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Hello? Yes, it's Valentino. Okay. Uh -huh. Right.

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Well, they are friends as far as I know, not

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that I give a shit. Okay. Oh, God, not the monkeys

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again. Please, God, not the monkeys. I'm sorry.

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Who killed the children? Human flesh -eating

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vaginas. I thought this was a sci -fi show, not

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a horror one. Okay. I understand. Right away.

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Jesus. Got a batch of personals. Dispatching

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them to your laptops now. And if helium falls,

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so does Barsoom. He walked right past us. There

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was nobody. If you're reasoned, you hide from

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them. Does my line of work make you uncomfortable,

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precious? After nine years... You know what I

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realize? Ignorance is bliss. Hello there. Valentino

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here. Your friendly neighbourhood spider... Oh,

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I mean voiceover man. On this week's heavily

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redacted show, the boys get a little spicy. Trust

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me, they're actually friends and they do like

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each other. It's just being wankers is part of

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their love language. Also, management have asked

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me to remove a rather large chunk of Rob's, um,

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wafflings. Imagine Tom talking about monkeys,

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remember that? How we all had to sit through

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that fucking bullshit for two episodes. Well,

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it's Rob's turn this week and it's about a clown

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killing children. Let's just say the big wigs

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upstairs at Business Incorporated weren't happy.

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Well, without further ado, let's get on with

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this bollocks. I've pressed record while we're

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still... Oh, of course you have. You never know

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what comedy gold might happen, like the normal

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stuff, while we're still fiddling with ourselves.

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You're fiddling with knobs, I'm tugging this

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about. Knobble gobble, as we just said. Knobble

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knobble. Knobbly gobbly. How you been? Yeah,

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not too bad, dude. How are you doing? I'm okay,

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yeah, a bit tired. We're starting, it's ten o

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'clock, everyone can still hear the rustling,

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but I don't really care. Yeah, no, fair enough.

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We're really here, we're real people, doing real

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things, getting real things ready. I'm just going

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to let you all hear the noise. I would absolutely

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kill you if you did this on our show. Oh, wait,

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you did the other day. Did I? Oh, yeah. There's

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bits where you're doing this and then you suddenly

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go, oh, sorry. I did do that, yeah. I realised

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I wasn't near enough the microphone. I was self

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-correcting without asking you to pause beforehand.

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You don't want me to tell me off. I do. But then

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I noticed you smile when I tell you off. And

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it's like, hmm. Is it because I couldn't care

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less? Yeah, that's what she says. No one gets

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to tell me off. Right, should we start? Might

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be an idea. Enter authorization code. Okay, guess

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the intro. So, how do you think you did? I got

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six out of six. You reckon you got six out of

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six? Oh, 100%. Do I need to stop making these

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harder? Because you're getting them. And by the

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way, James also got them all right again. So

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well done, James. You're welcomed back into the

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winner's lounge. I'm not on my own anymore. I'm

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afraid we are bringing in the BYOB rule. Bring

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your own biscuits. Oh, thank God it's not bring

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your own booze. No, no, we've got booze. It's

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just running out. Running a bit low on biscuits.

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Yeah, the old bourbons have run out. All there

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is in there is ginger snaps at the moment, and

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no one likes that. And a surplus of the festive

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digestives, which no one's eating, oddly. Yeah,

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funny that. No wonder they shouldn't waste the

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name festive digestive. I know. Adam should go

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work for the McVitie's advertising corporation,

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shouldn't he? Hmm. Okay, should we go for the

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first one? Yes, I think you should. Well, I've

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pressed it. That was pointless, wasn't it? Did

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you set them up? I did set them up. Leon, we

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have an assignment. I didn't press it hard enough.

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Go on then. Aeon Flux. Aeon Flux. That's correct.

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Weird -ass film. Yeah, I've only ever seen it

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once. I think I've got it on DVD. I've got it

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on DVD because it was just through that period

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of time where HMV still existed in town and DVDs

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were $4 .99. So it's like, I'd quite like to

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see that. It's a fiver. I'm just going to buy

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it because everyone was busy buying Blu -rays

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instead. The price of DVDs crashed. It was quite

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nice in the era, but yeah, I think I've only

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seen it once. And I don't even think it was the

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DVD I wanted. Two things that aren't existing

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anymore. Low price DVDs and HMVs. Yeah, I've

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noticed that the price of DVDs have started going

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up again. So expensive. It was, what was it?

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Three, we went to the one in Watford. Can you

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remember what it was, Miranda? It was me and

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one of Theo's friends' dads were actually in

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there. Yeah, it was like three for 35 or something

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on Blu -ray. You used to be three for a tenner.

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Yeah, it was like, no way should that be the

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case. It took over from the VHS days. So when

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DVDs were at their height and they were like

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15 to 20 pounds each, videos were like three

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for a tenner. Or I think it was even five for

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20 at one point. And then Blu -rays came out.

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So DVDs filled that slot. And so you've got the

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three for 15 offer. But no, that's ridiculous.

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No, they were selling some Blu -rays in there

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for 20 pounds individually. And you think, no,

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not nowadays. You're competing against streaming

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now. You've really got to lower your expectations

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of who's going to be buying these. You know,

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the only way I can play a Blu -ray is by putting

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it in my Xbox or PlayStation. Yeah, absolutely.

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And when they go discless. Well, I've got no

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way of doing it. Although my big concern is,

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obviously, we've talked about it many a time,

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is the whole digital revolution and the fact

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we hate that things can be taken away from us.

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So I do buy DVDs still of things I really want

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to keep. Yeah, I'd like having them, but it is

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a difficult sell to me. 20 quid for one. No,

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well, little fun fact for you. I haven't said

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fun fact for a while. Here we go. Everyone, Miranda,

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are you listening? We are now going to decide

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whether this fact is fun. So you can buy in Asda

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and not Tesco anymore, weirdly. They've kind

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of stopped doing hardware and TVs. But Asda still

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has their stores that you can buy TVs and DVD

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players. It's not going well so far. £20 buys

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a DVD player. Has HDMI on it. Their £20 DVD player

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and the same one is Amazon brand. You can buy

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from Amazon for the same price. Multi -region

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now. Yeah, they started doing that, didn't they?

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They did start making a lot of the multi -region.

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I think it's brilliant because it does mean you

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can jump onto eBay. It's like, I don't care,

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that's an American. I'm just going to have it.

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It's because TVs don't care about NTSC anymore.

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Yeah, that is a fun fact. Well done. So actually,

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for 20 quid, a DVD player that can play any DVD

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from across the world, I think that's... Brilliant.

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When the player is the same price or cheaper

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than the DVD. Well, this is it, isn't it? It's

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like a printer's cheaper than the printer ink.

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Should we do the second one, Augustine Trey?

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You've got terrible handwriting. I haven't handwritten

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anything since I was at school. That was a bit

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loud, sorry. I wouldn't worry. Transcendence.

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Transcendence, yes, you've seen that. Morgan

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Freeman meeting up with Paul Bettany. It is Paul

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Bettany, yes, that's right. Yeah, I've... I think

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I've seen about two thirds of it and never bothered

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finishing it. It does get a bit odd by the end.

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There's some weird drones and things going around.

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But yeah, it's a good film. That's the one with

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Johnny Depp basically developing a way to carry

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his soul on forever. Yeah, somebody uploads his

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consciousness into it and then starts what we

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all worry about. The best thing for the human

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race is to end the human race kind of scenario.

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Spoilers. Next one. Maybe more than a dozen inside.

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When the door's down, blow the bulbs. Yes, sir.

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I know what film this is. Watch. Hang on. Look.

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I'm going to demonstrate this film. Not any use

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for the people listening. Go on then. I'm going

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to move my phone and you'll know what podcast

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people will know when I move my phone. Hang on.

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Wow. I'm moving my phone around. Just any movement

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they do in that film has an overdubbed. So I

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pull the gun out. I move my hand left. It's awful.

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Was it before Matrix or after? Similar time.

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I think it was just after The Matrix. Yeah, I

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enjoyed it. It's a good film. You can say what

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it is. Equilibrium. Yep. But the gun kung fu

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is just so fucking dumb. It's with... Christian

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Bale. Christian Bale, that's right. And Seen

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Bean. Sean... I've gotten into a dark room, but

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I'm just going to... Everyone's dead. That's

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right, that basically is pretty much... It's

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such a terrible bit. The rest of the film, really

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good. That thing, though, is just so stupid.

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Next one. I just made a joke. And, uh, you know...

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Stop talking. Elevation and heart rate detected.

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Would you like a pill? No. Weirdly, this took

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me a little while to work out. It's a fun scene.

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It shouldn't have, because it's really good.

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And this is probably, out of all the films that

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you did today, is the one I've seen the most.

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It's Elysium. When he's basically trying to explain

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why he's late. Yeah, it's right at the start.

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You've just got a... Yeah, you have blood pressure.

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Would you like a pill? You know, it's very Alien.

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It's such a good film. It makes you think if

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the... What's the new Alien series that we've

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all been watching? Alien Earth. If Alien Earth

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took that bit from this, you know, where he's

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talking to the robot. It's very, very similar.

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I think Elysium is such a good film. It's a brilliant

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film, yeah. I don't know, actually. Matt Damon.

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Yeah, Matt Damon. You've got to when you hear

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his name, sorry. I don't know what the public

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made of it, to be honest. I don't know if it

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was a high -rated or low -rated. I mean, I could

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look it up on IMDb. I don't know. But I really

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enjoyed it. I liked it. I really enjoyed it.

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I loved the effects in it. I loved the kind of

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mech weird suit things, especially on Krieger.

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Or Kruger, sorry. Well -remembered on the names,

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by me. That's because it's a good film. Time

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travel has not yet been invented, but 30 years

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from now, it will have been. This is a really

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good film. So this is Looper with Sean Gordon

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something Leverett, isn't it? Is it James Gordon

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Leverett? Something like that. But the only thing

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I remember him from initially was Third Rock

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from the Sun. Yeah. Joseph Gordon -Levitt. Joseph

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Gordon -Levitt, that's the one. And who plays

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him as an older person? That's a massive spoiler.

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Oh, I don't know. Bruce Willis? Is it? Oh, shit,

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yes. Yeah, Bruce Willis is, yeah. Yeah, because

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don't forget, he's also, is he Cobra Commander

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in the... What? G .I. Joe films? I haven't seen

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the G .I. Joe films. Oh, haven't you? None of

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them, yeah. Oh, he's the Cobra Commander or whoever

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it is, isn't it? Oh, Bruce Willis is? No, Joseph

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Gordon -Levitt. Although Bruce Willis is in...

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the second gi joe he plays gi joe oh i've heard

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they are brilliant but i've never good fun they're

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stupid fun they are not brilliant mind -melting

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good films uh they're not going to pass up with

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let's say schindler's shopping list or shawshank

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redemption but they're good fun i loved them

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because they're just they are you can just sit

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back and watch it it's like This is exactly how

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I imagined it would be if I was playing with

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these as a kid. What's the extra word you'd add

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to Shawshank Redemption to make it a different

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film? Um... There's a brain tingler for you.

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We'll think about it while we continue and he

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can just randomly splurt out what the Shawshank

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Redemption word would be. Shawlamshank. Oh, God,

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no. Oh, God, what would it be? It would have

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to be, um... Shawshank's Final Redemption. His

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final redemption. A redemption arc. Shawshank

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redemption arc. It would be like an anime then.

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The whole thing would be anime. Anime, absolutely.

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Go on, last one. You guys haven't seen my wife.

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Let me show you my wife. My wife. My special

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angel. She's my special angel. Special angel.

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Welcome to District 9. District 9, yeah. Great

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film again. Yeah. Brilliant. Mr. Blue Camp. Absolutely

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love District 9. Yeah, I really, really wish

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that they do a sequel to it. But at the same

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time, I just think you could. I think they could

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come up with an adequate story to carry it on.

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It would need that spaceship to come back and

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just destroy the world because of how poorly

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they were treated. Maybe that's what they should

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do then. Maybe. Well, well done. You got all

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of them right. You and James, welcome back with

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open arms. The bouncer will let you in. Welcome

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back. I hadn't left. I was sleeping in there.

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Oh yeah, I suppose you never left. I don't leave.

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I just sleep in my booth and they keep bringing

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me stuff. I get booth treatment. You're in the

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VIP. Yeah. I keep ordering Cristal. So the one

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that everyone would have heard at the beginning

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of this. It's a normal one for everyone else,

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but not a normal one for you. Oh, no. Super special

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secret episode of guest intro for you this week

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that everyone just heard and the next episode.

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Oh, dear. And it is guest the intro wife edition.

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Ooh. There, out of the six that you just heard,

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three of them were chosen by your wife. Oh, no.

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And three were chosen by my wife. And it is your

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job to guess whose wife chose what films. Are

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they sci -fi style? They are all sci -fi. Right.

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So this episode and the next one, because they

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chose six each, and I've cherry -picked three

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from each, you will have to choose not only what

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they are, but your special assignment is to then

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guess which wife. Oh, my specialist. And I will

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let the wives decide on your forfeit if you even

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get any of them. Oh, wait, I've got a fucking

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forfeit. Fuck you. Any forfeit I suffer, you

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have to suffer with me. Don't do that to me.

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Oh, I will. Go on then. What have you been doing?

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Let's see. I went to the cinema. Mm -hmm. You

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want me to actually tell you what I did? Yeah,

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some more information would be good. I mean,

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I know that last week you did ramble on 20 minutes.

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Right, I saw Predator Badlands. There you go,

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your turn. Are you joking? No, I'm going to do

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a pull. No, right, okay, so I saw Predator Badlands.

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Yeah. We weren't sure on the initial images,

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were we? We were a bit like, oh, no, we were

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like, what have they done to Deck? Deck looks

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like he's the, yeah, we probably shouldn't even

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say that, so I'm not going to. To Deck. Yeah,

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Deck's the name of the Predator. D -E -K, though.

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Don't worry. That's what he's called? He's got

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a name? Yeah. All Predators have names, apparently.

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Do they? Yeah, apparently so. Aren't you just

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called Predator? Yeah. Bob, Dave, Gary. Ian.

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Barry. Where is it? Ian was in the first one.

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Colin in the second. Colin was in the second

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one. Colin got taken out by Danny Gover. Crap

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predator, that one, mate. You remember Ian? Yeah,

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I remember Ian. He got destroyed by that Austrian

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dude in the jungle. Don't you make that mistake.

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Right. First of all, I'm going to kind of...

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encompass this with, I actually really enjoyed

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it. I had fun watching it. I didn't get kind

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of a numb bum from it. Very impressively done

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on the most part. I'm waiting for the big but.

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Well, no, there is. And I can't deny. I was just

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thinking the same thing. Oh, yeah. Those other

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predators, they can't deny. No, I did enjoy it.

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It's just, for me... And I'm sorry to James who

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really enjoyed it. It just wasn't enough Predator

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for me. Not enough Predator. Not enough Predator.

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It was Disneyfication at the max level. Is it

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a Hulu thing? Is it going to be on Hulu or is

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it directly on Disney? Well, I don't know. I

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don't know. The problem with it is it's a 12.

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Oh, no. So just like they did with Robocop. The

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new Robocop was actually quite an enjoyable film.

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As soon as you tag it with Robocop, it breaks

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it. And the issue being, I could have taken Kay

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and let her watch Predator, Badlands. Now, she's

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probably not going to enjoy it, but she could

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have. No cap. Yeah, no cap. There was, I think,

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one swear word I picked up on, which was shit.

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The entire planet that he's on. is him, aliens,

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and an entire army of Weyland -Yutani synthetics.

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It says aliens are in it too. No, no, no, no.

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These are just alien races, not xenomorphs from

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the alien franchise. Sentient aliens or just

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weird monsters? We'll get to that in a moment.

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So, first of all, they've done what I kind of

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described as Carmageddon in the 90s. Now, do

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you remember when Carmageddon came out? Not particularly.

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I do. Brilliant game. Came out. Scored highly

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everywhere. Red Blood. Yep. Lots and lots of

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news articles about it complaining. All of a

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sudden, you could not buy the game anymore with

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Red Blood. That's what they did to Mortal Kombat.

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The UK got Green Blood. And then shortly after,

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they released patch 1 .1, which brought back

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the Red Blood if you wanted it. It feels really

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like they just did this film where, right, we're

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going to kill loads of people. How can we make

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this? lower on the age range but still kill people

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or just make them full of white blood and call

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them synthetics yeah great idea job done oh annoying

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so that's kind of it but then there's just all

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just little bits that just didn't work i like

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the idea that they're the runs of the litter

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basically i like that as an idea brilliant gotta

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prove himself great chooses to go up against

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the biggest baddest alien that they can find

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in their alien database he's got a little kind

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of database it goes Scary, not scary, scary,

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not scary. I'm going to hunt that. Whatever.

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Fine. Even though that's a bit silly. Gotcha.

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That's what we're going for. Lands on this planet.

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And Weyland -Yutani is already there. He fucks

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up almost straight away and nearly dies. But

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don't worry. Elf Fanning's android basically

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saves him within the first five minutes of being

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on the planet. And if you just... I haven't read

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any of the comics. I haven't read any of the

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books. So all the lore that has been created

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is wasted on me. Because as far as I'm concerned,

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Predator 1 and 2 are the only Predator films,

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and that is the lore I know. And if I base it

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on that knowledge, Deck should have just gone,

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fuck off, android weird woman -looking creature

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thing that's been ripped in half. If I'm going

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to die, I'm just going to die screaming and fighting

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my way to death. And blow myself up. Instead,

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he lets the android help him. Right, so she's

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an android. She's a synthetic who's been cut

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in half and basically crucified by another creature

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on the planet. He lets her have his rotating

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flying disc and she comes down. But she's floating

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around. No, she's basically on this wood pile

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and he throws his only weapon with him to her.

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She manages to get loose and kill this dragon

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thing that's about to kill him. Where are her

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legs? We'll get to that in a moment. So he's

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gone to the planet to fight. fight something

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called the Calisk, which is this big monster.

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And when she went to find the Calisk, she got

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ripped in half. And, oh, she's also been paired

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up with another synthetic. And they're basically,

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oh, we've got emotions. We've been given sensitivity

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to help us with this mission. Why would they

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need that? So it helps them get on the side of

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the other aliens they might come in contact with.

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right it's like no sorry that's that doesn't

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sound like a whaling newton no it's a load of

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politics and basically the entire film is her

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crooning after where her sister is and she can't

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wait to see her sister and she's been so excited

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by all of this blah blah blah very saccharine

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They finally find her legs. Then she finally

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admits to Deck that actually she's kind of double

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-crossed him and she's called the Weyland -Yutani

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people to come and rescue her and come and fix

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her. And also the Kallister. Anyway, so it all

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goes down that route. The bit you were saying

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about the creatures. Yeah, there is another creature

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that she calls Bud that comes and helps them,

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which is this weird blue monkey -looking fucking

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thing that looks awful like CGI. No, no, no,

00:22:33.710 --> 00:22:38.049
no, no. It looks like this kind of... oh it's

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really hard to fucking explain what it looks

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like without showing you a picture but basically

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it's comedic it's there and it smiles and it

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laughs and it's kind of it copies um well they've

00:22:52.829 --> 00:22:54.769
got to sell the toys to the 12 year olds well

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this is the thing it's it just it's really really

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bad it's just like why have you done this you

00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:05.769
don't want there you go that's what bud is that's

00:23:05.769 --> 00:23:09.609
a weird looking thing Yeah. Oh, it's quite cute,

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isn't it? It's like its whole face opens up.

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Well, that's it. And yeah, basically the predator

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learns to love it and to care for it. And that

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actually it needs to create its own pack rather

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than deal with the fact that it's been kicked

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out of its own one and his brother was killed

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by his father. So yeah, so much goes on. I thought

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the whole point of those things, sorry to interrupt,

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the predators were going and it was like a trial

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for them to become predators. They had to go

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kill these things. I mean, I can ruin the story

00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:40.180
for everyone, including yourself. It's up to

00:23:40.180 --> 00:23:41.880
you. Don't completely ruin it. I might actually

00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:44.359
watch it. Yeah, well, basically, the very beginning

00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:47.259
of the film is him trying to fight his brother,

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and his brother's like, you're ready for your

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hunt. His dad turns up, and his dad's like, why

00:23:51.500 --> 00:23:54.079
haven't you killed him? He's a runt. And the

00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:56.279
brother's just fighting, going, you've got to

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give him this chance. You've got to give him

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this chance. And the dad just kills the brother,

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which makes Deck really angry. But the brother's...

00:24:03.129 --> 00:24:05.289
pre -programmed his spaceship to fire him off

00:24:05.289 --> 00:24:09.470
to go and get the calisk. Oh, yeah. Just dreadful.

00:24:09.529 --> 00:24:11.609
So the dad is a proper predator then? Yeah, the

00:24:11.609 --> 00:24:13.630
dad's a dick. It's perfect. He is exactly what

00:24:13.630 --> 00:24:16.869
a predator should be. But even the end is set

00:24:16.869 --> 00:24:20.170
up as a comedy. You're joking. No, basically

00:24:20.170 --> 00:24:24.130
things happen and then you've got Elle Fanning

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stood next to Deck and there's this giant spaceship

00:24:26.509 --> 00:24:29.369
coming and she's like, oh, is this more friends?

00:24:29.789 --> 00:24:33.549
And Deck turns around and goes, no. Not friends.

00:24:34.390 --> 00:24:38.930
Do you speak English? No, they've just subtitled.

00:24:39.589 --> 00:24:43.089
It's my mother. Oh, fuck's sake. And that's how

00:24:43.089 --> 00:24:47.230
they end. So, as I said, it's an enjoyable film.

00:24:48.069 --> 00:24:51.029
Just, they could have just ignored the Predator

00:24:51.029 --> 00:24:52.910
design. Get rid of the Predator design, come

00:24:52.910 --> 00:24:55.569
up with your own design, and make it its own

00:24:55.569 --> 00:24:59.069
standalone film. Because right now, I could take

00:24:59.069 --> 00:25:01.480
K to see it. and say, oh, do you want to watch

00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:05.200
Predator 1 and 2? And, oh, the trauma. And they'll

00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:07.299
be a little bit different. Isn't Prey meant to

00:25:07.299 --> 00:25:09.180
be very good, though? That's an 18, right? So

00:25:09.180 --> 00:25:11.759
this, I don't know if Prey's an 18. It says 16

00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.099
plus on Disney. Oh, okay. Because that's supposed

00:25:14.099 --> 00:25:18.180
to be very good. Yeah, it's, and the... And like

00:25:18.180 --> 00:25:23.220
the original ones, just a... Oh, Jesus. Sorry.

00:25:23.339 --> 00:25:26.460
Just like Jesus. Yeah, well. And like one predator

00:25:26.460 --> 00:25:30.559
hunting people. But back in the caveman. Basically,

00:25:31.140 --> 00:25:35.480
yeah. So that's what prey seems to be. I'm just

00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.640
trying to find it now. That's not it, surely.

00:25:41.819 --> 00:25:48.960
No, that's not it. Yeah, it's just... I don't

00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.619
know. In my mind, it would have been far better.

00:25:52.660 --> 00:25:55.460
It was a 15 prey. Okay. It would have been far

00:25:55.460 --> 00:25:59.319
better as just its own independent sci -fi film,

00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:01.539
and I would have accepted it far more. Now, I

00:26:01.539 --> 00:26:03.279
enjoyed it. As I said, I keep saying I enjoyed

00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:06.640
it. I really did enjoy it. I just can't fully

00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.460
accept it. Just like I can't fully accept the

00:26:09.460 --> 00:26:12.420
new Robocop is Robocop. Just like I can't really

00:26:12.420 --> 00:26:15.920
accept Terminator 3 as a Terminator film. They

00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:19.339
are all good science fiction films that... are

00:26:19.339 --> 00:26:21.359
ruined because they've attached themselves to

00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:24.579
a franchise this is exactly what we've said previously

00:26:24.579 --> 00:26:26.259
isn't it i can't remember exactly what it was

00:26:26.259 --> 00:26:29.019
we said about before a few episodes ago we said

00:26:29.019 --> 00:26:31.200
something similar that this would have been a

00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:34.259
great film had it been i did not just take in

00:26:34.259 --> 00:26:36.960
the name exactly yeah yeah yeah we have done

00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:39.859
and it and i don't really stand by it it's a

00:26:39.859 --> 00:26:42.220
good film it should have been given its own legs

00:26:42.220 --> 00:26:44.480
to stand on instead though attaching it to the

00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.670
predator franchise and i don't know As I said,

00:26:47.750 --> 00:26:50.869
Prey is meant to be very good. Pardon me, they've

00:26:50.869 --> 00:26:53.470
done this animated series or film, whatever it's

00:26:53.470 --> 00:26:55.549
called, which again is meant to be really good.

00:26:56.849 --> 00:27:00.349
And Dan Trexenberg is in discussions about making

00:27:00.349 --> 00:27:03.329
the next film to Prey, which will be something

00:27:03.329 --> 00:27:05.190
like Prey 2, but this time it's going to be World

00:27:05.190 --> 00:27:08.950
War 2 based. Awesome idea. Absolutely brilliant.

00:27:09.170 --> 00:27:11.460
That's very cool. And I mean, there's a few Easter

00:27:11.460 --> 00:27:13.900
eggs in this that were cool. So you go into Deck

00:27:13.900 --> 00:27:16.460
Ship and it's one of the Harvester aliens from

00:27:16.460 --> 00:27:19.339
Independence Day's skull on the wall. Yeah. It's

00:27:19.339 --> 00:27:22.400
quite clearly that's what it's meant to be. Whether

00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.599
or not they admit to it is another matter. But

00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.380
it's still quite cool that it's there. Wasn't

00:27:27.380 --> 00:27:29.460
that how they introduced Predator and Alien together?

00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.339
Because they put an alien skull in the Predator

00:27:32.339 --> 00:27:34.140
ship and that was just their way of going from

00:27:34.140 --> 00:27:39.509
Predator 2. no i'm i couldn't tell you but the

00:27:39.509 --> 00:27:43.190
thing is as going back to why it just if you're

00:27:43.190 --> 00:27:44.769
going to follow a franchise you need to follow

00:27:44.769 --> 00:27:49.529
it properly this is what i didn't like and it's

00:27:49.529 --> 00:27:52.309
just like okay i can get on board with the runt

00:27:52.309 --> 00:27:54.769
predator proving themselves i'm fine with that

00:27:54.769 --> 00:27:58.170
what i'm not fine with is that whether you liked

00:27:58.170 --> 00:28:01.990
alien romulus or not I really enjoyed it. I thought

00:28:01.990 --> 00:28:03.930
it was a really good film. I loved it. The bloke

00:28:03.930 --> 00:28:06.690
that played Andy, oh my God, played a synthetic

00:28:06.690 --> 00:28:10.049
beyond perfectly. You look at the people that

00:28:10.049 --> 00:28:13.009
played Bishop and the one that I can never remember

00:28:13.009 --> 00:28:17.230
his name of in the original Alien. Ian Holmes.

00:28:17.410 --> 00:28:19.509
Ian Holmes and whatever his character was called.

00:28:22.329 --> 00:28:27.049
They're perfect. They are truly menacing, wonderfully

00:28:27.049 --> 00:28:30.519
portrayed synthetics. And then the very first

00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:32.319
time we come across this synthetic play by Elle

00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.440
Fanning, and she is a cracking actress. She's

00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:40.420
really good. She's bubbly, high -spirited, verbal

00:28:40.420 --> 00:28:43.599
diarrhea going on. It's like, this is not what

00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:46.980
a synthetic would be like. And then you get Elle

00:28:46.980 --> 00:28:49.599
Fanning playing the other synthetic, her sister,

00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.299
as they call it by the end of it, who's then

00:28:52.299 --> 00:28:56.420
playing this more darker synthetic. And she still

00:28:56.420 --> 00:28:58.819
doesn't come across as a synthetic. She comes

00:28:58.819 --> 00:29:01.740
across as a human actress who's just playing

00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:07.220
a darker role. And it's not Elle Fanning's fault.

00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:09.980
The characters and how they've been written and

00:29:09.980 --> 00:29:13.599
they've been scripted do not work as synthetics.

00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.019
Yeah, that's a shame. It is a shame because the

00:29:17.019 --> 00:29:20.259
film does deserve to do really well. But for

00:29:20.259 --> 00:29:22.880
me, it just didn't work as a Predator franchise.

00:29:23.619 --> 00:29:26.119
Ignoring that and making it a sci -fi film, it

00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:28.539
would have done a lot better in my books. But

00:29:28.539 --> 00:29:32.180
that is personal opinion. And that's about it.

00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.099
I watched Predator 2 pretty much the day after

00:29:35.099 --> 00:29:37.200
because I wanted to see... To get over it, yeah.

00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.019
Well, no, not get over it, but it's Predator

00:29:40.019 --> 00:29:43.740
1 I've seen loads. Predator 2 is probably the

00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:45.700
least one I've seen. And I thought, you know

00:29:45.700 --> 00:29:47.789
what? I didn't... I've always watched it and

00:29:47.789 --> 00:29:50.369
I've never minded it, but I don't know why Predator

00:29:50.369 --> 00:29:52.890
1 gets way more watches to it. I'm just watching

00:29:52.890 --> 00:29:55.650
Predator 2 and actually I really enjoy it. I

00:29:55.650 --> 00:29:58.930
think I've only seen Predator 2 once. Yeah, it

00:29:58.930 --> 00:30:03.190
isn't as good as the first, granted, but it's

00:30:03.190 --> 00:30:06.009
a very different film. I don't particularly rate

00:30:06.009 --> 00:30:08.750
very highly any of the AVP films. Oh, they're

00:30:08.750 --> 00:30:14.730
all terrible. I will not watch them. And again...

00:30:15.180 --> 00:30:18.819
It just immediately breaks the law that you expect

00:30:18.819 --> 00:30:23.299
to exist from Predator 1 and Predator 2. A predator

00:30:23.299 --> 00:30:26.579
will not make friends with you to help you. A

00:30:26.579 --> 00:30:29.640
predator would rather die and claim the kill

00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.079
of you than do it. Yeah. And I get the idea from

00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.559
AVP that that happens quite a bit. Predators

00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:39.400
with Adrian Brody. which was kind of their one

00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:41.440
where these people get yeah that was an odd one

00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.180
yeah they've been captured and taken to the predator

00:30:44.180 --> 00:30:46.900
planet and hunted instead they rescue a predator

00:30:46.900 --> 00:30:49.900
who then helps them no that predator will go

00:30:49.900 --> 00:30:51.839
yeah thank you very much you've all got weapons

00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.599
brilliant kill kill kill kill kill right now

00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:57.779
i'm armed to fuck yeah that's it actually your

00:30:57.779 --> 00:31:01.019
memory for some i forgot that film existed predators

00:31:01.019 --> 00:31:05.299
yeah it's and then you've got the predator which

00:31:05.299 --> 00:31:07.660
came out fairly recently which was their modern

00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:10.079
predator film and i i don't know if i've seen

00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:13.500
it's awful absolutely awful they introduce that

00:31:13.500 --> 00:31:18.119
one of them gets given i don't even have a predator

00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.079
gives them it this box that they touch and suddenly

00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.279
it builds an entire predator suit on the person

00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.519
that touches it and then they become this kind

00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:31.150
of predator suited and person in oh it's terrible

00:31:31.150 --> 00:31:36.470
i wish yeah definitely anything else no honestly

00:31:36.470 --> 00:31:39.130
that that's been it nothing else except for event

00:31:39.130 --> 00:31:41.509
horizon well i'm glad you're like i'm glad you

00:31:41.509 --> 00:31:43.970
liked it but i did enjoy it it's just as i said

00:31:43.970 --> 00:31:46.650
it it shouldn't have been a franchise it should

00:31:46.650 --> 00:31:49.109
have just been its own thing and they could have

00:31:49.109 --> 00:31:52.710
probably put a bit more money into the design

00:31:52.710 --> 00:32:00.380
but it would have worked better yeah What have

00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:03.420
you been up to? I've actually prepared. I've

00:32:03.420 --> 00:32:06.759
got a list. I know. It's un -fucking -believable.

00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:08.980
He's got the Preparation H on and he's ready

00:32:08.980 --> 00:32:12.680
to go. I have Preparation H'd myself. So, in

00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:14.160
preparation for the new Stranger Things coming

00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.619
out, we've just literally, before you pulled

00:32:17.619 --> 00:32:21.259
up, we just finished Season 1 again. I forget

00:32:21.259 --> 00:32:24.029
how much I love that show. When you haven't seen,

00:32:24.049 --> 00:32:25.289
say to Marianne, when you haven't seen something

00:32:25.289 --> 00:32:27.250
in a long time, do you sometimes forget how much

00:32:27.250 --> 00:32:29.509
you like something? We've binged season one.

00:32:30.069 --> 00:32:35.089
So I've seen season one. I wasn't enamored with

00:32:35.089 --> 00:32:38.470
it. I don't know why. It just didn't touch me

00:32:38.470 --> 00:32:41.910
in the way that maybe David Harbour could have.

00:32:42.009 --> 00:32:46.089
I don't know. But then we got to the second one.

00:32:46.829 --> 00:32:50.650
it just felt so slow okay so painful and i we

00:32:50.650 --> 00:32:53.049
gave up halfway through there is one episode

00:32:53.049 --> 00:32:56.369
in season two which is awful fucking dreadful

00:32:56.369 --> 00:32:58.970
and it got panned at the time and if you look

00:32:58.970 --> 00:33:02.410
at imdb it's the only one that doesn't get eight

00:33:02.410 --> 00:33:06.009
or above in a score it gets six it's one where

00:33:06.009 --> 00:33:08.490
11 goes to new york or something and meets like

00:33:08.490 --> 00:33:11.109
a load of that's it yeah that's the season i'm

00:33:11.109 --> 00:33:14.140
on so you've got A couple of them bugger off

00:33:14.140 --> 00:33:17.059
to go and talk to the conspiracy nutcase radio

00:33:17.059 --> 00:33:18.880
jockey person. Who becomes a really good character

00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.759
in later seasons. And Levin has just decided,

00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:23.559
oh, my mother's still alive, so I'm going to

00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.400
go off to New York to find her there. And yeah,

00:33:26.420 --> 00:33:30.279
I was just so bored. It was just so boring. I

00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:33.019
think season one, let's say, let's just going

00:33:33.019 --> 00:33:35.819
on a chart, let's use Kay's terminology, peak.

00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.029
Season one, absolutely brilliant. season two

00:33:40.029 --> 00:33:42.029
because of that one episode i can't remember

00:33:42.029 --> 00:33:45.089
which episode it is now it has to go down that

00:33:45.089 --> 00:33:48.450
episode you can actually skip it you don't lose

00:33:48.450 --> 00:33:50.869
any genuinely you do not lose anything by missing

00:33:50.869 --> 00:33:52.750
the episode in fact you'll probably have a better

00:33:52.750 --> 00:33:56.549
time it's like i i've watched all of naruto um

00:33:56.549 --> 00:34:00.490
unleashed and shippuden and we used a guide to

00:34:00.490 --> 00:34:04.150
know what episodes to skip because because it

00:34:04.150 --> 00:34:08.889
follows the it follows the manga but um it was

00:34:08.889 --> 00:34:10.909
releasing weekly and the manga wasn't released

00:34:10.909 --> 00:34:14.869
that often so when there was no manga released

00:34:14.869 --> 00:34:18.329
the writers of the show had to fill so they would

00:34:18.329 --> 00:34:20.409
do their own story arcs and they're pretty shit

00:34:20.409 --> 00:34:23.869
a lot of them so people found out which episodes

00:34:23.869 --> 00:34:25.869
are filler and which episodes are canon and they

00:34:25.869 --> 00:34:28.550
literally listed it down so you can go through

00:34:28.550 --> 00:34:31.329
and just skip quite a few episodes because they

00:34:31.329 --> 00:34:33.849
have no relevance to the canon and you can tell

00:34:33.849 --> 00:34:38.090
because the canon stuff is far superior to the

00:34:38.090 --> 00:34:42.389
filler. Copilot says Episode 7, The Lost Sister.

00:34:42.510 --> 00:34:44.130
That's the one. In Season 2 of Stranger Things,

00:34:44.210 --> 00:34:46.409
you can skip Episode 7, The Lost Sister. This

00:34:46.409 --> 00:34:50.289
episode is often considered disruptive. It focuses

00:34:50.289 --> 00:34:52.289
on Eleven's journey and character development,

00:34:52.510 --> 00:34:55.590
which some viewers find unnecessary. It is unnecessary.

00:34:55.650 --> 00:34:58.829
It's pointless. It's terrible. It adds nothing

00:34:58.829 --> 00:35:02.070
other than an annoyance to the season. As I was

00:35:02.070 --> 00:35:05.510
saying, number one, peak. Drops. Has to drop

00:35:05.510 --> 00:35:08.260
because of that. Three. keeps about the level

00:35:08.260 --> 00:35:11.840
four steps right up again okay what a great season

00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.679
four is particularly there's a character who

00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:16.920
like plays loads of metal music four's the master

00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:20.059
of puppets season what a great season four is

00:35:20.059 --> 00:35:22.719
and now we're just waiting for five so i'm really

00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.139
hoping five's gonna live up to what four left

00:35:25.139 --> 00:35:29.980
ask what the last episode of season four absolutely

00:35:29.980 --> 00:35:31.820
brilliant loved it if you like stranger things

00:35:31.820 --> 00:35:34.659
season four is great well maybe i'll go back

00:35:34.659 --> 00:35:37.610
and give it another try but i found we found

00:35:37.610 --> 00:35:42.389
season two a slog as me and jim were watching

00:35:42.389 --> 00:35:45.409
it together yeah and we we found season two a

00:35:45.409 --> 00:35:47.730
slog and she was willing to carry on as i really

00:35:47.730 --> 00:35:49.869
don't care if you carry on without me on this

00:35:49.869 --> 00:35:53.889
which isn't normal normally after such a strong

00:35:53.889 --> 00:35:57.760
season one it just yeah I don't know. Maybe,

00:35:57.920 --> 00:35:59.579
yeah, we'll give it another try. I think if you

00:35:59.579 --> 00:36:01.900
can, I mean, you should never really say, oh,

00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.880
if you can get through a whole season, it gets

00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.019
good. But that is kind of the case. I might just

00:36:06.019 --> 00:36:09.380
skip season two. You should watch the last episode.

00:36:10.300 --> 00:36:12.260
Okay. You should watch the last episode of all

00:36:12.260 --> 00:36:13.500
of them if you're going to be skipping seasons

00:36:13.500 --> 00:36:15.139
because you do need to understand what's going

00:36:15.139 --> 00:36:17.780
to happen. ChatGPC, fill me in on what happens

00:36:17.780 --> 00:36:20.920
between season two, episode one, and episode

00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:24.260
X. Give me a synopsis of season two minus episode

00:36:24.260 --> 00:36:27.409
seven. Next thing we've been watching, we're

00:36:27.409 --> 00:36:30.769
two episodes in. Welcome to Derry. Right then.

00:36:30.829 --> 00:36:35.269
Welcome to Spoiler Town Population. You. If you

00:36:35.269 --> 00:36:38.829
don't want any spoilers, even the heavily redacted

00:36:38.829 --> 00:36:42.829
ones ahead, please skip to 44 minutes and 46

00:36:42.829 --> 00:36:47.800
seconds. Thank you. which is the It prequel.

00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.039
I hadn't heard about this. And then you started

00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:51.840
talking about it. Then Karen started talking

00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.639
about it. I've seen some clips of it now. Don't

00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:56.360
watch clips. No, don't watch clips. It will ruin

00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:58.519
it. I'm never going to watch it because I don't

00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.500
like It. I think it was a crap, awful film. Watch

00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:07.900
nothing of it because the shock factor of the

00:37:07.900 --> 00:37:13.760
gruesome children death scenes is horrific. I've

00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.610
never been so... appalled and enamored and just

00:37:17.610 --> 00:37:19.309
like what the fuck is going we were literally

00:37:19.309 --> 00:37:21.949
miranda and i had no idea it was going to be

00:37:21.949 --> 00:37:24.909
the way it was because you get the you get the

00:37:24.909 --> 00:37:27.530
shock factors in films films are the ones like

00:37:27.530 --> 00:37:29.969
in the first hit where you see the kid get his

00:37:29.969 --> 00:37:32.909
arms bitten off yeah you know you're kind of

00:37:32.909 --> 00:37:34.949
expecting a film you're not expecting it in a

00:37:34.949 --> 00:37:39.590
series like i'm gonna say now spoilers for everybody

00:37:39.590 --> 00:37:42.860
i might have to put valentino in here to tell

00:37:42.860 --> 00:37:44.519
you where to skip to because if you're not going

00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.039
to watch it i'll tell you yeah no yeah go for

00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:49.380
it okay so everyone else get ready if you don't

00:37:49.380 --> 00:37:51.960
want to be spoiled because this will spoil because

00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.280
i'm just going to say the gory bits i'm not going

00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:56.079
to tell a plot but i think that if you are willing

00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:59.139
to watch the show don't you don't want to know

00:37:59.139 --> 00:38:01.500
these because you want the shock factor because

00:38:01.500 --> 00:38:03.599
i'm i'm one of the few people that preferred

00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.789
the tim curry yet Okay. I haven't seen them since

00:38:06.789 --> 00:38:08.349
I was a kid. I don't remember them very well.

00:38:08.349 --> 00:38:10.889
The two modern ones were all that, if I'm honest.

00:38:11.030 --> 00:38:13.289
That is the one where they're in the Chinese

00:38:13.289 --> 00:38:15.469
restaurant and it turns into a monster, like

00:38:15.469 --> 00:38:17.989
insects and scorpions and stuff. I believe so,

00:38:18.050 --> 00:38:21.269
yeah. And then you've got Tim Curry's... That's

00:38:21.269 --> 00:38:24.469
the only bit I remember as a kid. It terrified

00:38:24.469 --> 00:38:26.989
me. I watched it in my parents' room. It was

00:38:26.989 --> 00:38:28.730
where I watched Jaws. Same time I watched Jaws.

00:38:28.889 --> 00:38:32.590
Nice. And they had this blue carpet and I was

00:38:32.590 --> 00:38:35.300
so scared. I thought the carpet was... the sea

00:38:35.300 --> 00:38:37.519
and i had to jump off their bed into the hallway

00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.219
oh dear that's how scared i was the jaws anyway

00:38:40.219 --> 00:38:42.260
that's probably where my fear of sharks comes

00:38:42.260 --> 00:38:46.000
from and breasts and breasts yeah my fear of

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.380
my fear of breasts again it's another one of

00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:50.679
those films that we've all watched when it was

00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:55.579
on the uh oh what when the pre -watershed version

00:38:55.579 --> 00:38:57.699
and then you watch jaws for the first time yeah

00:38:57.699 --> 00:39:05.960
and then when you watch the actual by this young

00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.800
lad. Now, these are kids who are age ranging

00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.360
from one kid is five. It got to be about, no,

00:39:13.420 --> 00:39:15.079
no, no, no, no, no. It's too young, actually.

00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.900
Maybe seven. Oh, thank God. I thought you were

00:39:17.900 --> 00:39:20.500
rating them. One kid was a five. No, no. And

00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:24.539
the other kids, the other kids are like 12. Anywhere

00:39:24.539 --> 00:39:27.320
between 12 and maybe 14. That's the kind of age

00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.519
of kids we're looking at. They all look super

00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.280
young. I think 14 might actually be a bit old.

00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.519
Anyway, so this little, this lad. I can't remember

00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.699
exactly why, but he's on his own. He's leaving.

00:39:37.860 --> 00:39:41.719
He hitchhikes, get in this car. Seems like a

00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:43.840
normal family. Mum, dad, the woman's pregnant

00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.800
and two kids in the back. The son's doing like

00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.619
a spelling bee with the parents and then the

00:39:49.619 --> 00:39:52.579
girl starts getting annoyed and the mum and dad

00:39:52.579 --> 00:39:55.400
are talking and stuff. And it all starts to get

00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:59.039
a bit fucked up. And then the kids start spelling

00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.340
out fucked up words. And the girl in the middle,

00:40:02.420 --> 00:40:04.400
suddenly the thing she was eating looked like.

00:40:04.619 --> 00:40:06.860
kind of starts to look like beetroots but then

00:40:06.860 --> 00:40:08.900
it's actually blood and looks like body parts

00:40:08.900 --> 00:40:11.559
she's eating and then the woman in the front

00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:15.000
seat who's pregnant starts giving birth horrifically

00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:18.519
giving birth and it's a close -up shot between

00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:21.579
her legs and you see something pushing out of

00:40:21.579 --> 00:40:25.039
her vagina through her pants blood starts flowing

00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:27.559
and then this creature rips itself out of her

00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.900
vagina Okay, I'm just going to skip some of this.

00:40:33.420 --> 00:40:35.900
And people won't watch us do soggy biscuits.

00:40:36.219 --> 00:40:39.000
Yeah. And this is the first five minutes. This

00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:40.880
happens immediately. Immediately this happens.

00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:43.579
What the fucking hell are we watching? This doesn't

00:40:43.579 --> 00:40:46.940
make any sense. What I'm thinking is going to

00:40:46.940 --> 00:40:48.639
be happening is there's two of these per episode.

00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:51.340
Just basing on the knowledge that I've seen two

00:40:51.340 --> 00:40:53.320
episodes and there's two traumatic events happening

00:40:53.320 --> 00:41:08.730
in each episode. Kills them. Kills the children.

00:41:08.849 --> 00:41:12.809
It picks one of the boys up. rips them in half

00:41:12.809 --> 00:41:15.309
in the air in front of you. You see him get ripped

00:41:15.309 --> 00:41:18.369
from head straight down in half. You see, I'm

00:41:18.369 --> 00:41:20.150
starting to have a problem with this already

00:41:20.150 --> 00:41:23.110
because to me, this is up there with things.

00:41:23.170 --> 00:41:25.969
The way you're describing it, it's ending up

00:41:25.969 --> 00:41:29.250
like hostile, which is just, it's being done

00:41:29.250 --> 00:41:33.929
to see. How horrific it can make it before people

00:41:33.929 --> 00:41:36.309
start walking out and going, yeah, no, I can't

00:41:36.309 --> 00:41:38.730
watch that. I think Hostel really is gratuitous

00:41:38.730 --> 00:41:41.309
violence. I don't think there's any redeeming

00:41:41.309 --> 00:41:45.050
features to Saw 2. That's a lie. To anything

00:41:45.050 --> 00:41:48.929
past Saw 1. Saw 1 is very good. Oh, I think Saw

00:41:48.929 --> 00:41:51.030
2 is good as well. I don't really remember Saw

00:41:51.030 --> 00:41:53.190
2, but I generally think Saw 1 is actually a

00:41:53.190 --> 00:41:55.150
good film. Oh, I do. I think it's a brilliant

00:41:55.150 --> 00:41:57.190
film. Hostel, there's no redeeming features to

00:41:57.190 --> 00:41:59.570
Hostel. That is literally just... Here's killing

00:41:59.570 --> 00:42:03.929
people. Whereas this is... Because, you know,

00:42:03.969 --> 00:42:08.170
it's a horror. And it's a monster doing it. And

00:42:08.170 --> 00:42:10.349
it just shows you. I mean, if I was going to

00:42:10.349 --> 00:42:12.170
imagine, which obviously I wouldn't, a child

00:42:12.170 --> 00:42:13.650
getting ripped in half, that's kind of pretty

00:42:13.650 --> 00:42:15.369
much what I think it would look like. I don't

00:42:15.369 --> 00:42:17.550
think that they're just shoving it in your face.

00:42:17.650 --> 00:42:20.449
But that's my problem. I don't need to see that.

00:42:20.530 --> 00:42:23.050
How much do you see of it? You see the entire

00:42:23.050 --> 00:42:26.929
thing. Exactly. And for me, I'm not a prude.

00:42:26.949 --> 00:42:30.039
I don't have a problem with gore. I just don't

00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.659
think it's necessary to show that. Now, a really

00:42:32.659 --> 00:42:35.619
good point is we watched Smile 2 last week, me

00:42:35.619 --> 00:42:37.800
and Gemma, I forgot to say that. And in Smile

00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.500
2, there are some genuinely grotesque things

00:42:40.500 --> 00:42:45.239
that happen. You see them for no more than two

00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.400
seconds at a time. It cuts away, yeah. But there's

00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.159
enough for you to go, oh my God, that was gross.

00:42:49.739 --> 00:42:52.519
And it lasts with you, but not enough for you

00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.179
to go, I'm going to have to start looking away

00:42:55.179 --> 00:42:58.099
from this. I found it difficult because the children,

00:42:58.670 --> 00:43:01.710
And I wonder if I wouldn't feel that way if I

00:43:01.710 --> 00:43:04.170
didn't have a child myself. And there's a particular

00:43:04.170 --> 00:43:06.630
bit in that Cinnabar bit, there's a very small

00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:10.210
kid who is like a little bit older than what

00:43:10.210 --> 00:43:13.989
my T would be. And she's hiding underneath the

00:43:13.989 --> 00:43:16.269
seats. And there's an older girl holding her

00:43:16.269 --> 00:43:18.190
hands. It's like, it's okay, it's okay. And like

00:43:18.190 --> 00:43:22.710
her, is it her brother? Well, yeah, her, one

00:43:22.710 --> 00:43:24.429
of the boys has been killed and then her brother

00:43:24.429 --> 00:43:27.289
gets killed. And she is like, obviously fucked

00:43:27.289 --> 00:43:31.599
up. And then the next thing you see is the older

00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:33.719
girl running out with the projector's girl. And

00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:35.980
it ends by the camera going down and the older

00:43:35.980 --> 00:43:38.340
girl is holding the little girl's arm. Oh, fuck.

00:43:38.420 --> 00:43:40.159
Because the little girl's gone. And that's how

00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:42.440
the episode ends. And then episode two starts

00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:48.280
back at that scene. And you then see what happens

00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:50.340
to that little girl's brother. He gets thrown

00:43:50.340 --> 00:43:53.519
up into the sky and splats against where the

00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:55.800
projector screen is. And you see him. It's almost

00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.380
quite comical. slides down. You still again don't

00:44:00.380 --> 00:44:02.000
see what happens to the little girl. Thank fucking

00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:09.400
God. And then after that... Oh God, shut the

00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:23.500
fuck up. With all these teeth. like gnawing at

00:44:23.500 --> 00:44:25.840
her and then suddenly you see an umbilical cord

00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.840
and it's attached to the girl and it's dragging

00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:35.699
her into this toothed vagina i wish everyone

00:44:35.699 --> 00:44:38.739
could see tj i've spent 15 minutes talking about

00:44:38.739 --> 00:44:41.619
these two episodes my genuine point is i just

00:44:41.619 --> 00:44:44.079
don't feel that there's any and i know we're

00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:48.219
about to talk about event horizon um right Cut

00:44:48.219 --> 00:44:53.059
point now. Clap. Make noises on the thing. Spoilers

00:44:53.059 --> 00:44:55.039
over. Right. Okay. Spoilers over. Thank you,

00:44:55.059 --> 00:44:56.980
Valentina. Yeah, I just feel that there's no

00:44:56.980 --> 00:45:00.039
need to go that horrific and graphic in anything.

00:45:01.380 --> 00:45:03.900
I mean, maybe that works for some people. For

00:45:03.900 --> 00:45:08.320
me, like you said, smile is perfect. That sort

00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:11.219
of horror where you've got this psychological

00:45:11.219 --> 00:45:16.360
kind of basis going on. Yeah, yeah. And for me,

00:45:16.380 --> 00:45:20.239
sometimes it's the unseen that plays far more

00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:24.820
into how a film and how a horror should be. And

00:45:24.820 --> 00:45:27.519
we talked about it in Nope. The soundscape in

00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.699
Nope when the alien is above the house screaming

00:45:30.699 --> 00:45:34.260
and it's raining blood is genuinely terrifying.

00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.420
Yeah, I just... I'm going to keep watching it,

00:45:39.500 --> 00:45:45.599
but I've got to say it is pretty... Pretty gruesome.

00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.179
Let's move on because it's been ages. Yeah, I

00:45:48.179 --> 00:45:51.739
was just going to say, not because it reminded

00:45:51.739 --> 00:45:54.500
me of it, I was just thinking, what other horror

00:45:54.500 --> 00:45:56.480
films have I seen that I've kind of loved? Other

00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:58.079
than the Smile series, the other one I saw fairly

00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.159
recently, and it turns out it's six years ago,

00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.940
so it's not fairly recent, was Scary Stories

00:46:03.940 --> 00:46:06.840
to Tell in the Dark. Okay. And that had some,

00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:11.090
again, it was a... horror style film but they

00:46:11.090 --> 00:46:13.449
didn't go over the top with it and actually the

00:46:13.449 --> 00:46:15.809
bits they did in it played out really nicely

00:46:15.809 --> 00:46:19.730
yeah and that's well worth watching but um I

00:46:19.730 --> 00:46:22.750
mean I'll give it a try but honestly it just

00:46:22.750 --> 00:46:26.489
sounds too much for me anyway yeah um Frankenstein's

00:46:26.489 --> 00:46:28.869
just been released Guillermo del Toro looks amazing

00:46:28.869 --> 00:46:31.070
desperate to watch it Miranda wants to watch

00:46:31.070 --> 00:46:32.610
Stranger Things first we're going to have to

00:46:32.610 --> 00:46:33.869
go all the way all the strange things before

00:46:33.869 --> 00:46:35.809
we can watch that I'm so desperate to watch it

00:46:35.809 --> 00:46:38.039
it looks brilliant It's on Netflix if anyone's

00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:43.920
interested. The Witcher, season four. I think

00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.840
I've spoken about The Witcher before. I'm super

00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:48.159
into the books. I've read all the books. I'm

00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:49.800
into the games. You've sent me some choice words

00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:53.599
about this season so far. Yeah, I've played The

00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.000
Witcher 2 to death, played The Witcher 3 to death,

00:46:56.139 --> 00:46:58.079
other than Blood and Wine expansion and never

00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.260
did it. I'm probably going to play it now that

00:47:00.260 --> 00:47:01.780
I've got a computer that can run The Witcher.

00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:10.210
So I've got to say, I'm going to, I, it's difficult

00:47:10.210 --> 00:47:14.210
to say. I didn't hate it. So we actually ended

00:47:14.210 --> 00:47:18.110
up binging it. Now, is it as good as season one,

00:47:18.150 --> 00:47:20.789
two and three? No. Season one is the best one

00:47:20.789 --> 00:47:24.269
and it never recovers. Put that out there straight

00:47:24.269 --> 00:47:27.750
away. Okay. And there was nothing, even Henry

00:47:27.750 --> 00:47:32.050
Cavill, who was by all accounts, the only person

00:47:32.050 --> 00:47:35.920
trying to keep it on the source material. could

00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.940
do. And that's one of the reasons why he left.

00:47:38.019 --> 00:47:41.119
But it's come out that the CEO of Netflix has

00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:44.300
made an apology to Henry Cavill publicly. They

00:47:44.300 --> 00:47:49.320
lost $20 million just after the trailer release

00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.039
of season four. They lost $20 million. I don't

00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.599
know how that's possible. Maybe people pulled

00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.159
out or they're expecting advertising bills and

00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:02.869
stuff. CEO has come out asking the writers of

00:48:02.869 --> 00:48:05.010
the show to also publicly apologise to Cavill

00:48:05.010 --> 00:48:06.829
because they were apparently scathing of him.

00:48:07.349 --> 00:48:10.429
So this is the problem. You upset the people

00:48:10.429 --> 00:48:12.909
that like Cavill. Whether or not you think he's

00:48:12.909 --> 00:48:16.269
good or not, the bloke has clout. The fact the

00:48:16.269 --> 00:48:20.760
bloke during COVID... set up and did live streaming

00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.500
of him painting warhammer figures which then

00:48:23.500 --> 00:48:27.079
in turn boosted warhammer i mean games workshop

00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.679
whatever they're called nowadays that the amount

00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.340
of money they bought in the fact that he then

00:48:32.340 --> 00:48:35.039
just helped join me while i build a gaming pc

00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:39.059
that made people go oh my god he is a normal

00:48:39.059 --> 00:48:42.260
bloke as well and then then these companies started

00:48:42.260 --> 00:48:44.219
taking them away from the franchises they like

00:48:44.219 --> 00:48:49.989
what were they thinking it's so He was fantastic

00:48:49.989 --> 00:48:56.869
as Geralt. Really good. He was clearly portraying

00:48:56.869 --> 00:49:01.050
the games version, but inside, obviously, the

00:49:01.050 --> 00:49:03.110
stories of mainly the book. I mean, the games

00:49:03.110 --> 00:49:04.530
do follow the book. Anyway, it's complicated.

00:49:05.050 --> 00:49:11.030
And Liam Hemsworth, he is a good Geralt. He absolutely

00:49:11.030 --> 00:49:14.409
is, and I'm giving all props to that. But to

00:49:14.409 --> 00:49:19.130
be following from... Henry Cavill, it's not the

00:49:19.130 --> 00:49:22.269
same. Had it been Liam all the way through, it

00:49:22.269 --> 00:49:25.090
wouldn't have been a problem. And he is good

00:49:25.090 --> 00:49:27.349
in his own right, and he's doing the management

00:49:27.349 --> 00:49:30.969
right, and great. But unfortunately for him,

00:49:31.050 --> 00:49:35.610
he's been shoved into this, I say it all the

00:49:35.610 --> 00:49:36.829
time, people are going, I'm going to get a council

00:49:36.829 --> 00:49:41.750
one day, this complete... Disneyfication, Netflixfication,

00:49:41.750 --> 00:49:46.610
agenda -filled bullshit story. They had the perfect

00:49:46.610 --> 00:49:52.210
story to do. And, like, they even, like, the

00:49:52.210 --> 00:49:56.670
writer, idiocy of him, he didn't, he gave all

00:49:56.670 --> 00:49:59.989
the rights away to them without any ability to

00:49:59.989 --> 00:50:01.989
have any control over himself. He's a fucking

00:50:01.989 --> 00:50:04.170
idiot. He's done it twice. He did the same thing

00:50:04.170 --> 00:50:07.719
to the guys who did the games. to cd product

00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.139
red i mean they did a good job with it but he

00:50:10.139 --> 00:50:12.139
didn't even take a revenue spit or anything he's

00:50:12.139 --> 00:50:13.900
a fucking idiot he just took a bit of money and

00:50:13.900 --> 00:50:15.579
he was like there you go he doesn't realize what

00:50:15.579 --> 00:50:18.079
he's got you know and he did the same thing is

00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.380
it he doesn't know what he's got or is it that

00:50:20.380 --> 00:50:23.739
he wanted to make sure that if he wasn't greedy

00:50:23.739 --> 00:50:26.019
the game would stand a better chance and the

00:50:26.019 --> 00:50:29.199
tv series would have a chance of going out there

00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:33.769
he just it he said he used to give them like

00:50:33.769 --> 00:50:35.489
they apparently in season one they used to ask

00:50:35.489 --> 00:50:37.730
him he said this new view they used to ask him

00:50:37.730 --> 00:50:40.389
for advice and the niv used to follow it anyway

00:50:40.389 --> 00:50:42.530
to the point that then they stopped he stopped

00:50:42.530 --> 00:50:45.389
they stopped asking and he stopped giving and

00:50:45.389 --> 00:50:46.869
he's like i'm just letting them get on with it

00:50:46.869 --> 00:50:49.309
just whatever he's kind of washed his hands with

00:50:49.309 --> 00:50:52.929
it uh if you even remotely like anything to do

00:50:52.929 --> 00:50:55.110
with the witcher play the games read the books

00:50:55.110 --> 00:50:57.989
if you give a shit about the story that aside

00:50:57.989 --> 00:51:02.400
i think it's a little bit unfair that the reviews

00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:05.699
are all like four on imdb he's not that bad it's

00:51:05.699 --> 00:51:07.920
been review bombed which is never a good thing

00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:14.619
it isn't that bad they are making it the series

00:51:14.619 --> 00:51:18.739
story but i in my opinion one of the arcs of

00:51:18.739 --> 00:51:21.599
the witcher series is like two or three of the

00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.699
books are quite heavily focused on her as like

00:51:24.699 --> 00:51:28.380
the savior of the kind of universe and it's like

00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.699
And she's a wicked character to play in the game.

00:51:30.820 --> 00:51:32.739
I like playing her better than I like playing

00:51:32.739 --> 00:51:34.500
Geralt. I'm actually really excited that the

00:51:34.500 --> 00:51:36.739
next Witcher game you play is her and not Geralt.

00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:38.820
Not because I like Geralt, but she's a fucking

00:51:38.820 --> 00:51:41.800
wicked character. Imagine playing, if anyone

00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:43.820
has played The Witcher, you are The Witcher.

00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.840
You amazing swords person. You get to kill monsters.

00:51:46.900 --> 00:51:49.400
You have these powers. But she's the same as

00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.320
that. But also, she's got like these weird lightning

00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:54.159
powers and she can move really quick and do all

00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:55.260
these other cool stuff. And it's just fucking

00:51:55.260 --> 00:51:58.010
cool. Anyway, she's a very cool character. but

00:51:58.010 --> 00:52:00.730
i just think they've just done a the writing

00:52:00.730 --> 00:52:04.510
of that isn't isn't very good the fighting really

00:52:04.510 --> 00:52:07.010
fucking cool you can tell liam hemsworth is really

00:52:07.010 --> 00:52:10.230
good at it he was in it way more than the intro

00:52:10.230 --> 00:52:12.630
implied he was going to be because they as i

00:52:12.630 --> 00:52:14.630
said to you they refilmed a lot of the henry

00:52:14.630 --> 00:52:16.849
cavill stuff and just put him there yeah they

00:52:16.849 --> 00:52:21.010
did like they did a a you know, previously on

00:52:21.010 --> 00:52:23.289
the last three seasons and every short Henry

00:52:23.289 --> 00:52:25.190
Cavill's from his back. You never see his face.

00:52:25.289 --> 00:52:27.530
And I was like, come on guys, fucking hell. Just,

00:52:27.570 --> 00:52:31.829
just pretend that you haven't changed the actor.

00:52:31.929 --> 00:52:35.010
Just pretend. Just, it's not, I doubt Henry Cavill

00:52:35.010 --> 00:52:37.570
said you can't use my likeness. I cannot, I just

00:52:37.570 --> 00:52:40.869
cannot fathom unless there's something that's

00:52:40.869 --> 00:52:44.329
not come out that Henry Cavill was just an absolute

00:52:44.329 --> 00:52:47.409
monster on set, touched all the women and all

00:52:47.409 --> 00:52:52.579
of that. Then, I just cannot fathom why you would

00:52:52.579 --> 00:52:56.599
recast. Even if it was, okay, well, he's filming

00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:59.199
something at the moment. Okay, we'll delay our

00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:03.519
filming. Our fans love him. They didn't recast.

00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:07.780
He left because they treated him like shit. So

00:53:07.780 --> 00:53:11.039
he pulled out. I thought they recast him, which

00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:13.239
is why he walked away. He couldn't agree with

00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:14.980
them because he was trying to keep them to the

00:53:14.980 --> 00:53:16.500
source material and they were basically saying,

00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:19.510
fuck off. So they treated, that's why the CEO

00:53:19.510 --> 00:53:20.909
has come out and said, you need to apologize

00:53:20.909 --> 00:53:23.610
to him because he was trying to keep you guys

00:53:23.610 --> 00:53:25.030
in check. He was trying to keep it. And he fucked

00:53:25.030 --> 00:53:27.429
off. And that would explain the money for them

00:53:27.429 --> 00:53:29.090
because people have gone, well, this isn't the

00:53:29.090 --> 00:53:32.010
Witcher anymore. Yeah. And that's how I said

00:53:32.010 --> 00:53:33.550
to Miranda that this is how I'm treating it.

00:53:34.010 --> 00:53:36.269
We were on like episode four at the time. I said,

00:53:36.309 --> 00:53:39.550
I'm just treating this now as it's just a fantasy

00:53:39.550 --> 00:53:42.570
show. I like fantasy. I'm just going to pretend

00:53:42.570 --> 00:53:45.059
it's not the Witcher. They can say The Witcher

00:53:45.059 --> 00:53:47.579
as much as they fucking like. In my head canon,

00:53:47.780 --> 00:53:50.800
this show is not The Witcher. And as soon as

00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.519
I made that change in my head, I actually enjoyed

00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:57.360
it. Yeah. They've killed a character who is an

00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.219
extremely important character in the storyline

00:54:00.219 --> 00:54:02.920
they're doing. I have no fucking clue how they're

00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:06.900
actually going to... Resolve it. There's a bit

00:54:06.900 --> 00:54:08.920
called The Wild Hunts that happens where this

00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:16.780
spiritual kind of... I can't remember exactly

00:54:16.780 --> 00:54:19.579
what they do, but Geralt joins them for a little

00:54:19.579 --> 00:54:22.280
while. And there's a bit where I don't want to

00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:23.079
say the character's name because I don't want

00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:24.119
to spoil it for people who don't want to watch

00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:25.920
it. There's another character that's quite heavily

00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.480
involved in that. He's now fucking dead. So I

00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:30.360
don't know how they're going to do that. I think

00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:31.500
they're probably just not going to do it. I think

00:54:31.500 --> 00:54:32.559
they're going to do one more season and then

00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:35.820
that'll be it. Yeah, from the start. There's

00:54:35.820 --> 00:54:37.519
these characters called the Rats who Ciri goes

00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:42.070
with. I hated them in the books. and i hated

00:54:42.070 --> 00:54:44.690
them in this too and i was so glad all the shit

00:54:44.690 --> 00:54:46.329
that happened to them there's a real you know

00:54:46.329 --> 00:54:49.730
who's in it the guy from district nine oh okay

00:54:49.730 --> 00:54:52.210
yeah he's in it he plays a bad guy he is the

00:54:52.210 --> 00:54:54.449
best fucking character in the entire season and

00:54:54.449 --> 00:54:56.349
it's such a shame that they they didn't use him

00:54:56.349 --> 00:54:58.769
before with with henry cavill they're using him

00:54:58.769 --> 00:55:01.489
now and he is the savior of all the scenes that

00:55:01.489 --> 00:55:05.099
have the rats in and He's such a good bad guy.

00:55:05.260 --> 00:55:07.199
He's really good at fighting. He's brilliant.

00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:09.000
That's enough of The Witcher. Sorry, I've gone

00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:10.719
on for 25 minutes. I've still got more to talk

00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:14.519
about. 25 minutes, no. It's my show. It's his

00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:18.239
show. It's his show. Look, you can be horrible

00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:21.599
and treat me like shit on your show. I get to

00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:26.639
say what I like over here. Noted. Played a lot

00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:29.780
of Wii games with T. Well, yes, I saw him playing

00:55:29.780 --> 00:55:31.440
Mario Kart the other day. Yeah, we did Mario

00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:35.239
Kart Wii. We've also played a little bit of Disney

00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:38.659
Infinity 3 .0. Never played any of those. They're

00:55:38.659 --> 00:55:42.880
all right. The figures are cool looking. There's

00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:44.460
so much of it that's not compatible. It's such

00:55:44.460 --> 00:55:46.559
bullshit of the time. There's no wonder it all

00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:49.960
failed. You can put the 2 .0 figures onto the

00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.199
3 .0 game, but you also get these little figures

00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:56.380
which make the toy box change. You can't put

00:55:56.380 --> 00:55:59.679
2 .0 toy boxes into 3 .0. They're just like,

00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:04.170
no. But it's not like there's clearly no reason

00:56:04.170 --> 00:56:06.030
other than they just didn't want you to do it.

00:56:06.730 --> 00:56:09.170
And the same like with the Skylanders one, that's

00:56:09.170 --> 00:56:12.150
clearly why they failed because they were clearly

00:56:12.150 --> 00:56:14.349
just out for money. I mean, I just brought him

00:56:14.349 --> 00:56:19.369
the figure. He doesn't know the Jack Skeleton

00:56:19.369 --> 00:56:21.829
figure for it because my two pound on eBay. So

00:56:21.829 --> 00:56:23.570
next time he plays it, I'm going to go, you can

00:56:23.570 --> 00:56:25.670
be Jack Skeleton and he'll be able to run around

00:56:25.670 --> 00:56:29.030
as Jack Skeleton. That's very cool. There's nothing

00:56:29.030 --> 00:56:31.840
to do. Because the Jack Skellington's a 2 .0

00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:33.880
figure. So he can't actually do anything other

00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:35.980
than make his character Jack Skellington. He

00:56:35.980 --> 00:56:38.440
can't go to the Jack Skellington toy box, which

00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:41.900
is a shame. I've played a lot of Steam Deck.

00:56:42.019 --> 00:56:44.699
I've been playing random games, trying out different

00:56:44.699 --> 00:56:47.619
things. Played a little bit of Outer Worlds 2.

00:56:47.900 --> 00:56:49.699
It's all right. Played about five minutes. Don't

00:56:49.699 --> 00:56:51.280
know what else to say. Played another game of

00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.960
Battlefield. I did quite good on it. And then

00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:56.380
I haven't played it again. Just doing so many

00:56:56.380 --> 00:56:59.679
other little things. Haven't done it. Got rid

00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:01.679
of Sky. Don't have Sky anymore. We're doing Now

00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:04.739
TV. So much cheaper. No more free cinema tickets.

00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:08.400
No, I'm afraid not. Don't have it anymore. It's

00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:12.679
fine. Can I just say, GTA 6 delayed again. Delayed

00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:14.980
again. Yeah, I mean, I'm not bothered. I mean,

00:57:15.019 --> 00:57:18.059
was you bothered? I didn't even realise it was

00:57:18.059 --> 00:57:18.960
coming out when it was. I'm genuinely not going

00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.699
to buy it. I'll download it when it goes onto

00:57:21.699 --> 00:57:24.099
the Xbox Game Pass or the PlayStation Game Pass.

00:57:24.219 --> 00:57:28.139
I am not going to buy GTA 6. probably will get

00:57:28.139 --> 00:57:29.960
it eventually. I don't know. I'm playing GTA

00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:32.239
2 at the moment and having a fuckload of fun.

00:57:32.460 --> 00:57:35.940
If it's going to be £100, I'm not going to fucking

00:57:35.940 --> 00:57:38.340
buy it. Why would I do that? All the other fucking

00:57:38.340 --> 00:57:40.679
games I can buy. There's so many cool little

00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:42.139
games out there on Steam that are worth like

00:57:42.139 --> 00:57:46.300
£3. Peak is £3 at the moment. That game looks

00:57:46.300 --> 00:57:52.079
fun. We've got to play Peak. £3. Oh, right. I'll

00:57:52.079 --> 00:58:00.440
buy it. Accessing library computer data. So we

00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:02.340
do actually like each other, everybody. We just

00:58:02.340 --> 00:58:05.539
tease each other. Oh, absolutely. He teases me

00:58:05.539 --> 00:58:08.179
with his tip and I tease him with mine. Right,

00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:11.199
Event Horizon. Event Horizon 1997. Oh, so good.

00:58:11.260 --> 00:58:13.519
Another good film. Yeah, great film. End of episode.

00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.519
Yeah, well done. It's been long enough. It's

00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.079
so nice when we watch good stuff and it's been

00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:22.039
such a long time. I don't know now if I've ever

00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.760
seen the film. all the way through. Because the

00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:27.760
first bit... Oh, you must have. It's the bit

00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:34.239
just before they do the bit with Sam Neill talking

00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:37.079
about folding the paper and going through. That

00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.500
little bit before that, I struggle to remember

00:58:39.500 --> 00:58:41.480
any of it. All the rest of it I remembered, but

00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:44.639
just the bit before. It's not important. It's

00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:46.559
not important, so you don't switch on for it.

00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:51.789
You forget how good a... cast it is as well not

00:58:51.789 --> 00:58:53.809
just lawrence fishburne but sam neill as well

00:58:53.809 --> 00:58:58.750
who you've just got to love his kind of acting

00:58:58.750 --> 00:59:00.610
style for anything whether it's dress it park

00:59:00.610 --> 00:59:04.230
or this he was absolutely the man for that role

00:59:04.230 --> 00:59:06.809
i couldn't imagine anyone else doing it you know

00:59:06.809 --> 00:59:08.530
so last episode we're saying we enjoyed it so

00:59:08.530 --> 00:59:10.670
much we didn't write many notes that's how many

00:59:10.670 --> 00:59:14.590
notes i wrote yeah 10 lines barely anything and

00:59:14.590 --> 00:59:16.510
it's because i was just engrossed in the film

00:59:17.059 --> 00:59:20.900
Yeah, and that's the beautiful thing about Event

00:59:20.900 --> 00:59:24.039
Horizon. It's a long film. It's not short, but

00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:28.599
it truly pulls you in. How long was it? Did you

00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:30.900
write it down? I didn't, but I'm sure we can

00:59:30.900 --> 00:59:36.300
find it. I think it's a long film. If it's not,

00:59:36.380 --> 00:59:40.360
I apologise. I'm pretty sure it's one of the

00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:44.340
longer ones of the era. I can't see where it

00:59:44.340 --> 00:59:47.909
says it on INDB, how long it was. Well, no, no,

00:59:47.929 --> 00:59:49.630
it's not a long film. It's a short film. It's

00:59:49.630 --> 00:59:52.630
one hour 36. Sorry. Oh, yeah, one hour 36. Well,

00:59:52.730 --> 00:59:56.429
yeah. But they fit a lot in. It didn't feel rushed.

00:59:56.789 --> 00:59:59.190
No, it doesn't feel rushed. There's a lot in

00:59:59.190 --> 01:00:01.829
it. Now, I mean, we'll come to it later when

01:00:01.829 --> 01:00:05.969
we talk about the famous lost cut edition, which...

01:00:05.969 --> 01:00:09.070
I'd love to see it. We've spoken about this before.

01:00:09.250 --> 01:00:11.550
Yeah, but let's actually talk about the film

01:00:11.550 --> 01:00:14.710
first of all. Just everything about it. works

01:00:14.710 --> 01:00:17.469
and this is where we were saying last episode

01:00:17.469 --> 01:00:21.070
that does it is it does it really require a prequel

01:00:21.070 --> 01:00:25.110
or is this just another thing preying on a franchise

01:00:25.110 --> 01:00:29.550
that isn't required yeah i think we said what

01:00:29.550 --> 01:00:32.030
could the prequel possibly be it's got to be

01:00:32.030 --> 01:00:36.650
the creation of the event horizon and i'm a bit

01:00:36.650 --> 01:00:38.429
worried they're going to spend a load of time

01:00:38.429 --> 01:00:41.809
in hell well the point so we've got two kind

01:00:41.809 --> 01:00:46.269
of options haven't we we've got option one it's

01:00:46.269 --> 01:00:48.750
going to be all based in hell and they're going

01:00:48.750 --> 01:00:53.150
to make it gratuitous and brutal and properly

01:00:53.150 --> 01:00:56.250
horrific because they can but keep it within

01:00:56.250 --> 01:00:59.349
the confines of whatever they need and it will

01:00:59.349 --> 01:01:01.849
still be released at 15 because whatever they

01:01:01.849 --> 01:01:04.090
do they're going to be told you need to rein

01:01:04.090 --> 01:01:08.780
it back or is option two going to be it's a completely

01:01:08.780 --> 01:01:11.800
different storyline with no characters that feel

01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:13.699
like they fit the universe or what we've already

01:01:13.699 --> 01:01:16.260
been told about and it's going to end up as like

01:01:16.260 --> 01:01:21.239
a 12a yeah i don't see them going balls deep

01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.519
we're going on making an 18 certificate film

01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:25.840
that hopefully we're going to get told to get

01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:27.719
back to the cutting room i just don't see it

01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:31.480
happening based on this the ship goes to hell

01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:33.920
it's there for seven years and then comes out

01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:40.050
again the ship is now and possessed. It basically

01:01:40.050 --> 01:01:43.369
has hell on board. When it comes back, all the

01:01:43.369 --> 01:01:49.690
crew is on it based on, well, or maybe not. No,

01:01:49.690 --> 01:01:52.429
when it comes back, everyone has destroyed themselves.

01:01:53.090 --> 01:01:55.550
Okay, so I was thinking how else could it say,

01:01:55.610 --> 01:01:57.570
yeah, that must be the case. Basically, it's

01:01:57.570 --> 01:02:00.429
going to be the same film. It's going to be the

01:02:00.429 --> 01:02:03.610
same film, but the film's going to end with all

01:02:03.610 --> 01:02:07.460
of them dying. and then the ship going to hell.

01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:10.159
But this is, yeah, exactly. And I just don't

01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:12.699
see that happening as a sequel. I don't think

01:02:12.699 --> 01:02:16.420
anyone's brave enough to do a, sorry, not a sequel,

01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:18.420
a prequel. I don't think anyone's brave enough

01:02:18.420 --> 01:02:22.000
to do a prequel to a film that has got cult status

01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.860
and to kill everyone in the end. But they have

01:02:24.860 --> 01:02:26.480
to. Just to lead on to the film. That's the only

01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:28.579
possible way that they could do a prequel to

01:02:28.579 --> 01:02:32.500
it. If it's an Event Horizon prequel, I mean,

01:02:32.500 --> 01:02:35.349
they are all dead before it goes to hell. Right?

01:02:36.070 --> 01:02:37.889
No, I think they all die in hell. They're all

01:02:37.889 --> 01:02:39.869
tortured and destroyed in hell. Because you see

01:02:39.869 --> 01:02:43.929
the pleading for help and stuff, like the locks.

01:02:44.289 --> 01:02:47.710
So yeah, you get the videos and the footage of

01:02:47.710 --> 01:02:49.769
the kind of captain with no eyes and stuff like

01:02:49.769 --> 01:02:51.730
that, don't you? And the screaming and the sounds

01:02:51.730 --> 01:02:53.409
of what the ship's been recording. Oh, that's

01:02:53.409 --> 01:02:54.309
how they're going to have to do it. You know,

01:02:54.349 --> 01:02:56.730
that's it. So it's going to be on there. And

01:02:56.730 --> 01:02:59.769
then the film will take them to hell. And then

01:02:59.769 --> 01:03:02.389
when they're in hell, that's when they're all

01:03:02.389 --> 01:03:04.010
going to go nuts and die. I don't think we're

01:03:04.010 --> 01:03:05.719
going to get that. I'll tell you what we're going

01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:09.900
to get. We are going to get a boring science

01:03:09.900 --> 01:03:15.960
film of them discussing that this is what we're

01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:19.420
doing, them testing it, some weird shit happening

01:03:19.420 --> 01:03:22.199
during testing that they can't explain, and the

01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:26.840
film will end with, I don't know, them escaping

01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:30.780
onto the event horizon or the event horizon being

01:03:30.780 --> 01:03:34.909
sent off. even though these weird shit has happened.

01:03:35.269 --> 01:03:37.769
And then the event horizon goes off, end of the

01:03:37.769 --> 01:03:39.829
film, and that's when it leads into the normal

01:03:39.829 --> 01:03:43.010
event horizon. So I think what we'll get is this

01:03:43.010 --> 01:03:47.010
just semi -boring, this is us testing about folding

01:03:47.010 --> 01:03:50.969
space. Young Sam Neill, whoever's going to play

01:03:50.969 --> 01:03:54.929
him, is designing it. And that's why he went

01:03:54.929 --> 01:03:57.329
out to go and see event horizon, because obviously

01:03:57.329 --> 01:03:59.980
you need that time, because why is he... When

01:03:59.980 --> 01:04:02.719
he gets to Event Horizon, why is he so swayed

01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:06.420
immediately into hell when he gets there? And

01:04:06.420 --> 01:04:09.360
I think he's already been there. In my mind,

01:04:09.380 --> 01:04:12.039
if I'm going to do some sort of prequel to make

01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:14.800
it so that Sam Neill's character in Event Horizon

01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:18.980
is so easily led into being into hell and being

01:04:18.980 --> 01:04:21.420
this demonic person. He's already there. Has

01:04:21.420 --> 01:04:23.960
he already visited hell twice or once or twice

01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:27.179
before Event Horizon went? Yeah, that makes sense.

01:04:27.219 --> 01:04:30.150
Because that is the kind of... if we're going

01:04:30.150 --> 01:04:32.889
to plink holes at the plot. That's kind of the

01:04:32.889 --> 01:04:34.889
only really thing that is there. I was saying

01:04:34.889 --> 01:04:36.949
all the way along, it's like he knows. And was

01:04:36.949 --> 01:04:39.130
he meant to be on Event Horizon? But whatever

01:04:39.130 --> 01:04:42.789
happens in this prequel, maybe it becomes comatose,

01:04:42.789 --> 01:04:44.969
which is why you can't explain. You can't send

01:04:44.969 --> 01:04:47.380
them because it's going to kill them all. And

01:04:47.380 --> 01:04:49.039
that's why he then goes off to go and get his

01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:51.199
ship back. Is his wife on the event horizon?

01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:54.840
I honestly can't remember. I know his wife's

01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.880
a part of it, but I don't know if she dies. And

01:04:57.880 --> 01:04:59.900
again, could that be that they were scientists

01:04:59.900 --> 01:05:05.920
together? I liked his Hey Arnold -esque shrine

01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:08.300
to her. And I noticed that two of the photos

01:05:08.300 --> 01:05:10.380
were the exact same photo, just a slightly different

01:05:10.380 --> 01:05:13.420
size. Yeah, you can feel a bit like that. But

01:05:13.420 --> 01:05:15.960
yeah, it feels like he, and this is the big problem

01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:17.800
with Event Horizon. If you're going to pick holes

01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:21.320
in what I consider one of the greatest sci -fi

01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:23.420
horror films out there. Oh, yeah. And bear in

01:05:23.420 --> 01:05:26.400
mind, it was a huge failure. Really? Massive,

01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.420
massive. I've got the figures here. If I open

01:05:28.420 --> 01:05:32.099
up my phone to have a look here. That's surprising.

01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:35.539
Budget 60 million at box office, a box office,

01:05:35.699 --> 01:05:38.539
26. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. People were just too

01:05:38.539 --> 01:05:42.659
scared of it or? It was. so it must have made

01:05:42.659 --> 01:05:46.519
its money um but in effect it's hellraiser in

01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:52.460
space um the issue with it i think may have been

01:05:52.460 --> 01:05:56.260
that at the time people weren't that interested

01:05:56.260 --> 01:06:01.079
maybe in it but also the fact that initial reviews

01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:05.039
it jumps about too much and the reason it jumps

01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:07.059
about too much and not enough is explained in

01:06:07.059 --> 01:06:09.460
parts of what we were just saying is because

01:06:09.460 --> 01:06:12.500
huge amounts had to be cut out. The studio basically

01:06:12.500 --> 01:06:15.619
said, you cannot air this. This needs to be heavily

01:06:15.619 --> 01:06:19.880
edited. So it went to the cutting room. And again,

01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:26.119
I wrote it down here. Where was it? 30 minutes

01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:29.139
of too disturbing footage was lost forever. 30

01:06:29.139 --> 01:06:34.079
minutes. 30 minutes. Would we find it disturbing

01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:39.199
now in the same way? Yeah, that's... Bearing

01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:43.079
in mind that Die Hard is no longer an 18, BBFC

01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:46.119
has redone it as a 15, I would suggest probably

01:06:46.119 --> 01:06:49.300
not with most things. It's funny though, Event

01:06:49.300 --> 01:06:55.199
Horizon has remained an 18. I wonder if where

01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:57.139
it does all that flashing of seeing them all

01:06:57.139 --> 01:07:01.800
being tortured, if those scenes are longer. Well,

01:07:01.980 --> 01:07:04.780
this is what I've got here. Because they were

01:07:04.780 --> 01:07:09.539
very good depictions of a hellscape. They were

01:07:09.539 --> 01:07:13.219
very good. Yeah, so one of the known facts, sorry.

01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:17.039
Some of the hell footage was filmed using amputees

01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:19.940
and porn actors for realism. Okay. That's the

01:07:19.940 --> 01:07:24.519
stuff that was cut. Yeah, okay. And yeah, everybody

01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:26.360
hates that the full director's cut was destroyed.

01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:28.260
There's no closure. There's no proper version.

01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:34.639
And yeah, I've got here, the missing footage

01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:37.500
allegedly means that there's character arcs and

01:07:37.500 --> 01:07:40.920
explanations that just vanish. I bet one day

01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:44.579
that's hidden away in someone's loft. Well, allegedly

01:07:44.579 --> 01:07:49.300
there is one copy of it in a salt mine in Hungary

01:07:49.300 --> 01:07:52.980
on a mouldy VHS tape. I don't know how true that

01:07:52.980 --> 01:07:55.860
is. It's an odd place for it to be. A very odd

01:07:55.860 --> 01:07:57.900
place, but there you go. So yeah, lost footage

01:07:57.900 --> 01:08:01.380
stored on a moldy VHS in a Transylvanian salt

01:08:01.380 --> 01:08:04.320
mine. Why would it be there? No idea. It's one

01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:06.960
of those things like the guy who edited it would

01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:09.460
have kept a copy for himself, put it in one of

01:08:09.460 --> 01:08:13.090
those like circular tin things. put it in his

01:08:13.090 --> 01:08:15.769
loft and forgot all about it. And he'd be like

01:08:15.769 --> 01:08:19.170
his great grandchild inheriting a house, going

01:08:19.170 --> 01:08:20.930
through all the loft stuff and we'll find Event

01:08:20.930 --> 01:08:23.029
Horizon original. But this is the bit I wanted

01:08:23.029 --> 01:08:25.989
to find. And I think this explains why the film

01:08:25.989 --> 01:08:28.729
was a failure. And as much as it's become a cult

01:08:28.729 --> 01:08:30.829
film now and you can sit back and you can enjoy

01:08:30.829 --> 01:08:34.149
it because of what it is, even though you've

01:08:34.149 --> 01:08:36.529
got the big holes in it. And I think personally,

01:08:36.710 --> 01:08:40.329
this is very, and if this is true, this is why

01:08:40.329 --> 01:08:44.310
it's broken. Anderson delivered his cut in six

01:08:44.310 --> 01:08:48.270
weeks instead of 10 months. We did it really

01:08:48.270 --> 01:08:51.750
quick. Yeah. Six weeks to cut 30 minutes of footage

01:08:51.750 --> 01:08:58.689
in a film that is quite exposition strong. That's

01:08:58.689 --> 01:09:01.680
a lot to remove. you're not just removing large

01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:05.020
chunks of grotesque horror. It sounds like quite

01:09:05.020 --> 01:09:07.819
a bit was removed. And it feels like that. If

01:09:07.819 --> 01:09:12.340
you watch it without having the fandom glasses

01:09:12.340 --> 01:09:15.060
on, without saying, I am a fan of this film,

01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:18.119
if you try and take those off and you try and

01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:20.720
pick holes in it, it's quite hard to pick holes

01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:23.300
in. There's not enough explanations for some

01:09:23.300 --> 01:09:26.800
things, yet some things don't get explained at

01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:30.560
all. And how does... the drive end up going to

01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.000
hell what actually is hell are we talking about

01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.640
hell are we talking about different and so much

01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:39.800
of it is left unexplained that sometimes you

01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:43.760
it it gets lucky it gets lucky because your own

01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:45.979
brain starts filling in some of the gaps yeah

01:09:45.979 --> 01:09:50.579
yeah and the bits that they left in like him

01:09:50.579 --> 01:09:53.500
covered in the weird symbols etched in his skin

01:09:53.500 --> 01:09:56.659
is enough for you to go oh fuck me And throw

01:09:56.659 --> 01:09:58.819
you off kilter so you stop thinking about anything

01:09:58.819 --> 01:10:03.699
else. If you're picking holes, if you can walk

01:10:03.699 --> 01:10:05.460
away from that and just go, no, I'm going to

01:10:05.460 --> 01:10:07.600
pay attention to exactly how this story is going.

01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:10.060
There are so many bits that just aren't explained

01:10:10.060 --> 01:10:13.739
that could have been done so much better. And

01:10:13.739 --> 01:10:17.579
that's me being unfair or me being brutal to

01:10:17.579 --> 01:10:20.600
it. Me being the fan of it, I fucking love the

01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:22.600
film. I couldn't care that there's plot holes

01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:27.859
in it. It's brilliant. It's scary. it's not quite

01:10:27.859 --> 01:10:32.579
over the top and there's some genuinely fun parts

01:10:32.579 --> 01:10:35.279
in it as well the the only bits really because

01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:38.100
like i was trying to put myself in their situation

01:10:38.100 --> 01:10:41.539
there's not a situation like the the girl the

01:10:41.539 --> 01:10:45.640
mum who's had the disabled kid yeah i couldn't

01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:49.079
put myself into her brain where i would follow

01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:52.380
a vision of my child who i know was impossible

01:10:52.380 --> 01:10:56.770
to be there Absolutely impossible. It couldn't

01:10:56.770 --> 01:10:59.510
convince me otherwise. No. It absolutely couldn't.

01:10:59.529 --> 01:11:01.869
There's no way I would be falling from that balcony.

01:11:02.050 --> 01:11:04.869
Because if I'm like, okay, we know this ship's

01:11:04.869 --> 01:11:08.130
trying to kill us. We're taking these anti -carbon

01:11:08.130 --> 01:11:11.390
dioxide filters. The ship's going to try and

01:11:11.390 --> 01:11:15.250
show me something. And I saw my son running around.

01:11:15.369 --> 01:11:18.010
I'm not going to drop my stuff. How did he suddenly

01:11:18.010 --> 01:11:22.210
get here? It's just... It's not happening. And

01:11:22.210 --> 01:11:25.470
it's funny, isn't it? A similar era film is Sphere.

01:11:26.550 --> 01:11:30.149
And a very similar story. That's the underwater

01:11:30.149 --> 01:11:32.569
one. That's the underwater one, where they have

01:11:32.569 --> 01:11:35.170
a sphere that when they enter, something happens

01:11:35.170 --> 01:11:38.670
to them and then they come out. And actually,

01:11:38.710 --> 01:11:41.130
I really enjoy Sphere. The book is phenomenal.

01:11:41.729 --> 01:11:43.949
I've read the book, really enjoyed the book.

01:11:44.029 --> 01:11:46.789
A lot better than the film, as it often goes.

01:11:48.300 --> 01:11:51.000
And in some ways, it's very similar to Event

01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:54.000
Horizon where we've got this weird sphere thing

01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:59.579
and it's doing these things. Where sphere falls

01:11:59.579 --> 01:12:03.479
down and Event Horizon also falls down is you

01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:07.119
still don't really get this explanation of is

01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:11.239
what's actually happening real? So Event Horizon,

01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:13.699
is this real? Is this just mass hysteria? Are

01:12:13.699 --> 01:12:16.100
they just killing themselves? Is this genuinely

01:12:16.100 --> 01:12:20.260
meant to be hell? what is going on whereas with

01:12:20.260 --> 01:12:22.859
sphere bless it it's like these things we've

01:12:22.859 --> 01:12:25.300
manifested we've made them real and then have

01:12:25.300 --> 01:12:27.819
you ever seen sphere a long time ago i'm not

01:12:27.819 --> 01:12:30.239
sure i remember it particularly well the ending

01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:33.439
of sphere is one of those ones that you go i

01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:36.760
enjoyed it up to that point why did you do this

01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:39.939
they all basically come to the idea that the

01:12:39.939 --> 01:12:43.399
sphere is manifesting everything so if we imagine

01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:47.420
that the sphere no longer exists and it just

01:12:47.420 --> 01:12:51.600
went away it'll go away it does and it does okay

01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:54.039
whereas event horizon you're just kind of yeah

01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:56.720
it's so you know it's such a bad way of ending

01:12:56.720 --> 01:13:01.260
of such a good book but um event horizon obviously

01:13:01.260 --> 01:13:04.720
you don't get the it just goes away but you still

01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:08.039
have no idea is is this just manifestations is

01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:10.260
it real and they're causing these injuries to

01:13:10.260 --> 01:13:16.109
themselves is this genuinely hell yeah i mean

01:13:16.109 --> 01:13:20.829
all these things aside still as we've said it's

01:13:20.829 --> 01:13:22.869
brilliant exactly we're just picking holes in

01:13:22.869 --> 01:13:24.609
something because you need to be negative to

01:13:24.609 --> 01:13:27.609
then pick out the positives and every actor cast

01:13:27.609 --> 01:13:30.529
in that film is brilliant everyone's good um

01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:33.359
The little bits of comedy they throw in as well.

01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:35.500
Absolutely fantastic. The bit where he's fixing

01:13:35.500 --> 01:13:38.079
the ship and he's, I've only just fixed her.

01:13:38.140 --> 01:13:41.960
Boom. Yeah. It's just heartbreaking. Yeah. That

01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.960
Cooper character was an easy one to dislike too.

01:13:46.100 --> 01:13:48.479
Yes. Yeah, considering he survives at the end.

01:13:48.579 --> 01:13:50.960
It's like one of the characters, like the one

01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:53.779
I wanted to survive dies in the ship. He gets

01:13:53.779 --> 01:13:56.880
blown up, doesn't he? Yes, he does. He was a

01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:00.300
guy I liked. I reckon he could have disabled

01:14:00.300 --> 01:14:03.140
that bomb. He only had to press disable on three

01:14:03.140 --> 01:14:05.939
things, but he stands there, looks at it and

01:14:05.939 --> 01:14:10.079
goes, fuck. Yeah. I reckon, had he known how

01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:12.420
to disable, maybe because he didn't know, but

01:14:12.420 --> 01:14:15.939
he instantly shown the touchscreen with three

01:14:15.939 --> 01:14:18.819
disabled icons on it. I wonder if he could have

01:14:18.819 --> 01:14:21.979
quickly gone, and disabled it with like two seconds

01:14:21.979 --> 01:14:24.920
left. Probably, but again, it wouldn't progress

01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:28.760
the story and ended up with. the least amount

01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:32.840
of people surviving to make it more of a, oh

01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:34.819
my God, is anyone going to survive this? I do

01:14:34.819 --> 01:14:37.720
wonder though, had they managed to escape, let's

01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:41.220
say they escaped. Yeah. So Lawrence Fishburne

01:14:41.220 --> 01:14:45.539
and the other few escape. Are they now tortured

01:14:45.539 --> 01:14:49.979
and insane if they get away from the ship? Because

01:14:49.979 --> 01:14:52.439
it's kind of at the end, you're not sure because

01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:56.279
she has that weird vision when she wakes up.

01:14:56.539 --> 01:15:00.619
Yeah. And you could actually play that quite

01:15:00.619 --> 01:15:03.600
nicely into this prequel we're talking about.

01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:06.739
You could have everybody that's been on a test

01:15:06.739 --> 01:15:10.399
flight so far has come back and they are absolutely

01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:14.359
insane. They've completely lost the plot. Either

01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:20.279
they come back and they're just completely psychotic

01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:28.390
or they're almost comatose. Yeah. yeah uh i'm

01:15:28.390 --> 01:15:30.369
just like imagine if they were doing a sequel

01:15:30.369 --> 01:15:33.630
to it because it would almost be like sigourney

01:15:33.630 --> 01:15:35.310
weaver do you know what i mean so it'd be that

01:15:35.310 --> 01:15:37.970
actress yeah it'd be the ones like you've got

01:15:37.970 --> 01:15:40.890
to go back i'm not going back you know that kind

01:15:40.890 --> 01:15:44.529
of scenario well yeah well what it would be it

01:15:44.529 --> 01:15:47.449
would be the typical wayland utani thing of we

01:15:47.449 --> 01:15:50.069
sent out a recovery ship after you we've recovered

01:15:50.069 --> 01:15:53.430
the drive And brought it back. And we've brought

01:15:53.430 --> 01:15:56.529
it back to Earth, and we've just fit it in the

01:15:56.529 --> 01:16:00.390
Event Horizon 2. It's kind of like Doom. I was

01:16:00.390 --> 01:16:03.189
just going to say, you could actually fit this

01:16:03.189 --> 01:16:06.590
into a Doom film. It's like Doom 3. Event Horizon's

01:16:06.590 --> 01:16:12.250
Doom 3. Yeah. Actually, you're not far off. Yeah,

01:16:12.390 --> 01:16:16.090
manually created this connection to hell. Yeah.

01:16:16.510 --> 01:16:19.090
And then... Which is a really good fucking intro

01:16:19.090 --> 01:16:22.819
to a game. Doom 3 didn't get... gets a bit slated,

01:16:22.819 --> 01:16:25.680
but actually opening to Doom 3 when you're on

01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:28.640
that space station is really fucking cool. It

01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:33.239
is. It is really cool. Going back to Event Horizon

01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:38.640
for a moment then, what else have we got? I liked

01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:41.359
how the Event Horizon, when we talk about Hell

01:16:41.359 --> 01:16:43.720
and the design of the ship, they almost kept

01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:47.640
it cathedral -esque. It almost felt like you're

01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:52.829
in this kind of, this church, this gothic, hr

01:16:52.829 --> 01:16:56.609
geiger sort of creation yeah yeah and part of

01:16:56.609 --> 01:16:59.630
me wants to say was that intentional or was or

01:16:59.630 --> 01:17:03.829
was the ship warped and changed by hell and this

01:17:03.829 --> 01:17:06.449
is what has come back was it meant to look like

01:17:06.449 --> 01:17:08.029
that when you consider the ship that they go

01:17:08.029 --> 01:17:11.109
in looks nothing like it and i know it's an experimental

01:17:11.109 --> 01:17:14.449
ship but well that adds more credence to you

01:17:14.449 --> 01:17:18.409
saying about samuel designed that ship so you

01:17:18.409 --> 01:17:20.189
know he would have made the drive before the

01:17:20.189 --> 01:17:23.810
ship yes so if you think he's gone mad with hell

01:17:23.810 --> 01:17:26.689
then he then designed the ship purposely to look

01:17:26.689 --> 01:17:32.689
like that to become to become like this um the

01:17:32.689 --> 01:17:36.710
the ship of hell you know to make it look that

01:17:36.710 --> 01:17:39.470
way aesthetically was very different wasn't it

01:17:39.470 --> 01:17:45.590
but i did love so the the outside so it's miniatures

01:17:45.590 --> 01:17:48.550
it's got to be again that opening scene When

01:17:48.550 --> 01:17:50.510
you see the ship on the outside, the ship they

01:17:50.510 --> 01:17:53.869
fly out in, what a beautiful kind of scene that

01:17:53.869 --> 01:17:56.350
was. And then all the cockpit stuff in their

01:17:56.350 --> 01:18:00.329
ship, amazing set design, very reminiscent of

01:18:00.329 --> 01:18:05.409
Alien. It was very believable that that was and

01:18:05.409 --> 01:18:08.909
could be a ship. Unlike so many sci -fi films

01:18:08.909 --> 01:18:11.680
from this kind of day onwards. It wasn't just

01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:14.119
shiny and new. It looked like it had been in

01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:16.460
space. It looked like it worked for a living.

01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:19.920
Whereas, I mean, you look at the new Star Trek

01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:25.579
films, as much as I enjoy the Chris Prine Star

01:18:25.579 --> 01:18:28.819
Trek films, the Enterprise just always looked

01:18:28.819 --> 01:18:32.199
beautiful and clean and everything just looks

01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:35.729
like it's immaculate. A lot of sci -fi films

01:18:35.729 --> 01:18:37.750
do it, and I don't get it. You're flying around

01:18:37.750 --> 01:18:39.270
space. You're going to pick up shit. You aren't

01:18:39.270 --> 01:18:42.289
going through a fucking space starship wash every

01:18:42.289 --> 01:18:45.310
day. I heard somebody say this a little while

01:18:45.310 --> 01:18:49.670
ago. Star Trek is a utopian future. Star Wars

01:18:49.670 --> 01:18:52.810
is a dystopian future. And I think that's the

01:18:52.810 --> 01:18:56.189
difference. A, it's a dystopia. This is a dystopia.

01:18:56.489 --> 01:19:01.109
But they're kind of more realistic, if you really

01:19:01.109 --> 01:19:03.829
think about it. I think if I was going to...

01:19:04.109 --> 01:19:09.449
Imagine a military spaceship being used a lot.

01:19:09.590 --> 01:19:11.489
Imagine the inside of an aircraft carrier when

01:19:11.489 --> 01:19:14.289
you see that. All the netting on the sides, buckets.

01:19:14.609 --> 01:19:17.090
That's what it would be. So many people have

01:19:17.090 --> 01:19:19.390
disagreed with me on this. This is why I really

01:19:19.390 --> 01:19:23.470
liked the new Star Trek films. You're on the

01:19:23.470 --> 01:19:25.729
Starship Enterprises, the first Enterprise that

01:19:25.729 --> 01:19:29.989
they've built in those film franchise. The warp

01:19:29.989 --> 01:19:33.789
core literally looks like... a nuclear reactor

01:19:33.789 --> 01:19:39.270
all of engineering is scaffolding platforms and

01:19:39.270 --> 01:19:41.409
everything like that which is exactly what you

01:19:41.409 --> 01:19:43.170
would get in something like a submarine or a

01:19:43.170 --> 01:19:46.149
warship the enterprise series is like that exactly

01:19:46.149 --> 01:19:49.310
it genuinely feels like oh okay no this actually

01:19:49.310 --> 01:19:55.149
feels like i'm in something that's new and it

01:19:55.149 --> 01:19:58.369
is what it is and yeah that was a brilliant aesthetic

01:19:58.369 --> 01:20:01.189
and i think more should do it like that yeah

01:20:01.550 --> 01:20:05.909
but um yeah anyway back to event horizon there

01:20:05.909 --> 01:20:07.689
are things it could have done better absolutely

01:20:07.689 --> 01:20:12.909
but it still works yeah um for me favorite scene

01:20:12.909 --> 01:20:15.029
still scares the crap out of me the circuit board

01:20:15.029 --> 01:20:18.329
scene crawling through the circuit board the

01:20:18.329 --> 01:20:21.189
matrix kind of conduits thing and the light going

01:20:21.189 --> 01:20:24.109
off and i've said it on the show before i watched

01:20:24.109 --> 01:20:26.850
it for the first time i bought it on dvd from

01:20:26.850 --> 01:20:31.250
virgin megastore I bought my Xbox, original Xbox,

01:20:31.409 --> 01:20:34.409
the same day. And next door to game in Watford

01:20:34.409 --> 01:20:39.090
was a Dixons. And I bought a Yamaha receiver.

01:20:39.550 --> 01:20:42.609
I bought a 5 .1 sound system. You had some money.

01:20:43.210 --> 01:20:47.409
I was 16. I wasn't bothering with college. I

01:20:47.409 --> 01:20:50.069
was working pretty much five days a week. And

01:20:50.069 --> 01:20:52.199
I didn't have a girlfriend at the time. Yeah,

01:20:52.220 --> 01:20:55.060
you had money then. I had money. And I just took

01:20:55.060 --> 01:20:57.819
it all home, plugged it all in. Great staff discount,

01:20:57.920 --> 01:20:59.000
remember, on the Xbox. How did you get it home

01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:01.640
at 16? Was your mum driving you around? Mum doesn't

01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:03.720
drive, no. I carried it home in the bus. It was

01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:07.619
a very heavy... An AVR, an Xbox? Oh, yeah. Jesus.

01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:11.300
Yeah, mate. Speakers as well. It was hard work,

01:21:11.380 --> 01:21:14.300
mate. Really hard work. Yeah, I bet. But I got

01:21:14.300 --> 01:21:17.319
it home, plugged it all in, and that night, lights

01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:20.779
off. It's the first time I'd experienced 5 .1

01:21:20.779 --> 01:21:23.310
as well. Oh, fucking scared the shit out of me.

01:21:23.449 --> 01:21:25.729
I even had the Xbox done with an optical cable

01:21:25.729 --> 01:21:27.609
to the receiver. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I could

01:21:27.609 --> 01:21:31.430
get prime audio, darling. Yeah, well done. Oh,

01:21:31.449 --> 01:21:33.109
God, what though? It was the Yamaha receiver.

01:21:33.229 --> 01:21:38.430
It was Altec speakers. Was it Altec? They're

01:21:38.430 --> 01:21:41.989
little satellite ones. Yeah, so they were probably

01:21:41.989 --> 01:21:47.729
about, I'm just holding up a Canon Monstra for

01:21:47.729 --> 01:21:50.609
those that obviously can't see. Maybe about half

01:21:50.609 --> 01:21:53.550
the size bigger than that. Yeah. And I had, yeah,

01:21:53.590 --> 01:21:55.649
four and then one that went on top of the TV

01:21:55.649 --> 01:21:57.869
and then a big ass sub. Yeah, the big sub, yeah,

01:21:57.930 --> 01:22:00.449
yeah. And it was brilliant. Absolutely blew me

01:22:00.449 --> 01:22:03.609
away. Yeah. And yeah, Revent Horizon scared the

01:22:03.609 --> 01:22:05.569
shit out of me. Got to that corridor scene in

01:22:05.569 --> 01:22:07.510
the pitch black watching it and then you've got

01:22:07.510 --> 01:22:09.590
the screaming from coming around all around you.

01:22:09.609 --> 01:22:12.590
I was like, I don't like it. Yeah. Oh, I would

01:22:12.590 --> 01:22:14.550
have loved to have done that. It was bad enough

01:22:14.550 --> 01:22:16.029
in here. I would have had all the lights off.

01:22:16.069 --> 01:22:19.829
I bet. Yeah. Same. Loved it. I don't know what

01:22:19.829 --> 01:22:21.750
else to say, really. We've waffled on a lot.

01:22:22.189 --> 01:22:24.630
Really, I'm happy that we watched another good

01:22:24.630 --> 01:22:27.689
one. Yeah, I'm really happy. I mean, we managed

01:22:27.689 --> 01:22:30.289
to talk for 25 minutes, which is good, but it's

01:22:30.289 --> 01:22:34.350
so often that actually we can talk more and with

01:22:34.350 --> 01:22:38.010
more verbosity about the terrible films rather

01:22:38.010 --> 01:22:39.229
than the good ones, because the good ones, you

01:22:39.229 --> 01:22:41.170
just feel like saying, they were good. What do

01:22:41.170 --> 01:22:43.189
you want me to say? Everyone knows Event Horizon

01:22:43.189 --> 01:22:46.149
is good. Which is why sometimes we have to go

01:22:46.149 --> 01:22:47.750
down that route of picking on the negatives,

01:22:47.810 --> 01:22:50.409
because it helps you understand more the positives.

01:22:50.949 --> 01:22:53.329
Well, let me tell you, I haven't told you about

01:22:53.329 --> 01:23:03.060
the next one. Oh, shit. Transfer complete. I

01:23:03.060 --> 01:23:05.760
will not watch come guzzlers from space five.

01:23:06.060 --> 01:23:08.460
The first four are enough for me. Okay. Well,

01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:09.739
let's pause it then. Cause we need to chat about

01:23:09.739 --> 01:23:13.880
what we're going to do. Um, okay. So this is

01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:18.039
a film. Congratulations. That came out in 2006.

01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:21.680
I'd never heard of it until within the last year.

01:23:21.819 --> 01:23:24.699
And I've seen lots of clips of it. And I've been

01:23:24.699 --> 01:23:28.310
2006. Who was in it? Oh, okay, hang on, let me

01:23:28.310 --> 01:23:31.550
get it up on IMDb. I'd never heard of it, and

01:23:31.550 --> 01:23:35.729
I just saw clips that I thought it was made up.

01:23:36.449 --> 01:23:39.529
Oh, right, okay. Like it was like an SNL skit.

01:23:39.850 --> 01:23:42.210
It was that much that I thought it was an SNL

01:23:42.210 --> 01:23:49.310
skit. So who's in it? Luke Wilson. Right, okay.

01:23:49.489 --> 01:23:54.300
Dax Shepard, Terry Crews. Oh, Terry Crews. Okay.

01:23:54.460 --> 01:23:58.199
Yeah. Maya Rudolph, if you know who she is, which

01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:02.500
is why I thought it was an SNL clip. Dax Shepard.

01:24:02.500 --> 01:24:05.960
Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. It's a 15. It's an hour

01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:10.739
and 24 minutes, 2006. It is a film called Idiocracy.

01:24:12.010 --> 01:24:14.710
Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. No, I knew this

01:24:14.710 --> 01:24:16.869
exists and I've always wanted to watch it because

01:24:16.869 --> 01:24:19.189
it looks so fucking stupid. I've really wanted

01:24:19.189 --> 01:24:21.449
to see it ever since I realised it was an actual

01:24:21.449 --> 01:24:24.229
film. It started, as soon as you said Terry Crews,

01:24:24.229 --> 01:24:26.029
it's like, shit, hang on, I should know what

01:24:26.029 --> 01:24:30.689
this is. Yeah, he basically tests something for

01:24:30.689 --> 01:24:34.250
the military and ends up in the future and when

01:24:34.250 --> 01:24:37.149
they wake him up, everyone is idiots and he becomes

01:24:37.149 --> 01:24:41.329
the... An average U .S. Army librarian named

01:24:41.329 --> 01:24:43.569
Joe Bowers, played by Luke Wilson, is selected

01:24:43.569 --> 01:24:46.670
for a top secret human hibernation experiment.

01:24:46.850 --> 01:24:50.229
He is forgotten about and wakes up 500 years

01:24:50.229 --> 01:24:53.449
later in a dystopian future where humanity has

01:24:53.449 --> 01:24:56.989
become incredibly unintelligent due to due to

01:24:56.989 --> 01:25:01.119
dysgenics, mass community. commercialism i knew

01:25:01.119 --> 01:25:04.300
i was going to get that wrong and anti -intellectualism

01:25:04.300 --> 01:25:06.619
yeah they're basically watering everything with

01:25:06.619 --> 01:25:09.659
energy energy drink which is killing everything

01:25:09.659 --> 01:25:13.960
i've seen random clips of it and the prison car

01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:16.399
scene where they send in he gets a little crappy

01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:18.539
car he's got you can understand why i thought

01:25:18.539 --> 01:25:21.180
it was like an snl well do you know who directed

01:25:21.180 --> 01:25:23.420
and wrote it uh i saw his name i don't know who

01:25:23.420 --> 01:25:26.899
that is you don't know who mike judge is Hang

01:25:26.899 --> 01:25:31.239
on, let me go back. Mike Judge, creator of King

01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:38.460
of the Hill. Oh, okay. I don't like that. I don't

01:25:38.460 --> 01:25:39.880
like beavers and butthead. I think it's shit.

01:25:41.979 --> 01:25:45.800
I do. Sorry, that's upset you. I don't think

01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:50.449
it's even remotely funny. He's moved his microphone

01:25:50.449 --> 01:25:53.630
away. Is this the hot take that's going to end

01:25:53.630 --> 01:25:56.670
our friendship? I think people should buy it.

01:25:57.130 --> 01:26:09.149
Oh, dear. Sorry. We are going to watch Beaver's

01:26:09.149 --> 01:26:11.510
Head to America. No, we're not. I don't want

01:26:11.510 --> 01:26:12.949
to watch that. Please don't make me watch that.

01:26:13.900 --> 01:26:17.319
please don't to be fair no i i will let you off

01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:18.979
beavers and butthead is definitely one of these

01:26:18.979 --> 01:26:21.579
ones that are like rick and moore's you like

01:26:21.579 --> 01:26:24.319
any of the adult animation you either enjoy it

01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:27.920
or you don't um it is very much of its era too

01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:29.899
the modern ones were phenomenal in comparison

01:26:29.899 --> 01:26:34.680
to actually how they did it um and how similar

01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:36.619
they are to the original mike judge did a brilliant

01:26:36.619 --> 01:26:41.100
job coming back to it but it is very pure island

01:26:41.100 --> 01:26:42.659
if it's not your cup of tea it's not your cup

01:26:42.659 --> 01:26:45.000
of tea i mean for me it's king of the hill is

01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:48.840
is amazing uh and it's so different to what he

01:26:48.840 --> 01:26:50.979
did with beavers and butthead is it's hard to

01:26:50.979 --> 01:26:52.960
believe it's the same bloke that wrote it i really

01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:55.119
like king of the hill yeah i do it's one of my

01:26:55.119 --> 01:26:57.180
favorite animated shows along with bob's burgers

01:26:57.180 --> 01:27:00.979
but um this is by the same bloke that did beavers

01:27:00.979 --> 01:27:03.420
and butthead king of the hill God, he's written

01:27:03.420 --> 01:27:05.840
loads. Office Space was his. Yeah, I know Office

01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:07.739
Space, yeah. I'm pretty sure he did Office Space

01:27:07.739 --> 01:27:09.239
as well. I'm going to have to double check that

01:27:09.239 --> 01:27:13.319
now just to make sure. Yes, Office Space was

01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:16.760
his. Silicon Valley, he was a writer and was

01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:20.819
created for as well and produced. There's a lot,

01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:24.840
absolutely a lot. So I am pretty hopeful that

01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:30.170
as stupid as idiocracy is going to be. I'm going

01:27:30.170 --> 01:27:32.090
to have a lot of fun with that. I think so, yeah.

01:27:32.149 --> 01:27:34.010
As I said, I've been really wanting to see it

01:27:34.010 --> 01:27:36.050
for ages. I needed to find an excuse to see it,

01:27:36.069 --> 01:27:42.430
and I found one. So that's it. Next time, 2006

01:27:42.430 --> 01:27:50.949
Idiocracy. Command functions are offline. And

01:27:50.949 --> 01:27:53.489
that's it. That's another Untitled Sci -Fi Show.

01:27:53.550 --> 01:27:57.279
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01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:04.119
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01:28:07.420 --> 01:28:09.720
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01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:12.439
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01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:16.199
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01:28:16.319 --> 01:28:18.720
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01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:21.760
the piss, but honestly, really means a lot to

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01:28:38.760 --> 01:28:42.039
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01:28:45.300 --> 01:28:49.479
Z. That's all of us. I don't think I've missed

01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:52.020
any new characters. No, no, no. I don't think

01:28:52.020 --> 01:28:53.199
I've missed any new characters. You've got everyone.

01:28:54.260 --> 01:28:57.779
You can email us on podcasts at channel84 .co

01:28:57.779 --> 01:29:01.680
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01:29:04.100 --> 01:29:08.340
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01:29:08.380 --> 01:29:10.300
I'm fucking it up. Head to the button that says

01:29:10.300 --> 01:29:12.779
talk to us, basically. And we're all there, all

01:29:12.779 --> 01:29:15.899
of us. I'm not particularly good at putting anything

01:29:15.899 --> 01:29:17.859
on there. I never had anything on there. I know

01:29:17.859 --> 01:29:19.579
that James has started doing it. I know that

01:29:19.579 --> 01:29:21.500
Karen and Adam have been very good at doing it.

01:29:21.539 --> 01:29:23.220
Adam was always very good at putting on there.

01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:26.279
I don't know if Simon and Ross put anything on

01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:28.659
there, to be honest. I don't often go on their

01:29:28.659 --> 01:29:32.880
website. But it's there. We have got a lot of

01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:37.079
blogs on there. I've got a lot of rants. Most

01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:40.220
of mine are rants. That's fine. But yeah, that's

01:29:40.220 --> 01:29:43.079
it. Do chat with us. We love talking to everybody.

01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:47.319
Yeah, find us on social, email us, stalk us.

01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:50.640
We really don't mind. Idiocracy. And I look forward

01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:54.430
to potentially... A bit of squirming from you

01:29:54.430 --> 01:29:56.550
over there as you try and figure out which film

01:29:56.550 --> 01:30:00.310
your wife, which films my wife, Chase, forgets

01:30:00.310 --> 01:30:03.229
the intro. Love you. Love you, Tom. Love you.

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