I've been watching you, Jack. So I'll never leave
here. You'll leave at 5. Well, actually, they
stagger our exit, so 5 .15. Hello and welcome
to the Untitled Sci -Fi Show. I nearly said Trek
then, nearly fucked it up within four seconds.
It's not been the Untitled Trek Show for quite
a while now. No, why did I think about it? Oh,
it's in my head because of the website. The URLs
being all over the place, plus the RSS feed being
the wrong name, which we're never going to change.
Yeah, we can't change it. Get over it. I don't
think anyone ever notices. I don't even ever
notice, really. No, I don't think so, because
most people access it through the podcast app,
so they don't see what the RSS feed is anyway.
Yeah, I mean, who even grabs it? It's like the
Google spiders going around and looking for that.
I don't know. Anyway, nice week. Not bad, thank
you, dude. Not bad. Been a bit chaotic with family
things, but been able to do a few things, so
it's not too bad. Good. Right. We've got, I guess,
the intro to talk about. Ooh. Enter authorization
code. Right. We had no entries. I had messages
from people saying, oh, I don't know one of them,
or I don't know... the second one or do you know
what I mean? But no one actually ever sent me
anything that they actually did know. So that's
not particularly great, is it? No. And have you
listened to it? I've listened to it. I really
struggled with it. And I thought, you know what?
I'm just going to do it live with you. Yeah,
because you'll get it now without the other stuff.
I did have a slight complaint from somebody that
the mix wasn't great at the end. Because I said
that they should definitely know what the last
one is. And of course, this isn't a guess the
intro, is it? It's a guess the connection. No,
it is. You've got to guess every single one and
also a connection. Yeah, okay. But yeah, it's
the special one. So, let's unmute that. Remember
this time. Ready. Steady. Go. Cook. Ready, steady,
cook. Come on. Biggest baddest slayer in the
game doesn't seem like much, does he? Right,
that's a very quick one. Biggest baddest slayer
in the game doesn't seem like much, does he?
Are these games, by the way, or film? Films.
Films. I think it's about Slayer. I haven't got...
I mean, Slayer means things of Buffy the Vampire
Slayer, but obviously it's not that because it's
films. Mm -hmm. So if we're talking about Slayer,
we're talking about vampires, is this one of
the Blade films? No. Oh. Any clues? Have I written
it down? Yes, I have. I have. So, Gerald Butler
is in this film, and so is the guy who's in Dexter.
Miranda's here, everybody. Say hello, Miranda.
Hello. Name a film, Miranda, that's got Gerald
Butler in it, and also the guy from Dexter. I
just sent you the file for, I guess, the intro,
so if you play it, the very first clip is the
clip we're talking about. Have I seen it? Well,
you might not have seen it. We've got it on DVD.
DVD. DVD. DVD. I like to watch... I'm actually
just cheating now. I've gone to IMDB. It's got
to be a 90s or 2000s film, I presume. It's got
to be in 2000s. I think it's 90. 2000s. There's
a great dance scene. Got a dance scene? Yep.
That's not the Phantom of the Opera. Let me give
you some more clues. Yeah. Oh, Dracula 2000.
No. So Gerard Butler's character... Is being
controlled by a kid. Oh, that's just a little
bit odd. Using like a VR kind of thing. Oh, um...
I thought I knew. No, I'm just singing Spider
-Pig. No, I know you're doing Spider -Man, Spider
-Man. Goes around in his mum's minivan. Oh, he's
singing Spider -Pig. Can't you tell the subtle
differences between Spider -Man and Spider -Pig?
I don't. Am I going to need to tell you both,
Miranda? No idea? You're going to have to tell
me. The film is called Gamer. Gamer. Gamer. Are
you sure that's Gerard Butler? I'm pretty sure
that's Gerard Butler. It is Gerard Butler, isn't
it, Brian? Oh, yeah, 2009. There you go. Yeah.
I remember hearing about it. I didn't know it
was Gerard Butler. It's Gerard Butler. So, yeah,
the kids, he's a prison convict, and they basically
get told you're going to be part of an FPS game.
Yes, exactly. Exactly. Next. Never lick. You
bite straight to the chocolatey centre of the
Tootsie Pop. See, I recognise the voice, but
again, I've got no idea. You never lick, you
always bite straight to the centre of the Tootsie
Pop. Miranda, any ideas? It's a film you absolutely
love. You've seen it a million times. It's based
on a book. They've recently released a second
book, directed by Steven Spielberg. Oh, okay.
It's a Spielberg, is it? The Almanac is a word
that's used in it. Oh, it's one of the... Back
to the Future 2? Nope. Oh. There is references
to Back to the Future in it. There's lots of
references to lots of stuff. There's references
to Gundam. Ready Player One. Oh, that's why I
recognise the voice. Yeah, that's the bad guy
talking to the other bad guy. Is virtual reality
the connection? No. We'll get there. You set
up a romantic rendezvous between me. Serena Williams
and Martha Stewart. Set up a romantic rendezvous
with me, Serena Williams and Martha Stewart.
And it's Peter Dinklage who is saying that. Now
this film, it looks like you're going to need
to hit hints again. Always. Critically panned.
Massively panned. Lots of people hated this.
It's one of those comedy films by Happy Gilmore
Guy. Oh, Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler film. Is
this the video game one? It is a video game one,
yes. Come on. It's got Pac -Man as the big title.
Go on, Miranda. You brought me this on Blu -ray.
Pixels. Pixels, that's it. You brought it for
me on Blu -ray. Did I watch it on my own? I don't
think it deserved the haste it got. I quite enjoyed
it. It was silly and it was fun. They're doing
a sequel. Oh, really? It warranted a sequel.
Pixels 2? Happy Gilmore 2 came out. I haven't
seen Happy Gilmore 1. Neither have I, and it's
meant to be amazing. But no, basically, I think
Adam Sandler's suddenly been told, you haven't
done anything for ages, here's money. Yeah. Next
one. It was his first mission! And it's not going
to be my last! And again, I recognise it, but
I can't tell you anything about it. You have
spoken about this, that was The Rock, on this
show. A few times. The Rock. Okay. That is Dwayne
The Rock Johnson. So it's not Fast and the Furious.
We know that much. It's not Fast and the Furious.
No, it's not Jumanji. It's one of his first kind
of forays into the movie scene. Oh, okay. You
know what? I actually quite like the Jumanji
films with him. The two modern ones. As much
as I love the original, the two The Rock Jumanjis
I really quite like. And not just because of
Karen Gillan. Okay, so there is a scene in this
film, okay, The camera gets put on the gun. Oh,
Doom. It's Doom, yes. Doom, yeah. Along with
Carl Urban, and it's an atrocity of a film. It's
fucking dreadful, and I've got it on DVD. In
comparison to the games. Oh, sweet Jesus. What
did you do? Next. He killed my friends. No, I
did. He killed my friends. No, I did. That could
be any number. I'll give you, well. Miranda would
know if she heard it. She's not listening to
this. So it's a TV series. They've now had two
seasons of it. Pedro Pascal is in this TV series.
Oh, is it The Mandalorian? No. Oh, The Last of
Us. Mushroom people. Abby. You know, The Last
of Us is the start of the Mushroom Kingdom. That
is, it's going to link into Mario eventually.
Everyone that's slowly becoming mushrooms will
eventually become Toad. This is Elle talking
to Abby where she gets captured in season two.
No, she doesn't. She's lovely. Next one. Ass
jerky don't make itself. Okay. Now, that's a
hard one to hear with the other stuff over it.
He says, Volty ass jerky doesn't make itself.
This is a TV series. They've just announced a
second series. The trailer just came out of Gamescom,
the second series trailer. I spoke about this
to Miranda yesterday, so she's got to try and
remember it. So who would say the word, what
would have the word vaulty in it as a slur for
someone who comes from a vault? Oh, it's... Fallout.
Fallout. That's it. So I'm thinking VOLTY is
V -O -L -T -Y. It's in electricity. Yeah, so
this is the ghoul guy talking to... Oh, Mr. No
-Nos. Yeah, who's talking to the girl who comes
out of the vault and he's saying... It's what
he's calling a VOLTY. Ah. Okay, so all of those
work. Okay, you two have got to guess the connection
now. Miranda, are you listening? Ready Player
One, Pixels, Gamer, Fallout, Doom, The Last of
Us. What is the connection? Games. Yeah. There
you go. Well done. Easy one. Told you it was
an easy one. I think a lot of people are going
to send you hatred now. Well, no one guessed
any of them or sent anything in, so they can
all suck my feet. Go on then. What have you been
doing? I have actually done quite a bit. Let's
talk strange new worlds. oh yes i was saying
i've seen the first three episodes finally i
was saying to the wife that you said that you
want to talk about the second episode so do i
but it's been such a long time since i watched
it you're gonna have to tell me what happened
to it so i can second episode sexy nurse chapel
gets married or is gonna be a very sexy green
outfit yes and it's got the hughes son yeah basically
it's q we know it's q no it's not q it's his
son Yeah, but Q turns up. Oh, Q turns up. It's
the same actor. Yeah, exactly. It is the Q continuum
in an early phase of the series. Absolutely brilliant.
Not sure, and this is going to come on to another
show that I've watched this week as well. What
the fuck? In the Star Trek era, they have just
made Wake Me Up Before You Go go canon to Star
Trek. Is it in it? Is it? It's the very end dance
they are all doing. Once it's all over. and they
just start dancing, it is George Michael singing.
Oh, I don't remember. As I said, for me, in reality,
everybody, it's probably been about a month since
I watched this. It literally goes full on to
Wake Me Up Before You Go Go, and then I can't
think of the character's name, which is really
bad. I Fly the Ship goes off and beats up a bag,
and we kind of see that she's having mental images
of the gore. She's having PTSD. She's got PTSD,
essentially. Well, I don't know, is it? I think
it is. Is it PTSD or have the Gorn got some way
of putting some sort of subconscious mental image
of themselves into them that's going to cause
her to go a bit loopy because obviously in the
next episode she starts breaking all the rules
and putting them in danger. Yeah, she's being
a... That's what I had in the other episode.
I mean, it probably is PTSD, but I'm going along
the lines still that it could well be that they've
implanted something in her brain, in her memory,
in her mind that's kind of trying to... It's
kind of a bit Borg -esque, though, don't you
think, with that? A little bit. That's a little
bit like they've done that with the Borg, you
know. Well, they didn't Picard, didn't they?
Yes, this subliminal message going on. But, yeah,
no, so the second episode, we've got Q -Sun...
beautiful beautiful set designs and outfits and
everything like that and the whole change of
the whole universe just so mr spock can get back
with nurse chapel yeah absolutely brilliant and
it's such there's so many parts of it so when
the spocks literally just stood at the table
while they're explaining how they met on this
date and fell in love and he's like well yes
because that's your mother it's like yeah we're
kind of getting to that point there spock don't
try and one -up him So it's kind of really, really
awkward. But no, it's just a really solid episode.
And I love the throwbacks to various things.
And the whole cue idea was brilliant. I love
the fact that they don't say it's the cue, hence
the reason they've managed to keep it canon.
So the first cue you come across is TNG. There's
no records of it. And that's why. And it's nice
that they can go back and actually say, no, we
can have it. We just won't have them say who
they are. Yeah. But, you know, other people know
because, you know, so that is. So Q's son is
in TNG as well or is he in Voyager? It's Voyager.
Yeah. So that's two times they've done Voyager
links now. Yeah. Because it's the same Orchid
and now it's the same Q. Yeah. Also, there were
a load of TikToks going, did you hear the holodeck
sound? Is this just all a holodeck simulation
going on? They wouldn't do that. They wouldn't
do that. No. So don't go there. Yeah. How many
episodes have you seen? I'm up to the third one.
So I've just finished the third one. I look forward
to watching the fourth one. And it's just like,
hang on a moment. So we've just gone from all
lovey -dovey weird Q stuff. And now we're in
Star Trek Resident Evil. What the fuck is going
on? I was like, oh, hang on. Normal Klingons.
Nearly. Yeah, nearly normal Klingons. Yeah, I
think because we've watched four of them. They're
all great. And there was some originally boring
Mugwatch. Eventually got pretty good Mugwatch.
Two mugs, a mug and a teacup. There's loads of
mugs in episode two. Loads of them. Well, I'm
calling them mugs, but I just mean drinking vessels.
There's like a tiny little fishbowl shot glass.
Yes. That was a really nice one. Oh, what a brilliant
moment. It's like meeting the bartender. It's
like, are you thinking what I'm thinking? Yeah,
I think I am. Are you inviting me to work on
the Starship? Yeah. That's just brilliant, isn't
it? We've got stellar cartography. We've got
science. We've got doctor. We've got a three
-armed bartender now. Yeah. So I've spoken about
Saurian brandy on the show before in the shit
show, but you saw a bottle of it. They actually
had it. It was like a weird kind of necked bottle
thing, if I'm trying to remember, because I didn't
write down exactly what it looked like. But I've
written down here. It looks brilliant. They drink
Guinness at the end. In like some weird embossed
glass. I was like, oh, that's really nice. Well,
there was one bit that they obviously have been
hearing everyone talk about it. captain's girlfriend
says about him going to her ship is like but
where will all your hair product go yeah i love
that line that was so good because they obviously
they did the panning image to start with with
their two hair brushes next to each other yeah
there's just all this hair stuff but they know
that they must obviously know but did i say about
when we watched the first episode and it does
the recap and then so if you watch the recap
and then it immediately goes to the same scene
but in in the show and like that's filmed differently
because his hair is suddenly really nice. I think
I might have said he watched it. But yeah, Stranger
Things is brilliant. We just haven't got round
to watching the next ones yet. No, I just haven't
had a chance to. Now, the third episode, as I
said, it goes zombie. So obviously the Gorn has
gone wrong in his girlfriend and they need the
flower of a plant and no one's told him that,
by the way, there's a really high risk it might
just turn her into a weird Gorn hybrid for the
rest of her life. Whoopsie. Yeah. The Klingons
turn up, hunting for the Doctor, who's a mass
murderer of Klingon people, which we kind of
already knew, but he makes it really badass.
Yeah. I like the Doctor. The Doctor's brilliant.
He's really good. He's one of my favourite characters,
which means he's going to die. Because he's got
a good storyline. He's got a good back history,
and they've kind of drip -fed it enough to make
it interesting and not over the top. Because
what they're doing is... They are really leaning
into the fact that the war with the Klingons
is not that long ago. So all of these people
on these starships just trying to explore are
all veterans of war. And some of them did some
bad things or had some bad things happen to them.
Which ends with him saying, well, are you going
to report me? He's like, well, there was no incident
on that planet. So what am I going to report?
What am I going to report, huh? exactly yeah
fine okay i did terrible things i'll keep it
hush yeah and i like the idea that the um the
doctor is actually basically just like an sas
hitman well don't forget in the first uh the
second series when he's with chapel they take
the drug on board the fake starship yeah it's
like we did it before we killed lots of people
we're gonna have to do it again it's like okay
um So this is actually the episode that made
me think more about the fact that is it a Gorn
implanted memory thing? Because obviously she's
got a Gorn inside her and Spock goes over and
then mind melds. And rather than getting mind
meld with her, he gets suddenly controlled by
this image of a Gorn, which causes him to punch.
Poor old Ensign No -Name across the... Actually,
no, he'd just got a name, so they couldn't kill
him, they'd named him. He'd just got a name,
yeah, and he's not in the correct uniform. I've
got a name, I'm not going to die! Yeah. And then
he gets punched across the floor. He had a lot
of lines in episode one. That's what made me
think is the Gorn thing some sort of implanted
thing. So have they implanted... Or does an implanted
memory, which basically causes... I don't know,
do they always end up wanting to go back to the
Gorn and then they get kind of re -eaten or...
I don't know. That's the only thing that's made
me think, is there something more to it? This
is going to sound really bad. Everyone's going
to hate me for this. So that guy, the new doctor
helper, gives me a fear that the other doctor's
going to die. Now, the reason I say that is because...
Oh, but he's a nurse, which makes me then think...
You have to listen to what I'm saying. So in
The Walking Dead, which I've watched a lot of...
Whenever they brought in a new character, they
were replacing another one. Now, there's a trope
that me and a few other people who watched it
noticed that when they were bringing in a person
of colour, a person of a colour was going to
die. And that was consistent throughout multiple
seasons of The Walking Dead. Okay, fair enough.
So that could be a possibility. I would put it
down to possibly that maybe Chapel just didn't
get as much filming on this one, whether she
was doing something else. Maybe she's going to
disappear off with new boyfriend and actually
get married and we'll just lose her for a few
episodes. Not sure. I don't know. I'm hoping
they don't because genuinely the Doctor is a
character who they could do so much with. Yeah.
He is... The stuff with his daughter in season
one, absolutely brilliant. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
that really helped because I think... It made
him human. That made him one of the strongest
backstory -filled characters in it. 100 % it
did, 100%. But with episode three, just going
back to the Gorn Insider, it could be that Gorn
Insider is the one that's doing stuff to the
pilot. Well, that's it. Is there some sort of
psychic connection? I know you said they did
it with the Borg. I don't know. It's very awkward.
Because they are saying it's like a hive mind,
so there must be some kind of telepathy. Which
we got from episode one, didn't we? Yes, they're
kind of using a frequency to, maybe that's where
the Borg got it from. Maybe the Borg early on
assimilated the Gorn. And there's little Gorn
walking around with little lasers with their
little beady head going. You watch them do that.
You watch them have Gorn Borg. Borg Gorn. Yeah,
I'd like to see that. Yeah, well, it's seven
of lizard. Seven of... It's that Gorn noise,
is it? Sniffing around. Anyway, so that's all
the Star Trek I've watched. Okay. Then we play,
I'll get back to TV in a minute, we'll chop and
change, we played some Battlefield 6. We did.
I'm not going to buy it. Is it called Battlefield
6? Yeah, it's called Battlefield 6. It is Battlefield
6. I'm not going to buy it. We did two beta weekends,
beta weekends, however you want to pronounce
it. I enjoyed it. I got horribly frustrated at
the same time. And I just feel like it doesn't
feel like the Battlefield era that we grew up
with. So Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3. They were
particularly good. I can't explain why. Everything
about those games felt right. This feels... It
just felt very, almost generic. It felt like
a generic first -person shooter set in modern
day with a handful of vehicles. Whereas the other
games, it used to feel big. It felt bold. It
felt really powerful. And this just felt, this
is just a running gun. It's almost felt like
COD. Yeah. I'm not sold. Now, I know we've only
played the beta maps. That's fine. They may well...
um when it comes out have absolutely phenomenal
ones and they may listen to a load of the talk
but a load of the talk for example is dickheads
just saying oh i can't believe they've done so
much sniper glare turn off sniper glare it's
unfair Wow. So when I look at the mountain in
the middle of that map, and everyone that's played
the Battlefield 6 and 8 game will know exactly
what we're talking about there. Yeah, yeah. So
when I look out at that mountain right now and
I see the 12 fucking glinting sniper rifles,
because that's what's normally there, no, I won't
see anything. So I'll just be dead from something
that I can't see at all. They cannot remove that.
Well, that's all that people are asking for.
It's hard for fuck's sake. Yeah. Really? It's
the five people who are loud on Twitter. who
play sniper and don't want to have fun in the
game. There is sniper glare in real life. That's
the reason they do it. That's why people don't
just sit there staring through. That's why they
have a spotter with binoculars. The only way
that it would be fair is like you've said offline
before, they'll have to limit the number of snipers.
Two snipers a team and then also... You're only
allowed to be a sniper for a certain amount of
lives. Well, this is it. I think what you do
is you say, we're playing a match that's got
64 players. Let's say you've got 200 lives for
your whole team on each team. Everyone can be
a sniper twice. They can be unlimited support.
They can be unlimited assault, but engineer as
well. Maybe you're limited to. four times or
you're limited to you can only spawn an engineer
if there's vehicles that require engineer work
and the sniper yeah everyone is limited to the
number of times they can use it because otherwise
we were losing matches because half the team
were trying to be snipers and not progressing
up the map so this is the problem with it so
i did actually really like it and i am going
to get it so that's where we different on our
verdict but the actual issues we both have the
same issues the issue with this battlefield and
it has been with every single battlefield since
whenever you have people that play games like
cod or other fps games where it's all about just
killing and you can win yeah You can't do that
in Battlefield. You've got to push the objective.
And we're playing objective -based games like
Conquest, where you have to go to one of, say,
five positions, or Rush, where you've got to
push two positions, then move forward two positions.
And kills don't matter. It's all about getting
the points, and that's how you win. And actually...
Okay, yeah. Kills matter from a defensive perspective.
When you're a defender, you need to knock down
their numbers because then the other team will
lose. So as a defender, yeah, you want to kill
them. So I can understand being a sniper in that
position. But like the attacking team, there's
no point being a sniper. There's no point because
you're just going to lay there. The other team
has an infinite amount of spawns because they're
the defending team. But even on the maps where
it's you... go i guess it's kind of like king
of the hill essentially but with multiple points
it's you get people who just sit there and snipe
and that particular level has got some very strong
elevation points for snipers and if you took
that glare away you would never see them and
the problem is there's lots of issues that i've
got with it the rpg is well, well underpowered.
Massively, massively underpowered. Let's put
it this way. You've got a group of six people
all close to each other. If you, in real life,
put an RPG into the middle of them, they would
be stuffed. They'd be obliterated. This gives
you suppression notification. Yeah, exactly.
What's that? What they should do, they need to
massively ramp up the power of the RPG. I mean,
I can put up with needing to do four hits on
a tank with it. I can put up with that. I can
understand that. Tanks are a big, massive thing.
But for to kill a person? No, you just change
what the damage is like to a person. Or you rank
the damage up like they've done with the grenade
launcher on the assault and give you less rockets.
That's how you solve it. If you want to, when
you've got the assault guy, you've got two grenades,
you can level a building with one grenade. You
cannot with an RPG. The RPG will not blow a hole
in some of the walls. Yeah, and that's exactly
what... You do 15 damage to a tank with an RPG.
You do 85 with a grenade launcher. How is that
the same? So with two grenades, I could blow
the tank up, but... All four or five of my rockets,
the tank is still flipping there. Well, fingers
crossed that's one of the things they're going
to fix. And talking about tanks, I know we both
had this issue and this really did get on my
tits. I don't mind if people spawn into a tank
before me. That is fine. What I care about is
then people spawning into a tank and then refusing
to progress up the battlefield, attempting just
to take pot shots. with the cannon because they
don't want to drive it any forward in case someone
comes towards them, kills them, and they lose
the tank. Tanks are to push objectives. Yeah.
That's what it should be used for. People carrying
push objective, push sniper positions with them.
The sniper's got, okay, they've got C4, but that's
not going to be very... They've got to come out
of their sniper nest to come and do it. They've
got to come out of their nest to do it. You just
cause havoc with a tank. It'll blow up. Who cares?
what two to five minutes later it'll respawn
again get another one exactly and that's what
annoyed me you've got people sitting back in
safe zones yeah trying to pot shot with the cannon
it's like you're doing nothing yeah in fact all
you've done now around on the map we were talking
about around zone c is normal there's just now
full of dust debris and smoke and oh i'm dead
because there's 30 of their bloody team sat there
and i couldn't see a damn thing because all you've
done is put in a load of shells not hit anything
except for rock and you've caused a problem even
if you don't kill anyone with a tank it causes
panic You just drive it into an objective and
everyone scatters. Well, that's it. Exactly.
And if you've loaded it properly, you've got
your whole team in there, drive it in, they jump
out, and boom, if you've contested a spot, one
to five, guess what? You're going to take that
spot. It's a game that, when it comes out, I'm
going to get it, but you want to play it a month
after it's released because all those COD players
will go back to COD and it'll be the people that
understand the Battlefield game still playing
it. Do we know what the release date is? It's
October 19th. So I will get it November Black
Friday. It will be in the sale, no doubt. Then
I might pick it up, especially if there's a couple
more of us getting it so we can kind of have
that traditional, again, something I miss from
the old days, our Bad Company 2 days, when we
would log on as a foursome, not just me and you,
which is what we did over these two weekends,
but we had a foursome and we properly did team
tactics. We stayed tight together and we destroyed
maps. We were awesome. So yeah, maybe we'll see.
Right, that's the game. There's no Black Hawk.
I'm disappointed. No, but let's not talk about
your low -flying skills. Yeah, I need practice,
all right? Okay, final thing I'll talk about,
I think, because I don't think there was much
more sci -fi I'd done. I've watched episode one
of Alien Earth. Ah, we nearly finished episode
one. We were watching it just before you came
and then we started talking. We've got like 10
minutes left of episode one. It's so good. It's
really, really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a
little bit weird watching the Alien universe
knowing that Peter Pan and Ice Age are canon.
Yes. Which is what I meant about linking into
Star Trek earlier. Because what is it? Star Trek's
gone. So it's 2148. So like Ice Age is like 120,
130 years old at that point. They've been really
clever to an extent with this. So it's 2148.
Yeah. all the technology looks pretty ancient
because they've kept it in line with the alien
film but then they've thought well how can we
kind of go ahead with this so they've kind of
shown almost like when people have been in flats
and properties when we see them growing up for
example the property looks like it's from the
70s yeah which fits really nicely so it fits
feels like yeah we've had 30 years maybe or 20
years of sudden mass expansion of technology
which kind of fits with with kind of what does
happen yeah so it it kind of fits it in a weird
way i'm still i still wasn't 100 certain on it
it's still a bit bit jarring seeing them living
in this old flat everything's old wood old tv
crt tv and then suddenly we're in the future
we've got all these futuristic buildings but
even then it's still kind of it still looks right
it's odd It's odd, but it works. Well, it's just
keeping with what they originally had in the
style of Alien films. They haven't tried to reimagine
what 2148 was. If someone made a film now and
goes, oh, it's 2148. Holograms everywhere. It
would look more like probably Blade Runner -y.
It was exactly the one I was going to go with.
It's going to look like Blade Runner, which,
fine. Yeah. Weird thing, though. How did you
end the episode so far? What was the last thing
you saw? The army guys have gone onto the ship
and the black dude has got them at gunpoint.
Fine. Okay, so you haven't seen the bit you're
going to get to, which is particularly confusing
as to why they let her do what she does. So you'll
see what I mean. You go, huh, that is a really
weird thing that they would let her just do this.
Well, she said that she wants to go and help.
Yeah. Okay. But that's as far, and he said yes,
and that's as far as I know. But isn't she like
12 or something? She's meant to be like 12. So
are the other kids. Yeah. But you'll see her
do something as she gets ready to go and help.
Oh, is she going to be like naked? No, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that. She literally
does something, and it's like, and then later
you're seeing her getting onto the ship to go
and help, and that thing is still with her. It's
like, why is someone allowing this? Oh, okay.
So, yeah, you've got that. But the rest of it
feels really good. The whole idea of having,
they've explained away some of it. So you've
got your hybrids, which she is. You've got your
cyborgs, which the bloke on the Survivor is on
the Weyland -Yutani ship. Yeah, yeah. And then
you've got your synthetics, which are from the
original film as well. So I like how they did
that. The alien looked brilliant. So it's cyborgs,
synthetics and hybrids, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah,
the alien looked brilliant. I loved some of the
alien create... The weird eye thing. The weird
eye thing. I loved it. Oh, he's so cute. Look
at him. I can't wait to see what he does. When
the other ones that look like little condoms
with legs kind of suck your face dry and suck
all your blood out into like a giant parasitic
tick thing. That was pretty grim. So I'm looking
forward to what the little eyes do. What have
I been doing? Golly gosh, you basically just
said everything that I have been doing. I win.
Get my notes here. Alien Earth, yes. I said I
played the football game. Did I say that on here
or did I say off air? No, that was off air. So
I played FC25. For some reason, I had a feeling
I wanted to play a football game, which I haven't
done in years. Played it. Played one game, 1
-10 -1. I think I'm just going to leave it like
that and then just never play. Maybe I'll just
never play again. I'm the champion of the world.
100%, mate. 100 % win record. I'm not going to
go back to it. So, yeah, we're watching Wednesday.
So we've watched the four episodes of Wednesday
that they deemed to allow us to watch. Oh, I've
never watched any of that. Because they want
to splurge out everyone's money across months
for these subscription services. Yeah. Yeah,
I don't particularly think it's appropriate.
for an 11 year old oh well that's fine then I
won't I don't think so and I have a feeling Jem
will probably think the same but I know other
people that don't think that so it might be one
to put into your app but I personally think Jem
will have the same opinion I've already said
to Kay she's not allowed to watch it until I've
watched it and then I will make the judgement
based on me watching it because I quite fancied
watching it yeah did you watch Goosebumps? no
Okay, because it's kind of that level. So if
she's watched the Goosebumps, there's nothing
worse in this. What, the new Goosebumps with
Ross Geller? Yeah, with Ross Geller. Which looked
like, oh, it's Goosebumps. That's a kid's story.
This looks really good. And then watching the
trailer, it's like, this is not a kid's thing
anymore. Is Miranda still here? Do you think
Wednesday is worse or less than Goosebumps? Considering
someone in Goosebumps got completely immolated.
No one can hear you. Come over to the microphone.
Miranda. Come over to the microphone. We're talking
to an empty room. Come sit here. Come on. I have
to give some welcome music for her. What's your
wrestling entry music? If you're a wrestler joining
a wrestling match, they have entry music, don't
they? You ever watch wrestling before? What's
your entry music? Golden. So soda pop. I've got
to say, what would your intro music be? For like
boxing or wrestling, whatever you were going
to do. Yeah, see, I should have known this before
I started asking everybody else. Yeah, you should
have. Barbie Girl. Barbie Girl, nice. Well, I
love the Jackass films. I love the Jackass films.
The TV show. They have entertained me for years.
And Roger Alan Wade has done some music for that.
I'm sure it was music before this, but mine would
be purely to psych out the opponent. Right. So
let me play it for you. Oh, hang on. That wasn't
very loud, was it? It was not very loud. Let's
try that one again. Can I change my answer now?
Now imagine walking out to that one and your
contestants look at you going, what the fuck?
Can I change mine to I'm my own grandpa? Right,
you've got to speak like right over here. What
was we asking? What was the question? Oh yeah,
what's worse? Wednesday or Goosebumps? Wednesday.
Even though someone gets set on fire in Goosebumps.
You see in series one someone gets set on fire.
I don't remember that, but Goosebumps aired at
a children's time slot. No, I mean the new Goosebumps.
Oh, the new Goosebumps. Yeah, that's what I'm
saying. I don't think anyone's got set on fire
on the CITV or whatever it was version of it.
I was thinking of the children's version. Yeah,
because remember we watched it and we're like,
oh my God, we couldn't believe this. I think
they're both equally as dark. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
I think that's what I was saying. If you had
watched that Goosebumps and didn't think it was
appropriate, then I don't think you'll think
Wednesday's appropriate. Well, I watched the
trailer and thought, wow, okay, no, that's not
Goosebumps. I know we're not watching that. So,
okay, no, that's fine. That answers my question.
Yeah. Okay. So that was that one. What else have
we watched, Miranda? Oh, yeah, Count of Monte
Cristo. So I really wanted to watch this series
called The Count of Monte Cristo. Is it sci -fi?
No, it's not. And it's not me not knowing what
sci -fi is. And it's not fantasy either. Nope.
But it's what we've been watching, so I don't
care. When did this have to be about sci -fi,
TJ? Are you off? Goodbye. Say goodbye to everybody.
Bye. Oh, sorry. You weren't talking to me. No,
not you. You've got to stay. You haven't got
a choice to stay. I'm going to move my microphone.
So will you tell me if it's sci -fi? It's not
sci -fi. It's a guy. He goes to jail for 15 years
and comes out and wants to get his own back on
everybody. Nonce watch? They're not children.
There's no children in it. Well, there is children
in it, but no one gets nonced. Right, okay. Thank
you. Oh, love hearts. Thank you. And the cat's
going for the love hearts. There was something
nonce watchy. Oh, yeah, in War of the Worlds.
We're getting there. There was an answer for
it in War of the Worlds. Oh, boy. Oh, I'm not
allowed to talk about the Count of One to Christopher.
No, it's brilliant. Everyone should download
the You app and watch it. Well, it's not. Oh,
I'm not even going there. Okay, so two audiobooks.
The Geoff Wayne's War of the Worlds audiobook
that we spoke about on the last episode. I got
it, downloaded it, listened to it. Brilliant.
So has Karen's listened to it as well. It's great.
If you're listening to it, and I even said to
someone on... I think he was saying, oh, I really
wish there was a version of War of the Worlds
that was set in Victorian England rather than
all the modern ones. What? Have you tried listening
to this? For all of those that want that. But
don't have an Audible account. I'm telling you,
don't do this. Do not go to archive .org. Do
not type in War of the Worlds musical drama starring
Michael Sheen. Do not do that because you will
not find an MP3 file that you can download free
of charge and listen to at your own will without
any other players required. Don't do that. Because
you didn't do that. Because he did not do that.
Right, no, for legal purposes, I said don't do
that. Okay, right. Don't do that. Do that. Okay,
so... And then Karen sent me a recommendation
for another audiobook, and it's called Project
Hail Mary. And this is a very cool one. And that's
getting turned into a film. It is, apparently,
with Sexy Ken. Yes, Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling.
It looks really good. Is there a trailer out?
There's a trailer out. From what I understand,
he's like a teacher or one of the scientists.
He wakes up and they basically tell him, yeah,
you were the most qualified to go and do this
job. So you're on your own, on your way there
for many years. There's well more to it than
that. I'll have to watch the trailer and compare
because it'd be interesting. Because, you know,
it's like trailers and tell you the whole story.
It'd be interesting to see what route... Because
I'm already... Because she had said to me, Karen
had said it was going to be a film. I'm now like,
how are they going to put this, the way that
it's written, into a film? But the way the audiobook's
coming out is really good because it's the same
narrator as who does the Bobbyverse books. And
if anybody is familiar with Bobbyverse, they'll
know how absolutely fucking brilliant the Bobbyverse
books are. And I'm actually going to get you
the narrator's name because Ray Porter. I recognise
the name. So the book is by a guy called Andy
Weir. Yeah, and it's really good. I don't really...
I'm not going to say anything else other than
that because the trailer clearly isn't giving
you all the information. And I'm wondering if
that's going to be a big drop for the people
who watch the film. I would imagine so. Where
it's actually really the kind of main aspect
of the book. Either way. So I'm not going to
say anything. It looked really interesting. I'm
very quickly talking about trailers. The trailer
a little while ago, and I think it happened when
you were on holiday actually and we just didn't
talk about it. The new Running Man trailer dropped
and it looks really good. Yes, it does look really
good. I love Arnie. That will always be a great
version of the film. This looks good, though.
I think we should go to the cinema to watch that.
We went to the cinema. Oh, we went to the cinema.
But it's not sci -fi, so we can't talk about
it. Yes, we can. Don't go anywhere near that
button. Crab hands. Crab hands. We watched Naked
Gun. Absolutely bloody brilliant. She had a butt
that made the title long for the brand. Yeah,
long for the brand. Well, there was a comment
in it. really near the start and pseudo was basically
hysterics for the next 10 minutes just never
got past that the cough everything about it you
know what they did it so much credit and we all
loved it there's a bit where someone says about
crab hands and all three of us were laughing
at it stuff like that and it was those things
where Everyone loved that bit. And it's almost
like Seth MacFarlane knew everyone like that
because it then gets a call out after the credits.
And even the credits had random bits inside the
credits. So it made it worth just sitting there
and trying to read everyone because there were
little things in there. Yeah, great stuff. Really,
if you liked the original Naked Gun films, you
will definitely enjoy this one. Okay, it's not
quite in the same ilk as the original three.
He's a bit more, weirdly a bit better at being
a cop than the original, but it's still just
as bad. And it's wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.
And I love how he doesn't kill people. If you
notice, whenever he's got the... he goes in as
the little girl everyone he basically beats them
all up or they kill themselves so when he throws
the mannequin into the middle and they just all
shoot he didn't kill him they killed him yeah
that is funny when the guy turns into a mannequin
yeah it was just uh yeah i don't really want
to say anything else because we want to spoil
the jokes but it is brilliant definitely watch
if you can we're now just waiting for police
academy to come back out Oh, God, yeah. I don't
know if I'd like a remake of Police Academy.
I love Police Academy, though. Accessing library
computer data. We've been talking for ages again.
We have been talking for ages again. We need
to talk about something that happened in 2005.
Little Tommy Cruise, as you like to call him.
Doing a lot of running. Doing a lot of running.
War of the Worlds. He does. He runs in all his
films. He does a lot of running in this one.
And I don't know if he hurt himself in this one.
I don't know. And there's not like a big massive
stunt for him to do either in this one. Doesn't
he look young? Oh, he does. He looks so young.
And isn't he a wanker? Oh, he's a prick. What
a horrible guy he plays. And he plays really
well. No wonder his son runs away. Yeah, his
son's a prick as well. Who remarkably looks like
him. They've got such a good lookalike. The son
has really good features that match Tom Cruise.
You kind of feel like... Actually, yeah, that
could be his son. Well, you commented slightly
last episode about child actors and particularly
about this girl. And they're always made to scream
and cry and they're pretty much objectionable.
And unfortunately, that's exactly what this character
is. Now, I want to say that it's tough. We shouldn't
badmouth child actors because they are what they
are. It's how they're directed. It's how they're
directed. They're either fucking awful. or they're
acceptable. I think it's very rare. Someone can
correct me, but I think it's rare if you have
one that you go, Jesus, they've done a really
good blood job. That's the cat attacking a love
heart packet. I shouldn't have given it the love
heart, sorry. And I think she is actually okay
in this. Yeah, I mean, she's been directed to
scream a lot, but she is doing what she's meant
to, and a child of her age would be doing in
this situation. So I can't comment too much on
it. You're talking about the rare instance. I
would say Ghostbusters Half -Life, that's the
one that had the weird CGI -y gone at the end,
if I remember right. Yeah. As much as I enjoyed
it, actually, I didn't mind it. The children
they chose for that were brilliant. And they
were really well directed and they were really
good actors. So it's the first time in a long
time I came out and went, I really didn't want
this to be Ghostbusters Jr. It pretty much became
Ghostbusters Jr. But you know what? They were
fine and they were good. Maybe it's just a case
of these more modern films, directors and all
the people on the sets are just better at managing
kids, that they understand what they need to
do with... getting a kind of performance out
of a child. Well, I think a lot of it is down
to the fact that people realise that actually
if people go to see a film, they get annoyed
by a kid that's just screaming all the time.
We better move away from that. Just like we said
the other episode about Temple of Doom and screaming
woman throughout all of it. She's a pain in the
arse. I can't stand her. I love that film, but
oh. Get rid of that. And that's not her fault.
That's what she's been told to fucking do. And
I think a lot of people basically got the same.
And if you want to do a film with kids, you've
got to actually give them a chance to be decent.
And to be fair, they do a good job in this. I
mean, Steven Spielberg as a whole for this film
does a brilliant job. Now, I saw this at the
cinema. I was a very fond lover of the original,
of the Jeff Wayne stuff, of the 60s film that
we talked about in the last episode. I was pretty
standoffish about it. I remember being younger
back then. What, 20 years ago? Christ. And to
think, I didn't think it was all that. I didn't
really enjoy it that much. I don't think I gave
it the credit it was due because having re -watched
it, actually... really enjoyed it it has some
great design to it um obviously big plot holes
big plot holes which we'll discuss no doubt now
soon um but ultimately it's it's a it's a good
film there are i i liked it when it first came
out i've liked it it's it's one of those films
it's like world war z it's got a special place
in my heart i can yeah i can keep watching this
film over and over i won't get bored of it I
really like it. It is one of the films that I
won't change the channel over when it's on. Yeah,
fair enough. And I think that it's, there are
moments you just like, you think, come on, that
wouldn't, even an alien invasion, that wouldn't
be happening. Like the stuff with the sun, I
just. You wouldn't. I just don't think he'd be
doing that. I don't think he'd be running off
to join the army. I just don't think that anybody
would be doing that. Let's just start at the
very beginning of the problems. As I say, I enjoy
the film. It looks good. The design was good.
I think the tripods look brilliant. The noise
they make is great. The noise. The harrowing.
Exactly. It's just unsettling. It's good like
that. We'll talk about the aliens in a little
bit because there's still a little bit of me
back at being 21 or however old I was, old back
then, saying the same thing. And I've looked
at it now and it's like, that is exactly the
same point. I've not changed my mind on that.
But let's go back to the very beginning. I think
the biggest plot hole is, why did they build
them on Earth in the fucking first place? Why
did they bury them? You're telling me with all
the years of development with subways, tubes,
tunnels, infrastructure, we've never managed
to find one of these fucking things. Yeah, that's
the biggest plot hole. But why are they there?
There is zero point. And if you've had enough
technology to build something like that and transport
yourself across the bloody galaxy using lightning
bolts, you'd think you're... think they might
have put some biofuses on their ship so you don't
end up dying of a common fucking cold yeah like
because they would have had to have been there
a long long time ago yeah so this is a pre -planned
attack on the planet like and how deep were those
those things would have had to have been extremely
deep yeah i think it would make more sense if
they just the lightning just came down and that
was it that was the ships coming down that would
make more sense yeah because you could have just
made it down to well that was just a highly focused
energy beam let's trek the trek there is a highly
focused energy beam and as soon as it hit our
atmosphere it statically charged the ions around
it causing lightning but that's what basically
they didn't do it on the earth for whatever reason
they didn't do it to the surface they just did
it underground yeah yeah but yeah fine That would
have been better. Instead, we get this weird
pod thing that's captured on an old -school 2005
news camera who's managed to capture enough frames
to catch lightning. He would never catch it at
that quality. Exactly. He'd be just like, oh,
click, click. No, there's nothing there. It'd
be a smudge. Exactly. So it's perfectly clear.
So that was kind of one of the problems. It's
never good when the main character... is immediately
made to be an utter cunt who's unlikable. Yeah,
and he was tough to like. I don't even really
think he gets a redemption arc because, okay,
yeah, later on he saves his daughter. But that's
just more of a kind of. I kind of have to because
I'm planning on taking these guys. Guess what?
He's taking them back to their mum because he
doesn't want to deal with them. Yeah. That's
the whole point of this story. Let's not forget
that. I'm going to look after you. I'm going
to keep you safe. Now, let's take you back to
your mum. Let's get you back to your mum. Exactly.
They kind of. And it does get mentioned by the
son kind of does say that, you know, why are
we here? You know, why are we here? You're here
because mum's here. Yeah, exactly. I think that
he had a great car. It's one thing. He had a
brilliant car. It's a kid's doll. I liked the
little bit where the mum and the boyfriend are
dropping the kids off. And Tom Cruise is like,
oh, it's a really nice car. Obviously taking
the piss, but it's a nice new car. And the son
immediately opens the door, smashes it into the
telephone pole. And then the daughter gets out
and smashes the door into the telephone pole.
I was like, I don't know if that was on purpose
because they do have a little shot of the boyfriend
going to look like. like he's annoyed i wonder
if it was it was an accident of the shoe but
the yeah the thing with them underground i mean
it's clearly there to build a fear like to give
some tension that could that be real could there
really be these things underground totally get
it and that but that's just the source material
is that and They're trying to keep to that element
of the source material. But they aren't, are
they? The source material is they come in meteorites.
They think it's a meteorite shower. No, the Jeff
Wayne's one, the machines are underground, I
thought. I think the original book is they...
Oh, I have to re -listen to the original book.
Yeah, I need to now then. But it's been bastardised
so much, I couldn't even tell you what the original
is anymore. Let's put it that way. Yeah. How
about in the audiobook? What did they say in
the audiobook? Oh, but that's based on the Jeff
Wayne mixed with the original story by HG Wells.
Yeah, they kind of... Yeah, now are they underground
or do they build them? I think they build them.
But even that would make sense. So the lightning
strikes, you could have had that happen and then
you could have started the film with... Two weeks
ago, we had weird lightning strikes across the
world. Still no explanation from NASA or scientists.
Oh, no, no. No, they get the streaks. No, they
get like this weird blue or green streak or something
come down and it's a big metal pod and it unscrews
like in the 53 film does. They unscrews and they
come out and then that pod must be what turns
into the tripods. Yes. I think that's how it
is in Jeff Wayne's book. I think that's how it
goes. Yeah, so there you go. Look, I've just
asked ChatGPT because there is use for AI in
this sort of stuff. H .G. Wells novel. Arrival
method, cylindrical Martian cylinders fired from
Mars like artillery shells. Of course it bloody
is. That's it, yes. They crash into Earth, burying
themselves deep. Each cylinder opens after cooling
and the Martians build the tripods on Earth from
machinery they've brought along. absolute makes
total sense and you could have like i said done
that in this lightning strikes two weeks ago
no one knows what's going on there's been weird
subterranean sound tremors that's been found
but no one's able to get deep enough because
it's too hot and then boom the tripods are out
erupt the 1953 film arrivals meteors that's where
i got the meteorites from 2005, they were already
buried underground on Earth for thousands, maybe
millions of years. Just doesn't make sense. BBC
TV adaptation from 2019, largely faithful to
Wells' novel. Which is good. That's a good one.
Musical, Cylinders from Mars, Crash Thin Tripods,
Bill. Asylums, War of the Worlds, cheap DVD tie
-in. ChatGPT's not putting its punches there.
They arrive in meteorites. Don't tell us the
Amazon one. That's got to be a surprise. It's
not on there. Even ChatGPT's not watched it.
It's got one on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm not even
getting the data for that. Yeah, I'm not trolling
that. You want me to watch that? I'm not even
going to watch it on hyperspeed like I watch
anything. But the other thing that is never really
explained. If they've been buried here for so
long, why are they coming up now? And what is
their plan? Because if they were built there
thousands or millions of years ago, there was
no mankind, nothing there. So if they were there
just to get resources, why didn't they come earlier?
Why have they waited till man? Maybe they're
waiting for atmospheric conditions. I don't know.
But now they've come out. What's their plan?
Are they just going to turn Earth into another
Mars? I think they're terraforming. I think that's
what the red weed is. They're terraforming. Because
they're feeding the red weed by spreading human
mush. Well, that's it. But I presumed that was.
So the stupid, and I will call it stupid, the
stupid human containers on the ships with the
long, licky tongue tongue. Yeah, the cock coming
out of the vagina. That's disgusting. What the
fuck? Awful, awful addition to the film. I just
presume that that was feeding the ship and that's
how they're powering the tripods. They're eating
humans and that's generating and what's being
fired out is basically fertilizer. What was that?
The dog, I think. Yeah, I was never really sure
because there's a shot where they open up one
of the pods when the alien comes out dead and
all the goo comes out of the bit he's in. Are
they emerged in it? Okay, so in the Jeff Wayne's
one, the aliens are eating the people. Yes. And
I think that's the idea of the HG Wells one.
Yeah. And this one, it implies they're being
blended up and spread to feed the red wheat.
Right. So again, trying to turn it into a new
red planet. But why? I think it might say their
planet's dying. But they're meant to have come
from Mars. Yeah, Mars is dying. Yeah, but...
Again, it doesn't make sense because even at
that point, we'd put rovers on Mars so the world
knows that there's no red weed there and stuff.
And I know we're talking about real life versus
film, but there is nothing that's mentioned about
that. Again, you could have even had in that
news article two weeks ago, lightning strikes,
don't know what's going on. In other news, weird
signals from Mars, Mars quakes, stuff like that.
Is Mars about to implode? Anything like that
would have been good. And then you could have
said, yes, well, actually, they built these things
underground as an emergency thing if they needed
to terraform another planet. And they did it
on all the planets in the solar system. And it
just so happens that they've seen Earth and the
way that it's been terraformed now and how it
is. They're like, actually, that's a perfect
place to go. Yeah. So this is their Krypton.
Yeah. Krypton to Earth for the War of the Worlds
aliens. Yeah. I know these are pretty big plot
holes we're talking about. It doesn't detract
from the fact it's an enjoyable film. And it
feels massive. Like the ferry scene is horrible.
Yeah. But I would say the visuals of this film,
99 % of them I think are actually very good.
It's dated. It's dated. But they get away with
a lot of it because a lot of it's in the dark.
Yes. And that's how they got away with it in
things like Jurassic Park. You put the things
in the dark, it's easier for all the composition.
Yes. And it just hides it all better, but then
it also makes it a little bit unseen. Yeah. It
all makes it a little bit unseen, but there's
some great shots. Like when the first one is
coming to the ground and it's, the ground is
aspiring, like the ground is unscrewing. So the
front of the church comes off and starts moving
around. That's really good. There's a, the plane
crash scene. The plane crash scene. Yeah. The,
the, the cinematography is like her at the, at
the, the river with the dead bodies going past.
Yeah. The bit where she, just before she gets
grabbed and she stood there and her silhouette
at the top of the hill. with the tripod coming
together and then comes down and looks towards
the camera. You know, there's some really good...
Where's another one I've got down? Yeah, where
he steps out of the basement to look over the
whole land covered in the red weed with a tripod
going around spraying. There's some really good
shots. There is. And yeah, like you say, it makes
it feel massive. It makes it feel like they're
doing this to the world. They're not just going
after Tom Cruise. They're doing it to everybody.
They actually bring that up as well. They say,
oh, I hear it's happened in Asia, US, south of
the border in South America. I hear Europe's
had nothing at all. They're safe. And then someone
else says, no, Europe's been destroyed. It's
completely gone. Yeah, yeah. Then no one knows.
So the fact that you've got that no one knows
because the whole communications have been dropped.
Brilliant. It just adds to the dread. And yeah.
let's get to the scene that we nonce watched
earlier yeah it's a weird scene and it goes on
for so long it's like almost is it almost quarter
of the film almost isn't it it's a low point
for me that because I've always thought it was
too noncey I didn't like it it just goes on for
too long as well it just feels like we're stuck
I know it's meant to give you this sense of dread
and then it gets even worse by what your brain
starts thinking is he just talking about killing
everyone and just ending their life or is he
talking about you know what and oh my god that's
just gross and what the hell i just want them
to take out the scene where he sat on the steps
with the girl saying that he'll look after if
something happens to daddy it's that scene that
completely changes your perspective of him yes
because before you just think he's just a gross
old dude who's has a weird glance at the kid
but it could just be a weird glance at the kid
and that's it And you could see it as that. But
because of that scene of him on the step, for
me, I've always thought it, I thought he was
a pedo. Yeah, 100%. Just completely, that's what
I thought. And you can't tell me that that's
not what they planned. And I think that is exactly
what they planned. And then they don't touch
on it ever again, which I'm glad about. They
never actually mention about it ever again, and
I'm glad. And that is literally the only bit
of the entire film I don't like. I know we've
kind of said all these other bits and the plot
and stuff, but I don't care about any of that
because I think the actual... whole thing if
you just take it for what it is i think it's
a really fun action film there are some you know
suspenseful moments with the with the spaceship
cock going around inside that basement trying
to find them you know there's some really good
bits interesting the aliens are not at all like
how they're described in anything else they're
meant to just be heads basically Basically, yeah,
but I like the fact that they're kind of tripods
themselves. But the three legs, it made sense
because of their anatomy that they have vehicles
based on their anatomy. But then you could also
argue it's a little bit hard to believe that
they've managed to build all of this amazing
technology looking at what they have. It's the
argument we said about in the last episode or
the episode before that where we say... You've
got these creatures and they're designed in such
a way that they probably couldn't even hold a
screwdriver properly. So how have they built
interstellar? It's hard to believe. So yeah,
it's a difficult one, isn't it? I like the design
of them. Is it practical for what they are? Not
necessarily. So we kind of got that. Now, I'm
just digging up a couple of photos here, so you're
going to have to give me a moment. The thing
that I was saying about earlier, about back in
2005 when I first saw this and just immediately
said, right, well, that's exactly where Steven
Spielberg has got this design from. Any ideas
what I might be talking about? Well, it looks
a lot like... The head of them kind of looks
a lot like the Will Smith film, Independence
Day. Oh, what, you mean that alien there? Yeah,
they look very similar. So, yeah, if you think
Independence Day, and we're not talking about
the armour suit that they're wearing, we're talking
about the little alien that's controlling the
armour suit, there is way too many similarities
between... What year was Independence Day? I'm
going to say 97 or 98. Let me just double check
that. That's why we have IMDB installed. It should
very well be the same company that did the...
96, crikey. It could be the same company that
did the animation and stuff, the models. Possibly,
absolutely. You never know. Same designer. I
just felt it was a bit close to the design. It
didn't feel very original, except for the tripod
side of it where they're walking on the three
legs. The alien itself felt very, very similar
to the one from Independence Day. You know, it'd
be funny if War of the Worlds was like the prequel
to Independence Day. So, like, they do this invasion
first, and then we kind of just recover from
it, and then they're like... Oh, we didn't make
it. Or like they were supposed to be the landing
party before the spaceships arrive. And now the
spaceship arrives because they've lost communication.
I'm going to blow your mind. What stopped the
aliens in Independence Day? A virus. It was a
virus. Yeah. Links upon links upon links. Yeah,
it could be. Yeah, or you do Independence Day
first and they dropped the pods underground and
then the other guys are coming after us to get
their own back. It's funny, isn't it? I mean,
it's a good film. Very enjoyable. Very full of
dread. Not great for character development, gotta
say. The characters are pretty unlikable. But
it works for the film, so you can kind of let
it off a little bit for that. But otherwise...
It's a lot better than I thought it would be.
And I've got a feeling it's probably going to
be a lot better than you're about to say what
we're watching next. And you'll find out in a
moment. Woo! Transfer complete. So, I'm sorry
to tell you all this because of developments
on the release schedule of Amazon, which I didn't
know about. Thanks, Amazon. Apparently this film
that... was meant to come out during COVID. Like
it was very filmed in COVID and then they just
held it back for ages and ages. I didn't know
that because I watched a short with Linus from
Linus Tech Tips. He was meant to be in it. He
filmed his part and then they cut him out, but
he's still in the credits. And he was saying,
you know, this was like filmed during COVID,
which might be why it's filmed in the way that
it is. So it's Amazon's own version. of War of
the Worlds 2025. It's supposedly fucking dreadful.
It's supposedly meant to be based on War of the
Worlds, but it's more an... Oh, what do they
call it? It's called War of the Worlds. No, no,
it's meant to be War of the Worlds, but it's
being done through social media. Oh, it sounds
like the worst hour and a half of my life. God,
how long is it? Too long, probably. Oh, no. Let's
face it, Cloverfield enjoys a film, yeah? Yeah,
Cloverfield's a good film. But it's shaky cam,
and I don't like shaky cam. This feels like it's
going to be shaky cam plus with webcam and social
media crap instead. It sounds awful. It's 91
minutes, thank God for that, and one hour, 31
minutes. Jesus. And it features Ice Cube. Apparently
it's a screen life thriller. Yeah. So you're
meant to be getting the story through social
media and kind of reporting, and it's meant to
be happening live to Ice Cube, and he's kind
of meant to be reporting it back to people as
to what's going on. Yeah, I'm going to hate it.
I'm going to go into it with an open mind, but...
The social media part of it sounds like... I
mean, there was a horror movie that I did actually
quite like, which was a guy basically in front
of his computer the whole time trying to find
his daughter. Like he had access to her social
media accounts and stuff. Was that webcam or
something? I can't remember. That was actually
quite good. It had the... I think it had the
guy who's in Harold and Kumar. Oh, okay. That
was all right. But this one looks fucking dreadful.
It does look bad. It really looks dreadful. Social
commentary, there you go. It's meant to be a
social commentary film. The only reason we're
doing it is because we're doing World of Warcraft
stuff and it just happened to be so... It's just
such a coincidence that that's come out while
we're doing this. So it was meant to be a double
bill. It's now a trilogy. And we may even make
it a saga because the 2005... Do you know who
the Asylum are? No. The Asylum are people that
make those DVD films. So Disney released The
Little Mermaid. They released... The Little Fish
Girl. Okay. And they released, in 2005, their
version of The War of the Worlds. I want to come
away from The War of the Worlds after the next
one. Maybe we could watch that on top of this.
I'll tell you what I would like to watch at some
point is the modern version of The Blob. Well,
when we get past this one, we'll workshop what
we're doing. We need to have one that we're going
to enjoy. As I was just going to say, because
the 80s or 90s, whatever it was, version of The
Blob, I've seen reviews and basically people
have said, This is the equivalent of The Thing,
but set in... Okay, that sounds great. Whereas
within, I'm talking about kind of the effects
and the deaths. Speaking of The Thing, I think
there's a game coming out by John Carpenter.
There is. I haven't watched Treader, though.
Maybe we can watch that after this, because I've...
Sounds good. So does that. No one else heard
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