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Are we going to be high-end

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You triggered me.

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Technically the last

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untitled Trek show.

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How do you feel about that?

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Boo. Sorry, you go outside, mate.

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You're not welcome here.

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Yeah, you're cheering.

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Come, come, come.

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Be nice, be nice. Welcome.

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Is that the two people that have listened to the show?

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Is that the two?

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Hang on, mate. You can come back in.

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I don't care if you're booing.

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We need the numbers.

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Welcome to the Untitled Trek show.

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Your one-stop shop for Star Trek.

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For this episode only.

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For this episode only.

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Now I'm figuring out an intro.

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Now we're not going to do any more.

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This is your show. You have got to figure out an intro

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and an outro for whatever we change the name.

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No, we don't do any of that.

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No, we don't do any of that.

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No, this is the show that doesn't have that shit.

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This is the show that doesn't have that shit.

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Enter authorization code.

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What have you been doing for last fortnight?

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What sci-fi have you watched?

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No Star Trek.

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Obviously Star Trek for today's episode.

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I went back and watched 2012.

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That's the one with Nicolas Cage, isn't it?

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And all the Mayans. No, 2012 is the Mayans.

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Oh my god, that is a trash film.

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called The Undead by R. Hayward.

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no longer pisses in the bed and the wife is

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things. Did it never progress?

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the world of spice and everything

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for longer and allowing it to be made to make

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Maui's body is disproportionate.

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disproportionate.

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Not really sci-fi. Day of the Jackal.

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We watched all of Day of the Jackal. Eddie Redmayne.

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Oh right. Well as many of them have come out.

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It's the new TV series one, isn't it?

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So we're up to date with that. That's brilliant.

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Don't really need to spoil that, but

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it's great. And when we, so

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Arcane. Have you ever watched Arcane

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on Netflix? No.

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it's a League of Legends characters.

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You might have heard about it. I've never even heard of it.

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So you've got to watch it.

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It is absolutely brilliant.

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Arcane. Okay.

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So the art style of the 3D graphics.

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Nothing like it.

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There is absolutely nothing like it.

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It looks absolutely wonderful.

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And it just follows these

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sisters really. So we're rewatching

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season one because we didn't remember it enough.

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So all of season two has just literally just come out

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maybe last week or the week before. But we're

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rewatching season one because we didn't remember it enough.

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Right. Okay. And yeah.

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That's all I've got to say.

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Watch Arcane everybody. You will not

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regret it. From the very beginning.

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And all the fight scenes. You know how

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I went on about the Yibur fight scenes.

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Same thing here.

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Beautiful to look. Impactful

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punches. Really

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good story.

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All the characters are engaging. Every

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single one. There isn't a single character

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and then you go, oh god this one's on screen.

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Every single one is likeable

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and dislikeable in their own ways.

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And what style is it? Is it anime?

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Is it

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western cartoon? Is it

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live action? It's kind of like, it's not live action.

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So it's 3D

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cartoon graphics but very

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heavily stylised.

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But you can see they've taken

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and they're all American voice actors or English

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voice actors or something. It's not like it's dubbed or anything.

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But you can see there's like

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anime influences

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in some of the bits of it. But really

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it's a westernised

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based on

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characters from League of Legends.

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Created by, I think, the team

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at Riot who make League of Legends themselves anyway.

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I think, don't

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quote me on that. But I think it's

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interesting, if you create the game and you've got

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a studio of artists then

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it makes sense to.

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Absolutely incredible. People should watch it.

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So that's what I've been watching.

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Nice.

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Dos Ritos.

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So for the last

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time for a while.

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We're talking Star Trek.

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Funvat, I listened to

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a podcast called The Retrospectors.

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And they do an episode every day.

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Every day.

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It's a 10 minute episode every day.

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And it's whatever happened in that day

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in history. It's really good actually.

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Sometimes, yeah, I might skip a couple of days

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here and there when it's really something I don't care about.

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Medieval stuff. But then

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there's some interesting stuff. And the one on Friday

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just gone.

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The first interracial kiss.

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Star Trek. But it's

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not. That's the fun thing.

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And I knew this fact already but listening to

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the story and realising how many actually

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happened before that.

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There were dozens.

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There were loads. And William

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Shatner was involved in two of them.

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But I think

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the thing you take away from it

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when you read about it is obviously

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Star Trek fans like

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Star Wars fans

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like any fan enjoy gatekeeping

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a little bit too much.

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And when they get

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their teeth into maybe a fact that has

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been bastardised a little bit

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too much

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they start spouting it as

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one of the reasons why Star

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Trek is so much better. And obviously that one is.

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And most people have heard it. Star Trek

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is the first interracial kiss

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on TV. And it wasn't. Not by

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far. Film wise

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it was Sidney Poitier and someone else.

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There was a film with

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a Japanese

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lady, a Japanese man

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getting with an American lady.

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Oh my goodness. But that was film.

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And then if you go by the TV and what they

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were saying there were no end

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of East Asian women

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kissing men in various

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different TV shows including William Shatner.

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So I think really maybe what

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they meant to say

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even then this could still be wrong is

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I think what they really wanted to say was

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this is the first time on American

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TV that we've seen a black woman

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kiss a white man. Was it a prime time

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American TV? I think something

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along those lines. But even then

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the bit I didn't know about this story was

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everyone had to leave the set.

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So they finished filming for the day and the final thing

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they were going to film this day was

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Shatner kissing

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crap

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Ahura. Nicole, I can't think of

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her name now. But it's

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Kirk kissing Ahura and all the

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big suit men at the back of the studio

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they filmed them kissing her

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and then they said right we want one more shot

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done from a further distance so

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it could be misconstrued

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what's going on. And apparently

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only the cameraman could have seen this

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but apparently when they went in for the kiss

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William Shatner started putting

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on a stupid face, he went cross eyed

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so when it came to the next

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day where they look at all the footage

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it would have been too late. They couldn't use

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that once. They had to go for the up close

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it's definitely a kiss sort of thing

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because the other one's got William Shatner

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going cross eyed going

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Woo. Get on him.

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He doesn't get much praise from us

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after the last episode.

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No he doesn't. And it's funny and they bring up the fact

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as well that actually you got

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Ben and Nimoy and William Shatner both Jewish

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and

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at that time America was

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was and can

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still be just like most country

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bigoted. So actually

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these things weren't common on TV

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so it was just an interesting topic

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and seeing we were talking about Star Trek

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I thought I'd steal their content.

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Yeah. Well I

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can't imagine doing an episode every single day.

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Oh god no. Who would do that?

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Well I think yeah who would do that?

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Obviously they film theirs in huge bulk.

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Yeah they must do.

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Like every fortnight or whatever.

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Yeah they must do it monthly I would have thought

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but anyway

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we are back.

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So did you watch

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the final episode of season 4?

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We have both realised neither

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of us has actually seen the last episode

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of season 4 for some reason.

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I sat down watching it on my sofa.

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I was so into that final

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episode. What an episode.

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So I haven't watched it yet. I still haven't watched it yet.

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Oh my mate you are

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oh there is

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a there is just some

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beautiful amazingly funny comedy

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in it. But

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it's such a powerful

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and good episode. It's got

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everything you could want in it.

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It's got emotion. It's got act.

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It's just full on.

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And you will be I was

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laughing. I was cheering.

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I genuinely

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knew I was in the house on my own which is why I did.

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But it was amazing.

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It's one of the best

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episodes I have ever seen

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of Lower Decks. Well I've got to say

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I think

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I need it because

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sorry to say to everybody I think

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that episode 1 of

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season 5 was probably the

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weakest episode.

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I still enjoyed

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it because I love Lower Decks.

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But I think it was

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their weakest one.

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Okay so I do

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agree with you to an extent on that

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one. I think it was a very lazy

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episode. And it was

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it was basically

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I think what they've done is they've

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so having not seen the final episode

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of series 4 it's hard to really go into

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this. But obviously you must have been

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wondering why is Tindy a pirate now?

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I think

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I'd seen enough like clips of things

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that I get that

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she blew something up.

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Or she did something to someone's ship

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because she says it in the episode.

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But the long and short of it is in

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season 4 one of the

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best jokes is

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they finally find out who's been

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destroying the ships. And it turns out

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he's been liberating them instead and it's Nick

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from that TNG episode.

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Will Wheaton's in it by the way

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that episode as

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as himself

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as his character.

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And there's a

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Wesley that's it. And there's a brilliant point

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you've got Rutherford at the screen and he's just

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like he looks just like Tom Paris.

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Comes

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back to him. He's like even the facials

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he's exactly the same. And it's just

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that's a brilliant joke for those of you that

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don't obviously know what it is you get.

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The actor that played Tom Paris in

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Voyager also appeared in TNG as

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Nick. Long and short of it. Very funny.

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But yeah

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to save

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Beckett

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they

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go to

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Tendi's sister

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to borrow a ship. And

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the long and short of it is

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to have

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the ship she has

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to go back to be by her sister's

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side and become a pirate again.

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And obviously yeah they blow up

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the ship and then that becomes a debt

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that she now has to pay back until she can go back.

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That's what's explained in this episode.

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Exactly. So yeah we come to this episode but it feels like

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this episode was basically

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that. Then they realized

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there's not really enough story to that.

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So what other stories could we

557
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000
do? Let's do Parallel Universe

558
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000
which is fine.

559
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000
However they'd

560
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000
already done a fucking

561
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000
brilliant brilliant job with

562
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000
Strange New Worlds.

563
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000
So

564
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000
already it was on the back foot for the whole

565
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,000
Parallel Time U.I. sort of

566
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000
weird stuff. Well I think the Strange New World wasn't

567
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000
Parallel Universe it was just time travel.

568
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000
Time travel and yeah.

569
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000
But

570
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000
then we've got this

571
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000
just

572
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000
pointlessness. It's just

573
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000
really they're not bad

574
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000
they're not evil. They're basically

575
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000
slightly different by

576
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000
4% does he say?

577
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000
Something like that.

578
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000
Different reality.

579
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000
Boimler's got the Riker beard going

580
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000
and he's got a little bit more confidence but

581
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000
that's it.

582
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000
I like the Shack.

583
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000
The Shack too are just full

584
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000
on bum chums at this point. It's brilliant.

585
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000
But there's nothing

586
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000
to it. Well they say they say their favourite

587
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000
things are strangling Kardashians and the other one

588
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000
was like that's mine too. Mine too.

589
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000
I built

590
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000
my body on strangling.

591
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000
Something like that.

592
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000
And then it was

593
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000
straight up no matter

594
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000
what you could see

595
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000
other mariner was

596
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000
going to basically do the switch route.

597
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000
It was on the cards pretty

598
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000
much from two minutes

599
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000
after meeting them. That is

600
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000
what's going to happen. And you're right

601
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000
the word is predictable

602
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000
and it just felt like two

603
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000
stories that

604
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000
had run out of steam

605
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000
and didn't feel like they were going to go anywhere.

606
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000
I can't I'm I'm sat here now

607
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000
with my notes in front of me

608
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000
trying to think of a moment

609
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000
to tell you.

610
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000
Like the other ones I can pick

611
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000
moments. Oh god this joke was so funny.

612
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000
Oh this bit was hilarious.

613
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000
Which I just did with the final episode of series

614
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000
four. In this

615
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000
episode. Sorry.

616
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000
Let's see if that picks picked up.

617
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000
I can't think

618
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000
of these funny bits.

619
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000
But there isn't a bit I can go to you and go oh yeah

620
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000
you meant that bit was my favourite bit.

621
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000
There wasn't one. I think the funniest bit

622
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000
in this episode is when all the

623
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000
pirates quietly admit to

624
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000
Tendi that I don't want

625
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000
to kill people. I want to get

626
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000
out of being a pirate as well.

627
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000
And that bit genuinely is quite

628
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000
a nice bit because it's like

629
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000
she's realising that actually not

630
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000
everyone on the Orion side of it are

631
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000
these horribly brutal people who just believe

632
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000
in pirating and stealing.

633
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000
They had like cute bits.

634
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000
I'd say they had cute bits. Rutherford calling the other one

635
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000
Otherford. Otherford. That's cute.

636
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000
Funny. Cute. And I like the bit

637
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000
was what did you just call him?

638
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000
I called him Otherford. That's

639
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000
so... What's he

640
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000
say? He's obviously... Does he say

641
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000
that's cute or no? He says um...

642
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000
Boimler's bearded

643
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000
version. Basically he just

644
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000
goes that's so and you think oh he's going

645
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000
to say it's disgraceful. But he just likes it.

646
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000
That's really cool. I just really

647
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000
like it. Just really really positive.

648
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000
Other things I liked. Blue

649
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000
Orions and green Orians.

650
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000
I thought I actually quite enjoyed that they just pronounce

651
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000
it differently. It's just the girls and the boys

652
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000
basically the same species.

653
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000
What else? Because I've made

654
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000
little lists all the way through.

655
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000
Oh. Yeah.

656
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000
And again I'm thinking about

657
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000
the final episode of season four. Not the

658
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000
episode we're talking about. Yeah. Season five.

659
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000
Because I just literally thought oh that was a really funny

660
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000
moment. Wrong episode.

661
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000
Boimler getting off his chair and doing the Reiche

662
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000
manoeuvre. Yeah. Again a little

663
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000
moment. A nice you know

664
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000
a little funny little bit but not

665
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000
really like a stand out.

666
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000
Or the Vulcan at the end going

667
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000
remarkable. She's

668
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000
swapped. Yeah. Ha ha ha. Yeah.

669
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000
She's joking. Fascinating.

670
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000
I just I'm going through it.

671
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000
All my notes here.

672
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000
It wasn't a bad episode. Let's keep it at that

673
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000
because that's an important thing to say.

674
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000
It isn't a bad episode.

675
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000
It's definitely not bad. I enjoyed. It's got the DNA

676
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000
of Lower Decks. It's enjoyable.

677
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000
It's definitely better than some

678
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000
of the stuff we've had previously from

679
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000
other parts of the Star Trek universe.

680
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000
But it's not the

681
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000
quality I expect of Lower Decks.

682
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000
And my genuine concern

683
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000
is were

684
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000
these written after they were told?

685
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000
Yeah. Your end of life.

686
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000
We've got to wrap things

687
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000
up. Basically because does that mean

688
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000
the writers are like well what's the point? Why should

689
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000
I give the most? Why should I try

690
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000
and create something that people are

691
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000
going to really get invested in? Get their heart

692
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000
invested in when I know

693
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000
that when it comes around to episode number eight

694
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000
or ten whatever it is on

695
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000
Lower Decks that

696
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000
that's it. Yeah.

697
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000
You know what was a nice touch actually?

698
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000
Phillips. His alternate was King Phillips.

699
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000
That is a nice call back

700
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000
to very many few

701
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000
seasons before. That was a great episode as well

702
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000
when his mother's always trying to get him

703
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000
to take the throne. Yeah. But again

704
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000
it's kind of like it's

705
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000
only funny because it was funny

706
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000
elsewhere. Yes. You know what I mean?

707
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000
Because it makes you think about a funny thing

708
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000
back. So that was like oh that's

709
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000
King Phillips. That's the one decision that was made

710
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000
differently. He's actually still on the ship but

711
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000
now he's King you know

712
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000
which was the whole problem with it. But

713
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000
I don't feel like I want to

714
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000
go play by play with it.

715
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000
It's so short. There isn't much

716
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000
point. It actually felt

717
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000
heading towards excluding

718
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000
the comedy. It genuinely felt more towards

719
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000
a TNG episode. Yeah.

720
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000
Let's we've got to build this bridge between

721
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000
the two ships. We can

722
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000
open it up. Oh my god.

723
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000
It turns out there's been a little bit of

724
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000
treachery. We've sorted it out. End of episode.

725
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000
That's a TNG episode.

726
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000
Dare we say this one was phoned in?

727
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000
Is it that bad?

728
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000
I mean because I did enjoy it.

729
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000
I want to really make it the point

730
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000
I did enjoy it. But at no point

731
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000
did I actually sit there

732
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000
and laugh out loud. I got some smiles

733
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000
at myself of like oh yeah I like that.

734
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000
That's cute. But other episodes

735
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000
I've literally burst into

736
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000
laughter. Well like I said, the final episode

737
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000
of series four you need to watch

738
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000
because I was genuinely

739
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000
everything. So so so

740
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000
many different emotions.

741
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Right so brief

742
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000
pause then. So a couple of bits

743
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000
we did notice then. Opening credit

744
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000
battle. There's a few extra

745
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000
things extra in it. Is it the hand?

746
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000
So there's a hand which is Apollo's hand

747
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000
grasping the Borg cube from

748
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000
the original series and that's from an

749
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000
episode called Who Moans the Earth.

750
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000
Who Moans for Adonis?

751
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000
Who Moans for Adonis?

752
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000
Which is the episode

753
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000
which we were talking about at the beginning which is

754
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000
the interracial kiss. Basically

755
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000
they worship Greek gods

756
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000
on this planet, these aliens. And

757
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000
they basically use the Greek god

758
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000
powers to make them all do things that they're not meant

759
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000
to. You've got Tholian shipped

760
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000
weaving a web from the original series

761
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000
the Tholian web as well turns up

762
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
in it. And then you've got Vege's

763
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000
probe cloud from Star Trek the Motion

764
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000
Picture. That's the giant thing right?

765
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000
So I noticed a hand in the giant thing

766
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000
yeah. Yep so we've got

767
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000
a little bit of a new one. I don't know if that's

768
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000
going to be in all of them or if that was just a

769
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000
particular one for the one off. I'm hoping it

770
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000
will be in all of them. It would be nice that they've actually updated it a little

771
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000
bit for this series.

772
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000
It would be nice if they updated it every series.

773
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000
It would be really good. That would be quite a nice touch.

774
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000
Maybe they did, maybe we just never noticed.

775
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Maybe we did notice it yeah.

776
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000
The blue orions then. Any idea where they came

777
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000
from? Because the orions turned up in the original

778
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000
series. No.

779
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000
They turned up in the animated series.

780
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000
Okay. And they were a

781
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000
one off character on the animated series

782
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000
and they're probably going to be a one off.

783
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000
They're not going to be a one off character are they? Because they've just

784
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000
gone to war. Yeah. With

785
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000
the green orions.

786
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000
The green orions. Sorry, yes you're right.

787
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
We are in a really difficult spot

788
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000
because so often

789
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000
an episode of Star Trek

790
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,000
gives us loads to talk about.

791
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000
There isn't.

792
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000
I know we sometimes

793
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000
do the blow by blow

794
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000
but even if it feels like we already have

795
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000
done the blow by blow bit to it

796
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000
by just talking about the bits that we enjoyed.

797
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Yeah. It's a

798
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000
little bit bittersweet for me because

799
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000
it's the last Star Trek one

800
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000
we're going to be doing on

801
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000
the pod while it's named after Star

802
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000
Trek. Well we're going to do Star Trek

803
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000
again but it's not going to be for a while.

804
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000
And let's face it, this is where the Untitled

805
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Trek show spawned from it.

806
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Spawned from Lower Decks. Yeah.

807
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000
And we did

808
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000
that Lower Decks episode with

809
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000
the guys from the Save Lower Decks on Facebook

810
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000
and it's

811
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000
technically the last season and I just, for me

812
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000
it's very bittersweet that I didn't

813
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000
actually, I wasn't

814
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000
there thinking, oh this is so good I can't

815
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000
wait to watch all the rest of Lower Decks.

816
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
You know. Whereas at the moment I was like, I'm

817
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
going to watch them because I love Lower

818
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000
Decks. But if I was basing my

819
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000
whole process on this one episode

820
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000
probably wouldn't. I

821
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000
probably wouldn't be sat here going

822
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000
you know, because I only watched Lower Decks

823
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000
because you were saying to me, you've got to watch this. You will

824
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000
like this. Because I remember we said I just

825
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000
rushed it. 100%. And don't forget

826
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000
the first time I watched it I wasn't blown away.

827
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000
I watched it in the wrong mood completely

828
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000
and just thought, no, not

829
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000
more crap. Went back and watched

830
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
it a second time and then was glued to

831
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000
it. So it's

832
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,000
one of these shows that you do need to give a chance

833
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000
to but also be in the right

834
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000
mind for. But it's not the matter of

835
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000
being in the wrong mind this time. It is just

836
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000
a matter of, I think, you know

837
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000
the more I think about it, you nailed on the head

838
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000
it felt phoned in. I'm

839
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
glad it's back. But

840
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000
I expected

841
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000
more. Yeah. I think

842
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000
if you had said to me, oh no, this was a brilliant episode

843
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000
I might have watched it again.

844
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Because I'm going to watch the end of season 4 which I really

845
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000
should have done. Maybe I should watch that and then re-watch

846
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000
this one and see if I think differently of it.

847
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000
Plus not using the eyes of I need

848
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000
to pay attention to certain things for the show.

849
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Yes. And I do wonder

850
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000
actually I make the point

851
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000
of painting it even.

852
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000
I might be painting it

853
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000
in an unfair light here as in

854
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000
I'm being unfairly positive

855
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
about it because of how

856
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
good the episode that preceded it was.

857
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000
Honestly I came out of the

858
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000
episode before it buzzing.

859
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Really, really buzzing

860
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000
thinking, shit, we'd not

861
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000
seen Lower Decks this good.

862
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
This is amazing.

863
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000
So I came into it

864
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000
full of dopamine, full of happiness,

865
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000
full of I'm well up for this.

866
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000
I'm glad it's back.

867
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000
So maybe I'm being overly positive.

868
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Maybe you're not the one that's actually

869
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000
in the wrong here or thinking

870
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000
that you're in the wrong. Maybe

871
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,000
it was overly disappointing

872
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000
for more than just us.

873
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000
You know what I really like the idea of?

874
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000
When we start the show again

875
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000
next year. Doing it with Star Trek.

876
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
No, and we talk about, because I think we're going to do

877
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Ghostbusters, aren't we?

878
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000
And we both go, what have you watched over the holiday?

879
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000
And all we do is talk about Lower Decks.

880
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Lower Decks.

881
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000
Well that's it.

882
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000
That is it. That's it.

883
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
The Christmas special.

884
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
The next episode is

885
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000
the Christmas special.

886
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000
I will pop a trailer out for it

887
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000
before then.

888
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000
And if I have a better idea

889
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000
of the exact date.

890
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000
Still aiming for the 16th, but if something happens

891
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000
you know, I'm realising already

892
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000
it's going to be a massive

893
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
hall of a edit.

894
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000
So as I said last time,

895
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000
if it's not out on the 16th, I will tell you when.

896
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Just check out

897
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000
Watch this space.

898
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000
Yeah, check out Bluestar Guy X.

899
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000
Either mine or Tom's.

900
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Whoever you follow. Doesn't matter.

901
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000
You'll see it on one of us.

902
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Yeah, so

903
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000
that's it for the Untitled Trek show.

904
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000
If you want it for hearing us

905
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000
to talk live on the Untitled Trek show.

906
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
That's the last one.

907
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Yeah.

908
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000
So don't delete this feed

909
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000
after you've listened to this episode.

910
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000
We are just going to change the name on the feed.

911
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000
So the picture may

912
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
or may not change.

913
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
We've not decided on the artwork yet.

914
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000
I think that's going to fall really in line with

915
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,000
deciding on the ultimate final name of the show,

916
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000
isn't it?

917
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
But the feed will remain this feed.

918
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
So new episodes will still appear in this

919
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000
feed. We're not going to create a new one.

920
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000
You're not going to have to add something.

921
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000
You're going to search through the various

922
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
archive all bloody search facilities

923
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
at Apple, Spotify, Amazon, you name it.

924
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Just keep this one. Name will change.

925
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
It'll still be good.

926
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
That's it. As we said,

927
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
all the features are still going to be there.

928
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000
We're still going to be doing skits.

929
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000
It's still going to be the shit show. It will still be the shit show.

930
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000
The shit show is still going to be

931
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000
flying about the space.

932
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
We'll have Trek roulette. It might evolve

933
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000
slightly when it finally comes out.

934
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000
Mug watch is going to evolve to the

935
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000
entire multiverse of all

936
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000
sci-fi.

937
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Was there any mugs in this episode? I didn't spot any.

938
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
No, the only mug was us watching it.

939
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Zing!

940
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000
Oh, Paramount, what have you done?

941
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000
And the new, the brand new

942
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000
feature

943
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000
brought, invented by TJ

944
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
over on channel

945
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000
on the variety show pod

946
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000
is the new

947
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000
nonce watch.

948
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Oh, no!

949
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000
No, that is not happening.

950
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000
We are not having nonce watch.

951
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000
It's going to be like trash talk.

952
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000
Trash talk, yeah. Nonce watch.

953
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
Yeah, we miss you, Killer Rabbit, guys.

954
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000
We do miss you, Killer Rabbit.

955
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
Command functions are offline.

956
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Right, where can they find us?

957
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
You can find us on our email

958
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000
addresses at podcast

959
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
at channel84.co.uk

960
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000
or rob for me

961
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000
at channel84.co.uk

962
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000
or tom, tom at

963
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000
no, TJ, TJ

964
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000
at channel84.co.uk

965
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Even in the last episode of the Unsighted Trek show

966
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000
he still can't do it.

967
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000
TJ at channel84.co.uk

968
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000
And it is

969
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000
our website is www.channel84.co.uk

970
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000
and you can find

971
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000
all of the Studio Channel 84

972
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
shows there.

973
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000
Untitled Trek so it's going to be renamed

974
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000
something else, the variety show

975
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
which is Tom and I. Who takes

976
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,000
the socks off? Simon and

977
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000
Ross and

978
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000
Adam and Karen with Lightly Used.

979
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000
I had a fucking blank then.

980
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000
Yeah, I heard the brain fart.

981
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Yeah, Lightly Used with

982
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Karen and Adam.

983
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Find us on Twitter

984
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000
at the Untitled Trek show

985
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000
or the variety show. Are you at the

986
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000
variety show on Twitter?

987
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,000
Underscore the variety show.

988
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000
No, I'm Underscore channel 84

989
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000
aren't I?

990
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Underscore channel 84 and Underscore Untitled Trek show.

991
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000
Over on Blue Sky just search for the Untitled Trek show.

992
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Or

993
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000
search for...

994
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Or you can look up if you know how to use

995
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Blue Sky, go to lists and look up Studio

996
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000
Channel 84 and you can find all of us listed there

997
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
and you can just follow us all with one click of a button.

998
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000
That too.

999
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000
So that's it, I guess.

1000
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Thank you very much everyone who've

1001
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000
enjoyed the show. Yeah, thank you for all

1002
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
the Star Trek questions, everything

1003
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000
like that. It's not going anywhere.

1004
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000
The show's still going to exist.

1005
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000
We are still going to do Star Trek content.

1006
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,000
We're just expanding.

1007
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Like the universe.

1008
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Since I cut out the last one,

1009
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000
it's already fucking Christmas.

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Estimated time unknown.

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