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Bish Bash Bosh. That's what I got on TikTok,

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isn't it? Bosh. Oh, well, yeah. Bosh and the

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stain is gone. Isn't that bang? Let's sit it

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bang. Yeah, click bang. Then you've got Bish

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Bash Bosh, which was the Bob the Builder song

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he did. Was it? Oh, no, it wasn't a Bob the Builder.

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The Builder did a cover of it. It was one of

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those annoying kids songs. Yeah, Bosh is that

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massive dude who does like, he buys everything

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in the Chinese restaurant. I think his son or

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someone in his family is like a boxer as well.

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Don't think I've ever seen that. Big something.

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Big Bosh? Big John or something. Something like

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that. Big John. You know that website Cameo?

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Yeah. My boss's son got a Cameo from him. Oh,

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right. His son, Carl Francis. I can say his name.

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He's 21. We should do a Cameo episode at some

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point. Bosh, get in there, son, and all this

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stuff. Oh, okay. Yeah, but he goes, Bosch! All

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those young people listening who aren't in our

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statistics, according to any of the stats, they'll

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know who I'm talking about. No one knows what

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Robert's talking about. I think Rob made it up.

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No, he's a massive dude. Are you looking him

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up now? Big John the Bosch father. Yeah, the

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Bosch father. And he goes, he goes, he goes,

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Bosh! Well, yeah, there you go. Found him on

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Cameo. Yeah, I told you he's massive. Play it.

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In both ways. Play it, play it. Hang on then,

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this is the intro video. Hello there. I'm John

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Fisher, also known as Big John. I am now on Cameo.

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If you need any message regarding a birthday,

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good luck, get well, inspirational, or me just

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to take the mickey out of somebody, I'm your

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man. Bosh! Have a good day. Told you he said

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bosh. And that is £32 .27 that you will never

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see again. Oof, that's your Christmas present

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sorted. What? Bosh! Enter authorization code.

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Guess the intro. Mini Monk Special. It is the

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Mini Monk Special. Lots of people got it right

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as well. People entered, got it right, and...

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I'm going to put it down to Minnie Monk's superb

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acting is the reason why people found it so easy.

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Oh, yes. And James, who's one of the winners,

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said, frequent contender, not always winner,

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he said... Oh, hang on. You said his name. Does

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that mean he won? He won this time. We'll get

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to it. That considering... Because the way I

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did it, I didn't tell her how to say it. I just

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wrote it down, gave it to Gem. I was like, there

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you go. And Gem didn't know what they were either,

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I don't think. I was like, do you want me to

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show them to her? She was like, no, I want her

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to guess how the people were saying it to her.

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I reckon there would have been a couple that

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she would have known, Gem. Yeah, possibly. But

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obviously Minimug wouldn't have known a single

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one. Oh, she would have known one of them because

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I watched one of the films with her. Oh, okay.

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Well, either way, James was saying what a good

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job she did considering she didn't know, and

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I thought the same thing. I mean, it's even better

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when you hear it not monkified, but unfortunately

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the listeners will never hear that. No, because

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she did want to be mini -monked for it, which

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is fine. I've got that. Yeah, we're not cool.

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That's the reason why. Yeah, so all those very

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special listeners who may have noticed there

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wasn't a guest at the intro at the start of this

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episode. Because I'm not doing one. No, fair

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enough. It can be next year. It's Christmas break

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now, isn't it? So, and they'll find out more

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why at the end of the show, as I'll explain a

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few things. But for now, let's have some fun

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with the first entry. What is it? Clip, I guess.

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Clip, yeah. Roads? Where we're going, we won't

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need roads. Very easy. Back to the future. Back

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to the future. Yeah, very good. Absolutely. Classic

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scene. Yeah. Excellent. Next. I am the law. I

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am the law. I am the law! Good old Sylvester.

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Judge Dredd. Judge Dredd, yeah. Sylvester Stallone's

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Judge Dredd. Did you hear they're making a new

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Judge Dredd? You told me that. Tahiti, or whatever

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his name is. Well, the Doctor Who guy? No. Oh,

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yeah, the guy who directs stuff. Yeah, the guy

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from New Zealand. Who enjoys... then putting

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himself into the film as a terrible character.

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But he makes everything funny. Sometimes he makes

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a good film, and then other times it's just pony,

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and I just worry. We had Carl Urban judge Dredd.

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Dredd. That was good. Amazing. Give us a sequel

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to that. Same director, same film, just different

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story. Carl Urban could do the character again.

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It would be phenomenal. But no, now we're getting

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this. Interesting. I wonder who's going to have

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as Dredd then. Probably himself. Nah, he couldn't.

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i could see him putting himself as the bad guy

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as like a camped up kind of you know his character

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that he was tight yeah how do you say his name

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tight because i can't remember it and i can't

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i can't remember it so i'm gonna look it up now

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sorry if you're listening because i'm sure you

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are the only thing i can think of that i know

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the name of the film 100 is free guy i know he

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did one of the thors i think it was love and

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love and thunder love and uh Taika Waititi. Taika

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Waititi, that's it. Yeah, you've got it right.

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Yeah. Tim. Yeah. Next one. I say we take off

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and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the

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only way to be sure. Well, it is the only way

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to be sure. Aliens. Aliens. That was the one

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that you initially... Yeah, I went away and had

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a little kind of, let's have a think, let's have

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a think. And weirdly, monkifying her made it

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easier to then guess. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah,

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that could be Ellen Ripley. Come on, you apes.

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You want to live forever? That's my personal

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favourite, that one. Is it Planet of the Apes?

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No. Oh, God, no, it's not, is it? You got it

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right before. You told me the correct answer.

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Play it again. Come on, you apes. You want to

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live forever? I'm sure you texted me the correct

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answer for this. Or did you not? No, I didn't.

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I don't know it. Starship Troopers. Oh, God,

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it is Starship Troopers. Come on, you apes. You

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want to live forever? You're right. It is Starship

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Troopers. We're going to have to check the text.

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I thought you wrote that to me. Did I? Now we're

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just going to pause. Hold on, everyone. I completely

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blanked on that. Oh, no. You're going to kick

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me out the winner's lounge. Oh, dear, oh, dear.

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But luckily I'm an admin, so I'm just going to

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waltz back in there and go, middle finger, everyone,

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middle finger. Yeah, that's it. Okay, next one.

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Be excellent to each other and party on, dudes.

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Bill and Ted. Bill and Ted, of course. But it

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could have been either of them, but she would

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have known that one because she watched the first

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Bill and Ted with me. Yeah, well, it's... Party

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on, dudes. What other film are they saying to

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say that in? By Grabdar's hammer, by the sons

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of Worvan, you shall be avenged. I did have to

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tell them how to pronounce this one. Yeah, Galaxy

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Quest. Galaxy Quest, yeah. Just go back to the

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one just before. Be excellent to each other and

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party on, dudes. Yeah, okay, no, it is. That's...

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The president saying it. Lincoln says that. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's just what threw

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me was it's, I know the BX into each other is

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like, okay, no, fine. But that's, no matter what,

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that's Bill and Ted. But then I just heard the

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party on and it's just straight away in my brain

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went, shit, am I sure that's not Wayne's world?

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Because I was like, party on, Wayne. No, but

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yeah, but it's the BX. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

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Yeah, absolutely. Well, you almost got them all

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right. Oh, she did a wonderful job. Yeah, brilliant.

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Thank you very much. Well done, Mini Monk. Let's

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make sure we don't swear in this section because

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then she can actually listen to it. No, he's

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swearing. Okay, so who won? So both James and

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Simon got the guess the intro correct. So James,

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this is on Blue Sky. You can find him on at jimbo8e6

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.bluesky .social. That's James of Super 8 to

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Z fame. And Simon, one of the Studio Channel

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84 chaps from Who Takes Socks Off, Simon, well

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done, mate, might be his first entry into the

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winner's lounge since we opened the doors. It

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could be. You can find him on many places, but

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what I've chosen to say is on Twitter, X, and

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you can find him at Who Takes Socks Off. Who

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Takes Socks Off. And we also were running the...

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I'm going to keep it running until next... year

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basically the guess the logo competition that

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i did mention in the last episode and we have

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somebody already who has guessed all of those

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i think james and simon actually both guessed

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those as well and one of them certainly did and

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we have matt from a pint of cthulhu and you can

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find him over on twitter that's at a pint of

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cthulhu C -T -H -U -L -H -U. There we go. There

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we go. Sorry, that's going to be family because

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I just cut it in front in the middle of you speaking.

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Yeah, I know. So a pint of C -T -H -U -L -H -U.

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I think that's enough advertising for it. There

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we go. Well, we've got to spell it correctly.

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He got it right. That's true. Let's not be funny.

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He got it right. True. So that's going to keep

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going anyway. So you can message me privately.

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No guest intro this week. Having a break. Yep,

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Christmas break. It's like private school. We

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break up before everyone else. Yeah, and get

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longer too. Yeah. That's it. On to the next one.

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I said you would clip on TikTok. Now, I don't

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know if it's the full trailer. I don't think

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it is the full trailer of Star Trek. Star Trek,

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what's it called? Fleet Academy? Starfleet Academy.

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is it starfleet okay star trek starfleet academy

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9021 academy yeah the poster does make it look

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absolutely shocking and i i understand it's not

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made for us we've said this about star wars and

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we said it's for a new generation of people they're

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trying to get into star trek understand that

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fully however when the poster looks like it's

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either 90210 beverly hills or it looks like dawson's

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creek is about to start playing it starts making

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you scratch your head a little bit and um I was

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really kind of looking as I'm not going to touch

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that with a basketball because literally the

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poster is making me gag. I just think it just

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awful. And on TikTok the other day. Before you

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go too far, sorry, back to the poster. If that

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poster had been Strange New Worlds, I would have

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had a totally different opinion of it because

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for Strange New Worlds, I thought, oh, there's

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a funny episode coming up. Yes. That poster would

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have to be post Strange New Worlds existing.

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Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It cannot be

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an advert for a new series coming because if

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I'd seen that for Strange New Worlds, I would

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have been incredibly trepidatious about even

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watching. I would have been like, no. But you

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wouldn't think anything of it now? No, because

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I've seen what they've done. You'd think it's

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just a bit of fun. Yeah. Which is why publicly

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I didn't say anything other than, you know, I

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said something to you, but nothing publicly about

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it because I was like, it could just be doing

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a bit. And that's where we then get to this clip.

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So the clip I've seen, I'm pretty sure it's not

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the full trailer for Starfleet Academy, but it's

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a fairly long two or three minute clip of the

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USS Athena being attacked. There's a four minute

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version on YouTube. Okay, so maybe it is the

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whole thing then. And I've got to say, it looked

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really good. I was quite impressed by it. The

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design of the ship looked good. You did have

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a coming apart ship though there. Was it a coming

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apart? Oh, yeah, the alien ship. But I kind of

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accept that more of an alien ship because it's

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an alien race. I kind of expect that more of,

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well, I'm still in the old fashioned, I guess,

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the Federation just, no, we actually stick our

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nacelles on with glue and nails. Not glue and

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nails, you know what I mean. Glue and nails.

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Quick, get the no more nails. We've lost a nacelle.

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Someone get a cab to hold it on for 24 hours.

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So it's definitely hardened. Yeah. I thought

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the scene looked good. But what was going through

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my head is basically we're watching a four minute

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clip here with no cadets in it. There's only

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one cadet you kind of see who's looking at this

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kind of weird digital thing that's overtaking

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the ship. And that's the only side of the cadets

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we see. So it's like, is that? good does that

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mean actually these cadets exist in the show

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but actually it's not focusing on them or is

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it they've just chosen the strongest scene that

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they've got from the series and that's what they're

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showing that's the worry isn't it is this the

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most fun bit exactly because i reckon you probably

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could have made a decent trailer out of section

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30 whatever it was oh you could have made a good

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trailer out of that and we've seen that oh no

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it's not good I have a question. What year is

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it? It's after... It's after the burn. It's the

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most... It's basically following the end of Discovery.

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They've reformed to Starfleet and it's the reformed

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Starfleet. The most future version. Why does

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she need glasses? Don't go down that. Oh my God,

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you'll get killed online for that one. Why? Well,

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why did James T. Kirk need glasses in the Star

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Trek films? Bones gives him literal glasses as

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a present because he's allergic to, I think they

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called it... uh retinol which is actually something

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that you can now buy i think for your hair and

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in the in the world um right reticulase or something

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like that i think he calls it he's allergic to

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the drug that they use to fix your eyes basically

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and it's a drug it's not just surgery yeah i

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presume so i'm just going by what i remember

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of um well which one is it it is the search for

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spock i'm pretty sure yeah because it's his birthday

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and he's depressed um well like but yeah To be

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fair, it might just be a choice. Some people,

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you remember the entire premise of Star Trek,

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the original series and the original series films

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is Bones will not go in a transporter. He hates

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the transporter. There will be people out there

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that just don't want to have things done. Well,

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because he knows if he steps into that transporter,

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he is dead. Yeah. And it's not him on the other

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side. Well, yes, that's true. I would put it

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down to that. And I think a lot of people have

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put that down as their kind of argument is because

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glasses still exist and why wouldn't you? Well,

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to be fair, throughout the entire TNG, Geordi

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has a visor. Yet when they get to the modern

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films, it's like, can we just take the visor

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away and give him funky robot eyes? And they

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do that. Yeah. Well, that's kind of an implication

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that they've solved blindness in him. Or they've

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certainly miniaturized the particular technology

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that he needed and utilized. Which he probably

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did himself. True. Or dated, isn't it? But either

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way, I'm not too fussed about the glasses. I

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don't really care about them. I think that's

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just a stylistic choice. And you know what? If

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someone still wants to wear glasses, then...

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I mean, I get it, though, because the actors

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might need glasses. So if you're going to make

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it in canon, they are actors who aren't in the

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50 millionth century or whatever. And to be fair,

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I would want to wear glasses if I was on that

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fucking bridge. Because just like Discovery,

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apparently in the future, they've ran out of

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light bulbs. So the bridge has to just be in

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permanent dark. Can you imagine how much that

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would fuck your eyes up? They love LEDs, though.

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They love LED strips. Yeah, but the bridge is

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dark. It's like Star Trek Next Generation. You

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walk onto the bridge, it's lovely. Daylight.

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Oh, you know what? It's the night shift. Computer.

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Lower light level. Nice. Discovery. This looks

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like it's always in permanent bloody darkness

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on the bridge. Do you want to know my unfiltered,

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honest opinion of the show? Go on. It's absolute...

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I'd know when it starts. Oh, sorry. That's okay.

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I talk about my knob, I don't know where it starts,

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I don't know where it finishes. Well, we know

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where it starts, but it's so big we don't know

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where it ends. Oh, thank you. You're welcome.

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You're stroking something other than that. We're

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being nice to each other nowadays. We're not

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being horrible anymore. I'm calling a ceasefire

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on being horrible to each other. Oh, Starfleet

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Academy's already out. What? Oh, no, it's a teaser.

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Sorry. Yeah, the teaser's the thing I was talking

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about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paramount's just...

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Four minutes or something. Yeah, fair enough.

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We don't care. Anyway, what have I been watching

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this week? See how when he's glazed over, he

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sees fire, comment on that, mate. Right, okay.

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What have I been watching? Three things. One,

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totally not sci -fi at all. Boston Legal, I've

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started watching because William Shatner's in

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it. I know the name of it. Legal drama, really

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fun. Bit of drama, bit of comedy thrown in. Really

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good fun. Well worth it on Netflix. No, Disney

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at the moment. I have seen two films that are

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sci -fi. Go on. Would you like to hear about

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the old one or the new one first? I'll go for

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the old one first. Phenomenon with John Travolta.

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Never heard of it. You never heard of it? Oh,

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okay, right. So John Travolta plays a dumbass

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mechanic who's a bit thick. But everyone in the

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town knows him. He's after some woman who's just

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moved in. Then after his birthday party in the

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pub one day, he walks outside and sees a flash

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in the sky, hears a bang and gets thrown backwards,

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wakes up and then can't sleep. his brain now

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learns everything and he just every night he's

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just reading books and then he's like realizing

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all of the things that he wants to do so it's

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like he's improved solar he's improved fertilizers

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and he's just constantly like powering through

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these books and things and there's an emergency

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situation and at one point where he learns portuguese

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in 20 minutes to save a child oh these these

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weird things and yeah it's basically a brain

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yak is something turned into brain yeah but think

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about um is it limitless the film they did modern

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day film that they did about a drug that makes

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you super smart while you have it and whatever

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um turns off the the limits of the brain or whatever

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anyway that's the idea it's meant to be eventually

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develops things like telekinesis he's able to

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move pages and a pen with the power of his mind

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let me guess it goes too far and he starts like

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it explodes well i was really enjoying i think

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this is really good it could have a really nice

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ending where he kind of solves kind of hunger

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for the world or he solves something or then

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they take the power away but what he's he's done

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for good or he chooses to do something for good

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before losing the power something like that would

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have been brilliant okay you want to know the

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ending he flies off to space no it's a brain

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tumor oh yeah brain tumor and it just turns out

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that apparently it's now making his brain operate

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at a super high level that they've never seen

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before so he's gonna die so the ending end 15

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20 minutes of the film is basically a doctor

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comes to visit him saying we can't do surgery

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but we want to do open brain surgery on you to

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explore it we might be able to prolong your life

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a bit more he says no i just want to go home

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and die and just live out the rest of my few

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days that i've got and then the surgeon goes

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to court says no we're forcing you to have brain

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surgery in the court agreed because of course

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that happens in the real world uh so he escapes

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prison and then goes to his person that he's

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persuaded to be his girlfriend who also has two

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little kids by the way who now love him to bits

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to go and die at her house right and that's breaking

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the kids of the heart yeah he then dies and that's

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how it ends and then everyone's happier uh forest

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whitaker's in it okay really looking young and

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less saggy than he looks now um and he's brilliant

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in it and now he's changed all these little people's

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lives but that is literally it so it's gone from

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this is really cool kind of where could we go

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with this to no it's brain brain tumor and he's

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always dead so the alien zap gave him a tumor

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yeah it wasn't an alien zap that was all all

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linked down to the flashing light you saw was

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the tumor oh yeah exactly it's just like you

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could have done so much more with this you could

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have gone in a completely different direction

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with it it was an okay film i was really enjoying

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it up until that point The right fucking downer.

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What's it called again? Phenomenon. Yeah. Okay.

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So I watched that. And then I also watched a

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modern film. I finally got around to watching

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the Fantastic Four First Step. Oh, yes, you did.

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I won't ruin it for you because obviously I know

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you want to watch it. I really enjoyed it. And

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as much as, oh, my God, if you read the reviews,

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people say, oh, the effects are brilliant. I'm

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looking at it going. What fucking film did they

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watch? I won't believe that for a moment. It's

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Disney. There are bits where you're seeing the

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thing walking along where you can clearly see

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he wasn't in that scene. Disney is one step above

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Alien Rubicon. Yeah. They are absolutely flipping

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dreadful. The Silver Surfer Lady does not look

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good in it. She looks good in the trailer. When

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you see her up close in it. really not because

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i i've got to say i love that trailer where she's

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saying about um galactus coming you know he does

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which does a little speech so the way they've

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done that in the trailer so cool yeah that's

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yeah up close it's not as playstation 2 ish oh

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no it's it's it's at least playstation 3 ish

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no it it's not terrible it's absolutely acceptable

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but when you consider we've seen the films Going

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all the way back to almost the early 2000s with

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Iron Man and how good that first Iron Man looked.

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We've gone backwards. That looks no different

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than the Silver Surfer film, which is quite a

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few years ago now. That looks just the same.

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No, when you see it on screen, you'll see it's

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markably better than that. Well, the thing is,

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we've said this before, Disney are pumping out

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so much tosh, they're not giving. any of the

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artists enough time to make it good. So they

00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:08.079
get given enough time per scene. You get it as

00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:10.720
good as you can. Next one. Next one. We've got

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to get this film. We've got a turnaround of one

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year for this film. Well, this is it. And this

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is what's happened there. There's some bits that

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look really good and then some bits that you

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just look and go, that's really ropey. Why did

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they, how did they just say that that was the

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best? Yeah, no. Otherwise though, really enjoyed

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it. Really, really cool how it's kind of this

00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:33.059
50s, 60s -esque. futuristic world so it's modern

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day but it's still stuck in the 50s and 60s like

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the comic books looked it's really fun and some

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of the bits they do in it all the actors really

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good really good choice for all of them um i

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can't really give it a negative except for those

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very roby mine and points it's really good and

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well worth watching how many after credit scenes

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uh two do what do i need to know before i go

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into this nothing nothing at all okay thank god

00:24:02.549 --> 00:24:04.690
for that i don't have to watch like six films

00:24:04.690 --> 00:24:07.210
to understand something no no no no there's nothing

00:24:07.210 --> 00:24:09.309
at all the two after credit scenes don't ruin

00:24:09.309 --> 00:24:13.369
the film for you um one is just comedic the first

00:24:13.369 --> 00:24:17.049
one you come to uh stupid comedic actually made

00:24:17.049 --> 00:24:19.710
me laugh quite a lot as a dad so you'll appreciate

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it and the final final final after scene is um

00:24:24.130 --> 00:24:30.250
the back of dr doom basically so it's going to

00:24:30.250 --> 00:24:32.849
tie into avengers dr doom so this is the film

00:24:32.849 --> 00:24:36.069
to watch prior to dr doom because obviously there's

00:24:36.069 --> 00:24:39.349
going to be some sort of tie between their earth

00:24:39.349 --> 00:24:42.890
and whatever earth avengers yeah because they're

00:24:42.890 --> 00:24:45.849
in a different dimension i'm assuming yeah it's

00:24:45.849 --> 00:24:47.910
a different earth to the earth that we've already

00:24:47.910 --> 00:24:50.509
known about for the original because i think

00:24:50.509 --> 00:24:52.529
that's how they're bringing the x -men into it

00:24:52.529 --> 00:24:57.130
yeah i would imagine there'll be their own Earth

00:24:57.130 --> 00:24:59.670
as well, and there'll be some sort of multiversal

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collision. Because Spider -Man, if you remember

00:25:00.730 --> 00:25:03.269
the end of The Last Spider -Man, and the end...

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Well, I haven't seen the most recent Venom. I

00:25:06.750 --> 00:25:09.910
know they're different things, but the Venom

00:25:09.910 --> 00:25:12.430
one where he kind of warps to a different reality,

00:25:12.630 --> 00:25:14.650
which has got Spider -Man in it, and then he

00:25:14.650 --> 00:25:17.369
walks back again. Oh, yes, you're right. But

00:25:17.369 --> 00:25:19.109
that was the end of the second one, I want to

00:25:19.109 --> 00:25:20.710
say, and I don't remember seeing the third one.

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I enjoyed the latest Venom. It's nowhere near

00:25:23.630 --> 00:25:26.079
as good as the other two. The first two were

00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:28.700
brilliant. The third one is, you could have done

00:25:28.700 --> 00:25:30.680
a lot better with this. I don't remember if I've

00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:33.000
seen it or not. I don't think I have. It's where

00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:35.500
there's multiple different types of Venom. Yeah,

00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:36.880
I'm going to have to watch it to find out. But

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I have enjoyed the ones I have seen. But by all

00:25:39.539 --> 00:25:42.079
accounts, I've heard rumours of Alan Richardson

00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.059
taking the Venom mantle in the actual Marvel

00:25:45.059 --> 00:25:47.480
Universe as an alternate reality version of him.

00:25:47.579 --> 00:25:50.480
See, I would have seen him as Sandman. When you

00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:53.450
consider what Sandman looks like in the... Not

00:25:53.450 --> 00:25:56.089
the Sam Raimi universe, but whichever one. He

00:25:56.089 --> 00:25:58.069
was in Spider -Man 2, wasn't he? Which was the

00:25:58.069 --> 00:25:59.990
Tobey Maguire. Yeah, but they've brought him

00:25:59.990 --> 00:26:02.869
back already. Oh, yes, you're right. But again,

00:26:03.009 --> 00:26:05.609
I really like that final Spider -Man. No, no,

00:26:05.609 --> 00:26:07.369
the Spider -Man films are the best ones. The

00:26:07.369 --> 00:26:11.170
Tobey Maguire comes along with the other two.

00:26:11.269 --> 00:26:13.609
Brilliant. Really, really clever. Really worth

00:26:13.609 --> 00:26:17.170
watching that one. Okay, the ones I like. I haven't

00:26:17.170 --> 00:26:19.769
seen the most recent. I keep saying Guardians

00:26:19.769 --> 00:26:22.450
of the Galaxy. I still haven't seen it. Probably

00:26:22.450 --> 00:26:24.970
will never will. I really like the Spider -Mans.

00:26:25.009 --> 00:26:27.609
I really like the Deadpools. I think they're

00:26:27.609 --> 00:26:32.369
great. Logan was a fantastic Wolverine film and

00:26:32.369 --> 00:26:34.750
also really liked Wolverine in the Deadpool one.

00:26:35.849 --> 00:26:40.230
But I think they could now change the Wolverine

00:26:40.230 --> 00:26:43.430
to being Cavill. They could bring in that old

00:26:43.430 --> 00:26:46.849
Cavill. They could bring that in and I think

00:26:46.849 --> 00:26:51.069
that would be really cool. Who was it I saw as

00:26:51.069 --> 00:26:53.089
a new Batman? Alan Richardson might have been

00:26:53.089 --> 00:26:55.549
linked to Batman as well at another point. No,

00:26:55.670 --> 00:26:59.109
he was. That's what he was linked to. Which would

00:26:59.109 --> 00:27:01.250
have liked that too. Difficulty with the Cavalry

00:27:01.250 --> 00:27:04.150
is you've just had Deadpool versus Wolverine,

00:27:04.170 --> 00:27:07.049
which is done amazingly at the cinema. So why

00:27:07.049 --> 00:27:10.210
wouldn't you say, let's keep Reynolds and Hugh

00:27:10.210 --> 00:27:15.410
Jackman still, bring them into... Fantastic Four

00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:18.470
First Steps version of their Earth with whatever

00:27:18.470 --> 00:27:20.990
this Doctor Doom Earth is going to be and then

00:27:20.990 --> 00:27:22.890
the modern adventure and then tie them all together

00:27:22.890 --> 00:27:24.529
because you've already got your two actors that

00:27:24.529 --> 00:27:26.650
people are going to go and see for those two

00:27:26.650 --> 00:27:29.609
particular roles. So it doesn't even matter which

00:27:29.609 --> 00:27:32.849
X -Men route they go. If they just recast all

00:27:32.849 --> 00:27:34.809
the X -Men from scratch except for Wolverine,

00:27:34.970 --> 00:27:38.049
it really doesn't matter. It will be whoever's

00:27:38.049 --> 00:27:40.710
turned up. Well, it will be the X -Men versions

00:27:40.710 --> 00:27:46.720
from the various Deadpool. I think it, yes. I've

00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:50.940
seen rumours of Frasier coming back as Beast.

00:27:51.140 --> 00:27:55.619
Oh, really? He's Hank? Yeah. So, you know, the

00:27:55.619 --> 00:27:58.759
other guys are still around as well. Of course

00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:01.440
they are. So Picard and... I can't remember Picard.

00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:09.819
Patrick Stewart. Yeah, but I would say Patrick

00:28:09.819 --> 00:28:12.480
Stewart's too old now. yeah i mean looking at

00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:16.579
him in oh god what was our multiverse of madness

00:28:16.579 --> 00:28:20.500
he even in that he looked well they'd use the

00:28:20.500 --> 00:28:22.400
younger versions and they would use uh the two

00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.960
james mcavoy yeah and the other guy which is

00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.019
fine because wolverine turned up in that and

00:28:27.019 --> 00:28:28.920
in fact you could tie he tells him to fuck off

00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:32.039
doesn't he yeah so you could kind of tie it into

00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:35.859
that that world anyway somehow but thinking you'd

00:28:35.859 --> 00:28:38.380
have to look at the deadpool 2 and how they tied

00:28:38.380 --> 00:28:42.339
it in because you'd obviously got um Oh, what's

00:28:42.339 --> 00:28:46.140
the name of the cyborg bloke? We're so good at

00:28:46.140 --> 00:28:47.759
this, aren't we, guys? I just think it's better.

00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:50.099
We've gone on such a tangent and we're doing

00:28:50.099 --> 00:28:52.099
such an us thing of just going, do you remember

00:28:52.099 --> 00:28:54.000
that guy? But yeah, he was in this other thing.

00:28:54.019 --> 00:28:55.900
And he was in this thing. And we go on and we

00:28:55.900 --> 00:28:57.960
don't know the name of the thing. Josh Brolin

00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.819
as Cable. So we've got Cable in there as well,

00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:02.759
which didn't turn up in Deadpool Wolverine, which

00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:03.799
I would have thought. Which he was gutted about

00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:05.680
too. Josh Brolin's been an infuse saying, they

00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:07.559
just didn't ask me to come back. Which is really

00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:09.180
sprightly because he's a brilliant character.

00:29:09.259 --> 00:29:11.349
Because everyone loved him. I can understand

00:29:11.349 --> 00:29:13.369
why, though, because the Deadpool Wolverine story

00:29:13.369 --> 00:29:16.990
just didn't need him. If you think, it didn't

00:29:16.990 --> 00:29:19.269
need any of the characters from any of the other

00:29:19.269 --> 00:29:22.410
films from Deadpool for it, did it? Really? No,

00:29:22.509 --> 00:29:24.890
probably not. So, except for the party scene

00:29:24.890 --> 00:29:26.630
with his friends at the house at the beginning,

00:29:26.869 --> 00:29:30.170
that's it. The rest of it is just him. Anyway,

00:29:30.410 --> 00:29:33.069
gone on too long about it. We were talking about

00:29:33.069 --> 00:29:35.369
it. First, Fantastic Four, well worth watching.

00:29:35.529 --> 00:29:37.769
And that's it. That's all I've watched. Oh, okay.

00:29:38.269 --> 00:29:40.970
And we've been playing Peak. Oh, we've been playing

00:29:40.970 --> 00:29:43.309
peak, yeah. We even played chess in the peak

00:29:43.309 --> 00:29:45.390
for some reason. And we played chess in the peak

00:29:45.390 --> 00:29:47.089
as well, which is really frustrating. We're really

00:29:47.089 --> 00:29:50.049
tired. We should go to bed. Let's spend 45 minutes

00:29:50.049 --> 00:29:54.630
playing chess. And it was very much like, I move,

00:29:54.809 --> 00:29:56.769
you go checkmate, I move, you're checkmating,

00:29:56.769 --> 00:29:58.150
I move, you're checkmating. And then you still

00:29:58.150 --> 00:30:03.819
won. Yeah, well, only just. Only just. I've asked

00:30:03.819 --> 00:30:06.740
for Christmas for a computerised chess set so

00:30:06.740 --> 00:30:08.839
I can learn to actually play chess. Because I

00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:12.279
was thinking, that's probably the first ever

00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:14.980
time I've played a real game of chess. It may

00:30:14.980 --> 00:30:17.819
be the first time I've ever won as being an adult.

00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.619
Because if you play Miranda, she will win. Right,

00:30:20.660 --> 00:30:27.259
gotcha. What have you watched, Rob? What have

00:30:27.259 --> 00:30:30.190
I watched? Okay, let me get my notes. So we have

00:30:30.190 --> 00:30:31.990
finally caught up with Stranger Things just in

00:30:31.990 --> 00:30:35.130
time. So we did all of the previous seasons and

00:30:35.130 --> 00:30:37.670
the new one was out for like a day. Yeah. So

00:30:37.670 --> 00:30:39.630
we were watching like the last episode before

00:30:39.630 --> 00:30:43.289
the new one. All I've seen is critics slam it.

00:30:43.690 --> 00:30:47.890
Well, no. What? Yeah. I think it's wicked. It's

00:30:47.890 --> 00:30:50.410
a little bit frustrating because it's very easy

00:30:50.410 --> 00:30:54.829
to spoil. Both Brad and I had similar spoilers.

00:30:58.160 --> 00:30:59.839
i don't even want to say because it was spoiled

00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:04.900
but it's like people saying oh look out for this

00:31:04.900 --> 00:31:07.680
in this episode or remember you'll need to remember

00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.279
something from another episode or remember to

00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:14.000
do you know remember this character or um do

00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.440
you remember this thing that happened right little

00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:20.200
comments that you see on facebook that are not

00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:23.039
meant to be that they're purposely trying to

00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:25.380
spoil it but by being i didn't spoil it i didn't

00:31:25.380 --> 00:31:30.220
say but because you mentioned this thing or to

00:31:30.220 --> 00:31:33.000
do this or this you've accidentally done it yeah

00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:35.819
so that happened to miranda because then she

00:31:35.819 --> 00:31:39.200
clocked straight away what it was and it's like

00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:42.660
oh it's such a shame when things get spoiled

00:31:42.660 --> 00:31:45.799
yeah absolutely which is why we always say spoiler

00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.980
warning yeah well we do our best on here but

00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:52.960
we do spoil some things so not not enough for

00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:55.700
it to ruin it but also like a couple of kind

00:31:55.700 --> 00:31:58.420
of surprises weren't as big surprises as they

00:31:58.420 --> 00:32:00.839
could have been yeah that makes sense no no i

00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.359
understand that so i'm like but i've got a blanket

00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:06.559
on all things i won't go on facebook when i want

00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.299
to watch something i just don't go on it so i

00:32:08.299 --> 00:32:10.740
don't get things yeah that's fair enough it's

00:32:10.740 --> 00:32:12.559
very hard isn't it in the world of social media

00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.039
the day after an episode is aired you're basically

00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:18.920
screwed um me and jem have been taking k through

00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.140
watching traitors and we watched the celebrity

00:32:22.140 --> 00:32:26.579
season first and obviously we were about a month

00:32:26.579 --> 00:32:30.759
late so as we started watching it it was coming

00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:34.160
to the end of uh broadcast and literally i think

00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.299
we got to episode two i went to work the next

00:32:36.299 --> 00:32:40.859
day turned on turn on social media oh look xxx1

00:32:40.859 --> 00:32:43.519
oh Well, now I know. So now I've got to pretend

00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.920
I don't know. And then literally the next day,

00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.000
Jim said, yeah, someone spoiled it for me as

00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:50.759
well. Oh, it was on heart radio on the way to

00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.339
work. Oh, that's out of order. You can't stop

00:32:53.339 --> 00:32:56.160
the radio. No, especially when she listens to

00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:57.940
it to go to work. So it's like, yeah, you're

00:32:57.940 --> 00:33:03.339
stuffed, really. That's a shame, really. Because

00:33:03.339 --> 00:33:06.359
films doesn't seem to happen with so much nowadays.

00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.119
But TV shows, people love spoiling TV shows.

00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.960
That's not fair. Some people wait for the whole

00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.099
season to come out to watch them all in one go.

00:33:16.299 --> 00:33:18.660
But I think that's more down to the fact that

00:33:18.660 --> 00:33:22.240
terrestrial TV, even cable TV or satellite TV,

00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.599
whatever you want to call it now, they're so

00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:28.539
little on. The shows people are ruining. are

00:33:28.539 --> 00:33:31.200
the highlights of the year. You think how many

00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:33.359
shows we used to watch and series that would

00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.099
be on throughout an entire year on TV. Now everything's

00:33:37.099 --> 00:33:39.859
on streaming and it's just free to access and

00:33:39.859 --> 00:33:43.579
get straight onto it. They expect everyone to

00:33:43.579 --> 00:33:46.559
have watched it day one. Whereas if you think

00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:48.720
about it, things like, oh, if you missed this

00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:51.299
episode of, well, do Estenders, not that I watched

00:33:51.299 --> 00:33:54.980
Estenders. If you missed one of the... weekday

00:33:54.980 --> 00:33:57.779
version of estenders yeah it was fine because

00:33:57.779 --> 00:34:00.519
you knew there was a sunday omnibus that you

00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.279
could watch the sunday omnibus to catch up and

00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:06.359
then the week later you'd hear about it oh this

00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.980
is what's going on but now everything's streaming

00:34:08.980 --> 00:34:11.960
and immediately kind of here's oh it's on ioplay

00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:13.900
so you can catch up whether you've missed it

00:34:13.900 --> 00:34:17.909
within an hour half an hour a week's time people

00:34:17.909 --> 00:34:19.750
don't care about spoiling things but i also think

00:34:19.750 --> 00:34:22.590
there's just not the number of shows yeah that

00:34:22.590 --> 00:34:24.750
there were when it was just normal television

00:34:24.750 --> 00:34:26.829
it does feel like that it does feel like when

00:34:26.829 --> 00:34:29.449
when a show is popping off it does kind of feel

00:34:29.449 --> 00:34:31.090
like there's only one show on the planet yeah

00:34:31.090 --> 00:34:32.909
like game of thrones it felt like that was the

00:34:32.909 --> 00:34:35.130
only show anyone i know you didn't watch it but

00:34:35.130 --> 00:34:37.170
it felt like it was the only show anyone in the

00:34:37.170 --> 00:34:39.329
world was watching but this is to do with ratings

00:34:39.329 --> 00:34:42.929
isn't it and the same with cinema if a film studio

00:34:42.929 --> 00:34:48.750
knows that this big a star kind of um a celeb

00:34:48.750 --> 00:34:51.369
alias celeb kind of film is coming out full of

00:34:51.369 --> 00:34:54.070
people uh i was going to say the expendables

00:34:54.070 --> 00:34:56.909
but they were shit um let's just say like there's

00:34:56.909 --> 00:34:58.630
going to be this hollywood summer blockbusters

00:34:58.630 --> 00:35:00.909
coming out and you've got a film that you know

00:35:00.909 --> 00:35:03.909
is good but it's never going to be a summer blockbuster

00:35:03.909 --> 00:35:07.230
you're going to say i'll push that to a couple

00:35:07.230 --> 00:35:09.599
of months later and we'll release it then instead,

00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:12.440
because you get the better chance. And in TV

00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.280
world, it was always about ratings and who's

00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:18.159
watching what channel. So BBC One, BBC Two, BBC

00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:21.599
Three, BBC Four, not BBC Four, BBC One, BBC Two,

00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.980
ICV, Channel Four, Channel Five eventually, all

00:35:24.980 --> 00:35:26.980
would go against each other. So you would get...

00:35:27.210 --> 00:35:29.289
Oh, BBC One's got a drama on that they've just

00:35:29.289 --> 00:35:31.349
released. Oh, God, what am I going to watch?

00:35:31.429 --> 00:35:33.630
That or what's on ITV? They've been done at the

00:35:33.630 --> 00:35:36.130
same time. Streaming doesn't care about that

00:35:36.130 --> 00:35:38.190
because it's that immediate access. So people

00:35:38.190 --> 00:35:39.869
can go, well, I'm going to watch this because

00:35:39.869 --> 00:35:42.170
it's out on Netflix. I'm going to then binge

00:35:42.170 --> 00:35:44.389
watch it because it's also out on Paramount,

00:35:44.409 --> 00:35:47.710
this new show. It doesn't matter that they've

00:35:47.710 --> 00:35:49.570
come out at the same time anymore because you

00:35:49.570 --> 00:35:53.409
could just swap between it. Whereas TV relied

00:35:53.409 --> 00:35:56.760
on... If we get the better ratings, people are

00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.440
going to come to our channel. So we will release

00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.820
more at the same time. So we do conflict with

00:36:00.820 --> 00:36:06.219
other channels. Yeah. Still, we don't like spoilers.

00:36:06.460 --> 00:36:09.539
No. I do my best on here to tell people about

00:36:09.539 --> 00:36:13.320
spoilers. But how long do you reckon is the time

00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.980
before it's safe to spoil something or it's fair

00:36:15.980 --> 00:36:18.659
game? I reckon something big, let's say like

00:36:18.659 --> 00:36:21.690
Stranger Things, I think a month. i think a month

00:36:21.690 --> 00:36:24.050
is a fair amount because if it's such a big thing

00:36:24.050 --> 00:36:27.909
that people genuinely care about and you're you

00:36:27.909 --> 00:36:30.070
care about watching it you're going to watch

00:36:30.070 --> 00:36:32.650
it pretty quick yeah but i would say a month

00:36:32.650 --> 00:36:34.469
is fair because some people aren't going to go

00:36:34.469 --> 00:36:36.949
especially they've got parents and little kids

00:36:36.949 --> 00:36:39.070
and it's like you know what i've got a little

00:36:39.070 --> 00:36:41.769
kid the only time i'm going to get to watch this

00:36:41.769 --> 00:36:43.570
is when really i should be going to sleep because

00:36:43.570 --> 00:36:46.789
i'm fucking exhausted it means you are sometimes

00:36:46.789 --> 00:36:49.349
going to be waiting two or three days, maybe

00:36:49.349 --> 00:36:50.849
even a couple of weeks, and then you're going

00:36:50.849 --> 00:36:52.110
to go, well, I'm going to have to binge the next

00:36:52.110 --> 00:36:55.590
few episodes in one go when I get a chance to.

00:36:55.989 --> 00:36:59.690
So that month, I think, is fair enough. I don't

00:36:59.690 --> 00:37:01.530
think anything's shorter than that because, yeah,

00:37:01.570 --> 00:37:03.969
that just gives the fans a chance. And after

00:37:03.969 --> 00:37:06.530
a month, if you haven't watched it, you probably

00:37:06.530 --> 00:37:09.690
don't entirely care that much if you know what's

00:37:09.690 --> 00:37:12.349
going to happen. Yeah. Yeah, I guess when thinking

00:37:12.349 --> 00:37:14.389
about it, it can take Miranda and I three nights

00:37:14.389 --> 00:37:17.559
to watch a film. Yeah, I know the feeling. Yeah.

00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:22.519
That's all we've watched, but I have played three

00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.900
cool games. Just got to say, in Stranger Things,

00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.159
is the bad guy still the Vengabus? Oh, sorry.

00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.960
Yeah, and he's coming. The Vengabus is coming

00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.760
with the Vengaboy. Oh, wow. The Vecnabus is coming.

00:37:38.769 --> 00:37:40.789
Yeah, he's still in it. He's had a bit of a glow

00:37:40.789 --> 00:37:42.809
up too. They've done an interesting... Oh, yeah,

00:37:42.929 --> 00:37:45.070
I've seen. I've seen like the original outfit

00:37:45.070 --> 00:37:47.329
versus what he now looks like. Yeah, so before

00:37:47.329 --> 00:37:50.789
it was full outfit. Fully practical. With bits

00:37:50.789 --> 00:37:53.769
of CG to make it move and stuff. This one, it's

00:37:53.769 --> 00:37:56.429
clearly his still... To me, it really looks like

00:37:56.429 --> 00:37:58.429
face makeup. And then he's probably in a suit,

00:37:58.510 --> 00:38:01.710
like just a green suit or something. I wonder

00:38:01.710 --> 00:38:03.429
if that's what they've done. Because there's

00:38:03.429 --> 00:38:06.730
no way the way they've styled him, it could be...

00:38:07.179 --> 00:38:10.219
This isn't spoilers. It's obvious that this guy...

00:38:10.219 --> 00:38:12.280
The whole point is the whole series, isn't it?

00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.599
You only have to open Netflix to have parts of

00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.699
it spoiled for you, which I complained about

00:38:18.699 --> 00:38:21.599
to Miranda when we were watching. That's a spoiler.

00:38:21.739 --> 00:38:26.280
The image on the screen is in the fourth fucking

00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:29.599
episode. Why are they showing you this thing

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:34.929
happening as the splash image? the same thing

00:38:34.929 --> 00:38:37.130
happened okay so i can talk about this because

00:38:37.130 --> 00:38:39.650
it's way out so i think it was season three one

00:38:39.650 --> 00:38:42.329
of the characters isn't there at the end of the

00:38:42.329 --> 00:38:45.050
season before and you don't know where that character

00:38:45.050 --> 00:38:48.309
is you think that character's dead but the splash

00:38:48.309 --> 00:38:51.869
image for the next season is that character what

00:38:51.869 --> 00:38:54.349
a massive spoiler that is because you haven't

00:38:54.349 --> 00:38:56.550
even watched the show yet and you don't know

00:38:56.550 --> 00:38:58.849
that till a couple of episodes into the show

00:38:58.849 --> 00:39:02.909
yeah it's like come on guys like It's incredibly

00:39:02.909 --> 00:39:05.789
unfair when they do that. I really, really dislike

00:39:05.789 --> 00:39:09.889
it when people... Or when you get a next episode

00:39:09.889 --> 00:39:13.510
bit at the end of an episode and it shows you

00:39:13.510 --> 00:39:15.309
a clip from the next episode. It's like, I don't

00:39:15.309 --> 00:39:17.829
want to see that. Yeah. I don't want to see that

00:39:17.829 --> 00:39:19.969
and then be waiting a whole week to find out.

00:39:20.050 --> 00:39:22.849
I think Wednesday did that. It's like, all the

00:39:22.849 --> 00:39:24.889
episodes are out. Why are you showing me what's

00:39:24.889 --> 00:39:26.710
happening in the next episode? I'm about to watch

00:39:26.710 --> 00:39:29.289
the next episode. Oh, another thing in Stranger

00:39:29.289 --> 00:39:31.530
Things. Someone else can tell me this. I think

00:39:31.530 --> 00:39:34.710
it was between episode three and four. The last

00:39:34.710 --> 00:39:39.710
cliffhanger part of episode three, they replay

00:39:39.710 --> 00:39:43.230
the exact five minutes at the start of episode

00:39:43.230 --> 00:39:46.829
four. The exact same scene gets played again.

00:39:47.250 --> 00:39:49.690
And then it does the splash screen saying the

00:39:49.690 --> 00:39:52.909
show. Why on earth would you do that? Because

00:39:52.909 --> 00:39:55.389
it's not like I had to wait a week. It's not,

00:39:55.429 --> 00:39:58.130
you know, like had it been on terrestrial TV.

00:39:58.829 --> 00:40:01.369
I would have longed for someone to do the last

00:40:01.369 --> 00:40:03.289
little bit cliffhanger of the episode before

00:40:03.289 --> 00:40:06.250
to put it on. Yeah. Why on earth would you do

00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:08.110
that? If I didn't remember, I'll just go to the

00:40:08.110 --> 00:40:09.269
previous episode and watch the end bit again.

00:40:09.769 --> 00:40:11.250
But I just watched that five minutes. So we're

00:40:11.250 --> 00:40:12.789
skipping ahead going, oh, maybe it's just another

00:40:12.789 --> 00:40:15.489
perspective. Maybe like it's going to cut to

00:40:15.489 --> 00:40:17.369
another perspective of what was happening of

00:40:17.369 --> 00:40:19.010
the other people at the time that this was happening.

00:40:19.090 --> 00:40:20.130
And they're just giving you a little reminder.

00:40:20.210 --> 00:40:23.530
Nope. Just verbatim. They just copied and pasted.

00:40:23.980 --> 00:40:26.820
Yes. Which was very odd. Unless something went

00:40:26.820 --> 00:40:30.460
wrong with our Netflix. I don't think so. Then

00:40:30.460 --> 00:40:32.199
there's something where maybe someone can tell

00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:35.360
me who's watched it. Anyway, so the three games.

00:40:36.300 --> 00:40:40.400
So playing these three games, I also streamed

00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.300
them. Yeah. On Twitch. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes,

00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:47.579
yes. So for those who haven't noticed, Tom and

00:40:47.579 --> 00:40:50.690
I do have a YouTube channel. which is called

00:40:50.690 --> 00:40:52.889
Tom and Rob in the Studio. Yep, just put all

00:40:52.889 --> 00:40:54.949
those words in one long string and you'll find

00:40:54.949 --> 00:40:57.809
us. You'll find the kind of skits we've made

00:40:57.809 --> 00:40:59.769
and a lot of Tom's kind of reviews are on there.

00:40:59.809 --> 00:41:04.050
Some other bits Tom's done mainly. But it's also,

00:41:04.190 --> 00:41:06.809
so the streams I did were on Twitch, but that

00:41:06.809 --> 00:41:08.949
was only because I was doing on the Xbox the

00:41:08.949 --> 00:41:10.829
first one and that's what's integrated with it.

00:41:10.969 --> 00:41:14.570
And then I was testing on the computer. So you'll

00:41:14.570 --> 00:41:16.670
see two VODs up on the show. If you're interested

00:41:16.670 --> 00:41:18.570
to go watch me play, it's about two hours worth

00:41:18.570 --> 00:41:22.159
of footage. You can tell I'm testing because

00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.300
the audio level is not right, particularly in

00:41:24.300 --> 00:41:27.280
the first one. It's very quiet. But you've worked

00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.260
it out. I've worked it out now, so the second

00:41:29.260 --> 00:41:31.300
one was a bit better. You can hear me talking

00:41:31.300 --> 00:41:34.059
and texting Tom whilst I'm doing it, setting

00:41:34.059 --> 00:41:36.820
the webcam up, getting the audio levels right.

00:41:36.900 --> 00:41:38.420
Yeah, discovering that you need light to make

00:41:38.420 --> 00:41:39.840
a webcam work well. Discovering that I have to

00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:41.980
turn the light on in the room. You know, the

00:41:41.980 --> 00:41:44.340
normal things you expect from me when I'm in

00:41:44.340 --> 00:41:48.639
charge of the IT that go wrong. And the three

00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:53.860
games. So, Total Chaos, Routine, and Marvel Cosmic

00:41:53.860 --> 00:41:55.539
Invasion. We'll go with Marvel Cosmic Invasion

00:41:55.539 --> 00:41:57.840
first. So that is a side -scrolling beat -em

00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.599
-up, like Streets of Rage, but you're playing

00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:03.199
the Marvel characters. Nice. And there's lots

00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:06.400
of them. You pick two characters each. You can

00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.659
have four players, so technically eight characters.

00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:12.239
Wow, okay. You swap between them, you fight with

00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.219
one, and then you can press a shoulder button

00:42:14.219 --> 00:42:16.239
and a move, and the other one will jump in and

00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.440
do their move, or you can straight -up swap into

00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:21.420
them. And you've got characters like Spider -Man.

00:42:21.460 --> 00:42:25.019
You can unlock like Venom. You've got Iron Man,

00:42:25.139 --> 00:42:26.719
Captain America. You've got some other characters

00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:28.320
I'm not familiar with. There's like a dinosaur

00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.340
-looking Thor. I'm sure people know who he is

00:42:31.340 --> 00:42:33.440
who are into Marvel more than I am. I don't know

00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.639
who he was. Some other weird characters, but

00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.460
classic characters are there. Black Panther's

00:42:39.460 --> 00:42:43.719
there. Wolverine's there. Phoenix is a character

00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:47.079
in there. Loads of characters. Anyway, it's so

00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:49.719
much fun. And it's actually quite forgiving as

00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:51.800
well. Like it's not particularly hard. I've been

00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:53.360
playing with T. We've been playing it in the

00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:55.119
mornings and then Miranda was joining as well.

00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.139
So all three of us were playing. Oh, that's cool.

00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:58.820
So much fun. There's also, you can change the

00:42:58.820 --> 00:43:01.139
color. So T's like, oh, I'm going to be red venom

00:43:01.139 --> 00:43:04.320
and I'm going to be black spider man. He's having

00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:06.559
a great time and he goes on about it for ages

00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:09.000
afterwards. And he was like. When he went and

00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:10.860
saw my brother -in -law the weekend, he's like

00:43:10.860 --> 00:43:12.719
going on about it to him and pretending to fight

00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:14.440
and go, I was Venom and I was doing this. He's

00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.960
whacking Dan. Which Dan really likes because

00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.760
he's really into Marvel too. So that's been a

00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.719
lot of fun. What a great game. There's no blood

00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.320
or gore in it. I don't know if it has a rating

00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:27.579
or not. It's just comic book violence. Yeah.

00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:29.699
You know, it's no worse than if you'd watched

00:43:29.699 --> 00:43:31.480
X -Men like we did back in the day or Spider

00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:32.639
-Man back in the day. Which is, by the way, all

00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.639
on Disney and they're making a new series that's

00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.280
going to look exactly like the one that we used

00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:38.000
to watch. They've already done it for X -Men.

00:43:38.300 --> 00:43:39.420
Have they? They've already done it. It's out

00:43:39.420 --> 00:43:41.500
already. It's been out for like a year. Oh, there's

00:43:41.500 --> 00:43:42.739
another season coming then. And it's brilliant.

00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:45.360
Bits of it I've seen. But I loved re -watching

00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.679
the original. Yeah. It was so good. The intro

00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:49.130
is like... We used to talk about this before

00:43:49.130 --> 00:43:52.849
the intro. It's one of the best intros to TV

00:43:52.849 --> 00:43:55.170
shows. But Marvel Cosmic Invasion, recommend

00:43:55.170 --> 00:43:58.429
anybody who's got Game Pass. Or even just do

00:43:58.429 --> 00:44:00.429
a free couple of weeks of it that they offer

00:44:00.429 --> 00:44:02.730
you nowadays over Christmas. If you've got kids,

00:44:02.769 --> 00:44:06.050
play it with your kids. Really good fun. Really

00:44:06.050 --> 00:44:12.449
enjoyed it. Next one, Routine. So Routine, it's

00:44:12.449 --> 00:44:16.380
like an 80s version of the future. yes so it

00:44:16.380 --> 00:44:20.260
looks alien -esque which i really liked and it

00:44:20.260 --> 00:44:23.599
has this wonderful film grain on it too did you

00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:25.480
watch me play this i've watched a little bit

00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:27.820
of it and i've funnily enough literally i think

00:44:27.820 --> 00:44:29.760
it was tech radar one of the sites i kind of

00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.539
look at every day had a clip of it as well and

00:44:32.539 --> 00:44:33.739
that's the one that you've got the little weird

00:44:33.739 --> 00:44:37.159
yeah so you're you're a man on the moon on some

00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.219
kind of kind of uh public kind of space anything

00:44:40.219 --> 00:44:42.880
on the moon you wake up And the whole place is

00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:44.800
a bit ransacked and ruined. It doesn't really

00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:46.760
tell you what's happening. It doesn't really

00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:48.699
tell you anything. As you'll find out as we talk

00:44:48.699 --> 00:44:51.239
about it, you are welcoming your room, you have

00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:53.019
to get out of your room. And you go up to the

00:44:53.019 --> 00:44:54.480
door, can't open the door, you need your ID.

00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:57.579
There's a sign on the door that says you need

00:44:57.579 --> 00:45:00.320
to be wearing your ID or you will not get out.

00:45:00.860 --> 00:45:03.719
That's it. Okay, well, how do I get my ID? You're

00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.000
now looking around your room and there's an ID

00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.739
printing interface. So then you have to go through

00:45:08.739 --> 00:45:11.000
the steps that it tells you on how to print your

00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.780
ID. Oh God. So you kind of have to figure it

00:45:13.780 --> 00:45:16.079
out. It's all context clues and little things

00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:18.440
around the place, environmental clues for you

00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:20.860
to know. And it teaches you, like you can kind

00:45:20.860 --> 00:45:23.119
of crouch and then kneel right down and lean

00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:25.460
and stuff like on the ground. And I remember

00:45:25.460 --> 00:45:27.340
saying it while I was playing, it was like, I'm

00:45:27.340 --> 00:45:28.860
not going to remember these buttons. And then

00:45:28.860 --> 00:45:30.960
you finally print your ID, you drop it and it

00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:33.199
goes underneath a skirting board. So you've got

00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:35.320
to get all the way down, look under, lean and

00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:38.860
grab hold of it. I would say then, and I will

00:45:38.860 --> 00:45:43.679
Google this very, very quickly. Sounds like Routine

00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.940
took a lot of inspiration from a game called

00:45:47.940 --> 00:45:53.539
Bioforge. Was it Bioforge? Yeah, Bioforge. Not

00:45:53.539 --> 00:45:57.840
sure. And I remember it wasn't the first system,

00:45:57.860 --> 00:45:59.880
Sean. I'm pretty sure it was Bioforge. And you

00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:02.239
wake up in your cell. You've been mutilated and

00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:07.260
turned into this half -cyborg thing. And that

00:46:07.260 --> 00:46:09.019
is, yeah, you find your past to get out of the

00:46:09.019 --> 00:46:11.739
prison room. There's one point you find a flute

00:46:11.739 --> 00:46:14.159
and it's like, what the fuck do I do with the

00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:15.940
flute? And then later on, you've got to play

00:46:15.940 --> 00:46:20.739
the flute to open a door because it's the right

00:46:20.739 --> 00:46:24.860
notes match the sound of the keypad and whatever

00:46:24.860 --> 00:46:27.360
big keypads destroy. It's really, really, yeah,

00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.239
there's a lot to it and it sounds very similar.

00:46:31.820 --> 00:46:36.260
Yeah, it's, I think I'm just an idiot. I think

00:46:36.260 --> 00:46:39.059
I'd like to, I've been told where I got stuck.

00:46:39.099 --> 00:46:41.420
Now, James has kindly told me what I was doing

00:46:41.420 --> 00:46:44.639
wrong. You kind of, eventually you get into this

00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:46.820
room because you're like a new employee. So you

00:46:46.820 --> 00:46:48.679
haven't done the training and then there's like

00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:50.719
a projector screen and you click through it and

00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:52.659
it tells you how to use this weapon. So you pick

00:46:52.659 --> 00:46:54.599
it up and then you've got to go and find a battery.

00:46:55.099 --> 00:46:57.380
And it's telling you, you then look to change

00:46:57.380 --> 00:46:59.840
the way your gun works. You actually have to

00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:02.309
inspect it and then. Click on the buttons on

00:47:02.309 --> 00:47:04.989
the side to change its modes. Really cool. Very

00:47:04.989 --> 00:47:08.829
immersive. And then I got stuck. I did not know

00:47:08.829 --> 00:47:11.070
what to do. And I walked around between five

00:47:11.070 --> 00:47:13.210
and 10 minutes in and out the room, walking around.

00:47:13.690 --> 00:47:17.849
I had no fucking clue what to do. I knew there

00:47:17.849 --> 00:47:19.530
was a door I needed to get through because it's

00:47:19.530 --> 00:47:21.010
the only thing I can interact with. And it had

00:47:21.010 --> 00:47:23.849
a code. And I was like, have I missed somewhere

00:47:23.849 --> 00:47:26.630
with this code written down? Never found it and

00:47:26.630 --> 00:47:29.090
then gave up. right james has since told me i'm

00:47:29.090 --> 00:47:30.909
supposed to go back to the screen now i knew

00:47:30.909 --> 00:47:33.070
how to press the buttons and press the button

00:47:33.070 --> 00:47:35.929
for this wi -fi mode and that would have moved

00:47:35.929 --> 00:47:39.829
the projector to the next stage oh i don't think

00:47:39.829 --> 00:47:42.849
that was clear enough but i'm going to play it

00:47:42.849 --> 00:47:46.090
again now i know and see how i missed that fine

00:47:46.090 --> 00:47:49.929
gotcha yeah um yeah it sounds like maybe it could

00:47:49.929 --> 00:47:53.250
be an overly complicated if you're in the wrong

00:47:53.250 --> 00:47:56.480
kind of headspace for it Yeah, maybe I just,

00:47:56.559 --> 00:47:58.539
you know, because I was too busy focusing on

00:47:58.539 --> 00:47:59.679
other things, maybe I'm going to give myself

00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.059
the benefit of doubt. As the clip I saw, it looked

00:48:02.059 --> 00:48:05.340
like you'd got almost like those cheap IR kind

00:48:05.340 --> 00:48:07.239
of thermometer guns. Yeah, it looks like what

00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:08.960
you're holding. It can shoot as well. You can

00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:10.239
fire three bullets and your battery runs out.

00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:12.780
And the clip just saw a new horror sci -fi game.

00:48:12.900 --> 00:48:14.900
So for me, it was labeled as a horror game. No,

00:48:14.900 --> 00:48:17.559
it is a horror. And yeah, it would look just

00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:19.739
lifelike and this robot was charging towards

00:48:19.739 --> 00:48:22.539
someone that they zapped twice to stop them from

00:48:22.539 --> 00:48:24.980
working. The thing is as well, like you... You

00:48:24.980 --> 00:48:27.500
can fire it three times and you run out of battery.

00:48:27.699 --> 00:48:30.599
You can't hold batteries. You have to then go

00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.179
and find a battery, replace the battery, and

00:48:33.179 --> 00:48:34.380
then you've got three. So you can't have like

00:48:34.380 --> 00:48:36.840
a stash of batteries to reload it. Have you not

00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.000
got pockets in the future? Apparently this guy

00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:40.400
didn't have pockets. At least at that beginning

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:41.940
bit he didn't have a pocket because there was

00:48:41.940 --> 00:48:43.400
multiple batteries and wouldn't let me say more

00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:46.059
than one, which was, I think, a bit annoying.

00:48:46.219 --> 00:48:48.900
And the last one, which I was enjoying the most,

00:48:49.139 --> 00:48:52.489
Total Chaos. that's what it's called this is

00:48:52.489 --> 00:48:55.989
the one that i saw you watch me more of and yeah

00:48:55.989 --> 00:48:59.829
apparently it originally total chaos was a mod

00:48:59.829 --> 00:49:04.349
for doom 2 oh really it's the same kind of they're

00:49:04.349 --> 00:49:06.690
the same guys or they've taken that and now it's

00:49:06.690 --> 00:49:10.469
its own thing so i mean i've completed it so

00:49:10.469 --> 00:49:11.769
i don't really i didn't really need to play i

00:49:11.769 --> 00:49:13.570
completed it within five minutes so this is my

00:49:13.570 --> 00:49:16.639
second playthrough oh okay Oh, this is what you

00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:19.239
were saying, yeah. That's my silly joke to myself.

00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:20.940
You can get in the boat and just sail away and

00:49:20.940 --> 00:49:22.860
it says, well done, you escaped. Yeah, so the

00:49:22.860 --> 00:49:25.860
intro is you crash your boat and then it says,

00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:29.800
oh, your boat's all repaired now. Yeah. But during

00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:31.739
the intro, there's a voice telling you to come

00:49:31.739 --> 00:49:34.920
find him. So, again, this probably hasn't taken

00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:36.800
inspiration from it, but have you ever heard

00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:44.420
of something called myhouse .wad? No. So, I won't

00:49:44.420 --> 00:49:47.179
bore you too much. The technical limitations

00:49:47.179 --> 00:49:52.539
of Doom were you could not have a level upon

00:49:52.539 --> 00:49:55.360
a level. So you couldn't go under something in

00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.880
Doom. So Doom is a very clever game because you

00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:59.679
feel like you do go through tunnels and things.

00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:02.280
But if you look at the map, not once does a map

00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.679
go over itself or under itself. It just isn't

00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:10.219
possible. Myhouse .wad was developed by very,

00:50:10.420 --> 00:50:14.880
very, very clever people. And at the first kind

00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:18.800
of... play through you can just leave the game

00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:20.960
it's just this house it's like someone's made

00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.719
i think i have seen this yeah and you can just

00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:25.920
leave and it's like complete but then when you

00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:28.059
start looking more there's these weird things

00:50:28.059 --> 00:50:30.239
like you look through a window and you can see

00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:32.280
something but when you go in the house it's not

00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:34.219
there but that's technically not possible in

00:50:34.219 --> 00:50:36.840
the doom engine and it starts getting deeper

00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:39.840
and deeper and there's so much in it and it's

00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:41.380
really it's something actually we probably should

00:50:41.380 --> 00:50:43.489
play through it's really creepy There's a cat

00:50:43.489 --> 00:50:46.409
on an iPad. There's a cat on an iPad. Elf on

00:50:46.409 --> 00:50:50.210
the shelf, cat on an iPad. Oh, dear. Drink in

00:50:50.210 --> 00:50:53.409
a sink. Yeah, I think I have seen someone play

00:50:53.409 --> 00:50:55.650
that. It is literally someone's house, isn't

00:50:55.650 --> 00:50:58.789
it? Yeah, it's quite creepy. But what it is,

00:50:58.909 --> 00:51:01.369
very, very clever. But what you were saying is

00:51:01.369 --> 00:51:03.929
what reminded me of that. You can literally quit

00:51:03.929 --> 00:51:07.099
at the very beginning and leave. or if you start

00:51:07.099 --> 00:51:09.119
digging around you start finding more and more

00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:11.460
things that then there's a few far cries that

00:51:11.460 --> 00:51:14.059
you can do that like was one we start in a cell

00:51:14.059 --> 00:51:18.460
and the game is like saying to you to escape

00:51:18.460 --> 00:51:20.780
the cell but if you listen to the bad guy he

00:51:20.780 --> 00:51:22.800
says literally just just wait there when my boss

00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:26.239
comes he'll speak to you you can go pretty much

00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:28.320
and you wait and if you wait it's something like

00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.260
10 minutes the boss arrives is that the one where

00:51:31.260 --> 00:51:33.059
he's looking for his brother or something yeah

00:51:33.059 --> 00:51:35.079
the boss arrives and you can just agree with

00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:36.960
the boss and you can leave and that's the end

00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.380
that's it i think there's another one you can

00:51:39.380 --> 00:51:41.159
just turn around and walk off and it's the end

00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.059
which i always actually really thought was quite

00:51:44.059 --> 00:51:46.219
good you could just do that and that's the thing

00:51:46.219 --> 00:51:48.260
about this thing is as well you start with your

00:51:48.260 --> 00:51:50.989
back to the castle So you're facing your boat

00:51:50.989 --> 00:51:53.570
at the end of your dock and literally the text

00:51:53.570 --> 00:51:55.409
on the bottom says, your boat is repaired, you

00:51:55.409 --> 00:51:58.230
can leave the island. So I went, okay. And I

00:51:58.230 --> 00:52:00.150
went on the boat, got in it and I drove off.

00:52:00.230 --> 00:52:01.909
I was like, okay, we must be going somewhere

00:52:01.909 --> 00:52:04.130
then. And then the credits rolled and I got an

00:52:04.130 --> 00:52:06.309
achievement for completing the game. I was like,

00:52:06.389 --> 00:52:08.269
okay, and it puts you back to the start again.

00:52:08.630 --> 00:52:11.070
But I did wonder why at the very beginning on

00:52:11.070 --> 00:52:14.510
the title screen, it has start game and then

00:52:14.510 --> 00:52:17.230
the one below is start game, skip prologue. So

00:52:17.230 --> 00:52:18.789
clearly they're like, people are going to come

00:52:18.789 --> 00:52:20.389
back here. Now you can do that. And it just puts

00:52:20.389 --> 00:52:21.889
you straight back on the deck. Brilliant. Okay,

00:52:22.110 --> 00:52:24.050
cool. So you turn around and then have to walk

00:52:24.050 --> 00:52:33.949
in. Yeah, so it's very much like Cthulhu. It

00:52:33.949 --> 00:52:36.789
was H .D. Well, is that what I'm thinking of?

00:52:37.210 --> 00:52:40.949
Hang on. Thank you, H .P. Lovecraft. Thank you,

00:52:40.969 --> 00:52:42.469
you said that off. That was Tom who got that

00:52:42.469 --> 00:52:45.170
right, everybody. Yeah, H .P. Lovecraft. In my

00:52:45.170 --> 00:52:48.550
opinion, that's how it feels. I'm utterly terrified

00:52:48.550 --> 00:52:53.349
at every single step. My critique is too dark.

00:52:54.070 --> 00:52:56.550
Yes, I saw you banging the brightness up to 100

00:52:56.550 --> 00:52:58.469
and even then. I have the in -game brightness

00:52:58.469 --> 00:53:02.269
set to max and I still couldn't see. I think

00:53:02.269 --> 00:53:04.730
actually they have just textured stuff black

00:53:04.730 --> 00:53:07.969
because there are corners of corridors that if

00:53:07.969 --> 00:53:10.130
I've got the game rendered at its full brightness

00:53:10.130 --> 00:53:13.280
and I can't see in that. No, that's on purpose.

00:53:13.539 --> 00:53:15.900
That's not your light level. You've done a texture

00:53:15.900 --> 00:53:18.599
dark so people can't make it lighter. And I think

00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:20.300
it's annoying as well for when I was streaming

00:53:20.300 --> 00:53:23.239
it, I don't think. you can see as much see which

00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:25.219
is a shame but yeah watch the streams you'll

00:53:25.219 --> 00:53:27.420
see me on two occasions scream like a little

00:53:27.420 --> 00:53:30.420
girl yeah well we've always said as well haven't

00:53:30.420 --> 00:53:32.820
we that we we plan on doing alien isolation which

00:53:32.820 --> 00:53:35.639
neither of us have ever completed i can't get

00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:37.400
very far in that game at all even now i'm scared

00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.699
of it uh i get past the android bit where the

00:53:40.699 --> 00:53:43.360
androids are after you and then i get to the

00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:45.739
main bit where you kind of this figure of eight

00:53:45.739 --> 00:53:48.199
section and the alien is on this figure of eight

00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:51.380
path And every time I just end up hiding and

00:53:51.380 --> 00:53:52.980
eventually it just going, yeah, you've hidden

00:53:52.980 --> 00:53:55.280
there too many times. Yeah. Just find you in

00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:56.760
the cupboard in like the locker or whatever.

00:53:56.860 --> 00:53:58.840
Yeah. No, I poo my pants too much and I can't

00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:01.199
play it. So I don't know how I'll be playing

00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:02.760
it with you. I would just have to let you play

00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:05.719
and I'll just close my eyes. It's such a wimp.

00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:07.920
I'm a wimp. Right. Anyway, that's what I've been

00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:09.780
doing. I've been talking nearly 25 minutes again.

00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:16.860
This is going to be a quick one. Accessing library

00:54:16.860 --> 00:54:20.320
computer data. so people might have yeah people

00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.139
might have noticed that this episode isn't called

00:54:22.139 --> 00:54:24.340
a fifth element so if they did notice the bonus

00:54:24.340 --> 00:54:26.199
i didn't realize what the date was i didn't realize

00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:28.300
anything wasn't paying much attention so this

00:54:28.300 --> 00:54:30.280
is like we're doing christmas one instead and

00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:31.940
the fifth element will be out on i think was

00:54:31.940 --> 00:54:34.219
it monday the 15th uh something like that like

00:54:34.219 --> 00:54:37.599
that we'll figure out the end uh yeah so as you

00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:39.980
said tom this is dr who a christmas invasion

00:54:40.829 --> 00:54:43.570
I didn't realise it was Tennant's first episode.

00:54:43.809 --> 00:54:45.929
It was Tennant's first episode. You're having

00:54:45.929 --> 00:54:48.829
a lovely cuddle from my pussy. I'm being bitten.

00:54:49.130 --> 00:54:51.050
Oh, is she? She must like it. Vagina dentata.

00:54:51.329 --> 00:54:53.050
Yeah, she definitely likes it if she's biting

00:54:53.050 --> 00:54:57.989
you. Yeah, it's an interesting Doctor Who episode

00:54:57.989 --> 00:55:00.369
because Doctor Who's not in it much. No. So,

00:55:00.429 --> 00:55:02.809
right, first of all, two things. Peter Griffin

00:55:02.809 --> 00:55:05.110
is absolutely losing his shit in this episode

00:55:05.110 --> 00:55:07.849
because within minutes we've got Jackie going...

00:55:08.380 --> 00:55:10.400
Doctor Who? They said the name of the show in

00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:13.420
the show? Yeah, they did. Yeah, they did. Yeah.

00:55:13.460 --> 00:55:16.539
So you've immediately got that. I also want to

00:55:16.539 --> 00:55:19.380
know where the golden Doctor Space Spunk disappeared

00:55:19.380 --> 00:55:21.719
off to. It just floated off into space out the

00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:24.000
window and that's gone somewhere. Well, that's

00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.500
how the monsters find them. No, it's not. No,

00:55:26.539 --> 00:55:28.320
that's why they come. No, they don't. They come

00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:30.460
because the probe bumps into them and they collect

00:55:30.460 --> 00:55:35.920
the probe. No, but they sense his... He says

00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:38.519
it in the episode. Oh, did he? Yeah, because

00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:40.920
they've come for him. That's why they're chasing

00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:42.380
the... I thought they came to work because they

00:55:42.380 --> 00:55:44.420
bump into that probe and then steal the probe.

00:55:44.579 --> 00:55:47.519
No, they use the probe's stuff, but they're there

00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:51.000
because of the energy. I would say it's not a

00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:54.019
very good episode. It's fun. It's a weird one.

00:55:54.260 --> 00:55:58.820
It's Tennant being Tennant as the Doctor, and

00:55:58.820 --> 00:56:02.739
that side's fine. I wouldn't say it's his greatest

00:56:02.739 --> 00:56:07.550
effort. And yeah, you're right. The large portion

00:56:07.550 --> 00:56:12.849
of the episode is no Doctor. Yeah. So for those

00:56:12.849 --> 00:56:15.150
of you that haven't seen it, it's the first Christmas

00:56:15.150 --> 00:56:16.949
special. They've just got rid of Eccleston, which

00:56:16.949 --> 00:56:20.869
was a ridiculous choice. Billy has come home

00:56:20.869 --> 00:56:23.730
for Christmas, and Billy has a problem. The Doctor

00:56:23.730 --> 00:56:29.349
has changed. And she drags him in. He's regenerating.

00:56:29.349 --> 00:56:33.389
He's now unconscious. So she goes shopping with

00:56:33.389 --> 00:56:36.429
Mickey. Yeah. That was a weird thing because,

00:56:36.429 --> 00:56:39.730
like, obviously we haven't recapped season one,

00:56:39.849 --> 00:56:45.369
but the Mickey part of it was like, what a weird

00:56:45.369 --> 00:56:48.269
guy. Like, he's completely fine. Well, obviously

00:56:48.269 --> 00:56:50.809
he's not fine with his boyfriend, girlfriend,

00:56:51.030 --> 00:56:53.110
I'm assuming. Yeah, they're meant to be girlfriend,

00:56:53.110 --> 00:56:56.789
boyfriend relationships. I don't think Rose thinks

00:56:56.789 --> 00:56:59.409
that. No, God, no. She's after the Doctor in

00:56:59.409 --> 00:57:02.050
whatever form. Yeah, she's like, yeah, nice new

00:57:02.050 --> 00:57:04.230
Doctor. Thanks a lot, mate. David Ten Inch, as

00:57:04.230 --> 00:57:07.250
she apparently called him in real life. It's,

00:57:07.250 --> 00:57:11.610
yeah, a weird relationship that they had. It's,

00:57:11.610 --> 00:57:13.730
I, you know, you're saying it's not a very good

00:57:13.730 --> 00:57:15.769
episode, but I did still enjoy it. Oh, no, I

00:57:15.769 --> 00:57:18.530
enjoyed it, but it's not good in comparison to

00:57:18.530 --> 00:57:20.510
some of the episodes that we then get immediately

00:57:20.510 --> 00:57:24.820
after. Yeah, the CGI particularly was. ropey

00:57:24.820 --> 00:57:27.199
oh my god the entire literally watching i thought

00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.420
have i just got a bad internet connection here

00:57:29.420 --> 00:57:31.619
because my entire screen it starts off with black

00:57:31.619 --> 00:57:35.519
just full of stars and you'll know what i'm talking

00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.579
about literally my screen was just full of hundreds

00:57:38.579 --> 00:57:43.019
of little squares because it can't do black properly

00:57:43.019 --> 00:57:45.420
because of the resolution and the bit rate of

00:57:45.420 --> 00:57:47.539
the stream that the bbc are giving us i know

00:57:47.539 --> 00:57:50.039
why didn't they why haven't they phd'd it it

00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.400
looked awful it looked terrible it looks standard

00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:56.269
definition on HD, which is problematic. It looked

00:57:56.269 --> 00:58:01.230
bad. I don't remember it looking that bad. 2005,

00:58:01.230 --> 00:58:06.210
remember. But still, it looked rubbish. No, I

00:58:06.210 --> 00:58:08.349
agree. I'm not disagreeing with you. I was watching

00:58:08.349 --> 00:58:10.489
it on the computer, so it wasn't like I was watching

00:58:10.489 --> 00:58:14.289
it on my massive TV. I was watching it on the

00:58:14.289 --> 00:58:18.199
big telly. Yeah. But yeah, they go shopping.

00:58:19.579 --> 00:58:22.500
They get called back to the home. Spaceship arrives.

00:58:23.699 --> 00:58:26.300
Takes control of everyone that's got A blood.

00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:29.059
Yeah, I'm in trouble. I'm pretty sure I'm A positive.

00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:32.559
Yeah, you're screwed. Christmas tree attacks.

00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:35.599
Beyblade Christmas tree, I was calling it. Nice,

00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:39.260
nice. I like that. Eventually, they all go up.

00:58:39.340 --> 00:58:43.579
She tries to use some of the stolen words. Then

00:58:43.579 --> 00:58:46.320
the doctor wakes up. Yeah. And then he just had

00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:47.920
a little bit of a sword fight and then... There's

00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:49.659
his tenant stuff. Gets his hand cut off. And

00:58:49.659 --> 00:58:52.840
yeah, then end of episode. God, there's not really

00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:55.099
much to talk about it for it. He's there. It's

00:58:55.099 --> 00:58:56.900
an interesting thing. The hand getting cut off.

00:58:57.019 --> 00:59:01.480
I forgot it was in that episode. And I think

00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:03.960
that it was just a bit that they did. But the

00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.219
hand comes back on two more occasions. It turns

00:59:06.219 --> 00:59:08.340
up a couple of times. So this is season two.

00:59:08.500 --> 00:59:10.039
Yeah. I think we're calling it. It comes back

00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:13.190
in season three. Jack Harkness gives it in back.

00:59:13.369 --> 00:59:15.730
Yes. Somehow Captain Jack's got it. And then

00:59:15.730 --> 00:59:17.250
I've actually found it on here. It comes back

00:59:17.250 --> 00:59:20.010
in the finale of season four because they use

00:59:20.010 --> 00:59:22.090
it. They use the rejuvenation of it on Donna

00:59:22.090 --> 00:59:24.210
Noble. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Right.

00:59:26.230 --> 00:59:27.889
Really good point that you actually brought up

00:59:27.889 --> 00:59:31.650
there. We get mentioned a Torchwood. Yes. Torchwood,

00:59:31.730 --> 00:59:35.030
very underrated series. Oh, I absolutely love

00:59:35.030 --> 00:59:37.269
Torchwood. Same. I've kept the DVD box set for

00:59:37.269 --> 00:59:39.500
it. But this is the London faction of Torchwood,

00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:40.940
not the Wales faction of Torchwood. The Wales

00:59:40.940 --> 00:59:44.440
one, not the Valleys. But either way, the idea

00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:46.099
of Torchwood was brilliant. The show was really

00:59:46.099 --> 00:59:48.539
good. So we get mention of that. But it gets

00:59:48.539 --> 00:59:52.079
introduced in that season. Yeah. It gets created

00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:55.079
by Queen Victoria. So you see at the end of the

00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:56.719
credits, you see the episode, you see her in

00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:58.239
the... I think there's werewolves in that episode.

00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.619
Yes, yes. That's the one that she creates, Torchwood.

01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:07.630
But I will put it to you then. Even the Christopher

01:00:07.630 --> 01:00:10.949
Eccleston Christmas special was better than this

01:00:10.949 --> 01:00:14.489
one, which was the one all the plastic people

01:00:14.489 --> 01:00:16.769
and the mannequins coming to life. Oh, yeah,

01:00:16.809 --> 01:00:18.510
because mannequins are scary like that. It's

01:00:18.510 --> 01:00:21.710
really, really good. It's based at Christmas

01:00:21.710 --> 01:00:25.070
and it's the big jelly monster next to the Thames

01:00:25.070 --> 01:00:27.829
or whatever it is, isn't it? I think it's the

01:00:27.829 --> 01:00:30.630
first episode, isn't it? It's the first episode

01:00:30.630 --> 01:00:33.369
of the Eccleston series because he bumps into

01:00:33.369 --> 01:00:36.969
Billy. Is she getting a job interview or something

01:00:36.969 --> 01:00:38.650
at the department store? Yeah, I think you're

01:00:38.650 --> 01:00:44.070
right, yeah. But it felt more Christmassy. It

01:00:44.070 --> 01:00:47.230
was a better bad guy in it. And the bad guy in

01:00:47.230 --> 01:00:52.250
it's the, I want to say Celerac, but it's Celerac.

01:00:52.829 --> 01:00:54.210
It's the Celerac, isn't it? Something like that,

01:00:54.269 --> 01:00:56.090
yeah, yeah, something like that. It's just not

01:00:56.090 --> 01:01:01.809
that good. The design, quite fun. Yeah, I did

01:01:01.809 --> 01:01:05.480
write their name down. and the fun of the outfit

01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:07.480
the fun of the design of the design of the um

01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:11.960
psy sycorax sycorax sorry that was it um the

01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:14.920
design was pretty good but they were just a really

01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:18.960
they just turn up and they literally the focus

01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:21.380
of them is the last 10 minutes of the episode

01:01:21.380 --> 01:01:23.860
where david tennant wakes up we don't really

01:01:23.860 --> 01:01:26.960
get anything else from them we get the tv broadcast

01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:30.320
which is a couple of seconds and it's so a not

01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:33.260
in hd and b that they put on so much static on

01:01:33.260 --> 01:01:35.440
the tv you can't see what they are anyway so

01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:38.480
it's kind of what's the point of doing this um

01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:43.280
oh and apparently yeah uh they rock what the

01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:45.960
hell was that about that joke i did i didn't

01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:49.639
get that joke yeah why would you i guess the

01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:51.340
joke is meant to be that the translation's crap

01:01:51.869 --> 01:01:53.969
Or that they literally thought it would be funny

01:01:53.969 --> 01:01:56.989
to say, yeah, they rock. It's the thing that

01:01:56.989 --> 01:01:59.510
happens that you have to look past in every single

01:01:59.510 --> 01:02:01.110
episode of Doctor Who. They have to progress

01:02:01.110 --> 01:02:05.150
the story. So the guy who translates it within

01:02:05.150 --> 01:02:09.150
two seconds, I found that ridiculous. But I get

01:02:09.150 --> 01:02:11.150
it. Again, you've got to progress the story.

01:02:11.329 --> 01:02:14.050
All the little things. One thing that I didn't

01:02:14.050 --> 01:02:16.349
actually like was the guy who was the scientist

01:02:16.349 --> 01:02:19.739
who kept getting interviewed. okay, yeah, this

01:02:19.739 --> 01:02:21.619
thing's going to be taking pictures of Mars.

01:02:22.179 --> 01:02:24.739
Yeah. And then rushing off all the time. I don't

01:02:24.739 --> 01:02:26.599
think it'd be running in and out. You'd just

01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:30.900
hear after the fact. Yes. Like, it's really not...

01:02:30.900 --> 01:02:34.980
Pictures of Mars are brilliant, but at the same

01:02:34.980 --> 01:02:36.639
time, it wouldn't have all the news outlets there

01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:38.760
hounding him for why they haven't got the photos

01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:41.099
yet. Give me the photo, I can't believe it. You

01:02:41.099 --> 01:02:43.880
know. Exactly. That was just a bit silly. They

01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:46.940
didn't need that at all. You know. But would

01:02:46.940 --> 01:02:50.610
it be, or... Is it possibly because, and this

01:02:50.610 --> 01:02:54.250
is me being a bit geeky here, the world has got

01:02:54.250 --> 01:02:57.349
border space. And in fact, the Simpsons even

01:02:57.349 --> 01:02:59.010
joke about it, don't they, when they make Homer

01:02:59.010 --> 01:03:01.030
an astronaut. We're going to try and get the

01:03:01.030 --> 01:03:03.809
TV figures up by just sending up Joe blogs into

01:03:03.809 --> 01:03:08.869
space. Has the press become more interested in

01:03:08.869 --> 01:03:11.690
space and taking pictures of Mars? Because the

01:03:11.690 --> 01:03:13.289
previous season of Doctor Who and the number

01:03:13.289 --> 01:03:15.010
of things that have now happened on Earth, including

01:03:15.010 --> 01:03:18.469
Daleks. Are they now, have you found something?

01:03:18.570 --> 01:03:20.369
Have you found, started to find where these things

01:03:20.369 --> 01:03:22.070
are starting to come from? Why is this now more

01:03:22.070 --> 01:03:24.190
happening? Have you found something? So maybe

01:03:24.190 --> 01:03:26.269
there is more of an interest in space and the

01:03:26.269 --> 01:03:29.590
other bits and pieces because of the things that

01:03:29.590 --> 01:03:32.969
have happened in the previous series. Yeah. But

01:03:32.969 --> 01:03:34.809
then that gets immediately shot down because

01:03:34.809 --> 01:03:37.650
then we get Harriet, whatever her name is, as

01:03:37.650 --> 01:03:40.150
Prime Minister saying, oh no, everything's secure

01:03:40.150 --> 01:03:41.949
and everything's secret, so no, you can't possibly

01:03:41.949 --> 01:03:44.190
know about any of that. So okay, so the world

01:03:44.190 --> 01:03:49.400
doesn't know about that. yeah i don't know i

01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:56.480
just like for a doctor who episode with a new

01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:59.360
doctor so the first ever regeneration of the

01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:03.400
new doctors yeah for him to only be really in

01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:06.000
it for the last 10 minutes wasn't the right call

01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:10.480
in my opinion no and think about i think they

01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:12.969
learned their lesson For that. Because they keep

01:04:12.969 --> 01:04:16.710
fucking bringing him back. No. Ignoring that.

01:04:18.489 --> 01:04:21.949
They do this for Tennant. And I think you're

01:04:21.949 --> 01:04:23.869
right. It was a really bad way to bring him in.

01:04:23.909 --> 01:04:28.389
Especially at how strong a doctor he was. Look

01:04:28.389 --> 01:04:30.929
how they then brought Matt Smith in after him.

01:04:31.789 --> 01:04:33.250
I've got to have custard. I've got to have the

01:04:33.250 --> 01:04:35.829
fish finger. And they do that whole thing. And

01:04:35.829 --> 01:04:39.400
the whole Amy Pond being little and so on. that

01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:42.000
is wonderful he's just regenerated crash lands

01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.159
and he just raids her kitchen yeah eating random

01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:47.639
and that's brilliant it's comedy looking for

01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:51.179
fish things it's funny that was how it should

01:04:51.179 --> 01:04:52.719
have been done this is how this should have been

01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:54.920
done not he's unconscious he needs to have a

01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:57.219
nap yeah he's just unconscious and then needs

01:04:57.219 --> 01:05:00.099
a cup of tea how does he die at the end of the

01:05:00.099 --> 01:05:02.519
eccleston one that be regenerate i don't remember

01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:05.409
what happens Such a long time ago. Yeah, I actually

01:05:05.409 --> 01:05:07.070
can't remember how Eccleston died. I mean, I'll

01:05:07.070 --> 01:05:09.210
watch it again because, as I said before, Eccleston's

01:05:09.210 --> 01:05:11.309
pretty much my favourite one. I really like,

01:05:11.349 --> 01:05:14.289
I think he deserved so, so much more. Well, he

01:05:14.289 --> 01:05:16.329
only didn't do it anymore because of, he fell

01:05:16.329 --> 01:05:20.110
out with, what's his name, didn't he? Well, yes.

01:05:20.590 --> 01:05:22.309
That's why he said he wouldn't ever come back

01:05:22.309 --> 01:05:27.690
until that guy wasn't there anymore. True. But

01:05:27.690 --> 01:05:33.010
moving away from that, it's... Oh, let's have

01:05:33.010 --> 01:05:34.530
a look here. Final scene. Episode concluded.

01:05:36.190 --> 01:05:40.110
Oh, fuck's sake. Literally two fucking paragraphs

01:05:40.110 --> 01:05:42.989
of text saying he leaves, he leaves, he leaves.

01:05:43.050 --> 01:05:45.530
Not how he leaves, just it's called the parting

01:05:45.530 --> 01:05:50.530
of the ways is the episode. It's the bad wolf

01:05:50.530 --> 01:05:53.590
arc from the look of it. Was it the bad wolf

01:05:53.590 --> 01:05:56.489
arc? No, bad. What are you talking about with

01:05:56.489 --> 01:06:00.389
Eccleston? Yeah. Yeah. Bad wolf comes back. Oh,

01:06:00.389 --> 01:06:04.809
it's the Daleks, isn't it? Yeah. It's got Daleks

01:06:04.809 --> 01:06:09.550
in it. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. The mutant Dalek

01:06:09.550 --> 01:06:15.309
at the end. Blah, blah, blah. I honestly don't

01:06:15.309 --> 01:06:16.849
know if I can be bothered to read all of this.

01:06:16.989 --> 01:06:19.389
Oh, don't worry about it. But yeah, the Daleks

01:06:19.389 --> 01:06:21.289
kill him basically or whatever happens to take

01:06:21.289 --> 01:06:23.349
out the Daleks. But again, we get that brilliant

01:06:23.349 --> 01:06:26.510
Eccleston episode where he's underground in the

01:06:26.510 --> 01:06:29.250
rich bloke's bunker who's been collecting alien

01:06:29.250 --> 01:06:33.110
artifacts and you get the... the Dalek who just

01:06:33.110 --> 01:06:36.389
wants to see the outside again because Rose has

01:06:36.389 --> 01:06:38.630
touched it and the mutation has made it more

01:06:38.630 --> 01:06:41.690
human. Brilliant episode. And one of the strongest

01:06:41.690 --> 01:06:44.349
episodes out of all of the series. Out of all

01:06:44.349 --> 01:06:48.590
of them, that one. Yeah, it's funny, isn't it?

01:06:48.610 --> 01:06:52.170
We get a David Tennant episode, which really,

01:06:52.289 --> 01:06:57.289
2005, they got away with it. They've literally

01:06:57.289 --> 01:07:00.679
just rebooted Doctor Who. Tennant is, he's not

01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:03.480
a new name, but he's a popular name. And God

01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:06.760
doesn't he look young. Oh, yeah. He grew into

01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:10.159
his face. So they have literally won that battle.

01:07:10.219 --> 01:07:13.280
So they know people are going to come back. So

01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.500
they could probably get away with a ropey episode.

01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.739
Do you think if they reboot Doctor Who, didn't

01:07:18.739 --> 01:07:21.199
reboot it then, but rebooted it now and did that,

01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:23.699
would you get away with it? And I don't think

01:07:23.699 --> 01:07:27.260
you would. I think the expectation 20 years later

01:07:27.260 --> 01:07:30.000
would be. what the fuck have you done there?

01:07:30.500 --> 01:07:31.960
Ratings would have dropped massively. If they

01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:34.380
hadn't done any of those Doctor Who's at all,

01:07:34.420 --> 01:07:39.400
so from Eccleston, Tennant, Smith, fucking hell,

01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:42.059
what's the guy's name? Yeah, I was trying to

01:07:42.059 --> 01:07:43.940
think this earlier. Oh, the only other people,

01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:45.739
because he was a really good one too, and I can't

01:07:45.739 --> 01:07:47.179
remember his bloody name. I feel awful about

01:07:47.179 --> 01:07:51.260
now. If they hadn't done any of those. So we

01:07:51.260 --> 01:07:53.159
haven't got any of that nice nostalgia ourselves.

01:07:53.300 --> 01:07:54.940
I know that you watched the original stuff. I

01:07:54.940 --> 01:07:57.360
never did. You see, I used to enjoy watching

01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:59.800
the classic and I still do. Peter Capaldi. Peter

01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:02.960
Capaldi, which was actually a really good one.

01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:06.019
I hadn't done any of that. And then they said,

01:08:06.099 --> 01:08:07.820
oh, we're bringing back Doctor Who. Disney's

01:08:07.820 --> 01:08:11.000
bringing back Doctor Who. I would have no trust

01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.400
in it whatsoever. Disney's already dropped it.

01:08:15.420 --> 01:08:17.600
Have they? Yep. So who has it now then? No one.

01:08:17.869 --> 01:08:20.130
I don't know if it's gone back to the BBC, but

01:08:20.130 --> 01:08:22.810
Disney have said, yeah, we don't want to be part

01:08:22.810 --> 01:08:25.449
of it anymore. Well, Shooty quit, didn't he?

01:08:25.670 --> 01:08:29.210
He did. He wasn't actually quit. They did him

01:08:29.210 --> 01:08:32.390
dirty. They kept, he didn't, we've said it in

01:08:32.390 --> 01:08:34.130
the previous episodes and I'm not going to bang

01:08:34.130 --> 01:08:38.609
on about it. He was the crying doctor. There

01:08:38.609 --> 01:08:41.489
was no anger or power from him. And that wasn't

01:08:41.489 --> 01:08:43.590
his fault because he can portray it, trade that.

01:08:43.630 --> 01:08:46.920
He's a fantastic actor. He was not given that

01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:48.840
chance in this. He was just told, you've got

01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:50.779
to be an emotional wreck all the time. I did

01:08:50.779 --> 01:08:53.819
like his first series, though. I was on the show

01:08:53.819 --> 01:08:56.119
saying it. It's Jodie Whittaker, the one they

01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:58.340
did dirty. Oh, they did her very dirty. They

01:08:58.340 --> 01:09:00.840
did her dirty. The first female doctor, they

01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:03.720
screwed her over. I don't know if that was on

01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:06.859
purpose. They gave her shit episodes. Yeah, they

01:09:06.859 --> 01:09:09.100
basically just said, look, Jodie, your doctor

01:09:09.100 --> 01:09:11.180
is going to be the doctor of telling everyone

01:09:11.180 --> 01:09:14.310
how life should be. Oh, that was the problem.

01:09:14.569 --> 01:09:17.770
That's all it was. Lessons, life, social lessons.

01:09:18.409 --> 01:09:21.890
It's like, yeah, we get it. We get it. Shut up.

01:09:22.189 --> 01:09:24.689
This is not what we watch Doctor Who for. No.

01:09:24.689 --> 01:09:26.510
We want to see the Daleks. We want to see the

01:09:26.510 --> 01:09:30.310
Cybermen. We want to see absolute chaos and then

01:09:30.310 --> 01:09:32.409
the Doctor turn up and fix everything. Yeah,

01:09:32.430 --> 01:09:35.590
yeah. We don't need all these historical lessons

01:09:35.590 --> 01:09:38.949
and social commentaries. You can put them in

01:09:38.949 --> 01:09:42.439
way more subtly than you were. It doesn't have

01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:46.220
to be a social commentary per episode. No, no,

01:09:46.220 --> 01:09:48.239
no, no, no. It does not need that. And I think

01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:52.220
also, like with Chuty's one though, like they

01:09:52.220 --> 01:09:55.380
were chasing the bad wolf. They were chasing

01:09:55.380 --> 01:09:59.279
that very subtle that you don't actually notice

01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:01.140
that they're all linked together until it drops

01:10:01.140 --> 01:10:03.300
the bomb at the end. That was linked, that was

01:10:03.300 --> 01:10:05.020
linked. They kept having the same character.

01:10:05.220 --> 01:10:06.840
And I really like... And it was obvious. And

01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:10.899
the episode when they go into the... video where

01:10:10.899 --> 01:10:13.899
she's been left and they got the technology to

01:10:13.899 --> 01:10:17.020
look at all the angles yeah that's a really dark

01:10:17.020 --> 01:10:20.899
episode yeah it was really good idea and as yet

01:10:20.899 --> 01:10:24.539
the main story arc of where did she come from

01:10:24.539 --> 01:10:27.659
brilliant yeah and then they just bend her off

01:10:27.659 --> 01:10:31.300
as well yeah what they need to do okay here's

01:10:31.300 --> 01:10:33.100
here's something for whoever picks up netflix

01:10:33.100 --> 01:10:35.960
i mean i don't trust them either they need to

01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:40.250
sign somebody up for three seasons right? The

01:10:40.250 --> 01:10:45.270
first season, just Doctor Who. No fucking around,

01:10:45.550 --> 01:10:49.529
no big links to other stuff, just Doctor Who.

01:10:49.890 --> 01:10:52.130
Cybermen, we're talking. Yeah. Daleks, we're

01:10:52.130 --> 01:10:54.090
talking. You know, bring back some of the ones

01:10:54.090 --> 01:10:57.930
from, yeah, the, even the Don't Blink, you know,

01:10:57.949 --> 01:11:01.310
the Weeping Angels. You know, and then season

01:11:01.310 --> 01:11:05.149
two, again, just Doctor Who. There may be some

01:11:05.149 --> 01:11:08.560
other things happening. Season three, The end

01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:11.420
of that Doctor's arc have all these things, but

01:11:11.420 --> 01:11:14.000
that's when you find out there was stuff in the

01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:17.079
first two seasons of that Doctor that do link

01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:21.579
to this, but you had no clue. There was no subtlety,

01:11:21.579 --> 01:11:26.880
nothing. It just was not told until season three,

01:11:26.979 --> 01:11:31.279
where you get shown, or doesn't even do flashbacks.

01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:33.439
It just goes this, this, this, kind of like the

01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:35.100
bad wolf, where it just had that scene where

01:11:35.100 --> 01:11:39.710
it shows you the... The graffiti and different

01:11:39.710 --> 01:11:42.670
things and all these little bits. And it's all

01:11:42.670 --> 01:11:44.590
been there and you can rewind and go and see

01:11:44.590 --> 01:11:47.670
it. It's almost like Futurama. They didn't go

01:11:47.670 --> 01:11:49.829
back and edit it. You can see in that very first

01:11:49.829 --> 01:11:52.430
episode, you see the shadow of Nibbler push his

01:11:52.430 --> 01:11:56.989
chair. It's there. Yeah. But it's subtle and

01:11:56.989 --> 01:12:00.170
no one comments on it. It just happens. And that's

01:12:00.170 --> 01:12:05.550
how you do the dropping the mic moments. And

01:12:05.550 --> 01:12:07.550
I think that they're just making it too obvious

01:12:07.550 --> 01:12:09.590
because they treat the viewer like we're idiots,

01:12:09.930 --> 01:12:13.750
firstly. And, well, I think that's secondly,

01:12:13.930 --> 01:12:15.649
thirdly, fourthly, fifthly, they think we're

01:12:15.649 --> 01:12:18.810
fucking idiots. Correct. They think they're better

01:12:18.810 --> 01:12:22.069
than us. Right, so let me read this then. Disney

01:12:22.069 --> 01:12:24.050
has officially dropped its partnership with the

01:12:24.050 --> 01:12:26.409
BBC to distribute the long -running sci -fi adventure

01:12:26.409 --> 01:12:29.449
series Doctor Who. This decision marks the end

01:12:29.449 --> 01:12:31.770
of a two -season collaboration starring Shuti

01:12:31.770 --> 01:12:36.229
Gatwa as the titular Time Lord, along with five

01:12:36.229 --> 01:12:39.949
specials between 2023 and 2025. The partnership

01:12:39.949 --> 01:12:42.449
also included an upcoming five -episode spin

01:12:42.449 --> 01:12:44.229
-off series, The War Between the Land and the

01:12:44.229 --> 01:12:46.869
Sea, which apparently has been trashed. I haven't

01:12:46.869 --> 01:12:48.470
watched it, so I'm going to... watch it myself

01:12:48.470 --> 01:12:50.750
before i saw a trailer or something on youtube

01:12:50.750 --> 01:12:52.470
never actually watched yeah i'm gonna give a

01:12:52.470 --> 01:12:55.310
proper try but apparently interesting it's not

01:12:55.310 --> 01:12:58.010
been received particularly well so far is the

01:12:58.010 --> 01:13:00.149
doctor in it uh no it's a complete kind of spin

01:13:00.149 --> 01:13:03.109
-off okay uh despite the departure the bbc has

01:13:03.109 --> 01:13:04.890
confirmed the doctor who will return on december

01:13:04.890 --> 01:13:07.270
25th 26th with a new christmas special written

01:13:07.270 --> 01:13:10.270
by russell t davis the bbc remains fully committed

01:13:10.270 --> 01:13:12.329
to doctor who ensuring that the show will continue

01:13:12.329 --> 01:13:15.729
despite disney's exit from the franchise so they

01:13:15.729 --> 01:13:17.890
just partnered they didn't buy it Yeah, no, they

01:13:17.890 --> 01:13:19.970
just partnered. But basically, that would have

01:13:19.970 --> 01:13:23.409
been a huge cash injection, which explains a

01:13:23.409 --> 01:13:26.329
lot because you've got some great tie -ins. You

01:13:26.329 --> 01:13:29.829
look at the various bad guys that you had from

01:13:29.829 --> 01:13:33.310
that first season leading up to the Toymaker.

01:13:33.609 --> 01:13:36.270
Yeah. You wouldn't have got those names just

01:13:36.270 --> 01:13:38.810
to BBC. They needed that tie -in with the Doctor

01:13:38.810 --> 01:13:42.630
to get them. So I'll be intrigued to see if BBC

01:13:42.630 --> 01:13:45.250
put money behind it or it goes back to being

01:13:45.250 --> 01:13:47.329
a bit homespun. I think once upon a time you

01:13:47.329 --> 01:13:51.250
would have got larger British actors coming in

01:13:51.250 --> 01:13:54.189
to do it because they would have all had their

01:13:54.189 --> 01:13:56.810
own nostalgias for Doctor Who and it's a big

01:13:56.810 --> 01:14:02.710
thing here, Doctor Who. Now, I don't think it's

01:14:02.710 --> 01:14:04.989
there now. No, it's not. You could get me to

01:14:04.989 --> 01:14:07.579
do it. I would happily be Doctor Who. I think

01:14:07.579 --> 01:14:08.819
we should write the episodes, mate. Yeah, if

01:14:08.819 --> 01:14:11.300
Russell T Davies wants to ask me, I mean, I would

01:14:11.300 --> 01:14:14.260
say I need to be involved on some of the scripts.

01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:16.539
Thank you. Tom and I need to just read some of

01:14:16.539 --> 01:14:18.119
your scripts first. I know we haven't done a

01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:20.239
shit show for a while, but maybe we should have

01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:22.659
a go at doing a spin -off Doctor Who version

01:14:22.659 --> 01:14:26.220
of the USS shit show. Oh, look, it's coming back

01:14:26.220 --> 01:14:27.979
next year. I gave myself a long break. I got

01:14:27.979 --> 01:14:30.779
burnout. Oh, I know you did. But I'm just saying,

01:14:30.819 --> 01:14:33.460
you can be the Doctor. I'll be the sidekick.

01:14:34.370 --> 01:14:38.810
Okay. I'll be Rose, you be Tennant. That's not

01:14:38.810 --> 01:14:42.029
how I've historically written it. It's the other

01:14:42.029 --> 01:14:44.050
way around. Yeah, well, okay, we'll write it

01:14:44.050 --> 01:14:45.609
the other way around. I don't mind, I don't mind.

01:14:45.770 --> 01:14:48.689
We could do it. That's it, really, isn't it?

01:14:50.609 --> 01:14:53.829
Yeah, this has not been a particularly Christmas

01:14:53.829 --> 01:14:58.329
Christmas special, but it's... I think it's like

01:14:58.329 --> 01:15:00.229
the actual Doctor Who episode, the only thing

01:15:00.229 --> 01:15:01.689
that linked it really to Christmas was the fact

01:15:01.689 --> 01:15:04.100
that they were dressed as Santa. Yeah. And then

01:15:04.100 --> 01:15:05.880
there's a Christmas meal at the end. This is

01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:08.479
it. It's something that happens at Christmas,

01:15:08.539 --> 01:15:10.939
not a Christmas special. Where would this sit

01:15:10.939 --> 01:15:14.039
on the advent? In the middle. Somewhere in the

01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:17.539
middle. Right in the middle. Better than Asda,

01:15:17.579 --> 01:15:20.340
not as good as Aldi. Oh, nowhere near as good

01:15:20.340 --> 01:15:22.939
as Aldi. Now, if Kevin the Carrot turned up in

01:15:22.939 --> 01:15:24.819
a Doctor Who episode... Oh, now we're talking.

01:15:26.580 --> 01:15:29.060
The sidekick. He could be the next sidekick.

01:15:29.340 --> 01:15:32.260
Oh, Kevin the Cat. Oh, my God. Get Russell on

01:15:32.260 --> 01:15:34.060
the phone. No, we need to speak to Audi. We need

01:15:34.060 --> 01:15:36.359
to say, Audi, next Christmas advert, Kevin's

01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:39.880
the Doctor. Or get Doctor Who and Kevin's the

01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:48.720
sidekick. Let's workshop this. Yes. Transfer

01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:53.800
complete. Well, there we are. So, as I alluded

01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.359
to at the start of the episode, I think I might

01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:57.680
have said the 15th. That's not the right date.

01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:01.279
This is the last episode of season two of the

01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:05.939
Untitled Sci -Fi Show. You will hear us again

01:16:05.939 --> 01:16:09.199
before the new year. I'll say that in a second.

01:16:09.260 --> 01:16:12.319
But the next main, called the mainline episode,

01:16:12.539 --> 01:16:15.560
where we'll be talking about Fifth Element, that'll

01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:19.260
be released on Monday the 12th of January, 2026.

01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:22.960
So you've got quite a long wait for that. But...

01:16:23.529 --> 01:16:27.289
In the meantime, we have got two very special,

01:16:27.449 --> 01:16:30.029
one very special in particular, bonus episodes

01:16:30.029 --> 01:16:34.369
for you. Not going to tell you what one of them

01:16:34.369 --> 01:16:37.850
is, but it is a damn near two hour watch along

01:16:37.850 --> 01:16:44.229
of an iconic Christmas special, science fiction.

01:16:45.369 --> 01:16:50.130
Holy sugar tits. I was not expecting what we

01:16:50.130 --> 01:16:56.550
got. No. It is about two hours long. It is painful.

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I'm doing very minimal on the edit for it because

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I want everyone to experience what we did all

01:17:04.310 --> 01:17:05.250
the way through. You don't want to relive it,

01:17:05.289 --> 01:17:07.250
do you? I don't want to relive it. I'm literally

01:17:07.250 --> 01:17:09.090
going to put something at the beginning and some

01:17:09.090 --> 01:17:11.710
at the end and then just post it. And that will

01:17:11.710 --> 01:17:14.189
be coming out Christmas Eve. So all you people

01:17:14.189 --> 01:17:16.369
like me who I normally would be this year, I'm

01:17:16.369 --> 01:17:19.220
not. We work Christmas Eve, get stuck in that

01:17:19.220 --> 01:17:21.920
traffic, can be there for a long time. You'll

01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:25.460
have two hours of listening to Tom and I talk

01:17:25.460 --> 01:17:28.560
about a film that we're watching along. We slowly

01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:32.039
break. Yeah. As the technology breaks for the

01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:35.920
first 20 minutes. Oh, fuck off. We then break

01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:39.539
afterwards. So I'm not going to spoil it. Just

01:17:39.539 --> 01:17:41.979
wait. Christmas Eve is about two hours long.

01:17:42.539 --> 01:17:45.060
It's going to get copywritten on YouTube. Oh,

01:17:45.100 --> 01:17:48.470
yeah. But I don't care. It can disappear. It's

01:17:48.470 --> 01:17:50.189
going to be fine on Spotify and everywhere else.

01:17:50.430 --> 01:17:52.710
Exactly. We do a watch along. And then on Christmas

01:17:52.710 --> 01:17:55.470
Day, there's a little, another bonus, a little

01:17:55.470 --> 01:17:58.750
unboxing thing. I don't expect you all to be

01:17:58.750 --> 01:18:00.090
listening on Christmas Eve on Book Day, really.

01:18:00.430 --> 01:18:04.510
Well, I fucking do. If we get the chance. That's

01:18:04.510 --> 01:18:06.329
a little fun one you brought. You brought something

01:18:06.329 --> 01:18:09.010
of TikTok, didn't you? I did. Well, it's fucking

01:18:09.010 --> 01:18:12.550
hell. TikTok or shit talk. Yeah. So that's a

01:18:12.550 --> 01:18:14.270
fun one as well. So you'll enjoy those, hopefully.

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