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I've been watching you, Jack. So I'll never leave

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here. You'll leave at 5. Well, actually, they

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stagger our exit, so 5 .15. Hello and welcome

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to the Untitled Sci -Fi Show. I nearly said Trek

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then, nearly fucked it up within four seconds.

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It's not been the Untitled Trek Show for quite

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a while now. No, why did I think about it? Oh,

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it's in my head because of the website. The URLs

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being all over the place, plus the RSS feed being

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the wrong name, which we're never going to change.

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Yeah, we can't change it. Get over it. I don't

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think anyone ever notices. I don't even ever

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notice, really. No, I don't think so, because

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most people access it through the podcast app,

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so they don't see what the RSS feed is anyway.

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Yeah, I mean, who even grabs it? It's like the

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Google spiders going around and looking for that.

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I don't know. Anyway, nice week. Not bad, thank

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you, dude. Not bad. Been a bit chaotic with family

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things, but been able to do a few things, so

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it's not too bad. Good. Right. We've got, I guess,

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the intro to talk about. Ooh. Enter authorization

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code. Right. We had no entries. I had messages

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from people saying, oh, I don't know one of them,

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or I don't know... the second one or do you know

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what I mean? But no one actually ever sent me

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anything that they actually did know. So that's

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not particularly great, is it? No. And have you

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listened to it? I've listened to it. I really

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struggled with it. And I thought, you know what?

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I'm just going to do it live with you. Yeah,

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because you'll get it now without the other stuff.

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I did have a slight complaint from somebody that

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the mix wasn't great at the end. Because I said

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that they should definitely know what the last

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one is. And of course, this isn't a guess the

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intro, is it? It's a guess the connection. No,

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it is. You've got to guess every single one and

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also a connection. Yeah, okay. But yeah, it's

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the special one. So, let's unmute that. Remember

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this time. Ready. Steady. Go. Cook. Ready, steady,

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cook. Come on. Biggest baddest slayer in the

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game doesn't seem like much, does he? Right,

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that's a very quick one. Biggest baddest slayer

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in the game doesn't seem like much, does he?

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Are these games, by the way, or film? Films.

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Films. I think it's about Slayer. I haven't got...

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I mean, Slayer means things of Buffy the Vampire

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Slayer, but obviously it's not that because it's

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films. Mm -hmm. So if we're talking about Slayer,

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we're talking about vampires, is this one of

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the Blade films? No. Oh. Any clues? Have I written

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it down? Yes, I have. I have. So, Gerald Butler

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is in this film, and so is the guy who's in Dexter.

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Miranda's here, everybody. Say hello, Miranda.

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Hello. Name a film, Miranda, that's got Gerald

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Butler in it, and also the guy from Dexter. I

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just sent you the file for, I guess, the intro,

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so if you play it, the very first clip is the

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clip we're talking about. Have I seen it? Well,

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you might not have seen it. We've got it on DVD.

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DVD. DVD. DVD. I like to watch... I'm actually

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just cheating now. I've gone to IMDB. It's got

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to be a 90s or 2000s film, I presume. It's got

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to be in 2000s. I think it's 90. 2000s. There's

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a great dance scene. Got a dance scene? Yep.

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That's not the Phantom of the Opera. Let me give

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you some more clues. Yeah. Oh, Dracula 2000.

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No. So Gerard Butler's character... Is being

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controlled by a kid. Oh, that's just a little

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bit odd. Using like a VR kind of thing. Oh, um...

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I thought I knew. No, I'm just singing Spider

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-Pig. No, I know you're doing Spider -Man, Spider

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-Man. Goes around in his mum's minivan. Oh, he's

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singing Spider -Pig. Can't you tell the subtle

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differences between Spider -Man and Spider -Pig?

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I don't. Am I going to need to tell you both,

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Miranda? No idea? You're going to have to tell

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me. The film is called Gamer. Gamer. Gamer. Are

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you sure that's Gerard Butler? I'm pretty sure

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that's Gerard Butler. It is Gerard Butler, isn't

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it, Brian? Oh, yeah, 2009. There you go. Yeah.

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I remember hearing about it. I didn't know it

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was Gerard Butler. It's Gerard Butler. So, yeah,

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the kids, he's a prison convict, and they basically

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get told you're going to be part of an FPS game.

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Yes, exactly. Exactly. Next. Never lick. You

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bite straight to the chocolatey centre of the

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Tootsie Pop. See, I recognise the voice, but

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again, I've got no idea. You never lick, you

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always bite straight to the centre of the Tootsie

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Pop. Miranda, any ideas? It's a film you absolutely

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love. You've seen it a million times. It's based

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on a book. They've recently released a second

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book, directed by Steven Spielberg. Oh, okay.

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It's a Spielberg, is it? The Almanac is a word

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that's used in it. Oh, it's one of the... Back

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to the Future 2? Nope. Oh. There is references

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to Back to the Future in it. There's lots of

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references to lots of stuff. There's references

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to Gundam. Ready Player One. Oh, that's why I

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recognise the voice. Yeah, that's the bad guy

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talking to the other bad guy. Is virtual reality

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the connection? No. We'll get there. You set

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up a romantic rendezvous between me. Serena Williams

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and Martha Stewart. Set up a romantic rendezvous

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with me, Serena Williams and Martha Stewart.

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And it's Peter Dinklage who is saying that. Now

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this film, it looks like you're going to need

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to hit hints again. Always. Critically panned.

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Massively panned. Lots of people hated this.

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It's one of those comedy films by Happy Gilmore

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Guy. Oh, Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler film. Is

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this the video game one? It is a video game one,

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yes. Come on. It's got Pac -Man as the big title.

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Go on, Miranda. You brought me this on Blu -ray.

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Pixels. Pixels, that's it. You brought it for

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me on Blu -ray. Did I watch it on my own? I don't

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think it deserved the haste it got. I quite enjoyed

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it. It was silly and it was fun. They're doing

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a sequel. Oh, really? It warranted a sequel.

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Pixels 2? Happy Gilmore 2 came out. I haven't

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seen Happy Gilmore 1. Neither have I, and it's

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meant to be amazing. But no, basically, I think

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Adam Sandler's suddenly been told, you haven't

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done anything for ages, here's money. Yeah. Next

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one. It was his first mission! And it's not going

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to be my last! And again, I recognise it, but

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I can't tell you anything about it. You have

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spoken about this, that was The Rock, on this

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show. A few times. The Rock. Okay. That is Dwayne

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The Rock Johnson. So it's not Fast and the Furious.

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We know that much. It's not Fast and the Furious.

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No, it's not Jumanji. It's one of his first kind

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of forays into the movie scene. Oh, okay. You

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know what? I actually quite like the Jumanji

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films with him. The two modern ones. As much

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as I love the original, the two The Rock Jumanjis

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I really quite like. And not just because of

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Karen Gillan. Okay, so there is a scene in this

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film, okay, The camera gets put on the gun. Oh,

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Doom. It's Doom, yes. Doom, yeah. Along with

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Carl Urban, and it's an atrocity of a film. It's

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fucking dreadful, and I've got it on DVD. In

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comparison to the games. Oh, sweet Jesus. What

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did you do? Next. He killed my friends. No, I

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did. He killed my friends. No, I did. That could

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be any number. I'll give you, well. Miranda would

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know if she heard it. She's not listening to

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this. So it's a TV series. They've now had two

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seasons of it. Pedro Pascal is in this TV series.

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Oh, is it The Mandalorian? No. Oh, The Last of

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Us. Mushroom people. Abby. You know, The Last

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of Us is the start of the Mushroom Kingdom. That

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is, it's going to link into Mario eventually.

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Everyone that's slowly becoming mushrooms will

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eventually become Toad. This is Elle talking

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to Abby where she gets captured in season two.

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No, she doesn't. She's lovely. Next one. Ass

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jerky don't make itself. Okay. Now, that's a

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hard one to hear with the other stuff over it.

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He says, Volty ass jerky doesn't make itself.

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This is a TV series. They've just announced a

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second series. The trailer just came out of Gamescom,

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the second series trailer. I spoke about this

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to Miranda yesterday, so she's got to try and

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remember it. So who would say the word, what

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would have the word vaulty in it as a slur for

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someone who comes from a vault? Oh, it's... Fallout.

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Fallout. That's it. So I'm thinking VOLTY is

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V -O -L -T -Y. It's in electricity. Yeah, so

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this is the ghoul guy talking to... Oh, Mr. No

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-Nos. Yeah, who's talking to the girl who comes

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out of the vault and he's saying... It's what

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he's calling a VOLTY. Ah. Okay, so all of those

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work. Okay, you two have got to guess the connection

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now. Miranda, are you listening? Ready Player

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One, Pixels, Gamer, Fallout, Doom, The Last of

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Us. What is the connection? Games. Yeah. There

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you go. Well done. Easy one. Told you it was

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an easy one. I think a lot of people are going

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to send you hatred now. Well, no one guessed

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any of them or sent anything in, so they can

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all suck my feet. Go on then. What have you been

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doing? I have actually done quite a bit. Let's

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talk strange new worlds. oh yes i was saying

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i've seen the first three episodes finally i

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was saying to the wife that you said that you

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want to talk about the second episode so do i

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but it's been such a long time since i watched

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it you're gonna have to tell me what happened

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to it so i can second episode sexy nurse chapel

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gets married or is gonna be a very sexy green

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outfit yes and it's got the hughes son yeah basically

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it's q we know it's q no it's not q it's his

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son Yeah, but Q turns up. Oh, Q turns up. It's

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the same actor. Yeah, exactly. It is the Q continuum

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in an early phase of the series. Absolutely brilliant.

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Not sure, and this is going to come on to another

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show that I've watched this week as well. What

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the fuck? In the Star Trek era, they have just

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made Wake Me Up Before You Go go canon to Star

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Trek. Is it in it? Is it? It's the very end dance

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they are all doing. Once it's all over. and they

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just start dancing, it is George Michael singing.

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Oh, I don't remember. As I said, for me, in reality,

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everybody, it's probably been about a month since

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I watched this. It literally goes full on to

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Wake Me Up Before You Go Go, and then I can't

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think of the character's name, which is really

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bad. I Fly the Ship goes off and beats up a bag,

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and we kind of see that she's having mental images

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of the gore. She's having PTSD. She's got PTSD,

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essentially. Well, I don't know, is it? I think

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it is. Is it PTSD or have the Gorn got some way

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of putting some sort of subconscious mental image

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of themselves into them that's going to cause

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her to go a bit loopy because obviously in the

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next episode she starts breaking all the rules

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and putting them in danger. Yeah, she's being

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a... That's what I had in the other episode.

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I mean, it probably is PTSD, but I'm going along

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the lines still that it could well be that they've

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implanted something in her brain, in her memory,

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in her mind that's kind of trying to... It's

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kind of a bit Borg -esque, though, don't you

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think, with that? A little bit. That's a little

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bit like they've done that with the Borg, you

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know. Well, they didn't Picard, didn't they?

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Yes, this subliminal message going on. But, yeah,

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no, so the second episode, we've got Q -Sun...

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beautiful beautiful set designs and outfits and

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everything like that and the whole change of

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the whole universe just so mr spock can get back

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with nurse chapel yeah absolutely brilliant and

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it's such there's so many parts of it so when

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the spocks literally just stood at the table

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while they're explaining how they met on this

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date and fell in love and he's like well yes

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because that's your mother it's like yeah we're

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kind of getting to that point there spock don't

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try and one -up him So it's kind of really, really

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awkward. But no, it's just a really solid episode.

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And I love the throwbacks to various things.

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And the whole cue idea was brilliant. I love

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the fact that they don't say it's the cue, hence

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the reason they've managed to keep it canon.

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So the first cue you come across is TNG. There's

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no records of it. And that's why. And it's nice

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that they can go back and actually say, no, we

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can have it. We just won't have them say who

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they are. Yeah. But, you know, other people know

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because, you know, so that is. So Q's son is

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in TNG as well or is he in Voyager? It's Voyager.

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Yeah. So that's two times they've done Voyager

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links now. Yeah. Because it's the same Orchid

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and now it's the same Q. Yeah. Also, there were

00:14:17.740 --> 00:14:20.460
a load of TikToks going, did you hear the holodeck

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sound? Is this just all a holodeck simulation

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going on? They wouldn't do that. They wouldn't

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do that. No. So don't go there. Yeah. How many

00:14:33.750 --> 00:14:35.830
episodes have you seen? I'm up to the third one.

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So I've just finished the third one. I look forward

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to watching the fourth one. And it's just like,

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hang on a moment. So we've just gone from all

00:14:42.049 --> 00:14:45.559
lovey -dovey weird Q stuff. And now we're in

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Star Trek Resident Evil. What the fuck is going

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on? I was like, oh, hang on. Normal Klingons.

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Nearly. Yeah, nearly normal Klingons. Yeah, I

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think because we've watched four of them. They're

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all great. And there was some originally boring

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Mugwatch. Eventually got pretty good Mugwatch.

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Two mugs, a mug and a teacup. There's loads of

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mugs in episode two. Loads of them. Well, I'm

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calling them mugs, but I just mean drinking vessels.

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There's like a tiny little fishbowl shot glass.

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Yes. That was a really nice one. Oh, what a brilliant

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moment. It's like meeting the bartender. It's

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like, are you thinking what I'm thinking? Yeah,

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I think I am. Are you inviting me to work on

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the Starship? Yeah. That's just brilliant, isn't

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it? We've got stellar cartography. We've got

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science. We've got doctor. We've got a three

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-armed bartender now. Yeah. So I've spoken about

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Saurian brandy on the show before in the shit

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show, but you saw a bottle of it. They actually

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had it. It was like a weird kind of necked bottle

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thing, if I'm trying to remember, because I didn't

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write down exactly what it looked like. But I've

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written down here. It looks brilliant. They drink

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Guinness at the end. In like some weird embossed

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glass. I was like, oh, that's really nice. Well,

00:16:03.620 --> 00:16:06.580
there was one bit that they obviously have been

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hearing everyone talk about it. captain's girlfriend

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says about him going to her ship is like but

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where will all your hair product go yeah i love

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that line that was so good because they obviously

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they did the panning image to start with with

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their two hair brushes next to each other yeah

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there's just all this hair stuff but they know

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that they must obviously know but did i say about

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when we watched the first episode and it does

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the recap and then so if you watch the recap

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and then it immediately goes to the same scene

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but in in the show and like that's filmed differently

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because his hair is suddenly really nice. I think

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I might have said he watched it. But yeah, Stranger

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Things is brilliant. We just haven't got round

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to watching the next ones yet. No, I just haven't

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had a chance to. Now, the third episode, as I

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said, it goes zombie. So obviously the Gorn has

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gone wrong in his girlfriend and they need the

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flower of a plant and no one's told him that,

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by the way, there's a really high risk it might

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just turn her into a weird Gorn hybrid for the

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rest of her life. Whoopsie. Yeah. The Klingons

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turn up, hunting for the Doctor, who's a mass

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murderer of Klingon people, which we kind of

00:17:10.630 --> 00:17:13.289
already knew, but he makes it really badass.

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Yeah. I like the Doctor. The Doctor's brilliant.

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He's really good. He's one of my favourite characters,

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which means he's going to die. Because he's got

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a good storyline. He's got a good back history,

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and they've kind of drip -fed it enough to make

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it interesting and not over the top. Because

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what they're doing is... They are really leaning

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into the fact that the war with the Klingons

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is not that long ago. So all of these people

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on these starships just trying to explore are

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all veterans of war. And some of them did some

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bad things or had some bad things happen to them.

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Which ends with him saying, well, are you going

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to report me? He's like, well, there was no incident

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on that planet. So what am I going to report?

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What am I going to report, huh? exactly yeah

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fine okay i did terrible things i'll keep it

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hush yeah and i like the idea that the um the

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doctor is actually basically just like an sas

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hitman well don't forget in the first uh the

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second series when he's with chapel they take

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the drug on board the fake starship yeah it's

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like we did it before we killed lots of people

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we're gonna have to do it again it's like okay

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um So this is actually the episode that made

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me think more about the fact that is it a Gorn

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implanted memory thing? Because obviously she's

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got a Gorn inside her and Spock goes over and

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then mind melds. And rather than getting mind

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meld with her, he gets suddenly controlled by

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this image of a Gorn, which causes him to punch.

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Poor old Ensign No -Name across the... Actually,

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no, he'd just got a name, so they couldn't kill

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him, they'd named him. He'd just got a name,

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yeah, and he's not in the correct uniform. I've

00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:49.980
got a name, I'm not going to die! Yeah. And then

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he gets punched across the floor. He had a lot

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of lines in episode one. That's what made me

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think is the Gorn thing some sort of implanted

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thing. So have they implanted... Or does an implanted

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memory, which basically causes... I don't know,

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do they always end up wanting to go back to the

00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:08.779
Gorn and then they get kind of re -eaten or...

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I don't know. That's the only thing that's made

00:19:11.509 --> 00:19:14.029
me think, is there something more to it? This

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is going to sound really bad. Everyone's going

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to hate me for this. So that guy, the new doctor

00:19:21.009 --> 00:19:24.930
helper, gives me a fear that the other doctor's

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going to die. Now, the reason I say that is because...

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Oh, but he's a nurse, which makes me then think...

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You have to listen to what I'm saying. So in

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The Walking Dead, which I've watched a lot of...

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Whenever they brought in a new character, they

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were replacing another one. Now, there's a trope

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that me and a few other people who watched it

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noticed that when they were bringing in a person

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of colour, a person of a colour was going to

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die. And that was consistent throughout multiple

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seasons of The Walking Dead. Okay, fair enough.

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So that could be a possibility. I would put it

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down to possibly that maybe Chapel just didn't

00:20:04.769 --> 00:20:06.509
get as much filming on this one, whether she

00:20:06.509 --> 00:20:08.650
was doing something else. Maybe she's going to

00:20:08.650 --> 00:20:10.910
disappear off with new boyfriend and actually

00:20:10.910 --> 00:20:13.230
get married and we'll just lose her for a few

00:20:13.230 --> 00:20:15.970
episodes. Not sure. I don't know. I'm hoping

00:20:15.970 --> 00:20:17.750
they don't because genuinely the Doctor is a

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character who they could do so much with. Yeah.

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He is... The stuff with his daughter in season

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one, absolutely brilliant. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:31.059
that really helped because I think... It made

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him human. That made him one of the strongest

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backstory -filled characters in it. 100 % it

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did, 100%. But with episode three, just going

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back to the Gorn Insider, it could be that Gorn

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Insider is the one that's doing stuff to the

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pilot. Well, that's it. Is there some sort of

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psychic connection? I know you said they did

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it with the Borg. I don't know. It's very awkward.

00:20:56.589 --> 00:20:58.589
Because they are saying it's like a hive mind,

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so there must be some kind of telepathy. Which

00:21:00.849 --> 00:21:03.450
we got from episode one, didn't we? Yes, they're

00:21:03.450 --> 00:21:05.869
kind of using a frequency to, maybe that's where

00:21:05.869 --> 00:21:08.430
the Borg got it from. Maybe the Borg early on

00:21:08.430 --> 00:21:11.630
assimilated the Gorn. And there's little Gorn

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walking around with little lasers with their

00:21:13.089 --> 00:21:16.509
little beady head going. You watch them do that.

00:21:16.589 --> 00:21:20.269
You watch them have Gorn Borg. Borg Gorn. Yeah,

00:21:20.289 --> 00:21:22.730
I'd like to see that. Yeah, well, it's seven

00:21:22.730 --> 00:21:28.769
of lizard. Seven of... It's that Gorn noise,

00:21:28.910 --> 00:21:34.970
is it? Sniffing around. Anyway, so that's all

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the Star Trek I've watched. Okay. Then we play,

00:21:38.369 --> 00:21:40.150
I'll get back to TV in a minute, we'll chop and

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change, we played some Battlefield 6. We did.

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I'm not going to buy it. Is it called Battlefield

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6? Yeah, it's called Battlefield 6. It is Battlefield

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6. I'm not going to buy it. We did two beta weekends,

00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:51.039
beta weekends, however you want to pronounce

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it. I enjoyed it. I got horribly frustrated at

00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:58.980
the same time. And I just feel like it doesn't

00:21:58.980 --> 00:22:03.039
feel like the Battlefield era that we grew up

00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.859
with. So Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3. They were

00:22:07.859 --> 00:22:12.099
particularly good. I can't explain why. Everything

00:22:12.099 --> 00:22:16.849
about those games felt right. This feels... It

00:22:16.849 --> 00:22:20.029
just felt very, almost generic. It felt like

00:22:20.029 --> 00:22:23.589
a generic first -person shooter set in modern

00:22:23.589 --> 00:22:27.210
day with a handful of vehicles. Whereas the other

00:22:27.210 --> 00:22:31.589
games, it used to feel big. It felt bold. It

00:22:31.589 --> 00:22:33.990
felt really powerful. And this just felt, this

00:22:33.990 --> 00:22:36.529
is just a running gun. It's almost felt like

00:22:36.529 --> 00:22:42.170
COD. Yeah. I'm not sold. Now, I know we've only

00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:45.410
played the beta maps. That's fine. They may well...

00:22:45.789 --> 00:22:49.890
um when it comes out have absolutely phenomenal

00:22:49.890 --> 00:22:52.230
ones and they may listen to a load of the talk

00:22:52.230 --> 00:22:56.069
but a load of the talk for example is dickheads

00:22:56.069 --> 00:22:58.069
just saying oh i can't believe they've done so

00:22:58.069 --> 00:23:00.470
much sniper glare turn off sniper glare it's

00:23:00.470 --> 00:23:03.380
unfair Wow. So when I look at the mountain in

00:23:03.380 --> 00:23:04.779
the middle of that map, and everyone that's played

00:23:04.779 --> 00:23:06.799
the Battlefield 6 and 8 game will know exactly

00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:08.700
what we're talking about there. Yeah, yeah. So

00:23:08.700 --> 00:23:10.359
when I look out at that mountain right now and

00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.359
I see the 12 fucking glinting sniper rifles,

00:23:13.420 --> 00:23:15.880
because that's what's normally there, no, I won't

00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.480
see anything. So I'll just be dead from something

00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:20.859
that I can't see at all. They cannot remove that.

00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:22.539
Well, that's all that people are asking for.

00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:24.220
It's hard for fuck's sake. Yeah. Really? It's

00:23:24.220 --> 00:23:27.349
the five people who are loud on Twitter. who

00:23:27.349 --> 00:23:29.650
play sniper and don't want to have fun in the

00:23:29.650 --> 00:23:31.970
game. There is sniper glare in real life. That's

00:23:31.970 --> 00:23:34.750
the reason they do it. That's why people don't

00:23:34.750 --> 00:23:37.630
just sit there staring through. That's why they

00:23:37.630 --> 00:23:41.170
have a spotter with binoculars. The only way

00:23:41.170 --> 00:23:46.170
that it would be fair is like you've said offline

00:23:46.170 --> 00:23:48.910
before, they'll have to limit the number of snipers.

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Two snipers a team and then also... You're only

00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:53.799
allowed to be a sniper for a certain amount of

00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:55.819
lives. Well, this is it. I think what you do

00:23:55.819 --> 00:23:58.759
is you say, we're playing a match that's got

00:23:58.759 --> 00:24:02.259
64 players. Let's say you've got 200 lives for

00:24:02.259 --> 00:24:05.819
your whole team on each team. Everyone can be

00:24:05.819 --> 00:24:09.940
a sniper twice. They can be unlimited support.

00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:14.640
They can be unlimited assault, but engineer as

00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.519
well. Maybe you're limited to. four times or

00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:20.960
you're limited to you can only spawn an engineer

00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.779
if there's vehicles that require engineer work

00:24:23.779 --> 00:24:26.940
and the sniper yeah everyone is limited to the

00:24:26.940 --> 00:24:28.500
number of times they can use it because otherwise

00:24:28.500 --> 00:24:32.940
we were losing matches because half the team

00:24:32.940 --> 00:24:35.059
were trying to be snipers and not progressing

00:24:35.059 --> 00:24:37.200
up the map so this is the problem with it so

00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.700
i did actually really like it and i am going

00:24:39.700 --> 00:24:43.470
to get it so that's where we different on our

00:24:43.470 --> 00:24:45.930
verdict but the actual issues we both have the

00:24:45.930 --> 00:24:48.970
same issues the issue with this battlefield and

00:24:48.970 --> 00:24:51.210
it has been with every single battlefield since

00:24:51.210 --> 00:24:55.390
whenever you have people that play games like

00:24:55.390 --> 00:24:59.569
cod or other fps games where it's all about just

00:24:59.569 --> 00:25:02.670
killing and you can win yeah You can't do that

00:25:02.670 --> 00:25:03.910
in Battlefield. You've got to push the objective.

00:25:04.190 --> 00:25:06.150
And we're playing objective -based games like

00:25:06.150 --> 00:25:08.670
Conquest, where you have to go to one of, say,

00:25:08.730 --> 00:25:11.049
five positions, or Rush, where you've got to

00:25:11.049 --> 00:25:13.430
push two positions, then move forward two positions.

00:25:13.670 --> 00:25:18.990
And kills don't matter. It's all about getting

00:25:18.990 --> 00:25:22.750
the points, and that's how you win. And actually...

00:25:23.500 --> 00:25:27.079
Okay, yeah. Kills matter from a defensive perspective.

00:25:27.140 --> 00:25:28.980
When you're a defender, you need to knock down

00:25:28.980 --> 00:25:32.140
their numbers because then the other team will

00:25:32.140 --> 00:25:34.440
lose. So as a defender, yeah, you want to kill

00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:37.400
them. So I can understand being a sniper in that

00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.079
position. But like the attacking team, there's

00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:43.019
no point being a sniper. There's no point because

00:25:43.019 --> 00:25:44.759
you're just going to lay there. The other team

00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:47.640
has an infinite amount of spawns because they're

00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:50.160
the defending team. But even on the maps where

00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:54.269
it's you... go i guess it's kind of like king

00:25:54.269 --> 00:25:56.170
of the hill essentially but with multiple points

00:25:56.170 --> 00:26:01.089
it's you get people who just sit there and snipe

00:26:01.089 --> 00:26:05.369
and that particular level has got some very strong

00:26:05.369 --> 00:26:08.670
elevation points for snipers and if you took

00:26:08.670 --> 00:26:10.650
that glare away you would never see them and

00:26:10.650 --> 00:26:13.269
the problem is there's lots of issues that i've

00:26:13.269 --> 00:26:17.799
got with it the rpg is well, well underpowered.

00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:19.799
Massively, massively underpowered. Let's put

00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:21.799
it this way. You've got a group of six people

00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:24.819
all close to each other. If you, in real life,

00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.660
put an RPG into the middle of them, they would

00:26:27.660 --> 00:26:30.579
be stuffed. They'd be obliterated. This gives

00:26:30.579 --> 00:26:33.420
you suppression notification. Yeah, exactly.

00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:36.539
What's that? What they should do, they need to

00:26:36.539 --> 00:26:40.960
massively ramp up the power of the RPG. I mean,

00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:43.839
I can put up with needing to do four hits on

00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:45.670
a tank with it. I can put up with that. I can

00:26:45.670 --> 00:26:47.750
understand that. Tanks are a big, massive thing.

00:26:48.029 --> 00:26:51.930
But for to kill a person? No, you just change

00:26:51.930 --> 00:26:54.950
what the damage is like to a person. Or you rank

00:26:54.950 --> 00:26:56.710
the damage up like they've done with the grenade

00:26:56.710 --> 00:27:01.950
launcher on the assault and give you less rockets.

00:27:02.589 --> 00:27:06.369
That's how you solve it. If you want to, when

00:27:06.369 --> 00:27:07.849
you've got the assault guy, you've got two grenades,

00:27:08.109 --> 00:27:10.509
you can level a building with one grenade. You

00:27:10.509 --> 00:27:13.470
cannot with an RPG. The RPG will not blow a hole

00:27:13.470 --> 00:27:15.690
in some of the walls. Yeah, and that's exactly

00:27:15.690 --> 00:27:18.450
what... You do 15 damage to a tank with an RPG.

00:27:18.569 --> 00:27:22.349
You do 85 with a grenade launcher. How is that

00:27:22.349 --> 00:27:24.289
the same? So with two grenades, I could blow

00:27:24.289 --> 00:27:27.710
the tank up, but... All four or five of my rockets,

00:27:27.769 --> 00:27:30.250
the tank is still flipping there. Well, fingers

00:27:30.250 --> 00:27:31.329
crossed that's one of the things they're going

00:27:31.329 --> 00:27:33.390
to fix. And talking about tanks, I know we both

00:27:33.390 --> 00:27:35.789
had this issue and this really did get on my

00:27:35.789 --> 00:27:39.329
tits. I don't mind if people spawn into a tank

00:27:39.329 --> 00:27:43.809
before me. That is fine. What I care about is

00:27:43.809 --> 00:27:46.349
then people spawning into a tank and then refusing

00:27:46.349 --> 00:27:49.329
to progress up the battlefield, attempting just

00:27:49.329 --> 00:27:52.869
to take pot shots. with the cannon because they

00:27:52.869 --> 00:27:54.890
don't want to drive it any forward in case someone

00:27:54.890 --> 00:27:57.130
comes towards them, kills them, and they lose

00:27:57.130 --> 00:28:00.329
the tank. Tanks are to push objectives. Yeah.

00:28:00.450 --> 00:28:02.750
That's what it should be used for. People carrying

00:28:02.750 --> 00:28:05.190
push objective, push sniper positions with them.

00:28:05.269 --> 00:28:08.730
The sniper's got, okay, they've got C4, but that's

00:28:08.730 --> 00:28:10.190
not going to be very... They've got to come out

00:28:10.190 --> 00:28:11.490
of their sniper nest to come and do it. They've

00:28:11.490 --> 00:28:12.730
got to come out of their nest to do it. You just

00:28:12.730 --> 00:28:15.390
cause havoc with a tank. It'll blow up. Who cares?

00:28:15.900 --> 00:28:18.680
what two to five minutes later it'll respawn

00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:20.700
again get another one exactly and that's what

00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:22.700
annoyed me you've got people sitting back in

00:28:22.700 --> 00:28:26.099
safe zones yeah trying to pot shot with the cannon

00:28:26.099 --> 00:28:28.880
it's like you're doing nothing yeah in fact all

00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.960
you've done now around on the map we were talking

00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.880
about around zone c is normal there's just now

00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.299
full of dust debris and smoke and oh i'm dead

00:28:37.299 --> 00:28:40.180
because there's 30 of their bloody team sat there

00:28:40.180 --> 00:28:42.960
and i couldn't see a damn thing because all you've

00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.559
done is put in a load of shells not hit anything

00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.319
except for rock and you've caused a problem even

00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.740
if you don't kill anyone with a tank it causes

00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:53.670
panic You just drive it into an objective and

00:28:53.670 --> 00:28:56.369
everyone scatters. Well, that's it. Exactly.

00:28:56.430 --> 00:28:58.549
And if you've loaded it properly, you've got

00:28:58.549 --> 00:29:01.009
your whole team in there, drive it in, they jump

00:29:01.009 --> 00:29:04.329
out, and boom, if you've contested a spot, one

00:29:04.329 --> 00:29:05.930
to five, guess what? You're going to take that

00:29:05.930 --> 00:29:08.710
spot. It's a game that, when it comes out, I'm

00:29:08.710 --> 00:29:10.589
going to get it, but you want to play it a month

00:29:10.589 --> 00:29:13.029
after it's released because all those COD players

00:29:13.029 --> 00:29:16.509
will go back to COD and it'll be the people that

00:29:16.509 --> 00:29:19.369
understand the Battlefield game still playing

00:29:19.369 --> 00:29:21.490
it. Do we know what the release date is? It's

00:29:21.490 --> 00:29:24.829
October 19th. So I will get it November Black

00:29:24.829 --> 00:29:27.250
Friday. It will be in the sale, no doubt. Then

00:29:27.250 --> 00:29:30.230
I might pick it up, especially if there's a couple

00:29:30.230 --> 00:29:32.289
more of us getting it so we can kind of have

00:29:32.289 --> 00:29:35.250
that traditional, again, something I miss from

00:29:35.250 --> 00:29:37.710
the old days, our Bad Company 2 days, when we

00:29:37.710 --> 00:29:40.569
would log on as a foursome, not just me and you,

00:29:40.650 --> 00:29:42.329
which is what we did over these two weekends,

00:29:42.549 --> 00:29:45.210
but we had a foursome and we properly did team

00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:47.890
tactics. We stayed tight together and we destroyed

00:29:47.890 --> 00:29:52.200
maps. We were awesome. So yeah, maybe we'll see.

00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.559
Right, that's the game. There's no Black Hawk.

00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:58.240
I'm disappointed. No, but let's not talk about

00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.900
your low -flying skills. Yeah, I need practice,

00:30:01.059 --> 00:30:06.519
all right? Okay, final thing I'll talk about,

00:30:06.579 --> 00:30:07.880
I think, because I don't think there was much

00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.920
more sci -fi I'd done. I've watched episode one

00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.359
of Alien Earth. Ah, we nearly finished episode

00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:14.680
one. We were watching it just before you came

00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:15.920
and then we started talking. We've got like 10

00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.500
minutes left of episode one. It's so good. It's

00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:20.619
really, really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a

00:30:20.619 --> 00:30:22.980
little bit weird watching the Alien universe

00:30:22.980 --> 00:30:26.640
knowing that Peter Pan and Ice Age are canon.

00:30:26.980 --> 00:30:29.180
Yes. Which is what I meant about linking into

00:30:29.180 --> 00:30:31.900
Star Trek earlier. Because what is it? Star Trek's

00:30:31.900 --> 00:30:36.660
gone. So it's 2148. So like Ice Age is like 120,

00:30:37.259 --> 00:30:39.779
130 years old at that point. They've been really

00:30:39.779 --> 00:30:42.440
clever to an extent with this. So it's 2148.

00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:46.950
Yeah. all the technology looks pretty ancient

00:30:46.950 --> 00:30:49.529
because they've kept it in line with the alien

00:30:49.529 --> 00:30:52.289
film but then they've thought well how can we

00:30:52.289 --> 00:30:53.910
kind of go ahead with this so they've kind of

00:30:53.910 --> 00:30:57.130
shown almost like when people have been in flats

00:30:57.130 --> 00:30:59.089
and properties when we see them growing up for

00:30:59.089 --> 00:31:01.230
example the property looks like it's from the

00:31:01.230 --> 00:31:04.390
70s yeah which fits really nicely so it fits

00:31:04.390 --> 00:31:09.450
feels like yeah we've had 30 years maybe or 20

00:31:09.450 --> 00:31:14.980
years of sudden mass expansion of technology

00:31:14.980 --> 00:31:18.319
which kind of fits with with kind of what does

00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.720
happen yeah so it it kind of fits it in a weird

00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:25.420
way i'm still i still wasn't 100 certain on it

00:31:25.420 --> 00:31:28.259
it's still a bit bit jarring seeing them living

00:31:28.259 --> 00:31:31.039
in this old flat everything's old wood old tv

00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:34.460
crt tv and then suddenly we're in the future

00:31:34.460 --> 00:31:36.059
we've got all these futuristic buildings but

00:31:36.059 --> 00:31:38.440
even then it's still kind of it still looks right

00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.480
it's odd It's odd, but it works. Well, it's just

00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.619
keeping with what they originally had in the

00:31:44.619 --> 00:31:48.799
style of Alien films. They haven't tried to reimagine

00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.619
what 2148 was. If someone made a film now and

00:31:51.619 --> 00:31:54.660
goes, oh, it's 2148. Holograms everywhere. It

00:31:54.660 --> 00:31:57.759
would look more like probably Blade Runner -y.

00:31:57.900 --> 00:31:59.720
It was exactly the one I was going to go with.

00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:01.839
It's going to look like Blade Runner, which,

00:32:01.940 --> 00:32:08.700
fine. Yeah. Weird thing, though. How did you

00:32:08.700 --> 00:32:10.720
end the episode so far? What was the last thing

00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:16.720
you saw? The army guys have gone onto the ship

00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:18.779
and the black dude has got them at gunpoint.

00:32:19.019 --> 00:32:21.180
Fine. Okay, so you haven't seen the bit you're

00:32:21.180 --> 00:32:23.099
going to get to, which is particularly confusing

00:32:23.099 --> 00:32:27.099
as to why they let her do what she does. So you'll

00:32:27.099 --> 00:32:29.720
see what I mean. You go, huh, that is a really

00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.420
weird thing that they would let her just do this.

00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.839
Well, she said that she wants to go and help.

00:32:36.140 --> 00:32:38.730
Yeah. Okay. But that's as far, and he said yes,

00:32:38.809 --> 00:32:40.069
and that's as far as I know. But isn't she like

00:32:40.069 --> 00:32:43.130
12 or something? She's meant to be like 12. So

00:32:43.130 --> 00:32:46.869
are the other kids. Yeah. But you'll see her

00:32:46.869 --> 00:32:49.769
do something as she gets ready to go and help.

00:32:50.170 --> 00:32:52.049
Oh, is she going to be like naked? No, no, no,

00:32:52.109 --> 00:32:54.309
no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that. She literally

00:32:54.309 --> 00:32:57.289
does something, and it's like, and then later

00:32:57.289 --> 00:32:58.970
you're seeing her getting onto the ship to go

00:32:58.970 --> 00:33:00.890
and help, and that thing is still with her. It's

00:33:00.890 --> 00:33:04.190
like, why is someone allowing this? Oh, okay.

00:33:04.589 --> 00:33:07.390
So, yeah, you've got that. But the rest of it

00:33:07.390 --> 00:33:11.089
feels really good. The whole idea of having,

00:33:11.269 --> 00:33:13.549
they've explained away some of it. So you've

00:33:13.549 --> 00:33:15.369
got your hybrids, which she is. You've got your

00:33:15.369 --> 00:33:19.769
cyborgs, which the bloke on the Survivor is on

00:33:19.769 --> 00:33:21.970
the Weyland -Yutani ship. Yeah, yeah. And then

00:33:21.970 --> 00:33:23.890
you've got your synthetics, which are from the

00:33:23.890 --> 00:33:26.289
original film as well. So I like how they did

00:33:26.289 --> 00:33:30.289
that. The alien looked brilliant. So it's cyborgs,

00:33:30.289 --> 00:33:33.009
synthetics and hybrids, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah,

00:33:33.029 --> 00:33:34.789
the alien looked brilliant. I loved some of the

00:33:34.789 --> 00:33:38.190
alien create... The weird eye thing. The weird

00:33:38.190 --> 00:33:40.890
eye thing. I loved it. Oh, he's so cute. Look

00:33:40.890 --> 00:33:43.349
at him. I can't wait to see what he does. When

00:33:43.349 --> 00:33:44.990
the other ones that look like little condoms

00:33:44.990 --> 00:33:47.349
with legs kind of suck your face dry and suck

00:33:47.349 --> 00:33:50.069
all your blood out into like a giant parasitic

00:33:50.069 --> 00:33:53.910
tick thing. That was pretty grim. So I'm looking

00:33:53.910 --> 00:34:00.250
forward to what the little eyes do. What have

00:34:00.250 --> 00:34:03.400
I been doing? Golly gosh, you basically just

00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:06.319
said everything that I have been doing. I win.

00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.239
Get my notes here. Alien Earth, yes. I said I

00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.000
played the football game. Did I say that on here

00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.239
or did I say off air? No, that was off air. So

00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.599
I played FC25. For some reason, I had a feeling

00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.739
I wanted to play a football game, which I haven't

00:34:17.739 --> 00:34:19.320
done in years. Played it. Played one game, 1

00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.480
-10 -1. I think I'm just going to leave it like

00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:23.199
that and then just never play. Maybe I'll just

00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:24.860
never play again. I'm the champion of the world.

00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:27.099
100%, mate. 100 % win record. I'm not going to

00:34:27.099 --> 00:34:31.809
go back to it. So, yeah, we're watching Wednesday.

00:34:31.989 --> 00:34:33.610
So we've watched the four episodes of Wednesday

00:34:33.610 --> 00:34:36.010
that they deemed to allow us to watch. Oh, I've

00:34:36.010 --> 00:34:37.309
never watched any of that. Because they want

00:34:37.309 --> 00:34:42.309
to splurge out everyone's money across months

00:34:42.309 --> 00:34:44.329
for these subscription services. Yeah. Yeah,

00:34:44.329 --> 00:34:47.769
I don't particularly think it's appropriate.

00:34:48.699 --> 00:34:51.400
for an 11 year old oh well that's fine then I

00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.320
won't I don't think so and I have a feeling Jem

00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.119
will probably think the same but I know other

00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.860
people that don't think that so it might be one

00:35:00.860 --> 00:35:05.400
to put into your app but I personally think Jem

00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.159
will have the same opinion I've already said

00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.440
to Kay she's not allowed to watch it until I've

00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.179
watched it and then I will make the judgement

00:35:11.179 --> 00:35:13.320
based on me watching it because I quite fancied

00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.300
watching it yeah did you watch Goosebumps? no

00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:20.179
Okay, because it's kind of that level. So if

00:35:20.179 --> 00:35:22.079
she's watched the Goosebumps, there's nothing

00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.880
worse in this. What, the new Goosebumps with

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.019
Ross Geller? Yeah, with Ross Geller. Which looked

00:35:28.019 --> 00:35:30.239
like, oh, it's Goosebumps. That's a kid's story.

00:35:30.340 --> 00:35:31.579
This looks really good. And then watching the

00:35:31.579 --> 00:35:33.500
trailer, it's like, this is not a kid's thing

00:35:33.500 --> 00:35:35.719
anymore. Is Miranda still here? Do you think

00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:41.460
Wednesday is worse or less than Goosebumps? Considering

00:35:41.460 --> 00:35:43.800
someone in Goosebumps got completely immolated.

00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.739
No one can hear you. Come over to the microphone.

00:35:49.369 --> 00:35:52.309
Miranda. Come over to the microphone. We're talking

00:35:52.309 --> 00:35:59.369
to an empty room. Come sit here. Come on. I have

00:35:59.369 --> 00:36:03.010
to give some welcome music for her. What's your

00:36:03.010 --> 00:36:07.030
wrestling entry music? If you're a wrestler joining

00:36:07.030 --> 00:36:08.769
a wrestling match, they have entry music, don't

00:36:08.769 --> 00:36:12.250
they? You ever watch wrestling before? What's

00:36:12.250 --> 00:36:20.869
your entry music? Golden. So soda pop. I've got

00:36:20.869 --> 00:36:24.809
to say, what would your intro music be? For like

00:36:24.809 --> 00:36:28.050
boxing or wrestling, whatever you were going

00:36:28.050 --> 00:36:30.929
to do. Yeah, see, I should have known this before

00:36:30.929 --> 00:36:32.869
I started asking everybody else. Yeah, you should

00:36:32.869 --> 00:36:37.429
have. Barbie Girl. Barbie Girl, nice. Well, I

00:36:37.429 --> 00:36:40.989
love the Jackass films. I love the Jackass films.

00:36:42.539 --> 00:36:45.719
The TV show. They have entertained me for years.

00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.960
And Roger Alan Wade has done some music for that.

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.000
I'm sure it was music before this, but mine would

00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:57.539
be purely to psych out the opponent. Right. So

00:36:57.539 --> 00:37:01.739
let me play it for you. Oh, hang on. That wasn't

00:37:01.739 --> 00:37:04.239
very loud, was it? It was not very loud. Let's

00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:16.869
try that one again. Can I change my answer now?

00:37:21.130 --> 00:37:29.070
Now imagine walking out to that one and your

00:37:29.070 --> 00:37:32.190
contestants look at you going, what the fuck?

00:37:32.690 --> 00:37:38.239
Can I change mine to I'm my own grandpa? Right,

00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.059
you've got to speak like right over here. What

00:37:42.059 --> 00:37:44.079
was we asking? What was the question? Oh yeah,

00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:50.260
what's worse? Wednesday or Goosebumps? Wednesday.

00:37:50.699 --> 00:37:53.699
Even though someone gets set on fire in Goosebumps.

00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:56.579
You see in series one someone gets set on fire.

00:37:56.780 --> 00:38:01.599
I don't remember that, but Goosebumps aired at

00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:06.079
a children's time slot. No, I mean the new Goosebumps.

00:38:06.179 --> 00:38:07.659
Oh, the new Goosebumps. Yeah, that's what I'm

00:38:07.659 --> 00:38:09.039
saying. I don't think anyone's got set on fire

00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.880
on the CITV or whatever it was version of it.

00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.179
I was thinking of the children's version. Yeah,

00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:17.860
because remember we watched it and we're like,

00:38:17.940 --> 00:38:21.360
oh my God, we couldn't believe this. I think

00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:25.789
they're both equally as dark. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

00:38:25.869 --> 00:38:27.250
I think that's what I was saying. If you had

00:38:27.250 --> 00:38:29.469
watched that Goosebumps and didn't think it was

00:38:29.469 --> 00:38:30.849
appropriate, then I don't think you'll think

00:38:30.849 --> 00:38:32.429
Wednesday's appropriate. Well, I watched the

00:38:32.429 --> 00:38:34.710
trailer and thought, wow, okay, no, that's not

00:38:34.710 --> 00:38:36.789
Goosebumps. I know we're not watching that. So,

00:38:36.789 --> 00:38:39.349
okay, no, that's fine. That answers my question.

00:38:39.690 --> 00:38:42.429
Yeah. Okay. So that was that one. What else have

00:38:42.429 --> 00:38:44.250
we watched, Miranda? Oh, yeah, Count of Monte

00:38:44.250 --> 00:38:47.269
Cristo. So I really wanted to watch this series

00:38:47.269 --> 00:38:50.150
called The Count of Monte Cristo. Is it sci -fi?

00:38:51.469 --> 00:38:56.650
No, it's not. And it's not me not knowing what

00:38:56.650 --> 00:38:59.190
sci -fi is. And it's not fantasy either. Nope.

00:38:59.469 --> 00:39:01.010
But it's what we've been watching, so I don't

00:39:01.010 --> 00:39:03.250
care. When did this have to be about sci -fi,

00:39:03.369 --> 00:39:07.329
TJ? Are you off? Goodbye. Say goodbye to everybody.

00:39:07.710 --> 00:39:11.309
Bye. Oh, sorry. You weren't talking to me. No,

00:39:11.349 --> 00:39:13.429
not you. You've got to stay. You haven't got

00:39:13.429 --> 00:39:14.849
a choice to stay. I'm going to move my microphone.

00:39:17.289 --> 00:39:20.170
So will you tell me if it's sci -fi? It's not

00:39:20.170 --> 00:39:26.480
sci -fi. It's a guy. He goes to jail for 15 years

00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.380
and comes out and wants to get his own back on

00:39:28.380 --> 00:39:31.519
everybody. Nonce watch? They're not children.

00:39:31.820 --> 00:39:34.280
There's no children in it. Well, there is children

00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:39.239
in it, but no one gets nonced. Right, okay. Thank

00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:42.960
you. Oh, love hearts. Thank you. And the cat's

00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.039
going for the love hearts. There was something

00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.670
nonce watchy. Oh, yeah, in War of the Worlds.

00:39:47.750 --> 00:39:48.809
We're getting there. There was an answer for

00:39:48.809 --> 00:39:50.610
it in War of the Worlds. Oh, boy. Oh, I'm not

00:39:50.610 --> 00:39:52.110
allowed to talk about the Count of One to Christopher.

00:39:52.190 --> 00:39:53.469
No, it's brilliant. Everyone should download

00:39:53.469 --> 00:39:56.869
the You app and watch it. Well, it's not. Oh,

00:39:56.969 --> 00:40:00.949
I'm not even going there. Okay, so two audiobooks.

00:40:01.769 --> 00:40:04.309
The Geoff Wayne's War of the Worlds audiobook

00:40:04.309 --> 00:40:06.409
that we spoke about on the last episode. I got

00:40:06.409 --> 00:40:08.909
it, downloaded it, listened to it. Brilliant.

00:40:09.730 --> 00:40:11.849
So has Karen's listened to it as well. It's great.

00:40:11.949 --> 00:40:13.469
If you're listening to it, and I even said to

00:40:13.469 --> 00:40:16.840
someone on... I think he was saying, oh, I really

00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.559
wish there was a version of War of the Worlds

00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:20.280
that was set in Victorian England rather than

00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.559
all the modern ones. What? Have you tried listening

00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:27.860
to this? For all of those that want that. But

00:40:27.860 --> 00:40:30.219
don't have an Audible account. I'm telling you,

00:40:30.260 --> 00:40:34.000
don't do this. Do not go to archive .org. Do

00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.360
not type in War of the Worlds musical drama starring

00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.519
Michael Sheen. Do not do that because you will

00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.360
not find an MP3 file that you can download free

00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.119
of charge and listen to at your own will without

00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:48.940
any other players required. Don't do that. Because

00:40:48.940 --> 00:40:52.699
you didn't do that. Because he did not do that.

00:40:52.820 --> 00:40:55.300
Right, no, for legal purposes, I said don't do

00:40:55.300 --> 00:40:59.539
that. Okay, right. Don't do that. Do that. Okay,

00:40:59.619 --> 00:41:08.460
so... And then Karen sent me a recommendation

00:41:08.460 --> 00:41:10.639
for another audiobook, and it's called Project

00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.539
Hail Mary. And this is a very cool one. And that's

00:41:14.539 --> 00:41:16.480
getting turned into a film. It is, apparently,

00:41:16.619 --> 00:41:21.659
with Sexy Ken. Yes, Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling.

00:41:22.380 --> 00:41:25.219
It looks really good. Is there a trailer out?

00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.179
There's a trailer out. From what I understand,

00:41:27.340 --> 00:41:31.320
he's like a teacher or one of the scientists.

00:41:31.860 --> 00:41:36.360
He wakes up and they basically tell him, yeah,

00:41:36.460 --> 00:41:38.300
you were the most qualified to go and do this

00:41:38.300 --> 00:41:40.460
job. So you're on your own, on your way there

00:41:40.460 --> 00:41:42.480
for many years. There's well more to it than

00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.000
that. I'll have to watch the trailer and compare

00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.039
because it'd be interesting. Because, you know,

00:41:46.059 --> 00:41:47.559
it's like trailers and tell you the whole story.

00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:50.699
It'd be interesting to see what route... Because

00:41:50.699 --> 00:41:53.510
I'm already... Because she had said to me, Karen

00:41:53.510 --> 00:41:56.329
had said it was going to be a film. I'm now like,

00:41:56.489 --> 00:41:59.989
how are they going to put this, the way that

00:41:59.989 --> 00:42:03.869
it's written, into a film? But the way the audiobook's

00:42:03.869 --> 00:42:05.369
coming out is really good because it's the same

00:42:05.369 --> 00:42:09.590
narrator as who does the Bobbyverse books. And

00:42:09.590 --> 00:42:12.349
if anybody is familiar with Bobbyverse, they'll

00:42:12.349 --> 00:42:14.309
know how absolutely fucking brilliant the Bobbyverse

00:42:14.309 --> 00:42:16.289
books are. And I'm actually going to get you

00:42:16.289 --> 00:42:21.840
the narrator's name because Ray Porter. I recognise

00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.019
the name. So the book is by a guy called Andy

00:42:24.019 --> 00:42:29.139
Weir. Yeah, and it's really good. I don't really...

00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:31.219
I'm not going to say anything else other than

00:42:31.219 --> 00:42:33.159
that because the trailer clearly isn't giving

00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:35.380
you all the information. And I'm wondering if

00:42:35.380 --> 00:42:37.639
that's going to be a big drop for the people

00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:39.539
who watch the film. I would imagine so. Where

00:42:39.539 --> 00:42:41.380
it's actually really the kind of main aspect

00:42:41.380 --> 00:42:43.659
of the book. Either way. So I'm not going to

00:42:43.659 --> 00:42:46.179
say anything. It looked really interesting. I'm

00:42:46.179 --> 00:42:47.940
very quickly talking about trailers. The trailer

00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:50.219
a little while ago, and I think it happened when

00:42:50.219 --> 00:42:51.760
you were on holiday actually and we just didn't

00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.340
talk about it. The new Running Man trailer dropped

00:42:54.340 --> 00:42:56.860
and it looks really good. Yes, it does look really

00:42:56.860 --> 00:42:59.349
good. I love Arnie. That will always be a great

00:42:59.349 --> 00:43:01.889
version of the film. This looks good, though.

00:43:02.050 --> 00:43:04.389
I think we should go to the cinema to watch that.

00:43:04.489 --> 00:43:07.030
We went to the cinema. Oh, we went to the cinema.

00:43:07.929 --> 00:43:09.809
But it's not sci -fi, so we can't talk about

00:43:09.809 --> 00:43:11.389
it. Yes, we can. Don't go anywhere near that

00:43:11.389 --> 00:43:14.550
button. Crab hands. Crab hands. We watched Naked

00:43:14.550 --> 00:43:18.929
Gun. Absolutely bloody brilliant. She had a butt

00:43:18.929 --> 00:43:21.849
that made the title long for the brand. Yeah,

00:43:21.849 --> 00:43:25.510
long for the brand. Well, there was a comment

00:43:25.510 --> 00:43:28.869
in it. really near the start and pseudo was basically

00:43:28.869 --> 00:43:31.929
hysterics for the next 10 minutes just never

00:43:31.929 --> 00:43:36.230
got past that the cough everything about it you

00:43:36.230 --> 00:43:39.869
know what they did it so much credit and we all

00:43:39.869 --> 00:43:41.849
loved it there's a bit where someone says about

00:43:41.849 --> 00:43:43.670
crab hands and all three of us were laughing

00:43:43.670 --> 00:43:45.650
at it stuff like that and it was those things

00:43:45.650 --> 00:43:47.940
where Everyone loved that bit. And it's almost

00:43:47.940 --> 00:43:50.639
like Seth MacFarlane knew everyone like that

00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.900
because it then gets a call out after the credits.

00:43:53.380 --> 00:43:59.219
And even the credits had random bits inside the

00:43:59.219 --> 00:44:01.139
credits. So it made it worth just sitting there

00:44:01.139 --> 00:44:03.019
and trying to read everyone because there were

00:44:03.019 --> 00:44:07.050
little things in there. Yeah, great stuff. Really,

00:44:07.190 --> 00:44:09.750
if you liked the original Naked Gun films, you

00:44:09.750 --> 00:44:13.329
will definitely enjoy this one. Okay, it's not

00:44:13.329 --> 00:44:15.849
quite in the same ilk as the original three.

00:44:15.949 --> 00:44:19.550
He's a bit more, weirdly a bit better at being

00:44:19.550 --> 00:44:23.289
a cop than the original, but it's still just

00:44:23.289 --> 00:44:26.809
as bad. And it's wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.

00:44:27.369 --> 00:44:31.110
And I love how he doesn't kill people. If you

00:44:31.110 --> 00:44:35.119
notice, whenever he's got the... he goes in as

00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.900
the little girl everyone he basically beats them

00:44:37.900 --> 00:44:41.260
all up or they kill themselves so when he throws

00:44:41.260 --> 00:44:44.039
the mannequin into the middle and they just all

00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.679
shoot he didn't kill him they killed him yeah

00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.800
that is funny when the guy turns into a mannequin

00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:52.179
yeah it was just uh yeah i don't really want

00:44:52.179 --> 00:44:53.480
to say anything else because we want to spoil

00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:55.900
the jokes but it is brilliant definitely watch

00:44:55.900 --> 00:44:58.239
if you can we're now just waiting for police

00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:01.519
academy to come back out Oh, God, yeah. I don't

00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:03.280
know if I'd like a remake of Police Academy.

00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:10.179
I love Police Academy, though. Accessing library

00:45:10.179 --> 00:45:13.659
computer data. We've been talking for ages again.

00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.480
We have been talking for ages again. We need

00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:18.719
to talk about something that happened in 2005.

00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:21.420
Little Tommy Cruise, as you like to call him.

00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.300
Doing a lot of running. Doing a lot of running.

00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:25.780
War of the Worlds. He does. He runs in all his

00:45:25.780 --> 00:45:27.820
films. He does a lot of running in this one.

00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.059
And I don't know if he hurt himself in this one.

00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:32.539
I don't know. And there's not like a big massive

00:45:32.539 --> 00:45:34.719
stunt for him to do either in this one. Doesn't

00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:38.039
he look young? Oh, he does. He looks so young.

00:45:38.139 --> 00:45:40.719
And isn't he a wanker? Oh, he's a prick. What

00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:43.300
a horrible guy he plays. And he plays really

00:45:43.300 --> 00:45:45.500
well. No wonder his son runs away. Yeah, his

00:45:45.500 --> 00:45:48.900
son's a prick as well. Who remarkably looks like

00:45:48.900 --> 00:45:52.280
him. They've got such a good lookalike. The son

00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.059
has really good features that match Tom Cruise.

00:45:55.260 --> 00:45:57.210
You kind of feel like... Actually, yeah, that

00:45:57.210 --> 00:46:02.150
could be his son. Well, you commented slightly

00:46:02.150 --> 00:46:05.309
last episode about child actors and particularly

00:46:05.309 --> 00:46:07.789
about this girl. And they're always made to scream

00:46:07.789 --> 00:46:10.409
and cry and they're pretty much objectionable.

00:46:10.489 --> 00:46:12.590
And unfortunately, that's exactly what this character

00:46:12.590 --> 00:46:16.969
is. Now, I want to say that it's tough. We shouldn't

00:46:16.969 --> 00:46:19.849
badmouth child actors because they are what they

00:46:19.849 --> 00:46:22.230
are. It's how they're directed. It's how they're

00:46:22.230 --> 00:46:26.320
directed. They're either fucking awful. or they're

00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:29.639
acceptable. I think it's very rare. Someone can

00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:33.099
correct me, but I think it's rare if you have

00:46:33.099 --> 00:46:35.320
one that you go, Jesus, they've done a really

00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.219
good blood job. That's the cat attacking a love

00:46:38.219 --> 00:46:40.219
heart packet. I shouldn't have given it the love

00:46:40.219 --> 00:46:44.900
heart, sorry. And I think she is actually okay

00:46:44.900 --> 00:46:48.590
in this. Yeah, I mean, she's been directed to

00:46:48.590 --> 00:46:50.550
scream a lot, but she is doing what she's meant

00:46:50.550 --> 00:46:53.469
to, and a child of her age would be doing in

00:46:53.469 --> 00:46:56.210
this situation. So I can't comment too much on

00:46:56.210 --> 00:46:58.550
it. You're talking about the rare instance. I

00:46:58.550 --> 00:47:01.809
would say Ghostbusters Half -Life, that's the

00:47:01.809 --> 00:47:04.670
one that had the weird CGI -y gone at the end,

00:47:04.690 --> 00:47:08.550
if I remember right. Yeah. As much as I enjoyed

00:47:08.550 --> 00:47:12.730
it, actually, I didn't mind it. The children

00:47:12.730 --> 00:47:16.800
they chose for that were brilliant. And they

00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.239
were really well directed and they were really

00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.940
good actors. So it's the first time in a long

00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:24.360
time I came out and went, I really didn't want

00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:26.960
this to be Ghostbusters Jr. It pretty much became

00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.679
Ghostbusters Jr. But you know what? They were

00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:32.300
fine and they were good. Maybe it's just a case

00:47:32.300 --> 00:47:35.659
of these more modern films, directors and all

00:47:35.659 --> 00:47:38.300
the people on the sets are just better at managing

00:47:38.300 --> 00:47:41.460
kids, that they understand what they need to

00:47:41.460 --> 00:47:46.789
do with... getting a kind of performance out

00:47:46.789 --> 00:47:49.030
of a child. Well, I think a lot of it is down

00:47:49.030 --> 00:47:51.150
to the fact that people realise that actually

00:47:51.150 --> 00:47:53.150
if people go to see a film, they get annoyed

00:47:53.150 --> 00:47:55.469
by a kid that's just screaming all the time.

00:47:56.449 --> 00:47:58.809
We better move away from that. Just like we said

00:47:58.809 --> 00:48:03.429
the other episode about Temple of Doom and screaming

00:48:03.429 --> 00:48:05.590
woman throughout all of it. She's a pain in the

00:48:05.590 --> 00:48:08.050
arse. I can't stand her. I love that film, but

00:48:08.050 --> 00:48:10.929
oh. Get rid of that. And that's not her fault.

00:48:11.570 --> 00:48:14.530
That's what she's been told to fucking do. And

00:48:14.530 --> 00:48:17.110
I think a lot of people basically got the same.

00:48:17.190 --> 00:48:19.530
And if you want to do a film with kids, you've

00:48:19.530 --> 00:48:22.550
got to actually give them a chance to be decent.

00:48:23.469 --> 00:48:27.130
And to be fair, they do a good job in this. I

00:48:27.130 --> 00:48:29.750
mean, Steven Spielberg as a whole for this film

00:48:29.750 --> 00:48:33.269
does a brilliant job. Now, I saw this at the

00:48:33.269 --> 00:48:36.920
cinema. I was a very fond lover of the original,

00:48:37.099 --> 00:48:41.619
of the Jeff Wayne stuff, of the 60s film that

00:48:41.619 --> 00:48:45.320
we talked about in the last episode. I was pretty

00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:48.880
standoffish about it. I remember being younger

00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:51.940
back then. What, 20 years ago? Christ. And to

00:48:51.940 --> 00:48:54.239
think, I didn't think it was all that. I didn't

00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:57.360
really enjoy it that much. I don't think I gave

00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.539
it the credit it was due because having re -watched

00:48:59.539 --> 00:49:03.119
it, actually... really enjoyed it it has some

00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:07.739
great design to it um obviously big plot holes

00:49:07.739 --> 00:49:10.360
big plot holes which we'll discuss no doubt now

00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:15.119
soon um but ultimately it's it's a it's a good

00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:19.659
film there are i i liked it when it first came

00:49:19.659 --> 00:49:21.920
out i've liked it it's it's one of those films

00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:25.059
it's like world war z it's got a special place

00:49:25.059 --> 00:49:27.300
in my heart i can yeah i can keep watching this

00:49:27.300 --> 00:49:30.119
film over and over i won't get bored of it I

00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.679
really like it. It is one of the films that I

00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:35.579
won't change the channel over when it's on. Yeah,

00:49:35.619 --> 00:49:40.519
fair enough. And I think that it's, there are

00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:42.940
moments you just like, you think, come on, that

00:49:42.940 --> 00:49:45.019
wouldn't, even an alien invasion, that wouldn't

00:49:45.019 --> 00:49:47.920
be happening. Like the stuff with the sun, I

00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:51.519
just. You wouldn't. I just don't think he'd be

00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.320
doing that. I don't think he'd be running off

00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.760
to join the army. I just don't think that anybody

00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:57.840
would be doing that. Let's just start at the

00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.940
very beginning of the problems. As I say, I enjoy

00:50:00.940 --> 00:50:03.199
the film. It looks good. The design was good.

00:50:03.340 --> 00:50:06.460
I think the tripods look brilliant. The noise

00:50:06.460 --> 00:50:09.480
they make is great. The noise. The harrowing.

00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.659
Exactly. It's just unsettling. It's good like

00:50:13.659 --> 00:50:16.949
that. We'll talk about the aliens in a little

00:50:16.949 --> 00:50:19.650
bit because there's still a little bit of me

00:50:19.650 --> 00:50:23.030
back at being 21 or however old I was, old back

00:50:23.030 --> 00:50:26.230
then, saying the same thing. And I've looked

00:50:26.230 --> 00:50:28.630
at it now and it's like, that is exactly the

00:50:28.630 --> 00:50:30.710
same point. I've not changed my mind on that.

00:50:30.869 --> 00:50:32.710
But let's go back to the very beginning. I think

00:50:32.710 --> 00:50:36.949
the biggest plot hole is, why did they build

00:50:36.949 --> 00:50:40.250
them on Earth in the fucking first place? Why

00:50:40.250 --> 00:50:43.980
did they bury them? You're telling me with all

00:50:43.980 --> 00:50:49.460
the years of development with subways, tubes,

00:50:49.980 --> 00:50:53.460
tunnels, infrastructure, we've never managed

00:50:53.460 --> 00:50:55.400
to find one of these fucking things. Yeah, that's

00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:57.840
the biggest plot hole. But why are they there?

00:50:58.380 --> 00:51:01.260
There is zero point. And if you've had enough

00:51:01.260 --> 00:51:04.699
technology to build something like that and transport

00:51:04.699 --> 00:51:08.860
yourself across the bloody galaxy using lightning

00:51:08.860 --> 00:51:12.849
bolts, you'd think you're... think they might

00:51:12.849 --> 00:51:15.170
have put some biofuses on their ship so you don't

00:51:15.170 --> 00:51:18.329
end up dying of a common fucking cold yeah like

00:51:18.329 --> 00:51:20.750
because they would have had to have been there

00:51:20.750 --> 00:51:24.989
a long long time ago yeah so this is a pre -planned

00:51:24.989 --> 00:51:29.309
attack on the planet like and how deep were those

00:51:29.309 --> 00:51:31.510
those things would have had to have been extremely

00:51:31.510 --> 00:51:34.969
deep yeah i think it would make more sense if

00:51:34.969 --> 00:51:37.809
they just the lightning just came down and that

00:51:37.809 --> 00:51:40.530
was it that was the ships coming down that would

00:51:41.349 --> 00:51:43.849
make more sense yeah because you could have just

00:51:43.849 --> 00:51:47.369
made it down to well that was just a highly focused

00:51:47.369 --> 00:51:50.909
energy beam let's trek the trek there is a highly

00:51:50.909 --> 00:51:53.090
focused energy beam and as soon as it hit our

00:51:53.090 --> 00:51:57.269
atmosphere it statically charged the ions around

00:51:57.269 --> 00:51:59.550
it causing lightning but that's what basically

00:51:59.550 --> 00:52:02.949
they didn't do it on the earth for whatever reason

00:52:02.949 --> 00:52:04.630
they didn't do it to the surface they just did

00:52:04.630 --> 00:52:08.230
it underground yeah yeah but yeah fine That would

00:52:08.230 --> 00:52:10.409
have been better. Instead, we get this weird

00:52:10.409 --> 00:52:13.849
pod thing that's captured on an old -school 2005

00:52:13.849 --> 00:52:17.090
news camera who's managed to capture enough frames

00:52:17.090 --> 00:52:19.750
to catch lightning. He would never catch it at

00:52:19.750 --> 00:52:22.349
that quality. Exactly. He'd be just like, oh,

00:52:22.610 --> 00:52:26.389
click, click. No, there's nothing there. It'd

00:52:26.389 --> 00:52:29.670
be a smudge. Exactly. So it's perfectly clear.

00:52:30.030 --> 00:52:33.489
So that was kind of one of the problems. It's

00:52:33.489 --> 00:52:38.150
never good when the main character... is immediately

00:52:38.150 --> 00:52:41.670
made to be an utter cunt who's unlikable. Yeah,

00:52:41.730 --> 00:52:45.849
and he was tough to like. I don't even really

00:52:45.849 --> 00:52:48.230
think he gets a redemption arc because, okay,

00:52:48.369 --> 00:52:52.199
yeah, later on he saves his daughter. But that's

00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.760
just more of a kind of. I kind of have to because

00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:56.880
I'm planning on taking these guys. Guess what?

00:52:56.940 --> 00:52:58.719
He's taking them back to their mum because he

00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:00.539
doesn't want to deal with them. Yeah. That's

00:53:00.539 --> 00:53:02.539
the whole point of this story. Let's not forget

00:53:02.539 --> 00:53:04.480
that. I'm going to look after you. I'm going

00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.079
to keep you safe. Now, let's take you back to

00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:07.739
your mum. Let's get you back to your mum. Exactly.

00:53:08.019 --> 00:53:10.559
They kind of. And it does get mentioned by the

00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:13.219
son kind of does say that, you know, why are

00:53:13.219 --> 00:53:15.300
we here? You know, why are we here? You're here

00:53:15.300 --> 00:53:19.480
because mum's here. Yeah, exactly. I think that

00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:21.800
he had a great car. It's one thing. He had a

00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:27.000
brilliant car. It's a kid's doll. I liked the

00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.019
little bit where the mum and the boyfriend are

00:53:30.019 --> 00:53:32.920
dropping the kids off. And Tom Cruise is like,

00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:34.440
oh, it's a really nice car. Obviously taking

00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:36.780
the piss, but it's a nice new car. And the son

00:53:36.780 --> 00:53:38.699
immediately opens the door, smashes it into the

00:53:38.699 --> 00:53:40.659
telephone pole. And then the daughter gets out

00:53:40.659 --> 00:53:42.280
and smashes the door into the telephone pole.

00:53:42.659 --> 00:53:44.500
I was like, I don't know if that was on purpose

00:53:44.500 --> 00:53:46.280
because they do have a little shot of the boyfriend

00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:49.570
going to look like. like he's annoyed i wonder

00:53:49.570 --> 00:53:52.489
if it was it was an accident of the shoe but

00:53:52.489 --> 00:53:55.710
the yeah the thing with them underground i mean

00:53:55.710 --> 00:53:59.789
it's clearly there to build a fear like to give

00:53:59.789 --> 00:54:02.829
some tension that could that be real could there

00:54:02.829 --> 00:54:05.110
really be these things underground totally get

00:54:05.110 --> 00:54:08.849
it and that but that's just the source material

00:54:08.849 --> 00:54:11.900
is that and They're trying to keep to that element

00:54:11.900 --> 00:54:13.739
of the source material. But they aren't, are

00:54:13.739 --> 00:54:16.039
they? The source material is they come in meteorites.

00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:17.920
They think it's a meteorite shower. No, the Jeff

00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:20.820
Wayne's one, the machines are underground, I

00:54:20.820 --> 00:54:23.760
thought. I think the original book is they...

00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.179
Oh, I have to re -listen to the original book.

00:54:26.179 --> 00:54:30.539
Yeah, I need to now then. But it's been bastardised

00:54:30.539 --> 00:54:32.579
so much, I couldn't even tell you what the original

00:54:32.579 --> 00:54:35.500
is anymore. Let's put it that way. Yeah. How

00:54:35.500 --> 00:54:37.099
about in the audiobook? What did they say in

00:54:37.099 --> 00:54:40.079
the audiobook? Oh, but that's based on the Jeff

00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:43.239
Wayne mixed with the original story by HG Wells.

00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.039
Yeah, they kind of... Yeah, now are they underground

00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:49.679
or do they build them? I think they build them.

00:54:50.260 --> 00:54:53.500
But even that would make sense. So the lightning

00:54:53.500 --> 00:54:56.739
strikes, you could have had that happen and then

00:54:56.739 --> 00:55:00.550
you could have started the film with... Two weeks

00:55:00.550 --> 00:55:03.150
ago, we had weird lightning strikes across the

00:55:03.150 --> 00:55:06.329
world. Still no explanation from NASA or scientists.

00:55:07.090 --> 00:55:09.869
Oh, no, no. No, they get the streaks. No, they

00:55:09.869 --> 00:55:12.170
get like this weird blue or green streak or something

00:55:12.170 --> 00:55:17.610
come down and it's a big metal pod and it unscrews

00:55:17.610 --> 00:55:21.369
like in the 53 film does. They unscrews and they

00:55:21.369 --> 00:55:23.289
come out and then that pod must be what turns

00:55:23.289 --> 00:55:27.059
into the tripods. Yes. I think that's how it

00:55:27.059 --> 00:55:28.659
is in Jeff Wayne's book. I think that's how it

00:55:28.659 --> 00:55:30.099
goes. Yeah, so there you go. Look, I've just

00:55:30.099 --> 00:55:32.940
asked ChatGPT because there is use for AI in

00:55:32.940 --> 00:55:35.840
this sort of stuff. H .G. Wells novel. Arrival

00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:38.840
method, cylindrical Martian cylinders fired from

00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:41.119
Mars like artillery shells. Of course it bloody

00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.780
is. That's it, yes. They crash into Earth, burying

00:55:43.780 --> 00:55:46.139
themselves deep. Each cylinder opens after cooling

00:55:46.139 --> 00:55:47.940
and the Martians build the tripods on Earth from

00:55:47.940 --> 00:55:50.440
machinery they've brought along. absolute makes

00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:52.519
total sense and you could have like i said done

00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.940
that in this lightning strikes two weeks ago

00:55:54.940 --> 00:55:58.179
no one knows what's going on there's been weird

00:55:58.179 --> 00:56:03.500
subterranean sound tremors that's been found

00:56:03.500 --> 00:56:05.360
but no one's able to get deep enough because

00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:08.059
it's too hot and then boom the tripods are out

00:56:08.059 --> 00:56:12.340
erupt the 1953 film arrivals meteors that's where

00:56:12.340 --> 00:56:16.039
i got the meteorites from 2005, they were already

00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:18.300
buried underground on Earth for thousands, maybe

00:56:18.300 --> 00:56:21.719
millions of years. Just doesn't make sense. BBC

00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:24.820
TV adaptation from 2019, largely faithful to

00:56:24.820 --> 00:56:26.920
Wells' novel. Which is good. That's a good one.

00:56:27.839 --> 00:56:30.239
Musical, Cylinders from Mars, Crash Thin Tripods,

00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:33.900
Bill. Asylums, War of the Worlds, cheap DVD tie

00:56:33.900 --> 00:56:36.579
-in. ChatGPT's not putting its punches there.

00:56:36.820 --> 00:56:39.659
They arrive in meteorites. Don't tell us the

00:56:39.659 --> 00:56:42.460
Amazon one. That's got to be a surprise. It's

00:56:42.460 --> 00:56:45.320
not on there. Even ChatGPT's not watched it.

00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:47.780
It's got one on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm not even

00:56:47.780 --> 00:56:50.380
getting the data for that. Yeah, I'm not trolling

00:56:50.380 --> 00:56:51.760
that. You want me to watch that? I'm not even

00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.340
going to watch it on hyperspeed like I watch

00:56:53.340 --> 00:56:55.800
anything. But the other thing that is never really

00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:58.769
explained. If they've been buried here for so

00:56:58.769 --> 00:57:02.369
long, why are they coming up now? And what is

00:57:02.369 --> 00:57:04.949
their plan? Because if they were built there

00:57:04.949 --> 00:57:08.550
thousands or millions of years ago, there was

00:57:08.550 --> 00:57:11.349
no mankind, nothing there. So if they were there

00:57:11.349 --> 00:57:13.769
just to get resources, why didn't they come earlier?

00:57:14.409 --> 00:57:17.230
Why have they waited till man? Maybe they're

00:57:17.230 --> 00:57:18.969
waiting for atmospheric conditions. I don't know.

00:57:19.170 --> 00:57:21.309
But now they've come out. What's their plan?

00:57:21.389 --> 00:57:22.949
Are they just going to turn Earth into another

00:57:22.949 --> 00:57:25.239
Mars? I think they're terraforming. I think that's

00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:26.820
what the red weed is. They're terraforming. Because

00:57:26.820 --> 00:57:29.719
they're feeding the red weed by spreading human

00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.380
mush. Well, that's it. But I presumed that was.

00:57:33.780 --> 00:57:36.539
So the stupid, and I will call it stupid, the

00:57:36.539 --> 00:57:39.559
stupid human containers on the ships with the

00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:42.500
long, licky tongue tongue. Yeah, the cock coming

00:57:42.500 --> 00:57:44.380
out of the vagina. That's disgusting. What the

00:57:44.380 --> 00:57:48.639
fuck? Awful, awful addition to the film. I just

00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:50.559
presume that that was feeding the ship and that's

00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:52.619
how they're powering the tripods. They're eating

00:57:52.619 --> 00:57:54.420
humans and that's generating and what's being

00:57:54.420 --> 00:57:57.679
fired out is basically fertilizer. What was that?

00:57:58.059 --> 00:58:02.320
The dog, I think. Yeah, I was never really sure

00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:04.280
because there's a shot where they open up one

00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:06.119
of the pods when the alien comes out dead and

00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:10.260
all the goo comes out of the bit he's in. Are

00:58:10.260 --> 00:58:13.880
they emerged in it? Okay, so in the Jeff Wayne's

00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:17.929
one, the aliens are eating the people. Yes. And

00:58:17.929 --> 00:58:20.610
I think that's the idea of the HG Wells one.

00:58:20.670 --> 00:58:23.510
Yeah. And this one, it implies they're being

00:58:23.510 --> 00:58:25.989
blended up and spread to feed the red wheat.

00:58:26.610 --> 00:58:29.210
Right. So again, trying to turn it into a new

00:58:29.210 --> 00:58:33.909
red planet. But why? I think it might say their

00:58:33.909 --> 00:58:36.250
planet's dying. But they're meant to have come

00:58:36.250 --> 00:58:39.889
from Mars. Yeah, Mars is dying. Yeah, but...

00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:42.179
Again, it doesn't make sense because even at

00:58:42.179 --> 00:58:44.760
that point, we'd put rovers on Mars so the world

00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:46.940
knows that there's no red weed there and stuff.

00:58:47.019 --> 00:58:48.579
And I know we're talking about real life versus

00:58:48.579 --> 00:58:52.139
film, but there is nothing that's mentioned about

00:58:52.139 --> 00:58:55.840
that. Again, you could have even had in that

00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:57.880
news article two weeks ago, lightning strikes,

00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:01.079
don't know what's going on. In other news, weird

00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:05.300
signals from Mars, Mars quakes, stuff like that.

00:59:05.539 --> 00:59:08.440
Is Mars about to implode? Anything like that

00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:10.769
would have been good. And then you could have

00:59:10.769 --> 00:59:12.710
said, yes, well, actually, they built these things

00:59:12.710 --> 00:59:14.889
underground as an emergency thing if they needed

00:59:14.889 --> 00:59:16.610
to terraform another planet. And they did it

00:59:16.610 --> 00:59:18.889
on all the planets in the solar system. And it

00:59:18.889 --> 00:59:21.150
just so happens that they've seen Earth and the

00:59:21.150 --> 00:59:23.429
way that it's been terraformed now and how it

00:59:23.429 --> 00:59:25.070
is. They're like, actually, that's a perfect

00:59:25.070 --> 00:59:28.929
place to go. Yeah. So this is their Krypton.

00:59:29.389 --> 00:59:31.849
Yeah. Krypton to Earth for the War of the Worlds

00:59:31.849 --> 00:59:35.360
aliens. Yeah. I know these are pretty big plot

00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:36.840
holes we're talking about. It doesn't detract

00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.019
from the fact it's an enjoyable film. And it

00:59:39.019 --> 00:59:42.340
feels massive. Like the ferry scene is horrible.

00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:45.960
Yeah. But I would say the visuals of this film,

00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.820
99 % of them I think are actually very good.

00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:53.110
It's dated. It's dated. But they get away with

00:59:53.110 --> 00:59:54.769
a lot of it because a lot of it's in the dark.

00:59:54.929 --> 00:59:56.809
Yes. And that's how they got away with it in

00:59:56.809 --> 00:59:59.610
things like Jurassic Park. You put the things

00:59:59.610 --> 01:00:01.969
in the dark, it's easier for all the composition.

01:00:02.409 --> 01:00:04.909
Yes. And it just hides it all better, but then

01:00:04.909 --> 01:00:08.800
it also makes it a little bit unseen. Yeah. It

01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:10.460
all makes it a little bit unseen, but there's

01:00:10.460 --> 01:00:12.619
some great shots. Like when the first one is

01:00:12.619 --> 01:00:14.500
coming to the ground and it's, the ground is

01:00:14.500 --> 01:00:17.300
aspiring, like the ground is unscrewing. So the

01:00:17.300 --> 01:00:19.199
front of the church comes off and starts moving

01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:21.880
around. That's really good. There's a, the plane

01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:24.559
crash scene. The plane crash scene. Yeah. The,

01:00:24.659 --> 01:00:27.480
the, the cinematography is like her at the, at

01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:29.840
the, the river with the dead bodies going past.

01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:33.780
Yeah. The bit where she, just before she gets

01:00:33.780 --> 01:00:35.719
grabbed and she stood there and her silhouette

01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:38.280
at the top of the hill. with the tripod coming

01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:40.559
together and then comes down and looks towards

01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:43.639
the camera. You know, there's some really good...

01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:46.199
Where's another one I've got down? Yeah, where

01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.900
he steps out of the basement to look over the

01:00:49.900 --> 01:00:52.639
whole land covered in the red weed with a tripod

01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.059
going around spraying. There's some really good

01:00:55.059 --> 01:00:57.789
shots. There is. And yeah, like you say, it makes

01:00:57.789 --> 01:00:59.929
it feel massive. It makes it feel like they're

01:00:59.929 --> 01:01:01.849
doing this to the world. They're not just going

01:01:01.849 --> 01:01:03.929
after Tom Cruise. They're doing it to everybody.

01:01:03.929 --> 01:01:05.510
They actually bring that up as well. They say,

01:01:05.650 --> 01:01:09.070
oh, I hear it's happened in Asia, US, south of

01:01:09.070 --> 01:01:11.289
the border in South America. I hear Europe's

01:01:11.289 --> 01:01:13.409
had nothing at all. They're safe. And then someone

01:01:13.409 --> 01:01:15.250
else says, no, Europe's been destroyed. It's

01:01:15.250 --> 01:01:17.409
completely gone. Yeah, yeah. Then no one knows.

01:01:17.449 --> 01:01:19.269
So the fact that you've got that no one knows

01:01:19.269 --> 01:01:21.170
because the whole communications have been dropped.

01:01:21.210 --> 01:01:25.090
Brilliant. It just adds to the dread. And yeah.

01:01:25.829 --> 01:01:29.829
let's get to the scene that we nonce watched

01:01:29.829 --> 01:01:33.269
earlier yeah it's a weird scene and it goes on

01:01:33.269 --> 01:01:36.230
for so long it's like almost is it almost quarter

01:01:36.230 --> 01:01:38.269
of the film almost isn't it it's a low point

01:01:38.269 --> 01:01:41.630
for me that because I've always thought it was

01:01:41.630 --> 01:01:44.469
too noncey I didn't like it it just goes on for

01:01:44.469 --> 01:01:47.010
too long as well it just feels like we're stuck

01:01:47.010 --> 01:01:49.449
I know it's meant to give you this sense of dread

01:01:49.449 --> 01:01:52.489
and then it gets even worse by what your brain

01:01:52.489 --> 01:01:55.510
starts thinking is he just talking about killing

01:01:55.510 --> 01:01:59.289
everyone and just ending their life or is he

01:01:59.289 --> 01:02:02.269
talking about you know what and oh my god that's

01:02:02.269 --> 01:02:04.630
just gross and what the hell i just want them

01:02:04.630 --> 01:02:07.210
to take out the scene where he sat on the steps

01:02:07.210 --> 01:02:09.630
with the girl saying that he'll look after if

01:02:09.630 --> 01:02:12.130
something happens to daddy it's that scene that

01:02:12.130 --> 01:02:15.630
completely changes your perspective of him yes

01:02:15.630 --> 01:02:17.369
because before you just think he's just a gross

01:02:17.369 --> 01:02:21.550
old dude who's has a weird glance at the kid

01:02:21.550 --> 01:02:23.550
but it could just be a weird glance at the kid

01:02:23.550 --> 01:02:26.139
and that's it And you could see it as that. But

01:02:26.139 --> 01:02:28.619
because of that scene of him on the step, for

01:02:28.619 --> 01:02:32.039
me, I've always thought it, I thought he was

01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:35.000
a pedo. Yeah, 100%. Just completely, that's what

01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:36.599
I thought. And you can't tell me that that's

01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:38.480
not what they planned. And I think that is exactly

01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:40.079
what they planned. And then they don't touch

01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:42.639
on it ever again, which I'm glad about. They

01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:45.500
never actually mention about it ever again, and

01:02:45.500 --> 01:02:47.619
I'm glad. And that is literally the only bit

01:02:47.619 --> 01:02:49.940
of the entire film I don't like. I know we've

01:02:49.940 --> 01:02:51.360
kind of said all these other bits and the plot

01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:52.760
and stuff, but I don't care about any of that

01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:54.949
because I think the actual... whole thing if

01:02:54.949 --> 01:02:56.369
you just take it for what it is i think it's

01:02:56.369 --> 01:02:59.829
a really fun action film there are some you know

01:02:59.829 --> 01:03:02.210
suspenseful moments with the with the spaceship

01:03:02.210 --> 01:03:05.989
cock going around inside that basement trying

01:03:05.989 --> 01:03:09.010
to find them you know there's some really good

01:03:09.010 --> 01:03:13.929
bits interesting the aliens are not at all like

01:03:13.929 --> 01:03:17.010
how they're described in anything else they're

01:03:17.010 --> 01:03:19.840
meant to just be heads basically Basically, yeah,

01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:22.239
but I like the fact that they're kind of tripods

01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:23.639
themselves. But the three legs, it made sense

01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:26.280
because of their anatomy that they have vehicles

01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:30.599
based on their anatomy. But then you could also

01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:34.559
argue it's a little bit hard to believe that

01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:36.199
they've managed to build all of this amazing

01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:40.159
technology looking at what they have. It's the

01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:42.300
argument we said about in the last episode or

01:03:42.300 --> 01:03:45.320
the episode before that where we say... You've

01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.519
got these creatures and they're designed in such

01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:49.679
a way that they probably couldn't even hold a

01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.340
screwdriver properly. So how have they built

01:03:52.340 --> 01:03:58.099
interstellar? It's hard to believe. So yeah,

01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:02.019
it's a difficult one, isn't it? I like the design

01:04:02.019 --> 01:04:05.679
of them. Is it practical for what they are? Not

01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:10.010
necessarily. So we kind of got that. Now, I'm

01:04:10.010 --> 01:04:12.590
just digging up a couple of photos here, so you're

01:04:12.590 --> 01:04:15.989
going to have to give me a moment. The thing

01:04:15.989 --> 01:04:20.190
that I was saying about earlier, about back in

01:04:20.190 --> 01:04:24.650
2005 when I first saw this and just immediately

01:04:24.650 --> 01:04:28.670
said, right, well, that's exactly where Steven

01:04:28.670 --> 01:04:32.929
Spielberg has got this design from. Any ideas

01:04:32.929 --> 01:04:35.369
what I might be talking about? Well, it looks

01:04:35.369 --> 01:04:39.170
a lot like... The head of them kind of looks

01:04:39.170 --> 01:04:41.670
a lot like the Will Smith film, Independence

01:04:41.670 --> 01:04:45.190
Day. Oh, what, you mean that alien there? Yeah,

01:04:45.250 --> 01:04:47.590
they look very similar. So, yeah, if you think

01:04:47.590 --> 01:04:49.829
Independence Day, and we're not talking about

01:04:49.829 --> 01:04:52.690
the armour suit that they're wearing, we're talking

01:04:52.690 --> 01:04:54.949
about the little alien that's controlling the

01:04:54.949 --> 01:04:58.250
armour suit, there is way too many similarities

01:04:58.250 --> 01:05:00.590
between... What year was Independence Day? I'm

01:05:00.590 --> 01:05:03.329
going to say 97 or 98. Let me just double check

01:05:03.329 --> 01:05:04.369
that. That's why we have IMDB installed. It should

01:05:04.369 --> 01:05:06.710
very well be the same company that did the...

01:05:06.710 --> 01:05:09.849
96, crikey. It could be the same company that

01:05:09.849 --> 01:05:14.050
did the animation and stuff, the models. Possibly,

01:05:14.130 --> 01:05:17.289
absolutely. You never know. Same designer. I

01:05:17.289 --> 01:05:22.469
just felt it was a bit close to the design. It

01:05:22.469 --> 01:05:24.849
didn't feel very original, except for the tripod

01:05:24.849 --> 01:05:26.469
side of it where they're walking on the three

01:05:26.469 --> 01:05:30.670
legs. The alien itself felt very, very similar

01:05:30.670 --> 01:05:31.530
to the one from Independence Day. You know, it'd

01:05:31.530 --> 01:05:35.010
be funny if War of the Worlds was like the prequel

01:05:35.010 --> 01:05:39.190
to Independence Day. So, like, they do this invasion

01:05:39.190 --> 01:05:42.710
first, and then we kind of just recover from

01:05:42.710 --> 01:05:44.550
it, and then they're like... Oh, we didn't make

01:05:44.550 --> 01:05:47.409
it. Or like they were supposed to be the landing

01:05:47.409 --> 01:05:50.230
party before the spaceships arrive. And now the

01:05:50.230 --> 01:05:51.889
spaceship arrives because they've lost communication.

01:05:52.309 --> 01:05:55.769
I'm going to blow your mind. What stopped the

01:05:55.769 --> 01:06:00.150
aliens in Independence Day? A virus. It was a

01:06:00.150 --> 01:06:03.929
virus. Yeah. Links upon links upon links. Yeah,

01:06:03.949 --> 01:06:08.099
it could be. Yeah, or you do Independence Day

01:06:08.099 --> 01:06:10.500
first and they dropped the pods underground and

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then the other guys are coming after us to get

01:06:13.420 --> 01:06:15.019
their own back. It's funny, isn't it? I mean,

01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.440
it's a good film. Very enjoyable. Very full of

01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:23.239
dread. Not great for character development, gotta

01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:26.380
say. The characters are pretty unlikable. But

01:06:26.380 --> 01:06:29.440
it works for the film, so you can kind of let

01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:33.400
it off a little bit for that. But otherwise...

01:06:33.789 --> 01:06:35.590
It's a lot better than I thought it would be.

01:06:35.710 --> 01:06:38.309
And I've got a feeling it's probably going to

01:06:38.309 --> 01:06:40.949
be a lot better than you're about to say what

01:06:40.949 --> 01:06:43.269
we're watching next. And you'll find out in a

01:06:43.269 --> 01:06:53.409
moment. Woo! Transfer complete. So, I'm sorry

01:06:53.409 --> 01:06:57.510
to tell you all this because of developments

01:06:57.510 --> 01:07:01.250
on the release schedule of Amazon, which I didn't

01:07:01.250 --> 01:07:02.989
know about. Thanks, Amazon. Apparently this film

01:07:02.989 --> 01:07:06.019
that... was meant to come out during COVID. Like

01:07:06.019 --> 01:07:07.820
it was very filmed in COVID and then they just

01:07:07.820 --> 01:07:11.179
held it back for ages and ages. I didn't know

01:07:11.179 --> 01:07:14.380
that because I watched a short with Linus from

01:07:14.380 --> 01:07:17.679
Linus Tech Tips. He was meant to be in it. He

01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:19.659
filmed his part and then they cut him out, but

01:07:19.659 --> 01:07:21.739
he's still in the credits. And he was saying,

01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:23.659
you know, this was like filmed during COVID,

01:07:23.780 --> 01:07:26.500
which might be why it's filmed in the way that

01:07:26.500 --> 01:07:32.900
it is. So it's Amazon's own version. of War of

01:07:32.900 --> 01:07:37.820
the Worlds 2025. It's supposedly fucking dreadful.

01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:41.659
It's supposedly meant to be based on War of the

01:07:41.659 --> 01:07:46.719
Worlds, but it's more an... Oh, what do they

01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:48.539
call it? It's called War of the Worlds. No, no,

01:07:48.539 --> 01:07:50.300
it's meant to be War of the Worlds, but it's

01:07:50.300 --> 01:07:53.719
being done through social media. Oh, it sounds

01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:58.360
like the worst hour and a half of my life. God,

01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:02.110
how long is it? Too long, probably. Oh, no. Let's

01:08:02.110 --> 01:08:06.170
face it, Cloverfield enjoys a film, yeah? Yeah,

01:08:06.210 --> 01:08:08.269
Cloverfield's a good film. But it's shaky cam,

01:08:08.449 --> 01:08:12.429
and I don't like shaky cam. This feels like it's

01:08:12.429 --> 01:08:16.869
going to be shaky cam plus with webcam and social

01:08:16.869 --> 01:08:20.829
media crap instead. It sounds awful. It's 91

01:08:20.829 --> 01:08:22.770
minutes, thank God for that, and one hour, 31

01:08:22.770 --> 01:08:26.789
minutes. Jesus. And it features Ice Cube. Apparently

01:08:26.789 --> 01:08:31.579
it's a screen life thriller. Yeah. So you're

01:08:31.579 --> 01:08:37.699
meant to be getting the story through social

01:08:37.699 --> 01:08:41.380
media and kind of reporting, and it's meant to

01:08:41.380 --> 01:08:43.100
be happening live to Ice Cube, and he's kind

01:08:43.100 --> 01:08:44.840
of meant to be reporting it back to people as

01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:46.859
to what's going on. Yeah, I'm going to hate it.

01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:51.899
I'm going to go into it with an open mind, but...

01:08:52.390 --> 01:08:55.029
The social media part of it sounds like... I

01:08:55.029 --> 01:08:56.770
mean, there was a horror movie that I did actually

01:08:56.770 --> 01:08:59.029
quite like, which was a guy basically in front

01:08:59.029 --> 01:09:01.109
of his computer the whole time trying to find

01:09:01.109 --> 01:09:03.729
his daughter. Like he had access to her social

01:09:03.729 --> 01:09:06.069
media accounts and stuff. Was that webcam or

01:09:06.069 --> 01:09:07.630
something? I can't remember. That was actually

01:09:07.630 --> 01:09:12.289
quite good. It had the... I think it had the

01:09:12.289 --> 01:09:15.949
guy who's in Harold and Kumar. Oh, okay. That

01:09:15.949 --> 01:09:18.829
was all right. But this one looks fucking dreadful.

01:09:18.989 --> 01:09:22.710
It does look bad. It really looks dreadful. Social

01:09:22.710 --> 01:09:24.409
commentary, there you go. It's meant to be a

01:09:24.409 --> 01:09:25.949
social commentary film. The only reason we're

01:09:25.949 --> 01:09:27.270
doing it is because we're doing World of Warcraft

01:09:27.270 --> 01:09:31.869
stuff and it just happened to be so... It's just

01:09:31.869 --> 01:09:33.689
such a coincidence that that's come out while

01:09:33.689 --> 01:09:35.270
we're doing this. So it was meant to be a double

01:09:35.270 --> 01:09:37.850
bill. It's now a trilogy. And we may even make

01:09:37.850 --> 01:09:41.909
it a saga because the 2005... Do you know who

01:09:41.909 --> 01:09:45.210
the Asylum are? No. The Asylum are people that

01:09:45.210 --> 01:09:48.729
make those DVD films. So Disney released The

01:09:48.729 --> 01:09:51.270
Little Mermaid. They released... The Little Fish

01:09:51.270 --> 01:09:55.989
Girl. Okay. And they released, in 2005, their

01:09:55.989 --> 01:09:59.210
version of The War of the Worlds. I want to come

01:09:59.210 --> 01:10:00.930
away from The War of the Worlds after the next

01:10:00.930 --> 01:10:03.409
one. Maybe we could watch that on top of this.

01:10:03.630 --> 01:10:05.250
I'll tell you what I would like to watch at some

01:10:05.250 --> 01:10:08.470
point is the modern version of The Blob. Well,

01:10:08.550 --> 01:10:11.449
when we get past this one, we'll workshop what

01:10:11.449 --> 01:10:12.909
we're doing. We need to have one that we're going

01:10:12.909 --> 01:10:14.689
to enjoy. As I was just going to say, because

01:10:14.689 --> 01:10:16.989
the 80s or 90s, whatever it was, version of The

01:10:16.989 --> 01:10:19.369
Blob, I've seen reviews and basically people

01:10:19.369 --> 01:10:23.039
have said, This is the equivalent of The Thing,

01:10:23.220 --> 01:10:26.840
but set in... Okay, that sounds great. Whereas

01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:29.659
within, I'm talking about kind of the effects

01:10:29.659 --> 01:10:32.680
and the deaths. Speaking of The Thing, I think

01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.619
there's a game coming out by John Carpenter.

01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:37.500
There is. I haven't watched Treader, though.

01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:39.659
Maybe we can watch that after this, because I've...

01:10:39.659 --> 01:10:43.060
Sounds good. So does that. No one else heard

01:10:43.060 --> 01:10:50.899
that. Meaty. Command functions are offline. Thank

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Show, and basically I think it's like... The

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Don't you mean Ross and Simon? Ross and Simon.

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We also have the brand new chap, James, with

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Super A to Z. It's a very good show. Do highly

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recommend. You'll check it out. He is going alphabetically

01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.529
through SNES games. And I think there's going

01:11:58.529 --> 01:12:00.069
to be some moments in there he's really going

01:12:00.069 --> 01:12:04.189
to hate. Oh, 100%. There's going to be some great

01:12:04.189 --> 01:12:05.829
ones, but I think he's also going to have a few

01:12:05.829 --> 01:12:07.350
where he's going to go, I do not want to play

01:12:07.350 --> 01:12:11.529
this. But yeah, they're really good. Check him

01:12:11.529 --> 01:12:13.369
out. You can find him on socials. It's the same

01:12:13.369 --> 01:12:16.850
James that's actually got the guest intro right

01:12:16.850 --> 01:12:21.569
a few times. Yes. That's it. Thank you very much.

01:12:21.789 --> 01:12:25.289
Thank you. We'll see you next time for Ice Cubes.

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and Amazon Prime's War of the Worlds. God help

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