WEBVTT 00:00:00.940 --> 00:00:05.580 There's something in those trees. I'm not a fool, 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:10.320 Blizzcon. Call me Snake. Anyway, you breathe 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:11.880 liquid so you can't get compressed. The pressure 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:13.759 doesn't get you. You mean you got liquid in your 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:17.859 lungs? How many assholes we got on this ship, 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:22.420 anyhow? Yo! You knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes. 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:27.260 The only true wisdom consists in knowing that 00:00:27.260 --> 00:00:35.310 you know nothing. Excuse me. I have to go. Somewhere 00:00:35.310 --> 00:00:39.490 there is a crime happening. Hello and welcome 00:00:39.490 --> 00:00:42.530 to the Untitled Sci -Fi Show. Also now known 00:00:42.530 --> 00:00:46.670 as Sci -Fi United. Sci -Fi United. Sci -Fi United. 00:00:47.450 --> 00:00:50.090 How are you doing? Yeah, not bad, mate. Not bad. 00:00:50.149 --> 00:00:53.490 How are you? Tired today, but I'm alright. I 00:00:53.490 --> 00:00:56.200 think we're all feeling that. Partly it's the 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:58.539 heat for me, but also kind of just taking on 00:00:58.539 --> 00:01:00.700 the household roles here while Gem's healing 00:01:00.700 --> 00:01:03.240 from her surgery that they don't need to know 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.340 about, but she had surgery, so I'm kind of trying 00:01:05.340 --> 00:01:07.620 to take hold of the household and kid care and 00:01:07.620 --> 00:01:09.599 everything like that. Mummy and daddy at the 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:12.560 moment, are you? Yeah. Oh, how cute. Well, I've 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:17.540 got the tits for it, so it's fine. Do you mean 00:01:17.540 --> 00:01:20.959 it's literally the same diploma, like in a time 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:23.019 travel way? Timey -wimey. Timey -wimey? Yep. 00:01:23.180 --> 00:01:28.950 Am I six? It's fascinating. So, last episode's 00:01:28.950 --> 00:01:35.849 Guess the Intro was all video games. It was, 00:01:35.950 --> 00:01:38.349 and I really struggled. There's only one in there 00:01:38.349 --> 00:01:41.049 that I'm pretty sure I got. Okay. Well, we have 00:01:41.049 --> 00:01:45.510 a winner. Okay. And that winner got the answer 00:01:45.510 --> 00:01:49.569 sent to me on direct message to me at like seven 00:01:49.569 --> 00:01:52.730 in the morning on the Monday. Okay. And that 00:01:52.730 --> 00:01:55.430 is Matt. Of course. From A Pint of Cthulhu. So 00:01:55.430 --> 00:01:58.650 well done, Matt. He always listens like first 00:01:58.650 --> 00:02:01.269 thing on a Monday while he's, I guess, he's doing 00:02:01.269 --> 00:02:03.310 something at the... Yeah, I think he's, unless 00:02:03.310 --> 00:02:07.010 we end up with listeners in the US, I think Matt's 00:02:07.010 --> 00:02:08.750 probably one of the first people that listen 00:02:08.750 --> 00:02:12.090 to a show on release. Yeah, he's quite consistent. 00:02:12.169 --> 00:02:14.490 So thank you, Matt, for the support. And well 00:02:14.490 --> 00:02:18.330 done for being the winner this week. So that's, 00:02:18.330 --> 00:02:21.909 you can find Matt on the wonderful podcast called 00:02:21.909 --> 00:02:26.889 A Pint of Cthulhu. It's like a tabletop RPG kind 00:02:26.889 --> 00:02:29.750 of podcast, and they do kind of D &D stuff. I'm 00:02:29.750 --> 00:02:30.969 not going to be able to explain it very well, 00:02:31.090 --> 00:02:34.530 but you can find him on At A Point Of Cthulhu. 00:02:34.889 --> 00:02:38.370 Cthulhu is spelled C -T -H -U -L -H -U, by the 00:02:38.370 --> 00:02:39.889 way, everyone. Yeah, a nice simple spelling. 00:02:40.009 --> 00:02:43.389 Yeah, and that's how I pronounce it. Someone 00:02:43.389 --> 00:02:45.389 might pronounce it a different way. It doesn't 00:02:45.389 --> 00:02:47.689 matter. I say Cthulhu. Anyway, At A Point Of 00:02:47.689 --> 00:02:49.830 Cthulhu on Twitter. Pretty sure they're on Blue 00:02:49.830 --> 00:02:53.449 Sky 2. It's probably the same handle. There's 00:02:53.449 --> 00:02:55.710 a few of them. They've been on here. They've 00:02:55.710 --> 00:02:58.090 done stuff with us before. We've even been on 00:02:58.090 --> 00:03:01.449 their show before. We have, yes. Friends of the 00:03:01.449 --> 00:03:03.810 podcast, we shall say. Anyway, so thank you, 00:03:03.810 --> 00:03:07.430 Matt. Well done. And you reckon you got one, 00:03:07.530 --> 00:03:10.569 potentially? I'm pretty sure I got one, yes. 00:03:11.930 --> 00:03:14.009 Well, let's unmute that first before I press 00:03:14.009 --> 00:03:16.270 play on here. That's a good idea. So here we 00:03:16.270 --> 00:03:19.110 go. Oh, actually, how loud is this going to be? 00:03:19.129 --> 00:03:24.289 Let's find out. I'm Andrew Ryan, and I'm here 00:03:24.289 --> 00:03:27.949 to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled 00:03:27.949 --> 00:03:32.349 to the sweat of his brow? Okay. So I've got no 00:03:32.349 --> 00:03:34.669 idea, but I'm going to say from the sound of 00:03:34.669 --> 00:03:39.909 it, from the general style Bioshock of some variety. 00:03:40.509 --> 00:03:43.710 Bioshock. Oh, shit. The very first one. I think 00:03:43.710 --> 00:03:47.210 it's the intro. It might be either when you're 00:03:47.210 --> 00:03:49.090 going down. You've played it right. When you're 00:03:49.090 --> 00:03:52.759 going down in the lift. Andrew Ryan's the guy 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:54.060 who invented it. Yeah, and he's explaining the 00:03:54.060 --> 00:03:56.900 world. Okay, fine. Yeah, so you're right. Yeah, 00:03:56.939 --> 00:03:58.919 well done. It's a really good game. Funny enough, 00:03:59.060 --> 00:04:02.120 I'm one of these people who skip cutscenes, so 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:04.300 that's what made this even harder for me. It's 00:04:04.300 --> 00:04:07.219 like, if I can skip a cutscene, I will. Yeah, 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:08.939 because I did manage to get dialogue from everything. 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:10.759 Because before I said, if I can't get dialogue, 00:04:10.819 --> 00:04:12.620 I'll do an iconic sound, but I got dialogue for 00:04:12.620 --> 00:04:14.800 everything. Right, okay. Is that the one that 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.939 you thought you got? No. Okay. If you don't get 00:04:17.939 --> 00:04:19.740 one of them, then I'm going to come over there 00:04:19.740 --> 00:04:21.699 and slap you. Oh, no, no, no. I'm pretty sure. 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:23.399 Slap the glasses off your face. You say that. 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.600 It's, again, difficult knowing. Is it number 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:30.920 one or number two? I thought it was pretty iconic 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.980 that it's number two. Right, okay. I will get 00:04:33.980 --> 00:04:36.339 there anyway for everyone else who isn't a mind 00:04:36.339 --> 00:04:39.180 reader. I know what you're thinking, and it's 00:04:39.180 --> 00:04:44.339 crazy. So, stay here. Okay, so that... Having 00:04:44.339 --> 00:04:49.639 heard it on the earphones now... Earphones. Headphones, 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:51.860 earphones. We'll talk about earphones in a minute. 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:54.899 Is that the original Halo? Is that Master Chief 00:04:54.899 --> 00:04:57.879 and... Yeah, it's Master Chief and Katana. I'll 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.199 accept Halo as an answer. I don't care what Halo. 00:05:00.339 --> 00:05:02.480 I don't even know what Halo it was from. Oh, 00:05:02.540 --> 00:05:03.920 you see, I've never played anything but Halo 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:06.560 1. It's probably a remastered version of Halo 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.060 1. Probably. So I had Halo 1 on the original 00:05:09.060 --> 00:05:12.459 Xbox, and the first time I completed that was 00:05:12.459 --> 00:05:15.240 in co -op with a friend of mine, and we used 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:18.139 to go around his house with it, plug it in, and 00:05:18.139 --> 00:05:20.920 then we'd spend the evening playing it. How funny. 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:25.399 So mine's the same, but I was on holiday with 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.149 a friend. And in the place that we were renting, 00:05:28.329 --> 00:05:30.930 they had an Xbox. I remember you saying about 00:05:30.930 --> 00:05:33.509 this. Neither of us had an Xbox. We'd never played 00:05:33.509 --> 00:05:35.550 on one before. It had the giant Duke controllers, 00:05:35.870 --> 00:05:38.870 two giant Duke controllers, and Halo. I loved 00:05:38.870 --> 00:05:40.230 the Duke controller. And we were like, what is 00:05:40.230 --> 00:05:42.769 this thing? We knew what an Xbox was, but we'd 00:05:42.769 --> 00:05:45.930 never seen one in real life before. We've done 00:05:45.930 --> 00:05:47.569 the story on the Verizon show. I think we may 00:05:47.569 --> 00:05:49.149 have done it on the Untitled Sci -Fi show. I 00:05:49.149 --> 00:05:51.470 worked a game in Watford. I was in charge of 00:05:51.470 --> 00:05:53.250 doing the pre -sales because nobody else wanted 00:05:53.250 --> 00:05:56.350 to. We sold the most pre -sales in the UK for 00:05:56.350 --> 00:05:59.600 Watford. We did the midnight opening. And at 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:02.300 the end of it, we sold the most consoles, games 00:06:02.300 --> 00:06:05.500 and hardware in the evening across all the game 00:06:05.500 --> 00:06:07.600 stores across the UK. And the boss said, right, 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:09.860 there's some left behind that he'd squirreled 00:06:09.860 --> 00:06:12.180 away. And we got super staff discounts and got 00:06:12.180 --> 00:06:14.699 them at a stupid price with extra controller, 00:06:14.779 --> 00:06:17.920 DVD remote. And I think I got the two games I 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:21.660 got with it was Halo and the Rally Sport game, 00:06:21.819 --> 00:06:24.160 which was this most amazing rally game. Just 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:28.300 take me back. That first moment where we played 00:06:28.300 --> 00:06:33.939 that on this ginormous machine, like, there's 00:06:33.939 --> 00:06:36.860 some feeling about that that I don't get now 00:06:36.860 --> 00:06:39.379 on new games. Oh, God, no. No, no, no, no. I 00:06:39.379 --> 00:06:41.500 think maybe it's just because I've played so 00:06:41.500 --> 00:06:43.100 many new games quite a lot. I think something 00:06:43.100 --> 00:06:45.420 like Games Pass gives you the opportunity to 00:06:45.420 --> 00:06:50.379 play so many new games. That magic of one new 00:06:50.379 --> 00:06:53.439 game every six months is gone. Excluding the 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:58.750 Xbox 360. I would genuinely say, for me, the 00:06:58.750 --> 00:07:01.430 magic of gaming stopped at the original Xbox, 00:07:01.930 --> 00:07:04.509 PlayStation 2, and GameCube. That generation 00:07:04.509 --> 00:07:09.569 of consoles there was the end for me. Everything 00:07:09.569 --> 00:07:12.829 past that, excluding the 360, because that had 00:07:12.829 --> 00:07:19.730 probably a far more... cooperative gameplay and 00:07:19.730 --> 00:07:22.750 group gaming, which I'd missed from the days 00:07:22.750 --> 00:07:25.689 of doing LAN parties with friends and PCs. So 00:07:25.689 --> 00:07:28.230 the 360 kind of developed on its own. But for 00:07:28.230 --> 00:07:32.009 the magic of gaming, original Xbox, GameCube, 00:07:32.009 --> 00:07:34.350 PS2, that was the end of it. Well, that's where 00:07:34.350 --> 00:07:36.870 we all bonded on the 360, really. It is, yeah. 00:07:37.069 --> 00:07:41.209 Battlefield. Yeah, but we completed it on that 00:07:41.209 --> 00:07:45.009 holiday. We completed Halo on that holiday. Like, 00:07:45.009 --> 00:07:47.509 we'd go out and spend the day or whatever and 00:07:47.509 --> 00:07:49.069 then we'd come home and then, like, you know, 00:07:49.110 --> 00:07:50.069 we could have gone to the pool and stuff. It 00:07:50.069 --> 00:07:51.670 was like, let's play Halo. And powered through 00:07:51.670 --> 00:07:54.329 it. Nice. So, yeah, that was Halo. So, well done. 00:07:54.649 --> 00:08:00.930 Next one. Shepard, you're dead. I got better. 00:08:02.069 --> 00:08:04.810 I like that. But I got better. Again, I've got 00:08:04.810 --> 00:08:08.170 no idea about this one. There's one... The clue's 00:08:08.170 --> 00:08:10.629 in the name. Yeah, the name Shepard rings a bell. 00:08:10.709 --> 00:08:13.069 Again, it's not a series I've played and I cannot 00:08:13.069 --> 00:08:15.709 think of the name of it. I'm trying to picture 00:08:15.709 --> 00:08:18.430 what the game cover was. I think the game cover's 00:08:18.430 --> 00:08:20.589 got a lot of blue in it. So there's actually 00:08:20.589 --> 00:08:25.089 four of them. Yeah. There's a trilogy and then 00:08:25.089 --> 00:08:27.870 an extra one. The fourth one, whilst I liked 00:08:27.870 --> 00:08:30.610 it, got kind of panned because it was very buggy 00:08:30.610 --> 00:08:32.629 and they never bothered fixing it. The fourth 00:08:32.629 --> 00:08:34.750 one was called Andromeda. Does that help you? 00:08:34.889 --> 00:08:36.789 No, because again, I've never played any of the 00:08:36.789 --> 00:08:38.450 series. Okay, so it's Mass Effect. Mass Effect. 00:08:38.809 --> 00:08:42.549 So I can just about picture the first cover or 00:08:42.549 --> 00:08:45.450 the cover for one of them. Yeah. And I couldn't 00:08:45.450 --> 00:08:47.970 picture the name. I knew the name Shepard weirdly, 00:08:47.990 --> 00:08:49.669 and I don't know why. I think that might have 00:08:49.669 --> 00:08:51.990 been previous times when I used to listen to 00:08:51.990 --> 00:08:55.169 very geeky podcasts about games before I kind 00:08:55.169 --> 00:08:57.850 of packed podcasting in listening to it for a 00:08:57.850 --> 00:09:00.210 while. But do you know who Miracle Sound is? 00:09:00.570 --> 00:09:03.799 No. He's a guy that makes... He makes some amazing 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:07.000 metal, by the way. I'll link you his metal album. 00:09:07.179 --> 00:09:11.279 Okay. But he also does songs based on games, 00:09:11.379 --> 00:09:13.580 and he's done a few Mass Effect ones, and there's 00:09:13.580 --> 00:09:16.519 one called something Shepard, whatever it is, 00:09:16.539 --> 00:09:18.559 Commander Shepard, and it's quite a well -known 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.779 one. Oh, okay, cool. Okay, yeah, that was Mass 00:09:21.779 --> 00:09:23.399 Effect. I don't know which one again. It doesn't 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:27.539 matter. The right man in the wrong place can 00:09:27.539 --> 00:09:32.519 make all the difference in the world. Okay. That's 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:35.559 Half -Life 2. We know it's Half -Life 2. I still 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:38.159 found it hard to determine between one or two. 00:09:38.220 --> 00:09:42.700 I'd gone with two being the more likely. But 00:09:42.700 --> 00:09:45.379 the G -Man's speeches in both of them are just 00:09:45.379 --> 00:09:48.460 iconic speeches. Yeah, this is the opening speech. 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.179 I thought if I gave anyone more than that, it'd 00:09:51.179 --> 00:09:53.240 be too easy. But I thought it's just anybody 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:56.259 that knows gaming culture at all will know who 00:09:56.259 --> 00:10:00.480 that is. What I've never known, is it a computerised 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:04.409 voice? No, I thought it was a real actor doing 00:10:04.409 --> 00:10:07.450 the voice. Because it's so weird. Well, while 00:10:07.450 --> 00:10:09.330 you're looking, let me have a quick look. Not 00:10:09.330 --> 00:10:12.789 only does it actually sound odd, just the inflections 00:10:12.789 --> 00:10:16.049 of where they speak and stop. It sounds like 00:10:16.049 --> 00:10:20.250 a really old text -to -speech kind of bot. Just 00:10:20.250 --> 00:10:24.110 very, very odd. Yeah, but I think that may have 00:10:24.110 --> 00:10:26.549 partly been the idea. No, that was by a man called 00:10:26.549 --> 00:10:32.419 Mike Shapiro. And he's played the G -Man in all 00:10:32.419 --> 00:10:33.940 of them. Isn't that like an American politician? 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:37.899 I've got no idea. He's got, oh, and that's Ben 00:10:37.899 --> 00:10:41.299 Shapiro. Okay, right. He's a voice in Dota 2. 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:46.159 Are you Ben Shapiro? Fuck off. He's been in Law 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:48.960 & Order Special Victims. He's in Horizon Forbidden 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:50.600 West. Was he a victim in Law & Order Special 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:53.740 Victims? He was the coroner in Organised Crime. 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.580 In Special Victims, he's a doctor, so it could 00:10:56.580 --> 00:10:58.759 be, or he could be the doctor that's fiddling 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:02.500 people. He was in Grand Theft Auto 5, Half -Life 00:11:02.500 --> 00:11:06.340 2, all the episodes of that. He's been in a lot. 00:11:07.259 --> 00:11:11.440 He was Barney in Half -Life Blue Shift. Oh, really? 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:13.299 Okay. So that means he must have been Barney 00:11:13.299 --> 00:11:15.059 in all of them, because it's the same guy. What's 00:11:15.059 --> 00:11:19.480 Half -Life Decay? Half -Life Decay. I have never 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:21.100 heard of Half -Life Decade. I don't think I've 00:11:21.100 --> 00:11:24.799 heard of that either. What a shame that they 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:28.960 haven't done a third one. Hang on. Right, so 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:33.059 you had Half -Life. Then you had Half -Life Opposing 00:11:33.059 --> 00:11:36.480 Force. Then you had a really big disappointment, 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:38.940 which was Half -Life Blue Shift, where you play 00:11:38.940 --> 00:11:42.639 Barney. I didn't mind that. It was just too short 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:45.600 compared to the other two and how good Opposing 00:11:45.600 --> 00:12:00.039 Force had been. But then... I don't know that 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:03.139 one. I've never heard of this. What was it on 00:12:03.139 --> 00:12:08.039 PC? Oh, this is the only Half -Life game exclusive 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:12.279 to a home console. I have no idea. Well, it must 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:14.379 have been an Xbox Live Arcade game. This is a 00:12:14.379 --> 00:12:18.860 game that I've never played. And I'm genuinely 00:12:18.860 --> 00:12:22.059 rude. I'm going to call it out as a live arcade 00:12:22.059 --> 00:12:25.899 game. Oh. Okay, this gets weirder and weirder. 00:12:26.539 --> 00:12:30.299 Half -Life Decay is a multiplayer -only expansion 00:12:30.299 --> 00:12:32.460 pack of Valve's first -person Half -Life shooter, 00:12:32.820 --> 00:12:36.860 Half -Life, published by Sierra Online, part 00:12:36.860 --> 00:12:39.240 of the PlayStation 2 version of Half -Life in 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:44.080 2001. It's the third expansion pack. Well, no, 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.690 it's not. Oh, it's a cooperative multiplayer 00:12:47.690 --> 00:12:50.990 game. Huh, interesting. Designed to be played 00:12:50.990 --> 00:12:53.129 by two people working together to pass through 00:12:53.129 --> 00:12:56.190 the game's levels. It was not a critical success, 00:12:56.529 --> 00:13:00.830 but was received with some positivity. You know 00:13:00.830 --> 00:13:03.309 what? We might have to dig that out for PlayStation 00:13:03.309 --> 00:13:08.110 2 and give this a try. Is that a very, very... 00:13:08.110 --> 00:13:11.269 Yeah, the game is unique in the context of Half 00:13:11.269 --> 00:13:15.019 -Life. In that it is the only game divided into 00:13:15.019 --> 00:13:17.860 separate missions. I wonder if this is where 00:13:17.860 --> 00:13:22.200 they got part of the idea from for Portal. You 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.779 say it was on PS2? It's PlayStation 2. Oh. EU 00:13:26.779 --> 00:13:32.600 released November 30th, 2001. I don't know if 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:34.620 it's part of the original PlayStation 2 disc. 00:13:34.820 --> 00:13:40.009 Did it get its own... It felt... So a number 00:13:40.009 --> 00:13:41.970 of reviews stated that the game simply felt like 00:13:41.970 --> 00:13:44.549 little more than an extra add -on for the PlayStation 00:13:44.549 --> 00:13:51.230 2 version of Half -Life. I'm going to look into 00:13:51.230 --> 00:13:54.470 this as I feel like that that's something we 00:13:54.470 --> 00:13:56.610 could have a bit of fun with. Oh yeah, I'm looking 00:13:56.610 --> 00:13:59.870 at a picture of it right now. And there's people 00:13:59.870 --> 00:14:02.250 posting that there's a PC version. Yeah, how 00:14:02.250 --> 00:14:05.269 do I play Half -Life Decay nine months ago? Oh. 00:14:05.929 --> 00:14:08.070 There's a mod. Okay, well, we'll have to have 00:14:08.070 --> 00:14:09.629 a play with that then and see about that because 00:14:09.629 --> 00:14:12.710 we like co -operative games. But anyway, let's 00:14:12.710 --> 00:14:14.169 get back to the quiz. Sorry, everyone. We went 00:14:14.169 --> 00:14:16.590 a little tangent there. We wouldn't be the tangent 00:14:16.590 --> 00:14:20.570 podcast without it. Okay, next one. He's fucked 00:14:20.570 --> 00:14:22.950 in the head. The world's fucked in the head. 00:14:23.070 --> 00:14:25.429 And you're fucked in the head because my fucked 00:14:25.429 --> 00:14:28.490 up head is inside it. Okay, well... That I've 00:14:28.490 --> 00:14:31.669 got no idea about. Well, it's a modern, modern 00:14:31.669 --> 00:14:35.210 game. It's cyberpunk. Oh, okay. And that is... 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:37.899 Is that Keanu Reeves? It's Keanu Reeves, yeah. 00:14:38.059 --> 00:14:40.620 Oh. Who plays a prominent character. Yeah, I've 00:14:40.620 --> 00:14:43.639 never played Cyberpunk. Fun fact, the people 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:47.259 that made Cyberpunk own good old games, GOG .com. 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:51.000 Oh, do they? They do, which is why GOG .com had 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:53.879 Cyberpunk for sale straight away. What are they 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:58.159 called? Red something, something, something, 00:14:58.279 --> 00:14:59.340 something, something, whatever they're fucking 00:14:59.340 --> 00:15:02.600 called. Because they make Witcher too, don't 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:05.659 they? CD Projekt Red. CD Projekt Red, that's 00:15:05.659 --> 00:15:08.220 the one. Yeah, I didn't realise it. It's literally 00:15:08.220 --> 00:15:11.340 something I... Yeah, part of the CD Projekt group. 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:17.919 Lovely stuff. Right, next one. We will send unto 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:25.679 them only you. Rip and tear. I thought you'd 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.480 get that. I purposely left that last little bit 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:33.230 in specifically for you. Is that... Did... Dead 00:15:33.230 --> 00:15:37.389 Space or... No. Go on then, what was it? Doom. 00:15:38.330 --> 00:15:42.169 Which one? The new ones. Oh, well, no. So, don't 00:15:42.169 --> 00:15:45.710 get me wrong, Doom 1 and 2 are my jam. I love 00:15:45.710 --> 00:15:49.789 those games. Doom 3, I didn't particularly like, 00:15:49.870 --> 00:15:52.970 but I have a far better understanding of it as 00:15:52.970 --> 00:15:55.570 a game now. I've grown up a little bit and just 00:15:55.570 --> 00:15:59.029 not gone with it. This isn't Doom 1 or 2, I don't 00:15:59.029 --> 00:16:04.159 like it. As... Many teenagers did. So I've gone 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:05.879 back and played it since and realised it's actually 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:09.139 a really good game, Doom 3. I've always liked 00:16:09.139 --> 00:16:14.620 Doom 3. Then we came to Doom 2016, I think the 00:16:14.620 --> 00:16:16.799 first new Doom was. That's the one this is from. 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:19.720 I think it is from this one. I thoroughly enjoyed 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:23.139 it. I found it a little bit too hard in some 00:16:23.139 --> 00:16:27.399 ways. Not a fan of learning patterns, for example, 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:31.139 as we've discussed before. Obviously the final 00:16:31.139 --> 00:16:33.659 boss to that is a real, you've just got to learn 00:16:33.659 --> 00:16:35.279 the pattern and then you can destroy them, but 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:37.100 it was a fairly simple pattern. I never got to 00:16:37.100 --> 00:16:40.179 the end. So I enjoyed the first one. Then we 00:16:40.179 --> 00:16:43.360 got Doom Eternal. Yeah, I don't know if I played 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:47.940 it. I tried it on Game Pass and what they've 00:16:47.940 --> 00:16:53.720 tried to make it is platforming and more melee 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:57.159 attacks than anything. In fact, no, sorry, that's 00:16:57.159 --> 00:17:00.570 not fair to say. They made it more platforming, 00:17:00.570 --> 00:17:02.730 more than anything. So it's still a first -person 00:17:02.730 --> 00:17:05.869 shooter, but there's a lot more puzzle and platforming 00:17:05.869 --> 00:17:09.269 going on in it. And I got maybe about a third 00:17:09.269 --> 00:17:10.950 of the way through and got bored of it. I was 00:17:10.950 --> 00:17:14.230 like, no, not enjoying this. And then we've now 00:17:14.230 --> 00:17:18.730 got Doom the Dark Ages coming out, and it's now 00:17:18.730 --> 00:17:22.450 all about melee weapons instead. And it's so 00:17:22.450 --> 00:17:26.150 far removed from what I grew up with as Doom. 00:17:27.509 --> 00:17:30.029 I don't like the look of it. There's a sword 00:17:30.029 --> 00:17:32.309 and a shield, right? Yeah, there's sword, there's 00:17:32.309 --> 00:17:34.369 shield, there's a chain fist, there's all sorts 00:17:34.369 --> 00:17:36.930 of things. And it's just like, I don't want that. 00:17:37.009 --> 00:17:39.769 I want my original Doom. That's why I like Doom 00:17:39.769 --> 00:17:43.190 2016 to the extent I did. It felt more like a 00:17:43.190 --> 00:17:45.970 modern Doom experience. You run, you gun, run, 00:17:46.069 --> 00:17:50.309 you gun, you run, you gun. Eternal, you had to 00:17:50.309 --> 00:17:51.950 think about things. And this looks like you've 00:17:51.950 --> 00:17:55.089 got to do way more thinking, way more. getting 00:17:55.089 --> 00:17:57.289 really into it and that's just not the style 00:17:57.289 --> 00:17:59.450 of gameplay i like it's not not the sort of gameplay 00:17:59.450 --> 00:18:01.529 person i am when it comes to first person shooters 00:18:01.529 --> 00:18:05.990 i like taking things out at a distance and maybe 00:18:05.990 --> 00:18:07.910 you could say playing it safely i don't know 00:18:07.910 --> 00:18:11.890 but that's the sort of style i am i don't want 00:18:11.890 --> 00:18:14.710 to be forced to go into it and the whole mechanic 00:18:14.710 --> 00:18:17.950 of you have to get health and stuff by finishing 00:18:17.950 --> 00:18:22.640 moves basically I got on with just about for 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:24.680 the original Doom because it wasn't too bad. 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.019 There were health stuff and it feels like this 00:18:27.019 --> 00:18:28.920 is going to be purely the only way you're going 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:30.799 to get through it is basically making sure you 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:35.019 get properly stuck in. Yeah. I mean, I liked 00:18:35.019 --> 00:18:37.980 the 2016 one. I think that's where this music's 00:18:37.980 --> 00:18:40.160 from. It could be from any of those three. I 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:41.559 mean, great soundtrack to the original, this 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:44.140 Doom. Oh, brilliant. They've been great for a 00:18:44.140 --> 00:18:46.920 while. But the thing about the Rip and Tear song 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:50.099 was it was... which is kind of why they got that 00:18:50.099 --> 00:18:52.819 Rip and Tear thing, I guess, from. It was the 00:18:52.819 --> 00:18:55.240 guy who composed all the music for that game, 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:58.000 he made the Rip and Tear one, which is the one 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:00.700 that everyone knows. He made that first, and 00:19:00.700 --> 00:19:03.339 they didn't like it. The developers didn't like 00:19:03.339 --> 00:19:05.440 it. So they said, go away and make some more. 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:07.180 So he went and made some more, and it got all 00:19:07.180 --> 00:19:08.759 the way to the end of development, and they were 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:10.859 like, we just need one more song. And he's like, 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:13.079 well, I've got this one. Just put this one in. 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:14.759 So they did, and it turned out that was the one 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:16.220 everyone loved. That's the one everyone loves. 00:19:16.380 --> 00:19:19.809 Yeah, how funny is that? But Doom is one of those 00:19:19.809 --> 00:19:24.150 interesting franchises that they could have done 00:19:24.150 --> 00:19:29.289 a lot more with it earlier on and didn't. We 00:19:29.289 --> 00:19:34.069 got a very cheesy, crappy film starring The Rock, 00:19:34.210 --> 00:19:37.089 which there's one or two good bits to it, but 00:19:37.089 --> 00:19:41.230 it's a bit of a travesty calling it Doom. The 00:19:41.230 --> 00:19:43.230 fact that they mainly based it on bloody Doom 00:19:43.230 --> 00:19:47.819 3 is the odd choice of things to do there. um 00:19:47.819 --> 00:19:51.859 but then we got quake out of doom because doom 00:19:51.859 --> 00:19:55.160 existed we got quake and i am a huge fan of the 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:58.900 original quake and quake 2 big big big fan and 00:19:58.900 --> 00:20:02.380 i spent many hours playing quake 3 on pc online 00:20:02.380 --> 00:20:06.220 and um quake 4 not so much actually i found that 00:20:06.220 --> 00:20:09.180 a bit of a slog but again it kind of got into 00:20:09.180 --> 00:20:11.740 that realm of doom 3 and it just they started 00:20:11.740 --> 00:20:14.480 doing too much with it rather than just having 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:18.559 as a Simple storyline, simple missions, just 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:20.960 get through them all. They tried to make it a 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:23.380 bit more than it was, and yeah, it fell a bit 00:20:23.380 --> 00:20:27.039 flat in my opinion. But that's it. You got nearly 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:29.339 all of them. Nearly all of them. Yeah, okay, 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:32.039 I didn't get two in the end. So no, I'm surprised 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:33.559 actually, because when I first listened to it, 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:35.480 I was listening to it in the car, and it's like, 00:20:35.579 --> 00:20:38.859 I know Half -Life, I don't know any of the others. 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:41.799 Yeah. But Matt got them. So well done, Matt. 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:44.519 Wonderful. Good job. And the one that everyone 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:47.720 heard at the start of this episode was an 80s 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:51.099 special. They're all films from the 80s. Winner, 00:20:51.099 --> 00:20:53.019 winner, chicken dinner. Good luck, everybody. 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:56.779 And that's 20 minutes of the show. Oh, my God. 00:20:57.019 --> 00:21:00.579 It's like... X -ray blankets. X -ray blankets. 00:21:01.019 --> 00:21:03.720 Radiation free. Right, let's put ourselves on 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:06.759 fast forward. Right, OK. What have you been up 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:09.319 to? Sci -fi wise, very little. Watched a film 00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:12.160 called K -Pax. Realised now that it's another 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:16.519 cancelled person. Oopsie. Oh, is it? Who's cancelled 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:19.759 in that then? It's Kevin Spacey. Oh. Yeah. Well, 00:21:19.779 --> 00:21:22.279 he's been super cancelled, hasn't he? Super cancelled, 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:24.460 bought back, cancelled. I don't know where we 00:21:24.460 --> 00:21:26.140 are with Kevin Spacey at the moment. I'm guessing 00:21:26.140 --> 00:21:28.220 still super cancelled. I think he's a mixture 00:21:28.220 --> 00:21:32.779 of cancelled and actually guilty before proven. 00:21:33.369 --> 00:21:35.509 Yeah, it's one of these horrible things. Incredible 00:21:35.509 --> 00:21:38.750 actor, but what he's potentially done is just 00:21:38.750 --> 00:21:42.549 totally unacceptable. I mean, sticking to the 00:21:42.549 --> 00:21:44.470 film for the moment, absolutely brilliant. He 00:21:44.470 --> 00:21:47.539 basically plays... An alien that's come to Earth 00:21:47.539 --> 00:21:51.920 and taken over a host body. He gets kind of arrested 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:54.099 and detained in a mental institution where no 00:21:54.099 --> 00:21:56.480 one believes him. And he slowly makes all the 00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:58.299 people in this institution believe that he's 00:21:58.299 --> 00:22:00.839 an alien and eventually takes one of them with 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:03.019 him when he leaves. And then finally, the bloke 00:22:03.019 --> 00:22:06.400 comes out of this kind of traumatic mental injury 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:10.180 and regains remembering who he is. And no one's 00:22:10.180 --> 00:22:12.859 really quite sure. Was he actually an alien that's 00:22:12.859 --> 00:22:14.440 just left this bloke? And that's why this bloke 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:15.880 can now remember what's happened, even though 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:19.539 this majorly traumatic thing happened. It's a 00:22:19.539 --> 00:22:21.380 very good film. But as I say, unfortunately, 00:22:21.619 --> 00:22:24.579 that's the unfortunate side of it. Obviously, 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:26.220 I've been watching a bit more Doctor Who, classic 00:22:26.220 --> 00:22:30.359 Doctor Who. with tom baker to powering through 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:32.059 some of the old dalek episodes because they're 00:22:32.059 --> 00:22:35.779 some of my favorites yep uh then up to the second 00:22:35.779 --> 00:22:38.920 season of doctor who or modern who with uh david 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:42.680 tenant really enjoying that again and discovered 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:46.200 that i am a hoarder of headphones and earphones 00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:49.819 i cannot i cannot help myself uh these are my 00:22:49.819 --> 00:22:53.089 new ones uh so i've got At the moment, I've got 00:22:53.089 --> 00:22:56.089 two pairs of AirPod Pros, one from when AirPod 00:22:56.089 --> 00:22:58.509 Pros were first released, and then I've got the 00:22:58.509 --> 00:23:00.670 second generation AirPod Pros, which I got when 00:23:00.670 --> 00:23:03.470 they were released. So they're both working fine, 00:23:03.589 --> 00:23:06.410 and I am somewhat addicted. And then I think 00:23:06.410 --> 00:23:08.730 this may be partly to do with the ADHD if I do 00:23:08.730 --> 00:23:12.569 get diagnosed with that. If I'm on my own, I've 00:23:12.569 --> 00:23:14.109 got to have something going on in my ears. I've 00:23:14.109 --> 00:23:16.839 got to be hearing. I can't. Just not. So I will 00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:19.339 come home from shopping to go and get my earphones 00:23:19.339 --> 00:23:21.400 to go back shopping if I've forgotten them. It's 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:24.440 that bad for me. I have to have something. Yeah, 00:23:24.460 --> 00:23:26.059 I think if I forget them, I'm annoyed at myself, 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:28.700 but I wouldn't go back. And I drove to work the 00:23:28.700 --> 00:23:30.880 other day. I'd forgotten my headphones. Went 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:32.599 into Tesco's and bought a really cheap pair of 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:35.819 JVC, just in -ear ones. And I was pleasantly 00:23:35.819 --> 00:23:38.400 surprised that actually for like the 20, I think 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:41.039 it was 15 pounds actually, club car price. how 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:42.240 good they were. And I thought, well, you know 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:44.140 what? Let's have a look at what else there is. 00:23:44.259 --> 00:23:47.859 So your data cost £5 that day. Yeah. These look... 00:23:47.859 --> 00:23:50.900 I like their box. These are so cool. So these 00:23:50.900 --> 00:23:53.160 are made by a company. I don't know really what 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:54.640 their company's called, but they are made by 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:57.380 a brand called Moondrop. I've never heard of 00:23:57.380 --> 00:24:01.039 them. And these are the ultrasonic moon ones, 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:02.839 I think. I think they're just called Moondrop 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:05.880 Ultrasonic. And they look really funky. They 00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:08.319 come in this plastic case. The case comes with 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:10.930 it. red bit that holds it with the battery you 00:24:10.930 --> 00:24:12.390 can actually just carry it around as it is and 00:24:12.390 --> 00:24:14.410 it'll hold them in with magnets but they give 00:24:14.410 --> 00:24:16.430 you this little red kind of case as well that's 00:24:16.430 --> 00:24:19.470 plastic i thought they look really funky i've 00:24:19.470 --> 00:24:22.029 got a bit of an amazon voucher left i'll get 00:24:22.029 --> 00:24:24.369 them they should have been 69 .99 i think i spent 00:24:24.369 --> 00:24:30.490 about 23 pounds on them holy shit and i think 00:24:30.490 --> 00:24:32.329 what people need to understand that unless you 00:24:32.329 --> 00:24:37.549 are some really big audiophile don't bother buying 00:24:37.549 --> 00:24:39.930 really expensive earphones anymore because I 00:24:39.930 --> 00:24:42.529 genuinely don't see them. I put those in. The 00:24:42.529 --> 00:24:45.589 ANC, so the noise cancelling, pretty decent. 00:24:45.930 --> 00:24:49.109 Not as good as the AirPods, obviously. They've 00:24:49.109 --> 00:24:50.630 had a lot more technology and a lot more time, 00:24:50.670 --> 00:24:54.430 a lot more money put into them. But the ANC is 00:24:54.430 --> 00:24:56.750 perfectly salvageable. Very, very good. It cuts 00:24:56.750 --> 00:25:00.990 out most of the noise. What blew me away... I 00:25:00.990 --> 00:25:03.990 genuinely, at this point, think they sounded 00:25:03.990 --> 00:25:06.789 better playing music than the current AirPod 00:25:06.789 --> 00:25:10.549 Generation 2s that I use. Really? They had much 00:25:10.549 --> 00:25:13.130 more clarity in voice, in sound. It felt like 00:25:13.130 --> 00:25:16.029 there was way more depth to the music. Honestly, 00:25:16.190 --> 00:25:20.150 genuinely blown away by them. The only reason 00:25:20.150 --> 00:25:21.809 I got these ones, by the way, is because they've 00:25:21.809 --> 00:25:24.109 got LDACs. They've got the couple of extra codecs 00:25:24.109 --> 00:25:28.150 for high -res lossless audio. Which is a waste 00:25:28.150 --> 00:25:30.710 of time with an iPhone. I own an iPhone. But 00:25:30.710 --> 00:25:32.809 I am looking at maybe moving to Android. And 00:25:32.809 --> 00:25:35.089 then most Android phones have got LDAC included 00:25:35.089 --> 00:25:38.789 now. So you'll get high -res wireless headphones 00:25:38.789 --> 00:25:41.390 connection. So you'll get music transferred to 00:25:41.390 --> 00:25:44.369 the earbuds at, I think, something like 192 kilobits 00:25:44.369 --> 00:25:46.990 a second rather than the much lower that AAC 00:25:46.990 --> 00:25:51.089 does. But even on AAC with the iPhone, wow, I 00:25:51.089 --> 00:25:53.650 was blown away by them. So obviously, it's not 00:25:53.650 --> 00:25:55.710 a sales thing. It's not an ad thing. Go and buy 00:25:55.710 --> 00:25:57.029 whatever you want. But what I'm just saying is... 00:25:57.029 --> 00:26:00.609 Feel free to sponsor us. The cost of all these 00:26:00.609 --> 00:26:05.410 beats by Dre and even Skullcandy now have done 00:26:05.410 --> 00:26:08.890 a £100 pair of earphones. And this is Skullcandy. 00:26:09.109 --> 00:26:11.609 Skullcandy, the company that's known for doing... 00:26:11.609 --> 00:26:15.529 Sorry, really deep bass noise. I've never thought 00:26:15.529 --> 00:26:17.730 Skullcandy was any good. They look like the shit 00:26:17.730 --> 00:26:19.150 ones they sell in -game. Well, can I just point 00:26:19.150 --> 00:26:21.599 out... The £100 one, the sound has been done 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:23.940 by Bose. Oh, is it? You might as well not put 00:26:23.940 --> 00:26:26.859 Skullcandy on it. It's sound by Bose instead. 00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:31.160 I am a very firm believer now that actually, 00:26:31.299 --> 00:26:33.440 unless you're that audiophile literally looking 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.700 for fidelity and the best range from low to highest 00:26:37.700 --> 00:26:39.740 frequencies, you know, that nice straight line 00:26:39.740 --> 00:26:43.900 they're all after, get yourself a middling kind 00:26:43.900 --> 00:26:48.119 of cost between £25 and £50. You will not be 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:50.720 disappointed. Those are the Moondrops. You got 00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:52.619 the Soundcore that I recommended you, and they 00:26:52.619 --> 00:26:54.220 were, what, 20 quid, weren't they? Yeah, they've 00:26:54.220 --> 00:26:55.720 been great. And they've just been good. They 00:26:55.720 --> 00:27:00.400 work. The microphone's fine on them. And as I 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:02.359 say, unless you're going to be a snob, don't 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:04.299 waste your money. And you can get some really 00:27:04.299 --> 00:27:06.740 cool -looking ones. The Moondrops look really 00:27:06.740 --> 00:27:08.460 good. I'm really pleased with those. It's a really 00:27:08.460 --> 00:27:11.059 funky box, I've got to say. But that's it. I 00:27:11.059 --> 00:27:12.920 haven't really played any games. I haven't watched 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:20.240 anything else. Over to you. Hello, robots! Ah, 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:23.940 so what have I been doing? Let me just sort my 00:27:23.940 --> 00:27:26.519 trousers out. Right, so I've been playing quite 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:33.339 a bit of games, actually. Ooh! So, I tried... 00:27:33.339 --> 00:27:36.460 Psychos Mark and I booked in a games night for 00:27:36.460 --> 00:27:40.500 the first time in literally probably two months. 00:27:40.579 --> 00:27:42.920 We haven't... played any games together so we're 00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:44.779 like he'd come around the other day and was like 00:27:44.779 --> 00:27:46.319 look let's book a game session and he was like 00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:50.180 okay great so on Tuesday like this is the day 00:27:50.180 --> 00:27:52.200 we're going to play and during lockdown we played 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:54.640 loads of Sea of Thieves and we got ourselves 00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.700 to level 100 which was how you got Pirate Lord 00:27:56.700 --> 00:27:59.900 and that was like the top of the top at the time 00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:02.240 when the game came out I really enjoyed Sea of 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.099 Thieves and I loved those couple of times I joined 00:28:04.099 --> 00:28:06.740 in on your games we even did that charity stream 00:28:06.740 --> 00:28:09.519 where we earned like £2 We still made money. 00:28:09.660 --> 00:28:14.039 We still got money. And, yeah, so we were pirate 00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.059 captains or pirate lords or whatever, which meant 00:28:16.059 --> 00:28:18.140 we could do anything in the game. And we were 00:28:18.140 --> 00:28:20.039 really quite proud of ourselves because it wasn't 00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:22.059 particularly easy to do, especially in the PvP 00:28:22.059 --> 00:28:25.759 games. Like, there were a few times. The thing 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:27.880 about, Mark, if you ever listen, you don't, but 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.440 you're a fucking nightmare to play games with. 00:28:30.779 --> 00:28:34.859 Because, like... I'm very reserved in games and 00:28:34.859 --> 00:28:37.400 I'm like, I'm not confrontational. I'll avoid 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:40.640 conflict. He is so fucking opposite. He is Leroy 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.859 Jenkins in every game I've ever played. Well, 00:28:43.900 --> 00:28:45.099 I used to play Guild Wars with him and it was 00:28:45.099 --> 00:28:48.019 a nightmare because he would play the tank, which 00:28:48.019 --> 00:28:49.759 is the worst thing that he should play because 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.200 he would pull everything and just go. Yeah, okay. 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.019 And we'll go back to the era of the Xbox 360, 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:59.319 Left 4 Dead 2. La, la, la, la, la. Is that a 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:01.480 witch? Is that a witch? Everyone quiet. Where's 00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:04.339 Mark? Woo, woo, woo, woo. Yeah, running up to 00:29:04.339 --> 00:29:09.039 it to melee it with his gun. Yeah, he just doesn't 00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:10.460 care about any of that. He just wants to kill, 00:29:10.579 --> 00:29:12.440 kill, kill. Well, yeah, and Sea of Thieves, if 00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.680 I remember right. Is that a ghost ship or is 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:17.220 that an opponent? Why is the boat turning? Why 00:29:17.220 --> 00:29:20.119 are we turning towards Mark? Yeah, or it'd be 00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:22.309 like, oh, yeah, what's that? But the cannon's 00:29:22.309 --> 00:29:24.710 already fired. We won't have seen it. He's already 00:29:24.710 --> 00:29:28.269 testing whether he's in range of whatever it 00:29:28.269 --> 00:29:30.829 was that's on the horizon. Maybe they want to 00:29:30.829 --> 00:29:33.650 be friends. No, no, Mark's gone for them. That's 00:29:33.650 --> 00:29:37.730 Mark, right? So that's Mark. So we thought, OK, 00:29:37.809 --> 00:29:39.630 what we'll do is we'll load up CFDs. Great, OK. 00:29:39.710 --> 00:29:42.589 Well, we both had to download it. And then Miranda 00:29:42.589 --> 00:29:44.529 hadn't told me she was working, so I couldn't 00:29:44.529 --> 00:29:46.210 go at the desk. So I took the laptop and was 00:29:46.210 --> 00:29:47.410 like, oh, let me just try and put the laptop 00:29:47.410 --> 00:29:50.839 on the big TV. I was just getting problems. I 00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:52.779 was like, oh, I'll download it on the Xbox so 00:29:52.779 --> 00:29:56.160 I can sit comfortably on the sofa. I don't know 00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.460 what's going on in my house without Xbox, but 00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:00.440 it wanted eight hours to download Sea of Thieves. 00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.359 It was... There's something odd there. There's 00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:08.119 something either wrong with my Xbox or something 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.740 on my network is capping. I might call HeyBrawlBrand 00:30:11.740 --> 00:30:14.420 up and ask them if they're capping my download, 00:30:14.660 --> 00:30:17.059 even though it says I'm getting... Because I 00:30:17.059 --> 00:30:20.119 checked my phone. It was like, I'm... On Wi -Fi 00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:23.680 connecting to what my Xbox is connected to. And 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.400 I'm getting, it was getting me 600 on my phone 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:31.359 Wi -Fi. Yeah. And then I did a Unify speed test. 00:30:31.420 --> 00:30:35.019 I was getting 800. Are you cabled or Wi -Fi for 00:30:35.019 --> 00:30:39.460 the Xbox? The Xbox is hardwired into an IW. Right, 00:30:39.539 --> 00:30:43.819 okay. And I did a speed test on the Xbox in its 00:30:43.819 --> 00:30:45.619 own speed test thing and it was getting 200. 00:30:46.700 --> 00:30:48.880 It's like, well, if you're all getting 200 meg, 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.480 why are you only actually downloading at six 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.680 kilobytes a second and saying it's going to take 00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.440 you eight hours to download Sea of Thieves? No, 00:30:57.460 --> 00:30:59.119 something's not right. Something's not right. 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.480 I power cycled it. I power cycled all of my equipment. 00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:04.460 Like, sorry, everyone, this is going to be really 00:31:04.460 --> 00:31:06.119 boring. I'm going to get nerdy with TJ for a 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:07.480 moment. Just hold on, everyone. Just hold on, 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.079 hold on. There's a thing about IWs where sometimes 00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:12.680 they go funky and will only give you five meg 00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.910 data transfer. My boss and I have never really 00:31:16.910 --> 00:31:19.569 solved how we've ever solved it, but we seem 00:31:19.569 --> 00:31:22.109 to fix it usually. And it's normally on the... 00:31:22.109 --> 00:31:25.250 We've noticed it on the i7 modules rather than 00:31:25.250 --> 00:31:28.450 the i6s, and I've got i6s in my house. So... 00:31:28.450 --> 00:31:32.029 And I've never experienced it to the point where 00:31:32.029 --> 00:31:33.789 I'm now going to take my laptop and drive a single 00:31:33.789 --> 00:31:35.289 port on that thing and see if there's actually 00:31:35.289 --> 00:31:36.950 something going on with it. Yeah, see if maybe 00:31:36.950 --> 00:31:39.410 the IW is correct. I did change the ports when 00:31:39.410 --> 00:31:41.890 I was plugged in, and it didn't matter what port 00:31:41.890 --> 00:31:43.670 it was. So my next stage is I'm going to take 00:31:43.670 --> 00:31:45.650 that out... And I'm going to take that cable 00:31:45.650 --> 00:31:47.329 straight into the Xbox and see if it does it. 00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:51.329 And maybe the IW's... I know this is the geek 00:31:51.329 --> 00:31:54.670 hour now. I take it you've jumped onto the UniFi 00:31:54.670 --> 00:31:56.730 console and had a look at the insights for the 00:31:56.730 --> 00:31:59.869 port the IW's connected to. Yeah, but it doesn't 00:31:59.869 --> 00:32:01.470 really... It doesn't say there's anything wrong 00:32:01.470 --> 00:32:02.869 with it. So it wasn't giving me that error message 00:32:02.869 --> 00:32:06.569 that you showed me before. Okay, yeah. Everything's 00:32:06.569 --> 00:32:10.730 green. Everything's happy. I don't know what's 00:32:10.730 --> 00:32:13.150 wrong. Yeah, and you'll see the data thing. This 00:32:13.150 --> 00:32:15.650 is, sorry everyone, there's like a graph. Yeah. 00:32:15.710 --> 00:32:17.950 It will go right up like it's using data and 00:32:17.950 --> 00:32:20.529 then instantly plummet. That's very weird. It's 00:32:20.529 --> 00:32:22.750 like it's asked for it and got it briefly and 00:32:22.750 --> 00:32:24.789 then gone, nah, sorry. It's almost like your 00:32:24.789 --> 00:32:27.890 Xbox has been rate limited by Microsoft. Why? 00:32:28.369 --> 00:32:30.410 Have you been shouting things down to the microphone 00:32:30.410 --> 00:32:32.710 at kids again? Yeah, it's all the Pornhub. No, 00:32:32.750 --> 00:32:37.069 I think it's actually probably something to do 00:32:37.069 --> 00:32:39.720 with my ISP. Is it either going to be my ISP 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:42.660 or it's going to be the Xbox itself? Because 00:32:42.660 --> 00:32:45.039 when you look online, the normal things are, 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:46.519 I've got to make sure I open up all these ports 00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:47.720 and all these things, which I'm going to do. 00:32:47.740 --> 00:32:49.220 I'm going to open up every single fucking port 00:32:49.220 --> 00:32:54.460 it asks me to open up. And it also says you need 00:32:54.460 --> 00:32:57.519 to check whether your ISP is throttling particular 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.759 things. So I might just call them up and ask 00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.460 them. Yeah, I was going to say, they could be 00:33:02.460 --> 00:33:05.059 saying, well, you know what, we see a lot of 00:33:05.059 --> 00:33:09.140 Xbox traffic and... We don't like that. But when 00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:12.259 I was on Gigabit Symmetric, never had this problem. 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.140 I'm wondering if it's now I've moved to their 00:33:14.140 --> 00:33:16.420 900 service. I need to check the fine print. 00:33:16.460 --> 00:33:18.160 I wonder if there is something on their 900 service 00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:19.559 that's different than their Gigabit service. 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.119 Possibly, yeah. Maybe there's an agreement or 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:24.539 something on there. I don't know. Like a fair 00:33:24.539 --> 00:33:26.859 use thing and they don't class Xboxes in fair 00:33:26.859 --> 00:33:29.940 use. But the PlayStation is fine and it's hardwired 00:33:29.940 --> 00:33:32.799 into the same MW. Anyway, sorry everyone. I can't 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:34.500 remember. Yeah. So we never got to play Sea of 00:33:34.500 --> 00:33:37.019 Thieves in the end. After all that, when we finally 00:33:37.019 --> 00:33:39.559 actually got to play server maintenance. Oh, 00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.059 fuck's sake. So it was at this point, it was 00:33:42.059 --> 00:33:44.559 10 o 'clock. So what we did was like, oh, we've 00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.380 both been talking about RuneScape Dragon Worlds 00:33:46.380 --> 00:33:50.059 for a while, which is a type of game that Mark 00:33:50.059 --> 00:33:51.839 and I like to play together. One of those survival 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.539 games. Yeah. And they build a base, eat food, 00:33:54.579 --> 00:33:58.500 whatever. And it's by Jagex. Fun fact, I went 00:33:58.500 --> 00:34:03.240 for a job at Jagex. Didn't get it. who make a 00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:05.019 game called RuneScape. They're not a particularly 00:34:05.019 --> 00:34:08.179 good company nowadays. They're, you know, money 00:34:08.179 --> 00:34:11.059 -grabbing bastards. Which most of them are. But 00:34:11.059 --> 00:34:13.260 this Dragon Wars game is actually really fucking 00:34:13.260 --> 00:34:16.019 cool. It's actually really cool. Graphically 00:34:16.019 --> 00:34:19.159 very nice. You know, the kind of normal survival 00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:21.519 stuff. Cut down a tree to get word. And you can 00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:23.239 do magic and all kinds of stuff. Yeah, so we 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:24.579 played that. We managed to play it for half an 00:34:24.579 --> 00:34:28.460 hour because T woke up. So we got half an hour 00:34:28.460 --> 00:34:31.269 in in the end. What else have we played? We've 00:34:31.269 --> 00:34:34.010 been watching Last of Us 2, the series. So that's 00:34:34.010 --> 00:34:35.809 got me wanting to play the game because I've 00:34:35.809 --> 00:34:38.230 owned it, never played it. We spoke about this 00:34:38.230 --> 00:34:41.550 a couple of... Oh, excuse me. On the last episode, 00:34:41.610 --> 00:34:43.429 so I played a little bit more. I'm kind of like 00:34:43.429 --> 00:34:45.929 playing up to where I am in the episodes. So 00:34:45.929 --> 00:34:48.010 I'm watching the episode, then playing the game 00:34:48.010 --> 00:34:50.289 up to the same point and then going back to the 00:34:50.289 --> 00:34:52.809 episode. So that's been quite interesting to 00:34:52.809 --> 00:34:55.690 see how they've changed it. Whereas like the 00:34:55.690 --> 00:34:59.230 first season was very close. But this second 00:34:59.230 --> 00:35:04.119 one... They're doing the same beats, but already 00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:08.760 on Episode 3. Massive change in a big aspect. 00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.139 And there's something changes in Episode 4. They 00:35:11.139 --> 00:35:13.579 really have actually kind of... They're doing 00:35:13.579 --> 00:35:16.320 the same thing, but not doing the same thing. 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:22.440 It's odd. Anyway, what else? Yeah, they just 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.380 randomly released the Oblivion Elder Scrolls 00:35:25.380 --> 00:35:28.750 remaster, which... It's actually fucking brilliant. 00:35:28.949 --> 00:35:30.809 Yeah, I've been loving seeing the pictures of 00:35:30.809 --> 00:35:33.510 character creator then, character creator now. 00:35:33.769 --> 00:35:35.630 It's absolutely brilliant. So if you like the 00:35:35.630 --> 00:35:38.230 original one, which I loved, you'll like this 00:35:38.230 --> 00:35:40.610 one. And finally, Clear Obscure Exhibition 33 00:35:40.610 --> 00:35:46.690 come out. It's a turn -based RPG, a turn -based 00:35:46.690 --> 00:35:49.510 combat RPG. It's absolutely beautiful. It's by 00:35:49.510 --> 00:35:51.349 a French development company. I think they're 00:35:51.349 --> 00:35:55.150 all ex -Ubisoft employees, I want to say. And 00:35:55.150 --> 00:35:57.929 it's wonderful. It's absolutely brilliant. I've 00:35:57.929 --> 00:35:59.869 had to put it on story mode because I find it 00:35:59.869 --> 00:36:04.250 too difficult. The combat, whilst it's turn based, 00:36:04.530 --> 00:36:07.550 the tactical side of it, I'm fine at because 00:36:07.550 --> 00:36:09.590 I like that kind of game. That's my jam. But 00:36:09.590 --> 00:36:12.750 when the enemies attack you, you can dodge and 00:36:12.750 --> 00:36:15.619 parry. I can't get the timings right. I've never 00:36:15.619 --> 00:36:17.840 been able to read enemy actions, which is why 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:22.940 I can't play Elden Ring and all those. We spoke 00:36:22.940 --> 00:36:24.619 about Elden Ring before. I will never go back 00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:26.559 to it. It's too difficult for me. So, yeah, I 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.119 had to put it on. I put it down to easy. I started 00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:30.980 on medium, then put it to easy now on story mode. 00:36:30.980 --> 00:36:32.780 It was even Cult of Lamb you struggled with the 00:36:32.780 --> 00:36:35.199 parrying. Yeah, still now I do struggle with 00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:39.699 Cult of Lamb. I do all dodging. on that yeah 00:36:39.699 --> 00:36:43.119 only dodge and i do a lot of it and i still i'll 00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.139 dodge into things i'll be wrong i don't know 00:36:46.139 --> 00:36:48.320 i've never been good at it well even when we 00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:51.840 played like uh shooters i'd fly the helicopter 00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.480 that's what i could do oh yeah i was never quick 00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.960 enough to be the first person to shoot so i'd 00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.719 die so like so i always play support classes 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:02.860 i always played the healer so i'd i had my lmg 00:37:03.369 --> 00:37:07.309 Big, dumb, stupid gun. And then I would heal 00:37:07.309 --> 00:37:09.710 people and I'd fly the helicopter. That's what 00:37:09.710 --> 00:37:11.389 I would do. I miss the days of Battlefield running 00:37:11.389 --> 00:37:13.630 around with the defib. And we just had our little 00:37:13.630 --> 00:37:17.030 crew, didn't we? We had me, you, Mark, Dan, and 00:37:17.030 --> 00:37:20.650 we'd have a healer. We'd have whatever Mark chose 00:37:20.650 --> 00:37:22.750 to be, which typically would be some sort of... 00:37:22.750 --> 00:37:25.869 Some kamikaze explosive person. Dan would go 00:37:25.869 --> 00:37:28.409 for a scout or sniper. And then you would go 00:37:28.409 --> 00:37:31.639 for your... the support side and i used to love 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:33.900 it because we used to absolutely destroy maps 00:37:33.900 --> 00:37:35.980 in that game as i as soon as we got that little 00:37:35.980 --> 00:37:38.760 tank person carrier that was it that was game 00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:40.320 over for the rest of the map because there's 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:42.059 just be the four of us would just drive through 00:37:42.059 --> 00:37:45.500 a wall and not hate everyone and then as we had 00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:47.579 me running around on dvb is like right okay hang 00:37:47.579 --> 00:37:51.179 on all right you're back up let's go yeah i just 00:37:51.179 --> 00:37:54.380 used to like i would get the black hawk then 00:37:54.380 --> 00:37:57.239 i'll start flying it and i'll just circle Mark 00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:58.940 would stay on the big machine gun and you and 00:37:58.940 --> 00:38:01.099 DJ would just keep helicopter, like parachuting 00:38:01.099 --> 00:38:02.780 out. When you died, you spawned back in the Black 00:38:02.780 --> 00:38:06.500 Hawk. It's just like raining fire on everybody. 00:38:06.619 --> 00:38:08.500 Anyway, that's what I've been doing. Lots of 00:38:08.500 --> 00:38:11.119 games when I've had the chance to, and it's been 00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:14.880 lovely. Just a shame about the television show. 00:38:15.219 --> 00:38:19.480 Yeah. If you start deciding which body is best, 00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:23.820 you're going down a very dangerous path. It's 00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:37.789 the truest thing I've heard all day. So I want 00:38:37.789 --> 00:38:41.469 to start this right by saying his first season 00:38:41.469 --> 00:38:44.849 I enjoyed. I looked forward to every episode. 00:38:45.170 --> 00:38:47.650 I didn't look at my phone while watching it, 00:38:47.710 --> 00:38:49.309 which is a key thing for when you're watching 00:38:49.309 --> 00:38:51.710 TV. If you watch, if you pick your phone up or 00:38:51.710 --> 00:38:54.590 not like. Back to The Last of Us really quick. 00:38:54.789 --> 00:38:57.230 Never once have I picked my phone up while watching 00:38:57.230 --> 00:39:01.030 The Last of Us Season 2. Not one time. I'm going 00:39:01.030 --> 00:39:04.949 to immediately draw the words you just said to 00:39:04.949 --> 00:39:10.650 attention. I enjoyed. That's all you said. There 00:39:10.650 --> 00:39:15.969 was no other description. It was just, I enjoyed 00:39:15.969 --> 00:39:18.750 it. I think that's an alright thing to say. It's 00:39:18.750 --> 00:39:21.239 an alright thing to say. How would you have described 00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.780 the first series of David Tennant? How would 00:39:23.780 --> 00:39:25.860 you have explained the first series of Tennant, 00:39:25.980 --> 00:39:28.639 Eccleston? You wouldn't have just said, I enjoyed 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.119 it. You would have said, I loved it. I would 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:32.820 have said, I loved it. If it was Eccleston, I 00:39:32.820 --> 00:39:35.800 would have said, I loved it. I was obsessed with 00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:38.519 it. And I think that's the thing to take away 00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:42.699 from this overall before we get to the end. I 00:39:42.699 --> 00:39:44.079 mean, we could just end it there, couldn't we? 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.710 The thing is, it's been enjoyable. It's not been 00:39:49.710 --> 00:39:53.409 great. It's not been mind -altering. It's not 00:39:53.409 --> 00:39:57.650 been, I've got to watch it. I only finished season 00:39:57.650 --> 00:40:02.110 one today. You only did it because you wanted 00:40:02.110 --> 00:40:03.969 to watch the season two episode for the show. 00:40:04.170 --> 00:40:07.750 Exactly. So it's like, I really didn't feel the 00:40:07.750 --> 00:40:09.550 need to go back to it. So it's like, hang on 00:40:09.550 --> 00:40:11.230 a moment. I don't feel the need to go back to 00:40:11.230 --> 00:40:14.010 this. I thought I'd probably watch the majority 00:40:14.010 --> 00:40:17.619 of the series. I'd watched four episodes. There 00:40:17.619 --> 00:40:20.380 were still four more to watch or five more to 00:40:20.380 --> 00:40:23.320 watch. And I thought, oh my God, this is a slog. 00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:30.000 As much as... So, okay, we've got the pronunciation. 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:33.940 It's Shuti Gatwa. Oh, well done. There's no N 00:40:33.940 --> 00:40:37.280 -C. Shuti Gatwa. It's Shuti. The sound is the 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:41.019 N -C sound. So that's Shuti Gatwa. Okay. Is an 00:40:41.019 --> 00:40:45.760 excellent actor. He's Rwandan Scottish heritage. 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.820 Wow, that's a mix. It is an interesting mix, 00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.539 but it explains his accent in the show, because 00:40:51.539 --> 00:40:53.480 I couldn't put my finger on what it was, and 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:57.360 that explains it a bit more. I like that. He 00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:01.079 just... A, I don't think he's been written well 00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:04.480 for. I think it's very much the Whittaker standard 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:09.360 here, which is always disappointing. However... 00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.500 If we look, and I've said this before when we've 00:41:13.500 --> 00:41:15.079 ranted about Doctor Who before, and I think what 00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.480 we should do, I know we did Doctor Who or Doctor 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.199 Who in the variety show in the first year, I 00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.440 think, and I think we do need to cover that without 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:26.980 going too long into this. Even the classic Doctor 00:41:26.980 --> 00:41:29.139 Who, so we'll change the names here. So we've 00:41:29.139 --> 00:41:32.519 got classic Who, that is the 60s onwards. We 00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:36.340 then have modern Who, which is Eccleston onwards. 00:41:36.780 --> 00:41:40.630 And now we have new Who. which is Shooty Gutwa 00:41:40.630 --> 00:41:44.349 onwards. This is Disney Who, isn't it? They've 00:41:44.349 --> 00:41:46.110 got a stake in it, right? Yeah, they've got a 00:41:46.110 --> 00:41:47.670 stake in it, which is why they've got more budget 00:41:47.670 --> 00:41:52.369 and they've got more effect and so on and better 00:41:52.369 --> 00:41:55.929 looking everything, basically. And it really 00:41:55.929 --> 00:42:01.889 doesn't feel like he is a doctor. I think that's 00:42:01.889 --> 00:42:05.050 my thing. Every doctor, including classic Who, 00:42:05.269 --> 00:42:08.079 and I mean... And I genuinely do mean Classico, 00:42:08.139 --> 00:42:10.000 actually, even all the way back to William Hartnell, 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:14.360 the original Doctor. They all had the ability 00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.559 to be all nice as pie and then suddenly snap 00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:20.400 and they're a completely different person. And 00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.519 it's like, right, I gave you a chance. Now it's 00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:27.420 over. Well, for me, the Doctor is a balance between 00:42:27.420 --> 00:42:30.679 light and dark. And he lives in the middle on 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.099 a set of scales which he can never keep level. 00:42:34.590 --> 00:42:36.869 Yeah. That's how I've always seen the Doctor. 00:42:37.090 --> 00:42:40.409 He either goes fully one way or fully the other, 00:42:40.469 --> 00:42:43.670 and he's always fighting each way. Whereas with 00:42:43.670 --> 00:42:48.210 Tutti, I kind of, I don't see the dark part. 00:42:48.469 --> 00:42:51.610 There isn't any. He's a lot of... The most angry 00:42:51.610 --> 00:42:54.550 I've seen him so far, I can't even, because I've 00:42:54.550 --> 00:42:56.929 seen so many episodes in a row now, I think it 00:42:56.929 --> 00:43:00.769 must be one of the two final episodes, he basically 00:43:00.769 --> 00:43:05.550 punches a... lifts door and then crumples up 00:43:05.550 --> 00:43:07.909 on the floor upset that he didn't do more to 00:43:07.909 --> 00:43:11.369 stop something and then he just carries on it's 00:43:11.369 --> 00:43:14.849 like hang on a moment no that's that it wasn't 00:43:14.849 --> 00:43:17.050 it didn't even feel like raw emotion it just 00:43:17.050 --> 00:43:19.050 felt like someone was slightly pissed off and 00:43:19.050 --> 00:43:21.849 told him you need to kind of try and and it just 00:43:21.849 --> 00:43:29.730 didn't work um i mean you look at when he thinks 00:43:29.730 --> 00:43:35.349 um brilliant episode The cosplaying bird people 00:43:35.349 --> 00:43:39.650 really enjoyed the idea of that. Where was his 00:43:39.650 --> 00:43:43.730 anger when he believed that Ruby Sunday had been 00:43:43.730 --> 00:43:48.190 killed and is now a costume? Yeah. There wasn't 00:43:48.190 --> 00:43:50.550 any. It just didn't feel... If that had been 00:43:50.550 --> 00:43:54.769 any of the previous Doctors, it's like, I'm giving 00:43:54.769 --> 00:43:59.389 you a chance to leave. Leave. Right, I gave you 00:43:59.389 --> 00:44:01.800 that chance to leave. Now you're going to find 00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.360 out about what the Doctor actually is. And instead 00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.480 he's just kind of like, yeah, you kind of killed 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.159 my friend. I'm upset by that. But I've been clever 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:11.900 and look, I've put these three transport bits 00:44:11.900 --> 00:44:14.340 around you now. And then even then he fucks it 00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:16.139 up because it's still Ruby Sunday in the Sodding 00:44:16.139 --> 00:44:19.639 Triangle. So then his lover ends up knocking 00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:21.860 her out, which I still think is the stupidest 00:44:21.860 --> 00:44:23.800 way. Oh, they're locked in there. You can't do 00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:25.860 anything about it. No, but if I run at her and 00:44:25.860 --> 00:44:28.860 push her, oh, brilliant. Good technology then. 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:32.699 Great. Yeah, sorry. I haven't watched them since 00:44:32.699 --> 00:44:34.440 they were released, so I'm trying to remember 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.840 as you're saying it. I do remember I really quite 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:41.820 liked the baddie, the music maestro baddie. Yeah, 00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.699 so that was, oh, I can't think of their name 00:44:44.699 --> 00:44:47.610 now. I think it begins with a J, but yeah. They 00:44:47.610 --> 00:44:50.469 were fantastic. Absolutely phenomenal. We might 00:44:50.469 --> 00:44:52.289 have said that at the time. Yeah, really, really 00:44:52.289 --> 00:44:55.250 fun episode with the Beatles, fake Beatles in 00:44:55.250 --> 00:44:57.989 it, of course. And yeah, you've got the maestro 00:44:57.989 --> 00:45:01.590 and it's all leading up to finding out who's 00:45:01.590 --> 00:45:04.409 coming, which turns out to be Shekath or Shaka 00:45:04.409 --> 00:45:07.489 for whatever the name is. Stucka. I can't remember 00:45:07.489 --> 00:45:08.969 the name of death and I've only just watched 00:45:08.969 --> 00:45:12.250 the bloody thing. The dog thing. The dog thing. 00:45:12.250 --> 00:45:16.769 Like the Anubis one a bit. Yeah. And the Toymaker. 00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.519 to an extent, over the top, which is what you 00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:24.780 wanted. But the Doctor wasn't over the top. And 00:45:24.780 --> 00:45:26.800 the only way that episode genuinely succeeded 00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.579 was because, guess what? David Tennant was in 00:45:29.579 --> 00:45:32.980 it. Being the Doctor, we wanted. Yeah, yeah. 00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:36.239 And I don't think it's Shooty's issue. It's not 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.440 his fault. He's doing what he's being directed 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:42.420 to and what he's been written for. And he's obviously 00:45:42.420 --> 00:45:48.760 been written to be this much more... much more 00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:52.360 peace -loving, much more emotional character. 00:45:53.179 --> 00:45:55.880 It just isn't Doctor Who like that. That's not 00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.079 Doctor Who. That's a different series altogether. 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.380 And we've talked about it, haven't we? Torchwood 00:46:02.380 --> 00:46:06.219 was Doctor Who for adults. Doctor Who was Doctor 00:46:06.219 --> 00:46:08.539 Who for families. And then you had the Sarah 00:46:08.539 --> 00:46:10.320 Jane adventures, which was Doctor Who for kids. 00:46:11.179 --> 00:46:13.960 That's how it should be. This feels like it's 00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:17.250 trying to be Torchwood. while still being family 00:46:17.250 --> 00:46:20.530 friendly and it's just not doing the job and 00:46:20.530 --> 00:46:24.429 looking at this laces episode oh so much of it 00:46:24.429 --> 00:46:27.230 was wrong so by latest episode we're saying we 00:46:27.230 --> 00:46:31.769 just mean episode one of season two which was 00:46:31.769 --> 00:46:34.210 called let me just bring up on here robot revolution 00:46:34.210 --> 00:46:39.250 robot revolution um that's the only one get into 00:46:39.250 --> 00:46:40.889 a bit that i've actually watched all the way 00:46:40.889 --> 00:46:47.110 through yeah so main thing that I really disliked 00:46:47.110 --> 00:46:51.949 about this is, again, going back to this, make 00:46:51.949 --> 00:46:53.809 your fucking mind up what this show's meant to 00:46:53.809 --> 00:46:56.369 be now. Is it meant to be kid and family friendly 00:46:56.369 --> 00:46:59.110 or is it meant to be adult? Because if it's going 00:46:59.110 --> 00:47:01.650 to be adult, stick to that. If it's going to 00:47:01.650 --> 00:47:04.989 be kid friendly, stick to that. Now, they did 00:47:04.989 --> 00:47:07.909 this in that last episode, the last two episodes 00:47:07.909 --> 00:47:10.889 of the last series. Everything up to that point 00:47:10.889 --> 00:47:14.639 had been fairly family friendly. And then what 00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:19.440 the fuck we get Susan turn into what looks like 00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:23.619 a horrifying fucking creature. Then someone at 00:47:23.619 --> 00:47:27.179 unit also getting the horrifying, scary look. 00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.280 That is not family friendly anymore. Now, the 00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:32.539 difference is, and people may be screaming at 00:47:32.539 --> 00:47:35.039 the radio, whatever they're listening to this 00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.679 on. The wireless. The wireless, darling, the 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:41.159 wireless. Oh, get it warmed up. I've just put 00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:45.639 new valves in it. If they want to scream, they 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:48.860 can. Oh, yes, but it used to be scary for us 00:47:48.860 --> 00:47:50.280 because of the Daleks and everything like that. 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:54.500 Yes. But overall, they were, like people joke, 00:47:55.059 --> 00:47:58.719 metal pepper pots, and they had enough to scare 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.179 children, but not enough to make them have horrendous 00:48:02.179 --> 00:48:04.019 nightmares for the rest of their fucking life. 00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:07.619 Yeah. Whereas the character design for the two 00:48:07.619 --> 00:48:09.639 that are blowing dust around the world before 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.869 the dog turned, the dog thing was fine. It was 00:48:12.869 --> 00:48:14.650 the two fucking characters they created where 00:48:14.650 --> 00:48:17.710 the eyes are sunken in, the skin was terrifying. 00:48:18.710 --> 00:48:21.090 So it's like, hang on a moment. You've just completely 00:48:21.090 --> 00:48:23.389 shifted this from being a fairly family friendly 00:48:23.389 --> 00:48:27.190 to, I would have children crying seeing that, 00:48:27.250 --> 00:48:29.909 I think. And then we come to this first episode 00:48:29.909 --> 00:48:32.989 and we get these cute, stupid looking robots. 00:48:33.329 --> 00:48:35.590 Yeah. Okay. They're a bit dumb. They're a bit 00:48:35.590 --> 00:48:38.440 fun. They feel a bit cheap and naff, but. That's 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:41.400 kind of Doctor Who. That fits right. I don't 00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.900 mind. It's quirky. It's like the episode from 00:48:44.900 --> 00:48:49.179 Peter Capaldi's Doctor with Greg Davis, the comedian 00:48:49.179 --> 00:48:51.019 in it, who plays the king in his giant robot. 00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:54.159 It looks stupid, but it's fun. Yeah. Doesn't 00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:57.719 really matter. And then we go through the episode. 00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.980 We're quite enjoying it. And then we see the 00:49:00.980 --> 00:49:03.159 bloke that she basically said, yeah, I don't 00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.099 really want to be dating you. Oh, yeah. This 00:49:05.099 --> 00:49:07.909 is where we get our lesson. who's suddenly turned 00:49:07.909 --> 00:49:13.789 into a fairly dark monstrosity with no legs, 00:49:13.849 --> 00:49:16.449 no arms, a ribcage just dangling down. Yeah. 00:49:17.050 --> 00:49:21.210 It's a terrifying change -up. So if you've introduced 00:49:21.210 --> 00:49:22.969 younger children to this and they're quite, oh, 00:49:22.969 --> 00:49:25.150 look at those robots, how fun, ooh, and then 00:49:25.150 --> 00:49:30.730 boom. Yeah. We touched on something that Biffo 00:49:30.730 --> 00:49:33.469 had wrote. on his patreon about it and we were 00:49:33.469 --> 00:49:34.909 going to read i never actually read it in the 00:49:34.909 --> 00:49:38.510 end but and it kind of headlined about it not 00:49:38.510 --> 00:49:40.030 being family friendly and i was going through 00:49:40.030 --> 00:49:41.869 it again when he said that the robots aren't 00:49:41.869 --> 00:49:43.489 family friendly i'm looking at this thinking 00:49:43.489 --> 00:49:48.730 this is this is fine and then wow it really when 00:49:48.730 --> 00:49:53.170 that amazing makeup it looked brilliant and this 00:49:53.170 --> 00:49:56.010 is really great job to the makeup team and the 00:49:56.010 --> 00:49:58.989 fx team and everybody involved now great but 00:50:00.269 --> 00:50:03.989 That's scary. That's the thing. I mean, obviously 00:50:03.989 --> 00:50:07.010 it's not scary to us. We know that. But when 00:50:07.010 --> 00:50:09.190 you're aiming a show that was meant to be primetime 00:50:09.190 --> 00:50:13.070 family show, that is fairly terrifying. Now, 00:50:13.150 --> 00:50:17.210 we can't just blame New Who for this. Modern 00:50:17.210 --> 00:50:22.230 Doctor Who also had this. What was the Water 00:50:22.230 --> 00:50:24.750 on Mars episode? Yeah, that was a scary one. 00:50:24.929 --> 00:50:27.929 That was disturbing. Well, the Weeping Angels. 00:50:28.750 --> 00:50:32.809 That's a scary, well, a thrilly kind of... That's 00:50:32.809 --> 00:50:35.190 the thing, though, isn't it? That is a much more 00:50:35.190 --> 00:50:38.429 thinking sort of horror style. So actually, most 00:50:38.429 --> 00:50:41.389 children, it would probably, over their head, 00:50:41.449 --> 00:50:44.889 they won't think too much about it, which is 00:50:44.889 --> 00:50:47.090 fine, because all they'll think about is concrete 00:50:47.090 --> 00:50:49.269 statue. Yeah, OK, there's the screaming face 00:50:49.269 --> 00:50:51.869 of it if you see it in time. But I think most 00:50:51.869 --> 00:50:53.809 children could probably get past that fairly 00:50:53.809 --> 00:50:59.570 simply. monster bloke sat in a cupboard who's 00:50:59.570 --> 00:51:02.010 had half his body removed. He's got one giant... 00:51:02.010 --> 00:51:04.210 He's Jeremy Beadle in there. He's got one big 00:51:04.210 --> 00:51:07.889 hand, one little hand. And then all of the makeup 00:51:07.889 --> 00:51:13.510 on. He's terrifying. But then, then we find out 00:51:13.510 --> 00:51:16.510 that the doctor is too thick to realise that 00:51:16.510 --> 00:51:23.469 an L is an L. It's not AI. It's Al. Yes, because 00:51:23.469 --> 00:51:27.300 that's clearly an L. Fuck me, you're meant to 00:51:27.300 --> 00:51:31.340 save us. Did David Tennant take the brains and 00:51:31.340 --> 00:51:33.559 you've just got the emotion? Yeah, he got the 00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:35.719 good -looking body and David Tennant took the 00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:41.059 brains. Yeah, it just was the worst, worst, worst. 00:51:41.820 --> 00:51:44.320 As I did say, though, that was also the learning 00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.960 moment, you know, the coercive control, planet 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.739 of incels kind of. When they started saying that, 00:51:49.820 --> 00:51:55.599 I literally audibly went, ugh. like that because 00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:58.960 i just like here's where i'm being taught something 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.960 that yeah i one of the reasons why i didn't like 00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:07.280 any of the the the other ones um not trying to 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:08.679 go too deep into that because i want everyone 00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:11.199 to start hating me but yeah i just don't i don't 00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.159 like being so blatantly shoved a lesson in my 00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.860 face and i thought that was its moment it was 00:52:16.860 --> 00:52:18.780 a little bit more subtle because it wasn't the 00:52:18.780 --> 00:52:21.059 whole episode than the whittaker era but it was 00:52:21.500 --> 00:52:23.380 there it was. And I hope that they're not all 00:52:23.380 --> 00:52:25.440 going to turn into that because I'll get bored. 00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.320 I think the issue that I'm having with new who, 00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:34.420 so this is shooting that one. And I guess the 00:52:34.420 --> 00:52:37.940 Whitaker era had it, the Capaldi era had it prior 00:52:37.940 --> 00:52:42.360 to that eras. I think actually the fair, the 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:46.079 most of them, they did quite well at, they seem 00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:49.079 to have forgotten how to end an episode and having 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:51.460 kind of binged, watched all the kind of, half 00:52:51.460 --> 00:52:55.260 over half of season one of this new who it just 00:52:55.260 --> 00:52:57.619 really kind of comes to the conclusion that they 00:52:57.619 --> 00:53:01.800 have no way to end this and i do think that stems 00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.219 back to the doctor has no aggression no passion 00:53:04.219 --> 00:53:09.780 a lot of the episodes at tennon or smith or eccleston 00:53:09.780 --> 00:53:13.559 finished it would often be because they've had 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:19.059 a massive emotional change of what they've done 00:53:20.069 --> 00:53:22.389 Or, and this is the other thing that's really 00:53:22.389 --> 00:53:26.650 missing from New Who, they've trekked the trek. 00:53:26.989 --> 00:53:30.389 They've done something clever. Because so far, 00:53:30.610 --> 00:53:33.230 Shooty Gut was not doing anything clever as the 00:53:33.230 --> 00:53:35.510 Doctor. Yeah, not really. Almost every episode 00:53:35.510 --> 00:53:38.949 of Modern Who or Who before that, out would come 00:53:38.949 --> 00:53:42.289 the screwdriver and they'd come, oh, well, no, 00:53:42.349 --> 00:53:44.010 I'm probably going to die now. And then within 00:53:44.010 --> 00:53:46.190 a couple of seconds left before they died, they'd 00:53:46.190 --> 00:53:48.250 suddenly realise, oh, no, I know what I can do. 00:53:49.849 --> 00:53:52.530 clever way out of the the whole trap that they 00:53:52.530 --> 00:53:55.369 were stuck in and they would just do all sorts 00:53:55.369 --> 00:53:58.369 like move an entire planet out of orbit to save 00:53:58.369 --> 00:54:00.550 them yeah yeah you don't feel like you're going 00:54:00.550 --> 00:54:02.190 to ever get that with you and we've not seen 00:54:02.190 --> 00:54:06.010 that i mean actually this episode opened with 00:54:06.010 --> 00:54:08.110 him killing hundreds of people in a hospital 00:54:08.110 --> 00:54:10.329 by trying to get someone's name and address and 00:54:10.329 --> 00:54:12.230 instead cussing the power to the entire hospital 00:54:12.230 --> 00:54:15.199 yeah Well done there, Doctor. You've just knocked 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:16.760 them all out. All the lights have gone off. So 00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:18.719 how many patients' life support went off? Yeah. 00:54:19.659 --> 00:54:23.019 I will say, side note, I don't like his sonic 00:54:23.019 --> 00:54:25.599 screwdriver. No, it's not a screwdriver. It's 00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.679 a mobile phone. It's an old clamshell mobile 00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.500 phone, isn't it? It's just like, that's not a 00:54:30.500 --> 00:54:33.960 screwdriver. Yeah, I don't like that. We started 00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:36.739 watching episode two. We got 10 minutes in, went 00:54:36.739 --> 00:54:39.360 to bed, said to the wife, do you want to watch 00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:41.219 any more of it? She's like, no, I'm not interested. 00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:45.059 Yeah, I... It's funny, isn't it? I quite enjoyed 00:54:45.059 --> 00:54:48.519 the end of season one, even though, again, it 00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:49.940 still felt like they didn't really know how to 00:54:49.940 --> 00:54:54.769 end it. The whole Ruby's mum. arc of the story 00:54:54.769 --> 00:54:59.010 was just really weak and it just felt like wow 00:54:59.010 --> 00:55:01.809 you really are just bidding off ruby sunday and 00:55:01.809 --> 00:55:03.989 just going yeah bye see ya i don't remember how 00:55:03.989 --> 00:55:06.730 that ended um mum thing the whole thing is yeah 00:55:06.730 --> 00:55:10.369 they finally find her mum and then she gets a 00:55:10.369 --> 00:55:14.190 phone call mid -conversation to the doctor oh 00:55:14.190 --> 00:55:17.730 they've just found my dad as well okay fine okay 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:21.539 It just felt really rushed and it just felt like 00:55:21.539 --> 00:55:23.599 you really just wanted to get rid of her and 00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:25.059 that's what you've done. You've got rid of her. 00:55:25.820 --> 00:55:30.139 So I was disheartened at that because I was quite 00:55:30.139 --> 00:55:32.179 liking what they were doing with Riri. I thought 00:55:32.179 --> 00:55:36.019 she'd actually come away as quite a good companion. 00:55:36.219 --> 00:55:39.559 She was actually giving us what the Doctor didn't 00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:42.940 seem to have. And yet now we've got this new 00:55:42.940 --> 00:55:47.039 person who... Again, I've got a feeling it's 00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.599 going to end up another Martha. Yeah, I think 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:51.380 so. They're going to try and picture her at the 00:55:51.380 --> 00:55:55.639 same, almost same as Clara as well, the same 00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:58.679 level as the Doctor, whereas, and it sounds awful 00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.099 to say, but the companion, whether it's a man 00:56:01.099 --> 00:56:04.320 or woman, it doesn't really matter. Look at Classic 00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:06.820 Who. We had male companions with the Doctor, 00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:08.699 again, normally with two women at the same time 00:56:08.699 --> 00:56:10.900 as well, and it was just obviously an orgy when 00:56:10.900 --> 00:56:14.380 the cameras were turned off, but... whether it's 00:56:14.380 --> 00:56:16.039 a male or a female, it doesn't matter. The companion 00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:20.000 should always be of a lower ability and should 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.059 always be the vulnerable one for the Doctor to 00:56:22.059 --> 00:56:25.340 somewhat save. That's the idea of the companion. 00:56:25.340 --> 00:56:27.860 If you follow the story of Doctor Who, that is 00:56:27.860 --> 00:56:30.440 it. The companion can just be a companion. They 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.260 don't have to be this entity or, you know... 00:56:34.260 --> 00:56:40.599 Rose Tyler was just normal until she did something 00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:43.449 and took the... the essence from the TARDIS. 00:56:43.510 --> 00:56:46.409 Yes. Then she became something else, but she 00:56:46.409 --> 00:56:48.409 was just a normal person before that. But they 00:56:48.409 --> 00:56:50.809 also were clever with that because they'd thought 00:56:50.809 --> 00:56:54.369 about the story for that far in ahead with the 00:56:54.369 --> 00:56:56.510 whole bad wolf and that she would be part of 00:56:56.510 --> 00:57:00.230 that. So that was a well thought out idea and 00:57:00.230 --> 00:57:03.710 it was well done. It doesn't feel like there's 00:57:03.710 --> 00:57:06.070 anything really. We've got this Mrs. Flood or 00:57:06.070 --> 00:57:10.639 whatever her name is. So this is, for me... I'm 00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:12.139 not going to say it's going to be obvious because 00:57:12.139 --> 00:57:14.699 I could well be wrong. It's just going to be 00:57:14.699 --> 00:57:19.239 another character from classic Who that we hadn't 00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.320 seen in modern movies. She's got a water name, 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:27.300 River Song. She's got a water name. So she's 00:57:27.300 --> 00:57:29.880 going to have some relation to it. I miss Alex 00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:32.760 Kingston. She was wonderful in Doctor Who as 00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:35.360 River Song. One of my favourite characters. It 00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.389 was great. brilliant in er as well but that's 00:57:39.389 --> 00:57:42.550 a different show um and again we're just yeah 00:57:42.550 --> 00:57:45.429 it could it could well be something to if it 00:57:45.429 --> 00:57:49.570 turns out to be bloody amy pond yeah right river 00:57:49.570 --> 00:57:52.250 song was amy pond's child wasn't she yes yeah 00:57:52.250 --> 00:57:54.969 so if this is the fucking granddaughter of amy 00:57:54.969 --> 00:57:57.070 pond i'm just gonna be really pissed off it's 00:57:57.070 --> 00:57:58.349 gonna be some fucking shit like that because 00:57:58.349 --> 00:58:00.269 she's good because of the name the water either 00:58:00.269 --> 00:58:03.909 that what i'm hoping is it's the doctor's daughter 00:58:03.909 --> 00:58:07.570 yeah Which would be even, that would actually 00:58:07.570 --> 00:58:09.150 be somewhat decent. Is she doing anything evil 00:58:09.150 --> 00:58:12.929 yet? Well, this is what we don't know. So she 00:58:12.929 --> 00:58:14.429 kind of, if you look at the last two episodes, 00:58:14.590 --> 00:58:18.050 she basically goes to look after the old woman 00:58:18.050 --> 00:58:21.949 when Ruby's mum goes after her. Oh yeah, she 00:58:21.949 --> 00:58:24.670 is evil there. Yeah. Oh, I'd love a cup of tea. 00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:28.199 No, we'd all love something, wouldn't we? And 00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:31.239 that's the only bit that gives me an idea that 00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:32.920 I don't know if it is something to do with the 00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.360 Doctor. Because she says, oh, do you pray? Yes. 00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:37.960 Then pray to your God and tell them that I'm 00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:40.019 coming and I'm going to knock down the Golden 00:58:40.019 --> 00:58:42.579 Gates. So they're obviously an evil character. 00:58:42.659 --> 00:58:44.619 I don't think they're a good character. And I 00:58:44.619 --> 00:58:46.519 can't see that they would make the Doctor's daughter 00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:49.860 evil. I mean, they might do. Maybe she's really 00:58:49.860 --> 00:58:53.579 sick and twisted in the head. I more think this 00:58:53.579 --> 00:58:55.860 is just going to be yet another revisit to the 00:58:55.860 --> 00:58:59.159 Master. That's what I've thought from the very 00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:01.179 beginning is the Master. It's going to be something 00:59:01.179 --> 00:59:07.579 like the Master or someone from the Time Council 00:59:07.579 --> 00:59:10.579 when they locked the planet away, somehow escaped. 00:59:12.219 --> 00:59:14.619 Someone that was tortured by the Daleks or something 00:59:14.619 --> 00:59:19.679 and is hidden away. I shouldn't say this because 00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:23.800 I know Doctor Who is not just Cybermen and Daleks, 00:59:23.940 --> 00:59:27.460 but it really was missed having the Daleks in 00:59:27.460 --> 00:59:30.860 the first seasons of this modern Who. I missed 00:59:30.860 --> 00:59:34.760 having the Daleks. Yeah. They are such just classic 00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:40.360 Who villains. I would even say that since it's 00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:42.039 kind of, you're right, it's been Disney -fied, 00:59:42.099 --> 00:59:46.329 even the villains don't feel villainous. Yeah. 00:59:47.150 --> 00:59:50.530 I want to kind of wrap it up a bit, because I 00:59:50.530 --> 00:59:54.329 think we could spend another hour just saying 00:59:54.329 --> 00:59:55.829 not very nice things about it. Yeah, and the 00:59:55.829 --> 00:59:58.750 problem is, it was enjoyable. I could sit there 00:59:58.750 --> 01:00:03.250 and watch it. Like I said last week, I couldn't 01:00:03.250 --> 01:00:05.150 be arsed if I watched the next episode or not, 01:00:05.289 --> 01:00:08.929 and that tells me more than about enjoying it. 01:00:08.989 --> 01:00:11.650 That says to me that if I can't really care, 01:00:11.829 --> 01:00:14.940 if I don't really care about... seeing the next 01:00:14.940 --> 01:00:20.480 episode then is it actually that good i i'm in 01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:23.239 the camp of i want to continue watching it and 01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:25.340 i want to watch every episode of this season 01:00:25.340 --> 01:00:29.639 and i but i feel like this is me giving doctor 01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:33.420 who its last chance and if this does not go well 01:00:33.420 --> 01:00:36.199 for me if i don't like it i probably won't ever 01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:39.380 watch it again until they have a long break yeah 01:00:39.380 --> 01:00:43.539 and you know Everyone involved changes. The writers 01:00:43.539 --> 01:00:47.420 change, the directors change. I actually like 01:00:47.420 --> 01:00:51.820 Shooty, but a different Doctor. Really give it 01:00:51.820 --> 01:00:54.880 a long break. I'm talking like five, ten year, 01:00:55.059 --> 01:00:59.219 kind of a huge break, starting again. Well, to 01:00:59.219 --> 01:01:01.920 be honest, I would even go as far as to say I 01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:04.940 think this is the death of Doctor Who now. If 01:01:04.940 --> 01:01:08.239 it does not improve by the end of Series 2, if 01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:12.809 we do not see a massive jump... in shooty gatwa's 01:01:12.809 --> 01:01:18.030 doctor to something that's more present more 01:01:18.030 --> 01:01:24.789 energetic more enigmatic more clever all of these 01:01:24.789 --> 01:01:27.050 things are lacking at the moment we don't get 01:01:27.050 --> 01:01:30.190 any of that really is it that we're just getting 01:01:30.190 --> 01:01:35.710 uh i don't care saying this funny we are getting 01:01:35.710 --> 01:01:40.420 a sexy man being the doctor who is showing a 01:01:40.420 --> 01:01:45.260 lot of emotion, but that is it. Is it that we 01:01:45.260 --> 01:01:48.760 just aren't the demographic anymore? Well, I 01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:54.500 was toying with this idea that, like you said, 01:01:54.539 --> 01:01:57.760 and this is actually one thing I really agree 01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:01.980 with you massively on, episode one of Star Wars 01:02:01.980 --> 01:02:06.820 was not Star Wars for the people that saw it 01:02:06.820 --> 01:02:10.250 in the 70s. This was a different generation Star 01:02:10.250 --> 01:02:13.329 Wars. And the Disney Star Wars is Star Wars for 01:02:13.329 --> 01:02:17.809 a different generation again. The thing I think 01:02:17.809 --> 01:02:23.269 the upset me is if you go by that logic, they're 01:02:23.269 --> 01:02:25.909 not making the show for fans anymore. They're 01:02:25.909 --> 01:02:28.210 just trying to make it for generational gaps. 01:02:28.429 --> 01:02:32.730 And that will kill a show and a franchise. I 01:02:32.730 --> 01:02:35.289 do not see any reason why you could not make. 01:02:35.769 --> 01:02:38.550 Doctor Who from, let's say, Eccleston's era, 01:02:38.690 --> 01:02:42.309 something that the current generation would like. 01:02:42.489 --> 01:02:44.869 I think it's a really good idea to grow your 01:02:44.869 --> 01:02:46.889 show with the audience because they will keep 01:02:46.889 --> 01:02:50.730 watching it. How do you know that the next generation 01:02:50.730 --> 01:02:54.389 will even be into this kind of thing? Yeah, 100%. 01:02:54.389 --> 01:02:57.230 Whereas if they had actually grown the maturity 01:02:57.230 --> 01:03:01.269 of Doctor Who with the demographic of people 01:03:01.269 --> 01:03:04.150 that were watching it, so now aimed it at 40 01:03:04.150 --> 01:03:07.280 -year -old... you know 40 45 year old people 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:11.139 would it actually get more people watching it 01:03:11.139 --> 01:03:14.480 yeah i know that historically it's been aimed 01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.920 at younger people all the way but do we still 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:21.119 do that now is it working we need to have a young 01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:24.099 person to ask we do don't we we do need to kind 01:03:24.099 --> 01:03:28.099 of get a young person's kind of aspects on this 01:03:28.099 --> 01:03:31.460 i mean i could show k i i think we need someone 01:03:31.460 --> 01:03:34.860 older I think we need, if anyone who listens 01:03:34.860 --> 01:03:39.960 to this, firstly, hi. Secondly, who's in their 01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:44.000 20s or very early 30s and watches Doctor Who, 01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.840 I'd like to know what they think of it. Yeah, 01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:49.860 no, I agree. I think you're absolutely right. 01:03:49.980 --> 01:03:52.719 I would be interested to see what they, especially 01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:54.960 if they really enjoy it and think it's the fucking 01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.440 bee's knees, the best thing ever. I'd love to 01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.230 know what they're seeing that we're not. and 01:04:00.230 --> 01:04:02.090 obviously you're right that could just well be 01:04:02.090 --> 01:04:04.570 it's a generational thing and it's just not our 01:04:04.570 --> 01:04:07.230 cup of tea because we grew up with our own who 01:04:07.230 --> 01:04:12.789 I mean that could be the case I would put a caveat 01:04:12.789 --> 01:04:17.190 on that though classic who is my who modern who 01:04:17.190 --> 01:04:22.429 is my who this new who is not so they've managed 01:04:22.429 --> 01:04:26.030 to do it in 2005 when they brought back Eccleston 01:04:26.030 --> 01:04:28.710 they brought back Doctor Who they managed to 01:04:28.710 --> 01:04:31.849 make it such a big thing and do it to a standard 01:04:31.849 --> 01:04:34.409 that actually I was happy to say, no, this is 01:04:34.409 --> 01:04:38.809 Doctor Who still. Are we borderline being the 01:04:38.809 --> 01:04:43.269 Star Wars fans here? I don't know, because as 01:04:43.269 --> 01:04:45.650 I say, for me, I enjoy the classic and I enjoy 01:04:45.650 --> 01:04:48.489 the next lot after it. It's this third lot that... 01:04:48.489 --> 01:04:52.510 OK, I'll include Whittaker and Tom Capaldi in 01:04:52.510 --> 01:04:57.420 this final bit. The writing... And the style 01:04:57.420 --> 01:05:01.199 of the show has just changed too much for me 01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:03.139 to enjoy it. And yeah, okay, that could be a 01:05:03.139 --> 01:05:05.300 generation thing. I'll hold my hands up. And 01:05:05.300 --> 01:05:08.340 if that's the case, that's the case. I just feel 01:05:08.340 --> 01:05:13.000 that they seem to be doing something different 01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:16.219 for different sake. I don't think they're genuinely 01:05:16.219 --> 01:05:18.800 doing it to aim at a different market of people. 01:05:19.139 --> 01:05:22.019 I think they think this is a good idea. And I 01:05:22.019 --> 01:05:24.260 don't think it is. And if you look at the online 01:05:24.260 --> 01:05:26.719 press, I know we say we don't look at reviews, 01:05:27.099 --> 01:05:32.099 but there's very little positive out there. Yeah. 01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:36.400 So, well, all in all, we're disappointed. Disappointed. 01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:38.539 Absolutely. It's the sort of thing I'm disappointed 01:05:38.539 --> 01:05:40.940 in what you're doing at school. Your report, 01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:46.460 I'm disappointed. Have you got two hearts? Padam, 01:05:46.460 --> 01:05:54.880 padam. No way. So, after that bombshell. Next 01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:57.659 episode, I've not told you what it is, so I will 01:05:57.659 --> 01:06:00.960 tell you now, Mr TJ. Oh yes, I've no idea what 01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:04.079 we're watching. We are watching a film that I 01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:08.340 can never ever remember the name of. I thought 01:06:08.340 --> 01:06:11.039 once upon a time I'd made it up in my head that 01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:13.519 this film even existed. Oh wow. And it wasn't 01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:16.369 until you and I really... Reconnected again. 01:06:16.570 --> 01:06:18.309 Oh, was this the one that I looked up for you? 01:06:18.409 --> 01:06:20.010 Because you said, I don't think this is real. 01:06:20.050 --> 01:06:22.590 Yeah, we reconnected. We, you know, got chatting 01:06:22.590 --> 01:06:25.409 loads again. You know, rekindled our love for 01:06:25.409 --> 01:06:29.369 each other. And that film is Existence. Existence, 01:06:29.369 --> 01:06:36.190 yes. And it's 1999. Wonderful. How can you explain 01:06:36.190 --> 01:06:38.409 this for Jude Law? I was going to say, I was 01:06:38.409 --> 01:06:40.809 trying to think of who it was. Ian Holm, Willem 01:06:40.809 --> 01:06:46.739 Dafoe. Yeah. Lots of people in this. It's, well, 01:06:46.739 --> 01:06:50.599 Christopher Eccleston's in it too. Oh my God, 01:06:50.619 --> 01:06:56.960 he is, isn't he? So they create this weird device 01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:00.880 that you connect yourself to and go into like 01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.519 this gaming world. But the device is like this 01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:10.980 organic blob thing. It's a bit trippy. It's... 01:07:12.390 --> 01:07:15.429 How can you explain this game? I'll just read 01:07:15.429 --> 01:07:18.829 what it says on IMDB here. A game designer on 01:07:18.829 --> 01:07:21.750 the run from Assassins must play her latest virtual 01:07:21.750 --> 01:07:24.769 reality creation with a marketing trainee to 01:07:24.769 --> 01:07:27.949 determine if the game has been damaged. That's 01:07:27.949 --> 01:07:31.829 what it says on the tin. It's very odd. I always 01:07:31.829 --> 01:07:34.250 got freaked out by the weird blob thing that 01:07:34.250 --> 01:07:35.909 they have to put their hand on and it's kind 01:07:35.909 --> 01:07:38.980 of all squeaky and gross. Like the umbilical 01:07:38.980 --> 01:07:42.380 cords coming off it. It's really fucked up. Well, 01:07:42.420 --> 01:07:46.039 it's David Cronenberg. Yeah. So if you know that 01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:49.039 name, then you're thinking The Fly, for example. 01:07:49.340 --> 01:07:52.699 He wrote it too. Cronenberg is one of those people 01:07:52.699 --> 01:07:57.219 that he creates a lot of very, very, very good 01:07:57.219 --> 01:08:00.559 stuff. This is the guy who's in Discovery who 01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:08.349 I said should play the guy in Half -Life 2. Yes, 01:08:08.429 --> 01:08:10.250 you're right. It is. Yes, yes, yes, yes. He's 01:08:10.250 --> 01:08:13.329 the guy, yeah, who I think should play the G 01:08:13.329 --> 01:08:15.610 -Man in Half -Life 2 adaption if they ever made 01:08:15.610 --> 01:08:17.970 it into a show. Oh, Scanners was one of his as 01:08:17.970 --> 01:08:20.989 well. I forgot how good. I love Scanners. Oh, 01:08:21.189 --> 01:08:23.970 he's got some really, really fucked up films 01:08:23.970 --> 01:08:26.909 and he wrote some really, really weird stuff 01:08:26.909 --> 01:08:30.770 as well. So, yeah, that's it. We're going to 01:08:30.770 --> 01:08:35.430 be watching the 1999 completely insane, wonderful 01:08:35.430 --> 01:08:57.539 Existence. Brilliant. Great choice. So you have 01:08:57.539 --> 01:08:59.039 been listening to another episode of the Untitled 01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:02.760 Sci -Fi Show. You can find us on Flipping Everything. 01:09:02.859 --> 01:09:06.909 Just go to channel84 .co .uk. Find all the socials 01:09:06.909 --> 01:09:09.229 on there. 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