["Pomp and Circumstance"]
Hm...
Heh heh heh heh!
And there they go! Just like your species. Spindles!
I don't care if you're a changeling. Grow some balls!
Hey! In fact, that should make it easier for you.
Ah, Tom! Nice and punctual, I see. Do come in!
Uhhhhhhhhh... Is Ensign Nash okay?
Who cares?
Changelings are all pussies. I should know.
Yeah, I guess you would.
Now come on, hurry up! I got sixteen more of you dipshits to see today,
and I don't want to miss my holodeck slot.
Last time I got stuck in there with Ensign socks for an hour
talking about the intricate details of multi-dimensional travel
and how it affects his delicate sleep routine.
Just another pussy on a ship full of brim with little wet bitch boys.
Meow.
Not pulling any punches today, are you, Councillor?
Punches? What do you know about punches?
I just meant...
What? My bedside manner? You're so fucking delicate, you humans.
Get a little bit of Tentacle Monster from another dimension materialising your cereal in the morning
and reach its tentacles down your throat and out your little japs eye,
and you get, ooh boo hoo, I have to go to the Councillor.
In my defence, this was mandatory.
Mandatory? Do everything you're told to, little wet piss boy.
Oh fuck me, Jesus, you are being a bit harsh.
Harsh? I'll tell you what's harsh. The Creek. Now that was harsh.
What are you on about?
The Creek Ensign. They not teach you that about the Cation War on Malevolent Creek in the Starfleet baby school?
Afraid not.
How? Of course not.
We'll give you little human wet wipes nightmares.
I tell you, those damn bots had us outnumbered twenty to one.
My eye got them. Send them straight back to the steel mill.
Here we go.
You'd never have survived, you jelly-leg wetted puss boy.
You don't know what it's like to drop into a hostile world with just your claws, a couple of charge packs and your three brothers.
I'm sure you would have had phasers.
The heat that gets you first. The air closes in on your lungs, crushing you, leaving you short breathed.
Shit! Drop and roll!
Containment breach. All security personnel to Deck 13. All non-essential staff, please return to your quarters until further notice.
For fuck's sake, Rob.
Giggity, giggity.
Alright then.
It's recording.
I thought it was.
I wish I'd started recording when you said, welcome to my butthole.
Welcome to my butthole.
Oh yeah.
Hello and welcome to the Untitled Trek show.
Hello. We're back.
We're back. Once again.
In the Renegade Master.
I was going to start saying that and I was like, no, we've got to say something else because I've done that before as a bit underneath which Adam caught.
Okay. You could do independence day. I'm back.
So before we get started.
I'll be back.
I'll be back. We are back. We are back.
So before we get started.
Yes.
Breaking all of my rules.
But.
No. Surely not.
Who'd have thought I'd go back on something that I would say.
Firstly, the bonus you did with Kay. Brilliant.
That was great.
That was brilliant.
Really good.
Yeah. And I hope that you can get her to watch the second one.
Oh, she is going to watch a couple more.
Absolutely.
I wonder if maybe we could watch it together because I haven't watched them.
Oh, that'd be a good idea. I think she'd really enjoy that.
Together. We could talk about it whilst watching it.
So yeah, really good.
But I'm sorry.
Karen's been in touch.
Oh, we have a correction.
Oh, am I getting a slap on the wrist for something?
Let's find out.
Oh, hi, Karen.
Fancy seeing you here.
Well, seeing as I've caught you, I have a correction on the recent bonus episode.
13 minutes 54 seconds.
The presenter, I believe he is called Tom or something like that.
The one who likes those monkey films.
Incorrectly state that Lower Decks was canceled after season one,
brackets pushes up glasses.
I'd like to state that Lower Decks has actually run for four seasons with,
as I am sure you are aware,
the first season airing in August, 2020,
continuing up to the season four ending in November, 2023.
Now I'd please kindly ask you to remind these silly old men.
That it's not fair for them to think they can host a Star Trek show
and get the most fundamental facts incorrect is absolutely laughable.
I'd suggest they post an immediate apology on their social media
and address this post haste in their upcoming episode.
Regards.
Trek super fan number one,
P.S. Topal is my beauty queen forever.
What you got to say for yourself?
Well, obviously that fan's a prick.
An utter, utter prick.
They could obviously tell I was talking about Prodigy being canceled after series one.
No, so after receiving this I went back and you said Prodigy was canceled after season one
and then you said that you and I like another show called Lower Decks,
which was also canceled after season one.
Okay, you're very quickly becoming a prick as well.
I had to follow it up.
I had to.
Someone took the time to write that email and send it in.
Star Trek super fan number one.
Did they really?
And they quite fancy Topal, do they?
Well, I don't know what to say about that, mate, but you know.
Well, I think I know who Star Wars fan number one is.
Star Trek.
Now we're going to get another correction
because you got the correction person's name incorrect.
Well, he obviously loves Star Wars as well as Star Trek.
No one does.
Enter authorization code.
Oh, so what sci-fi have you indulged in in the last fortnight?
We saw Twistas last night.
That's sci-fi.
It was okay. It wasn't brilliant.
It wasn't a mark on the original film.
It needed more cows.
For those of you that remember that film and that exact scene.
You know what?
The ride in Universal, when you come out, you always go into the shops.
They sell cows as toys.
Oh, really?
Well, this one's got chickens instead.
That's a bit more boring.
No, but it was quite funny.
It got a laugh out of us. It's fine.
Now, you know what? It's not a terrible film.
It does the suspense well.
It does the tornadoes amazingly well.
The effects were brilliant.
I remember the original being really good.
I'd love to watch it not on VHS.
I don't know if that would ruin it somewhat.
You know how sometimes you watch something in standard definitions
and it just looks amazing.
And then you see the HD remastered and it's like,
oh, I can see the string.
That sort of thing.
I don't know. I'd be intrigued to see it.
But no, if you've got free cinema tickets or cheap tickets,
go and see it.
Otherwise, wait for it on streaming.
It's not one that you're going to feel really sad you didn't see it at the cinema.
So we saw that.
I took KTC Dispiquen 4.
Any good?
Really good. Really good.
I love all of them to be fair.
They've been super, super solid.
What's the company? Is it Illuminae?
Illuminae.
I think they're really good because they did the Mario film too.
They did the Mario. They did the Secret Life of Pets.
And the Secret Life of Pets 2 is nowhere near as good as the first one.
But that first Secret Life of Pets is brilliant.
Minions has been brilliant.
Despicable Me has been brilliant.
The Super Mario film was brilliant.
They're a good company actually.
I'm pretty impressed with them.
Yeah. I like their stuff too.
I think it's decent.
And then I actually went back to start watching some of the Planet of the Apes films.
And I'm not going to have you...
Oh God. He's on about the monkey films again.
It wasn't you. The man who edits.
The narrator.
The man who edits the show.
I'm not doing you any favors this week.
We can all suffer together.
Play on Maestro. Play on.
Anyway, so I went to see...
Didn't go to see. Jesus, did I time travel?
No. I dialed it up. Disney Plus has all of them.
Beneath the Planet of the Apes is the one I'm watching.
And just to make sure the narrator really, really doesn't fuck with me.
I saw beneath the Planet of the Apes.
It was released in 1970.
Fucking monkey films.
Give me sweet release.
Hang about. You also watched South Park.
Oh yes. I saw South Park at the cinema.
Not sci-fi, but you could say it's sci-fi because of the V chip.
Oh my God. It was so good on the big screen.
I was... everyone in there.
Just this entire energy in that room.
And every time, so everyone laughed at the same times, exactly the same moments.
You just got this genuine feeling that everyone in that screen were like,
we're so excited for this.
And they even put it on one of the biggest screen.
They put it on the super screen, which is the second biggest screen Cineworld has,
at Hemel Hempstead. It was fucking awesome.
I was disappointed not more people were singing.
But at the same time, I'm quite glad they weren't because then I would have been like,
shut up, I'm trying to listen to the songs.
Was it just a room full of middle-aged men?
No, there were women there as well.
Young? Anyone young?
Yeah, there were some good 18 to 24 year olds, I would have said.
And they got all the jokes?
Probably not.
Yeah, because I mean, maybe not a South Park film,
but a lot of South Park is very much the pop culture of the time it's taken the piss out of.
Oh, 100%.
If you weren't around at those times, I'm getting a massive tangent here.
This is not Cypher related.
Saw a great TikTok with a comedian,
and he was talking to someone young about Beyonce,
and he's like, I bet you didn't know Beyonce was in a group.
And the guy's like, I had no idea.
Really?
Because it was too young.
For him, the kid was like 18 or something.
And Beyonce has not been in Destiny's Child for as long as this person can remember.
So he had no idea.
I mean, how often does Beyonce go around saying that she used to be in Destiny's Child?
That's very true.
Now, fun facts from it.
Trey Parker stated that he's a fan of the musical Lemmys.
Yeah.
And the song La Resistance is based on the Lemmys song One Day More.
Which is what you said.
What I picked up on, yeah.
So there was that.
And you know, I thought I must bring it up, and I can't remember.
The number of little things I was spotting, because it was on the giant screen,
seeing all the little additional jokes that they'd hidden in there.
Like you said with the pie chart, there's so much hidden in there
that you would never see on a smaller screen.
Yeah.
When I was watching it critically, because of what it is for the show,
I was noticing things.
And I think during the war scene, where you see more characters,
like the Hunters and stuff are there, there's bits going on in the background and stuff.
They do lots of little things.
There is so much in there, but you know, 100% it was just, it's just perfect.
It was absolutely perfect.
I'd completely forgotten about the whole Shizer scene in the film as well.
What's this?
This man's doing a shit on someone.
It's Cartman's mum!
Oh God, yeah.
That's how he are.
And then she explains, doesn't she explain what Bukaki is?
Like Ron.
I can't remember, but I just remember when he's laying in bed, he's like,
Mum, you'd tell me if you were in a German Shizer film, wouldn't you?
I've completely forgotten about the Jacket Potato.
I knew Kenny died and I completely forgot about the fact that...
Oh yeah, it was the Jacket Potato.
Who's cooking a potato in this microwave?
Yeah, because they're supposed to put the heart in, but then they forget
and actually put the Jacket Potato into Kenny and that's the way he dies.
I love the fact that that was George Clooney as well.
It was George Clooney?
It was George Clooney.
Oh, that was the thing.
I'm sure it was because he was one of the...
So don't forget, George Clooney has been one of the people that were
involved heavily in the creation of South Park, really,
because I think it was him that shared...
Was it him that shared the original?
I'm not sure.
So basically the story goes that there was someone famous,
I can't remember if it was George Clooney now,
shared Matt and Trey's Christmas little clip they did
and he basically pirated it on loads of VHS and had it out to all his friends
and that's kind of where South Park then came from.
But yeah, I'm just looking at the list here.
George Clooney was Dr. Gouache.
Yeah.
Brent Spinal's Conan O'Brien.
So there's your Star Trek link.
Mini Driver was Brooke Shields.
Eric Idle was Dr. Vosknocker.
I forgot that was Eric Idle.
I like how they couldn't get the actual actors to play the actors.
Other than Matt Damon, always plays Matt Damon in their stuff.
Well, that's what's really funny as well,
because if you watched the credits at the end,
it comes up and it's like starring George Clooney, Brent Spinal.
The following actors were not in this film
and we just used voices to make them.
Then it makes you think they're in it.
No, no, it was basically...
It just states these people do not endorse this film
and were not part of this film.
Oh, it just lists them. That's great.
So yeah, they absolutely went for it.
But George Clooney isn't there.
And just a little question.
Do you know George Clooney's other character?
He just plays in South Park.
It's from the first season, I think.
It might be the second.
No, I'm pretty sure it's the first season.
He plays one character.
I'd love it if he was Big Gay Al, but I don't think he is.
He was Sparky the gay dog.
Oh, was he?
He was Stan's dog Sparky.
That's the right episode though, right?
It is, yeah.
It is the Big Gay Al episode.
He's just an amazing character as well.
Anyway, it was amazing.
So worth seeing in the cinema.
And then you've got Deadpool and Wolverine coming up.
I've got Deadpool and Wolverine tomorrow night.
Oh, I can't wait for you to tell me about that.
Tomorrow night.
I've then got Alien Romulus book now for August.
I look forward to hearing about that too.
It's very exciting.
Making use of my card finally.
What have I been watching?
Yeah, what have you been watching?
So we're still on Supernatural.
We're on the last episode of season one now.
Okay.
It's just such a good show, isn't it?
Did you ever say if you've watched it?
I've watched the first season and I never got around to watching any more of it.
But I really enjoyed the first season, but I really like the car they have.
Yeah, I've got a toy upstairs and sometimes Teeve will play with it.
And he'd be like, can I play with your toy car?
That's the only one that he says is mine.
Everything else he says is his.
Like I've got like a cabinet with like loads of just collectible toy things.
I take everything out of the box. I don't care if he plays with it.
Oh, definitely.
He'll start off by going, can I play with your toys?
And I'll be like, they're not my toys. They're our toys.
And they go, okay.
And now he just says they're his.
But that car still, because I always take it back and put that back because I really like it.
And you know what that came out of?
A loot box.
Yes, you said it came out of a loot box.
That's the best thing I've ever got out of a loot box.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I was the only other good thing I've ever seen come out of a loot box really was those things out of that Doctor Who one.
That you had.
So really quickly, I'm at South Park because I remembered, number one, the thing I never noticed before when Saddam's packing his suitcase to go up, he has a Hitler doll.
Does he?
Yeah, the doll is Hitler.
And secondly, you know, Kenny says goodbye at the very end.
That was Mike Judge that did the voice for that.
And Mike Judge was the person that created Beavis and Butthead, King of the Hill.
So I love the fact that nothing to do with South Park.
In fact, what you would say is probably a competitor in the cartoon world.
And he's doing the voice for Kenny.
I just think that's brilliant.
Kenny takes his hood off and starts speaking.
Yeah.
Other than Supernatural, Moran has been watching Discovery of Witches, which we've watched the whole thing of before, which is actually okay, to be honest.
And yeah, I've been playing Elden Ring, which I'm not going to go massively into.
I've spoken about it last time.
It's very difficult.
I'm having trouble with it, but really like it.
I will say you spoke about it and I cut 90% of it.
The last episode where you spoke about it, it basically said, I've been playing Elden Ring and that's all I've been doing.
I listened back to it.
I thought I didn't think you cut that much of it, did you?
I didn't go into it much.
I cut over eight minutes.
Was that you getting your own back on me for the monkey thing?
No, it was because that last episode was at one hour, 25, and we needed to get it at least near an hour.
I got it down to one hour, 14, I think, which I thought was pretty good going.
I think that's a good way to tangent into the point of today's episode, which is questions.
Ooh.
Do do do do.
Accessing library computer data.
So we've got four questions this week.
Well, four people have sent things in.
Hello, people.
We have Simon from the Studio Channel Ava podcast, who takes the socks off.
We've got Matt from Appindacathulu.
We've got my good friend Stiddy.
And we've got Adam from the Studio Channel 84 production, Lightly Used.
So a little bit of a Studio Channel 84 thing going on today.
Not on purpose.
It's just the order the questions come in.
It's the way it goes.
So we'll start off with Simon's.
And I'm just going to go ahead and just read it.
I'm not going to do his voice.
A lot of things featured in sci-fi of the 60s and 70s have become reality.
Communication in your hand, headsets, flat screens and so on.
What do you see in today's sci-fi that you think will become a reality going forward?
Also, when?
That's a really cool question.
I really like that because, yeah, so many people attribute Star Trek to creating things like mobile phones.
Now, actually, if you dig into it, you realize that there was sci-fi done before Star Trek.
That communicators like that existed.
But people just jump on it.
It's like the interracial kiss thing.
Star Trek's lauded as the first interracial kiss.
But there's evidence online that shows actually other TV series did it beforehand.
It's just because Star Trek was so big at the time that actually that's why it gets kind of classified as the first one to do it.
As for the question, God, there's so much.
I feel like just quickly, we used to have mobile phones.
I just kind of feel like it's just an evolution of the walkie talkie.
100%.
People had phones in their houses and we had walkie talkies.
I think the difference being that if you look at, and we'll stick with it being Star Trek, although we know that that probably isn't the origin of it.
Star Trek had the handheld little flip communicator from the original series.
So whereas walkie talkies back then were still giant beasts of a unit.
I mean, you look at the ones that we used for things like Vietnam, either carried in a backpack or they were like the size of your thigh.
So walkie talkies were not small, yet we've got a similar era with the original series.
And they're using this little communicator that can speak across a planet and it fits in the palm of their hand.
So I can see where people got the idea that, yes, that was kind of where the idea for mobile phones came from.
But you're right, mobile phones were just the evolution of the walkie talkie.
I thought what I'd do is I'm just going to name a few kind of Trek tech items.
And we can just discuss whether you think that would or wouldn't or what our version of it realistically would be.
Yeah, OK.
So obviously teleporters or transporters, as everyone wants me to say.
So I think it's just because I quickly say flat no.
It's a flat nothing like that exists.
So realistically, that's probably one of the only things from the original series Star Trek and any sci-fi of that era and before that would successfully be.
They invented it with their brain based on nothing else.
Yeah, because, yeah, the science behind it proves it can't happen and we have nothing that was similar to it.
Now, if you look back and using your radio analogy for a moment that we've been talking about, Gene Roddenberry was Air Force, I believe.
He was a pilot at one point.
And the likelihood is, is when he was basing the original series of Star Trek and he said it was based heavily on naval, hence the reason the original films, they blow the Bosons whistle.
And there's all sorts of things like that going on.
And you look at the ranking structure of the original series crew, that's all very naval.
So the likelihood is he just said, right, well, how do they communicate in real life now?
Walkie talkies.
Right.
How could we make that futuristic?
And it's always make it really small.
You look at anything up to current day, isn't it?
To make it futuristic, you have to just make it really small.
Yeah.
Or implantable.
I think the closest we've spoke about this before quantum entanglement is kind of the closest thing.
Yeah.
And that's not really transferring one thing to another.
It's just one thing in a different place in what's not space time, is it just in space because it's not free time is being manipulated by something else because they're locked in a quantum level, which I don't understand or can ever really even come.
No, it's just look it up.
Just somebody look up quantum entanglement and you can do the reading.
Exactly.
And I think recent sci fi started trying to use that as a way of doing futuristic tech, haven't they saying quantum entanglement is how ships can move through vast areas of space within the blink of an eye rather than.
So we can talk about that.
So warp.
Yeah.
Apparently, so I listened to Neil deGrasse Tyson's podcast, he's called Star Talk, and they had one, they're basically saying it is, as far as everyone's aware, impossible to travel faster than light for people to travel faster than light.
So the idea is there's not going to be like a warp.
It's going to be folding space time.
Yeah, which is event horizon.
If you've seen that sci fi film.
What they talk about is not traveling at the speed of light, but instead, and I think they demonstrate it don't they by folding a piece of paper and then poking a pencil through it and going through the fold to get through to the other side.
Theoretically, that's possible.
Yeah, so yeah, I think if if it were going to happen.
That's what it would be.
Or into well, the other option would be the interstellar version isn't it which is traveling is it via a black hole is that how they do that one.
I've never seen it.
It ends with him going into a black hole.
And you know things happen inside the black hole.
But I don't think that's really how he travels there.
I can't remember how he's doing it.
Fair enough.
I'm happy to be wrong.
But he goes over the event horizon.
Yeah, in that.
So that kind of does to space travel.
Yeah, so transport is it's just a no.
Yeah, space travel wise.
Yes, science right now says warps not possible folding space.
Super super super super complex to even vaguely understand how you do that.
But yeah, it's not going to happen is it.
I know they're using things like ion drives now they're trying to build which just purely the movement of a few ions to propel something.
And people are now evidencing that actually yes they could be used for space travel which means they need super low energy which means you could travel a really long distance without the need for a huge amount of fuel.
It's because they need all of the fuel to get out of the atmosphere.
Exactly.
Once they're in space there's no there's no which is nothing to slow you down.
Bizarrely, that's why Armageddon always did quite a good job as much of a cheesy film as it is, and based on no science at all.
I love the fact that yeah, they don't just blast them into space and just have them go off the asteroid, they blast into space, then have them, you need more fuel you've used all your feet I really like that as a story arc because it's, it's true.
I think what it will come down to is it will be space stations, building, like they do in in Star Trek, building the spacecrafts in space, and just transporting materials up, or, you know, there's that meteor that supposedly coming past in the next few years isn't
supposed to have more wealth on it than whoever knows what, you know, somehow capturing those, I mean it's not something you could lock into orbit because it probably would cause trouble until you know, until we perfect fusion.
And until we come up with a way of folding space, space travel is going to be slow and boring and the only thing I can see for the future would be like you say, space stations along a very straight route.
Space stations on that route that you would build going out there. And then yeah, the colonising of Mars would be, if you're going to move your family out there, it's X number of years to move out there. Yeah. And then you ain't coming back.
We don't send ships back. It'll always be, we send ships there and they just get recycled. Yeah.
So what I've got goes on to a little bit about what you and Kay spoke about in the prodigy episode about gravity. Oh, yeah. One thing I'd say, because I think you or she may have said turning gravity off.
I think it's not so much that they're turning gravity off. They're turning off. I think that that planet probably has a very low gravity and they are artificially increasing it and they're turning that off.
And you can do that, but I think it happens in the Martian. The ship, you notice the ship spins. Yeah. So it's creating the centrifugal force, which pushes them against the floor.
Yes. So technically that that's roughly how they do it in there. That's not how they're doing on Star Trek planet. No, but then if you look at things like the vomit comet as well, which is NASA's plane, doing the parabolic arches, you're not really losing gravity.
So although they're saying you're weightless, you've still got gravity. The problem is what it actually is. You're in free fall and the plane, you're free falling at the same time as the plane. So that's why you float about basically.
Yeah. I'd like to think that that would be something maybe solved in the future. I don't think we'll ever be able to turn gravity off because it's just one of those forces that are there from day one.
It's a natural force. It's naturally occurring. It's not just something you can switch on and off. And if it were to be a, there was a material on our planet that could block gravity somehow, we would have found that by now.
But realistically, I think artificial gravity is definitely going to improve. I think that's going to get better as time goes. And I think you're right. It's more likely to be, we'll just find a proper method of either when we're in orbit doing a specific thing will create that artificial gravity.
I think the Martian does it perfectly. It does actually. It does have that whole ship spinning. Phasers and laser guns basically already exist. Yeah, they do. But you just don't see the phaser or laser. No. They're just light. Exactly. They're just an energy beam.
You tell me if we've got secret military weapons that can do it. Supposedly we've got micro guns. So we've got rail cannons that exist, but they use huge amounts of power. So they've never been at this point a suitable weapon.
And that goes back to if we develop fusion and you could have a fusion reactor on a battle ship, then a rail gun is going to be perfect because you're going to have this pretty much unlimited power supply for it.
The lasers you're right exist. And I think the British government's just paid huge sums of money to have some mounted on ships. Basically what they'll do, they will take out drones and missiles with an invisible laser beam.
Awesome. I know people have made laser cannons. If you look up on YouTube, there's people that have bought medical lasers. And I think the backyard scientist, brilliant YouTube channel if you've never watched him, very weird bloke, but very funny.
He's bought a laser, a industrial laser. And he basically shoots at a rock at one point and he drills a hole through a rock within milliseconds. It's scary how powerful they actually are.
This is kind of what we were saying to Stuart the other day about the ones that shoot the bugs. Yes. Yeah, that's the same thing. He has some that shoots water, but I think there's also ones that he shoots microwaves.
He just torches them in the sky. Yes. He shoots them.
So yeah, phased and lasered ones already exist. Again, AI computers, will they exist? Yeah, and they're getting more and more sophisticated as we go.
I just don't think we'll anytime soon anyway. I don't think in our lifetime, we will ever see a ship governed by AI.
I feel more like the computers on Star Trek aren't really AI governing things. I think they are just chat GPT-esque things, but they're also just taking over a lot of the menial task and knowing when there's something wrong and just saying it.
It feels very, what's the word, a raulga mythic, if that's a word, where it just knows it like they kind of do now. It's only in Discovery where it's an quote unquote actual AI.
Yeah, which if you look at any of the other Star Trek series, I think TNG does it a couple of times.
I'm not sure if Voyager does, but I know there's been at least a couple of episodes where they've said one person cannot fly a starship and they jerry-rig it in a way and they've basically said you've got very basic controls, but that's all.
Yeah. And you look at the bridge, it's still full of crew, isn't it? You've still got to have someone on weapon. The computer's not just doing everything for it.
It makes you wonder because of the way that he's kind of set that future up where there's no money. They have to have jobs for people, so they can't have AI doing everything because people will have nothing to do. People need a purpose.
Which is what we get with that Lower Decks episode, don't we, with the AI ships going and doing better than the Cerritos.
So yeah, no, I just don't think it will ever happen because I think we aren't, as silly as it might sound, we aren't ever going to basically give the keys to the kingdom to a computer.
No.
We are always going to have somewhere in the middle some sort of breaker, whether it's a human or a crew of humans.
Well, yeah, unless the key gets taken away from us.
True.
You're striking your pussy.
I think I caught that one.
Question number two from Matt from Pines Cathedral.
Hi Matt.
Hi Matt. If someone manning the transporter, you said that wrong there, Matt, you mean teleporter, so I'll say that again for you.
If someone manning the teleporter was a bit of a dick, could they teleport someone but without clothes or even worse, just straight up remove their body parts?
Yes.
I absolutely think they probably could.
But I do think talking about what we were doing about the AI or the algorithm computer, whatever, there's probably safeguards that they cannot stop.
So we've really seen it. It's already been done.
There's TNG bits and pieces, there's Voyager bits in it.
Number one, we constantly see when O'Brien transports someone, he's like, hmm, they've got a weapon on them.
Don't worry, we've disabled the weapon.
Yeah.
And they must be able to do physical things to items on someone's body that's being transported.
Well, I think it can differentiate between what's person and what's clothes.
Yeah.
We've seen in the Tuvix episode, clothing gets merged, which means obviously transporters do kind of deal with everything.
I know it merged the two people as well.
Long live Tuvix, ha ha.
But no, and then we've also got things like when they've brought people back from the planet's surface and it's gone, oh no, yeah, they've got something wrong with them.
They've got some sort of bacteria or a virus.
It's been mentioned before that, oh, well, we can't beam it out of them because it's so interlinked with XYZ part of their body that we can't do it.
Hence, to fix the plot basically, to keep the plot going.
But that suggests that that's what they would normally do.
They would beam someone up and go, no, okay, yeah, no, just beam them out without it.
And I know, I reckon the clothes, absolutely they would.
I bet there's been a fair few drunkard parties where people have been beamed up and they've been beamed onto the bridge, start naked.
Yeah, and that'd be really funny. I would do that.
100%.
So you think, so yeah, that's why I think none of them are really ever ill because if you just teleport yourself, then suddenly they just go, oh, he's got a cold.
You've woken up with a bit of a flu. Just teleport yourself to the bathroom and then the computer is just going to remove the flu from you.
Yeah, but don't forget, again, we get Gates McFadden Beverly Crusher.
Be out of the job.
Basically, no, she says in one of the episodes when one of the captains got a headache, and that's the episode where the Ferengi bring back the stargazer and they basically use mind control to make them go a little bit mental.
She says, in this century, headaches don't exist anymore, so there must be something wrong with you.
And it's brought up again in another TNG episode, which eludes me at the moment.
And it's, she says the common cold hasn't existed for X number of years now.
So yeah, you get a Temerian flu maybe or something like that.
But that's from another alien world. And then they've just got hypo spray for it.
Yeah, it's kind of a catchall, isn't it? The hypo spray.
Yeah, a little bit.
Stiddy.
Hi Stiddy. I've never met you.
Stiddy is very active on the old Facebook for us.
He's like our number one Facebook man.
Oh, has he got the badge?
Well, send him one.
I'm glad I say because he'll ask me for one now.
You aren't getting a badge.
So him and his friends do their own little gaming conventions.
I might have told you about this before.
No, he's not told me about this.
And they do it at each other's houses.
I think there's five of the guys in total.
Sorry Stiddy, I got that wrong.
And they, Stiddy makes a dice, one dice for it.
And it says like Stiddycon or each of their names.
Oh, that's awesome.
And when he did his first, I asked him for one.
So he gave me one.
And then the next year he gave me one that he did for his friend.
And then he, I don't work with him anymore, so I don't see him.
And we were messaging and he said, and I said, I was like, oh, have you got any more dice?
And he sent me a letter and he had two more dice.
So there's been four. So I've got four special dice now.
That's very cool.
So what we've got from that is that when you see Stiddy, he gives you one.
He gives me one.
Excellent.
You'll love that.
Right.
Stiddy's question.
Are fan made trailers better than studio made trailers?
The writing of a story or the writing of a story is the CGI executed in a more satisfying way.
Mostly Star Wars, but 40K.
And he says something for 40K here.
Astarte's I'm not familiar with 40K and Huxley, the Oracle, same guy does both love death and robots and Oats Studio.
Do these people with fresh ideas work on future projects, be it in film, book or games?
So it feels like there's multiple questions there.
What he's saying is, I think, do we feel like the fan stuff is getting better than basically the studio stuff?
100%.
I don't really go around seeing many fan trailers for things unless I see it accidentally.
Like I nearly text you the other day because I saw a fan made trailer for Predator 6 and it had Dwayne LaRocque Johnson on it.
And I was like, oh no.
And I started watching it.
I was like, they're actually making a Predator film with The Rock.
And then I realized, oh no, this is all just cut together.
Brilliant.
And it did have me for the first 10 seconds.
So I nearly like screenshot it and goes, oh no, they've ruined Predator.
It's not that I particularly have a problem with The Rock, but I would have a problem with him being in the Predator.
So let me break this down really quickly into kind of the separate sections.
So number one, I'm going to start in reverse order here.
We 100% need to bin off 90% of what Hollywood consider their top workers now.
And I feel really mean saying that because I know it's a really hard market out there at the moment, but they are not helping themselves with just this continued remastering or recreating films.
There is no need for it.
Going into Twisters, Twisters wasn't needed.
The one thing that they did right with Twisters is they had their own story rather than it being a continuation, which as much as I wanted it to be a continuation of Twister,
that worked.
However, if they come forward yet again and go, oh, by the way, we're now going to do, oh, let's say The Running Man, brilliant 80s film.
So we're going to remake Running Man.
Or we're going to remake Gremlins or we're going to re-, but this is the way we go.
We've already had Robocop.
The first Robocop, really dark, well, it's a dark, dark action film.
They did Total Recall.
Yeah, well, yeah.
Then they remade Robocop and they made it not an 18 certificate.
They lost all of the funny bits to it.
They lost the darkness to it.
Total Recall, brilliant film, had its cheesy moments, remade it trying to make it really dark and just different.
And it was, it was shit.
And there's no originality to that.
Leave what we've really got.
What they need to be doing is they need to be going into these fan areas.
They need to be going into just the original books.
And I've said this, I'm sure I've said this more times than Variety Show and this show.
Marvel, DC, stop creating the fucking origin story of the sodding characters over and over again.
I'm sick of Spider-Man.
I'm sick of Iron Man.
I'm sick of Superman.
I'm sick of Batman.
You know what I would love to see is them go into their big, big library of all the DC comics and just choosing one graphic novel at random.
Let's say Batman, okay?
Just one that's not an origin.
It's just a random DC Batman novella and just go, that's what we're going to make.
Well, have you not seen Batman with Robert Pearson?
Because that's not an origin.
Exactly.
And it probably is my favorite Batman.
Okay.
And that's perfect, isn't it?
Because they did just that.
But how often are they doing that?
They're not.
They're recreating or they're just polishing up things that we've already had before.
And what Stiddy is asking is quite right.
What the fans are creating now is better because it's original.
They're not trying to remaster or recreate or redo something.
They're creating something based on the show or the thing they love.
And that's why you get good results with it.
Whereas you look at what Hollywood are doing and they're just coming into it and going, well, what have we done before?
Well, okay, well, we've done that.
Let's just redo it.
There is, he mentions 40K here.
There is a 40K one that I have seen.
It was going and doing the rounds.
I might have sent you on TikTok where there's like a big robot one and he's like dying.
The Dreadnought's dying.
I wish I'd see the sky again or whatever.
And there's a space marine there.
Oh, I'm really, oh, no.
Okay.
So you will be upsetting Stiddy if he's a 40K fan.
He's probably going to be quite grumpy now.
So yeah.
What have I said?
So the giant robot is a Dreadnought.
Okay.
So the Dreadnought are, they are battle wounded space marines who have been serving the emperor.
They've gone through many, many battles.
They've done something honorable.
If I remember rightly and again, feel free to come for me, Stiddy, if I've got that wrong.
And what they do is they get put into a sarcophagus, which is the Dreadnought.
And then they basically live as the Dreadnought.
So if they weren't put in that, they'd be dead.
Yeah, basically.
So the Dreadnought is basically a giant live support machine so they can carry on their fight for the emperor.
And then the space marine that's fixing him, I won't say it's an apothecary, but I'm sure there was another name of them.
40K is so cool, isn't it?
It's really fucking cool.
It's so cool.
Whenever I hear things about it, I'm just like, this is flipping brilliant.
If you ever get a chance, I've got it on the PlayStation 5 and on the Xbox.
In fact, that's co-op.
I think we should do that actually.
Space Hulk, the latest one.
It's not just gorgeous.
You play a squad of Terminators and they were the...
Oh man, it's just so, so, so good.
Yeah, the point I'm making with that, that's a kind of a...
I think you're sure it's like a fan-made thing, that video.
And it is really good.
Yeah, it's moving.
It's actually moving.
Graphically, yeah, it's really upsetting.
And when you compare things like that, and we've spoken about this probably, love Death and Robots, which Diddy got me into.
Three seasons now, I think there's like eight episodes per season.
They're all different.
They're all like CGI things.
They are all absolutely fantastic.
They all look brilliant.
All their art styles for every single one is so different.
Some of them are really cartoony.
Some are really dark and gritty like Swarm, which is the one I really like to watch, which is in season three.
Yeah, I really, really need to watch them because I've seen clips of...
So the one I sent you today, you said was from an episode called Suit, and it's basically mech suits going up against this swarm of alien bugs coming towards them.
But the one I really, really, really want to watch, and I just forget about it and I never get around to doing it, is there's three robots walking around Earth and it's been completely kind of end of the world.
So there's no humans left.
And they're basically going around going through the history of humans and what actually happened during this Armageddon.
Yeah.
Season one is a fantastic season.
There's another one called Sunny's Edge, which is, if it's the one I'm thinking of, it's where it's almost like Pokemon, not catching monsters, but it's two monsters fighting and people are controlling the monsters with their mind.
It's so dark and so gritty.
And that's a really good one.
Really, really good one.
There's a film that I'm not desperate to watch, but I'd like to watch, and it's rare that I say this about Anne Hathaway.
Not that she's a bad actor, but she's just not someone I normally would watch in a film unless it just so happens to be in the film.
And there's a film that she discovers when she's at this particular, I think it's when she's at a particular place in a park, she's controlling this giant kind of Godzilla monster.
Yeah.
And she's like, tells her friends at one point in this clip to like, watch the news, and then she's just dancing around and just tamping her feet and so on.
And then they're watching the news and the monsters just destroying the city.
Weird.
Going back to what I think, a lot of the indie studios, the fan stuff, particularly in the CGI area, is way better than what people like Disney are pissing out.
The stuff that, and really I think, I don't think there's a lack of talent at Disney or wherever they're going.
They're not giving them the money, and they're not giving them specifically the time.
Well, that's it, isn't it? And that's where Marvel went wrong.
They were spending so much money and speeding things along, and they were firing people left, right and centre because they were saying we can't meet that deadline.
And you just run out of actual people that can do things for you, which is why things end up looking ropey or not working, because they're trying to rush out another 12 bloody Marvel superhero films rather than giving it the chance of, yeah, go on, have three years to make it and make it something good.
I'm going to do a comparison between two films here.
So there is that San-Chi and the Nine Rings, is that what it's called?
You know which one I mean, don't you?
Yeah.
I have James Bond, the most recent James Bond.
Two films that came out at a very similar time, if I remember correctly, or at least I saw them at a similar time.
I made a comment, I'm sure I might have said it on the right show, there's a particular section of that film.
There's a car chase in the Marvel film, and it's fucking dreadful because it's all CGI.
Yeah, the rings or whatever it is.
And it is some of the worst CGI I've seen since they started kind of really doing CGI.
The Matrix has got better CGI.
It's a really big shame because actually I really enjoyed Shang-Chi, but that moment in it is just like, ah.
It's so jarring.
I just kind of shat on Matrix a bit there, because if you go back and watch some of those scenes with the Matrix where Neo's computerised, they're ropey.
The film's a great one there from ropey.
The first film's good, actually, because they did more with practical effects in there.
I think it's the third one.
The second and third one, oh Jesus, yeah, it's bad.
Now, I want you to compare that to, I know it's not a film that's going to have loads of CGI on it, but that James Bond film.
Now, there's a scene in it, I'm probably getting picked up by tapping the table, where there's a drone shot,
and the Aston Martin's going through some streets and skidding around all these streets,
and there's a really good bit where he drives through a plaza, and there's no cars or anything there.
Now, I saw the making of that bit.
That road is caked in tyre marks, all digitally removed for the James Bond film, and you would never have known.
Okay, Ford versus Ferrari, have you seen that?
No, I'd like to watch it though.
Or Le Mans 66, depending on the country that you're in.
Amazing films on Disney+.
Virtually none of the cars you see in that film exist.
But you wouldn't know?
No, I had no idea.
My dad was generally, how did they get that car?
That'd been worth millions.
How are they being allowed to race it and all that sort?
It didn't.
Just full stop, it exists on screen.
And you know what?
The great thing now, because whereas before doing side playing, so you'd have your camera on one of those tracks,
and it has to go for that track, now with drones, they can do the exact same path again and again.
Well, it's not even that.
It's virtual cameras now, isn't it?
If you think about it, how many things have you watched where actually it's just a virtual camera
and everything is CGI except for the main character and the virtual camera they're choosing.
It's incredible.
It's utterly, utterly incredible.
But what we're getting at today is we think the fan stuff is better.
Our last question from Adam from Lightly Used podcast.
Hello, Adam.
In Trek times, is Earth just mainly a vineyard and Starfleet HQ?
So that's the first bit.
And he's like, also a few months back when I was thinking of backstory stuff for his character,
he's talking about his character in the shit show.
And I messaged you about transporting waste from a holodeck.
I was thinking of other lazy slash work around using the transporter to do stuff.
Why is one writing transporter to do stuff that my character would do?
Is it possible to transport a shuttlecraft down to a planet instead of flying it?
Plus, it does seem quicker.
Hmm. Okay. Number one.
Oh, no, sorry, he's still going. Sorry, I thought it was my notes.
Can a whole starship be teleported? Good boy.
Reverse the polarity or invert the signal, something like that to take the whole ship.
And wouldn't this tech be more in-world plausible than a spore drive?
Well, first of all, let's start in the back then.
Everything is more plausible than a spore drive because it was a shit narrative for that entire series.
Mycelial network that may travel down.
So basically a multi-dimension.
Whoever came up with that story was just doing magic mushrooms at the time.
Yeah, they were doing the mushrooms.
So I'm going to do magic mushrooms and I can see across the universe.
This is a brilliant idea for a Star Trek series.
And then let's make the ship look really shit.
Right. Yeah. So there's so many different texts they could have done for this that would have been better than the spore drive.
The transporting of it.
Really you're just ending up with stargates at that point, aren't you?
Because that's what they're kind of doing, aren't they?
Okay, they're doing their kind of hyperspace sort of thing between two stargates.
But that's what you would need when you need lots of floating stargates around planets and you push the ship through it to do the transporter, I guess.
Be like an old fashioned scanner where you've got to drag it down slowly across it. Go in at impulse.
Okay, we're going in. No, no, I've increased the speed by mistake.
And you come out the other side and your ship's now 12 centimeters longer and slightly misshapen.
Yeah, it's weird because like in Talking While We're On Discovery, I complain how everyone just teleports everywhere.
They don't walk through doors. Doors are irrelevant now because they literally they'll have a conversation at the end of the scene.
They'll just disappear and reappear in the next scene. It's that jarring.
I say that bugs me.
And it was a bit less in the season four, whichever the most recent season was.
Let's just say it's season four.
The season before is where I really noticed it. Everyone was doing it.
Just walk. Just fucking walk. You're all going to be fat like in Wall-E.
I was just going to say Wall-E. This is exactly where we're heading, isn't it?
We're going to have a fat crew on a cruise ship basically because I just need to go to the toilet.
And I was thinking, oh, maybe they can't teleport a starship because of some over complicated things like the warp core.
And I was like, no, they teleport the warp core frequently when it gets blown up.
So that happens all the time. So what is it?
Is it the bigger the object, the more power it needs? And there isn't enough power?
Well, you'd need a teleporter. You'd need a transporter pad external to the ship.
You'd need a transporter the size of a ship. That's it, isn't it?
Because if you think about it in TNG Voyager, they've got the transporter pad, which you can stand on.
They then have cargo transporter pads, which are designed for the far bigger things.
So you'd need a transporter pad the size of a ship.
So you either have to always go away on the pad or come back to the pad, don't you?
No, because they've been down to the surface and they've been people off the surface. There's no teleporter pad there.
That's what I mean is, though. So why do you have to initiate the teleport on your ship from the pad?
You don't. They don't. They quite often in some of the TNG transport medical emergency.
They'll transport from straight where they are to the medical bay. They do it from.
So I think the law behind it is, let's have what's the best analogy you could use for this.
I could land a helicopter anywhere, technically. I could land it on a road. I could land it on a lawn. I could land it on a beach.
But you land it on the pad.
The best chance of having a 100 percent guaranteed safe landing is landing on that helipad. And I think that's the whole point of having a transporter pad on a ship is it's got all the power it needs to make sure it's going to get you.
No interference, specially designed room, particularly for teleporting.
It's there to specifically transport you. You could be transported from anywhere, but there's no guarantees.
And again, you see it in a lot of the episodes when they're down on the surface and they can't get a lock, they beam down some nice little light lamp post sort of things that they can put around them to increase the signal, in effect making a transporter pad.
So we're saying that you'd need to have a bigger pad than ship.
I don't see there's any reason you couldn't transport a shuttlecraft or even a ship, but you would need a huge amount of power and you'd need a huge amount, a huge bay of some sort for the ship to be transported.
I guess it's a range thing too.
Yeah, I mean, you could technically I guess say that the caretaker transported Voyager.
Hmm. Yeah, I guess so.
Did he do it with technology though? What did he do with his mind?
The idea was the caretaker was a computer, wasn't he? Really? The whole point of it was he was an alien race that was that entire weird space station was him, wasn't it?
I guess so, yeah.
So it had a huge amount of power and everything else, I guess. So I think that's what that kind of stemmed from. So I would say obviously it probably is possible in Star Trek, whether or not it would ever get done is another matter.
If anything is going to do it, Discovery will.
I think as well it is a range thing because I think we've got to get in teleporter range.
Well, yeah.
So I purposely said teleporter because I wanted to say transporter at that time.
So all the transporting you see is typically from the ship down to the planet, planet back to the ship or to a ship nearby.
Yeah.
Yes, you get the pretty, they're not bad films, but they are very loose and free with the Star Trek stuff, which is the modern films, and you get the whole warping transport at warp and really long distance transport that Scotty has come up with and that the
Federation took from him.
I feel like a more logical use for it would be when they're building the ship in a dock, if it needed to be in a different bay to do different things, it could teleport from one bay, the whole kind of chassis to another bay.
But even that I would say wouldn't it make building ships easier. I've built the left in the cell. I've now been that up into space, and your little robot craft come and pick it up and drag it off to the space dock to attach to whatever, and everything is beamed up from the surface
into space, you could be me into position. Yeah, exactly. You could just teleport the pieces straight out of the factory into position, connected.
Yeah, immediately, couldn't you? You wouldn't have to have the robot. So just suddenly this thing just starts getting beamed into construction. Yeah, potentially. So yeah, we've just made Star Trek better.
What else is right? Oh, yes, so the vineyards and the Starfleet HK. Absolutely. Oh, yeah, it's vineyards and it's the Federation base and restaurants because Cisco loves going to Earth just to go and eat in the restaurants.
Yeah, I think that's all that's there, isn't it really? To be fair, we're already going that way. You go to St. Albans, it's basically restaurants and bars. We just need some vineyards around there and the town hall can be the Federation and St. Albans is the first basis of the Federation.
Yeah, I guess so. I mean, it's farmland as well as vineyards, isn't it? Yeah. I think they do say there's a lot of farmland and aren't all the captains just seem to all have farmland, don't they? So maybe it's just a thing all the captains like to do is go back to Earth and just grow the grapes and farmland.
I've got to ask the question. I know that we're brought up in First Contact that there's the basically third World War goes on. But I'm guessing they must have something else that happens that majorly thins out the population because right now, not going into politics, but right now, every little bit of Greenbelt land is at risk of being built on.
Because we have a housing crisis, we need more housing. Yet, the planet in the future, everyone can have a vineyard that's huge, swathing open areas of land. What happened to that population? Was there a massive population crisis?
Well, we have the the war of the people who get changed. What's that one? The Khans? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have that. What's the eugenics? The eugenics war. So you have this says if there's a World War Three and there's eugenics war. But I think as well, because everyone's just now going off into space, there probably just isn't as many people.
Because everyone just happy living in high rise as well. Yeah, maybe they just happy living in high, happy being in space. And actually, there's less population on the planet. The planet's been saved. Yeah, possibly. You're right. Solved global warming and all the other problems that they've got. And yeah, there's just
Okay, here's a question for you. Space station or Earth, which would you choose to live on? I think I like the idea of a space station, but I still want to be on a planet. I think I want to be able to have the sky above me. Okay, you know, Earth or moon, we've colonized both, which would you like to live on?
There's a question. So, so both have got the sky above you. But one you're getting to look at every day respirator to know that it's been fully colonized. It's been turned into a planet. Oh, okay. And there's grass and stuff.
I don't know. Maybe it's still a bit gray. Because the moon dust is supposedly very, very sharp in creation, then they have to be very careful when they're on the moon because it would stick to them. Let's say there's a giant space station that's got grass inside it, it's been completely
Teflon within the little, the star bases across the moon. Most of the moon surface is just the moon surface. But in any of the bases that are on the moon, you've got fields and you've got cities on the moon that are all inside their little domes.
We've got a little Musk Martian dome on the moon. Oh no, Musk would have nothing to do with it. I wouldn't. Yeah, if Musk's involved, I'm staying on Earth. There'll be a long fucking cable running from Earth for the charging on the moon because there wasn't enough charging points.
Yeah, you want to supercharge your moon buggy, your Tesla moon buggy. Well, because I've lived on Earth my whole life, obviously it'd be great to go to the moon. I think if Star Trek was real, I would be on a ship. I'd want to explore. I would want to do that.
I could have seen myself going to Starfleet and choosing something and off I go. If it happened right now, I think I'd have to visit the moon, but I don't know if I'd want to stay there. Okay.
And I'd be upset if T went and lived on the moon.
Well, that's just the way I am. I'm not someone that's going to move country, you know. No, I know what you mean. So basically what we're saying to you, Adam, is that we don't think you'd be teleporting ships around the place, but there's definitely a lot of vineyards on Earth.
Definitely.
Command functions are offline.
Is it? Four questions from four people. Four answers. Well, eight answers if we do one each.
Some of them went on to tangent, some of them didn't.
So next episode we're going to be watching and talking about Picard, season one, episode one.
Oh.
Arguably, is season one the worst one?
Yes.
If we're going to compare all of them?
Season one of Picard was the biggest disappointment to me.
How many were there? Three or four?
Three.
Three was brilliant.
Three was amazing. Two started off brilliantly and then jumped the shark and went horribly wrong. And one was just rotten from the beginning.
There's a lot of things they just never answer, isn't it?
Well, to talk about the CGI.
Where does the ball cube go?
Talking about the CGI as well.
That first series when you see the Mars attack, when the androids attack Mars and destroy it or whichever whatever they do.
It looks like a late 90s, early 2000s CGI cutscene from a game. It was not good at all.
I'm struggling to really even remember it very well.
Yeah, I've blocked out a lot of it.
You've blocked it out. Bad memories.
At the beginning of this episode, you haven't heard it yet.
I don't think I've sent it to you.
There was a shit show short.
So thank you to you for reprising your role as Ensign Tom.
You're very welcome.
And thank you to SideQuest Mark for his portrayal of the very rude Cation ship counselor.
Indeed.
Who is based off the doctor from Lower Decks.
If anybody hasn't seen Lower Decks, just go and find out the doctor.
I don't remember the doctor's name.
Just go and watch Lower Decks.
You just go watch Lower Decks and then go onto Facebook and join the Save the Lower Decks Facebook group.
And then 100 percent.
So yeah, that was the start of this one.
There'll be one at the start of the next one as long as I get all the stuff in.
I'm not going to say anything about it.
And that's another start.
That will be another short one and then after that, it'll be a long one.
OK.
It's taking me a little while, but we'll get there.
So where can everyone find us, TJ?
No.
Please.
I don't know.
We are a Studio Channel 84 Network show.
You can find us on www.channel84.co.uk along with the Variety Show podcast, Lightly Used podcast and Who Takes the Socks Off podcast.
If you head over to that web page, that was www.channel84.co.uk, you will find a subsection called Untitled Trek Show.
And under there, you can find a contact form.
You can find all our social media, which is underscore Untitled Trek.
And that is on Twitter.
That is on Instagram, TikTok, threads, you name it.
It's probably there.
You can also find us on Facebook with the Channel 84 Variety Show.
It's an old name.
Just accept it.
We do everything there.
Otherwise, you can email us on rob at www.channel84.co.uk, TJ at www.channel84.co.uk, or if you want to speak to both of us at the same time, podcast at www.channel84.co.uk.
Rob, you have to learn that one day.
No, I'm not doing it.
We also have a Ko-Fi, don't we?
We do have a Ko-Fi, which you can find on www.channel84.co.uk if you wish to donate to us.
All money on that doesn't go towards our pockets.
It doesn't go towards our living.
Instead, what it does is it keeps the web page running.
It keeps us in microphones and recording equipment if we ever need to replace anything.
It keeps our email solution running, all of the back end running of the show.
Those kind of support it.
Thank you very much, TJ.
Thank you.
And we'll see you next time.
Yes, see you next time.
I don't know what the bonus will be next time.
The bonus?
Yeah, remember we're doing a bonus in a week's time.
Oh, gosh.
Yeah, we've got to think of that.
Love you.
Thank you for listening to the Channel 84 Untitled Trek Show.
This station is now shutting down and will be back in two weeks.
Excelsior.
This was a Studio Channel 84 Network Show.
To find more, head over to channel84.co.uk now.