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Explain as you would a child.

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That's our one hour for lunch everybody.

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I think I'll have soup today.

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Hello and welcome to the Untitled Sci-Fi Show.

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Hi Rob.

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Hello mate, how are you doing?

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I'm not too bad, I don't know why I waved at you but...

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Hi!

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Hi!

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Yeah, I'm really good thanks bud.

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I made a good choice of a film this week and really enjoyed watching it and it's been a bit of a chill out week, it's not been too bad.

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Yeah?

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Oh it's half term holidays remember so...

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Oh yeah.

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Monday I was stuck in London, well not stuck, I took Kay to London for the day just to have a nice little kind of day trip.

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And then T wanted to spend the night at Nanny and Grandpa's so literally Monday, London, drop Kay off at home, then pick up T, take him to Nanny and Grandpa's, spend the night with him there and then work for my mum's on Tuesday.

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So it was a bit of a chaotic two days.

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You stay with him.

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Yeah, he would have stayed on his own but we just thought for his first time at Nanny and, this Nanny and Grandpa's on his own that I'd go with him so I don't think he'd have a problem, next time he'd probably just kick me out the front door knowing him.

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It's a good idea, I might have to do that with my T because he does say he wants to stay over there but I think he's too young to go on his own.

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You see, I took him over, I shared the bed with him and he was absolutely fine.

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That actually meant I got some single time with my parents which I don't often get.

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Yeah, I think I have to try something like that.

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What have we been doing?

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This isn't the section.

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This isn't the section, no.

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Hey Sweden!

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That's Swedish, man, not Norwegian.

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Right, first things first is guess the intro.

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It is guess the intro.

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I don't write call sheets down so we've got every episode we just...

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What is it, what's the saying? Flying by the seat of your pants.

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Skinner your balls, all that sort of thing.

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So you did very well, only one you didn't get.

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Yes.

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So I'm going to play them and you're going to let me know what you think.

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All Detroit has a cancer. Cancer is crime.

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So that was easy, that was Robocop.

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So it might sound a bit different.

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I'm playing the vocals only version so there might be a bit of silence in between as it goes through each one.

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That's the way I do it when I do the trailers.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So they're thinking he only has a vocal version so that's boring everybody.

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That is fine.

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The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long and you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy.

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So I paused that halfway through.

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So that was Blade Runner.

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That is Blade Runner, absolutely.

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I think I should have cut that little bit at the end off.

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Yeah, possibly, but you know what?

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It's too late.

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I think that's what gave it away.

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Could be a monkey or a orangutan.

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A bald monkey.

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I just really like that.

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It's a really fun bit.

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It was a great.

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I'm not a fan of the film.

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It's ET.

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You know what?

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It used to freak me out as a child.

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It's never freaked me out.

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Not like Willy Wonka, but I just find it a bit annoying and I think it's just because I've seen it so many times.

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It's all up until they find him looking like a grey dog turd laying in the river.

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That bit freaks me out then.

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I don't know why it used to freak me out.

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I'm sure it doesn't now, but as a kid, I just didn't like it and it freaked me out and the whole thing.

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Them whizzing him away and all the medical team and all of that.

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It's just, I don't know.

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It just, I didn't like it.

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There's a really good ride in Universal in Florida for ET.

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That's a really fun.

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What, ET the ReSUS?

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Quickly save ET's life.

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Someone get on his chest.

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Go!

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Keep him clear.

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So you go on these bikes, as you would.

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So everyone has their own bike.

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So at the beginning, you have to give them your name and they type it in the machine and they give you a supposed passport or like a pass to get into the FBI, CAI, government section where they're holding ET.

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And you go in and then you get put on these bikes, push bikes, and you're going along and then, yeah, then ET's in the basket in front and they fly around and then you end up on his planet.

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So you see his planet with his mum or his wife or someone's a woman ET there, which is very odd.

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Who are we seeing in Star Wars Episode 1 looking over all of the...

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The prostate exams that happen at that point.

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Yeah, then one shoots off and they get prostate exams.

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Look at the cat.

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So there's a cat in a box.

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Got a cat in a box.

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And then at the end, he waves at everybody and he goes, thank you, goodbye.

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And then he says the names, but they never could.

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He didn't know Rob.

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He knew Robert.

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So, and the very first time we ever went as a family, my name was the only one we heard it say.

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He was like, thank you, Robert.

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So it was like this ongoing joke between me and my dad now, whenever, because we were lucky enough,

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we went a few times, whenever we'd go, he'd be like, do you want to go on that ride?

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Robert.

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Can you imagine that?

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That's probably done with an AI voice thing.

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It's probably done with an API.

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Oh yeah, you rubbish now.

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And one day someone will forget to pay for that licence and it will be, thank you, API key limit reached.

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You've reached your key limit.

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Back out of credits.

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Subscription expired.

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Right, next one, next one.

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You know how I cracked it?

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I don't know how you did any of this.

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This is the one that I didn't get.

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You had to tell me this one.

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And I love the film.

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I thought the film was absolutely brilliant.

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I saw it in the cinema.

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I got it on DVD as soon as it came out.

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It was Ex Machina, or Ex Machina, however you pronounce it.

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So, um.

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Is it terrorists?

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This came from someplace else.

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What do you mean, like Europe?

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No, Robbie, not like Europe.

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Right, so this is War of the Worlds and it's the stupidest fucking lie.

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I could have sworn if I'd heard that line, I would have said that was the scary movie version of War of the Worlds they did, because it's so stupid.

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I know, that's why I chose it.

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But the thing is, there's not many quotable parts of it.

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No, it's little Tommy Crews running around the place.

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I was hunting around on YouTube for different quotes and stuff.

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I thought we were playing footsie, but it's the dog head by my feet.

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And a lot of it was just shouting and lots of music.

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It's got a really loud score, as you can hear from that.

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It's hard to get any vocals without the music.

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Amazing music, but for the purposes as I needed it, it was a bit unfortunate.

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But I just like that scene.

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They're in the car when it's just happened, he's got his son and his daughter.

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She's like mid panic attack.

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And then the son's like climbing forward.

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See, I've never liked her as an actress.

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And I didn't like War of the Worlds.

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The young lady.

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Yeah, I've never liked whatever character she's in.

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She's always been precocious.

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And you just want to slap her.

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That's a word, isn't it?

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Precocious.

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It is a word, it's a good word.

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It is a lovely word.

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Dictionary word of the day, precocious.

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Would you like to know more?

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Come on, everyone.

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And everyone knows just from even that little bit more.

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Starship Troopers.

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Starship Troopers, yeah.

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That's it.

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That was, I guess, the intro.

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And I must watch Starship Troopers 2 at some point just to see how bad it's got to be bad.

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Yeah, I'd love to see it.

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It's got to be like Universal Soldier 2 and Universal Soldier 3.

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Well, number two I've seen, Universal Soldier The Return.

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It's awful.

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Well, I mean, Starship Troopers is on the list for us to watch at some point.

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So maybe we'll do that and then we'll do number two.

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Or maybe we'll just go straight to number two.

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Because we've all seen number one.

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We all love it.

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Starship Troopers, Starship Poopers.

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So that's it.

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Nobody won.

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No shout outs.

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Nobody won that one.

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No, I didn't actually have any people even actually write in.

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So did we ask people to write in last time?

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Or did we just say because Stiddies won the prize, that was it?

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And did we forget to say?

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No, you get shout outs.

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If you get it right, you get a shout out.

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If you're the first person to get it right, you get a super shout out.

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Whatever that means, I'll make it up on the spot.

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And I put it up on socials a few days after the episode comes out for those that, you

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know, there's a lot of people that follow us that don't actually listen to the show.

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So I'm sure out of the 400 people that follow me on Blue Sky, they ain't listening.

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They're all too busy with American politics.

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Checkmate.

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Checkmate.

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Cheating bitch.

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What have you been doing?

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Go on then.

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I've got 13.

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We're on a timely bit, all right?

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No, it's not as bad as last week.

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You've got a five minute section count this time.

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Me and Kay started Ghostbusters Frozen Empire.

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Oh nice.

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She really liked the look of it.

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We've got about a third of the way through and we've been watching it before bed and

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just as the big scary ghost is going to get sucked out of whatever it is and escape.

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So we thought we'll probably leave it there and we'll start watching it during the day

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at the moment because I don't want her having problems sleeping because of ghosts.

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She's very impressionable.

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Let's put it that way.

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So I thought we'll move that to a daytime watch now and that way she can just say no,

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stop, and then we'll watch something happy.

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Non-sci-fi film I watched with her that she loved by the way, The Mighty Ducks.

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The original one.

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The original.

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Of course the original.

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They're great, aren't they?

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Oh really?

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It might be a series.

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There's a series.

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I thought they carried on because the clips I've seen in the series is them moaning that

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it's all modern day and Coach Bombay is there and they're kind of all saying he's the original

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Mysy Duck.

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He should be getting an award.

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None of this crap.

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So I don't know.

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Maybe it does carry it on.

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Maybe it's meant to be Mysy Duck's future.

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I don't know.

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But she watched it.

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She really enjoyed it.

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She wants to watch the second one.

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I'm happy.

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Yeah.

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It's been a very long time since I've seen my...

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I don't remember it even remotely.

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Loads of swearing.

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Loads of swearing.

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Is it 12?

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NASA PG.

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It's typical Disney PG back in the era.

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You got piss, bitch.

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There's a fair few others in there.

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Just randomly thrown in.

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But it's just that weird American world.

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Those aren't considered swears.

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But if you say damn well God, war.

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Oh dear.

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Anyway, moving on from that.

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The only other sci-fi stuff we've watched is I'm getting Gem to go through all of the

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Alien films like you did with Miranda.

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We watched Alien a few weeks ago and she really enjoyed it.

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We've just finished watching Aliens.

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I did give her the choice.

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I said look, we can go to Romulus, which is chronologically correct, or we can go by film

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release.

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She said no, no one else got to see it like that.

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So no, I want to watch it in the film releases.

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That's right.

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That's how I think you should watch all of them.

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In the order they were released.

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So we're going by release.

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So we had Aliens.

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Her words were I enjoyed it.

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I can't say which I preferred between Alien and Aliens as they're both such different

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films.

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It's so funny to hear other people say this.

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It just seems to be like the universal opinion of those two films.

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It's like the playground arguments of the 80s.

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Spectrum versus the Commodore 64.

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You're either a Speccy kid or you're a Commodore kid.

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And it's like that with Alien and Aliens, isn't it?

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You're either an Alien or you're an Aliens.

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We don't hate each other.

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Yeah, we don't hate each other.

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But the thing is, is they are such different films.

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I can understand actually her judgment on that.

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And it's the preferable way of dealing with it, isn't it?

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Alien is a phenomenal film.

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It's a horror thriller.

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Whereas you've got Aliens, which is an action film.

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I look forward to hear what she says about Alien 3.

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You know what?

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I haven't seen it for so long.

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I'm looking forward to watching it.

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I know it's not necessarily the worst of the bunch because let's face it, we haven't got

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a resurrection yet.

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And we've also said we are not touching AVP with a barge pole.

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They don't exist.

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Yeah.

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So we have just watched, I'd say all six of the Alien films.

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You know, the first, the fourth, then Prometheus, Covenant.

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Excuse me.

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And I would say that of the Alien films, they get progressively worse.

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I think.

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No, I agree.

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The storyline gets worse and worse.

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I mean, bear in mind with resurrection.

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They clone her just to get an Alien, which makes no sense at all.

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Why on earth would her DNA have an Alien already in her chest?

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DNA doesn't work like that.

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Yeah.

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That's, that was a weird plot point that I thought too.

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It's like when you take a little strand of DNA, it's not their entire how they, it's

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not like a snapshot of what they were.

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Isn't it?

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You could go back to LV421 because don't forget, all that blows up is the processing plant

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of their home.

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And okay, yeah, it's going to take up to like 30 clicks.

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I think they say a 40 clicks kind of area.

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It's going to decimate.

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For all we know, the Alien ship wasn't that close.

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It could have been further away from that, which I would have assumed it would have been

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further away than that.

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Yeah.

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It's technically, if you're terraforming an area, you're not going to land and go, oh,

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what's that over there?

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Oh, don't worry about it.

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We'll just ignore it.

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It's a sensible option for Wayne and Jutani to do rather than spending all that time and

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money cloning what eighth, was she the eighth one or the seventh one?

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Something like that.

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All those failures beforehand.

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And that's already fucked up scene as well, by the way.

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The other, the failed claim.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh, well, here's the thing.

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I need to kill this clone of me.

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What's the best way to do it?

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No, put your gun away.

328
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I'm going to flamethrower.

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I'm going to watch it slowly roast and see if it smells like chicken.

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I'm just going to burn you alive and just listen to you scream.

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No, no, no, don't shoot.

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No, don't put her out of misery.

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Let's watch.

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Make sure she dies.

335
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Yeah.

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It's been about 30 seconds still screaming.

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Don't you shoot her.

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It's a terrible film.

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It is really.

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When people said how bad Alien 3 is, I don't think any of them expected Alien 4 to be.

341
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Oh boy.

342
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Yeah.

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And then.

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I mean, it's the equivalent of Terminator Dark Fate for the Alien franchise.

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Yeah, I think so.

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And then the other two, Covenant and what was the other one called?

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Prometheus and Covenant.

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Prometheus and Covenant.

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It goes Prometheus first and Covenant.

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They're both, as I said to you privately, imagine they're not Alien films.

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That Prometheus is easier to imagine it's not an Alien film.

352
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Yes.

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And if you do that, I actually think it's quite a good film.

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Yeah.

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And if you'd got rid of the idea of the Xenomorph and made it a slightly different design, you

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didn't go for the Geiger style designs.

357
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Yeah, you're right.

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You could have made that just a purely sci-fi film.

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Wonderful.

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Really good fun.

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I like the bits that do tie in with what we know, but not enough of it ties in to make

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it, oh, this is good.

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I mean, bear in mind.

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So the ship that David takes off in, sorry, the ship they find has crashed.

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They then take off and that lands where Covenant happens, which by the way must mean that planet

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is LV-241 or 421 because that's the same fucking ship, remember?

367
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That's meant to be the same ship.

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Yeah.

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Which also means then they went to LV-421 and this entire old civilization that's been

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wiped out wasn't picked up from the scanning.

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They didn't fly around the planet and go, oh look, there's an ancient civilization used

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to be here.

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I can only assume the storms destroy it because there's lots of weird storms.

374
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Yeah.

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There's just not enough is explained or too much is left to not actually work properly.

376
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Yeah.

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Because yeah, that ship that he took is meant to be the ship they see in the first Alien

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film because you've got the pilot-

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Not the ship that he took in the second film.

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As in not, because he takes a ship-

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Prometheus, they take the ship at the end of Prometheus.

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Oh, yeah, sorry, but then he takes-

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That's the ship that's meant to be in the first Alien.

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Right.

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Sorry, I was getting confused then because he flies off in the ship with all the humans

386
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in at the end of Covenant, doesn't he?

387
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He steals the human ship.

388
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They take the ship at the end of Prometheus.

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Yeah, they do and they crash that into the planet in Covenant, which basically means

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that is LV-421.

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That's meant to be LV-421.

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But it's got an entire ancient civilization on there and no one noticed.

393
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Yeah, I don't know.

394
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Yeah, plot holes.

395
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This is why you have to just pretend it's not Alien film.

396
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They also leave the planet absolutely running with aliens.

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Yeah.

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They weren't there in the first film.

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It was just the facehuggers and a single alien.

400
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Well-

401
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And they went in the ship.

402
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You could argue it's a big planet and maybe they all migrate to a different part of the

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planet.

404
00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,760
It's like saying there's a lot of people in China.

405
00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:58,400
Yeah, but you could argue that, but in Aliens, she tells the story and then you're led to

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believe that basically Burt goes off and tells the people, the terraformers, the colonists,

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there's a ship nearby.

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You haven't seen it, go and look and see if it's there.

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And then, oh, we've lost contact with it.

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So that ship is meant to be full of aliens or facehuggers, at least we know.

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It's just too much of Prometheus and Covenant didn't work with what was currently known

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because of Alien and Aliens.

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It's almost like they kind of said, oh, I know we've got to fit it in with these two

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films, but we've already had the ideas about what we want to do.

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So we're going to do that and just really, really try and shoehorn it in.

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I know you're a size 11, but...

417
00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:42,720
Sorry, yeah, I know you're a size 11, but all we've got is a size nine shoe.

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You won't mind it for like 10 minutes.

419
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Actually you do.

420
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:53,720
They do this with films sometimes is that they get scripts for other films and then

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they work them into being scripts for different films.

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So you could, I think there's an argument for saying Prometheus could very well have

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been a half script for its own sci-fi and then was picked up by them as like, let's

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change this a bit.

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We can make this Alien prequel and then they're stuck with certain choices there to then move

426
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and then like, oh, this actually did really well.

427
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Let's do another one.

428
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We've got Fastbender in, we can get him in again.

429
00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:29,480
I mean, wasn't Prometheus and Covenant, one of them was Ridley Scott, wasn't it?

430
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The second one was Ridley Scott, I'm pretty sure, yeah.

431
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Well, I'll double check it, but yeah, it's...

432
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It was just, yeah, for me, it was no way near the quality of any of them.

433
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Even Alien 3, in my opinion, is better than Prometheus or Covenant.

434
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I don't know.

435
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,680
I think that...

436
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You're right, Ridley Scott for Covenant and for Prometheus.

437
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Oh, for Aprius as well, did he?

438
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,680
Yeah, which is, I know he's not the writer, he's the director, so you can't go by that,

439
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can you?

440
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You've got to go by the writers of this.

441
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But as a director, wouldn't you have said, I remember the original goal of the first

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film.

443
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This doesn't really work.

444
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Prometheus is better than Covenant, that I feel comfortable in saying.

445
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Covenant just...

446
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Some of the CGI choices they made for the aliens just looked awful.

447
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And then the story just...

448
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Because we've tiered these films before already, but now after kind of watching them all again,

449
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yeah, there's some...

450
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The fourth one is the worst one, I think, without counting Alien versus Predator.

451
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I haven't seen... because if you go on Disney and they categorize all the films together,

452
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so AVP gets put in there, and then the second AVP films in there, and then so is Prey.

453
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I haven't seen Prey yet.

454
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I haven't seen Prey, but it got highly rated.

455
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So I would actually really like to see that at some point.

456
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But that's just Predator, right?

457
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I don't think that's...

458
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That's it.

459
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There's no Alien as far as I'm aware in there.

460
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,320
So then how come the other two Predator films aren't placed in there?

461
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So Predator 1 and 2, why aren't they in this group?

462
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If they're putting Prey, which is supposedly a prequel to any of the Predator stuff, why

463
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has that been bundled in?

464
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Don't forget, so the Alien versus Predator thing happened.

465
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There were two reasons it happened.

466
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You had a cartoon, a comic strip that was made of Alien versus Predator.

467
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I thought the game was the first thing.

468
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Was the game the first thing?

469
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I just thought that.

470
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I don't know if it's true.

471
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So there was definitely a game...

472
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Oh no, what the...

473
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The one on the PC?

474
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No, no, no.

475
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,560
So there was an Alien versus Predator before that.

476
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,560
Oh, what was it?

477
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,560
Oh, it was on the...

478
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,560
The Speccy or something?

479
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Atari Jaguar.

480
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:46,560
Oh, okay.

481
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,560
And that was a first person shooter.

482
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It's one of the...

483
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,200
It's actually a very good first person shooter.

484
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The computer one's great.

485
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Oh, the whole story about how I won that one.

486
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I can tell you that.

487
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,640
That's an amazing game.

488
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:04,160
But no, there was a comic strip of Alien versus Predator, pretty similar to the comic strips

489
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that released a Robocop versus Terminator.

490
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It was just one of those 70s...

491
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Not 70s, 80s or 90s mishmash things that...

492
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What would happen if this happened?

493
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So they did it.

494
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And obviously you'd got Predator 1, which is a phenomenal film.

495
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You've got Predator 2, which actually I really like.

496
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People don't like...

497
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I like Predator 2.

498
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And you've got the bit where Danny Garver goes into the Predator ship and there's the

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00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,080
Xenomorph skull.

500
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,600
So there's your tie, basically.

501
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:33,320
That's the really, really loose tie of them going, let's make an Alien versus Predator

502
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,240
film because now we can say they've been coming to Earth hunting the Xenomorphs.

503
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,240
And it's just...

504
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,360
The biggest problem with it.

505
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:42,440
Do you remember the first AVP?

506
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:50,720
Okay, well at the very end, there's the lead female character and there's one Predator

507
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,720
left.

508
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,720
Is this in the pyramid?

509
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,720
Yes.

510
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,720
Okay.

511
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,720
That's the one I remember.

512
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,560
She helps the Predator and they escape together.

513
00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,560
And then what?

514
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,560
He takes her skull?

515
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,560
Because why would you have her?

516
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,000
Realistically, if that was a real Predator, it'd be, right, thanks.

517
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,000
You got me out.

518
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,880
Punch through the forehead, you're dead.

519
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:12,000
There is absolutely zero chance they would be like, oh, okay, I'm not going to kill you.

520
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,160
There is zero respect there.

521
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,240
The reason Danny Glover didn't get killed was because he killed a fucking Predator.

522
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,680
He got respect for being a hunter because he killed the hunter.

523
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,680
She cut him loose.

524
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,400
He's going to be like...

525
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,920
Is the idea that Predators are a race that they have to, almost like Spartans, and they

526
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:36,760
have to do this Predator thing to mature in part of their social...

527
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,760
I honestly don't know.

528
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:43,520
I don't know if it's a social growth age thing, if it's just that they're a...

529
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,520
They just progress so far.

530
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,120
They like hunting and that's what they do.

531
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,640
I'm sure it is explained at some point.

532
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,720
I think it's explained in Predators, funny enough, the Adrian Brody film, which again

533
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,680
is just sheer trash.

534
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,880
I think they kind of explain it as, oh, they're a race of just hunters.

535
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:00,880
That's it.

536
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,880
That's all they do.

537
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,880
Nah, you got to have more than that.

538
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,880
Sorry.

539
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,880
No, I agree.

540
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,880
It's piss poor.

541
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,880
But anyway, sorry.

542
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,880
I'm going to drag it on again.

543
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,880
Oh, I wasn't reaching for the button.

544
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,880
I was putting my hand here.

545
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,880
No, no, no, no.

546
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,960
I'm just realising, Edgy, I have dragged this one on by just saying the word aliens, but

547
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,960
not monkeys this time.

548
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:22,120
I don't know what the hell's in there, but it's weird and pissed off, whatever it is.

549
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:23,120
What have you...

550
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,120
What?

551
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,120
Let's try that one again.

552
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:26,120
What have you watched, Rob?

553
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,120
I've been watching all the alien films.

554
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:29,120
Excellent.

555
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,120
Okay, shall we move on?

556
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:36,000
I'd say what I had been doing, you didn't see it because the screensaver came on just

557
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,000
before he came round.

558
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,720
We watched the first episode of Reacher.

559
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,520
Oh, season three?

560
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,520
Yep.

561
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,280
Oh, I can't wait for you to watch it.

562
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,840
I haven't watched season one or two yet.

563
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,120
I've only seen the clips of the sexy man-man thing.

564
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:53,120
You've never watched it?

565
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:54,120
I've only seen the sick top clips.

566
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:57,400
Oh my God, they're so good, TJ.

567
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,160
You'll really enjoy it.

568
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,920
They are genuinely very, very good.

569
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,960
I've got to watch those and because he's in it and Henry Cavill's in it, I've got to

570
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,000
watch the Ministry of Un-Gentlemenary Warfare as well.

571
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,840
Oh yeah, I'd like to watch that too, yeah.

572
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,840
Which I'm really looking forward to.

573
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,280
I just haven't had a chance to watch it.

574
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,480
That's on my list and I will start watching Reacher then.

575
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,480
I got a little bit annoyed because there's a shot of him in his boxer shorts and he's

576
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,480
blurred in the background.

577
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,480
I was like, get into focus!

578
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,280
And he doesn't get into focus for the whole shot.

579
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:36,840
I was like, what else have I been doing?

580
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,520
As you, I've played a little bit of trading card game simulator.

581
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,640
Trading card game shop simulator is...

582
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,560
I've lost too much time to it.

583
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,800
So much time dedicated to building my shop.

584
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:54,280
I've been almost for the past four days with the game, I've been changing the shop design

585
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,080
to see how best to lay it out.

586
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,360
I've got two auto centers to get the smelly people now and it still doesn't get them.

587
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:04,720
So I then still end up getting my little can of deodorant and spraying people.

588
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,240
You need to because they have to be sprayed twice.

589
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,240
That's what I've noticed.

590
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,240
I've got it right by the door.

591
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,560
So if they come in, they get sprayed.

592
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,920
And then if they come across the shop again, they'll get sprayed.

593
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,400
It's just really simple game and I know it's early access, but a lot of work's been put

594
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,400
into it.

595
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,440
The mechanics are actually really solid.

596
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,680
So what I'd like to see is more progression on that now.

597
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:34,720
So obviously the idea of the game people is to you own a shop and you sell this fictional

598
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,800
trading card game, which they've made.

599
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:43,440
I think there's over 200 cards, I think, that they've had artwork done.

600
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,560
They've got rules on health, but everything's done just like Pokemon cards.

601
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,600
And they've made all of these and you've got to basically buy licenses, choose what packs

602
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,840
you're going to sell, what additional things you're going to sell.

603
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,020
You put tables for people to play the game in.

604
00:26:56,020 --> 00:26:58,000
People come in and try and sell you the card.

605
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,600
Then you can sell the individual card.

606
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,440
You can open the card packets yourself and then sell them if you want.

607
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,400
It's really in-depth, but I'd like to see the card grading would be nice to come in.

608
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,080
Oh no, the card's a bit shitty, so we'll sell it at this price.

609
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,520
There's a fair few bits I'm looking forward to, especially decorating it like posters and

610
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,200
stuff because it's a bit bland at the moment.

611
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,880
I mark everything up.

612
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:28,540
As soon as it's on the shelf, you only actually have to press plus 10%, but I press market

613
00:27:28,540 --> 00:27:29,540
price then 10.

614
00:27:29,540 --> 00:27:32,840
The reason you do it is because the market price changes.

615
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,200
So every now and again, go out to press market price plus 10.

616
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:41,000
If I sell single cards, because you can open the card packs yourself, everything's 20%.

617
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,880
And then I watch what everyone says.

618
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,640
And if they go, oh, this is a good price, go over it, round it up, or add 10% until

619
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,640
they complain.

620
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,640
So that's the right price.

621
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,600
I've been doing 10% and round because that means I'm quicker on the till because there's

622
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,160
no sorting out pennies and stuff.

623
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,160
Yeah, I'm the same.

624
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,800
Do you ever get to the point where you're like, you fucker just gave me a 50 that only

625
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,240
cost you a few pence and now I'm there counting out all this fucking change.

626
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,960
And I'll be like, if there's some of them, I'll give them all one piece.

627
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,960
I'll sit and I'll tap one P 20 times.

628
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,960
So you've changed it to pounds and pennies as well.

629
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,080
Yeah, I'm like, fuck you, mate.

630
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,920
You can have 21 piece for that.

631
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,480
Yeah, it's just funny.

632
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,560
I've always liked simulation games.

633
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,560
They're my thing.

634
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,960
Sim City, especially in the Sims, both just key games of my childhood.

635
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,160
The original Sim City on Atari ST was the first one I played.

636
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,640
Sim City 2000 at my mate, Sim City 3000 at home, then the original Sim.

637
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,400
They are just my bread and butter for games.

638
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,560
And then this came along and it's like, actually, this is novel.

639
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,600
It's just different.

640
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,000
And I didn't even think about getting this.

641
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,280
The original one I looked at was going to be supermarket simulator where you set up

642
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,280
your own little supermarket.

643
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,280
That'd be quite cool.

644
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040
You have to start off as a little news agent and then build it up.

645
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,040
And then I just saw someone to put that and this one had so much higher kind of ratings.

646
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,960
So, yeah, and yeah, there's a mod for it.

647
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,440
Turns all the cards to Pokemon cards.

648
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,960
And the man or the development team, sorry, are looking at introduces so you can actually

649
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,120
start playing the card game so you can sit at the table and play the game with people.

650
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,120
So it will be an actual playable game.

651
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,080
There's just lots of things about it that's really, really nice.

652
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,080
It's fun.

653
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,320
We're going to check each other's shop out of them after recording.

654
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,320
Absolutely.

655
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,320
What else?

656
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,160
I've been playing more Final Fantasy.

657
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,720
I had a terrible realization when I was like, I'm on chapter seven.

658
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,600
Okay, that's quite far.

659
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,280
I've been playing it for 30 hours.

660
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,240
Okay, let me just see how many chapters there are.

661
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,240
14.

662
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Shit.

663
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,560
I'm not going to get a point from this game anytime soon.

664
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,960
So I have been playing that and avowed came out the other day.

665
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,960
So I had a little guy and avowed.

666
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,200
Sorry, if anyone can hear the microphones going crazy.

667
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,160
That's the dog under the table whacking into his heads at one end, his tails at the other

668
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,480
hitting both mic stands.

669
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,840
That's again by a city in a little bit kind of like Elder Scrolls.

670
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,960
Are you that kind of it's all right.

671
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,240
The controls that I think the controls are odd.

672
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,560
I'm sure it's fine on the computer when the controller all feels really floaty.

673
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:21,200
I had to like turn all the dead zones to basically zero.

674
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,360
So I felt like I moved and then there's a head Bob, which you can turn off but doesn't

675
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,720
actually turn off.

676
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,720
Oh, useful.

677
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,960
I guess on the computer called mouse acceleration, but they don't have a similar thing on the

678
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,960
controller.

679
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,480
So when you push further to the end, it's faster.

680
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,640
Yeah.

681
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,800
And but it's even with the dead zones being to zero, meaning as soon as you press the

682
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,600
control stick, it moves.

683
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,800
It really slowly ramps up to it and it just makes I don't feel like I'm connected to the

684
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,800
character.

685
00:30:54,800 --> 00:31:01,080
Oh yeah, you get that weird disconnect where like you in sludge or very similar if you've

686
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,160
ever played a game where you've played an online game and you've got lag.

687
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,160
Yeah.

688
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,920
So you're walking forward, but it feels like your character is actually walking forward

689
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560
a little bit behind what you're trying to do.

690
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,160
Everything's disjointed.

691
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600
And we're talking like a millisecond.

692
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:22,360
It's just enough that you notice it, but not enough that it's going to stop you playing

693
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,360
it.

694
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,360
But there's just something.

695
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:29,440
And the other thing is like you, I don't feel like I'm in a world.

696
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,320
It's a very pretty looking game.

697
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,400
The characters are cool and all the conversations.

698
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,680
I'm playing a wanker.

699
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,920
I don't often play wankers in games, but something about this one, same with Baldur's Gate.

700
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,560
When I play that little times I play that, I'm playing a wanker.

701
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,160
I don't know why I chose chosen these.

702
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,440
So they've gone for looks over substance.

703
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,480
I think they've gone for looks first above all else and the rest of the game has appeared

704
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,280
after that.

705
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,600
And you know, it's little things.

706
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,600
Okay.

707
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,480
There's a table in front of you.

708
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,040
Looks beautifully crafted table, lovely textures on it.

709
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,280
It's got bowls of fruit.

710
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,440
If I hit that bowl of fruit, the bowl of fruit should fall over.

711
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,040
No, this is all you see.

712
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,840
You cannot do that in this day and age.

713
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:20,120
The fact that the 1997 game Duke Nukem 3D, you could walk around.

714
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,600
There's a toilet there, shot it.

715
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,600
Boom, it's gone.

716
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Shoot your iron.

717
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,600
Boom.

718
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Water's pissing out of it.

719
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,600
Oh, look, snooker table.

720
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,600
Shoot the balls.

721
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,080
They ping around the table with physics and you can pop them.

722
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:37,440
The fact you could do that in a 1997 build engine game in current generation stuff, nothing

723
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,200
should not be destructible.

724
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:45,000
So I watched a comparison video today, avowed versus oblivion.

725
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:51,640
So oblivion, if you shoot a tree with an arrow wedged locks into the tree.

726
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Sounds like wood.

727
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,240
Shoot stone wall, falls on the floor.

728
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,360
Nine avowed, sticks to everything.

729
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,640
And sometimes it sticks to it with a good massive gap between the end of the arrow and

730
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,640
the wall.

731
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,520
You walk up into a shop or anywhere in oblivion.

732
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,800
Every single item has got physics.

733
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,440
You walk into a table, you knock everything off the table.

734
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,440
Nothing happens in avowed.

735
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,440
You, I don't think the arrows.

736
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,780
You shoot arrow straight up in the air in oblivion.

737
00:33:18,780 --> 00:33:19,780
They come back down again.

738
00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:21,480
They never come back down again in avowed.

739
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,200
They just disappear into the void.

740
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:29,440
You walk up to into a shop and steal something off the counter.

741
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,440
Everyone fucking hates you in oblivion.

742
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Like the shop owner will start berating you.

743
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,440
Unless you put a bucket over their head so they can't see.

744
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,440
Yeah.

745
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,440
The shop owner will start berating you.

746
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,080
If you keep doing it, they'll go and find a guard.

747
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,520
The guards will then chase you, put you in jail.

748
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,520
And they don't forget.

749
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,400
Or find you or kill you.

750
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,280
Nothing happens in avowed.

751
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,960
You walk into a town in oblivion and you can attack any NPC.

752
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,540
The only NPCs you can't kill are story mission NPCs.

753
00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:58,000
Side mission NPCs you can kill and you just fail the side mission.

754
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,080
Story mission ones you can't.

755
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,640
In avowed, you cannot attack anybody who isn't an enemy.

756
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,240
Let's face it, oblivion is an old game now.

757
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,240
I know.

758
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,240
19 years old I'm pretty sure.

759
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,840
I know there's the constant joke that even by the time GTA 6 will come out, there'll

760
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,160
be another race of Elder Scrolls, Oblivion or whatever.

761
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,160
Skyrim is the one they were saying.

762
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,160
Skyrim, isn't it?

763
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,160
Yeah.

764
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,160
Oblivion, release today.

765
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,160
Elder Scrolls, Skyrim.

766
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,160
It's like, oh for fuck's sake.

767
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:30,240
But you can't release a modern game of that style and expect people to accept that now.

768
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:31,680
Because that's absolutely rotten.

769
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,240
I mean, I know it's not the same style game.

770
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:37,400
It's a first person shooter I'm talking about here, but it's a stalker.

771
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,760
Shadow of Chernobyl.

772
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:46,320
That was probably the first game that I remember playing where NPCs properly remember what

773
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,080
you did and it affects how you play the game.

774
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,040
And I was a dick in that game.

775
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,280
Everyone I came across got killed no matter if they were good or evil.

776
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,480
And it got to the point I could not complete the game.

777
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:06,560
I got about halfway through and then basically the bad guys wanted to kill me.

778
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,920
The good guys wanted to kill me.

779
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,020
No one would give me health.

780
00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:11,600
No one would give me ammo.

781
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,760
I couldn't go anywhere without being shot at from both sides.

782
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,120
I'd completely fucked the game.

783
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,120
I'd ruined it for myself.

784
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,160
So I had to go back and start all over again and actually not be such an asshole.

785
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,600
But that was good.

786
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,200
And again, talking about physics, best one for that.

787
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,840
And I wish I still had the video of it.

788
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:35,080
At the very beginning of Stalker, you're in this kind of little, and they're not caravans,

789
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,040
but they're kind of mobile home bits and you're going through and you've got to get your gun.

790
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,760
You get given your first mission and you head out.

791
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,640
And one of the things you come across is these three men stood around a fire.

792
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,000
One's got a guitar and he's playing happily along and they're just NPCs.

793
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,920
And I remember throwing a grenade into these people and exploding and the guitar just disappeared.

794
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,640
I thought, oh well, everything's blown up.

795
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,920
Literally then started walking about 15 seconds later.

796
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,640
This guitar randomly lands next to me.

797
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,640
It's like, there it is.

798
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,120
Yeah, the old games that as something that Oblivion used to do, that would happen.

799
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,120
Exactly.

800
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,500
But no, I don't accept that.

801
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:22,360
You cannot release a game to anybody now and expect them to accept that standard that you've

802
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,360
told us.

803
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,360
No.

804
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,360
Yeah.

805
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,480
The thing is that graphically, it's very pretty.

806
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,040
There's one last thing I want to say about that game in particular is that opening chest

807
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,440
is proper blue balls as you.

808
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,040
It's so dissatisfying.

809
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,400
You see this beautifully massive chest.

810
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,400
It's got sparkly noises.

811
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,760
It's very good looking.

812
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,760
Gold sparkles and all kinds of things.

813
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,760
And you go, boom, great noise.

814
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:45,760
And you go to opening, it's like shink.

815
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,760
It creaks open a little bit like that and then just stops and then you get all the items.

816
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,760
Oh.

817
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,800
I want to hear a crunch, the whole leg come off the top.

818
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,800
Sea of Thieves style.

819
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,800
Yeah.

820
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,800
Yeah.

821
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,560
Sea of Thieves has got great chest opening.

822
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,560
Exactly.

823
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,560
Yeah.

824
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,400
And yeah, it really just like, it's like it's just about to deep throw you but then he walks

825
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,400
off.

826
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,400
Yeah.

827
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:17,360
And he's just there ready to help you out a little bit, finish yourself off.

828
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,360
So it's like, right.

829
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,040
We spent 300 hours developing the world.

830
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,040
Yeah.

831
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,040
It looks beautiful.

832
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,040
Doesn't it?

833
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,040
How long did we spend on the story?

834
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,280
Well, I don't know about the story so far.

835
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,920
What I have liked about the writing and someone else who I watch on YouTube, Co Carnage, his

836
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,960
name is, he's got, I think he's the same age as us.

837
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,040
He's like got kids.

838
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,960
He seems like a dad who plays games.

839
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,440
I think you'd like him.

840
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:49,000
He played like the Dragon Age Veil Guard that came out recently and slated that saying that

841
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,360
it's the writers that have ruined this game.

842
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,400
Whereas this one is like the writers done a good job.

843
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,520
Like you're having conversations.

844
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,920
You feel like you're actually having a conversation with someone who's in the world because they're

845
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,240
giving you law back.

846
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:04,360
They're not trying to pass some social critique on to you that isn't part of this world.

847
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,440
It's all in world.

848
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,440
It's all great.

849
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,880
I would say so far why I've actually a lot of times some of these games, I do skip the

850
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,840
tech sometimes I just, I just want to find something.

851
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,840
Fuck off.

852
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,360
I don't actually care about talking to you right now.

853
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,920
I know exactly what I'll get the test.

854
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,920
I'll get the quest tracker.

855
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,920
That's enough.

856
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,920
Was this one I've actually enjoyed speaking to.

857
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,280
I've only played like two hours of it.

858
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,960
So my probably not even two hours, but what the conversations I have had of it, I've actually

859
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,960
reasonably enjoyed.

860
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,760
But yeah, anyway, last thing.

861
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,160
So about I've been playing the thing game.

862
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,560
Oh, PS two one.

863
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,560
Yes.

864
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,560
The re re master of it.

865
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Oh, okay.

866
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,520
This is on the PS five, but it is.

867
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,800
So I had the Xbox one originally, the original Xbox one.

868
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,320
I played on that originally.

869
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,920
And now I own it still on the original Xbox.

870
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,520
And I think I have a PS two version of it as well.

871
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,800
And then the remaster come out and it's so I question why I gave me some vouchers at

872
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,800
Christmas.

873
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,800
So I brought it back.

874
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,800
Oh, nice.

875
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,140
And yeah, it's just as good as I remember it.

876
00:39:05,140 --> 00:39:12,800
It's the first game I played with T. So when T was probably so just before he was born.

877
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,600
So before it would give him PTSD.

878
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,160
But yeah, he didn't can easily age.

879
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,160
You wouldn't be able to see the TV.

880
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,160
Just for his born.

881
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,160
I got it on eBay.

882
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,160
Do you remember I told you a story?

883
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,160
I do.

884
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,160
Yes.

885
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,160
Yes.

886
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,160
And loads of games got an Xbox.

887
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,040
I was playing it on that and he was sat on my lap and was looking in the direction of

888
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,600
the screen, which I'm pretty sure they can't see more than a few feet.

889
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,640
No, just be light and colour.

890
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,800
But I was playing that.

891
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,880
So that's kind of like a thing I've got as a memory that the first game we played together

892
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,880
was the thing.

893
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,920
So playing the remaster remaster is great.

894
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,960
How much does it follow the film?

895
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,600
It's, it doesn't follow film.

896
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,600
It's a sequel.

897
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Oh, it's a sequel.

898
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,040
It follows on straight from the end.

899
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,880
Oh, yeah.

900
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,680
So the obviously this is going to be full of spoilers for the thing.

901
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,680
So I can talk about it.

902
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,040
I can't tell Miranda because she she hasn't seen the end.

903
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,320
Well, no, she has now.

904
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,320
Yeah.

905
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,520
So I can talk about some random because now she's seen the end of the thing.

906
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,000
So where are they all die at the end of the thing?

907
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:11,160
So you now play another group of military people coming to find out where the fucking

908
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,160
hell is everybody?

909
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,920
Why have we not heard from the station?

910
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:20,920
And then you go to the Norwegian station first, I think, find the spaceship.

911
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,760
Oh, what the fuck's all this?

912
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,960
Then you go to the American one.

913
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,960
That's where the game happens.

914
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,960
Right.

915
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,880
And you find the tape recordings from that he left, he left and then obviously it all

916
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,720
starts going wrong because the thing is still there.

917
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,120
So it didn't die when didn't die.

918
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,560
Oh, because as you know, from the film, it's every single cell is a thing.

919
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,560
Yes.

920
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,560
You know, an arm gets chopped off.

921
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,520
Well, that's now another entity of the thing.

922
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,520
It's like a big.

923
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,520
Yeah.

924
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,520
Kind of a bad thing to blow up, I guess.

925
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,520
But we'll talk about that.

926
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,040
Yeah, I've got a comment about that.

927
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,040
Let's get on to that.

928
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,720
We're going to draw a little bit of everybody's blood.

929
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:04,160
We're going to find out who's the thing.

930
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:11,280
So the, in my opinion, masterpiece, John Carpenter's The Thing, 1982.

931
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,720
Yeah, it's one of the and now I'm going to be honest here.

932
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:17,440
Never seen it before.

933
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,440
It's not one that I sat down and watched.

934
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,480
I know all the main clips for it, all the main bits that almost anyone knows when you

935
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:30,000
talk about the thing like the CPR scene, you know, the bits people know because they're

936
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,000
the most kind of televised bits of like some of the best sci fi or best practical effects

937
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,880
or most gory things.

938
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,280
So people will have seen them.

939
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,080
I've never actually sat through the whole film.

940
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:49,320
And I would say having done that now, it is definitely one of the top films of all time

941
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,480
it is one of my favorites.

942
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,320
I watched it because my old man just, he had it on VHS and I would always see it there

943
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,920
and always loved the box art.

944
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:07,040
Yeah, the box art's brilliant with the fur kind of outline of the coat, but no face.

945
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,040
Yeah.

946
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:13,640
And the just the way the thing is written as well, just the font and the kind of design

947
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,800
of the logo of it is just like really eye catching.

948
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,000
It's a really attractive look.

949
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,560
And he would go on about it all the times and he'd be like, the thing's going to get

950
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,120
you and never ever explained to me what it was.

951
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,200
Kind of the way he told me about Deliverance without ever telling me what was in Deliverance,

952
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,080
just telling me I had to watch it.

953
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,080
It's the similar kind of things.

954
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,080
Like you just have to watch this film.

955
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,080
And I can understand that.

956
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:42,480
And you cannot do and I'm not expecting us to do justice to the thing by just talking

957
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,480
about it.

958
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,200
If you haven't seen it, you've got to just watch it.

959
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,200
And we're not talking about the modern remake of it.

960
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,000
Oh dear God, don't watch the modern one.

961
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,120
The 1982 original, because that is all you need.

962
00:42:54,120 --> 00:43:01,400
And it stands up perfectly because the practical effects are so fucking brilliant and really

963
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,760
like hands over your eyes, kind of gruesome.

964
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,840
There's a couple really decent jump scares.

965
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,840
Yes.

966
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,720
You know, the testing scene, there's a jump scare there.

967
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:18,080
It gets me every single time, every time the jump scare gets me.

968
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,080
It's even quite funny.

969
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:25,840
There's some moments of actual kind of dark humour kind of comedy thing, you know, when

970
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,640
like get me out of this fucking chair.

971
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:37,680
When the thing dog version gets taken into the other huskies and you just get the worms

972
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,000
for the first time, the tinn school, sorry I should say.

973
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,000
It's horrible.

974
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:48,680
Yeah, I just, I need to watch a video of how they made it because I can't firstly, I don't

975
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,280
know how they made the intro where, because they haven't got CGI.

976
00:43:53,280 --> 00:44:00,200
So how did they make it where it rips the screen off to reveal the word, the thing?

977
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,600
How did they do that?

978
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,680
Just animation and green screen and all sorts.

979
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,200
I don't think they had green screen.

980
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,800
Of course they did.

981
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,800
Green screen's been around.

982
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,160
I suppose they would have had it, they did it in Star Wars didn't they?

983
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,040
They did it in the original Superman remember.

984
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,200
It's been around for a lot longer than you think it has.

985
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:24,640
But no, it's, yeah, it's just been very, very cleverly edited and a lot of hard work painstakingly

986
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:29,600
frame by frame done with animators and everything else like that.

987
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:35,440
Don't forget the, I would say the film industry as much as people that work in it now obviously

988
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,920
love what they do and we'd never criticise that because obviously it's their job whether

989
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,000
we like what they've created is another matter.

990
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,640
But I feel that the film industry back then, especially when you consider things like Star

991
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:56,480
Wars, when you see the Darth Vader's shuttle land on the Death Star, even to this day,

992
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:03,800
I find it hard to believe that 90% of that scene is just a painting on screen.

993
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:04,800
It's not real.

994
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,280
It's just a painting.

995
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:13,160
But the sheer effort that was put into to make it look as good as it does and that's

996
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,280
what you get with the thing.

997
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,280
You don't get that now.

998
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,520
It's just done with, it's done with computers, done with CGI and people come to think, but

999
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,240
yeah, look, it looks so much more real because people are moving around.

1000
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:26,880
There's no warmth or love to it is what I kind of get from that.

1001
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,560
But you're right.

1002
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,560
It's just phenomenal.

1003
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,560
Absolutely phenomenal.

1004
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:43,080
It's just, I don't know any film that, because clearly like the practical effects, it's a

1005
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:50,400
weird one because it's quite, because it's so grotesque, so odd to look at and so weird,

1006
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,280
you kind of like, you know it's not real.

1007
00:45:53,280 --> 00:46:01,040
But at the same time, we're just like, but it's so fucking brilliant and so gross.

1008
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:07,920
I think what is key to remember here, there's two ways you can look at it and there's two

1009
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,600
definite ways to look at it, I should say.

1010
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:18,360
When it is the thing being the thing, it's quite obviously fake, but still done beautifully.

1011
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:26,600
So the chest opening and closing, crushing his hands, for example, the head peeling off

1012
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,720
the body just after it's been flamethrower.

1013
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:32,080
While the face is twitching and all of that.

1014
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,080
Brilliant.

1015
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:38,400
The dog scene when all the tentacles kind of just go out of it and the spit on the dog

1016
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,560
and everything like that.

1017
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,220
It's quite clearly fake.

1018
00:46:42,220 --> 00:46:45,560
It's gruesome and it's amazing to see.

1019
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:52,520
However, if you made that look hyper realistic, even back then, I think you would have ended

1020
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:58,720
up being either making it an X-rated or it potentially like Event Horizon told you can't

1021
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:01,800
release this unless you make massive changes.

1022
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,960
Yet, the other part of the film, the bit that isn't designed to scare you but just more

1023
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:12,280
make you go, oh my God, is the mutants.

1024
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,240
And those, now those look fucking real and disgraceful.

1025
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:23,640
But the mutated two heads that they recover from the Norwegian one and bring back to do

1026
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,960
the autopsy on.

1027
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,960
It's not alive.

1028
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,960
There's no jump scare from it.

1029
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,400
It doesn't need to scare you.

1030
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:36,300
The only thing it needs to do is be really fucking unsettling and they've done it perfectly.

1031
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:37,840
So I think there's a really good mix.

1032
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,840
There's kind of this, it's quite obviously fake.

1033
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,160
So I can enjoy watching this without feeling really freaked out.

1034
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,200
And then I can feel freaked out by the thing that I know it's not going to get me because

1035
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,680
it's already dead.

1036
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,680
Yeah.

1037
00:47:52,680 --> 00:48:01,400
It's really good as well with bringing you, the watcher, into the tension of not knowing

1038
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,760
who's changed, who's been taken over.

1039
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,200
Because at some point, everyone has an excuse of why they've been alone.

1040
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,200
Yeah.

1041
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,360
I mean, it's a real play on a murder mystery, isn't it?

1042
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,360
It's a real, it's Cluedo.

1043
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,360
Yeah.

1044
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,760
It's Cluedo the thing edition.

1045
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,760
Yeah.

1046
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:25,080
It was Doc with the pistol in the boiler room, you know, sort of thing.

1047
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,600
Because yeah, you're right.

1048
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:34,400
Every single person's got a reason to be on their own, but you don't necessarily see all

1049
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,920
of that, but you're led to believe it anyway.

1050
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:46,680
Like the whole point is, is we know, is Doc, isn't it, the doctor, we know he's not crazy.

1051
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:52,000
We know he's only smashing everything up because he's done that computer simulation that says

1052
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:57,920
it cannot leave here, but everyone just assumes he must be the thing.

1053
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,200
Well it turns out he is.

1054
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:05,600
One of them later on, at some point he changes, but we don't know when he changes.

1055
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,600
Exactly.

1056
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,800
It's only one of the first times I kind of thought in the film, kind of dropping the

1057
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,520
ball a little bit here.

1058
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,560
Yeah.

1059
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:18,000
You've left this bloke locked in a room on his own while telling everyone else, no one

1060
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,600
else is allowed to go anywhere without someone being with them.

1061
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:25,760
So we know no one has been taken over, but you're quite happy to leave him out on his

1062
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:31,720
own in the middle of nowhere in the snowstorm, not guaranteeing that someone's not going

1063
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:34,520
to crawl in and change.

1064
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaking of the Infection of the Whole World, did you notice how many hours it reckoned?

1065
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:41,240
29,000?

1066
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:42,240
27,000.

1067
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:44,240
Oh, that was close.

1068
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:51,640
Yeah, 27,000 hours from first contact, the whole world population taking over.

1069
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,400
Yeah it's interesting, and now that doctor's been building his own spaceship underground.

1070
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:02,720
Well yeah, so the thing obviously is, so actually let me just, I knew about the thing, yeah.

1071
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,000
I knew about the film existing.

1072
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,960
I knew very little about it.

1073
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:13,920
I knew that it was this weird thing that was like becoming whatever it was to kind of carry

1074
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,920
on, yeah?

1075
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1076
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,560
I just always assumed it was some sort of parasite or something that they dug up in

1077
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,640
the ice, which is why it's based in Antarctica, blah, blah, blah.

1078
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:30,080
I had no idea at the very, very, very first scene you see is the UFO crashing.

1079
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,080
I had no idea.

1080
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,080
That's the intro.

1081
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,600
It was an alien film basically.

1082
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,280
I had no idea that.

1083
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,760
Because that's it.

1084
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:42,200
The spaceship is crashing and then as it crashes, that's when you get the thing logo appear.

1085
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:47,280
It's basically the words scrolling up like in Star Wars is the spaceship crashing.

1086
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,480
But I guess one of the things that then thinking about it now, not thinking about it then,

1087
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,080
because obviously I got really actually quite into the film and lost myself in it, which

1088
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,120
is always a good sign of any film.

1089
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,720
If you can lose yourself in it and not realise how much time has passed and what is going

1090
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:03,440
on around you, brilliant.

1091
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,880
But thinking back on it now, what exactly is the thing?

1092
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:16,120
We know it is this thing that this ability to clone whatever it touches and take it over

1093
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,940
and then become its own thing.

1094
00:51:19,940 --> 00:51:21,440
So whose is the spaceship?

1095
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,600
Is that just another alien race?

1096
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,280
And he's basically, or this thing has taken over one of this alien race and then stolen

1097
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,280
one of their spaceships.

1098
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,680
Is it its own race of people?

1099
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,680
And if it's its own race of people, what does it originally look like without cloning something?

1100
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:41,280
So I don't think they stole the ship because they build their own.

1101
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,400
So that happens.

1102
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,680
So they know how the thing knows how to make space travel because they're making one.

1103
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,000
They're making a ship.

1104
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,960
Whether that's to get off the planet or to get off of Antarctica, who knows?

1105
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,360
So does that mean on a cellular base, because remember it's per cell, as we said earlier,

1106
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,680
per cell has the ability to have all of that knowledge.

1107
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:11,160
I think it is a single cell organism that has, what is it when the all thoughts are

1108
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,160
into one?

1109
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,800
What's that called?

1110
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:14,800
Being a Borg.

1111
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,800
Star Wars content.

1112
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,200
Yeah, no, but like supposedly ants kind of have it.

1113
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,200
Oh, hang on.

1114
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,200
Star Trek content, not Star Wars.

1115
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,200
No, no, no, we don't talk about Star Trek.

1116
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,960
Yeah, no, but I just called Star Trek Star Wars.

1117
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,960
Sorry.

1118
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,040
It's a game called where you all think like a hive mind.

1119
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,040
A hive mind colony.

1120
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:36,120
It's a single cell hive mind where maybe this is kind of, obviously it's too far away or

1121
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,840
broken off from its main planet or whatever.

1122
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,760
For all we know, the planet is just goo, like the pink goo in Ghostbusters.

1123
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,520
That's where planet is just goo and it's all this organism.

1124
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:57,840
And yeah, it could be COVID, it's COVID that has super evolved and become this hive mind

1125
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,800
thing and just wants to spread.

1126
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,840
It's a disease that just wants to spread.

1127
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,360
How was the best way to spread?

1128
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:09,280
A lot of germs hide themselves because they want to do the most spreading.

1129
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,800
Well, it's almost, I would say it's parasitic.

1130
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,800
Yeah, yeah.

1131
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:18,040
That's probably the better thing is what it does because it takes over, takes over the

1132
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,040
cells.

1133
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,720
We have really wicked computer animation that they could have.

1134
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:23,720
I loved that.

1135
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:28,920
It's so, so of the era, but so cleverly done as well.

1136
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:34,960
And since when did we stop giving actors real flame throwers?

1137
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:42,640
Because I wrote that on my phone and I was thinking, well, once upon a time in Hollywood,

1138
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,520
they give Leonardo DiCaprio has one.

1139
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,960
I've seen the trivia on this and apparently go in the film, he says something like, can

1140
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,960
we turn this down?

1141
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:51,960
Can we turn this?

1142
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,120
And that was, that wasn't part of the film.

1143
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,960
That was Leonardo DiCaprio say, can we turn it down a bit?

1144
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,400
It was because he was getting hot.

1145
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:04,080
That's the only time I can think of someone can write in, someone please write in, that

1146
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,480
they give them real fucking flame throwers.

1147
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,720
These guys are clearly walking around with flame throwers of an alien.

1148
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:10,720
Aliens.

1149
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:14,840
Apart from other than the alien films, you know, why did we stop giving people flame

1150
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,840
throwers?

1151
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,840
Yes.

1152
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:17,840
Such a good one.

1153
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,840
Bring them back.

1154
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,480
And not just the ones that Elon Musk's company was giving.

1155
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,480
Oh no, Dickhead.

1156
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,000
Let's not even talk about him.

1157
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,400
I want more flame throwers.

1158
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,400
Yeah.

1159
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:27,400
They always look good.

1160
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,400
Yeah.

1161
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,240
And yeah, excluding war films, obviously, because things like Good Morning Vietnam, there's

1162
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:35,160
flame throwers in that because it's the Vietnam rule.

1163
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,160
Yeah.

1164
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,560
So anything war based, you can kind of avoid from that because it's expected.

1165
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:40,560
But you're right.

1166
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,840
As a weapon for action films, it's so good.

1167
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:45,840
Yeah.

1168
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:51,120
Like instead of having, we call them cunt cannons, but the grenade attachment to a assault

1169
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,840
rifle, having a canister for a flame throw under the, how fucking cool would that be?

1170
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,840
That's why Warhammer 40k was so good, wasn't it?

1171
00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,840
Oh yeah.

1172
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,680
Got flamers as like, yeah, let's make things cook.

1173
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,320
That's why I always play the flame throw guy in Helldivers and I always get every flame

1174
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,320
item possible.

1175
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,920
I'm the fireman.

1176
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,240
Yeah.

1177
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:17,760
You're the fireman and I'm the on fireman.

1178
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,920
Just I don't know.

1179
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:27,960
I feel like I love the film so much, but it feels like I can't talk about it for 45 minutes

1180
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,480
because not because it's bad.

1181
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,800
It's just so fucking good.

1182
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,680
I want people to watch it.

1183
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,280
It's so neatly contained as well.

1184
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,240
It's not a massive sprawling thing.

1185
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:45,840
There's like seven or eight guys trying to figure out which one's the bad guy.

1186
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:53,840
There is something to be said for when a film limits itself to a very small number of sets.

1187
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,560
So if you think you've got the handful of buildings at their location, you've got the

1188
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:05,640
burnt out location at the Norwegian camp and you've got the location of the UFO.

1189
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:06,880
That is it.

1190
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,160
And everything is in those.

1191
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:14,000
Whereas you take something like the born identity where it's pinging across the world, pinging

1192
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,160
across cityscapes and everything like that.

1193
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:24,520
It loses believability because you just think, yeah, but you're opening up to so many people's

1194
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,440
eyes, ears and what's going on.

1195
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:33,280
Whereas limiting it like this is perfect because it makes it so much more believable, especially

1196
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,360
then cutting them off as you would be in Antarctica's perfect.

1197
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,080
Absolutely ideal.

1198
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,940
And it makes it really believable the paranoia that they all have and their real characters

1199
00:56:42,940 --> 00:56:43,940
coming out.

1200
00:56:43,940 --> 00:56:44,940
Yes.

1201
00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:48,680
You know, I like when they're trying to decide who's going to be the new boss because the

1202
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,120
real boss has just died.

1203
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,600
So like who's no, no, no, no.

1204
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,600
No, no, no.

1205
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,440
He has the gun over, doesn't he?

1206
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,960
So you don't want me to be the boss.

1207
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,720
So and he puts it down and nobody wants it.

1208
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:02,840
Child goes for it.

1209
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,200
So Kurt Russell's character snatches off as I think we need someone with a bit more of

1210
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,200
an even temper.

1211
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,200
Yeah.

1212
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:15,400
So Charles played by Keith David who does like every single fucking voice in every game

1213
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,400
you've ever heard of.

1214
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,400
Yeah.

1215
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,000
And he's a commissioner Kempsey, I think for Armageddon.

1216
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,000
Yes.

1217
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,000
He's in Armageddon.

1218
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,000
Yeah.

1219
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,840
He's one of those voices you'd recognize.

1220
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,100
And even then I was kind of watching it going, why do I know his voice?

1221
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:33,040
And it's because his voice is just so widespread.

1222
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,040
Yeah.

1223
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,040
And it hasn't changed.

1224
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,040
That's the weird thing.

1225
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,040
As he's got older, his voice has just stayed the same.

1226
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,400
I'm just not going to count here.

1227
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,640
There's 21 results for actors in this film.

1228
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,640
21.

1229
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,960
And again, one of them's a dog.

1230
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:49,960
Yeah.

1231
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,800
And, and one's the voice of a computer.

1232
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,080
So that's two done.

1233
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,120
I mean, arguably you could have actually limited it even more.

1234
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,040
You didn't need the Norwegians, for example, aren't really required.

1235
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,600
You could have just had them firing from the helicopter crashing and that would have been

1236
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:06,600
it.

1237
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:07,600
You wouldn't have needed them.

1238
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,600
That would have been two less actors.

1239
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:09,880
I'm glad they didn't.

1240
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,720
It felt much needed that they crash.

1241
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:13,720
They blow up.

1242
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,320
I mean, one of my notes is what the fuck with that grenade?

1243
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,320
Oh, yeah.

1244
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,320
So Diabeus, that same fucking note.

1245
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,880
Oh, it's behind me.

1246
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,320
But is that the thing?

1247
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,320
Is he a thing?

1248
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,320
Yeah.

1249
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,560
Is that why he threw the grenade behind him to kill the other person because he didn't

1250
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,960
want the other person to say, this is what's going on.

1251
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,960
Yeah.

1252
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,760
Was he really that bad a fucking shot with that gun?

1253
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,760
Exactly.

1254
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,760
Yeah.

1255
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:36,760
Wow.

1256
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,760
I never good shout all the times I've watched it.

1257
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,080
I've never actually taken that perspective of it.

1258
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,160
Was he one of them?

1259
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:42,160
Was he one of them?

1260
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,640
That's why he was always missing and he knew, Oh, look, there's something over there.

1261
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,260
I can then transform into those things.

1262
00:58:49,260 --> 00:58:52,600
So if we get near and Oh yeah, fucked up with the grenade.

1263
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:53,600
He's dead.

1264
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,000
No one's going to know what's going on.

1265
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,480
I know I won't be.

1266
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaking of, so they get to a point where they realise that obviously hates fires.

1267
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,400
They do tests and they take people's bloods and they get some copper wire, heat it up,

1268
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,720
put the hot copper wire in blood.

1269
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,680
If the blood reacts, then that's the thing.

1270
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,120
There's a great jump scare with that.

1271
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,600
They tie three guys up to it.

1272
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,600
Yeah.

1273
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:16,600
To their chairs.

1274
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,920
I love it when the other one just basically becomes the thing.

1275
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:25,640
This real slapstick comedy all of a sudden.

1276
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,920
That's my favourite scene in the entire film is that that part where they're all strapped

1277
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,360
to the chair and then that guy changes right there.

1278
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,320
And what a great scene that is of him changing.

1279
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:45,200
But they get to a point where they know pretty much that it can survive if it's been in pieces.

1280
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,800
They kind of imply that.

1281
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,320
So why does Kurt Russell then set one on fire, kick him out the door and then chuck a grenade

1282
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:53,320
on him?

1283
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,320
Yeah.

1284
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,760
What did you do that for?

1285
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:56,760
Blow his cells all over the place.

1286
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,760
Yeah.

1287
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:58,760
Let him burn.

1288
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,200
But they don't let anything burn.

1289
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,760
They keep putting it out.

1290
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,760
Exactly.

1291
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:03,760
It's like, burn him.

1292
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,320
Yeah, you can go in and put him out now.

1293
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,560
Gets well too quick.

1294
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,520
Mate, that's not even medium rare.

1295
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:09,520
That's rare.

1296
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:10,520
Yeah.

1297
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:15,800
I get they don't want the house to burn down, but come on guys.

1298
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:20,400
One room, close the door, let that room fucking burn, then put it out.

1299
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,040
You've got plenty of things that can put the fire out.

1300
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,760
Yeah, a hundred percent.

1301
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:25,760
A hundred percent.

1302
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:32,280
It's just not, you could say a bit lazy writing to kind of move the story forward and saw

1303
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,560
it move forward because obviously if they just let it burn, that would be it done.

1304
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,800
But I can understand why they didn't because they need the story to move forward.

1305
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,440
But there's so many things you could have done.

1306
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:47,680
For example, oh, you burnt it, but actually a chunk of it, like the head, peeled off and

1307
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,360
crawled away.

1308
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,720
You could have just kept doing that.

1309
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:57,000
That scene is crazy.

1310
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:04,000
One of the other doctor or the doctor, I suppose, is they're trying to resuscitate the guy on

1311
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,760
the table, aren't they?

1312
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,200
With defibs.

1313
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,560
And then as he's about to push down for the second or third time with the defib, the dude's

1314
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,360
chest fucking opens and it takes an eye inside.

1315
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:23,280
It's like, ah, and then just all hell breaks loose.

1316
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,800
There's fire, there's tentacles, there's creature coming up.

1317
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,080
He grabbed somebody at that point as well.

1318
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,840
Doesn't the creature then grab one of the other ones and start fucking with him?

1319
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,840
I can't get the tentacles come out, don't they?

1320
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,800
They grab one of them.

1321
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:43,000
And eventually they sit on a wind screen, whatever his name is.

1322
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,000
Yeah.

1323
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,000
That's when they get him.

1324
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,600
And then he gets thrown against the wall.

1325
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he gets taken at that point.

1326
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,560
He gets cooked at that point as well because he started to change.

1327
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,560
Yeah.

1328
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,200
And then they do a shot where they think they've killed it, but it's heads hanging off the

1329
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:00,040
end of the table and it slowly stretches down and then plops on the floor.

1330
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,760
All the while the face is moving.

1331
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,520
Yeah, the face is moving around, the face is upside down, it lands, plop on the ground

1332
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,200
and then fucking spider's legs come out the side of it.

1333
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,160
Tent, arms, eyes, sorry, on sticks, what they call like antennae.

1334
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,160
Yeah, little antennae come out.

1335
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,160
The spider legs come out.

1336
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,480
Come out of what would have been the chin, I guess, of the face.

1337
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,400
And then it starts crawling around the fucking ground, this upside down head, mouth still

1338
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,400
moving.

1339
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:24,400
Yeah.

1340
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,400
Oh, just...

1341
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,320
Now, did you know this isn't the original film?

1342
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,360
No, I didn't.

1343
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:35,000
So the original movie is The Thing from Another World, 1951.

1344
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,120
And it takes place in the North Pole, not Antarctica.

1345
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,720
And who wrote it?

1346
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,440
Is it based on a book?

1347
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,960
I've got no idea.

1348
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,600
Who's the War of the World author?

1349
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,240
Oh, HG Wells.

1350
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,640
Yeah, it sounds like one of his.

1351
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:55,040
So, scientists and American Air Force officials fend off a bloodthirsty alien organism while

1352
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,800
at a remote Arctic outpost.

1353
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,680
Now, I'm just literally jumping onto this really, really quickly because I'm just intrigued

1354
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,440
to see about it.

1355
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,640
And I can't see who wrote it.

1356
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:08,640
That's a shame.

1357
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,020
That's annoying.

1358
01:03:10,020 --> 01:03:12,200
Can they make it so...

1359
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,200
Oh, there we go.

1360
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,080
Right, so it's Choles Ledera.

1361
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,080
He's written quite...

1362
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,080
Yeah, okay.

1363
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,640
There's a lot of names on there that I recognise from old sci-fi.

1364
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,680
But what's interesting is hopefully this won't catch the sound.

1365
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:30,320
If you watch the trailer, hopefully it does it because I'm pretty sure it was this that

1366
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,320
I saw.

1367
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:32,320
Oh, it's a bloody advert.

1368
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,920
Do you want to use my phone if we can bring it through and people can hear the advert?

1369
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,480
We could do the trailer, but the thing I wanted you to see is hopefully...

1370
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,240
Oh, fuck, it's literally the same writing and everything.

1371
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,920
It's the same writing and air-free shit for the black and white.

1372
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,200
Holy shit, we've got to watch that.

1373
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,920
We've got to sit and watch the 1951 then because actually, because they would have been limited

1374
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,340
by the effects and what's available, sometimes actually can be much...

1375
01:03:58,340 --> 01:04:00,600
Those films can be a lot creepier.

1376
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,360
And I want to show you some really classic sci-fi at some point.

1377
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,660
I know we've already got the next episode planned, but in the future I want to show

1378
01:04:06,660 --> 01:04:10,480
you something called Quite a Mass in the Pit, the black and white film.

1379
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,500
And it's brilliant.

1380
01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:17,460
It's a British film and it's got very little practical effects, but what it does do and

1381
01:04:17,460 --> 01:04:21,720
how it does it and the suspense it has is brilliant.

1382
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:22,720
Absolutely brilliant.

1383
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,720
It's interesting.

1384
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:29,840
I wonder if this is a reimagining of that and then the more modern one is a reimagining

1385
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:30,840
of this.

1386
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,440
I mean, we haven't talked about the modern one, but the modern one, full of CGI.

1387
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,640
It doesn't deserve your fucking breath.

1388
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:41,240
And I've seen the model that they had designed for the thing and it was amazing.

1389
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:49,280
What I've seen of a few shots of that version with none of the CGI, because from my understanding,

1390
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,320
we spoke about this before, they filmed the entire thing not planning on doing CGI.

1391
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,100
So they had practical effects for everything.

1392
01:04:56,100 --> 01:05:00,720
And then at some point they went, no, let's make it CGI and painted over everything.

1393
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:01,720
And it's awful.

1394
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,200
It's fucking dreadful.

1395
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,720
I mean, it's not something you need to remake anyway.

1396
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:10,020
And let's face it, we didn't know that it was remade from the 1951 one anyway.

1397
01:05:10,020 --> 01:05:12,640
For all we know, the 1951 film could be absolutely atrocious.

1398
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,160
I don't think it will be.

1399
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,000
I think it would be of its time, but I think it will be very enjoyable.

1400
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,800
This took it to the next level.

1401
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,760
Why did it need to be remade?

1402
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,520
There was no need for it.

1403
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,440
Clearly somebody thought they could do it better.

1404
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:32,040
If there's an ego here that's come in and just thought we can do this better.

1405
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,840
If anything, they were right to make the game a sequel.

1406
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,800
And that's what someone should have considered.

1407
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,440
The game had a really good idea.

1408
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,320
How could we take this forward?

1409
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:48,840
I mean, maybe it ends up at a military base in Antarctica because they come and pick up

1410
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,280
all the remains, take it back to the military base.

1411
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:57,080
It's still contained, but you could have a whole different story going on there with

1412
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,360
different things happening.

1413
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:04,760
But no, they go and remake it and it's just that typical, we've remade something because

1414
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:11,960
we can and we've ruined it.

1415
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:12,960
I love this film.

1416
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:13,960
Yeah.

1417
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,640
I mean, there are a lot of scenes you could talk about.

1418
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,160
I love the design of it.

1419
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:22,200
You actually feel like what they've built as their outpost is the real outpost.

1420
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,920
I mean, their rec room's got a pinball, it's got an arcade machine, it's got a snooker

1421
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:26,920
table.

1422
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,680
They've got their kind of couch there.

1423
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:33,320
You've got the, is it Nolz or Noless or whatever his name is.

1424
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,840
He's the kitchen, he's the cook, he's got his music that he's playing.

1425
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:42,160
You've got windows and all the radio transmitter stuff.

1426
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,200
Everything feels like it's in the right place.

1427
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,200
It's the right design.

1428
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,100
It's what you would expect in somewhere like that.

1429
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:51,320
Even the flamethrowers, you would expect them because you think we're in the middle of one

1430
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,240
of the coldest places on earth.

1431
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,920
We're going to need to be able to quickly thaw out things.

1432
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,480
Flamethrowers, makes sense.

1433
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:04,520
But as well, how do you think people would be when they're in the middle of fucking nowhere,

1434
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,720
stuck with a load of blokes who they may or may not like for a long period of time.

1435
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,880
They'd all be a bit grumpy with each other.

1436
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,560
They were all grumpy with each other.

1437
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,280
They were only just starting their leg basically as well, if you think about it.

1438
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:20,320
They're all like, well, we've still got a few months before the rescue team or the swap

1439
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,960
out team are due.

1440
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:28,320
You're led to believe that this is actually still fairly early on in their kind of rotor.

1441
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:32,600
Yeah, I certainly remember saying to Brandon, everyone's so grumpy.

1442
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,040
I definitely got the impression that they didn't like each other.

1443
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:38,040
They were all there.

1444
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,480
They were all employees.

1445
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,160
They had their reasons to be there, but no one had their reasons to work together.

1446
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,640
Kurt Russell's character, McCready, he had his own.

1447
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,480
He's got his shack up in the top of the legs.

1448
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,280
Maybe he's up there higher ground.

1449
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,680
He gets a better view of the thing so he can be like, this is going to be all right whether

1450
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:55,680
for flying.

1451
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,080
We can go out in the helicopter today.

1452
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,480
Blah, blah, blah.

1453
01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:59,480
That's the plan.

1454
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:04,760
I think the only thing they don't really explain, and I don't know if five minutes of exposition

1455
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:10,800
would have helped or actually just ignoring it like they did.

1456
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,440
What's the research they're doing there?

1457
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,800
Who are actually the research people?

1458
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:20,320
Because everyone seemed to have their jobs, but no one seemed to be a research, excluding

1459
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:21,320
the doctor.

1460
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,320
Well, you had the two guys.

1461
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,480
You had the doctor and the kind of science guy.

1462
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:25,480
Okay, yeah.

1463
01:08:25,480 --> 01:08:31,640
You've got two of them, but for a research station, you wouldn't just have had two people.

1464
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,360
It could have done with a little bit of exposition.

1465
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,920
What are they doing?

1466
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:39,920
We're just literally, there's two of us and we're measuring the temperature and the wind

1467
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:44,200
and the ice cores here and it only requires two of us because it's a really shitty, boring

1468
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,200
job.

1469
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,720
Something like that would have, for me, just added a little bit more of believability.

1470
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:54,020
Not that it needed the believability, but it may have added a little bit more to it.

1471
01:08:54,020 --> 01:08:59,200
If I remember correctly, the game does tell you some stuff about what they were doing.

1472
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:03,040
You pick up tapes and kind of logs and stuff.

1473
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,540
I've not got far enough into it to really, and I don't remember.

1474
01:09:07,540 --> 01:09:10,400
As I would argue as well, why are the Norwegians so close?

1475
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:16,400
Now, I know actually the fact is, in real life in the Antarctic area where they do the

1476
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,720
science studies, there are base camps based by country and they are all fairly near each

1477
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,720
other.

1478
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,640
But again, what were they there doing?

1479
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,800
What was their research?

1480
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,640
You would have thought being so close to each other, there would have been not necessarily

1481
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,840
a friendship between sites, but at least, oh, well, we know the Norwegians are there.

1482
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:34,840
They're doing this.

1483
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:35,840
We know the Americans are over there.

1484
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:36,840
They're doing this.

1485
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,480
We know that the British are over there doing this.

1486
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:44,720
Well, I think the Norwegians were doing deep shoe drilling, not deep ice drilling.

1487
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,520
You do that for finding out age and stuff.

1488
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,280
Well, yeah, you look at what the world was like at the oldest of the ice cores.

1489
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,120
They went deep enough to find this spaceship.

1490
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:58,400
I think that's what happened on their side because they had to explain how they found

1491
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,400
the ship.

1492
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,880
I think that's pretty much, you can kind of get that's what they were doing.

1493
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:02,880
Yeah, fair enough.

1494
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,480
You don't have a clue what the Americans are doing.

1495
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:10,800
But what I really liked, the end, everyone dies.

1496
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,160
Yeah, there's no happy ending to it.

1497
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,320
It's not a happy ending.

1498
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:15,600
That's such a rare thing.

1499
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,840
And I think we've said about it before either on the Variety Show or on this show.

1500
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,520
It's very rare to get a film that chooses to end in a negative connotation.

1501
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,040
So they chose to end it with both main characters that have survived dying.

1502
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,040
That's it.

1503
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,120
And you don't know if they've succeeded.

1504
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,120
You don't know if one of them is actually the age.

1505
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,840
For all we know, Childs was like, you know what, I will sit here and die with you because

1506
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,800
he's the thing.

1507
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,760
He wants to freeze until the next group turn up.

1508
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:49,440
So for all we know, McCready has been all along and his aim was to kill everyone.

1509
01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:50,440
You just don't know.

1510
01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:52,640
So ending it like that is brilliant.

1511
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,200
And it is a rare thing.

1512
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:59,000
I mean, I don't like Deep Impact much as a film, but at least they went balls deep and

1513
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,960
went, well, we're going to kill half of the fucking population of Earth with an asteroid

1514
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:02,960
hitting Earth.

1515
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:09,920
I'm going to have to do the beginning of the game again, because I'm pretty sure you find

1516
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,480
McCready's body.

1517
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:13,720
And there's only one body.

1518
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,280
Oh, so they in the little building.

1519
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:17,280
It is child.

1520
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:22,000
I'm just thinking, yeah, my memory night might not be correct, but I'll wait for I play that

1521
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:27,520
first kind of half an hour of it again and see if that is McCready's body.

1522
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:28,520
And if there's two.

1523
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,120
As is that why Childs does the cheeky grin.

1524
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,120
Yeah.

1525
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:36,640
And like, I'm pretty sure if I really want to start thinking about, I wouldn't be surprised

1526
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,520
if he is it because he does go away and he's like, oh, I had to go off.

1527
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,360
I thought I saw X, Y, Z. So I had, yeah, you just don't know, do you?

1528
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:49,760
And he's the, he is the odd one out for all of it.

1529
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,400
And as McCready said, you've got this uneven temper.

1530
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,040
You're a, you're a wild one and we don't know about you.

1531
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:01,800
I mean, obviously they do the blood test up until that point, but then they leave him.

1532
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,680
You don't know what has happened since.

1533
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:04,680
Yeah.

1534
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,960
Well, as I said, at some point, every character has a reason why they'd gone off on their

1535
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:09,960
own.

1536
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:10,960
Yes.

1537
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,960
Every single one.

1538
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:12,960
And that's his moment at the end.

1539
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:13,960
That's the moment we go.

1540
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:18,200
Now, well, I actually know he's has two because when he comes in, he gets accused.

1541
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,200
Yes.

1542
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:20,200
Yes.

1543
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,200
Of it.

1544
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,200
Cause he leaves McCready out there.

1545
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,200
Doesn't he?

1546
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,200
That's not Childs.

1547
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,200
That's Nolz.

1548
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,200
Oh, okay.

1549
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:27,200
Sorry.

1550
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:33,000
As he comes back and he said, Oh, because he's the one that finds the rag in the boiler.

1551
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,000
Yes.

1552
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,000
That's it.

1553
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,000
Yeah.

1554
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,080
So yeah, he abandons him and leaves him out in the snowstorm and runs back leaving McCready

1555
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,080
on his own.

1556
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,080
Yeah.

1557
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,080
Nolz.

1558
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,080
Yes.

1559
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,080
If that's how it's pronounced.

1560
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:49,880
Cause they, they do say that they know that the thing won't be dead from the cold.

1561
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,360
It would just go into dormant.

1562
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:57,300
It's looking to go into a frozen state until the next people come along and take it where

1563
01:12:57,300 --> 01:12:58,600
it wants to go.

1564
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,600
Yeah.

1565
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,240
So I wonder now, I wonder.

1566
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,240
Yeah.

1567
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:03,240
And you're right.

1568
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:04,240
He gives him a kind of a bit of a look.

1569
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,920
It's kind of a, Oh, just sit here too then.

1570
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:12,200
And do you think sharing the alcohol with him would pass the disease over?

1571
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,760
Or do you think he's actually going to grab him and absorb him?

1572
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,760
I don't know.

1573
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:16,760
Possibly.

1574
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:17,760
I don't.

1575
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:22,640
I think the idea is, is that yet the thing grabs you, absorbs you and becomes you.

1576
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,260
I think that's kind of the idea they try and put across that.

1577
01:13:25,260 --> 01:13:27,100
That is how it happens.

1578
01:13:27,100 --> 01:13:30,400
Not just on the cell basis, which you see in the little computer animation of dog cell

1579
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,400
versus thing.

1580
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,920
And it just envelops it.

1581
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:40,440
Which is why you see kind of window being windows being enveloped, don't you?

1582
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:45,040
And then the dog gets enveloped and pulled in.

1583
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:50,720
What I did like as well was when the final thing appears and you've got all of the things

1584
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:55,600
that it's cloned recently, the dog comes out, the face comes out.

1585
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,840
Now there's an interesting thing of it, cause I'm listening to all the bits called Dungeon

1586
01:13:58,840 --> 01:13:59,840
Crawler Carl.

1587
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,840
Dungeon Crawler Carl.

1588
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,640
Again, the name out probably.

1589
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:09,400
Long story short, there's a character in it which can change shape.

1590
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:15,960
And they can kind of take things into their mass and use it.

1591
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,120
And then so that they take in a metal shield, they can absorb that into the mass and then

1592
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,000
use that to make their arm metal.

1593
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,280
Oh, okay.

1594
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,480
The problem is they're taking on mass.

1595
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:27,620
They get bigger.

1596
01:14:27,620 --> 01:14:30,680
So they can't make themselves small again.

1597
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,880
So a five foot person eventually becomes a six foot person because they've got so much

1598
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,880
mass.

1599
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,640
It was a PS2 game, wasn't it?

1600
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:44,120
It began with a K and I can't think of it, where you play the ball and you're rolling

1601
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,520
around the world and you're trying to build up mass to complete the level.

1602
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,280
So everywhere you're rolling around, you're getting bigger and bigger and slowly the world

1603
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,880
gets smaller as your ball gets bigger and you're absorbed.

1604
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:54,880
Katamari.

1605
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:55,880
That was it.

1606
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:01,320
So that's the thing about the thing that they ignore.

1607
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,360
It's absorbing all those dogs and resolving everything.

1608
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:11,200
See that big one that's there, that's too big to be a person now.

1609
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,080
It's taken on too much.

1610
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:18,400
But is that one, that was the one that they, he fights underground.

1611
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,360
So do you think is that where the main ones living underground?

1612
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,080
Because you see crawl under the ground.

1613
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,920
But do you think there is a main one?

1614
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,200
Like in Tremors.

1615
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:27,800
I think there's more than one.

1616
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,920
Well, I think there's definitely more than one because as you say, it's on a cellular

1617
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:35,680
base if you blow up the cell and the cell comes into contact with you, it can then clone

1618
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,880
your cell and carry on cloning, cloning and envelope you.

1619
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:46,120
But don't forget the thing that we see that is the dog becomes this giant thing in the

1620
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,680
corner hanging from the ceiling, doesn't it?

1621
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,720
It grows two giant bloody arms that tries to pull itself up.

1622
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:56,280
And that's like three times the size of the dog, but it's the same thing at that point.

1623
01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:01,880
So obviously this thing has the ability to grow and shrink based on what it's choosing.

1624
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:07,240
So I don't think we are meant to be thinking about size and space in that way.

1625
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:12,520
I think it's just a given that it'll be the size it wants to be the size of.

1626
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,520
Yeah.

1627
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:14,520
I mean, I'm happy with that.

1628
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:19,520
I just, if you want to start really picking, but yeah, I don't actually care.

1629
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:24,840
But the thing is the, and if you want to just to pick the thing you pick at is you don't

1630
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,800
burn it for long enough and you don't blow it to pieces.

1631
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:28,800
Yeah.

1632
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,920
Those are the two things to pick away from this film.

1633
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:36,520
Nothing else because everything else actually you could just, you can accept, but those

1634
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,200
two things are that they are the two things.

1635
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,200
Yeah.

1636
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,880
The overall, oh, fucking brilliant.

1637
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:44,880
Magnificent film.

1638
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:45,880
Absolutely magnificent.

1639
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,800
I'm really glad you liked it.

1640
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,280
It just genuinely blew my socks off.

1641
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:54,120
It was just every minute watching it was enjoyable.

1642
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,800
There wasn't a part of it that I thought, Oh, how long's left?

1643
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,520
I want to see how long's left.

1644
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,040
Oh, I'll start doing this while I'm watching it.

1645
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,480
I wanted to watch it through and through.

1646
01:17:05,480 --> 01:17:06,480
No gaps.

1647
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:07,480
You can't miss a bit too.

1648
01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:11,080
Cause I think if you do look away for a few minutes at your phone or something, you will

1649
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:12,080
miss something.

1650
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,080
Exactly.

1651
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:18,280
If you look away, you are going to miss the bit of why was he on his own or when was he

1652
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:19,280
on his own?

1653
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,040
Well, actually it happened three minutes ago and you missed the time he was on his own.

1654
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,440
That's why they're all doubtful of him.

1655
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:29,000
So yeah, it's actually a film you've surprisingly got to pay attention to quite a lot.

1656
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:33,960
And you don't necessarily always get that with a horror film or a thriller.

1657
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:38,800
You can normally half ass it a little bit, but here you actually need quite a lot of

1658
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,000
concentration for that film because you're right.

1659
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,640
It's very easy to miss something.

1660
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:54,360
And what you miss could be a giant, giant story arc that actually makes the film collapse

1661
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:55,360
without.

1662
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:56,360
Yeah.

1663
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,280
And I didn't think it was very long, but it's an hour and 49 minutes.

1664
01:17:58,280 --> 01:17:59,280
It didn't feel that long.

1665
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:00,280
It did not feel an hour and 49.

1666
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,880
But don't forget we are in the world now that I think it's generally accepted films need

1667
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,080
to be two hours or longer now.

1668
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,080
So one hour is 49.

1669
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,520
I think it's actually on the shorter side.

1670
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,360
I mean, I, I still like the era of one and a half hour films.

1671
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,040
Yeah.

1672
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,640
But it is, it is what it is.

1673
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:21,400
I like there's a three line blurb of it in I to B and it actually personifies the film

1674
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:22,400
perfectly.

1675
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,860
A research team in Antarctica is hunted by a shape shifting alien that assumes the appearance

1676
01:18:26,860 --> 01:18:28,560
of his victims.

1677
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,280
That is exactly what this film is.

1678
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:32,280
Yeah.

1679
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,680
Completely personifies this film in a very short way.

1680
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:35,680
Yeah.

1681
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:39,280
Basically what we get in that, and as I said, we wouldn't be able to talk about it for 35

1682
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,160
to 45 minutes and here we are at 37 minutes.

1683
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,160
Yeah.

1684
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:45,160
It, you should watch this film.

1685
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,480
If you haven't, it's great.

1686
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:48,480
Just watch it.

1687
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:52,080
I think what I want to watch next is I might pick up on DVD because it's one of those DVDs

1688
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:58,000
now it's been around for so long and it's just easy to get ahold of it's cheap.

1689
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,960
It's like a 499 DVD on Amazon.

1690
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:06,080
I would love to watch the audio commentary with John Carpenter on it because he will

1691
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,600
explain a lot of the ideas he had.

1692
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:14,000
And I'm really keen to see if were we right in what we were thinking or if we weren't,

1693
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,840
what was his thought process behind it?

1694
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,320
Because I'm sure that's going to be, it's one of the audio commentaries that I'd be

1695
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,320
interested in listening to.

1696
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,080
And that's not something I would normally say.

1697
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,080
I normally don't care.

1698
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,160
I don't think I've ever listened to an audio commentary of anything ever.

1699
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,200
There's only been one or two.

1700
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,440
Yeah.

1701
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:34,760
This way, actually this one I would do.

1702
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:42,240
I know you gentlemen have been through a lot and when you find the time, I'd rather not

1703
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:47,920
spend the rest of this winter tied to this fucking couch.

1704
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,400
Right.

1705
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:54,520
Next week we are watching Red Dwarf.

1706
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,160
It's cold outside.

1707
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,160
No, you know it.

1708
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,720
I just said next week.

1709
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:00,720
I'll have fucked up again.

1710
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:01,720
Yep.

1711
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:02,720
Next episode.

1712
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,880
What we're doing is we're both choosing an episode each.

1713
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:10,800
So you're going to, if you join in and actually watch the stuff that we do, you're going to

1714
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,520
be watching two episodes of Red Dwarf because they're quite short.

1715
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,520
They are short.

1716
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:15,520
They're British comedy.

1717
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,120
So you can expect them to be about 25 to 30 minutes.

1718
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,640
It's not like the US comedies which fall in at about 22 minutes because you've always

1719
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,080
got eight minutes worth of adverts.

1720
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,480
So we're more to like the 25, 27 minute I think.

1721
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:31,200
So yeah, two of these is a nice easy watch.

1722
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,320
I said to you, it doesn't have to be a favourite Red Dwarf episode, but certainly one that

1723
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,080
you've got good fond memories of watching and knowing that you enjoyed.

1724
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:40,600
Oh, a hundred percent.

1725
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:41,600
Yeah.

1726
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:42,600
So what did you pick?

1727
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:43,600
Oh, well I sent you a list, didn't I?

1728
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:44,600
I sent you a list.

1729
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:45,800
You did, but you just need to pick one of them.

1730
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:50,000
So I'm just going to quickly say my favourite ones that I could think of on the spot were

1731
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:54,640
obviously Confidence Paranoia from series one, Best of the Life in series two, Backwards

1732
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,520
in series three, Polymorph in series three and Meltdown in series four.

1733
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,240
Now all of them are brilliant.

1734
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,920
There are more, more than that, obviously.

1735
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:08,000
I'm going to go with Polymorph just because for me it is a continually funny episode and

1736
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:14,400
I can rewatch that over and over again and things like give Keisha chance and just everything

1737
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,760
about that episode makes me laugh.

1738
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,240
So I'm going to go with Polymorph season three, episode three.

1739
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,360
Yeah, Polymorph Shapeshifter that feeds on negative emotions.

1740
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:26,360
Negative emotions.

1741
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:27,360
Yeah, it steals emotions.

1742
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:39,200
It takes Crichton's guilt, Rimmer's anger, Lister's scared and...

1743
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,400
Cat would be his vanity, surely.

1744
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:42,400
His vanity, yeah.

1745
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:43,400
Yeah.

1746
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:44,400
So I'll mention some episodes.

1747
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:49,120
We've got season five episode four, Quarantine, a virus makes them all go mad.

1748
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,120
Yeah, Mr. Flipple.

1749
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,120
Yeah.

1750
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,560
Season six episode four, Rimmer World.

1751
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:55,560
Rimmer World's a good one.

1752
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:56,560
That's a good one.

1753
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:01,920
And that's funny enough, that's towards the end of the seasons before they kind of renewed

1754
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,280
Red Dwarf in this modern era, isn't it?

1755
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:05,280
Yeah, kind of.

1756
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,520
And then there's a great one, mainly just because of one bit, season seven episode five

1757
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:10,840
is called Blue.

1758
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:15,720
Now that's the one with the Rimmer song in it where there's a...

1759
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,560
Crichton makes a ride.

1760
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:18,560
So yeah, that's season seven.

1761
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:19,560
Because Rimmer's not in it.

1762
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,560
Season seven's the first of their reboot of Red Dwarf, wasn't it?

1763
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:26,760
So we got, they were lost and then it kind of ended.

1764
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,800
And I think the Suicide Squid was one of the last kind of episodes of that series.

1765
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:31,800
And then it disappeared off.

1766
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:37,360
And then if I remember right, isn't it the nanites or the nanobots rebuild Red Dwarf

1767
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,360
and everyone is alive again.

1768
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,680
Yeah.

1769
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:43,680
And I think that's...

1770
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,120
That's when Kuchanski's definitely back.

1771
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,360
Yeah, Kuchanski's back.

1772
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:48,480
And yeah, then we get that.

1773
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:49,480
And then we...

1774
01:22:49,480 --> 01:22:51,960
Sorry, it's the end of that season that they rebuild Red Dwarf, isn't it?

1775
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:52,960
So yes.

1776
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,400
So Rimmer, I think Rimmer's dead at this point.

1777
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:00,760
And this isn't what the episode I'm picking, I'm just telling you the episode.

1778
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:01,760
And what's it?

1779
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,240
Fuck, I can't, suddenly I'm forgetting it.

1780
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:10,080
Lister, he really, he's like having like sexual dreams about Rimmer.

1781
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:17,080
So Crichton like gets hold of all his diaries, Rimmer's diaries and makes this ride based

1782
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,080
on Rimmer's...

1783
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,600
Oh, it's not he's dead.

1784
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,160
He takes the place of Ace Rimmer.

1785
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:27,200
Ace dies and Rimmer takes over the position of Ace Rimmer.

1786
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:28,200
Yeah, absolutely.

1787
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:29,200
You're right.

1788
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,200
You're right.

1789
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:31,200
And yeah, and this has got the...

1790
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,200
It's Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer.

1791
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,200
Remember that?

1792
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,200
Well, it used to say...

1793
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:39,160
Anyway, I do know the words of Arnold, I'm going to sing it now.

1794
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:44,560
But the one I'm choosing is season five, episode six, and it's back to reality.

1795
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:45,560
Great episode.

1796
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,200
So the end of the season five, I think.

1797
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:49,680
Which is the suicide squid.

1798
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,360
Oh, is that the suicide squid?

1799
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:52,360
That's the one that...

1800
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:53,360
Yes.

1801
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,320
Because it ends with them being chased by the suicide squid and it turns out it's still

1802
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:57,320
the game.

1803
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:58,320
Yeah.

1804
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:03,480
So it's when they get pulled out of this VR thing and all of the seasons beforehand have

1805
01:24:03,480 --> 01:24:06,400
supposedly been inside VR.

1806
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:07,400
Dwayne Divlett?

1807
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,040
I don't want to be Dwayne Divlett!

1808
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,040
Dwayne Divlett!

1809
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:15,800
So everyone is like their worst versions of what they think the worst version is.

1810
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,720
What a really fun episode.

1811
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,080
It's a good fun episode.

1812
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:26,960
That's the same series that's got Gunmen of the Apocalypse, which is Crichton.

1813
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:33,400
They come against the bad androids, I can't remember what they call them now, and they

1814
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:37,560
blow up their ship and they plant a virus on Crichton.

1815
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,720
Oh, they plant a virus on the ship, sorry.

1816
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:45,800
So Crichton tunes in and then they all have to join in the reality as video game basically

1817
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,640
and try to beat the virus.

1818
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,040
Same season, so that's a good one as well.

1819
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,400
Yeah, so that's it.

1820
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,440
So we're going to be watching season three, episode three, Polymorph, season five, episode

1821
01:24:56,440 --> 01:24:59,560
six, Back to Reality.

1822
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,120
So that's next episode.

1823
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:07,080
You'll also be hopefully giving me the answers to what is this week's guest, the intro, which

1824
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,800
is again, it's got six different things for you to find.

1825
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,880
Are you sure it's six, not five, not seven?

1826
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:13,880
I checked my notes.

1827
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:18,040
That's what I was saying, I checked and counted, there's six, if there's not six, there will

1828
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,240
be six because I haven't made it yet.

1829
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,040
I just know what's meant to be in it.

1830
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,040
Yeah, six.

1831
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,040
Awesome.

1832
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,880
You're going to have to sleep some time, mid-week.

1833
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,840
I'm a real late sleeper child.

1834
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:31,840
Would you like to know more?

1835
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:32,840
No.

1836
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:37,440
All right, thanks for tuning in everyone.

1837
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:38,440
Thank you very much everyone.

1838
01:25:38,440 --> 01:25:44,520
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1839
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:45,760
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1840
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1841
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,800
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1842
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,600
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1843
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,240
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1844
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:07,560
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1845
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:13,000
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1846
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:17,720
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1847
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,720
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1848
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:24,520
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1849
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:30,120
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1850
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,120
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1851
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,120
Miracles happen, yeah.

1852
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:33,880
I do plan on writing a little bit on there.

1853
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,800
I might write about some of the games that I've completed recently.

1854
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:42,520
We're doing our little game of who can complete what games and we're going to write up the

1855
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,000
games we've both completed so far.

1856
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,120
But you know, it takes time, doesn't it, writing stuff?

1857
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:49,640
It does.

1858
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:55,600
And yeah, listen to the rest of Studio Channel 84 that is lightly used with Karen and Adam

1859
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,440
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1860
01:26:57,440 --> 01:26:59,360
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1861
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,800
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1862
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,320
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1863
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:05,320
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1864
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:06,320
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1865
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:07,320
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1866
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:08,320
I think that's it.

1867
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:09,320
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1868
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:10,320
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1869
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,080
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1870
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,080
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1871
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:17,080
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1872
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1874
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1875
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1876
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1877
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