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I am Andrew Ryan, and I'm here to ask you a question.

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Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

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I know what you're thinking, and it's crazy.

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So, stay here. Shepard, you're dead. I got better.

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The right man in the wrong place can make all

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the difference in the world. He's fucked in the

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head. The world's fucked in the head. And you're

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fucked in the head because my fucked up head

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is inside it. We will send unto them only you.

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Rip and tear. Hello and welcome to Sci -Fi United.

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Oh yes, it's Sci -Fi United, isn't it? It's Sci

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-Fi United now. Yeah. I quite like the name.

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I didn't mind it, to be fair. That's why Ethan

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was really shocked that I didn't fight it. I

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was like, nah, it's actually quite funny. And

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I didn't mind it. I wasn't offended by it. And

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could you imagine the sponsorship possibilities?

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We could have Football Kit made. Sci -Fi United.

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Oh, I love it. Yeah, we can talk more about that

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on the Variety Show. Yeah, maybe we'll insert

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the clip that... paul did for the episode into

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this because yeah we are on the cheap show podcast

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on whatever episode number it is it's called

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cheap show tv part one and we're also on part

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two yeah um spoilers and it's live now so we

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don't get killed off i'll be i'll get rid of

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that yeah well done um either way go and listen

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it was very funny we had a lot of fun doing it

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and yeah yeah anyway this is the untitled sci

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-fi show Welcome. So, first things first. Whenever

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I say things, I was like, first things first,

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I'm the realist. I don't remember what song that

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is. It's some kind of rappy thing. Where's Simon?

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He'll probably know just from that little lyric.

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Is it Garage? On this instance, I don't know.

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We haven't done that joke for a long time, by

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the way. Oh, damn it. I spilt my coffee. I wasn't

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expecting you dickheads to need me this early.

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It's Iggy Azalea, you uncultured swine. Stop,

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stop, stop. Copyright, you bloody idiot. Jesus.

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No professionalism. So, the, guess the intro.

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It is. Do you remember anything about it? I went

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back and I made sure I found my text. I sent

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you with all my answers. Yes, because spoilers,

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everyone. He got them all right. Yes, I did.

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And no one else did. So I did have people actually

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wrote in this time. People actually listened

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to me last time when I complained. I was going

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to say, I do think as much as we enjoyed Electric

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State, I think it got such a bad rap. And I think

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so many people are disliking of Chris Pratt now.

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I think a lot of people avoided it, which is

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a shame because I really enjoyed it. I thought

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it was great. I think it was really good, but

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I do think that would explain why maybe that

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episode, although weirdly then, the episode with

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the least amount of views at this point has had

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the most answers for the guest of the intro.

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Yeah, probably. Well, I had three. people other

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than you have voiced an opinion on what the answers

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are so because that's um spoilers for everyone

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a third of the people that listen to the episode

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is the worst performing episode of any of the

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of any of our shows ever that is the worst performing

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one all i can think is people have honestly just

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gone and said right we heard the electric states

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crap so we're not going to watch it which i think

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is really unfair because i thought it was really

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good It'll be a forever blip on the slowly, steadily

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increasing bar chart. It's a very sudden cliffhanger

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drop. Well, I'm going to put that down to it's

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the Easter holidays. Well, let's hope so. Do

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you mind pressing pause for a moment? It would

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if I could remember where pause was. Really?

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We are only three minutes into this shit and

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I'm here for a second time? Right, okay, pause.

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Oh, yes, I'm making you wait. If I have to suffer

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through the silence, so do you. OK, that's enough.

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Let's play. I said thank you after he paused.

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Thank you. That's very well. You're very welcome.

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We've got new mics. We're fiddling with stuff.

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I famously talk very quietly. Just my voice in

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general is just... I must just be quiet. Yeah,

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you have got a gentle voice compared to my horrendous

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noisy one, so... Yeah. He's having the moment

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over there. I was trying not to burp down the

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mic because I've got a feeling that as bad as

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the burp sounded on the old mics, I've got a

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feeling it might sound even worse on these to

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you. In high def. Like the... And one last thing

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about the chip show thing was I noticed when

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we were, he's like, who are the quietest two

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people? Me and Sean went and sat in the quiet

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seats. And then he was like, oh, everyone had

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to count to 20. Did a little bit of fiddling

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in everyone's dolls. My one ramped the gain right

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up, which must have driven him mad because I

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was sat directly next to Eli, who is actually

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quite loud. Yes. There must have been so much

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bleed from him onto my mic. I don't know. I don't

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know. I haven't listened to it. Don't forget,

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Paul is a professional. But he knows what he's

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doing. Unlike me, who has been trying to learn

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this system, it would probably benefit me not

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to have just gone and got us something super

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complicated. We could have just gone with it.

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But there you go. No, but this thing is crazy

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sexy. Anyway, right. So let me get this started.

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So guess the intro. Guess the intro. Number seven

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it was. Was it now? The quickest way to end a

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miracle. to ask it why it is or what it wants.

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Anal. Oh, sorry, what it wants. Batteries not

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included. What it wants is batteries not included.

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Great, great film. And I can imagine it makes

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a fair few people emotional. Especially when

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he saves the little one. Yeah, it's one of those

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few films that is quite sad. Bicentennial Man

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is a sci -fi film that I cry to every single

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time. Yeah. Funny enough, Gem likes Bicentennial

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Man. I'd never seen it. She's a really big fan

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of Robin Williams anyway. And I hadn't ever seen

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it until fairly recently. And I thought it was

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a very moving, very clever film. Yeah, it's quite

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long. It's nearly three hours. It is a long old

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film. And they always put it on super late. Of

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course. Which is really frustrating. Because

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as soon as Miranda and I see it, we'll watch

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it. And then that's one o 'clock in the morning

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and get to bed. I don't know why they put it

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on so late. It's because they're arseholes. Yeah.

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Anyway, next. So that was a nice simple one.

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That is Alien 3 and that's good old Sigourney

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Weaver. She's got such a very defined voice.

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I don't think anyone would have had trouble with

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that one. If you're listening to a sci -fi podcast,

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you know what happens in Alien 3. 100%. Now,

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that one's a little bit harder. That was Pitch

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Black. Now, I've got a lot of love for Pitch

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Black. I absolutely adore Pitch Black. It's a

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great film. It's a really good film, and it's

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actually probably one of Vin Diesel's better

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films. And let's face it, he's done some crap

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ones. The Pacifier, to start with, the Disney

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film. All of those car films? Not all. I like

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the very first film. From Tokyo Drift onwards.

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So Tokyo Drift is the last good one. Yeah, one,

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two and three are my favourites. I wouldn't touch

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anything else. Everything afterwards has just

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been abject failure. Although I would say I've

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got a little bit of cheesy love for Hobbs and

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Shaw. I haven't seen that one. That one I was

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excited to actually watch and I haven't seen

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it. You should. It's a piss take. It's just lots

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and lots of action. It's Statham and The Rock

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being what they are. Oh, I think Idris Elba's

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in it as well, actually, yeah. It's a good cast,

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it's a good action film, a lot of fun. It's well

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worth watching, but as for the other Fast and

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the Furious films, yeah, one, two, three, then

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just stop watching. I think... That one was a

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little easy because... I purposely made it easy,

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yeah. It had to be a little easy, but the fact

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that it says Galactica at the very beginning,

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so Battlestar Galactica, original series. Well,

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it's for the fact that the week before, no one

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entered. So I was like, I've got to make it so

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actually somebody can actually guess them all.

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Fair enough. Who's gravitational pull? What do

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we do? We die. Funnily enough, this was one that

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took me a little bit long because I don't think

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I've really watched this more than maybe twice

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in my life, and it's The Last Starfighter. I

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actually have never seen it. Oh, it's... So I

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have no idea if that's a good quote from it.

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No, you know what? I don't think I could tell

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you if that was a good quote from it or not.

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All I can tell you is it is a quote from it.

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Yeah, it's one of those films. It's good fun,

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but I never seem to want to seek it out, unlike

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some other, like, 80s films. Things like... Fly

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to the Navigator. I would seek that one out non

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-stop because it's bloody brilliant. I got given

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that as a gift. Did you give it to me on DVD?

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Not me. Someone gave it to me on DVD as a gift

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fairly recently. That was a good choice of film.

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It's bloody brilliant. You are a user. And everything

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you've done has been according to a plan, right?

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You wish. You are a user. Tron. That's what I

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was hoping people would spot that bit. Other

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than the actors, obviously. So Tron, again, top,

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top film. Weirdly, do you know, the first time

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I ever watched Tron was thanks to Rammish. What,

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did you go round his house? No, it was when he

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used to rent out videos. Oh, you rented it from

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him. I went in there and I said, Rammish, I really

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like sci -fi films. What films do you recommend?

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This was Rammisch, bless him. He wasn't going

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to be able to tell me a good sci -fi film. He

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might have been a superstar sci -fi fan for a

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while. But he said, oh, this one's really popular

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and just gave me Tron. Took it home, blown away

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by it. And what always makes me laugh is just

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on the right here on my shelves, I've got a Tomy

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-tronic somewhere, the red shield -looking device

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that you hold up to your eyes. Here it is, a

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Tomy -tronic 3D. And I swear that either one

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or the other was based off it because the ships

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in that look like the ships that they bring in

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that start hunting them down. The weird leg things.

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Yeah, the weird leg things. They're like kind

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of giant upside down U's. Yeah. And that's exactly

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what that Tomy -tronic game is. You're playing

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a tank, blowing them out the sky. Oh, cool. So

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well done. Shout out to... My co -host here,

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Tom. Well done, Tom. You can find him on the

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Variety Show podcast. Everywhere that you look,

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I'm there. So I've got some fun ones coming up.

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So I went and sat down yesterday and planned

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out the next few. So the next one is all computer

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games. Okay. They're all going to be computer

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games. I'm hoping I can get quotes for them.

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If not, it'll be an iconic sound effect that

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you will clearly know from the game. Because

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the games I've chosen... If you're into even

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remotely gaming, you will know every single one.

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Nice. Oh, I'm looking forward to that. And then

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after that, it's all 80s. So only 80s sci -fi

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is the one after that. And then the two after

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that are 90s. Then it'll be two lots of 90s sci

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-fi. There you go. But anyway, next time it is...

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Well, you would have heard at the start of this

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one. The start of this episode. They were all

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games. I haven't made it yet. Thanks a lot, you

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shit - So what you been doing, watching, saying,

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slaying? Slaying! Yeah mate, innit bruv, I was

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like proper slay the other night, innit? I was

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more being California girl. Oh. Then young. Now

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I've got the tits for it, but just leave it alone,

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will you? It's just not nice. You've got the

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hair for it. You've got beautiful light -coloured

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hair. It used to be ginger. Now it's just grey

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and strawberry blonde. Your beard's still ginger.

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Yeah, go on, rub it in a bit more. You're luscious.

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You can't win, you dick. Anyway. Your balls.

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What colour are your balls? Wouldn't you like

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to know? That's what I'm asking. They call it

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the Duracell. Gross. Yep. Right. I have, gaming

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-wise, not done much. Because it's full of disease

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and has lots of children. Oh. The whispering's

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working. Right. Gaming. Literally, after we chatted

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about it a few weeks ago, I said I wanted to

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play Katamari because I never got around to playing.

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Katamari Demancy. Yep. Literally, the week after

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I think we said that, I checked App Store, checked

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good old Apple Arcade. And it just flagged up

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Katamara Dimassery, whatever it's called, released

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next week. Nice. So it's a mobile version for

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Apple Arcade users, along with Rollercoaster

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Tycoon Classic. On the phone? On the phone. Well,

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that must be awkward. I haven't downloaded it.

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I was wondering, I might do it for, because Apple

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Arcade spans to the MacBook. Oh, then that'll

00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:34.799
be okay then. That might be quite cool on the

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MacBook, but it will still just be a touch version

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that you've got mouse controls for. But I'll

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have a play with that. So those are the games

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I've been playing. I haven't played anything

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on the Xbox. You know what? I haven't played

00:14:45.740 --> 00:14:49.480
on my Legion Go for about three weeks. But there's

00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:51.379
a lot going on here. So that's neither here nor

00:14:51.379 --> 00:14:53.779
there. Sci -fi -wise, and I guess that's what

00:14:53.779 --> 00:14:57.059
most people want to hear, Doctor Who, but not

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the new stuff. And Biffo was somewhat putting

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me off wanting to watch the new stuff. But this

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all ties in with what I said last week, where

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if something captures you, you either binge watch

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it or you go, oh, right, new episode out. I must,

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must, must go and watch it. And the last season

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of Doctor Who, as much as I enjoyed a lot of

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the episodes, I felt absolutely no inclination

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as soon as I'd missed one to go back and catch

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up on it. So I missed the two last episodes.

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In fact, the last episode I watched was the evil

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fairy thing that was chasing after what's -her

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-face that ends up in the football stadium and

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was just a massive anti -climax. We actually

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spoke about it, didn't we? We did. That was my

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last episode of Doctor Who modern that I've watched.

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Now, I've gone back onto Y Player and they've

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got all the Doctor Who. They've got classic Who

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on there. They've got the... new, modern, not

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new Doctor Who. So I've just started with David

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Tennant again as I've watched the Christopher

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Eccleston ones fairly recently. Still love him

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to bits. And I fancied a better Tennant. Who

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wouldn't? I bet he's hungry. Well, that's what

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she called him. That's actually true that she

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called him that. Her nickname for him was Tennant.

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All righty then. So now I'm just making my way

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through the Tennant era until I get to Matt Smith

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and I'll go through the Matt Smith era. Don't

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think I'll bother with anything afterwards because

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honestly, wasn't blown away with any of it. I

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mean, we've spoken about the Jodie Whittaker

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era before. Poor stories, poorly written. Felt

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more like it was trying to give you an education

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or a lesson in something than actually just them

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being fun. Oh God, who was Peter Capaldi? Didn't

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mind it until they made him blind. And I just

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thought, no, this is just bloody stupid. He's

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blind with sonic sunglasses on. No, there's a

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limit and you've crossed it now. So as much as

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I liked Capaldi as the Doctor, it didn't gel

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with me. Great actor. Don't think it was the

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right choice in the end. He would have been a

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better Doctor if it was Torchwood. If it was

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Torchwood, yes, or if he was playing the Master.

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Yeah. He would have been a better bad guy. No,

00:17:16.869 --> 00:17:19.049
you're right, a better bad guy. Or if it was

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all rated 12. Do you know what I mean? He would

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have been a better grown -up Doctor rather than...

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Because Doctor Who is a kid's show. This is what

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we were discussing, though, and I kind of feel

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that... Doctor Who was the family show. That's

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what I mean. You could watch it as a family.

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You had the Sarah Jane Adventures, which was

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the kid version. Then you had the Torchwood,

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which was the after dark. And it shouldn't change.

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And then the more that I'm seeing of this new

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Doctor Who, it doesn't know what it wants to

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be. One minute it wants to be all funny and kids.

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Next minute it's quite dark. It doesn't know

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where it wants to be. And I think what was a

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really interesting comment, which... I know was

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made in a complete homophobic and hate -filled

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way, but without using it in that way, I do kind

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of get their point. The Doctor we've grown up

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with, even the classic Doctor, was a man you

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did not want to fuck off. Because if you upset

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him... the whole of time was brought down against

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you. And you could take that back to John Pertwee,

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Tom Baker, all of that era of doctors. Tennant,

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Eccleston, Matt Smith. Matt Smith, I thought,

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no, this isn't going to be a good doctor. Then

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I saw him be as if, oh my God, someone just hurt

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Karen Gillan. And wow. Yeah, Matt Smith was great

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at that. Just full stop. And I didn't realise

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how good an actor he was until I saw that. And

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now I've seen him in other things. It's like,

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holy shit, you're a good doctor. You should watch

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him in Game of Thrones. He is such a good dickhead.

00:18:55.299 --> 00:18:58.220
Yeah. And again, Capaldi, really good. Jodie

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Whittaker, I didn't get that from. And then this

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new doctor and this comment I was saying is basically...

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I don't think I like the fact that the Doctor

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almost cries in every fucking episode. I don't

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think I've seen the Doctor be that powerhouse

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that we've had with every other Doctor. I don't

00:19:16.630 --> 00:19:20.670
get the point. I don't feel like this new Doctor

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has the ability to just drop the hammer and go,

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oh no, you've gone too far now. Now you're going

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to see the side that the Time War saw. which

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is what you've got with every other Doctor. And

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I know they're trying to recreate. I know they're

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trying to make something new. And without doing

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it in the stereotypical hatred -wise that everyone

00:19:39.099 --> 00:19:42.779
else is doing, he just doesn't feel like the

00:19:42.779 --> 00:19:44.940
Doctor to me still. There's just something not

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about... He's fun. I love the character. I love

00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:53.099
the glam. I love the out there of him. But to

00:19:53.099 --> 00:19:55.339
me, he still doesn't just quite feel like the

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Doctor because he doesn't have that same energy.

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It's nothing to do with... gender stereotypes,

00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:05.319
sex stereotypes, all of that. He doesn't seem

00:20:05.319 --> 00:20:10.279
to have the Doctor energy. Yeah. I really liked

00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:14.859
the very little glimpse we got of the War Doctor.

00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:18.000
Yes, John Hurt. John Hurt. That would have been

00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.599
a great one if they could explore. I mean, that's

00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.019
a massive actor, so probably couldn't get into

00:20:22.019 --> 00:20:24.859
it. They all are now, but to get John Hurt to

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come in onto this random... pbc show but actually

00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:31.059
well don't forget he's dead so wasn't he the

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voice of the dragon actually in merlin he's yeah

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but he wasn't dead at the time no no but he's

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done all sorts of things for them to bring him

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in as the war doctor again was a brilliant brilliant

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choice um but i know i stand by my comments every

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doctor has had a dark side that they've brought

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to the screen in their own way up until the Whittaker.

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Capaldi did to an extent, but his was more, he

00:21:02.299 --> 00:21:05.000
seemed, he didn't play it in kind of a snap.

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It wasn't like the ten and the smiths of the

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world. It was all happy and airy and then boom,

00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.059
just with a snap of their fingers. It's a complete

00:21:15.059 --> 00:21:18.359
change of character. Capaldi was on one level

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and it was like, I'm putting up with you. I'm

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going to kill you sort of thing. It was just

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kind of. one level for him and it just slightly

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moved to the left or the right of that level

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whereas the others had a clear -cut personality

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change i think i don't care if i upset anyone

00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:40.680
with this really i've liked all of them i think

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the only problem like jodie whittaker's ones

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it's not it's not because she was a woman i actually

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was quite happy for that i what i saw of her

00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:55.880
acting in doctor who i liked i thought she was

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good and i was looking really looking forward

00:21:57.799 --> 00:21:59.900
to seeing where she'd go with it the writing

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was fucking dreadful i'm sorry but i don't need

00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:08.660
a social lesson on every single fucking episode

00:22:08.660 --> 00:22:11.819
and it wasn't the thing is it wasn't subtle you

00:22:11.819 --> 00:22:14.259
can do it wonderfully and subtly like they had

00:22:14.259 --> 00:22:16.359
already been doing through all the doctor who's

00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:20.720
already All through Tenon and even Torchwood,

00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:25.220
all the lessons were already there and it all

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worked and it was still remembering what it was

00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:30.539
ahead of time. First and foremost, it was a fun

00:22:30.539 --> 00:22:33.740
family sci -fi show. They lost that. They completely

00:22:33.740 --> 00:22:41.519
lost. And I feel sorry that she was the person

00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:45.839
they were using as the figurehead of that shit

00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:48.670
writing. That basically, that's what I think

00:22:48.670 --> 00:22:52.430
it is. I think it was just shit. No, 100 % agree.

00:22:52.730 --> 00:22:57.230
She got used as a pawn in a game that she really

00:22:57.230 --> 00:23:00.910
deserved better. I'd love to see her come back

00:23:00.910 --> 00:23:03.930
and just not have that. No, and I think a female

00:23:03.930 --> 00:23:07.329
doctor was absolutely the right way to go because

00:23:07.329 --> 00:23:10.710
it gave a completely new dynamic to something

00:23:10.710 --> 00:23:15.539
that was feeling overly familiar already. I know

00:23:15.539 --> 00:23:19.500
we'd been going since, what was it, 2005? I'm

00:23:19.500 --> 00:23:22.519
not sure. It was somewhere around there, maybe

00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:24.380
a little bit earlier actually than that. Maybe

00:23:24.380 --> 00:23:27.940
it was about 2001, 2002, the new Doctor Who.

00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:34.140
Yeah. So we've only had 23 years of it, and there's

00:23:34.140 --> 00:23:38.440
been a big gap in that again, remember? But they'd

00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:39.920
already got to the point that's like, no, this

00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:42.279
is just the same stuff over and over again, isn't

00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:44.599
it? So they could have had that. I know that.

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And that's what they're trying to do now with

00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:48.799
this, with Nkuti. I can't think of his whole

00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:50.240
name, I'm afraid. I don't know how to pronounce

00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.799
it. It's Nshuti, I think it is. And that's my

00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:56.900
fault for not knowing. But they're trying to

00:23:56.900 --> 00:24:00.670
do the fresh start now. And I think it's a little

00:24:00.670 --> 00:24:02.470
bit late. And I think the biggest thing, the

00:24:02.470 --> 00:24:04.190
biggest nail in the coffin, I know we've been

00:24:04.190 --> 00:24:06.049
talking about this for too long, so I'll keep

00:24:06.049 --> 00:24:09.130
this short. The biggest nail in the coffin was

00:24:09.130 --> 00:24:12.650
reintroducing David Tennant in that first episode

00:24:12.650 --> 00:24:14.910
of the Christmas episode they did. And then letting

00:24:14.910 --> 00:24:17.930
David Tennant have his own episode because the

00:24:17.930 --> 00:24:20.769
whole world basically just saw the doctor that

00:24:20.769 --> 00:24:24.750
a lot of people fell in love with and went, you

00:24:24.750 --> 00:24:27.319
brought him back. Can we not just have more of

00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:29.940
him now? Maybe I'll end up bleeping this out

00:24:29.940 --> 00:24:31.579
because now you've got your two doctors. You've

00:24:31.579 --> 00:24:33.559
got the agenda doctor and you've got the fun

00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.119
that you want to actually watch. Who do you want

00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.279
to pick? Are you going to school or are you going

00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:43.119
to go and have fun? Yeah, and I mean, I don't

00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:47.220
feel like they are doing what they did to Whittaker.

00:24:47.339 --> 00:24:49.279
You're right. No, I don't think they are doing

00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:51.630
to him what they did to her. And I think they

00:24:51.630 --> 00:24:53.750
did really well. But things like the Christmas

00:24:53.750 --> 00:24:56.630
episode with the Goblin King, that was such fun.

00:24:57.849 --> 00:25:00.950
And again, even though it was the poor ending,

00:25:01.470 --> 00:25:04.430
when they break the fairy ring in that episode,

00:25:04.750 --> 00:25:08.390
it's a great dark episode. It's actually really

00:25:08.390 --> 00:25:11.990
good. It's just a disappointing climax, which

00:25:11.990 --> 00:25:15.529
unfortunately has been going on for a long time

00:25:15.529 --> 00:25:21.289
now. And I don't see it going away. I guess I

00:25:21.289 --> 00:25:23.230
haven't actually said it yet. I enjoyed all of

00:25:23.230 --> 00:25:25.710
his episodes. That's the first season that he's

00:25:25.710 --> 00:25:28.829
done. I enjoyed them. I ended it thinking, this

00:25:28.829 --> 00:25:30.869
is great. I'm looking forward to season two.

00:25:32.109 --> 00:25:34.369
So I never had that with Jodie Whittaker, unfortunately.

00:25:34.809 --> 00:25:38.250
No, but my point is, have you watched any of

00:25:38.250 --> 00:25:42.369
the new season yet? No. Need I say more? I didn't

00:25:42.369 --> 00:25:44.549
actually even know it was out until it was out.

00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:47.720
Exactly. So part of me thinks, has the BBC just

00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.559
started counting their losses so it's not been

00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.539
advertised as much? And the other part of me

00:25:52.539 --> 00:25:56.279
just thinks, well, I didn't know it came out

00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:59.059
because I've got no interest in it anymore. Now,

00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:00.779
if that had been Tenant, and it's like a new

00:26:00.779 --> 00:26:04.059
series of Tenant, like that TikTok April Fools

00:26:04.059 --> 00:26:06.000
that I sent you. Yeah, which was gutting. How

00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.480
excited did everyone get? New series of Torchwood,

00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.380
fucking finally. New series of Doctor Who with

00:26:11.380 --> 00:26:14.099
Tenant back in there. Brilliant. Oh, by the way,

00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:20.059
it's April Fools. Fuck you. Yeah. Slightly foreshadowing

00:26:20.059 --> 00:26:22.339
what we might be doing on the next episode. Yeah,

00:26:22.339 --> 00:26:24.299
but you know what? It might be really, really

00:26:24.299 --> 00:26:27.619
good. Well, we'll find out, won't we? Be well.

00:26:29.579 --> 00:26:33.119
Be fucked. So what have I been doing? Yeah, what

00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:35.400
have you been doing? I've got quite a lot, actually.

00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:37.960
Finishing everything, which is a bit disappointing.

00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:42.200
So we finished Reacher. Wicked. Can't talk about

00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:43.960
it because you haven't finished it yet. I still

00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:45.619
haven't finished season one, which I'm really

00:26:45.619 --> 00:26:48.039
pissed off about because that's not down to just

00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:53.099
it being, it's okay. I'm loving it. I just haven't

00:26:53.099 --> 00:26:56.779
had a chance and so much has come in and we always

00:26:56.779 --> 00:26:58.579
have our dedicated thing we've got to watch for

00:26:58.579 --> 00:27:00.500
this. So that then takes precedence and then

00:27:00.500 --> 00:27:02.200
it's just like, well, I've got no more time.

00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.759
So I'm still not quite through season one. I

00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:07.480
think I've only got an episode left. You're watching

00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.759
it with Gem? No, no, no, on my own. That's the

00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:13.470
worst case. So yeah, we finished Reacher. really

00:27:13.470 --> 00:27:15.549
really really good brilliant i can't wait for

00:27:15.549 --> 00:27:17.829
you to have watched them all and caught up yeah

00:27:17.829 --> 00:27:21.730
sexy uh wheel of time we just finished wheel

00:27:21.730 --> 00:27:25.670
of time season three yeah whatever the most recent

00:27:25.670 --> 00:27:29.609
one is really good i after me slagging it off

00:27:29.609 --> 00:27:33.690
saying it was just teenage girl bullshit nonsense

00:27:33.690 --> 00:27:36.849
actually it was really good i think the lowest

00:27:36.849 --> 00:27:39.930
point of all of it is season two and the reason

00:27:39.930 --> 00:27:43.589
i think there's a trend you you tell me what

00:27:43.589 --> 00:27:47.809
you think season ones of shows they've got to

00:27:47.809 --> 00:27:50.529
go hard yeah because they want to bag those other

00:27:50.529 --> 00:27:53.630
seasons and they don't just give you one extra

00:27:53.630 --> 00:27:57.210
season they give you a few they go okay so you've

00:27:57.210 --> 00:27:59.990
done one give us two more give us you will now

00:27:59.990 --> 00:28:02.710
sign you up to go to season four stretch this

00:28:02.710 --> 00:28:05.250
out season four so they use the second season

00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:11.740
to build plot build this ongoing story which

00:28:11.740 --> 00:28:15.940
they can then roll on for more seasons. And normally

00:28:15.940 --> 00:28:18.619
that can be a good thing. In my opinion, in Wheel

00:28:18.619 --> 00:28:21.420
of Time, it was a bad thing. Right. And I found

00:28:21.420 --> 00:28:25.279
it quite boring until right at the end. And then

00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.759
with season three, it was pretty good all the

00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.079
way through. Brilliant in the last two or three

00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.880
episodes. Like, really, really good in the last

00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:34.299
few episodes. I was like, can we watch Wheel

00:28:34.299 --> 00:28:37.519
of Time? Can we watch Wheel of Time? So, yeah.

00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:40.750
Season two, a little bit of a low point. because

00:28:40.750 --> 00:28:42.950
it came off a really good ending to season one.

00:28:43.410 --> 00:28:45.930
And then, yeah, season three definitely saved

00:28:45.930 --> 00:28:49.369
it for me. Right. Well, that makes sense. That's

00:28:49.369 --> 00:28:54.930
Wheel of Time. Daredevil. Wow. Oh, my gosh. Daredevil.

00:28:55.650 --> 00:29:01.910
So this is the now Disney have it. And it's a

00:29:01.910 --> 00:29:07.150
soft reboot, but not a reboot. So have you seen

00:29:07.150 --> 00:29:10.599
any of the Daredevils? No. I genuinely think

00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:13.500
you could go into this and not needing to have

00:29:13.500 --> 00:29:17.140
actually seen them. All you need to know are

00:29:17.140 --> 00:29:23.079
the kind of, what's the words I'm looking for,

00:29:23.220 --> 00:29:26.180
how the characters connect. Not so much what's

00:29:26.180 --> 00:29:29.599
happened before, but more just how they all connect

00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.779
together. Who Foggy Nelson is his partner in

00:29:33.779 --> 00:29:39.059
his being a lawyer, law firm. That's about as

00:29:39.059 --> 00:29:41.259
much as you need to know about Foggy. Okay. And

00:29:41.259 --> 00:29:42.799
then there's another girl that works with him

00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:44.579
or used to work with him. There's a few little

00:29:44.579 --> 00:29:46.799
things. Frank Castle. You just need to know he's

00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.140
the Punisher. That's all you need to know. Even

00:29:49.140 --> 00:29:51.079
though he's had two seasons of his own show.

00:29:51.700 --> 00:29:54.480
None of that. It's almost to a point where actually

00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.579
you might be better off if you haven't watched

00:29:56.579 --> 00:29:59.259
any of his. Because I'm sure the way that...

00:29:59.259 --> 00:30:01.519
They're really good, by the way. The Punisher

00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:05.000
series. The way that... Do you want me to pause

00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:09.680
it? Hang on a moment. Seriously, this is just

00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:19.240
getting out of hand. Fuck! What now? Oh. Uh -huh.

00:30:20.940 --> 00:30:25.240
Okay, yes, understood. Okay, sorry about that.

00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:28.240
That was the chipmunk. Apparently there are things

00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:30.539
happening with children in the Tom household.

00:30:30.859 --> 00:30:35.269
I do apologize. Everything is fine. I've been

00:30:35.269 --> 00:30:37.690
told to shut the fuck up and just get on with

00:30:37.690 --> 00:30:43.190
it. So, um... Well, yes. I don't want to upset

00:30:43.190 --> 00:30:47.829
that fuzzy ball of... fun. Right, sorry about

00:30:47.829 --> 00:30:50.789
that. Slight interlude. Where was I? Frank Castle.

00:30:51.500 --> 00:30:53.519
Yeah, so he's the Punisher. He's had his couple

00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.200
of seasons. Yeah, but just the way all the things

00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.920
are really big character building moments really

00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:04.079
define his character in such a way in those two

00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.059
seasons. I'm trying to remember how it ended,

00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.619
but I kind of feel like he ended almost kind

00:31:10.619 --> 00:31:14.160
of like a bit more mellow. Well, he's straight

00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.859
into this as a fucking hard man. And they've

00:31:16.859 --> 00:31:18.799
also, what they've done, surprising for Disney,

00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.720
up the blood factor. Wow, people are getting

00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:25.119
their throats slashed, heads crushed. You know,

00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:27.740
I don't think Disney actually have that bad an

00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:29.920
issue with that. They're not like, let's say,

00:31:29.940 --> 00:31:32.380
Nintendo through the 80s and 90s, where, ooh,

00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.039
you want a game with blood? No, it's got to be

00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.640
green. Whereas I think that Disney are more like

00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:39.940
the Mega Drive side of things. We don't mind

00:31:39.940 --> 00:31:43.680
blood, but it has to be required. And I think,

00:31:43.700 --> 00:31:46.099
yeah, when it comes to Disney films, and because

00:31:46.099 --> 00:31:49.079
they've got things like... oh i've gone what

00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.359
their adult selection films are called on disney

00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:55.059
now star star that's it yeah um and the humor

00:31:55.059 --> 00:31:56.599
that they're putting on their things like family

00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:58.400
guy i don't think they're actually that fussy

00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:00.779
about it anymore i don't think they could have

00:32:00.779 --> 00:32:03.240
taken on daredevil and then fitted it into their

00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.880
marvel universe in the way that they've kiddified

00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.410
them their marvel universe you know it maybe

00:32:10.410 --> 00:32:12.150
it's getting a little bit more ground. I mean,

00:32:12.150 --> 00:32:13.470
I'm so out of touch with it. How the fucking

00:32:13.470 --> 00:32:15.670
hell do I know? What do I know? You know, I'm

00:32:15.670 --> 00:32:17.650
still thinking about Iron Man one, you know,

00:32:17.650 --> 00:32:21.269
it's, you know, I know that the daredevil was

00:32:21.269 --> 00:32:23.730
in one of the recent Spider -Man films in like

00:32:23.730 --> 00:32:26.450
an end credit scene. I didn't realise he's Spider

00:32:26.450 --> 00:32:31.190
-Man's lawyer. Yeah. Yeah. But it's so, what

00:32:31.190 --> 00:32:34.150
I was saying about daredevil is I think you probably

00:32:34.150 --> 00:32:36.890
could get away with not really needing to have

00:32:36.890 --> 00:32:40.059
watched the others and that it feels like, almost

00:32:40.059 --> 00:32:44.079
like an origin story again yeah but not still

00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.180
just an origin story of 10 years later or five

00:32:47.180 --> 00:32:49.420
years later or whatever from when all the netflix

00:32:49.420 --> 00:32:53.140
ones is and that's not necessarily a bad thing

00:32:53.140 --> 00:32:57.299
but the really fucking cool stuff doesn't happen

00:32:57.299 --> 00:33:00.480
until the last two episodes right okay that makes

00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.000
sense there is some fighting in it but not every

00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.400
episode there's some episodes where no one fights

00:33:05.819 --> 00:33:08.440
And this is a superhero series, you know, with

00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.920
Daredevil, who in the other seasons was fighting

00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.279
all the fucking time. But when there's fighting,

00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.779
holy shit, it's brilliant. And when Frank Castle's

00:33:16.779 --> 00:33:19.880
in it, in the, like, spoilers, when he's fighting

00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.579
in the last episode, wow. Just like, I cannot

00:33:23.579 --> 00:33:25.900
wait for the next season. You see, I'm kind of

00:33:25.900 --> 00:33:28.970
getting the idea now. Disney... are doing a better

00:33:28.970 --> 00:33:31.390
job on the TV series that they're producing for

00:33:31.390 --> 00:33:34.049
Marvel than they are the films. Because, sorry

00:33:34.049 --> 00:33:35.829
to interrupt you, they're giving it room to breathe.

00:33:36.190 --> 00:33:38.970
Yes. They're developing characters. They're doing

00:33:38.970 --> 00:33:41.009
stuff. They're feeling like they're actually

00:33:41.009 --> 00:33:43.150
able to do exposition without thinking we're

00:33:43.150 --> 00:33:45.849
boring the audience. So whereas, let's say, you're

00:33:45.849 --> 00:33:47.529
going to do an Iron Man film, you know you've

00:33:47.529 --> 00:33:50.069
got to keep it below two hours. As much as a

00:33:50.069 --> 00:33:51.789
lot of modern films are pushing for that two

00:33:51.789 --> 00:33:55.250
hour or two hour plus mark now, they know that...

00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:58.319
and this sounds really bad, but the general Marvel

00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.299
audience are not going to put up with a film

00:34:01.299 --> 00:34:03.940
much past one and a half hours. So they've got

00:34:03.940 --> 00:34:07.599
to fit in story, action, Iron Man being Iron

00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:09.780
Man within that time period. Whereas if they

00:34:09.780 --> 00:34:13.050
move to a TV series... Even if they only do six

00:34:13.050 --> 00:34:14.670
episodes, those episodes are going to be, what,

00:34:14.690 --> 00:34:18.170
45 -minute long episodes? They can fit in a lot

00:34:18.170 --> 00:34:20.389
of exposition, which doesn't mean they have to

00:34:20.389 --> 00:34:22.550
just fill it full of fighting, fighting, fighting,

00:34:22.730 --> 00:34:25.630
which I think is a big benefit to a TV show.

00:34:25.750 --> 00:34:28.889
Not everyone wants just to see the shit being

00:34:28.889 --> 00:34:31.570
beaten out of people. Yes, it's nice to see sometimes,

00:34:31.690 --> 00:34:33.389
but sometimes it's actually nice to actually

00:34:33.389 --> 00:34:38.849
feel like you aren't just following a creation.

00:34:38.869 --> 00:34:40.730
You aren't just following a character. You're

00:34:40.730 --> 00:34:43.280
actually... feeling like they're not part of

00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.360
your family, but within your friendship group.

00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.739
It's like, I want to know more about this character.

00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.300
And that's what Reacher's done so well. Every

00:34:50.300 --> 00:34:52.699
episode of Reacher I've seen, especially in the

00:34:52.699 --> 00:34:55.460
first season, you want to go know more about

00:34:55.460 --> 00:34:58.139
the female police. You want to know more about

00:34:58.139 --> 00:35:00.780
the New York copper. You want to know more about

00:35:00.780 --> 00:35:05.460
Reacher himself. And it just breeds a want to

00:35:05.460 --> 00:35:07.659
carry on watching it. And I think they're doing

00:35:07.659 --> 00:35:11.369
the right thing. Just so we can move ourselves

00:35:11.369 --> 00:35:14.050
along. And Last of Us is now at season two of

00:35:14.050 --> 00:35:16.210
The Last of Us. Yep. So I've watched episode

00:35:16.210 --> 00:35:18.289
one of that. Fair enough. Fucking brilliant.

00:35:18.469 --> 00:35:20.750
So then I played loads of games. It made me then

00:35:20.750 --> 00:35:22.889
want to actually play The Last of Us 2, which

00:35:22.889 --> 00:35:25.949
I've owned for ages. And I only played it for

00:35:25.949 --> 00:35:28.190
like 10 minutes. So now I've started playing

00:35:28.190 --> 00:35:31.210
it again. I think I spent £10 and upgraded my

00:35:31.210 --> 00:35:34.010
PS4 version to the enhanced PS5 one. I thought

00:35:34.010 --> 00:35:39.829
it was worth it for 10 quid. Excuse me. So yeah,

00:35:39.889 --> 00:35:43.630
I've now got as far as the first episode is in

00:35:43.630 --> 00:35:46.469
the game. Whereas I'd played the first one when

00:35:46.469 --> 00:35:49.449
I watched season one. So I knew exactly what

00:35:49.449 --> 00:35:51.210
was going to happen and what they changed. But

00:35:51.210 --> 00:35:52.989
it was so brilliant. I might have spoke to you

00:35:52.989 --> 00:35:54.389
about it on the variety show. Yeah, we have done.

00:35:54.469 --> 00:35:58.269
Absolutely brilliant. I've played, finally played

00:35:58.269 --> 00:35:59.909
that self of Midnight Game. If anyone remembers,

00:36:00.070 --> 00:36:02.190
the few people that listened last week, I was

00:36:02.190 --> 00:36:04.710
really excited to play that. Yes, you were. Ah,

00:36:04.809 --> 00:36:09.510
what a shame. Graphically, love it. Love the

00:36:09.510 --> 00:36:12.130
art style. I actually quite enjoyed the story.

00:36:12.369 --> 00:36:20.730
I loved the location, the kind of weird... It's

00:36:20.730 --> 00:36:23.329
like sitting in the bayou in America and all

00:36:23.329 --> 00:36:26.070
the accents are great, the voice actors are great.

00:36:26.150 --> 00:36:28.409
So many good things about it. The exploration

00:36:28.409 --> 00:36:35.349
is a little bit janky. Like jumps, I feel like

00:36:35.349 --> 00:36:38.159
I'm... about to just run off the other end because

00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:39.639
like the character will kind of stumble a bit

00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:42.300
or want to keep the inertia of your movement

00:36:42.300 --> 00:36:44.980
will send you to the edge. So I've died a lot

00:36:44.980 --> 00:36:47.579
or got hurt in water because she can't swim.

00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:49.880
So as soon as you touch water, you die. Oh, I

00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:53.000
hate that. And it's like, come on, you know,

00:36:53.019 --> 00:36:55.900
give me at least like a little quick stamina

00:36:55.900 --> 00:36:58.679
meter or a reason. Give me a reason why she can't

00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:02.079
swim. So that was a bit annoying. I mean, what's

00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:05.940
the premise of the game? So. You're this girl.

00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.380
You're about to go off to college. There's a

00:37:07.380 --> 00:37:11.019
storm. You're with your mum in your kind of mobile

00:37:11.019 --> 00:37:14.239
home thing. Huge, huge storm. You're packing

00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:15.300
up all your stuff because you're going to go

00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:19.000
to the church and ride out the storm. Yeah. You

00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.099
have an argument with your mum and you go and

00:37:21.099 --> 00:37:23.019
check on some of the neighbours. And in the meantime,

00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:28.019
the storm hits and takes the home away and it

00:37:28.019 --> 00:37:31.510
goes down the river. And you're running. to try

00:37:31.510 --> 00:37:33.190
and catch up with the mob home floating down

00:37:33.190 --> 00:37:36.610
the river but it turns out that you've got you're

00:37:36.610 --> 00:37:38.369
like a descendant because it's a game obviously

00:37:38.369 --> 00:37:40.110
so they've got to add some bullshit you're a

00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:42.289
descendant of this kind of weird people called

00:37:42.289 --> 00:37:45.710
weavers or something and you can control the

00:37:45.710 --> 00:37:48.070
tapestries of time and stuff but it also means

00:37:48.070 --> 00:37:53.170
you commune with these um i guess they're like

00:37:54.669 --> 00:37:58.230
some real kind of lore in real world kind of

00:37:58.230 --> 00:38:00.050
gods or whatever, like there's a big giant talking

00:38:00.050 --> 00:38:02.269
cackfish and all these kind of things. Oh, okay.

00:38:02.710 --> 00:38:06.610
It's all very cool. So the reason I ask is because

00:38:06.610 --> 00:38:09.409
quite often when you talk about games like this,

00:38:09.469 --> 00:38:11.150
and the games that we tend to play tend to be

00:38:11.150 --> 00:38:15.750
somewhat mystery or sci -fi or fantasy. Now,

00:38:15.750 --> 00:38:18.590
I know it sounds like a cheap way to get out,

00:38:18.650 --> 00:38:19.849
but you just say as soon as you touch water,

00:38:19.989 --> 00:38:22.070
there's... bad things under the water that drag

00:38:22.070 --> 00:38:24.329
you under. Even that would be better than just

00:38:24.329 --> 00:38:25.989
saying you can't swim so you're dead. I don't

00:38:25.989 --> 00:38:28.230
think it ever at any point said why you can't

00:38:28.230 --> 00:38:30.949
swim, you just die. Well, you take a chunk of

00:38:30.949 --> 00:38:33.250
your health off and it puts you back to where

00:38:33.250 --> 00:38:35.650
you fell off is actually what it does. That annoys

00:38:35.650 --> 00:38:38.829
me. That's lazy programming in my book. The reason

00:38:38.829 --> 00:38:40.329
I'm not going to continue playing it is because

00:38:40.329 --> 00:38:43.010
I don't like the combat. Right. It's not very

00:38:43.010 --> 00:38:46.210
good. And it's not that I'm bad at it. I am bad.

00:38:46.829 --> 00:38:50.019
But... It doesn't feel nice. It's not smooth.

00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.900
I don't like the moves. Yeah, all the enemies.

00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.659
Like, the way the combat works is it's arenas.

00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:58.980
So you're going, doing exploring, and then you

00:38:58.980 --> 00:39:00.900
can quite clearly see you're about to walk into

00:39:00.900 --> 00:39:02.780
a section where you're going to fight because

00:39:02.780 --> 00:39:06.559
there's loads of weird vines with spikes on.

00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:11.059
What's that called? You know, barbed, really

00:39:11.059 --> 00:39:12.820
thick vines with spikes on. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

00:39:12.820 --> 00:39:15.460
I know what you mean. And there'll be a thing

00:39:15.460 --> 00:39:17.659
in the middle that you have to clear. But you

00:39:17.659 --> 00:39:18.739
can only clear it when you kill the enemies.

00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:20.360
So you know as soon as you step in, the door's

00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:21.719
going to close behind you. You've got to fight

00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.460
anywhere between three and ten enemies. And then

00:39:25.460 --> 00:39:28.860
release the spirit and off you go to the next

00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:31.380
one. I just didn't enjoy it. I've given up with

00:39:31.380 --> 00:39:32.900
it. I'm not going to go back to playing it. I'm

00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:34.880
glad it's on Game Pass. I've got to try it. No,

00:39:34.900 --> 00:39:37.980
fair enough. Game Pass is one of those benefits,

00:39:38.179 --> 00:39:40.260
isn't it? It doesn't cost the world, but it gives

00:39:40.260 --> 00:39:41.960
you a chance to actually play a lot of games

00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:43.460
that you wouldn't necessarily buy because of

00:39:43.460 --> 00:39:47.360
the game prices at the moment. Yeah, I find it

00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:50.340
a big bonus because, for example, I want to play

00:39:50.340 --> 00:39:52.539
the new Sniper Elite. I know that's on Game Pass.

00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.320
I don't care if it disappears off it. Yes, I'd

00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:57.519
like to complete it if I get a chance to, but

00:39:57.519 --> 00:39:59.519
even if I just get a chance to play through four

00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.840
or five levels, I probably will have run out

00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:03.659
of time by that point and not get back to the

00:40:03.659 --> 00:40:06.579
point of completing it in the first place. So

00:40:06.579 --> 00:40:09.840
I don't care if it disappears. Two more last

00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.369
things because I'm rabbiting on. The next game

00:40:12.369 --> 00:40:14.070
I'm waiting to try, which is on Game Pass as

00:40:14.070 --> 00:40:16.429
well, is called Claire Obscure Exhibition 33.

00:40:16.650 --> 00:40:19.329
I've spoken about this before. That comes out,

00:40:19.369 --> 00:40:21.590
I think, on the 25th. So next time we record

00:40:21.590 --> 00:40:25.809
this show, I would have played it. So I can tell

00:40:25.809 --> 00:40:28.369
you a thing about that then. Like I really need

00:40:28.369 --> 00:40:30.650
another ginormous role -playing game to play

00:40:30.650 --> 00:40:33.070
when I haven't finished Final Fantasy yet. And

00:40:33.070 --> 00:40:34.929
then I've played... I've not been very well this

00:40:34.929 --> 00:40:37.630
week. I was off work for three days. And I did

00:40:37.630 --> 00:40:41.090
nothing but play Minecraft for three days. And

00:40:41.090 --> 00:40:43.590
not on the Xbox. It sucked you back in. So cloud

00:40:43.590 --> 00:40:47.610
play on my Steam Deck to the Xbox. Because I,

00:40:47.710 --> 00:40:50.969
long story short, got sinusitis, which is giving

00:40:50.969 --> 00:40:54.489
me vertigo. So I couldn't do anything. Literally

00:40:54.489 --> 00:40:57.050
walking around made me feel sick when it fell

00:40:57.050 --> 00:41:00.670
over. Anyway, no one cares. So I would have the

00:41:00.670 --> 00:41:03.989
TV on YouTube and then cloud playing my Xbox

00:41:03.989 --> 00:41:06.719
to it. So I could kind of do both. I did have

00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:08.320
to say breaks because it was making my eyes go

00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.760
funny. But yeah, my brother -in -law was like,

00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:12.840
you've been playing a lot of Minecraft. I'm like,

00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.760
how do you know? He's like, his app is notifying

00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.820
him every time I'm logging in. And because I'm

00:41:18.820 --> 00:41:20.460
going in and out of the cloud thing, it keeps

00:41:20.460 --> 00:41:22.719
popping up and he's going, Rob has just started

00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:24.699
cloud play. Rob has just started cloud plays

00:41:24.699 --> 00:41:27.880
for three days. Yeah, anyway, that's what I've

00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:29.980
been doing. Lots of stuff. That was nearly 15

00:41:29.980 --> 00:41:32.780
minutes. Okay, very quickly. You've got... You

00:41:32.780 --> 00:41:35.199
joined my Apple family. I know it's a bit cheeky

00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.119
to do like that. Yeah, you joined my Google family.

00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:41.079
I did. Something coming to Apple TV in May is

00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.760
one of the Skarsgård brothers. So we watched

00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:48.280
one of them in Boy Kills World. Yep. Which, that

00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:50.199
was Bill Skarsgård, if I think it was. Who also

00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.659
plays It. Who also plays It, yes. Well, this

00:41:52.659 --> 00:41:57.179
is Alex Skarsgård in a TV series called Murderbot.

00:41:57.880 --> 00:41:59.360
Oh, I like the sound of that. It's based on a

00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:02.630
book series and basically it's a... I believe

00:42:02.630 --> 00:42:05.289
they're security cyborgs that are made up of

00:42:05.289 --> 00:42:07.809
kind of genetic parts. I don't know if they've

00:42:07.809 --> 00:42:09.570
been grown or they're meant to be just kind of

00:42:09.570 --> 00:42:11.489
people that have done that base a little bit

00:42:11.489 --> 00:42:14.449
like Robocop. But the whole point of it is he

00:42:14.449 --> 00:42:17.889
plays this cyborg thing and he's just corrupted

00:42:17.889 --> 00:42:19.949
his own programming and he's just like called

00:42:19.949 --> 00:42:22.489
himself Murderbot. Oh, I like it. And he still

00:42:22.489 --> 00:42:24.110
protects the humans from what you can see in

00:42:24.110 --> 00:42:27.389
the trailer. But is also like, I'm on this planet.

00:42:27.489 --> 00:42:29.429
I'm meant to be protecting them. So far, I've

00:42:29.429 --> 00:42:31.530
watched 500 hours of whatever their equivalent

00:42:31.530 --> 00:42:33.389
of Comedy Central in the future was meant to

00:42:33.389 --> 00:42:35.590
be. They're like, oh, wait, no, I better go and

00:42:35.590 --> 00:42:37.369
deal with that. And then off we go. It just looks

00:42:37.369 --> 00:42:39.170
really fun. I think the only slightly disappointing

00:42:39.170 --> 00:42:42.690
thing is he takes off the helmet and it's got

00:42:42.690 --> 00:42:45.530
a human face underneath it. But I then read a

00:42:45.530 --> 00:42:47.309
lot of comments which says that is actually what

00:42:47.309 --> 00:42:49.130
they would design. And in the book, it says they

00:42:49.130 --> 00:42:51.389
have human anatomy because they've had human

00:42:51.389 --> 00:42:53.250
parts grown for them or something along those

00:42:53.250 --> 00:42:57.050
lines. It looks a lot of fun. So come May, we've

00:42:57.050 --> 00:42:59.960
got to watch that. It reminds me, I've watched

00:42:59.960 --> 00:43:02.780
eight episodes of Severance. Severance, and do

00:43:02.780 --> 00:43:04.860
you get what I said about that? You don't know

00:43:04.860 --> 00:43:06.440
what it is. It's just like the first episode,

00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.619
it's like, am I going to enjoy this or not? It's

00:43:08.619 --> 00:43:11.559
a bit weird. And then a day passes, and it's

00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.440
like, I want to carry on watching it. Yeah, it's,

00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:16.719
I was watching, that was one of the things I

00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:18.340
had on while I was doing Minecraft, and they

00:43:18.340 --> 00:43:20.280
were kind of doing something really, you know,

00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:21.679
Minecraft isn't boring, but when you're just

00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.980
digging, I'm like, I've got Severance on. So,

00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:26.469
and I was like. oh no, I want to watch another

00:43:26.469 --> 00:43:27.750
one. So everyone's going to be putting the deck

00:43:27.750 --> 00:43:29.570
down and going, I'm going to focus on this bit

00:43:29.570 --> 00:43:31.750
now because this is actually really cool. And

00:43:31.750 --> 00:43:33.010
they're like, okay, right, now we're on, okay,

00:43:33.050 --> 00:43:35.429
now that's it. That's such a weird idea. It's

00:43:35.429 --> 00:43:40.150
an odd show in good ways. Yes. I'm really, I

00:43:40.150 --> 00:43:41.750
am genuinely enjoying it. I'm like, oh, when

00:43:41.750 --> 00:43:43.989
can I next watch Severance? Because Miranda's

00:43:43.989 --> 00:43:46.090
got no interest in watching it. Which is fair

00:43:46.090 --> 00:43:47.909
enough because I don't blame, because it is,

00:43:47.969 --> 00:43:53.000
it's got comedy, it's got serious. It's a really

00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:56.940
weird hodgepodge of everything. Yet it's beautifully

00:43:56.940 --> 00:44:00.800
filmed and designed as well. Yeah. I just don't

00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.860
know what to make. I honestly can't tell you

00:44:02.860 --> 00:44:06.840
what makes it so good. It's just it feels clever,

00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:12.599
but it's not clever for you to have to work out

00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.059
what's going on. So it feels like the show is

00:44:15.059 --> 00:44:16.980
really clever, but you don't need to be clever

00:44:16.980 --> 00:44:19.599
to watch it. Well, it's weird because sometimes

00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:21.179
it tells you what's happening and other times

00:44:21.179 --> 00:44:23.019
it lets you just guess what's happening. Yeah.

00:44:23.099 --> 00:44:25.420
It kind of does both. In cinematography -wise,

00:44:25.500 --> 00:44:27.619
there's some great shots in it, you know, the

00:44:27.619 --> 00:44:29.340
corridors and some other bits. Oh, the hanging

00:44:29.340 --> 00:44:32.760
scene's horrible. Yeah, the hanging scene's pretty

00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:36.380
rough, yeah. And how she purposely does it in

00:44:36.380 --> 00:44:39.239
lift so that when she comes up and goes into

00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:41.460
her other self, it's like, I've done this to

00:44:41.460 --> 00:44:44.440
you. You know that I've done it to you. Yeah.

00:44:44.860 --> 00:44:46.760
She even says that, doesn't she? I wanted her

00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:49.079
to know it was me. But isn't it such a dark idea

00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.239
that you never know what you do at work? And

00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.579
when you're at work, you have no idea about your

00:44:54.579 --> 00:44:56.300
outside life. You don't know if you're married.

00:44:56.780 --> 00:44:58.820
You don't know if... And you just don't know

00:44:58.820 --> 00:45:00.280
when. It's really, really... How far have you

00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.300
got? Maybe only episode eight or nine. And again,

00:45:04.340 --> 00:45:06.960
I just haven't had a chance to pick it up. I

00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.199
don't want to say which bit... that i'm at because

00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:12.599
i don't want you to ruin it for you vice versa

00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.099
but i think the last bit i've seen someone has

00:45:15.099 --> 00:45:18.599
died in the outside world yes and there's been

00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:23.039
a funeral yes and she's gone hunting for something

00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:26.420
at the funeral have you seen the bit where which

00:45:26.420 --> 00:45:29.019
suggests she knows what's going on outside and

00:45:29.019 --> 00:45:32.860
inside yeah so you know one of the severed guys

00:45:32.860 --> 00:45:35.699
the slightly chubby guy yeah have you got to

00:45:35.699 --> 00:45:39.039
the bit why he's really angry at the moment No.

00:45:39.300 --> 00:45:41.519
Okay, right. So I'm ahead of you by an episode.

00:45:42.059 --> 00:45:45.159
But can we also just say, isn't it nice to see

00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.360
Christopher Walken being Christopher Walken?

00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.000
Yeah, he's great in it, isn't he? Yeah, he's

00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.880
really good. Oh, it's just a great show. Anyway,

00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.260
let's move on to something else really, really

00:45:55.260 --> 00:45:59.400
good. He's finally matched his meat. You really

00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:04.519
licked his ass. That's met his match and kicked

00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:09.960
his ass. That's right. It's time for Demolition

00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:14.780
Man. Where he's not saying anything. He's getting

00:46:14.780 --> 00:46:16.500
his notes ready. I'm reading something and I

00:46:16.500 --> 00:46:20.280
just realised it's not actually what... Or is

00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.179
this actually? Yes, it is the bit that I wanted.

00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:30.280
So I was looking up on this and I was trying

00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:33.760
to find something online that I wanted to kind

00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:35.460
of just... bring to this that was going to be

00:46:35.460 --> 00:46:37.079
a little bit different. Now, I've got a few things

00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.280
that I've saved and I thought, you know what,

00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:41.639
this is going to be fun because I'm going to

00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:43.219
ask you questions. I know it's one of your favourite

00:46:43.219 --> 00:46:45.679
films, a little bit of a quiz and so on. But

00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:49.659
then I was doing a bit more research. So, I found

00:46:49.659 --> 00:46:52.460
this webpage called Bulletproof Action. Okay.

00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:54.980
Ten things you didn't know about Demolition Man.

00:46:55.340 --> 00:46:57.940
Alright. Number one, the two original choices

00:46:57.940 --> 00:47:00.460
for the leads were Steven Seagal and Jean -Claude

00:47:00.460 --> 00:47:03.019
Van Damme. Jean -Claude Van Damme was to play

00:47:03.019 --> 00:47:05.800
the villain. but he lobbied to play the hero

00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:08.380
role, and Seagal didn't want to play the bad

00:47:08.380 --> 00:47:10.559
guy either. So in the end, neither of them were

00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.119
in the film. Thank God. Stallone took the role

00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:16.920
of Spartan. He tried to get Jackie Chan to play

00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:19.340
the villain, because I didn't realise this, Stallone

00:47:19.340 --> 00:47:23.380
and Chan are good friends. Oh. But Chan didn't

00:47:23.380 --> 00:47:25.079
think the Chinese audience would appreciate him

00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:28.179
being a maniacal maniac who's out murdering people,

00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.880
so that fell through. Snipes didn't want to play

00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:35.820
the villain either. Oh. No one wanted to play

00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:38.380
the villain in this. Apparently, the director

00:47:38.380 --> 00:47:40.219
and producer went and visited him on the set

00:47:40.219 --> 00:47:42.320
for Rising Sun, convinced him to take his role.

00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:44.960
He hated his blonde hair and went so far as to

00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.300
shave his head after filming had wrapped. But

00:47:47.300 --> 00:47:51.460
Dennis Rodman, the NBA player, loved it. So it

00:47:51.460 --> 00:47:54.400
then... That's why his hair is blonde. He adopted

00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:56.780
the look after seeing this. Oh, horrible. Because

00:47:56.780 --> 00:48:00.599
that guy is awful. Yeah, okay. I'm going to skip

00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:04.059
number four. Number five, don't really care about.

00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:07.360
Number six, lots were chosen, but Taco Bell was

00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.659
chosen in the end. General Motors, yeah, fine.

00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:13.860
Spartan's daughter, we'll talk about later. There

00:48:13.860 --> 00:48:16.960
was a subplot involving her, but that was scrapped,

00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.179
apparently. Yeah, that's an annoyance in the

00:48:20.179 --> 00:48:23.380
film for me. Yeah, a little bit for me. In the

00:48:23.380 --> 00:48:27.900
Q8, the Arabic title of the film was, any ideas?

00:48:30.979 --> 00:48:35.639
Destruction boss. Rambo the Destroyer. I like

00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:37.340
it. But we'll come back to number four here,

00:48:37.380 --> 00:48:38.739
because this is the one, and then I've done a

00:48:38.739 --> 00:48:40.539
bit more digging, and it does seem that this

00:48:40.539 --> 00:48:43.980
is true. Okay. And this adds credence to your

00:48:43.980 --> 00:48:49.010
father. Mm -hmm. Snipes improvised many of his

00:48:49.010 --> 00:48:51.710
lines used in the film. The scene where he speaks

00:48:51.710 --> 00:48:53.590
Spanish after he's brought out a cryosleep and

00:48:53.590 --> 00:48:56.530
interrogated was completely ad -libbed. The filmmakers

00:48:56.530 --> 00:48:58.849
thought it showed his utter contempt for authority.

00:48:59.389 --> 00:49:04.050
I saw it more as actually he... Because I don't

00:49:04.050 --> 00:49:06.269
know what he's saying. I thought he was just

00:49:06.269 --> 00:49:08.210
repeating what the other guy said in Spanish.

00:49:08.730 --> 00:49:11.590
But I thought it was more like it was a quick

00:49:11.590 --> 00:49:14.130
glimpse into they had been programming him when

00:49:14.130 --> 00:49:17.360
he was... unconscious well yeah that's potentially

00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:20.519
what i was thinking but especially when you then

00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:23.300
consider stallone goes down into the underworld

00:49:23.300 --> 00:49:25.159
doesn't he later and he speaks spanish to buy

00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:28.639
the rat burger yeah so yeah you you expect that

00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:31.480
maybe he's learning it to go down there um but

00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.840
no you're right your dad was right although there

00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:38.199
was a script it does sound like a fair bit of

00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:40.630
it was He ad -libbed and was just allowed to

00:49:40.630 --> 00:49:44.670
get away with it. Because he's so natural in

00:49:44.670 --> 00:49:49.349
it. That's the thing about it. Because I feel

00:49:49.349 --> 00:49:51.429
like you can almost tell which bits he's having

00:49:51.429 --> 00:49:54.789
fun with and which bits he isn't. Although 99

00:49:54.789 --> 00:49:57.150
% of it, I think he actually is having fun. At

00:49:57.150 --> 00:49:58.750
least that's what the impression I think you

00:49:58.750 --> 00:50:03.570
get from it. And yeah, none of his lines, none

00:50:03.570 --> 00:50:06.489
of his interactions, nothing feels forced. No,

00:50:06.610 --> 00:50:10.159
you're right. Quiz time, before we talk about

00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:11.960
the film. Because I want to see how much you

00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:13.300
paid attention. Watch me get them all wrong.

00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:18.360
What city is it based in originally, before he's

00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:21.719
frozen? So before he's woken up... I wanted to

00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:23.900
say, isn't it like San Andreas or something?

00:50:24.659 --> 00:50:27.679
It's Los Angeles. It was Los Angeles, yeah. What's

00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:32.239
the year before he's frozen? 1993. Oh, hang on.

00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:34.539
I did write it down. The film came out in 93.

00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:38.420
Yeah, the film was 93. The film is set in 1996.

00:50:38.820 --> 00:50:43.000
Yep. How many hostages is he looking for? I think

00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.659
he's looking for 20, but later on they say he

00:50:45.659 --> 00:50:49.360
kills 30. So it's the, yeah, exactly the same.

00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.980
Yep. Okay. What else? What other questions did

00:50:52.980 --> 00:50:55.760
I have? How long is he sentenced to? He gets

00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.760
70 years. 70 years, yep. He does not serve 70

00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.920
years. When does he wake up then? He wakes up

00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.539
on August 3rd, 2013. Nice, okay. What's the code

00:51:07.539 --> 00:51:13.940
word that Wesley Snipes knows? Oh, shit. It's

00:51:13.940 --> 00:51:17.179
teddy bear. Teddy bear, well done. And you know,

00:51:17.219 --> 00:51:20.960
I'll make this the very last one. What poster...

00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.860
Does Sandra Bullock's character, Huxley, have

00:51:23.860 --> 00:51:28.639
in her office? It's the crime one. The crime

00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:32.699
one. Shit. I can't remember the film's name.

00:51:33.699 --> 00:51:35.019
Yeah, I can't remember the name of the film.

00:51:35.380 --> 00:51:39.920
Lethal Weapon 3. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:41.800
brilliant. Absolutely. Anyway, those are just

00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:43.159
my little questions. I thought, let's see, how

00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.260
much does he really pay attention to these films?

00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.599
Is he going to watch it like a hawk? It didn't

00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:51.780
do too bad. I think it did all right, yeah. There's

00:51:51.780 --> 00:51:53.460
so much to unpack on Demolition Man. Did you

00:51:53.460 --> 00:51:56.380
like it? Oh, I love it. Oh, good. It's such a

00:51:56.380 --> 00:52:00.179
cheesy action film for the time. I always think

00:52:00.179 --> 00:52:02.360
of it as an 80s film, but no, it's a 90s film.

00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:03.840
Yeah, it's a 90s film, yeah. It's a lot newer

00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:08.039
than actually I give it credit for. Newer. That

00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:09.980
I give it credit for. I always expected it to

00:52:09.980 --> 00:52:13.219
be an 80s film, but no, it's a 90s film. So much

00:52:13.219 --> 00:52:15.360
love put into it as well. The creation of some

00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:17.840
of the sets, the changing of some of it, the

00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.980
cars. They clearly built loads of cars. The set

00:52:21.980 --> 00:52:25.900
in the cryo prison is incredible. They literally

00:52:25.900 --> 00:52:29.480
have made the arms and moving parts. And there's

00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:31.320
a fight scene later where he gets picked up by

00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:35.960
it. Wow. Just the love and effort that's gone

00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:40.420
into the set design through the entire film.

00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:43.139
Quite obviously, the set design kind of almost

00:52:43.139 --> 00:52:46.239
came first to some of it because I'm going to

00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.719
pick you up on that bit. So Wesley Snipes, yep,

00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:51.280
is there and he's bringing the arm around and

00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:53.980
he picks up good old Spartan. Yeah. Picks him

00:52:53.980 --> 00:52:57.239
up. How does he escape from the hook hand thing?

00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.760
Oh, he puts his hand on what he wouldn't be able

00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:03.960
to put his hand on. So he grabs a pipe, rips

00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:07.159
it off and liquid nitrogen starts coming out.

00:53:07.219 --> 00:53:09.179
Yeah, his hand would have frozen off. Why is

00:53:09.179 --> 00:53:12.739
the arm being powered by liquid nitrogen? Because

00:53:12.739 --> 00:53:17.989
it's part of the arm. Yeah, I don't know. It's

00:53:17.989 --> 00:53:19.449
just one of those things because they don't use

00:53:19.449 --> 00:53:22.469
liquid nitrogen to freeze them. That's the little

00:53:22.469 --> 00:53:25.070
blue M &M, or skittle, I should say, that they

00:53:25.070 --> 00:53:28.030
drop in and it freezes you. So what on earth?

00:53:28.369 --> 00:53:31.650
Here's an idea. Maybe it feeds right to the tip

00:53:31.650 --> 00:53:34.090
of the arms so that when the metal arms are touching

00:53:34.090 --> 00:53:36.130
the ice cubes, they're not going to slowly melt

00:53:36.130 --> 00:53:39.489
the ice. So they're blasting liquid nitrogen

00:53:39.489 --> 00:53:41.650
out to make sure it stays cold at the point of

00:53:41.650 --> 00:53:45.730
contact. Okay. Show off. Fair enough. Obviously,

00:53:45.750 --> 00:53:47.670
I just made that up. I have no idea. No, but

00:53:47.670 --> 00:53:49.829
fair enough. You know, that's vaguely sense,

00:53:49.949 --> 00:53:51.389
but that's kind of one of the things I've thought

00:53:51.389 --> 00:53:54.110
about. And I love just how just holding it there

00:53:54.110 --> 00:53:56.389
for a couple of minutes is enough to make very

00:53:56.389 --> 00:53:59.289
obviously meant to be thick, super strong metal.

00:53:59.429 --> 00:54:03.170
Just snap. Or it's some kind of hydraulic fluid

00:54:03.170 --> 00:54:06.010
that they're using that also has the capacity

00:54:06.010 --> 00:54:09.780
to freeze steel. Yeah. I mean, this is in the

00:54:09.780 --> 00:54:15.199
blisty future of 1996. No, this is 2032. You

00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.679
know, but these things were built in 96. True.

00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:20.619
True. But I think we should also just kind of

00:54:20.619 --> 00:54:22.420
point out that this is not the sort of film you

00:54:22.420 --> 00:54:25.659
can deep dive massively because you'll find lots

00:54:25.659 --> 00:54:29.260
of problems. For example, when Spartan first

00:54:29.260 --> 00:54:32.159
goes up against Simon Phoenix in the thing and

00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:34.059
he says, I told you all to fuck off. Even the

00:54:34.059 --> 00:54:35.659
bus drivers don't come here. Blah, blah, blah.

00:54:36.539 --> 00:54:40.280
I'm pretty sure that C4 doesn't come in barrels.

00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.000
Oh, does it say C4 in the barrels? All the barrels

00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.579
behind them is marked as C4. The other problem

00:54:46.579 --> 00:54:49.400
with C4 is you can't just set it on fire and

00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:52.539
make it blow up. It just burns. People use it

00:54:52.539 --> 00:54:55.139
and cut it and cook things on it when they can't

00:54:55.139 --> 00:54:56.920
find whatever fuel they need in the battlefield.

00:54:57.420 --> 00:55:02.300
You need to detonate it. So, as I say, it's not

00:55:02.300 --> 00:55:04.059
one of these films that you can... pulled to

00:55:04.059 --> 00:55:06.480
pieces and expect to have done really well because

00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:09.840
there are things in it that just don't work unless

00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:13.639
you just suspend your disbelief a little bit

00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.239
you just have to let the film happen to you yeah

00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:18.900
that's how you enjoy it you just let the film

00:55:18.900 --> 00:55:23.570
go don't sit there questioning things just let

00:55:23.570 --> 00:55:26.489
the film take control over the next hour and

00:55:26.489 --> 00:55:28.349
a half or hour and 40 minutes however long it

00:55:28.349 --> 00:55:30.409
was exactly you've just got to accept that the

00:55:30.409 --> 00:55:35.409
labd in 1996 have chinook helicopters yeah also

00:55:35.409 --> 00:55:38.230
by the way how like clearly the police chief

00:55:38.230 --> 00:55:41.579
is old enough that he would still have known

00:55:41.579 --> 00:55:44.460
the world before but he's completely vacant of

00:55:44.460 --> 00:55:46.260
it but he is complete whereas they've just got

00:55:46.260 --> 00:55:49.159
some old black dude it seems to be the only person

00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:51.400
who knows anything who worked with spartan he

00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:53.659
worked for spartan yeah and by the way what a

00:55:53.659 --> 00:55:55.900
great name that they call him spartan yeah i

00:55:55.900 --> 00:56:00.119
think that's a really cool uh so very very quickly

00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:03.719
and yeah he's dethorred i know your wife's dead

00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:06.760
just really bluntly your wife's dead fine kind

00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:08.420
of understand that one just get it out of the

00:56:08.420 --> 00:56:10.860
way your daughter no You're here to help us.

00:56:10.900 --> 00:56:12.280
We're not going to tell you anything about her.

00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:18.079
I have a horrible, horrible feeling that they

00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:23.679
planned on making Huxley his daughter. Yes. Which

00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:25.360
I'm very glad they didn't sing. There's the whole

00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:29.019
kissing and sex thing. Interesting. That would

00:56:29.019 --> 00:56:30.900
have been a terrible choice because then you

00:56:30.900 --> 00:56:32.300
couldn't have had the sex scene, which, let's

00:56:32.300 --> 00:56:38.480
face it, Sandra Bullock is yummy. I've seen this

00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:42.119
film. so so many times for whatever reason i've

00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.880
always just ignored the wife and daughter part

00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.219
of it and it's only because this time i was actually

00:56:47.219 --> 00:56:49.139
watching it thinking though i need to make notes

00:56:49.139 --> 00:56:52.840
on a few bits and i was like oh this is actually

00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:55.440
a really weird bit about this film where i just

00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:59.230
being a dad There's no fucking way I would do

00:56:59.230 --> 00:57:01.510
anything for anybody unless I knew what was happening

00:57:01.510 --> 00:57:03.630
to my son. I do kind of like the fact that at

00:57:03.630 --> 00:57:05.550
the end he's like, no, don't look her up. I don't

00:57:05.550 --> 00:57:07.110
want to know. She doesn't need to know I exist

00:57:07.110 --> 00:57:10.190
anymore. She's had her own life for 36 years

00:57:10.190 --> 00:57:12.010
or something, isn't it? That he's been frozen

00:57:12.010 --> 00:57:15.389
for. Kind of understand that a little bit. Nah,

00:57:15.469 --> 00:57:19.389
I don't. I would be straight in. I don't know.

00:57:20.070 --> 00:57:22.780
Because we don't... We don't know how old the

00:57:22.780 --> 00:57:24.420
daughter was meant to be when he was frozen,

00:57:24.539 --> 00:57:26.280
do we? Yeah, or what his relationship with her

00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:28.900
was. So, for all we know, she was a baby, and

00:57:28.900 --> 00:57:32.119
she's gone through not only her dad being jailed

00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.440
when she's a baby, her mother dying in an earthquake,

00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:37.199
and now he's been thawed out to capture a mass

00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:39.420
murderer who's destroying the potential city

00:57:39.420 --> 00:57:42.179
that she still lives in. I'm not sure. I think

00:57:42.179 --> 00:57:44.400
I would probably do what he said, which is, no,

00:57:44.460 --> 00:57:46.820
you know what? She just doesn't need to know

00:57:46.820 --> 00:57:48.559
about it. I don't need to know what's going on.

00:57:48.579 --> 00:57:51.199
She's got her own life now, and she doesn't need

00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:53.559
the complication of me coming into it and suddenly

00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.219
being there when I can't even stop swearing and

00:57:56.219 --> 00:57:58.280
making tickets come out of the wall. I suppose,

00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:02.380
and also, it just puts her in the crosshairs

00:58:02.380 --> 00:58:05.139
for... Well, that too as well. Yes, you're putting

00:58:05.139 --> 00:58:07.599
her in the crosshairs. Now, what I kind of don't

00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:09.460
understand is if you're going to cut that scene

00:58:09.460 --> 00:58:12.820
and the whole storyline of the daughter... Don't

00:58:12.820 --> 00:58:14.639
just put in a very hurried thing at the end where

00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.579
you tell Huxley, no, don't look her up and give

00:58:16.579 --> 00:58:19.460
all that speech. You just re -film that beginning

00:58:19.460 --> 00:58:22.039
bit where you say, what about my wife? She died

00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.340
in the earthquake along with your daughter. Boom.

00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:26.800
Done. Fixed it. Don't need to add in anything

00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:29.239
at the end of the film. Don't have to worry about

00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:32.019
the storyline. Or just not have them exist. Yeah,

00:58:32.019 --> 00:58:35.280
or just have that. To be honest, with how he's

00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.559
kind of explained as... in the beginning of the

00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:39.659
film, being Demolition Man and all of that, you

00:58:39.659 --> 00:58:41.280
kind of get the idea that he probably wouldn't

00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:43.159
have had a family life. I think he was an absent

00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:47.940
father. Yeah, but as they don't really show any

00:58:47.940 --> 00:58:51.519
of that, it's not like Die Hard where you know

00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:55.079
that basically Bruce Willis' wife is like, I'm

00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:57.780
sick of this, so I'm moving on with my life and

00:58:57.780 --> 00:58:59.980
I'm taking our kids with us. You know he's an

00:58:59.980 --> 00:59:02.039
absent father at that point because of how they

00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:05.409
implement it into the story. Yeah. We see nothing

00:59:05.409 --> 00:59:08.949
about his fucking family in 1996. He only asks

00:59:08.949 --> 00:59:12.050
about them when he's been thawed. Yeah, exactly.

00:59:12.389 --> 00:59:15.130
And they're not there. Well, yeah, he does say

00:59:15.130 --> 00:59:17.070
as well about his wife banging on the glass.

00:59:17.590 --> 00:59:20.869
So maybe he wasn't. He says about dreaming that

00:59:20.869 --> 00:59:24.909
that's happening. But again, it just it's it's

00:59:24.909 --> 00:59:26.750
something that didn't need to be in there. It's

00:59:26.750 --> 00:59:29.809
just you don't need to try and make him human.

00:59:30.030 --> 00:59:32.929
We already know he's human. Just leave it at

00:59:32.929 --> 00:59:35.789
that. I think those are probably my biggest holes

00:59:35.789 --> 00:59:37.949
in it. There's just some straight up very funny

00:59:37.949 --> 00:59:41.289
bits. So Phoenix blows up the warehouse. He's

00:59:41.289 --> 00:59:43.489
obviously killed all the hostages first and they

00:59:43.489 --> 00:59:45.289
found the body, which is why the heat signature

00:59:45.289 --> 00:59:47.289
does. Again, they could have done with explaining

00:59:47.289 --> 00:59:49.349
that, you know? Yeah. They've thawed him and

00:59:49.349 --> 00:59:51.389
they finally say, oh yeah, Phoenix had actually

00:59:51.389 --> 00:59:54.090
already killed everyone. And I'm sure I remember

00:59:54.090 --> 00:59:55.829
there's a cut of the film where he says before

00:59:55.829 --> 00:59:58.159
he destroys him. I'd already killed everyone.

00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:00.000
No, he does at the end. He does say that at the

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.659
end. Yeah, in the fight scene, at the end, he's

01:00:01.659 --> 01:00:03.679
like, I'd already killed them. Yeah, exactly.

01:00:03.820 --> 01:00:06.699
Well, the heat scan. So, no, okay, I blanked

01:00:06.699 --> 01:00:09.260
on that this time. But I'm glad they kind of

01:00:09.260 --> 01:00:11.360
do that bit. Because that's when he says there

01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:13.980
were 30 of them, which is in contradiction to

01:00:13.980 --> 01:00:16.679
what... No, the beginning is 30. I thought it

01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.679
was like 22 or something. No, I've got my notes

01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:21.239
written in a note here, and it's 30 hostages.

01:00:21.539 --> 01:00:24.599
Oh, okay, I didn't write that down. But what

01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:26.940
I've got here is just after it's blown up and

01:00:26.940 --> 01:00:29.820
they say they find all the bodies, I really love

01:00:29.820 --> 01:00:31.980
the fact that the police officer behind him says,

01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:35.139
if you have a lawyer, you better call him. And

01:00:35.139 --> 01:00:37.920
then literally under a second later, he's being

01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:40.699
frozen. It's like, hmm, your lawyer was a bit

01:00:40.699 --> 01:00:42.840
shit then, wasn't he? It wasn't Daredevil. Yeah,

01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.179
they didn't get Matt Murdock in. Yeah, it kind

01:00:45.179 --> 01:00:47.579
of just feels like, hang on a moment. He's got

01:00:47.579 --> 01:00:49.980
all the evidence there. He'd got the thermal

01:00:49.980 --> 01:00:52.639
scans. His team would have seen the thermal scans.

01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:54.719
He wasn't just working on his own. He had a Chinook

01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:57.380
helicopter with other people on board. So they

01:00:57.380 --> 01:00:59.559
could have shown that there's the evidence there.

01:01:00.099 --> 01:01:04.059
But he was still put away for 70 years for the

01:01:04.059 --> 01:01:06.659
death of all of them. Well, no, they were dead

01:01:06.659 --> 01:01:11.420
already. Yeah, exactly. Just move on to the cryo

01:01:11.420 --> 01:01:14.780
prison again. One thing I noticed, I was saying

01:01:14.780 --> 01:01:16.380
it to Brandon when we were watching, it was like...

01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:19.519
I feel like he would have been wearing a respirator

01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:22.699
when they froze him. Yeah, so they don't quite

01:01:22.699 --> 01:01:25.239
explain the cryo prison well enough at the beginning.

01:01:25.500 --> 01:01:29.239
You actually get more of an insight when Phoenix

01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:33.710
is... thawing everyone and when spartan gets

01:01:33.710 --> 01:01:36.530
thawed because one of the process they say is

01:01:36.530 --> 01:01:39.150
right injecting plasma and they're not talking

01:01:39.150 --> 01:01:40.869
about plasma in the way star trek talks about

01:01:40.869 --> 01:01:43.409
plasma within the warp engine they're talking

01:01:43.409 --> 01:01:45.789
about the plasma inside your body so the liquid

01:01:45.789 --> 01:01:49.719
so And obviously, I wonder if the freezing process

01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.739
originally maybe went on for longer, but they

01:01:52.739 --> 01:01:54.860
had to cut it to kind of say, people aren't going

01:01:54.860 --> 01:01:57.059
to sit around for this. But the long and short

01:01:57.059 --> 01:02:00.079
of it is if you look at what cryogenics is, you

01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:03.760
don't just freeze a body because the liquid expands.

01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:06.219
Just like if you put a bottle of beer inside

01:02:06.219 --> 01:02:11.940
the freezer and close the door, as it freezes,

01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:13.760
it's going to expand. It's going to blow the

01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:15.320
top off it. So you're going to have a problem.

01:02:16.030 --> 01:02:18.849
And that's the same with blood. And if that freezes

01:02:18.849 --> 01:02:20.329
and damages the blood vessels, you're absolutely

01:02:20.329 --> 01:02:22.489
screwed. Same if it happens inside the blood,

01:02:22.610 --> 01:02:25.190
but inside the brain even. So what happens in

01:02:25.190 --> 01:02:28.570
cryogenics is as soon as you're dead, they stick

01:02:28.570 --> 01:02:31.110
giant, giant fuck -off needles in you and drain

01:02:31.110 --> 01:02:33.710
all the fluid out of you. And then they fill

01:02:33.710 --> 01:02:36.050
you up with antifreeze. And then they put your

01:02:36.050 --> 01:02:39.250
body in liquid nitrogen. And I kind of get the

01:02:39.250 --> 01:02:41.909
idea that whoever had the idea of the cryo prison

01:02:41.909 --> 01:02:45.360
did their research. They just didn't put it across

01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:47.699
well enough. So, yeah, they don't need to give

01:02:47.699 --> 01:02:49.500
him a respirator because they're going to suck

01:02:49.500 --> 01:02:52.099
it all out of him. But then why leave him conscious

01:02:52.099 --> 01:02:54.039
up until the point that the fluid's all around

01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:56.219
him? That's the thing. There's a moment in time

01:02:56.219 --> 01:02:59.320
where he is fully submerged in that weird goo.

01:02:59.619 --> 01:03:02.239
Yeah, that would freak me the fuck out. Yeah,

01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:05.360
and they're very slow at getting that weird little

01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:08.679
marble to go in and instant freeze him. There's

01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:11.860
a moment in time where he could die. He could

01:03:11.860 --> 01:03:14.860
have a panic attack, breathe in the goop, drown,

01:03:15.179 --> 01:03:18.860
and then get frozen dead. But again, are we talking

01:03:18.860 --> 01:03:21.690
about things... We haven't got any idea what

01:03:21.690 --> 01:03:23.329
they were planning. We don't know what they say.

01:03:23.409 --> 01:03:26.289
For all we know, in the longer director's cut,

01:03:26.369 --> 01:03:27.849
they actually explain what that goop is, and

01:03:27.849 --> 01:03:29.610
it's the same goop that we talked about with

01:03:29.610 --> 01:03:32.690
Ethan and his co -host, the oxygenated goop that

01:03:32.690 --> 01:03:34.889
technically does exist, that they use in the

01:03:34.889 --> 01:03:38.389
Abyss. And the mouse, or the rat, sorry, actually

01:03:38.389 --> 01:03:41.210
was put inside a box full of that goo, breathed

01:03:41.210 --> 01:03:43.710
it, then out, and it's fine. So it could have

01:03:43.710 --> 01:03:47.039
all been that, but either way... it's a bit of

01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:50.199
an odd one i will say though obviously all the

01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:52.840
wax mannequins they used and the wax works they

01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:55.440
used for the people froze absolutely phenomenal

01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:59.530
yeah I do wonder, so you know when they have...

01:03:59.530 --> 01:04:00.909
You're about to say the same thing I'm thinking.

01:04:01.050 --> 01:04:02.909
The fight with Phoenix, and they've got one in

01:04:02.909 --> 01:04:05.530
the ice block. I'm pretty sure that's Sylvester's

01:04:05.530 --> 01:04:06.550
one, isn't it? I think it's the same one, they've

01:04:06.550 --> 01:04:08.769
just spun it round. It's exactly what I was about

01:04:08.769 --> 01:04:11.190
to say, I think that's the same one. I was looking

01:04:11.190 --> 01:04:13.210
and thinking, because he was in a very specific

01:04:13.210 --> 01:04:15.210
shape. And that was very similar to him. And

01:04:15.210 --> 01:04:17.289
it was a very similar looking shape, yeah. So

01:04:17.289 --> 01:04:19.309
they just made one that was far enough away you

01:04:19.309 --> 01:04:20.670
wouldn't know, and it was kind of just the legs.

01:04:20.969 --> 01:04:23.949
But they also must have made a waxwork of him.

01:04:25.049 --> 01:04:27.989
because that entire intro bit where it's slowly

01:04:27.989 --> 01:04:31.050
panning 3D around his body, it's not him inside

01:04:31.050 --> 01:04:34.929
one of those ice blocks. It's meant to look like

01:04:34.929 --> 01:04:36.690
that, but it's quite obvious that the cameras

01:04:36.690 --> 01:04:38.710
are really close to his body going around it.

01:04:38.809 --> 01:04:40.730
It'd be CGI if they did it now. Oh, it would

01:04:40.730 --> 01:04:42.929
be 100 % CGI if it was now. But then they wouldn't

01:04:42.929 --> 01:04:44.929
have been doing it, not making it look that good.

01:04:45.210 --> 01:04:47.510
No. Because it looked real, so it must have been.

01:04:47.889 --> 01:04:49.789
Yeah. They must have made it, and it was a really

01:04:49.789 --> 01:04:53.079
good likeness of him. It was an amazing likeness.

01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:56.719
The skin, the texture, everything about it. And

01:04:56.719 --> 01:05:01.219
watching it now in 4K on Netflix, you know when

01:05:01.219 --> 01:05:03.500
something's ropey now. When we used to watch

01:05:03.500 --> 01:05:06.260
it on a CRT TV at home, like the 14 -inch portable

01:05:06.260 --> 01:05:08.920
TV in your bedroom, it didn't matter if it was

01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:10.840
a bit shit because the resolution of what we

01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:14.059
were watching at took that away. Things looked

01:05:14.059 --> 01:05:16.949
good no matter what. yeah now we've got all these

01:05:16.949 --> 01:05:19.590
4k remasters you can tell when something's not

01:05:19.590 --> 01:05:21.389
had money put into it and there must have been

01:05:21.389 --> 01:05:23.650
a lot of money put into this yeah because nothing

01:05:23.650 --> 01:05:26.050
showed but i mean even in the cryo prison all

01:05:26.050 --> 01:05:27.989
the machined metal they've got so the thing that

01:05:27.989 --> 01:05:31.289
holds the little blue ball i've got a real thing

01:05:31.289 --> 01:05:35.239
for when a film does machined metals props for

01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:38.079
nothing but to look cool and it just how it slots

01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:41.000
in and it feels and it's just like oh star trek

01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:44.179
first contact when they outside and they're detaching

01:05:44.179 --> 01:05:47.099
the deflector and they're going around and they're

01:05:47.099 --> 01:05:49.800
doing oh that's a great scene yeah that's such

01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:54.320
sexy metal work and it looks so good especially

01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:56.760
when it comes out and he's like twist it and

01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:58.679
again wrath of calm when he's doing the genesis

01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:00.539
machine you've got this metal kind of pillar

01:06:00.539 --> 01:06:02.239
that comes out twist it and a little one pops

01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:05.739
out Machined metal just looks fucking awesome.

01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:07.760
They sell that really well on First Contact.

01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:11.139
They sell the weightlessness. They sell there's

01:06:11.139 --> 01:06:14.440
actually friction on those things. It really

01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:17.460
feels like they're actually doing it. They do

01:06:17.460 --> 01:06:19.400
that really, really well. A few of my favourite

01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:21.980
things about Demolition Man. The swearing machines.

01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:23.619
Oh, the swearing machines are brilliant. Always

01:06:23.619 --> 01:06:27.460
funny. Always funny. Any three seashell jokes.

01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:31.380
Funny every time. I've got absolutely no concept

01:06:31.380 --> 01:06:33.199
of how the three seashells could ever possibly

01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.199
work to wipe your ass. It's got to be a scraping.

01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.320
That's all I can ever think of. And lots of people

01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:41.039
must remember it because it's like, it comes

01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:44.280
up in a few games. It's in Cyberpunk. If you

01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:46.239
haven't played Cyberpunk, your toilet has three

01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:47.699
seashells on the back of the toilet. I think

01:06:47.699 --> 01:06:49.800
in one of the Half -Life games, might be Half

01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:52.260
-Life 2, there's a reference to it at one point.

01:06:54.030 --> 01:06:55.309
One of the things I was going to say about the

01:06:55.309 --> 01:06:57.150
swearing machines. I love the fact that it goes

01:06:57.150 --> 01:07:01.989
on. The moratorium law or whatever it is. John

01:07:01.989 --> 01:07:04.809
Spartan, you have been fined one half credit.

01:07:05.130 --> 01:07:08.210
It's the fact that he says it. And you'll hear

01:07:08.210 --> 01:07:10.190
it from halfway across the room still. So it's

01:07:10.190 --> 01:07:11.730
not even when it's just next to him. You just

01:07:11.730 --> 01:07:14.210
hear it in the distance sometimes. Still going

01:07:14.210 --> 01:07:19.349
off. Now, there is one moment where someone swears

01:07:19.349 --> 01:07:22.909
and the machine does not go off. Did you pick

01:07:22.909 --> 01:07:25.880
it up? I've got quite a few moments that happen.

01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.519
So, for example, wouldn't you think that Simon

01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:33.880
Phoenix doing the Chinese impression would have

01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:35.760
set it off? Well, he's not swearing, though.

01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:38.719
No, but it's racist. He's being racist, but these

01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:41.579
are specifically swears. These machines are meant

01:07:41.579 --> 01:07:43.219
to be everything. Don't forget that we're in

01:07:43.219 --> 01:07:44.880
a society that you're not even allowed to kiss

01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:47.639
or have sex, which, again, we'll talk about in

01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:51.230
a minute. You'd think that racist... Simon Phoenix,

01:07:51.349 --> 01:07:53.929
for being racist, you've been fined 250 credits.

01:07:54.230 --> 01:07:58.210
Yeah, that was rough. It was funny. It was funny.

01:07:58.510 --> 01:08:00.269
Sorry, everyone, it was actually very funny.

01:08:00.449 --> 01:08:04.050
But at the same time, you could not do that now.

01:08:04.269 --> 01:08:06.809
No, and also, would you not consider all the

01:08:06.809 --> 01:08:09.590
sexual terms he uses for having sex as something

01:08:09.590 --> 01:08:11.829
that should trigger it? Do you think him doing

01:08:11.829 --> 01:08:14.329
that Chinese thing was an ad lib? 100%. Because

01:08:14.329 --> 01:08:16.390
that is brilliant if it was an ad lib. 100%,

01:08:16.390 --> 01:08:19.960
that's got to be an ad lib. Spartan swears, doesn't

01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:22.020
he? And it doesn't catch it. No, I think he gets

01:08:22.020 --> 01:08:24.359
caught every single time. It's just the one that

01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:27.319
you really, really notice is when Phoenix is

01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:32.600
talking to the knobhead guy in his office. And

01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:36.500
he says, he says, fuck. Yes, you're right. Nothing

01:08:36.500 --> 01:08:38.939
happens. But do you think that's because he's

01:08:38.939 --> 01:08:42.180
in his office and he's basically... Yeah, that's

01:08:42.180 --> 01:08:45.279
what I'm wondering. Or at that point... Simon,

01:08:45.340 --> 01:08:47.560
because he knows he can hack stuff if he's just

01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:48.699
turned it off. Oh, he's turned it off for him.

01:08:48.779 --> 01:08:54.460
Yeah, possibly. Do you know what the three terms

01:08:54.460 --> 01:08:57.279
were that good old Stallone used? Those really

01:08:57.279 --> 01:09:02.960
common terms used for sex. No. So one, boning.

01:09:03.140 --> 01:09:05.899
You know what boning? Hang on, hang on. I might

01:09:05.899 --> 01:09:07.579
have written it down. Did I write it down? I

01:09:07.579 --> 01:09:11.500
accept boning as a term that should be used.

01:09:12.449 --> 01:09:14.729
Okay, I don't actually have her in. The Wild

01:09:14.729 --> 01:09:19.250
Mambo. The Wild Mambo, yeah. Again, just about

01:09:19.250 --> 01:09:23.449
accepting this one. I don't mind that one. Hunker

01:09:23.449 --> 01:09:26.029
Chunker, however. Hunker Chunker. I genuinely

01:09:26.029 --> 01:09:29.069
just say no. If you're calling sex Hunker Chunker,

01:09:29.090 --> 01:09:32.930
you don't deserve to have sex. You're a 12 -year

01:09:32.930 --> 01:09:35.590
-old boy who's read a porno once. What's your

01:09:35.590 --> 01:09:40.090
boggle? What is my boggle indeed? Be well, Rob

01:09:40.090 --> 01:09:47.270
Carr. Oh, yeah. He has some of the worst lines

01:09:47.270 --> 01:09:49.449
in the film, actually. That must have been really

01:09:49.449 --> 01:09:53.050
hard to do, though. So you've got a standard

01:09:53.050 --> 01:09:54.930
way of speaking that we all do, and you're telling

01:09:54.930 --> 01:09:56.630
them, by the way, you're all now in the future,

01:09:56.670 --> 01:10:00.029
and you have to speak in a very specific way.

01:10:00.229 --> 01:10:02.949
So the whole B world, don't make actual contact

01:10:02.949 --> 01:10:06.109
with each other, just using weird words. I know

01:10:06.109 --> 01:10:08.920
it's scripted, but... The way they all do it,

01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:15.020
it sounds absolutely perfect. Yeah, yeah. Yes,

01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:16.819
sorry, go on. No, I was just going to say that

01:10:16.819 --> 01:10:21.000
they make a very believable future. Yeah, they

01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:26.119
do. Absolutely. I mean, excluding the great...

01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:31.439
Oh, what? The franchise wars with Taco Bell winning.

01:10:31.579 --> 01:10:34.880
Obviously, that was a very weird one, but yeah.

01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:40.479
It's just a very, very, very good idea of the

01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:41.880
future. And there's a few things in there that

01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:44.199
I was actually quite taken with. So, for example,

01:10:44.420 --> 01:10:50.020
vertical TVs everywhere. Look at us now. TikTok,

01:10:50.500 --> 01:10:54.539
phones, YouTube sorts. We watch things more on

01:10:54.539 --> 01:10:57.619
a vertical screen than we do a standard kind

01:10:57.619 --> 01:11:02.380
of horizontal layout anymore. Oh, yeah. I've

01:11:02.380 --> 01:11:05.359
got me being rude, of course. Spartan, you've

01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:08.399
demolished everything. He hasn't demolished Huxley

01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:13.079
yet. Wink, wink. Yeah, was it? I mean, she's

01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:15.079
got some great... Lelina Huxley, though, has

01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:16.920
got some really... She's got lots of fun stuff.

01:11:17.579 --> 01:11:19.939
Like... I put it in one of the things before,

01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:22.300
it was like, you really matched his meat, you

01:11:22.300 --> 01:11:24.699
really licked his ass. Yeah, yeah, I love all

01:11:24.699 --> 01:11:27.399
the slightly wrong phrases. Let's go blow this

01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:32.399
guy. Yes. I love the fact that actually now that

01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:34.760
makes sense. So the fact that Stallone wanted

01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:37.340
Chan to be the bad guy, I really love the fact

01:11:37.340 --> 01:11:39.779
that then Huxley later is kicking the arse of

01:11:39.779 --> 01:11:41.720
all these people. And Stallone's like, where

01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:44.460
did you learn that? Oh, Jackie Chan films. Yeah.

01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:47.380
I wonder if that's where that came from. Yeah,

01:11:47.380 --> 01:11:51.020
maybe. A little kind of nod to his friend there.

01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:54.479
But she's just a really good girl. I love the

01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:57.579
fact that she's really like us, basically. She

01:11:57.579 --> 01:12:01.699
collects 90s shit. Yeah, yeah. She collects 90s

01:12:01.699 --> 01:12:03.739
shit and she wants to live back in the 90s. And

01:12:03.739 --> 01:12:07.399
that's just me straight up. Yeah. I do love the

01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:10.579
fact that she's like, basically, having seen

01:12:10.579 --> 01:12:13.300
you fight, kill people and beat them up, I want

01:12:13.300 --> 01:12:15.909
to get laid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except it's some

01:12:15.909 --> 01:12:19.390
shitty headset. Yeah. And the smirk on his face

01:12:19.390 --> 01:12:26.170
when he's like, with you? Yes. Yeah. Right. How

01:12:26.170 --> 01:12:31.090
many days since he was awake that this interaction

01:12:31.090 --> 01:12:33.789
is happening? Oh, it was about a day. And he

01:12:33.789 --> 01:12:37.470
only just found out his wife's dead. Yeah. I

01:12:37.470 --> 01:12:40.050
didn't enjoy that. Yeah, in fact, that's a really

01:12:40.050 --> 01:12:41.989
good plot point actually, isn't it? Because although

01:12:41.989 --> 01:12:44.890
he's been frozen for 36 years, for him in theory,

01:12:44.890 --> 01:12:47.210
no time should have passed. Although we now know

01:12:47.210 --> 01:12:50.350
that time has passed for him. But he's basically

01:12:50.350 --> 01:12:53.029
just been like, yeah, I'll blatantly bang you.

01:12:53.109 --> 01:12:56.409
Straight in. Yeah, straight in. Whereas realistically,

01:12:56.909 --> 01:12:59.489
I think everyone would be like, this actually

01:12:59.489 --> 01:13:02.489
isn't appropriate. Because from my perspective,

01:13:02.649 --> 01:13:07.199
my wife died today. Exactly. This is a very odd

01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:08.840
interaction that we're having with each other.

01:13:09.100 --> 01:13:12.220
Yeah. A couple of things as well I've got here.

01:13:12.260 --> 01:13:15.079
The police station. That was used in Star Trek

01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:17.500
and the Orville and several other sci -fi things.

01:13:17.779 --> 01:13:19.720
Oh, is it? It's a water processing thing. It

01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:21.680
was a very futuristic thing. It got used in a

01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:25.159
lot of places. It's in the episode of the Orville

01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:27.500
when they go to rescue the scientist who's created

01:13:27.500 --> 01:13:31.859
the... aging gun or whatever it is um so that

01:13:31.859 --> 01:13:34.319
was very cool I love the fact that at one point

01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:36.579
as well I think Simon Phoenix turns to Spartan

01:13:36.579 --> 01:13:39.659
and knocks by him and goes excuse me Rambo yeah

01:13:39.659 --> 01:13:43.840
which is a nice little touch um I love it it's

01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:46.920
it's definitely a film of its time I can see

01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:50.550
that the way cinema is going at the moment, we

01:13:50.550 --> 01:13:52.890
may get a remake of it, which will be an abject

01:13:52.890 --> 01:13:56.010
failure. Oh, I really, really hope they don't.

01:13:56.010 --> 01:13:58.770
Oh, my gosh. You know what? They seem to be remaking

01:13:58.770 --> 01:14:01.050
all of these sorts of films at the moment. And

01:14:01.050 --> 01:14:03.090
I've just kind of got here that if they remade

01:14:03.090 --> 01:14:04.689
it, there's just things that they do. They would

01:14:04.689 --> 01:14:07.069
make Huxley his daughter. That would be the storyline.

01:14:07.229 --> 01:14:08.670
They'd get rid of the sex because they're like,

01:14:08.810 --> 01:14:10.689
oh, no, that's not appropriate to have in a film

01:14:10.689 --> 01:14:12.630
anymore. We could have a man and a woman stick

01:14:12.630 --> 01:14:14.109
their cock in each other. It wouldn't be called

01:14:14.109 --> 01:14:17.250
Demolition Man. It'd be called The Demolitionist.

01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:20.180
Because they won't be able to genderfy it. Yeah,

01:14:20.220 --> 01:14:22.859
that's true. What I also see happening would

01:14:22.859 --> 01:14:25.159
be, and this would be the bit that would kill

01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:28.659
it beyond all repair here. I know Phoenix is

01:14:28.659 --> 01:14:30.300
pissed off that he's been programmed to help

01:14:30.300 --> 01:14:33.720
this bloke and he eventually kills him. But the

01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:36.460
main part of this would be that the modern film

01:14:36.460 --> 01:14:39.319
would make Phoenix be super angry that he's been

01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:42.680
programmed and then would eventually help Spartan

01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:48.380
to be Dr. coco or whatever his name is i i saw

01:14:48.380 --> 01:14:51.520
how phoenix was going to kill him a mile off

01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:54.340
i've always thought it because as soon as you

01:14:54.340 --> 01:14:56.659
know that he's been programmed and then he convinces

01:14:56.659 --> 01:15:00.199
him to unfreeze his mates you know at that point

01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.920
uh phoenix has already gone well i'll just get

01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:05.439
my mates to kill you 100 from that moment he's

01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:07.899
already he's because he's very clever even before

01:15:07.899 --> 01:15:10.560
he has his mind done he's already actually quite

01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:14.449
a clever bad guy it's It's funny, isn't it? Robocop

01:15:14.449 --> 01:15:18.109
did it better. You consider, if you said Phoenix

01:15:18.109 --> 01:15:21.270
is Robocop, exactly the same premise, isn't it?

01:15:21.329 --> 01:15:25.810
Robocop cannot kill the head of OCR. Yeah. You're

01:15:25.810 --> 01:15:29.270
fired. Bang. I can kill you now. Yeah. And exactly

01:15:29.270 --> 01:15:31.890
in this way, Phoenix can't kill him. Someone

01:15:31.890 --> 01:15:35.729
else can. Yeah, exactly. And how clever clogs

01:15:35.729 --> 01:15:37.689
didn't see that coming. Exactly. And that's what

01:15:37.689 --> 01:15:41.060
I mean. The Robocop one works better. Yeah. Because

01:15:41.060 --> 01:15:43.340
he doesn't think he's going to be fired. He thinks,

01:15:43.340 --> 01:15:45.699
no, I'm always going to be a mate. This is always

01:15:45.699 --> 01:15:48.359
going to be my company. He doesn't see that coming.

01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:52.619
Whereas, yeah, Mr. Cleverhocks literally call

01:15:52.619 --> 01:15:54.460
it a safety net. We're keeping Spartan around

01:15:54.460 --> 01:15:56.140
until you've done your job. And, yeah, of course

01:15:56.140 --> 01:15:58.619
you can unlock all of your friends. What did

01:15:58.619 --> 01:16:00.539
he think was going to happen? Yeah, exactly.

01:16:01.260 --> 01:16:05.000
Yeah, it was a bit of a stupid way to die, I

01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:07.239
think. It was a dumb way to die, if you know

01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:11.699
the song. Yeah. What do you think about... I

01:16:11.699 --> 01:16:14.340
think they all went to the Stormtrooper school

01:16:14.340 --> 01:16:18.260
of aiming. Oh my God, yeah. Everyone. Always.

01:16:18.659 --> 01:16:21.119
And it pisses me off. He's meant to be this crack

01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:23.060
shot because he's been programmed as well and

01:16:23.060 --> 01:16:25.939
he still can't hit anything. No one can hit anything.

01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:29.180
Just fireless bullets. We all know it's a film.

01:16:29.619 --> 01:16:31.699
I've always thought this about it. It's like,

01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:34.920
just don't use the gun so much because... You

01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:38.079
would have hit one of the by now. You'd be dead

01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:40.760
by now. He's been programmed to be a killer.

01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.539
We see the list of all the programs he's had.

01:16:43.939 --> 01:16:46.460
Not one of those is, by the way, the most modern

01:16:46.460 --> 01:16:48.479
gun you're going to be able to find in our environment

01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:51.560
is at the museum. It's the fusion gun. To turn

01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:53.340
it on, you do this. You have to wait two minutes

01:16:53.340 --> 01:16:55.899
for it to work. He has no clue about any of those

01:16:55.899 --> 01:16:57.659
guns that are modern, except for the pistols.

01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.600
Yeah. Surely, that would have been in his programming

01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:03.640
package as well. Yeah. But he just says, I'll

01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:06.159
actually... dumb the people who were in charge

01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:09.439
of it all were yeah i mean it does as i say we're

01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:12.319
we're kind of trying to kill the film but we're

01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:15.680
not no it's a really good film but if you look

01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:19.600
into the inaccuracies and the issues that arise

01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:22.560
from it then it's very clear to see there's lots

01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:25.779
of holes in the story the thing about it is it

01:17:25.779 --> 01:17:28.199
really doesn't detract if you want just a stupid

01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:32.060
action film full of explosions and fun demolition

01:17:32.060 --> 01:17:35.060
man is exactly what you want In the moment, you

01:17:35.060 --> 01:17:37.579
do not really notice any of these things. Not

01:17:37.579 --> 01:17:39.539
really. Not at all. Not in any way that you'd

01:17:39.539 --> 01:17:41.880
ever even remotely care. Until you sit there

01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:43.739
with a notepad and start making notes like we

01:17:43.739 --> 01:17:46.220
did, you don't care about those things. The only

01:17:46.220 --> 01:17:47.840
reason we bring them up is because we've sat

01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:50.399
there and we're analysing the film. Because at

01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:52.920
that moment, it's a good moment seeing him trying

01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:55.020
to figure out the space age gun. That's a really

01:17:55.020 --> 01:17:57.359
fun moment. And then suddenly when it's charged,

01:17:57.399 --> 01:17:59.439
it's like, oh, yes. And then you get the payoff

01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:01.819
of it actually being a really cool gun. Exactly.

01:18:02.140 --> 01:18:05.079
It's just one of those things, I think, this

01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:08.380
is why we talk about reviewers and what we've

01:18:08.380 --> 01:18:11.020
got to be careful about is not being the people

01:18:11.020 --> 01:18:13.100
that review films in the way that we dislike.

01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:16.119
We can, and I think we're very good at this,

01:18:16.220 --> 01:18:18.579
we can pick a film to bits and say, this was

01:18:18.579 --> 01:18:20.659
wrong, this was wrong, but it's still not stopped

01:18:20.659 --> 01:18:22.600
us going. But you know what? Just watching it

01:18:22.600 --> 01:18:25.659
as a film, it's bloody brilliant. Just enjoy

01:18:25.659 --> 01:18:28.810
it. Yeah. If you're looking for it to be really

01:18:28.810 --> 01:18:31.449
accurate, then this isn't the film for you. But

01:18:31.449 --> 01:18:33.270
if you're looking for a film just to have fun

01:18:33.270 --> 01:18:38.050
with, then do it. Look, no matter what I say

01:18:38.050 --> 01:18:40.569
negative about this film, this is one of my favourite

01:18:40.569 --> 01:18:43.289
films of all time. This, The Thing and Lord of

01:18:43.289 --> 01:18:46.829
the Rings, they are... They are my favourite

01:18:46.829 --> 01:18:48.810
films of all time. I know you don't like Lord

01:18:48.810 --> 01:18:51.510
of the Rings. You know, even The Phantom Menace

01:18:51.510 --> 01:18:53.369
is up there as one of my most favourite. Because

01:18:53.369 --> 01:18:56.729
I really, it's got such a nostalgic part of me,

01:18:56.829 --> 01:18:58.829
The Phantom Menace. It's a great part of my life

01:18:58.829 --> 01:19:00.869
when The Phantom Menace came out. I know there's

01:19:00.869 --> 01:19:02.109
loads of things wrong with that film, but there's

01:19:02.109 --> 01:19:05.720
just something that that film brings. So many

01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:08.479
good memories along with it. Something I've recently

01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:10.380
learned. So you know the pod racing scene when

01:19:10.380 --> 01:19:13.199
the camera pans around and you see all the stands

01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:16.720
with lots of people kind of... You can't see

01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:19.520
them. You just see this kind of overarching view

01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:22.239
of all the stand. Yep. Those are all little cotton

01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:23.939
heads that have all been dyed different colours.

01:19:24.180 --> 01:19:25.619
You know those little cotton buds that you can

01:19:25.619 --> 01:19:27.180
kind of clean your ears? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They

01:19:27.180 --> 01:19:28.539
cut all of them and they just gave them all different

01:19:28.539 --> 01:19:30.560
colours and stuck them in polystyrene and that's

01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:33.460
what the stands are in that first kind of...

01:19:33.850 --> 01:19:36.289
panning shot of it that's what those are i haven't

01:19:36.289 --> 01:19:38.529
watched that in like four carry things so if

01:19:38.529 --> 01:19:41.510
you can tell oh i wonder i just like i think

01:19:41.510 --> 01:19:43.470
things like that it's really fun to know but

01:19:43.470 --> 01:19:47.050
uh yeah it's i wouldn't say it's one of my favorite

01:19:47.050 --> 01:19:48.750
films it's definitely one of my films i do love

01:19:48.750 --> 01:19:51.529
to watch though i'm not i'm not gonna take that

01:19:51.529 --> 01:19:54.029
away from anyone it's a good film it's a it's

01:19:54.029 --> 01:19:57.270
a film that we're on telly it is a film i would

01:19:57.270 --> 01:20:00.869
not change the channel and i think that is what

01:20:00.869 --> 01:20:14.500
makes a film damn right So, we've now in full

01:20:14.500 --> 01:20:15.899
agreement that Demolition Man is the greatest

01:20:15.899 --> 01:20:17.819
film of all time. What are we going to be doing

01:20:17.819 --> 01:20:20.699
next time? We are going to watch new Doctor Who.

01:20:21.020 --> 01:20:22.640
We are. We're going to at least watch the first

01:20:22.640 --> 01:20:24.699
episode of it, at least. I think what we really

01:20:24.699 --> 01:20:27.020
should do, let's watch the first episode, and

01:20:27.020 --> 01:20:30.340
then let's also... take into account what Biffo

01:20:30.340 --> 01:20:32.560
wrote about it. I haven't read what he wrote.

01:20:32.579 --> 01:20:33.840
Well, that's what I mean. So let's give it a

01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:36.600
read, watch the first episode, and then... No,

01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:38.159
let's watch it first, then read it. Yeah, yeah.

01:20:38.300 --> 01:20:42.300
Watch it, read it, then we dissect it. I would

01:20:42.300 --> 01:20:45.079
love to see what Biffo would do as a Doctor Who

01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:47.579
script, because he is actually one of the only

01:20:47.579 --> 01:20:49.819
people that are genuinely qualified to say...

01:20:49.819 --> 01:20:52.500
Yeah, absolutely. ...this isn't good, because

01:20:52.500 --> 01:20:56.720
he wrote scripts. Yeah. So, you know what? I

01:20:56.720 --> 01:20:58.859
would love to. And seeing all the found footage

01:20:58.859 --> 01:21:00.300
stuff, I know you haven't watched any of the

01:21:00.300 --> 01:21:02.779
found footage yet. Oh, my God, you're missing

01:21:02.779 --> 01:21:04.939
out. And I would love to see what he'd do with

01:21:04.939 --> 01:21:07.060
Doctor Who. I really, really would. I mean, from

01:21:07.060 --> 01:21:08.699
what I do know from the stuff he writes, I think

01:21:08.699 --> 01:21:11.819
it would be right up his alley. Oh, God, yeah.

01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.140
Definitely. It would be absolutely brilliant.

01:21:14.220 --> 01:21:16.380
I mean, Venus would be one of the main bad guys

01:21:16.380 --> 01:21:19.819
for one point. How good would that be? I mean,

01:21:19.819 --> 01:21:22.060
now I know who Venus is and I've seen some things.

01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:29.500
Who's that? Oh dear. Anyway. So next week, first

01:21:29.500 --> 01:21:32.600
episode of new Doctor Who on the BBC. That's

01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:47.359
what season two of that guy, isn't it? Yes. Let's

01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:48.920
move the microphone back to my face. You see,

01:21:48.979 --> 01:21:52.260
it now swings as well. Sorry, TJ's just like

01:21:52.260 --> 01:21:54.340
gone mad. You've got new mics, new stand. The

01:21:54.340 --> 01:21:57.579
stand is a game changer for me because the way

01:21:57.579 --> 01:22:00.020
I sit, you know, if you notice, well, I put mine

01:22:00.020 --> 01:22:02.439
the other way around. I have the back going up,

01:22:02.460 --> 01:22:03.920
but you have the back going down. I need to change

01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:05.699
mine to be the same way as you because it's the

01:22:05.699 --> 01:22:08.140
right way of doing it. This is just a holdover

01:22:08.140 --> 01:22:09.699
from the other. No, I think whatever works for

01:22:09.699 --> 01:22:11.539
you, mate, to be honest. If that works, it works.

01:22:11.659 --> 01:22:14.579
But either way, this is so stable. I think people

01:22:14.579 --> 01:22:16.520
can hear me wobbling it now. Yeah, that's the

01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:18.560
only thing. So our old mics, you'd have springs

01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:21.659
on them. So if I did this, you wouldn't hear

01:22:21.659 --> 01:22:24.180
that because it's sprung load. And we can get

01:22:24.180 --> 01:22:26.819
spring holders for the mics, but we don't touch

01:22:26.819 --> 01:22:30.560
it. It's fine. Anyway, right, end of the show.

01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:32.220
I want to go to bed, sorry. End of the show,

01:22:32.340 --> 01:22:35.399
right. What's the time? It's 20 to midnight.

01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:37.539
Oh, Jesus Christ. And we both have kids that

01:22:37.539 --> 01:22:39.920
will be up at six. Yeah, right. So where can

01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:41.840
you find us? You can find us on every single

01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:46.430
social media. Blue Sky. Just go to channel84

01:22:46.430 --> 01:22:49.289
.co .uk. You can find absolutely everything on

01:22:49.289 --> 01:22:52.869
there. We are part of the Studio Channel 84 group

01:22:52.869 --> 01:22:56.569
of indie podcasts, which is obviously the Untitled

01:22:56.569 --> 01:22:59.470
Sci -Fi show. The other one with Tom and I is

01:22:59.470 --> 01:23:04.810
the Variety show. Both are fortnightly, alternating

01:23:04.810 --> 01:23:07.810
Mondays. Hopefully this one will come out on

01:23:07.810 --> 01:23:10.229
Monday on time. We'll see. It should do, but

01:23:10.229 --> 01:23:11.630
you know what? It should do, but if it doesn't...

01:23:11.630 --> 01:23:14.430
It's Easter, so... It might be delayed to Tuesday.

01:23:14.689 --> 01:23:17.390
Well, that's what I was going to say. I'm going

01:23:17.390 --> 01:23:19.210
to do my best to get it to come out Monday, but

01:23:19.210 --> 01:23:21.029
at the same time, where I haven't been well,

01:23:21.130 --> 01:23:23.149
I'm finding it difficult to look at the PC screen.

01:23:23.770 --> 01:23:26.229
I wasn't able to work. So if it doesn't come

01:23:26.229 --> 01:23:28.409
out Monday, it'll come out Tuesday. And that's

01:23:28.409 --> 01:23:30.050
really understandable, mate. So just bear with

01:23:30.050 --> 01:23:32.449
me on it. It will come out before the next variety

01:23:32.449 --> 01:23:37.729
show. Also, part of the Switch 1984, we've got

01:23:37.729 --> 01:23:39.609
Lightly Used with Karen Adam. They just had their

01:23:39.609 --> 01:23:42.810
20th episode. Brilliant. I can't believe that's

01:23:42.810 --> 01:23:46.550
gone so quickly. And also, who takes the socks

01:23:46.550 --> 01:23:49.569
off with Simon and Ross? I didn't fuck anyone

01:23:49.569 --> 01:23:54.050
up. Thank you very much. Send in your answers,

01:23:54.109 --> 01:23:57.869
please, to this week's, this episode, whatever

01:23:57.869 --> 01:23:59.729
you want to call it. Guess the intro. It's all

01:23:59.729 --> 01:24:02.430
computer games. I think they're all pretty easy

01:24:02.430 --> 01:24:04.409
to get, and I'll try my best to make it easy

01:24:04.409 --> 01:24:06.250
to get so we can actually get some people winning.

01:24:06.289 --> 01:24:08.430
I'll try and make all of them a bit easier, but

01:24:08.430 --> 01:24:13.069
still actually fun. Yeah, that's it. Tune in

01:24:13.069 --> 01:24:15.949
next time. Thank you very much. Love you, darling.

01:24:16.289 --> 01:24:48.539
Love you. Bye -bye. Bye. May the Force live long

01:24:48.539 --> 01:25:02.020
and prosper inside of you. This was a Studio

01:25:02.020 --> 01:25:06.039
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