Right. Okay. So what

00:23:21.630 --> 00:23:23.369
have you been up to? Other than Starfleet. What

00:23:23.369 --> 00:23:25.269
have you been up to? Well, a little bit more

00:23:25.269 --> 00:23:27.329
Starfleet because I re -watched Star Trek, the

00:23:27.329 --> 00:23:30.230
2009 film, the Chris Pine one. Nice. I forgot

00:23:30.230 --> 00:23:31.930
how much I enjoyed it. You were re -watching.

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You were going through them, weren't you? Yeah.

00:23:33.430 --> 00:23:36.549
I just forgot how much I enjoyed it. I re -watched

00:23:36.549 --> 00:23:38.910
it today. Really good film. Really fun. Is this

00:23:38.910 --> 00:23:40.730
the second one? That's the first one where Chris

00:23:40.730 --> 00:23:44.529
Pine is beaten up at the beginning and decides

00:23:44.529 --> 00:23:48.549
to join Starfleet and it's the Romulans who've

00:23:48.549 --> 00:23:50.650
come to kill Spock and we get old Spock and all

00:23:50.650 --> 00:23:52.970
that. I think it's a good film. It's the third

00:23:52.970 --> 00:23:56.190
one. Can't stand the lens flare in it. JJ Abrams

00:23:56.190 --> 00:23:58.349
loves it. I know and it's just ridiculous. It's

00:23:58.349 --> 00:24:02.409
so ridiculous. Yeah, he does it in that. The

00:24:02.409 --> 00:24:04.890
first of the remakes of the Star Wars, the redoes

00:24:04.890 --> 00:24:06.670
of the Star Wars, isn't he? It's just so stupid.

00:24:06.769 --> 00:24:09.410
Anyway, watch that. Really enjoyed it. Short

00:24:09.410 --> 00:24:12.650
Circuit 2 I bought on streaming. That's been

00:24:12.650 --> 00:24:13.849
a long time since I've seen that. I love Short

00:24:13.849 --> 00:24:17.089
Circuit 1. I love Short Circuit 2. And you never

00:24:17.089 --> 00:24:19.150
see anyone put Short Circuit 2 on anywhere. Short

00:24:19.150 --> 00:24:22.029
Circuit 1 gets rerun. The second one never does.

00:24:22.190 --> 00:24:26.009
And it's so good. And I've got notes here. Racist

00:24:26.009 --> 00:24:29.710
in under two minutes. Well, that actor was white,

00:24:29.769 --> 00:24:32.170
though, wasn't he? Yeah, Fisher Stevens was actually

00:24:32.170 --> 00:24:35.049
white, which doesn't help. And then you've got

00:24:35.049 --> 00:24:37.930
the character that's playing Fred, and I can't

00:24:37.930 --> 00:24:40.170
think of his name, famous actor, within two minutes

00:24:40.170 --> 00:24:42.549
says, did they not teach you that when you got

00:24:42.549 --> 00:24:46.369
off the banana boat? Oh, that's bad. Is this

00:24:46.369 --> 00:24:52.710
80s? Yeah. What, 83? No. Three or seven. They're

00:24:52.710 --> 00:24:54.170
the two numbers I'm putting in, three or seven.

00:24:54.609 --> 00:24:57.549
Let's have a look. Short. Oh, no, that's Shirt

00:24:57.549 --> 00:25:00.069
Circuit. The Shirt Circuit, that's the Pornhub

00:25:00.069 --> 00:25:04.809
version. Short Circuit to 88. And Michael McKean

00:25:04.809 --> 00:25:08.359
was the actor I was thinking about. But yeah,

00:25:08.460 --> 00:25:11.160
it's just such a glorious film. I love it to

00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:14.160
bits. The entire end bit, when you get a holding

00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:16.920
out for a hero by Bonnie Tyler kick in, him ending

00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:19.380
up gold as the final thing. It's a wonderful

00:25:19.380 --> 00:25:21.220
film. Okay, now you're saying it. I remember

00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:24.400
you saying it. Come on, number five. And shocking

00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:26.599
him with the defib. It's like, yes, come on.

00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.019
I tell you what, they don't make films like they

00:25:29.019 --> 00:25:31.559
used to, do they? Oh my God, no. Horrendously

00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:35.490
racist and terrible. No. It's still one of my

00:25:35.490 --> 00:25:37.509
favorites. I love it. Yeah, it's a great film.

00:25:37.589 --> 00:25:39.369
I know you're saying I'm remembering it. And

00:25:39.369 --> 00:25:41.490
then hopefully next week, if we get some time,

00:25:41.490 --> 00:25:44.309
that is, I saw 28 Years Later, The Bone Temple,

00:25:44.430 --> 00:25:46.730
and I want to go and see it again. Yeah, it's

00:25:46.730 --> 00:25:48.690
not worked out for me this week. No, it's not

00:25:48.690 --> 00:25:50.650
worked out for any of us. Next week, I should

00:25:50.650 --> 00:25:53.809
have time to do this. But even if it's just to

00:25:53.809 --> 00:25:58.069
see one particular scene in it. Tamsin's massive

00:25:58.069 --> 00:26:00.630
cock. Oh yeah, no, no, that's plenty in it. That

00:26:00.630 --> 00:26:03.299
is plenty in it. Can you tell me, actually, This

00:26:03.299 --> 00:26:05.420
isn't spoilers. Are they still naked or have

00:26:05.420 --> 00:26:08.279
they covered them up? He covers up for a moment,

00:26:08.339 --> 00:26:13.119
but there's a reason why you still see a huge

00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:15.140
amount of his cock. But what about the other

00:26:15.140 --> 00:26:17.579
zombles? Oh, they're all naked. Okay, good. So

00:26:17.579 --> 00:26:20.240
who was it who said to what was it? James said

00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.079
it was you that said that there was outcry. So

00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:24.859
they're covering. Someone was talking about that.

00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:27.160
They were going to start covering them up. I'm

00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:28.940
glad that hasn't happened. And it does happen

00:26:28.940 --> 00:26:31.910
in a moment of it. But there's a reason behind

00:26:31.910 --> 00:26:35.069
it. That makes sense. And the one scene I want

00:26:35.069 --> 00:26:36.549
you to see in it that I just care about is the

00:26:36.549 --> 00:26:38.950
Ralph Fiennes scene. And James, who's listening,

00:26:39.089 --> 00:26:41.910
knows exactly that scene. And it's just fucking

00:26:41.910 --> 00:26:47.130
amazing. Ralph Fiennes just blows all acting

00:26:47.130 --> 00:26:50.150
ever out of the ocean. Does Samson come towards

00:26:50.150 --> 00:26:55.569
him and he goes, I've got this so, so much that

00:26:55.569 --> 00:26:58.109
I can't say without spoiling it. Let's try next

00:26:58.109 --> 00:27:01.289
week. Let's try and explain. As I was genuinely

00:27:01.289 --> 00:27:02.890
worried, are we going to end up going down this

00:27:02.890 --> 00:27:06.369
whole George A. Romero thing? That was my concern.

00:27:06.789 --> 00:27:09.549
And I'm not going to lie, there is a little bit

00:27:09.549 --> 00:27:14.710
there. But this makes way more sense. Okay. So

00:27:14.710 --> 00:27:16.930
I'm now really interested to see how they end

00:27:16.930 --> 00:27:19.849
this trilogy. Because it's a little bit like

00:27:19.849 --> 00:27:23.410
that in the film that shall not be named by the

00:27:23.410 --> 00:27:27.410
man who shall not be named. I am legend. Yeah.

00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.339
the i call them the light avoiders but the dark

00:27:31.339 --> 00:27:36.019
seekers they've got a rage virus but they are

00:27:36.019 --> 00:27:39.779
still kind of hierarchical and you know that's

00:27:39.779 --> 00:27:43.559
still in there kind of more like um more animal

00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:47.220
instinct and that's how i would like it to go

00:27:47.220 --> 00:27:50.279
with 28 years later bone temple and that that

00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.259
that makes sense i think i think not the romero

00:27:53.259 --> 00:27:55.460
version where we're pumping gas that's fucking

00:27:55.460 --> 00:27:59.619
dumb knowing how much you enjoyed The first film.

00:28:00.259 --> 00:28:03.380
Absolutely. And by first film, I mean 28 years

00:28:03.380 --> 00:28:05.539
later, not 28 days later. Surprised how much

00:28:05.539 --> 00:28:08.099
I liked it. You are going to love this. Good.

00:28:08.460 --> 00:28:09.920
Seriously, you are going to really love it. Were

00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.799
you alone in this as well? I was. That's hilarious.

00:28:13.500 --> 00:28:15.640
And it was like their third biggest screen as

00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.819
well. It was screen number three. I really wish

00:28:18.819 --> 00:28:21.140
that you'd been like Punk'd and it was on purpose.

00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:24.279
Sorry for all the children that don't know what

00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:26.759
Punk'd is. It is a television show that used

00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.359
to be on MTV. Late 90s, early noughties. Ashton

00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.019
Kutcher. Ashton Kutcher. Yeah, there you go.

00:28:33.019 --> 00:28:36.440
Where they used to play tricks on people. Those

00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.079
are all the films I've watched. We started well,

00:28:38.140 --> 00:28:39.539
I'm saying that. We started watching The Hunger

00:28:39.539 --> 00:28:43.009
Games with Kay. uh she's i don't want to watch

00:28:43.009 --> 00:28:46.890
i don't want to watch it so jim randomly just

00:28:46.890 --> 00:28:49.309
put the film on so me and tom are going to watch

00:28:49.309 --> 00:28:51.670
it then and then she slowly watched that then

00:28:51.670 --> 00:28:54.019
we got questions and then oh you are watching

00:28:54.019 --> 00:28:56.980
it are you yes shut up they're good films i like

00:28:56.980 --> 00:28:59.180
them i like all of them and i like the new ones

00:28:59.180 --> 00:29:01.079
they're doing too ah well you might be a bit

00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.119
jealous of this then oh yeah we like the new

00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:05.279
ones and the new one in november can't come soon

00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.779
enough yeah um i am taking jem in june for her

00:29:08.779 --> 00:29:12.779
birthday to the stage version oh i do and it's

00:29:12.779 --> 00:29:15.119
one of these stages that you sit all around the

00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.539
stage oh wow cool is this in london yeah where

00:29:18.539 --> 00:29:22.079
is it in london um right next to canary wolf

00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:23.880
i can't think of the name of the theater but

00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.960
i think that but it's it looks amazing wow that

00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:31.220
would be wicked i did love those and it's try

00:29:31.220 --> 00:29:33.720
not to be the book has she read the books she

00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:35.279
seems like she's read the books jem has read

00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:37.440
the book because they're not the same no no the

00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.819
books are way more brutal yeah but they they

00:29:40.819 --> 00:29:43.779
kept it to a 12 but they they did they have done

00:29:43.779 --> 00:29:46.119
a good job they have done a really good job and

00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:48.799
you don't after i mean obviously i listened to

00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.359
them listening to them and then going watching

00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.859
them at no point was i ever like uh uh you know

00:29:55.859 --> 00:29:59.099
they're ruining it i missed the cat piss never

00:29:59.099 --> 00:30:02.539
clean i missed that but i think that was probably

00:30:02.539 --> 00:30:06.119
it because we've said it loads of times the things

00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.880
that work in books don't always work in tv shows

00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:11.259
and no they just don't you just can't do it because

00:30:11.259 --> 00:30:15.549
and also with books But your imagination has

00:30:15.549 --> 00:30:18.170
a lot involved. And the way I perceive a book

00:30:18.170 --> 00:30:19.829
is going to be different than you perceive a

00:30:19.829 --> 00:30:21.990
book. How you build a character, how that character

00:30:21.990 --> 00:30:24.410
sounds, how they look. Exactly. It's never going

00:30:24.410 --> 00:30:26.450
to be quite the same with everybody. No. Okay.

00:30:26.609 --> 00:30:29.789
A prime example, Pierce Brown, who writes the

00:30:29.789 --> 00:30:31.789
Red Rising books, my favourite books of all time.

00:30:32.150 --> 00:30:36.049
He did an interview recently and he named an

00:30:36.049 --> 00:30:39.670
actor who he, or a character for something else

00:30:39.670 --> 00:30:44.759
that he had based Severa on. way, way away from

00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.799
what I'd ever imagined Severo was in my head

00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.420
to the point that I kind of instantly, purposely

00:30:50.420 --> 00:30:53.460
forgot what he said. Because I was like, that

00:30:53.460 --> 00:30:57.200
is not how I see Severo, even remotely. Yeah,

00:30:57.259 --> 00:30:59.019
fair enough. I'm going to look it up. I'm going

00:30:59.019 --> 00:31:01.380
to have to tell Karen because she loves those

00:31:01.380 --> 00:31:04.480
books too. Anyway, anything else? Yeah, the other

00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.309
films was... The other child who said, I don't

00:31:07.309 --> 00:31:10.130
want to watch this, Daddy. I don't like these

00:31:10.130 --> 00:31:12.490
sorts of films. Yeah, the other child. Yeah,

00:31:12.529 --> 00:31:14.750
the Etsy. I went, we're going to watch Toy Story,

00:31:14.849 --> 00:31:19.650
my all -time favorite film. And glued. Probably

00:31:19.650 --> 00:31:23.390
followed by Toy Story 2. We're watching that

00:31:23.390 --> 00:31:25.869
now, Daddy. Okay, we'll watch Toy Story 2. I

00:31:25.869 --> 00:31:28.349
went for a bath, came down. Toy Story 3 was there.

00:31:28.509 --> 00:31:31.109
Yeah. He's now got a Buzz Lightyear as well.

00:31:31.450 --> 00:31:35.509
Oh, did you? You've got an Amazon or do you get

00:31:35.509 --> 00:31:37.630
them from Facebook Marketplace? Amazon. Yeah,

00:31:37.690 --> 00:31:39.730
so you've got the one that talks and everything.

00:31:39.849 --> 00:31:43.430
It will talk to another... That's the one that

00:31:43.430 --> 00:31:47.390
I got tea for Christmas to replace the one I

00:31:47.390 --> 00:31:49.009
got on the Marketplace that eventually died.

00:31:49.349 --> 00:31:51.190
I would say the one thing I don't like about

00:31:51.190 --> 00:31:54.230
it, I find the arm with the judo chop action

00:31:54.230 --> 00:31:57.630
constantly is just pinging up on its own. And

00:31:57.630 --> 00:32:00.170
I'd quite like that to either have an option

00:32:00.170 --> 00:32:02.430
where you could just like twist the judo chop

00:32:02.430 --> 00:32:04.769
button and it just... disengages the arm and

00:32:04.769 --> 00:32:06.569
makes it poseable again. It's a little bit annoying,

00:32:06.630 --> 00:32:10.109
but the one thing that is bad about it is they

00:32:10.109 --> 00:32:13.990
have, unless mine's faulty, mine, T's, is faulty,

00:32:14.150 --> 00:32:20.509
the speaker for his arm laser is rubbish. Because

00:32:20.509 --> 00:32:24.609
the other one I have, I have, we have, sounds

00:32:24.609 --> 00:32:28.990
exactly like the film, whereas T's new one...

00:32:29.049 --> 00:32:31.710
Does not. And to the point where he even said,

00:32:31.809 --> 00:32:33.529
it doesn't sound right, Daddy. I'll send you

00:32:33.529 --> 00:32:35.490
a video of mine and I'll let you think. I can't

00:32:35.490 --> 00:32:37.349
think what it sounds like. I'll play both of

00:32:37.349 --> 00:32:40.950
ours. Ours was live. Loud, sorry, not live. Ours

00:32:40.950 --> 00:32:44.349
was loud. And he was giggling away at pressing

00:32:44.349 --> 00:32:47.930
it. So he was happy. But I can't, yeah, I'll

00:32:47.930 --> 00:32:49.869
have to double check. Might he got most fun at

00:32:49.869 --> 00:32:53.210
the fact the other arm could open up. Oh, yeah.

00:32:53.410 --> 00:32:55.529
Yeah, you can open up to get to the buttons.

00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.559
yeah inside on this one thing i'm not sure on

00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:02.000
why they did this why his wings fold differently

00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.140
to how they do in the the film i think because

00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:08.140
so in the film and the original toy they used

00:33:08.140 --> 00:33:11.059
to just push in yeah but it falls apart constantly

00:33:11.059 --> 00:33:14.640
i'm forever fixing it i think it's just a they've

00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.240
just done it because obviously the people who've

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.819
made the animated thing didn't think about how

00:33:19.819 --> 00:33:21.880
it would work as a toy whereas actually we have

00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.400
it as a toy the wings get stuck and they fall

00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:26.359
off and there's like string and stuff in there

00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:28.779
kind of helping it go and whilst the action is

00:33:28.779 --> 00:33:31.480
really nice and fun it's very easy for one of

00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:33.480
them to kind of come off its cogs and just flop

00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:36.460
around and i'm constantly repairing it whereas

00:33:36.460 --> 00:33:40.730
the new one it's built better yeah but they have

00:33:40.730 --> 00:33:43.309
cheaped out on the microphone the leds are really

00:33:43.309 --> 00:33:45.049
bright on it as well yeah they're neat because

00:33:45.049 --> 00:33:47.109
the again the original one doesn't have the leds

00:33:47.109 --> 00:33:48.670
on the wings and stuff which he does in the film

00:33:48.670 --> 00:33:50.190
which is quite surprising when they didn't put

00:33:50.190 --> 00:33:52.470
it in but the only reason we actually did get

00:33:52.470 --> 00:33:55.549
the new ones because the light on the laser arm

00:33:55.549 --> 00:33:58.750
failed oh yeah and that was the start and i kept

00:33:58.750 --> 00:34:00.650
repaying all the time and he was really gutted

00:34:00.650 --> 00:34:02.430
by that light and i was like i got a bit more

00:34:02.430 --> 00:34:05.609
money it is a big part of the film it's a big

00:34:05.609 --> 00:34:09.090
part of the character I'm so glad he's into it,

00:34:09.130 --> 00:34:12.429
though. He's loving it. And the first film is

00:34:12.429 --> 00:34:16.789
in my top ten films of all time, if not my favourite,

00:34:16.829 --> 00:34:19.170
just because it's just so lovely and it's so

00:34:19.170 --> 00:34:21.329
clever and there's so much about it that I could

00:34:21.329 --> 00:34:25.590
not ever be unhappy with. It's just so good.

00:34:25.949 --> 00:34:30.989
So, so good. And no doubt it will be remastered

00:34:30.989 --> 00:34:34.050
at some time by Disney. yeah well they're making

00:34:34.050 --> 00:34:36.750
another one i imagine remasters will come after

00:34:36.750 --> 00:34:39.949
which i don't want because part of the charm

00:34:39.949 --> 00:34:42.730
of it is that it looks old and that's how i remember

00:34:42.730 --> 00:34:46.750
it and how it grows seeing the first one but

00:34:46.750 --> 00:34:50.269
done in the style of toy story 4 would remove

00:34:50.269 --> 00:34:53.349
some of the magic behind it i like watching them

00:34:53.349 --> 00:34:55.769
one by one and seeing the improvements in technologies

00:34:55.769 --> 00:34:58.449
you go along yeah That's what's great about when

00:34:58.449 --> 00:35:00.550
you watch Monsters, Inc. and you see the hair,

00:35:00.690 --> 00:35:02.369
when you're first bringing the hair and stuff

00:35:02.369 --> 00:35:04.610
in. A few hundred hairs versus a million hairs

00:35:04.610 --> 00:35:08.869
per centimetre square. It was always... I remember

00:35:08.869 --> 00:35:10.869
when I used to do it and you're using this hairbrush

00:35:10.869 --> 00:35:13.190
tool and you watch your computer die as you're

00:35:13.190 --> 00:35:17.429
painting grass on the ground. Yeah, and I remember

00:35:17.429 --> 00:35:19.469
watching Toy Story 4 and the bit where they go

00:35:19.469 --> 00:35:22.110
into the antique shop, looking at the floor and

00:35:22.110 --> 00:35:24.409
going, surely that's just a picture of a floor

00:35:24.409 --> 00:35:28.179
they've digitised because it just... Beyond real.

00:35:28.460 --> 00:35:30.639
Yeah, they've done some really good stuff. Yeah.

00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.460
Toy Story's brilliant. Yeah. TV -wise, I started

00:35:35.460 --> 00:35:38.539
watching Cheers. Yeah, you said. Which is on

00:35:38.539 --> 00:35:42.800
Paramount from the very first episode. And you

00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:47.639
know what? It's really fun. yeah it's just really

00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.760
old -fashioned comedy uh 82 ted danson if people

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.440
didn't know um i thought it was older than 82

00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:57.320
if i'm honest but it's just yeah it's it's fun

00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:01.219
it's got a charm about it and i found myself

00:36:01.219 --> 00:36:03.780
laughing quite a lot to it and that ties into

00:36:03.780 --> 00:36:06.679
toy story obviously because you've got uh john

00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:08.619
ratzenberg is one of the characters in it who

00:36:08.619 --> 00:36:11.800
did ham and every other voice under the sun yeah

00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.360
he's in all of them though isn't he i think he's

00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.940
in No, he's dead now, isn't he? Well, he was

00:36:16.940 --> 00:36:21.579
in all of the... He did a cameo in basically

00:36:21.579 --> 00:36:23.800
all of them. Oh, no, he's not dead. I thought

00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.880
he was. No, let's not wish his life away. Oh,

00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.380
yeah, no. But I think, again, Pixar doing what

00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:34.579
Pixar do, I think it's either Cars or it's A

00:36:34.579 --> 00:36:38.780
Bug's Life. It's one of them where it's literally

00:36:38.780 --> 00:36:41.840
just his voice over and over again. It's like,

00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:45.820
hey. they're just reusing the same guy and it's

00:36:45.820 --> 00:36:48.099
just the after credits thing and it's just wonderful

00:36:48.099 --> 00:36:50.659
because yeah they do it must be a car's life

00:36:50.659 --> 00:36:53.679
because it's like it must be cars sorry because

00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:56.420
they do a bug's life but it's all cars and he

00:36:56.420 --> 00:36:59.539
either way i can't remember where it is now it's

00:36:59.539 --> 00:37:02.019
in the after credits it's the after credits after

00:37:02.019 --> 00:37:05.679
credits of cars where he plays mac doesn't he

00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.300
plays the big uh yeah it might be the after credits

00:37:08.300 --> 00:37:11.880
of the The second car or third car. It's one

00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.099
of them because I know that they do the spoof

00:37:14.099 --> 00:37:16.920
because it's a bug's life and it's a car's life.

00:37:17.059 --> 00:37:19.980
And all the bugs are like little cars. Well,

00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.980
no, they have the bug cars in the first one.

00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.000
Actually, just in it. So the bugs that are flying

00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.079
around in the desert are little car bugs. But

00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.519
there's an after credit scene where they go to

00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:36.059
watch a drive -thru. Yes. Film thing. And then,

00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:37.739
yeah, it's showing loads of things. And there's

00:37:37.739 --> 00:37:40.780
car stories, so you've got like... Yeah, I think

00:37:40.780 --> 00:37:43.500
it's Cars 2, I think. Yeah. That's what I want

00:37:43.500 --> 00:37:46.280
to say, Cars 2. Possibly. Anyway, that's it.

00:37:46.619 --> 00:37:53.800
Yeah. Well, on to the next one. Your turn. Right.

00:37:53.940 --> 00:37:55.760
What have you been up to? What have I been up

00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:59.699
to? TV -wise, we're up to date on that thing

00:37:59.699 --> 00:38:03.519
on Disney with the Greek stuff. Oh, Percy Jackson.

00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:05.820
Percy Jackson, yeah. It hasn't got any better

00:38:05.820 --> 00:38:09.019
or worse. I've got no good things or bad things

00:38:09.019 --> 00:38:11.380
to say about it. I won't be worried when it's

00:38:11.380 --> 00:38:14.719
finished. Other than that... Did I hear Fallout

00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:17.380
Series 2 has started? Yes, we're watching Fallout

00:38:17.380 --> 00:38:20.260
Series 2. That is brilliant. I think that's a

00:38:20.260 --> 00:38:24.340
really, really good adaption. And, yeah, I mean,

00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:27.699
it's got Todd Howard involved in it, who, he

00:38:27.699 --> 00:38:29.500
didn't invent Fallout. Someone else invented

00:38:29.500 --> 00:38:31.500
it. But, you know, he's the guy responsible for

00:38:31.500 --> 00:38:36.000
the... From two onwards. But isn't it funny how,

00:38:36.179 --> 00:38:38.900
again, we were saying it with stuff at the Academy,

00:38:38.940 --> 00:38:44.900
that an article or Die Hard fans can make or

00:38:44.900 --> 00:38:47.039
break a show. Because the article I saw earlier

00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:54.619
was series two of Fallout Out loses 72 % of audience.

00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.329
Why? i don't know i didn't read it because i

00:38:59.329 --> 00:39:01.829
couldn't be asked yeah fuck off it's just as

00:39:01.829 --> 00:39:04.869
good as the series before and it's on vegas which

00:39:04.869 --> 00:39:08.269
is like everyone loves fallout new vegas more

00:39:08.269 --> 00:39:11.710
than because fallout new vegas is like the uh

00:39:11.710 --> 00:39:16.030
add -on slash sequel to fallout three and everyone

00:39:16.030 --> 00:39:18.429
loves that more than the other one and it was

00:39:18.429 --> 00:39:21.550
made by another company yes they outsourced it

00:39:21.550 --> 00:39:23.929
everyone loves new vegas and this is based on

00:39:23.929 --> 00:39:27.659
that You know, come on, guys. I mean, I'm watching

00:39:27.659 --> 00:39:29.659
it. I think it's brilliant. Just fucking get

00:39:29.659 --> 00:39:31.119
over it. But, you know, I'm one of the guys that

00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.719
likes the Lord of the Rings series. But I think

00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:35.860
because I'm such a Lord of the Rings fanboy anyway,

00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:37.780
you know, I'm still going to like it anyway.

00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.280
Anyway, enough of that. Lord of the Rings Season

00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.059
2, we're behind by an episode now. I think another

00:39:42.059 --> 00:39:43.920
one's come out. But, yeah, that's really, really

00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.800
good in my opinion. But TV -wise, that's it.

00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.579
I've been playing a lot of games. Ooh. Well,

00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:53.059
two in particular. One that you definitely know

00:39:53.059 --> 00:39:56.079
about. You do any. Tainted Grail, Fall of Avalon.

00:39:56.780 --> 00:39:58.480
That fucking sucks. He's been playing with his

00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.300
taint, ladies and gents. He's so addicted to

00:40:00.300 --> 00:40:06.119
it. The addiction has been slightly... I can't

00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:07.719
remember the word I'm looking for. You've OD'd

00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.260
on it. Yeah, it's gone down a bit because a different

00:40:10.260 --> 00:40:13.219
game has come in to help fill the void of that.

00:40:13.579 --> 00:40:16.599
So because of the Steam Deck, I'm playing Tainted

00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:19.980
Grail on the Steam Deck a lot. Yeah. Because

00:40:19.980 --> 00:40:21.539
Miranda's been doing a lot on the computer for

00:40:21.539 --> 00:40:27.179
her courses. and recess or revision um so that's

00:40:27.179 --> 00:40:29.599
fine so when she's on that i can use that and

00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:33.159
play that and it's basically imagine elder scrolls

00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:36.539
but you've played elder scrolls yep yep so like

00:40:36.539 --> 00:40:39.840
that but really dark all your interactions are

00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.820
about death there's been one about um a woman

00:40:43.820 --> 00:40:46.519
you can help a woman decide whether She's going

00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:49.880
to kill her husband or have him commit suicide.

00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:53.639
He gets fucked up by a demon, basically. Right.

00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:57.079
And he becomes basically a vegetable. It's really

00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:02.940
dark stuff. But it's all about a reality where

00:41:02.940 --> 00:41:06.760
King Arthur and Merlin, they're all there, the

00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.019
Knights of the Round Table, and where they live

00:41:09.019 --> 00:41:11.900
gets infested by this thing called the Red Death.

00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.480
which is basically the plague, but it's like

00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.119
a magic plague. Right. And it really fucking

00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:21.559
kills you. Okay. Incredibly contagious, kills

00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:25.440
you. And they escape to it by travelling to this

00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.500
place called Avalon and create a new utopian

00:41:30.500 --> 00:41:33.219
Avalon. But something happens where the Red Death

00:41:33.219 --> 00:41:37.739
makes its way there too. And there's implications

00:41:37.739 --> 00:41:40.739
that actually King Arthur is a bad guy, but you

00:41:40.739 --> 00:41:44.519
don't know. So you start off by being a person

00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.000
who's infected with this disease and you're being

00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:50.260
tortured by a load of monks in a prison island.

00:41:50.500 --> 00:41:53.880
Basically, you're an Alcatraz being tortured

00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.039
and tested on by the monks. Right. So obviously

00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.739
you escape. Someone helps you out. Very Oblivion

00:42:01.739 --> 00:42:05.599
-esque. You get helped out. You escape. You...

00:42:06.230 --> 00:42:09.230
This is literally the intro for a game that came

00:42:09.230 --> 00:42:11.550
out eight months ago, everyone, so sorry about

00:42:11.550 --> 00:42:19.289
spoilers. You end up falling into this area where

00:42:19.289 --> 00:42:24.710
you help this entity escape its prison. You don't

00:42:24.710 --> 00:42:26.210
really know what it is. It doesn't know what

00:42:26.210 --> 00:42:27.829
it is either, or at least it tells you it doesn't.

00:42:27.889 --> 00:42:31.289
But it turns out that's the soul of King Arthur,

00:42:31.449 --> 00:42:36.250
who you then bring to life again. But then he

00:42:36.250 --> 00:42:39.530
kind of, the strength of whatever he gets put

00:42:39.530 --> 00:42:42.250
into dissipates and then he's kind of, but you've

00:42:42.250 --> 00:42:46.889
kind of got a part of him inside you. Yeah, his

00:42:46.889 --> 00:42:49.309
soul inside you. So you can kind of commune with

00:42:49.309 --> 00:42:52.989
him. And the idea is you're working with this

00:42:52.989 --> 00:42:56.570
other person who wants to find all of the horcruxes

00:42:56.570 --> 00:42:58.730
essentially for King Arthur and destroy them

00:42:58.730 --> 00:43:02.650
so that the monks can stop trying to bring him

00:43:02.650 --> 00:43:04.269
back from the dead, which is what they're trying

00:43:04.269 --> 00:43:06.920
to do. for whatever reason because he's saying

00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:10.400
king arthur's evil king arthur has got claims

00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:13.320
he has got no memory of why this person says

00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.639
he's evil he doesn't know and the way he acts

00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:18.480
when you talk to him he acts very much how you

00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:22.539
think of very kingly and very yeah and he's trying

00:43:22.539 --> 00:43:26.079
to get you to go because when because what happens

00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.360
the guy kills you the guy who's trying to kill

00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.119
king arthur kills you and brings you back to

00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:33.019
life going look I've killed that shard of King

00:43:33.019 --> 00:43:34.619
Arthur inside you. I knew I'd be able to bring

00:43:34.619 --> 00:43:37.099
you back. He thinks that shard of King Arthur

00:43:37.099 --> 00:43:40.380
inside you is dead. It's not. Okay. So now King

00:43:40.380 --> 00:43:42.980
Arthur's like, let's keep letting him think I'm

00:43:42.980 --> 00:43:45.619
dead. Go and do the things he's asking you to

00:43:45.619 --> 00:43:48.079
do. But when we take the power, we'll just keep

00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:51.380
tricking him every time. Right. Okay. Yeah. So

00:43:51.380 --> 00:43:53.400
that's where, that's where I was going, but it's

00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.659
really dark and I love dark grid, horrible, like.

00:43:58.899 --> 00:44:00.860
dystopian kind of environments, particularly

00:44:00.860 --> 00:44:03.199
medieval ones. I love all that stuff. And the

00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.239
final boss of the game is you having to put your

00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:07.840
shard of Arthur back in Arthur. Yeah, you have

00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:11.360
to get your shard into Arthur. So yeah, I've

00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:13.420
been playing that a lot. I've got hours into

00:44:13.420 --> 00:44:15.699
it. And it runs really well on the Steam Deck.

00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:18.139
Graphically, not good on the Steam Deck, but

00:44:18.139 --> 00:44:21.579
frame rate is absolutely great. And yeah, going

00:44:21.579 --> 00:44:23.639
between that and the computer, it's really nice.

00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:26.380
Oh, awesome. And then a game called Hytale came

00:44:26.380 --> 00:44:32.670
out. which is basically Minecraft. So Hytale

00:44:32.670 --> 00:44:34.210
was... Yeah, that's what it looked like. It was

00:44:34.210 --> 00:44:35.889
like Minecraft plus plus. Okay, so there's a

00:44:35.889 --> 00:44:39.909
story behind it. The people who made Hytale made

00:44:39.909 --> 00:44:45.349
a mod for Minecraft, I'm going to say, six or

00:44:45.349 --> 00:44:48.869
seven years ago, right? And then they decided

00:44:48.869 --> 00:44:51.309
to make their own game. And they were doing it

00:44:51.309 --> 00:44:53.150
for a few years. And then they were bought by

00:44:53.150 --> 00:44:57.219
Riot. And then Riot... put it through development

00:44:57.219 --> 00:44:59.380
hell for like six years. Sounds about right.

00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:04.539
And then a company brought Riot and binned a

00:45:04.539 --> 00:45:06.179
load of their games. Hytale was one of them.

00:45:06.699 --> 00:45:09.440
Riot sold the rights of the game back to the

00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.380
original creator because all the original people

00:45:12.380 --> 00:45:15.199
left because they got pushed out. So the original

00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:16.780
creator came back with loads of the original

00:45:16.780 --> 00:45:19.099
staff who were all just modders from Minecraft.

00:45:19.739 --> 00:45:23.659
25 million, he brought it back. Nice. Two months

00:45:23.659 --> 00:45:27.800
later, released it. so they rolled it the six

00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.619
years back so now it's in the state it was before

00:45:30.619 --> 00:45:33.639
riot were involved so it was ready to be released

00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:37.320
in this state six years ago right okay and now

00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:41.780
it's after he pays 25 million gets it back um

00:45:41.780 --> 00:45:44.880
two months later get it stable just release it

00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:48.980
to the world for um i think it's 20 or something

00:45:48.980 --> 00:45:52.579
yeah in a kind of just minecraft did this when

00:45:52.579 --> 00:45:54.820
minecraft come out i paid 10 pound for minecraft

00:45:54.820 --> 00:45:57.960
minecraft i play i only paid 10 pound for because

00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.139
i bought the alpha of it it there was nothing

00:46:00.139 --> 00:46:03.380
in that game no really it was just creative essentially

00:46:03.380 --> 00:46:07.900
creative mode fog of war yeah blocks and very

00:46:07.900 --> 00:46:09.820
little else you can do in it and it's incredible

00:46:09.820 --> 00:46:12.119
to think that you know we've been playing that

00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.179
game for so long i paid barely anything for it

00:46:14.179 --> 00:46:17.860
and they did just allow you to just keep going

00:46:17.860 --> 00:46:20.239
to the new version you know i have since like

00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.460
brought the switch version and other versions

00:46:22.460 --> 00:46:24.980
of it other consoles but my pc version is that

00:46:24.980 --> 00:46:27.079
original 10 pound version of it that they just

00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:32.380
upgraded anyway side note it's essentially essentially

00:46:32.380 --> 00:46:37.400
it's minecraft but with bells and whistles everywhere

00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:39.719
people call it minecraft 2 and i think that's

00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:41.679
a really good analogy for actually what it is

00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:45.320
uh i like minecraft 2 the screenshots i saw there

00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.260
was furniture Yeah, I mean, if there's time,

00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:50.340
I'll show you. I've been working on a house the

00:46:50.340 --> 00:46:53.900
last two days. Right, okay. I only actually downloaded

00:46:53.900 --> 00:46:56.960
it because I watched a video of it and T watched

00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:58.460
the trailer with me and he was like, oh, I'd

00:46:58.460 --> 00:47:00.980
really like to play this. So, okay, I'll download

00:47:00.980 --> 00:47:05.519
it and then I'll make it. So, I've set my solo

00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.179
server up that if you die, you don't lose anything.

00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:09.599
Nice. You keep all your stuff. Yeah. You don't

00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:11.719
lose any damage to any of your health, nothing.

00:47:11.860 --> 00:47:14.320
You just have it all still. Okay. Because, you

00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:18.119
know, he's five. it's just like so if i so i've

00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:20.199
been building in this really nice house and he's

00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.639
got a decent sword and stuff and now he can actually

00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.239
go and fight things but yeah it's really good

00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:27.800
and it is really addictive it's instantly brought

00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:31.440
back that bit inside my brain that minecraft

00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.380
always got yeah and there is actually considering

00:47:34.380 --> 00:47:36.840
it's only been out for a few days like a week

00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.599
there's a lot in there and there are people online

00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:41.699
going oh yeah i've been playing it for 15 hours

00:47:41.699 --> 00:47:44.179
i've seen everything you could possibly see how

00:47:44.179 --> 00:47:47.980
you haven't been playing the game you've just

00:47:47.980 --> 00:47:50.360
gone look at this area look at this area look

00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.159
at this area look at this area dig down oh i've

00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.440
managed to get one of every single yeah i'm done

00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:59.079
that's not it these kind of games are i when

00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.880
i had um a server going i had like mark i don't

00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.000
remember if you were going you invited me towards

00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.460
the end of it and we saw i saw the giant hole

00:48:07.460 --> 00:48:11.099
you just dug with the rail network yeah so we

00:48:11.099 --> 00:48:14.349
had Didn't Mark make a football stadium as well?

00:48:14.349 --> 00:48:16.610
We had Old Trafford. Yeah, that was it. So we

00:48:16.610 --> 00:48:18.590
built Old Trafford. So we built a quarry, which

00:48:18.590 --> 00:48:20.989
was like, I think it was 50 by 50 blocks square,

00:48:21.070 --> 00:48:24.210
all the way down to Bedrock. Yeah. And then they

00:48:24.210 --> 00:48:26.170
brought a new, I think then they brought out

00:48:26.170 --> 00:48:28.050
the version, maybe it was called Bedrock. They

00:48:28.050 --> 00:48:30.130
brought a version out of it that had new things.

00:48:30.429 --> 00:48:31.969
But the only way you could get it is you had

00:48:31.969 --> 00:48:33.909
to go to chunks that had never loaded before

00:48:33.909 --> 00:48:39.219
in your server. Oh. So we basically. built a

00:48:39.219 --> 00:48:41.559
tunnel and a straight line to an area who'd never

00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:45.159
been before from bedrock yeah and all it takes

00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:48.099
i think because then we put a minecraft in it

00:48:48.099 --> 00:48:50.519
it takes literally like two whole minutes of

00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.559
sitting in a minecart yeah i remember going a

00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.639
lot i remember on redstone you pop up again at

00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:59.119
the other end and you've built the um water lift

00:48:59.739 --> 00:49:02.159
yeah we had a water lift to get in and out yeah

00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:04.219
yeah so that was always quite handy yeah we did

00:49:04.219 --> 00:49:06.099
loads of stuff and we had these really big houses

00:49:06.099 --> 00:49:08.679
and all kinds of things so i can yeah we were

00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:10.960
really into that i always played minecraft for

00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:14.300
the creativity i never played it to get to the

00:49:14.300 --> 00:49:16.739
end to beat the ender dragon all of that crap

00:49:16.739 --> 00:49:20.139
couldn't give a stuff i enjoyed building a place

00:49:20.139 --> 00:49:23.719
having a couple of fights a bit of mining fishing

00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:27.380
that's what i enjoyed so if this game's got that

00:49:27.949 --> 00:49:30.670
but it looks prettier and it's done better, I'll

00:49:30.670 --> 00:49:32.969
be well up for that. I think if we have time,

00:49:32.989 --> 00:49:34.590
have a quick look at it, I think you'll instantly

00:49:34.590 --> 00:49:36.969
be like, yeah, I like this. And it's particularly

00:49:36.969 --> 00:49:39.489
like, you know when they added the caverns and

00:49:39.489 --> 00:49:42.409
stuff to Minecraft? Yes. That's in there already,

00:49:42.570 --> 00:49:46.670
in this. And when you go down into the mines,

00:49:46.889 --> 00:49:51.929
the mines, there's like, you know in Lord of

00:49:51.929 --> 00:49:54.539
the Rings when Frodo gets wrapped up? Yeah. By

00:49:54.539 --> 00:49:55.900
the spider silk. They've got like things like

00:49:55.900 --> 00:49:58.280
that under there. Like I fell into a cave and

00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.880
it was a room filled with like eight of these

00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.000
mummified characters, you know, wiggling around

00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:06.440
and like, oh shit. And eventually a giant spider

00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.139
did attack me. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. And

00:50:09.139 --> 00:50:16.079
then like massive maze caverns and loads of like

00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:20.840
loads of different enemies. Excuse me. Loads

00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:23.250
of like little lava dungeons and stuff. they

00:50:23.250 --> 00:50:24.849
have got loads of dungeons scattered everywhere

00:50:24.849 --> 00:50:28.170
with little signposts that say coming soon nice

00:50:28.170 --> 00:50:31.230
which is quite cute to know that this thing isn't

00:50:31.230 --> 00:50:32.949
just random it's going to be something eventually

00:50:32.949 --> 00:50:35.230
oh so there is no is it seeded generation or

00:50:35.230 --> 00:50:37.590
is it just the same map no it's see yeah no it's

00:50:37.590 --> 00:50:40.750
random oh okay cool it's random but i think that's

00:50:40.750 --> 00:50:42.769
the one thing i would say with minecraft even

00:50:42.769 --> 00:50:45.130
in creative well not in creative mode but if

00:50:45.130 --> 00:50:48.170
you're ever trying to be creative without creative

00:50:48.170 --> 00:50:52.110
mode i often found that If I was going to sit

00:50:52.110 --> 00:50:54.789
down for maybe a two -hour gaming session, the

00:50:54.789 --> 00:50:58.750
first hour would be trying to find three fucking

00:50:58.750 --> 00:51:02.829
sheep so I could make a bed. Yeah. Which often

00:51:02.829 --> 00:51:05.090
proved near on impossible in the first hour.

00:51:05.670 --> 00:51:09.429
Or traversing the landscape until I found somewhere

00:51:09.429 --> 00:51:14.150
that had got a decent coal supply. And that got

00:51:14.150 --> 00:51:16.809
on my nerves. So you make torches in this by

00:51:16.809 --> 00:51:20.019
using tree sap. Right. So you get sap from cutting

00:51:20.019 --> 00:51:21.760
down trees. So you cut the bottom of a tree,

00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:24.280
the whole tree falls down. Yeah. There's nice

00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:26.679
little touches like that. You're not shearing

00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:28.440
sheep to make a bed. I think you make it out

00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:32.219
of plant fibre. Yeah. They've definitely... They've

00:51:32.219 --> 00:51:35.519
obviously got to make it legally distinct to

00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.340
Minecraft. You make a lot of the crafting stuff

00:51:37.340 --> 00:51:40.780
using particular style benches, which can draw

00:51:40.780 --> 00:51:43.960
straight from chests. Fine. Which is a mod in

00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:47.719
Minecraft, which I used. Okay. I have, so modding

00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:49.719
in it is really easy. I've done loads of mods.

00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.099
You literally, they've designed it specifically

00:51:52.099 --> 00:51:53.920
to be modded because they're modders themselves.

00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:57.159
Awesome. So you download another program called

00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:00.119
something forge and it's basically a storefront.

00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:03.440
Yeah. You find the game that you're playing,

00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:06.360
you download, it automatically saves it in the

00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:08.940
correct location. Nice. You go into the game,

00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.340
you right click your world and you tick the boxes

00:52:11.340 --> 00:52:14.380
for the ones that you want. It literally has

00:52:14.380 --> 00:52:16.219
them listed and you just tick the boxes for the

00:52:16.219 --> 00:52:18.360
mods you want to use. You can put them in, take

00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:20.960
them out. You can have multiple worlds. Each

00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:24.539
world can use different mods. You know? Yeah.

00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.380
Yeah, there's loads. If you like Minecraft, you

00:52:28.380 --> 00:52:32.400
will like Hytale. Definitely will like it. T

00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:37.099
thinks it's great. Yeah, and as I said, you can

00:52:37.099 --> 00:52:39.340
make it so you don't lose durability, you don't

00:52:39.340 --> 00:52:42.300
lose experience, you don't lose your items. And

00:52:42.300 --> 00:52:44.920
whilst I wouldn't play like that myself, because

00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:48.900
then there's no... You're not worried about dying

00:52:48.900 --> 00:52:51.219
at that point. Yeah, fair enough. Because what

00:52:51.219 --> 00:52:53.920
I always liked about Minecraft was, you've done

00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:55.619
this, you've got to get out of this fucking cave.

00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:58.639
I've got ten diamonds, I've got to get out of

00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.039
this bloody cave now. Well, I don't have that

00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:04.099
worry at the moment, which I can turn on and

00:53:04.099 --> 00:53:06.679
off as I please. So you can just back out the

00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.400
game, right click on the world map again, and

00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:12.159
then change that setting. So really I could,

00:53:12.260 --> 00:53:14.760
so basically when I finish building the house,

00:53:14.780 --> 00:53:16.380
which is nearly done, I'm going to turn that

00:53:16.380 --> 00:53:17.920
off. And whenever I'm playing, I'm going to have

00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:19.460
it off. And then when I know he's going to play

00:53:19.460 --> 00:53:21.500
it, I'll just right click it, make it so nothing

00:53:21.500 --> 00:53:24.369
can get lost. Off we go. It'd be nice if it was

00:53:24.369 --> 00:53:25.530
on consoles. Jeopardy was the word I'm looking

00:53:25.530 --> 00:53:27.750
for. Jeopardy, yep. I know it's not on consoles

00:53:27.750 --> 00:53:29.670
at the moment. No, there's no controller support

00:53:29.670 --> 00:53:32.809
either, which is another downside. They've said

00:53:32.809 --> 00:53:34.869
they're working on it as soon as possible, which

00:53:34.869 --> 00:53:37.429
is why even though I could get it running on

00:53:37.429 --> 00:53:40.130
the Steam Deck, you couldn't use it. Some people

00:53:40.130 --> 00:53:41.469
have managed to get it going. I was going to

00:53:41.469 --> 00:53:43.690
say that would be nice for my one because my

00:53:43.690 --> 00:53:46.340
one has the ability to map. all the controls

00:53:46.340 --> 00:53:49.219
to keyboard instead. Some other people have managed

00:53:49.219 --> 00:53:51.039
it, but I'm not going to sit there and do that.

00:53:51.099 --> 00:53:53.440
I'll just use it on the computer. Yeah, fair

00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:58.320
enough. It is multiplayer. I have set my personal

00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:00.239
world set solo, but there is a way you can get

00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.659
around that and make it multiplayer. Or you can

00:54:02.659 --> 00:54:04.079
just make yourself multiplayer one off you go.

00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:05.880
I don't think you need to do like Minecraft to

00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.559
have servers and stuff. You just off you go,

00:54:07.659 --> 00:54:11.119
multiplayer. I might give that a go. Yeah, that's

00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:12.980
it. Sorry, lost the game. I've spoke 60 minutes

00:54:12.980 --> 00:54:15.219
about two games essentially. God, let's talk

00:54:15.219 --> 00:54:22.079
about virus. Yep. Accessing library computer

00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:30.360
data. So virus, 1999, $75 million budget. Let's

00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.579
actually do a little bit of work for this before

00:54:34.579 --> 00:54:36.559
we actually talk about it, shall we? We never

00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:40.239
do. We always get straight into it. um so virus

00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:43.059
i'm going to read you what imdb put down as the

00:54:43.059 --> 00:54:45.760
plot so after outrunning a typhoon at sea a strong

00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.880
-willed tugboat navigator and her crew discover

00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:51.260
a high -tech alien life form that's taken control

00:54:51.260 --> 00:54:54.539
of a russian research vessel and aims to destroy

00:54:54.539 --> 00:54:58.260
on a massive scale now the film stars jamie lee

00:54:58.260 --> 00:55:02.920
curtis uh you'll know from true lies from halloween

00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:05.960
all sorts of films donald sutherland we've already

00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:08.559
talked about films for that tonight, Hunger Games,

00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:13.559
but I've been in so much. William Baldwin. He's

00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:16.599
a Baldwin. He's one of the Baldwins. Probably

00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:22.260
the least known that I would think of. Yeah.

00:55:22.340 --> 00:55:25.099
I don't like him particularly much. No, fair

00:55:25.099 --> 00:55:27.980
enough. But the one that most people, other than

00:55:27.980 --> 00:55:29.739
Donald Sutherland and Jamie Lee Curtis, if you

00:55:29.739 --> 00:55:32.699
look at the rest of the crew, the one that I

00:55:32.699 --> 00:55:35.000
think most people will then recognise is the

00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:37.960
one that plays... Hiko, which is an actor called

00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:45.239
Cliff Curtis, who was Searle in Sunshine. He

00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:50.900
was... Let me bring up R &B. Sorry. He's a phenomenal

00:55:50.900 --> 00:55:55.460
actor. He's been in all sorts, to be fair. He's

00:55:55.460 --> 00:55:57.480
the sort of person, Cliff Curtis, he's the sort

00:55:57.480 --> 00:55:58.940
of person that you'll look at and you'll go,

00:55:59.099 --> 00:56:03.380
oh, him. He was in a TV series called Trauma.

00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:07.300
Terrible, terrible, terrible TV series, by the

00:56:07.300 --> 00:56:11.219
way. What else? Traffic, Training Day, Blow.

00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:14.000
Which his name was? Cliff Curtis. Oh, yeah, him.

00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:17.679
Three Kings. Yeah, him. He's been in so much.

00:56:18.059 --> 00:56:20.500
He's in bloody everything, yeah. When you see

00:56:20.500 --> 00:56:24.219
him, he's very young in this. Yeah, Maori native.

00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.780
He was uncredited in Mars Attacks, allegedly.

00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.940
Okay. People will definitely know him from Meg

00:56:30.940 --> 00:56:33.599
and Meg 2. Yeah, Meg and the Meg 2, yeah. New

00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:36.159
Zealand character. Really, really, really, really

00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:40.380
good actor, actually, for what he is. Now, as

00:56:40.380 --> 00:56:47.219
I said, $75 million in the budget. Do you want

00:56:47.219 --> 00:56:49.039
to take a guess at what it grossed worldwide?

00:56:49.460 --> 00:56:51.400
I don't think it got that. I don't think it made

00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.460
its money. $30 million, sadly. Yeah, that's a

00:56:53.460 --> 00:56:57.480
shame, really. Came in at $1 .39. It's quite

00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:00.719
a hard one to get hold of. They haven't, or they

00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:02.860
have done remasters, but I don't think they're

00:57:02.860 --> 00:57:05.059
available to buy anymore. The YouTube one I watched

00:57:05.059 --> 00:57:06.619
wasn't remastered. It was quite bad quality.

00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.900
It was bad quality with German dubbing. Yeah.

00:57:10.139 --> 00:57:12.320
So I have no idea what the Russians said at the

00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.800
beginning. Not a clue. Not a clue. It's a whole

00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:17.460
thing on the Russian space station. I don't know

00:57:17.460 --> 00:57:20.079
what they said. It's back in stock at £8 .19

00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.579
on the Blu -ray edition. Oh, okay. Fair enough.

00:57:23.699 --> 00:57:25.579
Yes, we had to watch the Dodger YouTube version.

00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:27.699
When we get our server running, I'll buy it and

00:57:27.699 --> 00:57:34.159
rip it. Go on. I'm really intrigued to hear just

00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:37.039
a couple of words. What did you think of the

00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:43.579
film? Did I like it? I don't know if I liked

00:57:43.579 --> 00:57:47.909
it or not. I kind of... What I did like, the

00:57:47.909 --> 00:57:51.210
practical effects were fantastic. The robots

00:57:51.210 --> 00:57:54.429
were brilliant. So the Goliath robot at the end.

00:57:55.130 --> 00:57:57.289
other than the CGI one that you see quite a lot

00:57:57.289 --> 00:58:01.170
of, was made as a practical effect. Nine foot

00:58:01.170 --> 00:58:04.809
tall, four tons in weight. Really? And they managed

00:58:04.809 --> 00:58:06.989
to make it in three and a half months based on

00:58:06.989 --> 00:58:09.329
the drawings they got given. Yeah, they did a

00:58:09.329 --> 00:58:11.469
really good job. There's a scene where all the

00:58:11.469 --> 00:58:13.510
robots are like in a building room. The first

00:58:13.510 --> 00:58:15.210
time you really kind of see them. Oh, when they're

00:58:15.210 --> 00:58:17.269
all little bugs and things. Yeah, that's great.

00:58:17.710 --> 00:58:21.949
All of the robotics, all of the... the cyborgs

00:58:21.949 --> 00:58:24.630
particularly the first cyborg you get the um

00:58:24.630 --> 00:58:28.389
it's it's horrendous yeah it was gross it was

00:58:28.389 --> 00:58:30.710
like a mix between robocop and terminator that

00:58:30.710 --> 00:58:34.570
thing was yeah it's a weird amalgamation a lot

00:58:34.570 --> 00:58:37.070
of people kind of linking it to the thing as

00:58:37.070 --> 00:58:39.210
well funnily enough well that's i was gonna say

00:58:39.210 --> 00:58:42.679
it was a A cyborg version of the thing, where

00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:46.460
the thing was flesh and gross and wet. This was

00:58:46.460 --> 00:58:49.559
metal and hard and spiky. And I love the fact

00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:51.920
that they've got that on the bridge. And then

00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:55.199
he just rips open, very thingish, and out comes

00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:57.500
kind of the spinal cord with the skull on top.

00:58:57.639 --> 00:58:58.940
Yeah, I got a note of that, yeah. I thought that

00:58:58.940 --> 00:59:00.500
was brilliant. The little mini -me comes out

00:59:00.500 --> 00:59:02.820
of him, yeah. It was absolutely brilliant. I

00:59:02.820 --> 00:59:04.960
was just, wow. And it looked really good. It

00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.300
looked great. I mean, it didn't make me jump

00:59:07.300 --> 00:59:10.960
at any point in time. No. I wasn't even remotely

00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:13.440
kind of worried about any character. I wasn't

00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:17.989
attached to any character. All the... the whole

00:59:17.989 --> 00:59:20.269
kind of yeah i wasn't really kind of invested

00:59:20.269 --> 00:59:23.610
in anyone's plot at any point in time this was

00:59:23.610 --> 00:59:25.909
just a bunch of people on the ship who were dickheads

00:59:25.909 --> 00:59:31.150
and um deserved a lot of what they got and uh

00:59:31.150 --> 00:59:34.969
it's a shame they didn't all die yeah so let's

00:59:34.969 --> 00:59:37.230
rewind it a little bit so i've read the very

00:59:37.230 --> 00:59:41.469
very brief bit that um imdb give you what happens

00:59:41.469 --> 00:59:44.710
in the film mere space station Gets hit by some

00:59:44.710 --> 00:59:46.829
sort of electrical storm. What did I call it?

00:59:46.929 --> 00:59:50.550
I called it something on my notes. Oh, God. Blue

00:59:50.550 --> 00:59:53.949
space wave. Blue space wave. Hits Mir. That transmits

00:59:53.949 --> 00:59:55.929
something down to the ship. Ship starts exploding.

00:59:56.210 --> 00:59:58.389
We then end up on the tug with Donald Sutherland,

00:59:58.590 --> 01:00:01.369
who's a dick. He's a complete prick, yeah. He's

01:00:01.369 --> 01:00:04.429
saying that he's invested everything he owned

01:00:04.429 --> 01:00:07.110
into rescuing this cargo. Yeah, but doesn't want

01:00:07.110 --> 01:00:08.849
to spend any money on insurance. No. It then

01:00:08.849 --> 01:00:12.250
all goes wrong. Sinks. Oh, no. Then they find

01:00:12.250 --> 01:00:15.199
the Russian ship. It's all dead. Someone seems

01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:17.059
to be alive on it. They don't know what's happened

01:00:17.059 --> 01:00:20.760
there. And then things vastly go wrong. That

01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:25.179
is the premise of the film. Now, honestly, Donald

01:00:25.179 --> 01:00:27.340
Sutherland, Jamie Lee Curtis, brilliant. The

01:00:27.340 --> 01:00:30.320
other actors, they could have done with a few

01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:34.800
more better names in it. Writing could have been

01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:38.900
a lot better. Premise of the film, though, and

01:00:38.900 --> 01:00:42.219
the effects, really, really very good. Yeah,

01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:43.860
I wasn't disappointed by any of the effects.

01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:47.059
Even the CGI giant Goliath, I didn't think it

01:00:47.059 --> 01:00:50.119
looked rubbish. It looked as it probably would

01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:53.840
for the time. I've got here what this film could

01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:56.440
have been with the right writers and actors.

01:00:56.800 --> 01:01:00.679
Yeah. As I feel that if you'd got the right writers

01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:03.000
in there who could have padded out the story

01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:06.360
properly without this weird varying speed of

01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:09.550
story. and actually had a little bit, for once,

01:01:09.570 --> 01:01:13.130
a bit more exposition on certain things, I think

01:01:13.130 --> 01:01:14.730
it would have been brilliant because I found

01:01:14.730 --> 01:01:17.070
the acting is very underwhelming in it. Yeah.

01:01:17.590 --> 01:01:21.289
Yeah, it is underwhelming. But yeah, the effects

01:01:21.289 --> 01:01:25.269
were brilliant. One of the bits I really love

01:01:25.269 --> 01:01:27.730
is when Donald Southern walks in to go and see

01:01:27.730 --> 01:01:31.110
the mainframe, the server running, and he looks

01:01:31.110 --> 01:01:33.269
at the Russian's body that's being cut up that's

01:01:33.269 --> 01:01:36.300
got the star on the chest. He's like, oh. All

01:01:36.300 --> 01:01:38.260
of that without a head. Wow. Blah, blah, blah.

01:01:38.300 --> 01:01:41.300
And then when Donald Sutherland's cyborg body

01:01:41.300 --> 01:01:44.420
turns up, it's that chest. Yeah. So it's like

01:01:44.420 --> 01:01:46.119
the computer's listening. It's like, well, just

01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:47.760
take your head and stick it on that then. Brilliant.

01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:51.079
Yeah. Did he know that was going to happen to

01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:54.780
him? I presume so. Well, if you read, interesting,

01:01:54.940 --> 01:01:56.480
if you read the notes, it said Donald Sutherland

01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:59.079
insisted that all his cyborg scenes were filmed

01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:02.800
in one day. There's only one cyborg scene. No,

01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:04.940
I mean, not the actor. I mean, the character.

01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:07.800
Did he go in there thinking that? No, I think

01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:10.519
he thought he was just going to be able to deal

01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:12.820
with this, just like he deals with everyone.

01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:18.280
So I had a moment in it where I was like, why

01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:20.500
would he be doing that when the computer monster

01:02:20.500 --> 01:02:24.820
is typing on a keyboard? Oh, right, yes. I was

01:02:24.820 --> 01:02:26.639
like, why would he be doing that? Isn't it the

01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:31.010
computer? Why does it need someone to physically

01:02:31.010 --> 01:02:34.690
input on the keyboard? I just thought that was

01:02:34.690 --> 01:02:37.389
a bit funny. Yeah. You know, just that moment.

01:02:37.889 --> 01:02:41.710
No, fair enough. I mean, ultimately, there isn't

01:02:41.710 --> 01:02:46.570
much to say about it. It's a very clearly 2000s

01:02:46.570 --> 01:02:52.110
horror. So it spawned from the idea that was

01:02:52.110 --> 01:02:54.730
turned into four comic books. So from what I

01:02:54.730 --> 01:02:58.349
understand about Virus, it was turned down. several

01:02:58.349 --> 01:03:01.349
times and eventually they turned it into four

01:03:01.349 --> 01:03:04.969
separate comic books the story and they did amazingly

01:03:04.969 --> 01:03:07.429
the comic books absolutely flew off the shelves

01:03:07.429 --> 01:03:12.130
so the idea is good so that then got people listening

01:03:12.130 --> 01:03:14.829
and they made the film jamie lee curtis says

01:03:14.829 --> 01:03:16.769
it's one of her worst films if not the worst

01:03:16.769 --> 01:03:19.750
film she ever made i don't know freaky friday

01:03:19.750 --> 01:03:21.769
and freakier friday ladies and gents i guarantee

01:03:21.769 --> 01:03:25.510
you she doesn't say it anymore yeah um but yeah

01:03:26.010 --> 01:03:28.469
I don't think it's terrible. I enjoy it. It's

01:03:28.469 --> 01:03:34.150
very cheesy. The ending with the missiles is

01:03:34.150 --> 01:03:36.889
very funny. I think it's very funny that if you

01:03:36.889 --> 01:03:38.670
look into the history of it, the boat was meant

01:03:38.670 --> 01:03:42.159
to be used for the Abyss. It didn't get used

01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.780
or part of it got used. So it was then just left

01:03:44.780 --> 01:03:47.980
out and rusted. So they literally cleaned one

01:03:47.980 --> 01:03:50.280
side of the boat and you only ever see one side

01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:51.460
of the boat. I never noticed that. Because the

01:03:51.460 --> 01:03:54.480
other side is completely just knackered. Oh,

01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:59.000
I never noticed. So no, that was all in people's

01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:02.880
notes, which I thought was fun. And remarkably,

01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:07.340
so we set about watching it. And I think I said

01:04:07.340 --> 01:04:13.150
it was the 15th of January. Was it 26 years ago

01:04:13.150 --> 01:04:15.630
to that day it was released? It's like, how funny.

01:04:15.789 --> 01:04:18.530
Literally, we'd chosen this film. So that had

01:04:18.530 --> 01:04:20.050
come around. But then I started reading all the

01:04:20.050 --> 01:04:23.110
kind of comments. And then like anything on social

01:04:23.110 --> 01:04:26.050
media, you then start seeing more posts about

01:04:26.050 --> 01:04:29.530
exactly the same shit. And you know what? I really,

01:04:29.550 --> 01:04:32.469
really didn't think about this until watching

01:04:32.469 --> 01:04:40.570
it. This is Moontrap 2. Shit, I guess it is.

01:04:41.309 --> 01:04:45.550
You're right. It would have been a perfect continuation.

01:04:46.349 --> 01:04:48.929
Absolutely. You had the pod crash down to Earth.

01:04:49.269 --> 01:04:51.989
Ignore the blue wave. Ignore the blue wave. You've

01:04:51.989 --> 01:04:54.389
got the pod crash down, rather than it landing

01:04:54.389 --> 01:04:56.630
in the car. Land in the ocean. Landed in the

01:04:56.630 --> 01:04:59.449
ocean. They find it. Gets picked up by NASA,

01:04:59.590 --> 01:05:01.309
who, right, well, we saw something crash into

01:05:01.309 --> 01:05:02.730
the ocean. We've gone to go and find out what

01:05:02.730 --> 01:05:05.579
it was. Pick it up, takes over. It could have

01:05:05.579 --> 01:05:07.559
been perfect because everything, so many of the

01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:10.099
robots. So when she's chained up and it's got

01:05:10.099 --> 01:05:12.280
the brain scan and it's about to start cutting

01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:14.260
the top of her head off and whatever, that's

01:05:14.260 --> 01:05:17.679
straight out of Moontrap. So much of it was out

01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:18.920
of Moontrap already. Yeah, you're absolutely

01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:22.340
right. But done with far better effects because

01:05:22.340 --> 01:05:25.199
it was a newer film with more budget. Yeah, well,

01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:28.219
it never crossed my mind at the time, but absolutely.

01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:30.360
Did someone else say that as well? Lots of people

01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:33.679
are saying, is this a sequel to Moontrap? Was

01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:36.039
this by the same people? Was it meant to be a

01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:38.099
Moontrap sequel? It wasn't. There was no tie

01:05:38.099 --> 01:05:40.800
to it at all. So I wonder if the writer had written

01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:43.239
it like Moontrap and it got kind of warped. Well,

01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:45.800
I wonder if the person was a fan of it, because

01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.900
honestly, it plays out perfectly, doesn't it?

01:05:48.940 --> 01:05:53.519
It plays out that you've got a cyborg. virus

01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:56.139
race thing that's using human bodies and machinery

01:05:56.139 --> 01:06:00.440
to take over earth it was perfect absolutely

01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:06.440
perfect um yeah very very very much let down

01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:11.739
by its writing yeah and the acting and i'm genuinely

01:06:11.739 --> 01:06:14.139
surprised by donald sutherland his character

01:06:14.139 --> 01:06:16.179
is probably the best character in the entire

01:06:16.179 --> 01:06:18.619
thing and he's an arsehole i love the bit where

01:06:18.619 --> 01:06:20.300
he sat at his desk trying to kill himself as

01:06:20.300 --> 01:06:23.500
well starts with the gun in his mouth then he's

01:06:23.500 --> 01:06:25.340
like okay i'll put it to my forehead and then

01:06:25.340 --> 01:06:28.840
he suddenly thinks hang on research ship ding

01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:30.820
ding ding ding ding you could almost put dollar

01:06:30.820 --> 01:06:33.440
signs above his head yeah the man's such a good

01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:35.179
actor that you could imagine that that's actually

01:06:35.179 --> 01:06:40.420
happening um yeah it's just it was let down by

01:06:40.420 --> 01:06:43.760
the other actors like squeak just being this

01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:48.989
horribly rubbish Was he meant to be Mexican or

01:06:48.989 --> 01:06:50.769
something? I can't quite remember. I don't know

01:06:50.769 --> 01:06:53.489
what he was going for. Exactly. Then you've got

01:06:53.489 --> 01:06:56.530
the one that's always perpetually miserable.

01:06:57.150 --> 01:06:59.750
Why is he perpetually miserable? Why is he like

01:06:59.750 --> 01:07:03.250
that? Yeah, just is. Yeah. Then you've got the

01:07:03.250 --> 01:07:06.510
ex -Navy. I've gone crazy by the end of it, but

01:07:06.510 --> 01:07:07.769
don't worry, I'm going to save you at the end.

01:07:09.070 --> 01:07:11.329
Oh, the guy who sets up the torpedo launcher.

01:07:11.329 --> 01:07:12.789
Who sets up the two missile launchers. Yeah,

01:07:12.809 --> 01:07:19.570
it's just too much. Weird. Just too weird. The

01:07:19.570 --> 01:07:24.550
ex -Russian ship person who's still there. Why

01:07:24.550 --> 01:07:26.750
is she wearing a gas mask? Why is she hiding

01:07:26.750 --> 01:07:29.150
in a cupboard? Yeah. As again, why is she in

01:07:29.150 --> 01:07:32.869
disguise? Yeah. I don't think the machine cares

01:07:32.869 --> 01:07:34.469
what you look like, love. It's still going to

01:07:34.469 --> 01:07:36.489
kill you because it knows you're human. Yeah.

01:07:36.610 --> 01:07:40.010
I guess she's hiding from the people. I presume

01:07:40.010 --> 01:07:43.309
so. She turned the ship off, hadn't she? Yeah.

01:07:43.369 --> 01:07:46.230
Which makes sense. And I love the fact that...

01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:50.239
the computer moved itself and that whole idea

01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:52.619
was really good and you saw the little bugs kind

01:07:52.619 --> 01:07:55.059
of walking around there as well i thought they

01:07:55.059 --> 01:07:57.380
there were some really well thought out bits

01:07:57.380 --> 01:08:02.360
to it it's just let down by the acting and the

01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:06.239
writing yeah yeah um it's not really much else

01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:09.820
to say about it it's worth watching it's not

01:08:09.820 --> 01:08:11.880
one of those films i'd say oh no it's terrible

01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.280
don't watch it it's shit if you're looking for

01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:19.479
a good sci -fi film to switch your brain off

01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:24.119
to that's not too taxing watch this just ignore

01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:26.039
the fact that the astronauts are very clearly

01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:28.520
not even on wires and just walking very slowly

01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.619
stretching to pretend they're in space at the

01:08:31.619 --> 01:08:36.279
beginning because that was awful yeah uh so yeah

01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:40.239
i mean overall i think looking back on it i think

01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:42.720
i probably did enjoy it but like you're saying

01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:45.340
there was there was a lot of things are wrong

01:08:45.340 --> 01:08:51.340
with it, but the best bit is the, the animatronics

01:08:51.340 --> 01:08:53.680
and all that stuff. They did a really, really

01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:55.659
good job of that. And that is, I think what saves

01:08:55.659 --> 01:08:58.319
it for me is how good, because if that had been

01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:01.739
bad, I think, you know, if that had been moon

01:09:01.739 --> 01:09:04.819
trap bad, then the whole thing would have been

01:09:04.819 --> 01:09:07.279
worse than moon trap. Yeah. A hundred percent.

01:09:07.619 --> 01:09:10.439
Yeah. But even, and again, it gives you the era

01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:13.960
notice how everything was cabled. So it's like

01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:17.000
the cyborg that attacks them first. It's got

01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:18.960
a cable coming out the back of it leading away.

01:09:19.060 --> 01:09:20.340
So it's like, you know, it's being controlled

01:09:20.340 --> 01:09:24.600
by someone. Well, it does also say about it needs

01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:27.340
power. So you could also have that argument as

01:09:27.340 --> 01:09:29.439
well. If it hasn't got its own power supplies,

01:09:29.579 --> 01:09:31.560
it needs to be plugged in. Yeah, I just thought

01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:34.979
there's a lot of good thought gone into it because

01:09:34.979 --> 01:09:38.600
obviously technology hadn't evolved. Wi -Fi existed

01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:42.109
in the very basic. standard back then but it

01:09:42.109 --> 01:09:44.710
wasn't something everyone knew about so it's

01:09:44.710 --> 01:09:46.710
like well why go over the top with explaining

01:09:46.710 --> 01:09:49.770
it everyone knows what cables are i think because

01:09:49.770 --> 01:09:52.229
have it controlled by this central brain is a

01:09:52.229 --> 01:09:54.210
good idea i think it shows that they were thinking

01:09:54.210 --> 01:09:57.090
about it because normally they would just just

01:09:57.090 --> 01:09:59.310
not have that cable and just go ah the robot

01:09:59.310 --> 01:10:02.090
yep and they would just it would just gloss over

01:10:02.090 --> 01:10:03.689
it and no one would think about it but because

01:10:03.689 --> 01:10:07.010
the cable's there it shows that there's been

01:10:07.010 --> 01:10:10.310
thought to it and been like okay this bit does

01:10:10.310 --> 01:10:13.069
this is putting now how does it actually work

01:10:13.069 --> 01:10:15.329
what what's doing this how does it think how

01:10:15.329 --> 01:10:18.729
yeah you know that makes sense can't help but

01:10:18.729 --> 01:10:21.689
think as well the squeak cyborg so his best mate

01:10:21.689 --> 01:10:25.029
that gets turned into the cyborg they must have

01:10:25.029 --> 01:10:28.590
taken inspiration for the borg for him yeah literally

01:10:28.590 --> 01:10:31.329
just this headpiece it's like yeah that that's

01:10:31.329 --> 01:10:34.920
borg well they see him through the the porthole

01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:36.739
and he's like come on i can see on the profile

01:10:36.739 --> 01:10:39.380
that's a fucking robot face come on guys yeah

01:10:39.380 --> 01:10:41.859
let's not pretend yeah yeah i don't remember

01:10:41.859 --> 01:10:44.800
square squeaks up a quadrant of his head being

01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:48.119
square yeah it's the silhouette is obvious or

01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:50.979
the glowing red eye blue eye sorry isn't it i

01:10:50.979 --> 01:10:52.680
think yeah he's ready would have got copyright

01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:54.920
oh yes terminator james cameron would have been

01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:58.359
after him um i'd actually like to see what they

01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:00.600
could do with a remaster of that not a remaster

01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:04.439
a remake Didn't they would? If you got the right

01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:08.920
team involved. It'd all be CGI now. That's the

01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:12.180
problem. It probably would all be CGI. Whereas

01:11:12.180 --> 01:11:14.539
if you got a proper effects house on it, you

01:11:14.539 --> 01:11:17.399
could make a really good film out of that. Really

01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:20.039
good film. I wonder if Short Circuit was made

01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:22.399
by the same people. Oh, I don't know. Because

01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:24.539
that's kind of very good robotics, isn't it?

01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:26.420
That's incredibly good robotics. That was all

01:11:26.420 --> 01:11:29.460
remote control on the most part. Oh, I don't

01:11:29.460 --> 01:11:33.500
know. I'll have to look that one up. Worth watching.

01:11:33.699 --> 01:11:43.680
Just don't expect too much. Yeah. Transfer complete.

01:11:44.340 --> 01:11:47.640
Okay, so after some deliberation, because again

01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:49.800
I neglected to actually pick anything for next

01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:54.520
episode. Oopsie. TJ's recommended The Arrival,

01:11:54.619 --> 01:11:57.960
1996 version. So yeah, we're not talking Arrival.

01:11:58.390 --> 01:12:01.090
which was a fairly modern film about these obelisks

01:12:01.090 --> 01:12:04.649
that turn up on Earth and weird squid creatures.

01:12:04.949 --> 01:12:08.550
We're talking The Arrival, 1996, and it's a sci

01:12:08.550 --> 01:12:11.329
-fi film starring, and it's a serious film, it's

01:12:11.329 --> 01:12:15.449
not a comedy, it's a sci -fi film starring Charlie

01:12:15.449 --> 01:12:17.430
Sheen. Charlie Sheen. What was the thing he said?

01:12:17.510 --> 01:12:20.909
Tiger. Tiger Blood. Tiger Blood, yeah. Charlie

01:12:20.909 --> 01:12:23.789
Tiger Blood Sheen. Tiger Blood Sheen, The Arrival,

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