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hello there it's been a while hasn't it i've

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been busy quite complicated really and none of

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your business anyway i'm just popping in to let

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you know that the bumbling idiot rob hadn't planned

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his guess the intro segment ahead of time So

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contrary to anything you may, or in this case

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may not hear in this episode, the following,

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guess the intro, is another Connections special.

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Now isn't that exciting? Guess the clips, guess

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the connection, win... well, win fuck all, really.

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Okay, that's enough of me. I've got an appointment

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with the new boy. What's his name? James or something.

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I don't really give a fuck. But HR has me on

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blast thanks to the last Christmas party. I tell

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you, you grab one chipmunk's arse, and the next

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thing you know you're labelled a danger to the

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women in the office. I tell you, the world's

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gone mad. You know, people like you are the reason

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I was afraid to go to school as a child. You

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talk like a leader, but the strongest leads.

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I am Balthazar Flake, and you are my apprentice.

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Be grateful Black Bolt doesn't engage you in

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conversation. This strange is even more arrogant

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than ours. They don't have vampires. What the

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hell are they? Ooh, uh, maybe they're, uh, Ninja

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Turtles. Luxor, Nixor, burst and burn! What is

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she doing? Just a goose. Have a nice day. Okay,

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hello. Hello. Welcome to the Untitled Sunrise

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Show. It's late. You've been here a little while

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already. It's all a little bit of a mess. But

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that's all the charm of this show, isn't it?

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Oh, 100%. You okay? I'm okay, mate. Just stressed

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and tired with work. Yeah, let's get on with

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it, shall we? Let's bang it out. Enter authorization

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code. Together. I'm going to link them together.

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I was kind of a bit like, he said a joke. I need

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to say that's what she said, but I'm not going

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to be quick enough. Again, that's what she said.

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That's what she said. Well, not to me. Not quick

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enough is not something I've heard. Okay. Guess

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the intro. I'm trying to work out what the cat's

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looking at at the moment. I don't know if it's

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on a little manic kind of drug thing. She's like

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staring at the window to the garden. There could

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be a fly there. Yeah. We've got loads of fruit

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flies in the house. Ah, that's what it is then.

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Driving me nuts. Yeah. So she could be looking

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at that or there could be a daddy long legs on

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the other side. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She spotted

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something. For those who can't see it, she just

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dipped her head like something was there. Oh,

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no, no. You're watching me. A bit of a lick.

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Yeah. Pretending I haven't. Right. Okay. Guess

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the intro. Nobody gave me all the correct answers.

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One person did their best. They got one completely

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wrong. They know who they are. Again, we don't

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say names. Do we? Don't we? No. And they never

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came back to me with other ones. Anyway, here

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we go. Number one. Oh, such an idiot. This is

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how it's going to go. It's muted. Is it recording?

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I hope so. It is. My name is Kino Loy. Okay.

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I haven't seen this. I've only seen social media

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posts about that character. I think it's Andor.

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You're right, it's Andor. I haven't seen it either,

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so I don't know who that character was, don't

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know anything about it. I know it's meant to

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be very good. We've watched episode one of season

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one is all we've watched. Right, okay. And if

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he was in that episode, I don't remember it.

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I've not watched any of the episodes of any of

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the TV series, mainly because when everyone started

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watching it, there was then that weird Star Wars.

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vespa scene that came out of whatever it was

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the mandalorian where they're all driving around

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on what looks like space versions of vespa motorbikes

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and this is like uh this is this looks terrible

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mandalorian was good season one and two i enjoyed

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season three i haven't seen um i haven't seen

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acolyte i haven't seen there's another one that's

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got jude law in it i've not seen i haven't seen

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any andor i do really want to see andor because

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it's meant to be brilliant You know, we both

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liked Rogue One. Yeah, that's true. What else?

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There's loads of Star Wars I haven't seen. Oh,

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yeah, they look like they're on. Yeah. I think

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that must be season two. Yeah, I saw that. No.

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Multicoloured mopeds. Yeah, and I just think

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Disney are really ruining a lot of stuff at the

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moment. It's because they've got hold of the

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licenses and Disney don't care. I'm giving an

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opinion to a show I haven't watched, so that's

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unfair. But I have heard Andor's very good. I

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do intend to watch it eventually, but Disney

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stuff is really quite low down on my list of

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things to watch. Like Marvel. Yeah. Again, they're

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that new Marvel series, not series, so that film,

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Thunderbolts, whatever it's called. Oh, yeah.

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Asterisk, New Avengers. And it's meant to be

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brilliant. I've watched 30 minutes of it and

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I was bored. What's the word? I haven't got any

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good faith in them. I've got no confidence that

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they're going to be making good stuff. Well,

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it's not even that. I'm bored of the genre. There's

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been too much in such a short period of time.

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I don't care anymore. I don't care about Marvel.

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I don't care about any of the universe anymore.

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You literally hammered it so hard, I'm sick of

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it. But I'm really looking forward to seeing

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Superman. I haven't seen it yet. And I'm super

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excited for the Batman 2. So whether or not people

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agree with me, I don't really care on this. Superman

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was a breath of fresh air because they did something

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new with it. Yeah. And that's just unheard of

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at the moment, especially with Disney. Oh, let's

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just kind of money for old ropes, which just

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keep it going and going and going. This is what

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the people want. And it isn't. Anyway, sorry.

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Next track. Next one. Now this is a tricky one.

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It is. Is that Arnold Schwarzenegger? It is an

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approximation of Arnold Schwarzenegger. I think

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it's a bad impression. Oh, right. Okay. I'd have

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to look at the credits. I'd have to look at the

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credits of... Who actually plays him. Because

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I don't think it sounds like him. Obviously it's

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meant to be him. And it is meant to be him when

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you actually watch it. It says that. That's who

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it is. What era are we talking? I'm a bit concerned

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to tell you that. And when you find out the title,

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you'll know why. Let me just write it in here

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and I'll tell you what year it was made. Okay.

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Isn't it called that? Is it that? Where is it?

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I just can't even think about it. So, a film

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to do with Southern California rare earthquakes.

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Okay, it came out in 2009. 2009, okay. It got

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5 .8. John Cusack is the lead. Oh, is it not

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Volcano? It's the End of the World one. Yeah,

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it is. I watched it quite recently and I don't

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mind it. But the ending's so depressing and horrible.

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I can't pronounce how Thandie Newton wants you

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to say her name anymore. Right, okay. Thandwee?

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Thandwee? I can't remember how she asked people.

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2012? 2012, that's right. Yeah, okay. And yeah,

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2012, where I'm a horrible divorcee who my wife

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hates me because, my ex -wife hates me because

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of everything. But don't worry, when her husband...

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New husband dies in front of me, saving the children.

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She'll fall back in love with me and we'll be

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married on this final arc that floats off to...

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Yes, you're right, because he was governor at

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the time and it's like... Yeah. Allegedly him,

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isn't it? It doesn't sound enough like him. It's

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like a comic version of him, isn't it? It's a

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caricature of him. Yeah. Starfleet does not do

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assassination. Just tell me what it is so we

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can move away from him. Him it. What? Just tell

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me what that one is so we can just not have to

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talk about it. It's Star Trek. Is it not Strange

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New World? No. Is it one of the films? Yeah.

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The shit one. There's so many shit ones. The

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really recent one that's shit. Oh. Section 31.

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Yeah, thank you. Move on. That was in there for

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you, that one. Planet of the Apes. The original

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Charleston Heston one. No, no. The Mark Wahlberg

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one. It's the one that's got Franco in it, James

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Franco. Oh, yeah, good one then. Okay, not the

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Mark Wahlberg one. No, no, the first of the kind

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of new age of those eight films. Yeah, which

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was pretty good. I'm not going to get into it

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because I know you love monkey talk, but we can

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spank the monkey on this one and just say no,

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we're done. Let's go. Okay, I made that one long.

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It sounded like Tuvok. Yeah, no, it's Tom Hanks.

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I have not seen this film at all. So I did not

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know what to actually pick as the quote. Not

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Finch? No, I tell you what, it came out the same

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year as the title of the film that was on earlier.

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So it came out in 2012. Oh, really? Okay. And

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I kind of remember it being a little bit slated,

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but it looks like here it's actually got pretty

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good. What genre is it? It's got Tom Hanks in

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it, Halle Berry, Hugh Grant, Hugo Weaving, Jim

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Broadbent. Who else do I think we know? Ben Winshaw,

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it's got Keith David in it. That's an all -star

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cast. If David was saying something, I'd watch

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the other one. Yeah, Keith David's in Nope. What

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am I talking about? What's he in? He's in Nope.

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I honestly have no idea what that could be. It

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is... Oh, Susan Sarandon's in it. Cloud Atlas.

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Never seen it. Never seen it. I think it's kind

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of like two people always connecting over timelines

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and then when one dies and the other one dies

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and they both then they both get reborn. I've

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got a kind of feeling that's what it might be

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about. Right, okay, yeah, no, it's not one that's

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ever, ever vaguely attracted me to it. In fact,

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I couldn't tell you. You've told me more than

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I could even have told you about it. I mean,

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someone who's seen it might be able to correct

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me on that, but I've got a funny feeling that's

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what it is about. Yeah, okay. Oh. Yeah, honestly,

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never, never seen it. I couldn't even picture

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the trailer for this, and you know how I am with

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trailers, so. Yeah, big cast. Big cast. Right,

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last one. The Chinese station's about 100 miles.

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Just a little Sunday drive. This is a flipping

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brilliant film. Yeah, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant

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film. Oh, I can picture his bloody face. Play

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it again, if you can. Hang on, it'll take a little

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bit of a... Close the file. It's about 100 miles,

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just a little... Hang on, this isn't easy to

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do. The Chinese station's about 100 miles, just

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a little... George Clooney, Gravity. Yay, got

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it, good job. You know what, George Clooney,

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you're starting to sound a bit like Tim Allen.

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Maybe. To infinity and beyond! It's all that

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coffee he drinks is probably doing his throat

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in, isn't it? Great film, isn't it? Sandra Bullock

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as well. Oh, God. Sandra Bullock in that weird

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white vest thing when she gets out of her space

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suit. Yeah, I remember seeing it at the cinema.

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I really enjoyed Gravity. No more monkey films.

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Really, really, really, Teddy, really, Teddy.

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What have you been doing? Fuck all. No, large

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amounts of work. So, really, I'm really delayed

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on Alien Earth, which is pissing me off. So I

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still haven't got past where we are. I've got

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one episode to watch. I've still only seen up

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to the point where we've got poor old lung in

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a tube. I haven't got past that yet. Okay, it

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is worth it when you get time. Yeah, I'm looking

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forward to it. It's just really not getting time.

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But I've caught up a bit on Star Trek. So I can

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actually tell you the ones I've watched now.

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I won't remember them, but go on. Oh, I think

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you will. Because actually, you know what? They've

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been brilliant. This is Strange New Worlds. It's

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overtaken... Right, actually, I've got a few

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bits to sort. So I'm going to go in reverse.

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Sorry, let me just... It's overtaken Lower Decks

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in my opinion. Oh, 100%. 100 % for me. Everyone

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knows how much we liked Lower Decks. I haven't

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watched the last season still. Nor have I, unfortunately.

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The sellout who ate its tail. Brilliant episode.

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We get Kirk's first day in command on the Farragut.

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Yes. We get the weird, creepy ship that I can

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guarantee 90 % of the people go, it's the Borg.

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It's the origin of the Borg. This is where the

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Borg come from. And it turns out they're just

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humans that were years and years and years in

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the past. I thought it was going to be that race

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from Lower Decks. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. And I kind

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of thought it was a little bit of an homage to

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it. Yeah. Well, obviously that's from the original

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series though, right? I'm trying to say Sontarans

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and that's Doctor Who. Yeah, but Lower Decks

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was taking the mick out of a race from the...

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TNG. Oh, from the... Yeah, TNG. They steal Geordie.

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Oh, yeah, of course. You make us strong. I remember

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the episode now, yeah. You make me strong in

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the bed. I would have loved to have seen Strange

00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:09.399
New World's take on that. Yeah. Because they

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are comical. I mean, the design of the ship was

00:14:11.980 --> 00:14:14.080
brilliant. Loved it. Absolutely great. Yeah,

00:14:14.179 --> 00:14:15.759
what a good idea. The spacesuit designs were

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really good. And then that image of them all

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stood in the black astronaut spacesuits looking

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kind of vaguely like NASA ones, but not. Yeah.

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Really nice take. Really enjoyed that episode.

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Loved seeing Kirk. I loved the fact that they

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kind of ripped the piss out of Kirk in an earlier

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episode as well when they've got the whole...

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fake star trek original series as i speak like

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this and this is how we'll get to that episode

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in a minute okay so that's the whole that's the

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holodeck episode uh through the lens of time

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was the other one i've caught up on which where

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they go to the planet and they go in and the

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little orbs have trapped things it turns out

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it's it's a prison more another very very good

00:14:53.860 --> 00:14:56.600
episode again started making my brain thinking

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okay so captain patel suddenly goes all uh lizard

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person versus Mr. I've got no eyes anymore. Yes,

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yes. Almost like it's, are they linked? So she's

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still got a, shit, what are they called? She's

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still got Gorn in her, which we knew, but there

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is Gorn controlling her, which means, can we

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trust Ortega? I think when you, there's a balloon

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on your feet, so I was trying to move it. I think

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the more, are you completely up to date with

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it? No, no, no, no. I've still, I've got four

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more bloody episodes. No. Yeah, not really. It

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throws it out. I think it's, yeah. I think they

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threw it in there to make people think that.

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It's PTSD. Or people like me to think like that.

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It's PTSD. And I've got a feeling, this isn't

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spoiling a thing, the episode I just watched

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that had her in it heavily. Yeah. Ends that.

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Puts a kind of end on that little storyline.

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And it's a very good one. A whole episode based

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around her. You like it. Oh, okay. That's cool.

00:16:00.019 --> 00:16:01.759
So yeah, through the lens of time, interesting

00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:08.120
episode. I've decided as fit as Chapel is, I

00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.980
can't stand her. No, I think she's a wanker.

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I've said this before. So she's basically put

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that entire mission at risk by just... wiggling

00:16:17.019 --> 00:16:19.220
her little titties at Spock, going, oh, go on,

00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.860
Spock. Trust goes both ways. Then promptly walks

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up to an alien control panel and just puts her

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hand under it. How did she know it was just going

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to come down and go, little prick, rather than

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just smash its way through her head? She's the

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only fucking prick in that scene. I like, if

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I'm going to be my chauvinistic me, which I am,

00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.919
everybody, from behind the curtain, I am a sexist

00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:45.399
pig. I like Neenah Singh best. Leon's really

00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:49.240
quite taken on that quite a lot now. If you tied

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me up and I had to pick one, leave me tied up

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and send her in. Yeah, she's going to come and

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do a security investigation. Oh, yes. What's

00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.580
that? You don't want a cavity? No, no, no, no.

00:17:03.620 --> 00:17:05.819
I think you need to be thorough. I think you

00:17:05.819 --> 00:17:08.960
should be thorough. I have a dribble. It's hidden

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on me somewhere. Can you find it? I've got three.

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Three triples. I want to know where you're hiding

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three of them. Put on your Leon. I'll show you.

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No, she's got really nice eyes. Yeah, sure. And

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then we've got Space Adventure Hour. Yeah. Which

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is the whole piss take Star Trek bit. i'm not

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sure i'm not sold on the episode i love the idea

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of it i love the fact that they've written it

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in that holodecks exist and then we're just going

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to say it's not a good idea for ships out at

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the moment i just think it's that too too advanced

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still at that point yeah i i get that i but every

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good star trek season needs a holodeck episode

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and i think by putting it as like a testing thing

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i think they could have made the holodeck a bit

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jankier well exactly the fact that like original

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vr and it looked like a tng thing is like no

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i don't like that it should have been a much

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smaller room it should have looked yeah it shouldn't

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have looked anything like the tng one because

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what we're saying then is holodeck technology

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hasn't changed the black and yellow lined box

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room since basically pike then yeah So I would

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have liked it to look a little bit more retro,

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maybe, as you say, a bit more janky. I mean,

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I love the fact that it basically kills the ship

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and takes up too much power. Absolutely brilliant

00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:43.420
idea. And I love the fact that Scotty says, well,

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it needs its own independent power source with

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its own little engine room in the future. Brilliant.

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Love it. I just felt too advanced for this era

00:18:52.099 --> 00:18:55.099
of Star Trek. Now, if they'd said, we've made

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friends with an alien race who want to come on

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board with the Federation and one of their gifts

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to us is this and this is what we're testing.

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Yeah, yeah. That could have worked. That for

00:19:04.369 --> 00:19:06.569
me would have been more believable. Especially

00:19:06.569 --> 00:19:08.369
as I think there's an Enterprise episode with

00:19:08.369 --> 00:19:13.750
Archer where they visit an alien race who has

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their form of holodeck. So that would have made

00:19:16.650 --> 00:19:18.369
more sense to me to do it like that and then

00:19:18.369 --> 00:19:20.849
them say, accept them into the Federation, but

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we're not going to take this yet. And what it

00:19:23.750 --> 00:19:25.369
could have been is it would have been the classic,

00:19:25.430 --> 00:19:27.529
if it had been an older Star Trek, it would have

00:19:27.529 --> 00:19:30.589
been the alien race purposely breaking it. It's

00:19:30.589 --> 00:19:35.700
a trap. But I mean, this is 100 % a take on the

00:19:35.700 --> 00:19:40.740
TNG episode where basically you've got... Oh,

00:19:40.819 --> 00:19:43.680
no. It's not Crusher. Who's the other Doctor?

00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:47.880
Doctor... She's the Doctor I like, actually.

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I prefer her to bloody Beverly. I know what you

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mean, don't worry. But basically she's like,

00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:55.880
no, you don't do anything original, Dave. You

00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:59.039
just knew the answer because... You know all

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the stories. If we gave you a true problem, you

00:20:01.779 --> 00:20:03.299
wouldn't be able to solve it. And that's exactly

00:20:03.299 --> 00:20:05.680
what they do. They say, Holodeck, create us a

00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:09.940
Sherlock Holmes story. Oh, sorry, a story and

00:20:09.940 --> 00:20:14.359
a puzzle in the ilk of Sherlock Holmes that Dazer

00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:16.880
doesn't know and would be a trouble for him.

00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:18.940
Yeah. And that's exactly what they've done in

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Stranger. Don't mind throwbacks. Obviously, Lower

00:20:21.380 --> 00:20:23.859
Decks have done it. But yeah, it's just that

00:20:23.859 --> 00:20:26.319
modern side. I would have liked to do a bit more

00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:29.660
janky. I like the idea that they had to use the

00:20:29.660 --> 00:20:31.980
transport buffers, for example, to actually make

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the people. So everyone within it is just the

00:20:33.779 --> 00:20:36.400
characters. That was a nice touch, yeah. But

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can I just throw in there, if they wanted to

00:20:38.220 --> 00:20:40.460
put in some proper... I mean, bloody Pike going,

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I'm really got a small voice as I'm walking around

00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:45.940
like this. It's like, okay, is that your real

00:20:45.940 --> 00:20:48.740
voice? Do you put on Pike? I'd love to know.

00:20:48.779 --> 00:20:53.019
No, his voices look like Pike's. Okay, so satin

00:20:53.019 --> 00:20:54.920
and sexy. I follow him on X and Blue Sky and

00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:58.500
stuff. I bet you do follow him. I'm an OnlyFans

00:20:58.500 --> 00:21:01.859
fan. What is it, just his hair? Yeah, it's just

00:21:01.859 --> 00:21:06.400
him with hair products. Dog. Only hair. That

00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:07.720
just sounds really bad, doesn't it? That's a

00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:10.400
bit gross. I'm not subscribing to that. Dog!

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I'm just saying they could have done a really

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good bit of comedy there where they could have

00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:18.940
just had the crew that had used it and then just

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some weird random alien raised with two heads

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or completely blue just walking around as a background

00:21:24.819 --> 00:21:26.740
character because that's all they've had from

00:21:26.740 --> 00:21:28.680
their transporter logs. Here's an interesting

00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:31.460
thing. So if you do get put in the transporter

00:21:31.460 --> 00:21:35.319
buffer, is it you naked? Or does it remember

00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:37.640
your clothes and stuff? Because he's having his

00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:40.640
hair done. It's going to be products and stuff

00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:43.220
in his hair. So when he teleports out the other

00:21:43.220 --> 00:21:47.799
side... Teleports, I said it. Yeah. It remembers

00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:49.940
how his hair product was and how his hair was.

00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:52.200
It remembers everything about you, yes. And I

00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:54.019
think there was a Lower Decks episode where...

00:21:54.019 --> 00:21:56.980
In fact, there's a TNG episode. Oh, no, was that

00:21:56.980 --> 00:22:00.940
a Q episode? Oh, no, I think Q puts... Picard

00:22:00.940 --> 00:22:03.940
back on the bridge naked. Um, but I'm sure there's

00:22:03.940 --> 00:22:05.640
been episodes where the transport has gone wrong

00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:08.000
and codes have gone missing or the clothes are

00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:10.960
wrong. Yeah. So yeah, it's, it's purely what

00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:13.900
the transporter remembers. Well, I really like,

00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:15.559
I need you to, obviously I need to wait for you

00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.920
to catch all the way up, but I love how the Scotty

00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.279
is getting a lot and they are really like you

00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:24.359
really showing how fucking good he is. I like

00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:26.660
the character. They've got the, the actor playing

00:22:26.660 --> 00:22:32.259
Scotty's brilliant. Yeah. I love the, That was

00:22:32.259 --> 00:22:35.299
a bit... Again, I know that they're doing things

00:22:35.299 --> 00:22:40.819
to make it kind of fun and trying... I mean,

00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:42.400
I'm noting there's a lot of it at the moment,

00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.819
a lot of Hollywood stuff, like Alien Earth, making

00:22:44.819 --> 00:22:48.819
Ice Age canon for fucking Alien. Yeah. The Atari

00:22:48.819 --> 00:22:52.519
2600 is canon in Star Trek because she used to

00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:54.619
play on it in the 80s. I think that's fine, though,

00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:57.339
because it is meant to be our future. Yeah, and

00:22:57.339 --> 00:23:01.960
kind of... The copper wire phones. It just, why

00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:04.940
did she have them? There's no replicator on board,

00:23:05.019 --> 00:23:07.259
remember? No, but you've seen her quarters, though.

00:23:07.420 --> 00:23:09.339
Yeah, it's just full of all the old stuff from

00:23:09.339 --> 00:23:11.720
all her lives. The more her characters in it,

00:23:11.740 --> 00:23:13.960
I actually am starting to dislike her. She grates

00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:15.720
on me a little bit. There's an episode where

00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:21.579
she specifically is the comedy character, and

00:23:21.579 --> 00:23:24.380
she's not funny. Right, okay. And it's just a

00:23:24.380 --> 00:23:27.619
bit like... Stop forcing this character to be

00:23:27.619 --> 00:23:31.559
like that. She's eccentric, not the butt of the

00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.180
joke. See, I'm liking the interactions that they've

00:23:34.180 --> 00:23:36.380
built between her and Scotty. I think that's

00:23:36.380 --> 00:23:39.140
really good. No, that's good, yeah. I'm loving

00:23:39.140 --> 00:23:42.359
Uhura because, again, it feels really like the

00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:47.180
Uhura we grew up with with TOS. And even Spock,

00:23:47.220 --> 00:23:49.420
to some extent. Although, again... I do enjoy

00:23:49.420 --> 00:23:52.700
Spock. I like Spock. Yeah, but we're getting

00:23:52.700 --> 00:23:57.200
this whole... Okay, fancy chapel, fine. Now getting

00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:02.380
with Lian. Okay, hang on a moment. Let's rewind

00:24:02.380 --> 00:24:04.460
a little bit, shall we? Is he going through Pomfava

00:24:04.460 --> 00:24:07.799
or something at the moment? It just feels like

00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:11.400
you're starting to make him kind of the go -to

00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:14.079
action guy. You're trying to make him the Tom

00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.339
Paris of Voyager. Spock's getting all the tail

00:24:17.339 --> 00:24:21.519
now. I'm not sure. That works. Well, they're

00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:24.059
kind of short of that male character because

00:24:24.059 --> 00:24:30.640
Kirk... Pike is with Patel. Yeah. And they're

00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:32.900
not going to do Scotty because that's not how

00:24:32.900 --> 00:24:35.200
his character would work. And then you've just

00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:38.380
got him. Although I think it would be quite funny

00:24:38.380 --> 00:24:41.440
having the women chasing after Scotty and him

00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:43.799
just being like... oh shit, what do I do? And

00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:45.460
just running away. Yeah, you should put him on

00:24:45.460 --> 00:24:47.599
a sex planet. And he'd be like, what? For him

00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:49.720
and Kirk on a sex planet. And then he's going

00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:51.119
to be like, what? And Kirk's going to be like,

00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:53.420
yes! Of course, because you've got George Kirk

00:24:53.420 --> 00:24:55.740
as well, haven't you? Yeah. Oh yeah, but he's

00:24:55.740 --> 00:24:57.920
not been in it this season. No, he's just disappeared

00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:01.240
off. Yeah, you're right. There aren't really

00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:05.380
any male characters you can do it. I just feel...

00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:09.140
It is, as much of it is following the canon of

00:25:09.140 --> 00:25:11.440
Star Trek really well. I'm really enjoying it.

00:25:11.500 --> 00:25:14.460
Just little bits like that. Spock wouldn't do

00:25:14.460 --> 00:25:16.819
this. Yeah, because they've got to be careful

00:25:16.819 --> 00:25:19.940
not to progress his character too far because

00:25:19.940 --> 00:25:22.779
of where he is in the original series. He's not

00:25:22.779 --> 00:25:24.980
that far gone because it's Kirk that's supposed

00:25:24.980 --> 00:25:28.599
to do all this. In the original series, he's

00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:33.740
considerably more stern and... fully kind of

00:25:33.740 --> 00:25:36.240
logical and fully following the rules. Unless

00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:37.880
something happens to him. Which is what I'm wondering.

00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.319
When they finally wrap this up and maybe the

00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:43.359
ship goes all its own, all the people go their

00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:45.400
own ways before it comes back to being Kirk.

00:25:45.779 --> 00:25:47.920
Maybe he ends up going back to Vulcan. Maybe

00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.960
he undertakes meditation on the planet and returns

00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:54.180
to Vulcan to try and find his Vulcan self because

00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:55.960
he feels he's become too human. I don't know.

00:25:56.259 --> 00:25:59.730
I think the season will end in tragedy. obviously

00:25:59.730 --> 00:26:02.349
because we know it kind of does and maybe the

00:26:02.349 --> 00:26:04.309
way they'll do it is he blames himself for not

00:26:04.309 --> 00:26:06.690
being able to save because he knows he knows

00:26:06.690 --> 00:26:09.470
what pike knows because they they spoke about

00:26:09.470 --> 00:26:11.509
in the first season yeah and don't forget in

00:26:11.509 --> 00:26:15.089
the original series spock is the one that breaks

00:26:15.089 --> 00:26:17.930
all the rules to take pike back to the planet

00:26:17.930 --> 00:26:20.329
in the episode called the cage yeah which is

00:26:20.329 --> 00:26:22.769
what we get as the first episode of the tos or

00:26:22.769 --> 00:26:26.930
us watching video footage of uh the records with

00:26:26.930 --> 00:26:29.660
uh pike just going beep for yes and beep beep

00:26:29.660 --> 00:26:33.140
for no yeah so um i think so spot broke the rules

00:26:33.140 --> 00:26:35.140
because of his friendship with pike so it makes

00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:36.940
you wonder yeah maybe you're right i think they

00:26:36.940 --> 00:26:39.980
can retcon that a little bit i think that because

00:26:39.980 --> 00:26:43.440
it's so developed so far now i think pike doesn't

00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.460
need to be going beep beep beep i think that

00:26:45.460 --> 00:26:48.299
aspect of it they can probably make him a bit

00:26:48.299 --> 00:26:54.109
more um stephen hawking then Then Davros. Do

00:26:54.109 --> 00:26:55.789
you know what I mean? So when that series comes

00:26:55.789 --> 00:26:58.150
around, if Valentino disappears from Eleven Labs

00:26:58.150 --> 00:27:00.849
and it suddenly starts being Valentino, it's

00:27:00.849 --> 00:27:04.930
like, hmm. Strange new world. Now everyone knows

00:27:04.930 --> 00:27:09.250
where Valentino comes from. Yeah, I said this

00:27:09.250 --> 00:27:12.690
privately to you, or maybe to Karen as well,

00:27:12.809 --> 00:27:17.099
that I think... I would really love a reimagining

00:27:17.099 --> 00:27:20.859
of the original series with these new actors.

00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:25.160
Oh, 100%. Kirk, Scotty, Spock. Those three, and

00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:26.779
then obviously Phil, the rest of the cast, and

00:27:26.779 --> 00:27:30.000
Hura. I think it would work. They could all do

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.440
it. They'd all be great. And, you know, the guy

00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:34.700
who plays Kirk, he's done, you know, he's headed

00:27:34.700 --> 00:27:36.559
a series himself anyway. It was Vampire Diaries

00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.339
or whatever it was, that vampire thing. Oh, yes,

00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:40.460
yes. So, you know, he can definitely... Well,

00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:43.240
I think he works really well. He's great. He's

00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:44.119
one of my favourite characters. He's a great

00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.740
actor. Yeah. We've seen how well he works in

00:27:47.740 --> 00:27:49.660
it, especially with that episode where they end

00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:52.420
up in the past in Canada, which is a phenomenal

00:27:52.420 --> 00:27:56.430
episode. Yeah, great episode. No, I think absolutely

00:27:56.430 --> 00:27:58.230
it would work. I think you could really, really

00:27:58.230 --> 00:28:01.150
have fun with that. Recasting the original cast

00:28:01.150 --> 00:28:03.670
for the ones we haven't got so Sulu check of.

00:28:03.890 --> 00:28:06.670
Yep, yep. It'd be interesting to see where we

00:28:06.670 --> 00:28:14.369
go. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. You've just pressed

00:28:14.369 --> 00:28:17.660
stop record without... Was that all the sci -fi

00:28:17.660 --> 00:28:20.000
stuff I'd done? Wait, have you gone for 15 minutes?

00:28:20.740 --> 00:28:22.579
Yeah, okay, it was all the sci -fi stuff I'd

00:28:22.579 --> 00:28:24.200
done. Yeah, I kind of got that. It felt like

00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.759
that was the end. You've kind of pretty much

00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:28.480
said everything that I've kind of watched too,

00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:35.039
except that I have also been... Oh, hang on a

00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.839
moment. I just need to press pause. Where's pause?

00:28:38.579 --> 00:28:40.880
I do this every fucking time. All right, sorry

00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:45.000
about that. Yeah, so I don't think I've watched...

00:28:46.159 --> 00:28:48.099
We're obviously caught up with Alien Earth after

00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:51.400
the newest episode that just came out. We are

00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.160
caught up on all of the Star Treks, which I'm

00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:54.259
not going to talk about. We just spoke about

00:28:54.259 --> 00:28:56.640
Star Trek for ages. What I have been doing, I

00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.680
have been playing a game on the Xbox called Roadcraft.

00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.279
You saw it a little bit earlier. Essentially,

00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.640
you're loads of construction vehicles and you

00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:09.740
just do construction stuff. Yeah, it confused

00:29:09.740 --> 00:29:11.900
me when you said Roadcraft because in the UK

00:29:11.900 --> 00:29:14.660
we call Roadcraft the police driver training.

00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.400
so if you do blue light training and response

00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.480
driver training you tend to learn from the police

00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:23.299
road craft manual yeah so you're you're you own

00:29:23.299 --> 00:29:26.119
this construction company in i think it's meant

00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.559
to be in africa and the first level is like you've

00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.599
got to prepare for a like some kind of hurricane

00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.500
or storm that's coming so You've got to drive

00:29:36.500 --> 00:29:38.420
your little scout vehicle, which is a 4x4, over

00:29:38.420 --> 00:29:42.839
to one area to unlock it and then set up a route

00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:44.740
for transport. And then you've got to get your

00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:47.660
crane and move those concrete blocks and steel

00:29:47.660 --> 00:29:49.599
bars onto the back of your truck and move your

00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:53.940
truck and then use your big digger thing to get

00:29:53.940 --> 00:29:57.190
debris out of the way. Lots of stuff. It's very

00:29:57.190 --> 00:29:59.710
slow -paced. It's very much like you can just

00:29:59.710 --> 00:30:01.170
sit there and not really think about it. I have

00:30:01.170 --> 00:30:04.069
put it on quite easy. I've taken damage off.

00:30:04.150 --> 00:30:07.849
I've taken fuel off. I've made it so you just

00:30:07.849 --> 00:30:10.950
get given whenever a new vehicle's available,

00:30:11.009 --> 00:30:12.990
it just gives you the lowest one rather than

00:30:12.990 --> 00:30:15.950
you needing to buy it. Because I don't want to

00:30:15.950 --> 00:30:17.690
have to deal with any of that. It's a company

00:30:17.690 --> 00:30:20.029
that seems to understand that some people just

00:30:20.029 --> 00:30:22.759
want to have fun with the game. but also give

00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.420
people the opportunity to properly graft as well.

00:30:25.579 --> 00:30:30.000
Yeah. And it's one of those sims. And in one

00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.299
regard, the sim is really good, how you have

00:30:32.299 --> 00:30:34.759
to do physically move stuff and do this and do

00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:38.680
this. You've got your vehicles. You can kind

00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.900
of turn on and off the 4x4 mode, turn on and

00:30:41.900 --> 00:30:44.559
off the low gears for going up steep hills, turn

00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:47.859
on and off the differential so one wheel isn't

00:30:47.859 --> 00:30:49.799
spinning. And you can turn all three of those

00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:51.779
on or whatever. And your scout vehicle can do

00:30:51.779 --> 00:30:53.539
all of them. Some of them can't do all of that

00:30:53.539 --> 00:30:57.339
unless you buy the better versions of it. And

00:30:57.339 --> 00:30:59.579
that's all with just in -game gold. You do missions,

00:30:59.779 --> 00:31:02.599
you get gold, and that's it. There's no like...

00:31:02.890 --> 00:31:05.789
as far as I can see, some other thing. There's

00:31:05.789 --> 00:31:09.170
DLC for it, for like skins for the trucks, but

00:31:09.170 --> 00:31:11.690
who fucking cares? They get covered in mud. It's

00:31:11.690 --> 00:31:14.410
like, who really cares? It wouldn't surprise

00:31:14.410 --> 00:31:16.430
me if there'll be things like license. You can

00:31:16.430 --> 00:31:19.470
have a JCB or Volvo. Yeah, I mean, you've got

00:31:19.470 --> 00:31:23.210
to be really into it for that. But yeah, it's

00:31:23.210 --> 00:31:25.769
cool. I mean, it's on Game Pass. It's multiplayer,

00:31:26.029 --> 00:31:29.680
cross -platform as well, which is like... Unheard

00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:33.539
of in AAA games, isn't it? And I've been having

00:31:33.539 --> 00:31:36.000
a lot of fun with it last few nights. I think

00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.799
we were talking about this earlier when you were

00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.240
showing me it, and I think it is true that simulations

00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.019
are slowly coming back now, and now the fact

00:31:44.019 --> 00:31:46.680
that games can look so realistic and so good,

00:31:46.900 --> 00:31:49.519
simulations are really taking advantage of that.

00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:52.299
I mean, don't get me wrong, the old simulations

00:31:52.299 --> 00:31:54.680
I used to play, things like SimTower, the original

00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:58.180
SimCity, SimCity 2000, 3000. I still go back

00:31:58.180 --> 00:31:59.880
and play all of those because they've got the

00:31:59.880 --> 00:32:02.220
most amazing game mechanics and playability.

00:32:02.940 --> 00:32:05.900
But now we've got games that look like they do

00:32:05.900 --> 00:32:08.960
and play how they play and the fact that you

00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:10.880
can have these proper physics engines now. I

00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.220
really foresee simulations are really going to

00:32:13.220 --> 00:32:16.079
take off again. Yeah. As I said to you earlier,

00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.160
there's only so many Call of Duties I can play.

00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:21.420
These sim games like that police one we were

00:32:21.420 --> 00:32:24.329
playing and now this, they're kind of... they're

00:32:24.329 --> 00:32:26.230
scratching little itch of me wanting to play

00:32:26.230 --> 00:32:28.289
a game but i don't know what i want to play i've

00:32:28.289 --> 00:32:30.490
been playing so many different like finding different

00:32:30.490 --> 00:32:33.609
retro games like listening to james and the super

00:32:33.609 --> 00:32:35.630
haters ed kind of made me like you know what

00:32:35.630 --> 00:32:38.309
i'm gonna go and find some games on these older

00:32:38.309 --> 00:32:41.549
consoles that i've never played before 100 and

00:32:41.549 --> 00:32:43.670
just play them And just see whether I like them

00:32:43.670 --> 00:32:45.549
or not. And I've had some... I can't remember

00:32:45.549 --> 00:32:47.069
off the top of my head now because I'm not remembering

00:32:47.069 --> 00:32:49.730
the names of the games. But I've been playing

00:32:49.730 --> 00:32:51.490
Bomberman on Mega Drive. I haven't played in

00:32:51.490 --> 00:32:54.150
years. Bomberman's one of those games, isn't

00:32:54.150 --> 00:32:56.650
it? It's just phenomenal. I've been having a

00:32:56.650 --> 00:33:01.009
lot of fun with those. I quite like retro racing

00:33:01.009 --> 00:33:05.390
games. I quite like. Yeah. But I do also... I

00:33:05.390 --> 00:33:08.190
don't go too far back with them. But I did really

00:33:08.190 --> 00:33:11.089
enjoy Micro Machines on the Mega Drive. Micro

00:33:11.089 --> 00:33:13.390
Machines V3 by any chance? Yeah, it was, yeah.

00:33:13.910 --> 00:33:18.529
I thought it might be. I do love Sega Rally on

00:33:18.529 --> 00:33:22.130
the Saturn. Sega Rally, again, top game. One

00:33:22.130 --> 00:33:23.950
that I really want to have a go with playing

00:33:23.950 --> 00:33:25.650
again because I haven't played it for years and

00:33:25.650 --> 00:33:29.950
I loved it. Destruction Derby 1 and 2. Yeah,

00:33:30.009 --> 00:33:33.269
I was playing those two. They are just such a

00:33:33.269 --> 00:33:36.009
good game. Daytona USA, but that's got to be

00:33:36.009 --> 00:33:39.539
in the arcade. The console games versions, as

00:33:39.539 --> 00:33:42.420
good as they are, never scratch the itch. Yeah,

00:33:42.460 --> 00:33:44.700
no, I agree. There's another one. Again, I played

00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:48.099
that. It's like an era for graphic -wise for

00:33:48.099 --> 00:33:52.039
car games, like Top Gear on the N64. I just love

00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.400
how it handles. We've spoken about this off microphone.

00:33:56.180 --> 00:33:58.779
My first experience of Top Gear was not good.

00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:04.400
So my friend Luke got an N64 or saved his money.

00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.160
I can't remember. It was a... Yeah, he saved

00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.019
his paper and money, sold his Saturn and got

00:34:09.019 --> 00:34:11.900
an N64. Then his birthday came around, which

00:34:11.900 --> 00:34:15.039
had just been September, and he asked for Top

00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:20.639
Gear and the N64 steering wheel. And I remember

00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.159
he unwrapped them, we got them, and we played

00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:26.179
it after school, and he put Top Gear in, we plugged

00:34:26.179 --> 00:34:31.550
the steering wheel in, and it was... unplayable

00:34:31.550 --> 00:34:34.909
a little millimeter to the left and the car was

00:34:34.909 --> 00:34:37.409
doing a full -on u -turn yeah and there was just

00:34:37.409 --> 00:34:39.510
nothing you could do about it now i've replayed

00:34:39.510 --> 00:34:42.510
it recently on the um legion go with kind of

00:34:42.510 --> 00:34:44.949
retro arch and all of that and using just the

00:34:44.949 --> 00:34:46.900
analog stick is like Actually, this is quite

00:34:46.900 --> 00:34:49.280
a good fun game. You've got to do a lot of drifting.

00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.179
A lot of drifting, but there's lots of shortcuts.

00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.440
Like the first track you get, you can literally

00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.679
cut across the beach rather than going on the

00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.460
road and save yourself like 10 seconds. I actually

00:34:59.460 --> 00:35:02.340
really enjoyed it. So my first experience killed

00:35:02.340 --> 00:35:05.900
it for me for, oh God, nearly 25, nearly, yeah,

00:35:05.980 --> 00:35:09.780
over 25 years. And Ridge Racer on the, I can't

00:35:09.780 --> 00:35:12.110
remember if it's the PSP or the Vita. Which one

00:35:12.110 --> 00:35:13.929
of those two came out first, the PSP or the Vita?

00:35:14.150 --> 00:35:16.309
PSP came out first. Yeah, so Ridge Racer on the

00:35:16.309 --> 00:35:19.210
PSP is another really good one, like drifting,

00:35:19.309 --> 00:35:20.869
and that's quite fun because you have to drift

00:35:20.869 --> 00:35:22.409
to get your boost up and then use your boost

00:35:22.409 --> 00:35:24.869
as a fun one. Yeah, so normally I wouldn't say

00:35:24.869 --> 00:35:27.210
I like racing games, but I like retro racing

00:35:27.210 --> 00:35:30.309
games. Enjoy those. One that I really, really

00:35:30.309 --> 00:35:33.690
need to play again, we had it on my brother's

00:35:33.690 --> 00:35:37.989
PlayStation, Need for Speed 3 Hot Pursuit. Yeah,

00:35:38.070 --> 00:35:41.239
the ESP games are great. That was brilliant.

00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:43.579
It was the first game that we kind of played

00:35:43.579 --> 00:35:45.860
that had a beautiful 3D environment. You had

00:35:45.860 --> 00:35:48.119
the police chases in there. You could eventually

00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:50.760
unlock. I think it was the Jaguar XJ you unlocked

00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.940
as the final car. And it was just brilliant.

00:35:54.059 --> 00:35:57.619
It played nice. It felt fast. The environment.

00:35:57.780 --> 00:36:00.820
And I just have very fond memories. Except for

00:36:00.820 --> 00:36:03.059
having a cheap game memory card, which kept on

00:36:03.059 --> 00:36:05.159
wiping, which meant all my unlocks went with

00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.139
it every couple of days. Oh, that shit. I've

00:36:08.139 --> 00:36:10.500
got really good memories of playing. One of the

00:36:10.500 --> 00:36:15.280
Need for Speeds with Mark on his brother's Saturn.

00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:17.099
I can't remember which one it was, but I was

00:36:17.099 --> 00:36:19.179
always the Ferrari and he was always the Lamborghini.

00:36:19.300 --> 00:36:21.099
And there's a level where you start and it's

00:36:21.099 --> 00:36:24.059
just a straight line. And then you're at the

00:36:24.059 --> 00:36:26.360
top of the hill and the hill just goes. And we

00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:28.820
used to see how fast we could go to see who could

00:36:28.820 --> 00:36:33.699
go the furthest on a jump. Yeah, fair enough.

00:36:34.059 --> 00:36:36.059
I've never quite been able to find which one

00:36:36.059 --> 00:36:39.159
it was to play it again. That was on Saturn.

00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.679
I'm sure it was on the Sega Saturn, yeah. I'll

00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:43.300
have to look that one up and tell you, but I

00:36:43.300 --> 00:36:46.980
think my greatest one that I probably spent the

00:36:46.980 --> 00:36:51.820
most money on, so excluding Daytona USA, because

00:36:51.820 --> 00:36:55.400
I think I actually outspent, even Daytona USA

00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.179
didn't get as much spent, Cruising USA on the

00:36:58.179 --> 00:37:01.519
N64. It used to be in the St. Albans Maltings

00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:05.320
Arcade. It was a pound for three credits, and

00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.260
I played the fuck out of that game. and i still

00:37:09.260 --> 00:37:10.960
love it to this day and i played it through on

00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.139
the n64 and okay it's very close to the arcade

00:37:15.139 --> 00:37:16.820
original because from what i've been led to believe

00:37:16.820 --> 00:37:19.760
the cruising usa arcade machine was basically

00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:24.679
an n64 with a few added extra bits kind of soldered

00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.900
on but uh yeah love it so that's it really for

00:37:28.900 --> 00:37:32.360
me uh but there is one other thing that we've

00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:34.820
both been doing and that is watch a particular

00:37:34.820 --> 00:37:42.429
film and we'll talk about it now Accessing library

00:37:42.429 --> 00:37:48.530
computer data. Right. The said film is a lovely

00:37:48.530 --> 00:37:51.750
little film. Between lovely and masterpiece there.

00:37:52.590 --> 00:37:55.030
What was the guy's name again? Jordan Peele.

00:37:55.030 --> 00:37:57.710
Jordan Peele wrote, directed and produced it.

00:37:58.070 --> 00:38:00.190
Yep. So Jordan Peele, you'll know from his other

00:38:00.190 --> 00:38:03.929
film was Get Out, which I've not seen. This was

00:38:03.929 --> 00:38:06.690
Nope. So he's done lots of stuff. So he's done

00:38:06.690 --> 00:38:10.869
Get Out. He's done Us. which is really, really

00:38:10.869 --> 00:38:14.530
good too. Other things as well, other than being

00:38:14.530 --> 00:38:17.110
in, you know, part of Key and Peele as well.

00:38:17.230 --> 00:38:21.650
Of course. But yeah, nope. Which, looking at

00:38:21.650 --> 00:38:24.230
IMDb, seven for us, it got 6 .8. I don't think

00:38:24.230 --> 00:38:26.510
that's fair. I've got to say, maybe it's because

00:38:26.510 --> 00:38:29.369
I just came off of watching fucking War of the

00:38:29.369 --> 00:38:33.610
Worlds to then watch this. But to me, this film

00:38:33.610 --> 00:38:38.730
was a breath of fresh air. An absolute breath

00:38:38.730 --> 00:38:41.289
of fresh air. So I saw this at the cinema when

00:38:41.289 --> 00:38:43.829
it came out. I was really intrigued by the idea

00:38:43.829 --> 00:38:46.750
of it. I hadn't seen the trailer for it. I just

00:38:46.750 --> 00:38:51.130
heard it was kind of a weird take on a UFO film.

00:38:51.469 --> 00:38:55.230
And I remember sitting in the cinema and now

00:38:55.230 --> 00:38:57.369
you've watched it, you can finally hopefully,

00:38:57.550 --> 00:38:59.349
especially as you've got the sound system in

00:38:59.349 --> 00:39:02.630
the house, when they're in the house and it's

00:39:02.630 --> 00:39:06.030
raining blood on them. And the sound. Well, I

00:39:06.030 --> 00:39:08.210
didn't get to. I was using my headphones on the

00:39:08.210 --> 00:39:11.510
computer. Oh. Yeah, so I'm going to watch it

00:39:11.510 --> 00:39:13.429
again. So all of that weird screaming. Well,

00:39:13.449 --> 00:39:14.829
it's great. These are great headphones. Yeah,

00:39:14.869 --> 00:39:16.929
that's true. So I did get to enjoy that. But,

00:39:16.929 --> 00:39:20.269
oh, my God, is that just sound design that's

00:39:20.269 --> 00:39:22.750
terrifying. And hearing it in the cinema coming

00:39:22.750 --> 00:39:25.730
from all around you and hearing the visceral

00:39:25.730 --> 00:39:28.949
splatter of blood and guts and chunks literally

00:39:28.949 --> 00:39:33.480
raining down on you 360 degrees around. Made

00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:37.579
me so uncomfortable that I did really, really

00:39:37.579 --> 00:39:40.039
consider I might go to the toilet at this point

00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:41.739
and come back when this bit's over because I'm

00:39:41.739 --> 00:39:46.059
not enjoying it. It's more I'm actually starting

00:39:46.059 --> 00:39:50.840
to tense up. It's that freaky. Sorry about that.

00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.079
Pausing again. Interruptions. Yeah, the sound

00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:57.789
design. Amazing. Obviously, spoilers. This is

00:39:57.789 --> 00:40:00.289
a massive spoiler because by telling some of

00:40:00.289 --> 00:40:02.829
the things about this film completely ruins it.

00:40:02.929 --> 00:40:05.269
But when you find out the noises it's making

00:40:05.269 --> 00:40:07.989
are the screams of the people it's digesting,

00:40:08.010 --> 00:40:10.929
that moment when you finally clock that, you're

00:40:10.929 --> 00:40:14.809
like, shit. Because the noise before is horses

00:40:14.809 --> 00:40:18.510
screaming. And you don't... I've not ever heard

00:40:18.510 --> 00:40:22.670
a horse scream. And even the guy, the main character,

00:40:22.769 --> 00:40:27.230
the horses are making really odd noises. He's

00:40:27.230 --> 00:40:31.170
not kind of connecting the dots either. No, so

00:40:31.170 --> 00:40:35.869
I mean, I think if my mind serves me right on

00:40:35.869 --> 00:40:40.789
this one, we have three distinct story arcs going

00:40:40.789 --> 00:40:44.010
on in this. So we have our main characters trying

00:40:44.010 --> 00:40:46.070
to keep their horse ranch afloat after their

00:40:46.070 --> 00:40:49.110
father dies in unexplained circumstances. Yep,

00:40:49.110 --> 00:40:53.019
yep. We have our childhood Hollywood star who

00:40:53.019 --> 00:40:59.300
had a nasty situation happen growing up and thinks

00:40:59.300 --> 00:41:03.579
he's basically a chosen one. I guess you kind

00:41:03.579 --> 00:41:06.079
of say the mentality he has from there. Yeah.

00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:10.519
And then we have the, well, actually four story

00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.380
arcs. And actually we have the film producer.

00:41:15.210 --> 00:41:17.710
trying to take a picture the documentary man

00:41:17.710 --> 00:41:20.909
angle of this all and then the fourth overarching

00:41:20.909 --> 00:41:24.030
story which kind of covers everything is jean

00:41:24.030 --> 00:41:28.090
jacket as the nickname goes is the ufo that they

00:41:28.090 --> 00:41:31.650
think is hiding behind a cloud or is it a cloud

00:41:31.650 --> 00:41:34.769
or we don't know yeah so those are the kind of

00:41:34.769 --> 00:41:36.289
the main stories that are going on and there's

00:41:36.289 --> 00:41:39.090
a lot to unpack and honestly if you're going

00:41:39.090 --> 00:41:41.750
to give it a six point whatever on on imdb i

00:41:41.750 --> 00:41:44.679
guess I can understand to an extent, because

00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:48.820
if you think about it, really, did you need the

00:41:48.820 --> 00:41:54.420
chimpanzee storyline? No. The honest, unless

00:41:54.420 --> 00:41:56.739
you're basically setting him up to basically

00:41:56.739 --> 00:42:00.159
be, he's crazy because this thing happened. He

00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.099
now thinks he is this chosen one who can't die.

00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:06.380
And it's all happening for a reason. And that's

00:42:06.380 --> 00:42:09.039
why, as we then later find out that he's basically.

00:42:10.219 --> 00:42:13.800
worked out a way to have the UFO come to his

00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.179
site by basically just offering people up and

00:42:16.179 --> 00:42:19.440
the horses up. Yeah, I think the angle is that,

00:42:19.539 --> 00:42:23.360
obviously, so he's feeding it horses, and I think

00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.320
he's trying to get back on top, because he's

00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:28.059
a washout. You can see, like... Yeah, he's a

00:42:28.059 --> 00:42:29.739
washout. He's in the middle of fucking nowhere

00:42:29.739 --> 00:42:32.019
with that cowboy place. Yeah, so he's kind of

00:42:32.019 --> 00:42:34.800
got a theme park, which isn't very successful.

00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.940
It's more successful than our main character's

00:42:37.940 --> 00:42:41.289
horse ranch. Yeah, than the Haywood. But it's

00:42:41.289 --> 00:42:43.550
still, yeah, he's not on top like he was when

00:42:43.550 --> 00:42:46.949
he was a kid in Hollywood. But there's two things

00:42:46.949 --> 00:42:51.190
I noticed. He surrounds himself with money, that

00:42:51.190 --> 00:42:54.650
guy, because I noticed it when he's made that

00:42:54.650 --> 00:42:58.050
kind of mini amphitheater thing. Brand new, it's

00:42:58.050 --> 00:43:00.329
very wasteful. They've got that slushy machine.

00:43:00.389 --> 00:43:02.530
It made a point to look at the slushy machine

00:43:02.530 --> 00:43:06.909
in this blazing heat to have this four kind of

00:43:06.909 --> 00:43:12.650
bodied... slashing machine. And the, if anyone's

00:43:12.650 --> 00:43:14.690
familiar with when you go, I don't know if they

00:43:14.690 --> 00:43:16.650
do it in this country, when you're in queues

00:43:16.650 --> 00:43:18.849
in hot countries, they spray you with water,

00:43:18.949 --> 00:43:21.469
like a mist. Yeah, they don't do that here. And

00:43:21.469 --> 00:43:24.610
they had that over the whole thing. So wasteful,

00:43:24.610 --> 00:43:27.869
ridiculous and wasteful. It just, and everything

00:43:27.869 --> 00:43:30.550
about him felt like that. He felt like washed

00:43:30.550 --> 00:43:35.809
out child star who's kind of looking for the

00:43:35.809 --> 00:43:38.159
next big thing to bring him to be. He thinks

00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:41.099
he's amazing and he's surrounded himself with

00:43:41.099 --> 00:43:42.960
people that think he's amazing or at least he's

00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:44.480
trying to make them think that. I don't think

00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.760
our main Hayward guy thinks that at all. He's

00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:48.800
just using him because he needs money. And if

00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:51.179
you know the storyline and if you haven't watched

00:43:51.179 --> 00:43:53.079
it, you do need to go and watch it to understand.

00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.860
But the whole idea of him being under this chosen

00:43:56.860 --> 00:44:00.079
person, he survived and therefore that's why

00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.039
he's so big to this day and that he can carry

00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:05.440
on doing this. He didn't, did he? He isn't. And

00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:06.739
that's kind of part of the thing they're trying

00:44:06.739 --> 00:44:09.019
to get across. It's like, yeah, the monkey didn't

00:44:09.019 --> 00:44:11.679
kill you and beat you to a bloody pulp like the

00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:15.039
rest of the cast did. It got shot before it did

00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.659
that. Yeah. Just because it's reaching its hand

00:44:17.659 --> 00:44:19.880
out. So he obviously said, oh, no, I had a moment.

00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:24.000
We made the connection. It saved me. No. it was

00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.840
just everyone else sees that the monkey was actually

00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:28.780
killed before it did anything to you whereas

00:44:28.780 --> 00:44:31.360
he he truly thinks he doesn't see it like that

00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.719
it's no i had a connection we had a connection

00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:36.079
it was protecting me from everyone else for those

00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.380
who haven't seen it the um the character was

00:44:39.380 --> 00:44:41.900
a child star in a sitcom with a monkey imagine

00:44:41.900 --> 00:44:45.000
elf but it's a real chimpanzee full house with

00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.659
a monkey yeah and the monkey kills everybody

00:44:47.659 --> 00:44:50.579
on set, or at least brutally maims the woman.

00:44:50.860 --> 00:44:53.420
Does a bloom pop and it triggers it, doesn't

00:44:53.420 --> 00:44:56.119
it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it goes on and kills

00:44:56.119 --> 00:45:01.199
a load of the audience, all of the cast. Well,

00:45:01.219 --> 00:45:02.840
one of the cast members survives, doesn't she?

00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:05.739
Well, yes, but she's mutilated, face -missing

00:45:05.739 --> 00:45:08.159
sort of mutilation. That's Stephen Yeun's character,

00:45:08.380 --> 00:45:15.880
who's great in it, by the way. Yes. And... I

00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:17.699
made a note. I'm going to try and find it and

00:45:17.699 --> 00:45:19.739
see if I can articulate it better in my brain.

00:45:19.940 --> 00:45:21.900
So what I think about Jordan Peele and all of

00:45:21.900 --> 00:45:25.980
his films that I've seen, he's really good at

00:45:25.980 --> 00:45:28.099
building characters. A lot of his films have

00:45:28.099 --> 00:45:31.900
got quite slow build -ups. Pacing, yes. But that's

00:45:31.900 --> 00:45:35.440
one, you might say, where some directors go,

00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.139
well, that's just boring. You're like, oh, I

00:45:38.139 --> 00:45:39.780
don't really care about this character. You care

00:45:39.780 --> 00:45:42.659
in some way about every single character. And

00:45:42.659 --> 00:45:45.280
I don't think... I might have found the AV guy

00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:47.059
a little bit annoying and a bit stereotypical.

00:45:47.059 --> 00:45:50.739
Oh, Angel, yeah. But at the same time, his character

00:45:50.739 --> 00:45:53.820
fitted in. It was required. Yeah, it was required.

00:45:53.980 --> 00:45:56.659
And I don't think there's any character... I

00:45:56.659 --> 00:46:01.400
think that you could modify Stephen Yeun's...

00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:03.940
Is he called Stephen Yeun? I literally just said

00:46:03.940 --> 00:46:06.699
his name. Yeah, character. But I think you do

00:46:06.699 --> 00:46:09.639
kind of still need him because that's, you know,

00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:13.719
it's almost like he's... offering up to the to

00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:18.159
the alien to as like a sacrifice yeah but you

00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:20.400
could always just argue that you you didn't need

00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.800
the whole tragic backstory it could just be that

00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.440
he is just a washed out he's uh yeah he's a washed

00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:31.440
out business entrepreneur who made one too many

00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:34.239
deals and finally got made a bad deal which is

00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:36.219
why he's ended up with this shit theme park yeah

00:46:36.219 --> 00:46:40.039
it didn't need this kind of weird backstory with

00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:42.559
with such tragic undertaking because it kind

00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.280
of felt like it was lost in the rest of the story.

00:46:46.380 --> 00:46:47.760
Could you think that maybe it would be a bit

00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:49.960
tropey to have it that way and by doing this

00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.500
just added a bit of other odd flavour? Well,

00:46:53.500 --> 00:46:56.579
no, it is about exposition. It's about giving

00:46:56.579 --> 00:46:58.619
the characters some sort of proper backstory

00:46:58.619 --> 00:47:00.460
because otherwise what are you going to do? You're

00:47:00.460 --> 00:47:02.179
just going to have a boring backstory of, oh,

00:47:02.300 --> 00:47:04.179
I was a businessman and I made this deal and

00:47:04.179 --> 00:47:07.460
this deal and I made millions on oil and I was

00:47:07.460 --> 00:47:10.139
the one that helped. virgin atlantic takeoff

00:47:10.139 --> 00:47:11.860
that sort of shit like that you could throw in

00:47:11.860 --> 00:47:14.840
there but then you've actually got to go with

00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:16.840
kind of real life things whereas actually going

00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:19.820
with tv now i can see why they did it it is giving

00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:22.699
a good good storyline to the character it's giving

00:47:22.699 --> 00:47:26.579
them something that's required um just ultimately

00:47:26.579 --> 00:47:30.019
with the length of the film as well it's something

00:47:30.019 --> 00:47:31.760
you could have cut out would it made it more

00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.980
enjoyable i just i don't know is the answer in

00:47:34.980 --> 00:47:38.929
my head i enjoyed it but I could have also maybe

00:47:38.929 --> 00:47:41.429
enjoyed it without some of those bits being in

00:47:41.429 --> 00:47:49.789
it. Yeah. Emmy, M, the sister. Yeah. Possibly

00:47:49.789 --> 00:47:52.469
another reason why the film gets a little bit

00:47:52.469 --> 00:47:57.369
of a lackluster score is because she is so well

00:47:57.369 --> 00:48:03.630
written. She is the absolute embodiment of main

00:48:03.630 --> 00:48:06.909
character syndrome. Yeah. everything's got to

00:48:06.909 --> 00:48:12.630
be about her. Yeah. And she plays it beyond perfectly

00:48:12.630 --> 00:48:16.630
in this, to the point that actually I hated her

00:48:16.630 --> 00:48:19.190
on screen because I just thought she's such a

00:48:19.190 --> 00:48:23.329
cunt. Is it Kiki Palmer who plays her? Oh. Yeah,

00:48:23.429 --> 00:48:26.150
I found her quite annoying, but I think that's

00:48:26.150 --> 00:48:27.530
the point. Yeah, Kiki Palmer. But you had to.

00:48:27.650 --> 00:48:30.869
She's quite annoying. You had to have her annoying.

00:48:30.889 --> 00:48:33.670
You couldn't not have her annoying because then

00:48:33.670 --> 00:48:38.500
you wouldn't get... The change in the story pace

00:48:38.500 --> 00:48:40.599
when she's suddenly excited about, oh, is this

00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:42.440
going to now make me famous? Because we've got

00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.440
this documentary person on. Then finally discovering

00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.980
the love for the brother and the father who had

00:48:47.980 --> 00:48:49.960
died and the ranch and what was actually going

00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:57.199
on. And we get one of very few characters that

00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:00.860
show growth in the film. Yeah. And she grows

00:49:00.860 --> 00:49:03.719
from being that horrible main character syndrome.

00:49:04.670 --> 00:49:08.530
all about her to actually someone by the end

00:49:08.530 --> 00:49:13.590
of it i loved her character so and i yeah it

00:49:13.590 --> 00:49:16.130
was an amazing bit of writing for her and it

00:49:16.130 --> 00:49:18.170
was amazingly portrayed on screen that's the

00:49:18.170 --> 00:49:20.329
thing and she's the polar opposite of her brother

00:49:20.329 --> 00:49:24.909
yeah 100 but i feel if you only watched half

00:49:24.909 --> 00:49:28.849
the film and thought oh it's a bit slow can i

00:49:28.849 --> 00:49:31.309
be bothered to watch the rest of it and if you

00:49:31.309 --> 00:49:34.980
stop there you would judge it harshly on her

00:49:34.980 --> 00:49:39.219
and the pacing. And you've got to watch the whole

00:49:39.219 --> 00:49:42.880
thing. And I fully accept it's slow. I found

00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:44.460
in the cinema, it's slightly different. On the

00:49:44.460 --> 00:49:50.000
big screen, time kind of played tricks on me.

00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.659
It didn't feel as long. But going back and watching

00:49:52.659 --> 00:49:55.820
on the smaller screen, when I've got time to,

00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:59.340
it did feel long. I'm not going to lie. It felt,

00:49:59.420 --> 00:50:03.159
it is a bit of a... oh my bum's starting to go

00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:06.000
a bit numb sort of thing but you've got to watch

00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.139
all of it for it to make sense and when you've

00:50:08.139 --> 00:50:10.659
watched all of it you realize how clever it all

00:50:10.659 --> 00:50:14.219
is and how well it's all interwoven with itself

00:50:14.219 --> 00:50:17.420
and as i say the character progression um i mean

00:50:17.420 --> 00:50:19.380
we haven't even got into what jean jacket is

00:50:19.380 --> 00:50:23.420
yet yeah and normally i'd go what the fuck have

00:50:23.420 --> 00:50:26.139
you done there what the fuck is that and for

00:50:26.139 --> 00:50:28.900
once it's like that's really cool what a clever

00:50:28.900 --> 00:50:34.949
idea to have The alien ship be the alien. Yeah.

00:50:35.010 --> 00:50:38.409
That is a clever idea. And it's eating stuff,

00:50:38.510 --> 00:50:40.869
like sucking it up and then spitting out the

00:50:40.869 --> 00:50:42.809
bits it doesn't want. That's what kills the dad.

00:50:42.889 --> 00:50:44.650
Yeah, because it's been there since the dad died.

00:50:44.929 --> 00:50:46.949
Yeah. It's been around for longer than that,

00:50:47.010 --> 00:50:49.230
I think they kind of aim at. And yeah, the fact

00:50:49.230 --> 00:50:51.329
is, it's just, they realise, they look up at

00:50:51.329 --> 00:50:53.329
the sky and it's like, that cloud doesn't move

00:50:53.329 --> 00:50:55.550
and it's there all the time. And it's like...

00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:58.559
That's really creepy, actually. It's such a good

00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:03.960
idea that it disguises itself. It is the cloud.

00:51:04.260 --> 00:51:06.440
And then when it's in this kind of hunter mode,

00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:08.659
it's kind of just what you would call a traditional

00:51:08.659 --> 00:51:12.460
UFO, a flying saucer. But when it's finally exposed,

00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:17.820
it's this kind of... It is Lovecraftian. It's

00:51:17.820 --> 00:51:21.000
this Lovecraftian kind of... mass of it looks

00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:24.880
like a big moth shapes and moth and yeah um concentric

00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:28.639
kind of shapes it's it's something really different

00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:32.659
made of silk as well so like it felt like as

00:51:32.659 --> 00:51:34.599
particularly right near the end when it was starting

00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:36.880
to unfurl it just looked like it's made of fabric

00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.619
or a very thin skin yes like really waving you

00:51:40.619 --> 00:51:43.719
could start seeing it kind of look a bit pumpkin

00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:45.780
shaped almost you know with the kind of bridges

00:51:45.780 --> 00:51:47.380
around it rather than being this smooth disc

00:51:47.380 --> 00:51:49.159
with a hole underneath well yeah so it kind of

00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:50.840
kind of expands out it kind of looks like it's

00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.360
a lattice almost yeah yeah it kind of just it

00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:56.139
keeps on expanding out and then it's uh as i

00:51:56.139 --> 00:51:58.099
said concentric geometric all these different

00:51:58.099 --> 00:52:01.800
shapes that it kind of just expands into and

00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:03.900
then it's just really clever and it's actually

00:52:03.900 --> 00:52:07.159
you know what this is it's beautiful to look

00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.239
at but it's something so different it worked

00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:14.519
yeah that's the thing we didn't need Oh, well,

00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.619
actually, what it is, it's just the greys. We

00:52:17.619 --> 00:52:21.920
didn't need War of the Worlds -esque. It just

00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:25.099
shoves it in and it munches it up and that's

00:52:25.099 --> 00:52:29.019
it. Yeah. We get something very different. It

00:52:29.019 --> 00:52:31.119
was quite believable, to be fair, because of

00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.739
it. Well, it's a predator. Yeah. We don't know

00:52:35.739 --> 00:52:37.860
how many there are. Is this the only one on Earth?

00:52:38.820 --> 00:52:42.690
But it's here. And it hunts and it eats and it's

00:52:42.690 --> 00:52:45.630
top of the food chain on our planet. Yeah. And

00:52:45.630 --> 00:52:47.869
that's what makes it even creepier because it's

00:52:47.869 --> 00:52:51.750
like, yeah, okay, that works. There's no need

00:52:51.750 --> 00:52:54.429
for it to be manned by little grey men or whatever.

00:52:54.809 --> 00:52:57.789
It is the next thing up in the food chain. It's

00:52:57.789 --> 00:52:59.190
just turned up. We don't know where it's come

00:52:59.190 --> 00:53:01.929
from, but it's here now. And they don't need

00:53:01.929 --> 00:53:04.329
to explain it. No. They don't need to do any

00:53:04.329 --> 00:53:06.909
more than that. It's here. This is it. Nope.

00:53:07.539 --> 00:53:09.139
exactly and like peter griffin would have been

00:53:09.139 --> 00:53:10.900
loving it because he does say it quite a few

00:53:10.900 --> 00:53:14.699
times yeah when like he's in the car and he kind

00:53:14.699 --> 00:53:16.400
of opens the door a bit and looks up and it's

00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.940
above him just because he goes nope or when like

00:53:19.940 --> 00:53:23.190
he has the uh steven yun's kids are pretending

00:53:23.190 --> 00:53:25.550
to be the aliens which was fucking me up and

00:53:25.550 --> 00:53:27.809
i thought yeah they were the aliens i thought

00:53:27.809 --> 00:53:30.329
okay that was a brilliantly done scene because

00:53:30.329 --> 00:53:32.690
they those kids acted it so well the floppy arms

00:53:32.690 --> 00:53:35.190
and the one that goes around the door with an

00:53:35.190 --> 00:53:37.630
arm flopping down i was like looking back now

00:53:37.630 --> 00:53:41.289
you know full well of course it was them being

00:53:41.289 --> 00:53:43.969
like yeah kids mucking about but when you first

00:53:43.969 --> 00:53:48.929
see it see it it's like shit, is this real? Is

00:53:48.929 --> 00:53:51.949
this what this is? Yeah, and his fight or flight

00:53:51.949 --> 00:53:55.750
response, Hayward's, is not fight or flight.

00:53:55.889 --> 00:53:58.590
It's just accept it's happening and get your

00:53:58.590 --> 00:54:00.489
phone out and record it. Because that's what

00:54:00.489 --> 00:54:01.929
he does. He just kind of steps back a bit, gets

00:54:01.929 --> 00:54:03.769
his phone out, and then when all three of them

00:54:03.769 --> 00:54:05.809
appear and they kind of waddle, then he goes,

00:54:05.889 --> 00:54:08.469
nope. Again, he goes, nope. But that's what people

00:54:08.469 --> 00:54:10.130
would do, isn't it? Most people would judge it.

00:54:10.130 --> 00:54:11.610
I was like, right, okay, we've got weird green

00:54:11.610 --> 00:54:15.190
alien, grey alien in front of me. Half my size.

00:54:15.630 --> 00:54:18.269
I can probably take that. Three of them? Nope.

00:54:18.550 --> 00:54:24.389
Yeah, I can't really praise this film enough.

00:54:24.469 --> 00:54:27.489
I didn't find it long, but then again, I watched

00:54:27.489 --> 00:54:28.989
it over two nights because it's just the way

00:54:28.989 --> 00:54:32.940
timing worked for me. No, of course. I've thoroughly

00:54:32.940 --> 00:54:34.940
enjoyed it. I do want to watch it on my actual

00:54:34.940 --> 00:54:37.320
big TV all the way through, lights off, sound

00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.519
is up as loud as I can get it. Genuinely, you

00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:42.139
have to because it is a treat. The sound design,

00:54:42.260 --> 00:54:45.239
incredible. I think, for my opinion, it's another

00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.119
masterpiece from him. I really like his stuff.

00:54:49.380 --> 00:54:51.539
And the fact that... He knows how to do fucked

00:54:51.539 --> 00:54:54.980
up. It's beautifully limited in scenes as well.

00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:56.460
If you think, you could probably count them,

00:54:56.500 --> 00:55:02.730
couldn't you? So we have film set, ranch. The

00:55:02.730 --> 00:55:07.070
other ranch. Documentary person's house. AV room.

00:55:07.449 --> 00:55:12.610
Yeah, the supermarket Dixon's version of whatever

00:55:12.610 --> 00:55:15.269
America has. Yeah. There's a cafe or restaurant

00:55:15.269 --> 00:55:18.590
or something. They go in briefly. Yep. But that's

00:55:18.590 --> 00:55:21.690
it. Yeah. So it's a beautifully simple film.

00:55:21.769 --> 00:55:23.550
You're not trying to keep track of where everything

00:55:23.550 --> 00:55:26.449
is. It's just everything's there that you need

00:55:26.449 --> 00:55:29.750
to know. Small cast, not grand scale, personal.

00:55:30.269 --> 00:55:32.809
All three of his films, very personal. Yeah.

00:55:32.969 --> 00:55:35.769
Okay, all right. Us does turn into a grand scheme

00:55:35.769 --> 00:55:39.050
thing, but it's still focused around a family.

00:55:39.309 --> 00:55:41.750
But you come away feeling like you know everyone

00:55:41.750 --> 00:55:44.369
in the film as well. So you know Angel's basically

00:55:44.369 --> 00:55:47.869
just, he's just this unhappy virgin who's doing

00:55:47.869 --> 00:55:51.289
his best to try and find a woman. He is an AV

00:55:51.289 --> 00:55:55.929
nerd trope. Oh, absolutely. But that fits for

00:55:55.929 --> 00:55:58.530
that purpose. Yeah. Because you needed that character.

00:55:59.130 --> 00:56:01.250
And then, like we've already said, M's growth

00:56:01.250 --> 00:56:07.250
by the end of it. Even his... Is it OJ? OJ, yeah.

00:56:07.389 --> 00:56:09.829
Yeah, OJ's growth by the end of it as well. He's

00:56:09.829 --> 00:56:12.150
gone from being this stammering, quiet person

00:56:12.150 --> 00:56:16.269
who can't fill his father's boots to, no, we

00:56:16.269 --> 00:56:18.010
are doing this. We're going to make this happen

00:56:18.010 --> 00:56:21.530
and this is what we're doing now and leading

00:56:21.530 --> 00:56:24.510
the way. Even Angel grows, doesn't he? Yeah.

00:56:24.909 --> 00:56:28.150
The documentary person as well. brilliantly cast,

00:56:28.289 --> 00:56:30.869
brilliant ideas with him. And he knew what was

00:56:30.869 --> 00:56:32.469
going to happen because he's so used to wild

00:56:32.469 --> 00:56:34.670
animals as well. That was the thing. He knew

00:56:34.670 --> 00:56:36.449
that the thing was going to, was pretending to

00:56:36.449 --> 00:56:38.110
run away and was going to come back. That's why

00:56:38.110 --> 00:56:40.230
he ran away from everything. So it's like, it

00:56:40.230 --> 00:56:41.949
kind of leaves you thinking like, did the film

00:56:41.949 --> 00:56:44.329
survive? Well, this is it, isn't it? You're kind

00:56:44.329 --> 00:56:46.389
of left with the idea as well at the end of it.

00:56:46.570 --> 00:56:49.030
Did they survive? I know you see them in the

00:56:49.030 --> 00:56:52.760
dust at the end. Is that them surviving? Is that

00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.320
just... Well, I'm not sure OJ's alive. Well,

00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:58.199
this is it. We don't know. It's just like, is

00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:00.500
one of them dead? And this is just kind of the

00:57:00.500 --> 00:57:03.159
remnants we're seeing? I think OJ's dead and

00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:05.440
it's just his silhouette there. Because he doesn't

00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:08.079
move. Nope. It's just him standing there and

00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.280
eventually the sand kind of dissipates and he's

00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:13.019
not moving. And I think it's just her being like,

00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:18.099
you know, my brother. And the ending. What a

00:57:18.099 --> 00:57:22.769
way to kill it. really clever completely out

00:57:22.769 --> 00:57:26.730
of the box idea just no i had no idea that that's

00:57:26.730 --> 00:57:28.889
what they would do giant balloon it tries to

00:57:28.889 --> 00:57:31.690
digest it and it ends up blowing itself up because

00:57:31.690 --> 00:57:33.429
it tries to compress all the air yeah it's all

00:57:33.429 --> 00:57:37.030
the helium in the balloon i guess it just ends

00:57:37.030 --> 00:57:39.789
up in its intestines and stomach them it's interesting

00:57:39.789 --> 00:57:44.170
because really so dupe is steven yun's character

00:57:44.170 --> 00:57:48.360
he his demise isn't even his fault. He's been

00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:51.380
feeding that thing a horse at 6 .30 every day.

00:57:51.539 --> 00:57:54.579
Yes. The reason the thing's pissed off is because

00:57:54.579 --> 00:57:57.820
she nicked one of his fake horses and fed it

00:57:57.820 --> 00:58:00.219
to it. Yes, exactly. And it's pissed off that

00:58:00.219 --> 00:58:02.380
it got fed a metal once. It got fed a metal with

00:58:02.380 --> 00:58:06.739
the bunting hanging. So from his perspective,

00:58:06.860 --> 00:58:08.780
the alien's perspective is like, they tried to

00:58:08.780 --> 00:58:12.559
kill me. So now he's probably... thought that

00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.820
it was the guy who's been feeding me horses this

00:58:14.820 --> 00:58:17.559
whole time yeah so he's getting revenge he takes

00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:19.519
you now he takes everyone out all they know his

00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:20.800
kids would have gone the wife would have gone

00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:22.820
all of the people all those people there and

00:58:22.820 --> 00:58:24.719
then you see them in what i was calling this

00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.440
the alien vagina like they're all getting crushed

00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:33.059
in this really claustrophobic it's horrible isn't

00:58:33.059 --> 00:58:36.920
it really uncomfortable and like and you don't

00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.719
at first you think oh they're just when it shows

00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:42.320
you one it follows one woman getting sucked inside

00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.219
it doesn't it and you see her kind of getting

00:58:44.219 --> 00:58:47.860
contractile vacuole up and yeah and they're kind

00:58:47.860 --> 00:58:50.239
of sucking so you don't know what you don't you

00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.719
can't tell until she gets to the skeleton of

00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.699
a horse no but it's done really nicely as well

00:58:55.699 --> 00:58:57.320
so i mean yeah you could look at it you can go

00:58:57.320 --> 00:58:59.099
right basically just waving some curtains around

00:58:59.099 --> 00:59:01.880
them on the on the film set i don't know if it

00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:04.980
was practical or what whatever they did though

00:59:04.980 --> 00:59:07.639
worked because as you say as she progresses up

00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:09.280
and then there's just like the skeleton and then

00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.400
you realize everything is starting to go a bit

00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:13.619
okay and they're basically getting crushed to

00:59:13.619 --> 00:59:16.820
death slowly while it digests them that is fucked

00:59:16.820 --> 00:59:21.079
up and yeah again as soon as you realize that

00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.559
the noises that the alien makes are their screams

00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:27.940
barking hell. And it can also control it because

00:59:27.940 --> 00:59:30.440
it goes and sits above the house, doesn't it?

00:59:30.460 --> 00:59:32.340
And then crushes them all at once. It literally

00:59:32.340 --> 00:59:35.719
just rains down the remnants across the house,

00:59:35.780 --> 00:59:37.699
which is the scene with the horrible sound. And

00:59:37.699 --> 00:59:39.960
as I say, when you listen to it on your surround

00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:41.980
sound system, you'll see what I mean about how

00:59:41.980 --> 00:59:46.199
disturbing it is. It's up there with a vent horizon

00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.539
when he's crawling through the circuit boards.

00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:52.960
Yeah. And you get the screaming going 360. It's

00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:56.900
up there with that sound design. It's just disturbed.

00:59:57.079 --> 00:59:59.019
It's brilliant. And obviously, I mean, we haven't

00:59:59.019 --> 01:00:00.780
even talked about the father's death at the beginning.

01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:03.980
Yeah. Just basically hammered with loads and

01:00:03.980 --> 01:00:06.559
loads of bits and pieces that had just been dumped

01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.980
out of this alien. Basically, it takes a crap

01:00:08.980 --> 01:00:11.099
on him. Because at first, you do kind of believe

01:00:11.099 --> 01:00:13.320
the idea where they were saying an airplane accident

01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:17.480
dumping cargo. Yeah. You believe it. Until that

01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:19.539
house scene where just before the blood comes

01:00:19.539 --> 01:00:23.199
out, loads of keys and coins and metal stuff

01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:26.000
falling down like the it's getting rid of the

01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:28.420
stuff it couldn't digest and now i'm going to

01:00:28.420 --> 01:00:31.500
crush all the people i'm going to manually crush

01:00:31.500 --> 01:00:34.039
everyone inside me and spew all of their blood

01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:36.420
all over your house and and you know a normal

01:00:36.420 --> 01:00:39.460
film any other scene past then would have a clean

01:00:39.460 --> 01:00:41.579
house again because they cleaned up they never

01:00:41.579 --> 01:00:44.800
do it It never gets cleaned. It just gets rotted

01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:46.960
and rotted more throughout the next couple of

01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:48.679
days that the film continues. And the reason

01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:50.579
that I'm so glad this was kind of a Jordan Peele

01:00:50.579 --> 01:00:54.719
film is he leaves it open -ended. We don't know

01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.219
anything about this alien. We don't see... This

01:00:58.219 --> 01:01:00.079
Hollywood kick -ass, we're going to kick the

01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:02.679
aliens' ass, blah, blah, blah. We get a real

01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:04.900
ragtag, we don't know if this idea is going to

01:01:04.900 --> 01:01:06.539
work, but let's give it a try sort of thing at

01:01:06.539 --> 01:01:08.840
the end, and thankfully it does work. But if

01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:10.880
this had been any other Hollywood director, let's

01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:13.719
face it, it would have been... well, no one goes

01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:15.519
up that mountain because it's so dangerous to

01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:17.320
get up there. Well, we're going to send an expedition

01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:18.980
up there and they'll climb up the mountain and

01:01:18.980 --> 01:01:20.900
you just find all the carcasses and it would

01:01:20.900 --> 01:01:22.659
just be red up there from the blood. It's like,

01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:24.800
oh my God, this is where it goes and obviously

01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:27.159
Digestion just dumps it all down and then they'd

01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:29.019
come up with some plan to destroy it and it would

01:01:29.019 --> 01:01:31.460
just, it would not work as a Hollywood movie.

01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:33.460
Put grenades in your pocket and get eaten and

01:01:33.460 --> 01:01:36.139
blown up just like in World of the Worlds. It

01:01:36.139 --> 01:01:38.880
wouldn't have worked as a Hollywood blockbuster

01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:42.980
but as the type of film that, I know Jordan Peele

01:01:42.980 --> 01:01:44.679
obviously is aiming for Hollywood blockbuster.

01:01:44.820 --> 01:01:47.840
That's not the right way to say it, but it's

01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:50.519
not an atypical Hollywood blockbuster. Let's

01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:53.019
put it that way. And that's what makes this work.

01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.980
It doesn't hold your hand. At no point did it

01:01:55.980 --> 01:01:58.340
tell you. It gave you all the information you

01:01:58.340 --> 01:02:02.440
needed to know about... Every aspect of it. And

01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:04.900
then when it came to how they were figuring out

01:02:04.900 --> 01:02:07.599
where it was in the sky by having all the flappy

01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:12.260
waving arm tube men around their whole field

01:02:12.260 --> 01:02:15.059
and then stole all the car batteries from all

01:02:15.059 --> 01:02:17.579
the dead people at the ranch. And then as it

01:02:17.579 --> 01:02:19.860
flew over, because it creates some electromagnetic

01:02:19.860 --> 01:02:22.679
field beneath it, they would stop working so

01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:24.980
they could track it. What an amazing idea. They

01:02:24.980 --> 01:02:27.579
never at any point tell you that's what they're

01:02:27.579 --> 01:02:31.000
doing until it's happening and you go. Oh, because

01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.019
he's already given you all of the information

01:02:34.019 --> 01:02:38.539
that you needed. Now, I've not got much else

01:02:38.539 --> 01:02:40.480
to say about this, but I'm going to give you

01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:42.840
a little bit of a surprise here. To give you

01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:45.679
an idea of how much I think about this film and

01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:49.320
how ingrained is it on me, I didn't watch this.

01:02:49.860 --> 01:02:52.860
I saw it at the cinema. I've seen it twice on

01:02:52.860 --> 01:02:56.239
my DVDs. I own it on DVD. The last time I watched

01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:59.469
it was about six months ago. Yeah. It's so ingrained

01:02:59.469 --> 01:03:01.829
in the story. I didn't need to rewatch it to

01:03:01.829 --> 01:03:03.789
discuss this episode because I can picture every

01:03:03.789 --> 01:03:07.690
moment of that film still. And for me, that tells

01:03:07.690 --> 01:03:09.909
you how good a film is. If you can still think

01:03:09.909 --> 01:03:12.590
six months later and think of every bit that

01:03:12.590 --> 01:03:14.750
happens in that film, every character, every

01:03:14.750 --> 01:03:17.730
character's name, and know what that film is.

01:03:17.730 --> 01:03:19.309
Yeah, you knew their names then. You weren't...

01:03:19.449 --> 01:03:22.190
No. You just knew it. No, and I haven't bothered

01:03:22.190 --> 01:03:24.289
doing any research for this because I knew exactly

01:03:24.289 --> 01:03:26.250
what I wanted to say about this one already because

01:03:26.250 --> 01:03:28.730
I think it's such a good film. Yeah. Miranda

01:03:28.730 --> 01:03:30.730
didn't want to watch it with me and I'm going

01:03:30.730 --> 01:03:33.070
to make her watch it with me because one, I want

01:03:33.070 --> 01:03:36.119
to watch it on the TV but also I just... I think

01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:39.119
she would actually like it. It's a scary alien

01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:41.360
film. Yes. Which is, again, that's a real nice

01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:44.860
change to have a science fiction alien -based

01:03:44.860 --> 01:03:48.619
film that's scary. But not a jump scare. Not

01:03:48.619 --> 01:03:51.380
a jump scare. It's not something crawling around,

01:03:51.539 --> 01:03:55.159
killing people off. It's, what the fuck is that?

01:03:55.340 --> 01:03:57.960
Yeah. Sort of scare. It's fucked up. It's Jordan

01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:01.320
Peele fucked up. Yes. And I told my dad, I said,

01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:02.760
Dad, you've got to watch this. I think your mum

01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:06.039
won't watch it. I think my dad would really enjoy

01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:10.260
it. You know, I not enough Ramstein, but we can

01:04:10.260 --> 01:04:14.559
get past that. But I, as I, as I said, maybe

01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:16.300
it's just because we've just come off the back

01:04:16.300 --> 01:04:18.460
of that terrible, terrible fucking film that

01:04:18.460 --> 01:04:20.079
I actually thought this was brilliant, but no,

01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:22.969
I don't think it is. I think it is just. Wonderful.

01:04:22.969 --> 01:04:24.969
If you haven't seen it and we haven't spoiled

01:04:24.969 --> 01:04:27.929
it too much for you, go watch it anyway. I am

01:04:27.929 --> 01:04:29.809
definitely going to watch it again. Maybe two

01:04:29.809 --> 01:04:32.809
more times. Maybe three more times. This is really,

01:04:33.030 --> 01:04:36.570
really good. It is brilliant. 100 % worth watching.

01:04:37.070 --> 01:04:40.070
And no, no, no, no, no. I was right. War of the

01:04:40.070 --> 01:04:42.730
Worlds did use real war footage. The dirty bastards.

01:04:42.989 --> 01:04:53.380
Yeah, wankers. Transfer complete. Okay. Next

01:04:53.380 --> 01:04:55.980
time on the Untitled Sci -Fi Show, it is being

01:04:55.980 --> 01:04:59.639
chosen by TJ. So come on, TJ. What are we watching?

01:04:59.820 --> 01:05:02.239
So we have a film that we're watching that's

01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:05.980
linked to Star Trek in some way. Okay. And the

01:05:05.980 --> 01:05:10.099
Evil Dead. And the Evil Dead? It's linked by

01:05:10.099 --> 01:05:12.679
the actors. So our main character of this film

01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:16.550
is Walter Koenig. Yeah. And the second main character

01:05:16.550 --> 01:05:19.750
is Bruce Campbell. And if you hadn't guessed

01:05:19.750 --> 01:05:21.889
what the film is, which I'm very, very surprised

01:05:21.889 --> 01:05:28.650
if anyone did, it's the 1988 film Moontrap. Never

01:05:28.650 --> 01:05:32.489
heard of it. I can see a picture of a robot alien

01:05:32.489 --> 01:05:35.369
thing here. It looks incredible. I saw this when

01:05:35.369 --> 01:05:39.610
I was small. By small, I think I was like nine

01:05:39.610 --> 01:05:42.190
or ten. And my cousin and I were allowed to go

01:05:42.190 --> 01:05:45.900
and rent a couple of videos from... It might

01:05:45.900 --> 01:05:48.159
have been Blockbuster, actually. I don't know.

01:05:48.300 --> 01:05:50.519
And we rented this, and I remember having nightmares

01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:56.860
watching this. For a PG, it's pretty dark. It's

01:05:56.860 --> 01:05:59.519
a PG. I didn't even notice. It's a PG. It's not

01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:04.179
the best of sci -fi films. I've got a very big

01:06:04.179 --> 01:06:11.099
soft spot for it. It's fun. The sequel, however...

01:06:11.369 --> 01:06:14.050
Oh, my God. The sequel is modern. It's atrocious.

01:06:15.190 --> 01:06:19.210
We'll leave it at that. But, yeah, Moontrap 1988,

01:06:19.489 --> 01:06:23.269
and it's available free on YouTube. Oh, wicked

01:06:23.269 --> 01:06:24.449
great. You can watch the whole thing on there.

01:06:24.550 --> 01:06:27.289
Not great quality. It's VHS quality. Oh, who

01:06:27.289 --> 01:06:31.789
cares? That's what we like. Happy? Moontrap.

01:06:33.949 --> 01:06:38.449
Command functions are offline. That's it for

01:06:38.449 --> 01:06:41.559
another fortnight. Thank you everybody for listening

01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:43.739
to the Untitled Cypher Show. I'm Rob, that's

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TJ. We never introduced ourselves at the beginning,

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I don't think, but who gives a fuck? You know

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that I'm Rob and he's TJ, don't you? Yeah, I'm

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the not TJ. And I'm the not Rob. You can find

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us on all social medias, but all those links

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and email addresses can be found on channel84

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.co .uk. We are part of the Studio Channel 84

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network of indie podcasts, where it is this show

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with me and TJ, the Untitled Cypher Show. We

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also... The Variety Show. We are also Super 80s

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Ed with James. We are Lightly Used with Karen

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and Adam. And we are Who Takes Socks Off with

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Simon and Ross. Everyone's links are on Channel

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84 Dakota UK. They're all great. They're lovely

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chaps and chapette. Go and follow them. Follow,

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follow, follow. And listen. Love, love, email.

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I don't know what else that people do. Turn up

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at their houses and do fellatio on their doorsteps.

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Analingus. Analingus. Is that like analingus?

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It's like rimming. I think it is actually just

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rimming. It's just rimming. Didn't we talk about

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rusty trombones last time as well? I don't know,

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but you've got a rusty dump truck on Roadcraft

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and that's what I call my arsehole. He's so great.

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See you later, everyone. Bye. Thank you for listening

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