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Hello.

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Hello.

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Has it started?

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It has started.

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Welcome to the No Rules podcast.

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This is the No Rules section of the Channel 84.

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Yeah, hang on.

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You know I'm completely lost already.

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Well, I mean more of Channel 84 as us too.

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The Varite Show and the Untitled Trek Show.

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Yeah, fair enough.

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I understand what you mean now.

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I think I'm even less scripted than Socks.

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I really don't do anything.

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I just like, we talk about what sci-fi we've watched and we talk about the episode or we

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answer questions.

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I'd argue I have the most scripted thing with the shit show.

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Yes.

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The most scripted.

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100% you do.

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So then I have to balance that off with the most unscripted and unplanned section, which

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is the main actual show.

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Number one on nearly all science fiction parts of Good Pods.

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Yeah, we get there don't we?

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Somehow we get there.

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Somehow.

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Someone's listening somewhere.

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Anyway, what sci-fi have you watched?

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I had to get in there first for once.

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What sci-fi have I watched?

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You know what?

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Not, well other than the episode is what we always say, oh, have I watched not really

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any sci-fi.

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We've started watching Supernatural.

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Does that really count?

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That's like...

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Yeah, fancy sci-fi.

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Let's put it this way.

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If Netflix or Prime or whatever your streaming provider of choice is, if they list it as

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sci-fi and fantasy, then it counts.

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Okay, well in that case, we've finished all of The Walking Dead.

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Okay.

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We've binge watched The Ones Who Lived, which is like the special one with Michonne and

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Rick.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And we've watched, run around and started watching Supernatural again.

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Carry on my wayward son.

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I looked over and said, you're watching Supernatural.

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We were playing Helldivers every day.

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And I said, you can't watch anymore now because I want to watch it too.

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Because we had never watched the last series.

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We had the Blu-ray and for whatever reason, we had not gone away.

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And it was like, it was our thing for such a long time.

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For us, Supernatural was bigger than Game of Thrones.

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It was such a big...

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Because I'd never heard of it when I met Randi.

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She'd been watching it and then she brought like, I think the first three seasons on DVD

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so we could watch them.

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And then we watched them all the way through.

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I could have my own podcast on Supernatural.

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We've watched so much of it, apart from the last series.

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So now we're literally...

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Let's have another spin on the untitled.

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The unfinished Supernatural series.

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And we started it again.

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So I've started from episode four because you'd already watched the first four episodes.

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So yeah, that's what we've been doing.

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Absolutely love Supernatural.

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The more I watch, they look so young in that first series.

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Really, really young.

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I mean, Jensen Echols and Jared, I don't want to crucify his surname because it's quite

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complicated.

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They look so young.

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I can't imagine how old they are at the time.

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Well, I was just going to say that I've got the iPad in front of me.

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So how long ago was the first series?

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I know it's not the Variety Show and we don't normally do that sort of stuff here.

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No, we do quizzes on this.

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We do quizzes on what we're talking about.

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Okay.

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So again, now we've got to work by my age.

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327 episodes.

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Yeah.

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I don't know what that translates into.

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I think 2000 and...

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15 series.

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2002.

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Not bad.

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2005.

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Oh, you know what?

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I did this all the time.

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That was a number in my head first.

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I went, no, that's too late.

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It's got to be earlier.

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So 19 years ago.

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Yeah.

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That's ridiculous, isn't it?

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19 years.

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And there you're right.

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You've got Jared Padalecki and Jensen Echols.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to go for those two.

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They're very attractive men.

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So let me have a quick look here.

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Jared does not change how he looks from then to now.

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Other than he looks a bit more baby face at the beginning.

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But if you see him now, he just looks like he doesn't age, like he's a vampire.

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And then Jensen has just got more attractive the older he's got.

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So Jensen was 27.

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He was 27?

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He was 27.

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He was born 1978.

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And if my math is right, 20 years plus two takes you to 2000.

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So that's 22 plus the five plus two there.

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So 27.

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So he's seven years older than me.

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Yeah.

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Let me have a look at what Jared was.

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Jared was born 1982.

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So two years younger, older than me, sorry.

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So 1982.

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So he would have been 23.

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Yeah.

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That looks right for him.

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Jensen looked like, to be fair, he looked like he was a bit younger than that.

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But yeah, they both, yeah, Jensen is just a really attractive man.

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I'm just looking at pictures of him actually at the moment.

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What else has he been in?

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He's in The Boys at the moment.

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Yeah, he's in The Boys at the moment.

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Oh, right.

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Okay.

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As a pretty bad ass character, yeah.

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Just swearing and stuff.

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What's his character in The Boys?

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I cannot remember the character.

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He's not the dad of...

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He's like their version of Captain America.

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Right.

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Okay.

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That makes sense.

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Okay.

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That's the picture I can see of him.

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And then obviously the dad from Supernatural is in The Walking Dead.

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Yeah.

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He's Negan in The Walking Dead.

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I think those two together.

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I think Jensen Eccles was in that terrible House of Wax film.

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He was, yes.

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That had the Hilton, maybe Paris Hilton was in it.

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Oh dear, yes.

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Paris Hilton.

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Not a classically trained actor.

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Specially trained at maybe swallowing, but certainly not doing acting.

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Yeah, fair enough.

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Thank you for listening to the last ever episode of the Untitled Track Show where we get cancelled.

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Oh, I doubt us saying something against Paris Hilton is going to get us cancelled.

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I think she's not quite so disliked nowadays.

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No, she went into being a DJ, didn't she?

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Is that what she's been doing?

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Yeah, I think she became a DJ and was doing DJ sort of stuff.

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Garage.

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A little bit of garage.

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Nice.

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And what have you been watching then?

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What have I been watching?

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I'm sorry.

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You actually have to ask a question on a podcast.

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Just looking at you.

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It's an audio format.

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You know, people can't see the look.

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I'm giving you the look again.

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That's the audio sound of the look.

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I've been watching the new Planet of the Apes films.

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I loved the original Planet of the Apes films.

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So the ones from the 60s and 70s.

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Well, how old is Caesar now?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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interests or different scenes,av competition through something that has replaced the same

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ancing

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business.

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the next one after that which is when they're trying to do...

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John Franco, whatever the name is, isn't that right?

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Yeah, James Franco. Yeah, James Franco. John Lithgow.

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John Franco.

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It's a lesser-known brother.

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John Lithgow is the one you might have been thinking of.

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No, it wasn't that. Just got James Franco's name wrong.

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Oh, fair enough.

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Thank you for trying to save me, but I can't be saved.

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Then you have the next one after that which is where they're trying to save the hydroelectric dam.

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Yeah, I think I've seen that one.

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And then I didn't realise...

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In fact, let me just quickly type them in here because...

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So the fourth one's just come out then?

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That's what I'm just looking at now. Two seconds.

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There's definitely one I haven't seen.

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So let's have a look. Yeah, you've got Rise to the Planet of the Apes.

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Definitely seen it, yeah.

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Which is... I'm pretty sure that's the first one of the reimagining of it anyway.

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Almost certain it is anyway.

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Yeah, John Lithgow...

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Jesus Christ. Do people really like listening to this shit? Get on with it, man.

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Yeah, where the city is starting to kind of be in ruin a little bit.

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They're trying to save the hydroelectric dam. So that was 2014.

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Nope, nope, nope. I can't take it. Butt piss.

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I love them for what they are. I love the original one,

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even though the Simpsons ripped the piss out of it with the Dr Zayas.

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I was just about to say...

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Dr Zayas, Dr Zayas.

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Dr Zayas, Dr Zayas.

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I love the one where the apes escape and they go back in time and end up in Earth.

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And they're talking.

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Nope, still going.

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So those those ape films, for me, they live in the same realm as the remakes of these King Kong

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and Godzilla's in that I have no idea which ones I've seen, which ones I haven't.

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And I'm completely lost. One of them was on the telly yesterday or today.

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And we're like, oh, let's watch it. And then we're like, which one is this?

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It was one of the King Kongs. I had a big picture of King Kong.

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And I was like, is this the first King Kong one or the one, the second one,

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or is it the one with Godzilla in it?

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King Kong, King Kong Skull Island.

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I don't know which ones I've seen. I know I've seen at least one of them.

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I couldn't tell you which one it was.

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You should probably watch... I'm quite fond of that series.

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I don't know why.

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The Godzilla films aren't wonderful, but they're not they're not terrible.

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They're a bit of fun.

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We enjoyed them. I remember enjoying them, watching them.

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But again, it's just one of those things where something must have happened.

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Because at the time we were going to cinema a lot.

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Yeah.

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And we had the Cineworld cars like you.

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So we were going a lot to the cinema, but it just must have just passed us by.

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Yeah, well, that's fair enough.

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These things happen, don't they?

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There's so many of them come out.

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I didn't even realize until I went and saw it that that Godzilla X Kong,

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the latest one that came out this year, was even a thing.

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It was just I was at the cinema going,

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well, what one should I watch on the Cineworld account?

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And it's like, oh, well, watch that then.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, you know what?

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I don't blame you for not knowing because they do just...

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To be fair, as I said, they're fun.

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Yeah.

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They're not memorable stories.

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Yeah.

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They aren't such good, wonderful stories that you're going to go,

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I remember every single part of that.

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They do just merge into one.

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I know they are meant to be a continuing story,

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but there's nothing that special about them that's going to make you go,

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yeah, that really stands out.

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So I'm going to remember it.

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So I don't blame you for not remembering it really.

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Unlike Star Trek Prology.

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Enter authorization code.

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I'm glad you noticed that straight away.

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We didn't get too far.

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Just as we jinxing ourselves, we were talking about,

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never losing recording.

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Yeah, we've never lost any...

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I knew you said footage.

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It's not footage.

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Any audio from a show, except for the Lower Decks episode where we went to London.

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And that wasn't our fault.

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That wasn't us not pressing record.

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That was a firmware issue with the radio mics we were using at that time.

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So that was completely that fault.

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There was nothing we could have done about that.

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There was nothing we did wrong.

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But that, yes, would have been the first time we purposely...

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Well, not purposely, but our fault had lost footage then.

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And no audio.

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Footage.

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Yeah, so we set you the homework of watching...

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Had you ever seen Star Trek Prodigy before?

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I'd started the first couple of episodes in the background like I normally do

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when I was working and watching TV at the same time.

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So I'd kind of seen parts of it as I'd worked,

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but not paid 100% attention to it.

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So I'm going to say no, I hadn't, because I think that's fair,

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because I hadn't put any attention towards it.

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So it hadn't been given a fair viewing.

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What was your knowledge of it prior to this?

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Prior to it, I'd only heard about it on Twitter and the social

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and then the trailers that came out for it.

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And I kind of got the idea that people were saying,

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this is a way to introduce the new generation of kids to Star Trek.

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That's what it came across as, especially as Nickelodeon

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were involved in making that first series.

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So yeah, for me, it wasn't...

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I'm not going to watch it because it's a kids show.

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You know us, we like watching kids shows,

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especially when they're decent.

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And yeah, it looked good.

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So I thought I will give it a chance at some point.

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Yeah.

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How about yourself? When had you come across it for the first time?

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First time I ever heard about it was you mentioning it on the podcast.

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Yeah.

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And you pretty much said something similar to that.

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And then we went to the Lower Decks thing and they had a little bit about it then.

321
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That was the first time I'd ever seen it.

322
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Oh, of course they did. Yes, you're right.

323
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They did.

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Because that was one of the places they announced

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they were going to do a second series of it.

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Or no, it was in the...

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They had the bit about...

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We don't know where we were.

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We don't know where we're going at the moment, didn't they?

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They said the future is...

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And then it showed like...

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It showed that was in there and it made a big implication

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there was going to be another series of Prodigy, but not from Paramount.

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But they'd cancelled it at that point.

335
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They then cancelled it.

336
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It was actually in Netflix.

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So maybe that was just their kind of thing of being like,

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oh, you know, this will come.

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Because I don't know, the people behind us were really excited,

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they thought that this could mean another series of Prodigy.

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100%.

342
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In fact, yeah, you know what?

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I'm pretty sure it had been cancelled at that point

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because there was the murmurings of, well, you've cancelled it, blah, blah, blah.

345
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But then there was the excitement that came on screen because you're right.

346
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People were like, does this mean it's been given a second chance?

347
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This is brilliant news.

348
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Well, season one isn't even on their app.

349
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Oh no, it's all on Netflix.

350
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It's all on Netflix because I went straight to Paramount Plus to watch it.

351
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See, I'm glad I didn't because oops, I cancelled Paramount Plus.

352
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How it's not going to help you in this Star Trek podcast.

353
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It will be fine.

354
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I've got ways around it.

355
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But the point is, there's nothing on Paramount Plus at the moment.

356
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I just didn't, I can't warrant that six or seven quid it is a month for,

357
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I think all I was doing is turning it on once a month, if that.

358
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For me to tell you how we have Paramount Plus, it's going to open me up to some more.

359
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Yeah, let's not go down that route.

360
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So more of you telling me off.

361
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Come on, Le Pack Boy.

362
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Right, so the season one, episode one of Prodigy.

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Accessing library computer data.

364
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Lost and found part one, as we found out.

365
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Yeah, we didn't realise it was a two-parter.

366
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Yeah, we didn't.

367
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And I purposely didn't watch the second part knowing that I'd only said to watch the first episode.

368
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Exactly, so we've not watched the second part.

369
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We've only watched part one, which takes us all the way up, spoilers, to them discovering

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the Proto Star.

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Is that what the...

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That's the name of the ship, yeah.

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Right, it looked like Voyager.

374
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I was on my comment on it was it looks a lot like a Voyager.

375
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Yeah, it's...

376
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Same class of ship, surely.

377
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It's, yeah, it looks a similar class.

378
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I would say, is it like the, you know, the Enterprise E.

379
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Is it the Enterprise E version of Voyager?

380
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So the next generation of Voyager.

381
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Yes, the Voyager E.

382
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See, oh yeah, the Voyager B, I guess it would be, wouldn't it?

383
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It'd be called the Voyaged.

384
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Well, for all we know, it's a completely different class of ship because we haven't seen it fly yet.

385
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Yeah, it'd be called the Bon Voyage.

386
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That's just... no.

387
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Stop recording, no.

388
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Right, let's talk about the episode as it plays out.

389
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It has a pretty good intro.

390
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Yeah, the intro is really good.

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I would say, and this isn't going to be the first time you hear me say this,

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it rings music-wise and sound-wise more about a more like the Kelvin timeline of Star Trek.

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And by that, I mean the Chris Pine era of Star Trek movies that we've had in the past.

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Again, they're old, 20 years now.

395
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So that's what it sounded like.

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It didn't sound like a classic TNG or Voyager or Deep Space Nine.

397
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It sounded far more modern.

398
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Well, it was quite short because the first...

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Because I have only seen this one.

400
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I don't know if, like we did say with Orville, how that first episode didn't have a Star Trek intro.

401
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It was the second episode of Orville that had the Star Trek intro.

402
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It was quite short, had the great music, but then it kind of quickly transitioned into the show.

403
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Yes.

404
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The gems.

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So that's what I really liked about it.

406
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It was kind of doing a Star Trek intro with the stars and having the badge come up.

407
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And then suddenly it all turned into these yellow gemstones and off it goes and it's into the mines.

408
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Yeah, you know what, actually, it kind of felt a bit like some of the classic Star Trek films as well,

409
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because it kind of had that...

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Often, if you looked at some of the classic Star Trek films, ignoring some of the ones like...

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Well, the motion picture, which is near, I think it's something like six or seven minutes of the intro

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is just black screen with a little bit of music, some stars and names.

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Yeah.

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And that's it.

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So ignoring that, but if you look at a couple of the later ones, it does that.

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It does the music, obviously a little bit longer than they did for this, but yeah,

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then it kind of disappears into and merges into the beginning of the film.

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Yeah. I mentioned it again later, but like in Star Wars, how you have the kind of the text scroll

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and then the cameras pans down into some action. That's kind of how it felt.

420
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Yeah, there wasn't text, but it kind of felt like that.

421
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And I would say a lot of this could easily have been a Star Wars show.

422
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I am so glad you said that, because I was literally just going to preface what I was going to say is,

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this may upset a lot of Trekkies, it may upset the Save Lower Decks people, but oh my God.

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The creators of this, whether you think this is right or wrong,

425
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did this absolutely right by the kids of our generation.

426
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So the kids of, not the kids of our generation, sorry, the kids of this generation.

427
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So kids of this generation have grown up with Disney Star Wars, which let's face it,

428
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and if you're a Star Wars fan, I make no apologies for this.

429
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The first three, the original three films are fine. Yeah, they're fine.

430
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They are bloody boring.

431
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They're not the Phantom Menace.

432
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And they are so slow in everything. It's just like you're watching the lightsaber play and it's like,

433
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I could have stabbed you 14 times by the time you did that swing, Luke. What the hell?

434
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Yet the ones that we get now, they're bouncing all over the way, even like, yeah, from episode

435
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one onwards, they're bouncing all over the place. And they've kind of taken that energy

436
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and put it straight into Prodigy and everything else kind of feels very Star Wars-ish as well.

437
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So you've got, what's his name? I'm just having a quick look here because of Dreadnock.

438
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Yep.

439
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Feels straight, what's the name of the robot one in?

440
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General Grievous.

441
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Feels very Grievous, doesn't he?

442
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Yeah.

443
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But yet the energy feels Star Wars.

444
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It felt like they're on a Sith base.

445
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Yeah, the whole thing, it felt like Star Wars, but it's Star Trek.

446
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Yeah. The little watches, the little drone things.

447
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The watches, yeah.

448
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Battle droids.

449
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Yeah.

450
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Battle droids and the little rolly ones as well, especially when one of them gets blasted away

451
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and you just go, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

452
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Stiddy listens and he's going to correct me. Are they called droideka?

453
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Stiddy, you can message me. You're allowed to correct me.

454
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I think so, yeah. But yeah, it just kind of feels like they went, look, we know Star Wars

455
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is more popular than Star Trek. We know Star Trek, if you look at the original series,

456
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TNG, Voyager, D space nine, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

457
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they're not exactly action-packed series. And yes, we get action in those. So the Borg

458
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fights in TNG, Deep Space Nine, we get these, an amazing kind of war between the Federation,

459
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the Bajorans and another one that you will come across. I'm not going to ruin that for you.

460
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Voyager against all the races they come across, all the Borg stuff in that. So we get really good

461
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action in them, but a lot of the time we get slower, fake science sort of series, don't we?

462
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It's a slower thing. So for them to go, kids are not going to be interested in that,

463
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but we want them to know Star Trek. Let's do a little bit. Star Wars was a brave move,

464
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but that's what it feels like they've done. They've gone, let's take the good bits from Star Wars,

465
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but mix it with Star Trek. Would you say that using just the term science fiction, Star Wars,

466
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Star Wars leans more into the fiction access aspect of that phrase, where Star Trek leans more into

467
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the science aspect of it. Whilst they're both science fiction, there's a much more heavy basis

468
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on making sure you get trekked in Star Trek. 100%. 100%. You've got Star Trek, which is like

469
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trekking the trek, teching the tech sort of stuff. So it feels, I guess you could say it feels more

470
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believable as to it could happen. If you were to be told, right, I'm going to give you these two

471
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things. You've got Star Wars in there, if you've got Star Trek in there, I want you to watch Star

472
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Trek, I want you to watch both of them and then tell us if we would tell you one of these things

473
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could happen, which do you think it would be? I would say Star Trek is the one you'd go,

474
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well, yeah, I can see that being a real life progression for the human race. And if we ever

475
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came across Ains, where as Star Wars is, you're right, it's 100% more fiction. It is, I can't see

476
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that. Maybe that's just me. Maybe that's me and my whole, not anti-religion, but I'm not religious

477
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therefore the whole idea of having some little sperm things that fly around in you and give you

478
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magical Jedi powers. Yes, Steddy, you can also correct Rob on that one for me. Correct me on

479
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you calling, calling mechlorians. What did you call them? Little sperm things. There you go.

480
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Little clorians. Yeah, it's fine. I think that was a bit of a fuck up for the Phantom Menace.

481
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I'll allow that to be the one blemish on the Phantom Menace's otherwise perfect story.

482
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I would also say, maybe last thing to say about it, I'd say if we're going to put it in gaming

483
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terms, Star Wars is, quote unquote, arcadey. Yes. Is what I would say. Yeah. Star Wars is the game

484
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that you're going to get feedback that you enjoy straight away. Star Trek, you've got to be in it

485
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for the slog. It's going to be the game and it's going to be, oh for fuck's sake, it's a not

486
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skippable 10 minute cut scene at the beginning. Do I want to be doing this? But if you hold on

487
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and you get through it, it's so worth it. It's really rewarding. Whereas Star Wars just, I mean,

488
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blows its lows at the beginning and you've got what you've got. Yeah, 10 minutes talking,

489
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,360
you can't pause it. You need to piss. Yeah. And then you go for a piss, you come back and you're

490
00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:06,800
dead. And it's like, oh no. But again, it's not as bad as something like Battlestar Galactica,

491
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:13,120
which is the 10 minute cut scene followed by, you've now got to learn all the moves and you

492
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:18,640
can't skip that either. So you can't skip the tutorial. That's the word I couldn't think of.

493
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:25,200
So yeah, you've now got the cut scene and the tutorial to do. Okay, right. I know I said lots

494
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:31,200
of tangents, but this one's a long one. Oh no, but you're right. Prodigy has felt more

495
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,360
Star Wars than Star Trek in this first episode. And I'm not saying that's a negative thing. As

496
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:42,160
much as I'm not a huge fan of Star Wars, it's made me pay attention to it. And I reckon it's

497
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,880
probably made any kid that's watched it pay attention to it more. Because if that had just

498
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:53,440
done properly Star Trek, you would not have got half the action in that. And I don't think it

499
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,480
would have been as engrossing. And I love Star Trek, but I'm happy to admit that. Yeah, it's

500
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,040
definitely, it was not a negative to say it was like Star Wars at all. It's just a different way

501
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:08,080
of doing Star Trek and I enjoyed it. Yeah, exactly. It's almost the Lower Decks approach.

502
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:13,920
They went with fun and rather than it being obviously adult orientated this time, they went

503
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:20,080
fun and action because we know that's what kids want. Yep. Anyway, back to the episode then.

504
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:26,640
Sorry, the intro is finished. Oh God. So the first thing that is, it looks brilliant. The

505
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:35,200
art style is great. It does. They didn't do a random, horrible, jagged edge sort of art style.

506
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:42,960
They actually made it look really modern, but smooth and nice. It's like Pixar-esque

507
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,080
like quality. Yeah, you're right. Really good quality. And it's a really good scene as well.

508
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:56,080
He's running. Can you hear that? We've got a little bit of a, we're having a little technical

509
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:02,240
issue. These two are so unprofessional. Let me just skip ahead for you. One moment please.

510
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Where were we? He's running away. Right. So yes, the animation style. We're still in the first five

511
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:20,080
seconds of the show. The animation style we really like. It's not too obnoxious, but it's also not

512
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:30,320
too childlike and it's not too completely out of the ordinary. It's a really nice mix of semi-realistic

513
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:36,800
with cartoon overtones. Yeah. And I was in it straight away. If I'm going to be watching

514
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:42,560
something CGI, I want it to look nice. Yes. So I was happy straight away. Love the intro,

515
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:50,880
running through. He's like a prisoner from what he can get at this point. Trying to plot his escape,

516
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:58,320
isn't he? He sees an exit above him and there's this big mine cart full of this weird coloured

517
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,440
gems getting pulled up. He's counting the amount of time it takes for that to get up and past him.

518
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,080
Yes. And he sees this kind of figure in the background, which looks like if anyone's played

519
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,720
Portal 2, it looks like one of the robots from Portal 2. Not the skinny tall one, the short fat

520
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,960
round one. Yeah. Okay. I get that. I hadn't thought about that. I was going for Clap Trap.

521
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:24,240
Well, Clap Trap is more like a square. Yeah. Kind of a square with a wheel. Yeah, fair enough. But

522
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,880
you get the idea. Small little robot. Small little droid of some sort. Could be any droid that you

523
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,760
see in any other Star Wars show that you might be watching. R2-D2. Maybe he's R2-D2. A mixture of

524
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:40,640
R2-D2 and C3PO. If R2-D2 had the arms and legs of C3PO, that's the robot. And wasn't as fucking

525
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:50,160
annoying as C3PO. Yeah, and wasn't so annoying. Yeah. So, and then he starts kind of running

526
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:56,720
through the... And I can, no, sorry, I've gone away for it. He's not running away yet. He's plotting.

527
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:02,240
He sees the robot and then he gets confronted by General Grievous. Yeah. So he, we'll go by the

528
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,760
actual name Dreadnock. So he gets... But I didn't write those down. So I'm going to do Star Wars

529
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,840
acronyms for the whole way through. That's fine. I've got IMDB. You've got your notes. We'll meet

530
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,480
in the middle. But yeah, Dreadnock confronts him. What do you know about Prisoner Zero?

531
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,360
Yeah. And so we've got to assume that that's Prisoner Zero. Fugitive Zero. Fugitive Zero.

532
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:28,560
Sorry. Yeah. And then he gets a bit more upset. The dark side starts to take hold of him a bit more.

533
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:35,600
And he has to be saved. So Fugitive Zero starts fiddling with the control panels and blows something

534
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,680
up. Yeah. And in that kind of mess, he then... Oh, that's a yeah. Dreadnock basically converts

535
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,000
an arm to something that looks like a red hot poker. A lightsaber. He's going to... Yeah. It's

536
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:52,480
a lightsaber, isn't it? Let's face it. And he's about to kind of kill our main character, Dau.

537
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,480
Yeah. So yeah, Prisoner Zero rips out a power conduit because we're talking Star Trek finally.

538
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:04,480
And the power goes out. Lots of explosions. Yes. And then whilst doing that, somehow Fugitive Zero

539
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:10,240
managed to undo the security coupling thing. Well, I think that was because the power went out.

540
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,320
Oh, I thought it was only his that it happened to. Oh, possibly then. Oh, okay. No, fair enough.

541
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,600
That was the impression I got. Because I didn't see him. He asked something and they go, oh,

542
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,600
clink. Yeah, true. Otherwise everyone would have been trying to escape. My ASBO bracelets.

543
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:27,440
I've been undone. Welcome to Planet ASBO. Planet ASBO. And now he's running away,

544
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,840
getting chased by the Watchers. And it's a really good chase scene. It's a great chase scene.

545
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,040
Jumping around. It's so action filled. But they keep it...

546
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:42,080
Well, like the animation style, it's not too over the top, but they fit so much into it. And it looks

547
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,120
so nice. It's so fluid. And it goes on for a while. It does. A good few minutes of him running

548
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,880
through. And he's like talking to himself as you go through. Because obviously he has to,

549
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,120
because at the point none of us know anything that's going on. So he's kind of... Yeah.

550
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:01,040
Just talking to himself to kind of move the plot along while he's running along. And he kind of

551
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,760
slides down this cool slide and finds a vehicle that he nicks off a guy who's trying to repair it.

552
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,640
Well, that's it. So yeah, he tries to run one way and it just caves in. He's like,

553
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,560
yeah, no, not that way. And then he runs off. Yeah, everything keeps going wrong. And he

554
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,080
eventually falls down, doesn't he? And he comes across a spaceship.

555
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,640
Yep. And then he's in this... Well, it's kind of like a little hover car thing, isn't it?

556
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,320
Yeah. It's the... A little wagon.

557
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,440
Star Trek, Star Wars equivalent of a space dump truck.

558
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,160
Or a space for transit.

559
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,880
Yeah. It's a transit. It's the transit that hasn't been looked after. You know, rust over the real

560
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,280
arches. Engine's got about 90,000 on it. It's never had the oil changed.

561
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,960
Yeah. He's going down this kind of... Now we're in the... What is it?

562
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,280
The...

563
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,640
Speeds up for speed bumps.

564
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:52,640
Now he's... He's now going down a long corridor looking for the ventilation shaft of the

565
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,320
mining planet. Oh no, sorry. That's the Death Star. Sorry. So he's going down this long

566
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,840
corridor, avoiding stuff like rocks and gems and things that are all falling down,

567
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,560
and gets this factory bit where they're, I guess, crushing the rocks and stuff that they're mining.

568
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:15,360
He sees on the map, it says something like, oh, stone extraction or something extraction.

569
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,320
So he thinks, well, that sounds good. That must be going up. So he goes up there and then he's

570
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,760
like, this was a bad idea because everything is just kind of crushing and pulverising as he's

571
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,480
flying through it.

572
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,000
Yeah. And there's like this big ramp. I didn't really get this bit. There's like a big ramp.

573
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,680
I guess it seems like it's catching the rocks and the rocks are falling down the ramp.

574
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,880
And he must think, if I go up this ramp enough, I might be able to get the air to get out of the...

575
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,880
out of whatever this thing that he's in. Well, spoilers, he doesn't make it.

576
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:47,760
Doesn't quite get there, falls down to earth and fade to black. Isn't it?

577
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,480
Yeah.

578
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,840
Okay. Then we get the logo.

579
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,200
Then we finally get the name of the show, Prodigy.

580
00:31:53,200 --> 00:32:00,640
Prodigy. Yeah. Next is we... This is where I really would be like, now we're in Star Wars

581
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,400
territory because now we're with the baddies.

582
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:02,880
Yes.

583
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:09,200
Now we're going to... And then, yeah, we've got the emperor or...

584
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,080
Oh, actually, no.

585
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,600
Ness Grievous is not the emperor.

586
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,600
No, the one that's floating. So are we at that point yet?

587
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:15,840
I can't...

588
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,680
No, you see him, you see like his mouth, a side view of his mouth.

589
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,440
And I instantly knew who the actor was playing that guy's voice.

590
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,560
You know before Luke it up?

591
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,400
I don't.

592
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,120
John Noble.

593
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,360
It is John Noble playing the diviner.

594
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,040
You cannot not know that dude's voice when he starts speaking.

595
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,800
Or you'll be like, what's that guy from? What's that guy from?

596
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,840
But can I just point out again, very Star Wars-esque.

597
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,120
When you finally see the diviner on the outside, he's basically floating in a giant chamber.

598
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:45,440
Yeah.

599
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,120
As I... So this is Darth Vader.

600
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,000
Yeah.

601
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:54,560
Just in his little cocoon thing that you see them screwing his lid back on in that part of Star

602
00:32:54,560 --> 00:33:00,640
Wars. And it's just kind of floaty kind of Emperor hologram or Darth Vader-esque.

603
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,920
That's what this is again.

604
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,840
One thing we didn't know is that no one can speak his language.

605
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,520
Plus we haven't mentioned that because they don't have the universal translators on the planet.

606
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:07,760
Yes.

607
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,880
So they turned it off.

608
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:19,680
So I can't remember if it happens then or it happens after. They say all of the universal

609
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,720
translators have been removed from the planet so no one can talk to each other.

610
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,000
Therefore you can't plot an escape.

611
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,520
Very clever actually idea to have included that. If you can't talk to the person next to you,

612
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,720
you're not going to be able to escape. You're going to just have to work.

613
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,680
Yeah. And that's where this lady baddie comes into play because she can speak

614
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,280
loads and loads of different languages.

615
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,640
And she's the daughter of the diviner. But yes, she can speak millions of languages.

616
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,920
She's Princess Leia. In this scenario, the Star Wars scenario,

617
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,160
she's Princess Leia because she's Darth Vader's daughter.

618
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,680
Yeah, basically.

619
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,200
Spoilers. Really wouldn't have seen that.

620
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Spoilers.

621
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,480
Star Wars.

622
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,360
We've got to start doing the Star Wars this day now. I think they've got the idea.

623
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,200
They've taken a lot from Star Wars to make this work.

624
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,480
At least in this one episode.

625
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,120
And they've got some Bouncy Hunter there. So it kind of looks like

626
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,040
they're populating this prison planet with bounties.

627
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:21,120
Yeah. So they'd got the... Oh, bloody hell. What was his race? Because it was a race from Voyager.

628
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,520
Yeah. I can't remember what it was. I didn't write it down for once. I normally write those

629
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,880
bits down. Oh, that's really annoyed me now. So I'm going to have to very, very quickly look it up.

630
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,800
But yeah, you've got the race that is from Voyager, who basically brings...

631
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,320
Little cat.

632
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:40,640
Prisoners to their planet to work in the mine in exchange for whatever it is.

633
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,680
One can assume Latin, I suppose. Or whatever currency they're using around here.

634
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,000
But he's brought a little cat. A little cat boy or girl.

635
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Little cat creature. Yeah. Which was very sweet, to be fair.

636
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:55,280
Kazon.

637
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,080
Kazon. That's it.

638
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,840
That was it. It was the Kazon Trader.

639
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,760
Interesting. It is also the voice for rock.

640
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:05,280
Oh, the...

641
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:07,200
The rock creature.

642
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:13,360
The rock creature. Yeah. Yeah. So then the lady tells him off for bringing a little kid.

643
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,720
She then gets told off by General Grievous for saying, you don't know what your dad wants.

644
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:19,040
Yeah.

645
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,400
Although we shouldn't say dad yet. At this point, you don't know that the...

646
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,680
You don't know what he wants. Yeah, basically.

647
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:33,280
But then that's where they then walk inside and we do hear the dad and her talking for a little bit

648
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,640
about what he needs from this kid.

649
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:44,880
Yeah. So we get the idea that there's something else going on, especially because when she leaves,

650
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:50,400
Dreadnock turns back up and he's like, I don't care what I've just told her. If she fails,

651
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,680
just get the job done.

652
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,000
Yeah.

653
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,160
So we know that there's something else going on that he's not telling her,

654
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,920
but that's what you get the feeling of anyway.

655
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:07,680
Yeah. And then we're back in the prison with the main character. You're really good at

656
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,200
remembering all these names. I didn't write any of them down.

657
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,480
I've got IMDB in front of me.

658
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Yeah, I didn't write any of them down.

659
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,960
So Dahl's in jail or he's in the brig or whatever you want to call it on this prison planet.

660
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,840
And he's talking to a random voice who we don't know who it is. He doesn't know who it is,

661
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,080
but just as they're getting into the conversation, the guards turn up and they pull him out,

662
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,760
don't they? And he goes along and he looks into the prison cell next to him and there's no one

663
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:38,800
there. So we can then say for you, well, is that Zero? Is that fugitive Zero that we're hearing

664
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:44,320
about? And that's what he's kind of clocked onto. Is that the case? And they take him up to go and

665
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,280
see the daughter again. And honestly, I can't remember her name.

666
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,480
I think her name was Gwen.

667
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,000
Yes, Gwen. You know, that typical alien name that everyone has.

668
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Yeah, I did write that one down.

669
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,840
I mean, we've got Dahl, the main character. We've got Rock Tuck, which is, I can't stop

670
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,920
doing things as Klingon. Rock Tuck, which is the spiky rock. You've got Murph, who is the little

671
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,680
slimy thing. You've got Zero, the ball of energy, who's got a robot. You've got Jancom Pog, which

672
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,640
is the Telerian, did he say he was? And then you've got Gwen.

673
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,920
You know what it's like? So the new game of Thrones, the House of Dragons has got,

674
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:25,440
you know how all the names in it are really cool names, like the Targaryens, and it's going on.

675
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,760
And it really got whiplash when I heard it, because there's a guy in it called Alan.

676
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,280
Oh my God.

677
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,480
What? Anyone who watches it would know what I'm

678
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,360
talking about. They're just going, talking, talking, and then suddenly he just says Alan.

679
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,560
And I was like, what? The dude's called Alan?

680
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,000
Oh, that's just bloody stupid.

681
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,920
It's hilarious. He's a fine character, he's fine enough. Just the name Alan really knocked me back.

682
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,420
Geez.

683
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,760
Yeah. So, oh, he asks to eat some food on her desk. What's the food, TJ?

684
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,960
Oh, I don't know. I wasn't paying that much attention.

685
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,400
Honey lychee's.

686
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,360
Oh, it's honey lychee's. Oh, so they've obviously got human food then.

687
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,720
Honey lychee's, yeah.

688
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,040
Does he ask? I thought he just scoffed his face.

689
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,440
Specifically if he can have the honey lychee's.

690
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,000
Oh, okay.

691
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,720
And then she kind of, I don't know if she like pushes them to him or does a kind of thing and

692
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:21,440
the computer moves it over. I didn't really tell. I don't want to do another Star Wars thing.

693
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,960
She forced moved it.

694
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,520
But it did seem like it just moved.

695
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:26,560
Yeah.

696
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,040
I might have just missed her touch it, but it felt like it just moved.

697
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,360
Yeah. You kind of get the gist of though, get the idea of though is that she is,

698
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,040
maybe everyone doesn't like her because obviously they're keeping them all prisoners.

699
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,280
Yeah.

700
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:45,200
But you get the idea that she's not really that interested in them being prisoners.

701
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,600
She wants to be fair. She wants to be

702
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,000
nice while keeping them prisoners.

703
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,120
These two know each other.

704
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,760
Yeah. There is a history of some sort.

705
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,440
He clearly must get in some kind of trouble all the time.

706
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,720
Well, she says, doesn't she? You're always trying to escape

707
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:04,960
when you're going to learn that you can't.

708
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:05,360
Yeah.

709
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,360
So you get the idea. This isn't the first time this has all happened.

710
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,320
Yeah, exactly.

711
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,640
And then he gets, she kind of convinces him, well kind of makes him really,

712
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,320
I guess they want him to go undercover to capture.

713
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,360
First of all, she sends him away, doesn't she?

714
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,680
She gets the watchers to come and say, no, take them away.

715
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,480
You don't know anything about me, the fugitive zero.

716
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,680
So nope, see you later. Off you go. You can go and die now.

717
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,240
I'll let Dreadnought deal with you instead.

718
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:36,720
Yeah.

719
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,640
And then he finally says, no, no, no, I have spoken to them.

720
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,200
They were in my head in this prison cell next to me.

721
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,960
And yeah, she then says, fine. We think he's over here.

722
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,160
That's where you're going. And he's like, but I'm tiny.

723
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,240
I'm going to die there. I'm going to get crushed to death.

724
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:53,280
Deep core mining.

725
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,440
Yeah. You get anywhere else, you find a way basically.

726
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,640
Yeah. So basically send him to the lowest part of the...

727
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,040
Yeah. The deepest mining.

728
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,560
Yeah. Mining with all the dwarves down in there looking for Mithril.

729
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,520
Hi-ho, hi-ho. It's off to mine we go.

730
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,000
In the, was it the Mines of Moria? Have you seen,

731
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,160
you won't have seen the Lord of the Rings series, will you?

732
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:16,720
No.

733
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:20,960
And they've got like a whole section of the mines, which is like closed off the people,

734
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,360
because it's where all the Mithril is. But it's really unstable and too many of them died in there.

735
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,520
So the King's like blocked it off.

736
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,020
Okay.

737
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:35,040
Spoilers. I might cut that one in case people do actually want to watch that.

738
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,600
Yeah. But he goes down the elevator and he watches a great little video.

739
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,600
Don't they have like a safety video?

740
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,400
Oh, that was so beautiful. That was just the right amount of comic relief you needed,

741
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,640
because we hadn't had much up to that point. We'd had a couple of the phases with him escaping.

742
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Just him is the comic relief really, isn't it? So far.

743
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:02,080
And then all of a sudden, you've got these perfect, like, I get it, I get it. Ticks, not crosses.

744
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,760
Yeah. There's a lot of crosses here.

745
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,920
If you do this, it has to be a big X. Like, and it's all like really funny little cartoon

746
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,080
things as well. Like if you've ever been on a ride at Disney or whatever, and they play those

747
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:17,760
little videos about getting into the rides and stuff, it was kind of like that.

748
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Yeah. And it just suddenly even dawned on me now, because we're talking about it.

749
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,280
It makes absolute sense that they've done it like that, because no one knows a language.

750
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,640
No one's got one specific language. So you have to do it like that. And it is how everyone does

751
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:37,120
it, don't they? They do it with funny little cartoons because it draws your attention to it.

752
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,320
It makes you remember it.

753
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,360
Yeah. And it comes back a bit later, this video, in a really funny way.

754
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,040
I didn't see it.

755
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,960
Okay. Well, I'll tell you when you get there. So it's doing the crosses and the ticks,

756
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:55,040
and it's showing how they pair you up by attaching your two ankles together by a long cord.

757
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:55,360
Yes.

758
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,560
And it was like two ticks, because you're nice, happy, stuck together. And it's like,

759
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,120
if one person goes the other way and one person goes the other way, then it goes like two Xs.

760
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:08,000
That's the gist of the thing, getting crushed by rocks, big X. It's quite funny.

761
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:14,880
Yes. And he gets stuck with this giant, or the biggest rock, red rock monster out of all,

762
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:21,680
like a big golem made of red, like the thing in Fantastic Four.

763
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,280
Just a little bit more pointy.

764
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,960
A bit more pointy and red.

765
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,520
Yeah. I think they're called the Bricker or Bricker.

766
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,120
And the rock, I wrote Red Rock Man Gets Annoyed.

767
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,480
It roars at him, a kind of guttural, loud roar.

768
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,600
Yeah, to get him to walk along with them. And then they're mining, and he's not really mining.

769
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,000
He's like drawing on the floor to try and explain to the rock monster how he wants to escape.

770
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,360
Yeah, look, I need to do this, so can you please do this with me? And he's just more

771
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,280
interested in actually just working.

772
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,960
Yeah. And he draws this little spaceship on the floor with a picture of his face above it.

773
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,240
And the rock monster is like, and then goes, and you too, and then draws their face next to it.

774
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,760
Which I thought, again, he's the comic relief, and he's genuinely quite funny as well.

775
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,480
Because at this point, nothing else is funny. He is the funny thing. Everything around him is

776
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,440
actually a bit serious, other than the little comedy bit on the lift.

777
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:25,440
And this is what I'm tying, why I said I'd bring it up later. I tie it more into the Kelvin

778
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:32,560
timeline of Star Trek, because he feels exactly like how Chris Pine portrays Kirk in the modern

779
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:40,240
films. Not taking things seriously, comic relief, doing things because he's going headfirst into

780
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,760
it, rather than standing back and thinking about it. And it just felt very much like

781
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,800
a story arc taken from that, doesn't it?

782
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,040
Like a Mr. Bean-esque character.

783
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:49,760
Almost, yeah.

784
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:55,040
Yeah. And what's the... People will have a go at me for not remembering his name.

785
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,280
You know that old TV show where you've got that guy and he gets stuck on those roller skates,

786
00:43:59,280 --> 00:43:59,760
and he's roller skating.

787
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Oh, Frank Spencer, or some others do have him, as the show was called.

788
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,680
That is very, very much like that. He could never get hurt, because he's just so clumsy,

789
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,640
and just messing everything up. The carnage happens around him. He's the eye of the storm.

790
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,560
He will create the carnage, but he will come out at the end unscathed.

791
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:23,680
Yeah. Oh, it's not on the mic. Sorry, everyone. Now, loads of rocks fall on it.

792
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,000
Yes.

793
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,080
Now, this is where it comes, what I'm talking about. As the rocks are about to crush him,

794
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,920
he goes, it's a big X.

795
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,840
Yes, I know what you mean now. Brilliant. But yeah, that's all cause, because

796
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,760
Rock wants to work.

797
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,400
He doesn't want to work.

798
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:44,640
He doesn't. He yanks the rope, doesn't he? Which means he fires his laser mining tool

799
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,840
and causes the rock side.

800
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,320
Yeah. Yeah. He says something like, I'm going to be an X, or it's a big X. He makes a very quick,

801
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:56,480
loud joke about the X, which is really funny. But no, Rock Monster defends him.

802
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,040
Yeah. He saves him. And even then, he's still a bit of a dick to the Rock Monster after,

803
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,240
I thought. He's just saved it. And then you're still being a bit dickish towards him.

804
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,480
Did they fall down somewhere?

805
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:16,560
Yes. So I think the floor gives way and they fall down into a cavern below. And the first thing he

806
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,600
notices is, oh my God, look at all of this special ore that we've been looking for. We've got enough

807
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:27,600
here to pay our way off the planet. Actually, hell no. We've got enough here to buy a ship

808
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,320
from that. Oh God, brain's really stopped working.

809
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,080
From those gemstone things.

810
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:39,680
Yeah. No, from the race that we were, I've already kind of said, I already can't remember.

811
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,240
For God's sake, Kazon. Yeah. We've got enough to buy the ship, let alone pay our way off the planet.

812
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:51,760
Yeah. So that's brilliant. And then Rock keeps walking towards the prod, well, we don't know

813
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,960
what it is, but what looks vaguely familiar to the USS Voyager.

814
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,400
Yeah. It looked like a really cool ship.

815
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:00,960
It does.

816
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:07,280
And I did think that's Voyager. And I'm thinking, what years is meant to be? Why is Voyager there?

817
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,240
It wasn't until he got on the ship and the bridge looked nothing like Voyager. When I was like,

818
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:16,080
okay, we mustn't be Voyager. It must just be a, they just have obviously modelled it on that.

819
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,120
Yeah. A hundred percent. And I'm just looking at the Proto Star now.

820
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:24,880
And because I've seen pictures of season two, of characters that are in it, I kind of thought

821
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,160
there must be a link between Voyager and this.

822
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:34,400
Okay. So the Proto Star is a form of class called the Proto Star Class.

823
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,120
Right.

824
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,720
And yes, it's the USS Proto Star is its name.

825
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,440
They named a ship after its class.

826
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,640
Interesting. Yeah.

827
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:48,800
Because the Enterprise isn't an Enterprise class ship, is it? The Enterprise is the Enterprise.

828
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,720
So yeah, it depends on what you're looking. You've had the Constitution class.

829
00:46:52,720 --> 00:47:00,480
You had the Galaxy class. You've, oh, God, I can't remember what the Enterprise E is.

830
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:07,600
And that's terrible. Enterprise E. It's going to really bug me. So I'm going to have to look it up

831
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:08,880
now. Well, anyway.

832
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,080
Sovereign class. There you go.

833
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,320
Sovereign class. There you go. Yeah. So, and the ship looks great on the outside. They go inside.

834
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:20,560
It looks great on the inside. Really cool. High tech, but not, you know, horrible high techy like

835
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,080
in Discovery. It looked like a normal.

836
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,120
It looked like something from the Federation that we know.

837
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:34,560
It wasn't radically changed to give us a Star Wars-esque for ship, seeing that we were saying

838
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:42,640
Star Wars so much, but it's a Federation ship that we could recognise. You could say, like we have

839
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:49,600
been, well, that front section of the ship is very Voyager-esque. So for us, immediately our brains

840
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:55,760
click and go, is that Voyager? It's a Federation ship because you just, you know that design.

841
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:01,840
That design is in our brains as it's Federation at Star Trek. So Prodigy have kept that, which

842
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,800
is a good thing. It was necessary. Interesting. I didn't realise this. Do you know? I'm sure this

843
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,040
will come up and I mean, come on, if you're listening to this, you probably watched Prodigy

844
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,600
already. I know who the captain of the Prodigy was, of the Proto Star Wars.

845
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,760
I'm going to say who I thought it was Captain Janeway.

846
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,240
No. Oh, don't you, Kim?

847
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,640
Chakotay. Oh really? Chakotay is.

848
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,400
Chakotay. I can never get his name right the first time. Yeah, Chakotay after, so apparently

849
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,120
here under the command of Chakotay for a return mission to the Delta Quadrant undertaken in the

850
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:42,080
years after the return to US. That's a hundred percent explains why the Kazon are in it because

851
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:47,760
this means they're in the Delta Quadrant. That anyways, that's probably ruining it for ourselves.

852
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,560
So I'm not going to look at that anymore because that's going to.

853
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,680
Yeah, I plan to watch this.

854
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:57,920
That's got to come up in extra in later episodes. So no, I'm not looking at that anymore. Ignore me.

855
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:06,080
But anyway, yeah, we get the smoke and the light and we get the Proto Star. There it is.

856
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,560
And that's the end of the episode, isn't it?

857
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:14,080
Turns on. The translator starts working.

858
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,560
Yes. Okay. So yeah, we get Rock walking around the bridge with Dau and Dau's kind of,

859
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,960
Oh, wow, look at all of this. And Rock just walks over and goes, Oh, shiny at the.

860
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,280
Basically the, you know, I can't think of what they call it. My brain's just gone to mush. I'm

861
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:33,440
so sorry everyone, but basically the combat shape. And I know it's got a name.

862
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,360
Well, the thing about is the big gray rock man has a little girl's voice.

863
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Well, yeah. So he presses the combat shape and the ship turns on and then Dau basically,

864
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:50,880
what have you done? And yeah, we get little child voice as I can understand you.

865
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,480
Yeah. As I can understand you. I can understand you.

866
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,280
Yeah. And then.

867
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,080
Delta. There you go. They're called the Delta or Arrowhead.

868
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:07,760
And then fugitive zero appears, makes some kind of cool action movie star cliffhanger reference.

869
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,400
Yes. Yeah. And that's where it stops.

870
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,680
And it's quite dangerous because Netflix basically runs the two together without even telling you

871
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,160
it started episode two. It's five seconds and it starts the next one. It doesn't give you,

872
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,160
we've been watching a lot of Disney and you get a bit of credits, then you get 20 seconds.

873
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,560
Yeah. Then bottom left corner, you get a little rectangle down here on the iPad you do. And it

874
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:37,280
says next episode starting in next episode starts. It didn't in Netflix. Normally Netflix does that.

875
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,840
It normally says, yeah, next episode about to play. This, it just went straight into it.

876
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,640
I thought that as well. Confused the hell out of me.

877
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,680
Yeah. Cause it kind of like started doing an end credit and it's like, okay, well stop now.

878
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,520
Cause it didn't say we're doing another episode. 100%. I'm going to say

879
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,240
pretty little now because I know you're going to press the stop button.

880
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,400
Transfer complete. What did you think?

881
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:13,520
I really, pardon me. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was for once something that was

882
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:24,240
not just new, but well thought out and good. It wasn't just a, we've got the Star Trek name.

883
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:29,280
Let's make it super kid friendly. For me, anyone could have watched that and enjoyed it. There was

884
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:36,880
no, it's more towards the adult. It's more towards the children. Like actually your words of it's

885
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:42,320
like a Pixar film is actually more true than you think. Because you look at things like toy story

886
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,880
and there's always the adult jokes in there that the kids will never get, but it's something for

887
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:53,840
the adults. And they've done that in this, like the little video with the crosses and the ticks

888
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:59,360
about the safety. The kids might find it funny, but the adults will find that funnier because

889
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:04,080
you've gone through it at some point in your life where you've done the health and safety

890
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:11,920
bloody training. So it's more like Pixar than I think actually I gave it credit for. There's

891
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,880
a lot for adults, a lot for kids. They blew it out of the park. Brilliant. Really good.

892
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,960
I reckon Kay could watch that and be quite happy watching it. I don't know if she's into that kind

893
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,040
of stuff, but she's the age that I think could watch it. I'd quite like her to watch it. Whether

894
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,960
or not I can persuade her to is another matter because she's watched a couple of DS9 episodes

895
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:34,320
with me in the background and she's then asked, are you going to watch one of those again? And

896
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,760
I've said no. And then I've seen she's going to, oh, but doesn't really want to say, can you put

897
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,800
one on? Well, ask her to watch it. She's obviously, she's Star Trek curious. Why don't you ask her to

898
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,640
watch that one and then record her thoughts and we can play it in the next one? That's a good idea.

899
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:53,760
Yeah, I will do because it's only 20 odd minutes. And she's got the attention span for that.

900
00:52:54,320 --> 00:53:01,200
Just. She's 10. Come on, give me a break, you fuckers. What did I think of it? I really liked

901
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:06,720
it. So pleasantly surprised again. I would never have watched it in a million years. It would never

902
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:12,160
really have, even though you spoke about it, it didn't never kind of cross my mind to watch it

903
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:18,720
until a lot of people were making waves about the second series and how much everyone seemed to like

904
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:25,120
it. Well, yeah, the whole save lower decks team saying we've managed to save prodigy. Yeah.

905
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:31,040
Basically stirred both of us to go, well, if people are fighting that hard to get a show saved,

906
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,200
there's got to be something about. They like that as much as we like lower decks. There must

907
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:40,080
be something good about. And they were right. Yeah. They're a hundred percent right. Yeah.

908
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,960
It was that good. I'm going to watch the rest. I'm really looking forward to actually seeing

909
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:50,880
if it holds, holds that quality all the way from particularly season two, how season two pans out.

910
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,040
Well, that's going to be the interesting point, isn't it? So season one, I'm just looking here.

911
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:02,240
Season one has 20 episodes. 20 episodes. Okay. Wow. Yeah. 20 episodes. It's a proper Star Trek

912
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:05,760
series then it is. And then you've got into season two. Now my issue is going to be,

913
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:11,920
will the writing of season two be as good as the first? Have they changed writers because

914
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,160
they had to change who was producing it and everything like that was the storyline already

915
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,600
thought out before they canceled it and they're just going to carry it on or did they have to say,

916
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,640
no, you're right. We'll bring it back. And they've just gone, right.

917
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,080
Shit. We've got to think of a story now. I guess it depends how series one ends.

918
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:33,440
Yeah. Well, that's also very true. If there's a cliffhanger or not. Yeah. But you know what,

919
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,760
you know what shows like this can be like, they can end on a cliffhanger and then the next season,

920
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:43,520
a year has passed, you get a five minute, oh, this is how we got out of that sticky situation.

921
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:49,520
And then it's a completely different storyline. Yeah. And that, that would be disappointing,

922
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:55,840
but I'll hold out kind of any thoughts on that until I've seen it. Yeah. But no,

923
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,600
I think well worth watching. Absolutely. Well, happy with it.

924
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:08,160
Command functions are offline. So it's the end. Probably the shortest

925
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,400
Trek episode that we've watched. Well, absolutely. Because the lower decks ones aren't 22 minutes.

926
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,680
They're longer than that, aren't they? No, they're about 22 or 25 minutes because

927
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,200
you've got to consider about advertising that you've got to fit in between it. And it's,

928
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,920
oh yeah. So I think they're probably about the same length.

929
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,880
Yeah. The American is one on these. So they did. I remember the first time we went on holiday there

930
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:34,400
and we watched some TV and it was like, does the intro of the show, then adverts, then the first

931
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:42,640
part of the show, then the second part of the show, then adverts, then the credits. Imagine watching,

932
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:48,720
knowing when the show's over, you've got three more runs of credits before you see the start of

933
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:54,880
the next show. Cause you've got credits and you can say you got adverts, end credits, adverts, intro,

934
00:55:54,880 --> 00:56:04,160
adverts. And I hate adverts. I absolutely hate them. Okay. So lower decks runtime 25 minutes,

935
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,760
prodigy 23 minutes. Okay. It just felt a lot shorter. But that could be to do with,

936
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,080
don't forget 23 minutes is a kid's show. They've got to fit more adverts in for toys.

937
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:19,600
Yeah. It just felt way shorter than just being two minutes shorter.

938
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,160
And maybe I just super enjoyed it and just felt really quick.

939
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,800
Well, I think that might be more likely. I think actually the enjoyment I got from that was

940
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,680
really high. So actually that's why I was surprised. I got halfway through the second

941
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,400
episode before I realised, oh shit, it started the second episode. I was enjoying it that much.

942
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,080
I hadn't even kind of noticed that it'd been going on for longer than I thought. It just,

943
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:46,880
time had gone like that. It's the sort of thing is when you go to a good film and you realise,

944
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,440
oh, it's the end of the film and I haven't got a num bum. Brilliant.

945
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:56,800
Next episode. I think I'd like to do some more questions. I love the question ones when we get

946
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,200
questions. I really enjoy the questions. I think we should do a few episodes, then questions,

947
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,480
few episodes questions. And then after that, I think I'm going to pick up a card unless you

948
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:09,360
can think of a different thing that you want to watch. No, I think a Picard is a good idea.

949
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:15,040
I think maybe the first episode of Picard season one, get one of every single season in and of

950
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,640
every single type of star trek there's been, because I think we'll do a Picard and then I

951
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,800
will pick a discovery that I want you to watch. Yeah, fair enough. So there's kind of the next

952
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:28,400
three sorted. Yeah. Well, next four, because then I want to show you a specific Deep Space Nine one,

953
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:35,200
which is, it's not a happy one, but I think it's a very powerful episode and it really demonstrates

954
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:41,120
the difference in quality of writing that Deep Space Nine got compared to all of the seasons.

955
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,960
Well, we managed to get a few loves out of war trying to commit suicide for an hour.

956
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:50,000
So I think we might be okay. And I was really worried about that episode.

957
00:57:54,800 --> 00:58:00,160
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00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,560
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959
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:10,320
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961
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:27,760
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00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,840
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00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,960
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964
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,520
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965
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:46,480
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966
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,160
There you go. Thanks, mate. You're welcome.

967
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:52,800
Love you. Love you.

968
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,600
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970
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972
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973
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974
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975
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976
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977
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,960
Maybe we should just like not smoke before we start doing new stuff.

978
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:22,400
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979
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:28,080
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